The Toast - Jowsey in Wonderland: The Toast, Wednesday, May 7th, 2025

Episode Date: May 7, 2025

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Welcome back to the toast and happy Wednesday. It is hump day. And I don't really feel like humping anyone I love today because I'm just kind of being bogged down with all the hate I received yesterday. The vitriol once again being thrown my way by the DTQ. I'm being canceled by my own Q-munity, the DTQ. Well, that's why right now we're going into deer toasters.

We are doing deer toasters today. We also have the Valley recap. I just worked my way up to deer toasters. Like I can't just raw dog it. No, of course not. We are holding space for two things. We will be doing the Valley recap and deer toasters today. It's not our fault.

Honestly, it's Adewyn Torres fault. If you want to take your vitriol and your pitchforks, like take it to her. Yeah. They're like, well, I would have rather had our 20 of dear toasters than the Met Gala. So, so how the show works. That's not what, so we should just cancel the toast

and do a show called Dear Toasters. And every day it'll be Dear Toasters. Jackie, don't give him ideas. So we are not going to dilly dally. We have lots to discuss today. Jax, brief check in with you. How you doing? I'm doing good, I guess.

I'm like nervous. I guess I won't talk about, not that I really did much yesterday worth mentioning, but now I feel pressure. I feel like this feels like how we used to be in the pink backdrop studio. When I watch back old episodes, not that I do that often. The pre-Fest five banter is two minutes. Well because we were like fat and uninteresting, like we weren't developed podcasters yet.

I wasn't, I wasn't. I was so gorgeous and thin. You were gorgeous, yeah. I was like a kala, I was a enfiance, I got married, I was working at the Liv Method. She had culottes. Well, maybe I was just like always working out and like counting calories

and I didn't have that much to share. But today, I think I'm gonna make a soup. I've been feeling like soup. Doesn't that sound, well, you don't like soup, so don't answer that and don't like, don't make it sound yucky. Okay, so I'll just, I won't speak. Great, that's what you wanted.

Yeah, oh, that's true. I did wanna say one thing yesterday, like was one of the days where I got home from the toast and genuinely collapsed, like collapsed until five o'clock. And then I woke up at five o'clock, like panic sweeper mode. Like I need to have today have been like a productive day. You know?

So I actually started packing my hospital bag, which I think some people like pack like months in advance, but I feel like now is an appropriate time. I started off with like innocently, like with a duffel. No, no. It was actually Louis Vuitton, you know, but only because that's the only duffel I have, you know. Damn, someone's gonna swipe your hospital bag.

1000%, but also I had to unpack it because nothing fit. So now everything's just sort of laid out on the couch and I'll find the proper vessel at some point. But I did a con and I also packed Romeo's things. Romeo's actually, it's kind of sad. Me and Romeo have been, we've been on a really good healing journey. I'm trying not to miss moments of his childhood,

but he is gonna be spending a significant amount of time out of the house. He's gonna be at his grandparents' obviously, so I had to pack up his things. His treats, his wellness products from Wagwell. He's a brand ambassador. I had to also pack his tripod because he's obviously like a, he's an influencer too. So I had to pack a lot of his things. His treats from Wagwell, his pop protectors from Wagwell. He's a brand ambassador. He's got, I also pack his tripod because he's obviously like a, he's an influencer too.

So I had to pack a lot of his things, his treats from Wagwell, his pop protectors from Wagwell. And- You can't go through withdrawals. Withdrawals. So it was just kind of emotional packing day for me and Romeo. I understand.

Are you worried about like Romeo acclimating? No, no, no, Romeo and the baby. I feel like when I was having a baby, so many people were like, what about Bruno? Bruno handles a little bit like a champion as he does everything. I feel like when I was having a baby, so many people were like, what about Bruno? Bruno handled it like a champion as he does everything. I'm not worried.

Maybe it's also because like I know in my heart, like if anything were like to go wrong, Ben's parents would rehome Romeo. That's how I felt about Bruno and you. I'm not looking to rehome by the way. It's just nice to know you have- No, no, no, no, no. But it's nice to know you have like a really legit,

safe, good- Have I news buddies looking to rehome Romeo? I'm not, I'm not. But like if we needed more time, they would take him for months. Like they would, he stays there all the time, he's so happy there. Well, you have to do the hospital blanket thing

where you like give Bowie's blanket to them to keep in his crate and let him get cozy. But like Bruno became a big brother at the same age at Romeo's becoming a big brother. Yeah. And he was fantastic. I mean, King Charles Cavaliers are the best breed of dogs for children.

It's just like a fact. 100%. So I think it's gonna be wonderful. Yeah. Rowy and Bowie. So in addition to like slaying the Met Gala recap yesterday, I also packed my hospital bag, which I feel like for a girl who's now mis-pregnant, like slay, I did. Like I'm just trying to like slaying the Met Gala recap yesterday, I also packed my hospital bag, which I feel like for a girl who's now most pregnant,

like slay, I did, like, I'm just trying to like get things done every day, you know? Eh, in every way. And to slay while doing it. Slay all day. All day, every day. I do slay. I like that little hand.

I do slay. This does feel like dilly dallying. I'm just letting you know.. This does feel like dilly dallying. I'm just letting you know. It feels a lot like dilly dallying, but we had to do something. You can't just raw dog into the stories, into the ads, what you sign into the toast and you get hit with the ads. You need a little schmooze.

You do need a little schmooze. Anything else you wanna chit chat about? I'm scared of you. Yeah, I'm scared of the DTQ. Just know like the fear you feel through os I'm scared of the DTQ. Just know like the fear you feel through osmosis is from the DTQ. You need to be more scared of me than you are of them. No, Jackie, you don't understand the vitriol

that was in my DMs. Like you'll never understand. And like, while I understand the DTQ, cause I am one of them, they're starting to lose me. Yeah. They hate, but listen. They're giving Jelena. It's giving bots.

Oh, actually not to be like beating a dead horse. I did see, you know, the Guardian wrote up an article about like this whole Justin Baldoni. Yes, she did the Guardian. No, I saw a TikTok about it. This whole Justin Baldoni, whatever, yada, yada. And it was like an article like any other. But there was a really interesting statistic.

They had like an expert on there analyzing all the content on social media, the different hashtags, and it was presumed by this expert that like over 80% of pro-Baldoni content is inorganic. Okay, cool. Which I thought was interesting. Obviously I'm just trying- I would say any content that's like using hashtags is probably inorganic.

But it wasn't an analysis just on hashtags, it was an analysis on like the entire saga on social media. Got it. I thought people would find that interesting. That's like a trend. Yeah, paying for... I don't know who's paying for it, but I just think maybe it's even like Mark Zuckerberg

just like acting like his platforms are more bussin' than they are. You know, like I don't even know where it comes from. Or you think it's a vanity thing. No, I just, maybe it's even like Mark Zuckerberg just like acting like his platforms are more bussin' than they are. You know, like I don't even know where it comes from. You think it's a vanity thing. No, I just, it's coming from somewhere because it happens with every conversation. It's just like the dregs, like these aren't people. And to what end?

These aren't people. But these are people. And these are- Are, yeah, I was just gonna say that. These aren't spirit fingers. These are spirit fingers and these are gold. That was the perfect reference. Clip.

And I think the perfect way to segue. I think you've been appropriately schmoozed. And now we can dive into the Fast Five stories that you don't need to know. We can dip, dodge, dip, dive and dodge into the fast five stories. We're gonna dip, dive and dodge the DTQ community. Brought to you by Wayfair. Okay, how about that?

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Thank you, T-U-R-T. What can I say? Our first story, Dochi is going viral and receiving backlash for videos that have emerged of her flipping out on her team as she attempted to hide her Met Gala look. So we actually commended Dochi for not having seen her look before she arrived on the Met Gala red carpet.

And now we are seeing what went into concealing her look. And it was a lot of expletives and yelling at the people on her team. Yeah. So Dochi had a diva moment ahead of her Met Gala debut on Monday snapping at her team when they failed to properly conceal her ensemble. According to a video posted on TikTok,

there was like two videos at least, right? I saw more than one. I saw one long one. It was just somebody following her out of the elevator and it gets worse and worse and worse. She curses at her team, say, I need more fucking umbrellas. Every other word is the F-bomb.

Give me another umbrella now. I need four fucking umbrellas. So she's in this like enclosure that doesn't have a, it's like a chupa, but it doesn't have a roof. So she's asking for umbrellas. It's like a soca. Right. No, socas have a roof. She she's asking for umbrellas. It's like a soca. Right, no socas have a roof. She's asking for the umbrellas to be like inside the tent

so that nobody can like stick their phone up and in, like kind of like a bathroom stall. That's what it looks like. And so while I understand why she was asking for it. No, and umbrellas for the rain. Oh yeah, even though the car was covered. Because no one was gonna stick their phone up and over. Like she has security. umbrellas for the rain. Oh yeah, even though the car was covered. No one was gonna stick their phone up and over,

like she has security. Oh, I was thinking it was so that nobody saw her look. It was both, but also like the rain, she doesn't wanna get wet. Yeah, yeah, okay. And like usually if you're not in an enclosure, the person holding your umbrella can see the areas that they're missing of you, but they couldn't see her,

so she needed full coverage. Now, the how, the why, the who, what, when, where, is actually not important. I'm trying to find an angle where I can defend Dochi, because I really liked Dochi and I loved her look, and I understand not wanting anyone to see and showing up at your best, but I'm sorry. There is no world, no scenario,

there's no detailed context you could give me where it would be okay to speak to people like this. Like it is abhorrent. Yes, I have a couple thoughts. Like one of all the people who could have just like run out to the van in their outfit, it would have been her. So chill.

Literally wearing shorts and sneakers. No one else could possibly walk like they're wearing these extravagant things. She could have like grabbed, she could have put a raincoat over herself. Her outfit was just more movable than other people. So if anyone was just gonna tail it to the van,

could have been her. That's a great point. Also, conversation we had yesterday about the Carlisle, the Marc, I forget which hotel she was at. But she was at one of the ones where paparazzi, media and fans stand outside. And if that is not something you wanted, there are people who showed up,

I don't know where the hell they stayed, maybe they have their own apartments, but I didn't see pictures of them at the Mark. So like, you're staying at the Mark at the Carlisle intentionally to get those photos. It's a second media moments for some people, that's what they want. So to make this whole Khafre Diavra drama Balagan,

when like you knowingly are at the exact place where these things types of that happen, like you're in the wrong. And then when you're talking to people like that, like no. Yeah, I also think it's extra bad because the way she's talking to people is so incongruous with the way like she is public facing.

Like we watched her interview on the carpet and she was just so sweet and so positive. No, no, no, but to another level, and it's like, well, this is what you are like in private. It's just so off brand. If it were Mariah Carey doing this, it really wouldn't be that shocking and that newsworthy.

It's just like Mariah Carey's a diva again, but she owns it. Don't she, I don't know if she's pretending to be like, cause this is not just like I'm in a bad- So normal. By the way, everyone at the Met Gala was in a bad mood, was frustrated. Like they've been in the ram all day. The rain, the traffic, the waiting.

The rain, the waiting. It's like when someone steps on their dress, everybody is giving death glare. Sabrina, Kim, everybody's in a bad mood. It seriously looked fucking miserable. This is beyond that. Like swearing. And this is beyond being like short or curt.

Like I need umbrellas. Like the fuckings, the way that, and those are people on her team. It's not like, and she knows there, she knows that there's people around and this is still how she, it's not even like this is how she talks in private. Like this is how she talks in the public, like adjacent.

I think maybe you expect this type of behavior from somebody who's like, you is how she talks in private. Like this is how she talks in the public, like Jason. I think maybe you expect this type of behavior from somebody who's like, you know, an OG, you know, someone who's been doing this for a long time. Dochi is seriously like at this level of fame for three months. And it's just, it's a quick, I mean, it's just, it's a quick transition. I didn't expect it.

If you would have told me, we would have gotten like a hot mic moment of somebody being an absolute bitch and a half to their entire staff, I never would have guessed her. hot mic moment of somebody being an absolute bitch and a half to their entire staff, I never would have guessed her. She's too new. She's so real and like raw. And she's like, I don't know,

when I saw her speech at the Grammys, I was like, oh. No, like cutesy. Cutesy, exactly. I never would have expected this. And I'm sorry, like they're, like I was looking for one desperately searching, but there's no excuse. Like you can't.

There's no excuse. And I just think like now, I think rather than like be phony and like act like this didn't happen or trying to I think she should just like lean into this side of herself. This Diva era. Yeah, because I think otherwise it'll continue to come up like and I think that's what people hate when they find out that someone in private Ellen JDN someone in private is like so nasty

but their public persona is so cheery. Right, like Naomi Campbell, Mariah Carey, like you expect this, right? It's Congress with their diva-like, public-facing energy. Even when we were saying like Miranda Lambert when she was yelling at those fans, like yeah, Miranda yells at people. That's so Miranda.

Yeah. It hurts more when you're a fan of someone who's like, even though Dochi's whole persona is not like kindness, JVN, Ellen, like they were platforms built on kindness. Dochi is just more real and she's like really young and new and she's like, she gives off this vibe that she's like so grateful for all the success that she's having. So it just, it was not what we were expecting.

Yeah, no, it would be like if Sabrina, like I feel like, I swear it's been like at, you know, like at the top of her game for a couple more months, but like her overall energy is like very positive and happy and cheery. Yes, but Sabrina's like been in the industry in an official capacity, not at the level she's at now for a while.

So maybe like in the beginning, maybe it's like, I don't know, growing pains. You know who could do this and it really wouldn't be the biggest deal who's like kind of similar is like chapel. Thousand percent. You know what I mean? So that's why.

I could see chapel talking to people like this. Like a thousand percent. For sure. And like she set us up so that like, we won't be shocked when we hear it. So this was shocking because Jochi is like a cutie. Yeah. She seems like a nice girl.

And not good. I think like, I'm sure her fans are really upset about this. And it's just, cause it's really bad. It's like, no, you guys, the video never ends. The cursing never ends. I couldn't even make out everything she was saying. I kind of need it transcribed. Cause the only like things I can make.

I got the gist. I got the gist. It was like fucking umbrella, fucking, fucking, fucking. Fuck, fuck, fuck. But there's like more stuff that she's saying, but it's very loud. so I couldn't hear everything. I do think there are a couple of lessons from Dochi here. One of them being, if you do go to the MacGowell again,

like stay at a random facility. Like don't go to one of those like three hotels that everybody stands outside of, you know? She could have put on a huge poncho and high tailed it to the car, you know? Yeah, of course she wanted a moment. Oh, you think so? Well, yeah, because while the umbrellas were for the rain,

that entrapment, the enclosure that she found herself in was, so nobody got a picture of it. So like, why are you at the mark? She wanted her moment on the carpet, but like, do you think she also wanted this moment of like, dochies go in stealth mode? No, no, no. This is not a good look for anyone.

Well, actually it was until we heard the audio. Because yesterday, we literally clipped yesterday, like good for Dochi, she made it out of the market without anyone seeing her. That age poorly. Big time, gotta delete the clip. Like old milk. Literally.

Delete. So I think she'll be fine. I think she's talented enough to weather this storm is just unfortunate for her. And she also shouldn't speak to people like that. That would also be a good lesson, but I feel like it's just how she speaks. Agreed.

Choke. Are you ready for our next sort? Mm-hmm. It's actually something that I just saw that actually had me shocked. What? The Golden Globes is adding a best podcast category beginning in 2026.

Okay, where do we sign up? So organizers of the Golden Globes on Wednesday said that the ceremony will introduce a best podcast category beginning with the 83rd Globes in 2026. So not this year, so don't worry. However- Okay, okay. So we have a year to like become the best podcast.

Listen, the recognition for the burgeoning medium will mark a first for major film and TV award shows today. Podcasts have been recognized mostly in digital forward award shows like the Webbies, the Ambies, the I Heart Awards, the Shorties. Other awards that have podcast categories include the Peabody Awards, which we could win. Where's our Peabody? The details are few about criteria for the new category.

According to the Globes today, the top 25 podcasts will qualify for consideration. So you've got to be top 25. According to what metric? I wonder which charts they'll pull from. Like, I don't know, chartable? Chartable, I think think is like a, an aggregate of all the platforms. And like sometimes we are top 25.

Sometimes. But sometimes like if a lot of people are launching new shows, you know, we're not top 25. You need a chartable login, girl get out of here. Sometimes we're like 18 overall. Not that I check so frequently. No, I never ever check and I don't even care. I just kind of remembered that

from the last time I checked yesterday. In 2024, Charterable is shutting down. Oh, that's why I couldn't get in. That's funny. So how will they measure? I don't know, but that's up to them. That's very interesting. I think the Golden Globes like are kind of doing

the most recently because they were pretty much taken off air. They were a flop of an award show. I think they lost all their funding and there was this movement within Hollywood to get it back on TV. So people have been trying to make it a thing and I do think you have to lean in and in terms of media people are consuming, that's podcasts right now. So actually this is quite brilliant.

It's obviously a huge step, small step for Golden Globes, huge step for podcaster kind. So the top 25 podcasts will qualify for consideration with a total of six final nominations for the category. Eligibility requirements for those rankings and other details will be announced in the coming weeks. So I wonder if they're gonna focus more on like scripted podcasts,

like the ones that are like dramatized. Serial, right. Yeah, like I don't see Joe Rogan winning. Even though the top 25 podcasts, I think maybe there's one scripted one in there. All the popular podcasts right now are interview formats, they're conversational. So if they're only gonna be doing scripted ones, that's quite limiting in terms of like popular podcasts.

Yeah, of the top 25 right now, of which we are not in the top 25. We need to step our pussies up for 2026. Oh my god, I'm sick from this news. We're not. Oh, you know who would win? On Apple. You know who would win? Like, Smartless. You know what they deserve.

But it's not fair because they could win the Golden Globe for other stuff. Like, this is our shot at EGOT. It's so true. And I hope that the Grammys just, the Golden Globes, just keep that in got. It's so true. And I hope that the Grammys just, the Golden Globes just keep that in consideration. Like don't give it to people who could win the Golden Globe for acting. Jason Bateman probably has one.

They all probably have one. You know? Yeah. Give it to- I love this. Bill Simmons. Sure. Give it to Bill. Give it to like a podcaster by trade. Give it to Cryin' Junkie, you know?

Give it, give Ashley Flowers her flowers. Like give it to one of the OGs. Doesn't even have to be us. I literally in a million years never expected to be us. Please play this when we win. No, no. Please play this when we win. Please.

I never will expect for it to be us, like seriously. But I do want it to be like a tried and true podcaster. Yeah, I'm sorry. Like if it goes to Conan, I'm not down. Like if you're a SAG member, I'm not down. Agreed. Agreed. SAG members need not apply.

That's my thoughts on this, but I think this is really exciting for the industry. I agree. It's like another notch in our belt, you know, of legitimacy. A. O. A.

O. Yeah, so we'll see you in 2026, perhaps. Oh, you'll be seeing us, okay? Are you ready? If we start like, gearing up, doing lots of marketing, billboards, don't ask questions. We're vying for a Golden Globe.

Yeah, for your considerations. Yeah oh let's do it. What we have over a year. Yeah to at least wait for the photo shoot. Yeah yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Yes we're making great time I'm monitoring the clock we're gonna get to dear toasters like I just know it. Two of my faves Kristen Cavallari reveals Harry Jowsey sent her an explicit photo of his wiener. I saw the trailer for her new reality show. I believe that's where this rumor comes from. Yes, the trailer for her new E! docuseries, Honestly, Sick for Them, Sick for Page Six,

Honestly Cavallari, the headline tour, came out on Monday and it's a preview for her new show, which is a docus-series chronicling her podcast tour. She has a bunch of guests and Harry Jouzy is one of them. And she said that Harry Jouzy sent her a dick pic and that it's gigantic. I believe it. Yeah.

I ship. How about that? The way, the way Harry Jouzy had Francesca Farago, like throwing hundreds of thousands of dollars out the window on that season of Too Hot to Handle, you know he had to have like the biggest shlong on the planet. Yeah. And I feel like he's somebody who has Big Dick energy

and a big dick. He's got the dick to back it up. The equipment. Like sometimes people are like BDE and they have a micro penis, you know? I could see Harry Jowsey holding space for both things. BDE and BD. Yeah, BDI.

It's very tall. Big dick itself. BDIR, big dick in reality. Yeah. Well, Christine, I wonder if they've ever hooked up. I feel like Harry Jowsey has hooked up with everyone. Like seriously. Yeah.

He is kind of like the lower celebrity tier version of Pete Davidson. It's true. We need Harry Jowsey's memoirs. Memoirs of a Jowsey. Memoirs of a Jowsey. And he needs to write them now before he forgets everything he's experienced

in the last five years. But I actually think he hooks up with a lot of celebrities and can't really talk about it because no one would want to continue hooking up with him. I do think he hooked up with Khloe Kardashian, I do. You do. I do, why wouldn't she, just for fun? Well, I think that she should.

I don't think that they did, but I think maybe the podcasting orbit might bring them together. Oh, Jousy and Wonderland. Jousy and Wonderland. I love that, yeah, that's how they'll get together. Yeah, she'll do enough shows that she's like, okay, who else is doing shows and they're both on the same timeline.

Yeah. So let's just manifest that. And I'm just pitching the idea. Jowzy and wonderland is today's podcast title. I'm just pitching it. I love it. We'll see if anything better comes along, but that's something I could see people seeing and being like, I gotta listen. How did they get here? And how did they get out?

To be determined. We're about to find out. Well, I'm excited for Kristin's new show. If Kristin has no fans, I'm dead. Same for Harry Chowsey. That's why I'm glad that these two came together. It felt like a story for me, but weirdly every Kristin story feels like a story for me.

This is a good concept for a show and I'm happy for E because they're just like a network that literally cannot get arrested when it comes to like making decent content and having shows that are remotely successful. And they decided to invest in Kristin Cavallari a couple of years ago. And I think it's an investment that's paid off tremendously

and I think that this is a great concept. Yes, and it's the smart list concept. So let's give them their flowers. Yeah, I guess it is a smart list concept, sure. And bring back Shannon. Bring back Shannon. Get Shannon on Honestly Cavallari, whatever the show, let's be honest.

Yeah, I think it's time, but it's also so funny how like they're so intertwined, Kristin and Shannon, cause like Shannon was on Very Cavallari, if you didn't know that, which I feel like a lot of people don't know. They just know her as an influencer and podcast. Right. But she got her start as like the big bad villain

on Very Cavallari. That's where I met Shannon, cause you know I watched every episode of Very Cavallari. And Shannon, I believe has done a couple of podcast episodes like breaking down her time on the show. She did a rewatch. Yeah. But we need, we need Kristin. Like the way that like Lauren Conrad. Went on back to the show. She didn't rewatch. Yeah. But we need, we need Kristen.

Like the way that like Lauren Conrad. Went on back to the beach. Went on back to the beach with her and Steven. We need Shannon to go on. Or, you know, they both live in Nashville too. It's so easy. Manifest. Putting it out there.

Are you ready for our next story? Four? Four? Four. Yeah. Tom Brady went on Logan Paul's podcast. Who? Tom Brady. I'm out of, they said Tom, okay, sorry.

Do you know who Tom Brady is? I do, but I heard something entirely different. What'd you hear? You know, we know someone named Tom Graney. Okay. He helped us build our studio. And I'm like, Tom Graney went on a podcast, that's amazing. He's doing big things.

Yeah. Tom Grady went on Logan Paul's podcast and expresses more regret over the roast of Tom Grady. He said it was hard on his kids. Oh my God. Like this was one of the worst decisions he ever made. I never really realized, well, I didn't watch the roast and I don't like keep up with Tom Grady in the news,

but then I saw this again and he was talking to Logan Paul So I clicked and you know Giselle like fucking hated it. Yeah, what tomorrow new episode of Paul American drops Oh second to last cherish it. Oh, no, maybe I'll save them and we can maybe watch it together and have a watch party Oh, yeah, you'll come over. Okay, that's fun It's been 12 months since Tom Brady let his friends roast him for a Netflix special But he's still beating himself up over it, admitting it was fucked up to sign up

for the event. He of course let his pals throw barbs his way for nearly three hours in May, 2024, but he admitted once more this week, the jokes over his divorce with Giselle really hurt his family. He told Logan Paul on the latest episode of Impulsive, his kids were super upset over some of the jabs

and it frankly ruined his whole roast experience. He said, quote, we got done, we were everybody was on cloud nine. And I think that moment I'll never forget, you know? And I'll never forget when I talked to my kids the next day and I was like, I felt like, you know, a stake through the heart. He said his kids question why he'd get on stage

and let people make those remarks. They straight up asked him, what was the point of that? He said, there's some things as a parent you fuck up and you don't realize until after like, oh, I seriously have such a pit for him. Like I know that he fucked up. And I do seriously wonder what was the point of that? You have more money and more fame than anyone.

It's not like you needed the rehabilitation. People use the roast as like a PR thing. It was really good for Justin Bieber. I think it was very good for Alec Baldwin. He doesn't need the money. Joan Rivers said she did it exclusively for the money. It pays extremely well. She hated it.

She didn't want to do it. She knows it was horrible. They were going to make fun of her face. But you do it for a reason, whether it's money or Justin Bieber. It was very strategic. There's literally not one fucking good reason why Tom Brady needed to do it.

It's really true. It's just thirsty. It's honestly thirsty. I wonder like what his reason was at the time. I would love to know. And of course he regrets it, which is he never did it. And I have such a pit for him.

Cause that's like a big thing to regret. Like I'm like a small mistake you made in your private. And like some people have like scandals or whatever that you know they're going gonna talk about at the roast. And so much of Tom Brady's like the things he knew people are around his family, his divorce. Like it was so not the right time. I also think if you have young kids,

like you really shouldn't be doing roasts. Like when your kids are old enough to get it or even participate Ireland Baldwin, like that's a good way to do it. But when you have young kids and so much of like your public scrutiny is about your personal life and your family, like not to beat a dead horse and I know he feels bad about it, but like bad call.

Like seriously, hindsight's 20-20, but like I could have told you this. Yeah, agreed. Interesting podcast to discuss it on, The Impulsive Show. Well, then at the end of this article, it also says he's gone around town telling everyone how much he regrets it. He also went on the pivot, told Fred Taylor, Ryan Clark and Channing

Crowder in the days after the event that he was bothered. So I think he's like talking to anyone who will listen, but I actually thought it was cool that he that Logan got Tom Brady. The interview. Yeah. And isn't you remember that video American? Yeah. I mean, it just tastes.

Well, we'll say the video of Giselle getting pulled over and like having a breakdown that was like right after the roast too, right? Like it really, it was bad. Yeah. Right. Am I remembering the timeline correctly? Everyone had a bad time. Like Kim, the only person who had a good outcome was Nikki Glaser. It's so true. Oh my God. No other, so many people had like a terrible night. Yeah. It was like scarring for them. Worst mistake of their life. And now like with all these reality shows and podcasts,

we're like hearing even more. Cause we just heard about Kim's terrible experience. Now we're hearing about Tom's. I wonder who's next. Yeah. I feel like Jeff Ross had fun. Oh, he always has. He's the roast master.

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Our fifth and final story, the Valley recap. The Valley was on last night. The crew headed down to Santa Bae-bra. I actually thought that house was beautiful. Like it made me- It was beautiful. I said to Ben, we should go to Santa Barbara. Yeah, Santa Barbara is like idyllic. I think objectively- It's beautiful.

That's why like everyone wants to live there. And it's like one of the most expensive places in the country. Cause I think like the weather is like sublime. The view. I feel like they don't even have like mosquitoes, you know? Totally. Like when they were sitting outside,

everyone's like bare legged. They're not worried about bug bites. It was an interesting trip. I mean, the fact that Michelle and Jesse have to like work together like in this capacity and stay in a house together is really sick. And he's so, I'm sorry, I fucking hate him. He is so annoying.

Like even the second they get to the house handing out his stupid white flags, he thinks he's so funny, he's not. And Michelle, you need one especially. And he like, she wasn't gonna take it obviously, but he also said it with a nasty comment. So then like later on he's like, and Michelle wouldn't even take my white flag.

Well, it was stupid. And you made a nasty comment. Like then like later on he's like, and Michelle wouldn't even take my white flag. Well, it was stupid. And you made a nasty comment. Like you're so fucking annoying. And every now and then we get like little windows. He tries to be like all buff and whatever, but he's clearly like deeply, and he's not in love with Michelle anymore, but he's so hurt by this divorce.

And he like, he just can't lean into that. He has to be a prick the whole time about everything. Like the way I fucking hate him. And when he argues about anything, I think he's stupid and wrong. Like he was talking about Jacks. When he was arguing with Janet about, what did they even start arguing about?

The girlfriend. Oh right. His old girlfriend. I liked Janet so much in that moment because she was like arguing logically, like making prior points, being like, she seems nice, but she threatened my friend. So I'm gonna block her.

And he was like, well, you're telling people to block her. And she's like, I told my husband, that's not telling people. Okay, but not her husband, like not having her back in that moment. I kind of wanted to kill Mr. Janet. I know, but like Janet, it wears the pants, you know? Yes, yes, she does.

Like there's only so much Mr. Janet could do for Janet when she's like such a strong woman. Woman, yeah. And then Jesse like just starts like bringing shit up out of nowhere. That's when you know you've lost. And like, he just couldn't even have an argument with her. No, and Janet saying like, yeah, I would cheat on you.

Yeah, then he starts bringing up out of nowhere. They're talking about this random girl and her Baywatch boyfriend. And he's like, well, your friend cheated on me. Like what? First of all, we don't care. And she's like, well, you know what? I would cheat on you too if I was married to you.

Seriously, sleigh. Sleigh. Sleigh agreed. That's such a slay. There were like a lot of like stories orbiting, but for me like the main thing is Jesse and Michelle. And like when they were in that healing circle and they both like got emotional,

they were kind of both pissing me off. Cause like the question was like, what are you grateful for? And like neither of them answered it. Like they just started going on about like how they've had a hard year. And then like Jesse, then spiraling and kicking the cameras. Like, how did we, I missed how that escalated to that.

I don't know why he's now like yelling at everyone because I do feel like he puts on the waterworks for the camera. I think that's how Michelle feels too. I wish she would say it more because she only said it once. I'm trying to hold onto it, but I wish she would just like always say it. I think he like wants to be the victim on camera.

He wants to act like he would do anything for Michelle and that he loves her and that he just wants to like, you know, be in a good place. But then I think when they're in mediation and when there's no cameras, like he's a devil. Awful. I don't see you, you see windows into his devilish. He's tries to fool us.

I can't be fooled. That's why when like he's sitting there crying and you would think like, if this was a human being, like a rational human being, Michelle might even feel tender to her. Oh, he's breaking down, he's upset. Maybe this is a moment where we could reach reconciliation and just peace, but she can't even look at it.

But she knows. But she knows it's so fucking fake. So then he would go from crying where he's trying to stir up an emotional reaction from the friend group and the audience. And Michelle, yeah. And the audience too. And then he goes into his room in his panties

and starts yelling at Mr. Janet. Like he's playing, like he just Jekyll and Hyde at us. He doesn't know what to do. He should have gotten into bed and started crying and like maybe some dumb reviewers would have continued to feel bad for him, not me. Not me, no, he's so dumb. But I might have been a little more confused, like, oh, maybe, you know, the undies and he's crying.

Like, how did we get here? I was so confused when he was crying in his undies, like, and kicking everyone out. He just like wants a moment. He's literally Jax Taylor, like 2.0. He is Jax Taylor with more finesse. Yeah, yes, he's a little bit more slick. Jax can't get out of his own way.

Maybe it's like the drug addiction. And Jax fools no one. At this point, because we also know he fooled us season one. No, but for years. No, no, no, no. It took a while. But for a while, he has been like crazy. Nobody believes what he says.

He's a pathological liar. I feel like there's a lot. Whenever we recap the valley, people disagree with me. They like Jessie and they hate Michelle. But when Stassi and Jax broke up and everyone took Jax aside, remember? Like the first season, like that is like how Jesse is right now.

It's like one, we know Jax, so we're able to see through his bullshit right now, but also Jesse does have more finesse than Jax. Jax is a hothead, Jesse is not. Jax is a drug addict and an alcoholic, Jesse is not. So his judgment is impaired. He might like think he's doing the right thing to manipulate the situation,

but he doesn't realize he's manipulating no one. Speaking of Jax, that testimonial we gave was seriously one of the craziest fucking videos I've ever seen of a person. And I'm grateful that Brittany shared that he was rage texting her between seven hours of therapy and his 15 minute breaks. But I don't think I would have believed anything he said

in the video before that, but knowing that he's literally just like doing the 30 days to do the 30 days so we can get back to the show and like be crazy. He was such, like he looked so nuts. I wouldn't be surprised if he was on drugs in that video. He looked so crazy. And he's just saying like withdrawal,

he's getting so angry and he's like, I'm so glad I'm here to work on my anger. And he's getting angrier. I'm like, you're crazy. Yep. But like, I wish he's like, I know she's been through a to work on my anger. And he's getting angrier. I'm like, you're crazy. But then he's also blaming Brittany again. Yep. But like maybe it takes- He's like, I know she's been through a lot,

but I wish she would check in on me. Why the fuck would she check in on you? No, that's not hitting rock bottom if you have someone who's there for you. But maybe it takes like 15 days to be broken down. And like, of course everyone comes into this rehab resistant. Like everyone comes in and thinks they don't have a problem.

Everyone thinks they can minimally- Nobody's making this video like he's at the end of the 30 days and he's healed. I think he just wants to be on the show. I think he's flipping that he's not on the show. He even texted Brittany like, how can you do this to me? I've been working this hard for two years and you take my job away from me. Like he's so worried about the show. He's making these videos like, please put me in the show, please.

No, it's so true. I didn't realize it at the time, but when you said it last week, like so much of his hesitancy, obviously to get help is one, he doesn't think he needs it, but two, it's because it's coinciding with filming. I'm sure he was even arguing, I'll go after filming. But no, that doesn't work. You're a threat to the people around you. You have to go now.

Now, unfortunately, we do need to talk about Benji on a stick. Claudia, I'd wiped it from my memory, but I'm glad that you brought it up, because I felt like we were being like a little crazy, like harping on Benji the last few episodes. No, we weren't. But Claudia, Benji on a stick was one of the lowest moments

of entertainment that I've ever seen. And I feel like Zach is really kind of grasping to stay in the storyline because Brittany's like kind of over him. I think Brittany, like, that's your friend and like you ride for each other, but at some point you start like judging your friend for like being of over him. I think Britney like, that's your friend and like you ride for each other, but at some point you start like judging your friend

for like being horrible. And I think Britney like struggles with like, yeah, we have like history and stuff, but like you're kind of like a bad person. Like, I don't know how to grapple those two things. Also, and I'm sure this would like hurt his feelings. I think he wants to be a good one. He's a very bad reality star.

Agreed, even on Watch What Happens Live last night, I saw a couple of clips. He's trying so hard to like stir the pot. I watched Watch What Happens Live last night and I thought it was a terrible episode. And Michelle in a different way is also a bad reality star. She has nothing to give. She's not, she's like Mr. Janet, but he's not like a main character on the show. She should not be on a reality show. And even like they were playing this game of who could be Shady or Zach or Michelle. And all of her questions were about Jessie, which was so unfair because she wouldn't answer them because like she's not trying-

It makes her life hard. It makes her life hard. She's not like Jackson Brittany who have signed this like social contract that like this is gonna benefit us. So we'll throw each other under the bus. Like she doesn't, she doesn't want to do that. I respect it so much and she shouldn't do that. But she's not-

It's boring. Yeah, and like Zach was answering any single question. It was even like, who's a better friend to like Kristen or Brittany? Like his two best friends and he said who? Like- Of course, no, he is like willing to say anything or do anything to be successful.

And that's like a really scary person. Yeah, and it's also, it's not even good enough. Like it's not comedic. It's not shady. It's not giving. It's not giving what he thinks it's giving. And he even- No, and I actually agree with Brittany for like, yeah,

she could have kept to herself what Zach said that night when he was blacked out at a bar and there were no cameras around, but no, she ran until Janet. Like, sorry, you know what? I think she has like a moral compass that guides her and it guided her right to Janet. Yeah, also he was asked why he has beef with Lala Kent.

I saw that question and he didn't answer it. No, and he said, like, I just don't think our show needs other cast members. Like we have a really good cast and like the show is good. And like, he's like mad that she wants, excuse me. Excuse me, have some fucking respect. Yeah, like the show that was built like, he's like mad that she wants, excuse me, excuse me. Have some fucking respect. Yeah, like the show that was built off of Lala Ken's back, but also it makes sense that he feels that way.

Nobody else feels their position is threatened because everybody contributes to the show and the storyline. No, and he's the only one that gets left off of trips, doesn't go to Dave and Busters, didn't go to the baby moon last year. Like if he's the weakest link. So of course he's gonna be the most threatened by anyone coming in.

Cause it's like, if we're a cast of eight and I'm the eighth and you're better than me. Like, and it's just like, it's so insecure. And it's so obvious. And you should also like, if you're a good reality cast member, you would recognize Lala and Sheena will be great for the show. Value adds 1000%.

So yeah, I just, anyways, Ben Janisdick. Ben Janisdick, it was just not a good episode for Zach. Like, and he tried, I think he hates Janet more than anything in the world, but it really doesn't benefit him to be on the outs with her because Brittany's starting to take Janet's side and like, he's just getting left out of things. And that's to him, the worst thing

that could possibly happen. So he has this conversation where you just know what's killing him to take any responsibility. And he still keeps trying to put like, well, yeah, I did that stuff. Like you did stuff too. And like, she really didn't. No, she really didn't.

And she's not taking it. She's like, I didn't. Yeah, and I thought she was very magnanimous when she was like, it's big of me to even sit with him. I'm like, yes, Janet, it is big of you. Like I think she's just factual. And I'm glad that they can like move forward because at a certain point,

we can't keep arguing about the same thing. But like until Zach like, over, like, and it's, yeah, he said those things when he was blackout, maybe he didn't mean them. And like, that's not how he truly feels, whatever. Just say that. Just say that. Like, oh my God, I can't believe I said those things.

I would never say that. I don't think that. Like, I'm so sorry that that reached you. Like, just say that. I don't think that. I'm so sorry that that reached you. Just say that. Don't be like, well, no one should have told you. Right, that's not the point. No, I love Brittany. She's really a queen.

Yeah, so I'm glad they're on the cast trip. Danny's leaving tonight. He's gonna come back drunk, so we'll see what happens. I'm scared. Even though it looks like he just falls asleep. Yeah, but then the fight begins. They were trying to make something. We'll see.

I think they're just trying to like sow the seeds because I do think something later will happen. Something happens. That's what I think. I mean, I think it's time for Dear Toasters, my favorite segment of the week. It actually is my favorite segment. It is my favorite segment.

More than Cremie and Weenie? Oh no, no. You love Q and Dubs. It's my second favorite segment. But I do love how much it riles people up. People get so invested in these different scenarios. So every week Jackie and I do an advice segment. It's called Dear Toasters.

Where our listeners write in about things that they're going through. Sometimes it's relationships, sometimes it's work, sometimes it's gynecological. We have a lot of issues. And we do our best to help out the swirlies in need. If you ever need advice, you can email us, deartoasters.gmail.com.

Or you can head over to our website, thetostpodcast.com, scroll down this little Deer Toaster submission box. Both methods are totally anonymous, will never blow up your spot, and we'll do our best to get your submission right on air. Are you ready, Jax? Mm-hmm. Hey, Jackson Claude, do you think it's okay

to announce my pregnancy on a Friends Bachelorette trip? I will be with a group of college friends who I don't see often. I would love to tell them in person, but I'm worried about making the weekend about myself instead of the bride. I'll be eight weeks pregnant on the trip, which I know is early,

but these are close friends who I'm comfortable sharing with. Great question. I actually was in this exact situation when I was pregnant with Harry. I went on my friend, Sam, you all know Sam. She gave me her tomato sauce recipe. And I actually drove up with Rebecca and Dana. I told them in the car.

I wasn't planning on telling Sam because I didn't want to take away from her weekend at all. But there was a scenario where we were all talking and it just was very natural and I told her, and it was not with the whole group, I didn't make a whole announcement and the other girls on the trip were Sam's friends, not people that I'm-

So you don't know them, right? Yeah, yeah. So it was a private moment with me and my college friends and it was just the right time to tell her I hadn't planned on telling yeah. So I didn't like, it was a private moment with me and my college friends and it was just the right time to tell her I hadn't planned on telling her, but I didn't, she was so happy and it didn't take away from the weekend at all.

I wouldn't make, if you know everyone on the trip and you're saying you're all best friends, I would not make a big announcement. But if there are a couple people who you wanna tell privately, just so they can cover for you and pick up the slack and if everyone's doing shots

and they're gonna swipe yours, that's really, that is totally fine. If the moment feels right, you could tell the bride, but just feel it out. I need to know more about the bride. Some brides are so fucking crazy. Like, I can't believe you're making this day about yourself and it's like, I'm just taking a dump.

Like some of them are really like, they have a complex about any attention not being off of them and if she's that kind of crazy bride, like I would seriously just avoid it. Like there are other times. But if like your friend Sam is like extremely normal. Like you have to know the bride to make the decision. So I would let your gut,

look what kind of bride has she been thus far? Like some brides are so chill. Some brides are so fucking crazy. I would feel it out, but definitely do not make like a big announcement to the whole group. Tell like a select few people in private if it feels right, but feel it out.

Use your judgment. Use your judgment. You know the bride better than we do. Okay, next up. Hey Jackson Claude, I'm a mom of three boys, six, four and 16 months. That was a weird order, six, four and 16 months. Why is that weird?

Because she went like, oh, I guess she went down. Okay, it's just, I don't know. Okay, nevermind. I'm a mom of three boys. Prior to being a mom, my husband and I had a pretty active sex life. More recently, we've been making an effort to get it in at least one or two times per week. He's already been vocal that he thinks I should want to do it more. Most recently, I just got my period back after breastfeeding our third son for so long,

and he's getting mad at me when I tell him that it's my time of the month. I told him I obviously have no control over this, but he'll get so bad to the point of not talking to me for an hour and being salty for the rest of the day. Is this normal? Should I view this as a good thing that he wants me more or a concern that he can't go a week without it? Sincerely, a tired and confused mom.

That's so weird. Like grow up. That's like any couple anywhere. Like women get their period. Like you're on hiatus. No, no, like being mad about a period is like actually a crazy fucking like thing to do. It's like being, it's just crazy.

And while yes, I admire your ability to see the positive. It's lovely that your husband wants to have sex with you so much. At some point, it doesn't even feel like it's about you. He's just like obsessed with sex and he can't even wait for a woman to be on her period. Like maybe- When you had your active sex life before kids,

what would happen when you were on your period? Right. And if he's not interested in waiting around for a period, he should start dating men. Sorry, this is what happens when you have sex with women. Your husband's gay. And honestly, I know it's my two buttons, your husband's gay and divorce,

but seriously, your husband's being a prick. You should divorce him so he can be with a man. No, I'm totally kidding. But it also like makes sense that you guys just had like a major dry spell, cause you've been breastfeeding. Like sex is not happening during breastfeeding season. And I don't know if people like, no, yeah, no.

It's like. Why? Cause your boobs are too heavy or you're too tired. No, cause if you really want to know, it takes all the hydration out of your body. What does breastfeeding takes all the moisture from your body. Okay. I'm seeing what you're saying. And it's just not the vibe.

It's dry energy. It's not the vibe. And you're like, so like not into it. So definitely like, don't feel bad. If you guys had a long dry spell while you were breastfeeding and maybe he's trying to like, compensate makeup for lost time, but therefeeding and maybe he's trying to compensate. Make up for lost time. Make up for lost time,

but there will be plenty of sex to have. He needs to like, he needs a stern talking to. He needs to be spoken to in a direct and kind of harsh way. Like, could I be doing more? I'm feeding our children with my literal body. I'm putting up with you and your insane sex drive and I'm having my period. Get the fuck off my back.

I would just throw a bloody tampon at him. Love that. Hey, babe, can you get me a coffee? And instead of a coffee stirrer, it's your bloody tampon. Like, I'm just so sick of it. I'm sick of it, too, for you. Imagine how she feels. No, totally. Like, could she be doing more?

And now she's worried about him. Girl, you need to stop being worried about him. He's seriously crazy. Your period is a break. And it's not even a whole week. Like, it's a few days. Well, some people's are. But like it's really five days.

And you know what? Maybe take some advice from Jackie O. If you free bleed into a pad, your period is shorter. I find. You could have sex with your husband quicker. She deserves her time off. Girl, use a tampon. You deserve a whole week from your crazy ass husband

and his insane sex drive. I guess it's good that he wants to his insane sex drive. Okay, this thing- I guess it's good that he wants to have sex with her. Yeah, of course, I said, and I appreciate her ability to see the class half full. It is nice to be wanted, but I'm sorry, this is unreasonable. Yeah, I agree.

The sex one's a little sensitive, it's a little touchy. Dear toasters, I love my boyfriend. We've been dating for two years, he is great. However, when we first started dating, one of my favorite things about him was that he was very masculine. Over time, he has started to talk, text, and act a lot more feminine, if that makes sense.

It comes across as kind of like whiny and annoying to me. How do I tell him? Ooh. Well, what do you have to say, Claudia? Obviously. Your boyfriend's gay. But let me offer a rebuttal. Okay.

Maybe like your boyfriend, cause like the other day, Ben said something. I was like, how was the thing? He was like, it was fabulous. I said, excuse me? So he said it was fabulous. And it's because I say fabulous is one of my favorite words that like when you're so close with someone,

you do start to rub off So maybe this is your influence on him. I had the same thought like if you guys are best friends You're talking all the time He starts to talk like you because like I thought I hear that even like with exactly I do feel like our husbands like say things like, you know, not that he's saying pargy yet But like no, but when ben said fabulous, I was like too far. I said watch your mouth Um, how do you scale it back? Like you kind of can't.

No, but you should like encourage him to like listen to like a manly podcast and manly radio. Buy him a truck. Yeah. And then, Oh, what are the boys doing tonight? Wrap some dirt in it. I don't start talking like a man. Yeah, no, you can't, you can't start being manly.

But I'm way more influential. Women are just more influential. Right, right. There is also the possibility that he's gay. And that he's becoming gayer. Right, and it's like, at first- With every breath he takes. At first he could hide it well,

and now it's just oozing out of him because he's gay, and it's hard to live a life like that. And maybe he was like, uber masculine before is like a front, you know, and he was right. But now he has this girlfriend. So nobody's looking at him anymore. He can be himself.

I need to know like how girly things are getting. Yeah. Yeah. There's space for like a little girliness. I do think I think like there, I agree. Every man has like a couple ofiness, I do think. I think like there's- I agree. Every man has like a couple of girly traits. Just funny girly things about them. 1000%.

And I think like toxic masculinity is very real. Like some men are such losers, like the way they can't even remotely be like emotional or feminine, like get a grip. So I think there's a balance, but of course you weighed into like girly gay territory. You're just like, I'm not a lesbian. Right.

So it's like, how do I respect your personality while also respecting my sexuality? I think that you, this needs to be a covert mission. You know, I don't think there's a conversation that could be had that would be incredibly awkward. I agree, you sound crazy. You sound crazy. It's a covert mission.

We're getting masculine influences in the home. Yeah, yeah. Put up like a Hulk Hogan poster, buy some creativity and get like some dumbbells for the garage, you know? Hey. And like get those really toxic video games, you know, where like they're like stealing cars and like-

Like Grand Theft Auto. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it. The one where they steal cars. No, the ones that like they do the studies on that are like bad for men, like shooting, Call of Duty. Call of Duty, Cod for sure. Get a lot of really toxic influences. Maybe get an Andrew Tate subscription or something.

Maybe not. I'm kidding, I'm completely kidding. But yeah, a couple of more, you know, stereotypical male tings. Yeah. That's rough. That is rough, cause that's really, it's like an arbitrary

issue. It's not like, Oh, you don't pick your towels up. Like it's like, you're kind of girl. I don't know how, how you honestly, I'm kind of at a loss. I'm at a loss for actual tangible advice. Honestly. How do we turn the tide back? It's only gonna get worse Yeah And like only you can answer this but like is he gay like or is like there are signs when you're with a partner Who's it closeted like a lot of them have to do with sex So like or like when he does or says something that's like really really girly and unattractive to you You could just be like that was really girly like think yeah, if it's the first it occurred to you Yeah, yeah, but that was kind of girly Like think, like as if it's the first it occurred to you. Yeah, yeah, that was kind of girly.

I just like make him insecure about it. Yeah, but there are lots of signs. It's kind of like how Kris Jenner says, she used to see there a couple of times that, you know, she walked in on Caitlin, like stuffing a bra and wearing women's clothes in the garage, the girl saw it too. So there are signs you would, if there was, you know,

an actual sexuality thing going on here, you would know. Or just keep an eye out for it. I agree, but it could also just be like, you're very influential and hysterical and everyone wants to be like you. And you guys are best friends. Ergo, he's becoming a woman. Correct.

And that's kind of like the blessing and the curse of being in such a strong relationship. And being just such a strong, powerful woman. Correct, with lots of influence. Thank you to everybody who wrote into the Dear Toasters. Yeah, do you wanna do one more? Let's see. Hold on, I have more here.

I felt like we're like robbing the DTs. They'll be so happy. And I do think they'll shut their pie holes if we give them four. Okay, wait, let me find a good one. I have a bunch on the stocking. You're welcome. Wow, I can't believe that came from one. I have a bunch on the stocking. You're welcome. Wow, I can't believe that came from you.

I don't know why I just felt like two. We were having so much fun. Okay, hi Jackson Claude. My in-laws recently told me they feel like I'm too good for them, which really hurt, especially since I've always tried to be kind and felt we had a good relationship. Like you think you're too good for them?

Yeah, like she acts like she's too good. Got it, not like you're too good for us. Please, like go on. No, no, no. We're low down rotten. We live in a very small town, just down the road from them. We are together all the time, so this tension feels really heavy.

One example they mentioned is being offended that I don't bring my almost one-year-old to them to watch. The truth is, I just prefer to care for him myself, not out of judgment, but personal choice. How do I maintain a healthy relationship with him and not come across like I'm acting too good? Oh, that's such a tough criticism. Especially when you don't feel like,

you don't look down your nose at these people, I'm assuming, cause it's bothering you. Like a snob wouldn't care that someone, yeah, I am too good for you, glad you noticed. Thanks for noticing. And it's like, how do you prove yourself against that without like, you know, crawling up their ass and like just being so, you know.

Cause then you look guilty. Yeah. And I don't know like the babysitting thing, like I would need to know more, but I can understand why maybe someone's level of care is like not your preferred level of care. And like, you know, child care is so personal. I'm not gonna dog you on that.

I don't know, I would be mindful of the things that you say and do and how they could come across, but like you can't really like prove yourself against a negative like that. I know, so I would just like if it comes up again, just being like, I just wanna let you know like from the bottom of my heart, I don't feel that way. If it comes across like that, like I will work on it,

but just so you know, like in your soul, I don't feel that way at all. Like I love you, like I will work on it. But just so you know, like in your soul, I don't feel that way at all. Like I love you guys. I think that's a really like kind thing to say and hopefully they take kindly to it. But yeah, I think just, you know, opening up your heart. That's kind of like such a rude thing to say. Like unless you are like such a snob.

But I'm not getting that vibe. Cause it's obviously bothering you. Enough to write into your toasters. Oh, you think Victoria wrote in? I think Nic, yeah Nicola wrote in. Yeah. David and Victoria down the road, small town. They live in like the English countryside.

Yeah. Damn. You're not so slick Nicola. Except for the one month old. Slickala. Imagine she wrote into dear toasters about her in-law issues, please. Did you see that the in-law issues,

the rumors are now, it's actually not a Victoria and Nicola thing, it's a Brooklyn and Romeo thing. Romeo's girlfriend used to date Brooklyn. So I saw those were the rumors as a few days ago. Today, the new rumor is that Nicola does not like the way that David and Victoria speak to and treat Brooklyn. They say they berate him.

David gets on the phone with him for an hour and just yells at him. They said, they called them both narcissistic and performative that David and Victoria are the issue. And I'm just like, well, where is this coming from? Like team Nicola? And where did the Romeo rumors come from? They said that Romeo's girlfriend used to date Brooklyn and now like they're all mad. And where did the Romeo rumors come from?

They said that Romeo's girlfriend used to date Brooklyn and now like they're all mad. Even though like Brooklyn's remarried, if he's literally mad about his ex-girlfriend, that's like a huge issue. What I read was that, and I also read that that would be like a tiny part of the larger issue. That's not the whole thing,

but that Brooklyn used to date this girl, he thinks she has like bad intentions and he like is like questioning Romeo's relationship with her. And the family's bringing her around. They're just like letting her in. He's like, guys know like this girl is bad news and they're not listening to him.

But then I've also read that that is small potatoes. Compared. Compared to David and Victoria. I just need to know what's going on. There are certain pop culture stories. I care deeply about like knowing the truth and speculation doesn't work for me. I need facts.

The problem is, is that it's something where it's like, if you spoke to Nicola, you would get one, you would get her truth. And if you spoke to David and Victoria, like you would get a whole other story where it's like, they're just missing each other. And I can see a reality in which like Victoria and David are like really crazy berating parents,

but I could also see a reality in like, what we've heard about Nicola for years that she's a nasty woman. She's a brat and she's really rude. So I could see both of them being the problem. And they said that every time David and Victoria try and talk to Brooklyn or have a reprochement, Nicola just jumps in and defends Brooklyn.

And so they don't wanna talk with her around. Got it. So they will not have a conversation with the two of them. It's Brooklyn or bust, but that doesn't work for Brooklyn because he stands by his lady. I feel like we actually are getting to like, what's going on.

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