The Toast - Lady Sitting with Justin Sylvester: Tuesday, May 7th, 2024
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Good morning, millennials. the one the only i keep calling you justina sylvester because ever since i used to call you the lady sitter because that was your username yes then you changed it more professional justin
a sylvester to me i see it justina i'll take it i love it i will take it do you feel like justina
perhaps is like a different side of you a different alter ego if you will i feel like justina's more
professional than the lady sitter i love and I changed it because I was interviewing Michelle Obama.
Oh my God.
And they were like, oh, give us your Instagram handle
because if she posted, we'll go ahead and put it up.
And I couldn't have her post on the Lady Sitter.
Did you change it that minute?
I changed it that minute.
First of all, I didn't know that story.
That's so funny.
No, and honestly, as someone with a kind of weird username,
I feel like literally I was just outside in the lobby
and I met Molly Sims.
She has a podcast here.
And she was like, oh, what's your Instagram?
And I felt like it's like an embarrassing,
but it's not just your name.
No, that's, and that's true.
And also I'm a gay man.
Like, so when other gay men are like,
hey, let me hit you up on Insta.
Oh, it doesn't give like sexy vibes.
No one wants to fuck the ladies that are there.
That is, I do, but i am unique in that you're
unique and you're also a woman that's an amazing point actually no dude wants to like hook up with
a dude named lady it's so true but i just want to say the lady sitter is gone but not forgotten
it's coming back soon we love in a different iteration we love it's gonna be pretty secret
project secret project tell me everything it's been a while since you've been on the toes
You are really crushing a career eyes
You're one of the people who I feel like I just love to keep up with because you've had so many different phases of your career
But you're always at the top of your game. I know you don't even prep for this
I know you're just gonna be hilarious and amazing like you have such a natural ability to
Talk and you get paid to do it for a living and it must be so fun
No, it really is and by the way
i will do this with you any day of the week because i know when i need you you're gonna
come running to me thousand percent and i do love to talk i love to talk people i love to talk pop
culture i like to connect with people and e-news is a little different from daily pop so anytime i
get to do that i'll do it i'm here for it and i love how e has gone through like a few iterations
with their lineup and stuff,
but you are always at the center of it.
I feel like they know what they have with you.
And the fact that you host E! News is so crazy.
I majored in communications.
And whenever we had an intro class, day one,
it was all girls, by the way.
And everyone, one of the questions was like,
where do you see yourself?
What do you want to be?
And all the bitches were like,
I want to be the next Juliana ransom by the way didn't we all
you are how does it feel like you are the thing no no it's not by the way it is kind of wild i'm
not the type of person that when i'm in something i could see it i need to like step away from it
like i need like my eight year tenure to end yep i like to go on a vacation for like a
month and then say oh wow i'm doing that jackie says that all the time she's never able to like
understand how big something is until it's over no no i can't i'm i cannot cannot do it so for me
and i was the same way i was like what do i want to be when i grow up and and you know every model
wanted to be victoria's secret angel every person with a personality wanted to be on the real world.
But everybody with camera presence wanted to be Juliana Orion.
And, you know, I'm grateful that I get to have those people come before me.
But you're so unique in the sense that people who sign up to be like an entertainment reporter
or even like just somebody who interviews other people,
those people themselves usually are not bursting with personality
because a lot of your job is listening.
Oh, 100%.
And a lot of your job is unfortunately not about you.
No.
It's about the person you're talking to.
Yes.
So more often than not,
you don't find someone who's so dazzling in that role
because it's really more of a listening type of role.
But you have this uncanny ability to shine through
without overshadowing the person.
I love, and you do such a great job on your social media
of sharing like, you know, you and J-Lo.
And you're always making me giggle
and I'm supposed to be looking at J-Lo,
but I'm looking at you.
But you do it in a way that's not overbearing.
It's really a very delicate balance
and you are so good at what you do.
Thank you, but it's because I'm a fan.
Yeah.
Like I'm a fan of all these people.
So true.
And when I go to work or when I'm interviewing somebody,
first and foremost, if they're A-list or E-list,
it's their moment.
Like, let's go.
Make them feel special.
And if you're not into the interview,
I never go to something I'm not into.
I always take something.
Have you had any blunders?
Like, I feel last year when Hugh Grant
was being interviewed by Ashley Graham,
and she was asking dumb questions,
but he was being a prick.
And people who so clearly don't wanna be there.
How do you navigate something?
Do you have a moment like that?
Like in your Roman Empire moment?
I've had a few, I've had a few.
And you know what?
Joel McHale was kind of sort of the first one.
Really?
Joel McHale had this like really crazy relationship with E.
Right, because of the soup.
Yeah, he would dog E every chance he would get.
And I was on the Today Show one time doing a segment it was my first time doing this segment huge huge and joe
mckayle would come at me like everything i said he would come at me with something but it was kind of
a great learning curve for me on keeping up like if i can keep up with a joel mckayle you can keep
up with anyone you can keep up with anybody okay it's so true dodge joel and after the segment he came up to me and was like by the way i just want to let
you know i did not make that easy for you and you handled it very well and i was like thank you so
much you know and those are the moments that really like make you and shape you and they're
horrible to go through but they're terrible it's yeah there's also like a time where you get on a
carpet and ease normally second or third it's major yeah entertainment There's also like a time where you get on a carpet and E's normally second or third.
It's major.
Yeah.
Entertainment Tonight is first.
So a star will go to Entertainment Tonight.
Then they'll go to Extra.
And then E will be like third on the carpet.
And a lot of people want to be first.
But I like to see.
Warm them up.
Warm them up.
Warm them up.
And there's like an A-list actress who was like on the carpet.
And I could tell she was not feeling it.
Sometimes they're not in the mood.
Sometimes they're not in the mood.
And by the way, they're human.
Yeah.
Sometimes you're not in the mood.
Sometimes I'm not in the mood.
Yeah.
You should still be nice.
And she came up to me and I said, damn it.
You're not in the mood tonight.
I'm gonna make this quick and painless.
And then she's automatically like feeling you.
Automatically feeling me.
Mm-hmm.
Smart.
Because at the moment you just recognize them yeah and you saw them for
who they were and they've been in glam all day and they've been in glam all day you know what i mean
yeah like i worked for kyle richards for five years friends for 15 and i know when someone is
not feeling it you know sometimes she just doesn't want to be Kyle Richards.
She wants to be the girl in Aspen on a bike with her dog.
A hundred percent.
We talk a lot on the toast.
Something that's actually, and I think that whole Ashley Graham, Hugh Grant thing was a catalyst for that conversation is a lot of these networks are pulling talent who are
not trained journalists.
And it's more so like having an influencer or, you know, a celebrity comment and be be the interviewer not someone like yourself who has years and years of experience of hosting yes
what are your thoughts on this trend and that's why like Hugh Grant was being asked questions and
he was being a dick but they weren't amazing questions and he's you know someone who's been
in Hollywood a million years and it's like yeah what do you think about that listen I think that
what networks are doing is it's a step in the right direction i just
think the approach and the um the way they put it together is short-sighted okay because for me
had ashley graham been with someone like myself right she can bring the glamour let me do the
heavy lifting you could be the celebrity you are you are the
encyclopedia you know everything yeah yeah and i think that's i i think what they're missing is
that pairing yep you know what i mean like i always say like i love that people are getting
a shot at doing this of course it's so fun it's so fun but the good thing about what we do
is whenever you see somebody at the oscars it's the last thing they're going to do for their film.
Right.
Okay.
So follow me here.
It's a pinnacle.
It's a pinnacle.
Yeah.
It's the end of the race.
Yeah.
and this is your first time on the carpet with these people,
the first two minutes of this whole interview is you getting to know them
and just kind of sort of saying hello.
As for like a journalist like myself,
we've been at the premieres.
We've been at the junkets.
It's the fifth time.
It's the fifth time.
This season.
This season.
So when they come up,
we know what they've already answered.
We know what they don't like to answer.
We know where they want this to go. So for networks come up, we know what they've already answered. We know what they don't like to answer. We know where they want this to go.
So for networks out there, always pair your influencers with people who know what they're doing.
And that's what's so great about E! News.
I feel like we're always talking about this on the toast when it comes to you and to Kelty.
She is like an old school journalist.
She is such a pro.
And that's what's so great.
It's like going back to
those roots and i love that they did that same with you and kelty and with e-news like bringing
it back but with like og like you and kelty are entertainment reporters like to a to a t i love it
like i love it it's such a because i feel like for everyone like myself included it was a dream job
growing up oh my god everybody wanted to be juliana ransick and there was only one juliana
ransick and ryan seacrest And it's such a major show.
And it's such a major franchise.
And it's such a major job.
And the fact that you got it.
Like, I'm just perfect.
Perfection.
Perfection.
Thank you.
You know, I think it's one of those things where Juliana and Ryan were regular people
who were fans, who became big household names.
But they did the work.
They did the work.
But when you looked at them,
you thought,
oh, I could be that person.
Accessible.
Accessible.
I could be that Juliana.
And I think that's why reality TV
is such a huge thing in pop culture now
is because they're accessible.
Yeah.
And anyone can be them.
Everyone has a Ramona in their lives.
Everyone's got a Bethany.
I think we all have a little Ramona
inside of ourselves.
I'm more of a Dorinda.
I actually don't agree.
Because I know you very well.
And I do not think you are a Dorinda.
You have like, she doesn't have a sharp tongue.
She just kind of says like the meanest things she can think of.
That's not you.
You're a little bit like Bethany in that sense.
Where everything you say is very pointed.
And well thought out. I'm very, where everything you say is very pointed and well thought out.
I'm very, you know what it is?
I am very careful with my words.
Yes.
Because I have learned living in Los Angeles that people, especially in Hollywood, loose lips sink ships and no one's ever.
Ladies out there, you have to be very crystal clear about the mood you're in you gotta set the tone
yeah because when people repeat something you can't trust that they're gonna repeat it exactly
how you said exactly how you said it or in the context yeah do you LA is so interesting to me
and you've lived here for how long 16 years and you have like a huge social life here, like tons of friends. Love it.
You're a very social person.
And I feel like even the group of friends
that I know you through, like that we share,
lots of drama and everyone's always gossiping.
And I love that I'm like a little out of it
because I live in New York and I always,
I'm a spectator, I'm like, oh, what's the tea,
what's going on?
But I'm not like a mover and shaker within the gossip
because honestly, like I couldn't handle,
LA gossip is different.
It's different, it hits harder.
It hits harder.
And also you never know who you're talking to in LA.
Like it could be someone huge.
100%. A big executive.
1,000%.
I keep my mouth shut when I'm here.
Oh, no, no, no, I'm not.
By the way, if we're not talking in codes.
Yeah, right.
And if we're not talking in codes,
I also pick and choose who I gossip with.
Like I have a gay friend who I can gossip with about gay things.
I have a bougie white lady in LA who I can gossip with about bougie white lady things.
You have to find those vaults.
Your people.
My people.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
I believe I am one of your people.
Yes.
And I would say we have a long phone call quarterly.
100%.
And I know.
I see that call coming in.
It's not FaceTime.
It's on the phone.
It's business.
You are old school, by the way.
You're like the only person who calls me.
And by the way, I'm cleaning.
I'm organizing closets.
I'm like getting shit together.
I'm getting my pleasure chest all situated and stocked up.
But I know when that phone call comes in, I need at least 30 minutes.
So sometimes I literally, I say't, I say, listen,
I need 20.
I need to get prepared.
I gotta take my makeup off.
I gotta put my hair up.
I gotta get in bed.
I gotta get my phone stand.
Come right on through.
Oh,
it's the best time of year when Justin Sylvester calls.
But it's also because we're,
I like to warn people about things happening.
In their orbit.
In their orbit.
So like you don't step in shit or walk through.
It's actually very true.
Maybe it's not even gossip.
It's almost like cautionary.
Yeah.
I feel like whenever I come to LA,
I know like the layout of the people we know
because you really give me a lot of.
Just, I just, I never want,
you don't need to know the details.
What I'm walking into.
You just need to know the outline of what's up.
You can fill in the blanks.
Yeah.
But I will give you the outline.
It's almost this like older brother energy.
Yes, yes.
You're just looking out. What's not gossip?
You're just looking out for me.
I'm just looking out for you.
These are the lanes we will go to
to convince ourselves that we're not gossiping.
But we are.
And it's okay.
That's one of my core tenets
and we always talk about it at the show.
I don't know like who is doing the PR for gossip,
but gossip gets a bad rap and it's fine.
It's amazing.
It's healthy.
It's healthy.
When you do it, by the way, I always say this.
I have my four
friends my i have my core four who i've had for 15 years we will talk about each other to one
another and we will never take it out the group yeah and i don't care and i said this to my friend
this morning if someone comes up to me and says oh my god your best friend's so cute i don't care
if that motherfucker's bankrupt yeah i don't care if he best friend's so cute. I don't care if that motherfucker's bankrupt.
Yeah.
I don't care if he has a lien on his house.
I don't care if he's missing one eye.
I don't care if he's about to go to jail for domestic violence.
I will be like, yeah, that's a winner right there.
Yeah.
You better get this man.
You gas him up.
I'm going to gas him up.
That's a good friend.
Even if he's on trial.
Even if he's on trial.
I'm going to gas him up.
Do you think that if you're like seriously like
your friend is you know being courted by someone on their way to prison and you're gassing them up
do you think that's you being a good friend that's me being a great friend okay you stand by what you
said i'm gonna stand by what i said because you know what innocent until proven guilty did he lie
innocent until proven guilty i don't know i just feel especially in Los Angeles, but correct me if I'm wrong, like you go up to a guy and you're like,
oh, your friend's kind of cute.
And their first thing they say is, oh, but she's a mess.
And I'm like, I don't know, that's weird.
I just find it weird when your friend can't find something
nice to say about you first.
Agreed, well, that's not a friend.
No.
Because the people I love and I know,
I couldn't stop saying positive things about them. 100%. And by the way, if I can't find something nice to say about you first. Agreed, well that's not a friend. No. Because the people I love and I know,
I couldn't stop saying positive things about them.
100%.
And by the way, if I can't find something nice,
I would be like, oh he's not available right now.
Oh, you're creative.
He's in transition right now.
Speaking of, are you available right now?
I always ask you that, and you're very good
about keeping your private life private,
and I think it actually really helps you
have a really balanced life.
Yes. So feel free not to answer but people always want to know and are you
the type of guy i feel like people are always wanting to set you up with their friends you
know what's interesting people never set me up with the right friends white ladies are the worst
yeah white ladies are the worst at setting up gay friends no because they just say gay gay go they
don't know top bottom bottom, verse. Claudia.
Come on, Claudia.
I'm well-versed in gay culture.
Come on, Claudia.
Well, okay, so what did you think?
When I wanted to set you up, and I'm still holding out hope for you and Brian Kelly.
It's going to happen at some point.
And you think it's a good match?
I think it's a good match.
Because he thinks so, too.
But you guys are just sort of like two ships passing in the night.
Like, when it first got brought up, he was about to have his first kid, and he was just not in that type of place.
And then you were seeing someone, and then he was seeing someone it will happen i think it'll happen at
some point okay i think brian and i will happen at some point even if we're third husbands yeah
at 76 love will happen but it was a good match thank you it was a good match it was well thought
out too i didn't just say like oh i know two gay people let's put them together yeah yeah but that
is how it is sometimes brian's in pennsy He's playing with horses. It's not the right time.
No, no.
And, you know, I'm a Scorpio.
Meaning?
I'm not into that stuff, so.
Oh, so I'm like, I'm the type.
I'm such like a, I'm a bitch in the sense that like, if I know you like me and I'm into you, but I know I can't have you, I will still have you and then run away and then make you realize think oh, why didn't he like take me?
But I just wanted to let you're toxic
Brian's birthday is March 7th. What does that make him? I have no clue me neither
I'm so like not into that's very LA
I'm into it for myself to know like what I am and And if I end up dating somebody, what I do is I always read our charts together.
You do?
Yeah.
So I have someone read the charts together just so I'm aware and they're aware.
That's very LA of you.
It's super LA.
What would like your friends from home say if they knew that you did that?
I think they would just be happy to know that I'm like interested in someone.
You know what?
They sound like great friends actually.
They are.
And by the way, they've all had kids at 23.
So like they're like, oh my God, like what like great friends, actually. They are. And by the way, they've all had kids at 23. So like,
they're like,
oh my God,
like,
what are you doing?
Right,
they're interested.
Yeah,
they want to know everything.
That's nice.
Yeah,
it is nice.
And I,
you know,
it's a bummer though.
We're on all different life tracks.
Yeah.
And when I'm about to start having kids,
they're about to graduate.
Coming out of it.
Yeah,
you know,
so it's like,
it's really a bummer, but I wish I could live there. Well, so I was going to start having kids. They're about to graduate. Coming out of it, yeah. Yeah, you know, so it's like, it's really a bummer,
but I wish I could live there.
Well, so I was going to ask you,
because Sebastian Maniscalco was on the show yesterday,
and he grew up, you know, very middle class.
He's in northwest suburbs of Chicago,
and his life now is so different,
because obviously he does really well.
He also married a girl who he said, you know,
came for money, and they live a nice life.
You know, he cold plunges, he plays pickleball,
and some of the things that are, he does prolon.
Some of the things that are a part of his life
would send his home friends into an early grave.
What is something that, what is so LA about your life
that would send your home friends into a tizzy?
Oh, they would.
Cause you're very into LA culture.
Oh, they would flip if they knew I had
mail delivery service. Oh, yeah would flip if they knew I had meal delivery service.
Oh, yeah.
Or that I only like, ugh, this is gonna sound so bougie.
Say it.
Ugh, but that business class, once you do it one time.
I'm so glad you brought that up.
It's actually, like you shouldn't fly business class
because once you do, you can't go back.
And I was that girl who was like Expedia, price alerts,
give me the lowest price.
Oh, middle seat in the crate area.
Cargo, sitting in cargo.
Next to two babies.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, and a crate next to a chicken.
I am good.
Then you have that business experience.
Yeah.
And bitch, let me be real.
Yeah.
I pass out before the flight even takes off.
Oh, I wish I could do that.
So I shouldn't even be enjoying,
I'm not even enjoying the business.
Yeah, that's a disgrace.
But if you had been sitting in coach,
would you be able to sleep?
Like a baby.
Oh, well that's a waste of money.
Like a baby.
But when you have it for the first time,
it's just, it's a lick.
It's also so funny,
like what people are really particular about.
I'm the same way where I really, really,
like I can't, I love to sit in first class.
Like it means so much to me.
With Ben, like if he's sitting in first class
or he's sitting in the last row behind the toilet,
it means nothing to him.
But yesterday we check into the hotel.
He calls me an hour later because I was working.
He's walking around the hotel with the manager
looking at different rooms.
He's so specific about hotel rooms.
I walk in, I'm like, the room is fine.
He's like, it's not the one I wanted.
He's crazy.
But like first class,
he thinks it's the biggest waste of money.
And he's also broad.
I thought it would like, he'll give me the seat.
Like he doesn't care.
He does not care.
You know, that's so weird
that I don't relate to the hotel room thing.
Me neither.
A bed is a bed.
A bed is a bed.
I'm never in there.
Never.
And honestly, I find like hotel suites
To be so wasteful
Like I like a regular room
Hotel suite is so big
The TV is so far away
I like the TV right up my ass
Yeah
I agree
And if it's a good trip
I haven't been in my hotel room all day
And I'm not going back till later
Like it's nothing
No
If I'm on a cot
Well okay
I draw the line at a cot
No no
If it's free
I will get in the cot
Oh if it's free
It's free
If it's free
I'm getting on a cot
100% Except at Coachella I'm just like I's free, I will get in the car. Oh, if it's free, it's free. If it's free, I'm getting on a cot. A hundred percent.
Except at Coachella.
I'm just like, I'm 37 now.
I agree.
I can't really.
We're women of a certain age.
Yeah.
You know, that's so funny that you asked that.
Yeah.
Well, I, like, I'm just like you.
Like, I love first class.
Like, it's the best thing on the planet.
It's weird.
It also makes me want to work harder.
It's definitely motivating.
I agree.
It's definitely motivating. I agree. It's definitely motivating. And I think, you know, for myself,
I grew up watching, you know, 90210 and Melrose plays and like, you know, gossip girl.
And that life, my mom was a single mom with, you know, made $30,000 raising three kids by herself.
Like I had to make straight
A's to get a pair of jeans a hundred percent and the jeans better be 50 bucks like it like my life
was so different was so different and watching those people and going to catholic school where
everyone got cars when they were 16 and i knew i wasn't going to get one it really made me want to
work hard hustle and hustle and being able to buy my own car at 17 and have an
apartment at 16 and, and do all of these things and be independent was the biggest flex for me.
No. And you ended up so much better off because of it.
I really did. And, and so much. So it's so weird because I always say I want to marry somebody
with means, but I have a hard time taking anything from anyone.
Yes.
It's like I dated this rich older man forever
and he was always like,
oh my God, let me get you this.
Let me get you that.
And I look back and in my 20s,
I was like, no, it's okay, John.
I'll do it.
Like, yeah.
And I'm so dumb.
I should have taken everything that he was offering.
No, but I get it.
And I feel like it's such a testament to like,
you know, I was also raised by a single mom and like single moms are a different breed, different breed.
And they, the kids they raise are a different breed too.
A fucking breed.
And I think so much of your success can be tied to that hustle and that instinct to just
want like exactly how your mom, when she got up in the morning, like she was doing it for
you, you know, that sort of instinct.
I love meeting.
And so many of the most successful people I know were raised by single parents because it's just a different level oh it's a whole different level
especially boys raised by single moms well yeah um you know I have a friend who's a single mom
and she talks about it like she wonders like oh what's my son gonna be like am I should I give
his dad another chance I'm like listen I was raised by a single mom who had a tenth of what you're working with yeah yearly yeah you can do it yeah
you know she's a celebrity she's out there and you know she's having a hard time like coming to
terms coming to terms with the fact that she's a single mom this is her life yeah i'm like your
kid's gonna be fine the greatest you know prospect for any girl out there it's true by the way because you grow up
with such a deep respect for women if you're like a a boy who's raised by a single mom specifically
100 i was also raised in the 90s yeah kids who went on on on playgrounds between the years of 87
and 97 and survived yeah which we are we're winning survivor every year different tonka trucks okay
that's funny it's tonka trucks you know it's so true my delicate girl my girlfriends who are here
who are delicate soft who like can't take you know any type of rejection or like a no and are in
their feelings for four months i'm like no girl i had to run through a playground every single
goddamn day get up survive i had to survive it a playground every single goddamn day. Get up.
Survive, I had to survive.
At the end of the day, Justin, it's about survival.
That's all it's about.
Now you are here to do what we love to do best,
and that is just talk shit,
and talk about what's going on in the world.
And we haven't done an episode,
we have a lot to talk about.
Last night here in LA was the Tom Brady roast,
which made a lot of waves.
So Justin, let me ask you a question.
Are you ready for the fast five stories
that you need to know?
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Okay, I really want to talk about the roast from last night.
And more specifically, a couple of things.
But the first story is Kim kardashian getting booed
yeah i would say one of the most viral moments and by the way a lot happened at the roast but
the thing everyone's really talking about is it was live so you know it couldn't have been cut out
it was live streamed on netflix yeah and she got up there to roast tom brady there was what like
20 people who did it but when she got up there the crowd started booing it's kind of wild it's
wild i feel like celebrities but kardashians specifically do not put themselves in these But when she got up there, the crowd started booing. It's kind of wild. It's wild.
I feel like celebrities, but Kardashians specifically, do not put themselves in these types of situations.
Like this doesn't happen to them.
No, it doesn't happen to them.
And you know what, though?
When it does happen to them, they handle it really well.
She was graceful.
That's a good point.
She's graceful as can be.
And I've seen her in hot spots.
Listen, when you're listen when you're
killing it that much it's like polarizing people are so jealous people
people are so jealous yeah there's a weird weird space and I think a lot of
times when these you know let's say reality girls are these singers singers
go into other arenas yes like sports yes more about sports last night people get
a little like Oh Stan, stay in your lane.
Yeah, I think a lot of people thought that the booing was like, you know, Taylor Swift
versus Kim because that feud has come back to the forefront now with Taylor's new song.
But when you think about who was in the audience, you're right.
It's sports people.
It's the same way at the beginning when Taylor would go to Chiefs games and they would put
her on the Jumbotron.
People were booing.
People were booing.
It's like, stop.
I don't think this particular thing had anything to do with Taylor.
I think you're right.
It's like, think about who's going to the roast
of Tom Brady.
Yeah.
It's like toxic men.
It's a toxic man, and they don't wanna see
their reality star there.
It's like a man space, blah, blah, blah.
So no, you're right.
It wasn't about Taylor.
I probably would've never went.
If you were Kim.
If I was Kim, I would've been like,
you know what, I'm showing up.
I'm gonna walk on that stage. I'm gonna make two showing up. Yeah. I'm going to walk on that stage.
I'm going to make two jokes about myself and I'm walking right back to that car.
Yeah.
That's literally what she did.
You know what I mean?
Like, so I don't know.
It's just about, I think, getting in a different arena.
But I think also participating in a roast.
First of all, like being Tom Brady, I would literally never.
Big money.
Because big money.
Big fucking money.
One of my favorite documentaries I always talk about is Joan Rivers' piece of work.
And during the time they're filming her, she agreed to do the Comedy Central roast.
And she was so dreading it.
But she's like, everyone's like, it's a rite of passage.
It's an honor to be roasted.
And she's like, fuck that.
Like they spend the whole time making fun of how you look and your career.
And it was this thing she so deeply didn't want to do.
And you could tell it was like this plaguing her the entire documentary.
Just dreadful.
And they pay you so much. And she was a hustler joe she was never going to turn down a financial opportunity and she did it and she said it was fucking horrible like she hated
it crazy and by the way he doesn't need the money tom brady doesn't need the money i will say this
i'm gonna give this bitch her props nikki glazer is unbelievable if someone ever tells me that nikki glazer
is not funny i will find you like liam neeson and make you watch this roast nikki glazer is funny
point blank period she's a super talented comic but she has had like three or four viral appearances
at different roasts. My most memorable one
was when she did the roast of Alec Baldwin.
Holy shit.
She didn't hold back for a second.
Last night was no different.
She was absolutely the star.
Absolutely.
I love that for her, by the way,
because there are so many male comics on there
and I feel like they just put a woman there
to say that they did.
And the fact that she ended up being the funniest
with the most cutting
clever jokes i was i love her it was so good but it was so good make sure question what do you think
giselle thinks this morning so a lot of jokes about giselle and then the second story that i
want to talk about was the joke they made about bridget moynihan um but giselle yes because
obviously that's like the most top of mind thing right now a lot of jokes about you know her vagina and her fucking the
Krav Maga instructor and it's really unfortunate like she it's it's almost like that's what I
don't love about roasts like Tom Brady signed up for this she's a casualty she did not and if you
just saw the most recent um body camera footage where she got pulled over by the cops and she's
like literally having a mental breakdown crying that the paparazzi are following her she's clearly like you know not in an amazing
place no i will say though i feel like it was kind of sort of 80 20 in terms of giselle jokes
in terms of giselle jokes yeah it was more about him leaving his family to go pay another you know
season of football of course she left you of course she you know what i mean i loved that i loved it i really did love it you know i think
she is one of those people though who gets it she knows what she married yeah and by the way i hope
so we forget about this she also had to live through the you were the reason why he left his
pregnant girlfriend okay so she's got some tough skin. She definitely does and honestly,
because I love the show Blue Bloods
that Bridget Moynihan stars in.
And I just feel like it's one of those things
in pop culture like people don't know about.
But for me, it's one of my pop culture Roman empires.
Tom Brady leaving Bridget Moynihan while she's pregnant
to go have kids and get married to Giselle.
And then his kid with Bridget Moynihan
sometimes lives with Giselle and him.
Like, it's the most fucked up thing on the planet,
and I just wanna say, like, I appreciate, like,
him getting dragged for that last night,
because I'm sorry, that's just something
you don't fucking do.
That's rich lady shit, though.
It's insane.
That's rich lady shit, but we also don't know,
please tell me you saw the tweet
that she liked the other day.
Okay, wait, who?
Bridget Moynihan. No, so I saw she posted she posted like a cryptic thing on instagram okay so this that
was actually my second story perfect segue so bridget moynihan posts a cryptic message after
tom brady is roasted for dumping her pregnancy so she showed a cryptic quote via instagram on
monday after her ex tom brady was roasted in the goat which aired on sunday yada yada
tom brady was slammed for breaking up with the model while she was pregnant with their son Jack in 2006.
So she shared a quote, Bridget Moynihan,
loyal people take shit more personal
because they never would have done that shit to you.
And then she wrote, so true.
So I don't really get the quote.
I don't loyal people take shit more personal
because they never would have did that shit to you.
Is she calling herself the loyal person?
I think it's about somebody else.
Oh, you think it's unrelated?
I think it's unrelated.
Okay.
I also think I've been in situations where I've seen people go through marital stuff while they're pregnant.
And things aren't what they seem on the outside.
So we don't know the whole story. We don't. And we don't know the whole story we don't and we
will never know the whole story because there's her side there's his side and there's the truth
so we will never know yeah but it tells me a lot that she is allowed Giselle is allowed to not only
be around the kid but to post the kid. No, that's true, actually.
That's true.
Because if my, let's say my fiance.
Let's say you're Bridget.
Let's say I'm Bridget.
And my man left me while I was pregnant
and I was caught off guard and I had no idea
and I was struggling with it.
There is no way in my mind that I would allow my child
to be featured on someone else's social media.
That's really, really true.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Look, I know he has to go
to your house 50% of the time.
Of course, legally I can't say no.
But I can tell you not to post him,
especially if you're Giselle
and you have millions of followers.
125%.
Yeah.
So I think they're kosher.
Well, I mean, so much time has passed
and I do like some,
like everything works out for the best.
I'm sure Bridget Moynihan's really hot.
I know she's married. By the way, her new man is hot Bridget Moynihan's really hot. I know she's married.
By the way, her new man is hot.
Yeah.
Like she's fine.
And successful.
She's fine.
I don't think she's up at night talking about this.
No, she's good.
I am.
Right.
I still I'll just never get over it.
By the way, I don't know if I would ever get over it either.
So actually a little personal anecdote.
I think I've shared this on the show before, but I love like I said, I love her show Blue Bloods.
And I was actually invited to set to like watch a taping or whatever.
And I'm like in those chairs with the headphones watching.
It's like a family dinner scene.
So the whole cast is there.
And me and Margo were obsessed with the show.
We're having the best time.
And in between takes, they're wearing their mics and I can hear everything.
So they're all just talking.
They're all close with one another.
And someone was, one of the younger girls on the show said she started dating this guy who lives in Boston.
And Bridget Whitehead goes, I used to date a guy who lived in Boston.
And the whole crowd, the whole table started laughing, obviously talking about Tom Brady.
And she said it in a very casual, like it wasn't bitter.
It was like, you know, when you've healed from something, you can talk about it.
So I agree.
I don't think she's up at night still.
I actually don't think anymore like this is her Roman Empire.
No.
For me, I'll never not talk about it.
By the way, I didn't even have the baby.
But I'm still claiming the C-section scar that you should have saw me have.
A thousand percent.
And you know what?
I'm glad that this roast happened because, you know, Tom Brady is super, super famous.
And we don't think about this anymore.
No.
But he did that shit.
And you know what?
I'm sure Bridget Moynihan got her flowers last night briefly.
I'm sure she felt good, by the way.
Oh, no, no, no.
I'm sure Giselle. I'm sure Bridget Moynihan got her flowers last night briefly. I'm sure she felt good, by the way. Oh, no, no, no. I'm sure Giselle.
I'm sure she felt good.
I'm sure any other girl who has been victimized by Tom Brady's not calling them back.
Yup.
Felt vindicated last night.
But I wish he would just send me a DM.
That man is hot.
How much do you think he got paid?
Because money really, he doesn't need money.
He doesn't need money.
But I think what happens
with these sports stars they miss these they it's not that they miss it it's that we forget
that they started this journey when they were five years old they have been working up to this point
of their lives to be in the nfl to be the goat to be the greatest that ever did it and your whole
life your parents told you,
you're the shit, we're putting out,
we're hitching our wagon to this trailer, okay?
And your siblings had to take a back seat,
your parents ignored your younger brother
because he didn't do shit.
Like, it just happens.
And your whole identity is caught up in that thing.
And all of a sudden somebody says,
all right, you're out.
The new guy's in
it's hard you have to then redefine yourself i was duane wade and duane wade is one of my favorite
athletes of all time interesting and listening to him talk about his retirement and listening to
his wife gabrielle union talk about like her having to tell him, you gotta find a purpose. Like you have to remember and put yourselves
in those guys' positions.
Yeah, and I think also, no matter who you are,
attention is exciting.
It's fun.
I think there are people who retire from sports
and like the quiet life, but for the most part,
we're all human and to go every week,
getting the most attention, everyone's talking about you,
to quiet is hard.
And I think that's actually why he ended up
coming out of retirement the first time.
He lost so much because of it,
but at least he won the Super Bowl.
Like if he didn't.
By the way, by the way, I get it.
And I get it.
If my man promised me that he was gonna retire
and be here with the kids,
I don't know what i would do
when he went back on that word we were nagging on your word no matter what it is like it's not
an attractive quality it's not an attractive quality although i married tom brady yeah you
know what i mean so it's kind of a it may marry giselle they're equal i think relationships have
dynamics and i agree with you yeah but if she said i'll never put on that diamond bra again
and then all of a sudden Victoria's Secret was like,
50 million for one walk?
I'm not gonna be mad if she went down that runway
one more time.
Yeah, yeah, no, but the thing about being an athlete
is it's so much time away from your family.
I know, but I feel the same way with reality stars.
Explain.
It's like when people date reality stars
and don't know that a camera comes with that life
and people stopping you and the attention and the scrutiny, Like when people date reality stars and don't know that a camera comes with that life and
people stopping you and the attention and the scrutiny, I feel like it's almost on that
level.
Yeah.
Where it's like, you just, you know what you're signing up for.
You kind of know what you're signing up for.
You just have to keep that line of communication open.
And I don't know if she's dating the jujitsu coach, but he's fine.
No, he can get it.
He can get it.
And I hope she is.
And I hope she's taking eight classes she is and i hope she's taking eight
classes a day and i hope she's pretzeling and doing all the damn things thousand percent i
champion that relationship who do you think he's going to end up with i wasn't into the irina
irina shake relationship i didn't think it was right you know why why she's not basic enough
i agree and by basic i feel like you feel like he's gonna be with some basic
and you're like no why her yeah no no i just expect him to be with someone and i guess it
doesn't make sense because giselle i think giselle is america's sweetheart you know but she's brazilian
like yeah she's not like you know when you think of like the quarterback and the cheerleader you
know who is the cheerleader honestly taylor Taylor Swift. But I literally ship.
By the way.
Who do you see him with?
Just someone basic.
Me?
I see him being like with a, no, shut up.
You're going to stay with Ben forever.
Forever.
I just see him being with some rando girl who you're like, I cannot believe it was you.
Yeah.
All along., all along.
Of all people.
A wolf in sheep's clothing.
A wolf in bad extensions.
Yeah.
Just like, purse is just not right ever.
But like, nice.
Yeah, Irina Shayk was almost like too chic for him.
Too cosmopolitan, too worldly.
But she fucked up.
You never want to be the first person in there.
Well, no, because you're always only going to be a rebound. never want to be the first person in there. Well, no, because you're always only going to be a rebound.
You gotta not be the first person in there.
And Jackie and I have a running joke on the show based off of like when Irina Shayk was dating Bradley Cooper.
And then when they broke up and all the stories that were coming out, she kind of gives off like desperate energy.
Now, I've never met her and I don't know that to be true or not.
But even with the Tom Brady stuff, it was just like, it didn't feel right.
Yeah, you know, she didn't give me desperate energy.
I actually think she's probably cool.
Probably almost too cool.
And I think that's the problem.
I think she's too cool.
Like, I think he likes, you know, I like-
She's like so fashion-y.
Yeah, I like a Florida man.
Yeah.
Who like thinks he's showing you like new shit, but really like you've been to the Amman
three times.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, you know what I mean?
But you have to pretend like you've never been there.
Yeah, very salt of the earth.
Very salt of the earth.
Like, I think he likes, I think he wants to show somebody something.
Like, he wants to like, be like, look at my house.
You can't show Irina Shayk shit.
No.
She did in Bradley Cooper for a million years, and she's literally like one of the biggest
models in the world.
She's seen everything.
Twice. She's too cool. Yeah. But he'll go back i like that he'll go back what else you have on that okay ready yeah i was shocked to hear it i didn't
see this today did you see that bethany frankel and her fiancee had broken up no after six years
together paul damn they're broken she's going through it i mean her mom passed away and i think
she had a very toxic relationship with her mom she posted a really long caption that was very sweet like how you know she had this very strange relationship
with her mom but when someone like that passes away like how do you grieve I think a lot of
people related to that and now her and Paul are done so I don't think it's gonna be permanent
you don't know I think when you're going through that much keep in mind she's going through a
divorce she just finalized that after 10 years she has a
16 year old daughter i can't believe brennan's trying to yeah like i just think bethany frankel
i think anybody in a relationship who's going through that much i bet you i could see myself
taking a break from my fiance and saying let me get through this and we'll come back around. Damn. She's also very low key about this relationship.
Like this was her first relationship after Dennis
and after Dennis passed away.
Well, she protected it.
And she, I think she was like,
saw what happened with Dennis,
especially like putting him on the show
and was like, I don't think I ever wanna go through that.
So I feel like we know nothing about him.
I know he's just like a successful businessman.
And that's the thing, when your man's in the pen
and he's got his own cash and you don't need that.
Yup. Like you don't need that.
Yup.
Like you don't need
that storyline anymore.
But she also doesn't have
anywhere to put it.
Right.
I mean she's big on the talk.
She's always making TikToks
but she's very focused
on beauty.
Yeah.
And focused on her daughter.
I get it.
Like she's
she'll be fine.
She'll be fine.
But I was shocked to hear this.
They'll get back together.
They also got engaged
relatively quickly
and they never got married.
They've just been engaged
like forever.
Would you get married
if you had that?
If I was Bethany?
If I was Bethany Frankel?
Meaning why financially
or because you know
my history?
Because of your history.
Yeah I guess
like that will scar you.
That will turn you off
to the institution of marriage.
He was so fucking crazy
that Jason Hoppy.
He is evil.
You know what? I think it's it's damned on both of them yeah I
think she wanted to get married I think she wanted to have a baby I think it was the next best thing
in her life like well whoever's next people do it all the time and they get stuck in relationships
with people that they don't really like because they thought that the clock was ticking. But I just saw Ashanti get pregnant at 43 on accident.
Who?
Ashanti.
I know, I'm obsessed.
Oh my God, no, no, no.
Everyone is talking about like,
because it's literally,
they are like an early 2000s couple coming back to life.
100%.
I'm obsessed.
I'm obsessed with this.
So, you know, I think a lot of times
you have to really look at the partner you're picking.
For sure.
And say, how nice of a divorce can I have with this person?
Yeah, like when you see someone at their worst.
Well, that's what they say about divorce.
I loved that Adam Driver, Scarlett Johansson movie.
Because like the person you marry and the person you divorce are two separate fucking people.
That's why they really say it's like a death
because this person who saw you naked,
who saw inside and out, becomes your enemy.
It's like, I literally can't imagine going through it.
It sounds horrible.
It's horrific.
Horrific.
And I think the more you leave to chance, the worse it is.
So when I hear people talking about prenups.
What's your take on that?
Do it.
Yeah.
Do it.
But you're very LA, by the way.
I think that's a big LA way of seeing things.
And I don't disagree.
I just think you do it.
I don't know.
I wasn't a prenup guy.
And if my man's got $2 billion, I probably won't be a prenup guy.
Oh, yeah.
It's circumstantial.
If I'm Lauren Sanchez, I probably won't be a prenup girl. What do you thinkantial if I'm Lauren Sanchez I probably won't be a prenup girl what do you think about Lauren Sanchez we love her I love Lauren
Sanchez right like she kind of is one of the girls I love Lauren Sanchez I'm so glad I also
have you met her I have met her once in passing was she nice we have she was very nice very pretty
yeah um I always tell people because everyone's like oh she didn't have a job i'm like
dating a billionaire is a full-time job and if anyone is hiring i am definitely open to that job
internship over here okay you don't have to pay it okay i just need a condo somewhere cute and by
the way you i think like that's a serious statement Like it's obviously a joke But those type of men
Like especially at that level
Like a Jeff Bezos
Requires so much work
Yes
They're really not well
They're not well
And also keep in mind
Jeff Bezos comes from the tech world
Lauren Bezos
I'm calling her Bezos already
I love
Comes from entertainment
So she's walking him
Through this whole thing
And navigating
His new stardom His new stardom I love that That's so true And she's the gatekeeper I bet she's walking him through this whole thing and navigating. His new stardom.
His new stardom.
I love that.
That's so true.
And she's the gatekeeper.
I bet she sits in on his PR meetings and shit
because she's definitely well-versed
in the Hollywood landscape.
I think she's running the whole PR,
that Vogue situation.
I think she's running the whole PR scenario.
And I like how she's putting herself at the center of it.
And she's putting herself at the center.
But by the way, guess what?
I would do the same thing too. You would do it too's putting herself at the center of it. And she's putting herself at the center. But by the way, guess what? I would do the same thing too.
You would do it too for a check.
You would do it too.
I would do it for a two-piece,
two-piece dark at Popeye's, okay?
I would do it for a Wendy's value meal
at this point.
No, literally.
Seriously.
On a boat, on a boat.
On a boat, that boat.
Yeah, but you know,
I think people are hating her
because again,
when you come up too fast,
people get jealous.
No, and she's really like living the dream.
I'm so mad.
No, and to be honest,
I feel like there are a lot of billionaires out there.
None of them are particularly gorgeous.
You know, there's not like the hot billionaire.
Jeff Bezos isn't that bad looking, you know?
No, he's not. He works out.
He works out.
He's a little, you know, Mr. Clean Baldy.
Like, it's a look, it's a vibe.
She got him in shape.
By the way, she created the billionaire
she wished to see in this world. She got him in shape, but you way, she created the billionaire she wished to see in this world.
She got him in shape, but you know who's really winning?
Let me think.
Let me think.
Wait, I'm going to send it to you telepathically.
Grimes.
No, no.
Another billionaire wife winning, had her own shit, but now has more, is killing the
game now.
Help me.
She's been with her man for like 16 years.
Steve Harvey's wife.
No, bitch.
Salma Hayek.
Oh, Salma fucking Hayek
And on that note
Eva Longoria as well
Selma Hayek's husband
Is LVMH correct
Yes
And Eva Longoria's husband
Is L'Oreal
Telemundo
Telemundo
Yeah it was Telemundo
It's everything
It's a big conglomerate
It's everything
By the way you're so right
Selma Hayek's man
Is really underrated
Selma Hayek's man
Is really underrated
And Selma Hayek Herself is really underrated. Selma Hayek's man is really underrated and Selma Hayek herself
is underrated.
She is a phenomenal actress.
She is a great personality.
She's a huge
humanitarian. Hysterical.
And she had to get pushed down the
aisle to marry that man.
That's a boss ass move. Why'd she have to get pushed?
Because she said she didn't believe in the institution
of marriage. Even to a billionaire? Even to a billionaire who asked her more than one time to marry her. That's a boss ass move. Why'd she have to get pushed? Because she said she didn't believe in the institution of marriage. Even to a billionaire?
Even to a billionaire
who asked her more than one time
to marry her.
That's so legendary.
Her family had to be like,
bitch, walk down this aisle.
Generational wealth.
Like, get it together.
And she didn't want to do it.
That's impressive.
I'm super impressed by Salma Hayek.
Oh, I love that.
You know what?
I never think about Salma Hayek
and now I will.
I think about her all the time.
I think about Eva Longoria because I feel like she got the best of both worlds.
She was married to that hot Tony Parker.
Oh, Tony Parker didn't deserve her.
Agreed.
Did he cheat on her?
Yes.
But he was hot, so I enjoyed seeing.
And that was her Gabby Solis years.
But you see, I go back with Eva Longoria to Young and the Wrestlers.
You don't even remember those days.
Yeah, no.
I was introduced to her with Desperate Housewives.
Oh, you see, I go back when she was like the crazy woman on who was stalking paul and cricket that's
funny on wine aura so i've been down with even longoria for a very long time but i think what
even longoria is doing is taking hollywood and what she's doing is she's saying we don't have
one lane these are the lanes we can have she is a oscar nominated producer yeah no she's doing is she's saying, we don't have one lane. These are the lanes we can have. She is an Oscar nominated producer.
No, she's being really smart.
She's being really smart and stealth.
So I feel like when she was married to Tony Parker and she was like kind of just this like really in demand actress.
It was fun.
Yeah.
She was wearing Brian Atwood on courtside.
Nothing so serious.
Just like fun, rich, good vibes.
But you know, it's tough.
This is a tough industry for a woman.
You got to evolve.
fun, rich, good vibes.
But you know, it's tough.
This is a tough industry for a woman.
You gotta evolve.
And I think once her relationship ended and then she met this new guy
who's like a real business head,
her entire career twisted around.
She has outlasted every one of these bitches.
Like, especially from a business perspective,
Casa Del Sol Tequila, her production company,
The Flamingo, she's the director now.
A thousand percent.
I love this second wind,
like the second phase of her life.
But you end up
it would happen to you too yeah if you married someone whose focus was solely on business the
things you absorb from those people are insane it's so true it's so valuable it's like when girls
like when people are like oh she becomes her boyfriend like oh my gosh she just likes what
her husband likes i'm like no she's absorbing everything from him and why is that bad and why is that bad like it's called being in a good healthy
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Next story, we're totally going to like turn the page to like somebody who has been in the news a lot recently and not necessarily in a good way.
Jojo Siwa is reacting to them impersonating her on SNL.
So I don't know if you saw.
I believe it was Chloe Fineman.
Yeah.
Who did a little Jojo Siwa sketch on Weekend Update.
She did the makeup and the dance and just sort of remarked on this very, you know, different phase of Jojo Siwa that we've been seeing.
Now, I imagine being parodied on SNL no matter what is a huge honor.
Yeah.
But, and Jojo loved it, by the way.
She said, iconic.
I literally don't know what to say.
This is fucking crazy. Three and a halfJo loved it by the way. She said, iconic. I literally don't know what to say. This is fucking crazy.
Three and a half minutes skit on SNL.
She loved it.
But like,
you know,
they were like poking fun at her.
They did it to Madonna.
Yeah.
They've done it to Miley.
They've done it to Whitney Houston.
They've done it to Mariah Carey multiple times.
I don't care.
They did it to me.
Did they?
It was like a daily pop.
Kenan Thompson.
Yes.
It was like a gay black guy.
Yes.
It was like, I know that they did it.
Like it was a crazy.
It was meant to be you.
It was meant to be me.
What is it called?
They didn't say it.
I'm going to send you the link.
You better.
But people are like, oh my God, I think he was like kind of poking fun at you.
And it was the greatest day of my life. And they didn't even say it was me or my name but you like are so well versed in it jojo
c was really young to be able to appreciate it even though it wasn't like the most complimentary
honestly i have a lot of respect for that one thousand percent like that's major it takes a
lot not to cry yeah but she came from abbey lee miller that's so true once you've been through
the abdc once you've been through the abDC. Once you've been through the ABDC.
You can kind of go through anything.
By the way, once you've come out.
Oh, that's true also.
Once you've come out of the closet,
not even publicly.
Let's just say you came out to your family and friends.
I want to say coming out to your family and friends.
I wouldn't know.
I've never come out.
It sounds harder than like doing it on Instagram.
The hardest thing you have ever done so a lot of times you see a lot
of gay people in very high stress industries yeah in entertainment yeah murdering the game
we're on every board it's so true we're ripping and running around like we're good we will survive
literally the second coming of the apocalypse it's a baptism by by fire. Like after that, you're untouchable.
After that, you're untouchable.
Well, if you don't mind me asking, what was your experience coming out like?
Oh, are you ready for this?
Hold on.
Let me readjust.
Go.
Oh, shit.
I'm about to throw you for a loop.
I've never been more.
Have I heard this story?
No, probably not.
So I moved from Louisiana.
I started working for Kyle.
Season one, I went undetectable, undetected.
Season two, Taylor Armstrong had a girls and gays and gals party.
Wait, when you started working for Kyle, you were still technically in the closet?
I was still technically in the closet.
I had not formally said anything.
Oh, I don't think I knew that. That's really crazy. Yeah, I the closet. I was still technically in the closet. I had not formally said anything. Oh, I don't think I knew that.
That's really crazy.
Yeah, I was 21.
I was like a kid.
Wow.
And I moved to LA
and I thought,
I'm just going to have
my private life here.
Of course.
I won't have to like
tell anybody at home.
It'll be like this,
you know,
I'll just live my life out here.
Taylor had a gals and gay party,
a 1920s themed scenario.
We're talking with the OGs. Yeah. Seasonatsby vibes oh my god and kyle was like yo would you come with me to this um but i know you're not out
but i want to give you the choice kyle knew kyle knew oh wow that's so major okay yeah yeah we talked about it day one um and she
was like think about it and let me know what you what you think and if you need me to help you
talk to your family you know go to louisiana like i'll do it but if you don't want to do it i
totally understand i respect it yeah um and it was a few days and we talked about it a lot and I went.
Oh my God.
And it's really crazy.
It was televised.
Yeah.
It was televised.
But don't forget, you go to something on a housewife show and then you have six months
until it airs.
Oh, six months of dread.
So I had to sit for six months dread.
Yeah.
Until it aired.
And then I, you know, kind of sort of used the show as my vehicle of coming out.
Like I had to warn them about it.
And it was so easy.
Oh, good.
Because I had went and it was fun and it was nice.
And, you know, I had lived in L.A. for at this point almost eight months.
So I felt a little bit more comfortable.
Do you think if you hadn't been pushed to do that, how much longer it would have taken you?
I probably would have just lived my life here
and not said anything.
Because it wasn't that I wasn't out.
It was a known secret,
but we swept it under the rug.
And I was out of sight, out of mind.
This time I had to say it.
Because it was literally on TV.
It was on TV.
And if it didn't come out then,
it would have came out on Daily Pop.
Because I'm always looking for a man on Daily Pop. Do you Daily Pop. Cause I'm always looking for a man on Daily Pop.
Do you feel, stop.
I was always looking for a man on Daily Pop.
We missed Daily Pop, I just wanna say.
That was so, so good.
It lasted as long as it was supposed to last.
And how many seasons was it on?
Five years.
That's long, that's a win, but we need it.
365, I wish it would come back With three new people Oh not you
Because you Morgan and Carissa
Were the jam
Like that was the perfect formula
That was the perfect formula
Lonnie too
When Lonnie Love came at the end
She's hysterical
She's hysterical
But the three of you
Like Carissa was you know
A little bit serious
And was the one
You know moving the show along
A to B commercial break
You and Morgan just bursting
With personality
And two more different people don't exist.
Like your backgrounds, everything.
And it was just magic.
It was great.
That show was a fluke.
Do you feel,
because you're so close with Kyle Richards,
like whenever something's going,
and a lot has been happening with her in the recent year,
but you've been best friends with her for like 10 years.
Whenever anything happens,
you feel like a spokesperson.
Like, are you the first person people call being like oh it's kyle dating morning morning no one asked me anything really yeah i think everybody respects that i'm in like a
it's like a family thing you know what i mean like she is like my sister i don't talk shit about my
sister i don't talk shit about that sister i don't talk shit my sister could do whatever she wanted
i'm still never gonna to talk about her.
I love that by the way.
That's extremely admirable.
And people have been
really respectful.
Have they?
Yeah.
That whole scenario.
Yeah.
It's been a crazy year.
How is she doing?
She's great.
She's great.
Lady Richards is
doing really good.
In all your time at E,
have you been to the Met Gala?
I've never been
to the Met Gala.
Why?
They have never had me.
So for E, Juliana had been.
Yeah.
Who's going this year?
Zuri Hall.
Oh, she's great.
And Erin Linden.
And she's great too.
She's great.
And Kelty has been, correct?
Kelty's been for E.T.
For E.T., right?
Not for E.
Not for E.
So the Met Gala has officially begun.
The red carpet just started.
I love being in L.A. time.
It's so much better. It's so much better. Oh my God. With the award carpet just started i love being in la time it's so like so much better it's so much better oh my god it was award shows and stuff it's not
midnight when it ends it's literally like nine o'clock um what are your thoughts on the theme
i actually understand the theme this year please explain it to us i don't it's awakening
yep something sleeping beauty sleeping beauty awakening all of these moments it's going garden
of time the garden of time it's looking at all of these archival pieces all these old you know
big fashion moments and reawakening them so you're gonna see a lot of pieces that were archives that
were never worn again will we recognize them as like iconic things yeah you will you will like
kim's outfit from last year in Maryland would have worked.
Could have been perfect this year if she... But it was Americana.
It was perfect for that.
Yeah, by the way, that's true.
Yeah.
I'm going to show you a few people have arrived, and I want you to give me your takes really
quickly.
Anna Wintour.
Ready?
First on the carpet always.
Always.
She's wearing a jacket.
Stunning.
You say stunning.
You know what?
As a host of the party, I understand why she does what she does.
Yeah.
It's always simple.
Yep.
It's always clean and it's always comfortable.
On theme.
And I think she is the, I don't think she needs to go all out because she already went
all out.
We have Lala Anthony who does a lot of red carpet corresponding for Vogue.
And by the way, I think them tapping her and Emma Chamberlain I love both of
them they're so perfect everyone knows Lala so everyone's so comfortable around her she's just
such like a girl she's a girl everybody will stop for her yes they all stop for her and by the way
Lala was the first to do it Lala was on MTV that's actually so true Lala was on MTV years and years
ago so not only are you getting the professionalism, you're getting the celebrity too.
That's very true. Okay, what do you think about Ashley
Graham wearing a fringe bang?
You know what? That body
can do no wrong. No, I agree.
I don't care what she puts on it.
As long as it's hugging it and she has that
confidence, I will fuck with that all
day. I love the Met Gala.
I think it's like the most fun. And maybe it's because
we get so little
you know we're not inside there's a little bit red carpet not even that much but then everything's
very you know unplugged you know i love it why because it's the one thing that everyone wants
to go to and can't that's true i love that they chop 60 p 60 000 people off that list yeah everyone submits
their clients for this and i know some big names that didn't get about it that have gotten ever
say i would never say i have a friend who works at a boat oh he's a friend who works at we talk
about it sometimes obsessed obsessed okay it's nice to have friends in high places. Yeah, yeah. And how do you think as like a more, a straight man,
how to manage the theme?
Sometimes they give nothing.
Sometimes I don't want anything.
Okay.
Sometimes I don't want anything.
Bradley Cooper will show up classic as can be
because he is Bradley Cooper.
For men who can't handle a theme
or a little bit of accoutrement, follow Bradley Cooper.
You will never get it wrong.
And the theme,
I mean,
the sponsor this year
being TikTok
was kind of like
a polarizing thing
people were talking about
because TikTok
has become kind of controversial.
And what are your thoughts
when it comes to like
digital talent,
influencers,
getting invited to these things?
Like when YouTube
was the sponsor
a couple of years ago,
I think they had like
three or four,
Jackie Aina,
Nick Tutorials, James Charles.
And it was very controversial.
Very controversial.
And I feel like this year,
there will be because of TikTok.
And I just saw one of the first to arrive
is this guy, his name is Reese Feldman.
Do you know him?
He's a TikToker.
He does a lot of content at red carpets.
He does a lot of like movie interviews.
He does a lot of movie things.
So I imagine now that seeing him,
and I think he's wearing um this happens all the time the convergence of no no if you watch let's say
nbc gets uh the golden globes nbc talent will host it nbc talent will be presenters yep nbc
will have a moment there.
Somebody from Bravo will come in as well.
ABC, the same thing.
They'll have their late night.
Disney, they'll have their late night hosts people do it.
You know, it just is how the world works.
And now these digital platforms have all this money.
Yep, they're like the only companies with money.
100%, and they can afford to send their people there.
So you know what? If you're with a company and they're like the only companies with money 100 and they can afford to send their people there yeah so you know what if you're with a company and they're on the host committee of course go be proud but anna is so specific and like you said ayla star is getting cut so she's
also she's also also needs that money business woman yeah the fact that they're probably tonight
will be three or four influencers is so crazy and i'm not talking about influencers like some of
them transcend like i feel like now charlie and dixie have been and to me I don't think of them as TikTokers I think of
them as celebrities so that makes sense but I'm so curious about the influencers of it all because
I think a lot of people like look down on it yeah but I think if you are you know in their shoes if
you're Anna Wintour and your you know your YouTube or TikTok comes in and says we get four tables
and we get complete discretion over four tables,
you can't be mad if they invite Jenna Jameson.
No, and at the end of the day,
it's like change or die.
If you're not gonna evolve,
so many fashion trends
and so much fashion comes from social media.
And that was also a couple of years ago with Kim.
They didn't want her there,
but you can't deny her influence on style
and on fashion and on trends.
And the fact that it went from her being, you know,
Kanye's plus one, where everybody made fun of her outfit
and no one wanted her there,
and Anna Wintour almost said no,
to like, it's basically the Kardashian sweet 16 every year.
It's all the girls go and it's like their party.
That's why I feel like Taylor Swift, you know, doesn't go.
No, and by the way, you gotta, if you're Anna Wintour,
yes, you're a business woman, you gotta bend.
Yeah, you gotta bend.
You gotta listen to what the people want,
because you know, when Kim walks on the carpet want. Because when Kim walks on the carpet,
when Zendaya walks on the carpet,
when Doja walks on the carpet,
when Katy Perry walks on the carpet,
when those big celebrities walk on the carpet,
everyone talks about it.
It's always a moment.
And you have to look for those moments.
Thousand percent.
And when you think back in all the iconic,
most amazing things.
First of all, what's your favorite theme in recent history? I loved camp.
I did like camp. I liked when Catholic, when it was heavenly bodies. Yes, I agree.
Oh, heavenly bodies. Rihanna as the Pope. As the Pope. Madonna with her ass out. Like, I love it. That was a really good one. And for me, like I'm not really super into fashion.
Like to me that was a same with camp.
Those are themes that I felt like were really understandable for like the common person.
1000%.
I also really love, you know, that this event is still an event.
I know because nothing's special anymore.
Vanity Fair is kind of special.
Yes, it is. I agree.
You know, this is kind of special. That's it.. I agree. You know, this is kind of special.
That's it.
That's it.
You know what I mean?
I completely agree.
I love that take, by the way.
They have preserved the specialness, if you will, of the event.
And it's still something everyone wants to go to.
What do you think about Emma Chamberlain's look?
I think she looks, she's such a fashion girl.
It's so crazy.
I love it.
She's really killed it.
She's someone who I think does a really good job of being not a trained entertainment journalist.
She straddles it.
She straddles it.
She does a good job.
She does the homework.
She has personality, but she lets other people talk.
It's not, you know, as easy as people think it is.
I can talk to a celebrity.
It's one of the hardest jobs ever.
I agree.
Harder than coal mining.
Listening.
Harder than coal mining. harder than coal mining listen listen
talking to a celebrity as a fan but also as a journalist because keep in mind you get on a
carpet your producer has given you five questions to ask this celebrity, you have to figure out how to ask five questions
in three minutes.
No, that's hard.
You also have to like figure out
how to wean in your own things.
Of course, your personality.
Your personality.
You also have to make a judgment
whether you ask a follow-up to something that they say.
You know, there's all of these protocols.
It's a dance.
It's a dance.
Yeah.
You know, my thing on a red carpet or a junket
was always when someone sat down,
especially if they were kind of new in the game
and kind of, you know, a little hot,
I would always say, hey, before we start,
is there anything that you wanna get out there?
You wanna talk about.
Like, is there like a collect, do you have something?
Yeah, smart, cause then that makes them like you a lot.
And they're like, oh, actually I have a- My passion my passion project yeah i have an album coming out yeah in a week so you
go through the five questions about oh how was it working with michelle pfeiffer and what was it
like getting your costume and then the last question is wow you i saw you sing in this movie
you know would you ever think about like putting on an album and then you hear them oh
yeah well actually yeah and they come out and say it then going back to the office and saying listen
i know we're not gonna normally play this but can we just leave a snippet yep of like he's got an
album coming out yeah and it means the world it means the world to them it means the world to
their publicists it means the world to everyone involved, people on the album.
So you just have to find
ways to connect with people
on those carpets.
Let me ask you a question. I feel like this is a good place
to end it because I think a lot of the people who listen to this
show, like I said at the very beginning, you really have
the dream job and there are so many people who would love to be
where you are. When it comes to
actually tangible advice, something someone
can do. I hate when I ask people for advice and they're like, believe in yourself. No. No, like, where do I believe in myself? No, yeah, yeah. What, when it comes to actually tangible advice, something someone can do. I hate when I ask people for advice
and they're like, believe in yourself.
No, like where do I believe in myself?
What is the most tangible piece of advice
you can give to someone who wants to crack into
like the entertaining, hosting,
entertainment journalist industry?
My best advice would be one,
find someone who's doing the job that you want and figure out how to take it the next step.
So like, what is that person missing?
What is that person not doing?
What is that person not, you know, caught up on?
I love that.
So like for myself, I wanted to be Jason Kennedy.
for myself i wanted to be jason kennedy and i knew that jason kennedy was more into giving you the news and presenting it yep and he didn't want to really open up open up and get into celebrity
gossip and so i was like okay he's doing this the best he's the best at this I'm going to try to do this at E.
And it worked out for me because that's how I went into it.
And I think if you can find a place and find that hole, that's the best thing to do.
Also, like, go out there and tell people you will do it for free.
Do a few for free.
Get your name out there.
Get a reel together.
It's also just good to have experience for your resume. Yeah, 1,000 a real so you like you i don't know because i've never done it is that still how
it's done you have to have a real kind of but you can find by the way there are magazine outlets who
are looking always looking for on air talent if somebody hit you up and said yo i can get carpet
access to this can i I go for the toast?
You would have been like, great.
How much do we have?
What do we have to do?
Get a camera?
And you would be like, great, let's do it.
Just finding those people and those outlets that you can get on those carpets or those one-on-one interviews could really break you.
I love that.
That's very good advice.
Yeah.
You know, it's fun.
It's definitely a dream come true. And that's very good advice. Yeah. You know, it's, it's fun. It's a, it's definitely,
it's definitely a dream come true and it's definitely a blessing. I don't know
how I ended up here, but we're so glad you did. Thank you. I love you. I love you too. This was
so much fun. I could talk to you for hours. Thank you for being here. You guys have to follow Justin
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