The Toast - Justice for Arielle Charnas: Friday, December 9th, 2022

Episode Date: December 9, 2022

Business Insider Drops Arielle Charnas Story Nick Carter Responds to Underage Rape Allegations From Autistic Fan (Page Six) Taylor Swift Making Feature Directing Debut For Searchlight Pictures (Variety) ‘Beauty & The Beast: A 30th Celebration’ To Debut on ABC on December 15th (Mickey Blog) ‘The Price of Glee’ Investigates the Deaths of 3 Stars, The Shows ‘Curse’ (NY Post) The Toast with Jackie  (@JackieOshry) and Claudia Oshry  (@girlwithnojob)  NLOG Tickets Merch The Toast Patreon Girl With No Job by Claudia OshrySee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to the Toast and Happy! Friday, Friday, gotta get down on Friday. Everybody's looking forward to the weekend, weekend. Friday, Friday, getting down on Stride-ay. That's right. It's Friday. It's Stride-ay. It's Bride-ay. It is the end of the week. Bruno's in studio. Jackson and Claude are finally back together.

Oh my God. They tried to keep us apart this week. Well, we were technically together on Wednesday. We literally never even got to recap my special. Like, not to make Friday about me, but like, we were together here Monday, Tuesday. Wednesday, I took the day off and we had Dumois, a totally different person. A different person than Claudia. There's nothing in common between the two, even though they both talked about SVU, John

Mayer, and how funny Claudia is. We did. But that just goes to prove that powerful women all have that in common. It's called a coincidence. And I heard once that a coincidence is God's way of staying anonymous. It's also Dumois' way of staying anonymous. I never heard that. Yeah, isn't that nice? Cute. I read it, I think. anonymous. It's also Dumois' way of staying anonymous. I've never heard that.

Yeah, isn't that nice? Cute. I read it, I think. Cute. It's literally a coincidence. And then Thursday, yesterday, I woke up in a tizzy. Harry had to go to the doctor. Counts stood in.

She did a great job, by the way. People were living for it. I was listening on our way to our photo shoot. We did a shoot. Yeah, because we're models and we do photo shoots, you guys, because everybody wants us to be the face of their brand. What can we say? Absolutely, everyone. And it did, I kind of realized something yesterday. And I want to preface this by saying I realized that absolutely nobody's offering me this job. But the way I would never want to be a model, like we were just on set for so long. And like most of being a model is like waiting around for everything to be

ready, you know? Yeah. And then like being in uncomfortable positions and like being like it does this look good I can't see and everyone's yelling at me and telling me that I don't look good also I think the worst part about being a model is that it's not an easy job whatsoever but nobody feels bad for you nobody respects you nobody feels bad for you ever ever no you can't complain offset if you want to be like my job like I was modeling really hard today like I'm sure you were Bella I'm sure you were you know yeah so justice for the models honestly no justice for the fellow models for the fellow models and the coal miners and the coal miners um also justice for Arielle Charnas which is something we're really going to get into today we've been talking about this all week kind of being at the center of this story not to make like her life about us But Jackie and I

You know what we have? We have a dream and a printer So we have this We have the Charnas files The 20 page article That was so dumb And so really poorly written And so overhyped

We have printed it It was behind a paywall So we'll give you all the details you need to know So you don't have to pay that $1 for the trial. It's not worth it. And I don't feel like we should be financially supporting poor journal yellow. We shouldn't be financially supporting muckrakers. No, not at all. You guys, this is 20 pages of nothing burger-ness. So if you were hungry, you're going to stay hungry because there's nothing here except for Business Insider exposing themselves. And we have to get into all the details

Because there are a lot of details Some that are like interesting Some that are just like relatable influencer tings And things that actually made me laugh out loud Yeah no there's a lot to discuss There's a lot to discuss But overall like the arc of this week Has been justice for Ariel Charnas

Like I can't believe the Level The roller coaster Like the fever pitch that things reached Like the embezzling Four to five million dollars according to Dumont no totally secret sex club multiple partners i've never been with multiple partners in my life it's all coming out this week and then we got this piece of duty that basically said that ariel charnas's brand is maybe not as successful as they would

have hoped it is you know and it's like we're so So But like Are you like living In the same economy That we all are Like why are you surprised Business Insider Aren't you a business publication Aren't you aware That we're in a recession

And that retail is just Not what it once was Yeah my takeaway From this article Was that Ariel Charnas Is an American And she's suffering Just like the rest of us

Okay Economic turmoil Dark economic times Yeah Okay there's so much To get into And we will get into it There's also just great stories rest of us. Okay. Economic turmoil. Dark economic times. Yeah. Okay. There's so much to get into and we will get into it. There's also just great stories. Catching up with Jax.

How has your week been in New York? It's almost over. It's not been the week that I had planned. It's been extremely exhausting and I'm looking forward to going home. I know. It's just been a lot with Harry was really, really sick and he's doing better. It's just like it's I would rather him be sick at home and we can have like everything we need.

No, I know. No. And then it's instead of like trying to order overnight everything from Amazon. No. And then like you came to town for all these fabulous things. The toast TBG awards. Harry sick. Couldn't go.

Yeah. And we had like fun things planned for Harry because it's such a fun time of year in New York and like nothing happened. No, I know. But I did get good work stuff done. Like it was good doing the toast together.

We did have this photo shoot because we are models. I got to see your special taping and I got to do the toast with Dew even though technically I could have done it from Florida.

You got to do with my best friend Dew. You and Dew are like best friends now texting. Do-ta-do-mois. Do-ta-do-ta-do-mois. Yeah, honestly, the episode was really fun. So that like a fun treat but i technically could we did it over

face time so i could have done that from home uh but other than that yeah it was just not what you know what but man plans god laughs so true so it's sixth season out there and that's just what happens yeah no everyone wash your hands like you're disgusting no but like it's that's just that time for the course it's flu season like it's i'm really hoping rsv season i'm really hoping i don't get sick but like if you did so you get sick i know it's part of life no i know but like the thing about me is like i'm just um a complaining annoying person yes how did you know and you just like can't stand to feel off. Slightly inconvenienced, like.

But you get to be in bed when you're sick. So true. And you could read and watch TV. And Ben has to bring you everything, which is so different. So different than my normal life. Because I'm never in bed. And Ben never brings me anything.

Ben never brings you stuff. No, no, never. It's actually one of my biggest gripes with him. And I feel like you don't like being sick because like you don't like soup. Oh my God. I literally hate soup. I think it's it's you know what? If God is staying anonymous with his coincidences with soup, he's literally making you drink

his urine. Like I think soup is so disgusting. And the annoying thing about it is like it really makes you feel better. Yeah, it does. Like I'll never forget. I like recently I had strep so bad. And after like four days, like I finally drank soup. And when I tell you my throat instantly felt completely fine that's so funny if you had to have soup what's

your favorite kind chicken noodle like with all the schmutz like give me a matzo ball give me chicken give me pasta so i could like eat everything yeah give me everything inside so like i can eat the meat and not the soup but you might get soup via the sponge of the matzo right the broth is what really it is truly penicillin. Jewish penicillin. But I hate it. Like, I hate soup. And there's not like. And I hate tea.

There's not another kind of soup that you like. I don't even want to say this because I know the answer. Lentil. No. French onion. I guess it's. Butternut squash. Another soup that I kind of like is when my ice cream's all melted and I can slurp it.

That's really good. Especially if there's like sprinkles in there a little crunch no but that's not good for your throat no dairy is not good for your throat produces mucus yeah yeah no i have like a lot of throat problems because i'm a 30 almost 30 year old woman with tonsils i actually woke up this morning and my throat it feel like i'm okay if my throat usually is at 100 like today it's at like 85 so that's just the beginning of probably me getting what's been going around but i'm just grateful that i didn't get it while you were here and wasn't able to not take care of harry or work so if i go home and i'm sick then

next week if you guys if i drop off you know there will come a day because i'm like very nervous about getting surgery but there's a few surgeries that i absolutely need to get and there will be a day when i will just walk into new york presbyterian Hospital have them put me under and get myself my tonsils taken out probably my wisdom teeth too a breast reduction liposuction um maybe a facelift like I will do it all in one and I'll be out of commission for probably a month there'll be no toast but one day like I will get all the surgeries that I need but I'll get them done in one fell swoop there will be no toast and that's kind of why i've been pushing it off yeah because i work so hard yeah even though like there's a lot of problems with

everything you just stated but sure what do you mean like what you're gonna have the dentist there working on your wisdom teeth while the plastic surgeons they're working on your breast and then the other plastic surgeon down working on my fupa yeah liposuction is it's not you it's like outpatient no it's not it's not there are outpatient liposuctions but like for what the procedure i need to have done i'm going to be fully under and i'll have three or four doctors working on me at the same time okay you hopefully get they get along they don't start they all have standing there with knives i just need a really really good anesthesiologist just to make sure like you know i'm like nervous and this is you should have dr tiffany moon totally you can add this to my favorite stories like why i'm afraid

of anesthesia nip tuck yeah that episode of yeah added to the list that episode and you can also add ariel charnas being a co-vidiot to my favorite stories list because that's a hill i'm certainly willing to die on yeah um yeah that is one of my favorite stories and one of the reasons why i'm like afraid to get my tonsils taken out is because that episode of Nip Tuck where that girl has like this very adverse reaction to anesthesia. Anesthesia. Anesthesia? That sounds like anesthesia. I know. Anesthetic? No no but what's the word? Anesthesia. Anesthesia. Anesthesia? Anesthesia Romanoff? Anesthesia. Romanoff. Okay whatever to the To the anesthetic. Nip-tuck anesthesia. Where she's awake the whole time, but physically paralyzed.

So she feels, hears, and sees everything. And then when I first started dating Ben, and we went to his extended families for the first time, one of his cousins is an anesthesiologist. And when you're meeting a family for the first time, you're always looking for somebody to talk about. So I figured Common Ground with the anesthesiologist would be this episode.

And I was ready for him to make me feel better. He's like, well, it is like an urban legend but it's not entirely impossible. Yeah. I don't know if I've asked you this but on the episode

was the patient a redhead? Yes. How do you know that? Because redheads have a high or like a higher tolerance for anesthesia. If you're a natural redhead and you're going under

like they need to know. She was a redhead. So you don't have to worry about it. I do. Oh. Plot twist. twist oh my god not you stealing my story stealing your fear wait yes she was redhead yeah it's a redhead thing i'm shook i feel like we've had this conversation before it's it's feeling familiar yeah i feel like we have and i feel like i've told you that redheads are like special in a negative way when it comes down to seating you like just don't care and you just keep making it about you and like you never think about me no i never think about you and you know who else is a redhead bryson strice it's true oh my god okay well glad we settled that

like when theo went under for his teeth cleaning there was a very special like fancy um anesthesiologist on set i'm on set on on the floor in the room um what's it called No it's like There's a word It's like orchestra In the No no but there's like A really nice In the operating room Word

For when you're in The operating room It's like orchestra Or something Something like that Yeah Hold on No no no

It's an itch I must scratch Oh you brought your iPad today Even though everyone's like You fucking bitches Talk about Ariel Charnas Yeah no we will talk about Ariel Charnas

And you're gonna be begging us To stop Okay When Theater Theater Theater for surgery You fucking bitches talk about Ariel Charnas. Yeah, no, we will talk about Ariel Charnas. And you're going to be begging us to stop. Theater. Theater for surgery. Hold on, let me just confirm. You'll be fine. An operating theater, also known as the operating room. Didn't that feel good, guys?

Not really. Felt good for me. Now I can move on. We will talk about Ariel Charnas. We will talk about the new Beauty and the Beast remake. We will be talking about Taylor Swift's directorial debut There's much to discuss There's actually trash motherfucking stories yesterday

And I don't know if you listened to the whole episode But like did you feel my call about like Margot Like what is Margot like in pop culture I understood what you meant To a degree But I also understood why Margot was like are you kidding me Because also she's constantlyantly like going so hard For the things that she loves

Like on her Instagram and stuff Like it's very clear What she loves I know but like What she loves like Wasn't a story about Honestly It's upsetting

That she didn't Host today Because there's a story today About Zac Brown From the Zac Brown band Yeah No that's what she would Give a shit about

Yeah Like I don't Like I really couldn't Pinpoint what her interests are In pop culture That's not like Charlie No she wouldn't care about Whoopi Goldberg not wanting posh movies made. Thank you.

Yeah. Thank you. And it's not like she cares so much about like Charli D'Amelio. It's not because she's young. It's just because she's specific. Yeah. But we had a great time. And actually, the toasters really came to Margo's defense about referencing the state of Pennsylvania as PA.

That's a thing normal people do. And all the toasters from PA were like No literally everyone says that So Margo was justified In saying that and the man on her date was just a dick Where was where in PA was he from I don't know I didn't ask because I feel Like if he was from like Philly or

Like the surrounding suburbs like they Don't call it PA because Rebecca's from Technically Pennsylvania PA but She's never called it that But that's just because She's not from real PA Right that's actually A really good call

Maybe it's like a County by county moment Yeah and he was exposing himself As just being so insular And living in a bubble Yeah not you thinking small Couldn't be you I feel like we should

Just get into it Like we absolutely Like I have not been able To think of anything But Ariel Charnas and when I tell you literally I love that like you know we have established ourselves both you know in the world and also in our personal lives as experts on everything that goes on on the internet but when I tell you like I thought I've been thinking so much about Ariel Charnas we've been talking about on the podcast like every single person has been texting me like what do you know like some like influencers friends from real life like what's going on and

it's like I have to explain to everyone just because I feel justified like I feel defensive like I need people to think like everything you've heard about Ariel Charnas is not true right so normally people text me I'm like I'm not gonna answer I would be like honestly I can't even talk about it you should have like a set blurb ready to go and then after today can you send them this episode right because like all the things that were said like people probably didn't follow up with the article and just assume like yeah he was embezzling and they are getting divorced and that that ain't right because that's like actually someone's life yeah so the headline here is that everything all of the rumors that were circulating this week about Ariel Charnas are not true and the article that was being written is really honestly

it's there's for me there's nothing in there that's actually newsworthy that was my major takeaway from this whole saga there were two takeaways one it's like this article like I'm not really sure what the point was because it's just like her business is not doing well and that's for a variety of reasons I'm sure the economy has a lot to do with it I'm sure maybe poor management has to do with it whatever the reason is the company's not doing well and I don't know that there's an article written every time a company doesn't do well I don't work it's company it's not like her company Like went under and nobody knew it's like They're having a bad quarter like are you Gonna write about every company that's not right so I didn't understand how that was not happy with their Results this quarter that was my takeaway and then my other Takeaway is just like the general Behavior the glee not

Even the glee just like this is really a can be A case study on like how damaging anonymous Gossip is and how Forums like reddit are actually so damaging and so dumb and so full of lies and people really need to adjust how they regard information that they find out on the internet because it's fucking not true yeah i feel like until you experience the cycle of like seeing something that you know is like categorically false um then until that happens and that happened for everyone here today so hopefully it's a watershed moment until that happens like you read something you're like where there's smoke there's fire and then also like

juma did give like an air of legitimacy to some of these claims because like she is the go-to source for a lot of things so i wonder what she's thinking after last night like either she doesn't usually talk about influencers and now she's like either she doesn't usually talk about influencers and now she's like wishing she didn't right either you know the people who are writing into her don't know shit about fuck or you know business insider could improve some of these allegations uh so they left it out so that and it just I don't know but business insider is like known to be like really shady with their like journalism so I feel like if there were allegations they had like a little bit of proof on but not like fully like they don't care like they put shit out all the time that's like fraudulent like

they're known to be like because they did this throughout the article like so-and-so said something really fucking nasty but we couldn't verify it like but it's out there then right if there was so-and-so said that Brandon Charnas embezzled and that's how he's paying for their life a lot like that would have been a paragraph right no and it's like the the pull quote that everyone's taking is like Ariel Charnas is the Bernie Madoff of the fashion industry like as if like a million people said that and it was like one disgruntled vendor said it and so to make a blanket statement and like that's like the pull quote that's all over Twitter like I just feel like this article is so unnecessarily like targeting and and intentionally trying to damage

an already damaged business no and like do you not know what Bernie Madoff did? Right, like, come on. Because if you knew, then that's just like a bad comparison. No, then it's just kind of insensitive. It's a bad metaphor. Yeah. So let's get into it and the Fast Five. It's going to be a great day here.

Yep. Because you know what I smell? Justice. I smell justice. And you know what it smells like? Heaven. Yep. Without further ado, here are the Fast five stories that you need to know.

And today's episode is brought to you by Kitsch. When did beauty get so complicated? So much time, too much money, and not enough products that work for you. And that's why Kitsch was created. To simplify self-care and beauty products that give you a major boost so you can go on to your next thing. Kitsch offers game-changing, time-saving beauty essentials for hair, skin, and body. Whatever your budget, your skin type, your hair type, Kitsch believes that you deserve

little indulgences and affordable prices morning, noon, and night. So their best sellers at Kitsch include satin pillowcases, eye masks, and caps, which if you are a rough sleeper like myself and you wake up with hair that might as well have not been done the night before, really think about getting satin hair accessories. It'll make a huge difference in how you wake up. They also have shampoo and conditioner bars, which are all a part of Bottle Free Beauty. Heatless satin curl rollers went viral on TikTok. I've got them. They genuinely work. You can reduce the heat damage to your hair.

And their classic hair ties and scrunchies. So Kitsch is your one-stop shop for all your holiday gifting, your family, your besties, and all the resties who deserve a little something special this year. Right now, Kitsch is offering discounts site-widewide anywhere from 25% off all the way to 60% off all of the month of November when you go to mykitsch.com slash toast. You heard it here first, that's discounts up to 60% off certain items at mykitsch, M-Y-K-I-T-S-C-H.com slash toast. Plus, Kitsch has daily flash sales, unbelievable deals, so check back often. One more time, that's mykitsch. daily flash sales unbelievable deals so check back often one more time that's mykitsch.com slash toast for huge holiday discounts everything you need for holiday

gifting or treating yourself also check out their claw clips if you've got like big thick hair and your hair doesn't fit in claw clips the ones from Kitsch are really stellar and they will fit your entire hair today's episode is also brought to you by Manscaped it must be a holiday miracle because the sponsor of today's show Mansca, are stuffing your stockings with everything you need in your life and everything you could ask for. That's right. This holiday season, Manscaped has vowed to make sure that your man's ornaments are shining bright and his tree is standing tall. Spice up his stocking with gifts he'll actually use and something that you can enjoy, too. If you don't believe in Santa, you better believe in this.

They've changed 7 million men for the better. And you can get 20% off and free shipping by going to manscaped.com slash toast. Manscaped bestselling products are the Performance Package 4.0, which is at the top of every man's wishlist this year. Ben has it. He's had it for a while. It is his favorite thing by far. It has everything inside that you could possibly need.

The Lawn Mower Body Trimmer, the best trimmer on the market for balls, back, chest, the list goes on. The Weed Whacker, which is an ear and nose hair trimmer, which is really more for the lady than for the man, but we all win nonetheless. And their famous liquid formulas, like the Crop Preserver Ball Deodorant, a Crop Reviver Ball Toner. It'll keep them smelling nice down there,

and they're the perfect fit for any stocking. If you want to save 20% off and free shipping, go to manscaped.com slash toast, 20% off and free shipping at manscaped.com slash toast. Cheers to rocking the best gifts this holiday season. A gift for him, but really a gift for you. Again, that's manscaped.com slash toast. Make sure you hurry up to their site and ensure that these gifts show up before the holiday season and make sure you're using the 20% off and free shipping at manscaped.com slash toast. Whether this is for your partner, your dad, your brother, your friend,

get them something they will actually use and it's almost sure to get a laugh after all who doesn't like opening a ball of deodorant under the christmas tree i truly think that's what santa wanted i really do honestly santa wants and santa needs manscaped yeah i heard santa has smelly balls but you didn't hear it from me yeah and all that running around gossip i heard santa like uses manscaped when he can find the time Because Mrs. Claus is like Get that smelly gooch out of here No Mrs. Claus runs a tight ship

You know who else runs a tight ship? On some days Except she couldn't get Her disgruntled employees in check Ariel Charnas you guys Our first story of the day Is the story on Everybody's lips

The Business Insider article That has been A rumor to drop This week Has finally dropped And the headline is Ariel Charnas' company Something Navy

Is floundering Amid dwindling sales And employee exodus And furious suppliers So when this article First came out And I saw the headline I was like

I knew it I knew like everyone Was talking about literally nothing that's what I was saying on the Toast yesterday I'm like we're all getting so bent out of shape and there's No article yet so like once the article comes Out and everything is in there we can while out Right but until then like we all need to seriously calm the Fuck down and given the rumors that we heard this Week like the headline would have been

Of course embezzlement cheating Ariel Charnas' husband Brandon Charnas Arrested at Polo Bar In Miami Right Amid embezzlement Claims four to five million dollars And they're getting divorced

So the second I saw this headline I was like Oh my god Big nothing burger And you know what If you had asked me Like a week ago How do you think that

Something Navy's Like clothing company is doing I probably would have said Like not great I'm always getting Targeted Facebook ads for it And like honestly This stuff isn't my style And it just didn't pop off in the way

that like maybe it could have so I think I could have told you that like it's not that successful which isn't a crime and it's not that big of a deal especially because what I thought was actually like an interesting piece of information that was in this dumbass motherfucking article not all influencer brands survive model and tv presenter alexa chung who has quadruple in instagram followers as charnas shut down her fashion brand in march after five years influencer tati westbrook closed her beauty brand in 2021 after just two years see something navy seems to be struggling with the paradox familiar to influencer run brands yeah that's definitely a thing so i didn't really feel like this was that explosive

the thing that everyone Is like latching onto Is you know Vendors and writers And models claiming That they haven't been paid Even though once Insider had reached back out To this you know

Unnamed Indian vendor He claimed that his 365,000 dollar bill Actually was paid So thanks Insider For getting people paid Right Also there are like

Some models Some freelancers That it took a while To get paid But they did get paid It just was like A long pay period There's a model

Who still claims That she hasn't been paid $2,000 And there are like Startups are notorious For taking a long time To pay people And even just like

Big companies in general Not even startups This is like startup culture Like you will pay a vendor When you absolutely have to Like that's startup um and even enormous like fashion brands do that like getting vendors paid and it's not that doesn't mean it's right but it is kind of like the the way of working especially in fashion like you get paid and then you'll finally get your vendors paid like it takes a long time um and so the article starts out talking about her birthday

parties and her kids birthday parties and vendors are seeing this who haven't been paid and the article also like self owns by saying like the parties are sponsored and they were like profitable for the company. So it's not like they're spending all of this company money on lavish parties. The parties are actually money making things for the company. And I don't know why they were focusing so much on the parties when a yes they were profitable for the company. Anybody who was watching it on social media could have told you that it was sponsored like that I thought Don Julio was a sponsor the kids party was so sponsored like the whole thing was I think one company I forget but I remember seeing it and being like oh how nice to have a free kids party right and so like the employees in here were disgruntled that like they were as a part of their job pitching

brands to sponsor the party even though the party was profitable for the brand that's your job to make money for the brand. No. And it literally said that Ariel was using her personal money to pay for some of the party stuff. And then they would, the company would make money on the partnership side. So it's like Ariel's actually operating at a personal loss so that the company can make money from her birthday party. So, and here's the thing that I found so interesting. It was like, you know, there are models out here. Who like haven't been paid.

But then Ariel is wearing. You know. Two thousand dollar boots. And that definitely doesn't look great. I agree. But I feel like. And the article really glossed over. The fact that like.

There was a ten million dollar investment. Made in this company. It is not Ariel's company. She is the face of it. They even said. She's never in the office. It's not her company. Also.

I think the most interesting thing. In this article. Is that Ariel. Is a minority stakeholder now. In something. She's the face of it. So the article In this article is that Ariel is a minority Stakeholder now in Something she's the Face of it so the Articles thesis is that

Ariel's checked out That's how it literally Ends it's like what Would you be checked Out of a company you Now own five percent Of or whatever the Last sentence the come

There's no future for The company because I Don't think there's a Company without Ariel And at the end of the Day Ariel is just over It one like you don't Fucking know how Ariel

Feels about it too she's The minority stakeholder And it like it's up To something Navy now to spread its wings And fly as a brand because that launched Off her back and also this article shows How like influencer brands can only be Successful if eventually the influencers Remove from it and someone's just walking

Into a something Navy store who has no Idea what the Instagram account is so it Looks like that's what they're all Trying to do here but now they're That Ariel's not a part of it no but the Thing is the thing is is like people just get obsessed with like influencers and like want to blame Arielle because she's rich and later there's like you know a writer who hasn't been paid and I'm not saying that that's right but you have to think about it like okay she's a minority

she it's her the company was launched off her back but she's like a minority minority owner that's like you're like an uber employee not getting paid and people like well Gary Vaynerchuk was flying private it's the exact same thing while like she is the face of the company it's not her company a 10 million dollar investment in a brand that hadn't even had any sales yet she probably owns so little of this company so we need to get a little perspective yeah then also insiders upset that she doesn't wear enough of her own clothes and that she's quote increasingly detached from her own business people say more often photograph wearing designer pieces like $2,600 Hermes boots and a 3,900 leather jacket from Kate the clothing brand other than her own brand for a jacket

um what's new there isn't that why people follow her to begin with and why she gained such influence because like she has access to the clothing nobody ever will you know it's always been like this what's the word I'm always looking for with an a aspirational aspirational content so I don't know why everyone's acting like this is a big surprise now I completely agree I feel like her thing has always always always been like wearing a really nice coat wearing really nice shoes and a really nice bag and yet there might be something maybe sweater under it what sweater did she wear with the jacket and by the way that's what I'm saying about the whole article it's like okay

the company is failing and i do think part of the reason the company is failing is because ariel doesn't wear the clothes because she wears nicer things um again is that newsworthy i don't understand what in this article is actually newsworthy yeah and i'm not glazing over the fact that like there are remaining like two or three people who haven't been paid for certain things and like that needs to be taken care of and I'm sure that the company this isn't like the and the article actually does give good background on who invested in this company what I thought was really interesting is the 10 million dollar investment came from this guy who owned a brand that did a partnership with Ariel and they never saw such conversion in their

life and they wanted to get in on it it happened in a really natural way and I thought that was really interesting okay so it didn't pan out how everyone hoped it would be in the company's floundering and they have outstanding bills and they probably should shut down their operations and just pay the remaining employees totally where they should shut down their operations why like Ariel's checked out the company's really not successful checked out I think that's what insider thinks about her they don't know her yeah she has three kids like she I think that she tries To streamline her work process Like I'm sure something Maybe honestly

Is the most important thing To her And like to have someone Accuse her of not caring About her own brand While like You're supposed to say Like this employee

Who left and now Is talking shit Cares more about Ariel's brand Than she does Like it's literally Her name And it's being

Dragged through the mind I think she loves her brand All the clothes On the website Like whether you Like them or not They're her style They are a derivative Of her style Yeah it's not the Hermes version but it's a something

no that's so true I feel like I remember she once made a headband that was like she used to wear the Prada one and hey she made one that's more affordable and that works I don't think they need to shut down their business what I thought about the business model was so interesting is like they have opened so many retail stores and like my thing is like why right like who's shopping retail and the answer is nobody but they use this like platform called Leap That like opens up They cover all the costs They absorb all of the costs of opening up retail shops

So it's like actually not that much of a risk For her to be doing that And then the article says you know In one day they sell five items And I just feel like that's more of a reflection On retail And an indictment on retail Than on something Navy

Because their online sales are strong when economy is good and the clothes are cute like everything else is subject to fluctuations i also thought like the the the way the employees um at the company like demanded to know every financial decision it's like you're not the ceo of this company you have a job i don't think at a standard job you would go and talk to ceo well what are our numbers like so this was like there was not much transparency about a plan moving forward or why we're in the position that we're in what the fuck does a graphic designer or a marketing person have anything to do with the financials you don't work in finance no or why we're in the position that we're in like not doing well there's a

recession everyone right no so that's also like I think something that was I think every if you work in any industry but specifically fashion which is an indulgence I think you'd be lying if you're saying you're not feeling the hit of the economy and inflation and people are just not spending money on luxury items like clothing right now that aren't a necessity and I think the article really failed to mention like that's a huge contributing factor as to why Ariel's company and also a lot of companies are struggling right now. So I just felt like that was kind of the elephant in the room of part of the reason why. Because Ariel, say what you want about her, she's fucking influential.

And that's why she got to the place that she is. This is not, there are influencers out there who like launch companies and get people to invest who are actual frauds. Who have followers that are bots, who have absolutely no influence. Ariel is legit. Like her. And that's. That's what I thought was so interesting.

That the. The person who invested the 10 million dollars. And started this whole thing. Was so blown away by her influence. She has influence. She has clout. So this isn't like. You know.

Smoke and mirrors. Yeah. They're just struggling. For a variety of reasons. But the economy being one of them. Right. Also it was funny. In the article.

They're like. You know. Her. Her. Analytics are down. From 2021 to 2022 And it's just not As high as it once was

It's like Well thanks to this week That's no longer a problem Right I would love to hear From her like You know what Exponentially

What her stories They must be triple Jackie I mean I followed her forever And honestly I was thinking I couldn't remember The last time she came up

In my timeline Her stories now Are the first in my For everyone For everyone For everyone This everyone For everyone This is also what I thought Was really interesting

And you know Harkens back to my favorite Part of this story The COVID stuff So they talked about her Being a COVID-iot Whatever After the scandal

Charnas took a three week Hiatus from social media When she returned She was never quite the same Former employees said The former high ranking Something Navy team member Said Charnas became

Very insecure And hesitant to Post afraid that her followers would Attack her like that's so sad mm-hmm she Didn't do anything wrong I will Literally die on that hill yeah she got Covid she got sick and she didn't know What to do with it because it was March

14th so she went to the Hamptons right How nice for her I wish that could have Been me mm-hmm also let me see what else I highlighted article and they talk About it like Ariel's rise to fame fame And influence and like what people like About following her They said Ruby

That she liked to show Her daughter Ruby They say Ruby Who is now six Hold on I need to find The whole sentence One second

She was one of the First fashion bloggers To share her life As a mother Discussing postpartum anxiety And showing her Firstborn daughter Ruby Who is now six

Playing in the bathtub Now that was definitely Like a really fucking weird Thing to say Weird thing to say She shows Ruby Doing other stuff too Ruby goes to school weird Thing to say Weird thing to say She shows Ruby Doing other stuff too Ruby goes to school

Ruby goes to camp Ruby loves to make bracelets Ruby's outfits Yeah Ruby's stunning Ruby eats Ruby sleeps Ruby plays with her dog Of all like the

Moments they wanted to take And like No it was fucking weird No I agree Also This Now for me Like I'm just trying

To gather my thoughts But my main My main thought here is like, there's 75% of this article is not newsworthy. Here's another non-newsworthy item. High ranking employees complaining, customers complaining, sorry, you know, customer service tickets flooding with complaints about the restocking fee for returns, which is $12.75 and inconsistent sizing.

Okay. Thanks. Why the fuck did you know this literally the tiktok sound why the fuck did you have to bring that up no it's like restocking fee is definitely annoying i hate when companies do it but it happens uh literally i would rather there be a restocking fee than a no return policy or just store credit that's more doing let's get an article about that no but i feel like Sometimes like you there's Some stores that don't Have returns at all no and Then something maybe

Responded to that saying We're a tiny team and it Costs us money and time to Restock returns and our Policy transparently Reflects this yeah so by The way that's like a Really annoying thing that

Happens in fashion all the Time it's not Ariel Charnas's fault no and Like the way that we've Been conditioned as online Shoppers is you treat Online shopping like it's A fitting room

And you order a ton of stuff I do it with Revolve All the time And I think Revolve Actually like makes it Wants people to do it Like because And that's a part

Of their success Yes You order a ton of stuff Sometimes they order A few sizes too Yeah And then you return The things that don't

Suit you And it has to be Profitable for the company So if you do it too much They will restrict Your ability to shop With them or return With them

But Ariel saying Like in something Sorry not even Ariel Because this is something Maybe in their Two separate brands Is saying like too much they will restrict your ability to shop with them or return with them um but ariel saying like in something sorry not even ariel because this is something maybe in their two separate brands is saying like we can't afford to do that right they're small companies so like one of the things that you think will work and if they don't like you have you can return them but it's going to cost so not only is there so much shit in this article and again like you don't have to shop there right right there's no gun to your head so not only is there so much shit in this article that's like genuinely not newsworthy, there's so much stuff that like they're making out.

You don't think it's newsworthy that she pronounced L-M-S wrong? No, no, no. Now I'm on that page too. That's probably my favorite nugget. Okay, this page is everything. So there's a bunch of shit in there that's not newsworthy, but there's also a bunch of shit in there

that they're making out to be like such a big deal, but that's standard practice in fashion industries, like the restocking fee, like Charnas would frequently flip-flop approving certain styles one day and then deciding she didn't like them after the samples arrived literally we do we don't even have a fashion company we have merch we will spend six months designing it we said it comes it's so fugly we're like you know just forget it that is so common like the fact like you want to change it no she should say okay it's ugly but let's leave it because the sample's here And I don't want people

To say I flip flopped To Business Insider No it's so fucking stupid Okay Then Was the SponCon stuff The SponCon stuff

So I thought this was So fucking funny I have it here If you want it Okay so interesting So she had two A bunch of Instagram partnerships But two that were

Mentioned here Were with the company Vivrel And the skincare brand Elemis Which are both Very new companies With let's be honest

Fucking weird ass names You could say Vivrel I think that's what I used to think If you were Latin You would say Vivrelie

Vivrelie Double L Yeah double L You could say Elemis And by the way I would not know How to say Elemis

If it weren't for people Like using it on TikTok And being like This is Instagram Right So she had two brand deals That she wanted to post And by the way I would not know How to say Elemis If it weren't for people Like using it on TikTok And being like If it wasn't for Ariel Charnas' Instagram Right So she had two brand deals That she wanted to post And she was a little reluctant

And like people had to Kind of hound her down To record the Vivero one Because Well here's why Hold on hold on Charnas hated posting For certain brands

Right So they At first in the article They made it seem like She hated posting for Vivero Because she was like Embarrassed to be You know with a company

That's not like You not buying purses. You're renting purses. They said she didn't want her followers to think she rented handbags. But she eventually agreed to do the post as long as she was photographed only with specific pieces from designers like Chanel and Bottega Veneta, said the former staffer who discussed the value. So she writes that first, which makes it seem like Ariel thinks she's too good to rent bags. And saying it was a brand that was beneath her.

But then they added a little thing in parentheses. That's actually definitely the real reason. Another employee believed the partnership, she was worried about the partnership because her followers wouldn't believe that she rented bags. It would seem very fake. Duh. It would seem very fake unless it was Chanel and Bottega Veneta. And then it's like, oh, okay, maybe she would rent those bags because that's what she wears.

So it's like the article really tried to make her look bad and then really put the real reason for it in parentheses which is like duh no one would believe that ariel charnas is renting a bag right so i just felt like that's really that's what you need to know about the article it's like they're really reaching for something because the reason is actually really fair i can see and i don't think it's that ariel charnas doesn't want to work she's built an amazing business right it's not like you know what that would be like me doing you know a sponsorship with soul cycle Like I'll do it But like no one's Going to believe it

Right Come on So maybe you'll find A way to work with SoulCycle On a way that people Would believe it And for her That's just doing

Chanel and Bottega And for me That's eating a donut On the bike Yeah or being like You guys should try SoulCycle Or like me literally Having to go to the hospital

After a SoulCycle class Yes So okay whatever Also then They said she mispronounced The names of brands Including Vivrel And the skincare brand

Elemis in videos According to two former staffers And Elemis asked That Charnas reshoot the video If I had a dollar For every time I sent a brand Branded content

And they're like You called it the wrong thing Or this is actually You know the two piece set Not the one piece set Oh this is This isn't a pullover It's a half sip

Yeah yeah yeah Literally that just happened to me Oh I got once I had to reshoot the whole thing Because I wasn't wearing shoes And it was like It was outfits And they wanted me To like make outfits which I did but I didn't put shoes on I didn't leave my house and they said they wanted shoes so again this is another example

of like very standard practice ask any influencer if they've ever had to reshoot for a brand because they mentioned something incorrectly or they didn't use the right code happens literally all the time so much so that now a lot of influencers will agree to a brand deal with a max of two reshoots because like it's doing the same thing over and over and it Now a lot of influencers Will agree to a brand deal With a max of two reshoots Because like It's doing the same thing Over and over And it's a waste

Of people's time So okay So she pronounced two By the way two Out of how many brands Did she work with Literally a hundred Also like who

Mispronouncing stuff Is so relatable Have you met me Goma Crow Also you can use A brand that you've used You can like have a brand That you've used for so long

And like mispronounce it Up until you do the ad Just like you and Goma Crow Right You'd have them in the officeonounce it up Until you do the ad just Like you and go macro Right have them in the Office for literally two Years and then we started Doing ads for them and Claudia's like it's go

Macro is like oh no it's Go macro no I literally In my daily life was Calling it go macro and Then once I did the ad I Learned that I was wrong It's like the magic John so again this is

Another instance of like Very standard practice in The influencer industry People get asked to Reshoot things all the Time but now it's like a Crime when Ariel Charnas Does it right also the

Employees were upset Because she has a lot of Ariel Charnas does it Right also the employees were upset because She has a lot of sponsored content And also they gave the numbers that if she's doing an In-feed post it's around 20k if she's doing a set Of stories it's 8 to 10k and She asked that in order to most efficiently Utilize staff time and resources she would shoot Multiple sets of content within a single session so

Basically blocking off a day and be like we're Filming everything for this month on this Day which I guess Employees weren't happy with Because they have to run around And get all the product And the copy No because it seems like

They have to work hard Which they didn't want to do But the article is dragging Arielle Because in a Q&A She said she'll usually Work on something maybe From 10 a.m. to 2 p.m. Yeah

So it's like Arielle can't So you have to You're complaining That you have extra Responsibilities at your job But Do you know what I'm saying yeah it's like this whole work hard not work hard thing right you're criticizing her for working hard for asking

you for not working hard enough because she asked you to work harder right anyways they said then it says right after that charnas is apparent aversion to brand partnerships apparent aversion to brand partnerships she builds her whole brand she wants to film them all in one day that's an aversion that's just called being time management bewildered her staffers who didn't understand why she was kneecapping her own business i can't yeah she wants to film them all in one day by the way i do the exact same thing if i have multiple things to shoot i'm waiting till the day where i look pretty and wear makeup and i'm going to film everything that i need to film for that week right also lest we not forget she has three kids i know what time do they get home from school no totally she wants to be done for the day and

be a mom she's it's not like she works from 10 to 2 and then she goes to sleep no and it's like everybody's always like women can have it all you can work and be a mother and it's like well give us time to be mothers no and it said that we're dragging someone for making it work for them trying to micromanage her schedule and by the way ariel chernis is a fucking business owner this is literally like she runs her own instagram account all your employees you have literally no right to comment on how she chooses to run her life. This is her life.

Yeah. Also, this next one, they talk about the CEO and they don't like how he's like, you know, shielding everyone from the fact that the business isn't doing well. They said he seemed reluctant to respond to waning sales with measures like pulling back on inventory or furloughing employees, three former staffers said.

Instead, he relied solely on flash sales and ever larger discounts how nice that's so nice he didn't want to fire people so instead he got to work he marked down prices no wait okay that's another thing in the article so wait okay ready the employee added at one point in 2021 even as sales were meager something navy spent forty thousand dollars a week yeah on paid social media on facebook and instagram which ended up generating minuscule returns and sometimes even losses okay so they're trying so what this article is saying is they're trying they're seeing a problem sales are meager so a solution that works for a lot of people in any industry is paid social putting money behind instagram ads facebook ads twitter ads things like that so they did that so they're trying oh wow here's the

here's the takeaway they're spending a lot of money on the company right no it's especially after the rumors that brandon is embezzled four million dollars no they're overspending on facebook ads they want to drum up sales because they're trying because the company's not doing well so what should they do the company's not doing well they So what should they do? The company's not doing well. They should not advertise? Wouldn't that be more of an exposure on the power or lack of power of Facebook ads? You're not getting what you're paid for because it says also, something Navy's return on acquisition spending

is consistent with broader market trends and paid spend. Hey, that sounds like an article. So wait, it sounds like, once again, something Navy's doing, something in the fashion industry that everyone does. No, but it sounds like maybe

people are overpaying For paid social media And it doesn't garner The results that they think I'd love to see An article about that So to me We're on

It's 21 pages I'm on page 20 Maybe 20 The most important In my opinion Article No I can't even speak The most important part

Of the article Is buried at the very bottom After we get this Boring ass Bio On who Matt Scanlan is Who the fuck cares Former employee said I can't even speak. The most important part of the article is buried at the very bottom. After we get this boring ass bio on who Matt Scanlan is. Who the fuck cares? Former employee said that the CEO

shielded Charnas from the company's struggles. Matt was adamant that no one would talk to Ariel or her husband Brandon about the performance of the business. If she ever asked about something, you had to say it was amazing, that everyone loved it, the brand was great,

and sales were great. So here, 20 pages in, we finally learn that Ariel had no idea that the company was struggling so badly. Again, she's a minority owner. She doesn't go to the office because, once again, she's a minority owner. And it was her understanding that everything was going amazing. So she's going to, of course, she had no idea vendors weren't being paid.

So she doesn't think twice about posting her fancy sponsored party because everything's going great, according to her. Why was that not the overarching, like to begin the article, the first page of the article is, Vendor is owed 300 grand. Ariel's throwing lavish parties. Don't you think this paragraph would have been really important on page one, not buried on page 20?

Right. Right. After Matt Scanlan went to NYU. Who cares? Yeah. Yeah. Also, a lot of it is like the former staffers who are contributing to the article. I think, you know, in the last two years, she lost 22 employees. She has currently 28. Who knows what

like how many employees she aims to have it at a certain time. But it's just like even one of the employees that they cited who was like a really high up at something, maybe who's no longer there. I actually follow her on Instagram because she's become like A little bit of an influencer She's a mom She has three kids And it's like I saw how in the last two years She has three kids

Maybe that's why she left Right no it's not Not everybody who leaves a job Is like disgruntled And the business is tanking No it's so true And just to add one more How is this newsworthy

Poll quote The tone on Charnas' Personal Instagram Has likewise shifted Relatable and smiling posts Has given way to muted Claudia I literally Highlighted this section And I relatable and smiling Post has given way to I literally highlighted the section with and I wrote Deranged no has given way to muted underexposed shots of the influencer

Hiding her face behind sunglasses even the way she dresses now it's just Different feels older and more in the luxury space like her former employee And more in the luxury space but she added that's not what people were Following her for okay so influencer changes the filter that she uses business Insider writes an article I Really I don't understand No actually it feels older And more in the luxury space

Than when people started Following her because she's Gotten older and richer and Richer anyway I'm fucking Article all of this to say I Think that I'm sure Ariel Had a hard week with like all Of the ups and downs of her

Family of her family and everything but knowing that everything that was going around her wasn't true I'm sure she was just like so fucking confused but at the end of the day I think she should thank Dumois because this probably wasn't her PR strategy but it's an amazing one no she's back on top you think an article's coming out about you so you put out rumors that are so much fucking crazier than what they're about to say that by the time the article comes out it's a nothing Yeah I don't know what my my sentiment on the article would have been if there wasn't this Like week-long after like nobody nobody this article drops I'd be like oh my god crazy shit Over there no this is and I'm sure it's actually been a really hard week for Ariel and like this

Is not the outcome she expected but in a very twisted way it's the outcome that is the best Possible outcome Right And also I think she's more famous Than ever It also showed How much people Are obsessed with her Love her or hate her

Like they can't Stop fucking talking about her No they're obsessed With looking for a reason For now three years People have been looking For a reason To like really cancel

Ariel Charnas Because again Like I said yesterday She's skinny She's rich She's pretty Her life seems very effortless And everything comes to her And her life seems very effortless and everything

and her life is full her life is full people have been people are so jealous people have been looking for a reason i'm sorry and you know what i will literally i will do a televised debate with someone if they can give me a good reason as to what she did wrong when she had covid she didn't know she didn't fucking know and she was just going about her regular life being a business owner and a mom and a rich one at that so she has a house in the Hamptons and and she got to go there and some of us were suffering in our apartments and that sucks that's America yeah that's where we live in so again you have a problem with like capitalism and corporate greed and you're taking it out on Ariel Charnas and I'm not here for it I'm not here for it no not at all so I'm glad that we can close out the week um

and put this whole thing To bed I think that a Lot of the issues that They illustrated about Sales will be totally Swept away by this Week's fanfare I think Everybody's at Something maybe dot com

Checking out what They're because they Say oh the clothes are Ugly they're not selling Makes me want to go to Something maybe dot com And see what they're Selling and I'm sure

I'll find something I Want to buy Of course no it's This is PR it's like It's really what they say Like there's no such thing As bad press Because I'm sure

Like this has taken a toll On her emotionally Because people talking About your family Your husband Your kids Doing deep dives Like on her mom's Instagram

It's It's not something That anyone really Should ever go through And so while it's been taxing And I'm sure there are A lot of benefits That come out of it

It's still It's still not a pleasant Situation to go through It's your family I just want to say I'm on somethingnavy.com Like so Such gorgeous things

And all things That I could see Ariel wearing They're in line With her personal style Her style is very simple And like elegant It's not like crazy trendy

It's very classic Yeah no It's not The thing is It's not my personal style I'm sure I could find Something on that Actually that green jacket's cute

But again Not every company Is for everyone yeah just and again when you're reading this article like please keep in mind that Arielle owns so little of this company she is the face of it it's the same way I was like okay ready remember when Fabletics was like Kate Hudson's company yeah it's the same exact thing that was a perfect example of like building a brand off the back of a of a famous person. And now I don't even think, I'm sure she still owns like a couple points on the company. But oh, my Fabuletics didn't ship. Kate Hudson, call me.

Yeah. You know? There's a restocking fee. Right. Kate Hudson, don't have a birthday party. Right. No, exactly. Like we really just need to get a perspective on her involvement in this company.

And the article really failed to do that. Yeah. And the article failed on a lot of points. I think all of us as a society like need to look at how we behaved this week i completely agree and i think the internet we all we all owe ariel charnas an apology like two because of covid two i've been saying that for years don't get me started um we this like we need to use that tiktok sound i'm gonna be real with you guys you look like fucking clowns yeah you really do and every single person who like made some shit up on instagram i saw britney charnas at polo bar getting arrested shame on you you're disgusting the person who

released that fake statement shame on you everyone who acted like a fucking clown this week Shame on you Yep I you know Yeah Also All week people were like She's posting Like nothing's happened Nothing is happening Because nothing happened What else would she have done Literally

I wonder if When she saw the rumors Like that were so unfounded Like just The one Brandon Charnas Embezzled 45 million dollars If she was like

Laughing Crying Honestly I feel like she's Like has her head on straight. I feel like it actually would have been a relief because you know, with these articles, they torture you. Like they, you know that the hit piece is being written about you

and like you get an email about it and they want to fact check and they torture you and they reach out to every single person in your life, former college friends, roommates, and those people who are still in your life, they'll be like, I got this text. It's happened to me, like my friends from high school. It makes you sick for weeks and months on end

knowing that this article's coming out about you, especially from Business Insider, which really has no journalistic integrity. No, and they've been like doing this thing recently where they like pick their mark and then they dig through their life for, you know, two to six months and they find like all of the bad things

and write that article. Even if all of the bad things- And then the night before, they'll send you all the bad things. all of the bad things and write that article. Even if all of the bad things- And then the night before, they'll send you all the bad things. Even if all of the bad things are 1% of your life and like the 99%, like you are doing so much good. Reminds me, Dave Portnoy article,

like there was those allegations from those girls. Like, did they mention how many small businesses he saved? Like they should mention both, no? Yeah. No, I think the Dave Portnoy thing like was interesting because while I do think Dave Portnoy thing like was interesting because while I do think Dave Portnoy is not great like likes younger girls I think there's there's definitely questionable things in his personal life I also think his like retaliation against them really highlighted how

Business Insider has really questionable um like ethics when it comes to journalistic integrity like they just they have there there is a bar you have to reach when you're writing for a publication and and business insider like has a reputation for for not reaching that bar ever yeah but I do think like that's not to say like there were things in that article like not that everything was a lie like I do think Dave Portnoy is like kind of gross but like he showed they had like stories from like two or three girls that like had bad experiences with him and like he showed the text messages that told a completely different story like yeah they told only a piece of the story and i know yeah dave portnoy likes young girls yeah no for sure but where's the story on scottistic right no

totally totally i i completely agree so i just think um business insider like has a reputation for that yeah but so when when you know that this is being written about you like it really it takes over your life you can't not think about anything else um and then this week when all these rumors started to come out I think honestly maybe it provided a little levity yeah for her I I think I don't know I would love her to come on the podcast like you're always welcome here girly yeah or like someone next time someone's going through this even though they won't be able to see the forest through the trees like start vlogging documentary drop the vlog documentary yeah that's a documentary a

celebrity documentary we need to say yeah just like the week of my camp my week with cancellation literally anyways now it's over it's over and so everyone take a look inside yourselves look inward take inventory where were you where were you what did you say what did you do yeah our next story some allegations worth discussing nick carter has been alleged and accused of raping an underage autistic fan. So that's been accused of Nick Carter of raping an underage autistic fan in 2001. And he has responded to this allegation denying it. But he said this claim is about an incident that supposedly took place more than 20 years ago. And is not only legally meritless but also entirely untrue.

Unfortunately for several years now the plaintiff has been manipulated into making false allegations about Nick. More than 20 years ago. And is not only legally. Meritless. But also entirely. Untrue. Unfortunately. For several years now. The plaintiff. Has been manipulated. Into making false allegations. About Nick. And those allegations. Have changed repeatedly.

And materially. Over time. No one should be. Fooled by a press stunt. Orchestrated by an opportunistic. Lawyer. There is nothing. To this claim whatsoever.

Which we have no doubt. The courts will quickly. Realize. The. No. Because I believe it. The girl. Held a press conference on thursday in which she

slammed nick carter for allegedly sexually assaulting her when she was just 17 years old she said quote even though i'm autistic and live with cerebral palsy i believe that nothing has affected me more or had a more lasting impact on my life than when nick carter did and said to me after he raped me i remember he him calling me the r-worded bitch and grabbing me and leaving bruises on my arm she also filed a lawsuit on thursday alongside three anonymous women identified only as jane does who also claimed carter sexually assaulted them wow that was like the most upsetting thing i've ever heard in my life i'm like really upset i know they're gonna cry and honestly so i saw this story and it reminded me of a lot of the things that aaron carter alleged about his brother before he passed

away um and weirdly i only remembered because i saw in my time hop a few days like weeks ago i had a screenshot of it and the headline was that aaron carter accused his brother nick carter of raping a 90 year old 91 year old woman and was asking the FBI to investigate and then when I was searching that this morning there's a tweet from Aaron Carter in September 2019 that said my sister raped me from the age of 10 to 13 years old when she wasn't on her medications and I was abused not only sexually by her but by my first two backup dancers when I was eight years old and my brother abused me my whole life and I just want to say I feel like we Aaron Carter was like silenced and wronged and of course he went through so much and I I don't towards and I don't know like where he was at and what he was

saying but so this isn't the first time someone saying someone saying so something so fucking crazy about Nick Carter like raping an underage autistic fan and raping a 91 year old woman and Aaron said that his brother admitted to the act and told him that quote he covered her mouth so no one could hear her scream oh my god um what the fuck yeah and seriously what the fuck and and aaron carter had said the woman's name at the time i guess like their mother worked in hospice like he was giving details He said hey at FBI My brother raped Mildred And told me in confidence in his pickup truck She was 91 years old

And my brother told me he covered her mouth So no one could hear her scream Put me on a polygraph machine Please FBI My mother knows she was taking care of two elderly women Who were on hospice Mildred and Opal Who my mother was keeping alive

At FBI What are you going to do about that? Nothing I'm reporting a rape from nick on sn on an elderly woman who was dying and was 91 that he raped strapped nick up to a polygraph machine and a really good one please holy shit like the way i woke up when you told me this yesterday last night so the way i woke up yesterday morning like i literally couldn't have cared less about nick carter i'm not even back like i don't even like the backstreet boys the way I will make it my mission in life to end end Nick Carter like I will not kill I'm not that's

not a threat I mean like there are multiple ways to end I will not stop talking about this now I'm so upset like right this and to get away with it for so long and like now like I look back and like even I feel guilty like we all just kind of discredit Aaron Carter because like he was like acting crazy and looking crazy and had like crazy tattoos. Like, but this was a person like deeply in pain who like survived years of trauma and who was like speaking the truth and breaking the cycle.

I'm so upset. I don't even know what corner of the story is the more upsetting. Two people could, you know, come forward with their truth and allegations and one person's brave and the other person's crazy. Right. And why?

No totally I'm so upset So upset And then it also reminded me Of when Nick Carter Was dating Paris Hilton And she showed up With a bunch of bruises On herself

And it was said At the time That she had done That photo shoot Where she was Tied up With the It was like

Barbed wire It was like cords Like cables Cables yeah And I think The I don't know If Nick said it Or Paris said it

But like That it was bruises From that But like There's a lot of smoke With Nick Carter And it's not Your normal kind of smoke

No and you know Now that we're talking About it I was being nice A couple weeks ago I think it's fucking weird He didn't cancel the concert The day after his brother died

Sorry I'm saying it It was fucking weird Right Weird I was just like Maybe he's grieving because i was trying to be nice no you're there's something fucked wrong with you i don't like it and you know what all these redditors who thought you knew something about ariel charnas why don't you put your energy towards a worthy cause towards a monster yeah towards a real fucking monster totally i need the internet to ascend upon nick carter these two accusations have nothing to do

with each other no except for the person they're accusing and they're some of the most heinous crimes I've ever heard because it's taking advantage of a vulnerable person too vulnerable so I could actually like it is a pattern because even though one's 91 and 117 and one's your little brother so right right they're all like the same type of victim because they're all people you have power over and they're all people Who come from like A vulnerable place Yeah And they're like weak Technically

So I'm saying I believe every Fucking word of this I I fucking I fucking hate this guy And the girl Shannon Ruth

Called Shay Is filing with three Other women Right So now there's three more Four or five Technically Aaron

Mildred Yeah The other three And Shay Yeah No this is really fucking twisted And really upsetting

Yeah Do you want more details or no? Like not really Like the details of the tour bus The drink Okay Like according to a copy of the complaint Obtained by page six

The pop star allegedly lured Ruth Into his tour bus After Who's Ruth? Shay That's her last name Oh whoa whoa Shay Ruth

I thought Ruth was Okay yeah She's a firsty lasty Firsty lasty The pop star allegedly Lured her into his tour bus After a concert In Tacoma, Washington

And offered her A red colored drink Which she now believes Was a mix of alcohol And cranberry juice Again she was 17 He then allegedly Took the young fan

Who was a virgin at the time To a bed on the tour bus where he allegedly continued to sexually assault her. Ruth also claimed in the press conference that she contracted HPV, which is a sexually transmitted infection following her encounter with Carter. She said,

just because Nick Carter is a celebrity does not mean that he is excused from his crimes. I'm a survivor and always will be. I just don't know why people aren't talking more about this no like for real let's talk about it this is this is like a crazy disgusting story yeah and honestly i want to hear from the other bsb members because if someone's that much of a monster like you know even if you don't know like details like you have a feeling about someone like it shouldn't be that surprising they've been working with him for like 20 years no yeah and honestly I feel like the

Most honest member of that group is AJ McLean like I don't know why I'm always Watching interviews of him he's like We've interviewed him he's obsessed with His daughter he's sober like I feel Actually maybe I think like a lot of his Like dark times when it came to Alcoholism like was like at the height

Of Backstreet Boys so maybe he wasn't Like aware enough hmm so maybe he's not The best person to ask I don't know also They were supposed to do the Backstreet Boys were supposed to do like some holiday special on ABC and it's been canceled in light of these claims no I think that's for the best yeah fuck you Nick Carter like wow I literally despise despise and he was like my I know my number one I know growing up but like i know what did i know what nothing nothing okay let's get into the next story which is some positive news is it brought to you um by haya yes typical children's vitamins are basically candy in disguise they're filled with two teaspoons

of sugar unhealthy chemicals and other gummy junk that growing kids should never eat but that's why haya was created the pediatrician approvedapproved super-powered chewable vitamin. While most children's vitamins are filled with sugar and they can contribute to a variety of health issues, Haya is made with zero sugar and zero gummy junk, but it tastes great and is perfect for picky eaters. They fill the most common gaps in modern child's diets to provide the full-body nourishment that our kids need

with a yummy taste that they love. They're formulated with the help of nutritional experts. Haya is pressed with a blend of 12 organic fruits and vegetables, then supercharged with 15 essential vitamins and minerals, including vitamin D, B12, C, zinc, folate, and many others to help support immunity, energy, brain function, mood, concentration, teeth, bones, and more. It is, of course, non-GMO, vegan, dairy-free, allergy-free, gluten-free, nut-free, and everything else free that you can imagine.

It's designed for kids of all ages and is sent straight to your door so parents have one less thing to worry about. It's also really fun packaging. It, like, is this really cute bottle that comes with, like, all these stickers and, like, the kids can decorate it. So, you know, you'll get a good 20 minutes of, like, silence while they play with the packaging. Right, and then every time you bring out the bottle, it's, like, fun reminder of artwork. We've worked out a special deal with Haya for their best-selling children's vitamin.

Receive 50% off your first order. To claim this deal, you must go to hayahealth.com slash toast. This deal is not available on the regular website. Go to H-I-Y-A-H-E-A-L-T-H dot com slash toast

to get your kids the full body nourishment they need to grow into healthy adults. Again, that's hayahealth.com slash toast. Today's episode is also brought to you by Perfect Bar. Don't go nuts this holiday season. Fuel yourself with the Perfect Bar, the original refrigerated protein bar that has a cookie

dough-like texture. It is creamy and full of flavor, and it's unlike any other bars out there. Now they come in snack size, which is packed up to six grams of proteins and 150 calories. A little goes a long way. They're made with the only whole food ingredient and contain no artificial preservatives perfect bar is stored in the fridge so grab one after a workout for a quick bite while you're out or while you're holiday shopping and you'll feel good about what you're snacking on if you aren't convinced already they also sell non-gmo project verified gluten-free soy-free kosher low gi everything kosher ally um and they're kept in the fridge which is something i feel like we need to talk about more Because the fact that like

We've like been eating All these like delicious bars These years that like Aren't in the fridge Like ew Yeah but it also How fresh can they be? Right

It just shows you how The perfect ones are so fresh Right Fresh to death I love that dark chocolate One with the sea salt That's surprising No I know

But you want to know why? Because I don't really like dark chocolate Unless it's cold from the fridge Isn't it weird? And with a little salt. Yes. The sea salt adds a nice touch. I like the cookie dough one.

Yum, yum. They're really good. And they know it'll be love at first bite. So for a limited time, they're offering you a chance to try their refrigerated protein bars for free. Here's how it works. Wow. Sign up for email or texts and then upload a picture of your receipt from your local

grocery store and they'll reimburse you for the cost of one bar directly into your Venmo or PayPal account. All you have to do is go to perfect snacks.com slash toast to get a free perfect bar today that's perfect snacks.com slash toast to get a free perfect bar today happy snacking also their snack size ones are really perfection those are my favorite ones they're the perfect size like because sometimes i'm just trying to tie it over to my meat right meal not trying to replace my meal right but sometimes i am trying to replace my meal and that's when I go for the big ones. They have it all.

When I'm on tour. Just like being a mogul. Perfect bars. Perfect. They've thought of it all. They've thought of it all. Are you going to miss tour? Um.

Yeah. Well actually we never even got to like. Recap how. I've been looking forward to like this special of course. Because I'm like. I was nervous about it. And I wanted to get it over with. But also like.

I have been looking forward to the end of the tour. It's like a lot of time away from my house and my family and um it's amazing and but there's like some drawbacks like it's just it's a lot of hard work and I've been looking forward to it being over and when I tell you I was not perfect I was not prepared for the profound sadness I would feel when it was over like I actually on Tuesday night like when we got home from dinner I had had two cocktails like I did cry like I was like it wasn't crying over like pride and accomplishment no it was like pride over miss the road no not miss the road I like when I tell you like the material that I wrote like is it's first of all it's my it's my life like I don't make stuff up

like it's literally these things that have happened to me and I've worked so hard over the last year like if you saw the first show and then you saw the last show it was it's so different like I've worked so hard on my craft and these stories to like bring them to life and like make people laugh and like it really like the material it will live forever in the special but like it's retired now and I just feel um I feel very connected to the material because it's things that happen to me I miss the material I'm gonna miss like you know this part of my life like it's it will be memorialized in the special so I'm glad that people will get to see it but I don't know it's just like it's the end of a chapter it's the end of a chapter and it's the end of literally thinking about something non-stop for one whole year and now i haven't thought about

it and it's like you know it's there to think about right you that's so sweet thank you i've been waiting for you to turn your attention you're welcome towards me finally that's sweet yeah claudia that's beautiful. Thanks. We're excited for the special. When will it be out? I have no fucking idea. Cool, cool, cool. Cool. Next up, another person making their big

feature debut. Taylor Swift is making her feature directing debut for Searchlight Pictures. Taylor Swift will be making her feature directorial debut with Searchlight Pictures. The singer, songwriter her feature directorial debut with Searchlight Pictures. The singer, songwriter, and director has written an original script,

which will be produced by the Oscar-winning studio behind No Man Land and The Shape of Water. And Juno. Oh. Other key details, like a plot and casting,

are being kept under wraps until a later date, but landing the project from one of the world's most successful musicians is a cue. Cue. No, this is so interesting.

Like, I feel like there comes a time in every, like, major, major pop star's life where, like, they do something different. Like, with Lady Gaga, like, she's obviously really taken the acting world by storm. Like, she's two Oscar seasons in a row back to back in, like, Oscar movies. And so. Oh, yeah, yeah. So I feel like Taylor doing it from, like, the director POV is so cool. I know she's been, like, writing and directing her own music videos for a long time. And obviously this is a big leap.

But Taylor doesn't do anything half ass. It's going to be good. Yeah, it will be. I'm so curious like what the film is about. I know. It's probably some type of romance, but not like in a corny way. No, yeah. Like a dark romance.

Like I feel like all too well short film. I would love that Like a long All too well the movie That would actually be really good Or what if it's like A book that she loves Turned into a movie

Because I feel like That's what happened With Crawdads Like maybe that was her Putting her foot in the water Of like writing a song For a movie For a book that she loved

So they said she wrote A script for it So does that Like that means she I guess could have written A script off a book Like she bought the rights To a book

Yes because even when You acquire the rights to a book like someone has to write a script right I do feel like Taylor definitely reads a lot like because sometimes and I know I sound crazy but sometimes I'll listen to a song and I like I know she wrote it about a certain book it says an original script which I feel like could still be a book no okay because it is an original script but like it's a weird way to phrase it if you're writing a script off of a book. Yeah. Either way, I'm here for it.

Yeah, me too. I'm really excited. I just hate finding out things so early. But it sounds like plot and casting are under wraps, not unknown. Oh, that's true. It might not be that early. Plus, if it has a studio and... There's progress being made.

Yeah. But it definitely feels a little bit like Wicked. It's not like Taylor Swift had the idea today and we're hearing about it right Taylor Swift wrote a script hopefully somebody buys it oh and the script is done right yeah that's true okay but I do think it'll still be like at least a year do you think she'll cast her friends and if so which ones like Blake Lively well so that's the interesting thing is like we have so many options or will she use it as an opportunity to make friends I don't think she's In that phase of her life Anymore

Like I think she has Like celebrity friends That like are The ones Go to I feel like that Haim girl's gonna be it Who was in that movie

Licorice Pizza And would that Change things for you Or not I'm just not like A Haim girl Haim I know I always

Say it wrong Haim Haim They say it's like La Haim Haim But you lose the L Haim

Haim Yeah no like But it does always surprise me Like who Taylor Swift's Celebrity friends are Because like we just found out From Bejeweled Like Laura Dern

You know I would love to see Laura Dern Chaim I would love to see Laura Chaim In a film Yeah I feel like everyone

So there's probably If I sat down A list of a hundred actors Who are Taylor Swift affiliated Who could be in it Joe Alwyn Joe I mean they never do anything

Even remotely publicly Facing together No that would be Honestly toxic It could be Well it would be A little unprofessional Nepotism

And then also She's gonna watch him smooching This is not good And she's gonna be his boss No no Right no that could Really end up being A toxic work environment

And there would be Like a Business Insider article. I'd rather them just see them walk a red carpet, you know? They won't do that because it's like too scary. But they'll work together. No, the fact that they've literally never walked a red carpet together is so crazy. Could be Sophie Turner. Yeah.

No, there's so many people. Zoe Kravitz. I think this is exciting. Yeah. For a lot of industries combined. Yeah. And of course the Swifties. Of course.

But I think it's going to be like not what the Swifties would expect. No, this is a huge pivot. Like I think it's for the critics as well. Yeah, no. Taylor like wants to be critically acclaimed. Like she wants an Oscar. Wow. And this, she could be an EGOT, you know?

She has. Well she has Grammys but like this is her putting her toe in the EOT. I wonder if she'll be nominated. What were the Oscar songs nominations? Did we get the Oscar nominees? No. We didn't. No. Okay because maybe her song for Crawdads will be nominated. Oh right that song is actually very good. It is and that movie is so good if you haven't watched it The holidays are the perfect time It's a great family film Even though there's like One or two sex scenes

But they're not that crazy Yeah Our next story Is a little more content news That's exciting and fun For the whole family Wow Beauty and the Beast

A 30th celebration Will debut on ABC On December 15th Set those DVRs Disney friends This is By the way This is 2022's Annie live like the

way we updated you guys on every single thing happening in Annie live last year I will be doing the same because we got casting news and it's very good so we're mere weeks from the special Beauty and the Beast 30th anniversary television special that you don't want to miss the wonderful world of Disney and ABZ ABZ it's a new rebrand. It's a new network. Will be premiering on Thursday, December 15th from 8 to 10 p.m. on ABC. And then the show will be available to stream on Disney+. Now, the castings are here. And so you need to know who is who.

Now, Belle. The role of Belle will be played by her. Who has an amazing voice. The role of Beast will be played by Josh Groban. I could not have selected. There have been some rumors circulating about this that I just want to sort of squash, which is that like I was consulted about this casting as like a Beauty and the Beast-ophile, as a Groban-phile.

And no, I had nothing to do with this. I actually cannot think of somebody I would have preferred to play this role. Like even Dan Stevens. Likeosh groban is the beast but it's also perfect because he's saying the songs on the most recent soundtrack he's saying evermore uh as the beast yes stevens doesn't sing so they obviously just loved his performance and he loved being involved i'm so like i could cry i'm so joyous yes then joshua henry will be performing the role of gaston i think he's an unknown big shoes to fill i don't know huge shoes to fill and i don't know him then rita moreno will be the narrator cute martin short will be lumiere perfection like

literally if i in my brain if i could have come up with who is literally a walking Lumiere, it's Martin Short. David Alan Greer will be Cogsworth. Cogsworth? Cogsworth. He's a Tony Award winner. So he must. A what?

A Tony Award winner. A Tony Award winner? So he must be Broadway. Can you show me him? Do I know his face? There's not a picture of him there? Oh, forget it. I forgot it.

It's fine. Forget it. Clicky. Clicky. Oh, he does look familiar no i don't know him but cogsworth is is a really really good role like i think hey cogsworth i would really love love that role yes and then um can you get to mrs potts mrs potts will be played by shania twain perfection perfection i honestly This is so stellar December 15th

You can catch us Watching this on ABC We'll be together We will be We'll be together I'll send my DVR We'll be together Even though we're watching

Live with commercials We're watching live with commercials I'm so excited Like I don't know Honestly what's I don't know who we can Watch with Kayla

Kayla I don't know what's A better casting honestly Martin Short or Josh Groban Like they're both Literally perfect Yeah Like I feel like Lumiere was literally Written off of a Martin Short Martin Short or Josh Groban. Like they're both literally perfect. Yeah. Like I feel like Lumiere was literally written

off of a Martin Short character. Literally. And Josh Groban was literally born to be the beast. You guys like, they better not fucking ruin this. Don't fuck it up, please. And I wonder if it's going to be like every, like the whole story or just the songs. Like it's not going to be Beauty and the Beast live

or they would call it that, right? Is that not what it's called? And if they've been working on this, I feel like it's just a 30th celebration. So it's just going to be Beauty and the Beast live or they call it that. Right. Is that not what it's called? And if they've been working on this, I feel like it's just a 30th celebration. So it's just going to be like them singing songs. Oh, I'm sorry. I thought it was Beauty and the Beast live. It's unclear. It's that time of year.

Annie live was literally a year ago. But we started hearing about Annie live so long ago. OK, whatever. I love a 30th anniversary, too, because when NBC put together that wicked 15 year anniversary, it was so fucking good. The two hour special will be a blend of live action and animation and will pay tribute to the legacy of Beauty and the Beast by showcasing the fan-favorite movie,

along with new musical performances designed to take viewers on a magical adventure through the eyes of Belle. Well, Belle is the worst, so... Who's playing Maurice? Yikes. Maurice let's think like a crazy old man yikes damn okay that's not really what I thought it was gonna be never mind yeah it's gonna be like vignettes I can't like that's what I thought it was gonna be but I was hoping I was wrong yeah well I'm sure it'll still be nice like a nice thing to watch with the family add it to the list better than nothing

it's better than nothing better than Grinch live right right I mean the bar is so low speaking of Grinch live are you ready for our next story is it fifth and final fifth and final oh wow fifth and final of the week the glee doc the price of glee has dropped and it investigates the deaths of three stars and the show's, quote, curse. The first trailer for a new shocking docuseries, The Price of Glee, was released on Thursday, giving a first look into the show's several deaths and scandals. The three-part ID docuseries will dig into the behind-the-scenes drama of the hit sitcom and investigate the sudden deaths of three of the show's young actors, Corey Monteith, Mark Saling, and Naya Rivera. Quote, in May 2009, 10 young actors

made their TV debut on Glee. By 2020, all of them would be famous and three would be dead. The trailer explained. That's actually like a good opening. It is,

but it's like a little harsh. I just want to say like a lot of the Glee people who like do podcasts and like have been doing press have been asked about this. They're denouncing it.

No, they're like, nobody who actually was on Glee has been consulted like there's no one no directors no actors nobody from the actual show is a part of it so like how truthful can it be yeah and ID like sounds like it's like a little it's like forensic files vibes like yeah I don't know it's not I don't think I thought it was gonna be on like Discovery Plus or something it's not like the bombshell I think it's gonna be. Right and also it's like okay so there's three Glee cast members who have passed away since the show came out is that you know an indictment on Glee and the culture itself or just Hollywood like what what's the thread between them all? Like not even because

Naya Rivera's death was an accident It was like It was nature Yeah You know what I mean And then Mark Saling was allegedly a suicide And Corey Monteith was an overdose Like they're really not connected They're not connected

It's a coincidence And they have nothing to do with glee really They have to do with like fame Fame yes So Not even Naya Rivera's No Mark Saling and Not even Rivera's No Mark Saling and

Not even Mark Saling Mark Saling was like a freak Who watched Kitty porn Yeah but there's a lot of Uncertain You know people said Like he had defensive wounds

On his fingernails Like that he was a part of Some like ring And he was gonna name names Because he was being arrested On these charges Yeah I mean he was gonna like

Undo Like that's very much Like a conspiracy theory Like about you know Child pedophilia in Hollywood I hope they get empty For the Talkie series

Right So because at the end of the day It's just like a crazy Ass coincidence And that's why people say Like the glee curse But it's not really that Crazy of a coincidence

It's like you get famous And you You fall in In bad circles Like where you know There are drugs And inappropriate Pornography

Like it's It's more a byproduct of the culture than the show. Yeah. So even though it's a catchy title and it's an interesting concept, I don't know that they'll be able to land the plane unless there's details that we don't know. Right, because I don't think there's anything

that was going on on Glee, specifically on set, that resulted in three different deaths for three different reasons at three different times in three different years. I don't think it was a toxic set no i mean like leah michelle was definitely yelling at everyone but like other than that i feel like people had a good time on the whole yeah on the whole like i think i heard that no i think what i heard was like they were really overworked like they were doing 22 episodes they were going on tour they were playing

at the nassau coliseum like i think they were like young people like being worked really hard but other than that like i don't think there was crazy nefarious things going on yeah also they were all even though they're playing high schoolers like they were all adults yeah yeah no it wasn't like child exploitation who were you know engaging in working not being overworking for their like for their parents Yeah And missing school They were getting paid And they were Real whole people Yeah Like not kids Who shouldn't be working

And if they are Not in these circumstances Et cetera et cetera Right So that sounds like A big old nothing burger And you don't have a say Today's theme is like

Very much a nothing burger Like we thought The Beauty and the Beast Thing would be something That's kind of a nothing burger We thought this Glee thing would be Something that's kind of

A nothing burger We thought the Ariel Charnas thing Would be something That's kind of a nothing burger Yeah it's Would be something it's kind of nothing Burger we thought the Ariel Charnas Thing would be something it's kind of a Nothing burger yeah it's nothing burger With whatever sauce except for Nick Carter there's meat there I'm coming for

You Nick Carter like I'm literally Coming for you except if something Happens to him like it wasn't me I'm not A violent person and I meant more Emotionally metaphorically like I'm Coming for your career yeah you'll never Work in this town again updating you guys on these stories yeah that's what we can do that's our part to play and that's our week it was so great to have you in studio next time you

guys see us on Monday we will be back in our remote setup which I love so I'm not upset but it was great to have you here thank you for coming into town for my special I know you had like a million things to do but I know like the special was the cornerstone of why you were here yes it was um and I really appreciate it and you did Dumois like you really killed it this week oh my god thanks you killed it this week we killed it this week I can't think we all killed it this week except for the people on reddit who just like made rumors out of right who just like decided to ruin people's lives because they were bored I would love to see a business insider article about where the rumor came from and who done it 100%

who done it I have%. Who done it? I have really great ideas for articles. If anybody wants to hire me as like a freelance editor in chief. Consultant. I think that'd be great. I think it'd be great too. Speaking of great, it's been a great show.

Thank you so much for listening to The Toast, the Monday morning show where we deliver the fast five stories that you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So if you're watching this on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe and give this video a thumbs up. And we have an exciting announcement coming soon

about the thing that we did yesterday. So that's exciting. We're actually just teasing for teasing's sake. Also, I wasn't here yesterday, so I didn't get a chance to promote the fact that the new episode of The Redheads is out. You guys, this episode is so good. If you read the book, of course, it's amazing. We're getting into everything.

But even if you didn't read the book, I describe every book in detail at the top of the show, so you could follow along. But it's our first episode being all together in so long and like the vibes were just immaculate the girls are so funny i was even telling claudia some of the quotes from the show yesterday and you were laughing we're like redheads got jokes redheads got jokes and then we recap the book and we talk about the best books of this year we rate the top redheads books and our top books of the year like what are your we're actually going to do that episode soon of our top everything of the year but check it out you guys We're actually going to do that episode soon. Of our top. Everything of the year.

But check it out you guys. Don't sleep on the redheads. Because it is like this really special. Corner of the internet. Where we're having a good time. And you're missing out. So it's never too late to become a redhead. Never.

Ever. Have an amazing weekend you guys. We love you. And we'll see you back in studio on Monday. Bye. Bye. Love you. Bye.