The Toast - How To Make Friends and Influence People with Kathleen Post: Tuesday, June 3rd, 2025

Episode Date: June 3, 2025

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Good morning, girlies, it's the Toast. It's Jackson, Claude, and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show, the best five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly, it's the Toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast. Jax and friends, Florida edition, week two, day two. I am joined by a new friend today.

Kathleen Post, welcome to The Toast. Thank you. It rhymes. It's meant to be. It's meant to be. Kathleen, you are an influencer, a Miami swirly, and a toaster. I am.

My favorite thing. The trifect is- The trifecta. The trifecta when looking for a co-host for Florida Month. I'm so glad I checked all the boxes. You really checked all the boxes. The vibes are party. When you guys reached out, I genuinely was like, they meant to email someone else. This is a mistake.

I actually was like, this is spam. And I was thinking that the toast was being caught up in some fraudulent scheme. I was waiting for them to ask for my credit card information. I was like, I need to reach out to the toast and let them know that their name and likeness is being used in some influencer scheme. That's so funny.

Imagine if you didn't respond because you were like, this is spam. Yeah, I was reading down, I'm like, okay, where are they asking me for my credit card information and my social security? They're like, in order to lock in the spot to be on the toast, please provide us with your SSN. You have to pay $1,1000. That's a big scheme.

And I was like no this is real and I responded so fast not as fast as cast. Well yeah that hence Tuesday I guess but we are so excited that you are here. Thank you I'm so excited. For the toasters out there who don't know you will you please introduce yourself where do you hail from? Yes, I would love to. So I hail from Indianapolis originally. I'm from there, I've lived there most of my life. I went to Indiana University,

so I know there's some IU swirlies listening. Thank you for sharing that information because I find myself when we're doing Jackson Friends that I wanna know where everyone went to college. Yeah, right. And it's like, we all wanna know, so let's just put it out there. I don't know why it's germane to your story.

It adds context. Like, was I a big tin swirly? Was I a small like a small like. Small liberal arts. A dropout. Yeah, exactly. So yeah, I went to IU. I was a marketing major.

I was in the business school with a minor in fashion. And I've lived there most of my life, but this past winter we moved down to Miami. And we were down here from January through May. And we loved it. Hear that, Claudia? I know. And after your episode yesterday, like, I was.

You're thinking about moving here full time. Considering. Considering. So when you moved here here did you ever do like the snowbird life or did you just like rip the band-aid fully move here rip the band-aid fully moved here that was always our plan we found ourselves going back and forth a lot and also like when I was pregnant with Charlie we had to move back for six months that wasn't part of the plan and it wasn't ideal um

but we wind up spending a lot of time back there and now we spend summers in New York So it's not snowbird at all But like we aren't here 12 months out of the year, which I feel like that's most people Like when we were down here, everyone's like, oh are you guys gonna move here? And we were just talking to people and everyone's like well, we we split time or you know trips to the Cape like everyone Well, everyone here is like from New York. Yeah, everyone's like, oh no, no, we go home for the summer. So everyone here is from somewhere else. Yeah.

And whenever we would talk to people, they're like, well, why don't you just move to Miami? And I'm like, my problem is we love being right on the beach. And when we were down here for five months, we lived right on the beach, pargy condo, like just, we loved it. And I'm like, do I love Miami because every morning I was walking down to the beach to start my day? Or do I like actually love Miami?

So that's because I'm a suburbs girl. Like I'm from Indiana. Like Miami is a lot when you're from Indiana. Like everyone here is from New York. I'm like, you guys get the vibes. But when you're from the suburbs of Indiana, like it was a big transition. Where did you move after college?

We lived in Indianapolis for a little bit. We moved to LA for a year. And? For my husband's job. It was fun. It was kind of one of those things where we were like, we know this is temporary. We're not going to live here forever. LA's a lot too.

Yeah. Not as much. I feel like Miami's a little more approachable. LA, just it's the traffic, that people can be interesting. I feel like Miami people were like really nice and welcoming not that they weren't in LA but it's just different. It kind of felt like who do you know like how can I use a connection from you so and it was we moved out there for my husband's job and then they asked us to move back so we kind of knew it was like a temporary

thing. Yeah that's fine. It was kind of one of those things where we're like, we're young, let's go move somewhere. And now we're in Indianapolis and we're like, do we stay here? I mean, do we split time? Do we do six months, six months? Which a lot of people do that too. So I don't know, we'll see. We'll see how long have you been married?

10 years, I was a child bride. Oh, like Claudia. Oh yeah, how old was she? Like 23, I think. Okay, yeah, I was 22. 22. Yeah, which is crazy. That's so nice though.

We just celebrated our 10 year anniversary and people are like, 10 years, how? Which I'm not saying I'm like that young, but like. I'm sorry, that's a surprising fact. Right, who are like, have you been, oh, you mean you've been together 10 years, married five? And I'm like, no, no, no, we've been together like 14 years, married 10, which it's crazy because now I'm like, I look at 22 year olds and I'm like,

I would never ever advise someone to get married that young, but it worked for us and we just we knew that we wanted to be together and it was kind of those things where it was like, why wait? Also, it just it felt normal at the time, even though now I look back and I'm like, my brain was not fully developed. Do a lot of people in your community growing up get married young? What were the circumstances? I don't know if it's necessarily in the Indianapolis community.

I do think in general maybe Midwest more so than a New York or LA, but I also grew up super conservative Christian religious background where it was in that community, it was very normal. Yeah. So I wasn't like, oh, I'm crazy for getting married so young. It didn't feel young to you. It just felt like, oh yeah, like that's normal. Anyways, now I look back and I'm like, that was so young,

but like, I don't know, I just feel like we're lucky because I see people who get married young and it's like, you grow so much. Like I feel like I am not the same person now at 32 than I was at 22, But thankfully we grew together. Whereas I see a lot of couples who get married young. I mean, I'm watching Secret Lives right now. And it's just like-

I was gonna ask you, because a lot of what you're saying does sound like Secret Wives, like they're on their third husband and they're 26. And I'm like, I see how that happens. Like, cause you get married so young and then your values change, your goals change. And I look at these girls on that show

and I'm just like, oh my gosh. And then you have to remember they're 24. Yeah. But then sometimes it does work out. Like there are couples there that got married really young and like it's going well. And lots of couples. I mean, Claudia and Ben. And Claudia and Ben.

But Claudia will always say about this, she's like, Ben and I like are the exception to this. Oh yeah. And that's how I feel. I feel like someday if I have a daughter, I would not advise her to get married that young. But I do feel like we are the exception. I mean, I don't know. I do know a lot of people where it's worked out.

But a lot has to go right. Yeah. It can be, yeah. I see why it doesn't work out for most people. So anyways, got married really young, moved to LA, moved back to Indianapolis, and we've just been trying to figure out life. And so last year, we came to Miami

for one month for the month of January, and we loved it. So then we were like, OK, should we maybe do like six months? We ended up doing almost five, and then we went back to Indy. Now I'm here today, and then flying out to New York after this. Oh, fun. So just here to yap. How long have you been influencing?

For 10 years. So I graduated and then started right after college. And when I started, well, influencing wasn't even a word then, you know what I mean? Like I was a blogger. Content creator. Yes, even content creator wasn't really a thing.

It was like, I was blogging. Like I would be like, go onto my blog post and like have out, you know, like 30 photos of me in an outfit, one outfit, and be like, go onto my blog post and have out 30 photos of me in an outfit, one outfit, and be like, hi, guys. So today I'm wearing a denim jacket and flared jeans. And it reminds me of this time when I was in the third grade. And I learned this really important life lesson.

You'd literally be writing 1,000 words. It was called Lemon Blonde, because that was for the Gen Zers. That's classic stuff. Yeah, I know, right? So back in the day, your blog names were two kind of kitschy words that could be like, pigtails and peonies or something like that.

That's like Rach Parcell. Exactly. Pink peonies. Right, exactly. Cupcakes and cashmere. Dress up buttercup. Champagne Chanel. Champagne Chanel.

Classic stuff. Classic stuff. So I came on the scene and there was something navy. Yeah. That was just how it was. So I was lemon blonde. And, but thankfully my Instagram handle was always my name. So I never had to like retrain.

Cause now like I'll see people I'm like, oh yeah, that's pink peony or that's something Navy. And it's like, no, that's not her name. So thankfully my name was always Kathleen Post. I never had to retrain the audience, but yeah. So we would like literally write blog posts about what we were wearing, which is so ancient now. But I'm glad I started when I did.

It was a long time ago. Things have changed a lot. But like when I started Instagram, stories weren't even a thing. Like you would post a photo on your Instagram to tell people to go read your blog. And they couldn't like click through stories. No, there weren't stories.

It was just like link and bio. And then stories came along and that changed the game. Yeah. But that was also a time because that's when you would wear these like crazy filters, like the dog filter. And you'd be like doing a makeup tutorial. And you'd be like, OK, so my lip combo today.

And then you'd be like, because the tongue would come out of the dog filter. You'd be like telling like a real, you'd be like, hey guys, so I just want to give you guys a little life update. And you'd be like, meow. Like XOs and ears would would pop out of your head. And I'm like, how did anyone take it seriously? We'd be doing a makeup tutorial with a dog filter on.

And that was just the norm. We didn't question it. It was. I used to always do my lip videos with a snout covering my mouth. Exactly. And you're like, isn't this lip combo pargy? Click to buy the thing you can see. So funny. But yeah, I look back at that. And I'm like, isn't this lip combo pargy? Click to buy the thing you can see. So funny.

But yeah, I look back at that and I'm like, what were we thinking? But it was just normal. So yeah. And it makes you wonder like what we do now that we're gonna look back on and be like. TikTok, the dances. The dances.

Even like the lip syncing thing, I feel like someday we're gonna look back and be like, we would memorize a script to lip sync. That's it. I feel like I'm marked safe from this, but like the I'll watch. On reels, you're not Mark safe on reels. No, but like I'll watch videos of people doing like the script of acting, you know, a voiceover or whatever.

And it's like good content. That's how people create content. But like, if you really take a step back and think about like, how long did it take you to memorize that? That's what you spent spent one whole hour doing. It really takes you out of it. It breaks the fourth wall when you're like, oh, they set up their tripod, memorized a script,

and then hit record, edited it, pieced it together, but it's fun to watch. You just can't think about the behind the scenes. The dog filter was fun to watch too, though. It was. I mean, we just didn't wanna show our real face. It was scary. You felt so exposed to the world. It was like, maybe if I put on ears, a snout,

and have a tongue sticking out of my mouth, I can present myself to the world safely today. It's true. And I do feel like, for the most part, we've graduated from filters. Even on Instagram, for a while, there were those AI beauty filters that were like, they didn't even look real, but they were just nice to look at.

But I feel like I've been clean from using beauty filters from like for two years now. Yeah, it was kind of this progression. It took a while to become sober, but I started with removing the animals from my face. And then I was like, maybe if I just use these like subtle beauty filters, like it's gonna make my lips a little bit bigger,

my nose a little bit more snatched. And like, it's also gonna make me look like really like creamy like very like Bay a little sparkle, but like I'm not an animal at least yeah Then it was like okay super super subtle and now and now we're free Yeah, I just got to show your face And it's funny because if I watch old videos from from 2019 where I'm using those Instagram beauty filters, it's like, that doesn't look like a human being. No, it's so scary.

And I was so beautiful then. Like, girl, take the filter off. My skin was so good. Put it on now in 2025. Now I'm so brave. Then, what am I hiding? No, we were really warped. And it's still a thing on TikTok, though.

I see on TikTok, a lot of people post a video and I'm like, wow, that girl is so gorgeous. Who's her plastic surgeon? She looks amazing. And then it's like flawless skin, 5,000. But they tell you when people use a filter. So at least it's showing you, which Instagram did too. But it did.

But you're saying they look like real people. Like if they didn't tell you you used a filter, it's just better technology. Yeah, it's just kind of like you would glance at it and be like, wow, this girl is stunning. How have I never seen her before? Then you put the filter on your face and you're like, I am stunning. How have I never seen her before? You're like, oh, that's why it's the filter.

So, yeah, now we just got to this is just exposure therapy. I'm on the toes, you know, filter free. Yeah, we're filter free here, but it's a Pargy environment. It really is. It's so fun being behind the scenes and seeing how this all is made. Oh, what do you think? I love it.

I mean, I've never been on a podcast before, so I'm sorry, I'm a little nervous right now. No, that's so okay. I've never done this, but this is so exciting. I'm humbled and proud that we are your first one, but like- Yes, you guys are taking my podcast virginity. What did you expect when you came here and what is what?

I kind of thought we'd be in like a small little room. I also didn't expect this to be so beautiful. And I also like that we can kind of see ourselves like I can look. Oh, yeah. Yesterday, a little I can judge just in case we're supposed to turn off the monitor because otherwise we'll just stare at ourselves the whole time. Like, hey, yeah. So we should turn off the light. I like it. You like it. OK. Just in case I'm like eyes up here. we should turn off the mom. No, I like it. You like it?

Okay, but like. Just in case I'm like. Eyes up here. Being crazy, yeah. That one's your camera. I'm trying to just look at you. But every once in a while, you might see my eyes going over and just gotta check things out a little bit.

No, this is so cool. You guys are obviously so successful and it's so fun to just be behind the scenes. I'm a toaster, I'm a Patrioni, I'm all the things. I'm a thanks queen. I bought Camper and the Counselor for my sister-in-law who's having a baby. Oh my gosh, thank you, she will love it.

Yeah, she's a huge sister too. So I didn't tell anyone I was coming on. Oh my, are they gonna be like, what? I told a couple people because in my excitement when I got the email that I thought was potentially fraudulent, I was like, oh my gosh, I'm freaked out. And I kept waiting for you guys to email me

and be like, oh, I'm so sorry. We were actually looking for a different Kathleen. And I was like, thankfully Kathleen's not like a super common influencer name, but I was like, maybe someone tips Jackie off like, oh, hey, Kathleen, and you meant to email a different Kathleen. And so I was like, I kept waiting for like the cancellation email, like, hey, sorry, we double booked you or like, you know, Jackie's sick or something like that. And I was like, no, this is really happening.

So I didn't tell anyone, so this will be a surprise. I understand. I'd be the same way. Like, I don't tell anyone anything until it's over. And it will be funny if you like, don't tell your friends who are toasters, and then they'll just like open up their phone. Yeah, that's the plan.

And see that it's you. Surprise. I love that. Jump scare. Kathleen's on the toast. We have such an important episode today. I'm so excited. Because we have the Fast Five stories.

And we are here to work and break down the stories. And then we also have Dear Toasters. You are here on a Tuesday. Yes, DTQ. I'm so excited. Because we have the Fast Five Stories and we are here to work and break down the stories and then we also have Dear Toasters. You are here on a Tuesday. Yes, DTQ. I'm here for you. She will be making sure that we get to the Dear Toasters today. I didn't even think about the fact that it was a Tuesday. Yeah. And that's Dear Toasters Day. We have some really cute submissions and the girlies need our help. I'm here to help. We're here to help. You know that's what I love about being an influencer. I'm just here to help the girlies. Well that's also like co-hosting the toast. This is an act of service. It is.

We're giving back to the community, and we appreciate your service. Yeah, we're just here to help. We're here to help. I'm so excited. So now without further ado-da-doo-da-doo, it is time for the Fast Five Stories that you need to know. I have a quick question.

Yeah? When you do the do-da-doo-da-doo to people who aren't familiar with the toast, are they like, what the heck? So last week on Jackson friends, I was like, I wonder if that like takes it out of like, what is she doing? I feel like anyone who comes in the toast,

even if they don't listen all the time, like they know that we are a little funky and we've got things, I mean that inside joke. So like when I do something like that, it's like, oh, okay, that's just like toasting. Okay, got it. You know, they don't question it, I would hope. I don't think they think we're so like straight laced here.

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Our first story, a little update in the Blake Lively-Justin Baldoni case, which does seem like big news, so we shall discuss. Blake Lively is attempting to withdraw her claims against Justin Baldoni case, which does seem like big news, so we shall discuss. Blake Lively is attempting to withdraw her claims against Justin Baldoni of intentional infliction and emotional distress and negligent infliction of emotional distress. The move comes after his team sought discovery that included her medical records in their efforts to defend the director against her claim that she suffered severe emotional distress and pain, humiliation, embarrassment, belittlement, frustration, and mental anguish. Her attempt to withdraw the claims surfaced in a filing Monday by his attorneys who are seeking to compel the actress to sign a HIPAA release for access to

therapy notes and other relevant information. Well, Dan. Wow. I mean, yeah, I guess that makes sense if that's what she's saying happened to her, like they have to then prove that that's what happened to her. But I would not want to sign something like that. Like then your therapy sessions, regardless of what happened in the case, are then in the docket. Like what if she has marital issues? So I understand why she's withdrawing.

I think this is like a hard thing to prove. And it just like opens up a can of worms, but it doesn't look good that she's withdrawing something because you know, this whole time people are like, that didn't happen. And now she's worms, but it doesn't look good that she's withdrawing something because, you know, this whole time people are like, that didn't happen. And now she's like, but that is a good backup plan. I mean, for him. Well, so for her to withdraw.

Well, yeah, but it doesn't like help her case. Right. But I'm just saying like, that's an easy thing to say, like, sorry, got to withdraw. Yeah. But I mean, I recently saw a psychiatrist and the whole time I was thinking, what if this gets leaked? You know what I mean? Right, I never even thought

that there's a way that it could. Yeah, you just think like. But if you wanna prove that you've had emotional distress, you need to prove it. It makes total sense, it's unfortunate. Yeah, wait, I'm sorry, I kinda zoned out for the first second of you reading because I just was like, oh my gosh, I'm on the toast.

Can you just reread the first couple sentences? Yes, so basically she was in her suit, she's claiming that he caused emotional distress and negligent infliction of emotional distress. She's now rescinding that and withdrawing that claim because he said, okay, well then show me your therapy records. Like where's the emotional distress? Yes, yeah.

So it doesn't look good for her. Yeah, nothing is looking good for her. Yeah. I, nothing is looking good for her right now. Well that's the truth. I think my, one of my biggest concerns in all this was where Taylor would fall in line with everything and I'm feeling like right now she's kind of marked safe by, I was just thinking how is this going to affect my view of Taylor? And I feel like her separation from Blake is marking her safe in the situation, which I'm happy about. But right now where I stand is that they're both crazy

and have Justin and Blake crazy and Ryan have huge egos and their egos are bruised. And I kind of went back and forth, like team Justin, team Blake, flip-flopped a little bit. And now I'm just like, you're both crazy. Yeah. So would you judge Taylor if she was like still stepping out with Blake at this point?

Of course. Would you? No, I kind of judge her more for like, not standing by her person that would be her best friend and who she said is her best friend. So then when I was talking with KFC last week, I kind of like ended up in this place of like maybe their friendship just wasn't

as close as I ever thought it was. But I don't know, I appreciate loyalty. Yeah, that's true. But if someone's throwing you under the bus and like calling you a dragon, like dragging you into this and you know, threatening to release texts, like to me, I'm like, if all that's true, I'm like- Well, then we find out that she seems to have crossed her.

So Taylor's like, oh, you can go fuck yourself. Yeah. But I'm pretty ride or die. Yeah. So it's not- You're a better person than I am. I wouldn't judge her for standing by Blake, even if her friend is so wrong.

Yeah. It's so tricky because we will just never know the truth. And I think that's the hard thing is like, we can speculate all we want, but like we're never gonna know how good of friends they actually were. And what went on behind the scenes? I don't know, godmother?

Like, I just feel like that's not something to throw around lightly, but what do I know? Do you have to say, yeah, like, what if it was like she asked her to be the godmother and she's like, I don't wanna be the godmother, but how do you say no to something like that? Can you say no if someone's like asked her to be the godmother and she's like I don't want to be the godmother. How do you say no to something? Right that can you say no if someone's like will you be the godmother my kids? I think so because I don't know a lot about like godmothering. Are you anyone's godmother? Uh, no, I have a someone's our dog mother

But but doesn't it mean that like if anything happens to your kids that you would take over and I think so Like there's probably something else legally written and some people maybe just use the name as like you're the godmother. Right like it's just a cute thing. Right yeah. Like an auntie. Yeah exactly um but I don't know if I don't know how seriously she took the phrase godmother. I'm sorry this is even crazier like that's what she's a kid's godmother and like she's gonna be like providing for them if anything were happening like in Ryan and like now they're not friends anymore. Right. That. What do you do then? Has anyone had a split with their god-mother? I'm surprised no one's written in on Dear Toasters. I'm sure that they have. But I honestly we might not choose it because I

wouldn't know how to advise you because I know nothing about godmotherhood. Yeah I do think that a lot of people probably say like will you be the godmother but it's not in writing. That's that would be be my guess. Yeah. It's just a nice title. Yeah, it's cute. It's like, will you be the godmother? It is. But it's not written in the will. But yeah, I'm right now, it's just, it's not looking good.

But I love all the stories about it. And I love when something new comes up because it's just, it keeps it fresh. It does keep it fresh. I can't say that I love all the stories about it, but. Well, you have to talk about it all the time. Right, I do look forward to the trial though, and like getting answers and then being done with this.

Same, March can't come soon enough. Even though I think ultimately just like the two of them just didn't like each other, or maybe did like, maybe they liked each other. I don't buy that. I don't know. I'm not writing it off. I think maybe Blake's ego is a little bruised

and whether she maybe had a little crush or something like that, but I don't think they had a fling. No, I don't think anything came of it, but maybe there was crushes. Just a little crush and a little ego bruising. And now they're both butt hurt and they've made it too big of a deal

to kind of back down now, but they should never have gotten to this place. Except he needs to take back his name and his company and his movie. So I understand why he's like putting everything he has behind this. Yeah, so does Ryan still follow you guys? Oh, I don't know.

Because- I don't think he listens that closely. Oh yeah, Ryan Reynolds had followed the toast over the summer. When we were defending Blake from our own volition, we just- Yeah. We didn't like what was happening.

Let's go see. And that was a big deal when he started following. Oh, he does follow the toast. For now. He still follows. For now, but that's not going to change what I say. Sorry, Ryan. No, of course. You're too honest. I can't be bought. No, you're authentic. For less than a billion. You're authentic, raw, and real. A true influencer. Thank you so much. Are you ready for our next story? Speaking of authentic, raw and real, Kylie Jenner is sharing the exact details of her boob job with a fan. So a creator on TikTok made a video saying that she loves Kylie's boobs. And like Kylie, I know you probably won't see this. And if you do see this, you're not going to answer.

But like, I need to know what you asked your doctor when you went in for your boob job. Hold on. I'm going to clear my throat. Cause I know you don't like when I talk through my frog. As if it's my fault. You're doing great. So the TikTok user uploaded a video of herself on Monday urging Kylie to share what she asked for when getting her boobs done. Hailing her boob job is the most perfect natural boob ever.

She said Kylie's boobs are perfection. She said, help a girl out at Kylie Jenner. I just want to know how to get them to sit like that. So Kylie commented on the video with the exact specifications of her boobs. Which is crazy. 445 cc moderate profile half under the muscle exclamation points silicone exclamation points Garth Fisher exclamation points hope this helps. Wow. She gave the doctor she gave the cc size she gave the She gave the material half under the muscle mean. How do you go half?

I don't know. But like thinking about it like gives me the no, I know I'm like thinking of cutting and going half. It's no idea. Literally over under. I don't want to think about it. But I love that she just responded to that. I mean, first of all, just shows that she's on TikTok.

She's seeing what the girlies are saying. Yeah. When you guys post about her, she's seeing it, which I love. I love when celebrities, they're just like us. Like, they're scrolling the FYP as well. I love that she shared what she did. And I feel like that's very rare. Yeah.

But also, like, not like anyone could ever afford her doctor. No, but you could definitely bring these specs to your doctor. Yeah, I guess like Kylie Dup. The fact that she had a boob job was not news to Kylie fans because she had talked about it on the Kardashians, I think last season. She talked about her regrets and how she had her boobs done

when she was really young and she actually misses her old boobs. And once she had a daughter, she started to see herself differently. And so she regretted getting them done. So it wasn't like we didn't know she had a boob job and she's telling us that, but to be so detailed is really appreciated, honestly. It's rare these days.

I mean, was it Lindsay Lohan just recently was like, oh, it's chia seeds. Right, Lindsay Lohan is taking the Chia Seed route. The Chia Seed way out of like, I'm drinking a lot of water. I mean, that's your right as well. But also, Chris just also got the Lindsay Lohan special. And her rep confirmed who the doctor was. And that's just information we need to know.

That's women supporting women. It is. Why are we gatekeeping these things? Especially with Lindsay Lohan, I think there, I could have read this wrong. But I think there was an article where she was like, yeah, everyone's hating and speculating. And it's like, no one's hating.

We are obsessed with you. You're in your face. You look amazing. We all want what you have. We want to know who you're talking to. No one's hating. I understand not wanting to feel like you have to share with everyone everything you've done, but I don't like when it's taking the hating route of like,

Oh, they're hating on me. They think I'm fake. We love your work. You look amazing. I think some people just want us to believe that it's natural and they achieve this on their own as if that's more impressive, which I guess it would be really impressive if she achieved it through chia seeds and fluids. But it's such a stark difference.

It is. And she looks amazing. Yeah. But it's not chia. I think she maybe was out of the loop for a little bit when she kind of- She missed the chapter on authenticity. Yeah, she missed where we're not claiming it's olive oil

or we're claiming it's like, was it Jennifer Aniston was like, you know, certain water or something like that. It's like, no one, you know, you're stuck in 2015. No one thinks it's just chia seeds anymore. Like you can claim what you had done. And she looks amazing. Like there was, she was like a trending on TikTok

where everyone would like post like a pargy picture of the ocean. They'd be like this and what Lindsay Lohan had done. Like everyone's praising your work. like post like a pargy picture of the ocean. They'd be like this and what Lindsay Lohan had done. Everyone's praising your work. But yeah, I appreciate, I appreciate Kylie coming forward. We love that. And even, I'm sure Kylie's also had like other stuff

that like we don't know about and that she wouldn't share. So just giving us like a little something like some crumbs and anyone could go get a job. Like thank you, Kylie. She was just in Indianapolis, which is where I hail from. And your team won? Our team won the Indianapolis Pacers. They won the semis, Kylie. She was just in Indianapolis, which is where I hail from. And your team won? Our team won the Indianapolis Pacers. They won the semis, whatever.

Not the, what did you think it was, like the Pennsylvania Pacers? The Pennsylvania Pacers, my favorite team. No, but I guess everyone got really quiet after the most recent Knicks game, so that means the Knicks didn't win. Yeah, the Knicks lost to the Pacers. And now they're out of the?

They're out of the tournament. Right. And now, I don't know if that's what it's called. Pacers now go on to the finals. Oh, it was the semifinals. Yes. So now they'll go on to the finals. And we're planning on going to a game, which will be fun.

Who are they playing? Thunder. Lightning. Feel the thunder. Oklahoma. Kansas. I feel like it was Kansas, because I remember being like, oh, the Chiefs.

And also, like, football and basketball go Kansas. Oh, does anyone know who's the other team in the finals? Oh, Oklahoma City. That's Kansas. Yeah. OKC. Yeah. OKC, like. Oklahoma State. Oklahoma City in Oklahoma. Oh, but what was the name of the team?

Oh, I think I heard KC and I thought it was Kansas City. Thunder. Thunder. Oklahoma. I got Thunder right. City Thunder from this great state of Oklahoma. And I thought Kansas City. And I was like, yeah, anyways.

So they're playing next and I think we're going to go. But I was really sad because Kylie and Timmy were in Indianapolis. Are you going to get, I just want to know, are you going to pay for tickets or as an Indianapolis influencer, you gonna get, I just wanna know, are you gonna pay for tickets or as an Indianapolis influencer, you shall receive tickets? No, I will pay for tickets. I, you know, I don't have that kind of pull there. You don't have that pull. What's the scene like?

I feel like you would. Well, actually I've never tried. Right? Yeah, now I should. Put it in a fair. It's never worked for us. Indianapolis. Doing that on the show, Claudia had to pay for her own Knicks tickets, but maybe in Indianapolis, there's just more warm. a big fish, small pond. Like, yeah, okay, I will go. I will be

decked out in Pacers gear. I will be the Pacers spokeswoman. Literally love if someone gets free championship tickets from the show and it's not Claudia Rye. Yeah, and it's someone from Indiana. Speaking of the Panthers are in the Stanley Cup Congratulations to the I mean to you too. You're like a Florida girl. Yes. Yes Yes, I'm not like acclimated to the Florida teams so when you said Panthers that meant nothing to me if I'm being completely honest what I was saying to Cass yesterday It's a shame like a lot of people move to Florida from elsewhere and like they bring their team loyalties with them And they doesn't translate into like Florida pride However, the Panthers rock so who doesn't want to cheer for a winning team? Yeah

That's how I am with the Pacers if I'm being honest, they're a winning team, right? I'm just I'm here to jump on that bandwagon. Yeah, I see a bandwagon going by. I'm just I'm here to jump on I'm here to support I will say I was very sad though that I wasn't at the game that Kylie was at Because I'm sure that had to have been her first time in Indiana. You think so? Have you ever been to Indiana? I've never been to Indiana. Have you been to the Midwest? Like you've been to like Chicago. I've been to Oklahoma. I've not been to Chicago. What? I have not been to Chicago. I would think you guys would have done like a toast show there or something. No, life has not taken me to Chicago.

Okay, well that, I mean that was your, if you were gonna go to the Midwest, I would think Chicago would have been your best bet. Yeah, I'm trying to think where else. That had to have been Kylie's first time in Indiana. You think so? And I just wanna know. You don't think she ever did like a Kylie Lip Kit tour of Ulta's? Ulta's, maybe.

We do have Ulta's there. Right. of Sifu-Ultas. Maybe, we do have Ultas there. Right, I feel like the Kardashians are actually well traveled in the continental US. Yeah. And abroad, but I feel like they, I mean they're America's royal family. I do feel like they make it through. Okay, because I was wondering, like, what did she think?

And I was like, I wonder where she ate and where she stayed, and then I remembered she's not like, she got right off the plane. She got off the plane. Went to the game and got back on the plane. Yeah. I was like, I wonder where she's staying where she's eating What's she up to? I'm sad that Kylie's run with the MA finals is over fun It was so much fun to do see the thing about her Knicks lingerie. I did she posted a picture of her suitcase and There was some like it looked to be lingerie. I probably wasn't. No, it probably wasn't.

But everyone's freaking, but she also was like playing into this whole thing with Timmy and the Knicks and she reposted that TikTok of Samantha from Sex and the City saying, I only get laid if the Knicks win. So she's like all in. I know I'm sad it's over. Because it was just a window into their relationship and I don't know when the next one will be.

Maybe the US Open, she likes tennis. Yeah, but this was like front row, like all about them. It was a fun era. I'm sad it's over, but I'm happy for our Pacers. I'm not happy for you guys, but I'm happy for you. Thank you. And I do look forward to hearing if this yields any free tickets for you.

Maybe they'll bring me out on the court. I mean, especially now that I've been on the toast. That really elevates me to a next level. You would think, but like, trust me, we've been trying. But I hope it works out for you. Yeah, any Indiana girls who are listening, I'm happy to support. Well, our next story, someone who was not supportive.

Meghan Markle was snubbed by an A-list singer who turned down an invite to appear on her Netflix show. So rumors are a swirling after celebrity commentator Kinsey Schofield said on a recent podcast episode of The Nerve with Maureen Callahan that Dolly Parton reportedly snubbed Meghan after she turned down an invite to appear on the actress's Netflix series with Love, Meghan. Kinsey said her team was livid, Meghan's team, because no, they don't want to risk

Dolly's reputation Q score and her popularity by associating with Meghan Markle. They knew that this ask was just to give Megan credibility in this lifestyle space, a space that Dolly does have a lot of credibility in and Dolly declined. So this is all like sad day for Megan. Sad but I also have to take the story like with a grain of salt. Right because how many things have you said no to? It doesn't mean you've like snubbed them. Right who is Kinsey in this to? And it doesn't mean you've like snubbed them. Right, who is Kinsey in this world?

Like I don't know what like information she has that is true. But I can imagine a world where Meghan went out to Dolly Parton like to come on her show cause that's just a good idea. And Dolly saying no. However, I don't think it's because Dolly's as spineless as this makes it seem like. I just don't think that makes complete sense for her.

But I think if Dolly liked Meghan, she would be like, I don't care what's popular or not. Like, I support you. I will publicly support you. I just think she didn't want to. Did they say that Dolly didn't want to risk her reputation going on with Meghan's? And they, yeah.

I don't think that's how Dolly operates. Like, I think Dolly's good name is intact. I think she could do what she wants in support, causes that she or people that she believes in. And I think she's been around for so long. Her reputation can't really be tarnished at this point. No, for sure. She's pretty solid.

If she wants to go on a podcast, she can go on a podcast. But I do think Megan's probably having a tough time getting people on. Have you heard of anyone good recently? I don't know what's up coming for season two, but on the first season she had Mindy Kaling. Okay. probably having a tough time getting people on. Have you heard of anyone good recently? I don't know what's up coming for season two, but on the first season she had Mindy Kaling. Okay. But I also think the show shouldn't have

that many celebrity guests. So I didn't expect there to be more, but she does have like a lot of friends in her community and now she's friends with Gwyneth. That would be nice if she went on, but. I would love that. I think that they, it's an easy way to get publicity and like love for your show

by having beloved celebrity guests. However, like I just don't think it's a plan for longevity. Like if you're gonna have a fire cooking show, like it needs to be fire with who a member is on. Yeah, but not everyone can be Jackson Claude. You guys have that star power. We do have that. No, we just have like the, I don't know,

the consistency of like not needing a guest, but a lot of people like need guests. Their whole show revolves around guests. It's not like something to be ashamed of, but I think for what she's doing, it's not a guest-based show. I don't want so-and-so teaching. She had a chef come out and like teach her how to cook.

I don't want to watch that. I just want you to cook and talk to me, not your friend who I don't know. Yeah. I... Did you watch the show? No, I didn't. But the nice thing about listening to the toast

is you feel like you've watched a lot of shows without actually needing to put in the time. So I get the summary, I get the clips, and you know, you scroll through TikTok, you get the synopsis. And a lot of times I feel like I've watched the whole show before I ever even watch it. So like between you guys breaking down the trailer and all of that, I'm like, all right,

I've got the gist. I'm good to go. I'm catching up on Secret Lives of Mormon Wives right now. So good. But I'm like, I feel like I've already seen it. I've got, you know, I've got the gist. I feel like we haven't even recapped it that in depth. No.

But stay tuned for later this week because we have a big Secret Lives recap. I just wanna say, that's all I'll say. If you've been looking for a Secret Lives recap, stay tuned for this week is all I'll say. Watch this space. Sometimes I feel like, okay, I've already seen the, I've got the point. I've already seen the show enough

just from listening to the toast, but then I actually watch and I'm like, no, this is. Crazy, but also sometimes we tell you you have to watch something and I hope that you're doing your homework. Yeah, yeah, and it's like- Like watching Sleepover, have you rewatched it recently? I've not rewatched, but Yancey is my icon.

I do need to rewatch that. How does one rewatch Sleepover? Oh, it's definitely on Amazon Prime. Okay. Or just like Amazon and you have to buy it, but it's like- That would be a great rewatch. It's worth every, okay. It stands the test of time.

I'll watch it on my flight after this. So like we let you know when you need to watch something. But it's worth every. That would be a great rewatch. Okay. It stands the test of time. I'll watch it on my flight after this. So like we let you know when you need to watch something. You know what show I'm watching? I'm curious if you're watching it. Probably not. Good Friends and Neighbors, the Jon Hamm show. No, I watched the trailer though and thought about watching it.

So I have been watching it. I'm like, I don't know, maybe on episode eight. It just, the first season just ended. So I will get cut off, but I am speed reading for the Redheads right now. And that's just taking up all of my free time. And I'm really enjoying the show. It's like a good scripted show.

It's not amazing, but it's good. Yeah. And it's pargy too. It's like a nice scene. That was on my list. The storyline was, it was interesting. I was like, huh. I just don't know where it's gonna go.

Yeah, yeah. How much they could do with it. That was kind of after watching the trailer, that's where interesting. I was like, huh. I just don't know where it's going to go. Yeah. Yeah. That's how much I could do with it. Kind of after watching the trailer, that's where I was kind of like, I don't know how much they can do with this, but it would be fun. But yeah, right now, slummel is taking up my content plate and I'm loving it. I'm loving it. I'm jealous of you. I'm jealous of anyone who has. I feel like it's better than the first season. It is. I, I'm like, love Taylor still love all the girls. But I do feel like it's better than the first season. It is. I love Taylor still, love all the girls,

but I do feel like, yeah, there's, I feel like my opinions on some of them have changed. Yeah, which is what keeps it interesting. Right, exactly, and I feel like they're still putting it all on the table, which I respect, I could never do that, like doing ketamine therapy while being recorded, that is. Have you done ketamine therapy?

I have not. What is it? And if I ever did, I think it's, I don't know. I mean, I think it's something that they use to treat. I'm not the right person to ask that. I was gonna say trauma for PTSD. Yeah, I saw them do it on the show, but what does it entail?

And some people do it often. Yeah, I think you can it on the show, but what does it entail? And like, some people do it often. Yeah, I think you can like maybe do different cycles of it to like work through something, but it seemed like it was just a super emotional experience, but I would never want that recorded. Yeah, but I think like they've all just signed this contract with each other and themselves and their partners being like, we're going to put our entire lives on the show. Like this is our chance at stardom. Like this could set us up for the rest of our lives. And they're doing a really good job of it.

They are. And you have to like respect that they are just willing to bear it all. I respect it so much. I mean, they are not holding back anything. I really hope I never have to hear someone say dry humping ever again. That's something I do not wanna hear

come out of a grown man's mouth. Yeah. But I love that they just put it all out there and they yeah they I could never do it so I have so much respect for them. Yeah and like when people do that they really deserve all the all the positive things that come with like. And I think they will like I feel like Taylor is I mean she's already a star but I think she's she's got a bright future ahead. I agree. Our fourth story, some exciting Sabrina news, because Sabrina Carpenter is bringing booty shorts to the next level in a Not Safe for Work new music teaser

and billboards around town. So rumors are swirling, whispers that Brieener is going to be dropping new music. She has some billboards in her classic Serena style. One of them says, Man Child. So all of this is equaling maybe a new single coming out called Man Child, probably about Barry Kiyogan. And there's a video she posted to her Instagram

of her trying to hitchhike and cute little booty shorts. So I feel like we're getting a single and a music video. And we kind of need that. We do. Even though she's like, she kept us fed. She has. But I guess there's like a kind of a dearth in the pop space. I feel like right now, like the pop girl is going off. It's like Tate McCray and Addison.

It's not doing it for me personally. But I'm also old. Yes. OK. Same. I think we need some new Sabrina. Tough time to be Barry, I think. Well, he did what he did.

He did what he did. He had it all, he had it made in the shade. He really fumbled. I hate to admit this on air, but there was a time when I was like, I kind of get the Barry hype. When you watch Salt Bae? Yeah, Salt Bae.

Salt Bae. I was like, okay, I can see it. you watch Salpe? Yeah, Salpe. Salpe. I was like, okay, I can see it. You watched the movie. Yeah, I did. Did you? No. Yeah. It was interesting.

It was entertaining. So you thought he was like handsome. No, I just, I don't even know if I would go so far as to say handsome. But like he had something. Yeah, like I was like, okay, I see it. Like they're cute together. Like there were some maybe more flattering

like clips of him on the red carpet. And I was like, okay, I kind of get the hype. And now I'm just like so icked out by him. He just gives off like little rap boy energy. And I just, but you know, I feel like I can be so easily swayed. Like I feel like with Timothy, at first was just like,

Yeah, little rap boy. Yeah, little rap boy. And then, Rap boy is in, last summer was like rap boy summer. Did you see that? I think it's rap boy 2025. I think so too, because of Timothy. Yeah, because of Timothy.

But he's not being rat like. No, no, no, he's giving King energy. But I will say I put him into that category at first and then I saw Dune I think that is where he comes from. He does he has He is the elk of a rat boy But he's now going on to bigger and better things. He's rat King. He's rat King. Isn't that in like the Nutcracker? There's like a rat King. That's what I was like, where is that from? That's a real thing the rat King I'm seriously cracking up. We've read the Nutcracker back and forth so many times.

That's a book? Oh, yes. It's in everything, but we read the book. And some versions call it the Mouse King, some it's the Rat King. Was it a book first before it was a musicale or a ballet? Well, so first it was a story, and then it was put to music by Tchaikovsky.

Okay. So it's like two separate things. But some the girls, Maria, some she's in Clara. There's a lot of things. I think it gets lost in translation from the original Russian. I have to Google it whenever I see it. My niece is a ballerina, so I frequent the Nutcracker.

And every time I'm like, what's happening? It's a tough watch, but. It is, I don't understand. Like the whole thing is a dream. And the two Maria and fronds like are Not that no, that's her brother Maria and the nutcracker who turns into the prince Yes, are eight years old like on a world tour Yeah, and then she wakes up and then I'm like which parts the dream which one's real do we yeah, but back to Timmy

He he did grow on me. I once I saw Dune. I was like, okay, I get the hype I okay. Yeah, like I'm not that I was like, okay, I get the hype. Okay. Yeah, like, and not that I'm like, oh my gosh, he's so attractive. He's still giving Rat King energy, which is not my type, but I'm so happy for him. But I was like, okay, I get the hype. And that's kinda how I felt about Barry for a little bit.

Got it. But now I'm like, which could happen to Timothy someday. Only if Kylie turns on him. I'll do what Kylie says. But if Kylie turns on him. I'll do what Kylie says. But if Kylie turns on him, then it could be bad. It would be bad. You do not want to hurt our Kylie. Right now he's thriving as king of the rats.

I don't think he'll hurt her. I think even if they break up, it won't be nasty. And I don't think it'll be because like he did her dirty. Watch me be so wrong. I'm seriously wrong about all of like my relationship predictions. Clip it. Clip it. But I think even if they break up,

which I could leave space for the fact that that could happen, even though I don't think it will. You think they're in game? I do. Do you think they'll have a baby together? I do. I really do. Maybe I'm so delusional, but I'm having fun.

I can't believe they're two years going strong. To me, it just feels like it's just been a few months. More in love than ever. More in love, more touchy than ever. Next lingerie. Next lingerie. It all goes back to the next lingerie. Yeah, today's episode of The Toast

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I am. Um, Brooklyn and Nicola are on the cover of Glamour magazine. Photos are pargy, they sat down for an interview with Glamour wide ranging, talking about their wedding. This is all very interesting to me. I didn't read the interview yet, I probably won't. But it seems like we're talking a lot about Brooklyn and Nicola these days.

It seemed to be on like a bit of a press tour. Like a article came out yesterday that they've hired Meghan and Harry's lawyer. I saw that. And then a few weeks ago, we reported they went to dinner with Meghan and Harry. I think those are like two things that they shouldn't do. Yeah, what would they need their lawyer for?

Because I understand with Harry and Meghan, they're much more family tied up, but what would they need a lawyer for? Yeah, I don't know. Is it like, we want this money from the family or? They hired the lawyer to do what? Let's see. Oh, Daily Mail subscription.

Nope. Pass. You know what, I'm going to go with my tried and true, page six. OK. They hired UK lawyer Jenny Afia, who You know what, I'm gonna go with my tried and true, page six. Okay. They hired UK lawyer, Jenny Afia, who is a partner at a firm to help them with their reputation management. A source tells page six that they were fed up

with so much shipping written about them. A second source said, sort of sad to see these desperate and unnecessary. Okay, that's someone's opinion. So I guess reputation management, like crisis PR, which Megan and Harry also did. Splitting from the family management or something. Right, like how do I leave my family

and keep all my money? For kids, yeah. Which I was like, is this a thing, which I could see maybe with the Royals, but like. Divorce for kids is a thing if you're under 18, but like Brooklyn's a grown man, if he doesn't wanna go home, he doesn't have to. But more like, yeah, divorcing from the family.

Like if there was something about like money being tied up or. No, it seems to be just about like reputation and like being able to probably sue people who are writing negative stuff about them. Now they're on the cover, so. I don't feel like people are writing negative stuff about them. I feel like them not going to the dad's 50th birthday

is like the nail in the coffin. Yeah, that was a statement. You don't miss your dad's 50th birthday. I also feel like this cover, they're really, as much as they hate them, wanting to be Victoria and David Beckham in this. And there's so many images. He obviously looks like his dad, but she's just a gorgeous supermodel like his mom.

So gorgeous. The most gorgeous in the room. She has dark hair right now, like Victoria did, with their, it looks like an old Calvin Klein kid. It looks very 90s, it's very David and Victoria. So it's just funny that they wanna separate them from them while also wanting to skin and wear them. But I do feel like 90s, like denim is just kind of classic.

Yeah, yeah, no, you can make that argument. But this just feels like we're the new David and Victoria. Yeah, yeah. It's big shoes to fill. Yeah, it's big shoes to fill Yeah, I wouldn't endeavor to do it. I would not but when you are the kids of Them that's kind of I feel like they'll always be compared to them. You know what I mean a beautiful woman You're always gonna be and does she have a beauty brand? No She's like an actress and producer. Okay, got it.

The pictures, the other pictures from the shoot are really beautiful as well. It's just like a random time for them to be doing PR together. But I feel like it all actually, like this sort of dignifies all of the rumors and the fact that they're hiring someone to deal with their reputation. Like I feel like they're trying to push forward as a couple and it's like, it's not giving for me.

Yeah, so- You know, I love them as a couple. I just want them to like forward as a couple and it's like, it's not giving for me. Yeah, so- You know, I love them as a couple. I just want them to like stop and go home and call his dad and say happy birthday. I know, it is really sad, but we don't know what happened on the scenes. But so there's nothing there.

Are they promoting something? They were just on the cover. I don't know. I would have to read the article to find out. And I don't know that I will, because like I said, I'm speed reading for the right book right now. What book are you guys reading right now? Seven and a Half Deaths of Evelyn Hardcastle. And it's like very, it feels like a Julian Fellowes show.

Any relation to like seven? No, no, no. Like literally, I could say. It's the seven and the Evelyn and... You could say like, oh, the author copied the title. When I tell you this author has never heard of Evelyn. Oh, okay. Because just it's literally set like 1920s British countryside.

It's like a Julian Fellow's movie in a book. It's a murder mystery too. And I just know that if you ask him who's Evelyn Hugo, like he would have no idea. When I first chose it, of course, and maybe even the title it was like interesting to me because it reminds me of Evelyn Hugo, but these two things could not be more different,

unfortunately, though the book is, I can't say it's bad because it's a good book. It's like the mystery just keeps unraveling. It's so layered, but it's just like, it's a serious book. I wasn't expecting that. I've listened to, or I've read a few of the Redhead books. Maybe, what was the one about? Where she goes to the hotel? We're like Nantucket. Yeah, wedding people. I read that one.

There are a couple other ones that I've read. But yeah, that one doesn't really seem like it's up my alley. Well, we'll see. I haven't finished it yet. And I feel like the ending is going to be like we've been working towards a big ending. And if the payoff is good, you might hear me saying something different on the episode. Let's get into Dear Toasters because we need to help the girlies out. We have some really great submissions today. Dear Toasters is our weekly advice segment.

If you want advice from Jackson friends or Jackson Claude, when she's back right into dear toasters at gmail.com or head over to our website and submit your quandary. It will all be anonymous. The website is automatically anonymous. And if you do email us, like we will never share. It's not even on my dot like we details out the window. Thank you to everyone who wrote in. Let's start with our first one.

Hey, Jackson friends. I found myself in a bit of a dilemma and I need the help of my favorite swirlies. I'm a freshman in high school and the adjustment has been very difficult for me. I've always been a positive and outgoing girly, but coming into high school, I have shut myself off and I now lack any real close friendships

which I have never struggled with before. I listen and look up to you guys so much. So I'll take whatever advice you guys have to heart. Thank you so much. Oh, this really touches my heart. First of all, I love that you are in high school and you're a toaster. Like that means the world.

I've actually been here myself. I don't know if you listened to our Patreon episode when we talked about our childhood and growing up and how I switched high schools in the middle of high school and I had a really hard time making friends. And like, I literally had to apply myself to making friends. And it's just sort of the thing where at least for me like I had to just disassociate and like pretend to be

someone that I was not like an outgoing not shy person and get her done. It was so hard to do and it definitely like made me stronger as an individual and just put yourself out there and I feel like in those moments, I'm just like, okay, I'm not me. I'm just a person who is a gonna make a friend right now. And I feel like you could find different ways to connect with people, like big hobbies that you have, like maybe joining some clubs or if you have certain subjects that you really like, like finding people in classes that you connect with. But I feel like you shouldn't feel bad that it's more of an effort for you than it's ever been before or more of an effort than it seems to be for other people. Yeah I high

school is such a tricky time but I also feel like there's so many options this is such a wholesome dear toaster. It's so wholesome and we need to help her. I just want to give her a hug through the phone. But you still have so much time ahead of you. And I feel like there's so many ways to get involved in high school that are just like low stakes, like sports, clubs. I don't know. There's so much. And I do think that, like you said,

you just have to make a choice to put yourself out there. Like put your head down. You just have to do it. Yeah. It's gonna be uncomfortable. It's gonna be awkward, but you just gotta. Like go up to a group or two girls or one girl be like, hey guys, how are you?

Like I know it sounds like seriously cringe. Like I wanna die, but that's what it takes. If it's not happening naturally. And like for some people it's easier to make friends or they don't have to think about it or they have childhood friends or family friends. They have like built in friends, but it's not like that for everyone.

And also realize that other people are feeling this way, not just you. And like someone, you might go up to someone and say hi, and like it will make their day and you don't know what they're going through. So just sort of see it from like a bird's eye view of like, you're not, it's not like everyone has their amazing friends and you're a friendless person,

even though that's how it feels. Yeah, I think everyone in high school is insecure and looking for friends, looking for their identity. So even though you might feel like, oh, I'm the only one who doesn't have friends or I'm shy or I've just turned in on myself, there's so many other people who feel that way. And I think people are much more receptive than you think.

I mean, you could even start your own club. Like, and invite people to join. People love, I don't know, I did that in high school. I started a club. What club? It was a fundraiser for Haiti because there was, this was like 2011. There was all this damage from the hurricanes in Haiti.

So I started this club and we would like do different, we would like make baked goods and sell them. And it was so random, but it was so fun. And like, I didn't necessarily do it to like make friends, but that's like a random example. But there was like a club I was in where we would play like, what's that? Banana grams game?

Banana grams, yeah. Claudia was in a club like that. She loved that. It was so random, but there's so much you can do in high school. Yeah, there are so many ways to get involved. And even if someone else is having a fundraiser, like if it's something that you want to be a part of,

like that is a great way to meet people. Like you have to get people's phone numbers and connect and send them stuff. And like, it just keeps you busy. And then you're like, oh, and- Yep, and she said she's a freshman? I have this network, yeah. Okay, well, I am a terrible singer,

but when I was a sophomore, I joined show choir and like they let anyone in. Like I didn't even have to audition. But like what I'm saying is it's not too late even as a sophomore, you know, like you can do something new as a sophomore or a junior. You don't have, it's not like, Oh, I missed my freshman year. So now I'm like locked into this. It's like, you can try something new as a sophomore.

And I met so many people through that and I was awful, but it was so fun. Yeah, don't give up. Like you can do it. It takes a little bit of hard work, but it will be worth it. And we are rooting for you and we've all been there. Next up, hey Swirlies,

my boyfriend and I have been together for almost three years now. Our relationship is very healthy and thriving and he is seriously such a P-Jom. Our plan is to get engaged next year and married the following. However, I have one aspect of this future with him that I have trouble getting over. It's finances. He thinks we should have separate bank accounts and deal with our own finances individually.

I completely disagree and want to take more of a joint approach with shared accounts. I stopped bringing up the topic because I don't think I can change his mind. I trust him, but like what if he wants to bend it secretly? Is this going to be used against me someday? What should I do? Is this a deal breaker? Thank you in advance. Love ya. Tricky. So I know some people who do the separate bank accounts.

We've never done that and from the start, but also we got married so young. Like we were 22. like what money were we? Combined right you know what I mean, but like I actually really like that. I feel like it set us up for a really good foundation So I don't know I could this is only coming from my perspective of only ever having a shared bank account I just I could see so many ways that this could yeah I don't even know what's scary if he has like all this money And he's spending it and like he's not sharing with you or if he has all this money and he's spending it and he's not sharing it with you or if he has all this debt and he's hiding it from you.

Is he hiding good stuff or bad stuff? Yeah, and who's making more money right now? I don't know, maybe she's better off keeping it separate if that's the case. Yeah, I wouldn't just assume, maybe you don't want any part of his finances. Yeah, keep it separate. I wouldn't just assume it's like he's going off spending

and doesn't want you to know about it, but we do a fusion of both of these things. So we each have separate accounts, but we have a joint account that we each put the same amount in. And we use it for like joint ventures. Maybe you could suggest a little combo. Yeah, a little combo.

The combo has worked for us. Cause then also you get to have like your personal freedom. If I want to get a little something, I'm getting myself a little combo. The combo has worked for us. I love that. Because then also you get to have your personal freedom. If I want to get a little something, I'm getting myself a little something. Yeah. I will say that there could be a lot of fights that come from having a joint account. I mean, when we first got married,

I came into the relationship with debt from college. And we were on a really strict budget. And I remember my husband would check in on me and be like, what did you spend for $2.33 at Target? And I was like, I was picking up donuts for my coworkers. And I felt like I had all these tabs. And he's a numbers guy, he's a finance guy. And that was kind of what we needed at the time.

So it was fine, and we're good now. But it was very stressful. So maybe it's better to keep it separate. I don't know. I think there's probably so many different opinions on this, but I like the combo idea. It's yeah, I've not like had like an issue with it. I enjoy it.

Like, so if you want to buy yourself like a Chanel bag. Yeah, now I can do whatever. You do it from your joint account. Yeah, but like we're both putting money in there. Right, right, right. Now, if I was going to make a very large purchase, I would probably be like, hey. Heads up.

Just a heads up, here's some thoughts. But like at this point, we've been married for so long. Like I also kind of know what is worth mentioning, like what that dollar amount is. So I'm not gonna go buy a new car or something without talking about it first. But I have financial freedom to do the things I want to do. But I think it also just depends on everyone.

And everyone's work situation. Are you both working? Right, it's only one person working and so it's their money technically and then you are just beholden to how they want to deal with it. I do think even if he wants to keep things separate, there should be a conversation where you at least see everything. Put all the cards on the table.

Are you in debt? How much are you making? Let's at least be transparent about it before you get married to this guy that maybe he's got a gambling addiction or something. Yeah, and I imagine she has a job if they're not married and she's not living off of him as his girlfriend.

But yeah, also making sure that you can both put a agreed upon amount into a joint checking, like that he's good for that. And whatever else he has or doesn't have, like, okay, that's your problem. Yeah, I do think money causes like the most fights in marriages, or it's one of the things that causes the most fights. So my advice would be to-

It's tricky, so I get- I wouldn't just be like, oh, he's a P-Jom, it's all good. Like I would- But I also wouldn't be like, he's hiding something, he's a deal breaker. Like it's a tricky subject. Yeah, and really get to the bottom of why does he want to keep it separate?

Like is it because he doesn't want someone keeping tabs on him or I don't know. But I do think it's something worth getting to the bottom of. Yeah, I agree. And you have to. And I think if he's a P-jam, and like you said, like everything about him is perfect.

Like this is an obstacle that you can overcome. Yeah, and I do think it also maybe could be coming from his parents or like pressure from someone being like, hey, don't come by the bank accounts. Someone had like a bad experience, but every couple's different. So you guys have to find what works for you. Just talk it through.

And you know what, maybe you'll want to keep things separate so you can buy things on your own. Yeah, cause you don't want to deal with what he's going on, which is not pargy. Yep. Who knows? You never know. Next, I am divorced out of a toxic, verbally and emotionally abusive marriage. Glad to be away from the situation and hope to deal with my ex as little as possible.

My mother refuses to remove our wedding picture from her house. Every time I visit, I have to see the picture and I hate it. It's not like it's a family picture. She has other pictures from that day that she could display. It's just my ex husband and I in the photo. I'm about to boycott visiting if that picture is there. It's front and center when you walk in. What would Turtee and Jax do?

And Kathleen, it personally gives me the major ick and ruins my day. That is so off. So weird. I would knock it to the ground and break it and then be like, oops, garbage. Yeah, I would just go in, swap out the photo, go to a photo shoot for yourself.

It's like, have you tried changing the photo to a different one that you like? Yeah, she's not gonna- Does it resurface every time it regenerates and it's still the picture of you and your ex? I don't think she's tried yet. You need to take matters into your own hands. Of course it's upsetting that your mom

wouldn't want to take down this picture of this now. Stranger, like irrelevant person who hurt you, that's a different issue. But if we just want to tackle the issue of having to see the photo, get rid of it. Yeah, you have two options. You either go in and draw like devil horns. And like, ruin your picture frame.

Yeah, exactly. Or you hire a photographer, do a pargy photo shoot. Or like, no, sure you want like, solo bridal shots from that day. Exactly. You don't even have to go into all that effort. Cause I'm sure she just wants a picture of you. She feels like this is a special moment

that I want on display, but this is not okay. And I would want nothing to do with any of those wedding photos if I were in your situation. So yeah, either vandalize it to get your point across or swap it out with a portrait. Swap it out, passive aggressive, even though definitely there's an underlying issue of like her not being able to let go of this marriage or...

Which is, that's really sad. Which is really sad. It's time to let it go. Yeah, but let's just start with the picture. And it was obviously not a good divorce. Obviously. It was traumatic. So it's time to let it go.

You can steal it. Here's the thing. She's not going to know how to reproduce that that photo my mom calls me anytime she needs to print something at her EBS she's like how do I upload a file how do I how does anyone print a photo it's it's tough and they're always grainy I mean it's it's not an easy process so the good thing is she will not know how to replicate that photo so you're safe I totally agree Get her done and then deal with the obvious larger underlying issues at a later date.

Talk to her about that and just tell her that it's time to let go. Agreed. Well, that's your toasters. I think we've really helped out the swirls. Kathleen, thank you so much for joining me today. Thank you for having me. This has been an absolute pleasure.

Where can everyone follow you? I'm Kathleen Post on Instagram, TikTok, all the places. And I'm just here for the girlies. I share my outfits. So cute. I'm just here to help. You look adorable today and every day. We match in our brown.

Yeah, your content is really pargillish, fashion girlie. So check it out. And we will be back. This was so fun. Thank you for having me. Oh my god, anytime. We'll be back tomorrow with another wonderful episode. We love you.

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