The Toast - Heroes Need Heroes: Thursday, March 12th, 2026

Episode Date: March 12, 2026

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It's Jackson, Claude and every show the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off, swirly. It's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy Thursday. Yay. Thursday. Yeah.

Yeah. Well earned. Well earned Thursday. Feels good. Almost better than a Friday because you know it's all ahead of you. It's all right here. I did something so crazy that I had. haven't told you about that I was like waiting to actually share.

I wanted to get a genuine reaction from you. Okay. I did something crazy last night. Fack. Crazyer. Literally crazier. I started scandal. Ooh.

I know. Why? Because, you know, I feel like there's actually a lot of shows as a pop culture, like professional. Like, I have a couple of blind spots. And some of them I'm not willing to unblind, like, Grey's Anatomy. It's never happening. Our sister Margo loves scandal so much.

A lot of like the sounds have been going viral. on TikTok. So like, I feel like the culture was sort of swaying me. Ben wasn't home and I, like, needed to do something. There's nothing on on Wednesdays for me. So I started scandal. I have so many thoughts and I didn't even finish the first episode. Like, first of all, and I feel like I honestly, I've seen one episode. I think I've seen them all. Like, I get it. You know, push and pull with her and bits. And then they solve a mystery. I feel like I've seen the show. I have seen the entire thing as of last night. And I'm sure we get to know like more members of her team. But she's like, Slay, Olivia, Olivia always

slays. Like, it's very cool. Corny. Yeah. So you're not going to watch more? I don't know. Please don't. Like, honestly, I'm not interested in this journey. I am pulled to, like, of course, the romance.

And I know, and honestly, something that was a huge motivator. Have you ever seen the clip of them, like, doing an Instagram live during COVID? And she asks him, like, what was your, like, what's your favorite season? And he goes, probably fall. Yeah. And then they're, like, laughing so hard. That actually influenced me a lot. Something that happened six years ago.

Inclosed you to watch the show six years later. that wasn't even in the show. I'm just really doing my job at this point, like as a pop culture professional. Like, I feel like it's kind of crazy that we've never seen scandal. I think of all the things that people are like begging us to watch,

maybe start with like the new love is blind. Oh, really? I've also heard, even though Zach and I started it. And I start every season being like, this is shite. These people are shite. This is boring. And so I barely watch.

I couldn't tell you one person's name. I've heard it's amazing. I've heard it's amazing. I feel like it's the same hype for like when we watch random seasons. Like yeah, crazy things happen and it's good, but like it's never going to be what it was. And I saw somebody on TikTok say like they need to stop making love is blind season. Like the experiment has failed.

Love is not blind. No, no. And it's like every season it's the same trope. There's always a guy who like gets matched with a girl who's not his type and we have to like circle the drain where he like breaks up with her pretending that he doesn't just think she's fat. You know? Like it's just it's not good. Like once you've seen one, you've seen them all. So everyone being like this season.

No, they're all the same. There's nothing better like when you're in it. But the amount of work you have to put in to get. to a place of like euphoria. It's really six hours. And I don't have that to like really spend six hours doing something I don't like in service of maybe having an enjoyable experience for three hours. Yeah.

I also when I was on Netflix watching Skindle, I almost started watching Age of Attraction, which is the new age gap show. Like that would have been more time. I haven't seen people like talking about it yet. So I don't know if it's making an impact. And I will watch if like people, it becomes like culties. I, my issue with that show is like they. act like you can't see someone's age.

And also, I want to know, like, do we know the ages or do we find out at the end, you know? Interesting. I don't know. Let me know. Like, I would be curious. I would be curious how it is, but like, you can pretty much gauge someone's age based on looking at them. Like, just like context clues how they talk.

Oh. Wrinkles. Yeah. Like, I couldn't tell you the exact number, but I could give you a five to 10 year range. Right. Do they use TikTok language being like, not us going on a date? How do they look? No, of course.

But some people can, like, look really. young or look really old for their age. I do think like maybe they cast people who are, who don't look their age, who off you skate like the traditional, but based on like clothing and how they talk, like there are context. Because you can tell when you're talking to somebody who's much younger than you. Yeah. Life experience. Did they go to college yet? Like, you know. It seems like a bit of a flawed premise, but I'm willing to try if people say that it's good. I watched my favorite show last night, Southern Charms, season finale. I watched clips of the three boys on Watcher happens lot.

They went on Watcher Happens. I was wondering who was going to be on last night. Do you know that the last time they all went on together? They made that very, very famous TikTok. I say a little prep where there being Quinn, Santana, and Britney from Glee. Oh my God, that came up on my TikTok because it was like the last time they were all on together. I was cracking up Craig in those pants. I genuinely love the three of them. I need them to stop fighting.

Like Craig and Austin need to stop. And I do feel like Craig is a little more open-minded where he's like, this is just the flow of Austin and I's relationship. Like we sort of need to reset. And Austin's like, I hate him. He's the worst. He's, like, so obsessed with hating Craig. And they need to stop.

Like, they're meant to be friends. Were they friends on Watch What Happens Live last night? Yeah, friendly. Like, you know, it's hard. Like, I'm sick of them not going along. It doesn't work for me. You can't, like, be on Watch Happens Live with your enemies. You know, you're all drinking.

It's, like, fun and light. And they're all dressed up out in the city. I'm sure they went out afterwards. And then Andy had said that he had a dinner with, like, John Mayer and the three of them. Which is really crazy. And it's like, that's your friend, Austin and Craig. Like, if you're having dinner with Andy and John Mayer, like, just be friends. It's better for your lives to be friends.

And I feel like Andy, like, going out to dinner with Bravo Lebrides. It's kind of a big deal. And then let alone, like, introducing them to John Mayer is such a big deal because he's always maintained this level of like. By the way, John Mayer is Shep. By the way. Shepp of the South. Are we going to talk about Liam McSweeney?

No. You know her lawsuit against Andy is like actually, like, it's going well for her. Yeah. Andy tried to get it thrown out. And I think that, like, if she has some sort of win, like, it might be like a big deal for Andy. It's going to be like a public trial. So we'll get the play-by-playing. He had tried to get it. He had tried to get it thrown out. He had tried to get it like a million things.

And the judge was like, no. So it's going to trial is the news. Yeah. Leah released his statement, like very excited. Yeah. So I'm sure we'll hear a lot about it in the next few weeks and months. Oh, all is that to say. Like, Andy so favors the men Bravo Leopardy's.

Like taking them out to dinner with John Mayer. Like he would never take Dury to dinner with John Mayer, you know? Never. He would never take like three like eligible women who would love to meet John Mayer. And Southern Charm. Like Housewives is like a very high tier in Andy's universe. But like Southern Charm is considered, I think, one of like the younger shows.

Like he would never take Madison LaCroy. No. I just want to say, having a baby at the exact same time as Madison LaCoy is like one of the worst things that ever happened to me. Because she's like us where she's kind of weight obsessed, but in a positive way. Like she's always trying to like, she's actually actively like getting to her go. So she was talking, she was talking like a couple of months ago. She's only like seven pounds away.

I'm like, oh my God, I hate this woman. And then yesterday she was talking about how like somebody called her Kelly Osborne and how it's like the biggest compliment she's ever gotten like eight months postpartum. And I was like, I need to unfollow you. Like I really need to unfollow. No, I love her last night in the season finale. She had her baby and she brought Teddy home. I saw the clip on Tickok.

And she was in Niku for 10 weeks. It was like extra sweet. And, you know, her older son, Hudson, I forget how old he is. But he's like a little boy. A teenager. Not a preteen. He's a preteen. And he's holding Teddy and her whole family's there.

And like it was so serious. Like I, I want to do it all again. So I actually saw that clip also. My ovaries are tingling. I saw the clip and I also got emotional at like, because I saw that Hudson, like she came home and Hudson was at home. And I was like, oh, I wonder who he's staying with. It was like her mom and her sister.

And it was like, my takeaway. was like obviously it's great that she had a baby but like family's everything you know what I mean like she probably had to be in the niku for like two weeks who's gonna stay at home and watch her son her first love and it's like your mom and your sister yeah that's what I was saying hugs and sad's also in the picture so like she has flexibility there I'm sure but it was just like so beautiful she's so happy to be a mom and she is like so funny because she obviously like got pregnant I don't want to say they're big in her pregnancy that's what she said but like she's just pregnant she was like so beautiful the whole season the looks were saying and I remember following her on social media and like she gave herself grace

until she didn't. And then at the reunion next week in the preview, she's like, I'm back at my biting weight. I have to tell her. Like, I really do. No, but it's an inspiration. Especially for someone who like actually like, you know, put on the weight and then took it off.

Some people like don't put on a lot of weight. And I like following those people too because I'm like, well, that's magical. No, it gives hope that like maybe it could happen to us. Yeah, it's just like a fun, aspiration. Yeah. But no, someone who like put on the weight and then took it off,

did the work. Like that's motivational. I need to find some influencers who put on the weight and didn't lose it. Like, just so I can feel less alone. Because I know what happens to, like, normal people all the time. I would say it's the more common outcome. Yeah, I need to talk to those people. But maybe you are that influencer for someone.

Okay, great, but like even heroes need heroes, you know? I need someone to look up to. And you are losing weight. So, like, you've left your people in the test. I am. But, like, I'm also, like, really struggling, like, with finding my right dose. I'm in the process of switching. I haven't actually even switched yet because, like, it's just like, a whole thing.

So like I'm kind of gaining weight It's just like it's not easy Gaining weight as you do it Well actually sorry I haven't even weighed myself I just have a feeling I had like 1,100 pretzel rods Before bed last night

I haven't weighed myself in weeks But the jeans that I wear Silfit So like that's good Works for me Yeah until I'm off the clock You know Another couple weeks

Ben got back from New York Very late last night What's it called? What's that TikTok sound? Care to be sick of me? No like It's over free bitches No

And it's not I just give you two really good options No no no And it's not the one like she's back, but it's game time. What's that one? Like Nikki Minaj. It's game time, bitches. I love it.

I'm not familiar, but it's game tunes, bitches. It is game tunes. Ben returned back from New York last night with a camera roll full of vlog content. I'm going to try and get it up today. He had kind of a world win day in NYC with our QLab. I'm wearing like so QLab today. And I've been drinking these sprits. We should have done non alcohol a really long time ago.

because not me with my can. I'm so like Jeffrey Starr with my straw and my red bowl, you know. The Spritz X Kiel's hydration drink. Yeah, it's electrolytes, it's mixed berries, it's 10 calories, and it's available

at Sprits Society.com while it supplies last. And when you buy it, like you actually get the PR box. You don't just get like a box of Sprite. You get the PR box, which is behind Jackie right now. Inside of it is four cans and the keels ultra-hydrating facial cream. Love. What else do you need?

Hydration from the inside out? On the inside and the outside. It was a very exciting day yesterday for the Spritz family, Spritz-Skeels. For the Spritz family, aka our family. Yeah. Well, no, we have a lot of, like, partners and, you know, we bring in a lot of, like, community.

We're on the Inc 500 female founders list. Yeah. It was a big week for Sprits. Speaking of female founders, please tell me we're talking about Megan. Oh, okay. That won't bring it up now. No, no, no. Well, now we kind of have to get into it. But it was a big week for Spritz between the founders being on the Inc 500 list and Keels. Everyone's sort of like talking about Sprits.

And they're actually like this was like a really fun collab. Like it's a limited edition and won't be here forever. It's not being sold at Target by the way. A lot of people ask me that. It's just online. So get it before they sell out. But this isn't actually like our big reveal. Like our big, our big, not collab, sorry.

Our big launch. is I don't actually know what it is. It's in a couple of weeks and it will reshape everything. It's going to change everything. Oh, I also, I had an idea for Spritz that I need to tell that. He's going to be so excited. I know, but I knew he was like really busy yesterday. So I just wanted to like get him at a good time.

He's going to be in your house today. Do you know that? Okay, so that will be a good time to tell him my, it's not a business idea. It's like an idea for Spritz. Like a product idea? A product idea. He's going to freak that you have an idea. He likes it.

He's always like wanting us to have ideas and we're just like we don't have ideas. When he like sits me down and is like, give me an idea. I'm not an idea on the spot kind of gal. No, me neither. But, you know, after drinking my pargy beverage yesterday of Spirt's at Steel's, I had a thought. You have to share it with him. Okay. I'll tell you after the show.

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Our first story, as we were just discussing, so let's bump it to the top, is Megan Markle, being slammed for sky high price of luxury retreat in Australia. So Megan Markle is set to be the VIP guest to headline a women's retreat in Australia for the podcast, her best life. Podcast hosts Jackie O. Henderson. It's her retreat. You're fucking kidding. Of Kyle and Jackieo, former Kyle and Jacko, Jackie O'Henerson, not me, you guys.

And Gemma O'Neill have recruited Megan to lead the event, which will focus on, quote, powerful conversations, relax. laughter and unforgettable experiences. It sounds like Cam Toast. Attendees can become a part of the VIP experience for roughly $2,288, or they can lock down early bird tickets for $1,930. But that doesn't get you like the second row seating with Megan and the group photo with Megan. Yes.

The highest tier. Gemma revealed she'd be interviewing Megan as part of the event. According to her, Megan became involved in the event as a favor to a mutual friend, but noted that she really loves what our community is about. The biggest moment of the weekend, a gala dinner, was billed as an in-prisoned person conversation with Megan, VIP guests will be allowed to partake in a group photo with the Duchess of Sussex and will also receive a goodie bag plus access to an Ocean View hotel room.

One royal expert said the event offers a rare chance to see a more personal side of the Duchess. Okay. The first person I thought of when I heard this was Taylor Shrekker. Do you know that Taylor Shrekker was fired from Sirius XM for like putting on an event like this, like where it's like a girls get away and it's like kind of expensive but all in like you're kind of getting a good price for the hotel or whatever. Oh my God, I was cracking up.

But actually, you meant to call her yesterday to talk to her about it. Obviously, this is an extremely low brow thing. Like, this is insane. Yeah. I don't really know what to say besides that. You know, that kind of, like, is all there is to say. I'm trying to understand the structure of it because at first, like, it seemed like she's selling tickets to come and meet her. And it's like her business.

Which is misleading. Which is misleading. But I don't know if that's actually worse than what it is. Other people are making money off of her taking. Well, do you think she's not being paid? She's getting paid, but like she needed that lump sum. And these people can like go out and be like, hey, take a picture with Megan. So they're going to Australia.

Like literally the furthest possible place you could go from the States. I think to like sort of, I can't use this word. I'm using this word twice. But like to sort of obfuscate like the criticism that's coming. Like she can't do anything now in America. Like people are the way they were obsessed with them. Like now it's really turning out. Do you think they're going to become like Australian superstars?

I think they think if they go to Australia, maybe not superstates. but they could like, you know, get some good press, make a little bit of money and, like, out of the, you know, site of American media and American critics, but, like, we're following. Like, we know. I'm sure she thought this would event with, like, it's a random women's luncheon in Australia. Yeah, I don't think she thought anyone would care about the random women's weekend. And so she can make this, like, you know, 100 grand, whatever they're going to pay her, pocket that change and make the trip a little bit more worthwhile, you know?

So you think they're just like, you know, getting into a new market in Australia? No, no, no, not new market. I don't think they care about, like, becoming famous in Australia. I think they, like, need to do stuff, need to make money, and they really can't do it in America right now. They've also, like, really tapped out in the American market. Like, they've gotten money from everyone. Yeah. The well sort of dried up.

Or maybe, because they are, like, these ex-royals that they do, like, she still calls herself the Duchess. You know how part of being a royals, like, you go on royal tours. Like, you go to the different parts of the Commonwealth. Australia is the Commonwealth, right? So maybe this is, like, their version of a mini tour, but, like, they can't really get a lot of good. gigs. So they're getting paid. Like they're putting together their own tour.

Yeah. And it sucks because like the opportunities where the real royals actually go there. Like they can't do the royal stops. And the royal tour. They have to speak at the women's luncheon. They don't get the royals don't get paid to go on tour. They probably pay for it. Well, but it generates like a lot of revenue for the palace and stuff.

It's good. It's all good way. So they're doing their own tour, but they're trying to get paid. They're like going on tour. Yeah. And I think that the opportunities to do a tour in a country that actually has royal tour is like there aren't a lot. Interesting.

Just a guess. I mean, I actually don't know. I don't know either, but I do think it's true. Like the wells have dried up here. There's really not much more money for them in America. Yeah. Between the corporations and consumers. Like, we've given all we can.

I think they also have like a little bit tapped out on Canada because they sort of used Canada. If I were Canada, I would feel used by the Sussexes. It's that, but it's also the fact that they're, Canada's really close. Like, we share a lot of media. Like when things happen in Canada, Canada, people, all the Canadians know what's going on in America. They're kind of obsessed with us. Like it's a shared culture, don't you feel?

Yes. Or the America. This is, they went to the farthest place they could think of. And I don't think that that, I think that that's intentional. Yeah. Yeah. Thinking they could get away with whatever and like American media wouldn't pay attention. They were not expecting this poster to have gone so viral on the internet. Once that poster hit the internet, the entire trip is pointless. Yeah. I, I feel bad in the sense that like what they were trying to do backfired. You know, that's just like, I feel bad for someone who's planned backfired. I think it's crazy to spend upwards of $3,000 for a group photo.

Who cares? I have a group photo with Leonardo DiCaprio. That's true. But it would be like a large group photo. Yeah, it's like everyone who bought that tier. Yeah. Like that sucks. It looks like a class photo more.

But I guess if it's all like business women and their surrounding, it's like the other people there like, you know, it's about the other people in the photo too. You know, it's like we just look like a bunch of women who. who are here by our own accord, not that we paid for it. What do you think the royals should do? Oh, I think they're cackling. No, I'm sorry. I don't know why I said the royals. I meant Megan and Harry.

Like, what is the right next step? Because they do want privacy, but they do need to earn a living. I don't think that they have enough money. I think all of this, everything is motivated by money. I think they live a very, you know, high. But I also think like Megan likes going to go to stuff where people like are going to love her. And if people are paying to see her, like that's a very comfortable in. environment for her. And that's a fun weekend for Megan. Yeah. Like, hey everybody. How's everybody doing? But I don't

think she's going to have fun. I think this is a business trip. No, but it feels good. As opposed to walking into rooms and going to award ceremonies and events where it's like, what are people, how do people feel about her? What are they saying about her? Like, I think this is actually like a very pleasant experience for her. But I mean more so like zoomed out. Like what should their next, like nothing they do now is to satiate quite literally anyone. But they do need to work. They don't have enough money. I don't even know if they could, but like, should they return to the royal family? I don't even know if that's an option. But Eugenie and Beatrice, like, are...

Well, I guess we need members. We need working members. But we did even when they left. And Prince Andrew was already immersed in scandal when they left. And they left it, like, when we needed them. No, we, I'm not a part of this family. Right. When they needed them.

And then, like, Charles got sick. Kate got sick. And they weren't there. Lizzie passed away. Of course. And now they're cobbling together. they're back. And so now you're going to come back.

I know. And they finally have bounced back from the bad PR of Megan and Harry and everything that they said about them. Oh my God. I would never take them back. No, of course. Just because that's us as human beings. But there's like an institution.

I think they're bad for the institution. A firm. You're bad for the institution. And so they could leave again. I think they are bad for the institution. They would come back and they would leave again. It's so settled now. Like the best thing is for it to not.

Yeah. I mean, I think that if money is an issue, which I can't imagine like it's such an issue. Like he has like an inheritance. Yeah, no, I don't think it's dire. And they got like $20 million here and $20 million there. So they got like... But then they like bought a $20 million house.

And like they could live like a little smaller if they needed to. Definitely. Like a little bit smaller. Um, and I think like going back to acting for her like isn't the worst idea. It's kind of a no brainer because people don't seem to like her. But the thing about acting is that you pretend to be someone else. And people liked her as an actress. Yeah.

They really did. They loved Rachel. What sort of project though? Like it's, she's, she's so. So recognized. She's almost like too famous to act. It would have to be like something really incredible, like a really great script. I'm telling you, she's about to release original music.

Like that's like we're scraping. No, she's about to be on Real Housewives. Yeah. Honestly, even Real Housewives don't do these types of events. Like these girls weekend getaways where you pay $6,000. Yeah. No, it's really crazy that you could have every opportunity and fumble it. And fail.

Yeah. And they have like a lot of powerful friends. Like, why won't someone. put, like, put her in a movie. Like, Bezos. Tyler Perry. Yes. I forgot that he, um, housed them.

Yeah. But also are they, were they at the Bezos wedding? Because there are a couple of like social blind spots from. Like, why aren't they tight with the Obamas? Why aren't they tight with Chris Jenner? They were at the party. They were at the birthday party. Who was?

Megan and Harry. Remember the pictures? Oh, yeah, but I don't think that means they're close. I think now the Kardashians probably hate them. But they got invited to the party. Yeah, yeah, fine, fine. But he hates them. We know that. Yes. Why aren't they friends with the Bezos is?

Like there are a couple of like things that make me very suspicious of them socially. Like I do think they've moved to Montecito, that whole fabulous crew. Ellen. They sort of like blown through friends and business. They must be like scary. Yeah. It's really crazy. Like imagine having like a Netflix show and Netflix wants to give you a line of product and like all you have to do is like decent job.

The endearing. Yeah. You get this whole house with its own farm and all your famous friends and Mindy Kaling and famous chefs are coming to teach you and like everyone has a show and get and like can keep it going someone in this lifetime that I actually trust implicitly is Mindy Kaling I would love to know because they had that awkward moment being like it's so funny that you call me Megan Marco I would people made so much of that moment I don't know if you watch it like Mindy was like shook like I would love to know what Mindy thinks you know behind closed doors of Megan like does she still hang with Mindy I don't

think they ever really hung you know I think she got the opportunity maybe they had met a couple of times And of course you take that opportunity. But I could see Mindy like really not liking her. Yeah, I think they really need to lay low and do the thing they said they were going to do. Yeah. Which is the privacy. The privacy. But no, spend a couple Gs to come and take pictures with me.

That's privacy. That's, it's just like it's so lowbrow. No, it's really. It's insane. Like everything they said was a lie. Everything. Yeah. Yeah.

Because they had enough money to not have to ever do stuff like. If they lived a very small private life. Not a very small. His inherent. Yeah, sorry. No, not very small. $20 million. Not like not living in, first of all,

the most expensive neighborhood in the country. They live in Montecito. People are giving them houses. Right. Tyler Perry litter gave them a house. Not like you don't need, if you're not like a public figure, you don't need stylists, you don't need glam,

you don't need publicists, you don't need all these things. Like you can really, she probably still need it like a publicist. But you know what I mean. Yeah. No, they, a very small life. They have like.

Means him from his mom. Yeah. Yeah. And then her from like a successful. acting career. Yeah. And if they had like just made themselves a little more scarce, you know, it wouldn't be three grand for a meet and greed. It would be like 10. 50. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Yeah. Alex Warren's on call her daddy talking about the Grammy's malfunction. Oh my gosh. Alex Warren. Like my heart. Your boyfriend. He's, I wouldn't

call my boyfriend because I don't feel like I have a crush on him. Like I look at him like a son. Your brother. A son. He's like a son to me. So beautiful. Also, you know what? I discovered a new artist. who I think is like very much in the zeitgeist and Z. Z. No, not somber. Even though I like that song. Me too. No, Siena Spiro. Yes. And I like blame all of you, bitches and you and Margo. Like why didn't anyone tell me?

I had to find her on my own. I didn't know that you needed to be told about like literally the biggest song in the world. No, no one. I know. Nothing could matter. So good. So good. So I saw a video of her. like just singing on my Instagram. So I now in my car, like I went to Santa Spiro

and I listened to a bunch of songs. And I was like, you fucking bitches didn't tell me. She's amazing. We didn't realize. And I think I speak for Margo as well. Like, we didn't realize like how. I needed an invitation. How little you knew.

I needed an invitation because it's not just that one song. She's very like Gen Z. Amy Winehouse. Adele. And that's really seems to be a theme. Like Olivia Dean and Ray and like this seems to be like a new genre. It's kind of, it's not a new genre. No, no.

Like mostly British. It seems to be, it's always been a genre. That is really popular right now. And I'm like, I love this. And a lot of it's coming out of the UK. You gotta go to the UK.

Like you would thrive. There's so many things. The palace, of course. Yeah. History. You know, that's really my concentration. Yeah, of course. It's English history.

Downton. Downton. I'd like to see Downton. I feel like maybe it would like be a crusty and old. I actually follow Downton. The castle. Yeah. Because it's like a working castle.

Yeah. And I will say, the magic is gone. Yeah. Oh, speaking of Julian Fellows, I sent you this yesterday. Gilded Age is casting for a newborn baby. Yeah, so people are like guessing in their comments that it's Gloria's. Oh, like the daughters, like got married and having a baby. Oh, I was just like, if you want your baby on Gilded Age.

It's insane. They're casting a newborn to five-month-old. Like, I can't. Like, that's insane. You should do it. Do it. You can be like those people from the valley, Danny and Nia. $300 a day.

It was eight hours a day. It was eight. For a baby for $350. That's insane. Seriously, at that point. Do you think maybe it was $350 an hour? No. It didn't say that.

Yes, it's at 350 slash eight hours. Bring your baby to be tortured. Don't do it, guys. Oh my God, don't do it. But like if you really want your baby to be on the Gilded Age, I guess like here's your chance. Like, of all the places that your baby could be, it's kind of an amazing place. No, like, it was kind of an incredible thing to see, like, you can have your baby be on the guilded age.

Well, that's what I learned from Danny and Neck. from the Valley that they they they're twins are the twins on young Sheldon yeah and because they're in the business like Danny has been an actor his entire life like it's less odd to me like he knows the sets he knows the schedule like you know let's go baby like yeah but like I don't know it's really crazy but when I see like really little babies on TV I'm always thinking like who the fuck would do that and then I met two people on the valley yeah who do it I think it's so Crazy. As if they're not busy enough. In the age of like CGI and AI, I really feel like it's eliminated the need for baby actors. But then they get clowned on. Like, remember an American sniper? He was holding a doll.

And that's why it's one of my favorite movies, because they didn't abuse a child just for a scene. And when you think about like birthing scenes and there's like babies covered, do they like cover newborn babies in like paint? I don't know. When you think about it, it's really dark. And I just feel like I would rather watch a movie that has like some of the. shittiest AI baby versus like the cutest real life baby like leave the babies alone actually. Yeah. Where are they getting these babies? Like who's doing that? And what new mama's

like subjecting herself to a day on set? It's not enough. And it should be the most overpaying job. The highest paid person on set. Let me see. Hold on. What's 350 divided by eight? Divided by eight or times eight? Divided by eight. It's $44 an hour. Like I'm sorry, that's not enough. Can you do it by times eight to see if maybe it's for eight hours? If it was 300

$50 an hour. That would be almost $3,000, but I'm letting you know, I'll pull up the poster right now. It was not. I could, like, see people like doing that for $3,000. That seems... Okay, if you have twins, you get $500 for eight hours. It's literally dollar sign 50-0-0-8HRS. If you have one baby, it's $350. So you're getting like shafted if you have twins because you're not even getting double. Yeah, it's a discount. But I guess each baby gets tortured half the time. It's a discount. Or unless they needed twins for the scene. They're casting for twins and single babies. Yeah.

To portray newborn. Oh my God. That's insane. Really, really crazy. I'm going to start a charity where, like, if you're thinking about doing this, like I'll just give you through $350. Like, it's really not. It's not worth it.

I really have to believe in my heart that it's the three grand because that, like. It's not. I just, I'm just telling you it's not like I just read the poster. No, but I think we're misunderstanding. Can you read the comments? So funny, I went to the comments, like, looking for people enraged. It was just like tagging their friends. Oh, no, but somebody commented, thank you.

This is obviously a new comment. That rate is so low for babies. And eight hours, baby under six months are only allowed to be on set for two hours and work 20 minutes. Oh, I didn't know that. I guess that's like the SAG rule. Yeah. Yeah, they're paying even less for twins. Absurd.

My baby is a legitimate professional newborn actress. Her rate usually starts at $1,200 for two hours gross, minus agent fees. It's sad when production companies try to hire talent direct and unobody. underbid their worth to save money. I don't understand how a woman who has a two-month-old already has all of this in place. Like, not only is her baby two months. Now I'm on the page of the woman.

But she's two months postpartum. Now I'm on the page of the woman. And she's ratita with the agents. This is my baby's rape. Now I'm on the page of a woman, the woman who says she has a professional acting newborn. The newborn also has an Instagram page, but it's private.

It just says, like, model an actress. model an actress and the baby was born 1226 so that's a three month old baby what and so did she decide that her baby was going to be an actress before the baby was born or she met the baby I was like you got she had her on the show like I don't I don't have these answers I'm sorry like I don't want to be really judgmental I know judging I'm like letting you know we're not like we are we sound judgmental like no but I think I think I can own that yeah I think I'm going to own that one yeah agreed that's really crazy. Yeah. Anyways, Alex Warren is opening up about his tech malfunction at the

Oh, right. Sorry, he's like a son to you. He was like a son to me and then I just wanted to let everyone know like, I've discovered Santa Spiro. Like no thing to any of you. And I'm really like having a renaissance with the music of this generation like my son Alex Warren. Right. So he was on call her daddy and he talked about the Grammys, which we all saw there was sound malfunctions. He looked like he was going to cry and he's explaining what happened and like how bad it was. And like seriously how horrified he was. So he said, I've never talked about this. It was horrifying.

Like who says I've never talked about it? It happened a week ago. I thought the same thing. Like what opportunities have you like turned down? Seriously, like stop. Don't clown on my phone. Sorry, sorry. No, I love your son.

He's a great man. And he obviously gets his singing abilities from his auntie. He said we rehearsed it all week. He said that everything went perfect while practicing. And to this day, I don't know exactly what happened. He explained that very shortly before his turn in the best new artist's performance medley, something happened in everything. something happened and everything cut out in his in-ear devices.

They're like 30 seconds and I said, I can't hear anything. I can't hear myself. And the guys, like it's live TV, 25 seconds. And I go, guys, something's wrong. Something that's blasted into the left ear and right ear I hear nothing. And I go, guys, I can't hear. The technical difficulties persisted, which he accepted where it just meant to happen. Crew members tried fixing the issue by changing the volume, but it didn't work.

He said, I start singing and all I'm hearing is what's from the other room, like a crowd mic is on or something. Once I start getting into the hallway, there's this hallway and the performance. I get the left ear blasting again, and so it's just the left ear. He then said that the audio and his ears was mono rather than stereo and therefore difficult to hear. There's no mix to it, so all I'm hearing is my voice super loud. I get down to the steps and then immediately I start hearing echoing on the right ear. So I take it out, and then that made it worse, stupidly. He said when he reached the stage, his in-ear devices started working correctly again.

When we rehearsed it, they weren't expecting 20,000 phones to be on and everyone was filming. And so the RF cut it out. And then once I got to the stage, because there's two fins, I would assume, once we got to the stage I got it back. I don't understand that. I don't know. He had 30 seconds to go and he told them what was wrong. And like it sounds like no one was taking him seriously.

Yeah, maybe. So I guess something, he was trying to say that like all the phones in the arena like blocked the signal. They were on the whole time and they worked for everybody else. But he was also starting his performance in a hallway where, you know, if it's like made of concrete, it's harder to get a signal. But he practiced in a hallway.

But that he didn't practice in the hallway with the 20,000 phones. But then it came back. He also said. He's being hella gracious. I would be fucking pissed. He also said that he has a purified. And then he like, I get up on that thing. And so he didn't love that.

But by then it was working. And then he just wanted to cry, but he didn't want to cry on live TV. And I think he handled it well because, like, we knew who was disappointed. I'm glad that, like, we knew that. But I'm glad that he didn't completely break down. He also couldn't have stopped singing. Like, right. And been like, this doesn't work.

I mean, I kind of would have done that. I know you would have emotionally, but it would be so unprofessional. Yeah, yeah. It's better to have a bad performance and to be like. No performance. Yeah. Yeah. He handled it really as best as he could.

so, so sad. I'm glad he's like finally talking about this. You know, I feel like so, like, I just, I've been like dying here from it. Why, he posted a TikTok the next day. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Oh, I'm like. Because he's finally talking.

You're so out of the way. No, I know. But also, like, I've never talked about this before. Yeah, because it happened last week. Excuse me. Sorry, I know that's your son. I would never disrespect. Like, stop.

He's opening up. He's sharing. And I feel really bad for him. But like, he'll be okay, you know? Mm-hmm. Then he obviously didn't win best new artists. and he was bummed about it, but we know that it's a curse. So yeah, I would actually be happy to win.

I'm worried for Olivia Dean. I know. Even though she's crushing it, do you know her new song? It's a Q-Lab with Sam Fender called Rain Me In. No, I didn't know. Okay, I think you'd like it. So this is me telling you. And I also blame Spotify.

Our partners at Spotify because my release radar, I don't feel, is doing like the most amazing job keeping me abreast. Got it. Okay, so if you want to jot this down, it's called Rain Me In. Let me, you know, I'll play on my phone so when I get in my car, it starts playing. That's a nice fee. It's going viral on the talk right now. Rain, like the, like.

R-E-I-N. Oh, interesting, because I would have thought it was like raindrops. No, like to rain someone in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. R-E-I-N, sorry. R-E-I-G-N. There's a lot of ways to spell rain. Oh, I said.

Okay. I like Sam Fender, too. Yeah, I know. That's like my elk of music. You're British. I'm British. I am British. Maybe I'm British.

I'm Latina. Like, remember how, like, we. said like in a past life. Yes. You're like King Henry's little brother. Yeah. And you're Queen Anne, whatever her name was. I'm King Henry's little sister.

Literally. I don't get it. You don't remember like, I don't know how. No, I remember like vaguely this conversation. Like from like eight years ago that we said that in a past life, you're King Henry's little brother. I'm like, why did we say that? I don't know, but it feels right.

Okay. And if I'm British. and I'm your sister. That means I'm King Henry's little sister. I'm more so like, don't understand why it's so funny. Do you know what I mean? Like, usually we're cracking up together.

Like, I don't get it. Sound up in the comments. Is that funny? Yeah. Oh, we always had the best time. Oh. British. I forgot I'm like doing stuff.

Oh, you want to do the ads? We're only just in the second story. Oh. Actually, the third story is like really light and really funny. so I'll just get to it. Yeah. Carlos Sophia Gascon is trolling Timothy Shalame. Throwback to Carlos Sophia Gascon.

There was a time, and this is what's so crazy, like sort of the key asylum kind of in caps. It's crazy how there's like a pyramid where we are talking about somebody every single day. And I swear to God, if you didn't bring this up, I never would have heard that name ever again. No, I know. And also, but that was also by design because she was canceled.

Yeah, I don't know if you guys remember. Carlos Sophia Gascon was kind of a trailblazer. She was a actress. The jar of Amelia Perez. In Amelia Perez, yes. She's trans. And so, like, she was sort of like... In the movies about trans surgery.

She was like an eight girl. Penis to vagina. Vigina. It's about a trans drug lord, right? Yeah. But not even drug lord. Like, a cartel leader. That then is trans.

Who takes off his glasses and realizes this is transom. Like, it's the craziest fucking movie ever. Like, literally the craziest movie I've ever seen. It's a musical too. It's a musical. And they literally sing about vagina to penis. bitinist you vagina. I'm not making that up.

That's an actual song. And they literally sing labiaplasty in the song. Yeah. The song is called, if you want to listen to it, it sounds Spotify called it's called Viginaplasty. It's a literal train. Oh, I think it's like happens.

It's all in Spanish. Celina Gomez is it. That's the other part. And Carlo Sophia. That's good. And Zoe Saldano, like won everything. Yeah. Yeah.

And during the award season when she was like seriously the it girl of Hollywood. The bell of the ball. They found her old tweets. It's seriously just like a tale as old as old as time. And then she was never to be seen again. Yeah.

But now I guess she's popping up, literally everyone coming out of the woodwork to pencil Timothy Shalry. And the old tweets like came up before the Oscars. So like she was still at the Oscars, but like, you know, totally hidden. Oh yeah. And she was like pretending that those tweets didn't exist. Yeah. It was just over for her before it even started.

And so she is finding a parallel in what Timothy's going through right now. And she posted a meme saying, like her and Timothy's. on the phone. I guess that was like a funny meme. Like he's calling her for advice. Oh, funny. And she said, oh la Carla. Do you think they're going to make me pass the red carpet at the Oscars? Laughing emojis. Because I guess that's what happened to her. And then she said, are you a trans woman? Then don't worry about it, Tim. Even though I don't think that's what happened here. I don't think they kicked her off the red carpet because she was trans. Or that like she got a harsh your punishment because she was trans. No, because she really was like the bell of the ball.

like very hard for like them to be like, wait, silo her. Yeah. Which is more offensive. I feel like. And oh, she said, besides, I love ballet slippers and I've seen the phantom of the opera 10 times. Not sure if that counts for anything.

Best of luck with the awards. So she's like. So sweet, honestly. Going salt. No, she's like, I love the ballet. I guess what she's saying. I guess she sees her situation mirrored in his because he's up for an Oscar. But this isn't a real scandal.

Like he didn't say anything. It's not a real scandal. And she thinks that he's. going to be treated like totally fine because he's not a trans woman. And she was, you know, thrown in the corner because she's a trans woman, not because of the tweets. And this is one of those situations where like if you don't, you know the Timothy scandal, but you haven't seen the interview. Like if you now go watch it, it will seem like so not a big deal. And it's so funny because people don't actually know what he said. I was watching this like actually terrible take

on TikTok today of like a girl talking about like her take and being like, and Timothy said like that ballet and opera is dead. That's actually not what he said. He just says nobody cares. So it's Like people don't even know what he actually said. They're all just like giving their takes on opera and Broadway. I mean, excuse me, and ballet. And like, where were your takes before this? Like, you're not a true supporter of the arts. Yeah.

I also feel like the way that this tweet is written from Carla Sophia Instagram story. It's giving like real housewife. And I feel like I could see her on the real housewives, you know? I just want to say I would love. Like the way that she's talking, it's like, what are you saying? The Carla that we were seeing before she was like actually escorted out of the awards was she was like funny and kind of crazy and just like really giving. like. Is that what we were seeing? Marisol's mom from, she was like, Mama Elsa. She was giving Mama Elsa just sort of like crazy older woman energy. Yeah, I could see it. I wonder where she lives.

I don't know. She would thrive with the real housewives of Miami. Yeah, but she's also, she's also acting like she's better than Timothy. Like, I love ballet. Like, even though you, you know what I mean? I was escorted off the red carpet. I also love ballet. I kind of miss her. I know me too. It's like fun to hear from her. Yeah. And that was such a crazy, a crazy award season. That was really crazy that that happened because like Amelia Perez was everywhere and then it was like came to a screeching halt. People are saying that one battle after another is much like Amelia Perez. Like that it's very bad, but you wouldn't know. People are like, are we talking about the same movie? Well, that's what I feel about sinners now based on, and it's the same thing. I saw I just, people talk about Amelia Perez,

amazing movie. So I was like, amazing movie. I never saw it. And then I saw like two or three clips and I was like, whoa. Horrified. Yeah. Whoa. And then I saw that one sinners clip. I would have assume Sinners was like a good normal movie like I wouldn't think anything of it. It's like star studded and it's award nominee. Winning. Great. Um, and I'm like, whoa. Yeah. Whoa, guys. Yeah. Though like Haley Seidville's like movies these days. Like are just bad. No, like, poorly written. Maybe. Maybe the elk of movies like has changed since we were kids, you know? In what, in what way? They're just kind of crazy now. Like when I watched all the award movies last year, which was such a fun thing to do.

I couldn't believe that like, Onora was the film that watched and people are always like, you don't get it. I fucking hate when people say that. I actually think you don't get it because bad is bad. People love to say, like, well, you just didn't get it.

But also, it could have been bad. Yeah, you could have not gotten it and have been bad. No, I got it. But it wasn't bad because you didn't get it. And when I just think of like the elk of movies that used to be like, when we were growing up, I hate to be like a grandma. Like movies that won all the awards.

Like a slumdog millionaire. Slumdog Millionaire, of course. They're amazing, amazing movies. Titanic, 12 years of slave, you know? Like, they were making real movies. And then I watched Anora, like this actual student film, pornography. I'm like, this just won the same award as Titanic. Like, that's insane.

Yeah. Insane. And there actually were a couple of movies I watched them all last year. Like, if they won, I would have understood it. Honestly, a movie that really stuck with me. Conclave. Conclave. So good.

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Yep. Okay, our next story, exciting news. Casey Musgraves announces her new album with Texas Roots coming out on May 1st. So she announced her new studio album. It is called Middle of Nowhere. And it is her follow-up album from Deeper Well. Yes. The architect. The description for the album notes that it is a collection of songs that draws from a love of Texas, dance, all classics, humorous takes on the human condition and the space where traditional country borders many sounds, including Nortenio and even Zedeco. She says, in a statement announcing the album's release that it was made during the longest period of time that she was single. During that time, she was living between Texas, Tennessee, and Mexico, and the album came out of a lot of time for creative ambling. She said, I became fascinated with the concept of liminal space, both geographical and emotional. We don't linger in these transitional empty spaces long enough and rush to define where or whatever is next. So I want to say I'm really open to receiving this album for a multitude of reasons. The description sounds like OG Kelsey, Casey. And a lot of people don't realize, like, I invented Casey Musgraves,

not only, like, in my family, 100% don't even try. I was, like, at one point in time. No, no, that's okay. But, yeah. At one point in time, like, nobody on the planet was a bigger Casey Musgraves fan than me. And it was, like, fun and exciting when Golden Hour, like, blew up. There were two albums before that, just, like, people don't know that. They know her from Golden Hour.

They were really excited about this album, like, you could listen to those, too. Yeah, and she got, like, all this, like, mainstream success from that. And I do feel like it influenced the type of music she released. And I think she went so sideways with Breadwinner. I did not like it. It wasn't for me. Space Cowboy. No, that's Golden Hour.

No, it's not. It is. I don't think it is. No, it is. Hold on. There's an album in between. There's not. Space Cowboy.

Oh, that is, okay, what's the other album? And then right after that was the red one. I think it's called Red Winner. High Horse. Is that the name of the album? High Horse. What's that from? That's also on Golden Hour.

Star crossed. That's the album. The red one. Yeah. That's breadwinner's on that one, right? That was like the lead single. Good wife. Breadwinner. That was all about her divorce. That was the album after she had all this mainstream success. And I feel like she was making it for like the new fans.

It was like very much edging out of country. And it wasn't for me. And I feel like maybe she got like a little swept up and just being the most famous girl in the world. I also think because she was having so much like pop success, Hollywood success. That's where she was spending her time. It was very like L.A. She was at the Kardashian Halloween party. Right.

So she was making like music for that. a time in her life, which wasn't the same time that came before, nor after. And so not only was that music, like, not for her OG fans. I don't even think, like, her new fans liked it that much. I think that's probably her least commercially successful album. They were fair weather fans, I would say. Yeah. And then she stripped down a little bit.

I think she took some time off, did a lot of self-reflection on the deeper well album, which is very good, and it's very reflective. So it's kind of, like, not a sad album, but a deep album. Yeah, it's a deeper well. Now I feel. And we got songs such as the Grammy-winning song, The Archie, And the Toasty winning song The Architect. Like there are some songs on there like the message is messaging.

And now I feel like she went so far left. She rebounded. She came back to herself. And now I feel like this album is going to be the most similar to like what she's really known for. She has a song with Miranda Lambert on there. That's the kind of the lead story because apparently her Miranda had beef. I didn't know about it.

And now we know it's about the song Mama's Broken Heart, which is Miranda Lambert's most successful song ever. And it was actually written by Casey Musgraves and other songwriters. Casey's one of the lead writers on it. And I guess she had plans to keep it for herself. She wasn't an artist yet. She was just like a very successful songwriter for other people, but she was going to hang on to this one.

Somebody sent it to Miranda without telling her. Miranda loved it so much. And Casey was like, I kind of had to give it to her, like with all the other songwriters. Like that's how you make your money. I couldn't like screw my fellow songwriters because I wanted to keep this one song. And it ended up becoming so big. A lot of people made a lot of money off of it.

And then Casey was like, but you know what? I wouldn't have done. Same trailer at different park. If I had done Mama's Broken Heart. So like everything worked out for everybody. but she was like, she said in an interview. She's like, I just kind of hated Miranda Lambert because like a little bit of resentment.

And so they were not friends. They weren't like enemies, but they like didn't like one another. And then when Casey was writing this album, she realized like her Miranda are kind of on like similar vibes with their like divorces and everything. And so she just reached out and was like, I had this funny idea for a song. Would you sing it and Miranda was down?

I think that I would be best friends with Miranda Lambert. And so I'm glad that Casey and her are connecting. Miranda's very country. Like she doesn't even bother going pop. No. And also Willie Nelson is on the album, which like if Casey must. Graves isn't like doing something with Willie Nelson are talking about.

Yeah, they have music together. And she's not Casey Mosgraves. Yeah. Billy Strings, sounds like a country person. And Gregory Allen Isakov. Yeah, no, I'm feeling positive about this. Me as well, because deeper well to me was like, it wasn't like, you know, banger season, but it checked all the boxes.

It was an amazing album. Yeah. I do feel like she, like that Grammy was like almost a little bit of like a curse for her, you know? You know what I think at the time everyone knew that it was got. I think she probably even, like, because how do you seriously win album of the year as such a small artist. As a small artist and ever match that on the next one. Like you don't. It is going to be like a slump before it gets better. And I feel like everybody knew that was coming. And also I think if you're looking at like the country swirlies right now, like I think

for a while like a couple of years ago, a lot of them ventured into like country pop. And that's where like the success was like the Marin and Kelsey. And now I feel like the girls who are really like killing it in country are really reverting back to like Ella Langley type. Like Miranda Lamber type. It's a real like country. And so hopefully she follows that trend a little bit and goes back to her. It's true. Like some of the country pop, like, girlies like went there and like didn't come back and didn't and nothing really happened over there. I feel like the trends. The same way that like everyone's listening to like this soulful like music right now. Like Livia Dean, it's like they stop sort of listening to like country girly pop. Not me because I'm a country fan. But like the fair weather fans were like, oh, we like Casey Musgraves and Marin Morris and now they're like and now we don't.

And I feel like, not to blame her, but like it's Loki Taylor's fault. Like she had this insane crossover. And I think a lot of people then tried to replicate it with this like fearless type of country girl pop. And a lot of the girlies followed her. And it worked for a while. But now I think like what's popular with women in country is this very like rodeo, Megan Maroney, Ella Langley. Like very country. It's very girly country.

But it's not pop at all. It's country. Yeah. So hopefully Casey follows suit. I don't think Miranda would sign onto a project that was even remotely pop. I feel like this is not going to be pop. It's giving like more deeper well, like musings and just sort of like poetry. set to music.

I could go like a little more upbeat deeper well. I don't need to like contemplate my entire existence every time. I listen to the architect. But the architect like is one of my favorite songs about time. I actually forgot about it for a while. Like until this conversation, I need to go stream the article. It's so good. It's so good.

I'm looking forward to becoming like a huge Casey Musgraves fan again. Not that I ever like I wasn't a hate or anything. I just like wasn't keeping up as much because it really didn't feel like it was for me. You felt left behind. I did and I really did not like that red album StarCrossed. She's coming back for you. Yeah. She left me behind.

And don't forget how we felt about Deeper Well, I feel like we already forgot. No, no, no, no. But like that was her going back to her roots. And now I feel like she's going to like step out a little more, but hopefully not straight too far. If you're interested in being like a real Casey Musgraves fan, not like a fair weather StarCrossed fan, I highly recommend listening to DimeStore Cowgirl. Like that song makes me cry every time I hear it. It's so sweet.

Like she was just, she's so precious. I'm telling you. I have really high hopes. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? Somebody got eliminated on the Mass Singer. Massinger reveals the identity of high voltage. Yeah, I was like, you know people have a biological clock. My body knows it's like Wednesday after 9 o'clock.

I'm like, I have to check the Messinger Reddit. So I actually didn't, I picked the story, but I didn't look at who it was until now. You ain't going to know who it is. It's Alex Lollis, Alexie Lollis, who is a former soccer player turned Fox Sports Analyst. Apparently he's an amazing voice. people were really shocked. I don't know who he is. So that's always like not exciting

when you don't know the person. No, that's not exciting at all. Did people guess this? I don't think. So I think it's like a hidden talent of hits because he's like a soccer player. Oh, and he's like. He's handsome.

Yeah. Yeah. He's like a dad. Yeah? Like a daddy or a dad? Like a dad. Like he looks like someone's dad. Father.

But I don't know if he has kids. I know just the woman. So great job. High Bolton. So Jay, you have your son, Alex Warren. and your dad, Alexie. No, my dad and my brother, King Henry.

Of course, of course. It's a family affair today. How many people are left? I know, like, I expect you to know everything about the mass. You're the one watching. Like, I actually don't know. I know nothing. There's still a lot of people left.

Oh, really? Yeah, I want to say like, I never want. Oh, they guessed Travis Kelsey for him. That's a good guess. Imagine. Imagine. I want to know how many people. Oh, they're still Pangolin.

crane crane they're saying is normani oh my god it definitely is from the work from home video music video yeah like when they work that's what people are saying there's just fucking no way so philip phillips normani like literally all my ops um Ashley Simpson Evan ross I think these are all guesses I don't know for sure and pangolin was in the bottom too I don't I don't I don't know who people think that is oh here you are in like the roundup oh man did you see that Spencer Pratt is like slowly inching up like the recent polls he's only eight points behind Karen Bass of LA isn't that insane I saw the poll this morning I'm like there's literally no way I love it I know um now now for southern term recap right oh right yeah so we're just wrapping up the

season Carolina day party of course hosted by miss Patricia and not her house I wonder whose place that was it was really nice um so everyone got all dressed up and came um came to play charlie is done with Craig due to what happened on the bus with Sally. However, I don't, and you know, I love Charlie. Oh my God. And she looks so gargy at the union. I don't like fully endorse the way she went about like ending things with him because she didn't. She just was like, I'm not speaking to him again, didn't tell him why he was like kind of confused. He's like, we used to talk every day. And like, now we don't. And it's been four days since Mexico. So he's like, I'll talk to her at the party. She keeps like running out of every room that he's in. And then when they finally have the conversation,

he is like as remorseful as Craig can be, I guess I'm recognizing that that's like not his strong suit. but he's like, you know, sort of, like, expressing remorse and also saying how much he liked her and, like, how bummed he is that she's, like, done with him. She was like, oh, I didn't know that about how much he liked her. And it's like, well, yeah, if you just spoke to him and said, like, I really didn't like what you did. And, like, you could have ended it, but, like, a conversation might have given you a new perspective. He could have been like, oh, my God, I'm not only apologized for that,

but expressed you how much that he did like you. Like, maybe it could have ended differently, like, because they are pretty cute together, but she sort of just, like, ended. And I understand, like, seeing that side of someone. like, oh no, I will not have that in my life. And I probably feel the same. But I would at least tell them that, not like have it be over and like ruin it before you have the chance to like maybe make amends.

Plus, Craig has made amends with Sally. He apologized to her in Mexico. She like accepted it really quickly, even though it was like not the most amazing apology. But she was like, he just has this way of like endearing. I agree. No, I agree. But like I felt like it should have been a bigger apology. Right.

She also had to be like, you know, I was upset. And he was like, oh. You weren't? What I do? So then Craig shares with Sally that actually, like the whole season, like him and Charlie were really like kind of serious. Like they talked every day. They were planning a trip together. He was going to meet her family.

And Charlie never told any of this to Sally. And Sally's so shocked and hurt by it. But it's like, why on earth would Charlie tell you any of this? Because you've only said negative things about Craig. And here's the crux, the issue of the season is like, Sally really liked Craig. She was spending all this time with him. And then when she finally, like, lets him know, I like you. He was like, oh, I don't like you like that.

And- What is this middle school? No. And instead, he likes Charlie, her best friend. And he asked out Charlie. And Charlie likes Craig, too and wanted to go out with him. So, like, what should Charlie have done? They both like Craig.

Right, right. And Craig chose Charlie. Sally feels very hurt by Craig not liking her. But in the way that he handled things, I don't really think that he ever led her on. They keep citing this. You can't be mad at someone for not liking you about her. No. And like, I feel like if he did have ever was in,

I feel like from the moment they started hanging out a lot, like he never saw it as anything like that. At one point he said like she could sleep over. But that's because like she texted like, I wish I could stay. And he was like, you could have stayed. Right, right. And even she was like, Craig is like a middle schooler

when it comes to girls. Sleep over. He's not like, you know, he's like the least, the last person to like be disrespectful to a woman or like lead someone on. So he, maybe he knew that Sally had a crush on him, but he never was like even explain. that he was obviously just like staying friends but it's funny because like Sally got like chickens

because he said like she should get chicken Oh stop And then at the end of the season She re-honed them No and thankfully her family has a farm So like she just gave them to her parents It was like really funny It's like classic girl like when your man says

Oh you're like I'm into basketball And you should wear in jerseys like So she's like really funny in that regard But also so not only do I think that Craig didn't lead her on He obviously was like a little too nice But that's just Craig literally five minutes later the minute that Austin and his girlfriend broke up

this season she's all over Austin like she's in love with Austin and they had this final scene outside of Carolina Day party where he's like leaving and they hooked up in Mexico even though he just broke up with his girlfriend and she's very aggressive with him she's like I like you I think you're so cute like let's go let's go and he's like you know what that feels good for someone to like

really gas you up like that and then in the last scene she's like standing on the porch of the house and she looks so beautiful like with the lights are like she looks like a goddess because the house lights are like lighting her up and he's over there. And, like, you could see that he knows that she's so beautiful. And she's like, take me with you.

And I think that they're like an item. Oh. Yeah, I think it's working out. Like I saw what she said on a podcast that like they're not together, but like they love each other. They're like best friends who are like in love and hook up. And so they're together. So she's got to close that.

Oh, wait. You didn't choose as a story. You see that Tom Brady was spotted with Yael Cohen, Scooter Braun's X. Oh, I saw that he was spotted with Scrutor Bronze X. But I didn't know it was the X. Yeah, yeah. And I just want to say like, taking out the Alex Earl thing, I kind of ship.

Like, I think that's an amazing pairing. Very mature, age appropriate. I think that they operate at the same level. Like she, you know, is a wealthy, wealthy woman. She's used to dating like a very, you know, influential, high power individual. Like, sorry for Alex. I don't know what that, but I think that this is actually a very good pairing. And it's the first time he's ever dated someone who's not 11.

She's in her 30s, I think. She's insanely gorgeous. Yeah. I think it's a perfect pairing. And she's also parent. I think that's great. When I saw Tom Brady's with Scooter Braun's Ex and I saw I was just like some model, you know?

Yeah, no, no. No, like the wife. Yeah. Oh, I love that. I love that too. I love that. I don't know what it means for Licks, but. She'll be fine.

Yeah, she'll be fine. Call Braxton. Call Brooks. No, they're like Miranda and Casey. They are. So next week, Reunion Austin and Sally, yeah, they seem to be like together. Craig has a lot to answer for it. They're teasing it like he storms out of the reunion

and he's going to quit the show. sure can, even though he's on watch her out and side with his best friends. I need the boys to stop fighting. Like, it's so lame. It's so lame. And I need, that's for the girls. I need everyone to, like, start, like, moving forward, like, dating with intention.

Austin and Sally, I completely endorse. So it's also just like, Sally, how can you be so heartbroken that Charlie went on a date with Craig when, like, you, in two seconds are, you wanted Austin. Right, right. And if Sally, if Charlie liked him too, too, their names are too similar. And I remember you telling me the last, on her first season that she was into Shep, right? She had hooked up with Shep, but I don't think she, was like in him and she had dated Taylor,

the guy Taylor was dating at the time, Gastone. I'm sorry, what? Gastone! That was perfect harmony. That's harmony. I agree. I think we just leave it right there. Thank you guys so much.

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