The Toast - I Love Your Episode, Emergency: Tuesday, September 30th, 2025

Episode Date: September 30, 2025

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Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast. It's Jackson, Claude, we're your host. It's your favorite show, the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off, swirly. It's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy Tuesday, and it's so important that you choose. choose to spend your days with people who lift you up, co-workers to brighten your day. So if you have a co-worker you hate, this is your permission to slap the shit out of her. Hey, Jax, how you derr? Oh, sorry, her.

Could be a him, but let's be real. It's a her. It's always the women. Hey, Swirley. How you doing? I'm Dern good, excited for this fantastic Tuesday. We have a lot to do today. The theme of today's episode,

weo, weo, wow, well, well. It's an emergency. It's an emergency. not to like jump right into the stories, but like just to give like a tease of what we're talking about today, which is Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban, which we had previously said

was one of literally two reasons why we would ever do an emergency episode. Very sadly, I feel like not everyone who listens to our podcast is also a Patreon number. I mean, that's just a sad fact that. That's just an unfortunate reality. I get it.

People have different priorities. It's okay. You're always welcome to join us patreon.com slash a toast. Having said that over the summer, we had this like running bit that, you know, people always say when there's breaking news,

like, oh my God, Claudia Jackie, you need to do an emergency episode. And we say, well, like, yeah, but we do an episode every day. So just wait until tomorrow morning. And there are very few things that could happen that would make us physically get up and record a emergency episode. So we sat down to think about what things could possibly happen that would trigger an emergency episode. And we could literally only think of two things. One was, of course, the engagement of one Taylor, Travis Kelsey, which ended up happening and we ended up recording an emergency episode.

Or was that what spawned this conversation? Oh, like a week before we had said, like realistically an emergency episode list, we would actually, what would make us get up off our ass would be Taylor's engagement. Okay, yes. And she ended up getting engaged a week later and we recorded an emergency episode.

We did. Because we weren't doing daily episodes. And then we were like, what else really could? And honestly, I feel like we're always talking about the strength of the marriage of Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban and we referenced them quite a lot and we love them both so much, like as a couple, as individuals. We're kind of like their biggest fans, weirdly.

we're always referencing or not referencing them. And we were like, I guess if they got divorced, like that would call for an emergency episode. And we only added them to the list because it was so out of the realm of possibility. And when we said that, I got DMs from people being like, well, you know, I live in Nashville and I heard XYZ. And it's like, please, they say that about everyone.

I wasn't taking any of those messages seriously. Lo and behold, TMZ breaking news yesterday. Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban are getting separated. Mary, a month later, we were called to task and we did not ride. to the occasion. But what's also funny is Claudia and I had just recorded a Patreon episode yesterday. Literally we had got up from our chairs and one hour later this news broke so like we couldn't get back in the chairs. The thing is this is the emergency episode. It is. And it's nice to have like more

information even though people are just speculating that news is like so silly. They're like Nicole Kinman was at a beauty event solo a few days ago before announcing split. It's like Keith Urban would have never been there even in the heyday of their marriage. No, they do a lot of solo work, which is why we've always commended them for like making their individual schedules work. We always say like when a celebrity couple's sites like scheduling, you know, it was hard to be bicostal. Like we broke up because of the time management.

Well, Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban do it and they both are at the top of their game in their respective fields. So if they can do it, anyone can. But you know what? Even though they split, they did it for 20 years. So do it for 20 years and then tell me you can't do it. It also did remind me that I've been wanting to talk about

Reese Witherspoon did an interview where she was talking about her relationship with Nicole Kidman. and she said the absolute funniest thing that I actually was laughing so hard. She also did an impression of Nicole Kidman. The impression was hysterical. Oh my God, do you know what I'm talking about?

Yeah. We're the real estate bitches. It was, the clip made me laugh so much. I never thought Reese Weather's movie was so funny, but like she's hysterical. Just something I wanted to mention. So what did she say that made you, like the impression made you laugh? The impression made me laugh of like Nicole Kidman

sending her a property. Oh no, we're the property bitches like a take on the property brothers like not Nicole Kidman being funny yeah oh yeah yeah no it was really cute I think she was on um podcast cultaristas cultureistas um cultureistas um cultureistas that's so jacky las cultureistas speaking of las cultaristas um the trust out of community is upset with me because I didn't like you know say that I was really excited for bad bunny and you know what like I stand with my community you guys are right he's for the girlies I take back everything I said and then I was trying to find I know one bad bunny song and I was trying to find I know one bad bunny song and I was trying to find it on Spotify but like I don't know Jackie and I was trying to ask

chat come me a B BIP. Do you know that one? I don't think I know one bad funny song. I know I know the one and then chat I sang it for chat this morning and chat was like I don't know what you're talking about. Yeah, no I don't know one unless he's on a collab that I'm familiar with. I'm listening, I'm learning, I'm streaming and you'll catch me at the Super Bowl in the front row. That's really one thing about me. I stand for my community.

Yeah. Like they didn't like what I said I take it back. Oh, wow. Even though after our episode yesterday, when we're like, no, when we say something, we're 10 toes down, like, deal with it. Yeah, except, like, the toastatic community, like, has let me fully infiltrate them

and they never give me shit. Like, so if they're giving me shit, like, I stand, I, okay, never mind, control Z. So it's not your truth anymore that you're, like, not hyped for it. Yeah, like, I can get hyped for anything. That's good. No, the more I think about it, the more I'm like, this is a crazy choice.

I'm so lit up. Let's go. Oh, wow. streaming bad bunny on repeat. Viva Puerto Rico. Well, Viva Puerto Rico anyway. It's a fat place. Any day, Viva Puerto Rico.

Send love to Puerto Rico. Sending love, the Paul brothers live in Puerto Rico. There's like so many great things to do. And actually, Puerto Rico is a deep, like, integral part of Ben and I's romantic history. It's true. And it's the U.S. territory. You don't need a passport to go there. It's so true.

It's pari. So it can be pari. regardless of the Super Bowl. Of course. And it deserves its flowers. And they've been through some hard times in the last few years. Of course, lots of natural disasters.

I'm sending love. And we're huge in Puerto Rico, by the way. I believe it. We're the elk of Puerto Ricans. Sending love. Always. And forever. In perpetuity.

And a day. So, of course. And a day. Don't forget the day. The first story of the day is, of course, going to be the breaking news. We will dive into it. But before we do,

how you doing, Jax? How are you doing? I'm doing well. A busy week. Another, like, weird week because we have Yom Kippur on Thursday. So, like, we'll be off on Thursday. So just, like, you know, orienting myself to the week. Last night, I'm just like, I need to get off my phone. I find that I'm on my phone too much these days. So I did something crazy. Crack? Crazier. Math. I started a book. That is really crazy. It is really crazy. I just, like, needed to turn my brain off. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. So I read, like, just started reading, not like the most amazing book or anything yet, but, like, I'm really just trying,

like, it's not good. I'm just too much time on my phone. And I really am looking forward to Yom Kipport because I'm not fasting. And because I won't be on my phone. I'm going to turn it off for the 24 hours. And I need a reset like that. I don't know if anybody else is feeling it. Yeah, I feel like nothing quite puts into perspective

how much time you spend on your phone until you have a baby. And it's like, name a worse feeling than getting caught up on your phone and like your baby's in the bouncer or whatever. And you catch him like looking. at you and you're like oh my god i was looking at my phone i'm disgusting yeah or you're it's a terrible feeling like you see someone else dude or it's like if you could see yourself in this moment being on your phone and like your kids are being adorable like what are you doing so like you so true and it's hard when your phone is like right there and like vibrating because everything

just makes your phone vibrate even if people aren't actually looking for you like just no and tell me tell me why like i never got as many text messages when i didn't have a baby and now that i have a baby it's like everybody wants to like engage with my content and send me text messages and call me and tell me how beautiful i am like nobody was communicating with me before I had a baby. Yeah, so it's like you actually have to keep the phone out of the room. Otherwise, the incessant buzzing, like, of course you're going to always be drawn to it. And let me tell you what the incessant buzzing is. It's a nanette. Okay? Yeah. It's a nanit. Sound detected. Yeah, I'm here singing. Like, I'm right here.

Yeah, that's extra tough in an apartment. Like, for me, I still get notifications like even when we're not in there. Like, if there's like a shadow motion. Right. You know, someone's screaming sound. Oh, and there's always a ghost on my Nana. Let me say. There's always shadows. Like the sun comes and goes. The ghost of Snitch's pass. permanently in my house and so I'm constantly getting like the ghost notifying the nannot. I have to like a few months ago I turned off all Instagram notifications like every Instagram cannot notify me you know Kim Kardashian could do DM me and I would not get a notification. Um so that's been good but still too much time spent on Instagram like I've got to

scale it back. That's a bummer for Kim. It's a bummer for everyone really. Tonight is dancing with the stars and it does you know it is worth mentioning that we are now a viral sound amongst the TikTok dancing with the stars community. As you guys know, Alex Earle and her partner Val used our sound. Which sound did she use? I think she used, I mean, I don't know how anyone has a problem with us. And then last night. I mean, there's so many sounds that we have that are viral,

that it's hard to remember who used what. Correct. Last night, Danielle Fischel and her partner used that sound. Hamstring. So it's clear that like they all use each other's sounds. It's just clear that we're so viral that anybody who wants to be, in the mix of making viral TikToks has to use our sounds. I think, like, I have a feeling Whitney Lee of it is next,

because they make so many TikToks, her and Mark. Yeah. I wonder why she hasn't, like, done it. Well, you know, take your time with me. She's got lots of content to make. We are always here for you. Yeah, maybe we'll come up with some new sounds, even though I think we produce sounds every day,

but it's on the sound clippers. I don't know who out there clips the sounds. Mm-hmm. Well, we clip sounds, and, like, when they go viral, it's never from our original videos. No. other people just being like, oh, this was funny. We clip, like, conversations that aren't meant to be, like, viral sounds.

Right. But the viral sound clippers, I just feel like they could be producing more. They should farm our content more, okay? They should. For real. I do think people pay for that. Like, you can pay, like, a company to, like, farm your content, basically. I'd be down.

Somebody send me a bill. Like, yeah. Send us a farmer. I don't know how it's... Farmer wants a wife. Farmer and... Farmer wants to... It's a sound.

I love your sound, farmer. E. I, E.I. Yo. I feel like it's also worth mentioning that today's also dear toasters. The community was not fed last week. I have amazing submissions for you guys today. So I don't think we should Dilly and I don't think we should Dally.

I do think we should dive right in because there's so much to do, including the whale, way, well, emergency episode. Yeah, that's fine by me. Jackie. I love your episode emergency No, I love your sound farmer I love your sound farmer Without further a do to do

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We actually do. It's very interesting. She's like mining the internet for a story about SAG, so she can say SAG-AFstra. They're like the subplot. It's actually a very interesting moral dilemma, and I'm looking. looking forward to hearing your thoughts. But before that, Nicole Kinman and Keith Urban have separated after 19 years of marriage. TMZ dropped the news yesterday.

Nicole and Keith have split. He is living separate from her. TMZ said that they have been living apart since the beginning of the summer. As a reminder, the couple married in June 2006, so almost 20 years of marriage, they shared daughters. Sunday Rose, who is 17, and Faith Margaret, who is 14. Like, genuinely why? I don't know of a good. reason I don't think there was anything really nefarious like cheating here I really don't so you know

they grew apart whatever like seriously grow up you know yeah no and it's like you've been through all the hard times together I just was watching because I'm on my phone constantly a reel about this girl this girl was explaining that your marriage goes through different eras and like they're very and it's not about like always trying to get back to the honeymoon phase it's about thriving in those specific eras even when it's so hard it's like you just got to get through like having young I love that. Yeah. And then eventually, and if you do all those things and you work through those things, then you get to the golden era. And I feel like that's where they are. So like what goes wrong now when you have all the time in the world for each other? All the money in the world, all the success, like personal success separately. Like what goes wrong now? I don't know. And if you, I don't know. I'm so upset by this. I'm taking it so personally. I know it has literally nothing to do with me. I'm so. I'm not here for it. I'm just kind of, like, not accepting it.

Remember, like, back in the day when Kim and Connie got divorced, like, obviously before all of that, like, you were in denial. You were like, I don't believe it. Mm-hmm. I think they can work it out. I really do. I don't know. And I worry.

Although, if you get to the point of announcing publicly. And I do worry, like, things are going to come out where it's like a point of no return. Like, we literally say this about every couple who breaks up, like, literally, like, Zach Bryan and Brianna chicken fry, we're like, make it work. Here's the thing. We're still in the place where, like, nothing has happened yet. Like she hasn't gone on call her daddy and, like, said he had a crooked penis yet, you know? Like, I'm actually begging Nicole Kidman.

Like, do not go and call her daddy. Like, or just like, don't do what people do these days where it's like, you break up with someone and you tell them what color their shit stained underwear was. Like, I really don't think she will do that. Like, seriously, please. I'm so over that. Like, can nothing be sacred between two people? Maybe I'm naive, but I really think that they will keep this between them. They do have two children so that does, like, kind of keep the wheels on.

things, I think the most we would get is like music from him that alludes to what happened. The issues. Yeah. And I'm just upset because like Nicole Kidman ran so far away from Hollywood, from Tom Cruise. He literally kept her kids. She ran. He is the devil. And she found this like wonderful thing and they built such a wonder. It could have been just like a rebound. You know, she like needed a normal person who wasn't in a cult. But she ended up finding this great love after Tom Cruise. And they built a beautiful life together. And he sort of healed her from the inside out with his little guitar and his long hair like and you know she's she lives through like one of the most painful things ever right like your children don't speak to you and it's not because you did

anything wrong but it's because they're in a fucking cult with their dad and as good as life could have been for her afterwards i really believe that it was because of him like she found something so beautiful so healing and i'm sure her life is great now like she has amazing friends whatever but like i'm sad i really am like it's such a there's so much behind their marriage. It's so much deeper than we even will ever know. No, in 20 years is a long time. In 20 years is a successful marriage.

Yes. Even though it's not working, like they had a successful marriage and it's good and just because it's ending. But what's interesting about these stories is like the narrative is that he's leaving her. She didn't want this. Is it?

Yes, that she has been fighting to save the marriage that like he moved out and he's the one like, who's ending it. Who knows why? The only red flag, if I now look back at like the last couple of years, the only red flag in their marriage is the amount of work Nicole Kidman takes on

for an actor of her stature is really not compatible. Like her doing that baby girl movie. Like she does so much work. That Netflix show, which I'm sorry, was horrible, the perfect couple. Like she's so much better than a lot of the work she puts out. It's almost like, what are you running from?

Good point. I could see a movie like baby girl getting between them. Like, what are you doing? you're married 20 years and like you're licking up cat pee or something. Although Nicole Kidman is one of the very few women in Hollywood who like made a commitment, you know, like we're lifting up female storytellers. And she actually does do like X amount of projects a year that are directed by women. So she's not just like, you know, saying stuff.

She's actually doing stuff, which I appreciate. And I want to say, I think baby girl was actually directed by a woman. And maybe that was like her, you know, box checking for the year. For sure. But there are plenty of things that are directed by women. She also could just do less things that are still directed by. women like I don't know I feel like that yes it's directed by a woman it just sort of that's kind of a conversation under no I'm just saying like everybody wears their herstery t-shirts and then

they're back you know casting shy so you're just saying separately she talks to talk and walks to walk as an individual that's what she's doing so I'm criticizing like the amount that she works but at least she's like helping other women sorry sure but you made me feel like I can't criticize baby girl because it was directed by a woman girl criticize not Dana Holsberg seeing that movie with her in-laws because she didn't know what it was about okay it's a classic Dana I just wanted to caveat that like while I'm criticizing her work, she's also like, you know, she's moving the needle. One of the few women in Hollywood who like talks about like, let's lift each other up and

then they're like behind the scenes, you know, like stabbing women in the back. Not Nicole Kidman. She's moving the needle for woman. Mm-hmm. Just one. Um, I don't know, baby girl. I think that's where I could have all started. Just saying.

You do? Yeah, like that's kind of crazy. I feel like baby girl was like a cry for help. Like when we. talk about how weird it is that actors like kiss people on set yeah yeah that movie I didn't see it I actually don't even know what it's like she kind of gets into like a submissive relationship with her intern right yeah like her young co-worker so it's like porn like BDSM it's an extremely pornographic movie it's all about yeah like submissive like he makes her like act like a cat and pee on herself

and drink milk from a bowl so if I'm her husband of 20 years side eye especially because you're an accomplished actress like you don't have to take lowbrow roles like this you could have said no but you wanted to drink pee from a bowl okay I have another I have another theory for you maybe like they're you know they've been married for 20 years like maybe things got a little dry stale in the bedroom

and she didn't like love the way that he was seeing her you know the mother of your children like at some point you don't see things can get like a little boring and so maybe she wanted to change the way he saw her so she took that role and then what happened and it was just like a band-aid maybe it gave him a few months

interesting just a theory so you think they just lost the spark I don't actually I don't know he's also a musician which like we do have to take into account like even though like we love him he's no

he's our pea job like we love him Keith Urban yada yada like he's a musician like he's like definitely I don't know like on the tour bus being bad oh oh I thought you were going to say like, you know, he probably has a lot of feelings that need to be, like, handled. They say that, like, the only man in Hollywood who is actually, truly, genuinely loyal to his wife

is Robert Downey Jr. That's what they say. And so we should just assume that every other one. Until someone proves me wrong, I know there's going to be. Pierre Sprasnan definitely doesn't cheat on his wife. I'm going to open my phone and there's to be like story time. I hooked up with Keith Urban, you know? No, but like, I guess unless he left to be with someone else, but I don't. think oh my god i would be so upset if he actually fell in love with one of these hookers i don't know i mean we could speculate all day i'm sad i'm just like i'm projecting i don't even know like i'm sure keith irwin's a great guy i don't know i'm just upset yeah i don't know

blaming baby girl feels safe 100% well i guess that's that for now i'm sure we'll have updates we'll have updates but are you ready to move on anything else to say do you want to like give us a I have one more thing to say to Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban for you sorry let me start over

I have one more thing to say to Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban Kidman I was rooting for you we were all rooting for you how dare you so you're mad yeah make it work yeah

Like every we I know you like your individual happiness is important but like you also you have to think of the collective good you have a responsibility correct as role models do better you have a responsibility as role models to stay miserable in your marriage 1,000 percent I said what I said are you ready for our next story yeah which is some legal news I don't know why these two cup these two people except is actually what actually feel adjacent to Nicole and Keith I think they were neighbors at one point and that's jay cutler husband of Kristen Cavalieri has been jailed in Tennessee following his DUI. Yeah. So he got a DUI a few months ago and he has a four-day jail sentence. So he began. So he's just like Chloe Kardashianing it. Before days in jail, that's, I mean, unless he gets out early for good behavior. Yeah, because of overcrowding. But he went to jail today. Can I say something? Uh-huh. Chloe Kardashian going to jail and then getting sent home like a few hours later due to overcrowding was the first. first and last time I ever heard of overcrowding in a jail. Is that a thing or was that just like a line on keeping up with the Kardashians? Like for real. Oh, I think it's a thing.

I never, that was the first and last time I ever heard of that happening to someone. I never questioned it. I know, but have you ever heard of it happening ever again? I don't know. I feel like maybe. I feel like sometimes like celebrities get out for overcrowding, especially if it's like something like is it something that only happens to celebrities? No, maybe it happens to other people too. We just don't hear about it because they're not celebrities. Sound off in the comments. Like have you ever heard of somebody you know or like went to high school with like going to jail and then getting sent home early due to overcrowding. Like I think it's seriously like a fake phenomenon, honestly. Interesting. That we only thing is real because like we watch it on the Kardashians. How could it not

be real? Yeah. Well, they had space today because Jay Cutler went to prison to jail and he will be there until Friday for his DUI. I just want to say I know we could all say like it's four days whatever. You do it. Like I could not spend four minutes in jail. Yeah. You guys know my biggest nightmare in this life. I'm so afraid. I'm more afraid of going to jail than I am dying. And that's what keeps me like abiding the law. Yeah. Hard. I'm almost like a gnarc when it comes to the law. That's like really crazy that he's going to jail, that he's a jailbird. And it's actually crazy that there are so many celebrities who just like low key go to jail. Why do we put so much emphasis on celebrities? Like they're literally like delinquent criminals.

Like and brain dead morons. Almost every celebrity. has been to jail like it's so crazy we're arrested like why do we even the best ones like i love her sorry reese witherspoon has been to jail or like she got arrested why do we care what these people think and like why are we literally talking about them every day on a podcast it's so crazy sometimes like you do go down that you have to zoom out you and you you can't focus on her else like we're out of a job like what are we going to do i know it's fun but like every celebrity is not college educated Has mostly been arrested. I know.

But has mostly all been arrested, went to jail, has like some sort of like addiction issue. Yeah. And like we're always talking about like, she spoke out. Why do we give a fuck? No, I mean, enlightenment is no longer giving a fuck. Yeah, but the thing is, I love them. I love them. I would give them my last dollar.

Like it's so sick. Yeah. Let me, who are like my faves in this life? Like have they been to jail or arrested? Taylor Swift, no, of course not true, but never. Luke Holmes, but never. Haley Bieber's like turning into one of my favorite people on the planet. Never.

Gwyneth, never. I should see Gwyneth, like for carving her name into a tree. Totally. But no, I don't have a recollection of her having been arrested. Has Gweth Paltrow ever been arrested? No. Oh, she had her legal troubles with the skiing incident, of course, but she was never arrested.

who are like my favorites Kelly Clarkson I don't even need to Google it no she's never been Kinky Palmer she's never been yeah Mindy Kaling never been yeah okay I feel good about honestly like my faves yeah

you guys look inward has your are your faves like constantly getting arrested like maybe look inward yeah and causing trouble if your fave was Jay Cutler maybe you're looking inward today maybe take the next four days off to think about what you've done

But I don't know, he's really paying the time for the crime, you know? Right. So, okay, by the way, like, if Sam Hunt had gone to jail, like, would you have forgiven him faster because he would have, like, paid for his sins? Here's the thing. I actually, as, like, a human being, I really do believe in rehabilitation, especially ever since I read the book The Many Lives of Mama Love. Did you ever read it?

No. I think you should know that you're looking for books. I really do believe in, like, the beauty of rehabilitation. I just don't feel like any celebrities, like, ever get truly rehabilitated. And I'm not talking about, like, rehab. I'm talking about, like, doing something. wrong and like like coming out better on the other side and if they do it takes their ways if they do it takes decades charlie sheen yeah because i watched a documentary and i believe him but i don't

think he was saying these things 10 20 30 years ago yeah i understand so it's just important to like remember like come up for air every once in a while like these people are insane yeah they are insane and here's what they're in a tizzy about now um sagastra has condemned AI action Tilly Norwood. Have you heard about this? I'm following the Tilly Norwood saga. She was gorgeous. So Sagafstra has issued a statement

condemning Tilly Norwood, the AI actress who has become a contentious subject in Hollywood after her creator recently claimed that multiple talent agents were interested in signing the AI creation. The acting gill believes, quote, creativity is and should remain human-centered and is opposed to the replacement of human performers by synthetics. To be clear, Tilly Norwood is not an actor.

It's a character generated by a computer program that was trained on the work of countless professional performers without permission or compensation, they wrote in a statement. They said it has no life experience to draw from, no emotion, and from what we've seen, audiences aren't interested in watching computer-generated content untethered from the human experience. It doesn't solve any problem. It creates the problem of using stolen performances to put actors out of work,

jeopardizing performer livelihoods and devaluing human artistry. They added that signatory producers should be aware that they may not use synthetic performers without complying with our contractual obligations which require notice and bargaining whenever a synthetic performer is going to be used. So the thing is, is them building a program and referencing, like, art that other people created and not compensating them is wrong.

And, yeah, we're at this stage now where, like, AI is coming for jobs. That includes acting. And so while I don't agree with it, why would actors, you know, get their job safe from AI and not, you know, factory work? or coal miners. Like, AI is coming for everyone in marketing.

It's coming for everything. So it's not just about like SAG. SAG is obviously like centering themselves and I get it. That's their job. But if we're going to have a conversation, like we're going to have a big conversation, not just about like theater actors. Yeah. And I want to see this energy for all the other people whose jobs are being replaced by AI.

Now I want to say the man who created AI gave a statement and he had probably one of the losiriest answers ever just being like, I didn't make Tilly to, um, to, um, to, to job. I mean, Tilly, to start conversation. Well, this is what the creator's name is a line. I would have assumed that was a woman, but it's a man. He issued a defense of Tilly by saying, she is not a replacement for a human being, but a creative work, a piece of art. I see A.I. Not as a replacement for people, but as a new tool, a new paintbrush, just as animation, puppetry, or CGI. Actually, that's a sleigh of an answer. What about animation? Was that putting people out of

jobs? What about puppetry? What about puppetry? Or a CGI, which is fair, open fresh possibilities without taking away from live acting. AI offers another way to imagine and build stories. I'm an actor myself and nothing, certainly not an AI character, can take away the craft or joy of human performance. I just want to say, like the animation. Damn, not him convincing me. The animation comparison is a sleigh. It is 100%. And I also want to say, I remember a couple of years ago where they had that like robot pop star, Sophie or whatever, remember her? She like didn't take off. I feel like in an existential way,

like these robot type of AI characters are not a real threat to the entire industry. But yes, it becomes like a new sect of art. Yeah. And I guess it's a new category. And then if you're going to have an AI character in a movie, I'm sure other actors would not want to work with the AI character. So everyone in your movie would be.

Not Tilly getting discriminated against. No, I mean, it's very specious. Yes, it's so specious. So specious. So, everyone in your movie would be an AI character. It would be an AI generated movie. And is that movie better than what the real people are putting out? At the end of the day, it's like, is it good?

It's not, it's not right. It's not a generalization, because there are some animated movies that are better than non-animated movies, and there are some non-animated movies that are better than animated movies. So it's like, it's not like saying all AI movies are going to be better than regular movies. You make a good movie. No, like it could be worse. Also, yeah, like Hollywood, make a good movie.

They're making really bad movies. And I think that also really puts their jobs in jeopardy because if AI is going to do it better, because they're doing it badly. Like, if they were doing it really well, I don't think anyone would really like crave anything else. But yeah, maybe we do want an AI-generated movie that's like, AI, make a movie people like, and they do it.

The thing is, is that the future is here. And you really can't fight it. So you have to find a way to survive, like an exist alongside with it. And it is, it's coming for every single industry. And whether you take a moral stance on it or not, like, it's here. So you can either get on board or get left behind, honestly. And to be clear, I'm not picking aside here because I don't give a shit about this particular issue of AI actors. But I do find it very interesting.

No, I do too. And it's like, it's coming for every space, right? And so we're only hearing about this one because it's like SAG and everyone's famous. But there are great challenges in, you know, integrating AI into every space. I mean lawyers? Lawyers, that's bad, yeah. Like, AI could just write a contract at Lickety Split. It's so true.

Copywriters, like, goodbye. It's, yeah. This is just a larger conversation. And what do you... By the way, even, like, interior designers. Like, I was using AI, like, I forget for what, I was, like, buying a new rug for my master. bedroom and I was like what rug would go with this and they gave me like a bunch of good options and I found a good one like you know no everyone and I said I'm like I like the style of like modern or whatever I like your cake I like your rug chat so I don't know what the answer is honestly how can you fight this progress like how can you just it's coming it's here you can't we have we should be using these tools to make our human work better like how we use chat GBT on

this show to enhance the fact-checking department or kind of how like the uh machine factory like uh you know what i'm saying like the industrial revolution right they put factory workers out of a job the assembly line the assembly line that's what i was looking for the assembly line did include factory workers they included people but then it automated it yeah then it does get automated but yeah even you know the sewing machine enhanced seamstress thing no but you still needed someone

to operate the machinery a seamstress is a woman yeah what is a male seamstress called seamster oh duh no it's not so duh I'm just saying oh okay I don't know that that's true

but it feels right okay and a female tailor is a tailored yeah tell laura I don't know these are big questions It's much bigger than me. Of course, but I did like a lot of.

But to SAG Astra, sorry that happened and good luck. A lot of like AI advocates do like to compare it to the industrial revolution where it's like it pushed us. It was a leap forward. Yeah, I'm not against it at all. I use AI in my everyday life. It has improved my life. But it's definitely scary.

Yes, I understand the larger implications, especially as it comes to jobs. Yeah. AI is over here eliminating jobs and I don't think they're really creating a lot. Yeah, and to be clear, like, I don't always love the work that AI does, so I think there really is, like, value for human beings. And if they're only ever studying, like, human, say, in acting, they're studying, like, actors, then they don't, and we just, you know, keep going with AI actors.

They won't have, like, new things. They won't be able to get better. Right, because their references are old, and they're putting people out of business. Yeah. Yeah. So, I don't know. Not as having big philosophical debates here on the show and, like, ethical dilemmas.

But to be clear, like I have. She has no horse in this race. No, I do. I mean, for the general question of like, yeah, it puts, I don't know. What the right answer is? No, because what are you just going to shut it all down? Stuy for progress? No.

It's been amazing in other ways. People upload, like, their medical results and get, like, all this information that it would have taken them, like, years to get. Mm-hmm. Who knows? Who knows? Check back in a few years. once it's already done we'll be able to call it yeah classic us what a story's number next four i can wait it's a little book to movie news what people we meet on vacation trailer just dropped

oh i didn't even wait i didn't even know that it was getting the movie treatment it's on it's i happen to think that everything um emily henry has ever written is the most overhyped thing in the world. Like I, she gives such industry plant to me. Having said that, her best book is People We Meet on Vacation. Oh, having said that people we meet on vacation was the reason I stopped reading Emily Henry. Like I really

What did you read before that? Beetreed. I liked Beatriz. That was her first book. I'm watching. Okay. What is this song? Hang with me, Robin. Oh, the girl singing in the trailer. Okay. Oh, I hate it.

I hate this. Hi. Hi. Alex. I was not expecting to see you. My bag came out first, and that never happens. What? Am I?

I want. I've seen enough. This does not look good. It doesn't look good. It doesn't even look like the book that I read, which I didn't like, so I guess I'll be glad if it diverges from the book. I actually liked the book.

My core issue with this book is that the title has nothing to do with the book. The book is about a girl and her platonic best guy friend who go on all these different vacations every year and, like, you know, pretend like they're not in love. And then it's called People We Meet Up. on vacation. Right? You would have thought

that they met each other on vacation. No, or that they like go on these and it's not even about the other people on the vacations. It's about them too. It's about them too. Like people would meet on vacation

it's like you go on a cruise and you like fall in love with someone random that you like that you like that. Love. I don't understand the title compared to what it's funny first of all what it's actually about. I don't recognize either of those actors

and I just want to say Netflix does not have a good track record of adapting movies into TV shows and books. The Lucky's Girl Alive was not. my favorite. Again, I was a little too close to it, but I don't think it's generally regarded as a good adaptation. The perfect couple was horrible. And that's literally my favorite book. What did they recently do, too? I don't know, like that department at Netflix is not slaying the day. No, and this, like, the trailer looks bad. The book was bad. Actually, so maybe it will be

good. And sometimes in a trailer, you just like throw in a good song and like it looks like a good trailer. And that was a good song. And it didn't do it. No. And it's like, it's, it just seems so boring like these two people that go on all these trips oh no we're just friends and like of course she's so quirky oh i'm listening to loud music in the airport i didn't see you uh my headphones like okay no it's like we're just friends and then by the end of this book we won't will be lovers we're fucking right cool seen it before i think i've seen this film before and i didn't like the ending i think actually at this juncture we should be leaving the book adaptations to Hulu.

They do a very good job. They do do. We do do do a good job. Actually, Prime does excellent. The summary turned pretty, Daisy Jones. Tis tip, yeah. Tiss a tip. Yeah. Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

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Lainey Wilson will fly solo as host of the CMA Awards after joining two co-hosts last year, Peyton Manning and Luke Bryan, who we were doing it together for a few years. Now she has the job all on her own. I feel like it's like a weird job for her. Especially because she's tied for most nominees with six nominations. I feel like when you're really in the mix of, you know, like at the height of your career and that's not when you take the nomination

of this excuse me the hosting job you take it when you're on the up and when you're in like your retirement era like Brad Paisley did it for so long I guess he also did it with Carrie Underwood who was like at the time still at the top of her game so it's different in country than it is in pop like you never have Taylor Swift hosting the Grammys it just feels like a weird time for Lady Wilson like you're sitting in the audience waiting for your awards to be

given to you or like you're announcing someone who's to present the award to you and then you just like it sounds like a logistical nightmare on it's like running from backstage to the stage to your seat like I don't know it does but they must really like her because yeah it's also very political they I feel like country singers are always talking about how like these big organizations like the ACMs the CMAs are really political and if you want to like win the awards it's not just about who sold the most or made the most like you have to participate yeah yeah well congratulations to her yeah it feels like it's going to be a busy night for her wishing her the best

yeah and you know how I feel about Laney Wilson like please don't let me go on my diet tribe like I actually love her music I do think she's overhyped but I love her music actually not overhyped over awarded okay that's fair no and I've been getting more into her music recently and like she's done nothing wrong it's not her fault that she wins all these awards and that like they've decided that like to make up for all the years of overlooking women they're just going to put it all on her even when like Luke does deserve it it's just right and he's a man so he's not going to get it and that's not Laney's fault that they're They're over correcting with Lainey.

Like she didn't make them do that. She didn't create this problem. She didn't create this problem. And so I'm not going to now hold it against her. Right. And not like stream her music. Yeah. So when 4x4 by you does come up on like hot country.

I listen to what Lainey has to say. She's got a lot to say. Yeah. No, she's really fab. Hang tight honey is the best song ever. She's really fab. So she is. And she's got personality.

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If you know what questions we're going to ask, like include that information. This one I'm taking extremely personally because it has to do with OZempic. Hey, Swirlays, I need an opinion on this little awkward Ozempic situation I'm in. I did Ozempic for about three weeks before the summer. I didn't need it. I was about 130 pounds, but my mom had some extra lying around. So I was like, why not? It was a totally fine experience.

I lost 10 pounds. I've been off of it and maintaining it ever since. Obviously, I didn't tell anyone I was on it because they would tell me I didn't need it, L.O.L. Well, I hosted friends at my vacation house, and the next day my friend was showing me a picture on her phone. She swipes, and what do I see, a picture of my Ozempic in my fridge

that I clearly didn't hide well enough. I pretended like I didn't see it. Do I come clean, confront her, or what? My mom is also on it and is open about it, so I could also just totally blame it on my mom. I prefer not to tell anyone because it was literally three weeks. Please help. No, I'm sorry.

take the credit like three weeks you like you don't have to come clean honestly what a shady bitch for taking a picture of your ozambic so obviously all your friends are talking behind your back speculating if you took ozambic to lose those 10 pounds you must look amazing and they're so jealous yeah um i would worry more not about like what's happening with ozambic but the fact that you have a fucking rat in your house you invited that bitch to your vacation house and she's taking pictures of your intimate items that by the way could be you have a very good excuse like for all she knows you could literally just be your mom's like fuck this bitch like i don't care what you do about the ozambic cut this bitch out of your life what was she doing with that picture she sounds so toxic sending it to

everyone being like guys you were right kelly is on ozambic or whatever this girl's name is like no i'm mad i don't even i actually do not care about the ozambic situation you're not mad enough at this girl like taking a picture inside your house you met her into your home of the medications of the people who live in your home like what an invasion imagine if it was like your pill cabinet of course like imagine it was like a mental health health bipolar pill. She's sending that to your friends. Fuck this bitch.

Yeah. Denied until you die, by the way, just to make her crazy. Yeah, being like, no, actually, it's my diabetic grandmother. Just make something up. Like, fuck this bitch. Yeah. I'm sorry that that happened. That's not a good feeling.

Like somebody's in your home. Good for you for having a vacation house, by the way. Don't ever invite her again. Yeah. No, that's like what's jarring to me. You shouldn't feel bad about anything. You shouldn't feel obligated to share. In general, people shouldn't feel obligated to share.

But I'm with you. Like, it was three weeks. Just like, you did it yourself. Congrats, grads. Nobody needs to know. Nobody needs to know. And, like, I'm just upset that you're writing in about. And obviously, they're all talking about how amazing you look.

Like, this is a, like, and how do you look so good? So you should feel good about that. Yeah. Send a nude photo of yourself and be like, you bitches are never welcome back at my house. Yeah. Right. Like, your question to us about the Ozempic, like, I'm not so concerned about that. I'm more so concerned about, like, you have toxic energy in your life that you need to eradicate immediately.

Right. The question isn't, like, should I come clean? I mean, no. Who cares? Do whatever you want that. I don't care. Should you remain friends with this person? Correct.

And the answer is no. Yeah. Or now you know. Like you can have a friend who's like maybe you guys have history and like she's really funny and you have a good time. But now you know that she's, you know, not just all good all the time. And I can't believe you invented her your vacation home like the nicest thing somebody could do. When you could have invited us.

Later all I. And we wouldn't have taken a picture of your olympic. We would have just shot ourselves up, but we would have been bursting for the cost. Yeah. All right, next up. Hey, Jackson Claude. I just found out that my husband of one month on the last night of our honeymoon met two men while I was back at our hotel room sleeping that purchased a lap dance for him. The woman was naked and at the end he pulled his pants down.

Apparently, it didn't go any further than that. I thought this was a joke when he started telling me a week later. I'm extremely upset in hoping for advice. Okay. Back it up. When was their honeymoon? A month ago. And last night

Found two men Met two guys Like while he was at the hotel bar Or whatever she was asleep Or she was in the room Yeah she was sleeping And they like purchased a lap dance I guess like under the guys of like

Oh this guy just got married Sort of like Bachelor Party energy This is a nightmare There are so many red flags Like your husband went to the hotel bar While you were sleeping on your honeymoon Bitch go to bed and lay with your wife Two not only did he like run out

He was like hanging with dudes That like he partied with He didn't, he doesn't sound like a guy who was like ready for marriage. Not to be like divorce. Like looking for any straggler to go out with and they go to a strip club, like a bunch. The lap dance is one of many red flags here. Like not just the act of getting a lap dance from a naked woman and you pulled your pants down. That is cheating, by the way.

Yeah, no, it's not like he did it on his bachelor party with his friends and you go to a strip club and like it's the environment and whatever. Like, this is so weird. And I feel like he's telling you to sort of cleanse his. himself being like what do you mean i told you like but no no he took like i'm sorry there are a lot of elements here that are cheating the fact that it was on your honeymoon you have a big problem here i'm not gonna like sugarcoded for you have a big problem because like now you're married right don't have kids so you can always back out so this is like what i'll say is this is caused to evaluate the relationship like it's time for a state of the union are there other red flags

are there other things about him that you need to do an audit now And now would be the time to leave if the audit turns up rotten. Yeah, I like that. Do an audit. I like that a lot. Like a mental audit. Like how do you feel about, like, you know what I mean? Like, did he just get, is he really stupid?

Is he sort of like a follower? And he met these guys and he found himself in a bad spot, but he's like not a bad person. He just has no back. Right. Like also not great, but not divorce worthy. Yeah, like it depends on the intention. Do you have to worry every time you go on vacation that he's going to be at, is he just the kind of guy that goes to the bar and just like goes.

out and like can't be serious you know what I mean like you only you can answer these questions we're doing an internal audit I love that I do um I'm really sorry that this happened to you I just want to say like don't be embarrassed to just call it no and you have like total grounds right I think a lot of people find themselves in like bad situations because they didn't just call it for fear of like what everyone from your like high school Facebook group is going to see like who cares. Like you could be so much further down the line in such a worse situation because you didn't just call it. Jackie's right. You don't have kids. One month. Like, okay, people will talk about you for a month and then they'll move on. And you know what? At least people are talking about

you. Okay. Let's give them something to talk about. Don't be afraid to just call it. I think sometimes it's easier when you have like a tangible reason. I think sometimes also people like are afraid to call it because it's like, well, it's just a feeling and it could change. And sometimes I feel different. And like, it's like, but he did something like very wrong. And if it's something that speaks to a pattern of behavior that you've seen or it just sort of confirms other doubts that you've had which only you know I can't tell you

or it's like oh my God so out of left field like I can you can forget like I'm as we've said we're very forgiving so like if he is worthy of forgiveness then forgive and move on but like you do need to ask yourself these big questions do in audit I love that only you can make the right decision

but if really if genuinely like he's a pejohn and he did something bad yada yada but he also if you are gonna like give him grace he needs to get his ass handed to him so fucking hard really needs to be told like that this is not okay behavior wait who took their pants off he did that's look yeah who by the way even in like a normal lap dance on a bachelor party like you keep your pants on it's kind of the rules think you at physical therapy i don't think he went to a checkie i don't think he went to a strip club i think he went to a brothel i think he thought he was at physical

therapy oh for sure for it's coxedinia oh maybe he just just has coxedinia. No, that's really weird. And by the way, I feel like the way you're writing to us, like you're, like, trying to vouch for him. Like, the woman was naked, and at the end, he pulled his pants down. Apparently, it didn't go any further than that.

Didn't go any further than was. Did he pull his undies down, too? Yeah, I need to know where undies kept on. No, the whole, even honestly, undies on or off, it's bad. No, that's really bad. Also, I want to know how he told you, like, yeah, was it really?

Did he come to you? guilty like full of regret like oh my god this has been like eating me up i did something so bad or like no we of course we did that it was a honeymoon like that's what people do what was a context in which he told you yeah and what's his level of remorse and regret or was he just saying it like how funny ha ha that's red flag this don't be afraid to just call it girlfriend don't be afraid run the audit and i've said it once i said again it is extremely chic to have an ex-husband like i don't think that that no and you get to tell everyone like he pulled his pants down with turning a lap dance like no one's going to question you on our honeymoon on our

it gets worse with every sentence on with two other guys he met in the bar while I was sleeping on our honeymoon correct no one's going to judge you and then you have a chic ex-husband I'm sorry I'm I'm all here for it but if you stay too and you want to work it out I support you we love that forgive this is beautiful thing sets you free this final one is so funny okay I was let go sorry, it's not funny that you were let go. I was let go for my job after having my baby. And then my dad had a stroke. So I've gained about 30 pounds ever since then,

just like stress on stress on stress. I visited home and my dad offered me a wager to lose 20 pounds and he would give me $1,000. I was humiliated. We had a big fight. I know he meant well, but if he felt like I was fat or broke, why make me be a performing monkey just so I get money?

How would you react to this? I let it go and apologized. but I'm still hurt. Of course it would hurt my feelings, naturally. However, after taking a step back, I say to myself, I could be 20 pounds slimmer and $1,000 richer. This is a good thing for Jack's self. Especially, like, with OZMPIC.

Girl, five words for you. Take the money and run. Yeah. You come out of this so parjy, like, of course, you know, if you don't want to lose the weight, like and it's not it's not right when people make you feel bad about your weight but like generally speaking like you don't feel good about it that's how you even described it you're in a tough time so you gained weight that's it doesn't like it's not giving like living my best life

you would like to lose the weight so this is like a little motivation and you get paid and you'll feel like overall you'll you'll be in a better place so yeah like sometimes like it hurts to hear it and especially that way like gamifying it is kind of weird um but when you take emotions out of it yeah it's hard to take emotions out of it because like your background you said like just going through a really hard time like and your dad should be more kind and caring with his words like men are just not like no I'm sorry like a woman would never say this like if you had a baby like no but yeah if you can zoom out and take the emotions out of it like he's basically just covering your ozempic prescription and well he you should like get that included in the fee and I would say before ozempic like this

would have sounded really even worse and also like you got to up the money Like, I'm, like, not that ozambic is cheap, but it helps. And it makes it a little bit. It makes it doable for people who maybe couldn't have done it before. Right. So, yeah, in the age of Ozempic, like, you're crushing it. I just want to say, if you got, like, go from your job and, like, the only way your dad is going to give you money for $1,000, like, is to lose weight.

Like, he's a dick. If you need money and he just has it lying around, clearly, he should have been more generous with you, like, before the weight loss thing. But zooming out, like, yeah, if you wanted to lose the weight anyway, do it. And now you'll also get $1,000. Yeah. But I understand why your feelings are hurt. Of course.

That's hurtful. No, parents, like, don't know how to, like, when it comes to, lose weight. Yeah, there's, like, no good way to do it. No, there is not. It's, like, and they're always coming from a place of love. They want you to be healthy and happy. But, like, it hurts so bad to hear it.

Like, there's no good way. So I guess this was, like, his way. Another bad way, but there's agreed. not a good way. No one's ever coming away from the conversation. Like, wow, I'm glad you said something. Yeah, of course I didn't know. Thanks. I'm not living in this body. I had no idea. Kind of ozempic heavy segment today. Yeah, but yeah, I guess so, causing lots of drama. Well, we added ozempic into the third. True, true, true, but we can't talk about weight loss without talking about ozambic. No, that's like, it's so exciting now.

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