The Toast - Kim Jong Barbie: Thursday, January 25th, 2024

Episode Date: January 25, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good morning, Millennials. Welcome back to The Toast and happy Thursday. That feels like a Friday because we're fucking celebrating, bitch. We're motherfucking celebrating ass white bitch ass motherfucking asshole. Excuse me. This is a nice family friendly podcast and people listen in the car with their kids and I'm not going to tolerate that type of language so early on in the show when the kids are still awake.
Starting point is 00:00:23 I'm not going to do it. Oh my God, okay mom. Yeah, teacher, class is in session. Ooh, ooh, order in the court. Order in the court, if you're watching on YouTube, it's a feast for the eyes today because Turdi and I are wearing new merch that drops tomorrow morning
Starting point is 00:00:39 and not only are we wearing this gorgeous new merch, but we're kind of twinning with our updos and just like slaying the house down boots the cozy vibes the cozy vibes and this is our new collection that drops tomorrow so tomorrow morning at 10 a.m eastern time at shop toast merch.com you can get this grout fit sporty set that we're sporting and we also the super bowl we also have a navy crew neck sweatpants set that just says the toast on the breast for the more subdued girlies yeah so the two sets are kind of like inverted versions of one another though not identical but the other set is just navy and it's it's a little more pared down while this is very toasty. Can I ask you a question?
Starting point is 00:01:26 Do you think two people on the planet love anything more than we love the time 10 a.m.? Like one thing about us, like if we're going to do something, it's at 10 a.m. No, 10 a.m. is the right time. It's the, it's a good time. Even with the kids, like 10 a.m. is the the right like we left for Disney. Let's get out the door at 10 a.m. Like it's a very realistic time. It's not too early. It's not too late. All you need is a light jacket. Right. It's like the first double digit hour of the day. So it's like early but like a little late. Yeah it's not like early bird gets the worm. Right right. But it's not
Starting point is 00:02:00 noon. I've been doing early bird gets the worm. I've been waking up every day at like 6.30, 7, which is earlier than I wake up. I think it's because I was on like a prednisone pack. And, you know, they make you a little like. It's a steroid. Fucking nuts. You're roided up. Yeah, I actually took my. Oh, so that's why you've been a little nutty, professor.
Starting point is 00:02:18 Okay. You said it was Tylenol you were taking. Well, I started. But the swirly was on roids. But Jackie, the day that everyone thought I was on drugs and like high, I actually hadn't started the roids yet. Oh, wow. I feel like on this show, like when you are on any sort of medication.
Starting point is 00:02:37 Substance. You have to let everyone know because they're so attuned to our personalities that when there's even the slightest change, like you have to be transparent about what you're taking unlike Tristan Thompson yes which we will talk about today I wasn't planning on it but oh you know what I'm so glad because I don't give a shit but now that we've brought it up let's just deliver the news I don't know I'm sure everyone already saw he's been suspended because they drug test you in the NBA for like roids, real roids. Yeah. And he tested negative.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Oh, no, excuse me. It was a negative. It was Aladin. It was Aladin. He tested positive, which was very negative for him. Is that from something? I just made it up. It's hysterical.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Oh, my God. It's hysterical stuff. It might even be like better than it's Aladin. Okay. What is better than someone asking like, what's that from to something you just, that's like someone saying, did you get your glam done and you did it yourself?
Starting point is 00:03:30 So true. Also, even though COVID was like a really dark time in like our history, one of the bright spots was taking a COVID test and telling people you're COVID. And telling people you're COVID Al And telling people you're COVID Aladdin. Yeah. Like we'd be like, I think I have it.
Starting point is 00:03:48 I think I have it. And then we'd send the thing and the people would be like, would you, would you have it? It's Aladdin. And they didn't know if you were positive or negative. If you guys don't know that reference from The Dictator starring Sacha Baron Cohen, like I do feel sorry for you. I want to say, I feel like people actually don't know that reference. That's like not one of his most quoted or popular movies.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Obviously, everybody knows Borat. But The Dictator, Aladdin motherfucker, is so grossly and criminally underrated. Criminally. Like, the toast movie of the week, you guys have to watch The Dictator at some point this week. It's probably not better than Borat because Borat was a cultural shift, but it's his number two movie. Wait, I feel like we're confusing movies what is the Seth Rogen movie that like oh that supreme leader um I think that one no that's the interview okay they're both like loosely based off Kim Jong we need to talk about something that I feel like gets swept under the rug and we need answers remember when that movie was coming out the
Starting point is 00:04:45 interview and it was like making fun of kim jong-un and so all of these emails started to leak from sony and there was a hack they said it was like north korea retaliating against the coming out of this seth rogan movie yeah was that true was it not it was my understanding that like that was the that was that's like the the line we've been served but like that seems insane do you feel like there's a conspiracy beneath the surface about that leak I kind of do like it really doesn't make sense that it is a little radical it is a little radical leak the emails because he didn't want this unflattering movie to come out about him I know it's not even a movie about him. Like it's a parody movie. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:27 And there's like actual like documentaries about Kim Jong-un that are like based on real stuff that happened that like are probably worse. Right. And this like was kind of like funny. And I think he came off He Listens to Firework by Katy Perry. Like you got to see a different side of Kim. Actually, I just saw a video of Kim. There was like a big affair
Starting point is 00:05:45 in North Korea they um threw a volleyball game in his honor I guess he like loves volleyball do you know what I'm talking about did you see this? No but it's reminding me of one of my favorite memes that I'm gonna go find but continue. Okay so he showed up they threw this like recreational volleyball game for him where like all these volleyball players came and like there was cheerleaders and Kim Jong sat and just like had the best time watching these men play volleyball. came and like there was cheerleaders and Kim Jong sat and just like had the best time watching these men play volleyball. That's classic Kim. Classic Kim.
Starting point is 00:06:07 There is a meme that I send to Ben every time I see it and I am going to take the time to find it if you don't mind. Yeah, no, I don't mind. And I do feel like now would be a good time to mention like Kim Jong-un ill and the dictators of North Korea like is one of my favorite topics to talk about. It's it is low key one of the craziest, like, the world we currently live in. Like, that there's, like, this kind of, like, toxic remote dictatorship. And, like, we don't even know what goes on there.
Starting point is 00:06:36 They don't have cell phones. They're completely cut off. It really is the craziest thing. And there's that girl. You know the girl I'm talking about. Crystal Park she's she escaped yeah she like escaped North Korea and like that's her thing now she's like a media personality I saw some I always see clips of her on Joe Rogan like talking about it it sounds like
Starting point is 00:06:55 not fun she has a book and Rebecca's read and she's always recommending it to us to read on the redheads maybe we should turny, and know what we're talking about. I feel as though my Roman Empire is the fact that North Korea exists. Like, it's so crazy. And it's just so opposite from our way of life, you know? Freedom, I won't let you die. Freedom, I will not give you up. You know, those liberties we take for granted. It's so true. Ah, makes you think. You're having a hard time finding this meme. According to his biography,
Starting point is 00:07:34 Kim Jong-il first picked up a golf club in 1994 at North Korea's only golf course and shot a 38 under par round that included no fewer than 11 holes in one. That's really funny. Satisfied with his performance, he reportedly immediately declared his retirement from the one. That's really funny. Satisfied with his performance, he reportedly immediately declared his retirement from the sport. That is so funny.
Starting point is 00:07:50 And that's literally Ben if he was a dictator. Like literally mine would be starting propaganda that he hit 11 holes in one in one game. Yeah. But like the fact that
Starting point is 00:07:59 all of the subjects like have to think Kim Jong is like the most amazing thing ever, even though he's like literally never done or accomplish anything. And he's like kind of ugly very ugly um if people just like adored me like it would be mandatory every Friday night like there's an attorney concert at MSG and you better like light your fucking phones up and get lit yeah it's also crazy how the
Starting point is 00:08:18 transition from ill to own Kim Jong's like so smooth Jackie I'm so glad you brought that up because I actually remember I'm literally gonna start crying it's so funny. I like remember being like 12 when Kim Jong-il died and like I knew his name in my bones. Kim Jong-il. Kim Jong-il. And I said there's no way I'm gonna be able to start saying Kim Jong-il. It's just it's beyond my capability. Like it's a rebranding that's gonna take a while to get get used to so seamless the way I don't even even think about Kim Jong-il anymore it's crazy because for a while the name on everybody's lips was Kim Jong-il and now it's Un exclusively Un exclusively Un you forgot about the Il and I do think that like branding agencies should look to what they've done so how you could change the names culturally so easily.
Starting point is 00:09:07 I completely agree. And it just like it does make me sad. Like obviously on a really serious note, like living in North Korea sounds like really one of the most miserable existences of all time. And even like making it even more sad is I can't listen to the toast. No, that's devastation. That would be like in my in my dictatorship, that would be mandatory. Of course, we'd be playing over all the loudspeakers. Yeah, we would literally be like Stanley Tucci in the Hunger Games.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Caesar Milan. Yeah, yeah. Not Milan. Not Milan. Caesar Milan is a celebrity dog trainer who we had on The Breath once. But back to what I was saying about the interview
Starting point is 00:09:48 and the Sony hacking like were they really like that's insane if true and if not true they used the hacking as like a marketing gimmick
Starting point is 00:09:58 for a movie about a dictator I guess kind of smart but these like crazy emails came out remember like Kevin Hart wouldn't promote his own movie
Starting point is 00:10:04 that is my Roman Empire for real like honestly because when I saw it I guess kind of smart, but these like crazy emails came out. Remember like Kevin Hart wouldn't promote his own movie? That is my Roman Empire. For real. Like honestly, because when I saw it, I was like, damn. And then the more I thought about it, I'm like, no. This is a special breed of businessman and I completely agree. Yeah. Like I don't own this movie.
Starting point is 00:10:18 You do. Yes, I'm being paid to do it and it would behoove me to promote it. But this is a part of the job. No, I remember reading those emails and like my whole perspective on life changed. Like that was just a crazy time. And they said it was all because of a movie. And I just, I'm gonna need more. And then they still release the movie
Starting point is 00:10:36 because of course, like you can't give in to Kim. Right, we don't negotiate with terrorists. But like the movie was like, you could only get it at home. It wasn't in theaters. It was crazy. That was a crazy time we started this conversation ala dean to the interview tristan tristan tristan was positive which was negative news for him oh so i was saying that when we ever take medication we're like athletes oh yeah we have to disclose to know yeah so claudia's on steroids period i'm on steroids and i usually yesterday i took them after the toast because i
Starting point is 00:11:11 don't like the way they make me like my face really hot and then i like speed up for like 20 minutes um so if i get a little nuts i'm not feeling it yet if i get a little nuts it's it's the zone prednisone she's roided up she's juicingicing. I'm roided up. Yeah, don't drug test me. I'll fail. That and the poppy seed bagel I had this week, I'm gonna fail. She's a failure, which is positive news for her. No, it's actually
Starting point is 00:11:36 negative news for me. Aladin still. Yeah. He was kind of onto something. It's confusing, positive, negative. No, it's, the premise of the joke, Al la dean is pure brilliance like oh like i got literally this week i got a strep test like it came back negative i'm like shit but it's positive it really is negative for strep which was positive for me yeah confusing confusing so we've got a great show today we've got new merch launching tomorrow which is so
Starting point is 00:12:02 exciting if you have any questions i'm wearing a size medium. I have, I think, I feel like this particular set should be the standard for sizing. I love the sample that we use. Like this is a size medium. I feel like it fits me perfectly. Yeah. This is a size. It's not tight at all. I'm wearing a size large and I could go for a medium. It's, it's very baggy on me. So I do feel like you should be true to size. And if you're true to your size, it will be a little oversized exactly this is my size it's it's giving me room to breathe I'm not tight anywhere but it doesn't feel so big yeah so I'm wearing medium I think just do your regular size um so that's exciting today's also our last in studio show of the week tomorrow there is an episode but after this episode I'm heading to
Starting point is 00:12:40 the south heading down south to the land of the pans you know and I'm headed to the rodeo which I'm so excited about so hopefully I'll see the the land of the Pans, you know? And I'm headed to the rodeo, which I'm so excited about. So hopefully I'll see the Fort Worth Toasters out and about, you know, hustling. The Stockyards. At the Stockyards. And then I'm racing home Sunday to see the Niners play. And it's just so, it's going to be a great weekend. Even though, like, tomorrow, it's not even Friday, but I'm looking forward to the weekend
Starting point is 00:12:59 because I'm leaning toward it. You're looking ahead. You're an optimist. Yeah, exactly. I have hope. Hatikva. I have hope, exactly. Great. Well, I think we should. Do you have any an optimist. Yeah, exactly. I have hope. Hatikva. I have hope, exactly. Great.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Do you have any plans? Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Do I have plans this weekend? You know, the usual. Fun things, kids, trout, football, barbecue. Trout. Trout skin. Trout skin killer.
Starting point is 00:13:21 We'll be reliving our weekend. Maybe see some friends. It'll just be a nice home weekend after our big extravaganza. You need to decompress. You need this. Yeah. Maybe a little sleeping in if the kids will let. Good luck.
Starting point is 00:13:38 We'll see. You never know. It happens every once in a while. Maybe it could fall on a Sunday. Do you wake up in like a panic? No. Because I'll never forget like the first time I went to visit Olivia when she had moved down um to Florida Shapiro was going on a business trip so I came to stay with her and like the third night I was there we slept together in the same bed because I was like a little freaked out of being in the house alone I think Olivia was too she was new to being a homeowner and I woke up at
Starting point is 00:14:04 like 10 and Kayla must have been like one one and a half and Olivia was still in She was new to being a homeowner. And I woke up at like 10 and Kayla must have been like one, one and a half. And Olivia was still in bed with me and we were freaking, she was like, oh, she woke up in such a tizzy. Kayla was still sleeping. Beautiful. Isn't that crazy? Crazy Kayla. So now without further ado, here are the Fast Five stories that you need to know. And the Fast Five stories that you need to know. And the Fast Five stories that you need to know are brought to you by Current. Old school banking just is not working anymore. They ding you with ridiculous fees, they play games with your money, and they want you to get into debt. So stop banking old and get Current, the future of banking. Current is banking and credit building
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Starting point is 00:17:22 You know, we're putting ourselves first, girlies. Yes, we are all right hit me jacks our first story is the party of the year jeff bezos's 60th birthday party was star studded at his house i missed this whole thing you i missed it too but i'm reading the details and i don't know how, like everyone was there. Everything was there. Was Harry and Meghan there? No.
Starting point is 00:17:49 So it was on Saturday night at their house in Beverly Hills. The guest list was stacked with everyone from Hollywood A-listers to sports legends, business moguls, Jay-Z, Beyonce, Ivanka Trump, Jared Kushner, Ciara, Russell Wilson, Oprah Winfrey, Kim Kardashian, Kris Jenner, Hailey Bieber, Kendall Jenner, then also, so that's like what Lauren brought to the party. Then Bob Iger, Bill Gates, Roger Goodell, Katy Perry and Orlando Bloom were there.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Katy Perry performed, Usher performed, Black Eyed Peas performed. Wait, not Usher performing like when he's really supposed to be in like training he probably he did probably was a rehearsal for sure uh paris hilton nikki hilton were there jewel was there i wonder if kevin costner was her date wait i'm shukath and then honestly the house was like such a good job of like making her and jeff like a hollywood fixture and like hobnobbing with the girlies, the Kardashians. She's done a really good job as like social chair of the Bezos family.
Starting point is 00:18:51 This party is all her. Like the guest list is all her. And I feel like she's brought so much to his life, so much like joy, but also like glitz and glam, which he likes. Like he's a glitzy, he's a glitzy billionaire and he likes to enjoy the perks of his fortune that's what like came through in Elon's book like really the differences between the two because like they had a decent relationship but now I don't think so anymore also Elon wasn't there um but he's always like to him like you know Jeff like go back to your hot tub and he doesn't like how like Jeff uses his blue origin company to take himself to
Starting point is 00:19:26 space like Elon is very much not about that yeah no they definitely are two different types of billionaires and like Elon like looks and acts poor yeah no he sold all of his homes he stays at friends houses he has a small house like near one of the SpaceX launch pads but he doesn't have like a proper home. So I actually saw this thread and it happened to be about Ballerina Farm, but the general thesis applies here. It's like rich people like to cosplay poor and poor people cosplay as rich.
Starting point is 00:19:53 Like it's this weird human thing where everybody's acting like the opposite of what they truly are. But not, you can't generalize and say everyone. Jeff Bezos doesn't like to act poor. No, so Jeff Bezos is me as a rich person. Kim Kardashian doesn't like to act poor no so Jeff Bezos is me Kim Kardashian doesn't like to act poor no Jeff Bezos is exactly what I would do if I was a rich person and actually they just had Justin Sylvester was on the good guys podcast oh my god this clip
Starting point is 00:20:13 cracked me up me too and I had a big conversation legend they had a really big conversation about Lauren Sanchez and honestly Justin was like teaching Josh and Ben like what it's like to be a lady he's the lady sitter and what one of these what it entails to be a lady like Lauren Sanchez and it's a lot of work it's a full-time job yeah she's top of the heap lady she's working overtime and I think all of that is evident in this party like she's given not given him but is responsible for before this, he was just living in like the Pacific Northwest with his kids and working and his mom and his friends. And now he's the toast of the town.
Starting point is 00:20:57 No, totally. She, the life cycle of this relationship and how we got to this point, when we first started talking about them, the whole national Enquirers, like they could not have come further. I couldn't be happier for them. Like I don't particularly like Jeff Bezos. The way Lauren has endeared me to them as a couple and him as a person, like I love, I stand, I ship. I wish these two a lifetime of happiness.
Starting point is 00:21:17 No, I truly love and I ship and I'm so glad that they're enjoying the fruits of their labor. Also at the party, there were like a bunch of different rooms like it started off where you walked in it was like a replica of his first office which was his garage and then later that's obnoxious it was like a journey through so then like later there was like McDonald's there he used to work at McDonald's it was he did yeah it was a celebration of his life 60 years of Jeff that's like low-key really impressive that he used to work at McDonald's. Yeah, he's an impressive guy. He's very smart.
Starting point is 00:21:46 He was valedictorian of his class. I feel like people think like Amazon is an accident. Oh my God, I'm so sorry. I have to tell you about what's going on. What? Does anybody know? I think people are gonna know what I'm talking about, about Pookie Talk.
Starting point is 00:21:59 Okay. There is this couple going viral. Jackie, you would die for them. Die, D-I-E for them. Die for them? For them. Okay. There is this couple going viral. Jackie, you would die for them. Die, D-I-E for them. Die for them? For them. Okay. They're this like Southern couple.
Starting point is 00:22:10 I don't know where they live. Her name is Campbell and his name is Jet. But nobody really knows her name because in every video he calls her Pookie. So everybody's just like Pookie, Pookie, Pookie. And they are so cute and so Southern. And he's definitely like older and a little bit nerdier. And she's like this young hot thing. But he loves her so much.
Starting point is 00:22:24 He's always buying her Birkins and whatever. then of course everybody had to go do like a deep dive and of course normally it comes out like oh they you know are related because they're from the south like there was gonna be something dark you know all they found was that Jet so impressive like valedictorian of his undergraduate college went to and like because everybody wonders how they're so wealthy he's so smart went to Wharton and got his what do you get at Wharton uh business master's and law degree at the same time he it's like you just have to see this couple they're so southern they really remind me of a couple on southern charm I could see them like being cast for real and everyone's they're like blowing up right now and everyone's talking about them right now and you would love them she
Starting point is 00:23:11 dresses so cute and she just like literally makes these videos to like talk about her outfit and her husband just talks the whole time about how he thinks she's so beautiful that's so nice send me her IG I will no IG I wouldn't even know how to find that like it should be pretty easy and if she dresses cute outfits then she has Instagram if that's her thing yeah yeah it's just hard because like I really if you ask me her name it takes like 55 minutes to remember that her name is not Pookie okay I'm here I'm here she is okay I feel like she's a toaster yeah I think she is oh my god you would love okay I'm sending to you I'm saying you're gonna you should follow her also Oh, here she is. Okay. I feel like she's a toaster. Yeah, I think she is. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:23:46 You would love. Okay, I'm sending to you. You should follow her. Also, you guys, did you notice? If you're watching on YouTube, I set up my new phone. Oh, wait. We have to talk about that. We have to talk about my new phone because I just decided yesterday.
Starting point is 00:24:00 And I do want to thank Claudia even though her advice was wrong. And it turns out that you were the grandmother. I know. You're living in the Stone Age. I'm living in the future with my e-sims you guys i just found out yesterday we're not using sim cards anymore question mark and like some of us never used sim cards to begin with we were always e-simming okay well that was like grandma of you back in the day but i was the grandma yesterday i own it i own it even back in the day it was ahead of my time that i've never had to undo a sim card and i just transferred everything digitally so how did you transfer yesterday I took out my sim card of
Starting point is 00:24:28 my one phone only to find out that my new phone actually doesn't even have a slot for a sim card so I called Verizon and I said um transfer my new phone and they like hooked it up in a minute or two they hung up on me which was beautiful. My phone wasn't working anymore and turn on my new phone and it was working. Shout out to Verizon. Even though my eSIM should have worked, like that was wrong of you. Yeah. You did make it not that bad. But they rectified. They rectified. So I've spent the day like logging into all of my apps and just like enjoying my, my new phone. It's always exciting to get a new phone. It's always exciting to get a new phone it's always exciting to get a new phone you're kind of inspiring me even though there's nothing wrong with my phone but I do feel
Starting point is 00:25:09 like the kind of excitement was tampered because it's been over the course of three weeks trying to set up this new phone like I don't of course I feel like whenever I get a new phone I'm like clickety clickety clack hello yeah yeah a business I'm on the phone with my seven attorneys doing seven deals. I couldn't take a call on my old phone, but on my new phone. Yeah. That Instagram comment from Kourtney Kardashian was probably one of the loseriest things anybody's ever written on the internet.
Starting point is 00:25:37 And that is saying a lot. Yeah. When someone like accused her in the comment section of like not being a hustler, like her sisters back when Kourtney was like in her flop era and she like didn't give a fuck about anything. Like she released her app like six months after her sisters did. Somebody like left a comment like unemployed, girly. And she was like, sorry, can't respond to this comment.
Starting point is 00:25:53 On the phone with my attorneys negotiating seven business deals. And we're like, sure. Yeah, thou doth protest too much. Literally. Which is why you don't respond. Even though, even if she probably was, I'm sure she had seven at least brand deals in the works with her attorney.
Starting point is 00:26:10 Like you just don't respond and give air to these things. It's so true. It's so true. Especially when like, you know the truth. You know who you are. Yeah. But by the way, I was actually thinking about this yesterday.
Starting point is 00:26:22 Whatever the opposite of flop era is, Kourtney is like experiencing that. Obviously personally with her like just over joyous life, you know, kids, pregnancy, whatever. But let me tell you, I was scrolling TikTok yesterday, Jackie, every video, like all these lifestyle influencers and they weren't ads. Lemmy this, Lemmy that, Lemmy, Lemmy, Lemmy.
Starting point is 00:26:39 I probably saw like 15 videos yesterday. Lemmy and they just launched in Target. I feel like Lemmy's on its way to becoming like enormous. I really feel that way. Good. I hope so. Me too. I feel like now she's really on the same level as the sisters in terms of businesses.
Starting point is 00:26:54 Yeah. And also personal life. It just goes to show that life is very fluid. Yeah. You think things are one way and swerve. She's in love, love of her life, married. Who would have thought you know what actually reminds me of this clip I just saw I forget who it was but this guest who was on the
Starting point is 00:27:10 Skinny Confidential podcast and he was like doing parenting stuff he was basically like the first 10 years of your kid's life is really like the only time in their life where you are everything to them like after they turn 10 like they have friends and that you're they have other people in their life who are like the most important to them in that moment. Then of course they get married and have their own kids and boyfriends, girlfriends, best friends. And those first 10 years of your kid's life are also like the 10 years that you're like still hustling and like still trying to do your own thing. And it's like so sad that like you, like that's how life works where you can't really devote 100% of your time of those first 10 years to your kids because you have things going on too. You need to
Starting point is 00:27:44 make a living. You need to do this. And it's kind of like Courtney did the well actually she had kids before when she was young too maybe not but I felt like maybe that clip was relevant maybe it's not no I think it is relevant I think what you said that she was in her flop era with the apps like those were yes those were the first 10 years of her kids life so yeah she didn't give a shit about the apps that went nowhere and instead she was focused on parenting. Like in hindsight, she's winning. Thank you, yes, my point was correct. Yes, she did like exactly what that clip said. Yeah, and the thing is you get those 10 solid years
Starting point is 00:28:13 where you are everything and like be there as much as you can. It's, I mean, most of us are working, but as much as you can like be there. No, and so for someone like Courtney, who obviously like working is a choice not a requirement honestly she kind of killed it yeah she kind of killed it like her kids are grown now she was such like a hardcore maybe even like a little nuts mom you
Starting point is 00:28:39 know like so involved and now her kids are grown and she's like having success and she's fell in love again like I don't know it's like kind of everything yeah no it's kind of it's a fairy tale it's a fairy tale yeah are you ready for our next story what number is it two oh yeah Stassi explains why she will not be on the Vanderpump Rules spinoff show called The Valley so we didn't even discuss this but a new show is coming to Bravo called The Valley. And it is about like Valley suburban life starring Jackson Brittany and a few new faces and also Kristen Doty.
Starting point is 00:29:14 So I think people always expected a show like this would come from the cast members that had settled down in the Valley. And they expected that Stassi would be on it, but she is explaining why she's not on it. And she said, it's not Bravo's fault that she's's not on it once this idea was brought up and they were like okay we're going to film a sizzle with all the people that would be on it every fiber of my being voted no she said um when Jeff Lewis asked her she was on Jeff Lewis's show she said asked
Starting point is 00:29:41 why she felt so strongly about not appearing on Bravo again she said there were a lot of different reasons first of all it wouldn't be a reflection of what my reality is because it's just not my group of friends and she said I'm friendly with some of them I'm acquainted with some of them and some of the new ones too I that I think are lovely but it's not my crew then Jeff Lewis said that she might become closer to them if she filmed with them and she argued that she doesn't want to have to go and do things that she normally wouldn't do. She said, I don't want to disrupt the life that I have right now because I really like my life right now.
Starting point is 00:30:13 Yeah, I never really thought. There have been rumors about this show, and everybody somehow knew it was going to be called Valley Village. Rumors about Jax, Brittany, and Kristen making a return in some way of a spinoff. I don't think anybody really, I wasn't thinking Stassi was going to be a part of it, mostly because she doesn't live in the Valley. Oh, not even mostly because she doesn't live in the Valley,
Starting point is 00:30:34 but I feel like reality TV is such a hard thing to extricate yourself from because it's just like this B cycle. And it's a cycle and you need it and you depend on it. And then when you're thrust out from it, it might take you a while, but once you get on your feet, I can't imagine the process of going back into it especially once you've like seen how toxic it could be like what yeah the dark side and I just feel like now that she's out she's not going back in and she's out and she's on her feet and she's doing well and she has so many things going for her she does not need reality tv at all like don't do it. And it's
Starting point is 00:31:05 almost better that she was thrust out because I think making the decision to leave a show that's successful but also toxic is probably really hard because you're making a lot of money. And so obviously at the time when she was fired it was really not ideal and there was like a lot of you know scandals going on at the time. But I think probably now in hindsight she really got into a groove where her podcast is really successful. She's a really successful patron. She's like a really successful influencer. She's a very devoted mom and I think when you're a mom and I'm sure you know this better than me it's like like good is good why ruin a good thing you know like I she makes a very good living I'm sure she gets to be home with her
Starting point is 00:31:36 kids yeah why throw yourself back into that sort of toxicity yeah she's her own boss and also making the decision to go back to reality tv is like a different sort of decision when you have kids because when it's just you and you know the beast and she's like she's a pro she she can handle it though i could see stassi going back to reality tv like i don't think she's necessarily done yet but she's coming at it now from like a position of privilege where she knows what she's bringing she doesn't have to be like on an ensemble show she doesn't have to eat she doesn't have to just be on any show that wants her like I agree if the right situation came to her she might do it she's not like against reality for tv forever but she doesn't need it she's not like been waiting to get back on tv she if the right opportunity presents itself
Starting point is 00:32:18 she would consider it I'm sure she considered this heavily and then voted no. I think also a lot of it has to do with money. And so when you have other ventures, like she wrote another book, it was another New York Times bestseller. She did a big podcast tour. When you're off reality and you have a hard time monetizing whatever it is that you're doing, whether it's a podcast, it's very hard to get people to listen to you. Like it's not as easy as everybody thinks. And there are a lot of people, former Vanderpump Girls or just former reality TV show people in general who don't make the same amount of money afterwards. Sometimes very rarely you end up making more Hannah burner.
Starting point is 00:32:52 I feel like she's the best example. Um, but she's the exception, not the rule. Yeah. So more often than not, whenever anybody gets an opportunity to go back, they're going to do it.
Starting point is 00:32:59 And that's why these shows like traders or they're so popular because there's really not a huge career after reality TV for everyone. Some people. Not for everyone. Yeah. Right. Agreed. Also, reality TV brings so many eyeballs and so many positive things, but it also opens
Starting point is 00:33:15 you up again. Yep. For scandal. Yep. And once you've been through it, like you don't. You want to avoid. Electively choose. Oh, let me try that again.
Starting point is 00:33:26 Yeah. No, I was not shocked she was not on this show. I was not expecting to see her. And I agree it was probably the right decision for her. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Are you ready, kids? Aye, aye, turdy.
Starting point is 00:33:39 I can't hear you. Our next story. White Lotus star Tom Hollander says he accidentally received Tom Holland's seven figures of Avengers bonus check. So Tom Hollander, who is not Tom Holland, said he accidentally received Tom Holland's bonus check for an Avengers film. He revealed on Late Night with Seth Meyers that he often gets mistaken for Tom Holland in non-visual context because the White Lotus star is 56 and Tom Holland is 27, including in the accounts department of his agency, which also briefly represented Tom Holland. He said, I went to see my friend who was doing theater in England. I sat smugly in the audience just having done a BBC show for $30,000.
Starting point is 00:34:22 just having done a BBC show for $30,000. He said he checked his email during the interval, and that's when he saw a message from the agency saying that they were sending his first box office bonus for The Avengers. The actor said he thought to himself, I don't think I'm in The Avengers, but then he proceeded to open the email. It was an astonishing amount of money.
Starting point is 00:34:38 It was not his salary. It was his first box office bonus. Not the whole box office bonus, the first one. And it was more money than I'd ever seen. It was a seven-figure sum. So seven figures could be anywhere from one to nine million? Yeah. Nine million, 900,000, 99.
Starting point is 00:34:58 Yeah. He said that Tom Holland was only 20 or something in his age, so his feeling of smugness in the show that he was at during the first half disappeared very quickly. He said, but that's showbiz. It's up. It's down. It's hero. It's zero.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Well, I just want to say that's really so crazy. First of all, I didn't Tom Hollander. If you don't know him, because I didn't know him either. He plays the like the gay in charge who's trying to kill. What's her name? Spoiler alert, Jennifer Coolidge. Jennifer Coolidge. These gays, they're trying to kill me.
Starting point is 00:35:31 He's like the one in charge. And when I was reading this headline, I was so confused because when I saw Tom Hollander, I just assumed it was Zendaya's boyfriend. I did not know that was his name. So I understand how this mix-up could be possible, but low-key, this is unacceptable. What you get paid is so personal like and not only that this guy then going on Seth Meyers like telling the story like
Starting point is 00:35:52 I wonder if he had Tom Holland's approval I'm sure he didn't um this is like low-key just nuts and a huge invasion of Tom Holland's privacy yeah but Tom Holland is in the Avengers. He's Spider-Man. And yeah, I assume he makes millions of dollars. So he's not in Congress. Seven figures. I thought it would be more. It was just the first bonus. And it wasn't his salary.
Starting point is 00:36:15 Right, right. You get paid to do a movie. And then after you have a back end. That's actually really crazy. Like you just open your email. Couple mil today. That's insane. And he's so low key.
Starting point is 00:36:27 Tom Holland. Yeah. He like doesn't really do press or interviews. And he. He's not really a celebrity. Like I don't watch his movies. Therefore I do not know him aside from Zendaya's boyfriend. I know.
Starting point is 00:36:35 And I don't even think he has an Instagram. Actually he might. But it's like promotional. You know. It's like for work. Yeah. Because he's a working actor. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:42 Do you think he gets paid like Kevin Hart to promote on his Instagram? Oh he does. I'm so Yeah. He's a working actor. Yeah. Do you think he gets paid like Kevin Hart to promote on his Instagram? Oh, he does. I'm so sorry. He has 66 million followers. What does he post? Like very artsy work stuff. Critics Choice. Oh.
Starting point is 00:36:57 The Brothers Trust. It's all like high quality content. It's promotional and a little artistic. Oh, and of course, philanthropic. He's at a puppy facility here. Oh, that's sweet. It's a pretty good Instagram. I'm not going to lie. It's not bad. It's got a mix of everything. I feel like it's run by like an agency. Like this is classic serious actor Instagram with also commercial success. Yeah. Yeah. He's also like one of those actors who's not afraid to look ugly. Like in half those pictures, he looked ugly when I
Starting point is 00:37:23 know he's like a handsome man. You know, he posted a picture of Zendaya I always thought they were super private like that they've never even acknowledged that they're dating but he posted a picture of just her uh congratulating her for her award at CFDA fashion so they have been together for years yeah and I think only in the last two maybe one year they've been like more public about but they still are not even like very, they don't walk red carpets really together. I guess like this probably made a lot of 11 million likes. I'm sure people were freaking that he posted this when he posted it.
Starting point is 00:37:52 But because like, again, I don't know Tom Holland. Like I didn't pay attention. Yeah. This is just one of those things where Jackie and I being really removed from the universe of Marvel and DC comics. Like this is just not our sort of celebrity.
Starting point is 00:38:07 You want to know why, Turdy? Because we're too girly. We are so feminine. We're so feminine we don't know who these superheroes are. But we're such a unique breed of females. Let me tell you why. Because we don't know anything about Marvel or DC. But we also didn't like cry over the Barbie movie. So does that make us where does that leave us you know what we are
Starting point is 00:38:28 toasters and I just want to say I know this is going to be a really polarizing thing to say and I have to stop talking about the Barbie movie because I keep complaining about like people being mad at what I'm saying I keep bringing it up but Hillary Clinton released a statement about Greta Gerwig and Margot Robbie not being nominated for Oscars and I feel as though officially as a nation we have lost the plot and I think the Barbie rhetoric and polarization of Barbie has officially as of as of yesterday as of the minute Hillary Clinton sent that tweet with that statement and she made a graphic we took it too far we girl bossed too close to the sun for real no one's gonna take us seriously
Starting point is 00:39:06 as a gender now seriously thanks hillary no the cringe was off the charts cringe it was far too much yeah and i posted like something about barbie movie on my close friends and like not like every influencer being like wait no me too like what is with people in the barbie movie like i didn't think it was so great it's like we're literally living under communist rule where we can't say that we don't like the barbie kim jung barbie kim jung barbie jung un barbie jung il un you think un is unier than il unagi what's that from friends classic you could just say pure nonsense and then just tell me it's from Friends and I'd be like, oh yeah, classic. Yeah, Jackie, Gleba.
Starting point is 00:39:49 Friends. Yeah, but that's actually from Friends. I didn't just make it up. It's Ross and Rachel's daughter's first word. Gleba. And they're like, that's not a word. And then he looks it up and it's like a particular type of molecule. And Ross is really into science.
Starting point is 00:40:04 She's a scientist. The hate I have in my heart for what you're describing right now um but that is funny he's a scientist but up until that that was not funny it was somebody but though I do usually like friend through your summarizations you didn't let by the way yesterday I was wanting to cite a friend's reference and you totally cut me off and I never got back to it. No, leave it there. Leave it in the dust. Let's get into our fourth story. No, let's not, bitch.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Let's not, bitch. Is this nice? Now you're back to cursing. I think the kids are asleep. You can curse again. Shit, mother, no, not in front of the ad. The rest of today's episode
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Starting point is 00:42:11 to get 20% off select plans today. Thank you, La. You're welcome. Our next story. That's beautiful. Maybe you should perform at Coachella because they're seeing the slowest ticket sales in a decade. So Coachella lineup was announced last week.
Starting point is 00:42:31 In past years, the tickets have sold out in a matter of minutes. It is now five days later and tickets are still on sale. It turns out people aren't all that interested in Coachella this year. This year marks the slowest ticket sales in a decade. This is according to SF Gate, which cites some troubling stats for Golden Voice and Co. Long story short, passes for this year's Coachella just aren't selling like they used to. They're very much still up for grabs five days after hitting the market, whereas in the past it would sell out in minutes. Interesting,
Starting point is 00:43:01 this site lets people purchase up to eight tickets this year compared to only two in previous years. So it looks as though festival organizers are practically begging people to splash some cash on them. At least that's how it feels anyway, according to TMZ. Though they've never had this issue before, fans famously waited hours in virtual queues to get their hands on covetous wristbands in years gone by. This is strange because Coachella tickets
Starting point is 00:43:24 are usually a hot commodity selling out in minutes so so I think it's layered what's the reason for the season as a reminder the headliners are Lana Del Rey, Tyler the Creator, Doja Cat and No Doubt which I think is a good lineup I don't think it's a good lineup it's a good lineup however Coachella got themselves into this pattern where the last like five years, there has been like a major, major star. Like we've had Lady Gaga. We've had Beyonce.
Starting point is 00:43:52 We've had Justin Bieber. We've had Billie Eilish. We've had The Weeknd. We've had Harry Styles. Like they have made it into a Super Bowl of sorts and they don't have that type of performer this year. You don't think Lana Del Rey is that performer? No.
Starting point is 00:44:04 With a cult following who would follow around the world for her? It's a cult following. It's very niche. It's not on the radio. You know, it's not commercial. Also, but I do want to say, I still think the lineup's pretty good. I think another huge factor as to why people aren't buying tickets that I don't think anybody's talking about is like, we're in an economic crisis. These tickets's, these tickets are really expensive and the whole journey is expensive. It's not only the tickets, it's the renting of the house. It's the outfits.
Starting point is 00:44:30 Coachella is this like a fair. It's not just a music festival where you wear a pair of denim shorts and no makeup and you just like sweat and cry. It's not Woodstock. It's an event. It requires, if you're going to go and do it up, it requires a lot of money outside of the actual ticket,
Starting point is 00:44:42 airfare, hotel, lodging, things like that. And it's thousands of dollars and not everyone can do that right now. So I think it's a combination. I would love to know what was Coachella going on in like 2008? What were ticket sales like then, you know? Yeah, it's, I think it was going on. It was going on in 2008 because it's been around for a while, but it didn't become like this pop culture sort of thing it was really an indie music festival for a long time um and not what it is right now so turkeys blaming the economy and i do think that is a good i think it's a factor it's not everything it's definitely a
Starting point is 00:45:14 factor but i also think that maybe coachella you know all good things must come to an end and maybe this new younger generation like isn't as into festivals as the millennials are maybe they just want to see like their one performer I don't know I'm just guessing but seriously like all good things must come to an end and maybe this is like the slowing down of Coachella because the people who can go are not into it. I didn't even think that like, that's a good take. It didn't cross my mind that like Coachella is over party. It's like, it's not cool anymore.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Like it's on its way out. Yeah. And I do think it's very much like a millennial thing. And like the millennials are having kids and doing different things or maybe just like, don't want to go see Doja Cat
Starting point is 00:46:03 because she's for Gen Z. But the Gen Zers don't want to go to Coachja Cat because she's for Gen Z but the Gen Zers don't want to go to Coachella because it's like a millennial relic honestly you're making fire fucking points thank you love look that thing you just said that like the lineup is now geared towards Gen Z Gen Z doesn't want to be associated with Coachella because and also you have to be 21 to go to Coachella actually you might have to be 18. But still. Yeah, I know what you're saying. That's a fire point.
Starting point is 00:46:27 Fire. Yeah, so I feel like there's just a little bit of a gap. Yeah. And I don't. And like, lol at everybody who thought it was going to be Taylor. I mean, if it was Taylor, we wouldn't be having this conversation. Of course, but that's the thing. If your ticket sales are predicated on how big of a star you can get, that's like a hamster wheel.
Starting point is 00:46:51 Yeah. You're never going to be able to keep up with that. No, and it definitely gets away from the original mission of Coachella where people were going, regardless of the headliners, they were trusting that the music would be good because it was curated by indie music experts. And now it's totally dependent on the headliner. It's Jingle Ball now.
Starting point is 00:47:08 It's Jingle Ball. And when we went like for the first time a while ago. It was still very much like indie vibes. But Lady Gaga was the headliner. And it was like kind of crazy. Because everything else was like Tame Impala. The you know Menendez Brothers. No.
Starting point is 00:47:21 Martinez. Not the Menendez Brothers. I hope. The Martinez Brothers. It the Menendez brothers. I hope. The Martinez brothers. It was very people you've never heard of. And Lady Gaga was like kind of crazy. And that's why we went. We were like, all right, we'll go to see a Lady Gaga concert.
Starting point is 00:47:34 And they just really leaned into that, which is fine. It's very much giving jingle ball these days. Yeah, but then it's also going to give willy nilly. Yeah, it's giving like what is Coachella's aesthetic now? Coachella's having an identity crisis. Yes. But you know who's not? Stagecoach.
Starting point is 00:47:50 Tickets to higher sales than ever. Right. I was wondering how this would compare to Stagecoach because country fans aren't willy nilly, but literally like pop music and what's on the radio. No, no one person through their entire life is really going to be listening to the same radio station their entire life is really going to be listening to the same radio station their entire life with the hits they're gonna eventually like I'm gonna listening to the pulse now I'm not gonna lie oh wow she's pulsing 100 or shall I say why 100 it's not always for me
Starting point is 00:48:16 now because it's TikTok music I now want to go listen to what's considered the classics. Yeah, I feel that. So the pulse it is. Yeah. Light FM? I haven't heard any, KTU, I haven't heard anything about stagecoach tickets, but I have to imagine they're not experiencing this problem. Oh, I thought you sounded like an expert when you said highest ticket sales in history. Oh, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:48:40 But I didn't hear anything. And I, like the last time I was there, it was packed to the brim. Well, it's always going to be packed. And the headliners weren't even amazing. And this year they amazing it's Morgan Wallen this year it's gonna I'm sure I'm sure they're gone you can't even get Morgan Wallen tickets like in your town so yeah we're going to Coachella for him and I'm pretty sure they release the tickets and I'm pretty sure you can't get them stagecoachfestival.com.
Starting point is 00:49:06 Join waitlist. Stagecoach 2024 is sold out. Okay, but how long did it take? Eric Church, Miranda Lambert, Morgan Wallen. Those are the headliners. And then second line, Post Malone, Jelly Roll, Nickelback, Diplo. I'm sure you're 100% right, but Coachella tickets will sell out. It's just been five days and they haven't. How long did Stagecoach tickets take to sell out?
Starting point is 00:49:27 This website says it's the biggest on sale in history. Stagecoach 2024 is officially sold out. You have made history. Thank you for joining us on this journey. Join the wait list to be notified if any passes become available. So you were right, the biggest in history. Yep. And where's the article on that?
Starting point is 00:49:40 Let me look at news. No. But good for them. Okay, are you ready for our next story? It's our fifth and final. Yeah. And I need to shout out to Lauren Elizabeth because she sent it my way
Starting point is 00:49:56 and she said this is giving fifth and final energy. Oh, what'd she say? PETA is calling to replace beloved Groundhog's Day star, Puxatawney Phil, with a gold coin. So PETA wants to cancel. Oh, I'm so sorry. PETA's calling to replace beloved Groundhog's Day star Puxatawney Phil with a gold coin. So PETA wants to cancel. Oh, I'm so sorry. PETA's making news twice.
Starting point is 00:50:10 They're going viral for being really insensitive. Not PETA. The University of Georgia, you know, go dogs. Dogs. They had like a real life mascot dog, this English bulldog, and he passed away. And English bulldogs, like they don't encourage breeding English bulldogs because they have a lot of health issues they literally can't breathe um and so they like posted a graphic that he died and being like maybe this will teach you to stop breeding like it was
Starting point is 00:50:33 like really insensitive yeah like read the room we're grieving no and you're supposed to be like an organization that advocates on behalf of animals like you using the death of an animal to be like snarky people were really upset in defense of the dog. Yeah. No. So they're doing that, but they're also trying to cancel Puxatawney Phil. PETA wants to replace Phil,
Starting point is 00:50:55 the beloved groundhog that is used to forecast weather during the annual Groundhog Day celebration in Pennsylvania. They want to replace him with a gold coin. The group said this week, PETA wrote an open letter on Monday to the Puxatawney Groundhog Club in Pennsylvania in which they encouraged its president to remove the animal from the celebration. Should he formally retire, Phil, and take him to a sanctuary, then PETA would present the group with a giant coin,
Starting point is 00:51:18 they said in the letter. Beyond a shadow of a doubt, a groundhog's weather prediction is no more accurate than flipping a coin. Up for debate. He is not a meteorologist and deserves better than to be exploited every year for tourism money. Okay, I just want to say, like, PETA is dying on the wrong hill. There are so many more worthy animal causes. And I think when it comes to, like, old school traditions that involve animals, like, we have to take it case by case. Like, I think a really old school tradition, like, here in New York is the horse and carriage rides in the city. And like I personally feel like those should not be allowed anymore. Like I think we've evolved past that as
Starting point is 00:51:51 a society. Punxsutawney Phil having to work one day, he'll be fine. I'm sure he's treated like a king. I am sure the horses in Central Park are looking at Punxsutawney Phil as like this privileged snob. And like he's getting attention the attention of PETA PETA should be using their platform for bigger and better things I'm sorry this is a waste or what about like the dogs that were shot dead by Hamas on October 7th as they invaded Israel like where's PETA on that love the point you're bringing up there too like love that PETA can fuck right off is how I feel seriously this is such an abuse of their platform Pax Atoni Phil doesn't hurt anybody he probably lives this lavish life nobody talks to him except
Starting point is 00:52:35 for one day he has to work one day and all he has to do is like be put in a box he's fine leave him alone this is a harmless tradition and I'm a big advocate on behalf of animals. Like whenever I see something, when I see a dog, you know me, when I see a dog in a movie, it bothers me. I think Phil is fine. Phil is fine. And like why are you trying to unemployed Phil?
Starting point is 00:52:56 Phil is fine. He has a job. He makes a living. He has a nice life. And you want to fire him? You want to take his job away? Hog with no job? Andil has a family to support wrong wrong the only if they wanted to make a good argument i would say the argument would be like
Starting point is 00:53:13 how about we stop dropping the groundhogs yeah and that's a human error thing like bill de blasio dropped a groundhog correct yes? Yes. Where was PETA? Then. Because that ain't right. It's what we like to call animal abuse. I would not want to hold a groundhog personally. Like, they're kind of like of the rat elk. Rat elk, yes. And I think perhaps why our reaction to this story, like, is so we don't give a fuck is because it's literally a rat
Starting point is 00:53:45 and like a we're not gonna find me like horses are these beautiful smart unbelievable creatures you know I don't feel that way about a groundhog a groundhog is to me like a beaver yeah like you get a what does that meanyshack? They got groundhogs in the garden and it's like a problem. Yeah. You know? They're pests. It's like a possum.
Starting point is 00:54:09 Yeah, it's a pest. Literally. So, sorry, you're not gonna find me, like I love animals, but like I'm gonna put a mousetrap down, you know?
Starting point is 00:54:17 I'm human. Right. You gotta draw the line somewhere. I'm sorry. No, I think, I stand with Phil and the Puxatawney. Phil, with Phil and the Puxatawney. Phil, only Phil.
Starting point is 00:54:27 The Puxatawney Groundhogs Association. I think what you're doing is totally fine. And it's a nice, one of those like nice archaic traditions that like means nothing, but it's cute. Yeah, no, like we know the weather is not listening to Phil. You know, Mother Nature and Phil do not communicate. And it's like a fun tradition for kids. It's so dumb and harmless. I can't even believe we're having this conversation I agree so officially we stand with Phil yeah if you want to know where the toe stands it's firmly with Phil
Starting point is 00:54:58 it's usually against PETA whatever they're yapping on about no I feel like usually I'm with PETA really I stand with like their cause their mission their reason to tear is about no I feel like usually I'm with PETA really I stand with like their cause their mission their reason to tear is good but I feel like in practice they're always directing their efforts at the worst things and in the worst ways too so I feel okay I think that their choice of campaigns is not always the best like the things they go after but I do think they get a bad rap because I think there are like people who love PETA and maybe don't work for PETA in official capacity who do like insane stunts on behalf of PETA but I actually I don't think those people work for PETA I have like the people who throw paint yes at fashion shows right those don't come from PETA on high
Starting point is 00:55:39 I don't think they're hired you know staffers from PETA I think they're just like real PETA I don't think they're hired, you know, staffers from PETA. I think they're just like real PETA Felix. Well, no. PETAphiles? Yeah, right. But not in the pedophilic sense. In the PETA Felix sense.
Starting point is 00:55:58 Yeah, like how you're a Francophile, you're a PETAphile, but not having to do with children. I just feel like PETA has gotten really far away from their mission at times. I agree with that. And that they use their platform and like their brand name as a more of like a political football than to actually care for animals all animals all the time. I agree with you from like a public POV I think they have like in recent years started to come off a little nuts but I do imagine as an organization they still do really good work like behind the scenes things we don't know about right but why is the good work behind the scenes and the nutty work out front that is a question for the PR director of PETA and it's a good one
Starting point is 00:56:31 yeah it's a good question thank you I feel like they all just like sat around in a room like what's gonna be our next thing and it's like no the past the past five years like we have seen the radicalization of PETA. I completely agree. That's what I'm saying. We need a fresh PETA like that. I mean, that's like Vanderpump Dogs. I think that they are really cause-driven. Vanderpump Dogs is the new PETA.
Starting point is 00:56:56 Like, how we all learned about that dog festival in China. Like, we learned about that from Vanderpump Rules. Yeah. Vanderpump Rules, Vanderpump Dogs is the new PETA. I love that. Love it. Even though Vanderpump Rules, Vanderpump Dogs is the new PETA. I love that. Love it. Even though Vanderpump Dogs like only does dogs,
Starting point is 00:57:09 whereas PETA does all animals. I was just about to say that, but like they don't. I feel like they do other animals. It's just called Vanderpump Dogs. And so they're ready for a rebrand. Actually, I'm sorry. I think they have rebranded
Starting point is 00:57:19 to Vanderpump Pets. But does that just mean like domestic animals? Domestic. I don't know. They're clearly working through what we're working through because they're evolving
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