The Toast - I've Got Beef Between My Teeth: Thursday, November 14th, 2024

Episode Date: November 14, 2024

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Good morning, millennials. Welcome back to the toast and happy Thursday, a really relaxing sort of day, although it should be Friday. So I'm feeling like the theme of today's episode is injustice. Isn't that the theme of every episode, Latert? So true. When you have a chip on your shoulder like we do every day is like injustice day. It's true.

But it is Thursday, which is exciting. Ladder half vibes. It is. Merch is out. We actually slayed this collection because we made enough merch to wear every day of the week. Cause tomorrow I can still wear my oversized toasty tee. Today I'm wearing my girly swirly university set. Yeah, I graduated from GSU.

Whoa, I mean, talk about getting an education. Talk about a mind. Oh wait, you know what I did yesterday? I didn't even talk to you an education. Talk about a mind. Oh, wait, you know what I did yesterday? I didn't even talk to you. We didn't FaceTime yesterday. But once again, Ben coming between us. He was home last night. I could sense it.

Well, he's not home tonight. So like, just wait. Oh, but I'm not home. Actually, I'm home. I'm home. I have a big, I'm doing something big today. What? I'll tell you guys all about it tomorrow.

You already know. What is Jackie doing today? Think about what the PR company, I told you that they reached out. Oh, Jackie has a big day. Yeah, okay. You guys, it's like literally like not even that crazy. It's like, okay, whatever.

Not at all, not at all. Well, what I did yesterday was kind of like make a dream come true and that dream was my own added to the list of dreams we accomplished in the month of November. I went on the Glee podcast officially. You did say you were going to do a podcast yesterday and you couldn't text for an hour and I didn't even ask which podcast it was.

Yeah, it was the official Glee one and that's what you really missed on Glee. How was it? Was it everything you dreamed of? What episode did you recap? It wasn't a recap. It was just like interviewing, you know, famous gleeks. And so we just talked like a lot about-

Famous gleeks throughout history. Exactly. About like my POV, like my experience watching Glee. And then obviously I was peppering them with questions. They were peppering me with questions hosted by Tina and Artie. A lot of pepper. Yeah. Also known as Jenna and Kevin,

but to me they're Tina and Artie. And I don't know when it's coming out. I think actually soon. It was really good. I'm excited for the, for my fellow gleeks to me they're Tina and Artie. And I don't know when it's coming out, I think actually soon. It was really good. I'm excited for my fellow gleeks to hear it. That's really exciting. I'm glad they still allowed you on despite. Despite, yeah.

Well, I actually, I brought up Ben. And so one of the hosts, one of the hosts, Jenna, is a toaster. And so I had a feeling she might've heard what Ben had said about Artie. And I definitely was going in feeling uncomfortable. So I brought it up first, because Ben was going on and on about Artie

on our Halloween episode. And I'm like, Ben, you can't just say stuff like that. So I brought it up first just to sort of get it out of the way. And nobody seemed offended. They were cool. Phew. Phew. Phew.

Huge sigh of relief. Major. I finished my book last night. You guys don't read it. Something happened. Frida, it's not like, I think Frida was usurped. Like I think someone wrote under her name. Like it was not Frida.

It was a mess. I think that Frida is like actually under too much pressure. Like she had too much success too soon. And you know, she's like an official writer of Amazon. Like she's like a kid. She has a big Kindle unlimited contract. And I think she owes them X amounts of manuscripts per quarter and I think she's buckling

under the pressure of Amazon. I think Jeff Bezos' boot is on her neck and I think we're seeing that reflected in the work. I think Frida could write these books in her sleep and someone took over Frida's name. Maybe she even outsourced, they want all these books from me, you know how to write in the Frida style

and maybe for some people it Passed his Frida. It was not a Frida Rita. I was not a Frida Rita and the Frida Rita that I read that was not a Rita either was called the co-worker Okay, so just putting it out there. What was yours almost called the boyfriend the boyfriend Put it on the list of like Frida books that are not reading in the way that they should I didn't bring my pad and paper up here What do you mean you like literally just get like you my pad and paper up here. What do you mean? You literally just get my pad and paper,

just get a pad and paper and leave it up there. I have pads downstairs and papers. I finished Outer Banks. Wow. Our conversation yesterday got me talking about it and Ben has been hocking me a Chy-nic. Wanna finish Outer Banks? No, actually.

He's so Outer Banks. He's obsessed with Outer Banks. He loves it. And like the experience I'm having where it's, Jackie, like when I thought it could get any more unrealistic, they take a boat from South Carolina to Morocco. Like, like it's so stupid, I actually can't participate.

But- What kind of boat? Oh, they steal this like fishing boat. Oh, and they get caught, oh yeah. They get caught in like a crazy storm. They're in the middle of the ocean in Africa. There's a storm a mile ahead and they drive caught, oh yeah. They get caught in like a crazy storm. They're in the middle of the ocean in Africa. There's a storm a mile ahead and they drive straight into the storm. Two people fall off the boat.

And it's like, it's waves like you would only see in movies. And the whole thing was AI generated and like, they made it out alive. Like boat is intact. Like it's too, it's too unbelievable for me. But Ben is obsessed with it. And what was in Morocco? The blue crown, of course.

Oh God, no. No. No. Yeah, it's really so silly. Ben is obsessed with it. So like, I was happy to not finish it. Like I read a spoiler. I'm like, you know what?

It's good enough for me. But Ben was hacking me all night. Like, want to finish Outer Banks? And it's either that or Harry Potter. He wants to watch the next one. Like I need a serious break from Harry Potter. So I gave him Outer Banks. Okay. That is so fair.

That is so funny. Jackie. And I actually like the last episode was so long. I fell asleep like with 20 minutes left. So Ben was telling me what happened this morning in the last 20 minutes. And his description was so crazy, but I know that that's what happened.

I'm like, there's no way all of this happened in 20 minutes. Wait, but in the last season that I watched, didn't it end with them finding like some sort of treasure? They like give some to like a museum. They're esteemed in the community. Yeah. So do they have money now? Oh, well, they did.

Yes, they did. And what happened to their money? They decided to, it was actually, I actually really liked where it was going at first. They were like, listen, they did, yes, they did. And what happened to their money? They decided to, it was actually, I actually really liked where it was going at first. They were like, listen, we have, and it's not money for life. Between the six of them, I think it was like a million dollars or something.

And they decided to like invest in land. Like the house that John B owns, and then the house JJ grew up in was up for sale at foreclosed, like it was being foreclosed on. So they wanted to buy it and start a business where like people can buy bait from them. They have like a little garden, like, and they were all gonna live on like a commune,

very much like a kybutz, like honestly. And when they went to go buy the land that JJ's dad, who's like a fugitive on the run foreclosed on, someone was also trying to bid it. So it was a property that was worth about like 50, $60,000. They spent $750,000 on it. So like they were being stupid from the get-go and then they had like this little bit of money reserved

for property taxes. And of course, JJ steals it. So like they were being stupid from the get-go and then they had like this little bit of money reserved for property taxes. And of course, JJ steals it and uses it on some bullshit. Like he bet on a race or something. Like, so they had tried to be like smart with the money but they ended up being dumber than anybody could have been. And it was actually, and I'm somebody, I'm like a big priority of mine is like financial. Like it's like, one of my priorities in life

is like financial stability and financial literacy. And to see, and I'm not reckless with my money, I'm really not. Some people, to watch six idiots be so reckless. No, and it's frustrating that all of the seasons, like John Jay had this house that they always could go to. And then the second he comes into money, like, oh, we need to pay for the house.

Yeah, no, and by the way, it's next door to John. So they built this like, they called it Poglandia. Like, actually, the more I talk about the show, the more embarrassed I am to have watched it. Like, so they built this compound, which like between JJ's house, they build like a clubhouse. And all of a sudden, they're next door neighbors. Yeah, that was a new development

that I just sort of went with. Like, and for like 20 minutes in episode two, like they had a thriving business and the people in the community loved 20 minutes in episode two, they had a thriving business and the people in the community loved it. On their dock, they had this bait shop so people could drive up in their boats, buy snacks, bait, merch. It was a good idea and people in the community loved it.

And then of course, their property taxes get raised and they don't have enough money so they have to go to court. And what happened a year ago when they had no money and property taxes got raised? They didn't own this big piece of property yet. Who was paying the rent? I don't know who was paying for John B's house.

Like all of a sudden the financials are a question? No, all of a sudden they're tax paying individuals because yeah, they were all like squatting at John B's property that his dad bought. So he bought it, but like, what about the mortgage, the taxes, the insurance? Like, I don't know. And where's John B's dad now?

I know that he was alive. Yeah. Sorry, spoiler. Yeah, then spoiler, he died. Okay, when? Did I see him die? Did you see them find the city of gold? Yes. Oh, okay. I remember. I remember now.

Yeah, he like sort of sacrificed his own life for Pakistan. And warred, gone. Warred, gone, yeah. Because he tried to like sacrificed his own life for Pakistan. And warred gone. Warred gone, yeah. Because he tried to like steal in the 11th hour. Yeah, exactly. Now I remember, I totally forgot about all that. Thank you for... Now I'm oriented in the show. I know where I am. So it's just, it's... The theme of the show is like genuine silliness.

And like you really need to dispense, suspend so much disbelief. And like we were talking about, we were talking about acting. I'm a person who is like so firmly planted in reality. Like I had a really hard time. And then like the moral compass of the show sort of like gets off kilter where they're all like actual criminals now. Like they stole someone's boat.

What's that guy's story? Yeah, no, and they're not just like, they're not, they used to be, they would break the law like for the sake of something. And now they're just doing it like for fun. And I actually can't. Understood. Well, I might still watch.

It's just like prepare yourself for the silliness. Oh, I will. Yeah. I will. So like- It's Riverdale. It's seriously Riverdale by the sea. It's Riverdale by, I love that.

Riverdale by the sea. So yeah, anything else new with you, live chat since we don't talk anymore? Now that we don't talk, what's new with me? You know, I tried a pop-up bagel yesterday. I've had one before. And it's very rare that like these hype things, like there's a lot of food, foodie stuff,

whether it's restaurants or companies that get like so much hype on social media. And I never end up trying them, because most of the time it's not anything that would entice me, but Ben got a delivery yesterday. They had a collab and I had one of the bagels. Who were they collabing? Ben's favorite, what is that, Pickle de Gallo? Yeah.

You know that stuff Ben loves? They made a cream cheese with them. So Ben got it and tried it and there was like 15, of course Ben got like 20 bagels. And oh my God, they're literally amazing. Like, I know you're gonna say like, how can a bagel be like, what's different? It's a bagel.

No, it's not. It was so fucking good. The presentation is really good and really fun. They popped up down here like a few months ago and Zach like came home with the whole smorgasbord and it was really, it was a good fun thing. And I actually realized I had a pop-up bagel this weekend. Because the restaurant I was dining at serves pop-up bagels.

They're good. Like I feel like I was always clowning on like things everybody likes. And this is something that everybody likes for good reason. Like it's really good. But it's also, it is hard to do like a bad bagel. Actually, I don't agree. You could have a bad bagel, like if you're not trying,

you know some places have stinky bagels, but like it's a delicious thing. It's not a controversial item. I have a hot take, who always has bad bagels? And they actually need to do better, like as a brand. Starbucks. Starbucks? Do not get a bagel at Starbucks.

I mean I have like many times and it's never good. That's crazy, and you live in New York City. Oh, no, no. I like an airport. I never like go instead of like a bagels. No, no, but I've got like Starbucks, New York location shouldn't even have bagels on the menu. Or they should like source local bagels something.

It's disgraceful. They're so bad. They're like worse. They're like what you get in a Delta sky lounge. Like, and honestly, they're same for Duncan. And these are like breakfast places. These are chains of breakfast. And so they should be putting a little bit more

of their Starbussy into their bagel selection. They should do a QLab with perhaps Pop-Up or one of those bagels. They should put their Starbussy into a lot of their items, like most of them. Yeah, yeah. Maybe start with their coffee. Except when I'm criticizing Starbucks, which I often do,

just know I'm not talking about their sourdough grilled cheese. That's a good item. And I think it's really important to have people in your life who are constantly teaching you new things, like friends that you can learn from. And for me, like one of the greatest things Brian Kelly ever did for me was like, actually I was in this studio, we were driving to the Hamptons,

he picked me up after the toast. He's like, oh, I got you Starbucks, like I picked you up a grilled cheese. And I'm like, wait, they have grilled cheese at Starbucks? I had never heard. When I tell you it was the most delicious thing and I get them all the time because Ben goes to Starbucks every morning

and sometimes I'm like, yeah, I'm being fat. I'm like, grab me one of those grilled cheeses. Throw it in. It's huge, it's oily, it's cheesy. You know it's 10,000 calories. It is absolutely divine. Not enough people know about it. It's kind of like a secret menu item.

Oh, secret project. Check it out next time you go. I know you don't go to Starbucks but the next time you do, check it out. I don't, my husband goes all the time. I like their egg bites, I'll say that. They're a little needlessly oily, but they're good. Are your kids obsessed with cake pops yet?

Like I know that's like a part of like modern children's. I mean, if I gave them one, they'd be obsessed, but they don't know what that is. Yeah, you'll be making them at home in no time. Oh, how cute. Yeah, oh, I have to say something and I don't mean to embarrass my husband, but the absolute craziest thing happened last night.

What? So at like four-ish, we were deciding on dinner and we're like, you know what, let's like have like a good dinner. Like let's really treat ourselves. So we went to the kosher grocer and he got like two huge rib eyes. Oh, for cooking. For cooking.

He cooked up this feast, so I'm like sitting on the couch and he's making me dinner. And it's just like a great night, you know, and the house smells good. The smoke alarms going off. Like it's good. And we sit down and whenever we make steak,

Ben puts the steak on cutting boards and cuts it up. And then we just like eat straight off the cutting board. So like looking at all the different pieces, I'm like, you know, I'm very particular, grab a piece and like, he was like, how is it? And Ben makes really good steaks. So like I wasn't even concerned. And it was like, literally, it was horrible. And I was like, how?

I was like, it just tastes like a little bland. And then he was like, he was like, oh my God. I forgot to like season the steak, like marinate it or whatever before, like I just put it on the grill. But can't you do that? No, I'm sorry. Like Worcestershire, salt, pepper, oregano, like whatever.

Salt, pepper, salt, pepper. No, no, I ate a plain steak. He just forgot to cook it? Yeah, and I was like, are you okay? And then he started- Did he like it? Well, at first, before he realized his mistake, he took a bite, he's like, I think it's good. I'm like, no, you don't. Then he started- Did he like it? Well, at first, before he realized his mistake, he took a bite.

He's like, I think it's good. I'm like, no, you don't. Then he was like, wait. And he tried to put Worcestershire on it like after. Oh. Yeah. But like Worcestershire is something that needs to be cooked. Like it was like- 100%. It might as well have raw egg in it.

Yeah, exactly. And I was so like quiet mad. I was like, not me. You made me wait like two hours and this is what I ate. Like actually- That's insane. Did he have it with like steak sauce this is what I ate. Like actually. Insane. Did he have it with like steak sauce? Cause he could really dress anything up.

Of course, you know, he made like a blend of, Ben can make anything work. Of course he made a blend. And I went to bed hungry and I just thought like, he walks around celebrity chef, celebrity chef, you literally forgot to marinate your steak. Like he needs to be shamed for that. Season it.

Crazy, no? Little seasoning. And then he blamed me. Wait, he blamed me. How? He was like, well, I really didn't wanna make a dish. So I was like planning on seasoning it like whilst still in the packaging.

And like, obviously I forgot, but because like whenever I tell him to cook, I'm like, just try and like be prudent with the amount of dishes. Like I always say, like don't make a ton of dishes. So he like literally used that against me. I see. It's a really good strategy on his part. It is. But I always say, like, don't make a ton of dishes. So he like literally used that against me. I see. It's a really good strategy on his part.

It is. But I'm not buying it. I'm not buying it either. Like, look at me, do I look frail and weak? I didn't have dinner last night. No, that's so crazy, because I had the opposite experience, because I actually had so much beef last night.

I don't know if you saw my story, but I made hamburger meatballs. I mean, you do look jacked, like seriously. Oh, I'm so broke. I didn't see your story. I made hamburger meatballs, which mean, you do look jacked, like seriously. Oh, I just see your story. I made hamburger meatballs, which are they just meatballs? Like, no, because- They're not meatballs,

they're more hamburgers than they are meatballs. Yeah, because it's all about the seasoning. Like I didn't use Italian seasoning. I just seasoned them the way I would season a hamburger. But like a girl can't make a hamburger. It just can't be done. Like I don't use my grill. I'm not making it on the stove,

but I can make a meatball. So I made them into little balls and they were so tasty. Hamburger meatballs. But it's also all about the vibes too, because yes, technically the ingredients aren't that dissimilar from an Italian meatball. But it's the vibe.

It would little ketchup, a little cheese, a little pickle, tomato, onion. Like girls can't make hamburgers. I'm in complete agreement. Unless like at the kosher grocer, they actually sell pre-packaged patties. Like unless the patties are made and they put like garlic and onion,

they make them for you. For sure. Let me ask you, how would you cook that? Ben taught me it's four minutes on each side. Like it's actually incredibly easy. I tried to make a hamburger on the stove once and I didn't love the results. The caraway cast iron, that's what I use.

I like to put meat in the oven. Ben and I always talk about this. He likes to cook meat on the stove. He doesn't like to use the oven when he cooks. I like to dress up my food and put it in the oven so I know when it comes out, it's ready. I don't have to keep checking it, thermometer. Like I just know.

My problem is like, why is it that you can make a patty no matter how like long and flat you make it? Like it ends up in a round ball. Like why does it always shrivel up? Like how do you even make a smash burger? Like I've never, every time I've made a hamburger, it like shrivels up like to a testicle. What is that?

I don't know, but that's why I just went straight for the meatball shape and it was really good. We are all doing what we have to do to survive. And I get that. Like you got dinner on the table for you and your family and anyone who has anything to say about that, will talk to me first. And we had plenty of beef.

We had beef between our teeth. I've got beef between my teeth. It would be lost without my flaws. The way that episode of Sweet Life's Dag and Cody had such an impact on me individually and like only me and my group of friends from high school are obsessed with it. I feel as though it's not like a cultural thing

that everybody talks about and references. I don't even know what it was about. And I just know it was the kid from Ugly Betty, Betty's sister's son. Justin Suarez. Justin Suarez. I was gonna say Justin Guarini. Justin Suarez, he has Justin Guarini energy

in that episode of Sweet Life of Zack and Cody where he leaves it all on the stage. Yeah. So like that's just something that meant a lot to me. I Cody where he leaves it all on the stage. Yeah. So like, that's just something that meant a lot to me. I forget where I was going. He left no crumbs. He ate and left no crumbs, exactly. So try out hamburger meatballs.

If you are looking for a family friendly dish and you've got ground beef and you don't know what to do with it. I just know that Ben's not home for dinner tonight. So like, I will be eating like. What are you craving turd? Like I'm just gonna be eating, like eat what I find. Oh, you know, you have those pop-up bagels.

That's probably what I'll have. You'll be scavenging. It'll be rough for me, like tonight. Okay, well I'll FaceTime you because at least we'll have that. Like with Ben, you'll go hungry. Yeah. Without Ben, you'll go hungry,

but you will be like emotionally fulfilled. Not that you wouldn't be with Ben, but sisterly fulfilled. Yeah, it's kind of like a different sort of fulfillment. It is a different fulfillment center. For sure. So Thursdays are great, cause they're very relaxed, right?

Like Wednesday we had so much to do between the merch launch and dear toasters. I definitely felt like a little bit on edge throughout the entire experience. Oh, I'm so sorry. Yeah, no, it's okay. And I got through it and I think everybody really enjoyed. So that's great.

Today, Thursdays, I find so relaxing. It's like the day before Friday. We have nothing to do Friday. We have Queenie and Weenie. We always like to like wrap things up. Today, we can just like talk, you know? Yeah, we actually have some really funny random stories. Funny?

Yeah, I'm excited to get into some of them. And I guess like without further ado, we could do that. I wasn't bringing up the run of show for the purpose. Sometimes I do bring up the run of show for the purpose of moving into the second half. But if you have anything else you want to chat about, I'm open to chatting. No, I feel as though we've dilly'd and we've dally'd.

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Craig Melvin is the new anchor of The Today Show Savannah Guthrie-Gusht of one of those popular decisions NBC News has ever made. Hoda said to Craig, you were made for this job, you will have all the things that this job needs, you're the right person for it. Al Roker said that he did not have the words but he was so happy for his colleague. As for Craig, he's excited and grateful. He said it meant a lot to inherit the role from Hoda as she is the heart of the show. He said, this is the latest in a long line of blessings. He will continue doing the third hour today

with Al Roker, Chanel Jones, and Dylan Dreier. He said, I talked to mom and dad yesterday and I'm thankful they're still young enough and healthy enough to be able to see this. So that was really sweet. Meanwhile, the fourth hour, Hoda and Jenna will transition into Jenna and Friends where Jenna will quote,

date different co-hosts until they find the right fit. Until they find the right fit. But I would just say, make haste. It's Jeopardy. It's Jeopardy. I do prefer a decision, but I understand like you got to see how the shows actually go. By the way, I saw this Craig News this morning and for me like the, I don prefer a decision, but I understand like you gotta see how the shows actually go.

By the way, I saw this Craig news this morning and for me like the, I don't know if I'm unique in the fact like I don't care who replaces Hoda when she's like doing the news. Like that's the job a million people could do. Like to sit and kiki and talk to celebrities, like that's so interesting and I think that requires such a different skill set and so that's been my focus.

Like that's who I'm really eager to see. So happy for Craig, like I'm really like he's a cutie. I really don't know much about him. He'll do a great job. I don't care. I didn't realize that they had like made somewhat of an announcement when it comes to the Jenna thing. I thought they just announced the Craig.

They slipped this in. They slipped this the fucking. And I hate this. This is exactly what you said. Exactly what you said when we were talking about this. Like that they not do the Jeopardy thing where they try out a million people. People stop caring.

And it didn't work for Jeopardy because they ended up hiring the person they meant to hire. The first day they found out Alex Trebek died, stop caring. And it didn't work for Jeopardy because they ended up hiring the person they meant to hire the first day they found out Alex Trebek died, but they didn't because he had some old tweet about someone in a wheelchair. Like they should have just made that decision day one because it got so stupid. Because if they announce someone right now

or say give Craig his moment, announce someone next week, this is who's going to be with Jenna. Like there'll be so much excitement and fanfare as opposed to just like everyone sort of losing interest. And then it's like, this person is the best. Like, and also if I was that person, and I feel like people come through the Today Show all the time, I'm surprised Jenna doesn't have a,

or maybe it's not up to Jenna, but I feel like she would know who she'd like to do it with. If she had a preference, like she could definitely push it forward. I feel like she really likes Justin Sylvester. And I think the culture really likes Justin Sylvester. I think it's a great, great choice. And I'm sure they'll have like three or four people

in rotation and it'll become clear, like who the favorite is based on like, you know, social media and ratings, but I hate this. I can't lie. I would love to see who is even an option. Like who would these friends will be. Cause of course like Justin Sylvester comes to mind for us. Cause we know that he co-hosts a lot and like we love him.

But I wonder who are like the obvious names. In rotation. Yeah, I'm looking. Who are they saying? Who will even be on Jenna and Friends? Who are the friends? Right, and is it people that we know have already guest co-hosted

or are these people Jenna's putting forward for the job? Like people in her life. Right, maybe other hosts out there. Yeah, cause it's like Justin, who else? I know Heather co-hosts, who else does like frequently? Not just one time. But we only like know that because we follow them on Instagram.

Yeah, it's like in our circle. Yeah. So I'm sure if we followed other people on Instagram, let me go look. What's their show called? Hoda and Jenna. Yeah. I do like the Hoda and Jenna. Yeah. I do like the name Jenna in Friends.

I just want to say. I know, but I feel like it's like a bad, like think about Kelly Ripa. It's hard to see who's hosting and who's a guest. I think that it's a bad precedent. Like when you think about Kelly Ripa, when you don't immediately make a decision, like it's just bad.

And I feel like with the Regis and Kelly show, or however it started, I forget, Regis and Kathy, they, every time somebody left, boom, there was a new person. And you know, we all got with it. Regis, like it became Regis and Kathy, Regis and Kelly, Kelly and- Ryan. Ryan, no, no, Kelly and Michael.

Like every time they switched the names of the show, like we all just kind of got on board and it became a part, it was like a part of the vernacular. We had an easy time. We're like, yeah, Kelly and Ryan, Kelly and Mark, Kelly and Michael. And I actually think, I know she's had her issues, but that's a really good example of how to transition

someone out of a role quickly and just like, the public gets on board. They just do. But when you dilly dally like this, like it's silly. Make a choice. That's always what I'm saying. Make a choice dilly dally like this, it's silly. Make a choice. That's always what I'm saying. Make a choice. I don't like this.

They could also be testing people behind the scenes. They don't have to do it all in the public. I think they knew Hoda was leaving for a little while. And I think that anytime one of them was off, they were testing people. Yeah. I think they've been testing people for like a year. Yeah, I think they think that this will drum up excitement,

but I think it's gonna be the opposite. I think it will drum up exhaustion. Agreed. It's jeopardy. But congratulations to Craig Melvin. Congrats. Job a million girls would kill for. It's so true.

And you know what? Like you love to see journalists roles going to journalists. I think that's kind of rare these days. It's usually an influencer. It's so true. Maybe it'll be an influencer with Jenna. I would love that. But probably someone a bit older.

I actually feel like if I thought long and hard about it, we could come up with some good names. You know, like- But it is so much about chemistry. If you even pulled from all of those like talk shows that went away, like- Meredith Vieira, Bethany. No, like the talk, the real.

The real, yeah, yeah. There's a lot of swirlies who have good hosting, daytime background. Right. Adrienne Bylon, Lonnie Love. Where are all those girls? Garcelle. Amanda Klutz.

Yay, the Chew. The Chew. So go over there. Daphne Oz. Maybe there's something there. Daphne Oz. Daphne Oz. I like her. She's dazzling.

She is dazzling. She's a nice life. I like following her on social media. Yeah. So are you ready for our next story? Yeah. Which is sort of the hot gossip of the day. Oh.

Teddy Mellencamp allegedly cheated on her husband, Edwin, with her married horse trainer and a heated confrontation ensued. So we went from knowing absolutely nothing about this divorce to now I feel knowing too much. Agreed and not in the way, like I don't know why I just assumed like Edwin was the villain, not Teddy.

Right, so apparently Teddy Mellencamp cheated on her husband with a married friend, an insider with direct knowledge of the situation told Page Six that she allegedly stepped out on him several times with her longtime pal, whose then wife was also a close friend. So this guy has been identified, his name is Simon Schroeder, he's her horse trainer,

and his wife's name is Carly Postel. That just will be germane as we go forward. So the two of them have two children. And apparently when Teddy and Simon were in Florida together for an equestrian event, while his wife was in California in labor with their second child, his wife thought it was suspicious that her husband was in Florida when she was giving birth.

When he returned to LA, the insider says that she allegedly discovered inappropriate text messages between him and Teddy, which led to a heated public confrontation. Apparently they confessed, Teddy promised it would not happen again. And the wife didn't tell Edwin when she found out because she was willing to give Simon another chance.

Oh wow. However, Daily Mail source said that the wife learned last month that the alleged sexual relationship not only continued, but also became emotional. So she told Edwin. Then Teddy filed for divorce so that Edwin did not have the chance to file

and get her for adultery. It has been alleged that the marriage ended because Edwin cheated on Teddy, but it's actually the other way around, this Daily Mail source says. Justice for Edwin. Not us all dragging his name through the mud like with literally no proof.

But the timeline is so confusing to me because she filed for divorce on November 1st and listed the date of separation as October 20th, even though they were packing on the PDA at a charity event four days later. Isn't that like lying to the government? I have no idea. Like falsifying documentation.

I'm literally like that scene in Elle Woods. Unless it's like true, like maybe they were like splitting. Maybe they had like ones. Unless it's true, maybe they were splitting. Maybe they had one great last night together. Yeah, I mean, I guess anything's possible. Plausible giant-bility. They were just putting it off of the cameras. Yeah, or they were like, let's just give them a show. The craziest part of this whole saga

is the wife finding out and not telling Edwin. I guess a situation like that, it's every man for himself. I'm trying to protect my family, my marriage. She owes nobody anything. Like, bitch, I'm just trying to get through this. But I never thought about like when, like if a spouse finds out,

like do you tell the other spouse? I guess it all depends on the relationships. But I guess she didn't wanna make the whole thing bigger than it was if she was gonna give him another chance. And she just sort of wanted to go away. So if then, what if Edwin found out left Teddy and Teddy becomes single and now she's hanging around your mans? Right, right. And then, what if Edwin found out, left Teddy and Teddy becomes single and now she's hanging around your mans?

Right, right. You're trying to make it work and you have a baby. And I so didn't see this for Teddy. I think like the Teddy that we got to know on the show, like she was very much like a pushover. Like she wasn't making strong decisions. Like- But I also feel like she was very like much,

she acted as a moral character. Yeah, yeah. So this is really surprising, but it's a moral character. Yeah, yeah. So this is really surprising, but it's also like so Beverly Hills, like not the horse trainer. Yeah, and like, is it Sassy's brother? It's giving the politician. It's also, I think made Teddy Mellencamp,

at least to me, far more interesting. I don't know if interesting is a word I would have used to describe her up until this point. And so to see that, not that there's anything like admirable about having an affair, but it takes a set of balls. And I never saw that for her. Like she didn't seem like a freewheeling kind of gal.

I guess, but also I know all she wanted was like privacy and not to speak on it. And I think when we thought it was something else that could be the case, but now that this is all out there, like she's- Privacy revoked. No, no, she's gonna talk about, if she doesn't talk about it.

It's an admission of guilt. And it's just hard cause she has a podcast. Like she talks, if this were a housewife who just like, you know, does the show, well, the other women will bring it up, but like post on Instagram, like- Which is not even on the show anymore. Right, no, but like when you have a podcast

and we're always hearing from you. No, not only that and the concept of their show, they're like always digging in on other people. So it's like, you can't dish in and not take it. Yeah, no, if she were on the show, it would come up, but I'm just saying like the podcasting, I feel like that's what we were saying about Briana Chicken Fry.

It's like when you don't, when something is so out in the public about your personal life, that's something like, I don't know, I just feel like it's really hard to navigate if you don't address it at all. It is, and I think that's also an important distinction. Whenever we're talking about the difference between influencers and celebrities,

celebrities really are afforded the luxury of that privacy. They don't have to speak. You're not doing it, you're not on press, unless you're in the middle of a press junket. But if you're not working, you can literally take six months of silence and people will forget about it. But influencers, like your job is to constantly

be making content, staying relevant, being on like the scene. And so it makes it virtually impossible to like deal with things privately. Yeah. But there's just as much intrigue in you as there is in celebrities. I would argue there's sometimes even more intrigue in like influencer drama or an influencer divorce

than like a celebrity divorce, because there's like this weird parasocial relationship between like followers. And so you feel even more. Yeah. So you're getting even like more intrigue and sort of, there's like a higher level of interest

than like even a traditional celebrity. And like, you can't get away from it. And for Teddy, there's a higher level of interest than if she was just a former housewife, like Camille Grammer cheated on her new husband. Like that just wouldn't- Nobody would care. Right.

Yeah, no, it's really crazy. It's really crazy. So we'll keep you posted. But that was the plot twist of the century. Yeah. Speaking of rumored affairs, are you ready for this next one? Our favorite story of the year.

What? Hugh Jackman's ex-wife, Deborah Lee Furness, is subtly reacting to his alleged affair with Sutton Foster. Okay, Deb's laying on me. Because you know I write for Deb's, but like honestly in this situation, she's taking back to you. Yeah, no, but she's like spilling tea in her own way.

So, Hugh Jackman may not have been a free agent when he allegedly started his romance with Sutton Foster. He was married to Deborah Lee Furness for 27 years. The two announced they were divorcing. Rumors have swirled over the past few months that he possibly stepped out of his marriage. And now the Australian actress, that's Deborah Lee Furness, has seemingly reacted to the news of his relationship.

So Deb liked a post from her private Instagram account of a gossip blogger, Tasha Lustig, claiming that Jackman had blindsided Deb by sharing his relationship with Sutton. Deb's friend, British media personality, Amanda DeCandinet, also weighed in on the allegations writing in a comment last month, you are on point with this one,

my beloved friend Deb is about to have her glow up any moment, FYI. That's kind of like- I completely agree. That was like a beyond unnecessary comment for this girly to make. I just feel like they're trying to like get in there, but they're also just like-

Grown women. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think she realized what she meant by that. I think this is, this might be their first rodeo. Like- I think she meant like, she's about to have a moment, you know? Yeah. Not like-

Not like she's ugly. A makeover. Yeah. Okay. She's about to start glowing. So this I feel might be a situation where we need to trust our faves. Who's our fave in this situation?

I don't know. I don't know. Like, I really don't know. I fear that I can see this being the reality, right? They worked on a project very closely together. They were both married and now a year later, they're both divorced and in a relationship. So obviously it's entirely possible that they fell in love,

never did anything wrong, went home, divorced their partners and came together only at a time where it was acceptable to do so. However, the injured party could call that an affair because they fell in love. That's not an affair. If you develop feelings for someone and you're in a relationship

and you go home and end that relationship, like that's the right thing to do. You can't stop yourself from having feelings, but you can stop yourself from acting on those feelings. Yes, but then think about really the timeline. Say you're like, at first, it's just you feel this way about someone, but you're not gonna leave your wife. You don't know if they feel that way about you, you kind of like need

that confirmation and then you're getting into emotional affair territory. It's really hard to do this in a clean way. Okay but I think there's a world- Like which doesn't like you back? Okay that's a really good point but I do feel like there is a world in which like you can find out that the other person likes you and you both go home and get divorced. And that's not an affair. But don't you kind of have to see that through a little bit just to confirm if it's more than what you have at home? I mean, it's very reckless to not, but I just, I think it's possible.

27 years? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, I mean, I'm trying to... I know, I think they probably went about it in the best, most respectful way possible and it can even hold space for maybe that it wasn't even, didn't even get physical until all was said and done, but the injured party can still say that's an affair.

Yeah, yeah, so it gets murky. And also I think that, you know, you can maintain that nothing happened between this person, but your wife is not gonna believe you, you're leaving me over this person, you obviously fucked her. So there's his story, her story, and the truth, right? There's history and there's her story. Well, you just said a mouthful there, sister.

What am I choosing to believe? I'm choosing to believe that everybody's truth is their own. I agree, and I'm choosing to believe that of course this wasn't the ideal situation. I believe that Sutton and Hugh went about it in the best way that they could have while also betraying the people that

they loved. Yeah. And I think that we have to hold space for like every generation. There's sort of like a once in a love, once in a lifetime, once in a lifetime kind of love. And sometimes you have to hurt people for that. And I fear that Hugh and Sutton might just be that once in a lifetime. Once in a lifetime kind of love. And sometimes you have to hurt people for that. And I fear that Hugh and Sutton might just be that once in a lifetime kind of love. And he just like got in the way.

And it's unfortunate, but think about it like, okay, the notebook, right? Allie and Noah, once in a lifetime kind of love. She was out here cheating on James Marsden. Yeah, and he was a great guy too. Yeah, he wasn't perfect, but he loved her and he wanted to marry her. And even if he wasn't, like infidelity, she cheated on him.

But we all ship because we know what was at stake and that was Ali and Noah and they were OTP. Think of Sutton and Hugh, I challenge you to think of Sutton and Hugh as more of an Ali and a Noah and you'll see it very clearly. That's just like, and people don't like this one, Camilla and Charles. It's exactly like Camilla and Charles.

Yeah, it's just cause it's not Ryan Gosling. You guys are singing a different tune. And the thing is, if he wasn't Prince Charles at the time, he would have left his wife way sooner, but he was like legally barred from doing. So he was begging his gran for divorce. Well, he would have married her to begin with. And that's- Well, of course, of course. He should have been with Camilla from the beginning. And what, they'd said no to was begging his gran for a divorce. Well, he would have married her to begin with. And that's-

Well, of course, of course. He should have been with Camilla from the beginning. And what they said no to her because she wasn't a virgin and how- Yeah, by the way, Jackie's delivering absolute facts right now. It's Camilla and Charles. So I feel like two lists are brewing here.

And now I'm officially starting the list of couples we don't care about separately, but together we love. Because now we have two instances this week. Sutton and Hugh. Hugh Jackman and Sutton Foster, even though I did love Hugh Jackman before and Olivia Munn and John Mulaney. Now we love them separately, but we came here. Yeah. We come to this place for magic. Yeah. And then also if you did want to do a list of like this situ of the Camilla Charles, like

where it's not okay, but it's understandable. Where situations where infidelity was understandable. Here, I'm calling it true love trumping infidelity. Ali and Noah, cause they're the blueprint. Yes. And if you liked the notebook, then you like this. It's true.

Ali and Noah, Sutton and Hugh. Camilla and Charles. Camilla and Charles. Feel free to sound off in the comments. Any other situations where cheating just felt like it had to be done? I feel more organized getting this out down on paper. All week I've been like a mess

trying to remember my references. Yeah. Well, if you could just get that pad and paper, pad and pen, it would be all squared away. That pad and pen. Okay. Yeah. No, that pad and paper, pad and pen, it would be all squared away. That pad and pen. Okay. Yeah, no, that pad and pen. Pad and pen, yeah. I keep saying pad and paper and I'm wrong for that.

Yeah, and then I said it. How am I gonna write? Now we both look stupid. How am I gonna write when I just have two pieces of paper? Ha ha ha ha. That's funny. So that's the latest with Deb. Furness.

Deborah Lee Furness. And as he would call her, he used to call her affection the latest with Deb. Furness. Deborah Lee Furness. And as he would call her, he used to call her affectionately. My Deb. My Deb. No, he's not your Deb. My Sut doesn't hit the same. Are you ready for our next story?

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calling out Hollywood Industries, quote, women empowering other women's stance. She said all of it is fake. So Sydney Sweeney is calling out some people in Hollywood who tear another woman down privately while publicly proclaiming they are empowering women. In a new interview with Vanity Fair, she cited the industry's attitude of, quote,

women empowering other women as untrue. This is what she said, quote, It's very disheartening to see women tear other women down, especially when women who are successful in other avenues of their industry see younger talent working really hard, hoping to achieve whatever dreams that they may have and then trying to bash and discredit

any work that they've done She said this entire industry all people is saying all people say is women empowering other women None of it's happening all of it is fake and a front for all the other shit that they say behind everyone's back She noted that there are so many studies in different opinions on the reasoning behind it and said that it's a generation problem to believe Only one woman can be at the top So it feels like she is citing a specific instance, like something obviously happened to her and she's making like sweeping generalizations about the industry.

Although I do see this, like I feel like we had that conversation when it came to Olivia Wilde, right? When that video Shia, Shia, Shia, like her begging Shia LaBeouf to be in her film, even though like female castmates had expressed concern about working with him because he's like crazy. And she didn't give a shit like, but she's one of the women who walks around wearing

a herstory t-shirt. Women empowering women, the female, whatever. So I can definitely see, I know I agree 100% that there are people in the industry who are like, their platforms is all about like telling women's stories and they're the nastiest bitches you've ever met in your entire fucking life. Yeah. I don't know if that's the whole industry. And I think that Sydney Sweeney is like speaking from experience. Something your entire fucking life. I don't know if that's the whole industry. And I think that Sydney Sweeney is like speaking

from experience, something obviously happened to her. I don't know who it is. I don't know who it is. Did anyone come to mind for you of who it could be? Yes. I wonder. And I have no proof. And I think I-

It's probably the loveliest person who books so many female, I don't know why this person just came to mind because I love her. Let's say it on the count of three. Three, two, one, Reese Witherspoon. Yeah. You wanna know why it came to mind?

Because it feels like Sidney Sweeney is putting together a career that's really similar to Reese Witherspoon in the sense that so much more than just acting. Reese Witherspoon has been producing, she's been like optioning. I mean, Sidney Sweeney has been producing, optioning books, like building something

beyond her own acting, just like getting cast in movies. And yeah, I also got a Reese Witherspoon vibe and I have no proof. I have no proof that's funny that you got the same vibe, though. But also, like, here's a quote earlier this year that a producer said about Sydney Sweeney, which was like not nice. And so I guess this is like the vibe of what people have to say about her. She said there's an actress, the producer's name is Carol Baum. I don't know who that is.

She said there's an actress who everybody loves now, Sydney is Carol Baum. I don't know who that is. She said, there's an actress who everybody loves now, Sydney Sweeney. I don't get Sydney Sweeney. I was watching on the plane Sydney Sweeney's movie, Anyone But You, because I wanted to watch it. I wanted to know who she is and why everybody's talking about her. I watched this unwatchable movie.

Sorry to people who love this romantic comedy where they hate each other. She said, I said to my class, she teaches at USC, explain this girl to me. She's not pretty, she can't act. Why is she so hot? Nobody had an answer. But then the question was asked,

well, if you could get your movie made because she was in it, would you do it? That's a very hard question to answer because we all wanna get the movie made and who walks away from a green light? Nobody I know. Your job is to get the movie made. Okay, I have to say, I agree with Carol

that that movie was unwatchable, but everything else she said was so beyond unnecessary, like coming for her looks and it's like well If we're gonna criticize all different parts of the industry like why are you starting with Sidney Sweeney? Like you're not a woman who supports that there's so there are things wrong with the industry I'm sorry Sidney Sweeney is not one of those things. No and Sidney Sweeney is very pretty Yeah, like please what do you look like Carol? Like let's start there But there's no I actually I actually was, some, who was it, Matt Damon? Is he the one Good Will Hunting?

Yeah. He was doing an interview. I don't know when it was, but he was talking about why the movies that he used to make like Good Will Hunting, why movies like that don't really get made anymore, and why it's all like big budget Marvel superhero movies. And he said like, back in the day, like your movie would come out in theaters

and it would do what a however it did. And then later when it came out on DVD, like it was like a second wave. You had like two opportunities to make a lot of money. But now that movies just go to the streamers, they have to crush it at the box office. That's where they're gonna make all their money. And they're only going with sure things.

And that is like the superhero movies, the remakes, the big budget things. So movies that are a good idea, that need some time and love and building up to a code following don't get made. And that's why the movies, and so like that to me is like something you could start chewing on about the movie industry.

Before you start saying it's Sydney Sweeney ruined the movie industry. Yeah, and I think like Sydney Sweeney probably gets a lot of flack and like judgment immediately because of her looks, right? She's like this very beautiful girl. She embraces her sexuality like,

and a huge part of like what catapulted her was like, her boobs, like that was like a thing. And so I'm sure she gets like initial shock and judgment from that. But I think if you look at her career, like even if you don't know everything about her, like she's clearly proved herself. She's a very talented actress.

She does do so many things beyond just acting. She produces. She, I think she's like starting a production company. So it is this woman who is supposed to be a professor, like just sort of whittling it down to her looks. Like that's insulting. And I don't know if in this article, she's referencing this professor.

Feels like a lot. I don't think that she is by the way. Me either. Because it feels like she's talking about someone that we do know. And she's also talking about the entire industry. It's a blanket statement. I feel like people don't often make statements like that.

Like they're everyone who says women, all the women. And she's not even saying Hollywood men and women don't support, she's saying the women don't support the women. So I just have to think of like the women who say they support the women the most. And then I'm like, she's saying they don't. And like tell women stories.

Right. Like who's always talking like that? It's a pretty, I mean, she's used the word women like a lot in the quotes. So it was like kind of hard to read. And it was painful to hear. But it is like a pretty big call out. It is.

And this is somebody who's successful and she's in the industry. I think a lot of people like talk about the industry from the outskirts of it. We're like, yeah, okay, whatever. But Sydney Sweeney is firmly planted at the center of things. She's on one of the biggest shows. Her movie was huge. She is speaking from experience.

She gets in those rooms. I could see women who purport to support other women, support some women, but not women like Simi Sweeney. I could see how she's getting shut out for being said. Yeah, I agree. And I know like I have no reason to believe this, but it's 100% Reese Witherspoon.

No, I'm sorry. She's describing Reese Witherspoon. Someone who all love. She is, right? Someone who gives jobs and is at, she is, sorry. sorry. She's describing Reese Witherspoon. Someone you all love. She is, right? Someone who gives jobs and is, she is. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah.

Yeah. And someone who didn't accomplish everything she wants to accomplish. They even look alike. They look alike. And that's the thing. It's like, yeah, you can conveniently support women. Cause you think about the women like Reese Witherspoon

is always like casting and championing Nicole Kidman, Laura Dern. Women who don't really infringe on her place in Hollywood. They can all coexist without any sort of competition. They're all so different, even though they look exactly the same. But Sydney Sweeney is like, appears to be on her way to building something similar.

Yeah. So interesting. So who do you think it's about? Sound off in the comments. Our fifth and final story I'm kind of obsessed with. It's one of my favorite tropes. A celebrity dating a reality star. Oh my God. I love who.

It's so fucking random. So fucking random. Remember Mod Son, he dated Avril Lavigne. I know. And Bella Thorne. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And my girl from- He's technically a singer.

From the DBF show. He's technically like a singer with fans, allegedly. The only time I have ever heard his name is in regards to Tana Mongeau, Bella Thorne, Avril Lavigne. He dates like, yeah. Yeah, well he was spotted packing on the PDA with Love is Blind star, Brittany Wisniewski, who is Brittany from Leo and Brittany from this most recent

season of Love is Blind. Yeah. And they got proper proper outside TMZ, like holding hands, leaving a restaurant. So I think from this article says that they first connected on November 3rd at his concert. So that's like not even two weeks ago. Um, while performing on stage, he spotted the group in the crowd. She was with some friends and gave them a special shout out which she documented on TikTok saying respectfully,

are both of you on the show Love is Blind? Oh my God, that's so funny. He said, my name is Maude. And then in the clip she could be seeing, blowing him a kiss before the video cut off. I guess maybe she was going as his, oh maybe they had already met, that's possible. Now a video I take my TMZ shows them getting handsy

while dancing to Party in the USA. Now my initial thought when I saw this was like, yikes. It's like not a good look for Britney. Why? Because I think that like when you go on these shows, like you are constantly trying to beat the allegations that you went on for fame. Even though like, and maybe some people go on to

fall in love, but everybody's going on a little bit for the fame to quit their jobs and make influencer money. And I think that that was an allegation that was thrown around a lot about her, like just being kind of, like having her priorities a little materialistic, like even when it came to other questions about Leo and his money and his watch.

And so for her to end up with like a D-list celebrity, like on TMZ, like I didn't think it was a good look. To be honest, I actually think this gives her some credit because in the show, like she says, I dated rock stars. Maybe like he's an ex of hers. Cause when she was saying that on the show, it's like, okay, sure. But now it's like maybe-

Okay, grandma, let's get you back to bed. Maybe she has dated rock stars. She continues to, he is a rock star, technically. Like maybe it's not Harry Styles. But like she said that she could really be with someone who has a lot of money, like she's been with that before, that's actually not what she was looking for.

It doesn't help that she then went back to that sort of lifestyle, but I think it gives her some credit. If somebody said to me, Claudia, we'll give you $11 billion tax-free. All you have to do is name one Mod Sun song. I wouldn't be able to do it. I couldn't take the money.

I could not, I could guess. I couldn't even guess. Why don't you just like guess? Whoa, whoa Mod Son, yeah. Okay, I'm gonna go to his discography, but before I do, I'm gonna guess like what, he couldn't even have a song called like... Okay. I'm like, flames of love.

Okay. That's kind of good. Okay. Wait, let me, let me, wait, wait, wait. What's like a title of a song that like a lot of people have the same title. Do you know what I mean? Right, right, right. Like something with, oh, I already did love to different words than me, to increase our chances. Get you back. Okay. Chances. Get you back.

OK. Yeah, that's my Claudia. He has a song called Flames with Avril Lavigne. And I swear I've never seen it before. I believe you. Oh, my God. So do I get like five and a half? I got half of it. Oh, he has I'd rather overdose. Oh, this would have been a good guess karma

Fuck because I was thinking Taylor Swift songs me too. I was like God of the woods He has song called sunshine. That would also have been a really good guess. These aren't doing words We should get you back in case some wait, I'll go to all his um, he has a song called I told you Karma bones flames. Oh, he does one word. Okay, that's good to know. Oh, so I'm out. Better Man. Is he obsessed with Taylor Swift? Prayer, 20 Num, Smith, Roller Coaster,

Annoying, Porn Star, Internet Killed the Rock Star. Okay, so he'll get you back. Honestly, I feel like we did pretty good. Like, I know we didn't make $11 billion. But we're going home empty handed. But we didn't embarrass ourselves. I just don't understand like how, and this is just like honestly like the gender imbalance.

Like if there was a successful woman who was on the same level looks wise as this person, like no way would they be pulling women or men of equal looks to Tana Mongeau, Brittany, Avril Lavigne. These were ugly. I don't like his vibe, but let me get a look at his face. Yeah, me too.

I actually feel like maybe he has a handsome face behind all that hair and drum kits. Oh my god, like mod son. Okay, I just feel like the pictures of him are good pictures. No, I'm sorry. I stand by what I said. I think that if he did something else,

he's making himself ugly. He's got nice features. It's so easy for men though. It's so true. You know? What does he have like a magic penis? He's not even famous. Who is this person?

He's like a rock star. In what world is he a rock star? He's like a little, like, he's like in the same elk of Machine Gun Kelly, they collab, so it's like, if you're into that. Yeah, he's like a, he's a way less famous, way less famous Machine Gun Kelly. Yeah. And that's not a rock star. But not everyone can, if you're into that. And people are into that. He's a way less famous machine gun Kelly. And that's not a rock star.

But not everyone can have- They're like punk. Yeah, a punk star. Ask Ben what he thinks of him. I bet you, that's a great question because I feel like Ben doesn't even know him. Hold on. Well then he's not a real punk lover.

Do you know any songs by Mod Sun? Do you know Mod Sun? Say, do you know Mod Sun? Do you know who Mod Son is? Let's see. I'm so curious. He's on a flight, so he either will answer in two seconds or not at all.

He either got wifi or he didn't. Yeah, but Ben always gets wifi. Do you always get wifi? Every single time. I actually pay for that monthly thing. Like go-go? Go-go, yeah. Which when I was on tour, like it was really economical

cause a flight is like $30 for wifi. Of course. Then it's $50 a month. I really need to stop paying for it. I don't travel. Yeah. He's not answering. I don't always pay for the wifi.

Ooh, she's kind of radical. Sometimes I, what did those men call it? I raw dog. You raw dog a flight, yeah. Sometimes, she's kind of radical. Sometimes I, what do those men call it? I raw dog. You raw dog a flight, yeah. Sometimes, but sometimes they do free texting and I'll go for that, or I'll buy like a 30 minute pass just to catch up. But I like unplugging a bit.

You're literally like living on a prairie. Living on a prairie. He didn't answer, okay, so that's a cliffhanger for tomorrow's episode. Halfway there, living on a prairie. Living on a prairie. You'll have to tune into tomorrow's episode to see if Ben Soffer knows who Ma's son is.

And likes him, and if he does, we should take this joke pretty far. Get tickets, yeah. We should pretend like he's coming on the to- Oh, oh my God. He responded. Oh my God. He responded.

He used to date Bella Throne. What about his music? I think he's some random singer. I know of him, but don't know him. Why do you know any of his music? But I'm gonna, I think that's a no. That's a no. Bella Throne. Bella Throne.

I'm cackling. What's left to say? What can I say except Bella Throne? Nothing, you can't say anything except that. You guys, thank you so much for listening to the Toast in the Latter Morning Show. We're reaching over the past five stories you need to know about Monday through Friday

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