The Toast - I Love Your Cloud, Knicks: Tuesday, June 9th, 2026

Episode Date: June 9, 2026

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It's Jackson, Claude and neighbor show the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off, swirly. It's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy Tuesday. More like happy Lose Day because we're just, yeah, I came up with that like on the fly. Just got credit for that. We're a bunch of losers.

Oh, turdy. How's it going? There's so much going on and I haven't really wanted to spoil it because I'm vlogging the whole thing for Patreon, but like I had this big plan. I was surprising Ben yesterday with tickets. I literally got priced out, like me and my measly budget, like could not cut it whatsoever. Did you put the budget in the vlog, like I said? Jackie wants me to be transparent, but like the thing is I don't believe in pay transparency.

Like people on the internet are always like, you have to tell everyone how much you pay and run and how much you made a money. Like no bitch, I fucking don't. Like I subscribe to the old school philosophy of money. No, you don't. It's none. That's how much money I make. None yeah.

I'm not asking you how much money you make. I just like, it's interesting. the ticket. Everybody knows the tickets are so expensive. So I'm like, are you going to share the dollars and send? I will, okay, fine. I'll share it on the vlog. On the vlog. I haven't in the vlog yet because you know like, you didn't, you didn't even buy them so no one can even judge you. I know, but everyone is going to judge me because they're like, your cardboard, you're like, your cardboard. And it's like you're just cosplaying cardboard because you're over here considering spending five figures. Like, she's cardboard, but she's in love with her husband.

Yeah. I selfishly, like, one, I want to go to. I have to get a father's a gift. And this is literally the only thing in the entire world that he wants. It is the only thing. So we're working on tickets for Wednesday. It's all in the vlog. Hopefully the vlog ends with us at the game. Like the whole is like, okay, so you still might drop five figures. Yeah. The whole vlog is like, we're going. We're not going. We're going. So nothing's happened in the vlog yet, except for just like, you know, turdy and BSC. Which is why we're there, which is why we're in the vlog. We didn't go last night, but we went to like a pargy viewing party, a crane club. You know, it was like very elite.

Oh, not us sitting next to former mayor Eric Adams. Like, it was seriously elite. Oh, I was like sad for him that he wasn't at the game. You know, he would love that. He would love that. But of course, he can't be at the game. He'll be at like the most pop-in watch club, watch party at the members club. The most star studded one.

Yeah. He was there, you know, he did not look up from his phone for one second. I was like, what is going on in your phone? Like, watch the TV. He should have been at the game. I know. I was wondering why he wasn't. him and like he's a loser but like he's our loser. I genuinely like I miss him so much.

Of course. You really like don't know what you have until it's gone. And I think that's sort of like the general feeling with this like turt mayor. Like he was a crazy mayor but he was our mayor. He was our crazy mayor. And like, oh speaking of crazy mayors, you do see Mike Bloomberg like literally getting tackled at the game last thing? I did. Oh my God. Like there was so, first of all, it was a buzz with celebrities. I can't believe I wasn't there. Like I'm like whatever. I know. But Kylie wasn't there. So like it was obviously like not the one for the cool girls. Yeah, it's true.

Maybe the cool like billionaire bombshell are going on Wednesday. Let me tell you. Kylie will be at the next one because Timothy is going to start to see her as the good luck charm. Good luck charm. And also, um, and this is obviously like spoken like somebody who couldn't afford to get in. But like when I was seeing videos of all the street closures because Trump went. So they had to create like a secret service bubble. They closed five blocks east and west in Midtown.

if you had a ticket, first of all, you had to, like, show your ticket to the barricade, walk three avenues. Like, it looked like a nightmare logistically. So, yeah, I'm glad I didn't go for that reason. I also got home at midnight. Like, I'm so tired. I can't keep up with this. I need the finals to end.

Games that start at 845, like, excuse you get you. I'm a mother and a business owner. Like, it's not cool. No, it's really late and it's kind of a bummer, like, for the kids, because I would love to have them watch some of the game. But to start at 845, like then it's just so late. And I did watch, so I watched the beginning of this. the game. I watched the anthem, which was just so beautiful. We have to talk about the anthem.

So when they said the guy who's singing the anthem name, I'm like, oh wow, they couldn't get like a bigger name. It's such a big concert. And I know he's like big on Broadway, but like it's very niche New York, which I guess is the point. Oh my God, never been more wrong. I had chills. Like, let me tell you that's up there with the greats. Like it was insane. It was so amazing. His name is Avery Wilson. He's in the Whiz. Avery Wilson. He plays the Scarecrow in the Wiz. Go check it out. When they said he was in the Wiz, I was like, oh, it's going to be good. And then I said, oh, okay, that's why it's someone that we don't know. It's like someone from Broadway and New York's going to New York.

But like Tori Kelly was doing it at the last game. Like I thought we were getting like pop stars. But you know what? I've never been happy to be more wrong. Yeah. They never go the obvious route, the NBA. Yeah. I'm just like I'm sat for who's doing it tonight.

Like where's Jessica Vosk? You know, if we're sticking with the Broadway theme. I think we're trying to highlight, you know, New York City or Broadway. Let's do that. I love that. Yeah. He was incredible. Like I had chills the whole time.

Yeah. So I started watching the game. And I was like, okay, there's going to be a lot of this. Like, I'm going to go. I watch Love Island. Then I came back to the game. And I watched, like, probably from like 10, 15 to 11, but it was just getting very stressful. It was.

And I was feeling like, you know what? I preferred it when I would just wake up to good news. Like, I don't want to be in the weeds here. I feel like I feel like I shouldn't be watching because like the one time I'm watching they're losing. Like, I should just go back to my whole. You think it's your fault? Like a little bit, yeah.

So I watched with Ben and his crew. of like yellow belly brunson boys. They take it so seriously. And I will say like if I was anybody else in the establishment, like I would have like hated them. They were just like acting like they were in the arena. I'm like, you guys were at like a nice place.

Can you stop? They were like, rough, that's a foul. Like being so fucking crazy. And like, time out, time out. I'm like, we're in a restaurant. Like you can't talk like that. And I hate to me one of those people because I find like when I'm watching sports

and then the next day I hear people like complaining about the calls. Like it's like, well, your team lost and like you played worse. So I will say like our team lost and we played worse, but the odds were stacked against us. Like the refs genuinely giving deftum and blind. Like it's so crazy. In the second half, like the Webiniamas had 24 free throws and the Knicks had eight, which means like only, you know, four fouls got called versus like 12. 24 divided it. Thank you.

Just like, and like Jalen Brunson got like dead ass punched in the head and like nothing. And then Jailen Brunson like touched someone's shoulder and it was a flagrant foul. So I hate to be like a ref complainer because it is. is giving sore loser like you stink. And it's like, I am a sore loser. The Knicks played poorly. I'm holding space for two things. That's true while also like it was totally rigged.

They don't want the Knicks to sweep because they can't get the ad dollars. Yeah, they don't. They need that dollars. You know I always say that. You're right. Why have four games when you could have seven? That's three more games.

That's hundreds of millions of dollars in advertising revenue. So the next game is on Wednesday. So now the series is two to one. The first person to four wins. The next game is in New York. And then the next ones are back in Oklahoma. What?

Were they? San Antonio. Yeah, thank you. That's in Texas. Yes. She's from Texas. I can sail by the way. Also, like,

he's to step in around the room. Not to promote violence, like, because violence is never the answer. But don't they just need to like take out Webbenyama. You mean like injure? Yeah, because it's the Knicks versus Webbingyama. So, you know, I was analyzing this game with Ben today because like I'm literally now like a girl who watches sports.

and loves beer. And I also, my sister, Margo came last night and she drank a beer. She actually got a beer. And she like, in a non-ironic way.

And like, what were you doing? You were probably looking like so in authentic. Yeah, I know. I was like, I thought we're having cocktails.

I ordered like a tequila with lime juice. Margo was like, what's your like light beer? She got like a Stella. And like this is a crazier part. Was that like all, because it was just me,

Margo and like all of Ben's friends. All of Ben's friends were like really inspired. Because they got like cocktails and they were inspired by Margaret. They're like, you know what that looks good. I'll also have a Stella. And then they had Stella for the rest of the night.

Were you seething? Were you okay? That's your dream. I know. Like so not like other girls. That's your dream. So I said to Ben this morning, it's really not, by the way,

like the team versus Webbenyama. If I was that tall, I just want to say I don't think he's that good. And maybe this is my only, like my first, I've only seen him play three games. But I've been wholly uninspired by him. And if he wasn't that tall,

like he wouldn't be that good. Like his skills are not exceedingly amazing. He's just tall and a good player. know what I mean? He's not like the best player ever who's also tall. Like if LeBron James was that tall, like we'd be having a different conversation. Sorry, he's not LeBron James. Based on what I've seen. Okay.

So even if he weren't on the team, like they would still maybe win. No, they do have an unfair advantage because like he's just there. You know, like it's literally like a wall. Like at a certain point you can't get a shot off. Yeah, except that it's actually not like that. Like I thought it would just be moot. Like you're trying to play against like a giant. It's really like not.

He's not that good. You have to score the points when the Giants not there when he's still trailing from behind. I just want to say, like, shout out to that other guy in the team castle who's like literally so good. And all he does is live in Victor Webbenyama Shadow. Like, it's like, Victor, this, web me that, when be this, when be that?

And it's like, what about Castle who's like literally doing the most? Also, everyone on this team is like 21, 22 years old, which is like also not fair. Whatever, we're not letting it get us down. Because they're just like younger and sprightlier and, like, have so much energy. But, you know, with age. A lot of the Knicks are like fathers.

I know, but like you get, better with age to a point and then like there's a sweet spot and it's not 21. No, I agree with that. So the next game is on Wednesday and like it's absolutely imperative that the next win. And I do feel that they will like with the garden and like, you know, it was a lot of pressure of this game like, you know, the record and coming back to New York and the president and the mayor were there. Like I get it.

It's like a part. And they also like have not been playing their best. So I kind of feel like they needed to be humbled, quite frankly, because the last couple of games I thought they played worse but just like happened to have won. And I do feel like through great challenges, like great opportunities arise. Like it's a chance to be great. And I'm kind of glad that they know what it's like to lose now. Like once you only know winning and it's all good, like Ben's friends were so drama in the car ride home.

They were like, oh, I just miss. They talk about it so seriously. They were like, I just miss like when we were like living in a cloud, you know? Oh my God. Because I guess it's been like a dream. Like they haven't lost a game in 12 games. Yeah. So they've had like 12 weeks.

They were taking it for granted. Yeah. And Ben was like, you know, you guys, we were just like living in a cloud. It wasn't real. But they were like, but we love the cloud. Like they were seriously being insane. Oh my God. Yeah.

It was hilarious. Oh, my God. Well, honestly, I hope for the advertisers and for the lore that actually the Knicks win in seven because that would mean they win at the garden, right? So, yeah, game three is at New York. And then they go back for four. Yeah, so three, five, and seven. Wait, the next game is in New York, right? Yeah.

Three and four. Oh, that's four. Four, sorry. Three and four. Five and six in San Antonio, seven. No, no, just five. And then I think they go two there, two here. One here, one there.

So the Knicks and six. So we need Nixon six. I just want them to win like in New York because that would be cool. Right. Game four at Knicks. Game five at Spurs. Game six at Nix. Game seven at Spurs.

So they just alternate now. Nixon six. And that rhymes. I like it. Yeah, Nixon six. Nix and six. Tell Ben, everyone get on it. Or five, like if they want to win in San Antonio, sure. Let's get a couple hundred mil more. 100%. And like, and prolong this feeling.

Yeah, although I will say the city definitely has like a deflated energy to it. Remember yesterday I was like, everyone's walking on a cloud. Well, we're not in the cloud anymore, according to Ben and the Ransom Boys. And you could tell there's just sort of like a weird energy. We feel awkward. Like we hyped up this game. and people spent like literally. I think the minimum get was like probably an average of $6,000 a ticket. And we lost.

That's also a lot of pressure to put on the players. Like working class people put, even though it's not the working class people. I didn't know. I really did not understand like how rich people in New York are until they like they, because it's not like working class people selling their cars. Like it's literally just people who can afford it. Yeah.

It's, I didn't realize like how many rich people lived here or like we're Knicks fans. You're saying the median price was $6,000? I don't know what the statistic is. but yeah. I don't, that sounds low. I don't know. Maybe because I kept seeing like,

you think it sounds low. Yeah, I kept seeing like, I'm talking about average. I know. I kept seeing them like $200,000. Like if you want to go sit in the nosebleeds, it's 10K.

Like people bought tickets like three weeks ago and yeah, it was like a little bit of a spectacle. But as it came down, let's see, Nick's game three ticket average. I do think also this will make Wednesday night's ticket a little cheaper because if it had been. Well, it's not like a final game. Yeah.

Yeah. So that's good for you and the cardboard. The average. The average. The average sold price for a ticket as of Monday morning was $7,600. Wow, those are a good guess by me. So, yeah, that's a lot of pressure too, like people who, like are lifelong Knicks fans, people who saved up for this.

I understand, like, why they buckled under the pressure. So I'll give them this loss, but like, actually, it's just not okay. Yeah, no, I think they're going to come back stronger, really. And it's not like they lost the whole series. Like, it's okay. Yeah, even though if they had won it, like, it would have been over, you know? And it just would have been, like, so iconic. Everyone was like ready for a win. Everyone was ready for a win.

Well, Kylie should, you know, get Kylie Air all fueled up because she's definitely like has something to do with it. I agree. They're like maybe they like seeing her court side. So many celebrities. So many celebrities. Tina Faye and Tracy Morgan. Mm-hmm. Derek Cheater. Derek Cheater. Christopher Maloney and Stabler and Benson. They sat together. Which is like so New York. Oh, I didn't see him. Chris Rock. A lot of like Nick's Legends. Yeah, yeah. A lot of like, like New York athletic legends as well. It was Star-Sedded, but it wasn't like super swirly, I will say. Ben Stiller.

No, it was not, it's never super swirly. Yeah, it's like everyone's excited about all these people and they're not people that excite me. You know, it's like really traditional. Traditional celebrities. This was a lot of businessmen like Robert Kraft. I think Michael Rubin, you know, like the sports billionaires. Yeah.

Not a whole lot of influencers. No, you do hate to see that. That's what I'm there for the influencers. So stay tuned. The blog is coming and hopefully I am too. Like I would love to be there. We will be there Wednesday. Come hell or high water.

We're rooting for you. We don't judge however much you spend. Treat yourself. I judge. I judge. You cardboarded so long for this. You think? Yeah.

But then I think about all the things I could buy like with this. I'm here thinking the tickets are like between 20 and 50 grand. So like 70. They are. But you just said 7600. That's the average price. For like 200 section? I'm sorry, like I need a good seat.

Like, because one thing about me, I like watching on TV. So if my seat in the arena is like so bad that I can't see shit, like that's not worth it to me. I don't need to be in the building. Oh, but Ben does because it's like the spirit. Ben would sit like, well, he wouldn't sit anywhere. But he would, like he's less picky than me. Like I seriously like I need to be courtside. Like I need to see stuff.

I'm short. I don't have amazing vision. Like I need to see it. Because she needs to be courtside. You could go. You could go in the 200 section. It's just like it's insane. It's like five grand for like a shitty seat in the 200th.

And it's by two. It's five grand to be like a part of something. Exactly. Like I'm sure the place looks great last night, you know? Yeah. So you're paying for the energy, really. So all in all, I'm glad that I couldn't get in because I would have spent so much money on a loss and I just would have, I really would have been devastated.

Yeah. Okay, well keep us posted. We're excited. You missed like a pretty crazy episode of Love Island. Did I? Yeah. Like one of the crazier challenges. Do you think you could hold off

Like I'll watch and we could recap tomorrow? Yeah, yeah, I think so. Unless like something comes up that I could put it. But we have so much TV to watch tonight. So I'm like so glad I did my homework class. Summer House. And now Love Island. Oh, okay, that's not that much.

But you have two Love Islands. I'll figure it out. Don't worry about me. Okay. Well, let's get into the stories, shall we? Yeah. Oh, my God. Yeah. Without further a do dat, do that do,

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Story time. Actually, it's not story time. You know what time it is? Summertime? Merch time. Yes. Oh my God, not us being so non-self promotional. That's so us.

You guys, we have a new merch drop dropping. Tomorrow, 10 a.m. Eastern. Yeah, that's right. Jack and I are both wearing the pieces. We're both wearing pieces from the new collection. It's such cute summer stuff. This sweater that Claudia is wearing, it's a quarter-zip, creamy sweater with like a lovely elegant blue toast logo on it.

An emblem. An emblem. I'm wearing an emblem as well. This is a rugby shirt. A rugby shirt. We've sold rugby shirts in the past. They're so beloved. And it's the cutest color for summer.

Oh, my God. The rugby shirts blew off the shelves last time in blue. So now we're doing very gender reveal pink. Everything launches 10 a. Eastern Time shoptoastmerch.com. If you go to our Instagram, you'll be able to see all the pieces that are dropping. We've got our iconic t-shirts coming in two new styles, a yellow

and a blue, sick new designs. I mean, that's the same like iconic, big-ass flowy, postpartum pregnant woman-friendly t-shirt, the one size that truly is one size. We've got quarterships, we've got matching sets, we've got hats. Jackie, in all the photos, I'm wearing a size large and I think you are too, right?

Yes, we were wearing from the same from the same crop. From the same pile. And today I'm wearing extra large. So like if you look more fitted, I would just do your regular size. If you're looking for like a big more cozy vibe, I would size up. The rugby shirts will fly.

Just letting it for one now. Those that you're wearing are going to fly that. I don't know if we've ever done a quarter zip. Not in recent her story. I was actually just going through a bunch of my old merch just organizing my closet. And I didn't see a quarter zip. It's super cute.

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Makehaste.com. While supplies. Slash while supplies last. Okay. Now the stories. First step, Ariana Grande and Ethan Slater have split after three years of dating. Love is dead. So rumors are swirling that Ari and Ethan have broken up and actually they broke up several

months ago, but they've remained friends since then and of nothing but respect and admiration for one another. So I just want to say, like, whenever I said, when was it, like, a couple weeks ago that they were broken up, like, I think they were broken up. I don't know where I had heard that. So maybe you just, like, had a feeling. I don't know if I had a feeling or like I heard it or I just like, yeah, maybe my spiky senses were tingling, but they're broken up and they have been.

I mean, this is so unacceptable. Like, you rip this man from his wife and newborn just to like not even be with him three years later. You're both white trash, quite frankly. I can't talk about the Ethan Slater of it all without having like genuine hate in my heart for Iron Grande and I don't hate her. I actually like her. So like it's hard because what she did is so immoral.

It's so ugly. Lily Jay deserves better. I can't believe that they're not even together. Like the only way this ever would have been okay was if they were together and were buried together like in a hundred years like together forever. That's not like Ari's thing. she's very much Evelyn Hugo.

So, like, this is just disgraceful, like, discussing behavior, discussing people. I don't know. Evelyn Hugo, like, didn't do stuff like this. Sorry, yeah, not the disgrace. Evelyn Hugo would never. Like, you sort of, like, glamorize her just, like, you know, discarding individuals,

but it's not glamorous. It's, it's... Well, she had her own reasons. I don't want to spoil the book for, you know, why she had seven husbands. Yeah, and also some of them, like, were, like, it was, you know, they were relationships. But this is just, like, seems like,

like a pattern for Ariwears. it's like, okay, so then what next? Yeah, well, like, I hope Ethan Slater, I hope he regrets what he did for like a very long. I hope this haunts him genuinely until the day he dies. I don't think it does. I don't think he was ever going to, like, not pursue Ariana Grande, have given the chance,

because, like, really. Once in a lifetime. Yeah, for a guy like him, like. Yeah. And I know, like, Bowen Yang went on a press tour, like saying that the timelines were like, it's so much better. than what people say and Ari just let everyone.

I want to say, based on things that I know, it's worse than what the internet thinks. Like, I had heard from someone that, like, she was taking the baby on walks. Like, I had heard really disgusting things. Like, so I can't think too much about this because it will turn me into like an Ariana Grande troll hater. I don't want to be that person.

Like, I like her music. I think she's a nice girl. Like, I think she's been through a lot. But, like, I'm sorry. Going through a lot is not, like, an excuse. to steal someone's husband and father. Like, that's insane. Yeah.

And I know it's like, well, it takes two people. She didn't steal him. I'm sorry, when you're like, the power dynamics are not in balance and like you're the biggest star in the world and he's SpongeBob. Like, sorry, you can steal someone's right. Yeah, no, that was a steal from Ari.

This man has no agency. Yeah, exactly. That's so true because a lot of times and I do feel like we blame someone more than the other. And that's not right. He had to freely go. Yeah, he's the one who's attached to Lily. She doesn't know Lily.

He has the responsibility to be loyal to his family inside it's like well yes that's true he's also um incapable of choosing like it wasn't a fair fight yeah no and what are you doing like seriously what are you doing like wooing and it's like oh sweetie sweetie you didn't really think like Ariana was going to be with you forever with three years that's forever for her it is a long time no actually like all of her relationships are long term it's not like three months here three once or she was married like But they're like these big relationships. No, this is a long one.

Like Pete Davidson fell really long, but that was like three months. How long was she married to Dalton for? How long was she with Dalton for? They got married in like COVID, right? And then probably three years ago, they announced their divorce. So that's... Okay, so another three years. Big Sean was like a long-term one.

Mac Miller. No, they feel longer than they are. And she was with Dalton less than two years. And how long were they actually separated before? And yeah, everyone's like, and nobody cares that she, like, cheated on her husband. No, nobody cares about Dalton. Nobody cares. And also, I don't think they were together in a formal capacity.

Objection, relevance. But, yes, technically there was cheating on both sides. Who cares? No, I don't even think there was. Like, just for motherfucking Lily Jay. I am sorry. Yeah, I also think this is, like, a tough spot for Ari because she, her cue score has seriously suffered from all of this.

She has begun to bounce back as people just, like, accept the fact that they obviously love each other. We're together. Now she's trying to do music and her tour again, and this is going to disrupt her likability once again. I don't think it makes her more likable now that the relationship's over. Because it's like you did all that for what? Yeah, and it makes her less likable because now we're talking about it again.

Yep. I guess it was bound to happen whenever. So I understand like the slow rollout of the breakup. Yeah. Maybe like after the tickets were sold to the tour, you know? Me and Bach. Yeah, maybe ticket sales are in a good place. so she feels like she can comfortable soft launching the breakup yeah yeah i can't talk about this too much

because i start to get like a like i really like hate yeah yeah no same but like lily jay i see you i am with you on a day like today and i'm sure this doesn't even feel good for lily jay like it's not what she wanted like it doesn't change anything it doesn't change anything stupid stupid are you ready for our next story Mm-hmm. Video has emerged of Love Island's Huda Mustafa entering the building of her ex-boyfriend's baby mama's home. So we had reported, and everyone was talking about how, you know, weeks ago,

Huda and her boyfriend and ex-boyfriend on off Lewis and his baby mama had filed a restraining order against Huda because she had, like, tried to come to her apartment. And yesterday, video surfaced from the apartment building of one Miss Huda Mustafa. Like the actual incident in. question we got the security tape into the parking garage this is so fucking crazy yeah first i was like what am i watching because there's a car in the video and i'm like oh how did she i thought it was her in the car and i'm like oh man she's so crazy she got someone to open the gate and whatever no no no that was a resident

like going into their garage and as the garage is closing a crazy little woman seeks out from the shadows sneaks out from the shadows runs and like literally like a spy kid rolls under the gate and gets into this woman's and this woman is her boyfriend's ex like the mother of his child's apartment building she's then seen on footage like on the phone like walking fiercely through the garage genuine crazy person behavior yeah crazy person on the loose yeah it's actually like one of those videos you see like you know wanted yeah crazy individual yeah it's unclear why this video's coming out now tm z obtained the surveillance footage showing her making her way into the apartment.

You know, the court stuff is sort of ongoing. If you watch her season of Love Island, not one part of this is shocking. She was a manipulative, and I hate to, like, I don't want to overuse this word, but like quite abusive partner to a Jeremiah. And so that was like a small four-day relationship.

This has been like a long-term real-life relationship. So yeah, this is not surprising. I once again, I feel that my opinions on the previous season of Love Island, like I continue to be rewarded. You know, I never gave into a Maya papaya gate and, like, thought everything she said was cute and funny. I quite honestly didn't understand it. I never thought Huda. I never believed in the Huda redemption arc. Like everyone was like, she's crazy.

Oh, no, she's misunderstood. No, like, I feel good. That she was there from the beginning to the end, like to the very last day. A demented individual. Yeah. Yeah. For everyone, it's crazy that she was still there. And there were so many people like,

inactive partnerships, in active connections with multiple connections who got sent home, like because they didn't want to send her to home. Yeah. And I'm sorry, like, I'll never stand anyone from that season. Even O'Landria, like, everyone's forgotten, but like, Shelly, Elandria, Sierra, all those girls who like would not stop voting other people out. Like, where is the accountability? We need Beah, the accountability police, to get all over that.

No, it's really true. That was so crazy when they sent Hannah home. Oh, Charlie. Charlie. Infuriating. Yeah. All to save Hudson. this crazy bitch.

Yeah, who actually turned out to be crazier than we even knew. Yeah, but it was like, it was just a microcosm of the crazy that lied underneath, the tip of the iceberg. Yeah. Well, are you ready for our next story? Mm-hmm. It's a little biz news, I guess,

because Tom Brady has unveiled his latest post-NFL business venture called Good Nut. Yeah. So Tom Brady has unveiled his latest business venture, a premium coconut water brand called Good Nut. nut. He put out a video that's like very satirical about the name of the drink, Good Nut. And it's organic Vietnamese coconuts in coconut water. Let me tell you, what thing about Tom Brady, like, I'm not going to let him sleep. Like, I can't stand him. Like, I just think he's such a loser.

Having said that, credit where credit is due, I can't remember a time where I've been so dazzled by the name of someone's company. Like, first of all, it's brilliant, right? Because it's coconut. And it's a good coconut. Good night. Good night. Oh, good night. Okay. Yeah.

Good night. I didn't know that good night was in there. Of course, the more cultural. What a nut, you know. Like you had a good nut. Yeah. It's like sexual. Yeah.

Yeah. I love like whatever creative agency, because you know Tom didn't come up with this. Whatever creative agency did like kudos to you. Yeah, but also he seems to be, you know, lightening up a little bit in the stage of his life. Like so serious. You know, like that he.

He's a part of this and this is where he's headed. Yeah. Also, I think like obviously the celebrity beverage space is a popular space to be in. Something new. Coconut water. Love that. Not doing like a spiked seltzer like everybody else. Love that.

Yeah. People love coconut water. We should enter the celebrity hydration space, don't you find? Yes. Oh, well, we are in the celebrity alcohol space, but like the more wellness focused. Mm-hmm. Like, because we're like Tom Brady. Yeah, we're sort of goats of our very specific niche, you know,

which is daily pop culture podcasting, hosted by sisters. Hosted by sisters. Actually, there's not another daily pop culture podcast. So it doesn't even have to caveat hosted by sisters. Is there not? Like the New York Times one, Pop to cast? I've never heard of it. Honestly.

What did you say? So Popcast? No, what's it called? New York Times has like a pop podcast. culture podcast. And I do feel that they are heavily inspired by us. I'm being dead serious. I just had Olivia Rodriguez go on. Oh, I saw clips from it. That's a podcast. That's daily. Yeah. And the weird thing is that like the New York Times is a pop culture podcast, which like, that's just weird. I don't think that like people go to the New York Times for pop culture. And it's hosted by two men. Like two old men. Yeah.

Yeah. It's so strange. And I've no shade against them. I actually think that they do a good job. Like whenever I hear their takes, like they're quite nuanced. I don't know if it's daily. Because you said daily. What is it? It's about music. It's daily? Is it daily? Is it daily? Is it I don't think it's daily. The New York Times has the daily. No, no, you said daily pop culture. What is it, weekly? Weekly, yeah.

Daily pop culture. Daily pop culture. Oh, is chicks in the office daily? No. I think they're like four days a week. Three or four, yeah. Okay. That's us, D.

Daily pop culture. And I don't know, I'd say we veer more on like daily comedy as well. Oh, yeah. Does anybody do daily comedy? I know I chuckle every day. And we're in the comedy category. Does anyone do daily comedy shows? When it comes to just daily shows, it's us in the daily.

The daily. Yeah. No, I don't think anybody else is doing daily. Yeah, they do like four days a week. And I don't know if anyone's doing daily like we are. Well, they could never. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story?

Wait, what was the story? Oh, Tom Brady. Yeah, the stories are very light today. Like, don't feel the need to get bogged down into them. In the story. Just sort of use them as a vessel. Yeah, like, and also I was, it was weird, the stories are light today, even though so much is going on in the world, like the Knicks and Love Island and whatnot. And it's like, so the stories are light.

But let's let the show, like, we don't have to be in this box, you know? Okay. I love that. Like, we can take this thing wherever we want to go. It's true. Every now and then I like remember. Because, you know, I think that the structure of this show, let's go to a set of glance for a moment. I think that the structure of this show like is so important, right?

Yes, yes. what they're going to get, they have expectations and we meet them every time. It keeps us on track and with things to talk about every single day, yes. But every now and then I remember, like we could just fuck shit up. No, like every now and then I can be like, listen, there's three stories I want to talk about today. We have dear toasters. We have Nix at the beginning. Like, we have a show and we don't have to pick two more stories just because.

Yeah. But here I go, just because. It's very inspiring when you think of it that way. Maybe next time I'll shirk. tradition but today i picked two more stories just because so today you're not saying screw tradition no today i'm very traditional we would never say that we actually are quite for like two you know uh modern women we're extremely traditional in our just we're transitional why transitional is like a mix of modern and traditional in like interior design so why can it apply to us as well okay but transitional also means like

changing. We are ever changing. We used to hate kitten heels. Thus, we are transitional. I rest my case. Law is reason free from passion. So who am I? Seriously. Who am I? Are you ready for our fourth story just because? I'm not. Oh, well, should have said so. Right? You should have said so. We have dear toasters, don't we? Yeah, we do. Okay. No, I'm still not ready. Our fourth story is brought to you by Truvia! New sponsor, Trivia alulose plus stevia sweetener with monk fruit sweetener. The familiar taste and performance of sugar,

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It's very nostalgic, emotional, and deeply romantic. I read a lot of Carly Fortune's books, and I will say, like, the general theme is nostalgia. I always cry when I read her books, and I love that they're turning this one into a series. It's a very specific ache of wondering what if, and then finally getting the answer. So if you loved the book, the adaptation is faithful and gorgeous. If you haven't read it, then you'll be really compelled to read it afterwards. We just need a new series, you know? And when it comes to turning books into series and movies, obviously it's a very personal thing,

because we're very attached to these books, and I feel like Prime always does a really good job. So I'm feeling excited. So watch every year after streaming June 10th only on Prime. That's every year after streaming June 10th only on Prime. Are you ready for our next story? Thank you to the Jonas Brothers and their podcast for this sort of fourth story. You know, like hey Jonas is so fourth story. Don't you find? If by fourth story you mean bottom of the barrel, I agree. Just like irrelevant randomness. Like, you know, fun fodder. That sparks interesting conversation. Fun fodder. Kevin Jonas says, that he threw up during his brother Nick's first date with his wife, Priyanka Chopram.

He said he winged. Kevin threw up? He winged man so hard, he said. Oh, because he got like wasted? Yeah. So when Nick was on therapist, he told the story of his first date with Priyanka, which was at the Hollywood Bowl with like a group of friends, including like Kevin, to see Beauty and the Beast. He was like, let's bring some friends.

So there's less pressure. So it was like a group hang in case it wasn't the vibe. And so she brought her best friend. friend. He brought Kevin, another couple friend. We had, like, the absolute best time at the show, Nick said on therapist. The group, they went out for drinks. They took shots. He said, like, Kevin was, like, overly hyping him up.

I fucking. He was, like, you know, someone bringing up, like, baseball or something, Kevin would be like, oh, Nick could have gone pro. He could have been. I'm cracking up. He could have been a pro baseball player. He was like, that was the most jersey thing ever, and it was very sweet. She was obviously, like, your brother's, like, really gassing you up.

And Nick was like, he really wants this to go well. And then it did. He said we French kiss that night. French kissed? Sorry. Like, I roll Nick Jonas. Sorry. I would, but they've been married for eight years.

No, I didn't say I roll Nick Jonas and Priyanka. I'm thinking Nick Jonas is like, who says that we French kissed? Like, what are you? Like, who are you, Danielle Steele? Like, let the man live. Who are you, Colleen live? So anyways. One thing about me, I cannot let Nick Jonas live.

Like I keep my foot on his neck. Like I need to hold him accountable. I just like, do you find it shocking that like he needed a wingman and he asked Kevin? I just based on like the vibes when I read their body language, I just feel like Nick hates Kevin. Well, I feel like there's a wingman for different things. And like I think he was really interested in Priyanka like wifey material. So he's bringing his husband friend. The stable dad.

Yeah. But like if he was trying to woo someone else, like maybe Kevin's not the vibe. But I think like Kevin is the vibe to show Priyanka like what. their life could look like being stable and happy. I just want to say like this story. I didn't know that like this was the origin story of Nick and Priyanka makes everyone look so good, especially Kevin. Yeah.

And I just love him. And so then on Hey Jonas. Hey Jonas. Kevin was, they were talking about, um, the date because he was saying it's like coming up on the eight year anniversary of when they went out. And Kevin said, I wing manned hard. I wing man so hard I threw up in the bathroom and rallied. I love him so much.

Like seriously, dad, friend, brother of the year. Brother of the year. What's crazy? And we knew this at the time, but like I guess it sounds even crazier. They got engaged two months after their first date. What? Yeah.

And then so they got engaged in July and then they got married in December. And it was very quick. And I remember at the time, like no one believed that they were real because like who gets engaged so quickly? It was such a random matching. And then, yes, a speedy courtship that there was

so much doubt cast on them as like a PR relationship. It was so, it was bizarre. I'm sorry, it was. Now, obviously, they've been together for eight years and there's like nothing weird about it. They're like a very happily married family. But I'm sorry, at the time, like dispersions were cast. And I want to say for a good reason. Yeah, but like we were all wrong.

Of course. Like they knew what they had. They were set on each other. More of that, you know. Agreed. But I think celebrities do that a lot, but they're not set on one another. Also, like, it was the. Max Ehrlich and Demi Lovato.

It was the same season that like Ariana and Pete got engaged. And then also Haley and Justin. So people were casting doubt on all three. But what's so crazy is like Nick and Priyuk and Priyanka got like the most doubt. Yeah. I think there's also an age gap. And I think that people also were just like, how did this two even meet? Like it just felt so fucking random.

Yeah. It doesn't feel random now because like they're. No. It's like, they're actually so cute. I like forget that they are. They are together and like that's, they got married so quickly and engaged so quickly and they just knew. Like, kudos to that. And you know what else?

I feel like we're always talking about celebrities who keep their babies off, like, off outside like the public sphere. We never talk about the Jonas kids. Kevin doesn't, but the other two do. Yeah. We've never seen a picture about either of their kids. Yeah. I don't follow them. So.

I know that Priyanka and Nick don't. They do emojis, right? I don't know what they do, but like blurred. lines, whatever. And then Sophie and Joe do a really good job. Yeah, I've never seen a photo of them. I don't even know their names. Like, I think maybe Willa.

I think there's a Willa in there. I think so too. So whenever we're having those conversations, we never bring up the Jonas Brothers. But like, sly. Yeah, totally. So Hey Jonas, like, is making waves

in the podcasting world. Hey, Jonas is working for me. It really is. It's something to say the stories. I was a doubt or non-believer. And based on the limited clips and headlines, I've seen, like, it's cute. I don't know if I would love a whole episode. Do you see clips?

I think I did. Yeah, yeah. I saw Joe talking about his co-parenting relationship. Remember I was saying that? It was a clip. Oh, wow, wow. Yeah. And the logo, they have these, like, custom mic flags.

And it's called, Hey Jonas. And they obviously had one of their kids, right? Like, Hey, Jonas. Probably, like, one of the older girls who, like, knows how to write. That's so cute. And that's the logo. That's so cute. Her penmanship needs work.

but yeah. She's literally working on it. I'm kidding. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? Summerhouse West Wilson. Madam Marable, Graham, Karen, Reed. Exactly. Benson Boone.

Says he thinks about Dara Levitton's reunion comments every day. Oh, what did he say this? On his turn podcast, but he just sits down and lies. Yes, so I get clips for his podcast. Me too. And they're very low engagement, don't you find?

They're not like huge episodes. Also, it's like, they're so short. I know, like, you like short clips. This is something that we, like, always talk about. I feel like we will never truly be famous because art clips are not like, buzzy sound bites, 10 seconds each. Like, no, no, we're having thoughtful two minute conversations and people don't want to watch a two minute podcast clip.

But I like watching a longer podcast clip, like, because, like, I want to see a conversation. Like, this isn't like a comedy show. Yeah, but the whole point is that like, you're going to like what you see, but it's not enough so you go listen to the podcast. But I feel like people who have, like, Buzzy, like, little little bites. Like people aren't actually listen to the podcast.

Now, oh, I like your clips. You're content creator. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just, yeah, I don't know what the right thing is, but our four minute clips, like, are gutting it. I love them. And I love watching other four minute clips. Like, oh, you entertain me for four minutes.

You have talent. Right. Anyway, so I find their clips to be very short, and there's literally like two sentences in them. But who are we talking about again? West Dara and. Oh, oh, West's podcast clips. Yes, I agree.

They're too short. They're very short. I agree. I agree. I'm glad you agree. So he is addressing what Dara said, which, you know, went like super viral. He said, which time, which one, the first of the second? I think all.

He said, I think the reunion is good for people to just get shit off their chest. Dara, I've known her for a long time. Obviously, it hurts a little more to have a friend, like really fucking cook you like that in that moment. He said, I've thought about it probably every fucking day since then. So he said, I haven't run away from. my bad communication style or dating history, it has not been clean in a long time. She's valid for calling me out in that capacity because, yeah, I've dated casually and hurt people. That one did stick out to me honestly a lot because I was like, oh, this is someone who I've been

romantic with and been friends with. To have them just give me the full scope of what that reads like to someone who's been a part of it all in all facets, that's a lot to take in. Like, is there any, like, okay, so this is acknowledgement, right? Like, he acknowledges that that's his behavior. I think he's taking accountability for his behavior. That's the West Wilson way. Like he says all the right things and does all the right things.

Is there any desire to do it differently? Or like, no. He just acknowledges it because it like makes him look good. He knows exactly what to say. But also like he can recognize. I don't even think he's putting on. Like I recognize I hurt people. I recognize my actions were bad and they hurt people.

Is there any desire to not want to do that anymore? No, because that's also like over the summer when he was talking with Ben about like how him and Sierra have just such amazing romantic sexual chemistry, you know, friendship chemistry, but like he obviously can't be in a relationship because he has that like disability. So it's like he knows all the things, but he is physically incapable of being any different. But he is capable of acknowledging his shortcomings. But that's sort of where he draws the line. Just acknowledging them. Yes. But so then it's like what is he saying to Amanda that's keeping her around? Like I feel like I don't think she's requiring a lot of explanation. But I feel

This is the different one. And I feel like in the reunion tonight, we're going to hear more from like what their conversations have been like because really why would she throw up? And I know I'm always giving her like some sort of benefit of the doubt, like to believe that something is being told to her that is keeping her in this position that she threw away her whole life, her career, and her friendships, her and her reputation and her name.

Watching the reunion, it's been made kind of more clear that like they're kind of unsure about where they are. And they just made this announcement because they have feelings for one another. and they don't really know where it's going. So they haven't really firmed up anything. So she really did throw her whole life reputation career away for a feeling, for a crush, not a relationship, not a great love.

Maybe it'll turn into that. But at the time when they're recording this reunion, like right on the heels of their statement, it's literally just a feeling that they're exploring. Right, but like in the last two months, like since the reunion, since the statement, they're traveling together. They're together all the time.

It doesn't appear like he's dating other people because like when would he be doing that? He can. He can. Right. So maybe this one's different. Like, I just, I don't know. I can't wrap my head around someone being so stupid. I really can't. That's why I always, that's why I always think there has to be something else. There's something that they have between them that we don't know. Because how could you be so stupid? Yeah, there's something they're not telling us. Right. Let's time into Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment every Tuesday. Jackie and I like to help out members of our community. They write us in whether it's dating stuff, wedding drama, workplace, romance. email us, Dear Toasters at gmail.com, if you need a advice from your girlies,

or head over to our website, the Toastpodcast.com, scroll down to the submission box, both totally anonymous methods of submission, and we will never, you know, blow up your spot. Ready? Hey, Jackson Turney. First of all, love you guys.

I spent my weekend saying the place looks great, well, it always does. I need advice because I know the logical answer, but I'm conflicted. I take Pilates at a studio with a coffee shop attached to it, and one day I notice his really handsome guy there. We made eye contact a few times,

but I assumed he was writing, waiting for his girlfriend, and I left without saying anything. A few class, later after realizing he's just working and not a significant other of anyone there, my instructor ended up showing him my Instagram and encouraging him to follow me. And instead, he gave her his number for me, but before I even texted him, he followed me and DM'd me first.

We instantly clicked, we talked for hours, but then he casually mentioned that he has two kids. I jokingly said, you're hopefully not married, and he told me he separated, co-parenting, and the situation is complicated. I did some investing and found that the co-parents Instagram, while they don't wear rings, and they have different last names, they all still live in the same house for the kids. He's reassured me that there's no chance of reconciliation, but I can't tell if I'm ignoring obvious red flags because the connection feels so strong.

I obviously don't want to tell him I've seen her Instagram. Do I trust the vibe? Should I run before I get attached? So she is like... Yeah. No, I think it's a very complicated situation. And like, you have to think about what you want and like what your timeline is.

Because by the time that this man like figures out his mess of a life and honestly, the idea that they're living like in the same house for the kids while not being together, like is actually like kind of nice for their face. family. So like, of course. So is he running to move out? As long as he lives with his wife, you're never going over to his house. Like that's not a real relationship for you. And like if you are looking to like get married and have kids, like by the time he's available to have a real relationship, like it could be five years. Like I think this sounds like a waste of time.

Yeah. Although I just want to say I like that they're living together. Yeah. I don't want him to move out. I feel like it really speaks to him being a committed dad. Wow. I don't think that. Who? Our girl. Our toaster. No, no.

I agree with you. Like, this is seriously. He sounds like a nice guy. Maybe he's a guy for you. And if you could be patient, like, sure. You can. Yeah. He sounds like a nice quality guy.

I'm happy for his ex-wife. I believe that they're not reconciling. I don't think anything nefarious is happening. But like, you have to like figure out your own life. And like this sort of situation like probably doesn't work for a young woman's timeline. I don't know how old you are. I don't know what you're looking for. You can.

can't just like wait around for him like yeah sad this this setup works until one of the people gets into a relationship so like are you going to be the girl like that's a lot of drama if you feel that this is the great love of your life like maybe you want to go and waste your time i wouldn't recommend it you can also say to him like i like you so much i you obviously have a complicated situation that's not fully fleshed out like i don't think we should be together right now but like when you know what your future holds, like calm. Call me. And in that time,

you can go and meet other people and make a go and try and find someone, but maybe you'll wind up back together. But the time is not right right now. Yeah. So like he also really shouldn't be dating right now. Yeah, it seems like really fresh. Yeah. It just sounds really messy and like it's not your mess.

This isn't your party. You're supposed to be on a clean slate. Like you're starting to. find your person. Like it's just a lot if you it's just a lot. And the odds of it working out perfectly and in the time frame that works for you are very slim. Yeah, right. All right. Next up. Hey, Swirlays. I'm two weeks postpartum with my second child and my husband is horny as fuck. In addition to nine months of a medically traumatic pregnancy, I just got home from the hospital after almost dying from postpartum preclampsia. My husband was actually in the room when my heart

stop and I had to be revived. So I feel like he wants to fuck me so bad because he almost lost me but good God, I'm two weeks postpartum. How do I set reasonable boundaries gently with this very sweet man who's clearly traumatized and also horny as fuck? By the way, I promise I will submit an update because I'm also annoyed with the lack of updates. Yours truly a mama of two with no libido.

I feel like the fact that you are seeing this as like a sweet thing that your husband's doing, like you are a better woman than me because your husband needs to fuck all the way off. And now we all have to come up with a plan for like you to let him down easy. Why don't you send him this episode? Sir, fuck off.

Okay? Like leave your wife alone. She gets a year. Medically, she can't even talk to you or look at you for six weeks. No, six weeks. Well, she's already two weeks postpartners. So she has four more weeks. Medically.

And then it's whenever she decides. But like seriously two weeks. Like aren't you busy? Like aren't you busy with the newborn? And your pre-existing child, like a toddler presumably? Right. Like I think you're giving him a lot of credit. He almost lost me.

So he wants to. No, you're so sweet. Like you sound like such a fucking queen. And I like that you really see the best in your husband. Like you don't see him as a pest with his own. He's a pest. Yeah, he's a pest. You don't see him as that like making his own needs like the priority versus your like

genuine clinical medical needs. That's sweet. Like you seem like a really sweet wife. You obviously love him because you see the best in him. But like seriously, this is not that. He's annoying and he has to go. Yeah. Yeah.

Just by the way, no. No is a whole sentence. And also like medically you can't. do anything. Well, you know, people do, because then, you know, there are people who have babies who are like 10 months apart. It's insane. Who could possibly? Ten months apart. No, then you're like at the six week. I just want to say, like, the first time that I, you know, after postpartum, I had to like soak in a tub. I was in so much pain. Yeah. No, it's crazy work. Pelvic floor is a real thing. Yeah. No is a whole sentence. By the way, I always, by the way, I always,

Only recently found out you could have postpartum preeclampsia, which is not that I'm comparing, but like is much more painful. Scary. Yeah. So no, that's my advice to you, sister. It's just no. And then also you could like tell your doctor, even if had six weeks, you're like not wanting to get to. Why don't you see the doctor?

Tell your husband the appointment's at 2.30, but it's actually a two. Have him coming at the end. And you can just tell the doctor, please tell my husband. I need another. But I can't have sex for six months. All right, next up. Hey, Swirleys. I'm also a member of the Dead Dad's Club for about eight years now,

and I've been seriously dating my boyfriend for over a year. I talk about my dad occasionally, but not often. I don't do much for his birthdays or anniversaries, but I am fully present for them. Long story short, is that I took my mom and dad's old golf clubs. My boyfriend was cleaning them and getting me all ready to start playing soon. He later told me that he took one of my dad's clubs to get re-gripped for him because he thought I would think it was sweet.

is this totally fucked up because he didn't ask or is it a pea job move? I just don't understand why someone would do that as a surprise, like not letting you know or like, I don't even think he meant to do it as a surprise. But why not tell you that he's doing it or ask you if he can do it before he maims something that is precious to you? Yeah, no, this is crazy behavior. Like to, first of all, it's your boyfriend, not your husband.

So he needs to calm down. But any normal sane person would just be like, oh my gosh, I love these clubs. Like I think it would be like nice if I, you know, re-grip it for me. Let me know how you feel about that. Like no one would actually just go and do it without saying anything. Permission.

A psychopath. Yeah, it's giving sociopath. Like to touch the item, like a personal item of a loved one who's passed away is crazy. Like you shouldn't move it. You shouldn't touch it. Like it's up to the person. But to then like actually change it to fit your fucking hands. Like that's insane.

without mentioning, asking, telling nothing. This is a crazy person. Yeah, I guess they, like, regripped the moms for her. And he's like, let's do the dads for me. Is that what it was? I thought, like... Yeah, she took both. Okay, say it again.

So, long story short, I took both my mom and my dad's old golf clubs. My boyfriend was cleaning them, getting me ready to start playing soon. So obviously she was going to play with the moms. Okay. So I think he saw, like, that journey for her and was like, do me next. Yeah, that's a little creepy. It's a little self-centered. I don't want to look too much into it.

But like, that's not a person who's like looking up for you. That's weird vibes. So like evaluate the rest of the relationship. It's also obviously like gay, right? Because he wants to stick the golf club. Because he wants to stick the golf club up his butt. It's very phallic shaped product. And obviously if we wanted to look more into this, we could.

But let's not go down that road. No, I think that evaluate the rest of the relationship. Like are there weird? red crumbs, if this is like a perfect P-jom, wonderful sweet, and like maybe he just had like a lapse in judgment. A senior moment. Yeah, a senior moment, senescence. Where he just like did the wrong thing one time. I can forgive the wrong thing one time. I can forgive it. Yes, of course. Sometimes you genuinely. If it's the wrong thing one time. Yeah. Let's do an audit. This calls for, we need a button. Like your husband is gay. This calls for an audit. Yeah, this calls for a relationship.

Relationship out of glance. Rag. Take a look. Rag. Rag. Take a look. See what you find. Tag.

And you know, like you're listening to it. You're like, yeah, well, there was also the time. And da-da-da-da-da. Right, right. You know. You know. I know you know. Like sometimes your toaster's is like looking in a mirror, you know?

Or you're like, no, this was so crazy. That's why I had to write it. It was so in Congress. So out of character. And you know that, okay, he made a mistake one time. We can forgive. Yeah. Only you can answer that question, my sweet, sweet friend.

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