The Toast - Hallelujah: Tuesday, December 13th, 2022

Episode Date: December 13, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to the Toast. Happy Tuesday. Hope everyone's having a absolutely stunning, stunning day. And speaking of stunning, it's my girl! It's like four different accents in one. Jackie O, hey Jackie O, how you doing? I'm doing good. I just became immensely depressed when I realized it's only Tuesday. Like, that's not okay.
Starting point is 00:00:25 No, because that's the thing about the toast. And we say this all the time. We are going to let you know what day it is. And sometimes that's a negative. Sometimes it's like, oh my God, it's already Wednesday. But then sometimes you're like, oh my God, it's only Tuesday. I feel like nobody breaks down the days of the week quite like us. No, and that's why we are the top tier of what we do.
Starting point is 00:00:44 Everyone else tries tries but nobody will ever like break down a week harder than Jackson Claude. No we live for it. I'm surprised we don't wear undies that have the day of the week on them. That's how much like the day of the week is part of our personalities. Oh my god. Gift idea. I know what I'm getting you for Hanukkah. Are you excited for Hanukkah? I am. I did Taylor Strecker's podcast yesterday and we were just talking about like, you know, what it's like to be a Jew during Christmas time. And it was really funny. And we were also talking about how, you know, there, we as outsiders look at Christmas as like, oh my God, you know, holiday cheer, joy. But I think when you're actually like celebrating Christmas, there's
Starting point is 00:01:24 like, you know, torturous holiday things. Like you've just spent so much money for all the gifts for all the people in your life some people like hate spending time with their family like it is you know I think Christmas is better as an outsider I've come to that conclusion so true and like if you do get someone a gift it's because you just really wanted to and you saw something instead of having like a list of people that you have to buy gifts for but conversely it does mean that all those people have to buy gifts for you right so that's what I was saying I'm like people think like Hanukkah presents you really age out of Hanukkah presents when you're 12 like you would open up you know maybe a toy each night you don't get like you know a Chanel scarf every night when you're an adult there's no real Hanukkah present you don't
Starting point is 00:02:02 but once you become a parent Hanukkah sort of picks back up. I'm not doing eight days of presents, but I definitely am using it as an excuse to get some gifts for the kids. 100 percent. Speaking of, I sent you home from New York with a bunch of gifts for all the kids in Florida, and I haven't heard from Levi and Michaela's parents, thus having me believe you haven't given them my gift yet. I have not given them your gift yet because there hasn't been a gift exchange yet.
Starting point is 00:02:29 And now since you're coming so soon and you will be here for Hanukkah, like maybe you just two birds, one stone it, wrap them up and give them like a gift. Wrap it up. Maybe. Maybe. Wrap it up. I watched so much Yellowstone last night where are you at and okay so um they are still trying to figure out who like ordered the attack on all the duttons
Starting point is 00:02:53 and they figured out it's this random guy in prison and then this guy's former prison cell was the guy jamie is technically related to you know it's his biological father and like the way jamie is like so desperate for like any sort of companionship. He like moved in with this guy, even though he knows that this guy killed his biological mom, spent like tons of years in prison, is like not a good guy. John Dutton told him he was like rotten to his core. But he like bought a house with him. He's such a loser.
Starting point is 00:03:19 But for now, it seems his loyalties are still with the Duttons. Oh, and that political girl,ie just came back with their son. So I'm so glad we got to tie that up. The baby was born. Yeah. I shall say nothing. And I figured out last night, I don't know if you know this, you know that Beth Dutton is British?
Starting point is 00:03:41 The actress? Mm-hmm. No, I didn't know that. Yeah, it was shocking. I also, because I found out last night that Cameron from White Lotus, Aubrey Plaza's husband, is British. And I was like, shook, because he did a really good accent. And then someone else was like, did you know Beth Dutton is? And I'm like, what? It's weirder to have a British person on Yellowstone than it is to have them on White Lotus. A hundred percent. They were traveling to Sicily. Like there's British people everywhere.
Starting point is 00:04:07 Yeah. I was shocked when I learned about Beth. And then I, I, um, I just Googled, uh, Beth Dutton, Yellowstone British. And I just stumbled upon this interview that her and Rip did. And Rip is so handsome in real life. That's so crazy that they do interviews together and then one of them is British. real life that's so crazy that they do interviews together and then one of them is British it's it's like seeing a teacher out of school seeing a dog walk on its hind legs it's just unnatural yeah it's just unnatural so I'm glad you're enjoying you'll probably be caught up by the
Starting point is 00:04:36 end of the week back where we all are and then we can have an honest conversation an honest conversation other things on my content plate that I really want to watch. Real Housewives of Miami. I've been hearing the craziest shit is going down between Lenny and Lisa. There's like a hot mic moment. It's on my list of things to do. I promise. And the Fleischman show as well.
Starting point is 00:04:58 So that's I'm like gearing up my content list for the holiday break. You know, I think everyone should do that. Yeah, I have a huge content list for the holiday break. You know, I think everyone should do that. Yeah. I have a huge content list for break and hopefully over the two weeks that we're not doing the toast, by the time we come back, we have like so many TV recaps to do for you guys. I went to start one of the many shows on my content list last night. I was like, shall it be Wednesday? Shall it be the Fleischman's White Lotus? And instead I started a new book. I just, I can't explain. I was not in the mood to like fall into a TV rabbit hole where I'd be like up till 3am caring about a show.
Starting point is 00:05:30 No, let's talk about this because I saw your Instagram story and you're reading a book that's 28 hours long. Now for context, if you don't read an average book, like Kindle will, will tell you how long it'll probably take you to read like a 300 400 page book it's usually like six maybe five hours 27 hours first of all what fucking book how many pages is that uh i think it's 700 something pages or it's more no or it's more because it's more i'm having a hard time finding the book on goodreads because it came out in the 60s and when it came out it was volume one and volume two and i can't tell if volume one has 700 pages but the book I'm reading now the kindle version they put it together into one book so yes yes yes volume one had 700 pages volume two had like 400 something so maybe it is like 1100 1200 pages well also speaking of
Starting point is 00:06:21 books we have a brand new episode up on our Patreon that Jackie and I recorded. It's our annual episode. Every year we get together and just take a look at the year at a glance. Talk about our favorite books that came out, movies, TV shows, songs, albums, just like, you know, the toast wrapped, if you will. And it was a gorgeous episode. It's available on the Patreon. And I think you should go check it out.
Starting point is 00:06:42 I really do. Yeah, it was so much fun. It was so nice to like hear what you've been up to, what you were liking and take recommendations from like your best of the best. And our interests were so varied, which is so surprising. That's what I was going to say. In past years, the episodes have been much shorter because Jackie and I have like the same top five for everything. Maybe we rank them differently, but for the most part, we have the same top five. And I feel like, yeah, this year, I feel like you really matured. Obviously, like you had a child and you had all this free time on maternity leave and free time. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:07:14 On your, when you were pregnant, free time. No, before, like while you were pregnant, you had like so much like TV you were watching. And so you were like doing different things, you know, you were becoming a mother, you were nesting and it was, you know, I've never felt further away from you. Oh, McClurdy-al. We're so distant. Near, far, wherever you are. I'm kind of having like a sticky shoes moment. You're having a Phoebe Buffay flu season moment because it is fact that when you're sick, your voice is better. It has this very erotic, very sensual, my sticky, sticky shows.
Starting point is 00:07:58 I believe that the heart will go on. Except I'm not having a raspy voice. I'm having a nasally voice, which is actually worse than my normal voice. It's giving Janice from Friends. I don't know her. It's giving annoying, sick bitch. Yeah, no. When I like listen to really old podcast episodes of ours, I really notice what we sounded like all the time. Yes. I noticed how much our voices have changed over the years. and you would think I would have thought that like my voice a couple of years ago was like a little bit more New York and a little more obnoxious valley girl no we were like nasally as fuck yeah I wonder if that's youth what is that I don't know and how can
Starting point is 00:08:41 one change it like can you change your voice no you can change the way that you talk maybe if I talked in a lower register sexy if I spoke in a lower register perhaps I would get more respect perhaps yeah you know I um there is like a lot of not a lot there's like a few women out there who have like really really deep voices and then you hear them talk like a lot of people are always surprised by how gg hadid's voice is because she has like a man voice yeah this girl i went to camp with um gabby dexter she had a man voice and she like made it her whole personality she like loved it she really she literally spoke like this it's so crazy it's so crazy what is that i wonder if you could get like a voice transplant you can't get a voice transplant but I know if you take hormones like if you're transitioning
Starting point is 00:09:29 your voice changes maybe I should take hormones maybe but you but you don't like your voice now no I actually my voice now is fine doesn't bother me except when I'm sick no sometimes like if like you'll hear like a recording of yourself or like there's a video and you're in the background. And then you actually, when you hear that, what you have to do is find the nearest cliff and jump off.
Starting point is 00:09:51 Jump. Like there are certain, like when you're just like living your life, like not caring about anything, you'll stumble upon a recording of yourself that you hear your voice and it's so shrill and it's so like goes to the center of your brain
Starting point is 00:10:04 and you're like jesus fucking christ that's what i sound like i actually can't listen like i can't physically can't well i actually watched our episode from yesterday uh last night because i just wanted to relive the the beautiful moment and our voices sounded gorgeous but i was like on one yesterday with the cutting off it was really fucking annoying I had to assume maybe it was like the way I edited it like maybe I didn't line up art because I was being really fucking annoying oh interesting I could barely watch the clips from yesterday because I look so I look and sound so sick it made me want to sneeze totally I'm like constantly on the verge of a sneeze. That's also the worst part of being sick is like the teasing of the sneeze.
Starting point is 00:10:47 Yeah. No, but just even like looking at my face, especially in those reels, because you crop and we get kind of close up. And I was weirdly zoomed in yesterday. Like, oh, I meant to remind you. Did you? Of course I did. I moved my camera back to like, get away.
Starting point is 00:10:58 You were so when I got your video yesterday, I'm like, Jesus Christ. Like literally, you're so fucking close to the camera. So not necessary. Did you like readjust or something? No, I don't. I must have just like accidentally zoomed in at some point. Yeah. Anyways, I moved her back, but like under my nose is red and I just it was making me
Starting point is 00:11:16 like feel sicker. So I couldn't really relive the highlights. But that's what you get when you don't have sick days. I wanted to relive the highlights. I also just wanted to, there were such heated debates in our comment section about Meghan and Harry. Oh, I saw some of them.
Starting point is 00:11:31 What's so funny is like the people who are mad at us for not going hard enough against them. And then there's people who are mad for not being nice enough to them. Like with these two, you actually cannot win. There's no like thing that you could say that would be one interesting and to please everyone. Yeah. So just say what you think.
Starting point is 00:11:57 No. So I actually thought like our our comment section yesterday was really reflective of of us doing a good job because you're right. People were mad. We didn't go hard enough. And then people were mad we didn't go hard enough and then people were mad we went too hard so it's like which is it girly um so I felt like that means we gave like a fair and balanced conversation about it yeah and you're right you are like so polarizing I fully expect for my thoughts and feelings to change in a 180 degree direction when I watch the second half but I mean I'm not going unbiased I just think that you know up until the wedding like I have no issue with them why would I have an issue
Starting point is 00:12:31 with what they're showing it's everything that happens after so I yeah we shall see also I'm pretty sure I I know I said this when we were talking about them visiting the army base like I know Harry was in the army in the uk like of course like but i still don't see why like people in the u.s it just still feels random military members of the u.s like care to meet and greet the two of them yeah um so i re-watched episode we you looked stunning don't worry about it and today you look even more gorgeous gorgeous it's 24 degrees in New York wow it's it is also a little chilly here oh please no it's like I used to my I keep my house cold so I used to go outside to warm up and now not not happening not happening I cooked we have like by the way I cooked the most delicious meal last night like
Starting point is 00:13:22 it was so good I made like one of the Ina chicken, just, you know, chicken in the pot sort of things. It was so fantastic. I had such a hearty dinner. I was just feeling so hashtag proud. Speaking of that, I will be, you know, in your home for a variety of days. I just want to make sure you're like stocked up on things because I fully expect a home cooked meal every night.
Starting point is 00:13:43 I would like Ina's chicken. Which one? Engagement. you want an engagement chicken yeah I don't by the way I don't love that lemon chicken that you make at first because I don't like lemon chicken okay great that's fine no like I want like a roast chicken with mashed potatoes for one meal okay and if to book your flight so I know if you'll be here if I should have dinner ready for you on Thursday yeah yeah yeah I'm like I'm Ben's offers really rubbing off on me like not booking a flight for Thursday and it's Tuesday I actually really need to do that I just and let me ask you so I loved the mashed potatoes that I made for Thanksgiving I would make them again for you
Starting point is 00:14:19 do you like a chunky mash skin no you don't You don't like chunky mash? No. I like creamy. I like whipped. I like buttery garlic deliciousness. Whipped, buttery. And I'm guessing no skin. Get the fucking skin out of here. Okay. Okay? Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:38 No skin. No skin. Not happening. I feel like maybe, you know, a chili would be good for the weekend I don't know what have you made recently that I thought was like really delicious looking oh you had my meatballs were you here for chicken parm no I wasn't here for chicken parm you want chicken parm I would love chicken parm okay and you know like I'm leaving in the middle of your stay so I'll leave some stuff in the freezer like chili is perfect in the freezer if you just put it on the pot.
Starting point is 00:15:08 Yeah, no. And then like, I don't want to make Olivia cook for me. You know, she is like a newborn. Right. Okay. I'm so, I'm so excited. You know, it'll be a fabulous weekend and then we'll finally be together to record, well not finally, we were just together. We will be together to record the final episode of the year. I'm going to try not to get emotional, but I don't know if you maybe missed yesterday's episode. Friday's our last episode of the year. We're back in the new year, two weeks off of the toast. So you better enjoy your girlies while you still can.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Yeah. I feel like starting with yesterday's episode, I'm beginning to wrap my head around the fact that a year is coming to an end. Yeah. Which is important to take stock of your year. You know what? I think we average about 200 episodes a year, a little more.
Starting point is 00:15:51 This is actually our year with the least amount of episodes because we took a month off for my two-year maternity leave. So I think we'll probably round out about like 180, which is still so many. Still so many. It's crazy. Plus Patreon. Plus a baby plus the most important thing
Starting point is 00:16:09 in the entire world rodini rodine rodini rodine and you know what let's talk about that because i don't even know if i've properly told you and like really thanked you for bringing Roldan into my life. Like I know you did it for you and like I probably wasn't even a thought. You know like I'm not gonna have this baby for my bitch sister. Like I know like it probably wasn't even a thought. But the way, I've never been the same. The way me and this child are so connected, so inextricably linked, I can't put into words the gratitude I feel. I know it wasn't easy. The nine months, the labor and the weaning, the breasts, the back, the sleepless nights. I know. And I know you didn't do it for me. Nonetheless, I'm grateful. Thank you so much. And I really do
Starting point is 00:16:58 think that your guys' connection is due in part to LC hosting the toast with you side by side for nine months. Cause am I crazier? Like whenever Harry hears my voice on FaceTime or obviously then in person, he like, he knows me. Like he always, he's like very, and I don't see him have that connection with counts. No, not necessarily with the counts on a voice level. No, I wouldn't say so. On a voice level. I wouldn't say so. On a voice level. I wouldn't say so. The second my face comes on FaceTime, he like looks to the phone. He's like, oh, that's my bitch.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Well, yeah, he also just likes the excitement. But I do think it's your voice. I definitely think. He heard you. You know, every morning getting together, talking for an hour. You know, I talk all over you. I yell, I scream. There's no way he didn't hear me.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Yeah, no, that's what they say. They they can that makes sense it does make sense and I I also think that's why when toasters bring their like children to meet and greets and stuff they have like newborns the child is connected to me too like they feel my energy because a lot of women listen while pregnant listen in labor like there's a lot of toasty reverberations going to the uterine wall. Because the toast respects new and expecting mamas. And that's why you should get your Thank You Mamas merch at ToastMerch.com. You should.
Starting point is 00:18:13 What a great gift. Stocking stuffer. Stuff it in that stocking. Let me ask you a question as a mother. Bitch, I'm a mother. No drama. When somebody gets you a gift, but like it's for Harry does it count like yeah I brought you a gift it's just like any other gift like is it a good one like if someone gets me like a cute onesie for him like yeah that that is for me too so you feel
Starting point is 00:18:39 like you got a present yeah like if you got me a bunch of stuff for Harry I'd be like oh Claudia just got me a gift like and let's say we'd be like, oh, Claudia just got me a gift. Like let's say we weren't sisters. I was coming to your house for a dinner party. And like, you know, instead of getting you like a gorgeous vase, I was I got you like this cute basket full of baby tings. Like, do you feel like you got a present? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:55 I think so. And I also feel that way as a gift giver. Like if I'm shopping for Olivia or something like maybe it's for Kayla. Yeah. Because like when I go to like stay at Brian's house I used to bring like a gift for him but now I just bring a gift for Dean and it's like is that the same I think also there are gifts that are for parent and baby like you could get a really nice blanket and it's like okay I have to be seen with this blanket and that and it's like a nice
Starting point is 00:19:21 you know blanket that fits my vibe then it's like part of my outfit and I think it's then for both of us yeah yeah yeah I feel that yeah but you know if it's a diaper it that is what it is no no it's not like a functional gift it's like something like decorative or like fabulous a diaper bag that's a reflection on me as well um so I did want to tell everyone you told me before we have the weirdest stories yeah but I feel like those make for the best episodes there's not like any breaking celeb news it's holiday season celebs are starting to go on vacation we're not going to be getting like that's why there's no toast like eventually like the celebrities turn off their publicist for two weeks so everyone can go home and enjoy yeah like we have done maybe like almost 900 episodes of The Toast in total, right?
Starting point is 00:20:07 Yeah, we're almost at a thousand. And I can say with certainty that the characters in these five stories have never been discussed in an episode together. I'm excited, one, because I don't know them, but two, because the one that I do know is about the sister wives, and that's a subject I'm extremely passionate about. You are. a Claudia explains it all moment and I will and you know what I was reading the article because I wanted to be you know brushed up you will die if you know what I didn't I haven't I don't watch the new season I just like watch them in high school and I feel
Starting point is 00:20:36 like a weird connection to them um one of the sister wives is leaving and the base of their divorce is over COVID protocols you're gonna die oh i love that like someone's being a karen oh my god but like three years later no no you'll say you'll say i'll explain it can't wait yeah so now without further uh do the strice brothers will be reunited and in studio i don't care what we have to do to bribe them in here. We will have a stride-a-fride-a all hands on deck for the last episode of the year. We will keep them there all night.
Starting point is 00:21:10 We will keep them there till four. Literally. Without further ado about the do's, here are the past five stories that you do need to know. And today's episode is brought to you by Away. Away is a travel company that believes that the more we travel, the better we become.
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Starting point is 00:24:59 So Kendall and Kylie are going viral in the Real Housewives community because they jokingly joined in on the tequila gate drama between their family friends Kathy Hilton and Lisa Rinna that infamously led to a falling out on the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. They filmed a TikTok video at Kimo Sabe in Aspen, Colorado, the same cowboy hat store where Rinna upset Kathy Hilton by ordering Kendall's 818 tequila rather than Kathy Hilton's Casa del Sol, which Hilton had attempted to promote throughout a cash trip. The audio says, I just want to try it
Starting point is 00:25:29 because it's my friend Kendall Jenner's tequila, so I haven't tried it. They recreated the scene in their video as a bartender poured each of them a glass of 818. And then the bottles on the shelf now have like tags that say Kendall's tequila and Kathy's tequila. Yeah, it was really funny,
Starting point is 00:25:45 albeit, you know, a little delayed. But well, I mean, they're not going to go to Aspen to film it. But the fact that they're in that same hat store, like they could have used the sound like before, like Kendall could have like made a cocktail with it. But I do appreciate the authenticity of them actually being in Aspen at Kimo Sabe. I recognized it immediately. And when I saw that it was from Kendall Jenner's account, I'm like, what is going on? It was like dystopic. I loved it, but I also kind of hated
Starting point is 00:26:09 that like they're acknowledging Lisa Rinna because that's like exactly what she wanted. And like, sorry, Lisa, that article said Lisa and Kathy are both family friends. I did say that. No, they're not. Kathy is the family friend. Yeah, Lisa's just like a thirst monster in Hollywood
Starting point is 00:26:22 who maybe they run into sometimes. Yeah, but it's crazy that Kendall's tequila was such a big storyline in Real Housewives. She had yet to address it. And now I'm just glad that she knows about it. And maybe they watch the show. But for Kendall Jenner. Maybe they watch the show.
Starting point is 00:26:35 Maybe they don't. But this was like, you know, the Suite Life of Hannah Montana on deck. Like it was the crossover we all needed. That is literally the perfect comparison. It was cute. Kylie seems to be having a really fun time in Aspen. This is like the time of year
Starting point is 00:26:57 when like all the celebs go to Aspen and it's like hotspot. And I feel like we'll be getting some good content. Yeah, I feel like Kylie is never where everyone else is. And I actually feel like her being in Aspen right now is still like not, it's not Christmas and New Year's, like it's before. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:12 And I love that for her. All the girls have been quiet. I feel like they're going through a rough patch because of Balenciaga gate and it's like affecting everything. It's just, it's been like a series of unfortunate events for them what else after no it's just been like you know Kanye doesn't reflect great on them okay but I don't and I don't believe in blaming I do not believe in blaming other people for other
Starting point is 00:27:36 people's actions but it's like his it's his family and they really never have said anything about it and like it's a little you know um then the Balenciaga thing and then I just feel like it's like this general at least for me like it's this general fatigue I feel like they're sensing that and they're just like being quiet for a while because you know up until like maybe a month or two ago it was a stellar year for the girlies yeah I think they're laying low for me it's only the Balenciaga thing and that doesn't affect the way that I see uh what's her name Kylie um Kylie Kendall Chloe like it's really just Kim for me and I just feel like Kim keeps posting like all this mindless shit thinking that like that's usually a good PR strategy like it's what Ariel Charnas did like it is good like just
Starting point is 00:28:24 keep the conversation going but like everything she posts I'm just like what about Balenciaga yeah no totally um I think a lot of people also like for us like we're like staunch defenders so I feel like I wasn't getting bothered by shit that they were doing but I know a lot of people were very put off by the astral world oh yeah and rightfully so I mean like I'm a Kylie defender but like even I was like you know yeah yeah no but so I'm saying if we're like if we're feeling this way right I imagine it's much worse I think I think they're taking note like I really do feel like they're much more pulled back I think it's also the holiday time like they're like note like I really do feel like they're much more pulled back I think it's also
Starting point is 00:29:05 the holiday time like they're like done working for the year they're on vacations Kim was just in posting somewhere in the ocean so they've been quiet and I do I think that's for the best sometimes you know you just need a break yeah but if you're gonna come out make it with a viral TikTok that we can't deny is fantastic we can't ignore yeah so that's what the girlies are up to my friend candle jenner are you ready for our next story captain lee has been forced to exit below deck he said this has been one of the most humbling experiences of his life captain lee rossback is disembarking from below deck the bravo personality announced his exit on Monday's episode informing his crew that persistent health issues meant he'd need to bow out of season 10 early
Starting point is 00:29:50 he was admittedly struggling with nerve issues when he boarded the motor yacht St. David at the start of the charter season but he hoped his symptoms would subside over time instead he shared in a confessional interview quote my injury it's getting worse the left side of my body I don't feel anything I expected a lot more progress than i'm experiencing and the most frustrating part about it is i can't do a goddamn thing about it and it's hard later he told the chef that this has probably been one of the most humbling experiences as of my life as the episode went on he realized he had to consider that his health concerns might have an impact on the whole boat quote the pain is getting worse not better i owe it to my crew to do right by bet by them they expect that out of me there comes a point if a
Starting point is 00:30:29 captain is really being objective he should be putting the best interests of his crew first because that's your primary responsibility as soon as you step on board check your fucking ego at the dock that's where you leave it then he called in all hands major and made the decision to leave the boat and obviously it's so much more than leaving the boat he's leaving the show right and he's really um the backbone of this show I think like so much of the success of Below Deck has to do with like people loving Captain Lee and like his no bullshit energy and I remember I watched Below Deck in the very beginning and they had another girlie come after Captain Lee and she never made it
Starting point is 00:31:07 and then they ended up with Captain Sandy who's great but like Captain Lee was really like the OG captain. This is very sad. I do think the show will suffer. Captain Sandy's great but she only does half of the shows you know. They have to bring in someone to replace Captain Lee for the other half of the shows.
Starting point is 00:31:23 I think they have very big shoes to fill. Hopefully Captain Lee can recommend a fellow captain who he respects and who he also thinks, you know, America would respect. But right, because Captain Lee is like also a really popular Bravo Liberty. Like they loved him at Bravo Con. And I'm sure he'll actually stay involved
Starting point is 00:31:40 in stuff like that. But, you know, the body is an important thing to have you know I don't like the way I started that sentence sorry you know you need to be healthy for a job as physical as being a boat captain you know you're outside all day roping and swinging and lassoing so what you're saying is you need to listen to your body and it appears as though Captain Lee is listening to the influencers and he's listening to his body and for that we have to respect him and just be happy yeah i i feel like captain lee 10 years ago if you had told him like you were going to be a bravo lebrity he would have like laughed in your
Starting point is 00:32:17 face it's so improbable how like this man he's so serious he takes his job so seriously which is why we love him but the course and he's like a yacht veteran no and he's not he's not like thirsty no course that his career took I'm sure was just as unexpected for him as it seems to us it's a fascinating transition it is but I'm ready I want like a captain lee they don't need to break the mold with the next guy like captain lee clone carbon copy like a really um serious someone who like you know with this with a soft heart yeah but someone who takes yachting very seriously i sometimes feel like captain sandy's a little too soft yeah she's always partying with the guests no she's not but like people are always getting in trouble.
Starting point is 00:33:05 I'm like, it's fine. You know, Captain Lee, it's like you get maybe one strike. He runs a tight fucking ship. And also it's like, OK, that's why people respect him. This is a reality show. It's all fun and games. But you are on this behemoth on the water and someone needs to keep you safe. So it has to be the reality show captain. Right.
Starting point is 00:33:23 And I do feel like Captain Lee makes sure that, of course, like the people are working and they're making content for the TV show. But like really the safety of the guests on board is his number one priority. Like I believe that. Yeah. So I think that it's going to be hard to find, you know, a non-thirsty captain at this point. But I think that they could do it.
Starting point is 00:33:42 There are so few. I would hope that there aren't you know yeah considering how many lives are at stake yeah so would you ever do below deck like as a guest we have been asked if I could take out the element of me being a bathing suit like just set that aside no no no it's a real element not unless I lose 100 pounds no no like for me one what I found really interesting is we had been asked once like I have an email about it somewhere you have to pay for the charter you apply yeah you have to you have to pay for the charter um and I think for like a four day five day charter it was like 60 grand which is still a shit ton of money but it's a
Starting point is 00:34:24 major discount for a boat like that in that ton of money but it's a major discount for a boat like that in that part of the world so you get a discount because you're going to be fucking tortured um so one i don't know if i would want to pay that amount of money to like not enjoy a vacation two i definitely don't want to be on tv in a bathing suit like kill me three sometimes not all the time the guests become a part of the storyline they become villainized um for being difficult and we are not difficult I actually think we would come off great like we would be fun and we also like we wouldn't make them like blow up the water like we just want to lay out and like drink yeah but then we make it like these guests are so
Starting point is 00:34:58 boring and they're lazy yeah yeah no I do think they would villainize us so that's another reason I wouldn't want to do it I actually if I could be comfortable like with how I looked you know if I just happened to be feeling myself and I could you know not be wearing else I'm not gonna be in a bathing suit like I'll be wearing a cover-up okay calm down cover-up of course and then you know maybe we have like a mysterious benefactor who's willing to come with us and like pay for a lot of it and we just have to like pay what a normal vacation would cost brian right right but he has been asked as well of course his episode would actually be great he's like a travel expert those two big things like i don't have to like worry about them in a major way i actually think it would be great one it would be great for the toast
Starting point is 00:35:41 of course like it would be so exciting for the toasters who love below deck and like we would podcast on the boat and make them like film us right like well not even for that but like for the like even if they never mentioned who we are and what we do like the toasters who watch the show religiously like would love to see us on it and I don't worry about coming off poorly like because I think we're pleasant like I will, the only specificity that I have is like meat, you know, and that's the only thing that we're particular about. I've thought about that too.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Cause like before every guest comes on, they sit with like a full sheet of paper on like their dietary restrictions. And we would probably have to like ship meat from America or from like the nearest kosher butcher. And they'd be like, what is this? Right, right. So they would probably make that a thing.
Starting point is 00:36:28 But like, okay, make yourself look anti-Semitic. Go ahead. Yeah, no, you do you, blowjack. You do you. But otherwise, like, and then if they were, if they did like drum up drama and make us look terrible, but like I had no personal issue with how I behaved and I like didn't act a fool, like that's fine.
Starting point is 00:36:44 Make your show. No, also a lot of the drama is like them complaining about food. And as previously discussed, like I would rather jump off the boat than ever send anything back or complain about my food. Like I'll just swallow it
Starting point is 00:36:53 or like feed it to Theo. So I think we're good. Yeah, no, I think we would have, one, it would be an amazing vacation. I think we would have a good time. I think it would be good for the business. Like wait, also Jackie, you're forgetting you get seasick.
Starting point is 00:37:04 You can't go on a boat no but I've been on boats before and I just I have a a system like I do the sea bands I do dramamine and then like if towards if it gets worse there are patches that you can like put on your neck that like are magic and zofran and zofran so So I could do it. And for the work. Okay. Workaholic. For the toes. I'm a workaholic. Totally.
Starting point is 00:37:30 So I'm open to it. But the first piece has to just be the. Somebody has to pay for it. And I have to get liposuction. Yeah. Right. So we'll see. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:40 But you never know. Never say. Like I don't think it's the worst idea. Is all I'm saying. No me neither. It actually. It actually makes sense. And it reminds me of say yes to the dress. Like, even though you have such negative things to say about it and you're, you hate so many things about it.
Starting point is 00:37:54 I think ultimately, like, it's amazing that you did it. It's like this funnest fact. Also, so many people just weirdly discovered you from say yes to the dress. Right. Like, if I could go back in time from say yes to the dress right like if i could go back in time i wouldn't take it back right but i would change a few things like uh getting my mole removed right would you change anything about the way that you acted like no they made a storyline yeah we acted cute we were fun we were not being difficult i just said like as any normal human being would like what kind of dress are you looking for? I'm looking for long sleeves.
Starting point is 00:38:27 Oh, she's looking for long sleeves. You have to do that. Let them do it. Right. You got to let them do their thing. Don't get me started on the girl from Louisiana. Like, please. Right, right, right. No, but, like, see, they manufacture stuff.
Starting point is 00:38:36 So as long as, like, you feel good that you were, like, you're a good person and that you treated everyone with respect, like, let them do their TV magic. Yeah. No, that's do their TV magic. Yeah. No, that's fair. Are you ready for our next story? A little posthumous drama.
Starting point is 00:38:52 Because Leonard Cohen's kids are in a battle over the singer's $48 million estate. Now, Claudia, for anyone who doesn't know who Leonard Cohen is, could you grace... And she tied you to your kitchen chair. She broke your throne. She cut your hair and from your lips she drew the hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. I really should go on The Masked Singer.
Starting point is 00:39:36 You really should. And you guys might know that song from Shrek. It's just a beautiful song. Dead. Dead. Also, by the way, there are actually a lot of songs like I exclusively know from Shrek. I need a hero.
Starting point is 00:39:50 I'm looking out for a hero till the end of the night. He's got to be strong and he's got to be smart and he's got to be the sun of night. Also, hey now, you're an all-star. Get your game on. Go play. So good. So good. So good.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Anyways, Leonard Cohen, there is a lot of drama surrounding his estate. So he passed away in 2016. And in the years before his passing, he worked to secure most of his multi-million dollar estate for the benefit of his heirs. He has two children named Lorca and Adam it's a battle that includes accusations of forgery secrets and allegations that the singer didn't trust his own offspring to run his estate because before he passed he did have a trustee um in charge of his estate the trustee is named Robert Corey the trust
Starting point is 00:40:44 controls tens of millions of dollars in royalties for his music as well as poetry novels photographs and 243 journal notebooks that he had when he died that he had started since he was a teenager and he passed away at 82 the so-called called lennon cohen leonard cohen archive is value okay it's a lot of words leonard cohen archive is valued at more than $48 million court filings say. Wow. Leonard Cohen passed away unexpectedly after a fall in his home in the middle of the night. So if he had any loose ends to tie up with his estate, he did not have a chance to do them.
Starting point is 00:41:18 The children say that their father came to appreciate in his waning days that he had made a grave error by allowing this guy to insinuate himself into Leonard's affairs and take control over virtually every aspect of Leonard's finances and legacy, court papers say. The kids claim that they have not been kept appraised by this trustee, Corey, of recent efforts to monetize his estate, including the posthumous publication of a Cohen novel called A Ballet of Lepers, published earlier this year,
Starting point is 00:41:44 and the opening of everybody knows which is an exhibit at toronto's art gallery of ontario which opens to the public on tuesday so they are oh my god so so who do we believe by the way like do we believe the kids i'm inclined to believe the kids plus there are allegations that um one of the documents is forged that would that put this guy on the trust instead of the charge. So that needs to be looked at. I would need to like go over Leonard's relationship with his kids over the years, you know, but I feel like this is something giving Colonel Tom. Parker Parker from Elvis, there are managers and just like biz people who take advantage of their clients especially elderly clients
Starting point is 00:42:29 so and exploit the estate but i do want to say this case of exploiting the estate is a book and an art exhibit like sounds okay right i don't know toronto film festival an exhibit called everybody knows everybody Sounds pretty respectful. Honestly, sounds very classy. Right, it's not like they're, you know, starting, he's not in Sing 3. Leonard Cohen takes the stage. Or like there's a hologram tour,
Starting point is 00:42:58 a holographic tour around the country. Of Leonard Cohen doing slam poetry. As a hologram. Cynthia, Jesus died for our Cynthia's. Around the country. Of Leonard Cohen doing slam poetry. As a hologram. Sin. Thea. Jesus died for our sin. Thea's. No, like there are so many more tacky ways this guy.
Starting point is 00:43:12 So at least he's in some small way respecting the legacy and not just totally destroying it. Yeah. Also, fun fact is that in the copious notes that are part of his archive, they have the original version of hallelujah which is 82 verses it's giving oh my god all too well 10 minute version i fucking love that song it's not a cry that you hear at night it's not someone who's seen the light it's a cold remember when carly rose Son, and Claire sang that song on X Factor
Starting point is 00:43:46 and like literally nobody was okay? No, we were not okay. And she had like a gospel choir and she wore a big white dress and it was like really moving. No, I need to go watch that after the episode. And she did like these harmonies. That's what I was just trying to do, but I fucked it up. It was like really beautiful.
Starting point is 00:44:02 It's gorgeous. I've seen your flag on the marble arch and love is not a victory like what does that song even mean honestly every time I sing it it's like one of my go-to songs in my repertoire the lyrics are not fucking English okay I've seen your flag on the marble arch and love is not a victory march it's a cold and it's a broken hallelujah. Like the fuck does that mean? Okay, let me look up the lyrics. Because maybe it's part of a larger story. You have to go in order. Baby, I've been here before.
Starting point is 00:44:31 I know this room. I've walked this floor. I used to live alone before I knew you. Ooh, that is, that makes sense. Yeah, I've seen your flag on the marble arch. But listen, love. Love is not some kind of victory march. No, it's cold and it's ever a broken hallelujah I'm not understanding I've seen a flag on the marble arch maybe it's like you see
Starting point is 00:44:55 the flag on the arch which would signify like the end a victory march but there's no end with love like it's an ongoing thing it's a broken hot like you know what I mean like it's not just like if there's a finish line and with love you know what I actually need like an a 10th grade English class remember we used to just sit and like decipher this dumb old shit yeah and like nobody cared because we were too young to appreciate it that's what I need with the song yeah beautiful stuff check it out for yourselves let us know what you think Halloween means in the comments I hope those Cohen kids you know figure that out I do hope justice is served because I when this sort of stuff happens it's horrible like someone's
Starting point is 00:45:36 legacy especially posthumously like yeah he's not here to speak for himself and to take advantage and also it's it's like his work isn't garbage. Like it's so meaningful. It's like religious almost. And yeah, no, I agree. It's different than like someone who, you know, singing someone else's words. Like this is his heart and soul. And so for it's like a true artist. For it to be mishandled in any way is really appalling.
Starting point is 00:46:01 No, and the Colonel Tom Parker comparison is a great one. Yeah, like Elvis didn't write all of his own songs. You know know he sang a lot of other people's songs nothing makes it any different or whatever but it's like this is like it's also different when it's like someone's poetry like does it get more personal no poetry poetry is more personal than comedy and poetry is more personal than food i would actually say like right now in thinking about it poetry i think is the most personal thing i've ever thought of no it's a deeply like personal you should keep a list of the most personal things of in order because we have poetry obviously food comedy and travel Poetry, comedy, food, travel. Poetry, comedy, food, travel. And then don't forget about reading books.
Starting point is 00:46:54 I would put that above travel. I think travel is so personal. Some person might want to go hike Machu Picchu, and another person might want to lay on the beach. And for those two people, the other sounds like torture. No, Jackie, everything on this list is personal, but something has to be lost. So true.
Starting point is 00:47:10 And you know what? They're so personal that I think even the ranking list is different. I agree. Personal ranking lists are more personal than comedy, travel, poetry. And you know what else is so personal? Podcasts.
Starting point is 00:47:24 Ain't that the truth? What truth you want to spend your time with i want to spend my time with jackson claude those gorgeous girlies agreed and you know what that's just a universal truth ain't that the truth well speaking of uh universal truths today's episode is sponsored by legacy box the countdown to, Hanukkah, Kwanzaa is on. Order today to get your Legacy Box in time for the holidays. Legacy Box is a great gift for you or someone you love. You can join the millions of customers who've trusted Legacy Box to safeguard their recorded moments,
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Starting point is 00:50:25 $50 Jackie I feel like you're a bar expert these days and you love go macro even they've been in our studio before they were a sponsor I'm always a bar expert mclardia and I love the go macro bars they're so tasty and they will actually keep you full it's not just like something that you tied over until like you find a snack five minutes later like it it's, I personally use them as a meal replacement, especially breakfast if I don't have time to like sit down and make a meal or I want to like, you know, have it up here with me while I pick the stories. Go Macro is like my breakfast of choice when I don't have the time or the energy to make a real breakfast.
Starting point is 00:50:58 And I know that it's going to keep me full till lunch. Like that's my favorite thing about it. It's made with amazing stuff and they taste so good. There are so many different flavors too. So's like go macro flavors are more personal than comedy more personal for than food but there's something for everyone like really some of the flavors are are not my favorites but then there are some that are like my favorite I really hope that the sister wife story is next it isives. Janelle and Cody Brown split after almost 30 years of marriage. Sister Wives stars Janelle and Cody Brown shocked viewers
Starting point is 00:51:31 following Sunday's season finale of the TLC reality series. In a trailer for the upcoming one-on-one specials, the former spouses confirmed that they are currently separated after nearly 30 years of marriage. They tied the knot in 1993 and share six adult children together. The split comes after a very tense year for the Brown family in the wake of Christine Brown's divorce from Cody
Starting point is 00:51:50 and her decision to move away from Flagstaff, Arizona to Utah. The split put a strain on Janelle's marriage to Cody as she continued to spend time with Christine and her kids. But there were many other factors that affected the pair's marriage, especially in more recent years. So one of the big things that affected their marriage was covid protocols in february 2021 cody told entertainment tonight quote janelle
Starting point is 00:52:13 and i i think are in a good place covid has put a real strain on our time together but we've survived times like this in the past there's no trouble in paradise janelle agreed at the time saying cody and i have definitely had challenges this year because we've had to spend more time apart than we ever have probably so it's definitely something I've had to think about and realize I still like him and want him around so that was kind of nice we've been married almost 30 years more time apart than ever who in COVID but anyways that's no because they all live in separate houses but that's changed as the wives started pointing out that some of Cody's hypocrisy when it comes to his COVID protocols.
Starting point is 00:52:47 This past season of Sister Wives, he officiated an indoor wedding without quarantining afterward, despite forcing his wives to quarantine from him if they traveled anywhere. In Sunday's finale. Right. So he essentially, like for his family, he's like the patriarch. He makes all the rules. He had these really strict COVID restrictions in place for his family that everyone had to follow except for him right so he would officiate a wedding and then not quarantine uh Cody told Janelle he didn't feel supported by her when it
Starting point is 00:53:12 came to his COVID restrictions which she took offense to she said Cody's acting like I was a COVID denier I was not a COVID denier I followed all the CDC rules I wore a mask I washed my hands I was careful I'm vaccinated for crying out loud I don't have to stand here and defend myself I don't have to be beaten into submission now that's not Cody like trying to gaslight his wife into like being a COVID denier like you're literally not even following your own motherfucking rules yeah no rules for but that's so that's so Cody Jackie like you don't understand like rules for everyone except for him like that is so cody to rules for thee but not for me it's so hypocritical and i like love that they're calling him out and obviously that's not why you break up a marriage but no but i think it
Starting point is 00:53:55 reveals something about a person's personality one to have like such draconian restrictions like in your own house when we're almost three years up and like that's fucking psychotic yeah and two to not even apply them to yourself like no you're gonna talk the talk you should walk the walk and I think this is just a glimpse into probably some other insane sort of ways behavior of his life I mean aside from being a polygamist polygamist right but um I also think Christine leaving who was the first wife who left was like a major move I think like she really gave Janelle the courage and you know what I think I said this the last time if I wait did Mary also leave you would know no but if I would have if I would have guessed any one of them to leave
Starting point is 00:54:47 when I used to watch a show it would have been Janelle that's what you said last time right so I feel like she's probably been having like a like not a great time for a while but then they got this tv show and life was good and they were making a lot of money from it and they're famous so I think that definitely prolonged the marriage but then seeing Christine who I never would have guessed Christine I thought Christine was his favorite so seeing Christine go probably gave her the courage and I won't be surprised if Mary goes next I don't know why I feel like Mary and him got divorced I'm not sure but also in a recent episode one of the sons tearfully recounted Cody calling him on his birthday and proceeding only to discuss COVID and forgetting his son's birthday in October 21.
Starting point is 00:55:28 The son said that they haven't spoken since. He's literally obsessed with COVID. What the fuck is that? And like COVID has turned into a mental illness for a lot of people, like not being able to let go of it. Move past it. And I don't know how you could stay married to someone like that who can't even remember his son's birthday because he's so caught up with COVID okay so now sister wives is just
Starting point is 00:55:49 Mary who's the OG wife Robin the last most recent wife and Cody Brown and fans are according to this tvshow.com fans are rejecting sister wives just starring Mary Mary, Robin, and Cody. I mean, it's just, it's a throuple. It's not Sister Wives. Okay, but it's more than one. Yeah. But you know, I think that Robin was really the, she shook up the whole family. I don't know if all these divorces would have happened
Starting point is 00:56:19 if they didn't, like years later, marry Robin. I think she was this young, hot thing. They had kids together. I think it was, I think it was toxic. Also, I saw in the article that like, he didn't want to be losing Robin's house. So he was like, wanted one of the other women to buy the house. They felt like she was being used just to like secure the house.
Starting point is 00:56:36 Like, I just don't feel like they feel cared about, which is like shocking. No, he like literally like, it was really with Robin. It was like shiny new thing. And they had kids together and it was like shiny new thing. Mm-hmm. And they had kids together and it was like very much newlyweds. And the other women, they were married for 20 years at that time. Like it was, it was a slap in the face.
Starting point is 00:56:52 Yeah. So. But you know what? Happy for Janelle. Honestly, Christine was always my favorite. So like she's out and I'm glad. Mary is, Mary was the first and honestly she was the most forgotten about. And she like was so desperate for his attention and love. It was actually sad.
Starting point is 00:57:08 And the fact that she's still there is. Reigns true. Yeah. There's a lot that COVID is like a part of this is so weird, like financial stuff, something with an RV and a coyote changing dynamics with, you know, the way that the marriage was changing. Just like most divorces, you know, it's not just one thing. One thing. No, and then they were like always on the run
Starting point is 00:57:31 because they're literally like living in sin. Yeah. I also think in reading this, like COVID gave him an excuse to spend more time with one person than another. Yes. And that's probably why he kept these protocols in place. Otherwise they be like well you can go from house to house we're not seeing other people it's my night tonight cody that doesn't work if no you're so he doesn't take it seriously it's not even about covid he's just using like like fake quarantine to manipulate the calendar
Starting point is 00:57:58 yeah and me like i could spend more time with robin i have to quarantine here sorry yeah and then robin left him because she had too much fucking time with him. She's like, get the fuck out of my face. Robin didn't leave. Robin didn't leave. Robin is the one I think he likes the best. And honestly, Mary is on her way out next. Yeah, Robin's the one he was spending the most time with.
Starting point is 00:58:14 Oh, so she's still around. Okay, cool. Yeah. He loves Robin. Robin's the most recent edition. Yeah. Robin's the most recent edition. Cool.
Starting point is 00:58:22 So now his remaining wives are Mary and Robin. Mary was the first wife ever. And Robin was the and Mary's probably like you know some girls are like let him get it like out of his system it's like 30 years of polygamy like out of the system only one two down one to go I think Mary is honestly just happy to still be here honestly like mary is and always was like desperately seeking attention from cody sad yeah okay well are you ready for our fifth and final story yes ma'am dictionary.com has chosen their 2022 word of the year i hope it's better what was uh miriam webster's we just reported on it. We just did.
Starting point is 00:59:05 Hold on. That's so true. We need to find it. Webster. Wait, Jackie, stop talking. I can't hear. Gaslight. Gaslight.
Starting point is 00:59:13 Okay. So I'm so curious which trend you would prefer here. Because dictionary. Oh, it's a trendy word. No, actually, it's the least trendy word ever. It is woman what dictionary.com has selected the word woman as its word of the year for 2022 people can exclusively reveal the word was selected in not not dictionary.com getting political well it's selected for a number of reasons one um because
Starting point is 00:59:42 it's typical that the word that the year is something that has been searched more than normal. And the volume of people searching the definition of the word woman has increased exponentially, I think doubled over the last 12 months. So the senior director of editorial at dictionary.com said woman and its definition were both at the center of various consequential moments discussions and decisions in our society in 2022 leading them to the selection selecting woman as our word of the year he says provides an acknowledgement of the gravity of the various events affecting women
Starting point is 01:00:16 in 2022 from our perspective as observers and recorders of language change the word woman is a prime example of the many gender terms undergoing shifts in how and to whom they're applied. Okay. So I think it's a number of things. One, more people searched it than ever because I think also this question of what is a woman has been trending all year.
Starting point is 01:00:38 So I think that led a lot of people to just ask dictionary.com. Right. But I think they're also- What is, by the the way what is the definition of woman you know what I actually did the same thing when I was looking I was like what is the dictionary definition it is adult female person a female employee or representative that's like that's like using the the word in a definition yes no a woman is a is a woman and then so then i was like okay so what's a female right what's a female a female is relating to or being a woman or a girl oh my god not them sending us in circles here of relating to or being a person with a certain combination of sex
Starting point is 01:01:17 characteristics commonly including two x chromosomes in the cell nuclei a vagina a uterus and ovaries and enlarged breasts developed at puberty oh well then i'm a woman today i'm a real large breast i am woman hear me roar in numbers too big to ignore um okay well that's definitely different than gaslight even though you know women's favorite activity is gaslighting that's definitely one of my favorite activities. The two are similar. Inextricably linked. That's so funny. And then also, you know, they're taking their stance in support of women.
Starting point is 01:01:55 You know, I appreciate that. I am a woman and I've actually felt like in recent years that dictionary.com didn't have my back. And now that I kind of have concrete proof That dictionary.com Does in fact have my back I am Changes everything Changes everything Nothing will ever be the same No it won't
Starting point is 01:02:13 Do you want to hear What the runner ups were? Sure The Ukraine flag emoji It's not a word That would have been So terrible If they chose that that's not a word you cannot choose an emoji as a word that would be like the end of language you would think that
Starting point is 01:02:33 dictionary.com would know that an emoji is not a word that they would be scrupled and i would also think that dictionary.com would be like a little anti-emoji because I do think people use emojis as like sort of a crutch in place of language yeah so that was disappointing obviously I'm glad they didn't choose it but the fact that it could have been an emoji that that's literally so stupid I actually have a question for you but I'm going to give you the rest of the short list the word inflation facts that is what the year was about, yeah. Facts. Quiet quitting.
Starting point is 01:03:09 Oh, that's a good thing. It's a trend. I'm actually not familiar with it. Also, I don't know how to tell them this. That's two words. Ooh, shots fucking fired. I know, but the thing is they're language experts. They're not math experts.
Starting point is 01:03:22 Can't expect them. That's for math.com. You can't expect them to know both yes not fair another option was democracy great always important always and wordle which was added to the dictionary in 2022 another one that would have been an insane disappointment especially since wordle was relevant for one whole month for one day one day it was a good month it was the last month of my maternity leave. And then I gave birth and I never played again.
Starting point is 01:03:48 I actually sometimes remember Wordle as a thing. And I just like do it. But I wish I kept up with it. It's actually like a fun thing. There's been too many, ever since the New York Times bought it, there's been too many like clerical errors where two words work or you can't get the word.
Starting point is 01:04:03 And it wasn't like that before before he sold out no also when the new york times bought it it ruined all the fun like at first it was just you know people coming together and now there's corporate greed yeah and it wasn't it wasn't the vibe and i'm sorry like wordle isn't a big enough of a thing for it to become a word like google has now after 30 years of dominance in the space and it is a verb, it is a word and it's a noun. No. Obviously. And honestly, the fact that New York Times bought it and didn't like immediately release an app.
Starting point is 01:04:32 Then we would all remember if we got a notification every day, like kind of like be real. Like it was it wasn't even world dot com. You would have to Google Wordle. And it was just too hard. Yeah. So I don't even think it deserves to be in the dictionary as a word. It was a fleeting moment. And they're just always a trend trying they're always everyone's so thirsty like can't anyone just like do their jobs and and take the internet out of it yeah no they can't but
Starting point is 01:04:57 I I wish they would especially fucking dictionary.com you would think no but dictionary.com is like kind of like cheesy and tacky and like poor man's version of Merriam-Webster. Yeah, and like dictionary.com doesn't have like a physical dictionary, right? Yeah, I would actually, I would expect this type of like moronic, sophomoric behavior from dictionary.com, but I expected better from Merriam. Yeah, or like Oxford. Right. Oxford would Or like Oxford. Right.
Starting point is 01:05:26 Oxford would never. Never. Okay. My question for you is. What would you say is your emoji of the year? Who fucking cares? I do. What was your most used emoji this year?
Starting point is 01:05:39 Or emoji that sums up your feelings? Honestly, it would just be like the money flying away because i feel like i was like grinding so hard this year but it's like i can't keep up you know can't keep up yeah my favorite emoji i think this is two years running is the one that's like that that face that connotes yikes it's like yeah like squiggly mouth squiggly mouth and like one eye red yeah that's mine um okay so those were the fast moronic stories that you needed to know and i feel as though you needed to know them and i had a great time doing it. I really did. Always a pleasure. It's been a pleasure doing business with you.
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