The Toast - Institutional Suspicions: Monday, June 3rd, 2024

Episode Date: June 3, 2024

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Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to the shows and happy Monday. Ah, you know, like there's no getting around it. It is what it is. Let's face the facts. Yeah. Turtle squirtle. Look at it this way. Every Monday is one step closer to us being together for our summer of love.

Summer lovin'. Had me a blast. So true, actually. Yeah, I guess we have to get through today and also it's June which means like it's the month that we're doing like our first set of live shows like not me being nervous it's coming up so our first shows are June 27th and 28th at the Beacon Theater they're sold out so don't even try but um people are so excited like so many people are like are you so excited for the shows like I'm coming to show or my friend is coming to show. Like everyone's talking about the shows. I'm like, yeah, I'm excited.

But like I can't be just excited. Like we also have to perform. We have work to do. We've got work to do. So it is a lot of fun and games, but not all fun and games for your girls. All fun and games for you guys who are just there to have a good ass time. Yeah, I ran into like probably 45 toasters this weekend. And single person was like we're coming we're coming we're coming. So it's kind of the talk of the ton if you will. Yeah. And yeah we have um we you know we have to

do the work so we can't just like enjoy it. Speaking of the ton yesterday I was talking to someone and she goes you know you look like that girl from Bridgerton and I'm like which one it's important yeah and she couldn't get the name and I'm like I need to know which one before I leave I didn't have my phone on me I couldn't start googling she had only seen like one season she couldn't like put her finger on obviously talking about Daphne season she couldn't like put her finger on obviously talking about Daphne all's to say we got to the bottom of it she was talking about Daphne so generous so sweet it's so nice when people just and you know I always say celebrity doppelgangers the dangerous game could really hurt someone's feelings I was in dangerous waters there because I had no way a lot of people there's a lot of people they all look different and I a lot of people. They all look different.

And I've never gotten, I look like anyone from Bridgerton. So I didn't know who she was going to say. You get Madelaine Petsch, correct? Is that like the one? Oh, let me just say like she was an older lady. I was shocked she watches Bridgerton. Right. She certainly hasn't watched Riverdale.

Yeah, I mostly get Madelaine Petsch. I also get Jessica Chastain. And now I get Phoebe Deniver love that for me by the way I don't not see it oh my god thank you speaking of Bridgerton I really watched so much TV this weekend like the girl who's sitting in front of you I'm so educated I know so much and the thing is I'm feeling very suspicious of my my institutions I've I'm having very little to no faith in you And the thing is, I'm feeling very suspicious of my institutions. I'm having very little to no faith in, you know, the banks, the government. I don't know.

I watched The Big Short. I have a lot of thoughts thinking of pulling all my money out of the bank and putting it under my mattress. Yeah. Then I watched Chernobyl. Thankfully, I don't live in the USSR or that region. So I can't apply that to my situation but you know a government is a government I could totally see America doing like similar shady shit so I don't know I'm feeling very suspicious of my surroundings today yeah did you like those pieces of content that I've been

begging you to watch for years I also shut up watch I'm asking you yeah yeah wait I'm gonna go through all them so I started with Pearl, which I told you I had wanted to watch. Have you seen it? I have. And it's like drama. Yeah, so it's not. It's like a soap opera. It's not true. It's historical fiction.

Like, yes, Pearl Harbor happened, but these people, like, didn't exist, nor did this love triangle. It's very swirly. It's not very serious. It was extremely good. The love triangle, I was obsessed with. And I also don't remember a time I probably wasn't socially conscious to remember a time where Ben Affleck with was that hot oh my god like yeah that's why we still talk about him today you know that's why he's so such

a no it makes sense like oh my god like seriously I don't know if I've ever seen someone so hot in my life like he was he's hotter than Harry Styles back then like I I seriously I don't he's just like so all-american looking very chiseled jaw he had this sort of like lighter hair oh my god I was like really I've never once thought much about Ben Affleck like from like a handsome perspective to me he's just always been this guy you know with his coffee yeah yeah yeah no I totally get it Kate Beckinsale oh my god like so gorgeous that we've been new but I did feel like I found myself Googling a lot. It didn't do a good job of like explaining because I still don't understand

like how Japan was involved in World War II. It was like, seriously, like they were begging for attention. That's what it seems like to me. Everyone's fighting. You're so desperate for attention. It's getting pathetic. And so you just had to go kill 3,000 Americans

because you wanted some attention. And the way they did it was hella duplicitous. Like not you pretending you're in peace negotiations while you're planning this mass, like that's a violation of international law. So I don't know. I left it feeling like, oh, okay. I know I'm a little late, but still mad at Japan.

And then having watched Oppenheimer recently. Having watched, and then also having watched Chernobyl. They should go hand in hand. In Chernobyl, they kept comparing it to Hiroshima, which is, I think like, you know,

up until that point was like the worst radiation the world had ever seen. And then Chernobyl was like, hold my BRB. So all the things I watched were interconnected. I did really like Pearl Harbor. As we are as human beings throughout history. I learned nothing other than the fact

that Ben Affleck used to be extremely handsome. And Josh Hartnett too. I'm not like a Josh Hartnett girly, but I see it. Then I watched The Big Short the next night.

You learned nothing from Pearl Harbor? Nothing. Okay, because it just sounded like If anything, I was left with more questions. It just sounded like you learned nothing

in general. I'm like, that doesn't sound right. Okay. No, I learned nothing learned nothing from Pearl Harbor like I need to watch another movie about Japan like or read a book I'm still not understanding like how did we get here like seriously who are you like who are you in all of this yeah then I watched the big short which I had started once on an airplane and I remember thinking it wasn't good, but I was on an airplane. You were obviously in a bad mood. Not happy to be here. I was alive.

I was in the eighth grade in 2008. I remember things were different, but I don't obviously, I wasn't a person with a bank account, so I didn't really know the true effects of the situation. So let me tell you that shit was fucked up. Again, I don't know I'm feeling very wary

Of my financial institutions I thought the movie was great I thought they really Did a good job of explaining Something that was super complicated Like obviously I don't understand CDO Credit debt

But then they have like Selena Gomez Like at the card table Explaining it in layman's terms Margot Robbie in a bathtub Loved And it actually I didn't like fully understand everything But I got the gist at the card table explaining it in layman's terms. Margot Robbie in a bathtub. Loved. And it actually, I didn't like fully understand everything,

but I got the gist. I thought everyone did such a great job in the movie, like obsessed with Steve Carell. Like I know I'm so late. Like I'm literally recapping like Oscar winning movies from 15 years ago. Loved it. Like seriously loved it. And I guess, you know, me and Ben were having this sort of

like ethical question that it poses at the end is like, there were like five or six people who benefited greatly financially from the downfall of the housing market, which literally ruined, like, millions of lives. But, like, first of all, even if they had, like, told the world, no one would have believed them. No one would have believed them. No one was believing them. Two, them, like, benefiting like benefiting greatly like did it hurt people more kind of I guess because the banks like then had to pay out these people I don't think instead

of like paying out someone's pension I I don't think so and then the thing that really pissed me off as a taxpayer which you know I have this sort of you know enraging moment once a year um but seeing it played out for me in Hollywood it really bothered me so not only did this housing crisis like literally destroy people's lives the regular American those regular Americans were then the people who saved these moronic banks who were like literally it's your job to figure out that something like this is going to happen so not only did you not figure it out you were a part of it and to make sure that doesn't happen but also they were being nefarious actors like selling things that as triple rated and then the the triple rating agencies the rating agencies right no i seriously

i'm mad i'm feeling like maybe i'm not gonna pay my taxes this year everyone could eat my ass turtle squirtle no i'm kidding you guys that's obviously a joke irs i pay i overpay i just got my my i'm so afraid of going to jail but um i don't know it's really not cool definitely makes me think about moving to the Caymans. Like that's for sure. Yeah. Super frustrating. I don't think they would pull that shit in the Caymans.

I don't know. I couldn't say. I don't know what goes on there. The only thing I know about the Caymans banking is from the other woman. That was the Bahamas. But okay. Tax free banking. Yeah. Then I watched Chernobyl last night.

Because I put something on my Instagram. Like guys what should I watch? I'm into this like whole vibe of watching things based on true stories did Bruno enter the room Bruno's here I didn't realize I left the door pushable Bruno you want to come Jackie was subconscious you always leaving space for Bruno no it was subconscious Bruno heard us talking about financial decline he said hey you got anyone to tell a story he has a story to tell so actually a bunch of people had recommended Chernobyl you included like a million years ago He said hey You got any tips He wanted to tell a story He has a story to tell So actually A bunch of people Had recommended Chernobyl You included

Like a million years ago But then Snooki Wrote Chernobyl I was like oh wow Sometimes it's the same message But a different messenger Thousand percent And after the first episode

I definitely didn't want To keep watching it Because it's so grim And it's not like fabulous In any way And everything is just gray The buildings The clothes People's skin Like so gray and morose.

And me and Ben were like, oh my God, this is so depressing. But we had already put in an hour and everybody's like, it's so good. It's so good. It's so good. No, it was good. And again, something I really did not know about and learned a lot, of course. Oh my God, that shit was upsetting. Like seriously.

And then I went on to, and they, at the end, the best part of it was the end where the black screen and the white text where you learn what really went down, that shit was upsetting. Like seriously. And then I went on to, and at the end, the best part of it was the end where the black screen and the white text where you learn what really went down, you know? Yeah, when they cut to the chase. When they cut to the chase. And basically like the USSR, you covered the whole thing up

and they basically to this day say that only 31 people died from Chernobyl, which is like obviously not correct. And then I went on Wikipedia and literally Wikipedia still says 30 people died Is that crazy? Excuse? Yeah

Like maybe 30 people died at the site I don't know I just feel like that's misleading Extremely And it's at the top where they just like sum everything up for you you know Yeah So yeah I just feel like there's still a Chernobyl cover-up going on and don't you find one of the common threads through most of the things that you watch not Pearl Harbor really but a common thread in a lot of these things is that the people who see these things early on who see the truth are called the crazy ones same with Titanic the people who thought

it was going to sink and got on the ships. Well, that's true. It's also, like, especially with the big sharks, that happened, you know, in our lifetime here in our country. It's really hard not to, like, become really crazy and, like, paranoid. Like, seriously, because then at the end they were like, okay, so the government, like, barred these CDOs, which were, like, these really fraudulent loans that were designed to destroy the economy. And so, obviously, like, they weren't allowed to be made anymore but then like a couple of years later they like changed the name and just

made like a different and they're still being like given to people today so it's really hard not to become like super suspicious and like become Brad Pitt in that movie like Brad Pitt became like super rich in finance like saw the underbelly and left and like started growing his own seeds in Colorado and like not fucking his own bread and not fucking with these institutions anymore so it's really hard because I feel like once you start like yeah no seriously I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have to live in cash like I'm gonna have to live off the grid if I if I if I really look into things so I don't know it left me feeling hella suspicious I think it's good to have a degree of suspicion in your life don't just

be trusting of things that you cannot see and people that you do not know. A healthy amount of doubt, I think, is healthy. Yeah, but of course it can overtake your life. You've got to live, Laturd. And I can't live. I can't. Can I tell you why? Sure.

Like, a couple of minutes before my alarm went off this morning, I, like, flipped. You know, I always flip. I flip them one time. Classic. Boom. Pulled my neck out. In my sleep. Oh, man, I woke up with a horrible pain.

I literally, thank God, I have to look right because I can't look left. I have been having back and neck trouble, too. Like, I feel like my back and neck are constantly on the verge of going. And it has to do with the way I'm sleeping, the position that I'm sleeping in. I don't know what I'm doing. I keep trying to be mindful. I switch down to one pillow so that, like, I'm not at a weird angle. But is this just, you know what I was thinking yesterday?

Like, is this just mean like getting old? Like where you have creaks and things are out and things hurt and you wake up and you like, as you sit up, it's just like all comes to pass. Like, yes, when you're 50, like we're not. But maybe it's like even worse at 50. And this is just the slow decline. You know, my knees have been hurting me too. That's a runner's knee.

I know. That's a sign of a runner. It makes me feel like kind of like cool and special to talk about it and complain out, like out loud. Like me and Ben were walking. I was like, oh, my knees from my run this morning. Like I need people to know. People, at least you use your platform to let them know.

Yeah. Let them know. Let them know, sister. How was your weekend? My them know. Yeah. Let them know. Let them know, sister. How was your weekend? My weekend was so wonderful. We were really outside all weekend. Like I've got the sunburn to prove it. I forgot to put sunscreen on my back.

I don't know how I forgot that. But I feel like when you have kids, it's like you're so worried about them wearing sunscreen. Like it didn't even occur to me. Thankfully, sunscreen is in my skincare routine. So my face was okay. But the back got a little red. can you do it's a sign of a good weekend I know it sounds like I spent a lot like my whole weekend inside based on what I watched but that was just at night Friday Saturday Sunday I was outside as well I went golfing on Saturday oh good good and then at night I read for the redheads lady tan circle of women you guys this book is amazing

oh my god it's a real quality book. Transports you to a time and place. We're learning things. Like I just keep highlighting things that I find so interesting. I think I'm 60. We're recording tomorrow. I think I'm like 65% of the way through.

I'm like, should I finish this this afternoon or save it for the evening? Like I'm really enjoying it. So never too late to become a redhead. Also, my friends were at Colgate reunion this weekend. So our 10-year college reunion can you believe so I didn't want to bring it up because obviously I follow all your friends on social media and I saw like the weekend I didn't want to like rub it in like why weren't

you there I heavily considered whether or not to go and how to go and if I would bring my family and if I weren't going to bring my family is that how I want to spend a weekend off no yeah no and then I got the I got recapped this morning and I even though I was watching and like I had FOMO and it looked really fun like I felt good about my decision okay yeah for a second I was like maybe fuck should I have gone and then after the recap I was like no I think I did the right thing but it looked really great and 10 years that's that's a lot of years no it's so depressing when those milestones come up like I think like a year ago I hadn't I actually couldn't go because I was working but it was my 10-year high school reunion like not cool I guess that would mean my 15-year

high school reunion is next year yes I haven't maybe you should fly in for it I would I haven't gotten any comms and I think maybe our my 10-year was during COVID because I don't maybe you should fly in for it I would I haven't gotten any comms and I think maybe our my 10 year was during COVID because I don't think that happened because I would go to that that's just an evening Jackie I actually remember it was during COVID and it was on zoom oh right and I didn't join and I actually think people were bummed like I remember getting like some comms being like oh we thought you were gonna come like someone was so and so's wife is a big toaster right comms okay it's giving comms wait do I look different uh yes why because you're wearing your aura ring okay I just a list of things like taxes I'm obsessed let me tell you like visually I don't think it's like the most gorgeous thing and I

don't know how they fit all this tech into this ring but I do wish it was smaller but like it's still really amazing yeah of course of course um love learning so much about myself love all the data and it does definitely get you to do more because you want to like hit your activity goal so I'm like all right let me just like walk to the grocery store instead of taking a cab like I I like it um I'm still figuring out you know aesthetically like how to style my my jewelry because it's definitely not an eyesore but it's not the most gorgeous thing on the planet no I think the way to wear it Is to have a lot of rings

And it's just like One of many gold rings On your finger But I'm not one of those people So I need to like Go and get some rings To hide it Accessorize

Yeah but then all of a sudden I'm wearing a million rings And I'm supposed to be more active I don't think so No totally And like I'm so paranoid Of like doing something And it not getting logged

In my aura. Well, I just want to say, I feel like aura ring doesn't make mistakes. You know, that's what I- So far, so good. But on Saturday, I went for a run slash walk outside and it was not picked up. Meanwhile, I tried on some clothes for 15 minutes and they were like, workout detected.

Jackie, I blew out my hair standing up and they said it was a workout. That is so funny. I got ready for the day. Which I love. I got ready for the day yesterday and they were like workout detected. Jackie, I blew out my hair standing up and they said it was a workout. That is so funny. I got ready for the day. Which I love. I got ready for the day yesterday and they were like workout. I was like, no, just me squeezing

into a bathing suit, but thanks. Honestly, workout. But like I actually worked out on Saturday and it didn't log it and I didn't hit my activity goal that day. And like, does ordering make mistakes? It's something I just want to know if it's possible Oh well also

You know what it could have been And I've heard this If you are wearing an Apple watch or an aura ring And you're pushing a stroller Which I was And your hand is on the stroller Oh yeah for sure But it should have picked up my heart rate

And that's why so many people Like push their strollers with one hand Because the other hand is doing the tracking But like I'm sorry I need two hands on the double stroller. Yeah yeah yeah. Like it's a heavy thing. Once again motherhood is a sacrifice for your data. I think that's okay so now I know I should put it on my toe.

They should make an aura toe ring. Just like an anklet. We need to figure out the stroller thing because also like when my phone is in my stroller and I go for a walk the phone doesn't pick up steps either even before I was elevated and had an aura ring but like now neither of you guys do like that's where we take our walks so you know what I know in my heart I hit my activity goal on Saturday I was feeling like a little down a little less than because I hadn't no for sure but yeah it was a long run and walk both my heart rate but why didn't it get my heart rate up this is a question for aura herself the oracle

speak to actually I feel like now some mamas will give me some tips um if you have an aura ring and the stroller like what are we doing what are we doing no I really love it I want to say thank you so much like I I really love it like I'm really I'm excited about I wake up every morning like what is my sleep score I wake up yeah me too what is my readiness for the day to take on the day correct well I'm so glad that slowly but surely you come around to my suggestions that's kind of the theme thus far thus far today yeah it's it's a joy whenever you do yeah no it definitely like is annoying for sure I I know that um just I'm working on my I think we're all just like working on our own timelines yeah you gotta run your own race exactly and that's exactly what I'm

doing yeah you are actually running but no I'm glad also do you know that you could sync auras so that like we we could be aura-ing together on the app? Like competitive? I don't like competition, though. I don't like that either. Like I said, I'm running my own race. But I could get to see, like, oh, what's Turdy gotten up to today?

How's Turdy feeling? What's Turdy's readiness? Is Turdy relaxing? Maybe I shouldn't call her. Maybe I should. I feel like data's so private. You know, I'm going to keep my data private. You don't want to just share it with your swirly?

I don't know. Okay. Okay, Turdy, I'll try not to take it personally. How are the stories today? I mean, it's Monday, so they're usually pretty good. Yeah, they're good. That's good. They are good.

I was just organizing them, doing some org. Org. Org and comms this morning. Anything else we need to like chit chat about Promote you know divest Sanction Divulge Divulge I used the wrong word

No I don't think so I feel caught up And if anything arises we could always slip it in We make the rules We do We don't run things things don't run we we run things things don't run we that's the truth ain't it it ain't no it is okay with that kerfuffle it's time for the fast five stories that you need to know and the fast five stories that you need to know are brought to you by Taylor Farms Mini Chopped Salad Kits.

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carawayhome.com slash toaster or use code toaster at checkout for 10% off caraway home products and an automatic 20% off that stainless steel cookware this week. So caraway, it's non-toxic cookware, and it's made modern. Thank you, La. You're welcome. Our first story is, you know, the developing news of the big story of the season and also one of Trudy's new favorite handsome people. Jennifer Lopez. Now I care. Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck were spotted together attending his son's basketball game.

The PDA is being analyzed. There was a kiss on the cheek. You know, they're saying they're avoiding locking lips. However, what I'm seeing is a couple together in public being cute. I think his mom was there too. They were going to the 12-year-old son's basketball game. And this bodes well, wouldn't you say, La? Well, this is coming off the heels.

And of course, it happened like the second we wrapped Friday's episode. J-Lo announced. We've been talking a lot about her tour, poor ticket sales, perhaps Vegas. It's been a lot of question marks around this tour, and perhaps like her taking on something, betting off more than she could chew. And the tour has now been canceled. They released, you know, kind of a Friday afternoon announcement is a strategy. And people were talking about it. Now, I did look into some of the numbers from her sale like how many tickets she actually sold it wasn't abysmal it wasn't obviously like a banger sellout but it was decently full I would say like most of the venues were like 70% and you know you sell a lot of

tickets the week of so I didn't really think it was and they're big venues so 70% that still have seats. I know. So I don't know how all these things are interconnected. You know, the rumors about Ben Affleck and her. Whose basketball game was this, soccer? His son, Samuel. So if you're like a relatively new stepmom, and I don't know the stepmom playbook here, and you're having trouble with the boy's father you're separated like are you going to the boys game I don't think so also like Jennifer

Garner was in attendance too like I don't think it was necessary that J logo and I also don't think that they would use the kids sporting event as like a PR moment as a key PR I know it's wrong I think it's all it's good maybe they're having issues I mean also it's like when it rains of tourism when things aren't good professionally like that can put pressure on your relationship seep into stuff you don't know if you're heading to Vegas to live there for a while if you're going out on multi-city tour like I think you know but two things can be true and we can hold space for both law yeah I am feeling like bad for JLo like they're making it seem like her career is tanking her marriage is tanking um and that actually like might be true but it also might not be true I think even if it is true she's a fighter she's not going she's not

going down quietly down like this and not at all. And I'm rooting for her. Her statement regarding the tour cancellation was very vague. Yeah. It didn't cite a particular reason, which I think would lead people to believe that it was due to poor sales, but the sales weren't poor. I think it gives credence to that Vegas thing. Like, you know what?

Let's focus on Vegas. Especially if the Vegas bigwigs are now getting like a little nervous nervous then let's get all 70 percent of those ticket sales and get them to Vegas now speaking of Ben Affleck an interesting part when I was watching Pearl Harbor is that you know who's in the movie not a major role but not a small one when is Jennifer Garner so that is where they met but she was married at the time like it wasn't they didn't

like start dating till three years later interesting yeah I was shocked to see her in the movie she looked so different like she's there are so many people in the movie like it's

it's such an old movie but so many people in there are still famous which is so crazy like I think because it was so successful yeah who's that girl it's what's her name she's friends with Taylor Swift and she's in Heart of Dixie what is her name Jamie King what's her name King thank you she's

like kind of a star in it too oh cute yeah I think that was like her big moment so it's really crazy um the cultural impact of that movie given how much time has passed. So do I think this, well, then Ben Affleck was also spotted over the weekend, like picking his kid up from school and he was like holding a hoodie and the hoodie was like wrapped around his left hand. So like you couldn't see

if he was wearing his ring or not. But if he wanted people to think he's wearing his ring, he would just wear it. I don't think Ben Affleck is sly like that yeah I also think Ben Affleck is just um paparazzi a lot especially these days I think he always has been but it's obviously been another level this last let's say a couple of years but specifically this year so maybe he was literally in this one shot just like holding the hoodie in that hand

right yeah because he is wearing his ring in these pictures and there hasn't been like an any actual documentation no like legal separation like this is all just rumors this is rumors but they really did reach a fever pitch and it did sound like confirmed confirmed and then the tour I don't know where that plays into this I don't think it does I just think it's like when it rains it pours and that's just life so you think there's a world in rains, it pours. And that's just life. So you think there's a world in which all of this could just be kind of explained away?

Like the rumors were a lie and the tour is about Vegas? No. I'm saying like, I don't think her marriage is suffering because her tour suffered. I think she just like, just like sometimes when

everything's coming up you. In the other way, like, and I feel like that's just what happened between them. Like what goes up must come down and she's just experiencing it down. But I don't think the tour being canceled has to do with her relationship I don't think her relationship has to do with the tour sales being bad I think they're two separate things but right because the way that it looked to a lot of people it's a hard

time for one girl and that's what it looked like to people like her marriage is falling apart she's heartbroken she can't go on tour I don't think so okay I think she's fighting a war on two fronts yeah I would love to know what's actually going on like genuinely this being spec like speculatory is one of my favorite hobbies but like now I'm just the curiosity has gotten to me I need to know what's going on yeah me too and I also just want to know like where these things came from like maybe they're having a hard time as a couple like not in the realm of like getting divorced or anything but like she's having a hard time professionally so maybe she's not like the happiest she's ever been and that's a strain on their relationship but he's there for her and like maybe they have a friend

who just like went and told an outlet like that they're having a hard time and it's like that's private yeah I don't know it's it's definitely like a lot of evidence if you will what evidence in their matrimony I don't know and then like him covering his hand but that can be explained away yeah and then you know people were saying the paparazzi pictures of them at the soccer game like they embraced sort of as comrades I keep saying comrades because It's literally every other word in Chernobyl It was a very affectionless

It was a kiss on the cheek I don't need a kiss at the baseball game There are children around Yeah hey how you doing Hey How y'all doing Yeah So that's the latest and greatest With them Hey, how y'all doing? Yeah.

So that's the latest and greatest with them. I wouldn't say the greatest, but I would say the latest. Are you ready for our next story, which is about the greatest? Yeah. The greatest, Miley Cyrus, is on the cover of W Magazine, the pop issue, giving an interview about her recent success, the Grammys, what's going on with Miley everything's coming up Miley and now and now we've said it and now we've said it so as much as Miley is happy and thankful for her Grammy she's still a little miffed miffed she's asking why did

the Grammys wait 20 years to take me seriously so in a new interview she wondered why she had to wait decades to get respect from her Peers in the music industry despite Making a splash early on in her career And multiple times over the years Actually true yeah because of course you Think about I mean I think about the Climb and that era but also like

Wrecking ball we can't be tamed we can't Stop oh my god we run things Things Don't Run, We. And before Flowers, she had been nominated one time for a Grammy for pop vocal album for bangers, which is fair. And she didn't win, which I don't know that she, I don't know who else won. Needed to.

But she's had a lot of success. So here's what she had to say. She said, I've had a hard time figuring out what the measurement is there. Because if we want to talk stats and numbers, then where the fuck was I? And if you want to to talk stats and numbers, then where the fuck was I? And if you want to talk like impact on culture, then where the fuck was I? She said, this is not about arrogance.

I'm just proud of myself. Yeah, no, I like that at the actual event, she didn't obviously like harbor any ill will. And she was, you could see through her performance and her speeches, like she was so excited and so happy. And like it really came through as really genuine but like now yeah let's talk about it I like holding like let's speak the truth not just like it's an honor to be nominated like where the fuck were I was I yeah I like that I like that too and when you do take a look at her you know discography and career at a glance there are many peaks that had like huge cultural impacts like you're right like the wrecking ball we can't stop like there was a time like that was so we

can't stop but feels like a lifetime ago but it really was this insane moment in culture and it was the song of that year whatever I what year was that maybe 2013 yeah yeah it's it's worth noting that it definitely feels like she's been largely ignored by by the Grammys but the Grammys are just weird yeah they are and then I feel like once they embrace someone they just like they don't let them go even when it's not their time and then they're just kind of like late to other people but then also early for other people if you look at the best new artist category I feel like that's the most fascinating because that's the most predictive and it's like you can tell where they were right and where they were wrong yeah and there are people who won best new artist and went on to

do nothing and then there are people who were nominated for it who are the biggest stars in the world and who lost right now you can't obviously predict everything accurately but it does feel like the Grammys are not a meritocracy it's very political and i think a lot of um artists have been vocal about that and it's annoying like you have to play the game and and you know do the circuit and it's annoying because you should just be like which song was the biggest and the best the end yeah also the pictures from this interview are just sickening so she's touching on a couple things because i was like is she doing new music like why are we getting miley but she's actually being honored at the disney legends award ceremony this year she's getting like a couple things because I was like, is she doing new music? Like, why are we getting Miley? But she's actually being honored at the Disney Legends Award Ceremony this year. She's getting like a Legends Award from Disney. She'll be the youngest honoree.

She talked a little bit about her time at Disney. And this is what she had to say. She said, it's a place to celebrate the journey of both being on and graduating from Disney. It was a great, safe experience overall. People have 50 or 60 year long careers, but mine has been close to 20 years. I'm 31. I've been in the public for my life more than I haven't they say that the creative adult is the child who survived I worked really hard as a child I didn't go to prom I didn't go to dances I didn't have so much of that social experience or time for friends Disney they were doing very

well off the amount of work that I was putting in as a child I don't have any bad feelings about that it's just the truth and so I think they have to give me this award. I'm excited to celebrate with the fans. No, it's really nice. And this never happens with child stars. Either like after the child stardom, like things go badly. I know we know a million stories like that.

Or, you know, they go on to have illustrious careers, but what comes out from their time at those places is so horrible. And I think there are so many people in the culture who started at Disney Jonas Brothers Selena Gomez Demi Lovato Miley Cyrus and for the most part it doesn't seem like that was the culture at Disney and that's like such a relief yeah um to hear I mean by the way when you think about it like Shia LaBeouf Ravensbone like it really kind of is endless it's really crazy um and so every time that's sort of Vanessa Hudgens Zac Efron sorry every time that's reiterated by a cast by a celebrity like Miley

like it it's good because that those shows really raised us and I think we're all just coming off of the quiet on set documentary which was like couldn't have been more disappointing if we if it tried like it was just so bad it was so corrupt it was so evil and so the rival network at the time it was really like Disney versus Disney versus like it appears as though like everything was kosher at Disney and the more we hear like the more good it is Kenny Ortega so like thank god however we also saw in Quiet On Set how that convicted child sex offender was hired by Disney for Suite Life on Deck so things are not kosher over there whole and entirely like how do you have someone with a record against children hired on a children's show shit no you're right fuck so you still have to be questioning things but I think

when someone like shares a positive experience it's like it's a relief for sure it is and especially for us like Hannah Montana was so important to us like seriously we can't minimize the impact and the importance that show like had it was just it was our show yeah and so I feel like there maybe was a time where Miley like wasn't really leaning into it and really wanted to get away from it which I totally understood and now that she successfully did that she can safely sing those songs and remark on that time and that's so fabulous for us because that show was so important to us yes it truly raised us yeah yeah so another moment from the glamour magazine part that people are talking about is when she's talking about working with Beyonce because that was kind of like one of the biggest songs from the Beyonce album um and it turns out that Miley wrote that song it's entirely written by

Miley and Beyonce came to Miley to collab but also came for a song like she didn't come just to have Miley sing and Miley said to have Beyonce come to me looking for a song that I've written and also wanting me to sing on it like was so doubly an honor and very interesting and that was a song that like Miley had sort of kept in her back pocket for many years and her mom was like obsessed with and when the time came it was like so obvious that this was going to be the song they were going to put forth for Beyonce like this is what they had been waiting for and I love that yeah and also I'd like it's two most wanted so I think it like speaks to them also she has a friendship with Beyonce that she talked about in the magazine it was funny she was like our personas have a friendship and then we also have a personal friendship which I feel like is so real yeah so it was a it was a good interview and

Miley's doing great and that warms my heart everything's coming up Miley yeah and it must feel good to have put in the work for so long like she was definitely you know flew a little bit under the radar I also think she had like a hard time finding her sound and like to have all your work pay off at once must be like such a good feeling for sure but the more I think about it like Malibu that's a pop song nomination of the like so many snubs and I do think that when you finally get it it's not like oh thank you it's like oh fuck you like my ass yeah but that she also talked about Like the energy Like the feelings That she had going into The Grammys this year

And like performing And what her mentality was Of just like Having fun This is like My inner child Like I'm not gonna be Like 31 and

Self conscious And aware of like Cause when you're so aware I'm gonna just be like 12 and brave and confident And like That totally came through Except I'm a 31 year old woman

With big hair And a Bob Mackie dress And so like Slayed the house down boots It totally came through I'm a 31 year old woman with big hair and a Bob Mackie dress and so like slayed the house down boots it totally came through yeah I agree and I think it really um endeared her to a lot of people like they loved that sort of energy that she had yeah it's been viewed 33 million times a performance on YouTube it was major yeah major I should watch it again are you ready for our next story? What number? Number three. Yeah. One of our, I think, kind of favorite

blossoming couple news stories. They're still going strong. Sophie Turner vacations in Italy with her boyfriend, Perrin Green Pearson, as Joe Jonas is newly single again. Yeah, I saw, I saw. I love those pictures. And coming right on the heels of Natalie Portman

and, what's his name like bringing cigarettes back Sophie Turner in these paparazzi photos she's one hand on a cigarette one hand on her cell phone oh yeah and a glass of wine I feel like Sophie Turner never left you know sometimes she's indoors and she has to go for the e-cig but yeah she was a big jewel girly back in the day she I know I think she's in Capri She's going for the real deal She's also like European She's from London Like they don't give a fuck as much

It's like not a big deal Yeah and I'm trying to see if her man's has a cig Because I think like when you're both smoking That's just fun Smokers see each other Smokers unite But cigarettes are back baby You heard it here first

Well it's summer Claude It's so true And did they ever leave People just weren't doing it A little bit more in secret Some people Not Sophie Not ever

No Sophie's always Been honest with us About who she is She's her authentic True self And she's taken her Authentic true self On a couple's getaway

With her boyfriend Who I We hadn't heard from them In a while Didn't know if they were still together. He's her like aristocratic man. I was going to say, remind me, he's just like a nobleman. Peregrine Pearson.

Yeah. Nobleman Bo. He's in the like aristocratic world in London. Yeah. Like high society. That's like such a sly. Such a sly. And also this story talks about Joe having split with Stormy.

Stormy, which rip to them. But I feel like the most important part of their relationship was bringing Nara Smith out into the world. They did what they needed to do. They did what they needed to do and now we have her. It was really kind of a crazy perfect timing where Stormy breezy was happening and nara was like it was like really on the up and up like stormy didn't make nara but it it added a

whole new cultural context to this thing we were all following on tiktok and then her man and her man's previous relationship and the kids and the kids names and the bread she made gum from scratch like it really was the perfect storm of nara smithism yeah it was and she's here to stay oh beyond and you know it all happening during the trad wife homesteading renaissance that's occurring on social media timing is everything and the timing was right for nara Smith. It really was. I am enjoying following her. Yeah, no, it's definitely otherworldly. But sometimes lucky cooks. Yeah, I just saw. Oh, he made his own moisturizer.

Because he ran out. With tallow. Because he ran out. Yeah, and instead, obviously, of going to the store like a normal person, they're like, what if we just whipped up our own cream? And then they did a little bathroom sesh where they were putting the cream on their faces and um I agree um not to be so trad but I think Nara should be the one in the kitchen like lucky I don't know what you do for a living but go back like I don't like it he's models he doesn't have the same sort of like tenderness and softness to use the words of Carl Radke that Nara has. Like she just,

she hits different. So yeah, I need Nara to stay in the kitchen and I need Lucky to get the fuck out. Yeah, I totally agree. But I loved him trying his hand at a little witchcraft. A little trattery. Yeah.

So yeah, that's the latest in this, in this love square. Yeah, this calmed down as quickly as it fired up like this whole joe and sophie thing and for the stability of the the family i'm glad that it did but just interesting to know you know their bounce back relationships one is still going strong and one is not right interesting and where did we all land with this team sophie right like i think a lot of people saw through in that crazy like two weeks of press I think it was all

came really hard and fast and people really quickly saw through oh yeah I think like for a second people were like Jean Jo and then they went like but I think for the people who felt those extremes yeah they go from side to side I think like for me not to say that I'm better than that but like I'm not team like it takes two to tango. These are two seemingly nice people. They have children. Like they're just trying to make it work. They work hard. I think they're both good people. I don't like the smearing of one another.

I think that's below the belt, but I think they're both, like I'm fine with both of them and I'm happy for both of them. I want them both to have happiness. Yeah. Right? Because that's what's best for everyone.

Sometimes, like I will say, like sometimes I'm not better than that you know I I think it's case by case if I'm going to be getting involved like team x team y um so it's case by case but in this case yes I do agree like at the end of the day it's the dissolution of a family like this is I think we really swing when like something like an injustice has occurred like a cheating or just something like really. But when it's just, you know, growing apart, you know, I'm sure both, you know, they probably like we're fighting, you know, that's not our business. It's not our business.

I agree. So happy for her Italian summer with her nobleman. Yeah, no, it's definitely something to look up to. Are you ready for our next story? A little reality TV news? No. OK. Is it the reality TV news that's brought to you by macy's it is well well here's your reminder father's day is like hella

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the real houses of new jersey season 14 reunion will not have a traditional format amid the actually some bombshell reality TV news, actually. Number four is that the Real Housewives of New Jersey season 14 reunion will not have a traditional format amid the divisive state of the cast. So there won't be a traditional reunion for the Real Housewives of New Jersey season 14, page six can confirm. The women were notified by production this week that a traditional reunion wasn't happening this season

amid the divisive state of the show. A second insider close to the situation shares that the Bravo cast was told that the network is Brainstorming a different concept to Wrap up the season instead in their Typical format you know everyone's there In a conversation hosted by Andy in A way to facilitate resolution

Among the stars however it has Become evident that there isn't a feasible path For the Rahones group in such A setting That's really crazy because the the um the response online has basically been Real Houses of New Jersey was so bad this season that they're not even getting a reunion and I was surprised because like it's not amazing first of all it's very early too it's actually been pretty good and like there have been way worse seasons of Housewives like i don't know what like everyone's so mad about when it comes to this but now it sounds

like the group is fighting too much yeah i don't like it's too good i feel like this season looks so good just from the previews and the fact that they can't even sit for a reunion like i was slipping and watching i think i'm two episodes behind like you bet your ass i'm catching up after the redheads that's next on my content plate the source also emphasized that an intense all-cast dinner filmed for the forthcoming finale during which insults expletives and dinnerware were lobbed between the ladies felt like an impasse it makes sense that's what started at the very the first scene of the first episode it's Dolores at that table by herself right after the mess the insider says once viewers see the finale the decision to forego the traditional reunion will make even more sense you also have to think about

the um the men are so involved in this show and it has gotten physical between men before perhaps that's what happened at the dinner like there are a lot of layers here that that you don't have to think about with other franchises like one the family of it all the sisters-in-law two the men are super involved and they have gotten physical before so like I wonder if that has anything to do with it I guess we'll just truly have to wait and see um I do think we're at an impasse though because Teresa and Melissa will not speak there's no resolution and we're doing this season with accepting that it's been what 10 years of trying to fight past it and make it family like this is the first season

where we just we're not even fighting we're accepting the fact that like we have nothing to do with each other so the reunion would be kind of a block and and I feel like everybody else is falling into teams too and it is an impasse and I feel like that's what's going to happen on Vanderpump Rules because we said after this reunion like I accept that Ariana and Tom will not film together they shouldn't film together'm done. I don't need resolution. And I think they should both still be on the show. But then I think we'll have one season of that and it's not feasible for whatever reason

and things will play out and we'll see what happens. But it becomes a major roadblock. Yeah. And this one is just so complicated. There's so much history. I'm curious what this new format is going to be because there are you could see it forming now like two different teams like basically Melissa and Teresa I feel like the finale fight and the fight like whatever the big fights throughout the season are are not even about it's not between us and Teresa no I don't

think so either and it's so interesting because I've always said this about Dolores and I feel like I get so frustrated talking about Real Housewives of New Jersey because I feel like we're on the unpopular side. Like I'm very much team Melissa, team Margaret. And I feel like that's not really the case. And the only person who this entire time, and I think this season too, who doesn't really definitively take any side is Dolores. And I feel like just as a critic of housewives like that definitely like

you know holds her back a little bit like she's stopping reaching her full potential because she's a super rational person I think that's what people love about her she's so real um but she's fiercely loyal to Teresa and while she doesn't defend Teresa she doesn't you know ever criticize Teresa or take a side against Teresa so that's why she's the only one sitting at this table because she's really kind of in the middle and she knows everyone for so long yeah but I feel like Dolores like her key characteristics like are of course like being like very logical and real but also like very traditional and very loyal and um even to a fault perhaps like even with Frank you know so yeah I feel like that is in line with her character and I when I'm looking for just like rash like you know being right no matter the cost like it's Margaret and Melissa and it was Jackie

I felt like Jackie kind of died on that hill as a cast member yeah it was like I this is crazy and I can't you know we can't just tiptoe around trees so we can't just not say the things that are so obviously true like if you could control your husband would your husband be in jail no Jackie came onto this show like so real that obviously Teresa who's like like this kind of sits on this throne of like not lies but like hypocrisy someone as straight shooter as Jackie coming in and just calling it out like it was explosive and that's what we loved about Jackie and so she got demoted and it seems like ever since then she's been doing anything possible to get her job back like the first scene she shot last season after being demoted she comes in and makes fun of Danielle Shorts like she just kind of totally flipped personalities and now this

season her being like Teresa's up Teresa's butt is so clearly an attempt to stir the pot be relevant and so it doesn't feel authentic to me and it's like frustrating and imagine you know being Jackie and Melissa yeah like hello yeah I mean remember the scene with at Margaret's house with Teresa and Jackie being like I didn't say Gia was doing coke but imagine if I did like how far we've come right this is the person who started the rumor that your husband was cheating on you at the gym. Like, it's just, like, the Jackie Schultz I already knew would never.

Right, right. So we'll watch and then make assumptions, but, you know. But what do you think the format is? Like, filming with one group, then filming with another. I have no idea. But to hear all these people saying the same thing, like. I have no idea.

Maybe they would do, like like one-on-one with like Jackie I mean um Jen Fessler and Margaret Teresa and whoever like you know what I mean like maybe instead of like a big group setting they think it'll de-escalate that way I don't know I don't know either couldn't tell but I think this sounds good even though people were like clowning on it being like this season's so bad they're not even getting a reunion it actually sounds like this season is so explosive like they can't all be in the same room together. Yeah, agreed. I'm looking forward to it.

Me as well. And then our fifth and final story is a little more reality TV news because Sheena Shea claims that Vanderpump Rules producer warned the cast that the show would be canceled amid season 11 filming. So as the future of Vanderpump Rules remains unclear, Sheena Shea claimed executive producer Alex Baskin

warned the cast that the show would be canceled. So she said in her new episode of her podcast, Shenanigans, I know Alex Baskin has said that mid-season the show was not in a good place. It was, you know, X, Y, and Z needs to happen or we're going to have a short season and the show is going to be canceled and that's it, go live your lives.

She noted that the grim outlook put a lot of pressure on her and Lala to deliver quality content. Well, we don't want the show to get canceled, she explained, not just for ourselves and our families, but there's a crew of 80 to 100 people who work on the show. And I said this at the reunion, which you didn't see, but I was like, I feel like we're doing our jobs also for all of these people.

We want to keep this going. Okay, like it's giving cast and crew. It's giving, yeah. Thank you to the lighting and craft services. That's always like a nice thing to throw in there, sure. But let's get to the, you know, the real stuff. Like you don't want the show to end. We don't want the show to end.

You guys didn't want the show to end. So also I feel like that, this is an important thing to know when watching the reunion. I have been keeping up with this on social media. Like Lala and Sheena, there's been a lot of like allegations I also saw that like they're you know Lala and Sheena were sort of

inferring that there were like rewards based bonuses for x y and z because I guess they did get to an impasse like halfway through filming where it's like kind of boring because everyone's just like not filming together and if they are they're not saying anything like there are a lot of like political dynamics if you will so I had also read that that that was being implied by Sheena and Lala that you know they were being paid to sort of be the first one to say something about Ariana oh interesting I mean I feel like since they broke the fourth wall they should have put this gone all the way in the reunion because there was a time when Lala's talking about how she thankful she is for the show and all of the opportunities that brought

her and how she's grabbing them and how it's allowed her to like be a single mom and then do it again and it felt like okay yeah but that's always true like why why this season but here's why because they were literally threatened with cancellation that's why they started working even harder right it seems like Lala was like it felt like she was being dramatic like the stakes were so high and it's like no one else feels that way no one it's and it's been like that every season like yeah we get a lot from this show that doesn't mean that you so and so has to film do something they don't want to do but this puts into context that like why they were so upset and why they were also upset that people weren't being real because they're probably like we have a show with people we'll just be real be honest right and then we

wouldn't be threatened with cancellation right like we have a really good interesting show but no one wants to do that show yeah yeah I think and I feel like that's what Lala kept saying like I love doing this like I love how we just yeah it's real and like that's not what this season was to her no it's definitely like if this is true like production being just sort of overproducing if you will um it definitely adds a little bit of clarity to Lala and Sheena's behavior on this season and a lot of the things that Lala was saying at the reunion that I found confusing yeah that just seemed like um very extreme considering it didn't feel like the show was teetering on cancellation they just had like the most worldwide global scandal thing scandal everyone's talking about Vanderpump

rules why now are we going to be scared of cancellation you should have been scared two years ago literally when the show was on its last dying breath and how could production even say that I mean yeah I guess the season was going poorly but even if this season wasn't good which it wound up being good there would be so much residual viewership from Scandaval for like the next year or two years. They had a guaranteed two seasons. From Scandaval. Just skating on by.

Even this season, if it was bad, or like it just ended, whatever, they would have had another season because people are watching right now. They're still, you're 100% right, there's still residual benefits and effects from Scandaval. After Scandavalival They got a guarantee

Of two seasons Even if they all Just sat around And picked their noses All day Like that was You don't go from being Like seriously

The number one Global trending topic In the world To The show was cancelled The next season Being cancelled Right

So I feel like Lala should have Known better than To have been so Easily manipulated But that's what Production does Like that's their job

Yeah but I also think The stakes are really high for her. She, I feel like everyone, you can make the argument for everyone, like Katie and Ariana just opened a restaurant. You wouldn't wanna lose the show now, but they're not acting like it. No, yeah, yeah. They're not like sort of throwing it all.

Same for the Toms, they have Schwartz and Sandys, but I feel like they're doing whatever, they do their best. Which is, yeah. Literally, there's nothing they could do more of that I would be like, oh, I need more. No, like I actually want them to do less. Yeah. Yeah.

To me, they're so uninteresting. Yeah. So, yeah. Vanderbilt Rules is so interesting that, especially since Scandival, so much of the storyline plays out in podcasts and on social media. And they're all leaving comments. Like like it's all over my Twitter um and that makes it you know fun to keep up with like during the off season and I know they're taking a bigger break this year to give everyone like a little bit of time to reset which I think is good um so this is just fun to keep up with yeah and I thought this was an interesting factoid yeah it is and it makes sense yeah it's like a

little too late this the reunion's over this would have been helpful then but they did say it I guess but it was cut out yeah I guess it makes production look bad and it looks like they're like manipulating people and being like toxic classic reality tv production um yeah you should have just went with it aside from there being like the person's name because it's like I feel like in general we just like blame it on production and no one actually takes accountability it's like oh yeah it was those and we don't know who they are they're not public people so it's just like a an easy one to blame you know actually the BravoCon panel that I hosted with like it was half housewives half

producers Alex Baskin was on my my panel and is that a man or a woman? Oh, good question, man. And good vibes? Yeah, seemed like super normal. Cool, cool. It's like a guy doing his job. Yeah. Well, I guess he did his job because we got our season. He produces a couple of shows.

Because no one from Vanderpump Rules was on my panel. It was all housewives. I think he does or did New York in the early days. Oh, cool.wives. I think he does or did New York and in the early days. Oh, cool. Yeah, I think. So, yeah,

that's just like a little bit of reality TV behind the scenes that you might not have known. Yeah. That's our show. Correct. Anything else we want to chit chat about? No, that's all.

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