The Toast - Keep Your Man Ugly: Monday, December 2nd, 2024

Episode Date: December 2, 2024

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Good morning, millennials. Welcome back to the Toast and happy Monday that if there ever were a Monday today would be the one. If there ever were a Monday. It's so funny how last week we were going on and on about how the days and feel like the days and how silly are we because the rest of the year is just we could write it off. No, we got hit over the head with a Monday.

I don't even know how we can continue on. Like seriously, even begin the show without acknowledging where the hell you are. You guys. Donde esta, Jackie? Donde esta La Follet? La Follet es el estudio nueva. Studio nueva, this is not.

If you're watching on YouTube, you're probably like, what holiday extravaganza is Jackie filming from? What a bright time. It's the right time to rock the stage at Gizno. Yeah, she really wanted to promote Gizno, so she rented this studio. This is for Gizno.

No, I have so much to update you guys on. I have a new studio. No, I'm kidding. I moved. We've been talking about a rebrand. This is it. No, I am in Dallas, and we had do toastiness today and so I booked a studio here in Dallas and so far it's been so party and I didn't expect such festivity but I'm loving it

because I am so the elk of a spirited woman. No and the thing is and this is not going to be a relatable sentiment to our listeners so you guys I apologize but when you are like as homegrown as we are everything we dogrown as we are, everything we do, our studio, we built ourself, our tech, we run ourself, to just walk into a studio and have everything done for you, like, okay, am I Mariah Carey? It's like a-

Claudia, I was just about to say it's Mariah Carey. And you have nothing to worry about. Like I sit here in my studio while we record, and every probably 10 minutes, you probably see my eyes, I just check to make sure we're still recording, that the camera hasn't died, like I'm always checking my things, you have a to make sure we're still recording, that the camera hasn't died, like I'm always checking my things. You have a staff, okay staff?

Yeah, no, so I'm just kind of like talent today, walked in the studio, went to work, my brother-in-law drove me to work this morning. I've got my thermos full of coffee. You're so suburbs, I can't. I'm so, but the thing is I already live in the suburbs, I'm so Texan. You are. I'm so Texan.

This ain't Texas. And it's been great, and this is like a really great way I'm so, but the thing is I already live in the suburbs. I'm so Texan. I'm so Texan. I'm so Texan. And it's been great. And this is like a really great way for us to travel and work and- It's so true by the way. See the great studios of America. If, you know, barring there's no like tech issues afterwards and I'm able to get the episode up,

like you are free to move to Dallas. I'm loving this studio that you're at. This curtain is gorgeous. And we'll just have to get'm loving this studio that you're at. This curtain is gorgeous. And we'll just have to get you some wallpaper and you're good. Yeah, also I just feel like every studio brings its own energy. And not only does this studio give me a je ne sais quoi,

I had the worst night's sleep of my entire life last night. What happened? I couldn't fall asleep, stay asleep. The boys were up, rotating alarms. I think my aura ring in total said I got like four hours of sleep, they're concerned over at aura. They're like, girl, stop what you're doing. They're having a meeting about it.

Plus also, the craziest thing happened to me this weekend. What? Did I even tell you this? Well, no you didn't because you've literally been ignoring me for weeks. I haven't spoken to you seriously since the toast on Thursday, Wednesday. I have not tell you this. Well, no you didn't because you've literally been ignoring me for weeks. I haven't spoken to you seriously since the toast on Thursday, Wednesday. I have not spoken to you.

I mean, we did finally FaceTime last night so you could see the voice. For 10 seconds. We didn't even have swirly chat. So we haven't swirly chatted since the toast on Tuesday. I seriously know nothing about you. I don't know where you are. I know nothing about you. And you don't even know what I've been through this weekend. No, we have so much to catch up on,

like on a swirly level before we even get into the Fast Five. Which are juicy. But what happened to me, I don't know if you heard through the grapevine, but I was struck down on Saturday. I had the worst stomach bug, 24 hours. Oh my God, both ends? Could not get out of bed.

What'd you say? Both ends? I know you don't like to talk about it. Not Noro style, just like, just so strange. I can't even pinpoint what it was. It was like nausea and belly ache in the morning. And then I took a Zofran, so that sort of subsided. But then I just had like body aches and chills for the, and I went to sleep at eight o'clock

and I woke up around eight o'clock, not the greatest sleep, and I felt so much better the next day. It was really just 24 hours. It was the craziest thing. But you know, notovirus is going around. I can't say. I've had notovirus and it wasn't that.

It was just a some something. It's disgusting what they're trying to do to you. Maybe it's because you abandoned your family and God wanted to punish you. Cause you literally. Maybe, or maybe you wanted to punish me, so you sent me. A bottle, no to win a bottle. Tell the Lannisters it was me.

That's terrible, I'm really sorry. Nothing ruins a holiday weekend more than both ends. Yeah, it wasn't like that, but I guess for drama's sake, yeah, it was both ends, crazy. She's crazy. So yeah, it's not been a restful weekend last night, barely slept, and all's to say that we'll contribute to the energy today, whatever that energy may be.

So you're kind of letting everyone know you're on your period, kind of. If you have a bit of an attitude today, that's why. Then that's, everyone knows why I used to share my periods. Oh, I wanted to talk about periods. That's not what I was trying to say. I'm just like, I just think today's going to be different from all other episodes. Oh wow. Okay. It's a front, right? I mean, look around. It's already different. She has a curtain.

Feast. And if you're listening as a podcast, we'll post stuff to the Instagram so you don't miss. So you can see the curtain. Yeah. Wait, I had something to say. Oh, you know, I was thinking yesterday about, something I've always thought about like being pregnant is like, oh, like a nice fun bonus of being pregnant

in addition to, you know, the joy of life is like, you don't get your period for like a year, right? Right. And so it occurred to me, like over the weekend, it's been a couple of months since I got my period. And let me tell you, I don't care. Like I would take my period over some of the side effects I'm experiencing.

Like it's literally not a perk. No, like pregnancy symptoms are extreme period symptoms. They're not even remotely on the same level. Which you'll make up for all the bleeding that you missed postpartum. Yeah. You got a lot of bleeding to catch up on. I'm here just to constantly remind everyone about the perks and the downfalls and there are definitely more negatives

than there are perks. I discovered a few perks this weekend. Like Romeo shit his crate and I walked in to wake him up and the room smells and I'm like, did somebody die? It was so smelly and then I opened the crate and I was like, ah! And I literally like went running out of the room gagging and it was such an ordeal to clean it up.

And I didn't have to do any of it. Like Ben did it all. So there are, you know, small silver linings to this journey. Now let me ask you, in what world would Romeo have shot his crate, pregnant or not pregnant, and you would be cleaning it up instead of Ben?

So funny, cause I shared this on my Instagram and I got that reception a lot and I'm shocked that people would think that like I would let Ben clean up duty. Like he's such an insufficient cleaner and you know, okay, cleaning a dish is different than cleaning up duty. Like in my home, anytime Romeo has had an accident, like doing all the laundry and like spraying down the crate,

that's obviously me. I was surprised that so many people thought like that would be a Ben job no matter what. Like, are you guys crazy? I would never leave him in charge of fecal matter down the crate. That's obviously me. I was surprised that so many people thought like that would be a Ben job no matter what. Like, are you guys crazy? I would never leave him in charge of fecal matter in the home. It's too serious. It's too grave.

Of the sanitation department. You're right. Did he complete the task? He did. And I, you know, with a watchful eye behind him, I was really being like- Right, with his supervisor. I was being really nutty.

Oh, also so much going on, first of all. So if you're a Patreon member, you know this already, but over the weekend we dropped two fabulous episodes. One of them was Ben and I, we recorded a Patreon over Thanksgiving Day weekend. So many people had been wanting to hear from Ben, like post-pregnancy. It was the funniest episode

and it was supposed to be about like pregnancy and like the journey and fatherhood and it was, but like there was a big chunk in the middle, probably like 25 minutes, that just became a referendum on hygiene. And we had this big conversation about teeth brushing. I don't know if you know this, like I have a husband and I'm glad that I shared it

because it turns out a lot of people do. I have a husband who like I fight with to brush his teeth. Like it's like I have to beg and plead, like get on my knees, okay? And then we had a bunch of like dental professionals in the comments sounding off. And I just wanted to ask, if you had to choose one time of day to brush your teeth,

like that would be like the most impactful. When do you think it would be? The morning. So it actually turns out that what they say in the dental field is like, you brush your teeth in the morning for the world, but you brush your teeth at night for your dentist. Like for the actual health of your teeth,

it's much more important to brush at night. And that's why I'm always fighting Ben. Apparently like it's a thing that men do. Like they don't brush their teeth at night. And oh my God, it was so funny on the podcast. Do you ever have to like push him to brush his teeth in the morning? No, and so this is Ben's like philosophy.

He brushes his teeth in the shower. He leaves his toothbrush and his toothpaste in the shower and he always showers in the morning. So sometimes he showers before bed and then he'll brush his teeth. But like to him, like taking the toothbrush out of the shower and bringing it to the sink is, you know, such a journey that he just couldn't possibly

bear the brunt of it. So sometimes he ends up not brushing his teeth. And I seriously have gotten to the habit of being like, I'm going to brush my teeth. Should we do it together? Like making it a fun activity. Like it- Maybe you could get him a toothbrush shaped like an airplane.

I've actually gotten them another toothbrush for him that we leave at the sink. So you have your sink toothbrush. A toothbrush shaped like a fork. Jackie, I left him a toothbrush at the sink. And then, so he has one in the shower. He doesn't have to move it. And then one in the sink.

Cut to a few weeks later, he was like, went to go brush his teeth and he's using my toothbrush. And I said, what are you doing? He said, this is my toothbrush. I said, no, it's fucking not. So we can't even, we can't handle having two toothbrushes at the sink. I just want you to know,

like if someone's listening to this episode, maybe their first time or they stumbled here by accident and they don't know that Ben is your husband, like they would assume he's your child. Having to convince him to brush his teeth, you bought him a special toothbrush for outside of the shower. Well, sometimes it does feel like I am his mother. Like this morning, I had to call him to brush his teeth. You bought him a special toothbrush for outside of the shower. Well, sometimes it does feel like I am his mother.

Like this morning, I had to call him into the kitchen and be like, listen, you're not in trouble. But I love to hand wash dishes. I actually feel like it's, sometimes the dishwasher just gives me yucky vibes. So certain things, if there's not raw meat, like we use a knife to cut a vegetable, it could be hand washed.

Well, knives should be hand washed anyway. Yes, of course, I do know that, but I'm just using it as an example. So we have this drying rack, and when I come in the morning, there's a couple of dishes on the drying rack that are dry, and almost every single one of them still has food on it. So I had to call him in and be like,

listen, I wanna talk to you about something. You're not in trouble, but this is unacceptable. He had a meeting with the supervisor. You can't put away dishes with food. And seriously, he had the absolute audacity to say to me, listen, I tried my best. A for effort. I'm like, that's unacceptable.

This isn't like a test on math. You didn't try your best. You just didn't try. Like the spoon was still sticky. Weaponized incompetence. That is a classic case. I'm trying to get all of this under control before, you know, God willing, the baby comes

because like, I can't live like this, two children, I can't. No, no, now's the time. That is so funny that your version of nesting is like bootcamp. Is literally bootcamp. All's left to say, there's a great new Patreon episode that you guys are gonna love, so head over to patreon.com.

All's left to say. Slash the toast. And let's talk about our holiday weekends, because I kicked off the holiday going to the parade, which I had talked to everyone about, like how excited I was. And of course, like the year that I get to go to the Thanksgiving Day parade, front row seats,

VIP treatment is the day of like the biggest storm. Apparently New York has been experiencing droughts. I had no idea. So it was like a good storm, but definitely like took its toll on the parade. I think I got sick. Like it was just, it was a lot for one person. I'm so sorry.

And it affected me too, because I was really excited to look for Coders. Where's Coders in the crowd? And by the time, like we are on an hour delay here. So like by the time I turned on the parade, like you were gone in real time. Me and Ben were like shuffling in and out, which like you weren't supposed to do it

once you get to your seats, like you're really not supposed to move, but I'm sorry. Like we were sitting in the torrential rain and they had this like fabulous little lounge inside with like a ton of food and stuff. So we kept like going back and forth, but also we very quickly realized our seats were like three seats off camera.

Like we were just out of the view. So even when I was there, like for sitting, no one was seeing me, which was just, it was definitely upsetting except that I wore this coat and they made me put a poncho, well they didn't make me, but they gave out these ponchos and like I'm sitting in the rain, so I'm wearing the poncho. And something about the way the poncho laid on my jacket,

I actually looked like a linebacker. Like I looked huge, I had this like hump, like a turtle, like I had this shell on my back. And I actually- Turtle? I did not wanna be seen, turtle the turtle. I didn't wanna be seen on television, so I was actually grateful for the seats.

But it was star-studded. Let me tell you. Who was I sitting next to? Jessica Chastain and her kids and her husband. Tell us everything. Skylar Astin, obviously. Did you talk to anyone? I spoke to Ben.

Oh, and then- You were sitting next to Jessica Chastain. Was there a word exchange? So the thing is, is that Jessica Chastain and I both actually follow each other on social media. And I believe we've DM'd like once or twice. That's always so awkward. Whether or not it's an A-list star,

like a girl from your town that you both follow and then you like run into each other and it's like, why do we follow each other? Yeah, like I kind of wish she wasn't there, honestly. Like it was so awkward. And so when she came, she was like with her kids and she was like clearly in mom mode and also very flustered

because she also was sitting in the rain. And I'm like, what? It's flustering and blustering. Jackie, I'm gonna go up to her and be like, hi, Jessica, I'm growing the job. No, but if you were sitting next to her, oh, oh, oh my God. I wasn't sitting next to her,

there was like three people between us. Oh, it's freezing, just a little something, you know? Yeah, I didn't wanna bother her and I actually have no regrets about not bothering her. She was, seriously, she looked just like anyone else. Like a really involved, kind of overwhelmed parent. Understood. And Skylar Aston. Skylar Aston.

I feel like him and Ben would be friends. Yeah. He was in a third row. So I didn't really talk to him because I was in the first. You didn't talk to people in the third row. And then you know who I did see, which I texted you, but you didn't answer. Kind of the theme of the weekend. Who did you see?

Joey Grazia Day, old school vibe. Okay, you text, old school vibe, my boy. You, we also like, he's kind of the man of the hour. I know, so- You texted me that in a flurry of other text messages, so I never got to respond to that. Like you saw him in the stands, you saw him in the show, like what was he doing?

Oh no, he was a part of my VIP crew, like with the lounge and the seats and the ponchos. I didn't see where he was sitting. I didn't see where he was sitting because he, I saw him in the lounge. Cause he's so far behind you. I saw him in the lounge and then I went out like the second the show started,

cause I wanted to be there for like, you know, opening kickoff. And I think him and the swirly were like having a cocktail inside. And then like 30 minutes later, when I went inside for a break, he was coming out. Like we were kind of on different schedules. So I didn't even see-

Two ships passing. And I did want to say hello to him, except like now everyone, he just won Dancing with the Stars. So like, I didn't, I don't care about that. Like I cared about him when he was the old school vibe kind of guy. Right, right. And I just know like if I went up to him

and he would be like, oh, another Dancing with the Stars fanatic. And like, I don't even give a fuck that he won. I just like wanted to talk to him about the old school vibe. Right. Like we didn't watch his season. We don, another Dancing with the Stars fanatic. And I don't even give a fuck that he won. I just wanted to talk to him about the old school vibe. Right, we didn't watch his season. We don't watch Dancing with the Stars, but we're really big fans. Of his work on page six.

Of his work on my Instagram algorithm, seeing pictures of him and his lady, neither of whom I follow, but I really enjoy seeing them come through my algo once in a while. Same, and that's the only regurt that I have. Okay, no regurts then. We watched the parade. It was jolly good fun.

And I just want to say that everyone who participated in the parade, like, put those French can-can dance Olympics openers to shame. It's so true. The girls who couldn't dance on the riverbank and said it was because it's raining, like, I'm seeing high schoolers in a kick line. It's so true.

And what's your excuse? Were you keeping count of how many fell? Because that was like, seriously my activity of the day. And it was like so sad, but so funny. I mean, I don't know. They were like, I don't forget if it was like a college or high school doing an Irish river dance. Which seriously, I dare you not to slip.

That's the fall that I saw. It was the one and only fall that I saw. It made me really sad. But my concern is I don't want anyone tearing an ACL over the Thanksgiving Day parade. I don't want any career ending injuries. And even if you fell, it just means that you gave it your all. Don't be embarrassed.

Seriously, because look what happens when you are too scared to fall, can-can dancers. I guess maybe because they would have fallen in the river. They would have fallen off a cliff and cracked their heads open. It's the Olympics. The whole world's watching. I don maybe because they would have fallen in the river. I know, like they would have fallen off a cliff and cracked their heads open, yeah. It's the Olympics, like the whole world's watching. I don't know what to tell you. Take a risk.

Or like move the dance. That is just so crazy to me, how the Thanksgiving Day parade, like these are high schoolers who gave it their all, left it all for a couple of, like, you know, a nationwide performance, whereas the Olympics global audience, they couldn't can-can.

I'll never get over it. No, it kind of was like a sleigh on everyone's behalf, like Hoda, Savannah, Al, Jimmy Fallon, like everybody really, and then of course the performers, the Rockettes, the Broadway shows, the high schools. It really was a sleigh, even though it was not ideal. And let me tell you, whatever it looked like on TV in person, it was worse.

It did not let up for 30 seconds. The rain was vicious, like truly vicious. I love the parade. It's literally the best time of year. It's the most beautiful thing ever. And I hope to be invited back next year so I can like actually see it in like the sun. Yeah, in the glory that it was meant to be seen in.

We got up to the part in the parade until the Disney cruise float, where like Mickey and the gang like sang a song on a boat. And then we just had to keep rewinding and watching that. Maybe 50 times. And that was the end of the parade. I also want to talk about Dasha, if I may. That was my next point.

We absolutely have to talk about Dasha. Now I'm extremely sympathetic to, you know, any sort of faux pas when it comes to like wardrobe, hair, makeup, especially in the rain. So the fact that she began singing and had probably been on that float for two hours, drenched in rain. So her extensions were still straight,

but her natural hair was curly and she had a mullet. Like I actually- Thank you for explaining that to me. I thought that was a style choice and I didn't mind it. No, cause I saw her TikToks like on the way in the car and she had like a full glam blowout, but the extensions like stayed one way and the natural hair reverted to its natural state.

And then her lipstick was all like, she obviously wasn't wearing waterproof lipstick, which was a huge mistake on behalf of her makeup artist, but like all these things are par for the course. I think it- Like that's like someone falling. Like I am not mad at you, like forgive yourself. A thousand percent.

But what I can't forgive and what I actually want to forget is the outfit. I was actually, her performance was so, it struck me in so many ways. One because of the lipstick, obviously, but that's really not her fault. And then I just started looking at her and I was like, what the hell are you wearing?

Like, seriously, you're wearing underwear and a bra. First of all, it's one degree outside, it's pouring rain. And this is a show for kids. No, it's for the children. Not only was her outfit inappropriate, but the way she was moving, there was no need for that. And I feel like maybe every year, there's always one new pop star on the scene

who wants to make a moment and just be inappropriate. And I just feel like the Thanksgiving Day Parade is not the place for that. It's really just a beautiful family-friendly affair, and perhaps it's the maternal spirit taking over me, but I actually found it downright offensive. No, and she's someone who I would like. She's got country hits, and people wanna push the envelope,

do stuff every once in a while, okay, a little edgy. When you do it in kids' spaces, I'm done with you. There's a time and a place for pushing the envelope and the Thanksgiving Day parade is not it. And it's not in kids' spaces. It's not in kids' spaces. So she kind of definitely was a moment for me. Yeah, that was a shock, I think, for everyone.

But it did also sort of unite the nation. It did sort of unite the nation. And hopefully she just takes, you know, this is a learning process. So hopefully that's just something she learns. Yeah, I could, I could eventually forgive it. Maybe she didn't, maybe she never saw the Thanksgiving Day parade and maybe she's not American is she? It was for 21 plus.

Literally. It's kind of like when someone botches the national anthem, like it's so disrespectful, but it's also really funny. Yeah. But with the botching of the national anthem, like I don't think that people set out to be disrespectful. You think she set out because she had bad intentions. If you know where you're going and you put on that outfit, she's not blind.

No, but also, it was the... No, and Jackie, imagine at dress rehearsals and stuff, you're standing next to Mickey Mouse and that's the outfit you're wearing. Yeah. Like, it's not nice. No, you need to have that rule. Like, if your skirt doesn't hit the bottom

of your middle finger when you put your arms down, it's too short for the Thanksgiving Day parade. Other than that, all I did all weekend was like eat everything in sight. And I watched so much television. Ben made me watch D, One, Two, and three, The Mighty Ducks. Have you ever seen them? Oh, I thought you were gonna say

Descendants, one, two, and three. Oh, I wish. Jackie, seriously? And I think Ben had this experience too, which sucks, because he loved these movies growing up, then you watch them as an adult, and you're like, oh, Emilio Estevez is a freak. The movies are horrible,

and Emilio Estevez leaving after the second movie when the franchise was so popular, it's big time, losery of him. The movies- I can't believe you watched that. I fell asleep. No one could ever make me watch something like that. During both.

Jackie, well I was really, I was in one of those moods where I was like nauseous and everything was making me nauseous, everything Ben was suggesting to watch. So then he just put on Disney Plus and for some reason Disney Plus like settles my stomach. Like I find it unoffensive. So I'm like put on whatever you want. And I was like going to sleep within the hour.

He's like, we have to watch Mighty Ducks. I'm like, okay, you know what? I read Kenan's book actually. We don't have to watch Mighty Ducks. I'd heard a lot about it, you know, growing up and I wanted to see what it was about. I feel like you had to be there. It was one of those things.

Horrible. And seriously, maybe I'm just like an adult now. I was, there were so many inconsistencies in the movie. I'm like, how could you have watched this? It makes no fucking sense. Yeah. The movies are horrible. No, and even the premise, like now I'll watch an old movie

and I'll recognize it was probably, you had to be there and it was better then, but it's like a fun, like first wives club. Like that's just like a fun swirly concept. A bunch of young kid hockey players. Jackie, can I tell you what happens in the movie? Like you're gonna crack up. It's so stupid, ready?

So, Emilio Estevez is this big time lawyer and he gets pulled over for a DUI and like part of his community service is like coaching this peewee team. And this peewee team, he gets like the bad district, like they stink and all the other teams have like a lot of money and they're really good and they're in Minnesota where like hockey is life.

So in the first movie, you know, he turns it around, gives them love and money and they're really good and they're in Minnesota where like hockey is life. So in the first movie, you know, he turns it around, gives them love and attention and they're really good and I think they win like the Pee-Wee championship, okay? It's classic Globo Gym versus Average Joe's. Just wait, first of all, they never would have beat the other teams. Like it's just absurd. Okay, but I can suspend disbelief they beat the other teams

because they had, I don't know, heart. In the second movie, after such a banger first season, who takes notice of Emilio Estevez and his team? Oh, just the Junior Olympics, okay? And they hire Emilio Estevez and the Ducks to join you one pee-wee season, and you stink, and all the kids are like homeless street rats. Like, don't understand like where they come from.

They keep picking kids up off the street. Now you're going to the Olympics. Oh, and by the way, spoiler alert, they win. Like it's just, it's so stupid. Damn. It's a perfect movie for a kid. Cause you really need to like know nothing to believe it. Yeah. It's for the Elk of dreamers.

It's for the Elk of dreamers. Then I also watch The Empress, which I feel like you were talking about. Yay! Oh my god, I'm always talking about The Empress. It's a fictional drama. No, it's actually based on a true story. It's like The Crown, right? It's like The Crown, but it's Austria, Hungary. The Austrian Empire.

Yeah, the Austrian Empire, Sisi of Austria, who was married to King Franz. Emperor Franz, and she was married to the worst emperor of all time. I don't know what the perception of Sisi and her mans was prior to this. Are they known, are they like the greats? What do people think of them?

Because I think she's fucking annoying, and he was seriously one of the worst emperors. And I don't know, spoiler alert, I know the Austrian emperor is, I know the Austrian emperor is, I know the Austrian empire no longer exists. I don't know how they got there, but I imagine Cece and her dumb ass husband were a part of it, cause like they are a ruin,

like some of the worst leaders on the planet. Well, after I watched season one of that series, as I anxiously awaited season two that I think just dropped and I haven't watched yet, I read two books on Cece, written by my swirly Allison Pataki. I think she wrote- Oh, Marjorie Post. Yeah, so I got the gist on Cece

and like basically when her and her husband got married, they like, it was a love match, they thought they were in love, but like she, and everyone around them said it and they didn't care because they thought love would conquer all and love does not conquer all in a situation like this. She was not cut out for the life of the empress, of just the daily, everything that it entails.

So they grew apart, he cheated on her a million times, gave her STDs. Oh my god. Yeah. They didn't cover that one, so. She had a lot of affairs, she wound up spending a lot of time in Britain. She was just like very tortured,

but she spent a lot of time in like self care and beauty. So she was like always known as like the most beautiful woman in all of Europe. Like I think literally into her sixties, like just a gargy pargy girly who liked toruses. That must've been exciting to have booked that role. You know, they're looking for the most beautiful woman in all of Europe.

And mom, I got the role. Like that is exciting. I keep thinking about that. Yeah. Did you watch season two? Yeah, I'm all caught up. Oh, so, okay. Don't I, I don't, I wonder where in the history books season two ends.

Cause there's so much within that story. That's so crazy about like the sons and whatever, but just to bring it back to something else that you learned that I know is one of your new favorite facts about how did world War I begin. Archduke Franz Ferdinand, who's that? He is like the grand nephew of Franz that you're watching, like he was in line.

Oh my God, the more you know, I'm about to slay Jeopardy. Yeah, just connecting. And Ben loved the Empress, like we woke up every day on the holiday weekend. He was like, should we watch? Should we watch? I couldn't believe he was so obsessed with it. I highly recommend just a good swirly drama

while also you learn something. Like I met Napoleon. I said, oh, I know you. It's really legit. Yeah, also it's dubbed. So it's actually even more impressive that you liked it because it's like, that's always a little more impressive that you liked it because it's like, that's always a little bit tough.

I'm glad you brought that up because me and Ben were discussing that as well. I said it's a real testament to how good this show is because if it were any other show, the second I realized it's not in English and I have to watch a mismatched lips speaking, I would have turned it off. And it didn't even bother me, I didn't even notice it.

Yeah, oh my God, I'm so glad you liked it. I'm so excited to watch season two. It was so good. And if you like, like, the crown and historical, nonfiction dramas, even though they changed some stuff, I think, um, The Empress. On Netflix. Finally, season two is here. And I'm all caught up on Yellowstone.

I'm sure you're not because you're not home. I'm not. But did you watch the episode before last? No, I'm now two behind after last night. Something really crazy happens. Me and Ben were shocked. I won't spoil it. Watch it, download it for the plane.

I will, I will. I'll catch up. I'm very excited. So it was just like kind of like a rotting weekend for me. I like lost brain cells and gained pounds, you know? Yes, understood. Unfortunately, I couldn't eat as much as I had wanted because on Saturday I didn't eat a thing. Not a thing. Actually, I had like seven crackers, but after, but

literally nothing more than that. And then yesterday I was so nervous to set off my stomach that I ate less than I normally would and very bland. Um, the brat diet. So I didn't get to just like, you know, try all the pies in my County. Oh, that is sad. Cause I feel like Dallas County pies hit different. Right? Like, I don't know. I just feel, that is sad. Cause I feel like Dallas County pies hit different. Right? Like, I don't know. I just feel, I feel robbed. That sucks.

And I'm sure your weekend was like total opposite. I saw you were like out and about with the boys, like doing all types of holiday things. Yeah. Our burrito, walking, shopping as much as we could fit in. So it was, it's been nice. And also like now all the lights are out. It's just so festive and so wonderful.

And you almost don't mind that it gets dark so early because you get to see everyone's lights on their homes and it's really nice. Now, let me ask you a question. I'm sure a lot of people wonder this. Do you think you could see yourself living there? Well, let's see how today's episode uploads. No, I don't know why it just feels like so much further

from you, do you know what I mean? I also think from, because like Texas really has its own culture, like that's so different than like Florida, New York. Even though like you're like in a Texas Jewish community, it feels so culturally different. Literally it could be another country. Texas, like they have their own set of rules,

their own set of everything. No, but I don't know, for some reason, even though I'm sure distance-wise and like the plane ride isn't even that different, like moving to Florida feels like moving closer from home than moving to Texas. Florida is like an annex of New York. Yeah, are there rumors that I, yeah, they are.

And the people who live in both places, like they just come and go and they're interchangeable. Yeah, right. Are there rumors that I'm moving? No, I don't think so, but I think like it's something people wonder, like that's where it's at for I don't think so, but I think it's something people wonder, like that's where Zach's from, you have so much family there.

Also, whenever people travel, I think Ben especially is on Zillow there, like, could I live here? Ben loves Zillow. I don't think I really think like that. Oh, I'm always everywhere I go, like picturing what my life would look like in that place. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's fab here. The second we wrapped Wednesday's episode last week, our last episode of the week, huge news about Vanity Prep rules came out. Then our faves got engaged over the weekend. Like I kind of love taking five days off because

it makes the day we come back so exciting. Yeah. I mean, between you and I, like on a personal level, Miss my girl catching up with you. And then the stories are storying. And when you don't pick up the phone, when I call you, then it makes it so much more exciting to talk to you on the toes. Like I actually look forward to coming to work

because I'm like, oh, I get to see my long lost sister. And I called you back three separate times yesterday, like hours apart and you didn't pick up. So just add that to the record. I was taking my daily two hour nap. So like, please respect pregnant woman. The second time I was watching Yellowstone, my stupid fucking phone was on do not disturb from the nap.

Like I forgot to turn it off after the nap. That one was my fault. The third one I was watching the new episode of Yellowstone. You called me at like 8.15, it started at 8. I can't apologize for that. But what I can apologize for is like, I picked up my phone at 8.24 and I saw that you called me at 8.20. So can't apologize for that. But what I can apologize for is like, I picked up my phone at 824 and I saw that you called me at 820.

So I was four minutes late, like pick up when I call you back. I was on the other line. I figured you might be. And I knew that when I was done with that call, I would call you back and I was just gonna make you like wait for it. Yeah, and you made me wait like 15 minutes.

I was chatting. So that's why I don't want you moving to Dallas because I seriously can't get in contact with you. And we're in different time zones. Yes, although I kind of like the different time zones because I'm laying in bed, it's like 8.30. I'm like, shit, normally I'd be like, oh, I miss the boys, they're asleep.

But it's really 7.30 and they were up. So I actually don't mind the time difference. Okay, it works for us. Yeah. Intercontinental. Yeah. Okay, let's get into the stories because we must do that. And I feel adequately caught up with my sister, as always,

if I remember anything that I want to share with you or the class. It's our show. Just chime in. We make the rules. This is our show. We make the rules. That's beautiful.

Thank you. How was Parsley's weekend? She spent it in Nashville with her family and Travis's family, the Kelseys. All of them came. Even Kylie and the girls. We actually had that as a story, so I don't know why I just asked that. Oh, OK.

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Thank you, Turtimore. What can I say except, you're welcome. Moana too is out now. Yes, Olivia saw it over the weekend. She loved it. Yeah, how nice. Our first story, the big news that dropped

right after we wrapped on Tuesday, but I'm kind of glad because we've getting more information in the last five days. And there was a new episode of Sheenanigans out that really added some color. Yes, and they've released just information about the Valley and Vanderpump Rules season 12 will be completely rebooted with a new cast.

And to be clear, that's the upcoming season? Yes. So they don't even get like goodbye or nothing. It's like you're fired. It's over, yeah. We thought that they had filled, and it's so crazy because it's just so classic us. We were talking about this on Tuesday,

so I actually don't even feel like we missed out that much. We had this conversation about where do they go from here? And I was telling you how they're at a standstill because of salaries, except the only thing that I got wrong was that Jumah had said that this season is being filmed and it's good, but where do we go from here? But there is no this season. So here's the information that we have.

On November 26th, Bravo announced that the hit series was renewed, but the twist in the martini glass is that Vanderpump Rules will feature a brand new cast going forward. Lisa Vanderpump said in a press release, in the restaurant business, one shift always gives way to another. Cheers to the next generation of Vanderpump Rules. So the original cast learned of the major series shakeup 24 hours before the news was made public.

Pretty much everyone is off the show except for Lisa Vanderpump. And now it is being reported that the Valley season two will feature Sheena, Tom Schwartz and La La following the reboot news. So that's where we're at at the moment. So I understand completely and I don't disagree with why they did this. Like it's not sustainable. However, having said that, they did attempt of small-ish sort of reboot.

And I think those were some of the worst years on Vanderpump Rules, like dreadful storylines, dreadful people, Max, Brett, Danica, Charlie, like that was horrible. So I don't have a lot of faith that this new reboot show they're gonna put together is gonna be good. Having said that, I actually think that a lot of the cast graduating, like the whole tie to Sir

makes no sense anymore. Like these people are parents. Like, so having La La, Sheena, I find Time Schwartz really like an interesting choice. Having them graduate to the Valley, especially when the Valley was so successful, I think is natural. I just, I think this is the end of the OG show

because no one is gonna watch this. Yeah, so while I do think what we said last week about the salary cap issue being a major issue, the sources are saying that there had been a long pause in production and nothing had really changed among the cast since the season 11 reunion. The network felt there was no path forward with the group in that capacity.

I do think if they turned the camp- Well, the network felt there was no path forward with the group in that capacity. I do think if they turned the camera. What I had heard was that Ariana was in negotiations and she doesn't give a fuck, she has so many opportunities. So not only did she want, I think, a million dollars, something huge, she also wanted stipulations in her contract that she didn't have to film any scenes with Sandoval, no scenes with Lala, things that really make the show,

we're gonna pay you a million dollars and you're not even gonna participate, like really not. It's not workable. I think that if they didn't have rules like that and they put them all on a cast trip together and turn the cameras on, I think they could have had entertainment value. But it's, as they say, nothing lasts forever.

I thought Sheena had a really good outlick on it, but also knowing that she's gonna be on the valley. It's easy for her. It's easy for her to like say goodbye to this, like her next job is waiting. This wasn't going to go on forever. And things change. People graduate.

So I think this makes a lot of sense. I'm actually glad they're just ripping the band-aid off and not letting the whole show go. Even though they technically did this with Roni, I don't feel like it's the same. I feel like this is a better use of this idea. Well, Roni, yeah, is the natural comparison. Roni felt really premature.

Like, I don't think there was really a lot of demand. It didn't feel like they were at this standstill. There was like an issue that the women were drinking too much and like going on in circles. And then the next morning they had no idea what they were talking about. So it felt like a little bit of a waste of time, but there were fixes to it.

And the women really wanted it. Now it's like everybody shows up to find a proposal and they don't even wanna be there. Like there's a lack of interest and I think that's where the two situations are really different. But Bravo just doesn't have a great track record thus far of rebooting shows.

The good news is though, I feel like there's really a lot of potential there. Well, I guess they're gonna cast from whoever is already working at Sir, but I feel like people in LA, they want this so badly. They're gonna do what it takes to make great television and maybe we'll get a real junior version of Vanderpump Rules, the one that we all loved.

Now, as someone who is in my Valley era and who really enjoyed Valley season one, one, I've heard Valley season two is insane. Did you hear this? Oh my God. Where are you hearing things? I don't know where I saw this. I literally have no idea.

Probably just something in my explore page that it's the craziest season of reality TV ever. Oh my God. You should watch season one. I should. And now that Lala is gonna be there, like of course I'll still be watching even though I already was going to.

And I just wanna say I'm holding space, a lot of fucking space for Lala and Tom Schwartz because what reason is there for him to be on the Valley? She was on Watch What Happens Live last week and Andi was asking her about relationships with different cast mates like Ariana, she hasn't spoken to her, Katie, she hasn't spoken to her, Schwartz.

She said, I love Schwartzy. Yeah, I think that we feel it. I think we're not, like everyone, we're not feeling nothing. Like there's something there. If there ever was a reason think we're not, like everyone, we're not feeling nothing. Like there's something there. If there ever was a reason for them to not, especially from Lala's POV, it was her relationship with Katie,

even when it was strained. But when she was on Watch Time's Live, she said she hasn't spoken to Katie. Like there is no friendship there. Now they don't even work together on the show. Like what the hell does Lala owe Katie? I think it's definitely a possibility. And it could be one of those things

that like gives the valley, like it's sort a possibility and it could be one of those things that like gives the Valley like it's sort of Scandival moment. Like it's, it would be huge. But it also could have been the thing that saved Vanderpump rules. But the thing is even Scandival didn't save Vanderpump rules. No, sorry, gave it a season and a half. Yeah, it gives you, it gives you a little bit more life

but maybe like the production company couldn't afford it and the Valley could. Cause I, Sheena La La, I mean, Sheena and not times where it's actually just Sheena is the only one going to the Valley who was an OG cast member from Vandermorp rules season one. So she was one of the hot, her Katie Maloney and Tom Sandoval were the only people who from season one

were full-time cast members. So they were the highest paid on Vandermorp rules. I guarantee you, Sheena took a significant pay cut to be on the Valley, but that sustains her podcast, that sustains her Instagram, all the things that make her money. 100%, her YouTube, yeah. No, it's good business. And now I should rather be on TV than not be on TV.

Everybody's talking about the Valley. They're gonna be talking about the Valley. It's only in its infancy. So it's all up for them and I'm really happy. And I feel like the people who didn't make it to the Valley, most of them seem uninterested in reality TV anyway, like Ariana and Katie. And I think it's no, no, no.

I think the only person who wasn't invited to the Valley and I understand why, but I do think it's a miss to not have James Kennedy on TV at all. And he needs to get married. I bet you now he gets engaged and they have a baby just so he can get on the Valley. Like I like how having a baby or like trying to conceive is like literally the one rule to getting on the valley,

which is why I don't understand how Tom Schwartz is. But that's so Tom Schwartz. That has been Tom Schwartz's. Tom Schwartz is just one of those people. I think that's why so many of the cast members had fights with him like bored under a lucky star. He never worked at Sir. He never worked for Lisa Vanderpump.

He ends up getting his own bar. He is a huge castmate on this show. He never worked at the restaurant and never worked for Lisa Vanderpump. He ends up getting his own bar. He is a huge castmate on this show. He never worked at the restaurant and served all those years in the back alley, smoking cigarettes like everybody else. He never put in his time, but he gets these things cause he's like a likable guy. It's actually so unfair.

Yeah. That is, I forgot about James Kennedy. Where does James fall into all of this? Because he's also like kind of, I consider him more of like the new generation. Yeah, like he could be on the reboot. Yeah, he could. But I think they just wanna start fresh.

I don't want someone who's like, this is my restaurant. You know, like they need all new and I get that. And maybe he'll come to the Valley one day. Yeah, when he was all grown up. But he does live there. Yeah, he lives at the airport Like they have the house. They have the house. I don't know if that's in the Valley.

Well, the burbs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, he's on his way. So I'm very excited for Valley season two. And you know what, in hindsight, what we got at the season finale of the Underpump Rules last season, like that was a series finale.

Now we know why there was that weird montage. Well, I don't think they meant it that way, but I think they left space for like, how do we come back from here? We might not. So we're just gonna show you like really where we're at and what we're thinking. And in doing that, they put a period on it.

You know that it's a time. These are the best days of our lives. Just raise your glasses high. This one's for you tonight. It feels right. I'm ready. It does. I like change.

Yeah. It had to happen. Yeah. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Yeah. Some more marvelous changes in the air amongst love. Hailee Steinfeld and Josh Allen got engaged in a Rose filled proposal. They shared on Instagram this week that they will be getting married after getting engaged last week. They shared a photo of them on the water, rose. Honestly, I'm seeing a chuppah and a lot of candles. I'm seeing honestly that this was a wedding.

And it was a collab post and the caption was infinity, 11, 22, 24, infinity. Written by Josh Allen by the way. He's the lead on the collab. Oh. Actually, I feel like it depends on who you follow because mine came up Haley Seinfeld as the lead. This, yes, because you follow her,

but this is the People magazine embedded. Okay, okay. It's Josh. I opened my phone and saw this and like actually made a sound. Like I was like, ah! Like I knew these people. Did we not talk about this one week ago

that they need to get engaged and like the comparisons between them and Taylor and Travis, not then Taylor and Travis both liking this photo, like giving them ideas and shit? Yeah. I think it's all good for Paris and Trav, but not to take away from Hailey's moment

because like I'm really happy for her. She's really defied all the odds, all the Bills fans not liking her. I feel like she honestly kind of put her career on hold for this man and it's working out. Also, I don't know if you saw Josh Allen's ex making a little bit of drama. Somebody had left a comment on her post

being like, you need to find another NFL boyfriend now that yours is taken, something like I'm noxious. And she responded, well, actually my current boyfriend is the owner of the team, so no more CTE morons, something like that. Oh my God. Wait, and then she deleted the post, deleted the comments and wrote on her Instagram,

sorry guys, my Instagram's been getting hacked all weekend, like trying to figure it out, stay tuned. Okay, like seriously, lying about your Instagram being hacked or any social media is the biggest loser thing you could do on the planet. And it does remind me- For sure, especially because you just have a big pair of brass balls to say that. So keep them, say it.

Do you remember when Kasey Musgraves liked a tweet that was like derogatory about Taylor Swift and then said her Twitter was hacked? No. I do. It was years ago, before Casey was Casey. Like it was niche to me because I knew Casey, but people didn't know Casey. You can tell Casey like has Taylor Swift like-

Chip on her shoulder. Yeah, you know, she has that lyric. Never part of no big machine. Don't sound like- Go to a boys club. Yeah, no, if you've been present for the lore, like you could find things with Taylor and Kelsey, but, excuse me, what's her name?

Casey. Casey. Yeah, lying about your social media is getting hacked, like when you said something that you didn't like. It's a move, I respect it, but it's a really bad move. I actually don't respect it. And is she, like just to go back to the original point, like is she dating the owner?

I don't know who she was referring to. She says she, her current boyfriend, owns a team, and so she doesn't have to deal with any CTE idiots. Owns a team? Or an E-team? No, age, and not the bills. I thought, I thought, like, he owned the bills. I'm like, damn.

And I actually watched the bills game last night. Did you see? The bills played the 49ers, and it was like, 15 inches of snow. Like it was insane. People couldn't get to their seats. Okay. And the Bills won. And before the game started, I had a thought.

And then the more I was watching and this is going to offend some Bills fans. And like, seriously, I don't give a fuck. So like eat my ass. Cause I actually liked the Bills, but the Bills like have been consistently good for a couple of years. They don't win the Superbowl, but like,

they're always good, especially with Josh Allen. Like they're good. And they always have like consistently good for a couple of years. They don't win the Super Bowl, but they're always good, especially with Josh Allen, they're good. And they always have a good record, right? Because you play half your games at home, and you're training in the snow, and then you have people from the Miami Dolphins and the Sam, people playing in California, come to your town, and obviously you win.

And I saw this guy holding a sign that had a statistic, and they put it on TV. I'm like, you guys shouldn't be proud of that. It makes us realize, maybe you're not that good. You're just good at beating people like in the snow because this guy held a sign. It was like, we're 10 in one at home since 2020. Like for the last four years,

you've barely lost any games at home. Okay, so like, that's why you're good. Cause you trick people to coming, get a roof. Why is there no roof? Like literally in Minnesota where it's always snowing, the Vikings have a roof. Why the fuck would you A, like subject your players to playing in the snow? Like it's such a bad health risk. And two, like it's always snowing, the Vikings have a roof. Why the fuck would you A, like subject your players to playing in the snow?

Like it's such a bad health risk. And two, like it's a trick. I bet you if they closed that roof and they all played regular games and there was like air conditioning and shit like that, their record at home would not be so good. No, I don't know if you guys are ready for that conversation, but-

It's a good point, but I guess, like are they not better football players because they know how to play in all the elements? No, that doesn't make you a good football player because you know how to like slip and slide on snow. You like to dip. Yeah, no, and it's like, maybe if there were other. And you know how to pop and lock.

Jackie, there are no, maybe, maybe once every couple of years will it snow during a game, like in New York. Like it's very rare, but it's consistently always, there's like a ton of games every season. I just feel like we're not having that conversation out loud about Buffalo. And now I've said it. Now I've said it.

I think you raised like a really fair point and they'll never get a roof. Like they, that's too soft for them. They just like want to be hard. They want to be hard, but there's also like a, not cheating, but it's a method. It's a strategy. I just want to say like, and you are hard,

Bill's like fans and you're hard. Like I'm not a part of this conversation. Just get a roof and like, let's see what happens then. I would love to know like what the stats- I'm gonna fade into the curtains. She fades to black. I would just love to know what the stats would be with a roof.

Okay. I'll call the roofer. Yeah, get a quote. Get a quotefer. Yeah, get a quote. Get a quote. Never hurts to get a quote. That's not true. By the way, one thing about me, I'm always getting a quote.

It's sometimes so inconvenient to do all the leg work and for what? Not only that, sometimes it does hurt to get a quote because then you get like follow-up emails and texts for months on end. I got a quote and then I decided not to do it. Of course, that's what happens. The quote talks you out of the project. I got a quote and then I decided not to do it. Of course, that's what happens. The quote talks you out of the project.

I got a quote and I decided to do it. And then a few days later I was like, I'm not doing it. And then I had to like pay for the time that the quote. And it was like very off book. It wasn't like in the contract. You had to pay for the time of the quote? Yeah, he was like, don't you think you should like, Oh, you got swindled.

I came and I measured and. No, getting a quote is free. Yeah, no, we got swindled with a quote. Claudia, it was- Jackie, you're such a sucker. The biggest, everybody knows this. Oh my God. If you're looking to swindle someone out of money,

the vulnerable, she's right here. Yeah, no, it's true. I won't even lie. Jackie, you don't pay for a quote. That's seriously the whole concept of- The thing is though, my husband is the opposite of me. Yeah, you two balance each other out. So I am like, this is you. And thing is though my husband is the opposite of me. Like he will bite tooth and nail. So I am like, this is you.

And by the way, he was the one who took it on and still we had to like pay us something. I guess if I gave you more details maybe you would understand more, but still doesn't always like not hurt to get a quote. Right, you sound like somebody who got hurt. I got hurt. I got hurt.

I'm so sorry, I feel better. Anyways, mazel tov to Hailey Steinfeld and Josh Allen. I hope that they I got hurt. I'm so sorry, I feel better. Anyways, mazel tov to Hailey Steinfeld and Josh Allen. I hope that they will be converting. I hope they have a big, beautiful wedding. Is she Jewish? Yeah. Yeah, she is. Steinfeld.

Steinfeld, yeah. I never thought of that. So I hope that- I'll meet you under the chuppah, Josh. Do you think Josh Allen will wear a yarmulke? Oh my God, I'm freaking. I was excited about these two before I even realized that. Yeah.

You think Taylor and Travis will be at the wedding? No. Well, that will be the big tell. I think that they should be. But I think Taylor gets invited to a lot of weddings and unless you're a true ride or die best friend, she's not gonna go. She's actually a distraction.

Like, yeah, it's cool to have Taylor swap to your wedding. No one's looking at you. I guess. Unless it's Abigail, you know? But if she's like not there, then there's beef. And we've long been wondering. So even though they like the post.

I'm sorry, there is beef. You can like the post of your enemies, but you don't go to their wedding. Maybe Taylor Swift, stop being friends with Hailee Steinfeld. When Hailee Steinfeld released a song, gonna love myself, no I don't need anybody else. Cause Taylor was like, I can't be friends with somebody who wrote the best song of all time. Cause it'll just make me look bad. Because love myself, no I don't need anybody else. Cause Taylor was like, I can't be friends with somebody who wrote the best song of all time

cause it'll just make me look bad. Because love myself. Actually her very brief foray into pop stardom is some of the best music. What was that other one? In capital letters. Yeah. And then there was one more.

When I get chills at night. No, that's love myself. Hold on. Hold on. No, that's Love Myself. That's Love Myself, hold on. No, she really like slayed the pop game for 30 seconds and then decided to do it for you like this. She kind of slays everything that she does. It's true.

She doesn't flop. Oh, Let Me Go with Alesso Flourish. Oh, Starving. Most girls. Most girls. More strong and smart and beautiful. Most girls. Work hard, we go far unstepable. I'm obsessed.

No, when I was- Starving? I didn't know that I was starving till I tasted you. That has over a billion streams. Jackie, both times when I sat down to write my Grammy award winning songs, Toast and 100%, I spoke to the producer and the songwriter and they were like, what's your vibe? Like who do you, they were like Jess Glynn.

And I literally said no, Hailey Steinfeld. And they were like, oh, okay. Both times. Yeah, Most Girls is a Toasty anthem. Most Girls is a Toasty anthem. And Love Myself is really good. Shut up. Love Myself is really good.

But if you do look below the lyrics, like beyond the surface lyrics, it is a song about masturbation. Do you know that? Yes, yes. Okay. Yes. Are you ready for our next story,

which is a perfect segue because it is about Parson Trav. Okay, maybe we think about masturbating. Taylor Swift and Travis, Kelsey's family spent special Thanksgiving together for the first time. For the first time in forever. They'll do music, they'll be live. Taylor and her family, including her mom and dad, hosted Trav and his family members in Nashville,

people reported on Sunday. A source told the outlet that Taylor and Travis had a great Thanksgiving together with their families, calling the Tennessee gathering very festive and special. Okay, now I'm trying to like figure out why Nashville, but I think just logistically, when she has a house in every port, you know, he was going, Trav had to go on, when was his game?

You're asking the wrong person. What day did he play? Whatever, he had to get to Vegas. So I guess maybe her LA home would have been better, What was his game? You're asking the wrong person. What day did he play? Whatever. He had to get to Vegas. So I guess maybe her LA home would have been better, but. No, it's not the vibe. New York makes no sense.

Like it's just too far from Vegas. So Nashville's kind of halfway there. Yeah, and you have to think about vibes. Like you want to set the right tone. This is a big weekend and you don't want, you know, no offense, the LA attitude. No, but in terms of her options, she has an LA, Nashville, New York,

and Rhode Island in America, right? Those four? That we know of. So it was really only gonna be LA or Nashville and I guess, yeah, you have to consider the vibes. No, Thanksgiving in LA, no, it's like a Hallmark movie that's filmed in July, no thanks. And then I think you also have to think about hospitality.

Like everyone's staying at your house. Like which house has more bedrooms? Now I don't know the layout of both houses. I would have thought her LA one was bigger, but in terms of bedrooms, like you have to think about the Kelsey parents and the Swift parents are both divorced. So it's four bedrooms. Just on a pair.

What about Jason, Kylie and the girls? Were they there? They were. So it's Jason and Kylie, a fifth bedroom. And also Nashville's easier for those Kelsey's to get to. They're not going to LA. The girls, six. Taylor and Travis, that's seven.

Is the brother there with his fiance, Austin, for sure. Unless he was with his fiance's family, but that's eight. Let's say conservatively, that's before any friends, assistants, eight bedrooms. So she's got, I think, which of my houses has eight guest bedrooms? I'm sure most of them, but. So definitely Nashville does, because otherwise they would have done Holiday House.

Yeah, which is such a vibe. And I guess when you have a private jet, like it doesn't really matter, but it's a little inconvenient. And it's a little chilly. Like Nashville is probably perfect, it was probably idyllic. I'm sure that like every side dish, every trick,

I'm sure it was literally like a hallmark Thanksgiving. If you looked up a textbook picture of a Thanksgiving dinner, you would have seen this. Now this is really behavior of two people who are betrothed. Like, yeah, you kind of, you get engaged and then you do this. And then the baby comes in January. I think that it's just really serious type of behavior. And of course you can do this with your boyfriend.

You actually don't do this with your boyfriend. I know, especially your boyfriend. Okay, let's say you're just like people who've decided not to get married. So he's your boyfriend of like 15 years. Okay. Your life partner. Your boyfriend of a year and a half, a year and give or take a few months.

No, it's really serious. It's serious behavior. Yeah, they started in July. So a year and what? Four months few months. No, it's really serious. It's serious behavior. Yeah, they started in July. So a year and what? Four months? Half. It's serious. Yeah, it's serious. I think they actually have to be engaged otherwise.

Like if I have a friend who was doing this with her boyfriend, I'd say that's too much. I'd say it's time for him to pop the question. Right, unless he popped the question at Thanksgiving. Right, which people do that. Which people do that. Is there a better place? That's like a very, and honestly when you're someone who has it all like what's he gonna do the top of the Eiffel Tower? Yawn. The more intimate the better. In my home, in my backyard and maybe he prayed that Chris Lane song where he talks about doing that. Yeah. Remember when Chris Lane wrote that song for Lauren Lane like about how

he was proposing to her and then played it in real time? Of course I remember. I think that's what Travis did. I remember everything. What kind of music do you think that Taylor and Travis listen to together? Because I think individually, they probably have a really different taste in music. Lurd listens to everything.

So I think she's fine to listen to whatever he wants to listen to. And I think he likes, they probably listen to like Post Malone is what they can agree on. He's for everyone. She's also very country and I know he likes Morgan Wallen so he likes country too.

I can't see her liking Morgan Wallen. Yeah, but I could also like, he also likes like hip hop. That's why I'm like maybe Post Malone cause he kind of does everything. And he does country. Yeah, that's actually a really good call. She loves him. Mm-hmm.

And that's their like, their safe artist. Yeah, that's cute. Maybe he came to perform at Thanksgiving. Maybe he'll sing her down the aisle. She'll totally sing herself. No, I'm kidding. Oh my God. Anyways, this is a really major update in the love story.

It's also crazy that we know, no? It is crazy that we know. I hope we get some pics. I would just simply plots. I just wanna see like the tablescape even. I think if we ever get pics, like it would be of the tablescape and it would be in three years.

And we'll be like, oh, that was the Thanksgiving we talked about in 2024. I actually think the vibes cultivated, like we're very folklore and evermore. Yeah, Taylor is like, and I mean this in a positive way, like really corny and she loves like a baked treat and she definitely gets into the theme and the spirit. Like I love that about her.

So she definitely like lays the table, very hallmark and maybe they got together and watched the hallmark movie about them that Donna's in. She 100% did and they laid the table with the fancy shit. Lay the table with the fancy shit. Lay the table with the fancy shit. Are you ready for our next story, our fourth story? If it's our fourth story that's brought to you by sex.com, perchance.

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So Jacob Elordi attended the red carpet premiere at the Marrakesh International Film Festival in Morocco on Friday for his new film, No One Knows What That Movie Was because no one can stop talking about his beard. So everyone is saying like, this is the first time that a beard has not enhanced a man's look.

And considering he is like objectively the best looking man of our generation, all it's to say like, it doesn't look good. The thing is it looks bad. Like I don't even think there were mixed reviews because I didn't see anybody saying anything positive. Like it's a bad beard. Now I don't know if he's mixed reviews because I didn't see anybody saying anything positive. Like it's a bad beard.

Now I don't know if he's just a person who doesn't favor beards or this is a particularly bad one. It's a little unkempt, it's a little too big. I happen to have really liked it. I like when very good looking people look a little bit ugly. It makes them relatable to me. And I think it's like humbling and I don't dislike it.

I actually think overall like his Q score will go up from this, but hebling and I don't dislike it. I actually think overall, like his Q score will go up from this, but he does need to get rid of it. But just knowing he's capable of looking ugly, like that's so human, you know? Yeah, I also think it's good for his future as an actor because okay, maybe he's not always gonna play like the teenage hardthrob, maybe he could play the ugly guy.

Yeah, no, he's a chameleon. Yeah, not every person in a movie should look like a movie star. Like, they're supposed to be based on real people. Regulars. So I think this shows range for him. So true. But like, if I'm his lady love, shave it.

Well, if I'm his lady love, I'm just, I'm grateful, and I'm not gonna be complaining. Like, hey, you should shave your beard. No, Olivia is like, shave it. The thing is, is that if you look at Olivia, she has very beautiful skin. And I can't see that rough, coarse beard hair like being gentle on her skin.

And I worry about that. It's an exfoliator. Because her skin is her business, you know? That's how she makes a living. I think it's an exfoliator for her. Maybe that's why her skin is so great. Maybe, maybe. But you know that there are people who experience,

what's that thing called, like beard burn? What is that? Oh, man, you don't know. It happened to one of my best friends in college when she was dating her husband. Dating a bearded man? Well, no. Yeah, I guess if you date a bearded man, yes.

Like, if you kiss them, like some people have really sensitive skin. I'm surprised this never happened to you, because you have such sensitive skin, where you literally break out into a rash and like just from getting kissed. So yes, that happens to me. I get redness, but I wouldn't call it a rash.

It goes away in like 30 minutes. Oh no, this like lasts a day or two. No, I wouldn't say a day or two. Google beard burn. It's on your chin. No, it's just like it looks like blotchy and red. I would get irritated for sure. Yeah, well some people have it really bad.

It's called beard burn. And that's why like their husbands have to, you know, live a beard free life. A beard free life. So maybe we need Olivia to fake a little bit of beard burn and then be like, Jacob, you have to shave, look. Or maybe she's like, wants to keep her man. Maybe not that, it's hard to date the hottest man alive.

It is important that we all encourage our husbands at different points to look ugly because that's my man, right? And who are you looking so good for? No, and it's like nobody's gonna want you. I guess for him it's for his job. I guess it's good that Ben doesn't brush his teeth. Yeah, and I'll tell everyone,

my husband doesn't brush his teeth, don't kiss him. Do not come. He's gross. Do not come. He doesn't brush his teeth. That is funny. Yeah. Okay, are you ready for our fifth and final story? Some actual like heated drama. Not the heated drama. Not the heated drama for the fifth and final,

but like Billboard Magazine is really going through it right now, because they endeavored to do something that nobody fucking asked for. And they're pissing everyone off along the way. They are. So Billboard magazine has been putting together their top pop stars of the 21st century. And they've been teasing every day, you know,

number 10, nine, eight, seven, six. So first they named Justin Bieber number eight, and Hailey Bieber is throwing shit their way. By the way, that wasn't ever confirmed that Hailey Bieber's, I thought that, I think that was fake. Really? The Hailey Bieber shade, because first of all, them naming Justin Bieber number eight

is actually like extremely generous. I feel like that feels right, yeah. And then the comment that she allegedly left on a billboard post was never seen. I don't know that that comment was real. Okay, well the comment said, billboard is a fucking joke as per usual. But that's just- I don't think she wrote that.

That's just an appetizer to the main dish. It's an anecdote. Which is that, it's a story about parsley again, because Taylor Swift was crowned number two pop star of the year, which already has people in a tizzy because they think that she should be number one given all of the-

Well, after they announced number three, everybody realized the only two spots left were Beyonce and Taylor, so they were fighting- Who was number three, everybody realized the only two spots left were Beyonce and Taylor. So they were like fighting. Who was number three? I don't remember. Okay.

It's so of not important. Right, right. Sorry to number three. And also I think Billboard doesn't know the definition of a pop star because there are people who are left off that list and then there are people who are on, there's bands on that list.

Yeah. So I guess a band is a pop star. And then that means like Maroon 5 wasn't on the list and they should have been. Like they guess a band is a pop star. And then that means like where Maroon 5 wasn't on the list and they should have been. Like they don't know what a pop star is. And then like some people on there weren't pop stars. Rihanna was number three. Drake was number four.

I don't think I would consider Drake a pop star. Correct. Pop stars for the girls. I agree completely. But I don't know, was the weekend on there? Yes, he's number 18. No, there's a lot of- He's like a boy pop star to me.

Justin Timberlake is also a boy pop star. Yes, yes. Now my issue is that he's number 14, which doesn't feel right, but he could be here. That's fine. And Justin Bieber too, is a boy pop star. Fine. Yep.

Five Lady Gaga, six Britney Spears, seven Kanye West. I wouldn't consider a pop star. Not a pop star. Eight Justin Bieber, nine Ariana Grande, 10 Adele, 11 Usher. That's generous. That feels right. Really? Yeah, he just operates under the radar. That's the thing.

But like 20 Bruno Mars. Are you guys okay? Oh, that's wrong. He should be top five. He should be top. He could have been that 10. Yeah. 10 spot.

That's wrong. Also, so yes, it started because then Rihanna was three. The two spots, everybody started fighting. Taylor and Beyonce are left for two and one and they announced Taylor as number two. So people are upset about that fact just in general, but then they put together this video package of her highlights.

And in that video, they included footage from Kanye West's music video where he had created a mannequin of a naked Taylor Swift. And this is like the thing, this is her Roman empire. Yeah, from the famous music video. And it's like, it's not even really her, but like, why would they include that? It's a 3D model.

It's not germane, it's offensive. It was offensive then, it's offensive now. It has nothing to do with all of her amazing accolades. Like, it's seriously so offensive. They got so much backlash for including it. They finally like apologized in the middle of the night, but people are not happy about that in particular. And it's kind of like ruined this whole fun

that they were having. It's true, it's true. Now, I really wanna talk about two things. One, can we just quickly discuss like what you think of them giving Beyonce one and Taylor two? Like, I really wanna talk about two things. One, can we just quickly discuss what you think of them giving Beyonce one and Taylor two? I disagree with that, but I do understand that this is subjective and someone could argue both sides. There are things that Beyonce's definitely better at,

and there are things that Taylor is definitely better at. I happen to think the list of things that Taylor is better at is just a little bit longer, which is why she would have been number one. But I'm not mad, Beyonce is one of the greatest. So if she's gonna be one or two, I get it. If I made the list, I would have done the opposite. Yeah, I just feel like you can't call things

until they're past. It's so true. We'll see how history remembers all of this and what turns out to be the biggest things. I can't call it while I'm in it. No, that's a really good point. So, and then I think today they announced that Beyonce is number one.

But that's all sort of been lost in. Yeah, their statement was like it was an oversight. This is what the statement said. They said, we are deeply sorry to Taylor Swift and all of our readers and viewers that in a video celebrating Swift's achievements, we included a clip that falsely depicted her. The publication wrote an apology post shared on X

just after midnight on November 28th. We have removed the clip. Just after midnight. Yeah, they posted it at 1 a.m. Like they thought they could like get away sly with this apology. And honestly, one thing about the Swifties, they're not dropping anything and they shouldn't drop this.

Like a dog with a bone. They said we have removed the clip from our video and sincerely regret the harm we caused with this error. I just like things like this don't happen accidentally or slip through the cracks. Like it's very intentional and it's so disrespectful. It is and I feel like Taylor went through a period in her life and I don't know if she's still like existing

in this space where anytime there was something like within culture that she found offensive, like she would speak on it, like Ginny and Georgia, you know, she called out Netflix for making that joke. And so I think there was a time where she would have spoken on this. I don't think she's really about that life anymore. And also like Billboard is such a strategic part.

You can't like alienate Billboard, right? If you're an artist like her, who cares about all the accolades and the charts, like they are a strategic partner of hers. So I don't know if she would say anything regardless of that, but I do feel like that part of her career where she was like constantly like speaking out is kind of over.

Yeah, I also want to know the criteria for this list. Cause I saw some interesting stats. Cause then the Swiftie started arguing why Taylor should have been number one. Of course. The most interesting thing that I read was that Lover was a five year old album, sold more copies this year than Cowboy Carter album.

And how do we fact check that? I don't know, didn't you tell me that? No, how many copies of Lover sold 2024? In the first half of 2024, it sold 208,000 copies. So I guess let's say 410. Okay. Okay, wait, why do I think that though? Like I really thought you told me that.

I never told you that. Copies of Cowboy Carter sold 2024. By the way, oh, the first album's first sales, first week, I'm sorry, 407,000. So no, that's not true. Oh my gosh, okay. Well then take back what I said, stricken from the record. No, and by the way, I saw people arguing both sides of why it should be Taylor, why it should be,

and there are really compelling arguments. Like, you know, the fact that Taylor is the sole songwriter of most of her music and she plays multiple instruments is like a huge factor that compared to Beyonce is not. Also, I mean, if you compare, I think like a big thing is like being a pop star is like the dancing and that's like Beyonce is like, you know, amazing and Taylor, you know, she's gotten better

but it's not like her thing. Yeah. Also like the number of number one hits according to Billboard, how many times you've been number one on the charts with Taylor was so much more. So there are compelling arguments on both sides and that's why there's really no wrong answer. It's not wrong to say Beyonce's number one.

I just would have made Taylor number one. Yeah, no, it's not wrong to say. And I actually think, you know what? These two fandoms, I just, I don't want any part in this. If it was my list, like it would have been Kelly Clarkson, number one, Little Mix, number two. Period. And by the way, it's important to note

that Kelly Clarkson was noticeably absent from this list in general. That's why this list is disgusting, okay? And that's why this list is disgusting. It's actually so true. So why aren't, like why aren't us caring? We're giving this list credence that it doesn't- This is like a not,

cause either you're gonna piss off the Swifties, piss off the Beehive, or piss off Billboard. Like, I'm not a part of this that it doesn't. Like a not, cause either you're gonna piss off the Swifties, piss off the Beehive or piss off Billboard. Like I'm not part of this. What do the Clarkson fans call themselves? The Clarksons? What do we call ourselves? Yeah. I don't know, you know,

and you know I'm the biggest fan of people, but I've never really engaged in like stand-up. What's the name of Kelly Clarkson fans club? Kelly-anators? Clarksonators. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

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I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I'm not a good one, sorry. It's okay when you have like raw talent like that. You don't need frivolous things like that. Yeah, and also we're like grown women, us Kelly fans. It's true, like your mothers, your lawyers, your business owners, like you're not arianators. Arianators, oh my God, my entire timeline

on every platform now is behind the scenes wicked content. And I'm like, I think I might be an aeronator. Like I just have. I actually think I might download threads because I'm getting all these like threads. Really compelling, self provoking. Yeah. Teased in my Instagram where they just cut me off

right before the whole. Where you would be interested. They're crushed. I'm so close. Even one person I looked up their handle on X cause I wanted to see. And I couldn't find it. They're about to get me.

We don't talk about threads, like that failure. That was really crazy. And I didn't download threads that day that one billion people did. But like now, these wicked movie reviews that they're leaving me in the lurch might get me. No, but if you're writing shit on threads and not other places, like do you not want people to see it?

I don't know. I don't know what's going on, but like threads is trying something. I just want you guys, I'm warning you. They're coming. They want you to engage. And you're getting dangerously close. I'm getting dangerously close to the edge, I am.

So I have to say, this studio has been a dream. Let's just pray that my, what do you keep looking up at? Jack Self. There's a huge TV right here. Oh, there's like a monitor? Yeah, huge. Like I'm literally, I'm a movie star. I, it looks like a movie.

Okay, Jacob Elordi. Yeah, right here. Are you at the Marrakesh Film Festival? Yeah, I actually look like I'm at the Marrakesh Film Festival. Will you be in the studio tomorrow? No. Oh.

No, we'll discuss. Oh, am I supposed to know something about tomorrow's show? Yeah. Are you not on? Yeah, that was the plan. Were you gonna tell me that? It's fine, I'll get Ben to sub for you, but I'm gonna tell him you're taking the day off.

Remember I kept saying December 4th, December 4th? No. You don't remember? Search December 4 in your texts. No, what I'm gonna do is text Ben. He's so dramatic. Like when I make any sort of change to his schedule. Watch this.

Honestly, the studio is pretty close to the airport. Can you host the toast with me tomorrow, question mark? By the way, we can record early if you wanna come back to the studio. You just let me know. It's pretty close to the airport. Just makes you think. And then Zach has to get the boys ready

for the play, not you. Yeah, let me know what Ben says, but like we can make, it's always a make it work moment. No, Ben will be difficult about it, but then all he wants to do is come on and promote good guys and spritz, so he'll be like, I'll make it work. Yeah, no, he loves it, and everyone loves him,

so it's like as much as I'm gonna miss you guys, and of course I'd love to see Mike Hurtin again, it's all to the good. I would love to see your Hurtin again too, so we'll discuss offline. That's our show, you guys, thank you so much for listening to the Toast on Monday love to see you hurting again too. So we'll discuss offline. That's our show you guys. Thank you so much for listening to the Toast in the Morning show where we deliver the fastest stories you need to know

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That's wicked-coded. Adel, d'assi. Love ya. Bye.