The Toast - Jaxon Claud Original Recipe: Monday, April 17th, 2023

Episode Date: April 17, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good morning, Millennials, and welcome back to the Toast. Happy Monday, which should be, eh, but it ain't. And you're not listening to last week's episode because that's exactly how you started last Monday's episode. Did I? Happy Monday, it should be, eh, but it ain't because Jax is here. Oh my God, I guess like a pattern of mine is being overjoyed to see you. A pattern of yours is being consistent. I'm nothing if not consistent.
Starting point is 00:00:24 So I think that's a good thing, but no, today is the date I'm gonna say April 17th April 17th ding ding and Jackson Claude are back together is it April 17th 2021 because it feels like it with Jackson Claude back in the New York studio were we in this studio in 2021? I meant 2022. No, we were in this studio in 2021. It could be either. These years, they've just flown. The days are long,
Starting point is 00:00:50 but the years are short. It actually has been a really long time since we've been in New York podcasting together, not since December. And I do go back. I go back to December
Starting point is 00:00:58 all the time. Okay, guys, Jax is back in studio. It's like no time has passed. Life is good. Nothing's changed. We're still sisters You live here I don't live here
Starting point is 00:01:09 But we can pretend I know I'm just like I feel like I'm cosplaying Like back when I was truly happy Oh Yeah That's beautiful Turdy Well I'm happy to be here
Starting point is 00:01:19 It's exciting to be in New York I know And I'm excited to be back on the toast I've really missed you guys I really enjoyed your Friends and Family Week. Some episodes I watched longer than others. But what's so crazy is my favorite part of the show, even when I'm doing the show, but especially as a viewer.
Starting point is 00:01:34 Same. Is the time before the Fast Five. Same. And as a toaster from last week, like as a former toaster. Right, right. Giving FTE. I think we need to expand on that segment of just like pre-fast five nonsense chit chat i completely agree when i go back home and like
Starting point is 00:01:52 watch the episode of the day i pretty much stop when the fast five starts like i i love to hear us catching up and i'm curious and i think people tune in they used to tune in for the fast five now they tune in i don't know what they're tuning in for. I just want to say, we will never stop doing the Fast Five. Ever. Because the Fast Five is the reason why there's a show on days when we have nothing to do. The Fast Five keeps the show going on. Daily.
Starting point is 00:02:13 And I don't want to slam it. No, me neither. Because it's important to us. And it's the foundation in which we built this business. I just want to highlight some of our other amazing segments. And the segment where we just do nonsense chatter is always my favorite segment especially like after a long weekend with a guest host like I just really want to hear about them I want to hear their dynamic with turdy yeah and that was my favorite part then I like saw the
Starting point is 00:02:34 stories in the description I was like oh but I also don't know if that's because I'm like hate pop culture yeah totally you're kind of like a hater yeah have you been drinking haterade no but I think I'm just really desensitized and overexposed to it and sometimes the stories are not giving but then every once in a while scandal there's this story of a century of a century and that makes it all worth it and today every week of watching that show yeah every day Every day of doing the fact, you know, keeping up with these people for 10 years. It makes it all worth it. And today, while we don't have like a knockdown drag out story, we have really good stories because it was Coachella over the weekend.
Starting point is 00:03:13 There was big Scandival. You don't have to dread the fast five today. No. And then, of course, the the drama of the weekend was last night's Netflix fiasco, which we did both watch the Love is Blind reunion. We're going to talk about it. But what we're going to talk about more is the Netflix of it all the tech I mean the toast would never that's all I'll say yeah Chris Rock would never I thought that was interesting too we'll talk about that as well our first story is the Netflix saga of last night's
Starting point is 00:03:39 never-ending torture fest that was their attempt at a live reunion we shall discuss and then also just like content recap at the end yeah lots of books lots of tv was consumed by your garleys this weekend yeah so we will share and then i've gotten so many nice messages from everyone because i've been out for a couple shows with like an air of mystery around air of mystery and i still will explain when i'm ready i'm not ready to talk or share yet. I need a little more time. But I'm here and I'm podcast ready. So like I still want to do the show and I'll get to it.
Starting point is 00:04:14 I just, today's not the day. Totally fine. I just need more time. But I see all your messages and I really, I appreciate everyone's patience and just prayers. And everyone is so sweet. And I really appreciate it. Thank you. I appreciate it too. We're so similar. What is so sweet and I really appreciate it thank you I appreciate it too we're so similar what do you appreciate I just appreciate everyone I'm just
Starting point is 00:04:30 like in an appreciative mood are you appreciative that they're like loving turdy's family and friends you know I love family and friends you know it's like my time to shine yeah but it's so much harder than doing just like the regular toast like one being the stories and the ads girl it's just like there's no room for turny to like express herself you know yeah and it's not the same not podcasting with you it's like we're so natural we're just like you know we're like japanese joinery we just fit and i love getting to catch up with everyone and i'm so appreciative for everyone who came last week i literally had asked some people like three days notice and everybody really like moved
Starting point is 00:05:06 stuff around and I was really appreciative and it was like really great guests, which is always good for the toast growth, reaching new audiences. We love, we love. But there's truly nothing like a Jackson Cloud original recipe. And that's what we're here to deliver today. It's not delivery. It's Jackson Cloud original recipe. Yum.
Starting point is 00:05:22 But you know, I kind of wish it was delivery. Afterwards. What are we going to have for what? I kind of wish it was delivery. Afterwards. What are we going to have for lunch? Oh, we're back to that. We finally get to have this conversation together, not parallel. I know. What do you think?
Starting point is 00:05:31 What do you like to have for lunch around here? Around here, I really have two options. I go for a warm bowl or a nice wrap. I love a warm bowl. I know. I get a warm bowl. And like a new place opened by our studio with warm bowl options,
Starting point is 00:05:42 like right, right before you moved. So you really haven't even gotten a chance to explore the menu no i haven't and i have an expert here you should open a restaurant of warm bowl called turdy's warm bowls turdy's warm bowl i'll take you to the place after like i can show you they do because i have such a bizarre order but it's also really simple easy to memorize yeah and they know me and they love me. They do love you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:07 One woman in particular. I think like the first time I ordered from her, she was so shook that I didn't want any sauce. I think this place is like known for their cool, different like aioli dressings. Well, bowls come with sauces. Yeah. And she was like, no sauce. And I said, no sauce. And she's like, so no sauce.
Starting point is 00:06:21 And I said, yeah, like no sauce. And she was like, okay, no sauce. I'm like, yeah, no sauce. And then we just kind of bonded after that. And now she's my best friend. how you know opposite to track because Ben is the king of sauces Ben is the king of sauces actually last night every once in a while we order wolf and lamb and if you don't know what that is it is like probably the nicest of like two kosher steakhouses in the city it's extremely expensive because kosher meat is expensive and then on top of delivery it's like oh you're getting a ten dollar item delivery so like when you order delivery like there's always a premium but like when you're ordering wolf and lamb it's insane
Starting point is 00:06:54 because we order filet mignons and they're so expensive and then it's like oh two hundred dollar delivery fee every once in a while we do it and i really wanted it on passover but they were closed for passover so we just like kind of, we just went, we had like a crazy expensive dinner last night. And Ben sits down at the table with our perfectly cooked filet mignons and he runs to the fridge and grabs like four different sauces. And I'm like, this is literally like a $60 steak.
Starting point is 00:07:15 What the fuck do you need your trash, craft, sweet baby rays on this gorgeous steak? Like it's meant to be, not to be like, you know, like a foodie, but like, that's when people say like you're going to the best omakase in the world like you don't need soy sauce and that's right i do disagree i do too like zach always says the best french fry doesn't need ketchup and that's why your husband is smarter than you because i completely agree oh my god no oh i never have ketchup i thought you were about to like drag him no i never have ketchup with a
Starting point is 00:07:41 mcdonald's french fry you're no it's so wrong. Should we have McDonald's? Ooh. I don't know. I'm like so clean these days. It hurts. But you know what? Part of being clean, and I feel like Kourtney Kardashian is always saying this, is like every now and then like eating the most vile trash. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Well, you know what? Or we could get like warm bowls with McDonald's fries. You know what? That's balanced. And I love that. Yeah. Yeah. Because I don't want to eat like a.
Starting point is 00:08:05 A filet of fish. A McPlant. Yeah. Yeah. Because I don't want to eat like a. A filet of fish. A McPlant. Yeah. We've already discussed how it's like kind of toxic. Literally. But fries are fries. Fries are fries.
Starting point is 00:08:13 I love. Should I. Fries with the strides. Should I order it now? Or like then it won't be warm. No. Okay. Then we'll sit here like trying not to eat. And then like.
Starting point is 00:08:21 We'll get drunk. And then the whole studio will smell like McDonald's. It'll be so good. Back to what I was saying. Whatever the good guys. Talking about food good guys talking about food i know new episode of the good guys drop today isn't it crazy like the good guys are like literally becoming the biggest podcast in the world they had tata mojo on does that affect your relationship with ben that's a really good question because two things about me is like i'm extremely like toxic competitive self-centered but i also like really love Ben. You're a supporting wife. I really am so actually no the two things can be true like I'm actually and the thing is
Starting point is 00:08:50 it's a TNN production so a win for Ben is a win for me. It's a feather in everyone's hat but like when he gets like Tana. No when he got like Hilary Duff and like was in People Magazine in their episode literally got like millions of downloads like yeah like that was hard. Is there a guest that they could get that would just put you over the edge? That's a good question. I mean, of course, like Taylor Swift, but that's not happening. Trust and believe. But like someone attainable that they could get.
Starting point is 00:09:11 Yeah. That would like kill me. That's a good question. Who am I like obsessed with? Like Kacey Musgraves, Luke Combs, like they would sooner come on toast. Like that's not. Yeah. That's unattainable for them.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Yeah. Like a Kardashian. Or someone from Friends. That wouldn't kill me, honestly. Some of the Friends characters, and this is actually something I've been wanting to talk about, have been acting so wild on social media lately. There must be like an agency, I'll tell you in a second, there must be like a marketing agency that not a lot of people know about. And like new celebrities have been discovering them and using them because they're all using the same tactics and it started with Meghan Trainor and now the Jonas Brothers are in on it and Courtney Cox is in on it too what do they do make insane TikToks really high quality like high production value but like very on trend getting other TikTokers other celebrities to the point where it's so inauthentic
Starting point is 00:10:04 but it performs so well it's so viral and it's having like major impact on these people's careers music wise or just like celebrity wise I find it so weird and annoying like Courtney Cox has like recently started to do that she's like partnering up with all these tiktokers and like it's just annoying like I don't like it I'm sorry yeah it's like ruining tiktok I'm sorry it's ruining tiktok so you know what but you're i'm with i'm with the government did you go viral last night i did it was good stuff did you go viral i like checked after like 30 minutes after you posted it but i haven't checked today i did i did go viral i'm posted a tiktok and a reel that is millions and hundreds of thousands and you kind of like went viral within the swifties with that tiktok of like you oh and i did go viral it's kind of
Starting point is 00:10:42 been like a viral week for me did you you see I DM'd you a video? Like a Swifty account reposted that video. Oh, I didn't see. And I came about it organically. See, that's been like an interesting thing is I've been making kind of like niche content. Like I made this TikTok that went viral about Ben playing golf and it got like ripped off and put on all these golf pages and like, do not read the comments. They are so mean.
Starting point is 00:11:03 They call me so toxic. They're like, he needs to leave his bitch ass toxic wife mean. First of all, they call me so toxic. They're like, he needs to leave his bitch ass toxic wife. Like first of all, it was a joke. No, and it's like, in the comments, they think either you're having an affair with Elliot or Ben is having an affair with Elliot. And it's like, there's kind of like these conspiracy theories in the golf community about me and Ben,
Starting point is 00:11:19 but that's what happens. And then I made like niche Swifty content. Like it gets put on the Swifty pages. So yeah, I've kind of like, I'm three for three. That's the price of going viral. Now are you going viral on the Love is Blind pages? I am. It's very exciting.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Ben, it's actually Ben's idea, like creatively. And he was so like annoyed that like he didn't think of it himself. Well, he did. He was like, but you should do it. Yeah. And this is kind of the partnership creatively that we have. Right. That's like you supporting good guys.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Right. He supports my work. He television but like we were so panicked that the stream would start even though like it wasn't we were rushing rushing that was the most painful just useless hour of life yeah at first it was like fun and exciting because it was like 8 15 and i was texting you like, is it just me? Is it you? And the thrill kind of wore off extremely quickly. Yeah. And I ended up feeling annoyed.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Yeah. I started a book. And then I didn't feel bad about waiting. Because it's like, okay, that's a perfect thing to do while you're waiting. But then we both gave up and went towards succession. By the time I logged into HBO Max, the stream was up. And then the stream started for us on Netflix, but most people couldn't watch it.
Starting point is 00:12:30 And now they've said it will be up today by 12 p.m. Pacific time. So three o'clock. Like most people still haven't seen it. Wow. If only there was something to see. We watched it. We'll recap it. And just so you know, like if you weren't able to catch it,
Starting point is 00:12:40 like Godspeed. You'll be okay. But I have thoughts. Also, our chat was so funny last night. We were being so funny. We never do that. We never like. We're always watching shit at different times.
Starting point is 00:12:49 And we like we save it for the toast. But I'm actually glad we have that chat. So in case there's anything I need to remember about how I felt. Yes. Scroll. So maybe we should dive in because like now we're talking about it. Because we can't stop. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:58 Talking about it. Love is blind. We can't stop. And we won't stop. We need to get all of our singing in. Yeah, there was actually not a lot of singing last week, like with the guest co-hosts, maybe because I felt embarrassed. Do they sing?
Starting point is 00:13:11 Are they singers? Actually, Remy sings, and Snatchler loves a good Snatchler song. But I don't know. It wasn't the vibe. Yeah. I guess the Giggly Girlies aren't as musical. No, they're not. It's just like a weird thing about us.
Starting point is 00:13:24 Yeah. It's just kind of what makes us us we're the musical podcast but it's not like a thing that other podcasts do like they don't just like break out into song and that's kind of why we're so successful no no and that we love that about us but that's like not a normal thing is what i'm realizing but but why you know blend in when you were born with your friends depends on the friend truly depends on the friend like my friend Abe is very musical so yes maybe it's just like a family thing maybe well that's what I learned with my episode with Paige
Starting point is 00:13:56 DeSorbo like birthday buddies is a family thing she's like that's not a thing oh so like when I said we were she and I were birthday buddies she well I had said it on the toast too. And it turns out like her, we don't have the same birthday. It's November 4th. Yeah. She's just like someone who's constantly like celebrated all week on Instagram. And there was confusion. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:14 But I brought it up and she's like, I've never heard the term birthday buddy. I'm like, wait, what? Did you go to school? No, I'm like, that was a school thing. Literally my childhood. Yeah, you had to like do a project on your birthday buddy. You could choose any of them. Maybe it was just our niche like jewish day school curriculum
Starting point is 00:14:27 i think it should be part of you know the core universal yeah the universal curriculum of life who's your birthday buddy pick any of them and do a report yeah how do you think i know so much about jessica simpson how do you think i know so much about sally field the flying nun jackie i brought sally field you have to watch episode with page i know you were busy but like we literally had this conversation i literally can't wait I said you have the same like birthday week and now maybe if it was today I would have done my paper on Lamar Odom is he another birthday buddy of yours kind of a blessed day a blessed day oh happy day yeah a couple of Scorpios um Theo's birthday is coming up and like I uh must jump off a bridge yeah i did the math
Starting point is 00:15:09 recently shut the fuck up okay how do you want to celebrate i'll be here for it should we get all the like the stride guys together maybe get butter olive like the whole crew yes you know if i did ever throw theo birthday like i would ask the dog walkers i don't't know, like, Butters. I don't know their parents. But I would, like, ask. I would print out invitations and be like, can you pass these out to the crew? Slip them under the door. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:33 But I'm not having a birthday party. I don't need all the smelly dogs in my house. But, like, what would Theo want to do? Like, on his best day, where does he like to go? The beach? He would like to go to that walking path. Oh, my God. That's our place me and him yeah uh
Starting point is 00:15:46 that was before i got bruno we have vacationed um at this house many times that nearby has like this kind of a star like a nature path it's not even because it's not a path it's literally acres and you just walk and walk and there's bridges and the path is like less than two miles but it feels oh my god it is not jackie one time trying to make us walk the whole thing i wanted to die i tried to cut through the field and like literally ended up made it worse yeah i made it worse it's not two miles it's 25 i used to run it every day like pick me yeah okay theo but that's where theo would want to spend his birthday it's such a beautiful like maybe we go maybe we go let's see what the weather is we'll see yeah that's the it's like and it's really beautiful there's like creeks and bridges and streams and fields and trees yeah and benches
Starting point is 00:16:29 that i loved personally yeah that's where theo would like to spend his birthday that's beautiful where would bruno spend his birthday in the arms lot of um interests hobbies yeah he really does he's easy to please he loves adventure he's a man of many interests yeah but he'd also be happy in the bed and he as long as there's heat as long as there's heat Bruno did stay with me for like a couple days last week it was joyous yeah and the boys were getting along the boys were getting along Bruno um he actually hasn't stayed with me since he's been like an independent boy who doesn't need to sleep in the crate and who can walk around freely when there's no one home so this was the first time where he slept with us and I have to say it was probably one of the greatest displeasures of my life um you're wrong for that Bruno is the type of dog
Starting point is 00:17:24 who needs to sleep in your asshole like my god I couldn't get away from him fast enough and every time I would like push him or like honestly kick him like move right back up my ass I had never slept so poorly in my entire life it was like I said one of the greatest displeasures of my life okay well Bruno had a great time and that's all that matters Bruno felt loved Bruno didn't feel like he wasn't you know with his mama he didn't feel he was honestly like who's mama you know like he wasn't really interested he wasn't like really like talking about you or actually probably even thinking about you so it was totally fine and I did my job as an auntie and a caretaker
Starting point is 00:17:58 that he felt loved and I put his needs before mine letting him sleep in the bed but I would be remiss devastated and heartbroken if I didn't just at least acknowledge how it was one of the greatest displeasures of my life. Okay. Well, I just feel like then you and Bruno are just, like, not compatible sleepers. Because he and I are simpatico. Oh, my God. I actually never wanted to, like, commit animal cruelty more than I did in my life. Like, I wanted to kick him in the throat.
Starting point is 00:18:20 Like, he was so annoying. I'm sorry. I did. Because, like, one thing about me, like, I'll do anything for the dogs but like mess with my sleep like that is just like a no-no for me I can't listen to this anymore especially because like I got my hatch last week and I was like really wanting to like test it out and like Bruno like I was up with Bruno like I wasn't up with my hatch what do you think about Hatchio I'm obsessed like Ben is obsessed too I'm loving the nighttime routines and the morning routines I haven't taken advantage of the nighttime routines yet I didn't even know it was a thing
Starting point is 00:18:50 until Margo told me and I kept seeing this rise button I'm like no this rest button I'm like what is this for but these like 15 minute like sound baths and lighting techniques I'm obsessed I've never felt more rested honestly you're welcome yeah I don't feel like I was like against the hatches isn't one of those things it's just something I turned you on to oh you discovered the hatch for sure and do you have a code for the redheads no it's just hatch.co I'm just like promoting it oh we gotta get a code because like everyone was asking for one you know on some websites where they're like where'd you hear about this product say the toast the redheads oh sorry yeah yeah the redheads new episode dropped two weeks ago it's good stuff
Starting point is 00:19:25 thanks for letting us know well if you follow me on instagram you know i'm kidding i know and our next book is a snitch's choice and she chose i wonder why a book called the magnolia palace yeah that's kind of like a really weird thing for her to choose i don't know why she would have chosen that the magnolia palace but i think it's historical fiction, so I'm not complaining. That's so not counselor. I know. That's like the power of El Nolio. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:50 Now without. We have so much to discuss. Now without further ado. Now. You know what? Why don't you? Crunch? Hit it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Okay. Hold on. Actually, wait. Come here. You see? It says. It says munch on the soundboard. Okay.
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Starting point is 00:23:19 yeah you feel strongly about that sorry i just needed a snack on hand for what because i get hungry like but you're to eat on the podcast? If I get really hungry. Have you learned nothing? We'll take a break if you get hungry. We'll take a break? No like next ad break I could just push my mic out. Wow okay.
Starting point is 00:23:33 Like comes to New York and like forgets everything she knows. No because I was just thinking about like how hungry I am. That's fine. We haven't even gotten into the first story. Yeah. And I just feel like I get a pass. Like a pregnancy pass. I feel like we are like recording later. This is actually like we're recording when we would eat because you
Starting point is 00:23:48 were like busy this morning so when we would eat lunch we have missed a meal sort of and that's just like not something it's unacceptable it's unacceptable like you have to have a lot of small meals yeah like I won't you won't even know I'm eating if I decide to yeah you'll get like daggers for me but go for it wow judgy yeah yeah Yeah. Like one thing about me is like I put the A.V.I.T. of this show above all else. And like you kind of wanting to eat and like mess with the audio like that's actually a personal attack. OK. But do as you please do what's best for you.
Starting point is 00:24:18 Thank you. Our first story. Netflix is apologizing for the 75 minute Love is Blind season four reunion delay. We are incredibly sorry they say. So Love is Blind reunion was supposed to air live last night. Nobody needed it to be live. Nobody asked for it live. But I'm assuming Netflix is trying to get into live content.
Starting point is 00:24:36 Right. They just had the Chris Rock thing. But a live reunion is not something anybody needs. And we'll get into the reasons why. I agree. Later on. So 8 p.m. we all sit down to watch the show does not come on for 75 minutes now we're all on twitter netflix is posting some jokes
Starting point is 00:24:52 they even got like so desperate as to post a picture of Irina being like it'll be worth the wait so at 8 0 5 they said love is blind we will be late we're on at 8 15 you know what I was okay with that it actually worked better for my schedule no and like i understand this is like a big live event whatever i'm you know i work in tech so i understand these things happen and then at 8 15 nothing happened for an hour and they didn't say anything so everyone's wondering and it's like that to me is unacceptable to give no sort of vanessa lachey went live and just said who the fuck is following Vanessa Lachey I'm not but then I saw it you know through the
Starting point is 00:25:31 the through you page yeah through you know the internet did its thing and she said they're sitting there they're not speaking they're waiting you haven't missed anything we broke the internet uh we're still here. So are you trying to tell me that more people were trying to watch the Love is Blind reunion than we're trying to watch the Chris Rock special? I don't know. I personally can't believe that. I know. And I just feel like maybe they had better systems in place for Chris Rock because that
Starting point is 00:25:58 would have been so unacceptable. Like, right. Like, who's really the most pissed from Love is Blind? Just like the fans and the cast members like what are they gonna do their time is over but like if that had happened to Chris Rock like yeah it would have been really bad for everyone and he would have been so pissed so I'm not saying like they don't they they allowed this to happen but like that was not an option so then I guess at like 9 15 they just started to film and they were like we need we need to get
Starting point is 00:26:23 this filmed and we'll put it on Netflix at some point. But then for some people, they were able to watch what they were filming live. And that included us. So I think they started filming. And they're like, we'll work on getting it up as we're filming. And maybe like 15 minutes into their filming, you could start watching it live. And all you had to do was rewind. Right.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Which is what we did. Which is what we did. And maybe, I don't know if it was because we had waited so long and there was so much hype that like only you know you're set up to fail with that much like excitement and hype after all this but I found the reunion to be positively dreadful um I guess it just really highlighted because it wasn't edited to make things like quick and concise it really it really highlighted how beyond average and mundane these people are like when you think about live reunions which my only point of reference is like the Real Housewives of Miami these are like professional reality stars well no even still it was their first season and
Starting point is 00:27:19 it obviously didn't go well because they never did something like that again but it was kind of amazing like it was chaos yeah but there are a lot of things where a live format is great yes people just like talking about their feelings that needs to be edited no especially because they found a group of people who are so long fucking winded Marshall Zach Paul also it's like they're there to talk about their feelings which always just takes longer and it's the more bushes to beat around right and like we like kind of like don't care you know no but when they first cut to like I think was Marshall that like they were catching up with everyone and they said hi to Marshall and his answer was too long and I was like this is why we edit yeah they actually really it was so obvious how badly they needed editors because everyone was so long-winded
Starting point is 00:28:06 but I will say on the other hand there were a lot of people who without a splice of editing came off really well yeah and were really impressive I thought Chelsea was so well spoken and impressive she didn't stutter she didn't like every sentence meant something of course there were there was the like crew that was abound. And then there were some of the feelings people who were talking in circles. But I also felt like it gave a lot of people the opportunity to shine.
Starting point is 00:28:32 And if you can do well live like that, like that's really impressive. That's very fair. I felt like Chelsea and Kwame as a couple probably came out on top. Yes. They just, they were so in sync with each other. Everything that they were saying was exactly
Starting point is 00:28:45 you know I felt very good about them yeah and I was the type of person who was completely shocked that they said yes like I was confused that Kwame was interested in Chelsea because the whole time he seemed like he literally would rather be anywhere else than by her side and I guess it's what the feel like the feelings of a lot of the fans were and they addressed that head-on and he was just like you literally saw a drop in the bucket of what our relationship was and you know what there's proof in the pudding they are still married and they seemed really happy say that and I'm like sure but we still saw what we saw like those moments okay they're not a hundred percent of the moments that you had but like we saw them yeah and this was the
Starting point is 00:29:19 first time where I felt like oh I was bamboozled and that is not we did not see an accurate representation of their relationship I also didn't really understand why all this effort was clearly put into the reunion live they had a live studio audience they did like a bunch of stuff and why they chose to have Jackie and Josh participate via zoom the day before I feel like that love triangle was probably one of the biggest dramas of the season. Maybe they didn't want to come. But they don't really have a choice, you know? It's like, bravo, you know, you come. Really?
Starting point is 00:29:50 They made it seem to Irina like she had a choice and she chose to come and they were, it was not a good showing for Irina. I don't know. You know me. Her voice was so trembly and like she made no good points. She just like apologized. She made some good points. I, if anything, it was good for her because like apologized some good points I if anything it was
Starting point is 00:30:05 good for her because I actually felt bad for her because she like was clearly so nervous she also looked amazing she did which is always great it counts for something but I felt like as best as she could try to explain herself without being like listen I did those things and I'm sorry for them yeah um there were some explanations in there that I understood. Me too, actually. And maybe because he was just pissing me off. I found Zach to be like, hold a little bit more weight as a villain than he was.
Starting point is 00:30:33 He was a victim, but he was also giving villain energy. And I saw it during the show and I think like the way everyone was coming for Irina and then like he just like kept going and he just showed his, you know, he showed under the hood of his mind. Like when he came out and like really thought he did something and he was like I feel like you came on this show to be famous which is like okay doesn't everyone I don't feel
Starting point is 00:30:53 I mean one yes to some degree if you're going on reality tv like you're comfortable with the idea of being known but if she really wanted to be famous she would have made their relationship seem like something that wasn't she wouldn't have asked to go home before Mexico. That context was really important. She wouldn't have ended the relationship as prematurely as she did because she kicked herself off the show. If fame was really that motivating for her, she would have hid her feelings, made it to the altar and said no. A hundred percent.
Starting point is 00:31:17 I completely agree. And I think the context, her adding that she had actually asked to go home, she knew immediately when she saw him, it wasn't the right fit, adds a lot of color too. And I'm sure they convinced her, don to go home she knew immediately when she saw him it wasn't the right fit um adds a lot of color too and I'm sure like they convinced her you know don't go home and I'm sure she convinced herself you know what maybe love can grow from this like I like I loved him in the pods I didn't get that feeling when I saw him but people have started off with worse and ended up together so I understand wanting to go to Mexico and giving it a shot I don't think I would have behaved in the way that she did. But like she was clearly like very awkward, very uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:31:49 She was 25 at the time. And doesn't know how to like say these hard things that she's thinking and feeling. So she just like becomes defensive. Shuts down. And rude. Yeah. But I just find it funny. So how he literally was like, you know, you came on the show to be famous in the audience.
Starting point is 00:32:03 The audience was giving Jerry Springer. Oh, shut up. And he's like, you know, and if you really want to see the receipts, I'm not going to bring receipts. But if you want to see them, go to my Instagram, which I did, by the way. And there was probably like 10 slides of like notes app story. And I'm sorry, I could not read it. It was so long and there were so many typos.
Starting point is 00:32:21 I read it. Oh, what was the thesis was? It was a really nice story about like the power of forgiveness and giving grace because he gave that to his mother um and she had been like very disappointing over like during his childhood and like in and out of I saw she struggled with addiction right but the moral of the story was that at one point he just decided like I'm I forgive you and and she got uh sober and was able to be there for him and they had a few really good years and moments together that they wouldn't have had if he hadn't given
Starting point is 00:32:50 that grace and forgiveness so give grace and give forgiveness that was that was a receipt okay that's not a receipt and he really was not giving like grace or forgiveness energy um and he doesn't have to he doesn't have to said that instead of being like go check my instagram he could have been like told the story and give well no no no like this story would have been the whole reunion but he could have and and he could have walked the walk in that with irena like yeah what irena did was not nice but like you could it's been a year you're happily married right she's obviously come out on the bad side of things you could have given grace and gave forgiveness I just want to say like I went to everyone's instagrams last night just to like see what people have been posting and to
Starting point is 00:33:29 be honest based on the content if there was anyone who just based on their content who I thought came on the show to get famous it would be Zach so I just felt like he was being really hypocritical and like kind of loved that he was the victim and he was a victim like she was wrong but he leaned into the victim mentality so hard and whenever people lean into it too hard like they push a little too far I start to turn and I felt that way a few times last night with a few different people for me that was Zach like he was bothering me too it's like so clear he won he's there with his wife like they look so happy and she like the crowd was like literally booing her and he just kept kind of like kicking a person when she was down and I know he has every right to because like she was really mean to him like for sure
Starting point is 00:34:04 but he came out on top he has the wife he he has every right to, because like she was really mean to him, like for sure. But he came out on top. He has the wife, he had the audience. And I just felt like he was so happy to be the victim that he weirdly turned himself into the villain. That's what keeps happening in every show. But I also felt like Micah was leaning a little too heavily into being a victim with Paul. You know, you were texting me that
Starting point is 00:34:21 and I actually don't agree. Because I need to look back at my notes, but I don't know that she would have said yes, first of all. And I like that she explained why she needed him to go first, because she needed to know that if he said yes, it was like not because she said yes. And you know what? I was so confused when she did that. And then I was like, maybe she didn't want to be embarrassed.
Starting point is 00:34:40 But her explanation made complete sense to me. Yeah, just based on their every relationship is different. And like if she's going to be married to him forever she needs to know it's because you know that it was his choice and she probably felt like he was like having doubts but when I watched it like I didn't feel like she was going to say yes I just felt like she didn't want to be the villain nobody wants to be the villain but like at the end of the day like these are your real lives and this is a real marriage so someone has to say no if it's not right and then Zach comes in and says other people have said that like you were never talking about
Starting point is 00:35:04 getting married and when we did see their relationship on tv like it was not a serious relationship okay I just want to say also we only saw what we saw what Zach said was so confusing because he kept changing what he said and what he ended was like I spoke to a lot of other women whose opinion it was was that you didn't want to marry Paul that's what he ended ended up saying, which is the most vague thing. So what the fuck? She wasn't even friends with really anyone except Irina. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:29 So it's like, what are you talking about? And by the way, it turned out that Irina was the one who was saying that and they haven't spoken since Mexico. Right. So it's like, you really don't know anything. I felt like Zach was, again, trying to like defend another victim
Starting point is 00:35:41 and he was just turning himself into the villain. At first he said, a lot of the other other women said you said you weren't going to marry Paul and that's like oh and then it turns out Irina said in Mexico she didn't think that they would end up getting married the fuck does she know yeah and maybe she said that because she was in love with Paul right but also then with like they tried to make this Irina Paul thing a storyline which is not a storyline on Paul's end whatsoever like what Irina thinks and feels about him has nothing to do with him and so they were trying to get like Paul to apologize for some flirty behavior going on and it's like Micah kind of dug into that and it's like girl after a
Starting point is 00:36:13 conversation with Kwame like I know she should just be quiet yeah because that conversation with Kwame we could like say they needed closure no that was crazy that was just inappropriate drunk you know touching like what could have been did I make it and that's normal for humans but just let's just call it what it was let's call it shady yeah no of course um I did think like when Zach popped in to like kind of defend Paul it was because like Nick and Vanessa were like non-stop asking him follow-up questions to like him saying that she wasn't nurturing well why didn't you say it well that's not really something you say it's like it's
Starting point is 00:36:49 a it's a trait somebody naturally has and you don't want to force them to become something that they're not but don't you feel like they kind of like wouldn't let up yeah and on that point I disagreed with the consensus that if you're breaking up with someone over like a feeling that you have that they're not this or that I don't think you owe it to them to say that because I agree one you could be completely wrong that could just be how you see them you don't see Micah's nurturing but she might be nurturing like you're not the end-all be-all judge but if you have that like weird gut feeling about someone I don't think you need to explain that to them when you're breaking up like you you should have a conversation about breakups but I don't think that's something that needed to be said to her face and what so she
Starting point is 00:37:27 could act more maternal like he nurturing was the word well maternal nurturing like because he didn't see her as the mother um he didn't get that vibe from her but he also said like maybe I just didn't bring that out in her right which is really fucking fair he was very diplomatic because what he said like could have been taken, if you interpreted it just at face value, as so fucking rude. Like, I didn't see her. It is really, it is rude. It's a harsh thing to say about someone.
Starting point is 00:37:53 And in a normal relationship, you can think that and feel it. But I don't even think you should tell someone that. If you're breaking up with them regardless, like, you can harbor some reasons, things you think about, weird things you think about them without telling them. But they're on a TV show. So he had to tell us. Right. And it was really.
Starting point is 00:38:09 Awkward. Awkward and mean. Yeah. I just, I honestly, like, for me, the loser of the reunion was Zach. Like, shut up. And, like, his Instagram is so thirsty. Like, property brothers. Like, he's obsessed.
Starting point is 00:38:22 Like, I'm telling you. You literally hate him. And with the singing, some part, one, yeah, somebody came on the show to get famous and i really don't think it was irina i think it was fucking zach yeah like just look at his instagram okay with like the proselytizing about forgiveness like i can't while acting like the least forgiving person on the planet yeah um now let's talk about jackie josh and marshall again so annoying that we had this like turnt zoom interview but they do look really happy and I didn't realize it's actually been a full year I'm glad that they delay it so long so we can have some results proof and they look really happy and they're definitely better suited for one another but getting some um insight into like what went down was really interesting and like I don't know
Starting point is 00:38:58 Marshall has just been kind of playing this like you know victim but not victim like sweet angel like this whole time and he was with the bad bad Jackie and I feel like we got a peek you know victim but not victim like sweet angel like this whole time and he was with the bad bad Jackie and I feel like we got a peek you know beneath the the surface of like what really went down and it's like clearly here's what happened but like nobody wanted to say Vanessa Lachey saw her career flashed in front of her eyes she called him gay Jackie called him gay that was in text messages it was in text messages that were leaked in a group chat she's like his dick is really big but like he never wants to fuck and he's like not aggressive at all and like she wants like a guy who's gonna throw her around did she say g-a-y um i think she actually used a worse word in the chat
Starting point is 00:39:33 in the chat some words were blurred out i don't know if she said exactly gay by the way you can say gay jackie i'm saying did i'm not saying because it's a bad word i'm saying because did she say it did she write out gay? Yeah. I don't know. I have to go look again. She was saying like soft. She was saying beta.
Starting point is 00:39:52 She was either alluding to gay. And so she, they were like joking around and she was like, oh, well you don't want to fuck. Like maybe you're gay. And he's like, well,
Starting point is 00:39:58 you have a big jaw. Maybe you're a man. And he made it very clear to say he didn't use a derogatory word, which I think we all know is, you know, the word. I'm certainly not going to say it. No, I'm not going to. A letter. A letter, T.
Starting point is 00:40:11 Got it. So I think like she tried to make it seem like he maybe said that. And then he was like, I did not say that. But I just think it was a really interesting insight. And it's like, I think what we saw with Jackie and Marshall is not at all really how it was. I think there was like another side to Marshall. And god did I despise him last night he could not get a straight answer but now it's still a shade would like ask a follow-up he's like well I'm getting there it's like oh we only have so much time right we're live when I was watching the
Starting point is 00:40:37 show and Marshall and Jackie were going down and it's like I know Marshall that Jackie's like wronger than Marshall but I like her more than Marshall. So I'm team Jackie. And then last night I felt vindicated because I feel like she was just like true to herself. She got with Marshall. It wasn't a match. They had some words along the way, but it wasn't completely one sided. No.
Starting point is 00:41:04 And then she gave Josh a shot and that was the right fit for her. And I believe her that she didn't cheat. And the thing about him wanting to propose to someone else and here's what's like people can't even see their own hypocrisy marshall's so upset because even if it wasn't cheating even if the next day she went and spoke to josh it's like wow you could really just go and be with another man like right after we break up and it's like okay so jackie and marshall broke up then that other girl what's her name Keisha who I don't even she wasn't a major player Keisha texted him and they they started to get together because he was like well what else am I doing sort of thing it's like that's the exact
Starting point is 00:41:34 mentality that Jackie had when she went with Josh like you did the exact same thing but you can't even see yourself yes I don't know if it was just everyone pissing me off or um it was like a really bad reunion but I just felt like everyone who had been villainized for good reason. Like I just really saw their side. And I think the people who became victims were so. So who were the victims of these like villains actions were so like living for people on social media. Like having sympathy for them that they leaned in so hard to the point where it's like calm down. It's not that big of a deal.
Starting point is 00:42:02 Yeah. That I started seeing them as the villains. That's how I feel overall and I also feel like each of the couples that are married are so strong yeah and I really believe in them I couldn't even tell you who I think is the strongest I mean obviously Tiffany and Brett but everyone was like up on Tiffany and Brett's level last night yes and the way Tiffany and Zach like I know they're so simpatico Chelsea and Kwame like were just one person. They were like a united front.
Starting point is 00:42:28 Yeah. He defended her. He supported her. And you love to see that. And he really said everything right. And it didn't sound like a line. Scripted. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:36 Yeah. No, he said everything right. I want to apologize to Chelsea. I want to apologize to Chelsea's family. And I wanted to apologize to Chelsea and Kwame for not believing. For doubting. Yeah. We were doubters.
Starting point is 00:42:45 Non-believers. Non-believers. It was a terrible reunion, having said that. I think, you know, Nick Lachey must have watched last season's reunion where he quite literally said four words. And this time he got more in there. He said eight. This one, it is really Vanessa's thing.
Starting point is 00:43:01 And like Vanessa is so invested. And I feel like she's getting better. And she definitely cares a lot and she keeps up with everything you know and all the texts leaked and all the TikToks she keeps up with it all which I feel like is the sign of like it's a she cares um but it's just there's something about it that's not working she just puts a lot of herself into it when it's like hosting you gotta take yourself out a little bit there were just like too many personal moments for her yeah but I think they feel really personal and close to the show yeah the video of the bridesmaid and Paul is I had seen it and some of the other stuff she was talking about that like rumors that Barbara was a hired actress I hadn't seen any of that so I was like wow you're really
Starting point is 00:43:40 deep in it most of us are just like watching the show and moving on with our lives right but I did see Paul and the bridesmaid and it made me chuckle but I didn't think there was anything there no I could see well I could see it being like a hey and I could also see it being like get out of my way thanks I also feel like Paul just based on his energy last night like deeply regretted participating in this experiment like he kind of just came out with no wife some people like really like did not like him. They thought he was the villain in the relationship because he was the one who said no.
Starting point is 00:44:09 He like had to answer for all these personal things last night. I just feel like he was like hating every minute of it. Yeah, but I don't think he's a bad guy. Like I don't think he deserves that. I think he like went through the process. I think he went into it open-eyed. Open-hearted. Open-minded.
Starting point is 00:44:22 Went through the entire thing and came to the conclusion of no yeah meanwhile i thought it was so fucking weird when marshall said like he wanted to get to the altar with jackie like just to that's thirsty yeah like that's what people do that's what they were accusing irena of right like that was so weird to me it's like you guys literally hate each other why do you still want to stand on the altar to have that chance to make that decision in that moment like there's no decision right he's like i was robbed of that there's no decision to make it's a big fat no no for me like i like hate marshall yeah marshall and zach like hate you because they both were like living for being the victims yeah i know
Starting point is 00:44:56 you really hate zach desperately but i'm happy for him and bliss like they actually looked really happy and like to hear her dad came around did to hear that Kwame's mom came around. To me, it's not a red flag when someone's parent is like so doubtful. It's like this person raised you, gave up everything for you, sacrificed everything for you, and you're going to do something so crazy.
Starting point is 00:45:14 And you know what? For Kwame and for Bliss, it worked out. The way my favorite character on this season was Bliss's dad. I know. Because he was just speaking facts. And I also felt like when he met Zach, he went into it semi-open-minded
Starting point is 00:45:27 as much as you could be given the weirdness of the situation. And Zach was a freak. Yup. Zach was a freak. He said, you fish? No. Do you golf?
Starting point is 00:45:34 No. Okay, so we don't have much in common. And then Zach starts talking about the penal code. Right. And he's just like flexing like something that nobody cares about. And it's like, shut up. Yeah, no, it was a bad showing i
Starting point is 00:45:45 think it was more so her it wasn't her dad doubting the process he was just like this is who you chose it's a fair question but there's obviously a lot more to zach and i think bliss's father has seen that now and i'm happy for them but i didn't find fault in in his reaction me neither and i didn't find fault in kwame's mom like not participating in the charade no like it sucks now that they've been married for a year and seem to have a good marriage like she wasn't at their wedding but like it's okay it's okay because it was like televised and fake fake wedding yeah but I did think it was interesting that Paul and Micah um dated briefly after the show yeah well because that's always the thing it's like maybe we're not ready to get married but I do love you and yeah why do we have to stop
Starting point is 00:46:24 like Raven and SK from last season but like then he cheated on her so oh but it then it didn't work out of natural causes yeah I feel like this show is really good but like I need them to like change a few things like I need them to cut the episodes down like I need them there's no reason this needed to be 14 episodes I feel like every episode we saw the same people having the same conversations but like with different people you know yeah it was just regurgitating the same I'm not sure but like in different words and they give us all that crap but then there was a conversation between Chelsea and Micah with the dogs and about and it seemed juicy and like why isn't that in the show we saw so many filler conversations but that one which is actually substantial because they never got to
Starting point is 00:46:59 finish their conversation in Mexico we don't see also it's not fair that like Irina DM'd Bliss saying you dodged a bullet and got so much heat for it but the Jackie said it literally said the same thing they saw Zach and everyone was like oh he's a freak uh Bliss dodged a bullet right but only Irina got slack for that yeah and in my opinion Irina dodged a bullet so yeah so that's Love and Spline season four yeah it was a fun ride it was a fun ride it was fun to be a part of it it was i'll do it again yeah me too i didn't do it last season it wasn't a great season i mean the thing is when i was on the netflix page and i was like scrolling through
Starting point is 00:47:35 the first season i forgot first season was so good like i know we think about lauren and cameron and they're amazing but like all those other freaky ass couples. Jessica and Mark. That girl Stacy who was like the wellness coach. Like she was like a freak. Like there was so much good stuff. Yeah. It will never be as good as it was that first season. Yeah. How many couples got married in season three?
Starting point is 00:47:58 Can you look it up? I honestly have no idea. It was. No. Nick and Danielle. No. Was that a different season? Oh., no, Nick and Danielle. No. Was that a different season? That's a different one.
Starting point is 00:48:07 Oh, okay, that wasn't Jared and Diana. No, that's season two. Well, there's none from season two because they both got divorced. Right. Two marriages in season three, and what were their names? And no, are they still together?
Starting point is 00:48:19 What's the success rate right now? Because it's 50% with season one and two. Yeah. It's honestly, like, it's 50 percent before season with season one and two yeah it's honestly like it's so confusing I cannot remember anyone's names like after the season is done airing like I'm done with the show yeah you know yeah and the people are so out of my mind forever except Lauren and Cameron Hamilton like live on forever in my brain and Jessica and Mark and Amber and Barnett Amber Barnett yes oh Alexa and Brennan yes from last season Israeli Queen they're married still she married like a
Starting point is 00:48:51 farmer from the middle of nowhere and they were so different but like fell in love instantly they were like the Brett and Tiffany of last season great anyone else married from last season Nancy and Bartice okay so we're back to 50 5050 odds. But they're done. So, no, we're 50-50 odds in the franchise before season four. We're 50-50 odds. Right? No. I don't know. Okay, don't like with the math, I honestly.
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Starting point is 00:50:59 stepchild, whatever. Auntie. It's kind of like a good way to get in the good graces of everyone in the family. And that's where you are right? constantly because you did it for us i did are you ready for our next story which is a little coachella recap yes coachella 2023 weekend one was underway in palm springs california this weekend and we've got some celebrity couple news spotting yes it was a lot of celebrities in attendance yeah and we'll talk about Coachella in general if there are things to share but Kendall and Bad Bunny got close at Coachella 2023 he um was a performer was a performer they were spotted like at the festival grounds walking looking at each other looking close and and semi-intimate no I mean like they're dating like and then also there was like that video of him on golf cart yep where he's sitting next to a girl sitting next to someone whose hair is blowing
Starting point is 00:51:48 onto him and there's a voice in the background it sounds like our girl and it looks totally like her chocolate brown hair and she was like it was her it's her like it was kind of rude that he like didn't just like show twist it yeah no but also people are acting like this is some sort of confirmation it's already been confirmed that picture of them on the horse from like last week, like they're dating. Yeah. I think a lot of people are in denial because they don't like it. People really are. Sometimes some couples will like get together and it's like, or they are spotted together
Starting point is 00:52:13 and we're like, they're together. Yeah. And these two show up literally every day doing something more, you know, normal and intimate than ever before. And it's still in the air. I just want to say, I know nobody's here for it. I'm so here for it. Like the headline is Kendall and bad bunny get close at Coachella as romance
Starting point is 00:52:29 rumors heat up. No, no. As their romance is confirmed. No, as their romance is heating up and getting more serious by the passing day. Do I think this is like one true love, like always and forever?
Starting point is 00:52:38 No. But I think this is a really great thing for both of them. Yeah. You know, he's really breaking into the american market who's more american than the kardashians she you know the whole family needs a boost and he's so well liked i love this love i agree here it looks like they had a great weekend um what's bad kendall's friends like a lot of them were at coachella haley and justin were there justine
Starting point is 00:53:01 skyly kylie was there without timothy Chalamet. Are they really dating? I don't know. We reported it last week. Like her car was spotted outside his house. Even though like the only way they would know that that's literally her car is like if you know. Christiana told them. Like it's giving very much like PR. But it seems like there is like a lot of proof that they are seeing each other.
Starting point is 00:53:19 And I just like. I cannot imagine. Because to me like Kylie looks so mature for her age. And he looks so immature for his age. It almost looks predatory, the relationship. Like, he looks 14, and she looks 30. Yeah. And she's like a mom.
Starting point is 00:53:32 Like, it makes no sense. She's so mature for her age. It's so crazy to me, because for so many girls and women, like, he is their crush. And, like, for me, like I don't feel that way I don't have crushes on teenagers so like that's just maybe why I'm not like other girls yeah what is his age not even that young he just looks you know who he looks like he looks like the guy that in this week's episode of Vanderpump Rules Katie brings to bowling night she's like I'm
Starting point is 00:54:01 dating someone 25 and I'm like really are you sure you're not dating someone 12 because he looks so young he looks like literally like one of my NYU orientation like leaders he's 27 no he looks 17 and he's really skinny he's 5 10 means nothing to me like these facts you know to me he's like 4 11 and he's in the ninth grade like it's just crazy yeah wow so she was there at Coachella. That's one that I'm just going to keep disbelieving until. Yeah. Like how people are doing with Kendall. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:30 But I believe Kendall. Me too. And Mr. Bunny. And Mr. Bad, yeah. Another couple celebrity spotting, Shawn Mendes and Camila Cabello, were PDAing at Coachella. They are not back together.
Starting point is 00:54:42 Sources say. According to sources. But that they remain friends with a lot of love and history between them they aren't dating dating again but they are smooching all over the festival yeah okay so maybe they're not dating again but like they're definitely heating things back up they went to Coachella together that's like a planned thing I saw videos and pictures TikToks they were like extremely like loving he was like standing behind like they're like or maybe they're not boyfriend and girlfriend but like they're on their way I don't know this to me seems actually really normal like this is what
Starting point is 00:55:08 people do they that oh you're at the same plate the party is like your ex like oh maybe will they won't they it's just unfortunate that we are all seeing it I don't think they'll get back together because I think whatever reason they broke up for was obviously serious enough because they were in a serious relationship but like they're both single and they are on good terms like why not hook up this is just the weird thing about Coachella it's like celebrities kind of forget who they are and they just like stand in crowds of massive people which they would never do and make out like it's just they all act so normal yeah like Kendall and Bad Bunny we have another story about Leonardo DiCaprio it's like
Starting point is 00:55:41 you kind of the Coachella's like kind of this like like lawlessness where the rules go out the window but they don't because everyone's filming everything right and it's not a safe place no it's not but they act like it is yeah I would be here for them getting back together but I also feel bad for Sabrina I know even though like Sabrina and Shawn Mendes like he told us very curtly uh were like never a thing or never going to be a thing and he never wishes for them to be a thing so my heart hurts for her as well even though I think she's doing just fine it hurts more for me knowing like Sabrina and and Shawn are actually like not together even though we know they weren't. But this works for my heart. Yeah I don't mind these two I know a lot of people dislike them I think people
Starting point is 00:56:24 think they're like a mismatch but I don't mind them at all and honestly like when they broke up I was like oh okay single Shawn Mendes era here for it but he gave us a whole bunch of nothing and the one thing he gave us he took away in that interview no I'm not saying Sabrina I hate her so his single era like gives no energy and so you know what you might as well get back with the girl who like you've loved for five years. Yeah, I'm watching a video of Camilla like leaving the festival, walking around with her friends,
Starting point is 00:56:49 and then she gets in Sean's car. Yeah, like they're together. Yeah. I don't hate this. Me neither. Are you ready for our next celebrity spotting at Coachella? Yes.
Starting point is 00:56:59 Leo Nardo. Leo Nardo. I love Leo Nardo. He was so good in that movie about the boat Leonardo DiCaprio was spotted with Bradley Cooper's ex Irina Shayk at Coachella and the only reason that she's shocking is because she's 37 like him being spotted out with a model okay whatever like who cares um a model who's a mother and is 37 I can't believe it must be a misprint age appropriate it must be a misprint but isn't he not friends with Bradley?
Starting point is 00:57:26 I don't know. You would think they would be, but now. They're just like the same person, but that doesn't mean they're friends. Yeah. But also this looks like the sort of spotting where it's like they were standing next to each other. Right. And there's only like so many cool pockets of a party that like the cool, actually cool people can like stand in. Like it could be a real nothing burger.
Starting point is 00:57:44 Except it looks, I don't, I don't, I I don't buy it I am like at a place in my life where like I genuinely don't care who Leonardo DiCaprio is dating like to me he gave us Cami Marone and I'm so grateful did you watch Daisy Jones no oh she was just sensational like she was so and I feel like you know I love that that he did that for us because now you know she's a star and that's what she deserves but like beyond that like I don't care you know it's like to me I don't really know the difference between Irina Shayk, Gigi Hadid like all these girls he's been with like they're just the same to me yeah it's not like do something different like date someone ugly you know like I just if he could do something to surprise me like maybe then i'd start caring but it's just it's regurgitated it's the same thing you know it's
Starting point is 00:58:29 also crazy that he's going to coachella like it makes me sad it's giving like kyle cook energy like you're too old for this party literally how old is leo that Bradley's 48 that's a good 48 Leo's 48 that's insane like I do feel like at some point you know I'm all for ages just a number but like the party is over you know yeah oh no or like this party's over for you go to a different party yeah even Vanessa Hudgens wasn't at Coachella this year I know she had to work queen and busy. But she's the queen of Coachella. But I did feel like this year in particular, there was a lot. I was like shocked by how many celebrities were at Coachella. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:59:11 Yeah. Hayley and Justin. Kendall. Like, I don't know. I just felt like it was more than usual. Like A-listers. Huh. I feel like it was pretty.
Starting point is 00:59:20 Maybe since it got so big. Yeah. And like it was just so pervasive and everything and then it kind of got like a little lame for a second I feel like now it's just like quieted off and it was cool like people weren't doing the most the outfits from like the influencers and the celebrities were just like cool low-key cool looks nothing crazy nothing stupid I did want to talk about though how like I felt like the landscape of like brands and influencers was really interesting this year because every year past it's very much been like the Revolve show um and I think Revolve had like a lot to prove this
Starting point is 00:59:48 year after that whole thing that happened last year with Revolve Festival but I felt like Revolve was like not really part of the narrative in terms of me just consuming other people's content it wasn't like the place to be I felt like Guess really showed up like they had Alex Earl and they had all these cool I think um Stas see baby like they had a really cool house with a lot of cool girls and Guess was like every other there was like a lot of other brands like doing the most and everybody stopped at Revolve like almost as like a rite of passage on the way to the festival but it didn't feel like it's felt in years past where it's like the only thing going on is Revolve and Revolve Festival and if you're not there with Revolve you're like irrelevant where it's like the only thing going on is Revolve and Revolve Festival. And if you're not there with Revolve, you're like irrelevant. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:26 It felt like there was a lot of other cool brands like doing cooler things. Yeah. Or a lot of people who were just like sent to Coachella with to promote a certain brand. Like the brand didn't activate or anything there. But like I'm taking this sunscreen with me and Coachella. And then their whole stay and everything is just like sponsored by that brand, which is cool, too. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:43 It just felt like everybody showed up like they're finally they took a note out of Revolve's book and like everybody started competing yeah it was cool yeah it was I enjoyed following it this weekend me too I saw some cute outfits yeah a lot of big pants that's the trend yeah no and I'm personally getting ready for stagecoach and I know the vibes are different but the aesthetic is overall like kind of like it's desert-y it's bandana like there's some similarities I'm having so much trouble like are you gonna wear big pants because that's the trend like I actually bought a shirt today that was like I put it on it arrived today and I was like oh my god you know what I need big pants but like I'm not a big pants girl you know it's like it's the desert who wants to wear pants no no I'm not a big pants girl no but like I literally need pants for this shirt or else
Starting point is 01:01:24 I can't wear the shirt you know there's really you have to show me I will there has to be another way there's not what do people do before big pants I don't know I don't know and like where do you stand in this time and place in history if you physically can't wear big pants that's a good question like I don't know what would happen if I wore big pants honestly i'm not a big pants girl no let's just put it that i'll leave it at that i feel like you have to be taller yes you do baseline yeah where do we go from here i don't know we're being left behind we definitely are in the pants department a hundred percent are you ready for our next story yes some tings around yeah um northwest is making headlines because she joined katie perry on stage in las vegas as her mom kim watched from the audience kim took north and her friends to katie perry's show in
Starting point is 01:02:19 vegas and they were having the time of their lives and And then Katie invited North on stage to dance, and North invited her friends on stage. Yeah, there's a lot to unpack from all the content on Kim's story. I didn't watch every single video, but I saw most of it. I thought the whole thing was so cute and sweet and not relatable because they took a plane, but just taking your daughter and her friends to a concert. It's like an escapade.
Starting point is 01:02:43 There's an element of relatability not at the level they went but it was cute and it was still that kind of normal of Kim and then when Katie brought her on stage I'm like oh that's cute and then I watched the footage of Katie on stage and like Katie was just like doing the most for North which was so nice but if I was a patron of this concert like I paid money I would be like it was a long time they had her on there they made a TikTok they all dance and they brought the friends over it wasn't just like everyone give it up for North like it was like a long saga it was like several stories that were all about 60 seconds and if I was at the concert just to hear Katy Perry like I would have been annoyed like yeah it was a lot
Starting point is 01:03:16 it made me wonder if like in every concert she brings some kids up for like a kid segment I don't think so okay it could be like context is key it could be in that like in this concert it was going to be like North and her friends because they were there um but that was the exact thought I had when I saw it I was like this is so cool for North and her friends but it's a lot but if I was at this concert I'm like I'm leaving yeah and Katie was like so cute and sweet with the girls and like she's obviously like really maternal and like we don't really ever see that side of her because she keeps her like mom life private.
Starting point is 01:03:47 So it was very cool. And, and it was sweet, but it was just, um, it was a really long, you know, time for her to be up on that stage. Yeah. And when, when Katie brought North and she was like, do you want to make a TikTok with me? North is like, can my friends come up? It was so sweet.
Starting point is 01:04:02 Like North is a really sweet kid. Right. You forget. She's just like a nine-old girl with her friends and I think I said this last week I was talking to someone one of the guests was about her like I feel like a lot of us have like this preconceived notion of North in our head that she's probably like this diva monster just because she's the oldest and I don't know that's just like how I perceive her and we follow Nori's black book yeah yeah I just perceive her as like being this spoiled brat and every time I see her
Starting point is 01:04:24 like speak she's so sweet and soft she's just a kid and she's like can i bring my friends up like it was so cute and i was shocked i don't know why yeah that she's just a kid we have her like in our heads on this pedestal larger than life person 100 she's nine but that's pretty cool um also kim had recently taken like saint and his friends. All around Europe to see soccer games, like, up close. And meet all the players. F1 or something. They're, like, big soccer fans. And it's just, like, where do you go from there?
Starting point is 01:04:52 It's down. You know? What's, like, how do you impress them after that? That's why I think, I feel like the kids would be monsters. Right. That's why. But it seems like they really do appreciate it. Yeah, and they looked at, even the videos of, like, Saint and the soccer players. Like, they monsters. Right. That's why. But it seems like they really do appreciate it. Yeah, and they looked at,
Starting point is 01:05:05 even the videos of like Sane and the soccer players, like they were freaking out. Yeah, no, and when, how long does that last for? When Katie called, oh, is that Northwest? North was screaming, and then when she said,
Starting point is 01:05:15 North, do you want to come on stage? It wasn't like she expected that. She was screaming. All the girls were like jumping up. It was so cute, and it was really genuine shock. Yeah. But I would have expected her to be like, it's about time, you know?
Starting point is 01:05:27 Yeah. Or be like, no. Maybe she'll get to a place where that's her reaction to these things. Right. Or she goes to a concert and she's like, why aren't I on stage? And then we got a lot of behind the scenes footage after the show where Sia came with them and Paris Hilton too. It was kind of like this random crew.
Starting point is 01:05:41 It's so fun. Yeah. And like if you had kids and you and the collective you and money like Kim does, like that's what you would do. And like what how can you curate a better time for your kids? No, it's so true. It was really sweet. But like there was an element of weirdness to it where I was like, OK, move on.
Starting point is 01:05:57 Get on with the show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It looked like a good show, though. Yeah. Katie's residency has been like pretty successful to the point where like no one talks about it you know what i mean yeah it's not like on the level of adele where it's like everything she does is spoken about but it's not a flop she sells really good tickets and she's kind of like the perfect candidate for a residency because she weirdly is like in this like legend era like she's not releasing new music she probably couldn't if she really wanted
Starting point is 01:06:23 to to the point where it would be like as successful as her old music. But she has this insane catalog of music. Yeah. She's really perfect for it. I did see a headline she was talking about
Starting point is 01:06:30 like touring after her residency. Maybe it's like a greatest hits tour. I'd love to see her. She's a queen and she's a very talented vocalist. Yes. Well, we know where
Starting point is 01:06:41 she will be performing next because our next story, a little Carnation news. It's Coronation Day. And Katy Perry and Lionel Richie will lead King Charles Cavalier Spaniel's Coronation Concert. And here's who else is performing. So on Friday, the BBC announced the roster of performers
Starting point is 01:06:58 gracing the stage at the Coronation Concert on Sunday, May 7th. Wow, it's coming up. I feel like we've been talking about it. Oh, I mean, I didn't talk about it with anyone last week because like I just like wasn't in the mood for royal news but we could talk about it now that Prince Harry is going and Meghan is not. Yeah we'll talk about it at some point in the story I think. The concert is one day after King Charles and Queen Camilla are crowned at Westminster Abbey. Lionel Richie, Katy Perry and Andrea Bocelli highlight the lineup,
Starting point is 01:07:25 which also includes, the British pop group, Take That, plus UK talent, Sir Bryn Turfell, Frio Ridings, and Alexis Fafrench. So it's not like,
Starting point is 01:07:35 star studded, is what you'd say. Okay, yeah. Globally. I would say, those first three names, are really good, really big,
Starting point is 01:07:42 there's no, it's not an embarrassment. Yes, I agree. i agree he's having some local talent to highlight i mean why not highlight some of our national treasures no it's on the back of katie perry lionel richie and andrea bocelli for like the three main headliners if you will for not one of them to be british like is a little bit of a disgrace like the fact and when you think about like the biggest stars in the world like so many of them are British Adele Ellie Goulding Harry Styles like there are so many so the fact that none of them are either available or willing to do it like does give me
Starting point is 01:08:14 pause I can't lie yeah um but this is not an embarrassing lineup but when you look really into it and you notice that none of the three major people are British like it definitely is weird yeah but we already like kind of crossed that bat like we already had this conversation like those big stars either they really are unavailable we looked at their tour schedules like Harry really couldn't even if he wanted to I think uh Adele just extended her residency um yeah Adele like could have done it yeah she didn't want to yeah she didn't want to and so there's a few like gaping no but you also have to reconcile the fact that like it's entirely possible like I don't really know the landscape of like British politics but it's entirely possible it's like
Starting point is 01:08:52 when a certain celebrity doesn't want to perform for like one president's inauguration like it's a political thing yes and they might not be monarchists at their core right so we've accepted that. Yeah. That the top tier of British aristocracy. Talon is either booked and busy or. Anti. Anti. And so now it was a really just a question of who they would get. And I am feeling very relieved for Charles that this is not embarrassing. These are three A, A, A, super A.
Starting point is 01:09:21 Yeah. Andrea Bocelli. Andrea Bocelli. Like, I think it's going to be great. I can't wait to watch. Yeah. I think it's very interesting that both Katy Perry and Lionel Richie are doing it together. It makes me think they might have the same agent.
Starting point is 01:09:30 Because like they're both on American Idol together. And now they're both doing The Coronation together. And they're friends. So like it's nice. It adds like a nice little narrative. And I've just like recently been loving Lionel Richie. I feel like he was just in the Brooke Shields documentary. You're in your Lionel era.
Starting point is 01:09:44 I kind of am. He's so great on American Idol. He was just in the Brooke Shields documentary where he really came off looking so well. And I don't know if it wasn't the point of the documentary, but she was at this point where she was talking about how like so many men in the industry like took advantage of her and sexualized her.
Starting point is 01:09:58 And then it's just Lionel Richie who is there as like a friend giving testimonials, talking about how he's known her since she was so young and they've always been really close. and it just made him look even better because all the men in the in Brooke's story were like turning out to be villains like her husband and her whatever so I just love Lionel and then of course he's Sophia and Nicole's father which just adds like another element she's getting married like any day the jewess I know she's converting you weren't here but I talked about it with Ben he was very excited because she was like so excited and proud and a lot of celebrity jews are like so quiet
Starting point is 01:10:28 about their faith um she's kind of like this timeless in terms of style like she's really this like elegant classic timeless queen and i think her wedding is going to be i think it's going to be like up there with like nicola peltz like i think it's going to be gorgeous because like she's obviously ho gorgeous because like she's obviously Hollywood royalty she's marrying someone who's like a business royalty you know I think it's gonna be kind of like a next level affair yeah I'm excited I am excited too are you ready for our fifth and final story oh my god no no no I'm not somebody tell page six shit my fucking iPad okay sorry well you asked me something I couldn't hear you are you ready for our fifth and final story only if it's the fifth and final story that's brought to you by game time
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Starting point is 01:14:27 We worked through it. Our fifth and final story. Raquel Levis is entering voluntary facility for mental health counseling. People has confirmed she is seeking treatment for her mental health. More than a month after the news of Skandival broke, she entered a program in Arizona, a plan that her rep says she's been considering for some time. Quote, the rep said, quote, Raquel and her family decided before the relationship was discovered
Starting point is 01:14:53 that she would enter a voluntary facility for mental health counseling. She was scheduled to go in pre-reunion, but decided she wanted to finish her filming commitment. Bravo and production were aware and in support of her journey towards better mental health. Her rep confirmed she's not there for rehab, but rather a program focused on mental health and trauma therapy. I am literally not surprised by this. I think like any human being who had to deal with what Raquel had to deal with through her own actions, of course, would be having a mental health crisis.
Starting point is 01:15:22 I wouldn't be surprised if she was having like a full blown fucking mental breakdown. But I did also hear she went to Mirabal, like Canyon Ranch. Well, the statement is a little confusing because it says that she decided that she was going before the relationship was discovered. So she's going to a mental health facility not because of everything that's happened with Scandival.
Starting point is 01:15:40 Because I would agree with you. When you go through this, like it is very traumatizing and traumatizing so they're saying she's always planned on going and it's not because of the fallout but maybe like she maybe she engaged with Tom in the way that she did because of the mental health issues that she has yeah it's very PR spin yeah but I don't want to doubt like what she might have been going through. What's maybe happened to her. I'm kind of like a wait and see sort of person,
Starting point is 01:16:09 but so far this seems like, you know, the steps that you take in your road to. A comeback. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I,
Starting point is 01:16:17 I think also just having conversations last week with Paige and Hannah, who are both reality stars, we had to deal with like their own share of like backlash, which was on a much smaller scale. I felt like when we were talking about it, they both had like a lot of sympathy for Raquel, like, and not in any way that I'm not team Ariana, but like I do find myself really feeling for Raquel
Starting point is 01:16:37 in a way that like, I don't have those feelings for Tom, like not even in the slightest. Like to me, everything that's happening to Tom is like a direct result of him just being really like a terrible human being for 10 years. Like I don't, I don't know, I don't feel sympathetic towards him. I do feel like, like maybe it's because everyone's really coming for Raquel really hard. A lot of the girls on the cast too, like this whole Rachel thing, they're just like really coming for Raquel more so than they're coming for Tom. And I don't know, I just like feel, I'm like, and I don't want this to be taken out of context
Starting point is 01:17:06 because I'm very much team Ariana, but I'm human and I feel bad for Raquel. She obviously fucked up. She's obviously a person who's clearly dealing with some sort of crisis because she finds Tom Sandoval attractive and that's obviously the first sign of mental illness. But I don't know, I feel I'm starting like I feel really bad
Starting point is 01:17:25 for her I agree I mean we said this like throughout Scannerball as much as like the tea is hot and and it's a crazy thing that happened like she's a person right and a human being is not meant to withstand this amount of criticism on this volume and it's gotten to such a crazy level like it's her personal life it's a professional life like she's been wiped out yeah and it's like everyone even like the base suitcases did you see that thing oh yeah yeah yeah like they got in on the drama it's like she can't even leave her house with a purse without the company of the person we hate you here's a full suit of suitcases to ariana it's like oh my god it's just a lot like and i know she had an affair and i know she's wrong in this and like i get and two things can be true like i I can reconcile both.
Starting point is 01:18:06 And I'm just like, I don't know. It feels like it's crossed a line, honestly. Yeah. It's, it's the volume is, is really crazy.
Starting point is 01:18:12 But, and then, so I would understand if she was going away to take time from all of this and just like focus on herself, but that's not what they said. Like they're saying it's regardless of Scandival. She was going to a facility no and i had read online that the facility which they said was in arizona is miraval which is not like a mental health facility it's like a spa time off is time i agree i agree but like i do feel like if that's the case then that statement is like intentionally
Starting point is 01:18:39 misleading and and i think the statement is intentionally misleading i think a lot of it is um spin and PR and as I said like the things that you do in order to come back from something but I also think she's really going through something so I think it's true that mental health counseling would be good for her image and good for her mental health right right so true I just honestly um like I'm just I on it like now I'm at the point where every everything that's coming out is like giving me the ick it's not like yeah yeah stuff against Tom I'm still yeah yeah but the Raquel stuff I don't know I just feel like I know this sounds crazy I just feel like like she had an
Starting point is 01:19:13 affair with Tom against her will like I know that sounds crazy I I feel like she's not a person who can like really like control her decisions I know I just I'm seeing it well her original statement said that she's like addicted to love and attention and like maybe she was clearly at a low point in her life this season and like drinking and just feeling so lonely and she's susceptible but she is responsible for actions but I also think like people can like do bad things and still be within reason you know Irina being mean to Zach right and okay so you did it right now what now what we don't have to you know hang you put your head on a spike I know
Starting point is 01:19:52 I know and it gets to the point where it's like okay it's a little too much now yeah and Ariana's living her life like she's out at Coachella she was spotted making out with this hot guy like good good and I'm not saying that she's not the victim. She 100% is. But like, I do think it's gone to like a little bit of a crazy place. Yeah, I think so too. And I just think everything is fluid, you know? So it's done. So it's in it.
Starting point is 01:20:17 What now? Yeah. Like, it doesn't mean, and I also think the people who like take all this stuff like off the internet, off the show, do things in real life, do things in Instagram comments. It's like there's no need for that. Yeah. You know, like we could talk like it's gossip and it's entertainment and they're on a show
Starting point is 01:20:34 and it's all fodder. And so we're like living for it. But I don't go comment on Markel's Instagram. No, no, no, no, no. I don't show up at Tom Tom. No, no, no, no, no. I mean Schwartz and Sandy's. Or TomTom.
Starting point is 01:20:46 Or either of them. Right. You know, I just, I move on. Right, right. And so I think people like need to have, be able to separate. The two. This isn't your life.
Starting point is 01:20:57 Yeah. Yeah. Okay, well those are the fast five. Do you want to talk about Succession? I didn't watch Succession, but I did want to do like a little content recap. all sorts of mediums yeah that's okay because I did a lot of reading I finally read that little mini Jessica Simpson oh yeah she released like an addendum which by the way everyone should read because it's 28 pages and it counts towards your
Starting point is 01:21:18 good read school and it was so cute I read it in 30 minutes because it's 28 pages and it was just like this I don't know why this was written but it was fun to go back to her is it fictional or it's just like a story about her life it's one more like story about her life it's not fictional but it's about like a movie star who was unnamed but I remember like reading rumors that it was Mark Wahlberg oh okay but I need to like now go and cross-reference everything and she did give a lot of clues like I feel like someone could figure it out. Yeah, yeah. I feel like not enough people cared.
Starting point is 01:21:46 That's a thing. Yeah. Or they just settled. Or maybe I just don't know where to look. Right, right. Because like a People magazine isn't going to be like, it's this person that's slanderous. Because he's like cheating on someone.
Starting point is 01:21:57 And it was really cute. And I love our girl. It was fun to go back into the world of open book for 30 minutes. Such a good book. And then I read Paris Hilton's memoir. Oh, yeah. Paris, the the memoir and it was so good and I read it in like two days and I just like kept wanting to keep reading it um it was really well written while also being so true to Paris I didn't realize her having like ADHD is such it's like one of the big themes of the book and something
Starting point is 01:22:21 that like runs through it and like the way that and she wasn't diagnosed until she was in her 20s so like in her childhood it's like she was constantly acting out constantly seeking adrenaline they didn't know sit still couldn't focus and so she like found all these different avenues to like channel her energy which were oftentimes like the wrong places of course 15 year old to go to the club but she just loved the lights and the music and like that her brain is like it's needed that stimulation and so that was like a really big theme but I also feel like in reading someone's book and this in particular like I could really understand her and like why she is always DJing like and you would think like someone doesn't
Starting point is 01:22:53 want to be in the clubs forever but like the way that the music is like it it like speaks to her brain and it's not something I feel like oftentimes when we talk about celebrities we try to like get inside their head and be like well maybe she's the type of her and that's why I like reading celebrity memoirs because now like I get it yeah so it was a really great perspective on Paris it was a lot about the like uh Provo right EGS schools that she had went to if I hadn't seen her documentary um I would have been like floored by this book there are a lot more details in the book than there were in the documentary but I could feel you know what was you had context because I had context um and it was really really good also what's like a big bombshell or like did she
Starting point is 01:23:35 mention other celebrities oh yeah tons she talks about Britney a lot they're really they're real friends oh nice um she like talked about the moment in the car with like Britney and Lindsay like how they all wound up sitting in like in the front seats together and it was like so not meant to be iconic yeah like and lindsey like was shouldn't have been getting in the car she didn't fit it was a two-seater um but how because sometimes she would like go down a rabbit hole of like something dark and she'd be like my brain doesn't want to go here let me think about something good and she'd like flip through stories and she then starts telling like a random like the book really operated in the same way that her brain does a lot of run-on
Starting point is 01:24:08 sentences which she said like that's how I think and that's how I talk and it took a second to get used to yeah but then like whoever she worked with on writing because I'm sure like she had helped they really captured her spirit that's the thing I think she's so spirited I think a lot of celebrity memoirs and the best celebrity memoirs, it's everyone works with a writer that doesn't take away from the validity of it, whether it's like a ghostwriter or it's on, you know, written with. But when you can really hear
Starting point is 01:24:32 the person's voice reading it to you, that's in my opinion, like a successful celebrity memoir. That's honestly why I did not like Mariah Carey's. Like it was so sophisticated and dense. And this is how that bitch talks. Like we've heard her talk. She's hilarious. Like, no, it was very dense. It was so not like Mariah was reading sophisticated and dense. And this is how that bitch talks. Like we've heard her talk. She's hilarious.
Starting point is 01:24:45 Yeah. No, it was very dense. It was so not like Mariah was reading it to me. And like Jessica Simpson, I heard in Andy Cohen's books, it's so Andy. Like when you can hear their voice come through, I love that. Yes. Agreed. Mariah's book was good though because it was an amazing story.
Starting point is 01:25:01 Yes. But the writing kind of is not what you would expect. Didn't sound like her um I gave the book five stars met all memoir criteria and celebrity memoir criteria from me um there was just like interesting factoids and nuggets in there you know but nothing like so crazy crazy that I had never heard a lick of but I felt like I understood her childhood better because it felt like whenever she I understood her childhood better. Because it felt like whenever she talks about her childhood, it's like, did they live in New York? Or they lived in L.A.? How was she friends with Nicole and Kim?
Starting point is 01:25:30 But they lived at the Waldorf. Right. And all the jumping around is like thoroughly explained. And then she, and I really. And is there a connection to the Hilton Hotel franchise explained? Yeah. Okay. Her great grandfather is Conrad Hilton, who started Hilton Hotels.
Starting point is 01:25:43 But they don't own it. No. They're not. no uh they're not still involved but that's like not what her dad does right right he's like a real estate type yeah but she said like the most I will ever benefit from the Hilton name considering Conrad donated most of his fortune to charity which like was known um she said the most I benefit from the name is that I'm now in Hilton commercials right so now it looks like she's actually like a founder of the company because she works every time she goes on. Her honeymoon was sponsored by Hilton.
Starting point is 01:26:08 And it's very smart of Hilton to, you know, capitalize on literally somebody with the last name. But it makes it confusing. Yeah. But she like talks about like a lot of the stories behind the iconic moments, like the picture with Dave LaChapelle and her grandparents house giving the finger, like how all of that came to be. And and then you
Starting point is 01:26:26 go and google the picture and it's like wow those are the best type of books when like you end up googling she'll be like google this oh i love that she was like i love jumping over fences i've been doing at my grandparents house since i was little like i'll do it to get out of any situation she was like google daily mail 2007 like jumping out oh by the way i love that yeah yeah oh you kind of want to read it you should read it i feel like it's a good beach read yeah maybe like somebody could take me to a beach I'll go but there was like a lot of traumatic experiences yeah so a trigger warning I don't want to like give too much away but um she's just a great wonderful woman powerful woman good I read too nothing crazy um I'm reading one of us is Dead have you heard of it no just like a like
Starting point is 01:27:06 rich women in Atlanta I guess one of them is dead I don't know who yet and I'm still 50% in whoa yeah I know um it's like you know rich politics buckhead it's good I started a new book last night I think I'm only six percent in but the first six percent it's giving luckiest girl alive it's giving Ani oh what's it uh called it's called the social climber oh was it about me um I don't know what happens in the book but it's like you know a very ambitious cutthroat almost let me know if I should read it I will but so far I'm like the tone of it is reminding me of Ani and then I read this book called by Abby Jimenez called yours truly which is the sequel it's like a really good book that I liked called Part of Your World and I'm here to tell you like please don't read it it was
Starting point is 01:27:48 like really truly horrible great yeah and then I read a book that I don't remember the name I think it must have been really good you must remember this I don't know how it ended up on my want to read but I was like I could go for you know a nameless thriller and not for me oh I watched the first three episodes of the final season of Maisel it's pretty good I like I don't know why I watch it I just like it and nobody watches it and it's crazy how it was literally the show with the most fanfare of all time like swept every award show for two years in a row and I think people literally forget that it's still on but it's the final season and it's pretty good um and I watch I watch the first five out of six episodes of Belgravia which is Julian Fellows of Downton Abbey oh and it's so good so far but it's only six episodes and I don't think there's a second
Starting point is 01:28:34 season so like why waste your time no no like I'm sad yeah but no I'm glad to have had my time with Belgravia do we ever get a second season of Gilded Age? No, but it's coming. Oh, okay. So that's the TV recap. That's the content recap. And that's our show, correct? That's our show. I feel good. I feel like we got it all out. Thank you guys so much.
Starting point is 01:28:53 You said what we needed to say. It's been said. It's been said. And that's really all you can hope for at the end of a podcast. And at the end of a how long? An hour and 30 minutes. Oh, shit. The car's about to run out.
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