The Toast - Jax Taylor Mentions It ALL: Friday, June 9th, 2023

Episode Date: June 9, 2023

We have Jax Taylor on today's episode of The Toast! He is talking Pump Rules, Scandoval, his life after the show and so much more. Jax isn't holding back so don't miss this juicy episode! The Toast with Jackie (@JackieOshry) and Claudia Oshry  (@girlwithnojob)  Merch The Toast Patreon Girl With No Job by Claudia OshrySee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Welcome back to The Toast for a very special Friday episode. I'm sitting down. This is Giving Very Watched Weapons Live one-on-one. It's me and it's Jax. Not the Jax that you're used to. Not Jax Oshry. It's Jax Taylor. Hey, Jax. Hi. How are you doing? I'm so excited that you're here. It looks like New York is on fire. You happen to be here during one of the worst weeks. Canada is on fire and all the smoke. I can't even breathe.

It's crazy outside, right? Everybody's outside right now taking pictures. I know. People are so nuts. They're inh crazy outside, right? Everybody's outside right now taking pictures. I know. People are so nuts. They're inhaling smoke, but they're just taking a picture. Yeah, they're just out there taking pictures in the street right now. It's crazy. Anyway, how are you doing?

I am so happy to be sitting down with you. This is, of course, not your first time on the toast, but this is arguably your most important visit yet. This is very much my most important visit yet. Can you believe? I can't. I've been waiting for this day for a very long time. I have. I have.

I have. I knew there was going to be a day where like, oh man, am I ever going to be able to get on the toast? I'm just a big fan. I don't know how many

male listeners you have. Not a ton. But I am, I hope I'm up on the top of your list of favorites. Oh, a hundred percent. Like you and Brittany

are the best. Brittany couldn't be here, which is devastating. She's working right now. She's got her cup. She launched today. I saw, and I got the bathing suits.

They're so cute. You did? Okay, good. I'll let her know. Yes, I did. I got them yesterday. She's doing a lot of press and stuff's working right now. She's got her cup she launched today. I saw it and I got the bathing suits. They're so cute. You did? Okay, good. I'll let her know. Yes, I did. I got them yesterday. She's doing a lot of press and stuff for that right now. But that's okay because I need to talk to you.

Let's get into it. Can you believe what has happened? I know you can because you know these people. Yes, because I know these people, A. B, I've never been wrong on this show. I've never been wrong on this show. People say, yeah, Jax, you've lied. You've done this. But it always comes out being true. So actually, I've never really lied on the show. I've never been wrong on this show. People say, yeah, Jax, you've lied. You've done this.

But it always comes out being true. So actually, I've never really lied on the show. No, that's true. And I feel like I have liked you on the show for a long time. And you had ups and downs with the fans. Oh, 100%. And since you've been off the show, I feel like it's actually been really good for your Q score.

It's been everything. It's been everything. I needed it. I needed it. It was one of those, I had to find the silver lining in it all, but I really, really needed this. Like it just, you know, we had a baby, obviously the world was kind of upside down with COVID and just kind of the world was changing. And, you know, we weren't quite sure if it was going to be, if we were going to come back to TV or not, but we know we talked about it and my relationship

is very strong and, you know, Brittany and I are very good and my family's very good. So we're definitely, you know, thinking about getting back into it again yeah but I feel like you guys are really thriving outside of reality tv I hate to say it but thanks to the scandal of all thing it's kind of brought I mean I'm going to bring light to it obviously that's bringing everybody kind of it's good for business you know everybody's having talked about that's not on the show anymore but uh it is it's good for business yeah you have a podcast now not good for obviously for certain people but um you know everyone's kind of doing good from this i think yeah maybe him it's also brought the show really back into it's like in its heyday you and your

cable knit sweater stassi slapping kristin like it's really brought the show back to the zeitgeist a lot of new listeners too like there's new brought the show back to the zeitgeist a lot of new listeners too like there's new people kind of getting into it now watching it and binging it and everything and I was like it's so cringy because like I have to watch sometimes episodes to go back into my podcast and talk about it and I'm like I don't like to watch myself on TV I make that known that I don't like to watch myself but I have to drink like a case of beer to watch myself are you getting like a wave because there's all these new people watching the show binging it on Peacock and they're just meeting you for the first time. And you've made

your fair share of mistakes on TV when you were young. And now are people like tweeting you like, Jax, I can't believe you did that. And it was like literally 2010. I know. I know. Literally they're like, you did this, you do this. Well, that's what you do when you're, well, I mean, I was in my early thirties, but I wasn't that young, but you know, I was just having fun on a reality show. I mean, I didn't really take it so seriously. I didn't, I didn't know. I mean, things are obviously a little different now married and everything. And, and, uh, and I feel like I'm in a good place now. So I feel like we are in a good place to come back to TV. I feel like we're strong enough now. We're probably stronger than ever. You know, things are going really good. And, um, yeah,

it's, it's, I can't complain. And people want you back. They do. I'm surprised. The amount of people and the networks and everybody's contacting us. Are you ready to come back? Do you want to come back? Where do you guys stand? How's the baby? How's Brittany? Are you guys? It's every day.

It's like, where are we at? Where are we going? What are we doing? So yeah, it's been great. Let me ask you a few questions before we start. When you guys left Vanderpump Rules, clear it up. Were you Let me ask you a few questions before we start. Cause I'm, when you guys left Vanderpump rules, clear it up. Were you fired or did you leave?

We, it was a, both of us kind of came together and mutually left. We were not fired though. Um, if I think people say, were you fired? Well,

if we were fired, we wouldn't be on watch what happens live. We wouldn't be, you know, talking to Bravo right now. We wouldn't be doing all that. We wouldn't be, I wouldn't be in New York right now for Bravo.

So if they hated us that much, I don't think this would be happening. Right. Right, right. And then in terms of your actual social status within the group, can you run me through who you and Brittany are cool with and who you're not cool with? Wow. Well, last night we hung out with Ariana's new boyfriend. Are they official boyfriend, girlfriend?

I mean, I hope so. I hung out with him last night, and I hung out with Steven from Summer House. Remember Steven? Love. And we had such a good time last night in Sheena, obviously in Brock. We had a really, really good time. I really like this new guy a lot.

I mean, we hit it off instantly. I came in, I knew he was coming. I had a beer ready for him and we just, nice to meet you and yada yada.

But we just had a good time. But as far as everybody else, I hang out with Lala, Kristen, Sheena, Lala, Kristen, Sheena.

Yeah, who am I missing? Tom Schwartz. Well, beforeartz before the scandival what was your status with the toms um i always talk to tom schwartz he's always been my best friend nothing's ever changed with him i just have never talked to tom sandoval ever again the last time i saw him was on the day that everybody saw on the show uh where he went for labor it was a memorial day or labor i think it was labor day labor day we get barbecue at our friend's house that's the last time i saw you. Were you there?

I was there. I was talking to him when he got the text from Ariana saying, my dog passed. I'm sorry, was it her grandmother? It was her grandmother that time. Her grandmother passed away. And he's like, oh, man, I got to get out of here. And he's like, I can't find an Uber. Meanwhile, this is a huge home.

And it's Memorial weekend, and he lives in a cul-de-sac. So Ubers were coming and going all day long. So saying that I can't find an Uber is a huge home, right? And it's Memorial weekend and he lives in a cul-de-sac. So Ubers were coming and going all day long. So, you know, saying that I can't find an Uber is a little bit. On this season when they were saying Jason left, is that you or that's a different Jason? Cause your name technically is Jason. Right, I didn't hear him say that.

Did they say that? Oh, they were saying that you could have left with Jason. Oh, Jason, the drummer, sorry, his drummer. Oh, so it's someone else, okay. Yeah, so that's the drummer. That's the person he could have left with. Yes, because he came with his drummer and I think Raquel showed up. I don't know if she planned that, staggered that or whatever, but she showed up like five minutes

later and Jason was the drummer. That's who he came with and he could have left with her. Yes. Or him. Sorry. So walk me through because when we all first found out about the affair, it seemed like it came out of nowhere. And then we're watching Vanderpump Rules and we see like Lala kind of had a suspicion, Katie, everyone was like a little bit. It wasn't just this total out of the blue. People had had suspicions

because they were at the Abbey and they were being weird. Tell me your experience finding out either about the affair or were you suspicious too? I've called it for years, the far as the cheating goes. Who it was with, I was a little shocked by Raquel. Not shocked, but I was kind of like, okay. I thought it was a couple other people.

In fact, I still believe in my head that it's been a couple other people. But no, when the news broke, actually my friend texted me how I found out. It was my friend Janet's husband texting me, Buddy Jason. He goes, hey, you were right all along. I woke up and I'm like, what are you talking about? He's like, you haven't seen? You haven't looked at social media? I'm like, no. And I'm looking at, you know, Tom's channel cheats. So you found out when the world found out. Yeah. Yeah.

My buddy texted me when I woke up and I was kind of like, no, I'm not shocked. Nothing on this show shocks me because I've called everything on the show that's happened. Yeah. And by the way, the little surprise that you're going to hear the show, I called that too. Yeah. Shocked by it. Your final season was really your last sort of effort to make everybody see in sandoval what you saw like you said that this was not a good person and he was very manipulative and he's good with words and he he's good at words and he knows how to turn things around he likes to say but all the time and he deflects and turns things around and always goes back to old stories and just like he never tried to make you look crazy yeah he can't just

say you know what i effed up i screwed up i made a mistake i'm human he has to go i screwed up but you did this and you did this like just own what you did yeah you're a 40 something year old man you screwed up you made a mistake own it it's a big mistake but just own it my thing with sandoval that i find so confusing is like he's clearly this insane narcissist he's you watching the show especially in the last few seasons, he's never taking accountability for anything. He's throwing everyone under the bus

and now he's done this deeply, morally, unethical, depraved thing. And I think, okay, listen, cheating is obviously very, very bad and every reality show

I feel like has a cheating scandal. It's just the way he's going about it is the scary part. The lack of empathy, the selfishness, the tone deafness. Just now he's going on tour,

changing the words of his songs and making it about his phone falling out. Like he's almost making fun of the situation and laughing and it's a little bit like that's serial killer type shit. A hundred percent. Can you say shit? Yeah. Okay. Sorry. I mean, that's, that's scary. It's one thing if he was like, man, he was down. Like I've been through this before I've gone through this. that's that's scary it's one thing if he was like man he was down like i've been through this before i've gone through this it's not on this level but um i was devastated i fought for for a long time to get my now wife back on the phone on the phone getting myself help making sure everything was right this is on a whole different level this isn't just cheating this is like something far beyond and it's like when you watch them both on tv it's like they have no sadness at all it's like

they grin it's you just want to like you just want to smack her yeah her too It's like, they have no sadness at all. It's like, they grin. It's like, you just want to like, you just want to smack her. Yeah. Her too. It's like, I can, I have another problem with her too.

It's like in the beginning, I thought she was just an idiot. Like I thought she was just completely dumb, but now I'm like, is she calculated? Like, she's almost like, yeah,

this is very calculated. I can't make up my mind. I had Tom on my podcast yesterday, Schwartz, and I'm like, I can't figure her out. I'm like, you're a lot closer than I am with her. I'm like, is she an idiot or is she just very calculated. I can't make up my mind. I had Tom on my podcast yesterday, Schwartz, and I'm like, I can't figure her out. I'm like, you're a lot closer than I am with her.

I'm like, is she an idiot or is she just very calculated? And he's like, you know, I don't know. She's just, she's a scary human being.

But you've known Tom for so long and you at one point were very close with Tom. So like my question is, is what I've really been trying to. I mean, I've got his name tattooed on my arm for God's sakes.

Yeah, I got Tom and Tom. We were best friends. So I got Tom, Tom and I. I got to get rid of that. It's actually really cute. You should get rid of it, but it's also like a moment friends, so I got Tom, Tom, and I. I gotta get rid of that. It's actually really cute. You should get rid of it,

but it's also like a moment in time. I know, Brittany said I shouldn't get rid of it because it was a moment in time, exactly. It's iconic. I know. It's a part of history. It is. But my question is like,

has Tom Sandoval always been this person? Has the show escalated it to another level? Was he always this like crazy narcissist? Or is it something that slowly happened over time? He's just good at what he does. He plays this act and he's like, I do all these great things for everybody. Sometimes people who do nice things aren't nice people. No, they only do it. So it's like a form of currency. Exactly. And that's what he is very good at. He will do that for everybody, but then throw it back in your face and then use that like to like, okay, I can get away with everything because I've done so many nice things. So this has been going on for years and I guess people are just blinded by it,

but I wasn't. I mean, I clearly have called them out many times and I got so much backlash for it, but I mean, I guess I'm grinning a little bit more now these days because people are finally seeing it. You know, it took them long enough, but I've seen all this for so long. So that's why nothing is like, Jax, are you surprised? Did you see the reunion? I was like, nothing. No, there's nothing surprising me. I've called all this. And long so that's why nothing is like Jax are you surprised did you see the reunion I was like nothing no there's nothing surprising me I've called all this and now in hindsight

what are your thoughts on Tom Sandoval paying for a portion of the engagement between Raquel and James Raquel that's really weird it was so weird

now I can't I can't figure that one out no same do you think they were literally like into each other at that point and he wanted to make

it special for her I mean I can say it now yeah they were it came out yesterday oh okay so yeah so they were at it at mexico they were that he and i'm surprised out of all the people he lied to i'm surprised he lied to tom schwartz his business partner that was that would be the one person i would probably confide in and be honest with yet because you have a business together he is your best friend you guys literally i mean tom i feel like schwartz and sometimes kind of maybe in some way, I think kind of his marriage ended a little bit because of this. I mean, a lot has gone down because of Tom Sandoval. And I feel like Schwartz is the only one that's been in his quarter. He's on the ship and it's

sinking and it's burning and he won't get off. He won't get off. And I talked to him yesterday about it. And I think he's finally starting to, you know what, to realize he's got a lot going on in his personal life too. He's got issues his dad i know his brother has cancer his other brother's in rehab you know and tom is the sweetest guy ever he's constantly shelling out money to his family so money is going into his pocket going right out it's going into his out right out so when you start a bar you know it's a very expensive thing everything is not you know just giving you you have to put a lot of your own money and they put a lot of their own money they tom sandoval borrowed from his mom he borrowed like 200 grand from his mom, her

retirement, you know, just borrowing and borrowing and borrowing to start a bar. And meanwhile, Tom Schwartz's personal life is falling apart. Yet Tom Sandoval is going off on these band tours while Schwartz is trying to start this bar. Like this is his thing. You know, if this fails, he doesn't know what he's going to do. He needs help. He needs support.

And he finally cracked. I don't know if you've noticed that episode where he's like, you've been off doing all this band crap and we're trying to get a bar started. You know, I just, I don't, I don't want to say I told you so to Tom. I don't. But I've kind of warned him about this so many times. I go, first of all, don't start a business with your friend. Yeah.

You never start a business with a friend. You don't. Especially a bar. Especially a bar. Sure enough, look what's happened. Now, do you place any blame on Sandoval for the demise of Tom and Katie's marriage? You know what? Tom Schwartz is a big boy. He makes his own decisions. Do I think it weighed a little bit on it? Yes, I do. Of

course. But at the end of the day, Tom's a big boy. He puts on his pants by himself. So I feel like it has a little bit to do with it. I'm trying to be nice about how I say this. But yeah, it has a little bit to do with it. Of course. I'd be an idiot if I said no. And what are your thoughts in general on Tom Schwartz's role in this affair? Like him and his weird relationship with Raquel. I think he was thrown in the middle.

Like yesterday, he was so sad on the thing yesterday. He's like, you know, I just kind of, Tom doesn't like to get involved in too much stuff. He doesn't like drama. He gets really nervous. The guy's constantly popping anxiety pills because he has anxiety because everything is going on in his life. So you add all this on top of it and he doesn't want to know all this stuff that's going on. He'd rather not know, but he does know.

So it's driving him crazy. He knew like some portions of it. You know, I don't think the timelines are matching up. And I think as you guys watch the episode today, you'll see that he full on live to his partner and his best friend, Tom Schwartz, which I'm going to, I'm going to text Tom after this. Like, did you watch yesterday? Did you see, because none of them saw this, none of them knew because you'll see on the episode, Raquel comes back when the episode ends and all of a sudden it says six weeks later, she pops on and then Raquel goes on and says, I've been lying to everybody. This is what's going on.

We've been hooking up way longer than everybody said. Tom has been telling me what to say. We all knew Tom's stand-up ball was coaching her. That's why he blew up on her. Can we have five minutes? Why do you need five minutes? Yeah, that was crazy. Why do you need the five minutes without the cameras?

What can you say that you can't say in front of the cameras? You signed up for the show. You need to talk about your relationship. And that's one thing that bothered me about him on the show is he never talked about his relationship. We all were open books. You bled out. We signed on the dotted line.

Yeah, we have a pretty cool life and it's very fun, but you got to pay for it. You can't have your cake and eat it too. It's not how it works. It's so true. You were like, you went through bad stuff. Bad stuff.

It was like embarrassing stuff. Yes. And you bled out. Yeah. Horrific. I got it from everybody, but that's part of the gig. Yeah.

You don't want to do it, then don't do it. But you can't have your cake and eat it too. Like I just, you just can't. Let's talk about something kind of serious. Yeah. The band.

How serious? Who, what, when, where, why, how? Like. It's Yeah. The band. How serious? Who, what, when, where, why, how? It's a nine-person band. That he pays everyone basically to hang out with. On Venmo. Yeah, on Venmo. Right.

I'm sure his accountant is like pulling his hair out. I don't know if he has an accountant. He's got, leans up the ass on his house. I want to get into the finances too, but really just the band. My first question is like, why?

Tom Sandoval, this is not me being mean. This is just me being like a is like why tom sandoval and like this is not me being mean this is just me being like a human being can i say one thing before i forget it tom sandoval two days ago this is how tone deaf and selfish this person is he was having his band was performing in louisville he texted britney two days ago from today hey if you have any friends in louisville love to see you come let's come come to my band i'll get you free passes i looked at the phone i go is he by the way nobody knows us yet we haven't talked about this are you fucking serious this is two days ago from today did you respond and i said i i go i look at the phone and i give the phone back to britney and i went on my phone i go did you

ever fucking text my wife again how dare you i go how selfish and tone deaf are you you do realize britney is friends with all these girls right what do you think she's gonna do sure tom uh hold on let me write down all the girls let me call them up they'll be right there like okay i'm sorry go back to your story but this just happened and i forgot that's crazy i know but anyway go back to the band and that's what a true narcissist does like doesn't realize the gravity of even sending a text like that it's like not well it's like a serial killer who kills their family and then goes out to the bar and just. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, like, right?

But the band. Okay. And this is just my opinion. Like Tom Sandoval is not a talented singer. Correct. So why would he start a band? I think it's kind of one of his lifelong dreams. Ever since I've known him, I've known Tom for 20 plus years.

We've lived together since we were 19 years old. We started off in Miami together. He wants to be a rock star. That's just who he is. That's just who he wants to be. And great, you should have dreams and goals and whatever. But keep it in your living room. It's really bad.

It's bad. And you know what? I would give it to him if he was good and be like, yeah, he's a shitty person, but the guy can sing. Agreed. Or the guy can act or whatever. Yeah. But he can't.

No, it's so bad. And out of the nine people that are in the band, not one person is saying, does anybody else want to give this a try? I mean, they're all getting paid a thousand.

You're a trumpet player. You want to give this a try? They're getting paid a thousand dollars a day. I would shut up too. Like, it's insane. I don't even know they're getting paid.

Is that what it is, a thousand a day? That's what he was saying why he's so stressed earlier in the season. He was like, literally at this recording studio Venmoing all the people

who had to spend the day with him practicing and like getting ready for tour so the travel yeah, the the outfits the nine-person band hotel the hotels I Mean you're not Metallica dude. You're not you're not journey Okay, like who's paying these people and now I'm getting wait. They're doing free concerts. So who's paying for this? Okay? So that's what I want to talk to you about cuz you actually have extensive knowledge of what? who is paying for this?

Okay. So that's what I want to talk to you about. Cause you actually have extensive knowledge of what, what someone in Tom Sandoval's position is making from the show, right? You were on the show for a very long time and I'm sure towards the end, you were making a lot per episode. Right. I won't make you say,

but I am curious. Um, so you know how much money he probably has, you know, he, right. But he spends a lot. So that's,

that's between the house, the house and the bar and the cars, the brand new Mercedes SUV. Right. He overspends. How much trouble is he in? He's in a lot of trouble. Yeah.

And financially. But thank God. I mean, this is one of the pluses about, I guess, this is what I don't know. I know they're not married. But in California, there is a common law situation. Community property. Right. And I don't know if the house is in both of their

names. I believe it is. Is it in both their names? I'm not sure. I know they have a lawyer, a real estate lawyer taking care of this. It's that bad where they have to get a lawyer involved. Cause he won't leave the house. Yeah. Which is weird to me. It's just disgusting. I yelled at me when this happened to me. He's like, get out of your house. What are you still doing there? You're still living in yours. Oh my God. I forgot about that. Everything he's yelled at me about every single thing he's yelled at me about, every single thing he's yelled at me about or made me feel like shit about, he has done. You're so right. He has done. That's so crazy. Today's episode is brought to you by State Farm. The State Farm personal price

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I know, I think Ariana's going to be okay. I think she's going to be okay. Well, she's also raking it in right now. Yes. She's doing the Bloomingdale's. She has these commercials for Bic. She's a star. I heard she's going on Dancing with the Stars.

Yeah. She's going to be fine. Oh, yeah. She's, yeah. And I hate to use the word thriving because everybody uses that word. Yeah. But she really is. It's a definition of thriving.

And I tell you what, her and I's relationship has never been an amazing relationship. But ever since this happened, ever since the last day of the reunion, I met her at a bar. When they got cut, we all met at the bar. And she just came up to me. I didn't say anything. Just gave me a big hug. I feel like she's got so much weight lifted off. She is a different human being.

She was so angry all the time. She was depressed all the time. She never came out. Like, I don't know what it was from. I mean, well, now I do. She was living with a monster. She was living with a monster

and you see her now and yes, she's doing all these great things, but I know her better than that as a person. She just seems like a normal girl again. Lighter.

Just lighter. Just like, she's laughing. Ariana never and I laugh together. No. And I love that you guys are getting closer. It's literally the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Right. And it's just like, I knew she was there. I knew she, I knew it was there. I never understood why she was always so negative and I didn't like it. I always had to walk on eggshells because I was like, God, she doesn't like me. She doesn't like me. Why? What did I do now? Is it because I'm just too much of a guy's guy? She doesn't like that. But now she's just like, I don't know. She's just like a completely different person. I talked to her brother every

day. I'm really good friends with Jeremy. And I'm like, your sister's just so like an awesome now. He's like, I know she's got rid of that deadbeat. Dead weight. Yeah. Literally. I mean, as awful as this is, I'm happy for her. I'm happy for her. She needed this. As mentally, she needed this. Yeah. That's kind of what I was going to say. Like, it's a terrible thing that happened, but I think a lot of good has come out of it.

One, for Ariana, I think you're 100% right. You can tell on social media. There's just like an air to her. It's much lighter. But also, it's brought the show back to the forefront of the culture. People are obsessed with it. You know, now Kristen and you and Brittany and Stassi like people who weren't on the show are I think a lot of people are it's creating like a

demand for you guys to be back on Bravo everyone's podcasts are killing it like it's it's really weirdly been good for everyone except for Tom and Raquel obviously yeah um I just had this I had this conversation with Sheena Brock last night I I'm like, where is Raquel at the current moment? Like where? Oh, and another thing. I asked Tom yesterday on my podcast, are Raquel and Tom dating? Because if they're not together, this was all for. For what? And he's like, I don't think so.

I don't think so. I'm like, so this was just all for. For nothing. For nothing. Just to like take a big dump on everything and leave. I mean, at least be together the only way this would even

remotely be half okay was if they lived happily ever after had a million kids and were in love for the rest of time which is not

gonna happen that's so crazy like you know Tom is just too like he couldn't control Ariana anymore she's had enough she got older

he found Raquel he can control her she's very easily manipulated and you can just pretty much tell her whatever and she'll do it but I don't know as of today I don't know where she is she claims that she's getting help but is she really is she in a Marriott hotel yeah I don't I don't know I imagine she is getting help because you know aside from what's actually going on you know having the weight of the world and every year she's a villain not on a reality

show she's the villain of America like How do you bounce back from that? I don't know. I think her best chance would to really paint herself as a victim of Tom. She's an incredibly vulnerable young woman. She's very impressionable. He's a much older man who's a more principled character on the show and she wanted more.

It is like an imbalance of power. And I think that if she structured it as like her just totally being influenced and swept away and how she was a victim in all this too, it's a stretch, but it's, I don't know.

He can't come back from this. I don't know where they go from here because I know on the show, none of them wants to, none of them are going to film with him. That was my next question. As a show, if everybody says,

we're not filming with Britney, you know, for example, what does that mean? Does that mean Brittany can't be on the show? I don't know. I don't think we've ever had a situation like this where literally people will walk off set

if they have to film with her. So I feel like there, is there a world where they have a show and then have his own thing going on? Or, I mean, I don't know. The only person I can see actually filming with him is Tom Schwartz because they have a business together and he'll probably get suckered into it.

You know, I was asked if I would film with him and I was like, you know, I couldn't do that. Oh my God, I would absolutely love for you. You know how many people are saying, I'd love for you to sit in a room with Tom Schwartz or Tom Sandoval right now and have a talk. How vindicated do you feel? I feel a little bit. I mean, just because I've been saying this for so long. It's not like an aha, but I've been just saying this

because I'm kind of like, am I taking crazy pills? Right. I felt like I was taking crazy pills for so long. And like I said, I'm normally 99.9% right on this show as far as predictions. What were you wrong about? I don't know. Let me know if you find something I was wrong about because I haven't yet to find anything

that I've been wrong about on the show. So we know about Miami Girl. We know about Raquel. He finally came clean with that. Which was justice for Kristen Doty. 10 years later. Yeah. Yeah.

Justice for Kristen. Who? What else? What's up with the Billy Lee? Okay. So I, my, what I think, I think they have hooked up. Yeah. I think so.

Because they were also recently just spotted together. They are. She's coming out of his house in the morning. Right. And she's also looking for the limelight. Yeah, yeah. She wants a little bit of. You have to understand that.

Yeah, yeah. And yeah, but I mean, she's leaving the house early. She's walking Ariana's dog. So disrespectful. So I don't know if she's allowing this or if he's just doing dog. So disrespectful. So I don't know if she's allowing this or if he's just doing this just to be like,

I don't give a fuck. Mm-hmm. You know, there's so many things that are creeping in my head. When he was talking about being in love, he's like,

I get her lattes every morning. It used to be like the little stuff. I change the batteries and the remote. I'm the one that does all this. when you bought me paper towels? Like,

just stuff like that. Like, dude, do you know what love, you are an idiot you are just you don't have no idea what love is well you're close i mean you do here yourself he loves himself a lot more than anything a lot he loves a mirror he does love a good mirror you're close to schwartz and i'm really curious what the actual impact on the bar has been for this whole thing i know in the beginning people were like boycotting in people like went and vandalized the bathrooms, but now it's really is like the center of this worldwide scandal. And I have to think like, maybe it's good for business. Well, what's going on?

I think Tom, from what I asked him yesterday, he says it has ups and downs. It's going through its, its peaks and valleys, but you have to understand when you're saying all this to Tom Sandoval, you're not, he doesn't see any of this. You're hurting the employees. You're hurting the cooks. You're hurting the managers. People have a job. That's their job. And I, you have to, as a business owner, I understand that. I get that. Um, cause when you're vandalizing and you're boycotting it, yeah, you, you're, you know, we get it. You're upset at the, at the restaurant, but you're hurting a lot of people that are putting their hard work into it. Um, I was there, I've been there three or four times and the last time I was there, it wasn't that busy. Uh, but I just think I, maybe I was

there on an off night. I don't know. It was 10 o'clock on a Thursday, but that, you know, it wasn't really, but you know, I, for Tom Schwartz's sake, I hope it bounces back. Rumor again, this is just a rumor. I heard that they are trying to buy Tom Schwartz or Tom Sandoval out the managers do not like him the owners do not like him the employees do not like him nobody wants to work for him they're all only there because of Tom Schwartz of course and obviously Tom Schwartz is like please please you know and he's trying to make it work and he's trying to make money yeah and in fact they offered me if I was interested in taking over could you imagine well okay I'm so glad you brought that up because I have two things to say. One, just really quick.

What do you think of the name Shorts and Sandys? I don't think you should ever use people's names in bars. It's literally the worst name. Two, I remember when Jackie and I were watching Lisa at someone's engagement party, basically pull the toms over. I think it was actually your engagement party, which was even more fucking rude. Pull the two toms over and be like, what do you say we all go into business together? And Jackie and I remember when we were recapping,

we were like, well, that's weird. Like, yeah, they have the same name. Right. But it's obviously about the show. Tom Schwartz has never worked at any of the restaurants except the one time he got behind the bar and had a panic attack. And he's actually,

he wasn't really like a main character at first. It was almost at last. Right. And we were like, well, this just feels like a slap in the face to Jack's. Like if this bar is going to be representative of this show and this franchise and the two guys, the two guys include Jax. And I think simply your name not being Tom is what put you out of the running, which is so dumb.

Does it bother you? Did it bother you? And does it now? That Lisa didn't include you? I think at the time with the TomTom thing, I was a little like, mean like what am I chopped liver what have I done you know I worked for you I managed your bar I've waited at your bar I've done everything at your bar I've kind of been a good employee I've I've kind of she's the only one that she would come to me when she had issues on housewives like how do you deal with this when I was going through hell on seasons like well pretty

much the whole time uh she would pull me aside like how do you deal with this we would have one-on-one talks where lisa would break down to me and be like how do you get through this the women are being like this we would have one-on-one talks all the time so yeah i was a little offended by it but now looking back i wouldn't owning a bar is like the hardest it's the hardest thing to do especially if you're married yeah it's like your marriage will never last a first a band or a bar nope no no marriage will last that so you would not go into business or you would not saying that but how funny would it be if i did shorts and jacksies or jacks and james see episode one james james and jacks yeah what if we had our own what is something like that you know him and i are throwing a party on the 13th in

la okay wait what is your current relationship status with james kennedy love him i think he's hilarious i think he's hilarious this season do you think he's the number one guy in this group this season oh yeah 100 he's the best yeah yeah i've talked to him all the time now and i think he's great and he's just he's just he's funny he's funny he says a lot of funny things and he says some shit yeah he does like normal normal people couldn't get away with some of the stuff he says they'd be like do what he's saying but it just with he says it it's just you just kind, normal people couldn't get away with some of the stuff he says. They'd be like, do what he's saying. But it just, with him, he says it, it's just, you just kind of have to laugh.

I agree. I think it's the accent or something. Cause he says some like such fucked up shit, but like there's something so endearing about it. I know. It's so weird. I like it. I do. I'm so glad that you two are friends.

I think that's hilarious. So we were, we were kind of just, I was telling him about it. I'm like, listen, I was offered, I don't know if it was a strong offer or not. I was at the bar late at night and like, listen, I was offered, I don't know if it was a strong offer or not. I was at the bar late at night and one of the managers or owners, manager slash owner of Schwartz and Sandy's like, hey, we want to get rid of Tom Sandoval. We want to find another buyer. Would you be interested? And I just, I've been drinking and I was like, oh, I don't know.

I don't think so. I don't think whatever. I couldn't do that to Tom Schwartz either. I just don't, it's just a lot of work and a lot of pressure, a bar. You know what I'm saying? And you're married to that. I have a child and I love my marriage right now. And I just, I think owning a bar, I guess if I was involved with a bar where I didn't have to be too involved,

I would do that. Yeah. Like there's something where I can just like tap in and tap out, but you know, Schwartz is there seven days a week. He's there every day. And Sandoval's never there. He's never there. I'm glad you brought up Lisa because I'm curious what your thoughts are on Lisa in terms of like what, first of all, what's your relationship with her? Um, I saw her at Tom Tom about two months ago. She's like, Hey, how are you? And I don't know. I just think she's, I don't want to say too many negative things about Lisa. I just, I just, I don't know. I liked the way Lala gave it to her on the show Lala's finally kind of stepping up everybody seems to be afraid of her for what you own a restaurant you're a woman who owns

restaurants in West Hollywood so for for a while why she was this authoritative figure she was your boss and now she's not nobody works at the restaurant really anymore you have to understand too people are like you should be so grateful grateful for Lisa for getting us the show we have to keep it going she's not like people say well she owns the show she doesn't own the show. We have to keep it going. Yeah. She's not a, like people say, well, she owns the show. She doesn't own the show. She is a producer. Yeah. Okay.

So it's really upsetting when people are like, oh my gosh, you should be so grateful she could let you go. No, that's not how it works. Yeah. She got us the audition

or she got us the, you know, the tease for the show, the sizzle reel, whatever. She got us in the door. We have to make it work. You guys ran with it.

Her showing up once every six episodes to hand out fake paychecks. Yeah. Come on. And then, and then watching the, um, the reunion, her chiming in, she's not even there. These are adults. When we were younger and we were 20 years old, it made a little more sense because she was kind of a mother figure and she was all, we are, and she was the boss. None of us work at the restaurant. None of us worked at the restaurant for a very, very long time. Right. People say, well, don't you, Bart? No. None of us have for a very long time.

It's a television show. What does the future look like for her role? That's a great question. She feels very misplaced now. And you're right. She sees a paycheck. Never would anybody snap at her at a reunion in the past. Like nobody.

And James was giving it back to her. Lala was giving it back to her. Yeah, because she was sticking up for Tom Sandoval. Do I think she has to be neutral? Yes and no. It is her business partner. think she has to be neutral? Yes and no. It is her business partner. So she has to be like, she has to see both sides. She can't just be everybody against Tom Sandoval.

I get that. I get she was trying to kind of have. It made the conversation flow better because everybody was just, every time he would speak, everybody would scream. And it's like, well, I actually want to hear what this insane person has to say. So her actually kind of being a referee, I didn't mind. I didn't think she was really taking his side. I thought she was just like, let him bury himself.

Like, let him speak. But I don't really know what her point, what's the point of Lisa on the show anymore? Just to be there, sit next to Andy. I think she's a prop at this point. And I don't mean that in a negative way, but let's be honest, it wouldn't change the difference if she wasn't there.

She's not bringing anything to the show anymore. It's not, it was in the beginning. Yes, she was very involved. But now, like I said, we're all a lot older. None of us have been at the restaurant anymore. Yes, this is her show. She brought the show. But I really don't see a reason for her to be at the reunion.

I really don't. I mean, just to sit next to Andy and want a piece of gum. I mean, I don't really know. Do they just smirk back and forth? How's your restaurant doing? Like, I don't really know if she really needs to be there. Yeah. This has just been the craziest.

Like, when I put on my Instagram that you were coming on the show, we got so many questions for you. So I hope you'll answer some of our fan questions. Okay. They're not crazy. The number one question was, like, returning to Vanderpump. I got to say, we have been talking. We're trying to figure out what makes sense for my family.

Obviously, we've been off for a couple years, figure it out what makes sense for my family. Obviously, we've been off for a couple of years, so we want it to make sense for us. We are absolutely, you know, excited about the thought of going back. But, you know,

we have to wait out and see if it makes sense for us. So we are definitely open to it right now. But we'll see what happens. Yeah. But it's been really good for you not to be.

It has been really good for me not to be. But, you know, I also miss it a little bit. Well, that was actually a question. But the thing is too, if you understand, nothing's changed since we have the show. When they're filming, everybody ends up back at my house. My house is the center, is the middle of it.

They all come back to my house and they all vent and we all hang out at my house. Nothing has changed. If anything, the show's gotten less real because now you're bringing in people that aren't actually friends. Yeah. Well, that was actually my first question

that I forgot to ask you is like, this is a show that really was built on the backs of a lot of people, you being one of them. You had many embarrassing moments. You were very honest. You talked about stuff with your family. You lost your dad while you were on the show. You were so committed to making the show good.

And you leave and now is this scandal that's taken over the entire world. Is there any part of you that has FOMO or like a little bit of resentment? You're like, well, this is like a show that like, even you said at the end, you were like, I started this show when you said that to Lisa,

like, is there a part of you that has FOMO from like this big scandal? I gotta be honest with you. And yeah, maybe last season, but I don't know if I want to be part of this panel right now. It a those girls are out for blood yeah they're out for blood and i'm not the wittiest person in the world i'm kind of just a kind of a deer in headlights i feel like i kind of like a little bit of a tom schwartz in that thing where i kind of just be like please don't

come to me please don't ask a question please don't ask a question yeah because they're so calculated these girls were ready for this and so i think I'm doing obviously we're doing okay everything's fun right now and the way this is playing out because now I get to be I get to like the peacock show I did I get to watch it

and give my opinion without getting any that was actually one of the questions we got for you people loved that rewatch thing that you and Brittany did but we only got like three episodes of that

they only bought three episodes I don't know if it was on their budget I don't know if this is a trial thing I'm always wondering why did we only do those three episodes and not the three at the end

it would have been a lot more fun I know they were trying to do more I don't know if it is a trial thing. I'm almost wondering like, why did we only do those three episodes and not the three at the end? It would have been a lot more fun. I know they were trying to do more. I don't know if it was a time thing or a budget thing, but no, they all loved it. You know, they were trying to get more. I don't know what the, what the deal was, but we were definitely open to do more. We loved it. We had so much fun. Literally just go walk downstairs, sit on our couch, watch the show. And I get to give my opinion without getting any feedback. It was like, awesome. I can say whatever I want and no one's going to yell at me back. Yeah. It was like, awesome. I can say whatever I want and no one's going to yell at me back. Yeah. It was amazing.

Okay, another question I have for you is Kristen Doty has been doing a couple podcasts and it seems like she's really cool with everyone except for James. And she kind of alludes to this like thing about James that's going to come out. Like he has skeletons in his closet. Do you have any idea what that is? I don't think so.

I mean, you know, Kristen's a scary person to piss off. She really is because she's kind of like a MacGyver and she will dive deep. Miami girl. You know, Miami girl. I'm friends with all of her boyfriends and her and I still bump heads because she's kind of like, you can't hang out with my ex-boyfriends. I'm like, then I can't hang out with anybody in LA because you've dated literally everybody in LA.

I know all your five boyfriends except for Tom Sandoval. I'm friends with all of them. I'm not, I'm a 43 year old man. If I'm friends with a guy, I'm not going to be like, well, I can't talk to you anymore because you're not dating that girl. I'm not doing that. And we're not, Kristen, by the way, we're not sitting around talking about you. Like her ex-boyfriend, Alex, she hates the fact that I'm really good friends with him. He's one of my best friends. Did you meet him through Kristen? And I, no, I met him before Kristen through Tom Schwartz and she started dating him. Now she's like, you can't

hang out with him. You can't come anymore. And like, and then she calls, she calls me like she was on with her new boyfriend. She was driving to Colorado with her new boyfriend, Luke. And she's calling me, why are you hanging out with Alex? Like, I'm trying to think like poor Luke is sitting in his car. Like, why are you so mad that I am hanging out with your ex-boyfriend who's moved on, who has a new girlfriend? We have a great relationship. And Kristen, we don't talk about you. You are not the topic of conversation. I. And Kristen, we don't talk about you. Yeah. You are not the topic of conversation.

Yeah. I, you know, I don't go around like why you hang out with my ex-girlfriend. Who cares? Move on. So you don't know what this alleged, you know, skeleton. I don't know what this is.

I don't know if Kristen's just doing her homework right now. Right. If she's digging deep. You know what I'm saying? If she's maybe going through the archives. I don't know what she's doing. I don't know what she has planned.

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We got so many questions about your marriage and just your family and, you know, following on social media. It really appears like you guys are in such a good place. What do you attribute that to? Maybe just the break of the show had a lot to do with it. Yeah. It was doing good. You know, I think because Brittany's never been around, you know, without the show, you know, so I think that helped a little bit. We're just, we're best friends, you know.

Do we argue a lot? Absolutely. Because we live together, we work together, we play together, sleep together, and we do everything together. Fighting is a normal thing. It's a normal thing. We bicker all the time.

But within five minutes, we're best friends again. Like we don't let it bother us. We don't go to bed angry. We're going to bicker. It's what it is. But we're just best friends. We like everything the same. We like just to sit around and watch movies together.

We love playing with our son. Everything we like is the same except for music. Other than that, we pretty much like everything the same. We like just to sit around and watch movies together. We love playing with our son. Everything we like is the same except for music. Other than that, we pretty much like everything the same. What kind of music does Brittany like? I like the older stuff. She likes everything new, obviously.

Does she like country? Yeah. Country. Yeah, you know, she's a Kentucky girl, right? Yeah, yeah. I don't mind the country, but she likes all the rap.

Every person that's named with a lil, she likes them. I don't understand that. I'm a journey. You're so journey. Hall and Oates. You're so Hall and Oates. Dave Matthews Band. That's so you, Jack. It's just my old, I'm a little bit know you're so journey hollow notes you know Dave Matthews band that's so you just smile that's I'm a little bit old you gotta remember I'm 10 years older than her so

oh right you know she likes all the new stuff I just I can't handle any of that um tell me the last besides for the text message that you just told us about the last time you spoke to Sandoval was at the holiday party was at that Memorial Day party oh right we ran into them and you guys were like not on speaking terms. No, I mean, we, we weren't mad at each other.

I ran in. And of course, as soon as I say, Hey, hi, how are you doing? He doesn't ask anything about my son. Never met my son.

Wow. Really? Tom goes right into it while I'm in the band. And this, like I didn't say, Hey man, how you doing? How's your kid doing?

How's your family? That's what I do. When you meet somebody that you haven't seen, what is the first things you say? How's your mom and dad? How's your, how's your husband? How's your wife? How's health? Everything. Okay. How's life? Then when you meet somebody that you haven't seen. What is the first things you say? How's your mom and dad? How's your, how's your husband? How's your wife?

How's health? Everything. Okay. How's life? Then you can get into that. He's like, not even that. I haven't seen the guy in two years.

Yeah. My band is doing this. Oh yeah. I had a kid. Right. You know, he's never met Cruz. No,

that's so crazy. No, it's just like, I don't care, but it's just like, you're just not like grow up, man. Grow up.

He's not like a real person. You're going backwards in life. You have this Peter Pan syndrome where you just don't want to grow up. Are there times in the last, you know, you said 20 years of your friendship with Tom Sandoval, where you covered for him cheating? No, I think I outed him on every time. Yeah, that's so you.

I think I did out him on every time. I think once it came out, no, because he cheated on every girlfriend he's had. Yeah. So, yeah. No, you weren't out here. I was, I mean,

he cheated on Kristen, well, with me, but yeah, so, and he, yeah, yeah, no, I've always outed him. Do you regret

not going to Stassi's wedding? Yes. I wish I could have gone and it sucks that it's still at this point. I think it's hopefully going to get better. I hope that we can become friends.

But it was just such a, it wasn't in the cards. Like everything was going wrong. We didn't get Cruz's passport. So that's the law. You were planning on going and then things happened. We were going to plan on going and then things were happening. And then, you know, it was right in the middle of COVID. And I heard people were getting stuck in Italy.

And like you couldn't get back, you know. And I'm like, I can't afford to be stuck there. I have a mortgage. I have money to pay. What if I get stuck over there? Not only that, Cruz's passport didn't come. So I was get back you know and I'm like I can't afford to be stuck there I have a mortgage I have money to pay what if I get stuck over there not only that Cruz's passport didn't come so I was like you know what how about I stay with the baby you go with your mom that way somebody from our family is representing the wedding then her mom her best friend's husband died so it was just kind of like I feel like she's not in our cards it wasn't in our cards to go and I'm like Stassi was what upset that you just didn't give enough notice? Yeah, I didn't give enough notice, but we felt bad.

So I paid, I gave her $500 to cover the food and whatever. Because I understand it's a wedding. It's expensive. I think she sent it back though, but I just, it sucks. It sucks that we have to be at this point because of a wedding. We were at her first one, you know, and Brittany loaned her her shoes and everything. It wasn't a malicious thing. Right. You know, it couldn't work out and i feel bad i wish tomorrow that we could be friends like yeah i feel awful i've said i'm sorry a million times i don't know what else to do

both you and britney are not speaking to her no no we haven't no since the wedding debacle oh that's sad yeah i know and i i i'm hoping one of these days we cross paths i actually we did no that's not true because aren't crews in hartford similar ages, that's not true. Because aren't Cruz and Hartford similar ages? Yes, that's not true. We did run into them. They did talk at Lala's Ocean's birthday party. Oh, nice. Ocean's birthday party.

They ran and they gave each other a hug. Hi, how are you doing? And then Brittany has talked to Katie a couple times too. Okay. And Katie, she bowed out of our relationship just because Stassi did. Katie kind of just followed suit. Yeah. Oh, that's interesting.

There is such a demand for Mamaw's beer cheese. I know, but it's just, it's so hard to do with food. There's so many laws and it's expensive. Yeah, we know.

Everything's very, very expensive, you know? And it's, you know, we tried a couple things. We got the merch coming out. We do have a Mamaw's beer cheese hoodie coming out. I love that.

On the way here, I just finalized it. But we're going to try and do something. She kills it in Kentucky. Like she sells out before it's even in Kentucky. But I just to figure out how to do it in LA. The packaging, refrigeration. And the way you produce it.

You have, there's certain laws that you have to have. Certain parts of the kitchen and all that. I would love to. I would love to. It would. But no hard plans right now. No hard plans. And maybe we'll entertain it in the future.

I mean, I want to because the stuff is so good. And she, like I said, she makes it in her kitchen every day. She's in the kitchen right now making it. It's so cute. She's just pumping it out. But she sells it to everybody, all the festivals. Yeah. And she does really well.

When, if and when, will you let Cruz watch Vanderpump Rules? I don't really know if I'm going to have a choice. I mean. It's true. Or he might just not be interested. He's already got more technical skills than I do. Oh mean, it's true. He's already got more, uh, um,

technical skills than I do. He's really smart on that iPad. So I'm sure he's going to watch it one of these days and I'm sure he's going to have lots of questions and he's going to be sure that that's my douchebag dad. And you know, it is what it is. Maybe he won't be interested at all. He'll be like, yeah,

sure. My parents were on the show. So embarrassing. I mean, maybe not. I don't know. I mean, who knows?

We, with our group, who knows? Do you love being a dad? I love it. I love it more than I ever thought. And I just, maybe not. I don't know. I mean, who knows? With our group, who knows? Do you love being a dad? I love it. I love it more than I ever thought. And I just said this morning, I'm like, my heart is, I love being here. We're back and doing things again and having fun and I miss it and all that. But my heart hurts because I miss my son so much.

I love him so much. He's like the best thing in the entire world. And I just, I just, I miss him when he's next to me and it makes me tear up because I just, I love him. I didn't know you could love something so much. Of course I love my wife very much too, but your son is just like, I just want to protect him. And I'm constantly on the phone with my mother-in-law cause she's the only one watching

them. Did he have his cookies at two o'clock? Did he get his blanket? It's three 15. Did he, did he, you know, how many times is he blinking? Like, you know, like I just, I'm a helicopter dad. That's so funny. Helicopter father. I'm like, I have to know what he's doing at all time, where he's at. Did he get his haircut? Is he eating? is he blinking like you know like i just i'm a helicopter dad that's so funny helicopter father

i'm like i have to know what he's doing at all time where he's at did he get his haircut is he eating did he brush his teeth is he playing with his toy it's three o'clock is he watching miss rachel miss rachel's like my other wife miss rachel is a queen she's a toaster she is yeah i love her please tell her if you ever talk to her i've dm'd her a few times love her i will i will she is literally like my other wife. No, she's amazing. She has taught Cruz so much more than I can even do. She's magic.

She's magic. Magic. We love her. I love that, by the way. I feel like you could totally tell on social media, and it wouldn't have been something I think a lot of people would have guessed about you, but how you so fell into fatherhood head first. I mean, I always knew I'd be a good dad, but I didn't know.

Like I'm just, I'm already ready for the next one. Really? Yeah, yeah. We have a couple of things going on this summer, but I think the plan, and this is the plan, is to start in August, to start trying, quote unquote try.

Well, it's really, it's a beautiful thing to watch. I'm really happy for you. Thank you. Okay, a few more from the fans. There's this conversation being had on the Summer House reunion now where a lot of the girls are accusing Lindsay of just being like kind of a misery to work

with treating production like really rude and the crew. Did you guys ever have issues like that where anybody you know they got famous and started to act and was rude and condescending and difficult to work with when it came to production? We shut that down right away. I never ever ever allowed anybody to be rude to production because these people are the ones that work their asses off. They're there night and day.

They don't get sleep and they are the ones doing their job. And if you go off on them, then you can get off the set. We don't allow that on our show. Now that's when I was on, I don't know what's been going on the last two years. I know production has changed a lot. When I left, they got new showrunners and knew this and knew that. But, uh, you know, I, did I get angry at him a couple of times? Yes, of course. But they know how to, they know how to work each one of us. They know how to pull us aside and what to say and how to cool us down. And, um, they're really good at it, but you know, they're all good people. I'm still in contact with pretty much all of them. Uh, we talk all the time, especially a lot more now, cause they're all kind

of not wanting to know what Brittany and I are going to do. Um, and they're all kind of like, what's, what are they going to do? You know, especially Jeremiah, who's the head show runner right now. And he's kind of like, what's Jackson Brittany going to do? So everything's just being talked. But for the most part, or for when I was on the show, no, no, no. We do not allow you to talk negatively to producers, showrunners. No. This is their job. You're lucky to be where you are.

People would give the right arm to be on television. I agree. This was an interesting question. Did Raquel ever try to make a move on you? No. I never liked her. She's not my type. Not my type. I don't like... Nothing against... She, I never liked her. She's not my type. And is there any...

Nothing against... She's a beautiful woman, but that's not my type. Okay. And I'm sure you've heard about the rumor that she also was fucking around on Brock and Sheena. I don't believe that. You don't believe it? I think that was just... I think rumors were just flying around like crazy on that.

And normally I'd be like, well, maybe, but no. No, Brock and Sheena are solid. I love them them by the way he's had such like for me a 180 I think he's such a good dad such a good dad he's so driven

he's like good at business and we got a lot of things that him and I are working on we're gonna be doing a tour pretty soon and he's been working on it it's just he's such a great great guy

and he's a good father he's just a good man he's just so happy doesn't really like to have any negative you know around him wants to work out I like that

he's just a guy's guy. That's why I like that. Have you been to the sandwich shop yet? I have not. Do you want to go? I am definitely going to go. I texted Ariana because I saw some sandwiches on TikTok that I really like. I'm like, can you please incorporate these into your lunch menu?

And she laughed. So I'm definitely going to go. Do you know the status of the opening? I'm sure it's... I mean, they said it should be right now. Right now. So they said beginning June, end of May. That's where we are right now. said it should be right now. Right now. So they said beginning June, end of May. That's where we are right now.

Right. So it should be right now. And I know from what I've heard, they raised a lot of money. Did they? I want to say around $250,000 because our good friend Janet. Off of Scandival? Yeah, off the merch. Because our friend Janet, who's been on the show many times, she does their merch.

She's in charge of running it all. And she said, yeah, they've made about $260,000. Yeah, they said on the reunion they had made like north of 200,000. Yeah, which is great. I mean, that's enough to get the ball rolling. For sure. It is not cheap to start a sandwich shop or any kind of business, especially on the street that they're on.

I know, Sunset. No, they're right on Santa Monica Boulevard and Robertson. That's right by, so Sir's right here. Christian Louboutin's over here. I mean, you're by Maxfield's. Yeah. And then you're going to have a sandwich shop. So the rent can't be cheap. And so you got to push a lot of sandwiches. So I don't, I, of course I wish the best for him and I hope it kills it and I hope it puts

shorts and sandies crazy. I hope it does really well. Do you have a regret from any of your time on? Of course I regret the time I was unfaithful to my wife. Yeah. That's the one thing I would take back. Yeah, of course. Okay, that's a good answer. I made a mistake, you know, and I regret it to this day. You know, no justification to what I did, but I worked my ass off to get my wife back,

and she's, you know, is the most amazing woman on the planet, but like I said, I worked and worked and worked and worked, and she didn't just say take me back. No. I had to prove. It took me a couple years.

To her family. Like, I had to do a lot of work, but, you know, I messed up. I made a mistake on my own. It wasn't, had nothing to do with, with the person or whatever. I didn't like myself at the time. I was going through a diva moment myself. I just going through it.

I was depressed. I lost, lost my dad. There was just a lot going on, you know, with my life, not justifying it all, but this is just what you do when you start to spiral out of control, you just latch onto anything. And like I said, it had nothing to do with the other person or who it was. I, I would have, you know, hooked up with a hole in the wall if it was there, it looked at me the right way. It had nothing to do with that. It was just, I hated who I was. And I love that my wife came to me and she's like, listen, I mean, she kind of knew, she saw it in me that I, that I wasn't doing this maliciously.

She saw that I was so hurt and I was going through depression. Like I was locking myself in my man cave and just not coming out. Like I was just doing everything in my power just to hurt myself because I just did not like who I was as a human being. And you know, she introduced me to, I was going to do some other hard things to myself, to be honest with you. And I was just like, I was going to lock myself in a room and I don't know what I was going to do. But then she introduced me to weed, cannabis at the time. This was years ago. And thank God for that. That saved my marriage. It saved my, I don't have to take pills to be anxiety. But yeah, it really helped. And she stuck by me and she rode with me through all the ups and downs and she was there and she's just an amazing person. I will say, having been at your wedding, which was so beautiful, it really was, you know,

you see someone's whole relationship play out on TV, but to like be in the presence, which was so beautiful, it really was, you know, you see someone's whole relationship play out on TV, but to, like, be in the presence, it was so, it really was so beautiful. And you guys really, you had come such a long way, and you still are really just headed in the right direction. Right, right. And it was so beautiful. And it, like, really, everyone was like,

what was the wedding like? I'm like, it was, like, full of love. It was really beautiful. It was a lot of, you know, I want it to be bigger and better than that just because we came so far from where we were and i wanted to just celebrate the fact that we are and honor that and show her family how much i care and love her and i wanted her to have everything that she wanted for this wedding there was nothing that i said no to right so it was whatever she wanted she got and it was the

wedding of her dreams did it cost a lot of money absolutely how much um i think we paid we got a lot for for free of course because it was televised still paid about a buck 60 okay which is a lot by the way it looked like a more expensive wedding like well we got like a million a lot of like we didn't like i think the cakes we got yeah flowers stuff like that because people wanted to be on the show i think i had to pay for like the whole i paid for everybody's hotel room because I want everyone to stay in the castle

that was in the groom the wedding party things like that was expensive that's what kind of drove it up but I mean we had like Wagyu steaks

we had I mean I got I had Hooters come in for free Taco Bell that was the best part you know I just I wanted it to be fun and I wanted to keep

a little Kentucky a little southern girl you know a little country girl we wanted to eat wings and tacos at night and we just wanted to have fun we didn't want little Southern girl, you know, a little country girl. We wanted to eat wings and tacos at night. We just wanted to have fun. We didn't want to make it too, you know. Serious.

Serious. We wanted everyone just to have a good time. I will say, having you back in the Bravo universe, I watched you guys on Watched Robbins Live. It's so great. And I'm so happy that you guys are doing so well. And I really hope you come back to the show in whatever format you guys are comfortable with. I'm so glad you came on the toast.

Thank you so much for being so honest. Oh, thank you so much for having me. And make sure to keep up with Jax and Brittany on social. I know you're are comfortable with. I'm so glad you came on the toast. Thank you so much for being so honest. Oh, thank you so much for having me. And make sure to keep up with Jackson Brittany on social. I know you're on Cameo. Our podcast, When Reality Hits. Are you loving being a podcaster? I love it. You know, my favorite part is doing the commercials.

Oh, well, of course, because I love making money. I know, but I just love doing it. But you're really perfect for podcasting. One, because like the shit that comes out of your mouth is so out of left field. And there's no time constraint. On Bravo, you were getting cut all the time like just for time and watch happens live they cut so much for time but you could go on for you're literally the chattiest person i know i can talk

a lot and i literally i get i say so much stuff that i'm probably not supposed to say that i have to have my manager listen to it and then my publicist then it goes to fire smart very so i'm because i say a lot of things on there like nope nope nope no that's so funny well when reality hits it's a podcast, one podcast. You can listen to it all the places. Yes, wherever you get your podcasts. Wherever you get your podcasts. Jax, thank you so much for replacing Jax today.

It's been a pleasure. Oh, by the way, I just want to say congratulations to Brittany and her cup sheet. It launched today. It's really cute. So check that out. Really check that out, everybody. I'll do a better job. It's cover-ups.

It's bathing suits, one pieces and two pieces. And by the way, for the big- big breasted ladies I tried it on yesterday and it fit me splendidly like it's really very supportive Cupshe's such a good brand they always make

like good big boob bathing suits and Brittany's are really cute so congrats Brittany I wish Brittany was here I love you Jax thank you I love you too

I hope you guys enjoyed the episode have a great weekend we'll see you on Monday bye