The Toast - Jax With The Facts: Thursday, March 16th, 2023

Episode Date: March 16, 2023

Kylie Cosmetics Announces New Mascara "Kylash" (13:46) Gwyneth Paltrow reveals the 'weirdest' wellness trend she's tried (Page Six) (24:35) Jamie Foxx throws Cameron Diaz's comeback film int...o chaos and SACKS for crew members (Daily Mail) (36:33) Mary Fitzgerald was 'worried' when Bre Tiesi joined 'Selling Sunset' (Page Six) (40:13) Ariana Madix speaks out on Tom Sandoval breakup, Raquel Leviss affair (Page Six), Kristen Doute 'can see' why Tom Sandoval went for 'f-king dumb' Raquel Leviss (Page Six) (45:48) Vanderpump Rules Recap (50:12) The Toast with Jackie (@JackieOshry) and Claudia Oshry  (@girlwithnojob)  Merch The Toast Patreon Girl With No Job by Claudia OshrySee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good morning, Millennials. Welcome back to The Toast. Happy Thursday. Happy Thursday, everyone. Hey, Jax. How are you? I'm good. Knowing that it's Thursday, knowing that we're cruising downhill into the latter half of the week,
Starting point is 00:00:17 it's encouraging. It's encouraging. Ask me how I am. How are you? I'm amazing. I'm incredible. Would you like to share why? I would. After months of uncertainty, weeks of agony, your girl has finally secured Taylor Swift tickets for one of the shows. I said I wanted to go in Nashville because like Nashville's iconic. It's the weekend of Margot's birthday.
Starting point is 00:00:45 We wanted to go big. As of this morning, this morning, we got our tickets. Now I'm still got nothing for MetLife and my MetLife seats are the seats I want to be like really close and see everything.
Starting point is 00:00:58 The Nashville, I don't really care. But I'm, oh, living on a prayer. Take my hand and we'll make it, I swear. Oh, oh, living on a prayer. Yeah, it's very exciting.
Starting point is 00:01:16 We got our tics. The fam is going. The fam is going. I need to, you know, plan my weekend, plan my outfits. Oh my God, same. I thought it was going to be hard coming up with one outfit, let two oh well yeah for your second excursion but no I just need one but I'm not gonna get too hung up on it like we're gonna be in a box with our girlies yeah it's a judgment-free zone no and like I I wasn't sure everyone would be down like when we started the group chat this
Starting point is 00:01:43 morning I'm like are we really doing this? And everyone was like, yes, yes. Can I bring my husband? Can I bring my husband? I'm like, yeah, the more people,
Starting point is 00:01:49 the merrier. Like it brings the cost down. Like please invite, invite your neighbor, invite your accountant, invite literally the man who works at the bodega. Like anyone can come. As long as they're paying.
Starting point is 00:01:58 Oh yeah. No, this isn't a charity. Oh no. No. Like I'm so excited. I cannot believe like, I just just I'm always having these big ideas you know and then like they never happen and then like I'm sitting at home and I'm like
Starting point is 00:02:10 oh yeah this was supposed to be the weekend I was gonna go to Nashville but it's the year of yes and we got it done yeah now we just got a plan now we got a plan like weekend in Nashville that's also just like baseline even without the concert so exciting I love a girls weekend in Nashville and the husbands are coming like it's exciting yeah the husbands are coming we were just talking about that like we I'm not sure I'm not sure we don't have space for everyone's husband no not everyone's husband no it's gonna be like a first hopefully hopefully we're overwhelmed with people who want to bring their you know friends and husbands so that we really fill every seat in the box and then everyone's cost goes down. And I feel like maybe this would be a good opportunity
Starting point is 00:02:47 to punish Ben for what he did to you. Oh my God, that would be so mean. Actions have consequences, Turdy Lou. I have been like the planner. I secured, like I did everything and my husband doesn't come. That's so mean. I would never do that.
Starting point is 00:03:01 Actions have consequences. How will he learn? I would never. He wouldn't even learn like he would just hate me how are you gonna teach him everybody saw the photo you posted it in the real we did we posted the beans it was jarring and people are not okay it's not sitting well and we need a plan of action we cannot let this go unpunished turdy but I will have more I would also be punishing myself like I would not be like me having so much fun if like everyone's there with their husband like Ben's at
Starting point is 00:03:27 home because I'm being like treating him like a child sure but we could also keep it a girly weekend we could we should discuss it in the chat we should discuss it in the chat like most things it's a democracy Jackie take it to the chat the box is a democracy it's a debaocracy. It's a box. Yeah. So it's just like a major update in our lives, which is the point of the show. Yeah. And considering all of the turmoil about tickets in the past, it's good to share the good news as well. Yeah. And that, you know, the Swifty community could be happy for us. I don't know they'll be happy because no it's a doggy dog world toaster community will be happy for us but the Swifty community they'll start you know with like well they're not really disturbing they're not real fans Jackie said this one time on the show
Starting point is 00:04:17 it's every Swifty for themselves in this life and you know what I subscribe to that like you know I'm I'm always looking out for number one yeah the other Swifties didn't get you tickets so true they weren't worried about your place I have to say the toaster Swifties every time I talk about you know um my lack of seats I've gotten a million DMs from people like I have an extra seat in Houston Tampa it's never been like a city I plan to go to if somebody literally said MetLife like I'm there yeah I was invited to Tampa oh you by the way I was actually thinking you should go to Tampa it's far it's really far and the drive from like Tampa to South Florida is one long dark highway I think they call it like Crocodile Alley or something I drove it in the middle of the night and I almost ran out
Starting point is 00:05:00 of gas and then we went uh when I was in Clearwater for my show and then heading to Fort Lauderdale after my show I was like oh it's a three-hour drive let's not spend the night in Clearwater let's just drive she was wrong literally we had no gas left we're driving on this forlorn endless pitch black highway nothing in sight nothing in sight it's um it's a reservation like land so it's just these miles and miles of forest. Like that's it. It's like a little scary. It's dark.
Starting point is 00:05:29 There's no civilization. Thank God. Literally. Like I think we had maybe like 10 or 20 miles left in our gas tank that there was actually quite lovely, gorgeous, brand new gas station with like snacks and we got gas. And I felt, you know, it's like a mirage. I'm like this isn't a real gas station it's it's my eyes playing tricks on me but if I didn't see that gas station
Starting point is 00:05:49 like I might not be here today no you would just like have parked on the side of the road wait until morning triple a would come you'd still be here that's that's just like the beginning of every cautionary tale they ran out of gas you were with a big group no it's just me and one other person really i thought that that was the show that family went to no no no they came to fort lauderdale but nobody made the trip to clearwater so it was me and lizzie one other woman on the side of the road that's literally how this women that's how every story starts they pulled over for help never seen again yeah. Yeah. Goodbye, Turdy Lou. Goodbye, Turdy Lou. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Good day, Turdy Lou. No, like, I feel like this happens to everyone. Like, they have a few stories in their life where, like, in hindsight, they realize, like, how close they were to potential danger. Yes. That happens to me a lot. And, like, those stories keep me up at night. Like, how I could be so irresponsible and not get gas. But I didn't know that we were about to embark on this.
Starting point is 00:06:42 It's like a famous highway. It never ends. And there's nothing on it. Right. So I won't be going we were about to embark on this. It's like a famous highway. It never ends and there's nothing on it. Right. So I won't be going to the Tampa show is what you're saying. So if you're making the journey to Tampa from South Florida, like Miami, Fort Lauderdale, you have to take that highway. And just know, be prepared. Bring snacks.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Have a full tank. Yeah. Do it during the day. Those are all just good tips for a road trip anyway. Yeah, I guess. But like with road trips, it's like getting gas is all part of the fun, you know, except when you drive with me and I flush our keys down the toilet by accident, we end up stranded in Connecticut.
Starting point is 00:07:11 But that was just like a me thing. There's worse places to be than Connecticut, but still. No, it was broad daylight. But still. It was broad daylight. We were at like a very busy highway and a very busy rest stop. Like I didn't feel scared. I felt fucking annoyed
Starting point is 00:07:25 annoyed oh my god like that was one of the worst days of my life just be so grateful that the car was unlocked and we could get our stuff I just also another like added layer of that story is when we woke up that morning in Rhode Island to make our journey home my like throat was starting to hurt and I might have just been like hungover and tired but like you know it was during those times when you just like felt like you had COVID and I was like sitting there just like, let me get home. Like I feel like I might have COVID and like I'm getting everyone sick. I didn't have COVID, but that one, I was like already not feeling well.
Starting point is 00:07:55 And then we're making such good time. Oh man, I'm driving like an animal, like so fast. It's like a four or five hour drive. I was getting us there in literally three and a half. I was making sickening time. We stopped to take a piss, get a snack. I'm peeing the car keys fall in the toilet I'm like oh my god I'm gonna have to stick my hand in this toilet next thing I know automatic flush my day was fucking ruined that we have an episode um a podcast episode about it what was I think the podcast episode was called extremely hasty flush if you're new here it's one of our best episodes telling the story um
Starting point is 00:08:22 go enjoy check that out it's a crazy story oh look at you rubbing your belly I know it's one of our best episodes telling the story um go enjoy check that out it's a crazy story oh look at you rubbing your belly I know it's a big belly me too but at least you have like a reason yours isn't so big no actually I still have like a pretty big belly and like we all saw that olive shirt yesterday thanks Selena yeah I was wearing like a skin tight shirt yesterday which i do not do and some of you might notice my arms were in front of my stomach the entire time and my my legs were crossed my knee was so high up just to cover my stomach lady tings no just just like life things oh my god and that's why you look like a lady yeah i am a lady you're a lad oh oh so true she read me to filth but like can you be mad when it's true
Starting point is 00:09:09 no no no or when it's just like so punchy you can't be yeah you can't no you can't be mad when somebody like makes a joke at your expense but it's such a good joke it's like you want to be offended but you're overwhelmed by the feeling of respect for the person's joke. Yeah. That's the way to do it. So true. That's the way to do it. You have to respect women in comedy.
Starting point is 00:09:31 That's the truth. So we've got a good show because last night was Vanderpump Rules and I have never really seen an episode of TV that made me feel so many things. And you would think
Starting point is 00:09:41 it would be because of what's gone on in the last couple of weeks with Scandival but like honestly it has my feelings have nothing to do with Scandival. No we have to judge the episode on its face and it's actually surprising what conclusions you come away with. It's surprising with what conclusions you come away with and I actually can't recall in recent memory an episode of any show reality where a person came off as bad as Lala Kent did in last night's episode it might be one of the worst episodes for any reality star in history I concur and you know I'm a huge Lala girly but I know like
Starting point is 00:10:18 this is not a great season for her no I can't wait to dive into it and I'm sure we have some Vanderpump news too because Ariana finally spoke out. Yes did the final story Vanderpump will go into TV recap recap and watch what happens live. Also so without further ado let's get into the best five stories that you need to know why the hell not. Why the hell not. Today's episode is brought to you by State Farm. The State Farm personal price plan helps you create a plan that gives you options so you get an affordable price and it comes with a lot of benefits like the coverage you want, a policy that helps cover what's important to you, and an affordable price that's just for you. Because after all, life is just better when you can personalize your experiences. You know,
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Starting point is 00:13:35 That'll get you 30% off your order for all of your skin and hair care needs from a trusted brand like Kitsch. Thank you, Turdy Lou. You're welcome, Jackie O. Our first story eyebrow gate explained kylie cosmetics announced this morning that they have their new kai lash mascara dropping imminently which answers a lot of people's dumb fucking questions about why kylie and Hailey were showing their eyebrows were they making fun of Selena
Starting point is 00:14:06 oh is that the end of the story that's the news the kai lashes are dropping oh and I fucking told you yeah I feel really good about where we landed on this um you had the inclination that she was launching a mascara I did not but you know even if you didn't know that, like, I just think it's so important not to assume the worst in people. There is a Bible verse, have they done the half suit? Always give people the benefit of the doubt. So if your natural like inclination is just to be like, oh, they were making fun of Selena. Like Selena's a victim. Like I need to defend Selena. I need to bully Haley and Kylie. Like maybe you should look inward in this moment. Cause you were wrong. You look like clowns. And let's just not always like jump to conclusions. Now, a lot of people who have seen this are offering rebuttals just to kind of justify
Starting point is 00:14:52 their bullying of these young women. They say one, Kylie and Chris definitely just decided to launch. Yeah, that's how big business works. They just decided to launch a mascara to prove that there was something just to save face. Now, formulating a product packaging takes months. Getting a trademark. What's the name of the mascara? High Lash.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Right. I believe you could look it up. She's had the mascara for the trademark, excuse me, for a very long time. So that line of thinking is just ill-informed and silly. And again, you look like clowns. No, and also one month ago Kylie posted before the things with Hailey she posted a carousel on her Instagram of her eyes where she's wearing heavy mascara she literally has a mascara wand on her eyelash and the caption is new Kylie
Starting point is 00:15:36 cosmetics coming soon like I'm sorry it doesn't take Albert Einstein to put together that she's dropping a mascara but even Albert Einstein would know that she is dropping a mascara. He's not a fool. And then the other line of thinking, people rebutting this saying, well, you know, this is actually, I don't believe that they were promoting the mascara because this FaceTime photo, like Hailey's lashes look bad and she doesn't even look like she's wearing mascara.
Starting point is 00:16:02 I don't think they were trying to show that Hailey was wearing the mascara. They're just trying to show like eyes like something's coming for the eyes was it a FaceTime photo that made the it was like yeah it was a screenshot of a FaceTime where they're both showing their eyes so Kylie's um up close with her eyes she's definitely wearing mascara and Hailey is not you can go to my Instagram I have the screenshot right there oh you do okay um I want to see exactly what was posted. Oh, I see. Because I thought that maybe Kylie and Hailey were doing one of their videos together for Kylie's YouTube channel or for Hailey's bathroom.
Starting point is 00:16:34 I mean, or both. I thought that that's what they were doing. I thought they were together and that Kylie and Hailey were filming one of Kylie's like, get ready with me using our new kylash. And that's why they were posting it. Also, maybe they still, that's a great idea. I hope that they do do that.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Yeah. They should run and do one now. And also, uh, in my bathroom with Hailey, I just think like we really, as a society need to take a look inward into how, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:00 you all acted these last couple of weeks. Like the relentless, they really let up on Kylie because Selena commented like no I love Kylie no because they live for they only are interested in Haley and Selena right so they really it's still I still see all over my TikTok and my Twitter and my Instagram relentless bullying saying Haley Bieber looks like an ear, like making fun of her, her business, her looks, her family. Like, my God, all for what? A mascara. Now that's what you all did.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Like, I seriously, I think this is a teachable moment for people. I, and I know they won't because the internet never learns, but everyone who engaged in this type of, you know, online harassment and bullying, like, I really hope you take a look inward to see how fucking stupid and mean you are they won't especially if they're still justifying it so let me get this straight things that were posted that meant that Hayley and Kylie were making fun of Selena the eyes FaceTime right and then had done a TikTok Selena had done a TikTok like a week before like showing her makeup and she was like zoomed in on her eyebrow she, like showing her makeup and she was like zoomed in on her eyebrows. She overly laminated her eyebrows and said, I accidentally overlay
Starting point is 00:18:09 laminated. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So they had their eyes just add Hailey Bieber and then a picture of Kylie close up that says this was an accident. So between the word accident and the fact that there was an eye and an eyebrow, this is, you know, bullying. but the reason why I thought they were making a video is because when Kylie posted this as an accident question mark it's in front of her pink yeah backdrop where she does her YouTube videos maybe there is a video coming to support the launch of this mascara yeah and maybe Hailey is lending her celebrity to Kylie's cause we don't know but even still these these people are crazy and they will never concede that they were wrong no and they're crazy and it's easy to just you know dismiss them but when you
Starting point is 00:18:53 think about like the real implications like look hayley bieber has definitely seen all of what people are saying about her like this is a human being and it went beyond just like funny meme internet culture like it went to really dark mean places and I just I think it's wrong and I don't I don't you know what's the word I'm looking for I don't um hmm what's the word I'm looking here for what are you trying to say it's not associate but like I don't relate to my generation and of the internet in this way at all yeah and you know when you think about who the Jelena Stans are like these are people our age because we were we were young yes we think Jelena Stans are like 12 but we were 12 when they were Jelena and now we're all grown up so these are grown-ass women no Jelena Stanhood is definitely a mental illness
Starting point is 00:19:46 grown-ass women no Jelena Stanhood is definitely a mental illness but I agree there's also like the people who just like keep talking about this story like you know commentators and that I'm sure like on TikTok it's like explainer channels where they like gossip channels yeah credence to these actual conspiracy theories hallucinations hallucinations yes there's that and then there's also selena who fed into this thing the entire time and if the entire time she never said a peep about instead of playing a victim it wouldn't have that's just like gasoline on the fire for the people who will do anything to help selena and to get attention from selena yeah Oh, Selena will comment on my video if I'm really feeling sorry for her. And like destroying two other women. Yeah, no, there is,
Starting point is 00:20:30 she bears responsibility and I, she does, I'm sorry. Yeah, she does. This is so, this got so out of control and it's still going on. It's not even like it's over. It's still going on. Justin Bieber performed at a festival
Starting point is 00:20:41 and they were chanting like, fuck Hailey in the crowds. It's like, oh, you're taking this shit into real life you're not embarrassed another level of mental illness yeah this was such a terror honestly gives me a pit such a look what the internet can do so fast with no proof no nothing my god imagine if people put their energy toward worthy causes or we would be we would be a perfect society toward their own lives maybe they would be Imagine if people put their energy toward worthy causes. We would be a perfect society. Or toward their own lives.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Maybe they would be healed. Toward their own lives. Maybe they would be healed, Turdy Lou. Maybe they would be healed, Turdy Lou. But maybe not. Maybe not. This is just like a very upsetting saga, series of events. Yeah, but I do hope. Like I'm never, even even if it is you know
Starting point is 00:21:25 people feel justified and rightfully so I'm just never going to be the type of person to like hop on a bandwagon and like start destroying people like even with this Raquel thing it's crazy and I'm like eating it up but like people are calling her like even Chloe Fineman called her a filthy whore on Watch What Happens Live like it was kind of crazy um and and you know she she's in the wrong Raquel like there is justifiable anger towards her I'm just personally never going to be the type of person like hop on a bandwagon of internet culture and now to see how wrong everyone was like there's no repercussions for that sort of behavior because it's anonymous internet activity yeah it's terrible yeah no you have like Ariel Chardis
Starting point is 00:22:02 you have to like keep it in mind that these are people. And I know this Raquel thing, it's just like on another level. Yeah. And what she did was so wrong. So people really do feel so justified because it's like, well, she's in the wrong and I'm in the right. But it's like, get your own life. I know.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Like, it reminds me a lot of the Ariel Charnas thing like how everyone got so bent out of shape people's literally saying I was at Polo Bar I saw Brandon Charnas getting arrested there's no accountability when shit like that ends up being completely untrue yeah that's different but yeah yeah it's just like the whole message of like internet culture having no accountability and these things just happen and they have real life repercussions and then things just move on and people never get their justice yeah it's like it's so unfair no they get their justice like 15 years later when we look back on old clips you know just like with like all those old interviews of like Lindsay Lohan and stuff I can't believe that's the way we treated young girls look at her treating Hailey Bieber like what's the difference she's so right she's so right what's the difference it's just you know
Starting point is 00:23:08 new clothes yeah same message new clothes so true are you ready for our next story someone who's always trying to better themselves and is always being knocked down along the way though we'll never stop her who Gwyneth Paltrow oh I have so many thoughts reveals the weirdest wellness trends she's tried and she's getting a lot of backlash for her habits Gwyneth has done some of the wackiest things in the name of wellness but the weirdest one according to her apparently involved her rectum during an appearance on the art of Being Well podcast, she revealed-
Starting point is 00:23:46 Which we love a Dear Media podcast making waves. Love. She revealed that she has used ozone therapy rectally. It's pretty weird, but it's been very helpful. According to Healthline, ozone therapy refers to the process of administering ozone gas into your body to treat a disease or wound. However, the process is not regulated.
Starting point is 00:24:05 And in 2019, the FDA claimed it was a toxic gas with no known useful medical application. The FDA also claimed that Oxycontin was not addictive unless than 1% of patients get addicted. Such is important to know. The FDA claims a lot of stuff. No motherfucking lies were're motherfucking told bitch how can we trust fd after we've seen dope sick no and it's not just the one thing like oh oh oh got him got him Gwyneth went on to break down her wellness routine with the host Will Cole all while administering herself an IV. She said I love
Starting point is 00:24:46 an IV. I'm an early IV adopter noting that she specifically loves two types of IV drips. I can't pronounce them. She said they're quite hard to find and those make me feel so good. Aside from that she said she practices intermittent fasting until around noon when she finally eats something that won't spike her blood sugar like soup or bone broth. Then she gets in one hour of movement from Pilates or walking before starting her post-workout routine. After dry brushing in her infrared sauna for 30 minutes, she has a paleo dinner with lots of vegetables to support her detox. So the backlash she's receiving is not really about the ozone therapy.
Starting point is 00:25:19 It's about eating bone broth as a meal. It's about doing Tracy Anderson and paleo following paleo restrictions no and basically they say starving herself what are you detoxing if you're only having ever like bone broth and vegetables and the the backlash has basically been this isn't wellness this is toxic diet culture so I just want to know and I I'm ready for everyone to disagree with me this is going to be a hot take unpopular opinion why the fuck do you care sure let's say some of the stuff she's doing is toxic diet culture even though I don't think um because she chooses to do Tracy Anderson like that makes it toxic diet culture like doing a soul cycle is not toxic what's wrong
Starting point is 00:26:01 with Tracy Anderson in the it's just it's just like a trendy you know workout I like it's considered toxic diet culture isn't she just like bopping around yeah no because it's a workout oh because we're working out is toxic yeah like who fucking cares Gwyneth Paltrow did not get on this podcast and say this is what everyone should do and you're all fat slobs if you don't she was asked what she does and this is what she does you don't like it don't do it don't listen to the podcast like the way this has blown up and you know who actually had a very good take and i don't think i've said these words in a while bethany frankel she's you know she's always making takes on tiktok and they're making waves she was like literally who
Starting point is 00:26:43 fucking cares yeah and then there's the like, what is this saying for girls? It's a role model, Charity Lou. So you know what? You have a daughter. Tell her not to watch this. You teach her differently. It's not Gwyneth Paltrow's job to teach your children anything. It's your job, bitch. Yours. Yeah. I would also say that one Gwyneth Paltrow is like a guinea pig for wellness. I think she tries all these things that she can be an expert on them yep for her site I'm sure she's tried a lot of stuff that didn't work or do anything and doesn't write about but then she's done things that she then espouses like vaginal steaming and some of the other quirkier things but like that's her business
Starting point is 00:27:19 and that's her brand I also would say the proof is in the pudding like this woman looks amazing and she's one of the few people in Hollywood who's letting herself age naturally and the only thing that she's doing that's anti-aging are these natural remedies that yes seem extreme to you but like what you'd rather just having her injecting herself full of chemicals that's not extreme like it's everyone does has some sort of regimen that they follow I think Gwyneth looks amazing she's clearly extremely healthy like I'm not saying this is for everyone also not everyone can afford to do this has the time to spend their whole day worried about wellness what they're putting into their body and how their body is like physically moving but that is actually her job her
Starting point is 00:27:59 business yeah by the way you are just like straight facts today Jax Jax with the facts Jax with the facts and like there are all different kinds of lifestyles that are promoted on podcasts, on TikTok, on Instagram. Everybody finds their beat. Like there are people for whom this is for. By the way, that's so true. I feel like there's a lot of discourse around like body positivity and like, you know, accepting all, all sizes. And I love that, but it's obviously on the heavier spectrum. But really at its core, body positivity is accepting all bodies and all lifestyles. So why is, while yes, you know, she's extreme on the other end, why is that not acceptable?
Starting point is 00:28:38 Right. That's a good point. And even if you just take like one, I mean, not that you need to take anything from her interview, but even if you were just like, maybe I've been intermittent fasting, maybe I should then break my fast with something that won't spike my blood sugar.
Starting point is 00:28:51 I would never have thought. I would have been like bagel, you know? Yeah, right. Like sugar. You have to then spend your whole day intermittent fast, bone broth, Tracy Anderson, a paleo dinner. Like she's doing all these things
Starting point is 00:29:01 to give recommendations to her audience, which by the way, there is an audience for this and do with it what you will if you follow Gwyneth Paltrow on social media which I do and it's one of my favorite pastimes um she is always cooking like she eats and it's obviously not anything I would ever eat it's like grains and veggies and eggs and she cooks and eats a lot. Like, I don't think this is a malnourished human being. Yes, it sounds extreme, but she was literally asked,
Starting point is 00:29:31 what are things that you do for, this was the question. And again, she didn't endorse anything for anyone else. It's just, that's, it's just so crazy to like ask someone a question and then like attack them for their own, they're not hurting anyone. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:43 Well, it's not like the interview attacked her no your habits are wrong but but you tuned into it no and like if she clearly has such a big following she has such a big business she was just on shark tank like to act like she doesn't know a little bit what she's talking about and that she's just like this fringe person starving herself and that's just not the case. Yeah, no, I think everybody really needs to relax. I'm not into this attack on on people's lifestyle when it comes to diet. And I'm not a person who's ever been particularly fond of diets. But like, it's people's choice. Like, everyone's just trying to better themselves. And no one has all the answers. Really? Everyone, even if someone's not trying to better themselves and no one has all the answers really everyone even if someone's not trying to better themselves okay like you want to go like shoot up crack I don't care like what is
Starting point is 00:30:28 this mentality of people being so obsessed with other people's choices like that's never gonna be me ever like that's my philosophy for everything like you're doing something to yourself and I would never do it live your life bestie like I am never going to get so bent out of shape about what someone else is doing, what someone else's choice, that doesn't affect me. Yeah, of course. I will never care. Of course.
Starting point is 00:30:50 I will never care. Of course. Get a life. Yeah. Focus on you. She also winds up being really on the cutting edge of stuff. So I would maybe take heed. But no, like even like, I mean, vaginal steaming,
Starting point is 00:31:04 I don't know where that's gone but I remember like she had her show on Netflix and she was talking about like the Wim Hof method where it's like a cold plunge do you see everyone with a fucking ice bath in their backyard now that they get at home to go 100% 100% no and she talked about this on Shark Tank she was like years maybe 10 years ago like they were writing on the blog about gluten-free and people were like that's so crazy that's so crazy that's so crazy now you literally can't walk into a grocery store without being attacked by gluten-free products I know and now it's all about grain-free she said and by the way that's not to say everything she talks about is gonna be that next thing but we have to give
Starting point is 00:31:37 her a little bit of respect for sure and I just don't feel like like I don't understand why if I don't have a gluten intolerance I need to be gluten-free no and no one's properly explained that to me no I also feel like people who are gluten free like are fine like they're actually not like man some people make it for health choices like sure love that but people are saying they have a gluten intolerance but like their whole life they were completely fine I'm suspicious yeah grew up on like peanut butter jelly sandwiches right celiac is different like you have an actual medical like uh intolerance like I get that but people who just like make up that they're gluten-free like okay I just feel like it's people trying to be interesting yeah or a healthy but I don't I don't understand maybe there are health benefits they haven't been communicated to me well enough in order for me to be convinced
Starting point is 00:32:17 because you know I'm always open to bettering myself I am of course you are I am and why can't I have a grain what's wrong with grains you know what actually I you know obviously I feel like for a lot of us like the millennial kind of Gwyneth Paltrow vibe is Lauren Bostic like she's always sharing wellness and I took a wellness tip from her and it has changed my life actually what is it I it's like so dumb and it's not like anything actually like I don't even know if you could be considered wellness but I bought a tongue scraper that sounds wellness Jackie you have to get one wait why what does it do when I brush my teeth in the morning I also just scrape my tongue with a toothbrush no with a tongue scraper okay and I have brushed my
Starting point is 00:32:57 tongue with a toothbrush many many times over my life you would die if you saw the stuff that comes out of my tongue in the morning it's like so much phlegm where do you get it amazon amazon it's um i telling you i feel different and you know i'm always telling you like i'm waking up with a sore throat like whatever i feel different i'd scrape my tongue before bed and after i wake up change my life shout out lauren bostick like legitimately Was there a specific brand? Amazon. Like it's a metal, like looks like the letter U. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:30 Okay. I see. I'll go with the bestseller. And I go fucking hard, Jackie. You will die. The ones at night aren't that crazy. In the morning, I cannot get over. And I feel like I've noticed a big difference in my breath.
Starting point is 00:33:42 That's what the title says. Bad breath reduced. Yes. Great girls. And how much is it? It's like 10 bucks on a big difference in my breath. That's what the title says. Bad breath reduced. Yes, great girls. And how much is it? It's like 10 bucks on Amazon. It's not expensive. Yeah, it's already ordered one second. It is, I think it was like nine.
Starting point is 00:33:54 Guys, scrape your motherfucking tongues. Like it's disgusting. $9.97. Especially if you've had like breath problems, scrape your tongue. It's the best thing I ever did. That's wellness for sure. Yeah. No. And so now I'm like, maybe I need to get into wellness. I feel weller. Maybe I should be taping
Starting point is 00:34:10 my mouth. I should be taping my mouth. I've also started to take magnesium before bed. I take magnesium every day as well. That's like a Ben Soffer thing that he's, Ben's very into wellness weirdly. And I'm always like writing him off. Yeah, those beans are extremely well. No, Ben is like always looking into like Eastern medicine, like things he could do to like. But I'm always like yeah those beans are extremely well no Ben is like always looking into like eastern medicine like things he could do to like but I feel like he's also Ben loves a quick fix yes but weirdly no when it comes to his body like he's always looking for like alternatives and he's been like on my ass about magnesium when I tell you I've taken magnesium before bed every day this week what's it doing for you of all, I'm having a much more restful sleep. I am waking up on my own and I find my thoughts to be slightly calmed before bed. You know, I'm always thinking about like crazy shit before bed. Interesting. I take it for pregnancy migraines and it's also
Starting point is 00:34:57 good for, um, I think leg cramps. Yeah. Well, I've been told to take magnesium for my leg cramps. Um, and I've gotten magnesium when I've done IVs for like hangovers. I've been told to take magnesium for my leg cramps um and I've gotten magnesium when I've done IVs for like hangovers I've gotten ones with magnesium and it makes me so tired and the nurse one time actually told me magnesium can make you tired so it's also good to take before bed well I do happen to take my vitamins before bed so I'm just like kind of on a wellness journey on a wellness journey I mean I'm on a wellness journey too in part two of my video collab with Flav City I saw is up today we went shopping together for baby food and I just like picked out what I would buy at the store and he told me what was wrong with it and what to get instead or if I was making
Starting point is 00:35:31 the right choices they're on my Instagram and Flav City's Instagram and people are quaking like I'm a Bobby approved girly well I would also like to know like 10% of the time for me like the wellness things I've been doing are like very low lift like I'm not gonna get a cold plunge I'm not gonna get a dry brush um so if anyone has any like dry brush sounds low lift I don't know hovered over naked in the shower sounds like a lot of back work I think you could like you could just dry brush your face okay well if anybody has like low lift wellness things that like I've really made an impact like for me like the tooth brushing scraping has made a real impact and it's three seconds of my day and it was like a ten dollar thing on Amazon. Any low lift wellness tips that'll just make me feel better,
Starting point is 00:36:07 especially like during the week in the mornings? Let me know. Okay. I'm kind of like loving this journey. I know. We're just constantly evolving, Turdy Lou. I know because if like a year ago me heard me talking like this, she would slap me in the face.
Starting point is 00:36:21 I know. Add wellness to the list. Downton, reading, wellness. What was the other thing? Wearing your hair up. Hair up. That's a wellness tip. It is.
Starting point is 00:36:33 Are you ready for our next story? A little drama. A little movie set drama because Cameron Diaz is working on her comeback film and allegedly Jamie Foxx is throwing it into chaos as he sacked four crew members and is just having a total quote meltdown. Well this is the first I'm hearing of a Cameron Diaz comeback and for that I'm excited. Exactly Cameron Diaz's first film in nine years has reportedly been
Starting point is 00:36:57 thrown into chaos after co-star Jamie Foxx's on set meltdown. It's been reported that the actor has become so unhappy with production on the london set of back in action that's the movie that four people have been sacked the netflix comedy will mark cameron's return to acting after previously stepping from the spotlight stepping away from the spotlight to raise her son according to the sun the oscar winner jamie foxx has axed an executive producer two directors and even his own driver becoming pretty unpopular in the process. A source told the publication there have been some major issues on set
Starting point is 00:37:29 and Jamie has had a major meltdown over it all. By the way, just like Cameron Diaz and Jamie Foxx working together again after Annie. Again after Annie. They also worked together in 1999 for the movie Any Given Sunday. So they obviously like working together. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:47 And I feel like Cameron Diaz is like really down to earth and she wouldn't like gravitate towards someone who's like mean and difficult to work with. So I don't know. There's something about the story that's not adding up for me. Yeah. He, I don't know. I don't know what's going on, but I need this movie and I need it now. So everyone's trying to find a way to work together.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Do we have a synopsis? Is it like a rom-com? Jamie and Cameron fall in love. Back in action sounds like an action movie. Like it kind of is. So it will be directed by Horrible Boss's director and written by the neighbor's screenwriter. It's been filming in London since December.
Starting point is 00:38:17 Little is known about the plot, but the actors have been spotted filming stunts. So that gives action. On the River Thamesames alongside their co-star glenn close oh wow yeah this doesn't sound like a classic cameron film no but she's always switching it up i know and she's always right she has a good picker even though i do think that like a lot of celebrities make bad movies when they work with netflix just because netflix pays them a lot of money yeah but she is not coming out of retirement to embarrass herself. Yeah and
Starting point is 00:38:49 she doesn't need the money lest we not forget she made a hundred million dollars on Shrek. Yeah but I think that it's possible to make good movies with Netflix. It's possible. I think they start to get bad when you have like a multi-movie deal and then by like movie four we're like what are we saying now. yeah but a first movie back in nine years there's a lot of story to tell there is I just whenever I hear that Netflix is making a movie even with the Nancy Meyers thing we were talking about yesterday I'm always just like certain it's not going to be good Netflix like original movies are really not known to be amazing some of them have been great yeah of course but some of them I'm like with big stars
Starting point is 00:39:22 I feel like they're always getting like Mark Wahlberg, Kevin Hart, the rock, like, and they're like, I couldn't even tell you the names. Yeah. They're all pretty forgettable. They're not bad.
Starting point is 00:39:31 I watch them. I enjoy them. And I look forward that they're coming to Netflix, but they don't stick with you. They're almost like Hallmark, but with like bigger budgets and celebrities, they make like the same movies. Yeah. They're like rom-coms.
Starting point is 00:39:43 It used to just be like the stuff that we would go to the movies and see like crappy movies. But I guess there's just more of them movies. Yeah. They're like rom-coms. It used to just be like the stuff that we would go to the movies and see. Like crappy movies. But I guess there's just more of them now. Yeah. Hmm. Well I will be watching this movie because I'm a Cameron Diaz girly. And I think her and Jamie Foxx have great on screen chemistry. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:39:57 Of course. But I don't know if I'm buying this drama. Like maybe it's just. I don't know. It just doesn't sound. Just doesn't sound right to me. Yeah. There's got to be sound right to me. Yeah. There's gotta be more to the story.
Starting point is 00:40:06 Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Is it our fifth and final? No, it's our fourth. Okay. One of your favorite, least favorite people. I could give you a million guesses and you never would guess. One of my favorite, least favorite?
Starting point is 00:40:21 Yeah. Okay. I'll give you a few, I'll give you a few clues. Reality TV, a show on Netflix. Crichel. No, close. Your least favorite person on that show. Mary.
Starting point is 00:40:38 Mary Fitzgerald was worried when Brie Tiesse joined Selling Sunset. So Nick Cannon's baby mama, Brie Tiesse, is joining the newse joined Selling Sunset. So Nick Cannon's baby mama, Brie Tiesse, is joining the new season of Selling Sunset. Mary spoke to Design Scene in an interview and said, I was a little worried when she first came. I was like, I can't do any more drama. Please don't give me any more drama. Oh, she said.
Starting point is 00:41:00 Shut up, Mary. Right, like that's literally the fucking show. Your job. That's your job. She said that Brie ended up being nice and that she likes her a lot and there will be a very interesting dynamic on the forthcoming season I kind of love that they have like another celebrity adjacent person like Chrishell was Justin Hartley's ex yeah um I kind of like that I did see also an article that was you know unverified sources that you know Christina's
Starting point is 00:41:26 obviously off the show and Chrishell is the new villain huh in my eyes she always was the villain agreed so for everyone to see what I see if that's you know potentially happening I'm on board I too am on board I don't think I have the patience to catch up on the show because it's really bad and slow I didn't even finish the most recent season it was really bad I didn't start the most recent season and to you will watch like 10 hours of content to just find out that like you know Christine and Emma dated the same guy 20 years ago I'm good on that um so unfortunately it's not for me but I'm glad that you know they're keeping it interesting yeah this is a good casting if I was still into the show I would watch but it got really
Starting point is 00:42:12 bad the first season was amazing the second season was great and then after that it was just bad and I'm sorry there is no show without Christine no like try as you might may you can do the most constantly but she was the show and I loved her but whether you hated her or loved her you can admit she was the show yeah yeah so they're just gonna have to you know they've made their bed now they lie in it Mary are you ready for our fifth and final story if it is the fifth and final story that's brought to you by Manscaped ladies this is a public service announcement our friends at Manscaped now have beard products that are going even further with their brand new Weed Whacker 2.0. Tell the world the leaders in below the waist grooming are traveling north of your man's south pole. Their
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Starting point is 00:45:41 It's a great gift. And then you'll also just be like the favorite daughter or son. Thank you, Claudia. You're welcome welcome our fifth and final story the latest scandaval news ariana maddox has finally spoken out about the scandaval let me just pull up my notes i literally had notes from yesterday's episode okay well first we're gonna do scandaval updates and then an episode recap because there's two things i want to talk about quickly she put out a gorgeous picture of herself saying hi where to begin I want to express my most sincere gratitude
Starting point is 00:46:09 for the outpouring of love and support I've received from friends family and people I've never met in the last two weeks when I felt like I couldn't even stand you have all given me strength to continue and see through my darkest hours to say I have been devastated and broken is an understatement however I know I that I am not in this alone so many of my closest friends are also grieving this loss right now I'm so fucking lucky to have the best support system in the world and I hope I can repay every single person for the love you have shown me what doesn't kill me better run oh my god I was obsessed beyond with that final line I was just reading it I'm like I was like oh what doesn't kill me makes me stronger and then
Starting point is 00:46:43 I'm like wait what doesn't kill me better run I'm using that in perpetuity it's so true it's so good it's so good so she's doing well she looks amazing I think she was at this wedding in Mexico this weekend I think that's where this picture is from Katie also said on watch what happens live that she's doing remarkably well I think you know I'm sure it's highs and lows and the whole world rallying around her definitely doesn't hurt yeah but I'm glad it's highs and lows and the whole world rallying around her definitely doesn't hurt yeah but I'm glad that she I wasn't even waiting for her to say anything but it's like nice to hear from her you know agreed I wasn't expecting to hear anything from her I just honestly I wish her well like I hope she's just doing well taking care of herself she
Starting point is 00:47:18 doesn't owe us you know social media content but appreciative appreciative then also I wanted to share Kristen Doty went on the vile and she said she can see why Tom Sandoval went for quote fucking dumb Raquel Levis she did not hold back all these podcasts that are coming out there's so much I have a lot of thoughts but first she called Raquel dumb with no personality and said that she can see why Tom cheated on Ariana with her Ariana has a backbone Raquel does not Raquel validates no personality and said that she can see why Tom cheated on Ariana with her. Ariana has a backbone. Raquel does not. Raquel validates everything that Tom needs to be validated. She claims that Raquel makes Sandoval.
Starting point is 00:47:51 Raquel 28 makes Sandoval 40. Important. Feel cool and talented. Meanwhile, she shaded her ex-boyfriend's quote stupid band in his sequined pants and his nail polish and his dumb haircuts and the pedophile mustache for fuck's sake. She told no lies in that statement no lies were told and I think that um that tracks like you can understand my sand of all like he needs this validation he's he's having a midlife crisis and so choosing Raquel people are like so random Raquel no it really does make sense she's very young that
Starting point is 00:48:23 would make him feel young she's not she doesn't have like a crazy backbone she's not gonna like stand up to him he's just very go with the flow and he wants someone who thinks the world of him and Ariana's like constantly like bringing him down to reality weirdly Ariana thought the world of him and supported him blindly which is so shocking to me and I can't understand it but I also was thinking about like Tom and Kristen's relationship. And I felt like, you know, I'm sure they started out in like a normal relationship.
Starting point is 00:48:48 And Kristen said like, they should have broken up after two years. And then like, they were in the relationship like two years too long. And I feel like he likes his partners. Like when they're girls in the, not in a physical sense, but like in a mental sense.
Starting point is 00:49:02 And then like you become a woman and like you're sure of yourself and you stand up for yourself and you don't see him through these rose colored glasses anymore so it's on to the next and so Ariana's like a few years younger than Kristen and she was very like girlish about the way that she liked him and now like Ariana's like a full woman with a business and all these things and like it's you are less impressive no it's so you're so right like once in his eyes once they they become equals, he's out. No, like you are smaller when you are standing next to someone who is bigger. But like when they are small, it makes you feel big.
Starting point is 00:49:33 No, that's a really, once again, Jackson facts. 40 going after a 28 year old, especially at this stage in his life where he really is looking for like, especially as he's getting older, like I'm sure maybe when he was younger, he really drank, believed his own own and drank his own kool-aid like it does make sense why not make sense but you can see a pattern of like why this person is the way they are and also I could see like Raquel she's finding her feet even in the episode last night I mean I don't know how she went from that to making the worst decisions of a person's life. But like in a few years, she will come into her own too.
Starting point is 00:50:10 And honestly, it will happen again. Yeah, no, you're 100% right. The episode last night was so interesting. And I think it's important to know, we don't know for sure. And Katie Maloney was on Watch Happens Live last night. And to be honest either she was like gatekeeping a lot of information or she knows nothing there's no way that she knows nothing she was definitely gatekeeping and the word on the street because sheena's friend did a
Starting point is 00:50:37 podcast with another one of raquel's friends and they said that raquel and Sandoval started to gravitate towards each other on guys night right after Vegas after Vegas when Katie was asked she said like she didn't know if in the show that it's possible it's almost like she didn't want to say she didn't want to say no because then that makes her look her and Lala look even worse on tonight's episode I agree and it's like how do I feel like I know when the affair started and you don't and like you have access to every single person in the relationship yeah so I really do believe as of last night's episode they hadn't started hooking up yet and so I'm gonna I am gonna judge last night's episode on its own and then also through the lens of what I already know but just watching last night's episode I was floored and actually Ben me. And Ben, I was trying to explain to Ben the dynamics
Starting point is 00:51:26 that he didn't really understand how like what Raquel did is like such a betrayal. And he was like, I'm team Raquel, justice for Raquel. Like if you just watch the episode. So that's somebody who has no alliances. And you know what? My, I had so many takeaways, but my major takeaway is Christina Kelly
Starting point is 00:51:42 is the fucking worst. She's such a follower and she's such a mean girl. And I feel like my only memories of her and Andy actually brought it up on Watch Robbins Live, which I was grateful for, was like dragging Sheena's wedding dress crop top, making so much fun of her because she wasn't invited to the wedding. It was like such a mean girl thing to do. And even last night, she like runs into the room. She's like everyone, everyone was responsible, but like Christina Kelly was just like eating into the room she's like everyone everyone was responsible but like Christina Kelly was just like eating it up she was like so excited to be a part of the cool girl crew and she sees Raquel bought her own nightlight and she runs back into the room and is
Starting point is 00:52:12 like she has a nightlight and these girls are so hypocritical literally Lala's laying there with her blanket she brought from home no and I saw a tweet that was like this girl is going to clown on Raquel bringing a nightlight and it was Lala in bed with her blanket and her bottle from when they went to Mexico a few years ago. Which was, yeah, but no, I'm saying on this actual trip, Lala is laying in bed with Christina Kelly with her leopard blanket. She brings it to the house in Havasui.
Starting point is 00:52:36 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, these are hunchbacks who can't see their own hunch. The whole episode was full of hunchbacks. Lala saying, I respect relationships. She doesn't feel like Raquel respects relationships. When Lala was with Randall when he was married. And it's like, okay, maybe Lala didn't believe that he was married. But every single person around you knew he was married.
Starting point is 00:52:55 But you're the closest one to it. And you don't see that he's married. And slept with James while he was with Raquel. I feel like all those things are in the past. And we can move on from them. But then that doesn't make you the expert holier than that on relationship respect you know yeah so let's go through the episode because they're in Vegas they get back from this night Raquel is drunk which is quite literally what they went on the trip to do no literally and it made me
Starting point is 00:53:19 sad even though like on a drinking level I I do relate more to Lala. And I think Christina Kelly, she's very pregnant now. So I think she's pregnant on the trip because she didn't drink at all. Everything was like a club soda with lime. So we have two sober people. Katie drinks, but like she's clearly,
Starting point is 00:53:37 you know, manages it. And Raquel is like in Vegas, single, in the prime of her life, drinking. And like, she wasn't even like that
Starting point is 00:53:46 crazy for like what she came in and with a plate of food and this is like the craziest thing you've ever seen so dramatic everyone was being and so mean and I didn't even think what she said to Lala was that mean especially given they kept Lala kept like telling everyone the story of what Raquel said and she's just glazing over what Lala said like I told her I wouldn't be comfortable like you know around my man which is such a mean thing to say right it ended up being true but still in that moment it's not true and so they're like and isn't that so crazy what Raquel responded it's like well what you said was also like kind of crazy yeah and it all stems from like Raquel being over all over Oliver which is like Lala did you give did you give her express
Starting point is 00:54:25 permission or did you not right right are you upset that she hooked up with Oliver or are you not you can't be like somewhere in the middle you literally told her to go and do it and then you're like treating her poorly because she did it no last night's episode was literally Raquel's villain origin story like she's standing outside that hotel room. Oh my God, that literally made me so sad. Ben was like bereft. He was like, that is so sad. It was so sad. And honestly, she should have left the next day.
Starting point is 00:54:52 I was so surprised that she didn't, but it's almost like she had drunk anxiety and she believed them about what they were saying, but they were like gaslighting her into saying she was crazy. She took her heels off in the hallway, literally who hasn't done that in Vegas. She ate food and she went to bed.
Starting point is 00:55:04 Like she made out with one guy who she knows like they work at the same facility like what's the big fucking deal no there's what was I missing that was so embarrassing and crazy and no wonder she had a panic attack with her drunk anxiety but that panic attack scene was so fucking real part of me thought for a moment that she had maybe already slept with Santa ball and so like all of this anxiety anxiety, and then this big secret caused her to have the panic attack. But I really don't believe they had slept together yet. But that was a real fucking scene.
Starting point is 00:55:32 And they literally gaslit her into a panic attack. And I think when they all saw she started to freak out, they decided to like let up a little bit. But then they go to dinner that night. And the whole conversation again with Charlie. Charlie is a real one. She's a real friend she's so funny she has brass balls that she you know what she speaks facts she wants to take on Lala Katie and Christina Kelly like and she's not even a cast member and she she's not doing it in like an attention-seeking way and I was just glad in
Starting point is 00:56:02 that moment this episode isolating it and judging isolated I was glad that Raquel had someone in her corner because like Lala just and James I was really glad that James said this in his interview because it's true Lala just doesn't like Raquel and so it's just not fair to invite someone on this really intimate girls trip and then be with your two best friends who you're literally going to be giggling with and slumber partying and showering with and having this one person that you're treating other. It's not nice. You know what the trip really needed?
Starting point is 00:56:30 Sheena. Yeah, well Sheena is the worst. Oh my God, she was being the woe-diest woe last night. Like so cringe. First of all, it really wasn't a divorce celebration party. No, when she said that I was like, what the fuck? But then it was a little bit. No, it was like a single girl's trip.
Starting point is 00:56:46 So another way of spinning that... No, but there was a Schwartz pinata. Yeah, I guess. You're right, you're right. But Sheena was just being like a shit-starting potster. Shit-starting. If she says, get your Schwartz back one more time, I'm going to vomit.
Starting point is 00:56:56 Cringe, cringe. I'm going to vomit. And I'm going to put it in a box and I'm going to send it to her house. I feel like vomiting. I literally was cringing, but cheeks clenched. I can't hear it again. Turdy Lou. Hold on. I'm just reading my notes because I had a lot. Oh, and so the overall, you know, takeaway from the episode was like, Lala, my God, is this hunchback who can't see
Starting point is 00:57:15 her own hunch. So she's allowed to fuck Raquel's boyfriend. And I know she doesn't want anyone to say it, but she was a mistress she's allowed to do both of those things nobody's allowed to be affected by it nobody's allowed to talk about it but she's afraid of Raquel being around someone's man and I know how that sounds given what we know but I'm just saying isolated episode in this moment like Lala was being insane last night and I feel like this whole time she's kind of been like so real that's why we really love her it's like yeah she doesn't have these crazy alliances to people like she just says what she feels no and like she speaks the facts and like she even says like a hard truth sometimes but then last night
Starting point is 00:57:52 she was saying i hate the label mistress because it doesn't get like put any accountability on him it's like no no he should be accountable but like you know by the way the word mistress doesn't put any accountability on Randall, but it doesn't change the fact that she was a mistress. Right, it kind of does. It means that Randall had a mistress, which is, like, a fucked up thing to do. No, and, like, Lala speaking for women, like, you don't speak for me, like, because you were being crazy.
Starting point is 00:58:18 No, and, like, I just, it really bothered me. It's like, okay, well, Randall's not on the show. How do you want us to hold his feet to the fire right now? Like, you're the one having this conversation like right like it somehow became a fight between raquel and lala and lala has no legitimate gripes against raquel katie does and i actually do agree like katie has been pretty gracious like inviting her on the trip and i do feel like they could work it out and get to a place but like this whole lala thing just like blew up and separated raquel from this group and it's so random yeah like in the battle between
Starting point is 00:58:45 Katie and Raquel Raquel is in the wrong in the battle between Lala and Raquel Lala's in the wrong but then Lala uses Katie's arguments against Raquel and it's like that's not what we're talking about right now not fair and then Christina Kelly is just there like eating it all up being a mean girl yeah it's it was such a hard episode to watch and I was so grateful for Charlie and I've never really particularly likened to Charlie like I I just I didn't think she was right for the show but you know what she spoke fucking facts last night I feel like when she first came on the show she tried a little too hard and it read wrong and now that she's not a full-time cast member she comes to the things because she's either friends with these people or she's not there
Starting point is 00:59:23 because she's not like she's just being herself and she has nothing to lose and only things to gain by saying stuff that's like funny and true and I think that's a good position to be in when Raquel and Charlie came out and said that they were leaving and they were like we're gonna go see Schwartz that was like the the dagger of this century like that's the only thing it's like do you not value your life no I know but you know what it's like this group has really like mocked her endlessly this whole weekend and yes in the Raquel and Katie scenario Raquel is wrong but like it was just such a good way to go it's like oh you've been like up my ass non-stop attacking me this whole trip Schwartz dagger like it was kind of the perfect exit and she had some good
Starting point is 01:00:06 lines last night but she's not sure of herself so she like shakes when she delivers her supposed jabs yeah it's hard but I'm glad to at least see her in this instance like standing up for herself and even if she's not the most eloquent like she's saying what we're all thinking which is like Lala how dare you say this about me like she but she's getting her 24 hours she should have said it in bed in Vegas but she was drunk and she felt so bad you know the feeling it's like I'm just so sorry like okay I yeah I'm a little miffed about this but I'd rather you not be mad at me than me be mad at you right now but it was like this elephant in the room yeah I don I don't, I wouldn't trust you with my man.
Starting point is 01:00:45 Well, I shouldn't have trusted you with my man. And by the way, you're right. Lala just doesn't like Raquel. And she really was just like extra pissed about the Oliver thing. Because when you stem, when you like follow that storyline, it's like James chose Raquel all those years ago. Like James and Raquel, James and Lala like have something weird. They do.
Starting point is 01:01:07 But don't you think if Lala ever called James one day and said like, I want to be your girlfriend, he would break up with whoever he was dating? Yeah. Yeah. But I just think like she feels this like protectiveness over James in a weird way. She does. They are ride or die for each other. They came on the show together.
Starting point is 01:01:22 Like they, and that's like a different alliance that throws another wrench. Then Raquel went to boys night. And it's like, in this instance, we are on Raquel's side. But it's like, Raquel has an enemy there, James, who's an ally of Lala. I was like, oh shit, Raquel. There's just traps everywhere.
Starting point is 01:01:41 So then boys night comes. Nothing really happens. Sheena's just being like pick me energy. And then the girls show up and the episode ends and people are like trying to glean like, oh my God, Sandoval knew she was coming. Look at his smile and look the way he's looking at her. I didn't really see anything like that was that telling. However, now looking at the episode through the lens of what we currently know, a lot of it is, you know, eerily foreshadowing. know a lot of it is you know eerily foreshadowing yes but I don't know at that time I really don't know if I would have said Raquel I wouldn't trust you with my man like I just think that was like a
Starting point is 01:02:13 low blow of Lala that happened to be true you know yes agreed on Lala but Katie said in her interview and this wasn't this was before she knew anything not edited she's only Raquel's only interested in like people her friends are interested in or people her friends have dated so that was a pretty astute observation but also yes you guys are like just swimming in the same fish tank all the time like where else is she supposed to go not saying that she should go to Sandoval but like um you know even like so they're filming at this like forlorn empty club and Oliver's there and they're single and he's cute like and he's also like a part of the Bravo universe like yeah like like she's not the type that's just gonna I guess that's because she's not the type that she's outgoing like the way
Starting point is 01:02:53 that Lala went up to those guys Raquel could never no could never but then I also felt like Raquel like Lala going up to these guys like she was just like working so hard to try and prove something because she got called out like two hours earlier for not being able to like land a man and honestly like I found her her behavior to be like a little desperate yeah it's true and then like they were at this like kind of weird fucking bar and they're like this is so fun like it wasn't no they did their best because the episode could have turned into like okay the two fun girls left and like the three boring ladies are like alone like have a seat like what are they doing in Lake Havasu the three of them they really did their best to look like they were having fun even though I wasn't buying it two of
Starting point is 01:03:35 them are sober right um what is going on and Christina Kelly is like in a relationship so it's only two single girls they did a good job you know they swam yeah yeah they got on the float you know they had like a group combo like we can't come off looking like losers everybody get in the lake yeah and then they went to that bar then I'm sure that's the last place they wanted to go on earth right no and then they like hug out with the guys on the boat next to them who were like forlorn as well like it was I'm just saying it could have been a lot sadder even Even when Charlie and Raquel were there, the trip felt bare bones and like random and weird.
Starting point is 01:04:09 And then once they left and they're doing the pinata, it was even worse. Even worse. And when Charlie and Raquel were there, they only went to dinner. Like, well, Charlie and Raquel went out, which I loved for that. Right, right.
Starting point is 01:04:21 That was cute. It's so crazy because like the scandal notwithstanding like I would weirdly be like riding for Raquel like I actually thought she really held her own in last night's episode and she was unequivocally wronged by these girls like they were bullies they were hypocrites but now knowing what we know how do we move forward for real because I'm like I am not on everyone else's team yeah I agree I'm just I'm just going to let the season play out. I don't know how I could ever get to, I couldn't ever get to a place where it's like,
Starting point is 01:04:49 we went from this to a seven month affair with Sandoval that I would ever possibly understand. I know. But I said last week, like, I have no idea who Raquel is. We all just thought she was a dumb bitch. Like maybe she's just like this evil plotting person. I don't know who she is still. She doesn't know know who she is she literally said the same thing in the episode it was so sad oh my god and the stuff about like James and her parents and it made me really sad
Starting point is 01:05:14 because I I feel like it finally made sense like why they broke up and why she was still so devastated that they broke up because it's like she would have wanted to be with James and marry him like she got engaged to him but you cannot stay with someone who would say such things about your parents. She broke up with him because she had to, not because she wanted to. Right. And like, that's heartbreaking.
Starting point is 01:05:31 And then that person is in another relationship in six weeks. Yeah, no, it's, that was shocking. Your dad is miserable because he's married to your fat mom. Like I, my jaw hit the floor.
Starting point is 01:05:42 James is the fucking worst. I know. And then it's like, that's the James who sends like delivering like you know bangers yeah I know later in the episode like he is the worst a lot of human being yeah yeah it's just been a great like this episode this episode was a wrench it was I I enjoyed it though I enjoyed I enjoyed I enjoyed the conflicting feelings i thought i would like die because you know what sometimes things aren't and never will i condone what they did by the way
Starting point is 01:06:10 but sometimes things are not so linear black and white yeah um i thought last night's watch happens live was going to be like tea spilled because every time one of them goes on a podcast it's like ttt katie gave nothing i was like and she someone asked her a question that was like really good. She was like, we'll have to wait to the reunion. Like come on. And it's like,
Starting point is 01:06:28 if Anna's asking you, it means you're allowed to say, I feel like Danny Pellegrino was like, this is bullshit. Yeah. There was nothing, not a drop. Honestly,
Starting point is 01:06:35 I stayed up so late to watch cause I got home late. Cause I was out and I was pissed. I was like 30 minutes of sleep that I didn't get. Yeah. It was useless. There was nothing. If you haven't seen it yet, you don't need to watch it.
Starting point is 01:06:44 Like it was really giving nothing. Yeah. So that's your Pump Rules recap. That was your episode. Tomorrow is our last episode of the week. I'm going to miss you guys over the weekends. But love y'all. Thank you so much for listening to The Toast,
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