The Toast - Icky Sticky Bubble Gum: Wednesday, March 6th, 2024

Episode Date: March 6, 2024

Noah Cryus and Dominic Purcell Were 'Seeing Each Other' Prior to Mom Tish Cyrus Marrying the Actor (PEOPLE) (24:41)Kristin Cavallari Claps Back at Criticism Over Her Dating a 24-Year-Old (E! News) (34:56)'Love Is Blind' star Jessica Vestal had romantic Mexico romp with Harry Jowsey months after entering the pods (38:45)Luann de Lesseps and Mary-Kate Olsen's ex-husband Olivier Sarkozy spark romance rumors (Daily Mail) (45:08)Inside the Tensions and Tumult at 'Queer Eye' (Rolling Stone) (53:59)Dear Toasters Advice Segment (1:03:14)The Toast with Jackie (@JackieOshry) and Claudia Oshry (@girlwithnojob) Lean InThe Camper and The Counselor by Jackie OshryMerchThe Toast PatreonGirl With No Job by Claudia OshrySee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to the Toasty Little Bitches! It's... Plenty of people are listening in the car with their kids. Okay, but what's the... Like, you always yell at me when I curse at the beginning of the show. And, like, we curse in the middle of the show and you don't yell at me. I just said the word bitches, like...

Well, because I feel like, you know, sometimes by the time people get into the middle of the episode, the kids have fallen asleep, or they're out of the car. I just feel like to come in so hot. I just feel like you're out to get me and stifle my creativity. I feel like you're better than that. I feel like you're saying. You might feel like I'm better than that. I know that I'm not.

Turdy, don't do it to yourself. Happy Thursday, you little disgusting pieces of shit. How's that? I mouthed it. Pieces of shit. You thought we couldn't hear you, but we could hear you. Much like yesterday. All right.

Welcome back to the Toast and happy Thursday. I'm just so over these kind intros, you know? Like, I want to be a nasty little wench. Are you angry? No, I'm not. So, what is the reason for the season? Where's Positive Turdy? I don't know her.

What happened? Because you're home from St. Bart's? No, nothing happened. I've been so busy this week. I guess that is what happens when you just take off for a week to go to St. Bart's. So I'm feeling good. I'm feeling fresh. I'm feeling hot. I don feeling fresh. I'm feeling hot.

I don't know what you're talking about. What's with the gaslighting? I don't know what you're talking about. Well, I'm feeling great because Bruno has decided to join me from the top of the show. And something happened last week while you were here where he said, I want to get back to work. The show needs me.

And he also joined when we recorded Redheads yesterday, which was jolly good fun. And he's just podcasting his little tail off how nice for you yeah it is nice for me how nice for you wait back me into a corner yeah i have me into a corner yeah you've backed me into a corner wait also i forgot to tell you this hilarious story I was speaking of yesterday on Patreon I dropped a podcast episode you could watch it or listen to it it's a full St. Bart's recap the first 30 minutes I did solo just giving like my travel tips and tricks and then Ben joined me for the second half talking about our favorite moments um you know him having

the same shirt from Abercrombie as Jason Tardik just a lot and I totally forgot to tell the story but I'm gonna tell it now one of the nights we got home, you know, we were, we were a little saucy and we were going to bed and I was like just about to put my phone away. But you know, your phone like gives you memories. Yeah. And it just gave me this memory of like literally like a dead Theo. Like it was just from the, probably like the two days before Theo died. It was like a really horrible picture. I must've been sending it to a doctor or something, you know? And I made the mistake of showing it to Ben. Oh my God, he was uncontrollably wailing before bed.

So much so to the point, like I was obviously getting teared up too because then we just started talking about Theo. But like he was so emotional. Like I was really like, I couldn't handle it. Like I just closed my eyes and went to sleep. Oh my God. And I had like left Ben there so emotional when i was the one who made him that emotional yeah that's just something funny i did just something something sweet about yeah and the next morning he was like what the fuck was that i'm like i'm sorry i just

like really couldn't handle your emotions they were too much so you would think that then you wouldn't bring it up. Show him triggering photos. But what? We were supposed to forget about Theo? No. But you could look at him in happy times. Theo was so real. Like Theo was the tits.

Theo was everything to me. And me as well. Yeah. Rip King. Really uncool that he went and did that. Rip King. Rip King. Are you going that he went and did that. Rip King. Rip King. Are you going to be okay?

I'm fine. I'm fine. Me and Ben were like talking. I'm fine. Okay. Well, let's change subjects. Subsects? Yeah.

Because we actually have. So much. Busting Fast Five today. And so much to do. Fast Five is on fire fire some of the stories were like left over from yesterday but not any lesser in quality just like we only can do five stories i apologize it's wednesday not thursday i'm so sorry that was beyond uncool of me i'm kind of just like over keeping tracks of the days of the week i love that there are some days

where i need to know the day because there are certain things that happen on certain days for me. But beyond that, social construct. It also, it feels like it's just none of my business, you know? It's just giving social construct. Like I love calling things social constructs

like just because I don't like them, you know? Yeah, like let's delegitimize the days of the week. Take the power away from them. I love that. And let's take our power back. Yeah, because it's likeitimize the days of the week. Take the power away from them. I love that. And let's take our power back. Yeah, because it's like what now all of a sudden we have to be angry because it's Wednesday instead of Thursday. Like nothing actually changed.

But everything changed, you know? Yeah. You know. Are you trying to tell me something? No. Oh, okay. We're being like funny. We have a podcast.

We're like joking. Yeah. I just, you have so many secrets going on right now. Oh my God. I just don't know. What secrets do I have? You have your secret project. I have my secret project, yeah. But what else?

And I just like don't, that's what's hard about secrets. You're only a sickism. Like just keeping your lies apart. But in the words of Taylor Swift. What's that lyric? Secrets are a luxury or something. Secrets. From Dear Reader.

Jackie, what's the line? Jackie, what's the line? As your secrets. That's the words. You know what I mean? I know what you mean. That's the words. What's the lyric? What is the lyric?

As your secrets. When you aim at the devil, make sure you don't miss. What's the beginning of that line? I'm having like a Taylor Swift-sized aneurysm. Now I'm just not going to be able to think. The greatest of luxuries is your secret that's literally me this week literally you this week the greatest of luxuries is my secrets not to overhype or anything no we're under hyping the thing is we so rarely keep secrets like especially from the people that when we have one we have to hold on so tight to it

even though lately we've been like doing that a lot recently it's actually really annoying of us me specifically I told everyone the story that I got conned but I wouldn't tell them exactly how I got conned I haven't even told you yet I told Olivia she thought it was like an underwhelming story she's like you didn't get conned you just like are a moron okay fair valid to Friday Okay, fair, valid. Two, Friday. Oh. The thing is, I do mean to discuss with everyone, you know, in a vague sense, what went down. Yeah.

I have to set a call with our lawyer first. She begged me to speak with her before speaking to the toasters. And I've just been so busy in St. Barth that I never got to talk to the queen. So. Yeah, we need to know like what we can and cannot say. But we will share the story at some point we didn't mean to leave you hanging we just have to be on the phone with our seven attorneys you know there are seven of them yeah so we are all working also to say we

have been keeping a lot of secrets lately lately tro you know tro con fry tro con fry that's like such an inner like toast joke tro con fry yeah it's starting now yeah like if you know tro like tro con fry is the new rtk you know no but yeah yeah yeah but like all you had to do was listen to this episode to know tro con fry but it's because you just explained all it's so much deeper than that stop trying to delegitimize my inside joke you know I thought it's our inside joke I feel like delegitimize is going to become one of my new favorite words you know it's a good one did I just say it about something you did and that's why now it's in my brain and I'll probably say it good just don't delegitimize anything pertaining to me also I wanted to me. Also, I wanted to, you know, warn everyone. I did, prior to today's show, have a protein bar and a protein shake.

Because everybody's like, girl, you get so hungry, you need to eat more protein. So I had a pure protein shake and a Barebell protein bar. And I'm really feeling like I'll make it to the end of the show. Because we have dear toasters. It's going to be a long one. I think I'll make it to the end without, like, feeling faint. Good. You got to fuel up.

This is a physical job. Speaking of physicality, I made a little bit of progress in our 5K training yesterday. I ran two miles, 2.1, because I know a 5K is 3.1. I ran 2.1 in 30 minutes, which I thought was fine.

Yeah, that's great. 15 minute mile, more or less. Right. That feels really long because I feel like I could walk a mile in 15 minutes. And how am I? I'm literally running. Jackie, I'm running.

And it's the same time as if I were walking. That's what I don't understand. Yeah, that's a good point. When you run on the treadmill, what speed are you running at? Between five and six right now, I would say. Yeah yeah I guess that might be my problem I'm running on like a four eight no that's fine okay so like how am I literally running the same speed I would walk a mile well because it's the average so it's two miles so like say you you didn't run both of them so one one mile is slowing down the other mile Try and just go for one mile and see how quickly you could do it.

It won't be, it'll be less than 15 minutes. So I did that. And? And I ran for 13 minutes straight yesterday and I hit about a mile. Okay. 13 minute mile is good. I feel like, I don't know why I have this idea of like an 11 minute mile. Oh, 11?

I'm like seven. Oh, that's what you think it should that's like what i thought like miles are low-key fucking long like who gave them permission i feel like in the presidential fitness test like it was giving 11 minute mile the presidential fitness test was such a like a load of shit really yeah no what was that like a nationally mandated like physical fitness test. Meanwhile, like everyone's obese.

How does that make sense? Cause they took it away. I think. No, I feel like they still have it. You think? I don't think that stuff would fly anymore. It's like low key ableist.

I guess amongst other things, you know, just no one really goes for that anymore. According to Peloton.com. I trust them as a trusted resource. It should take an average non-competitive runner in decent shape averages a nine to ten minute mile. Okay.

So in between what we said. Okay. So we're above average. Not in a good way. We're below average. Yeah. But we're working on ourselves. But we are as described.

Non, what was it? Non-athletic. Non-competitive, runner in decent shape. Oh, I'm not a runner though. I'm not a, I'm not a, I'm not a runner. I'm not a competitive runner and I'm not a runner. In this instance, you are a runner because you are running. No, I don't think that's what they're saying.

It's not like a run. I don't think it's runner with a capital R. I think it is. I think they're saying like someone who runs. No, like you are running. No, I don't think that's what they're saying. It's not like a run. I don't think it's runner with a capital R. I think it is. I think they're saying like someone who runs. No, like you are the runner. You are the runner in this instance. Anyone who attempts the run would be the runner. I see what you're saying,

but I think you're like taking, you know, the language. Like you need to read between the lines, you know? This is what I think. Yeah, many factors go into how fast a person runs a mile including the length of the run are you running a one and done mile or are you going the distance in marathon right right right in the marathon they don't run all of those miles in seven minutes the fact that like I'm struggling to run a 5k and there are people out here running marathons is truly it blows the mind i don't think you're struggling to run a 5k like you things you did that you've run it once

but you could do it again but i don't want to that's really that's where that's therein lies therein lies the issue yeah friends don Friends don't try to trick you. Get you on the phone and mind twist you. You know? Yeah. That I know. That's her damn shirt. So let's talk about today's show.

We've got the past five which you say are kind of stunning. Stunning. Beautiful. Ten out of ten. Across the board. Tens across the board. We've got dear toasters

that made me chuckle. We have not heard back from Queenie with the condom. Everyone remembers that saga. Let's give her time. These things take time. So let's not pressure her. But if you're listening, we would absolutely love to hear from you. And it's not like we can write her an email and be like, hey, what happened?

She writes in anonymously through the website, thetoastpodcast.com. She's really not trying to have her shit out there. So respect the anonymity we can't we don't know so we'll hear back but we do have submissions that made me

absolutely chuckle today chuck chuck chuckle great yeah so beyond that what you know yeah I think we should

get into the stories I really really do okay but two things. Sorry. The final episode of Love is Blind dropped last night. We will be watching today. We will be watching today.

Are you all caught up on the previous episodes? I am. Me too. We caught up last night. Great. By the way, I have to say, they were some of the most boring episodes on the planet. Well, no.

The first episode was good with Chelsea. What'd she do? The fight on the planet. Well, no. The first episode was good with Chelsea. What'd she do? The fight on the terrace where she was absolutely nuts. No, she was insufferably nuts. Also, the fight between Laura and Jirami. I just love Laura.

Oh, that pool party was great. The pool party was great. Actually, yeah, between A.D. and Sarah Ann. Like, did you feel, me and Ben, at the beginning of the whole Sarah Ann saga

when she was sitting there talking to A.D., I kind of, like, heard her. I kind and Ben, at the beginning of the whole Sarah Ann saga, when she was sitting there talking to AD, I kind of like heard her. I kind of understood what she was saying. Like, her message was as respectful as it could have been. She didn't pursue. Agreed with that. She didn't really pursue him.

She sent the message right when she got out of the pods, just saying, if the door is still open, I'm here. And Jerami is completely in the wrong. Laura has every right to be upset with everyone. I could see Sarah's perspective being like I actually thought my message was respectful I didn't reach out beyond that like I just sent it and and let it go you know I thought AD was like really judgmental and like kind of rude and just like patronizing yeah she was and I feel like she was just looking for a moment yeah I just was trying to be like the voice of everyone.

But I did understand where Sarah was coming from. Obviously, it all played out really badly. But it is like she has the same opportunity as everyone there. Like they're all looking for the same thing. Like she thinks that she found it and she's going to try and see it through. It's on Jeremy to act right. Of course. So during the fight with AD, I was like, damn, am I on team Sarah Ann?

But then after that, she acted so unbelievably nuts nuts like with the she was like having a breakdown on the dock and like was so angry and then like literally he broke up with his fiancee at this party and then he like gets together with a girl like five minutes later the whole thing like after that i was like oh i can't with these people yeah i think by then they were just so over what everyone's gonna say about them because i i think they felt she felt like misjudged already when she maybe didn't deserve it so it's like oh they're gonna talk shit and they're gonna hate me regardless I'm gonna go do what I want yeah and I'm holding space you know for two truths one is that like Laura's a queen you know we stan Laura um but also up until the the jet ski thing like I saw where Sarah was coming from yeah because the way

I feel about Sarah is the way I feel about Jess. Exactly. If Jimmy had then wanted to get to know Jess, I would have cheered that on. So I have to be consistent in how I feel about the other woman because I do think that's a part of the show. It's like, yes, they could choose you and you can get engaged, but you still have to get past meeting the other person that they were falling for. Yes, it is a part of the journey.

And then Trevor showed up. And by the way, who was I shipping with Trevor? First of all, him and Chelsea are perfect together. But then he started talking to someone. Oh, because he, who was his backup? Laura. Laura. Well, he said that he had liked Laura for a time.

But she's kind of mean. That's what he said about her. And honestly, like, same. Like, I love Laura. Love Laura. Not just But she's kind of mean. That's what he said about her. And honestly, like, same. Like, I love Laura. Love Laura. Not just because she's a toaster. No. Would have loved her anyway.

But it doesn't hurt. And everyone is, like, loving her one-liners. Go kick rocks with open-toed shoes. Like, who thinks of that? Yeah. I'm excited for tonight, though I don't think anyone is getting married. And I feel like the only couple that's together

is actually Sarah Ann and Jeremy. Okay, I need to talk about Johnny and Amy. Because everybody's like, they're the number one couple. And I think people listening, people watching, viewers are like, if anyone's going to get married, it's going to be Johnny and Amy. And I don't think there's a more incompatible toxic couple than these two. When he was talking about getting a vasectomy, I'm like, you're 12. Like, put a condom on.

By the way, why hasn't the word condom been said in this conversation? No, it has been. He like doesn't trust them enough. He doesn't think it's secure enough. Well, I don't think he needs a vasectomy. I think he needs therapy. Like, you don't trust condoms?

Like, it's 99.9% effective. And if there's a.001 chance that yours is the one that doesn't work, like, you're obviously meant to have this child. Yeah, but also, you will know if it breaks. You can check the condoms to see if it breaks. So if it breaks, then you can take Plan B. It's going to be okay.

She said she's been thinking about getting on birth control because of her condition. Maybe she has... Did she say what the condition was? Or did I miss that? I don't think so I didn't hear a condition that I remember I assumed like PCOS yeah or endometriosis there are a number of women's issues that could lead you or maybe you know really painful periods or something but I don't know it gave me a pit because like she's a grown woman and up until this point she hasn't

been on birth control and now she's considering it because this freak it gave me a pit too and I thought the whole time when she first mentioned it she was like I don't want to be on birth control I've never been on it and I felt like she was gonna stick in that stay strong in her beliefs and then the results are to be like she's thinking about birth control like that gave me the willies 100% like I just feel like anytime whether you go on or go off because of a man like it should be completely your choice. Yeah and the fact that

she was so principled in it I actually had a lot of respect for her. And then hearing her say that like my heart sank a little bit. And I think everybody's like oh Chelsea's the villain.

Oh Jirami's the villain. Johnny is the villain of the show. I saw from day one I dislike him so much. There's something wrong with him there's something wrong that he's found who he says is the love of his life his life's partner he wants to get married he wants to have a house but like if they get pregnant even six months

before he decides it's time this is going to be a major issue for him so much so that he won't have sex with this woman that he loves so much so like he's like the the condom thing like i'm sorry it's just to me like i'm a very rational person and to hear someone be so irrational it's hard for me to watch like i can't watch their episodes their scenes like i can't yeah they're also like pretty boring but that conversation is so shocking to me and even outside of condoms there are so many ways to track your cycle, track ovulation days, like to do family planning or not. Yep.

Without going on birth control if the woman doesn't want to be on birth control. Yeah. No, I can't. I can't. Johnny is my nemesis. He doesn't know it, but he is an enemy here in New York City. Yeah. I just get the willies from him.

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and by then like we had a schedule a pretty good schedule in place so it was a great sleep sack but like when I first put it on Charlie I was like oh right this rocks you rock thank you blah this next story rocks I want to say it rocks because it the tea is so hot oh it doesn't oh it doesn't it doesn't rock because it's freaking weird oh wait what are you talking about Noah Cyrus and Dominic Purcell I thought you were talking about Jess from Love is Blind and Harry Jowsey no that rocks all around I have thoughts this first story there's drama within the Cyrus family. I think there's been a couple things over the last few weeks and

months that people have been like what's going on? Noah wasn't at the Grammys with her big sis Miley. Brandy was there. Tish was there and as we know like the the Swirlies have been very close. Yeah and also Tish recently got married and like some of the kids weren't there. I don't think Noah was there. Yeah and then of course Billy Ray is out of the picture too. Who knows if this has any, if that has anything to do with all of this, but, uh, people reported on Friday that actually Noah Cyrus, the younger sister of Miley Cyrus and Dominic Parcell, the new husband of Tish Cyrus, the mother that Noah and Dominic had been seeing each other and ended things before he entered a relationship with her mom, Tish Cyrus.

A source told People on Friday that Noah, who's 24, was offended that her mother, who's 56, married the prison break actor, who's 54, after he and the singer had previously hooked up. The source says Noah and Dominic were seeing each other in a friends with benefits way off and on. They stopped seeing each other and then Tish started hooked up. The source says Noah and Dominic were seeing each other in a friends with benefits way off and on. They stopped seeing each other and then Tish started something up. Tish knew he had been seeing Noah, says the source.

So I want to say a few things. This is all speculative. And I'm going to, if this is, if this is not true and I pray on my knees every night before bed that it's not. If this is not true, then like what's going on with the Cyrus girls? If this is true, like this is one of the most disgusting, vile, really seriously should be illegal things on the planet. Like I'm puking in my mouth. It's so fucking disgusting.

It's so insane. I want to believe it's not true. Like, Jackie. Agreed. Like, praying. Jackie, seriously. Like, cross my heart. Hope to die.

Please. I pray this is not true. Praying, hoping, dreaming. That this is April Fool's. I hope you're somewhere praying. I'm praying i hope your soul is changing so just know like that's where we are we're praying this isn't true but we have to for the sake of the show talk about it like it is talk about the possibility that it is true

and i feel like if it weren't true you know the people would come forward and be like whoa the fuck like no this this is not true I feel like even Noah herself might say that even though they're all in the outs because it's just a bad look for everyone no no because now I'm like I'm judging everyone Miley like how could you not take your sister's side so apparently today came out Miley had someone said Miley had no idea about the drama with Dominic. No idea at all. She confronted her mom about it. She thinks it's a strange situation,

but she loves her mom and wants her to be happy. So like, say Miley didn't know, which it's like, do these people talk? Yeah, no, I don't know how you don't know that. And why, then why does Miley think, like why isn't Noah talking to mom? Like did she ask? Why would Miley, what would Miley be doing

if she saw that Noah wasn't at her mom's wedding right so it's vomitron I know what I was so funny because I was actually gonna say this removes reminds me like Noah and the mom of Heartbreakers with Sigourney Weaver and a young Jennifer Love Hewitt but then I also was gonna say my favorite line from I feel like vomiting I feel like vomiting I do I do too but the thing is like giving Sigourney Weaver Tish and Dominic are married I know it's too late it's too late and I have to say like before this whole vomit inducing saga I actually really liked this as a couple I thought it was like really age-appropri inducing saga, I actually really liked this as a couple. I thought it was like really age appropriate and cute. Love that she married someone else famous after Billy Ray and that like she had said she watched the show and had the biggest crush on him.

And like how fun to bury your crush. Yeah. But now nothing about this is cute. And then it's also like what was he doing hooking up with Noah? He's sick. 30 years younger. Half his age. Half.

Yeah. No, sorry. Exactly half.. Half. But yeah, no, sorry. Exactly half. Never mind. No, a little more than half. Like, yeah, more than half. Yeah, like 52% older. 55%. It's sick.

It's sick. You're right. Like now I'm looking at him differently too. Like, and first of all, like there is just something, and I'm sorry this might offend people who have like hooked up with the same person as their sister or whatever. Siblings or anyone being related. I never even think parents and daughters. I think siblings.

Siblings fucking the same person. It's gross. Yucky. Yucky. It's giving incest. Yeah, it's just, it's icky, sticky. Bubble gum. Icky icky sticky bubble gum sticky sticky bubble gum. Icky icky like. But in some situations like it's just a case of bad timing and maybe the next person like say you know Kim, Courtney, Travis say that's true. Oh right right right. Say that's true like I don't

think it means that Courtney and Travis shouldn't be together. I think it's just like an icky sticky bubble gum thing that is always going to be there. I'm talking about sex, though. Like, if you made out with someone and then like your sibling ends up like dating him, like that's fine. Right? Not ideal. Like, I would.

Not ideal. I would try to avoid that. But if that winds up being your person, like, totally fine. Totally fine. Love wins. It does. But like I think as a general rule of thumb and we had this rule in our house growing up. Like if one of us was even so much as interested in someone.

Like had a crush on someone. Like you couldn't even look their way. And we never did. We never did. Except. I'm going to text it to you because I'm not going to forsake this part. part do you know who I'm talking about I think I know who you're talking about I think I know who you're talking at hold on yeah I'm on my way I'm on my way I'm on my way hold on I'm texting I texted it to you yeah yeah yeah yeah so let me tell you like that's that was 10 years

10 years apart it was 10 years apart like we're all different people 100% great um that's that's how you know there's one instance and by the way we're ashamed of it and it's by the way it's not me it's not me I wasn't involved and also like we're four girls we're in a very like small community the fact that there's one 10 years apart there are only so many like eligible alive Jewish you know age-appropriate men it was bound to happen and it wasn't bad you're right it was it's 10 years apart and there's one 10 years apart I'll take it there's one and like one was so not serious and one was like somewhat serious right and also it also it's like, but neither, it's not like that person, you know, is in the family now. No, no, no.

Oh yeah. By the way, let's not start rumors. That would be so messed up. I dated Zach Weinreb in high school. Like yucky. Yucky. Now, Jackie, picture that. But it's your mother.

Sick. These people are sick. And it was Now, Jackie, picture that. But it's your mother. Sick. These people are sick. And it was like literally by the way. I think a few weeks difference. And I just want to say, this is one of the things that gives Hollywood like a really bad name. Like, you know, there are all these conspiracy theories about people in Hollywood like eat babies. And they do like seances and they're evil Wiccans. And, you know, most of that's not true.

But every now and then they do something so disgusting like this and you're like well you know what maybe they are eating babies well I feel like when I think of the Cyrus family I don't think of classic Hollywood tale but they are like they are Hollywood Miley's one of the biggest pop stars in the world I know they just feel like kind of like outsiders to me but when I because they're southern and they live in Tennessee no yeah but they also kind of just like march to the beat of their own drum but when I do think of like you know devilish behavior baby sort of thing like Noah Cyrus yeah yeah yeah she sold herself to the babies she's definitely sold her soul yeah okay wait also you know who I want to hear from in this saga

please read my mind um i mean there's so many people i want to hear from so just guess like billy noah miley tish brandy trace Billie, Noah, Miley, Tish, Brandy. Trace. Trace. When she doesn't like this, will you do it like that? Remember, what was that band called? Metro, Metro North. Yeah.

I want to hear from him. Whose side is he on? Well, was he at the Grammys with Miley? I think he was. This is tough because I feel like Miley, especially like I know you're having a moment with her, but I really feel like she's having a moment of like true career peakdom. Yeah.

And like this disgusting family incest drama is embarrassing and it's bringing her down. It is. It's sick. Yeah. It's really sick. Good thing she has a new song called Doctor. Oh, oh, oh. They need a doctor. She needs to call an ambulance. It's really sick. Good thing she has a new song called Doctor. L-O-L.

They need a doctor. She needs to call an ambulance. Call an ambulance for her mother. And the sister, like, how? And I guess that would be like, No one did do anything wrong. Yeah. I know.

But, like, it's icky sticky. Like, I don't know. She literally didn't do anything wrong. She was, like, having fun. Like, thought it was cool to be, like, fucking a 50-year-old. Not a crime. She's 24. Like, she's of age. Yeah. I don't know. She literally didn't do anything wrong. She was like having fun, like thought it was cool to be like fucking a 50 year old. Not a crime. She's 24.

Like she's of age. Yeah. I don't know. The whole thing. The whole thing. Our next story is actually a decent segue because speaking of relationships with an age gap. Yes.

Kristen Cavallari is clapping back. I keep almost guessing the wrong stories. I thought you were going to say. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that's what happens when like, you know what the stories are going to be. Like you almost guessing the wrong stories. I thought you were going to say. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that's what happens when like, you know what the stories are going to be. Like you keep waiting for your story. For mine.

But just let the process unfold. Let the chips fall where they may. Where they may. Yeah. Kristen Cavallari is clapping back at criticism over her dating a 24 year old. So Kristen Cavallari announced last week that she has a new man.

His name is Mark Estes. He is 24 years old. She Kristen Cavallari announced last week that she has a new man. His name is Mark Estes. He is 24 years old. She posted about him on TikTok. And then she posted another video of herself lip syncing a voiceover of a woman saying, so what are you going to do about it? Are you going to arrest me? Are you going to give me a ticket? And then the caption was like, when they're all up in arms and I'm dating a 24 year old and so I have a lot to say and I need to explain something to you that I feel I fear you don't know about this I think I about the Montana boys yes okay I'm so glad you know so he comes from a content house he's like he is a part of like a high pass type it's like a content house he lives in in a house with a bunch

of other like cowboys who are also tiktokers I don't know um so Kristen Cavallari dating this extremely good looking 24 year old does not bother me like i'm so like you had your kids you're successful you're divorced you're single like girl yeah fuck the hot child love that for you like truly truly love that like i'm not even joking like get it girl get it like you're literally gorgeous you could pull like get it the fact that this really hot 24 year old isold is a part of, like, a content house, like, that's where I draw the line. What kind of content do he and his housemates make? Cringe.

Like, dancing? No, like, yeah, like, cringe. It's giving, you know the Sway Boys, remember them? Yeah, like. Where they made, like, sexy, like, lips, like, like that. But they do it all to country music. But these boys are, like, cowboys?

They do it all to country music. That's better. Yeah, and they go outside sometimes and, like, you know, do it in the fields. Okay. I just know they're bringing their tripod out with them to the fields. And it's like, it's just, it's not getting authentic. And did he, he just graduated from college.

Some, I've seen, like he was playing college football. Did he like get held back? Who graduates at college at 24? Maybe took a gap year. I thought you graduate when you're 21. 21 or 22 okay so and then maybe you know super senior 23 and like okay that's just graduating yeah yeah yeah the thing is like do I think these two are the great loves no like she's just having fun like I actually genuinely love that for her but the TikTok content like does give me pause that's all I'll say

for sure she's just having fun but I feel like it love that for her. But the TikTok content like does give me pause. That's all I'll say. For sure. She's just having fun. But I feel like it's a little more serious than that if she's posting him. Like she's dated a couple people since she got divorced. And I don't think she was ever public with anyone. Like she's taken this public. Yeah.

But this because this person like is public. Like they have a TikTok. Do you know what I mean? Like I feel like she's getting a lot of attention from it. I feel like it's like good for her podcast. It's good for Instagram. It's good for her TikTok. Like I think she's probably like leaning in. I don't think it's a lot of attention from it. I feel like it's like good for her podcast. It's good for Instagram. It's good for her TikTok. Like I think she's probably like leaning in.

I don't think it's that serious of a relationship honestly. How can Jackie. Jackie. Jackie. How can it be? He just graduated college after seven years. Like. And he lives with his friends.

Like he has roommates. Right. In a content house. Like. And like I think there. I saw there was a TV on the floor. Ooh. Not the TV on the floor. You know it was giving like no headboard. Yeah was a TV on the floor. Ooh, not the TV on the floor.

You know, it was giving like no headboard. Yeah, mattress in the corner. Like frat house. Yeah, flag. And this is a woman of esteem. This is a woman, you know, who has a mansion. Like did she go over there? Did she sleep?

No. Well, I saw her there because they all made a TikTok together. I saw it. She like came out the back. She actually looked like so cute. And by the way. It's fun. You know, I could her there because they all made a TikTok together. I saw it. She like came out the back. She actually looked like so cute. And by the way. It's fun. You know, like I could be a hater.

Like I don't know if Kristen Cavallari knows like she and I have beef. And like I could be a hater. But the thing is like I get it. Like I get it. He's extremely good looking. Just like have fun. He is. Yeah, have fun. I thought it was like cute.

It didn't bother me. Nobody's getting hurt. No. But you know, like the women who follow Kristen Cavallari are like older women who used to watch Laguna Beach or whatever. Or like, you know, fans of her reality show. And they're like these judgmental Karens on Facebook. Like, I can't believe you're dating.

Like they're, like that's who the backlash is from. The people commenting. Okay, well. Do you, boo. Do you. Our next story, some more relationship news that Turdy has been waiting for. Which one? Love is Blind star Jessica Vestal had a romantic Mexico romp with Harry Jowsey recently.

They got paparazzi. So Jessica was photographed having a romantic romp with Too Hot to Handle star Harry Jowsey months after she entered the pods. And photos obtained by Page Six, the mom of one and Harry were seen packing on the PDA while enjoying time in the sun on the beach. She and he lovingly held on to each other as they spent time together in the clear blue water.

You guys have to see the pictures. They're very, like, couple-y. They're kissing, hugging. And I don't know. What are your thoughts? I don't like it. What are your thoughts on Harry Jowsey in general? I like him.

I think he's like super funny. I loved him on the show that he was on that brought him to stardom. Too hot to handle. And ever since then, I've actually found it really interesting how he's sort of become this star. He works a lot with Netflix. He has a podcast. I think he's super interesting he's very successful too he's very successful I have no problems with him I actually like him

um for Jess no what about like for Mr. Right Now fine not as Father of Autumn right that's the thing what what have we been saying this whole time Like none of the men on that show were really man enough for Jess. She's this sort of, I don't even know what the word is. She's just this whole lot of woman. Yeah. And it takes, it's going to take someone serious. And I love Harry Jowsey. I wouldn't say he's a serious person.

I don't know. I feel like he has it in him. I expect that this will be just like a fun for now sort of thing, but I wouldn't count them out. Like, I feel like it could be a good match. Don't count out the Countess. I feel like it could be a match. It also could not be, but like, I like this.

I'm not crazy about it. But I did feel like, speaking of that episode, she had that conversation with Jimmy. She's still, like, I think, in this place where she doesn't really know him that well, and she doesn't know that he's the right guy for her, so she's still really open. But there's only one episode left.

Like, what do you think happens with them? She's done with him. Yeah? Yeah, she's not, like, chasing him down or anything. Like, I think that she knew that he's not the right person for her even though like she wanted him to be and I think maybe if he had chosen her maybe they would have gotten together but I still think that they each of them can find a better match for

themselves like I don't think they are right for each other unfortunately okay but maybe if they had chosen each if he had chosen her like they could have made it work. For the time being, yeah. Yeah, but it's not a perfect match. It wasn't a perfect match. Okay. Yeah, I thought she handled it really, really respectfully. Like, and also honestly, like I still have a crush on you, duh.

Like, but. Right. You know, not trying to be like, I'm still here if you want me. Sarah Ann. Yeah. Because also, who wants to be like, I'm still here if you want me. Sarah Ann. Yeah. Because also, who wants to be second best? I know. It's like, and it's at some point, it's like your ego gets involved.

Yeah. But I think a lot of people make the wrong choice in the pods for whatever reason. You're literally like, you can't even see the person. No, it's crazy. It's so hard. And also, I think these people act differently in the pods than they do in my life like look at Kenneth I can't by the way that's one of the things I'm actually genuinely looking forward to at the reunion like that's something I need answers on yeah like two different people I mean even Chelsea Chelsea that fight was something else. Something else. And I didn't really realize until he said it that she was so drunk.

Yeah. I'm like, she's being nuts. But like, she's been nuts this whole time. Yeah. And then he was like, you're drunk. And I was like, oh my God, yes, she's drunk. She is drunk. But it's like, if that's how you're going to get when you're drunk,

then you shouldn't drink. Oh my God. Facts on facts. Like, you're going to ruin your relationship. Like, that's the kind of drunk that you are. Like, whiny, naggy. Like, picking a fight. Like, don't drink oh my god facts on facts like you're gonna ruin your relation like that's the kind of drunk that you are like whiny naggy like picking a fight like don't drink but it's so interesting because I feel like we've all been waiting to see who Chelsea was talking about when she was like you fucked her I know you did I was so not expecting it to be one of the female friends

and when when Jimmy was like listen I told you that like in the spirit of transparency in our relationship and I asked you not to bring that up on camera to me that would be um that would be a deal breaker for me if I told somebody something in confidence off camera and we're in a relationship and we're going through this together and so I'm trying to be honest with you so I tell you something about my life off camera that I don't want to talk about because it involves someone else and the first thing you do is the next day you get drunk and you say it to me that's like you're not protecting me like I would be so out it's like not even I don't care how much I love the person goodbye so out I totally agree and he had so many outs and like I could not believe that he didn't take the out I know when then they sat

down to like really fully break up and then they did it she wheeled him back in I was like this whole time I like so now I actually thought that episode was really good for Jimmy because now I'm like believing remember how he said like he tells her he loves her and that she's his first choice blah blah and like I don't believe him but now I believe him because like he could have gone and he didn't so Ben and I have been so confused and for like the last couple of episodes we keep looking at each other and we're like I think Jimmy's telling the truth like I think he likes Chelsea yeah I don't know like he's so confusing he's taking this all the way he is taking this all the way. He is taking this all the way. And if they, when they break up,

like he will not be the villain in this story. I actually think that he's handled himself really well. I know, but people are so weird because so much of like the feedback I've seen online is like, Jimmy's the worst. Jimmy's the worst. Like, I don't think Jimmy has seriously done one thing wrong. Was it not like the nicest thing that he said? His favorite thing about her was her teeth.

Like, yeah. But like, I don't think he's gone out of his way to be malicious. No, not at all all given like the situation he got himself into I I'm so confused by him I actually think he's like a sweet guy I think he's a sweet guy I feel like people think Jimmy's the they say that because it's like he's not the greatest he's not like the funniest or the most interesting and they just kind of find him like boring milk toast but yeah I don't think he's the worst no me neither yeah so Jess and Harry Jowsey like we'll see I don't think this is you know the end all be all but we'll see yeah but I'm glad she's having fun this is the time

yes this is her time everything's coming up Jess everything's coming up Jess yeah so it's a good first choice honestly I agree next story some more new couple news four or five four great Luann Della Sepps and Mary-Kate Olsen's ex-husband Olivier Zarkazi spark romance rumors as they enjoy a cozy two-hour date in New York City this I begged Jackie to include this. Like, this. You didn't even have to beg. Like, this is. Is my Roman Empire.

Yeah, I really, these two are perfect together. Oh, they are made for each other. Made for each other. Happy for her, obviously. Happy for him. Jackie, these two are made for each other colon famous couples throughout history yeah I they I don't know how many dates it's been maybe it's just been the one but I feel as though this will be the beginning of a long and beautiful

relationship I need to look at these pictures again because like it was genuinely too much for me but the thing is and I know what people some people are gonna say like how are Luann de Lesseps and Mary KateKate Olsen dating the same guy? Now, this guy never should have been married to Mary-Kate Olsen. Like, in my opinion, they were always a mismatch.

Mm-hmm. And he should have always, always, always been married to Luann de Lesseps. Like, he's literally a combination, this guy, Olivier, of the Count and Jacques.

And he's 54, just so you know. Love. And Luanne is 58. Oh, so an older man. I mean, an older woman. Yeah. But they're the perfect couple.

I'm trying to figure out. Oh, they were at Bilbo Cay. Classic Luanne de Lucep spot. Yeah. And, you know, now I can speak freely about this because it was so long ago and I moved out of that building. And, you know, now I can speak freely about this because it was so long ago and I moved out of that building. When Mary Kate Olsen was going through a divorce with this guy, she must have had a friend who lived in my building who, like, never used the apartment.

Because she moved in there for quite some time. I never even saw her. Ben saw her chain smoking cigarettes outside. And I would, like, always volunteer to go walk Theo, rest in peace, you know, to him. Because I'm like, maybe she'll be outside smoking a cig. I never caught her. But she lived in the building for quite quite a while the staff said she was absolutely lovely you know a couple complaints about cigarette smoke upstairs but for the most part they had really nice things to say I'm glad yeah that was like a really exciting time to be me

except you never saw her no but like every morning I was like excited the possibility to leave for the day to take the elevator I would like offer to take the trash out like it was just it was an exciting time things were brimming with possibility probably an exciting time for Ben you doing all of these things maybe he made it up that he saw her just to get you to do those things oh my god no because I would talk to the doorman about it you should do that you should tell him like Carmelo Anthony has moved into your building. Yeah, I should. And then be like,

oh, take the trash out. Maybe you'll see him. He wouldn't believe me because Carmelo Anthony hasn't played for the New York Knicks in 30 years. But I think- Who's the big Knicks? G. Barrett.

What's his name? R.J. Barrett? Or Julian? Do the Julius guy. No, no. I already, Julius Randall. I already played a prank on men RJ Barrett and Ben is obsessed with him yeah say that you heard he moved into the building and then

just like send him on all these errands for you so he could try and see him I just like seriously like I love Luann Dillisaps like I think she's one of the greatest women of our time I and I have loved her for so long and this is just like another for me like another notch in her belt of queendom yeah I mean he's not Kevin Costner but it'll do but it'll do it'll do I love and Bill Bouquet is the perfect place also just like a fun fact about the building that I used to live in that I've always wanted to talk about you know Naomi Camo when she threw her cell phone it It was in that building. Anything like iconic turdy memory in the building?

I mean, everything. Everything, but like what will they say? Like, oh, Claudia Asher used to live here and this is where... She lived in this building when she sold that Madison Square Garden. That's what they'd say. That's a good one. Hopefully, yeah. Or, I feel like I didn't have any like crazy emergencies, you know, never called the cops or an ambulance.

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as they head into their next season. Inside the tensions and tumult at Queer Eye. Queer Eye has a new member after Bobby Burke's departure as sources claim longstanding tension among the group and alleged rage issues with star Jonathan Van Ness. So there are a lot of accusations and just interesting damning tidbits in this article sort about the conception of the show, how the five guys got together, the Fab Five, how things were in the beginning, but how over the last few seasons, like they kind

of can't stand each other. No, and the show was supposed to end last year. Like they were sick of each other. I don't know one person that watches this show. It was a cultural phenomenon the first season a little bit so the second season and they keep winning Emmys. I've never heard of anybody watching the show. They keep getting renewed and they were finally going to end it last year but because of the writer's strike the Netflix like needed content immediately so they just renewed everybody's contract for four years. Right except I think the last season was really like the most difficult to

film in terms of personalities. I think some of them wouldn't even film together it was really hot where they were filming it's like a schedule from like September to June of filming and um you know so they don't love doing it and Bobby Burke like stuck with not wanting to do it anymore and didn't resign his contract but he didn't know that like no one else was going to and meanwhile Anthony and Tan like um nominated their friend who's an interior designer to take over for Bobby it was a little bit like subversion yeah Bobby didn't sign the contract with the general understanding that nobody else was going to but he was also just like prepared to leave and I think Tan and Anthony are the only two who are actually friends with one another yeah and they wanted their friend Jeremiah Brent tont to be the new bobby so they let bobby think that you know we're not resigning

boom two years later i have two seconds later everybody's resigning and there's a new bobby and his name is jeremiah yeah well i do think it's best for bobby that he goes i think also you know what's become like a meme on the internet of like bobby works so hard and caramo gives a pep talk caramo gives a pep talk and anthony slices an avocado yeah and they all get the airtime because bobby's actually doing work and like we're not going to see him like sawing wood yeah but he's working the hardest to turn around a house in four days like i think that actually started to wear on him according to the article because that is very real he's working harder than anyone he doesn't get as much more no not even but he's probably getting paid

less because he doesn't get as much screen time He should be paid more. No, not even. But he's probably getting paid less because he doesn't get as much screen time, which means that he'll never like be the fan favorite. But the breakout star from the show was Jonathan Van Ness. And the meat of the article is how this is a nasty person. Yeah, really bad. And they even went as far as to say like, honestly, none of them are beyond pleasant. They all rose to fame really quickly.

They're these kind of like divas. And that's to be expected. But given JVN's behavior, it's like the rest of them are angels. Yeah, I think the rest have expected diva behavior, but this is what the article says. Other members could also be difficult at moments, but Van Ness stood out in terms of unprofessionalism with his various moods dictating how the day would go, two sources say. Quote, when he comes on set, everything changes if he's in a bad mood. Working with him is very difficult in any capacity. His alleged two-faced behavior was disappointing,

a third production source says. Quote, as much good as he wants to do in the world, I think a lot of it is very hypocritical. There's a definite contrast between the principles and the values that Jonathan stands for publicly. They're really centered around having this warmth, love, and care for other people. There's a real contrast between that and the way that they treat the people who are closest to them across the board it's the opposite of what this person is touted and paid to be don't you find

that it's always always Ellen we're like sunshine Ellen love Ellen Ellen it's giving Ellen she ended her show every day every day she would end the show for what 20 years and don't forget be kind to one another and then she'd go back and slap someone like it's always the person who's like brand is kindness love joy charity empathy like it's so while it should be the most shocking that it was JV because if you were to say which one of these is going to be like the nastiest bitch you really really wouldn't have guessed JVN, but it's always the JVN. Yeah. Yeah.

So much so that production like had to talk to him at one point. They said nothing changed after that. And you know what? I'd like to thank Rolling Stone because I feel like there has been, especially since Bobby Burke left, there have been so many questions about the Queer Eye guys, especially like their friendships with one another. One of them got married.

Only one was invited on the bachelor party. People are always like their friendships with one another. One of them got married with all were, only one was invited on the bachelor party. People are always like doing their own research and digging like, what the fuck is up with Queer Eye? Thank you, Rolling Stone, for like actually doing an investigative piece on something someone was curious about. You know, like we're all wondering.

Thank you. Yeah, and they described it that it's like a boy band, except these boys, like men, were brought together late late like in their 30s and you're asking them to like be best friends and it's like they're all different people who maybe wouldn't have chose each other as friends plus you have the added element of stardom yeah and competitiveness and they have big personalities and yeah there's always going to be like people who are the favorites and get special treatment and then people who resent that especially when that person

is so nasty yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah what i also thought was interesting at the bottom of the article they were saying why um people were surprised that they still do the show even though it's like not what it was some speculate that despite the infighting and the tensions the other members agreed to return to queer eye because it serves as the main vehicle to keep their stardom afloat and support their separate ventures. Yeah of course. Some of which are floundering. So Tan France's next in fashion competition show with co-host Gigi Hadid stalled after two seasons on Netflix and he recently launched his own production company. JVN's popular podcast Getting Curious was refitted into a docuseries on Netflix which has gone dark after one season. Oh my god I didn't realize his podcast was over.

The main backer for their JVN hair care line went bankrupt, with the brand offloading it at a stunningly low price of $1.25 million. Yes, there was a huge, like people were freaking out about the JVN hair thing, because I actually use JVN hair, like it's pretty legit. And so for his, sorry sorry their company to get acquired for people were shocked at 1.25 million like it was really really low but the thing is is like they all like I remember because I was doing comedy the same time as JVN started doing comedy after I think like the first or second season and JVN did uh Radio City and it was like the biggest deal

and that's just like that's just the nature of fame. Like, you're never going to be at the top of your game for so, so, so long. Like, I feel like they all struck while the iron was hot. Yeah. And the iron's not hot. Yeah. Yeah, but you would hope that while the iron's hot, you like set something up so that like that's your thing now.

And that happens all the time. That's not specific to Queer Eye. That's anyone who goes on reality TV, like use that moment to build something that will last. And even though it's never going to maybe be as big as it once was, like it's enough. No, you have to think about also like the OG Queer Eye guys. Like the only one that I feel like is currently famous

and whose name I think I even know is Carson Kressley. Like, and he's been hustling his entire career like you you just don't get eternal fame easily yeah yeah so this was very interesting yeah and I wonder like what JVN is gonna do. I know. Because now these allegations are out there. And when you think about like JVN's fandom, it's like people who like would be mad about this. Like it's very, it's internet peeps, you know? Yeah, yeah.

They're not gonna be happy about this. No, and they're not gonna like let this be like, oh, JVN is misunderstood. They're gonna be like, we want accountability. Yeah, they're gonna want accountability. And I wonder if he'll hold himself accountable. I know. I feel like JVN's the type of person to do that but that you think so you think he will admit guilt I don't know I don't know I don't think so and like on what platform what do you think would be appropriate? I think he still has a podcast.

It was really popular. It was. JVN. Those three initials, man. No, they were, they launched a nation. Yeah. Oh, he still has this podcast. Yeah.

Jax, Jax, Jax, Jax. They. I checked. It's they, he and he and she oh it's all of them oh okay okay sorry i thought you're not gonna catch me out misusing pronouns it's not gonna happen it's all of the above go off queen go okay but like also just like all of them yeah no Jackie seriously I have a career to protect leave me alone okay leave me alone just gonna just gonna go with it okay let's go with it but anyways yeah you tried you tried to call me out it's not gonna work no no I just I'm really sorry because the article said they and I thought it was just they. No, I checked because there was a lot of pronouns swirling around. Girly swirling around?

They were girly swirling around the article. Okay. All right. Next up, we have got Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment where the girly swirlies write in and we do our absolute best to help them. Once a week, every Wednesday, you can write in deartoasters at gmail.com or head over to our website, thetoastpodcast.com and see what we can do for you, you know? All right.

Hello, my queens. To get to the point quickly, my gay friend and his husband approached me to be a surrogate for them. I already have a child with my husband, so it would not be my first pregnancy. I would be getting a huge amount of money and using a donor egg so I have no

ties to the child, but my husband does not want me to do it. He wants us to have another baby. But the reason we have not gotten pregnant again is because of money. If I do the surrogate, we would be in such a better financial place to have a baby of our own. So do I forget about the surrogacy because my husband isn't fully on board or do I consider this actually for the financial future of my family? So I have to say something because when I read this, I immediately wanted to share something Brian Kelly once told me because he obviously used a surrogate and he learned a lot

about surrogacy and he was like, it's really hard to become a surrogate and doing it for the money, like it's really not, what does that sound? Are you heavy breathing? Oh no, it's Bruno snoring across the room oh my god Jackie I thought you were pumping maybe oh my god no he's sitting with the flamingos and snoring but you can hear it because my computer volume but I don't think the mic can pick it up if you can't hear it it's my angel snoring I was like are you using a CPAP no honestly Bruno needs a CPAP you should see the the way that, I'm going to take a little video. You need to see the way he's sleeping.

Like it's too much. Maybe we'll post it to our reels. Maybe we'll post it to our reels. Okay, so what I was going to say was that Brian learned a lot about surrogacy, like journey. And he was like, in order to become a surrogacy, and like the women who become surrogates, they do it because they love it. Like you have to have this sort of desire doing it for the money is actually like a really really bad reason for doing it because it's much harder than you expect and you know with a regular pregnancy it's super tough but you know that

there's this thing waiting for you with a surrogacy there's really not anything waiting for money right but you get paid already like you get paid throughout like you have to do it for the love of the the journey doing it for the money is like a really bad reason to do it they they the women get like extensive they go through therapy they get like extensively interviewed it's really not a reason so that's all I'll say that's very interesting so then should surrogates like not get paid beyond what it costs calm down calm down no you know what I mean they should they should of course they I think that they should and I do think you need to have reasons other than the

money including the fact that like this is your best friend and you're going to give them a child and I feel like that could be motivating too yeah she didn't even mention that she was really just coming at it from a financial perspective. So yeah, I don't know. This isn't something like we can tell you or even your husband can tell you. It's true. Because this is a major, major decision

and I feel like there are other ways to make money. And if it's really about the money and you want to have another child, like there are other things you can do too. You don't, it doesn't mean you have to become a surrogate or you'll never like get your hands on that money. And usually like when we're talking about, you know, things our husband has,

have opinions on, I'm always like their opinion is irrelevant. They're dumb. Nothing they say matters. Do what you want. You, you, you. I actually feel like a husband has a right to an opinion here.

Now it's not like the most important one. It's not going to be the end all and be all and that's he makes the decision but you have to consider his feelings matter too yeah a thousand percent especially because it's not just like I don't want you to be pregnant it's like no because I want to have another child with you like it's not for nothing right and I don't know I'm slightly concerned that not once in this submission did you mention how good it would make you feel to give this gift to your friend like yeah I don't know, I'm slightly concerned that not once in this submission did you mention how good it would make you feel to give this gift to your friend. Yeah. I don't know.

No one can tell you what to do, but if I absolutely had to, I would tell you not to do it. Yeah. And because, by the way, obviously this is a couple of means. If they can pay you a lot of money, they can pay a professional surrogate too. That's true. So I want this couple to have a baby. I don't want to take the baby away from this couple but like I don't know if it should necessarily be you. I don't. It's just like it's such a huge thing. Yeah I think you might even be like underestimating

how huge it is. Just because you're blinded by the money and you've been pregnant before. Yeah I could see that. Our next year's host is really unlike anything I've ever heard. And it's a tough spot, okay? Hey, girlies. My really good friend is my hairstylist. Her husband passed away. And since then, the quality of her cuts are just getting progressively worse. I keep going strictly out of friendship and knowing that she probably needs the money. I've tried to be more vocal, bringing in photos.

I did space them out more. And my hair looks better the further from the appointment that I get but afterwards I feel so disheartened about how it looks I feel terrible that she's going through such a hard time but it's starting to take a toll on my hair what is the right thing to do here I think that you first of all how often are you getting your haircut like really I get my haircut like three or four times a year okay yeah I feel like that's a normal amount of time to get your haircut and how but it seems like there's been a number of bad haircuts how long is she like actually in the throes of grieving that she can't do her job but if this continues to be an issue like all of a sudden she lost her haircutting powers right like her like uh what's Samson yeah like Samson

I would go to her for a haircut say like just a trim so that you can support her and be there for her and then you know next week book a proper haircut down the street. I completely agree. Like seriously, say I want a one inch trim, no layers. Like say nothing. You don't want anything creative. And that's you being a good friend. And you can't say anything and you can't leave.

No. This is your way of supporting a friend financially. Like that's, who needs you? It is what it is. It is what it is. And that's actually really good advice that Jackie gave you. Thank you.

Like, half an inch. Yeah, like just quick trim. Quick trim. like just a blowout. Oh my God.

Yes. I'm growing my hair out. Can I get just a blowout? And then go get your haircut. Oh my God. Brilliant. That's up just to blow out and then go get your haircut oh my god brilliant or even brilliant brilliant idea or even get your haircut right before and be like look how healthy my hair is looking i'm gonna keep growing it just to blow out please yeah or like something harmless like a like a clear gloss you know like if you really want to give the money oh what is what's a clear gloss it just makes like like if you really want to give her the money. Oh, what is,

what's a clear gloss? It just makes like your, uh, your hair shiny. Have you ever done that? No, but I've been told, um,

by my hairstylist who's fabulous. Like if ever feel like my hair is getting dull, a clear, is it called a clear gloss? Yeah. Yeah. Sounds right. Um,

I think you can get one that's like not clear if you color your hair, but like a clear gloss just makes it like a nice little shiny. Pretty, but you have shiny hair. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. gloss just makes it like a nice little shiny. Pretty, but you have shiny hair. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I just know it's a thing. I've never gotten one, I swear. Oh my God, imagine that was your big secret.

No, I swear to God, I've never gotten clear gloss. Because people always are commenting on how shiny your hair is. And it's just God-given. I hate to be so annoying, but it is. Like, I don't do anything crazy. Maybe it's because you don't do anything crazy. Perhaps. Untouched by man.

Untouched by man. Our third and final, dear toasters. Dear toasters, am I being judgy? My husband and I have been married for five years. He's very rough and tough. He's into all things outdoors, like hunting, fishing, hiking, et cetera. I'm just fishing and loving every day.

Every morning and evening. Okay. I was driving his car last week and I found tanning goggles in his car. I asked him about them and he admitted that he goes to the tanning beds occasionally. When he told me that, I immediately got the ick and I feel weird about him going to a tanning bed. I know it's his body and his decision, but please tell me that like I need to get over it. But how? Icky, sticky, sticky, sticky bubble gum. Bubble gum. Bubble gum. This is different. This is different. So obviously it's icky, but it's also not really a healthy habit. True. You can always come at it from that angle. UV, cancer, you know, et cetera. Melanoma.

Yeah. But like, what is he doing? No, I'm sorry. It's so fraudulent. And also like to tan frequently enough that you have your own goggles. And is there in your pickup truck? And like, because you want to look more outdoorsy. Oh, I didn't even put that together.

Yeah, like he wants to have that natural glow. Like I've been spending so much time outside. Wait, hold on. I want to see. Is this her husband or her boyfriend? Because if it's a boyfriend, they have to break up. No, it's her husband. Okay.

It's not. It's definitely jailbreak for a boyfriend, but like you're married. So like it's good. Okay. On the other hand, like it's not everyone entitled to their vices and their guilty pleasures and their bad behavior that's not hurting anyone? Well, it is hurting someone. His skin.

Like, seriously. I think if you really wanted to get him to stop, you could, A, come at it from the health angle. Like, give me some pamphlets. So bad for you. Two, you could offer to tan with him in the real world. To tan with him, yeah. Outdoors.

Like, it's not amazing, but it's better than the bed. Yeah, I think you should approach it from like, this is a bad habit, not an icky habit. Like, this is an unhealthy habit that we should help you break. I implore you to use the word hazardous.

To your health. Yeah, look up some facts. Melanoma, I mean, it shouldn't be hard. They're so bad for you. I implore you to use the word hazardous to your health. Yeah. Look up some facts. Melanoma. I mean, it shouldn't be hard. They're so bad for you. What if he says, okay, I want to start getting spray tans. Oh, fuck.

You know what? I'm so glad that you had that thought. I feel like men wouldn't want to. What? Yeah, because they see it as like makeup. They see it as makeup. It's smelly. Most men don't like the smell of spray tans and they think of it as like orange yeah yeah but he could or no so okay if he

wants a spray tan be like okay great super healthy and then you book him the worst most orange spray tan in town and you tell the girls doing it like make it horrible. Give her a little extra. Cash on the side. And he'll never want one again. Yeah. The thing is, like, I get it. Do you know how many times I've really just wanted to, like, go to a tanning bed once a week? Do you know how much better my life would be if I had a consistent year round,

like, real tan, not spray? Like, and I hold myself back. And I live a public life. Like, I'm on camera every day. So if I can hold myself back, your fucking husband can. Okay? Oh, it's not even something that ever crosses my mind. Oh my God.

It crosses my mind all the time. Yeah. Have you ever been in one? Yes. Once. When? Like a million years ago. It was like low-key scary.

I'm like, what if I get stuck in here? Yeah. That is scary. Like a hyperbaric chamber, it felt like. Yeah. I feel like you wouldn't like that no it actually genuinely felt like a coffin so for that reason you shouldn't want one anyway yeah but let me tell you like do you ever just think about you go 15 minutes like once a week you're for always really tan like not spread real tan legs you go in naked like it's everywhere I've never thought about it honestly and I don't want to because it's like I don't I'm missing something I don't even know

oh my god I think about it all the time I need like Elon somebody to make one that's like really good for you I feel like Elon could it's just like he's he's busy solving larger problems like no I'm not I'm not saying this is an important problem, but like if, unless you could get it to a place where like it would affect the future of civilization, like he's not going to put his mind to it. I know,

but I need someone maybe a little less smart and like socially conscious than Elon. I need someone in tech to work on this. It's, it's really, I'm telling you if you made like an actually, it doesn't have to be like good for you, but not horrible, like cancerous tanning bed.

Oh my God. I would be an investor. Like I would do anything for that. You know who I feel like could do it? Let me think. Who like works in beauty tech? I don't know who. Bridget Mendler.

1000%. You know who I thought you were going to say? I feel like this could it wouldn't because it's not a part of like korean beauty standard i actually like was watching a video once on korean beauty standard how they really value like pale skin yeah but if being tan was like a beauty like a valuable beauty standard in korea they would have made it because korean beauty is the best it's like so good for you it's magic yada yada they would have done it yeah i need the koreans on this asap but maybe there's a reason that they don't

they haven't yeah i feel like also elizabeth holmes could have done it if we hadn't stopped her if we hadn't like squashed out her spirit and her yeah we hadn't crushed her ingenuity we hadn't crushed her dreams snuffed out that flame that spark that entrepreneurial spirit i'm sure she's gonna do big things when she's out i it's a free idea i won't even like i won't even ask for a percentage like please somebody do it okay but if you if someone made it would you let this girl's husband use it? Oh, I forgot we were helping someone else. I so got sidetracked with my own issues. No.

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