The Toast - Happy Chooseday, Maggie Gyllenhaal!: Thursday, June 6th, 2024

Episode Date: June 6, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 one good morning millennials and welcome back to the toast happy thursday hope everybody's having a blessed day thus far acknowledging the space that they're in and that space is the latter half of the week we're pretty much done at this point you know if you round up it's a very exciting time of the week as we slide into the latter half on a thursday welcome everyone to the show so excited to be here still in florida hanging with my girl who's looking especially trad wife today. You're putting the home in Homesteader. Well thank you so much. Once again this is a dress that I already owned since I think 2019 back when I used to order avocado toast. Like it's not just because I make my own bread that I have this dress is what I'm saying. It's kind of like what came first the bread or the dress and in this case the dress. The dress
Starting point is 00:00:43 and it's just so nice to wear a long dress and not have to worry about like pulling things down all the time. Like it's a joy, really. I need more. Are you going to be joining the modest dressing movement or as our people call it, SNEWT? I've been trying. I've been trying to order seamless dresses that are like teacup length, but it's really hard to find ones that look good on you.
Starting point is 00:01:03 On short people. Yeah. So I've had to make some returns. But I will continue my pursuit. I haven't really found anything yet. OK. You just reminded me of something. I figured I learned something on TikTok.
Starting point is 00:01:14 Because like you, I'm 4'12". Call back. And every time I buy a pair of pants, even if I like them, I have to get every pair of pants hemmed. And it's an expensive part of my life. And so unnecessary, especially for a pair of jeans. even if I like them like I have to get every pair of pants hemmed and it's like an expensive part of my life and so unnecessary especially for like a pair of jeans like who gets jeans hemmed like you don't I don't like that's why a part of my journey like into pants and jeans has been stalled because I am so limited okay so like with trousers like yeah okay I'll get whatever so on TikTok I learned about this thing called a rotary knife I think it's called
Starting point is 00:01:42 do you know what that is it looks like a pizza slicer but it's for fabric I guess they use it you know down in the fabric district where Jackie Goldschneider works and you just like kind of like pizza slice the bottom of your pants and like it like hems your pants interesting it's really for jeans because it leaves them sort of like raw which is like that look um so I just bought it and I'm really excited about it I haven't been able to use it yet because it arrived right before I left for Florida got it I feel like with jeans and I'm really excited about it. I haven't been able to use it yet because it arrived right before I left for Florida. Got it. I feel like with jeans and I have my established jeans now and the way it works best for me is like getting an ankle cut for a tall person. I just get it for myself and then it's normal length. These days a lot of brands do petite and regular
Starting point is 00:02:19 sizing. Shout out to the brands that are carrying not petite because petite also implies thin. No being like petite means short. Well, so now they have tall and- Like you can get a petite XL. Yeah, that's when I first started wearing jeans from Topshop. They were pretty good at that. Shout out to Spanx, Abercrombie. They're making lines of clothing like for short people.
Starting point is 00:02:36 Thank you so much. Yeah, so I'm in a good place with that. Yeah, it's a good feeling to be seen in that way. Yeah, I've got like my black jeans, my white jeans, my yellow jeans. Yellow. I have a pair of yellow. Yeah. You do have a pair of yellow. I need a couple plenty pairs of jeans. I'm not there yet. You know, that's that's kind of like advanced level jean wearing colors. Well, no, for me, advanced level jean wearing is like actual jean. Right. Like blue. Blue, light blue, light wash. Blue Jean, baby.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Like classic Jeans, that's where I'm not at yet. But you know where I am at? Barbara Jean. Barbara Jean. And I will always be with Barbara Jean, even though I stand firmly with Reba in that scenario. Barbara Jean was like incredibly toxic. And I saw someone make a TikTok about it,
Starting point is 00:03:21 and I'm glad people are talking about it because re-watching the show, like that was kind of my major takeaway like it's like a haha family friendly show but no Reba's husband left her for this woman who then like foists herself upon Reba like comes to her house every day like wants to be best friends wants to be the stepmom like how about fuck off like boundaries if BJ that's what I call her Barbara Jean wasn't like the queen that she is and she was just a regular person like seriously we would all hate her right right and that's not having a good personality seriously yeah it makes up for a lot and i think you know the message was like barbara jean like made a mistake you know
Starting point is 00:03:53 in what sense in being the other woman because you know spoiler alert her brock ended up getting divorced really yeah so she made a mistake and it was like all that for nothing well not a mistake because they had a beautiful child together okay Okay. But you know what I mean. Like, it wasn't that Barbara Jean was a bad person. She was a good person who did a bad thing. Interesting. I didn't realize these dynamics were at play. It's kind of a layered show.
Starting point is 00:04:14 And it's a little, you know, watching it now as a grown up, like you see there are different dynamics at play. It's mature. Yeah. It's for mature audiences. Contant. We were not mature audiences When we were watching it No I think about that a lot Like things we watched as kids
Starting point is 00:04:28 That we certainly should have been watching Degrassi But we didn't understand Which is good No but I definitely learned Like I don't know what I want to say this word It's kind of a crazy word to say But like I learned
Starting point is 00:04:39 Like what rape is From Degrassi And I think I was far too young To be like knowing what that is Yeah I never heard that word before And like what rape is from Degrassi. And I think I was far too young to be like knowing what that is. Yeah. Yeah. I never heard that word before and like what the meaning meant. And they just right there explained it to me.
Starting point is 00:04:50 It was an advanced show. Yeah. It was, you know, for fast kids. For mature audiences. Mature content. Yeah. Mature children. We've got a great show today.
Starting point is 00:04:59 We are just, you know, going to do our thing. And in addition to being podcasting,ing you know podcasters to the stars jackie and i are also models today because we have a huge day of photo shooting we have like new merch coming out we also just like need new headshots because like we said we're like actors models you know constantly on set and so we have this like big photo shoot today which is probably um why we look so gorgeous yeah we both really look like next level. We did our hair, makeup. We have a really big afternoon of modeling, which is hard work.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Oh, and we'll be modeling outside. And I feel like we might not even need to do extra activity for our aura rings. Oh, no. However, we have to play pickleball because we haven't played one since you've been here because we've been so busy. I know. And tonight could be the night,
Starting point is 00:05:40 except Summer House is on. And tonight could be the night, except we're going to be so tired from modeling. Well, that's actually true. We're going to gonna be like i'm not going back outside we're gonna be like i can't even like pick up the remote to put on summer house like we're gonna be so tired i'm excited about summer house we haven't watched anything together either since you've been here tv has not even been put on so it's gonna be a fun last night together last night of camp because turdy is heading home tomorrow yeah which is sad and i feel like usually we
Starting point is 00:06:04 never know when you're leaving. Yeah. You never know. To just sort of have this like finite day. It feels weird. But it is making me appreciate the moments. Like last night I came to your room. Like I don't think I would have done that if your trip was open ended.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Well, Jackie had the gall to do something that was so crazy last night. Like she had to edit the redheads and she was like, listen, I can't really hang tonight. We like finished, you know, cleaning, you know, being aunties and mothers, like being, you know, business owners at like eight o'clock. And Jackie was like, I can't really like girly tonight. I have to read the redheads. She was sort of like, you're on your own. And I thought it was OK.
Starting point is 00:06:33 I went over to Olivia's. I needed to tell you that boundary. Otherwise, I would have like we would have stayed up all night with you and then gotten to bed at 11 o'clock and then have to edit it. So then at 10 o'clock when she was done, she FaceTimes me. I'm upstairs in my room, you know, being a good house guest and she's facetiming me like what she always does like right when she's out of the shower I know she like loves to do her like girly things in the sink and sticks her phone up on the mirror and calls me and it's like my favorite time of day when I'm at home
Starting point is 00:06:55 so she's like facetiming me like gossiping about stuff I'm like why don't you just come upstairs she's like yeah I guess I could I'll be up in 20 and she was up like 30 minutes later we did a nice girly chit chat i was finishing editing the redheads i had to do my skincare like i couldn't come upstairs right out of the shower i had to dry off so you were in the shower i was in the shower that's why i called you while you were in the shower yes we've been quoting legally blonde a lot recently i can't say the word father anymore like certain words like change like have meaning over time and to me like if you're gonna say the word father how would you feel if your father was marrying someone your own age i can't say how would you feel without saying how would you feel i can't say me without me i can't say screw sisterhood screw sisterhood never never that's
Starting point is 00:07:39 like one thing victor garber and i don't agree on yeah he. He was having an off day. Even like heroes have off days. Yeah. So as I was saying, we have a great show. Today's a kind of light and easy because tomorrow we have Summer House. Tomorrow we have Queenie and Weenie. Today we have nothing.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Yesterday we have Deer Toasters. Today we're just kind of untethered. Yeah, we are. But I am tethered to the Redheads which dropped today. Great episode. Major announcement in the episode. I'm not going to spoil it.
Starting point is 00:08:05 Oh my God. Yes. Like, and this is not us being like clickbaity, stupid, annoying. Like I forgot that that was going up. Oh, I'm so excited. So that's very exciting. I want you guys to experience the announcement as it happens. Don't go looking for it.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Like it's a joyous announcement. You won't even know where to find it. It's also like in parts throughout the episode, like more stuff is emerging. Like somebody might like leave a comment on the post or like go to the facebook group no no just go listen and enjoy it you'll be so happy yeah great book great show great girls greatness just greatness all around i really need to read more this month like actually i already have my goals for the month i'm not gonna add more to it you know because i have my wellness fitness goals and like okay so I'm not one thing at a time I'm not gonna add a reading goal because that might take away from my other goal yeah maybe I'll be reading and snacking that's not gonna work
Starting point is 00:08:52 but reading and snacking is so much fun yeah no I should be like hitting my activity goals not my reading goals yeah you just you can't do both like we're just we're just human beings you know yeah yeah I'm definitely not reading my hitting goals. That's good that you're not reading them. Yeah. How are the stories today? Celeb focused. Do it that way you may.
Starting point is 00:09:15 Is that bad or good? Don't we do like celebrity stories every day? One, it depends who you ask is that bad or good. Everyone has a different sort of thing that they like for the stories. And yes, we do celebrity every day but there's usually like one or two that are not so celebrity like what you would read weekly you know and then of course like the circus freak people news there's none of that it's like very us weekly um i actually wanted to talk about this on the show so i made a tiktok yesterday you know, it was like hot take alert. And I hate when people do that because they'll be like hot take and say something so boring and lame.
Starting point is 00:09:48 It's like, okay, thanks. Yeah, we knew that. But I actually gave a hot take. And people are fighting in the comments about it. And I'd like to get your take on it. I do think you'll agree with me. Because especially on TikTok, there's always having conversations. And Tinks talks about this a lot.
Starting point is 00:09:59 And I think this is something Tinks and I will disagree on. She calls it like boyfriend sickness. When, you know, we always like clown on friends who who like get a boyfriend and then you see them significantly less because they're hanging out with their boyfriend and then what's the boyfriend sickness who's sick the girl like you don't see her because she's sick with her boyfriend i i think that's too i'm not sure not the former friend who's sick because her other friend got a boyfriend no no i think the way tinks describes it and forgive me if i'm using her phrase wrong um like boyfriend sickness is like oh where's talia we haven't seen her in her phrase wrong, like boyfriend sickness is like, oh, where's Talia?
Starting point is 00:10:26 We haven't seen her in a while. She's got boyfriend sickness. Okay. So she's just like in that stage with her boyfriend. And so my hot take was- Soaking up each other's awesomeness. Soaking up each other's awesomeness. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:10:34 And my hot take was like, I really don't like that narrative. I feel like it's so wrong. I see it more as, no, no, no. The part of your life where you consistently all the time hang out with your girlfriends like is over. And yeah, like a friend who's dating someone who's hopefully going to be like her husband, her life partner, the father of her children, like and spending like a lot of time with him. No, that's like growing up. That's evolution. Like I think the girls who like sit around talking shit about the girl who has like too much time with her boyfriend, like you guys
Starting point is 00:11:02 are the toxic ones, not the friend who just got a boyfriend yeah i agree the friend in that situation who's complaining her friend has boyfriend sickness like is a toxic friend who's immature and like thinks what we're gonna have sleepovers and braid each other's hair forever like sure nice but people need to grow up you know civilization needs to repopulate itself like it is time so the comments were really divided half the people were like thank you like yes and then the other half were like no you should be able to prioritize both. And I just don't think like your friendship should be of equal priority.
Starting point is 00:11:28 By the way, having friends and spending time with your friends is so important. And especially the older you get, I feel like you need it even more. But you have a million friends when you're in college. And when you're 35, you don't have a million friends. You hopefully have like four or five
Starting point is 00:11:39 really, really good friends who you lean on. But wait, I lost my train of thought. What was I saying right before this? Oh, the comments were really divided. But I don't think like your friendships should be of the same priority level as your relationship. Well, here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:11:54 That is, priorities, there is a hierarchy. So you can't say you need to give equal priority to your friends in your relationship. Like you have to choose one that's called having a priority. There can be a number two, not far behind, but like it's never going to be equal and what are your priorities and we need to make choices and people don't want to do that they're like i love everyone i want to see everyone no like what is your priority in life and maybe for some people it
Starting point is 00:12:16 is their friends and it's having those friendships and men what like sex in the city men come and go and wear each other's soulmates that could could be you. Love that for you. For other people, not so much. No, and also what somebody had commented that I thought was really insightful is like it's also like we don't have endless time in the day. So when you are like merging lives with someone, you have their family and friends now to think about. So like naturally because that's how time works
Starting point is 00:12:40 and you are going to have to like divide up your time differently. And just because like you're seeing someone less, like that doesn't make you a bad friend. They're like, she's not a girl's girl. Like, I just don't like that. I don't agree. I don't agree with it. So yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:49 That's not what we meant when we said girl's girl. Yeah. That like we're going to be with you all the time and we're going to like sacrifice everything for you. Right. That's not what it means to be a girl's girl. So I was kind of making waves on TikTok last night. 200,000 views.
Starting point is 00:13:02 Yeah. I think it's an important message that you're spreading. Just my, it's not a message. You don't have to agree with me i just like i think the other side doesn't get talked about enough perspective that you're spreading we're always like shitting on the girls who like disappear a little bit once they get a boyfriend and like i just wanted to offer like perhaps another perspective for those girls you know yeah and it's like they probably didn't see it though because they're with their boyfriends and also for the girl for the friend it's like what would you do if you were in that situation really you would probably be boyfriend sick too so it's
Starting point is 00:13:29 a bit of jealousy and it's a bit of selfishness that it's not you well I think a layer that people don't say because it sounds a little mean and I don't mean it to be mean it's like the friend who is like more often like sitting the friends who are like sitting around complaining like they probably aren't in relationships yet like Like they're the single ones. So I have to assume there's like an element of like bitterness there too, because they might understand it once they reach that phase. And they will. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:53 And I guess it's just everyone, like what is everyone's ultimate goal here? Because I think for some people, it is to be in a relationship, to get married and to have children. But if that's not everyone's, then they might not be able to understand why you would prioritize your relationship. If that's not your future, then they might not be able to understand why you would prioritize your relationship
Starting point is 00:14:06 if that's not your future. I guess it just boils down to like everyone being different. And everyone have different dreams. And as an elk of a dreamer, like I get that, you know? Are you the elk of a dreamer? No, actually, I'm like extremely realistic to the point where it actually holds me back from doing things because I'm like,
Starting point is 00:14:20 it's not gonna work out. Yeah, it holds me back from dreaming because my feet are too firmly planted on the ground. I would say the same for me. Yeah, I feel like maybe that's something we could work on like being a little bit more delusional because you know I have friends that are so insane it goes against everything I know I believe I like I have people in my life they're so like insane in a good way like they're so delusional you know every now and then things work out for them I'm like you know what good for you yeah and they really I have to imagine like it worked out because they put that out there.
Starting point is 00:14:46 I don't know. I think you either have it or you don't. And I think like being a realist who's veering into doing some dreaming is going to hurt you because you're so aware of the reality. The thing is, yeah, as a realist, like veering into dreamland is really only going to hurt you. But as a dreamer veering into reality land, it's going to help you in the long run. It's going to be hard. It's going to be hard. But it's going to help you. That's why they don veering into reality land, it's going to help you in the long run. It's going to be hard.
Starting point is 00:15:05 It's going to be hard. But it's going to help you. That's why they don't come here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They stay there. We're just kind of giving like, you know, doctors without borders. Like we are just doctors with borders.
Starting point is 00:15:15 It's giving boundaries. Yeah, it is. And know thyself. The three words it's giving boundaries are three words I never want to say ever again. Like that to me is like the lowest bar internet talk. Like three brain cells. It's giving boundaries are three words I never want to say ever again like that to me is like the lowest bar internet talk like three brain cells it's giving boundaries but it depends if you're saying it in a positive or negative way well I was if I'm saying it ironically I'm all here for it but I just said it like in a dead serious way and I'll never say it again because
Starting point is 00:15:38 I'm listening and I'm learning and you're doing better I'm doing better gil it's giving doing better it's giving best it's giving doing better every day which is all we can strive for there are people who really talk like that like no i know but they don't listen to this podcast what do you say after that those people aren't Listening to this podcast So I feel good about that I think that's actually Something we've actively Shot out Is like avoiding
Starting point is 00:16:08 Getting that type of audience Yeah But do you Persona Bon voyage What does persona Non grata mean Like
Starting point is 00:16:17 Unimportant No Like Anonymous No Persona non grata Like X Like Bad person Oh radioactive Yeah I think Unimportant? No Like Anonymous? No Persona non grata Like Hex
Starting point is 00:16:25 Like Bad person Oh radioactive Yeah I think I'll see what it translates to What is it? Latin?
Starting point is 00:16:32 Oh I kind of like that I didn't know that that's what it meant And I feel as though I use the word radioactive Actually quite a lot A persona non grata It's in diplomacy Is a foreign diplomat Who was asked by the host country
Starting point is 00:16:42 To be recalled to their home country Oh it's giving expelled. Right. But what does it mean colloquially? A person who is unacceptable or unwelcome. It's giving ex. That's like something I truly never want to be. You're not persona non grata.
Starting point is 00:16:55 No, but I have been in my life. For sure. Personally, professionally. Never with you, though. You've always made me feel like a person with grata. You're so grata to me. You're grotta to me. That original song from Ted.
Starting point is 00:17:10 You're timeless to me. It's from Ted? Yeah, right? When? Wait. There's an original song in the opening credits of Ted the movie. The first one. Ted movie original song.
Starting point is 00:17:20 Is that, that's it, right? You're time. Everybody needs a best friend no there's a different song about my bed no way you're timeless to me song is from hairspray oh it always comes back to hairspray that's a low in the movie you could definitely use the bathroom we get a snack who's singing you're timeless to me john javolta walk in yeah and they're dancing around in the laundry on the roof yeah he's the best room okay by the way I think there's also another lull big blonde and beautiful when Michelle Pfeiffer and John Travolta are like yeah singing it separately yeah that's I
Starting point is 00:17:55 think probably the worst song in the movie a lot to do with the parents is definitely yeah you could skip check your phone yeah I completely agree yeah turn it off register to vote register to vote vote.org thank you lady gaga for the important message so i'm like totally ready to dive in i'm ready as well without further ado here are the past five stories that you need to know and i'm actually like hella excited because today's episode is brought to you by splash splash oh you guys claudia's new personality trait is Splash Refreshers. Jackie, thankfully, I had sent her a grocery order prior to my arrival. You know, please do the shopping.
Starting point is 00:18:31 And I forgot to write Splash. And thankfully, I walk into her garage. The biggest pile of Splash. And no one's allowed to touch the wild berry. They know that that's my flavor. So if it weren't for Splash, to put it simply, I would be dead. Because you guys know I can't drink plain water. It's just not for me. And it sucks because it's so good Splash, to put it simply, I would be dead. Because you guys know I can't drink plain water. It's just, it's not for me.
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Starting point is 00:19:21 I've drink, I'm drinking like six bottles of water a day here. I always take one out of the fridge. They're so good. I love them. And they just look like regular water. So everyone thinks, oh, she's so mature. That's why her skin is glowing. She's drinking a lot of water.
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Starting point is 00:22:12 joining Wondery Plus. I think that's a great concept for a podcast, The Big Flop. And I had not heard about the Olestra saga of the early 90s. And that sounds fabulous to go listen to that after you listen to the toast. Yes. And after you listen to the redheads of course our first story the voice making news the new coaches this season have been announced adam levine is returning to the voice as a coach john legend michael buble and first time coach kelsey ballini. And I just want to say Kelsey Ballerini deserved more than this group of losers. Like you guys know how I feel about Michael Buble. You OK. I know how you feel about Michael Buble.
Starting point is 00:22:53 But I actually think and apparently he's a returning coach. So this is I don't remember. But I hadn't known that he was coaching on The Voice. And so now I'm evaluating that choice. And I actually think he would. He's a good choice for one of these shows because he's super talented he's very musical and he covers a category that's not really represented i don't even know what to call it opera it's it's wannabe frank sinatra voices it's wannabe frank sinatra bvs it's like a josh groban's like we wish you wish you were
Starting point is 00:23:21 josh groban and but i also feel like weirdly on the voice and these talent shows, a lot of people have that sort of voice. They don't know what to do with it. And Michael Bublé could show you how to make a career of it. So once again, they're trying to make me, and by they, I mean you, trying to make me like Michael Bublé.
Starting point is 00:23:36 I won't. Michael Bublé, Instagram live with wife, go search it. Like seriously, he gives me the willies. I'll never forget that. Like seriously, it was so chilling. But I also- It's very you there there's somebody walking around wearing such a mask of who they are and to see it publicly slip yeah i'll never forget it it gave me such a chill down my spine i think about her all the time and i think his wife's name is claudia like maybe that's
Starting point is 00:24:00 why i felt a connection interpersonally connected to the story they could never make me like him and I won't I will also say a reason why he might not be a great judge even though apparently he's been judging and it's going well is like I feel like on a personality level not the best no he thinks he's like a real and the thing is it's very much a talking head job you have to come up with like jokes and one-liners and there have also been like rumors allegedly that Michael Bublé is just like diva like he thinks he's like such a big star and um in some circles yeah maybe he is a star but like on the voice and with all these other like actually famous people like Michael Bublé like is probably the least famous I would say would you agree no in this situation like objectively Kelsey's coming in yeah it's like the newbie yeah um whatever I just think he's gonna have a hard
Starting point is 00:24:42 time like not being like the biggest Number one guy in the group Like for real He gives me like Nightmare energy I just really don't like him First of all Second of all Like have we been waiting
Starting point is 00:24:51 But I think of the three Male judges He is like This That really has to prove himself More than anyone else Whereas like Kelsey Like one she's the only female
Starting point is 00:25:00 Like two she's so fabulous Like we're all listening To what she's saying She's not gonna have to Work as hard as he will When you come in And you're like the only country you're like bound to get like so many people on your team because the only female yeah so true i could see her winning were we all waiting around for adam levine to come back like i also don't love adam levine
Starting point is 00:25:17 like i i like him as a voice judge no i feel like he should stay in that chair for life forever like him and blake shelton should do the voice for life weirdly i think they all work well i agree and i don't like all the changing of the not that i watch the voice so this isn't for me maybe the voice watchers are like we like fresh judges every season but i like consistency i agree and i i like the idea of like i think that's when american idol really started to go south when we strayed from Simon, Paula, and Randy. But Simon stayed around for a while. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:48 And we don't have that like one constant. It was Blake Shelton, but this is I think his first season not being on. And then when Blake Shelton's there, I want Gwen Stefani there. Yeah. Just to finish up the circle, I also don't like John Legend. No, no. Me neither. So I just think Kelsey deserved better.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Here's my dream lineup for Kelsey. Okay. Even though they're like all country. I'll have to switch it up. Okay. Kelsey, Kelly Clarkson. I'm going to try and go two boys, two girls. Honestly, bring back CeeLo Green.
Starting point is 00:26:16 Like he was great and funny. And I would love Blake Shelton, but like him, Kelly, and Kelsey, it's like too much. Okay, but can't you just build a favorites voice cast? not about Kelsey just about like your faves oh yeah okay and I won't include include Kelsey well I haven't seen her on yet but you know but really just Kelly I liked when Christina was on too yeah I like the OGs they should do an OG season who's OG Blake Adam Christina and CeeLo Christina was og sure original voice judges i think you're right that sounds familiar to me and i think christina aguilera silo green adam levine blake sheldon yeah i also just feel like we can't talk about the voice without me just
Starting point is 00:27:01 mentioning how like being a judge on a show like The Voice is literally my dream job. Sitting? Sitting and telling people they either. In a big chair? Sitting in a big chair being on camera like in millions of homes telling people either like they're not good at singing or if they are like getting to hear beautiful people singing my favorite popular music. I actually can't think of a more amazing job. Well it doesn't even matter if they're beautiful because you don't see them. No the is beautiful oh beautiful and i don't even have to turn around there's literally a button it's like a robotic chair you literally could not have created a job more perfect for me yeah i would do american idol 2 x factor like i loved to watch those and i would love to be on them that's like seriously my dream okay but how would you feel about and i feel how
Starting point is 00:27:42 would you feel if your father married someone your own age Yeah I feel like with the voice You don't get bad singers You just get some people who aren't like amazing Like who have a nice voice Maybe they should sing on their podcast sometime But they shouldn't pursue singing So like how would you feel about being a dream crusher I think I would prefer that over being on American Idol
Starting point is 00:27:59 Where they actually have like bad singers Come on that feels mean spirited to me And I think I would get a pit If somebody came on and they're like such a bad singer Knowing. That feels mean spirited to me. And I think I would get a pit if somebody came on and they're like such a bad singer, knowing like this would just be used to embarrass them. I'm sure if we watch now, like we'd realize they don't really do bad singers anymore.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Yeah. The voice to me seems like the most humane. I guess you could just like not turn and like you've said what you said. Yeah. And even when they don't turn, they turn around and they always say nice things. I come back and they give them helpful tips.
Starting point is 00:28:25 You know, I love to criticize and, like, be constructive. But then I'm like Simon. Like, don't come back if you're not, if you don't have what it takes to make it. Like, don't waste your time. I'm doing you a favor. If somebody was really bad, I wouldn't tell them to come back. Not really bad. See, this is the part that's hard.
Starting point is 00:28:39 Good, really good, not great, not good enough. No, but you know what? The most popular singers in the world aren't the best vocalists in the world. Like, just because, like, pop stardom and singerdom musicians, it's not a meritocracy. Because if it were, like, half the people who are famous would not be famous. For sure, but this is called the voice, not the brand. No, not like the luck.
Starting point is 00:29:04 Not the songwriterwriter that's so fair we're going voice only this is the voice I love what they did there also one of my favorite parts of the voice is like once or maybe twice a season they have all the four coaches sing together um I again won't be watching this one because I like literally hate three out of four of the judges and I love one of them which sucks um but you know which one I really loved Reba, Niall Horan, Gwen Stefani and John Legend uh they got together and sang I think like a Hall and Oates song like I really went and I had never heard of the song running down the road trying to loosen my load I I swear there's something on my mind. Like Niall carried and Reba was there
Starting point is 00:29:50 helping. Niall literally opened so good. It's one of my, I saw it on TikTok. I remember I was like literally drunk in the back of an Uber just scrolling TikTok. I saved it. I couldn't stop watching it. And I kept waiting for them to like drop it on streaming platforms. They didn't. It was so good. Maybe you just like Hall and Oates. No, I don't. But so random. Did you see Oates is on GMA this morning talking about their feud? No.
Starting point is 00:30:12 Apparently, and I'm going to misrepresent. Hall is suing Oates or Oates is suing Hall. I think Oates wanted to sell his 50% of like the catalog. And Hall was like not down. And Hall then sued him claiming he was trying to sell it to like a it's literally wrote in the in the uh document bad faith actor i don't know what's going on but the holland oats community like they're devastated michael strahan was like will you guys ever work together the guy was like fuck no he's suing me like for real for years like i
Starting point is 00:30:39 hate this man wow yeah also i'm sure it's more layered the judges that you just also grouped like doesn't sound good to me either oh my god it sounds amazing reba gwen you love gwen nile nile was amazing and then john legend it's hard i think i'm a really tough critic i'm a tough judge of judges yeah oh ari was good but she kind of was like too big she like sucked all the air out of the room yeah it's never who you think like that's my favorite judges in herstory aren't the people who are like my favorite singers even yeah alicia keys was good yeah i guess i also don't watch like never really have watched so i'm just like yeah we have a lot to say for two girls who don't watch meaning like pregnancy notions based on like maybe minute long snippets I've seen of their personality over the years. Do me a favor.
Starting point is 00:31:27 When you crawl into bed tonight, don't start feeling sad, okay? Okay. Google Reba Nile. I will. Google that performance. It'll give you chills, you guys. Watch it right now.
Starting point is 00:31:35 I don't doubt that it's a good performance. I'm just saying like I don't want to hear all of them. I'm sorry. The song is by the Eagles. I remember now. That's funny. I kind of want to like, I need to learn that song. Like it really made me, the song is by the Eagles, I remember now. That's funny. I kind of want to like, I need to learn that song.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Like, it really made me like the song. Got seven minutes on my mind. Speaking of perfectly cast talent shows, bring back Songland. She didn't miss a beat, okay? Bring back Songland. Where is Songland? Where is Esther? Don't ask us Songland.
Starting point is 00:32:03 Where is Shane? Where is Ryan? Like, literally perfection. is song land where is esther don't ask us song where is shane where is ryan like literally perfection like and so many songs that i love were from song and they had great talent they had great songwriters they had great judges they had great guests like perfection in a show another thing covet took from us thanks yeah i kind of want to re-watch it no it's so good it's so good of course it's so good like everything i love good. Of course, it's so good. Like everything I love doesn't get a third season.
Starting point is 00:32:27 Yeah. Just know like if you and Jackie have something in common that you like love, it's getting canceled. So you should probably just stop watching. What happened to the show Songland? It's been close to two years since the last episode of Songland aired. Fans have been wondering if there will be a third season. Here's the latest information.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Those articles like never actually tell you anything claudia there's literally nothing no they start like what is songland where could you have watched songland and then it's like what happened to songland and there's an ad yep that's exactly what happened to me every time i go to like like look something up that i actually need to know the answer to no no well i'm sure it's like not canceled neither here nor there i just sort of in the nbc's waiting to see if there's enough buzz Let's create the buzz Yeah but Songland like getting canceled
Starting point is 00:33:08 Is exactly like it makes perfect sense Meanwhile It was too good for this world Yeah You know Yeah Are you ready for our next story? Yeah
Starting point is 00:33:18 A little more Ben and Jen news Because divorce rumors are heating up As their 60 million dollar Beverly Hills mansion Pops up on a real estate site Ooh that's not good in a potential sign of estrangement which we will evaluate the potentiality based on the facts photos of j-lo and ben what's that from based on help oh we don't discriminate based on gender here at aleria we don't discriminate based on gender iconic like seriously ally giving champion of women here at illyria we don't discriminate based on gender i'm so glad we just like were able to place that yeah photos of jaylen ben avleck's marital home
Starting point is 00:34:03 have reappeared online According to the Daily Mail A number of previously unavailable images Were uploaded to the Zillow profile Of the couple's Beverly Hills mansion On June 1st and 5th Signaling that Though still listed as sold It may soon be back on the market
Starting point is 00:34:14 Along with the pop star and actor Oof Okay so just want to say Like it's not confirmed for sale No But like it looks like They're preparing it for sale Like uploading photos and things
Starting point is 00:34:23 Yeah Because celebrities don't like Having photos of their homes online unless they absolutely have to Yeah so let's just say for argument's sake it's going to be on on the market To me like this is A smoking gun Yeah Yeah I guess like they're not Gwyneth like their kid didn't just graduate from high school
Starting point is 00:34:41 And they're empty nesters it's better like Their family's getting bigger you know blended And also if they are going through a hard time based on like professional stuff i think they are going through a hard time but they're working through it is what i think it's not the time to move from one 60 million dollar mansion to another unless by the way i'm so fresh no like you could argue you could argue like this house has bad memories or maybe something happened like maybe like someone cheated and they're trying to work through it. And it's like, let's do it in a new house because there's too many memories in this house, even though they've literally been married for five minutes.
Starting point is 00:35:10 I think that, you know, earlier in the week or if it was last week, like arguing that, yeah, you know, her tour being canceled and these rumors, like two things can, you know, be not true. And they can, like we can explain it away. The house being for sale, like to me is unignorable well it's not for sale yet and this could just be like a weird coincidence a glitch i one of my favorite photos went back up if it goes for sale i won't say it's a weird coincidence but still like there is a opportunity for doubt because one of my favorite things about you is like you never give up. No I don't. I go down with the ship. You will go down with this
Starting point is 00:35:49 ship. And I love that about you. But sometimes you have to know when to jump overboard. 100% and I'm saying it's not the time. I'm getting closer to the edge of the deck. But I'm not jumping ship yet. Just because some pictures were uploaded. However, add it to the pile of compelling case facts. Compelling evidence, yeah. Compelling evidence in the McKenzie file. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Add it to the pile of evidentiary support. Yeah. I will, unfortunately. So, just to keep you abreast on the rumors. And I love talking about celebrity real estate, especially as it pertains to one Jennifer Lopez, because, you know, she used to own the house that Dorit and PK. Rented.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Rented. As of last season, were they still in that house? Oh, no, they bought their own house, right? That farmhouse that looks like it's on the valley. Yeah, but like. Yeah, like if the people on the valley like made double what they make. Triple. Triple.
Starting point is 00:36:49 Yeah. Yeah. It's so like not beverly hills i think that's what a lot of houses look like now in beverly hills like we see it on sailing sunset too yeah yeah i mean like beverly hills housewives because it's modern she's younger like it's the modern look that's the marital home yeah it's just like so crazy how that is going to be like the way that we look at like sunken living rooms and carpeted everything are the way like in 30 years they're gonna look at modern open concept gray floors yeah like wood light wood floors beams yeah beams it looks nice you should get a beam in your house i feel like your house is like beamy it is beamy like just a a beam for looks yeah okay i'll call the beam guy yeah yeah 1-800 beam 1-800 got beam i actually think you can just like add decorative beams yeah joanna does it all the time i guess
Starting point is 00:37:35 but it does not feel fraudulent no it's like it's definitely ideal and authentic when you have like a load-bearing wall that needs a beam right for sure um and then you can you know dress it up and i think that's how beams got popular is like we had to put this beam in but what if we made the most of this situation and dressed it up a little bit you know put a put a scarf on it and then it became so commonplace because there's so many load-bearing situations where it was like now we're doing beams just you know for fun yeah and i would argue most beams that you see it in modern homes like aren't beaming anything up, you know? I feel like Shannon added beams.
Starting point is 00:38:08 I don't know. I can't remember. I have to ask her about her beam experience. And you know what beams literally are? If you went to camp, we had beams. It was called the rafters. We hung our towels on there. They're rafters.
Starting point is 00:38:19 We hung from the rafters and so did our towels. That's how we dried our towels because we only had laundry like once every two weeks. But now everyone would know my beams aren't load-bearing that they're false beams and once again here we are being far too authentic yeah for our like literally for our own good we're destroying our own brands for the sake of authenticity so now i can't get beams yeah or i guess i just have to move to a house that with real beams but no on chip and joe like she's always putting in beams sometimes for fun and sometimes not.
Starting point is 00:38:46 But when they put in, like, beams that are, like, load-bearing, they have to be huge. Chip and Shorty are, like, seriously always bright red in the face lifting them up. They're so heavy. Well, I wouldn't be lifting my own beams. No, no. And yours would be big, so they would be hollow.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? What number? Three. Yeah. Jake Gyllenhaal says being legally blind has been advantageous to his acting career. So Jake Gyllenhaal says he has a unique advantage. The actor opened up about how being legally blind has helped him in his acting career saying he prefers to look at the disability as advantageous. He said I've never known anything else. When I can't see in the morning before I put on my glasses, it's a place where I can be with myself. The Oscar nominee relied on
Starting point is 00:39:30 that practice during one of his pivotal scenes from the movie Southpaw. When police tell his character that, spoiler alert, his wife died, Jake performs the scene without his contacts to listen better, he said. This isn't the first time the Spider-Man star has discussed
Starting point is 00:39:45 his 20 slash 12 50 vision in an interview with the telegraph in 2017 he recalled being an easy target for bullies as a kid because of his corrected glasses i mean all i can think about is he's introduced takes his office no used to be a little kid and glasses in a twin size bed and like he really needed glasses he's never been able to see. Yeah. It's just so crazy that like because when I think of blind
Starting point is 00:40:11 Of course. I think of like you know Andrea Bocelli. Stevie Wonder. Right. Not like I put on my glasses and I can see. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:17 But that really is what like blind like is especially like legally blind but it's just really crazy that like you can be call yourself blind but like you're also like when I think of blind it's like you never see um like you can be call yourself blind but like you're all like when I think of blind it's like you never see no matter what goes on your eyes right um and once again it's just a reminder like seriously we are so blessed like you know
Starting point is 00:40:34 I we don't wear glasses we don't wear contacts like and my husband does and I see the toll it takes yeah it's crazy to think about like waking up in the morning and not being able to see until you do your glasses or your contacts. That's not something you or I have experienced. Like Olivia. Like she can like see like stuff, but not, it's blurry. Yeah. Margo too.
Starting point is 00:40:54 Yeah. Ben can see, just not like amazing. Yeah. It's a really, it's crazy to think about. And so I didn't know his vision was that bad. Me neither. And it's always been that bad. That's why he. And so I didn't know his vision was that bad. Me neither. And it's always been that bad. That's why he was
Starting point is 00:41:07 the little kid with glasses in his twin size bed. And so I guess what Jake Gyllenhaal here is saying, you know, is that he's an optimist. He sees the glass half full.
Starting point is 00:41:14 The glasses, yeah. He sees the glasses half full. And it's helped him. I mean, yeah, I guess when you can't see your other senses are heightened, isn't that what they say? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:21 I mean, talk about, you know, leaning in. Yeah. Making the most. Mm? Yeah. I mean, talk about, you know, leaning in. Yeah. Making the most. Mm hmm. I wonder. So he wears contacts then?
Starting point is 00:41:31 I assume. Remember that sub stack about Jake Gyllenhaal? That was really great. Well, allegedly about Jake Gyllenhaal. Medium. Yeah. What's medium? Like another?
Starting point is 00:41:40 Like a writing platform. Yeah. It wasn't sub stack. Oh, OK. It was like and he was in that play. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And it was totally him. Oh, okay. And he was in that play. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and it was totally him. That, 1,000%.
Starting point is 00:41:48 I actually think about that thing a lot. That was really well written, first of all. It sounded like a short story, but it was totally not nonfiction. The girl, she was this writer, and she told this story about how she interned at a theater for a summer or whatever, and there was this big A-list leading actor,
Starting point is 00:42:04 and she was working for him. And she had some really fucking crazy stories and they like started this like affair yeah i mean he was such a prick and there were a couple of clues that like made us think that it was jay jill and holly she's the word swiftly quite a lot um no but also the time and the year and the season like he was on a show and she was talking about some of the costumes and those costumes are part of that era of the show that he was doing. Yeah. And I just want to say like my heart goes out to Maggie.
Starting point is 00:42:30 Why? I feel like a lot of her career and like her public persona She's hard to like apologize. At first it was just like she's Jake Gyllenhaal's sister. And then when things went south with Jake Gyllenhaal
Starting point is 00:42:39 like then she was like out here picking up the pieces like having to explain on Watched Reapons Live. Like I feel sorry for her even though she's like you know Nepo sister yeah she's fine She's fine yeah I just
Starting point is 00:42:50 Think about her a lot I think you think about Her a lot regardless and then I also Think about her a lot you know because of her hair Because of her hair yeah it's just like it's not A style I would personally Ever choose and she's had it for Years like she's choosing It over and over it's kind of like
Starting point is 00:43:06 every day's tuesday for her regardless of what you think yeah she's making up every day and choosing violence you know yeah it's not like she got one haircut right i mean we've all been there like one bad haircut but it's like she trips it Like annually Bi-annually Try annually Yeah Are you ready For our next story? No Good
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Starting point is 00:48:12 have I heard about this yet you're not gonna guess okay go Pharrell okay and guess who's playing him you're not gonna guess you're literally it's impossible for you to guess Okay Legos So This is a stupid story Piece by piece tells This is stupid No but like Listen Piece by piece tells the story
Starting point is 00:48:31 Of Pharrell Williams' life Via Lego emanation For a unique biopic experience Emanation Emanation Pharrell Williams is bringing His life story to the big screen In a big way
Starting point is 00:48:40 But with tiny pieces Lego bricks to be exact The first trailer For the artist's unique biopic Piece by Piece dropped Thursday morning. Okay Kelly Clarkson's influence. Yep.
Starting point is 00:48:49 Giving fans a look at what to expect from the film which tells the story of his life and career through the movie magic of Lego animation. Produced by Focus Features
Starting point is 00:48:56 and helmed by Oscar winning documentarian Morgan Neville who also did the documentary 20 Feet from Stardom. Oh. This doc shows Pharrell's rise to fame told with the iconic
Starting point is 00:49:05 blasting building blocks which seemingly symbolize the boundless imagination of the celebrated performer other featured artists who will be lending their voices to the story and will have legos of themselves as well are gwen stefani kendrick lamar timbaland justin timberlake in relation to pharrell's story or they're getting their own okay oh no no not getting there okay in relation to his gwen stefani kendrick lamar timbal's story. Oh, no, no, not getting there. Okay. In relation to his. Gwen Stefani, Kendrick Lamar, Timbaland, Justin Timberlake, Jay-Z, Snoop Dogg, and Busta Rhymes. I want to say something. I feel this is really stupid.
Starting point is 00:49:32 And let me tell you why. Because I actually would love a documentary on Pharrell. I feel like Pharrell is at this crazy level of success and accomplishments. And I'm not really sure how he got there. And I feel like he's recently been doing a lot of like kid stuff like didn't he do some work on the Grinch yes and now Legos like I feel like he's really he's in all avenues and I would love like a actually um like helpful real person documentary and like him telling his story with Legos like get the bag
Starting point is 00:50:01 I'm sure Legos is paying up the ass literally Literally love that for you in every sense of the word. You would do a two-fer check. However, as the celebrity documentary sort of police. It's not a documentary. It's a biopic. Even worse. Like, seriously, I don't get it.
Starting point is 00:50:18 All's that to say, like, somebody, Netflix needs to get on a Pharrell documentary. I feel like people are going to be like, he already has one, let me say. Yeah. I'm talking big game, and it's, he already has one, let me say. Yeah. I'm talking a big game and it's like maybe I didn't even watch it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:28 No, I agree with you. I probably won't watch the Lego movie of Pharrell. No, by the way, he doesn't have a documentary. But I think my husband will. I think this is like for my husband. He loves Pharrell and he likes innovative animation like this. He does. He likes that football game.
Starting point is 00:50:44 That wasn't Legos that was toy story but still i'm sure there was a lego one too i hate this and maybe i'm just feeling like negative because i've been like telling every story that it's crap like every story you've been saying i'm like this sucks okay um well you'll like the next one i know that for sure oh that's good i know it's for sure that you're gonna like the next one so i just i just think like pharrell's story deserves to be told with a little more deference than Legos. But like he probably chose this. So are you saying you know Pharrell better than he knows himself?
Starting point is 00:51:14 Is that what you're saying? No, I think I don't know Pharrell really at all. And that's why I could use a real documentary. Understood. Well, our next story is about one of our favorite people. And he's joining his ex-wife's podcast and in case you forgot peter facinelli was married to jenny garth for 12 years i did forget that he went on her podcast and talked about their marriage in the episode is called part one so like this is a
Starting point is 00:51:36 multi-part podcast and he says his marriage to jenny garth felt arranged in their first joint arranged or arranged arranged in their first joint discussion 12 years after their divorce i had no idea like no idea that he had you know to me like he just sort of was born carlisle and then after that like i don't know i just it's hard for me to imagine that he had anything going on in his life before carlisle do you know what i mean but i guess it's like how he got the role when you hear this story it kind of tracks with what you're saying so x's jenny garth and peter facinelli are opening up like never before in the late how was it how was it really pronounced facinelli no like facinelli peter facinelli fat like we say things weird so now i can't really peter facinelli yeah i don't know um in the latest
Starting point is 00:52:28 episode of jenny's podcast i choose me with jenny garth the former spouses sit down together for the first time publicly since their 2012 split to discuss the pitfalls in their 12-year marriage it's like really crazy to have like your ex-husband on your podcast i love that right facinelli's decision to divorce and how they've handled co-parenting in the years since they discussed the decision to divorce oh and they have a kid okay the plot so he said we came together very fast very furious and very quick and i remember thinking well let's move in together and see how it goes and it just went five years went by and i thought well we should get married then we got married and had another kid it was almost like an arranged marriage in a way and things seemed well we had disagreements here and there but I think we were really young. He noted that she already had an established career
Starting point is 00:53:07 by the time he met her in his early 20s. He said that they were at very different places in their lives. He said I didn't have a sense of who I was and so I was just trying to be all these things for other people. When that fell apart it took me time to try to get in touch with me. He repeated the sentiment that it felt like they hadn't arranged marriage. He said, I loved you and we had this beautiful family from the outside, but I hadn't developed who I was. So how could you love me? I didn't know me.
Starting point is 00:53:32 He also confirmed to Jenny that he didn't feel like he had the space to figure out who he was within their marriage. He said, considering all of that, we really did last a long time, I think because of the children. She said that. She said, I think if we didn't have children, I wouldn't have stayed. Sorry, he said that. Oh my God, are you okay think because of the children she said that she said i think if we didn't have children i wouldn't have stayed sorry he said that oh my god are you okay because of the
Starting point is 00:53:48 freedom to go okay i need to figure out who i am he felt how old were they in 2012 he was in his early 20s okay yeah i feel like by the time they divorced he was probably like 30 this is like literally why you know people say like you shouldn't get married young. And this is like when people used to like when I was getting married people were like always commenting on how young I was and I thought it was so annoying. And now like I fully understand like no I shouldn't have gotten married that young. And thank God things worked out the way that they did. But it's true like you change so much in your early 20s.
Starting point is 00:54:20 Even like your late 20s. And you could like either change into a person that you your partner hates your partner could change into someone that you hate you hate or if especially at like a high level like fame if someone's like having so much success and like feeling so sure of who they are and like feels like they're coming into their own and peter fosh is kind of like this miserable loser like that can make it difficult too they must be in like a this is such a healthy conversation and they must be like so far out of it he and their kids are probably like in their 20s grown and you know this isn't going to traumatize them yeah and he is married I know with a baby and she must be like you have to be really healed to not only have this conversation but to
Starting point is 00:54:55 have it publicly yeah I like that but I don't know if saying that you shouldn't get married young like it should be a blanket statement for everyone no it shouldn't oh okay I thought you said no I just said like don't get married young no but when people used to say that to me I'd be like what the fuck do you know but honestly like that wasn't terrible advice yeah yeah it is like and I feel like who talks about that that uh JC Marie Smith she talks about that a lot too like she was always told like you're getting married so young and she was like honestly like yikes like we're so like we've been through so much and you can see how why people say that yeah but like it worked out for you guys yes and so it's okay but you're saying you could see how it wouldn't yeah and how you're honestly more likely
Starting point is 00:55:34 to grow apart yeah but I think like if you think about you and Ben have grown it's not like you've grown and he's grown it's just a coincidence that you both like who you still are like i think he's influenced the way that you've grown and you've influenced the way that he's grown so you guys are like a vine that's very intertwined and that's how it should be but i think sometimes people grow separate lives that can happen at any age though true also very true trills as the kids say so know, not just one thing for everyone. That kind of brings the episode completely full circle because that is what we were talking about
Starting point is 00:56:09 at the beginning. Yeah, different strokes for different folks. And just, you know, and that's on respecting boundaries. That is on respecting boundaries. However, if everybody has their boundaries up, then we'll never speak to each other. So sometimes you've got to let the walls down.
Starting point is 00:56:30 Kind of the message of green eggs and ham oh i read a couple of children's books yesterday i wanted to remark on okay the little engine that could crap overrated clunky not fun to read not fun to read doesn't rhyme like i like the message of course but they take a really long time to get there it's kind of like a memoir like it's so long and by the time we get to i think i can i think i can like is your kid still awake even? Do they even get to the punchline? But I did enjoy figuring out that this thing we all say, I think I can. It's kind of become a very commonplace thing. I didn't realize it came from that book. So I like that. I like learning that. I also read Kelly Breanne's novel, River Rose
Starting point is 00:57:03 and the Magical Lullaby by Kelly Clarkson now that's a fun read I also like that there's a matching song I didn't know the melody so of course I had to improvise which I was completely comfortable doing but I realized some parents and aunties aren't as talented as I am and that must be challenging for them I do wish I thought because on the cover there's a little circle that
Starting point is 00:57:19 says there's a music that comes along with it and I thought if I pushed it it would play for the next printing I think Kelly should work on getting that type of book made yeah yeah but maybe she has to go to a different manufacturer and it's just like scan the qr code and play the song and deal with there wasn't a qr code they gave a really long website which i thought was a miss mistake it was probably before qr codes qr code but i liked the book i thought i loved it it was giving babies day out like yeah she has this adventure but then she comes home because home is the best place i love the message and she still gets to go to the zoo we can still do fun things what are we teaching the kids like home is always there for
Starting point is 00:57:52 you home is the best like i loved that because as a homebody like a love of animals of course river rose and her dog joplin joplin loved the name joplin like the musical influences were just boundless kelly brianne gets the turdy stamp of approval. And I also read this like, it was kind of like a pamphlet from Wonder Woman. I didn't really like it, but I love. It was a thin book. I don't know what those books are called, but we have a couple of them.
Starting point is 00:58:13 This one was the Wonder Woman one. It was pretty crappy. Although I did love that you're teaching your boys, you know, strong, positive female influences. Like hello, auntie, mom. Like how could they not, you know, walk away from this life like with an appreciation kind of looks like Hojars she doesn't not look like Hojars for sure and then the other
Starting point is 00:58:30 one I read was about a rocket cute let's go on a rocket so those are my favorite books and we have all of them and I just oh no I'm still waiting for let's go on a bicycle but we're about to complete the collection and I have to shout out they're actually British and if you read all of them like you'll realize like oh they're drinking tea in the afternoon and they like have some words that are a little different from ours let me guess where you got it the Buckingham Palace gift shop yes because when I was shopping around the Platinum Jubilee there was a book called Let's Go on a Carriage and it was in celebration of the Platinum Jubilee so we bought that book it's a board book it rhymes it's like eight or ten pages and that was
Starting point is 00:59:06 like a year and a half ago and it was a really good book and at the back of the book they show you the other ones in the series let's go on a tractor let's go on a train and so I like ordered one or two more and then we like those were always just such a hit and then when you go to the back of the book you see all the ones that they have and then like Harry would point to one and we didn't have that one so then I would go and find that one but they're kind of hard to track down i've gotten most of them one of them one of them i had to buy like used on amazon like you'll see it oh damn oh although i will say about kelly brianne's novella um i do feel like there was like a piece of the puzzle missing because one whole page was ripped out yes one
Starting point is 00:59:44 page is ripped out and you know in. Yes, one page is ripped out. And you know, in children's book, one page is like four because I didn't like, so let's say page five got ripped. That means like the second half of page four and the first half of page six. Yeah, I thought the book actually felt shorter than it usually does. Because there's a big old page missing. Yeah. Which is really like four.
Starting point is 01:00:01 There is a page missing. I was wondering what happened because last time I read the book, I was like, I feel like the page was ripped. And then yesterday, magically, there was no rip because the page was gone. Yep. Good times. You have to read Jamie Lee Curtis's book next. I'm on it.
Starting point is 01:00:12 Where do balloons go? Where do they go? To kill turtles in the ocean? No, no, no. It's not like that. Oh, good. She doesn't take. It's not environmental.
Starting point is 01:00:19 Like a radical. No, it's more like, it's giving afterlife. Sweet. Let me know what you think. I would love to. I wish I hadn't inserted that on you. Because afterlife Sweet Let me know what you think I would love to I wish I hadn't Inserted that on you Because I would love to know
Starting point is 01:00:28 Like what you thought The message was Okay I'll look at A tabula rasa I promise Yeah I'll pick out Some good ones for you Any celebrity books That you have
Starting point is 01:00:34 I would love to sort of Do a ranking of celebrity Children's books Do you have any Jimmy Fallons They're really popular No I don't But Lauren Elizabeth
Starting point is 01:00:41 When she was on the podcast Like bashed them to filth She said they're horrible Okay I trust her Like mama, dada Whatever the fuck Yeah yeah She said so bad
Starting point is 01:00:50 Wow I trust her too 100% Yeah Okay well On to the next On to the next Thank you guys so much
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