The Toast - It Ends With These Photos: Wednesday, May 17th, 2023

Episode Date: May 17, 2023

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Good morning Millennials and welcome back to the Toast. Happy Wednesday. It is the middle of the week. It's Hump Day. Such an important day to commemorate here at the Toast and nationwide honestly. Globally. Yeah why limit ourselves to just the states? No I think the whole world should be commemorating Hump Day. All the cameras coming out for a global affair. All right. That's what hump day is. A global affair. Yep. How's your hump day so far? You know what? So far it's better than my Tuesday. That's good. For a number of reasons. I got to sleep until my normal hour this morning. Oh good. And I'm wearing a cardigan that I love from a sister that I love. Yeah. I've got these new maternity jeans on. I like my outfit. So fabulous to feel that way. Because I like it. So I'm feeling really hopeful and excited. Wow. It's

also Wednesday, which means it's the Vanderpump Rules finale. And honestly, like I'm fucking ready. No, it's like it might as well be on my Google calendar the way that I've like scheduled for this. Like, oh, I can't go out to dinner tonight. No shit. I just realized I have an event tonight. I heard you have an event tonight. Yeah. It's at seven. I heard about it from Margo. Yeah.

That you guys are going to an event. Yes. Without me. You're more than welcome to come. But like now I'm thinking, what time is Vanderbilt rules on? Nine. Okay.

I'll be home by 830. Like I, I have to get out of there in time. I forgot about that. You have to watch the other episode then before you go. do your big plan oh of a back-to-back I have something to share with you that I found extremely interesting okay I actually took a picture of it so I finished Andy's book last night and it was great like I gave it four out of five stars I don't know if he necessarily needed to write another book there was really nothing major

that happened or real lesson he learned or whatever. But on the topic of Meghan Markle, I was really surprised that when we reported on that thing, they didn't include, she was brought up twice in the book. And the second time was much more interesting. The first time was when they recorded their podcast episode together. And the second time is when the podcast episode actually came out. Andy was definitely pissed, okay? So they basically sat and chatted for an hour but they cut it down to 20 minutes because it was Judd Apatow Trevor Noah everyone got 20 minutes and he actually said they had like a really nice chat over that hour and then they

chatted afterwards just like gossiping he wouldn't share like what it was but they really connected and he was really proud of himself because he got to throw in like a question for her about Oprah where she had basically said, we never watched it. And that's why when he quoted, were you silent or silenced? He was like so proud of himself. She really didn't know what he was talking about because she didn't watch it. But she was there when Oprah asked. Yeah, but it didn't feel like a major moment like it did to us. Like it just caught on.

So when the episode came out, this was his diary entry. Meghan Markle's podcast came out and it was interesting to see how they produced it. She narrates it, which is an effective device, especially if you're cutting an hour down to 20 minutes, which she did. However, in that narration, she talks about what a tough conversation this was for her, mentioning that she has conflicting feelings about the housewives. I thought it was interesting that she said that in narration, but didn't discuss it with me head on.

Wouldn't that have made for a more dynamic conversation? She cut out the Oprah conversation and me saying, were you silent or silenced? And left in the part where she busted me for having forgotten meeting her in the pre-Duchess days. So she was shady and he was pissed. Like, it's actually, he's right. Like, it would have been, like,

an interesting dynamic conversation. She has conflicting feelings about the Housewives, I'm sure, in some way, as it pertains to, like, modern-day feminism or whatever. No, for sure. And that's just, to me, like, such a lame take. And I feel like... It's a bad take.

I agree. Gloria Steinem, when she was on Watched Reppin' Live, being like, you know, Housewives is bad for women. Like, it's not. I don't agree with that. It's like the low-hanging fruit of takes. it's like saying the Kardashians are bad for women like I don't think that's true I think women can handle themselves and if you look at the Housewives and you're inspired great and if you're disgusted great and if you're entertained great like

who fucking cares yeah also like if you really want to dig into it Housewives have given a lot of dependent women independence yeah not through traditional means by any means right but you know there's a lot of women who came on the show who literally were like under their husband's thumb who are now their own people yeah no I feel like when Melissa Gorga was on our podcast for the first time she was like you should have seen me like back in the day like such a housewife in the traditional sense like literally no money of my own like just waited for my husband to come home wipe the kids asses and and I think that's like a lot of the growing pains we see on her in her marriage on the show like have to do with like this new journey of her and she was like I meet so many women who like were in the same so I agree like the whole take

on like being you know is housewives controversial for feminism in the modern woman like I think it's such a bad take but to like say it in the narration and then yeah that's then you get the guy you get the guy who's like creator of this universe you get him for an interview on your podcast and you have obviously like a conflicting feeling and you're not going to bring it up right and that would be an interesting conversation and it's also even if you do feel that way either say it or don't say it don't say it when he's not there but have a nice conversation with him when he is there. So I feel as though actually my takeaway from the book

is him and Meghan Markle are actually not on good terms. I feel like they're not on bad terms, but they're not on good terms considering like they did a podcast together. I feel like everyone we've ever podcasted with, like you're on good terms now. Yeah, yeah. Unless like something happens

and you put in something that you said and et cetera. So I did really like the book. If you're like a Bravo fan there's like a lot of interest I was always just very interested like what Andy's relationships with the housewives are personally and I feel like from his first book to now his last he's gotten way more comfortable like having actual friendships with certain women I think for a while he remained like so untouchable because he didn't want the women to compare but he's like so close with Tamara it's so crazy and so close with Garcelle like I did not see that because she's like so new to the universe but I think he just really likes her and they have like a real friendship

like they talk on the phone all the time and it's just interesting that is interesting well I'm glad you read it thank you for keeping us abreast yeah it's a good book like it's it's not gonna change your life but like it's good that's okay it doesn't have to no a great beach read like it really there were a couple times where like I genuinely like cackled like he's very funny great yeah I also find it interesting like he um is really comfortable like sharing moments where he's acting like a diva bitch celebrity like screaming at people or like waiting in line and being impatient like and he like just kind of owns screaming at people or like waiting in line and being impatient. Like,

and he like just kind of owns those moments. I feel like I would be surprised. Like, you know, you, you think he would get like shit for that, you know? Yeah.

But maybe he's just trying to get out ahead of it. Maybe like there, this was actually a crazy moment where he was in DC and he went to that, um, hotel bar that Chris, Candace's husband from Potomac is the manager of. And so he went there a, cause he's heard it. It's a good Okay. And so he went there, A, because he's heard it's a good spot, and B, he thought, you know, he'd get, like, VIP treatment.

Turns out her husband had recently been, like, you know, let go or left the job. But he still went, and, like, they couldn't find a place to stand, and they finally found a place to stand at this packed bar, and this, like, manager or, like, hostess comes over and, like, yells at them. And Andy was just, like, Andy had it. And he snapped, and then security came and escorted him out and said that the hostess is crying and it was just like this crazy saga where like he yelled at this girl and like the girl was like obviously like overtly sensitive but andy like totally owned the fact that he made the girl cry and like it ruined

his whole week yeah well i feel like a situation like that is so that if that story ever like gets out he's like yeah no i did that i story ever like gets out, he's like, yeah, no, I did that. I felt bad about it. I've already accepted accountability. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. It was very introspective. It was good.

But it's crazy that that doesn't like make it to DuMois. Well, so then he did bring up DuMois. He was like, I was in the Hamptons. James Corden's eggs are front page news. Right, right. Okay. So he was in the Hamptons and he was at this coffee shop that was taking forever. He like just got a tea. I think he was sick and he just like, oh my God, he was in the Hamptons and he was at this coffee shop that was taking forever he like just got a tea I think he was sick and he just like oh my god he was like pacing he was

like I looked like a lunatic like talking to myself just like wondering when my tea was gonna come and he eventually stormed out without the tea because it was a six dollar tea and he never it never came whatever and it ended up on Dumont not that he was like being an asshole just that he appeared to be in a rush and left without his tea that That's a nice spin. Yeah, it was pretty good for him. Yeah. So yeah, that was what I did. Very nice. Yesterday I was just like, you know what?

Like, fuck this. I was not in the motherfucking mood to answer an email, to put one ounce of work in. I sat down at two o'clock after the toast and I was like, fuck it. And I just read the whole day. I was just like feeling, I was kind of feeling like playing hooky.

You were just like turning to literature in your time of need. I forgot that I could play hooky, you know? Yeah. Like it's kind of fun. Yeah. I loved it. I'm happy for you. I was taken down by my tiredness and my allergies yesterday.

Everyone's talking about the allergies. The allergies, they're not good. We were in the park and it was just a lot of pollen, like pollen falling everywhere. I'm so sorry. Yeah, but it was okay. Other than that, it was a nice day. And then I went out to dinner and I did not see Taylor Swift. Well, I figured if you did, one, I would know at this point and two, like that's what you

would lead with. But how was your adventures in spotting Taylor Swift going? What's the plan for the rest of the week? Yesterday was like your big opportunity. Yeah. Okay. So let me tell you how yesterday, like I played I went I chose a hot spot for dinner I kept my eyes on alert and I would say 20 minutes into my meal guess who walks in I know the answer so Gigi Hadid right so I was like oh my god my plan is working Taylor's obviously coming to meet her I thought I was feeling on top of the world I was so like feeling not present in my dinner because I just had like my eyes and ears

open to the to the restaurant and then you know days turned into nights and nights turned into months and Taylor never showed up and according to my research Taylor didn't leave the house last night which I guess is almost better than like if I chose the wrong restaurant you know yeah so yeah are you gonna keep trying to go back to that place like for the rest of the week because she probably will go there one night this week I just can't or you just have to watch Vanderpump Rules tonight right tonight's a wash I have an engagement party tomorrow night uptown Taylor's not gonna be uptown so I just feel like I tried okay I got dressed and I stayed alert And nothing came of it

It's only Wednesday Lemon it's only Wednesday Lemon it's only Wednesday I'm like why are you calling me Lemon But I get it Like you literally got dressed and stayed alert One night when you went to dinner No I gave it a shot

Like that's what I'm saying Like I'm not This is not gonna be Like I'm not gonna scavenge Like it's fine And maybe like You'll stay alert But not dressed

So you could just If someone says Oh my god Taylor's at So and so You run No No it has to be Like I have to be there

You know It has to be like Meant to be Okay It's okay I feel like I gave it A triumphant attempt And I'm okay with that Okay I. And I'm okay with that.

Okay. I'm glad. I'm okay with that too then. I'm not going to pressure you. Thanks. I'd like to. You should take care of yourself. Right.

Right. I could be like running out of the house pulling my hair out every night when I hear Taylor's on 14th Street. You know? Yeah. Think of the Ubers I'll spend money on. The traffic. The traffic.

I'll end up pulling my hair out. And that would be bad. And I don't have a lot of hair to spare these days. It's also Wednesday, which means it's your toasters. We've got three great submissions from girlies who need us. They need us, Jax. And we're here for you. We're always here for you, but especially on Wednesdays.

Yeah. I wouldn't say we're always here for you. No, I'm kidding. We're here for you on Wednesdays. Yeah. That's where you can find us. So it's seertoasters at gmail.com. So I think without further ado.

Is it? Yeah, we actually have really good stories today. Okay. And I'm really excited to chit chat with my girl, a swirly turdy. Yeah. Without further ado, here are the fast five stories that I'm going to chit chat with my girly swirly turdy about that you need to know this morning. Thanks, Jax.

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Now our first story is a tragedy. Oh. The new photos. It's a tragedy. The new photos for It Ends With Us, the Colleen Hoover book turned movie have dropped. We see Blake Lively fully transformed as redhead Lily Bloom and fans are pissed. So if you've seen these photos they're

all over the internet. If you haven't seen just Google you know they were paparazzi on the street. We saw Ryle who was played by Justin Baldoni. We saw Lily played by Blake Lively in character. so it was the first time we're seeing her in wardrobe in hair she has red hair and it's giving brave it's tragic uh the outfits the hair it is to say the least shocking it's shocking and it's offensive to the fans it's offensive to the book too and it's offensive to blake lyley like the most stylish woman on the planet who would put her in these clown outfits i mean that big brown dress the socks and the shoes the bag the shirt tied at the top yeah no honestly it felt like a prank every item is bad worse than the next there's

not like a coat that ties it together. And I have to say. I don't remember Lily Bloom as being a freak. That's no, no. She was like this, like really kind of cute garden-y. Like girly. Girly. Yeah. No, it's so shocking.

And I will say like whenever a book turns into a movie, there's, you know, people are hypersensitive. They're always on alert. They're criticizing. And I feel like a lot of the times it's unfair. Like photos come out people you know I disagree this is so fucking next level I don't feel like when photos come out of a movie turning a book turning into a movie that we are usually disheartened like when we saw Mila Kunis so I was gonna bring that up too because that was very exciting walking down the street and just and it was a regular dress like no but like people

who are so obsessed with a certain book, like they're always going to be sensitive and like I can understand that and I just want to say the backlash to these photos, that is not that. That is not that.

No, this is warranted. This, I was shocked. I mean, I don't know what's worse, the hair or the clothes.

Probably the clothes, but what's with the hair? I don't know. What's that girl's name from Brave? I'll Google it No it's like not something It's like a weird name Yeah

Not weird But it's like Not Common Like it's like Something from Poldark It's Scottish

Yeah exactly Yeah sorry I didn't mean weird Scottish I wasn't like trying to be offensive What the fuck is her name? A female What is it? Merida Merida yes

That's not what I was thinking Yes Merida Merida whatever Merida Merida I was thinking like Demelza from Poldar Because the hair is giving Demelza too

It's giving Merelda What do we say her name? Merida Merida Why? Literally why is why is it like that i don't know like such a weird take it's it's it's offensive to everyone it's offensive to the readers it's offensive to colleen it's offensive to blake it's offensive to redheads it's offensive to blake like and she's such a stylish queen like she knows that what she's

she's just but When you're an actor Like you're just an actor You do what you're told You know I don't blame Blake I don't know who the fuck I'm blaming I don't blame Blake

Wardrobe But also someone at the top Has decided to ruin this movie Yes Maybe like someone at the top Is like old high school friends With Colleen Hoover's Arch nemesis

And is like I'm gonna take her book And I'm gonna ruin it I'm taking the Hoovers down I don't know if Colleen knows that this is happening to her. She's being set up. And I feel like she just is so immensely grateful for all these opportunities. Of course.

That she can't see that sometimes something seems really great, but it's compromising the integrity of your work. I know, and I'm just so confused. Because the casting wasn't what we had hoped. But that doesn't mean that there's no hope for the film. Blake Lively is an amazing, gorgeous actress Who we love to see on the screen. So you know what? So they went with a star.

So we'll deal with it. When people thought maybe they should have went with a young undiscovered talent. Maybe she wasn't the age range we thought. Whatever. Like none of it was not. I'll never be like mad about seeing Blake Lively. No. And none of the casting was really like something they couldn't come back from.

Yeah. These were all professional hired actors. Like they can make a movie. But I don't know. What I'm seeing now, I don't know. It's sabotage. It's so. Like let's just call a spade a spade.

Like those clothes were fugly. Like what the fuck? Fugly. She's a girl. If you read the book, she looks like she's on the set of Little Women. Yes. Yes. If you read the book, you know like Lily, the character, like loves flowers.

She loves beautiful things she would dress in like pastel colors and like you know beautiful bright materials like what is this duty brown dress from what i remember about the book like her wardrobe wasn't uh a factor factor at all so she probably like wore jeans and a t-shirt like shopped at zara like so true she's not her wardrobe is not a character She's not a model But this is fucking distracting It's destructive It's destructive I was literally like guffawed I keep

I've been using that word For like three weeks Is that even the right word? Yeah Oh I was absolutely flabbergasted And guffawed Like I was shook when I saw it

I'm like there's no way I'm like maybe this is her You know break clothes Like maybe she's on break and she's wearing a big duty brown dress Maybe but then also the dress gets a t-shirt put on top Yes with a knot in it At some point and the t-shirt says like Earhart I don't know

With a knot in it and then a painter's smock on top It's really bad It's really bad. It's really bad. The hair is bad. Everything is bad. Yeah. I'm just, I'm really,

I'm shocked. And I often think like when there's like universal backlash, I'm like, people are being dramatic. They're not. No. Honestly, they're not being dramatic enough.

No, they're not. Especially this book has such a cult following. Like you search it on tumblr like there's so many fan edits like the movie produces itself like the visuals are there it's really not that hard it's not like you have to create like the world of hogwarts yeah like it's just a couple of good-looking people in an apartment in boston yeah with flowers right flowers that's it that's literally it and you chose this it doesn't need like a different creative lens. It doesn't need, what's that woman's name from Sex and the City?

Patricia Fields. It doesn't need, like the wardrobe is not a factor. No, it's really not. It's just regular people with regular jobs. You don't need to recreate the wheel. You just need to let the story tell itself. Yeah. It's bad.

Bad. We'll keep you updated. This, like, every time something comes out about this movie it's like worse than the next I don't know what we're gonna hear next but I'm scared I know I'm scared are you ready for our next story yeah which is some good hair news oh yeah Beyonce teases a new hair care launch she said she can't wait for you to experience what she's been creating so Beyonce took to Instagram on Tuesday less than a week after kicking off her tour. I'm like, who did she kick out? To tease the launch of her new hair care line. So the first photo in the carousel was of her posing in a mirror while styling her

natural curls. And then the second picture was a throwback photo of her getting her hair braided in a salon chair. Then she had the third photo as like a statement written for her. How many of y'all knew my first job was sweeping hair in my mama's salon? Destiny's Child got our start by performing for clients while they were getting their hair done. She said, I was exposed to so many different kinds of entrepreneurial women in her salon. I saw firsthand how the ways we nurture and celebrate hair can directly impact our souls.

I watched her heal and be of service to so many women. Having learned so much on my hair journey, I've always dreamed of carrying on her legacy. She ended the note with an exciting message saying how she can't wait for you to experience what she's been creating with her first initial and a heart. So so cute hair by Beyonce hair by Beyonce. I feel like based on the letter and then the visuals it's like going to be targeted for black hair which honestly like I feel like Beyonce is going to become like a billionaire five times over. Like this is the best idea.

Yeah. I wasn't before yesterday, like thinking like, what business does Beyonce need to get into? She should get into the like beauty game, just like, you know, how everyone else is doing. But this is a no brainer.

Yeah, no. And I think a lot of times when celebrities announce like a hair or a skin or makeup, it feels like very cash grabby and like dumb but this feels like extremely on brand I think like so many girls look up

to Beyonce and like style their hair up to Beyonce so I think this is a great idea I saw the craziest tick-tock of Beyonce's mom okay somehow she was at one of the concerts she got like stuck in GA she's like

literally behind the barricades like with people and she's trying to she's talking to security and like literally security like pick like literally people the people behind the barricade and security in front of the barricades like with people and she's trying to she's talking to security and like literally security like pick like literally people the people behind the barricade and security in front of the barricade like hoist her up in the air and like put her over the barricade she like got lost at the concert that's great before the concert had begun but i'm glad the security recognized her and like didn't make her go around you know many people probably come up

and say hey i'm beyonce's mom right right me in. Right. Yeah. Thank God she's like a person of public knowledge, you know? Yeah. People are like, this is Beyonce's mom. How did she get stuck? I don't know. She honestly looked hilarious. Like, she would be like a funny gal. That's really funny.

I hope we get more info on this soon. I know. Like, let's brainstorm names. Believe. It's obviously going to have like a B in it. It's going to have, you're right about that. And did I hear, she's closing down Ivy Park. I didn't hear that.

I think I did. Oh, interesting. Which I feel like was really never, like it never felt like the right business to me for her. No, but I feel like it did really well while it was around. Yeah, because people Just love Beyonce But let me see But it wasn't like

The obvious thing She should be doing Adidas to end Clothing partnership With Beyonce a month ago Oh interesting I didn't feel like It was like

A good business call Like when I think of Beyonce I don't think of athleisure It was cute athleisure Like as an athleisure Company on it's own It was fine It was good

Whatever I don't know It just didn't feel Like a match Like this is a much Better suited business for Beyonce in my opinion I wonder well first of all we could also look to like song titles for perhaps inspiration that's a good call or like song lyrics renaissance hair oh that's pretty cool yeah but there's no b in it no no but there might not be a B if it's like an iconic Beyonce.

Yeah, lyric or reference. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, like the Becky with the good hair. No, she would never. She would never. Not Becky with the good hair, but just like good hair by Beyonce. I kind of love that.

Good hair by Beyonce. Okay. but I think in that lyric good hair I think I don't know actually but good hair like whatever it meant yeah yeah yeah it good hair is like good hair it's still two words look it up in the dictionary yes hair that is good right good that is hair yeah yeah good hair is actually like like, not a bad name. No, not at all. And obviously, since she's, like, teasing it, I think it's probably, like, ready to go. I would hope so. It's not, like, you know, years away. I think we're, like, weeks away from finding out.

Weeks. That's exciting. I love a launch. So do I. A hard launch. This was soft. This is extremely soft. Yeah.

But exciting nonetheless. Exciting nonetheless. Are you ready for our next story yeah speaking of excitement for speak now tv taylor lautner says that he feels safe but he's praying for john as the release for taylor swift's third re-recorded album speak now taylor's version looms this summer there's one man with romantic ties to the singer who feels confident about revisiting the era ahead of the drop, Taylor Lautner. He laughed when Today.com asked how he's feeling with less than two months before he,

along with millions of Swifties, are set to revisit 2009 and 2010. At the time, the actor was in his... What is this? At the time, the book Twilight was at its peak. He, too, was in the spotlight for his personal life. Like, just get to the fucking point No just say he was in Twilight

Thanks Anyways He's back to December On Speak Now He said Yeah I think it's a great album Yeah I feel safe Yeah of course

Praying for John The Swifties know Like Taylor Lautner Is the least problematic ex He's sleeping you know Very soundly at night, knowing this album is on its way. No, and Speak Now is to John Mayer

what Red was to Taylor, Jake Gyllenhaal. Jake Gyllenhaal, and technically what Fearless was to... Joe Jonas. Yeah, but the thing is, and why it's different, it's like there was no bloodshed with Joe Jonas, because like, A, Joe and Taylor are friends, and at the end of the day, like, Joe didn't do anything to Taylor.

Like, yeah, he broke up with her on the phone, but like, he didn't hurt her. Like, he like he was like you know Jake Gyllenhaal and John Mayer like we're all still mad because it's like you were 35 year old men like taking advantage of this teenager like you're fucking disgusting like we're not gonna like just let that go yeah and because it's the these from what it seems are not isolated incidents like especially with Jake Gyllenhaal like there's been Like even his current Girlfriend is Super young So much younger than him

Like it's a pattern Of behavior So I think that Red Taylor's version Coming out just like Highlighted something That has always been true Yeah

And I think with John Mayer He's very He's a problematic lover Yeah In general We've known But I don't know

I don't know That it's gonna be As bad for him Because I feel like everything about John Mayer is known. Like he's very accountable. It's actually so true. For like who he was in the past.

He's like in his post womanizer era. He's like rehabilitated. Yeah. So I don't think it's going to be like as shocking as realizing like, oh my God, Jake Gyllenhaal is like a freak. Kind of fucked up. Yeah. No, that's true.

Like we've been knowing. Yeah. About. And he's like been open about it How he like took this break from the spotlight And he's I think I don't watch happens live Like a few times he always refers like his past life Is like you know he's a former womanizer

Yeah so but I also think that what Doug Jake Gyllenhaal's grave Was all too well 10 minute version Because then we got like details that we didn't know before Yeah So it would have to be vault tracks that would bury. That would add color. John Mayer. Yeah.

I mean, also with John Mayer, I think everyone's on high alert because would have, could have, should have from Midnight's people believe is also about John Mayer. So it's like we're actually still getting new information on the saga. Yeah. So.

I just think John Mayer will weather the storm better I feel like he might even lean into it a little bit whereas Jake Gyllenhaal like probably won't sit down for an interview unless you swear on the bible that you won't ask about it yeah no for sure I think you're right like um because John Mayer like has responded he wrote paper dolls and that was like his big response years later but then this year at a concert he performed it and he gave like a little bit like he spoke about it before it was nothing crazy was said but he acknowledged it which was crazy for the community um yeah I don't think it'll be like complete silence from John because I think he feels confident in the fact that he's not a bad guy anymore yeah yeah and he's like he's an open book whereas Jake Gyllenhaal I feel like has this like facade facade of a reputation

to uphold so that's actually like an amazing point so that's the difference to me I think John will be fine I think John will be fine too because it's also just a part of his image that's why like people like love him problematic king it's like Jake Gyllenhaal is supposed to be this like perfect Hollywood actor with like this pristine reputation and John is like bad boy musician and I think for a lot of people like the more bad things we learn about him like the more we love him which is so fucked yeah but I think is the truth for a lot of his fans but speak now is younger than red Taylor yeah she was younger but is John Mayer younger than Jake Gyllenhaal? I honestly think they're like, actually, I would think maybe John Mayer. But like, can I ask you something?

John Mayer and Taylor, John Mayer's 45. Okay. Damn. John Mayer and Taylor, what was the- Relationship. Extent and longevity of their relationship? And Jake is 42. Okay.

Okay. and longevity of their relationship. And Jake is 42. Okay. So their relationship, if I remember correctly, began as, you know, a mutual respect. Like, of course, Taylor knew who John Mayer was, and then John Mayer found out who Taylor was.

Was really kind of inspired by her songwriting. They publicly flirted with each other. Like, he was very complimentary of her. He was dazzled by her. And then I think they worked together to write a song, Half of My Heart. Oh, that's the song I think he performed when he spoke on tour about Taylor, not paper dolls, whatever. And during the creative process, you know, they had a brief but fiery romance. I think Taylor was very excited about, you know, the prospect of a much older, much more more successful probably one of her songwriting heroes he's one of the greatest songwriters of our time you know to to show interest in her

and he was like you know oh shiny young thing and you know it's a tale as old as time did they hook up I believe they they they briefly flung I don't I don't think they were ever in like an actual relationship and I think that was the problem Like Taylor was searching for something real And he was like fucking around Okay So if you listen to the lyrics of Dear John It sounds like he was just kind of like playing with her emotions And she was like very you know into the whole thing

Okay and here's a crazy question Who did Taylor lose her virginity to? All Too Well Jake All Too Well is about the scarf I think a lot of people believe to be a metaphor for the virginity and she also like has a lyric where she like pretty much explicitly says um i would have to google it but that's the vibe that i got which would mean that like she didn't

have sex with john mayer because it was before i mean it's entirely possible because she was like a conservative queen yeah yeah but you can still like have strong feelings. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. But I've thought for years, like who did Taylor lose her virginity to? Which is like a disgusting thing to think, I guess. But John Mayer or Jake Gyllenhaal. It's a weird question, but like I feel like in the context of the conversation, it's germane. Because Dear John really sounds like the song of a girl who just lost her virginity. And so for a long time, I thought she lost her virginity to John Mayer.

And then the floating theory. Because that would be like really messed up. Yeah. But then the floating theory was that like all too well, the scarf was like a symbol of the virginity. And like Maggie Gyllenhaal actually doesn't have it. She actually just lost her virginity at Maggie Gyllenhaal's house.

And so her virginity is at Maggie Gyllenhaal's house and she can't get it back. Right, right. And then when Taylor was doing press for the all too well 10 minute versions, she had been asked by a reporter if the scarf Could be a metaphor

And she said yes Interesting I love when people Ask the right questions I know Like them asking Taylor Lautner About this

About this Okay just pulled up The lyrics Because I would love To find the lyric You're referring to To find the lyric That I'm referring to

Because it reminds you Of innocence And it smells like me like that's innocence is virginity yeah yeah but then also there's a really an argument to be made that john mayer took her virginity like especially would have could have should have god rest my soul i miss who i used to be the two moon clothes and a lot of the could have would have should have listen to me this is important a lot of the could have would have should have listen to me this is important a lot of the could have would have should have lyrics it's uh feel religious they have like religious elements to it and you know she grew up like very conservative when you lose your virginity there's like a element of like religious shame to it so the stained glass stained glass windows in my mind

i regret you all the time i can't let this go i fight with you in my sleep the tomb won't close very religious keep on waiting for a sign and then it's if clarity is in death then why won't this die um living for the living for the thrill of hitting you where it hurts give me back my girlhood it was mine first that really feels like a lyric about virginity oh and cloaked in this song with like religious references it feels why do people think it's about john it says 19 and he said when she's when she talks about being 19 dear john when she talks about being 19 it is john mayer she's letting us know okay okay hold on let me find what i'm looking for something about the lifeless.

There really is an argument in terms of lyrics to be made about either men taking her virginity. And I don't know if this conversation like speculating on someone's virginity is like really disgusting and inappropriate because it kind of feels gross. It does. So I apologize, Taylor. Like this is really not cool. But like I'm just curious. At least we can take solace knowing she doesn't listen. So true. Why can't I Find what I'm looking for what are you

Looking for me like when she says Something about like her like in all too Well in all too well like her life like Her body like laying there like like I Don't know not a crumpled up piece of Paper drop in the comments who do you Think it was yeah that oh my god that's I don't know. Not a crumpled up piece of paper. Drop in the comments. Who do you think it was?

Yeah, that's, oh my God, that's crazy. I really don't know. Like, honestly, you found it? And then you wondered where it went to as I reached for you. But all I felt was shame. And you felt my life was sprained. I just feel like that's kind of like how you feel when you lose your virginity to the wrong person a hundred percent arguments to be made on both sides I really felt like also a lot of speculation on all sides yeah I really feel like could have would have should have like is the song about losing your virginity too I'll have to listen

with that in mind yeah I mean give me back my girl girlhood is already a thesaurus synonym for virginity but also now all too well I associated so closely with the book my dark Vanessa I told you this theory before which is about like a a young girl who like has an affair with her teacher so I might be like conflating like what that story means yeah yeah yeah this you're projecting I'm projecting yeah yeah yeah that's possible but i think the the the more in terms of things taylor is actually confirmed she did confirm like the scarf is metaphoric so i really i do think it's jake gyllenhaal okay so yeah great and also like taylor would have been under age right with john mayer 19 oh yeah no sorry this episode is brought to

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ready for our next story I really need to get your take on it yeah because I don't know how to feel you really need to get my take I feel so special I need to like flush it out with you okay we need to like so you need me to help you come up with your take? Yeah. I sometimes feel that, yeah. Yeah. Disney's new Little Mermaid seems to contain a dig at Kate Middleton. What?

Yeah, I read that. I skipped the headline a few times before I clicked it. And I was like, okay, let me see. If it's compelling. If there's anything here. Because also like Megan has been known to say like she felt like Ariel in the Little Mermaid. She said that on Oprah. It's like one of her favorite movies.

Oh, I don't remember that. Okay. Yeah. A reviewer who saw an early screening of Disney's new remake of The Little Mermaid tells Page Six that it seems to dip a toe into the Megxit debacle and even contains what appears to be a dig at Kate Middleton. The critic tells Page Six that the film seems to draw a number of subtle yet plausible comparisons between Meghan Markle and Prince Harry on the one hand

and the two lead characters, Ariel, who is black in the new version, and Prince Eric, who is white on the other hand. So that's one. But one scene in particular seems to get pretty literal. Quote, Ariel has sacrificed her voice in order to get to the surface and meet Prince Eric. She can't speak, so he tries to guess her name, they said. Quote, his first guess is Diana.

His second guess is Catherine, but after Ariel gives a disgusted reaction, he concludes, okay, definitely not Catherine. Huh. That does feel that doesn't feel like a stretch. It doesn't feel random. The spy says there's nothing in the movie's Internal logic To otherwise explain The mermaid's extreme response To the name Catherine Disney would be disingenuous

To imply those names Were coincidental This person said I agree Like you have to choose Of all the names In all the land You choose Diana and Kate

Right And meanwhile In her 2021 interview With Oprah Meghan herself said That she identified With Ariel from The Little Mermaid She recalled watching the movie during her troubled time in the UK And she said I went oh my god she falls in love with the prince

And because of that she loses her voice Did you see Meghan Markle out last night? I did which we'll talk about She looks stunning With this You know she just gets better like better looking And he is really not cute anymore She looked amazing

He did not look nice No they look like a mismatch She just gets better, like better looking. And he is really not cute anymore. She looked amazing. He did not look nice. No, they look like a mismatch. Like he looks like slobbish with his like tie loose. I thought his outfit was really bad. Yeah. And like he he's just like not like he's just like aging. Like I didn't like barely looked at his face because like he's so not important. No, it's like I'm not going to critique someone's face.

Like what can you do about it? Whatever. But I thought his outfit was just slobbish. Slobbish. Slobbish. Like not tailored. Next to that dress. And she, oh, she just looked next level.

Yeah. Okay, but back to this. It definitely feels like 100% like a nod. Maybe it was just like Disney. And you know, Megan does like work with Disney. She does voiceover work. She has like a big partnership with them. It might have just been like a nod. Like it was just like Disney. And you know, Megan does like work with Disney. She does voiceover work. She has like a big partnership with them. It might've just been like a nod.

Like you saw us and we see you. Like it doesn't necessarily feel like, like a dig at Kate, but more so a nod to Megan. That's how I'll choose to see it. Yes. Except for the fact that it's a literal dig at Kate and that there's no Meghan element, you know?

I do also think the names that they chose, like choosing Diana, is weird. Yeah. Like not, oh, it's not a coincidence. I just think it's weird to bring up someone's dead mother-in-law. Yeah. Unless, does Prince Eric know she,

oh no, she's not, is she a princess? She's becoming. You know, I'm kind of unfamiliar so what I was gonna say story what I was gonna say is I have not seen a little mermaid in ages I'll probably see the new one so I really a need to see the movie because I don't remember the plot like whatsoever and b I need to see the scene for myself in order to come up with like a full thought but for right now I'm thinking yeah it's definitely a nod to Megan it's little shady. I'm not really feeling it as like, I guess because she makes like a gross face. Yeah.

I don't know. I don't know. And I feel like, it's not like they said Camilla, you know? Right. Like Catherine is, Kate is really beloved. Yeah. Not that Camilla deserves hate either. No, no, no.

She's a little more controversial. Yeah, no, there's like more of an argument to be made. Yeah. I don't know. And I'd say like Elizabeth, not make a face, but like, these are queenly names.

Right. Right. Of Queens, princesses. Yeah. There's so much hype for this movie. It's crazy. I feel like we've been talking about it forever.

Yeah. Hmm. When does it come out? I don't know. I thought it was already out. No, this is like only one person saw it Right

It's been under like Lock and key Yeah There's a lot of hoopla Hopefully they're not lying About what they saw And like getting us In a tizzy for nothing

No way They wouldn't do that But I just think It's interesting Me too Our fifth and final story The Bachelor announces Their first ever

Senior citizen season ABC has finally announced That The Bachelor Nation is welcoming another spinoff this time. Its contestants will be senior citizens. Called The Golden Bachelor, which will premiere this fall, it will focus on one lucky older gentleman and age-appropriate female suitors who will compete for his love. In a press release, the new reality series is described as a whole new kind of love story, one for the golden years. The network describes the salt-ed hair twinkly eyed mature gentleman as a hopeless

romantic who will be given a second chance at love in the search for a partner with whom to share the sunset years of life per the release the group of women arriving at the mansion have a lifetime of experience living through love loss and laughter hoping for a spark that ignites a future full of endless possibilities honestly just like knowing what we know about how like producers and production like treat contestants like the thought of these like precious young i mean not young sorry precious older women like being subjected to like all night rose ceremonies and like you know manipulation like that honestly I'm so this feels like elder abuse wow that was not going to be my take maybe I just you know I'm believing the

the press hype I thought it sounded so beautiful and also interesting like just older people are just more interesting and smarter than younger people and like I actually feel like a real love match could come from this like you really know yourself at that age, what you're looking for, like what you need at this stage of your life. Like I believe in the process here, but all night rose ceremonies is elder abuse. So I actually do agree like conceptually, this isn't the worst idea for a show, but I just have no faith in the production company that produces The Bachelor, whoever it is.

Like they stink at everything. If this show had been on Netflix and they did like a real experiment, I would trust it more. Like the idea isn't bad, but I have no faith in anything that airs on ABC, honestly. That's a good point. I'm sure if it was on Netflix, it would be very good and the elders would be taken care of. I kind of like the idea of them doing like typical Bachelor things. Yeah, like dates. Yeah, and how like kind of corny it is.

And I am going to be hopeful about this. Are you going to watch? Depends on where I'm at in my life. Right, right. I'm open to it. Yeah. I would sooner watch that than the next season of The Bachelor.

Oh my God, in an instant. It should be called The Gratchler. The Great Great Gratchler. No, like The Grandparent's Bachelor. I got it. The Gratchler. The great, great Gratchler. No, like the grandparents' bachelor. I got it. The Gratchler. So brief programming update is that there's a jackhammer outside our window, and we want to be able to give our full-time attention and love to Deer Toasters.

We're going to do Deer Toasters tomorrow. Yeah. In a quiet and peaceful environment so we can mull over your quandaries. And not have a jackhammer in my brain. That's the worst. It's hard to give advice with a jackhammer in your brain. So I'm so sorry to like cut this episode short today, but it's not our fault.

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