The Toast - Las Swirlies Chismosas: Monday, May 20th, 2024

Episode Date: May 20, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good morning, Millennials. Welcome back to the toast, you dirty little whores. Turtle. Sorry, I'm sorry. Wrong foot. Wrong foot. And on Monday we are starting with positivity, sanctity, and appropriateness for children. I'm sorry I wasn't sanctious.
Starting point is 00:00:22 You weren't sanctifying the toast, that's for sure. And you certainly weren't sanctimonious. No, that was not cool of me. I just got overly excited because I'm back with the swirly. Today's a huge, huge day. Happy Monday, first of all, to everyone. Hoping everybody's having an amazing, like a truly amazing Monday. I hope you had an amazing weekend.
Starting point is 00:00:39 Of course, of course. Let's get the nice cities out of the way, okay? Yes. Today's episode is going to be incredible. Do want to let everyone know it is audio only because Trinity Studio is having some construction done to it. So she's working from home and you know what? She's not mad.
Starting point is 00:00:51 She's podcasting from bed. And she just wants to say she's enjoying it. So do with that what you will. PFB, don't get too used to it, last world. All I'm saying is I'm feeling comfortable, feeling comfortable. You're getting comfortable being comfortable I am I kind of love that like why get comfortable being uncomfortable when you can get
Starting point is 00:01:13 comfortable being comfortable we're like as a society we're like obsessed with like feeling uncomfortable discomfort and being cool with that you know I'm not sure but it's also weird because as a society as a society like we're obsessed with like things being safe and sound and people feeling safe. Yet they also have to feel uncomfortable. Make it make sense. I feel like you're not comfortable being uncomfortable, Jackie. That's the vibe that I'm getting from you.
Starting point is 00:01:36 I feel like I'm not uncomfortable. Oh my God. She slayed you once. Don't make her slay you again. Okay, wait. we got off track. So today's an amazing day. Obviously, we're podcasting from home. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:49 But it's also the day that the pre-sale starts for our show. So by the time you're listening to this episode, you'll probably have a little bit of time. The episode's, you know, you probably have a few minutes, honestly. Actually, what the hell do I know? You could be listening to this in 2025. Literally. If you're listening in 2025, hey, how you doing? I hope it's all good over there.
Starting point is 00:02:11 I hope this, I can't even think. I hope it's good with you. I hope it's good with us. I hope we're alive. If you're listening to this in 2025, that means that we're so bussing that people are like listening to old episodes maybe we're on vacation you know so basically blee-eye and hurrah you're listening to this in 2025 blee-eye and hurrah so most likely you're listening to this on may 20th 2024 and if that's
Starting point is 00:02:38 the case if you are a patreon member our pre-sale for our live shows that's right jackson claude are hitting not really the road more like a road we. We are doing live shows in New York City and the Hamptons this summer. We have five shows, two at the Beacon Theater in New York City and three at the West Hampton Performing Arts Center. So yeah, it's giving. You know where I go when we're dancing, handshakes in the Hamptons. And pre-sale begins at 10 a.m. Eastern time on May 20th. That's Monday. That is today for our Patreon members. So head over to patreon.com slash the toast. If you're a member, you'll have all the information, the links, the codes, everything you could
Starting point is 00:03:10 possibly need there. And we cannot wait to see the Swirlies on the road. I actually ran into so many toasters this weekend, just like all over. I went to the Morgan Wong concert. You know, I did my thing in the streets. I see toasters everywhere I go. And usually, you know, it depends what era of, you know, Toast we're in, but they say different things to me.
Starting point is 00:03:27 You know, in the 5K, they were like, good luck at the 5K. And this week. Congrats, grads. No. Well, actually. That's a new one. When we did our Austin meet and greet, everyone who was coming up to us was saying congrats, grads,
Starting point is 00:03:38 which was just like so funny to us. And I love that's what's permeating the swirlies these days. Yeah. But this week when everyone was coming to me they were saying oh my god like I need to get tickets Jackie like I kind of feel like seriously it's gonna be like the talk of the town like in the Hamptons for real it's the talk of the town I mean yeah it's like such a swirly night out in the Hamptons obviously for the swirlies but I also feel like for Hampton nights like oh maybe we should catch a show tonight like
Starting point is 00:04:03 what's playing in town girlyly Swirly Night Out? Let's go. It's going to be so much fun. Guys, make sure to get your tickets. Jax, how are you doing? How was your weekend? I feel like I didn't even catch up with you all weekend. I know.
Starting point is 00:04:14 It was a really busy weekend. I feel like in this moment, and I hope that I'm wrong. Are you getting sick? I feel like I am in the fatigue moment of about to have neuro. That's how I feel right now. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:04:28 Oh my God. Okay, wait, let's take a moment. I know. Let's take a moment. And I'm just like really want to get through this episode before it all comes up. And like if it's going to happen, I need neuro to get on with it because I don't want to feel like this. She's kind of being coy.
Starting point is 00:04:40 She's being coy, like taking her time. Yeah. No, I just don't want to like not know. It's the not knowing. But I do, I feel unbelievably fatigued. And I would say it's more than normal. It's more than just like mom life, you know, et cetera. I would say so.
Starting point is 00:04:57 And I'm also feeling like I have a little bit of anxiety too. And I'm not an anxious swirly, but I'm having, I feel anxious probably because like, I don't know if that's what's coming. You know what I mean? Like I'm not an anxious swirly but I'm having I feel anxious probably because like I don't know if that's what's coming you know what I mean like I'm nervous like even sitting here I'm like do I need a bucket but you know what it's I do want to say I don't want to freak you out but like you do have like a rosy flush to your cheeks I do want to say that I'm I feel it I know that I do oh my god I mean you know Hashem the Lord works in so many mysterious ways thank God we're not doing a camera episode today like that's just what you need well actually I was wearing makeup I could have I could have done a camera episode today if I needed to um I'm still standing in my studio it definitely
Starting point is 00:05:34 is nice having a cozy vibe with the last world I do have my new bins that I got for my studio some of them are empty maybe it'll be a an up chuck buck oh she got you know she was trying to be organized and she ended up throwing up in her bins that's so you yeah so i just want to make it through this episode at the very least make it through the announcements which are tour tour delu we are taking our talents on the road just the grand central uh parkway that's the only road that's the only road we'll be going down it's actually not the gcp it's the lie no it's the lie and it's also like old country road what's that road in the hamptons route 27 take your kicks to route 26 plus one plus one get your kicks oh so yeah if i'm like saying everything incorrectly which i i feel
Starting point is 00:06:26 feel like i can count on one hand like five times already that was another count on one hand like yep yep that means a little like you're gonna say you can count a lot of times right right okay well it's like rewind 10 seconds ago I said like take your kicks on route 26 like yeah first of all it's get your kicks on yeah 66 yep yep we thought you were just being like quirky jacks honestly no these are I am misspeaking because I fear that I am on the cusp of illness or I'm just like really long weekend mom brain fog I hope it's that like really either way let me tell you I'm feeling particularly chatty and I know I always am but like I'm kind of like and I also I have like a little bit of a monologue to deliver if
Starting point is 00:07:16 you're ready to receive it I am ready to receive it to what I didn't even tell you this okay so it's not that crazy I'm like being really dramatic. Also, I am, like I said, podcasting for bed. My heating pad is on, but I turned off my air conditioning because I don't like the sound to be bothering the audio. I'm sweating. Sweating from head to toe. I think you should stay with your heating pad on and your AC off, like kind of in solidarity with me.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Oh, yeah. So we're both feeling like that trickle of sweat. Claudia, so we're both uncomfortable. Being uncomfortable. So we both get comfortable being uncomfortable so the monologue I was being a little too serious but I did want to talk about the fact that I went to the Morgan Wallen concert on Saturday which I'm super excited about my first time ever seeing Morgan Wallen and before I tell you what my thoughts were I wanted to let you know like my headspace going in okay okay and because this is a monologue like am I allowed to ask questions or I'm just of course of course by the way Jackie Jackie this is a dialogue not a lecture it's a monologue and a dialogue oh right I said monologue oh okay yeah of course but I forgot monologue is mono
Starting point is 00:08:14 yeah of course yeah like nobody's asking questions in the vagina monologues open dialogue open dialogue okay okay great so I went in never seeing Morgan Wallen live. Big, big fan of his music. I feel like I've said on the show, I'm not like a big fan of him as a person. Like I am really able to separate the art from the artist. He's not like my king, but I think his music is actually like incredible. Like I know, I knew every song and I went into it with an open mind. You know, I feel like I always go to concerts and whether I like the person, let's say I go in liking someone, I always end up leaving and loving them like I always just end up becoming obsessed with the person like even if I was obsessed I end up leaving 10 times
Starting point is 00:08:49 I was obsessed so I went in with an open heart you know Luke Holmes is my king and I hate when you know you can't talk about with Luke Holmes without talking about Morgan Wall and same you can't talk about Taylor without talking about Beyonce like sorry some things are just true and you have to bring up both so of course I was going into you hold space for both you know I was more so like pitting man against man like I was really thinking you know I wonder how this will compare to Luke I've seen Luke live many times most recently his recent arena tour so it was very similar they play similar venues and I was of course you know just sizing them up you were like coming in kind of like as a Luke mole no but that's the thing like I I really mean it when I say like I came in with
Starting point is 00:09:21 an open heart like I was like I'm ready to be dazzled like I am ready like I'm like I know I'm gonna leave being obsessed and having a hard time holding space for both you know okay I feel like this isn't going the way I thought it was gonna go no let me just tell you something about Morgan Wallen like it's really crazy how far like a good voice and no stage presence will get you like it's really crazy how like he doesn't even compare and it was so crazy because the he doesn't even compare and it was so crazy because the last time I was in that venue was to see the Errors tour and like it was just so different like and you know I always joke like I hate when people talk during concerts like seriously shut up and sing like I'm one of those toxic people I don't need to hear about like the inspo
Starting point is 00:09:57 behind this song but like dead ass Morgan said nothing I was like who like it I guess those conversations are annoying but they create connection like I understand why he just really like his music was so good I think he was you know having some vocal trouble like it just wasn't it wasn't bad by any means because the music the songs are so good but I was just like shocked I was like okay like meh did satchel say how it stacked up to stagecoach because she was really taken with him at stagecoach amazing set life changing and then she went to this concert like was it not the same but I was maybe this an off night when satchel had sent me a video of Morgan Wallen and Post Malone performing at stagecoach like I remember remarking like oh my god this boy can't sing like I remember thinking like damn
Starting point is 00:10:37 vocals not on point but everyone is allowed it's a new song I was like okay whatever no and Margo was like Margo is not as critical let's say that Margo's not you know as pitch perfect as I am and also Margo when she rides for someone she rides hard she cannot see fault I love that about her she blindly stands but in a very healthy way I find I yeah I completely agree but I come into things like as a theater person you know from the arts and I'm very critical of, you know, stage performance. She did go to the College of Arts and Sciences. I didn't actually. I went to the Steinhardt School of Education, but still.
Starting point is 00:11:14 To listen and learn. To listen and learn. But there's a lot of elements to a show of that size. And like I have to say, I was in the pit and I felt like he was really like doing like something to try and connect with the people around him. But I can only imagine what it was like, you know, in the back or up top, like really no connection with the audience. I thought it was so interesting and like flat. OK, well, I need to know from our audience, does that sound like an off night for Morgan Wallen or was that your experience when you saw him, too? And I'm not like a Morgan Wallen hater I just you know like I said I'm very critical of the arts as a thespian and a patron of the theater myself got it okay well I'm glad I didn't
Starting point is 00:11:55 come in for it yeah Jackie was thinking about it but um no it wouldn't have worked out anyway because um my house was sick this weekend so I wouldn't have been able to come but I'm glad that it didn't work out yeah well uh did you have fun yeah of course I have fun wherever I go and like the music is so good like no it wasn't a bad concert by any means but I have a very high bar especially when you're at that level knock your socks off playing MetLife Stadium I'm gonna compare you to Taylor and Luke the people I have personally seen at those stadiums. Yeah. Your socks remained on. Socks stayed firmly on my feet. Got it. Okay. Well, thank you for sharing your truth, Turtle Lou. It's important that I remain honest, vulnerable, and authentic on this show at all times. Yeah. Yeah. That's who we are. Yeah. Yeah. That's who we are. It's what we do. It's what we do-do-do-do-do.
Starting point is 00:12:52 Do-do-do-do-do. Speaking of, how's Ro? Oh, just. Ro-do-do-do-do. Thank you so much for asking after my family. I can't really put into words how much it means, but if I had to, I would say it means the world. He's amazing. We had such a fabulous weekend together. When we went to the concert, he spent the weekend, I mean, spent the evening with his grandparents, which you know he loved. And it was just like a fabulous weekend of Tromeo and, you know, Mom's Angel, you know? Mom's Angel?
Starting point is 00:13:16 Yeah, I know about that life. You were kind enough to ask after my family. How was you and your family? Good. All good. Quiet weekend here. Literally, I feel like the entire where everyone i know has been touched by norovirus like everyone it is in their homes it like
Starting point is 00:13:32 took everyone by storm in this few week period which is actually kind of good because we're all kind of out of commission at the same time but it's actually so crazy and to follow up from what you asked on friday a lot of people did let us know it is more than possible to get notovirus x an exponential the number of limit does not exist and you're gonna keep calling it notovirus even though it's neuro let me tell you i don't even know what the real name is but i like notovirus i like no no virus that's what i used to call it because it'll make you say no we're literally two years old but it it's so funny. But it's no row. And yeah, everybody has been struck down by it. And it's so, so crazy.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Like it just came in with a vengeance. So I spoke to your husband. Did he tell you? No. So I initially. Are you guys trying to get back at me? I initially made contact to hurt you, obviously. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:23 But we ended up having the funniest conversation so one of the new sponsors on this show is splash refreshers do you know what that is yes of course of course and my garage is full of it well so i was like i don't know if you were able to drink them because i was talking to your husband he said he drank all of them and we're like obsessed with these drinks jackie i you know me i can't drink water i swear i've been having like three bottles of water a day. I just ordered more on Instacart. And we're convinced like it's too good to be true. Like the label on the back, like zero sugar, zero.
Starting point is 00:14:50 How? I mean, that's like Diet Snapple. Wait, hold on. What am I hearing? Oh, sorry. I'm crinkling something. Oh, not. Are you kidding me? I'm anxious.
Starting point is 00:15:02 I'm anxious. I'm fidgeting. She's anxious. So I was fidgeting. Do you need a fidget spinner? So I was just like folding this little crinkle. But you're right. Sorry, Ms. Ophelia.
Starting point is 00:15:12 They could have better. Everybody heard it. Oh, my God. No, but you're on my computer audio. They're on my microphone. No, but I'm telling you, there's no way that they didn't hear it. People are going to riot. Guess what?
Starting point is 00:15:22 I don't give a rip. So all that to say was that I wasn't able to turn your husband against you quite yet because we got sidetracked. Be like, we're literally launching an investigation because we think like these drinks are too good to be true. Um, but just know your time is like, don't get, don't get comfortable. Okay. Get uncomfortable. Cause we're coming for you. I have nothing to hide. That's what you think. because we're coming for you I have nothing to hide that's what you think I've got nothing to hide this weekend I finally caught up on summer house I heard people are so excited to hear your takes and I think everyone was like when they could you post it on Instagram that you're caught
Starting point is 00:15:56 up on summer house you're firmly team Lindsay you can't wait to talk about it on Monday and I think people collectively you know breathes a sigh of relief because you do often come out of left field with some of your takes no I feel like being team Lindsay maybe is the dominant team, but it's not a landslide. I saw people in the Facebook group being like, I can't believe Jackie's team Lindsay. She obviously hasn't watched the most recent episode. No, I'm all caught up. And more than that, I went and watched old watch what happens live because I wanted to hear what people had to say about certain things. I am so team Lindsay Lindsay like to the point that watching some of these conversations this season like actually made me angry like I like I genuinely I had so many strong emotional reactions I think
Starting point is 00:16:36 that Carl he's such victim loser energy and more than that so not only is he in the wrong like when it comes to their fights and like their core issues I believe he's in the wrong but the way that he like has gone about everything this season it's like he's trying to start fights create fights and have conversations with other people not with Lindsay to like plant seeds for the viewers so that when he finally ends it with Lindsay it feels justified but I don't know if anybody else can sniff that out from a mile away because also when he has this conversation any conversation with Lindsay has a fight with her her reactions like she's so measured she's so patient the way that I see because those aren't like words I think people would use to describe
Starting point is 00:17:19 her in the past yeah but I watched her and watch what happens live and this is how I felt watching the season like I think their relationship they obviously had a lot of issues but I think she was committed to working through them like yeah she knew that her marriage would be hard and it wouldn't be easy but like Carl is her friend they've been friends for a really long time they could be married like she wants to be married she wants to have a family and like she was going to work hard at her marriage every day like she said on watch what happens live like yeah we had our issues but like I love Carl and I'm a hard worker and like I would have worked for it so like I don't even think a part of her like feels I'm sure now yeah it feels like she dodged a bullet but I think she knew a bullet
Starting point is 00:17:52 was coming the whole time yeah and she was ready to be like you know like deal with the bullet and so I don't know if she's even like so I'm sure like everything happens for a reason so I'm sure she's like fine with how things have turned out. But like it's not like she thought her relationship was great. She was just going to like life gave her lemons and she was going to make lemonade like come hell or high water. And Carl is just like such a victim like everything an excuse for everything. And when he talks to Lindsay like she's so measured she gives him like not the reaction he's expecting. Or the one I think he's looking for to make her look crazy.
Starting point is 00:18:24 him like not the reaction he's expecting or the one I think he's looking for to make her look crazy crazy and then he just references fights that we haven't seen like the one in the uber where he's like you said this and I've seen him so many times exaggerate what she said that when he said like you accused me of doing drugs like I know that she didn't do that I know that she asked him what are you on in a way of just asking like have you smoked weed because he does smoke weed so I think there's like and I feel like that's the thing that Lindsay is getting like saying what are you on in a fight with someone you also means like doesn't accuse that's not mean doesn't mean you're accusing someone of using drugs that sometimes is a paraphrase for like you sound crazy what are you on no but also it's like you could be on uh I don't know melatonin like it doesn't mean that
Starting point is 00:19:01 like you've relapsed and I think she's really being like crucified for that comment because we didn't get to see it. But I think actually in context, it probably wasn't nearly what we think it was, especially considering I've seen we've seen him exaggerate the things that she says throughout this season. So I also feel like he picks fights with her when she's drunk so that she will have that sort of big reaction because everybody gets dramatic that is so manipulative by the way yeah and then he also says and people will be like well you know he liked Lindsay when she was sober for six months I think that meant a lot to him but he also says like Lindsay doesn't have a drinking problem and
Starting point is 00:19:39 she doesn't she drinks a lot on the show but like then sometimes she doesn't you know not everyone who drinks a lot like has a drinking problem and the way she but like, then sometimes she doesn't, you know, not everyone who drinks a lot, like has a drinking problem. And the way she like behaves when she's drunk, doesn't signal, she likes to drink. She's, it's a summer house. She's on a reality show. Like, okay, if she doesn't have a drinking problem, go off queen.
Starting point is 00:19:56 And I feel like every time she's drunk, he's like, like counting how many drinks that she's had. And then also tries to have hard conversations with her. And it's like, why would anybody want to do that two drunk people a sober person and a drunk person like why would anyone want to have conversations when emotions are heated and all of that can I ask you a question about this season because obviously I know like the Carl and Lindsay stuff but I'm so super curious because I've seen a lot of discourse around Danielle what is her role in all of this? Because she was like Lindsay's best friend
Starting point is 00:20:25 and then ex-friend and then Carl. And you thought when they would get, when her and Carl break up, her and Danielle are cool. So actually Danielle- And then I saw this thing about her being drunk and saying she's a CEO. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:35 So Danielle has kept her nose out of Carl and Lindsay's situation. And I think it's been very hard for her. And I think she even said like, I have so much I want to say I'm bursting, but I won't because of last summer. So like Danielle is kind of- What's worse than that?
Starting point is 00:20:48 Somebody saying I'm not going to get involved, but then they're like, I have a lot to say, but I'm not getting involved. But like her new circle of girly swirlies, remember last season they like took her in and they were like, you're so mean to Danielle.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Paige, Ciara, Amanda. They're like, you know, you're so mean to Danielle. Like, this is so sad. Oh, how they've turned on her. Literally, Paige said in her conventional, Lindsay, you can have your friend back. We don't want her.
Starting point is 00:21:10 And so much so that- Danielle has the worst vibes, always. So much so that Amanda even said, and Paige said too, I think we were wrong last summer about Danielle. So like, first of all- She was so fucking crazy last summer. I just want to say that's like unprecedented that this ever
Starting point is 00:21:25 happened and we like unpopularly took Lindsay's side so I just want to say like chickens have come home to roost told you it took some time but the wheels of justice turned nicely no we were so firmly team Lindsay last summer and it was so unpopular Danielle was so fucking insane and unhinged like at that engagement party screaming crying throwing up making everything about her truly like even if really just one of the most unwell and people like rode for her so hard and I think that that's so funny I need to catch up on the season because I had heard so many good things you do need to catch up in the season there are a lot of dynamics at play so Danielle's kind of alienating herself from the girls like per usual but last season I guess was
Starting point is 00:21:59 an anomaly and then also I thought you were going to ask me about Kyle and Amanda I've seen a lot about that too he called her a fucking bitch yeah he did the to me it's like that's not even the issue like wait that's not funny I don't know why I'm laughing sorry it was just the way you said yeah yeah I don't know why like people are harping on that but like my their issues are what is the issue to me but they're interesting to me because like sometimes I'm like why are these two people married these people yeah hate each other they do not like each other they can't stand each other like there's never like a nice moment no that's the thing there are some nice moments that are surprising for two people who
Starting point is 00:22:36 don't like each other so I'm like oh maybe they do like each other there's obviously something we're not seeing because like they're not divorced right now. She doesn't watch Raven's Live and like she talks like openly talks shit about him. And it's just like the truth and it's funny and they're like fine. I feel like it kind of might be better than like having feelings and not saying them. But also I think like so many people I've seen comparing it to Kyle. I mean to Ariana and Tom because they're like Kyle's so toxic and Ariana can't see it. Like kind of how like Tom was um but I feel like the difference is like Amanda will tell you to your face like yeah her husband's the worst whereas like Ariana would have died on they were like
Starting point is 00:23:14 hiding they were hiding and so the fact that Kyle and Amanda aren't hiding like married people fight married people have issues married people disagree on big life things and I think that's what's happening like that's actually normal and healthy and the fact that they're not hiding it makes me feel like they don't have something to hide. If they had this big. Like clearly Tom and Ariana's relationship was deteriorating for like a long period of time before the actual affair happened. And they'll admit that now. But on the show it was like never ever discussed. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:39 They never even had a fight. I don't see it as the same. But I also feel like Amanda's friends even though they're like there, there was this huge conversation between Paige, Sierra and Kyle, where they like roasted him. And as much as like, they told him hard truth. Like, I feel like they actually, they like him and, and they support their relationship. Like there's something good about their, their relationship that I don't think we see on camera where they like, make a lot of sense and they work because they're still together. So the, the biggest issue was like Amanda literally going to him and being like, I want to do something for me. And I, a lot of sense and they work because they're still together yeah so the the biggest issue was like
Starting point is 00:24:05 Amanda literally going to him and being like I want to do something for me and I what she was saying was ever since I've been doing a summer house with you guys I've always been Kyle's girlfriend or Kyle's fiance or Kyle's now wife and I think what she really means is like since being on the show she's never done her own thing like think about her presence as an influencer like she's just like Kyle's wife and she does love her and she does love her boy and she doesn't like have her own stuff going on and like and now she said like I want that I want to have confidence I want to do my own thing and he was like and he's like no I need you at lover boy and she's like no I'll still help you with stuff but like I want to do other
Starting point is 00:24:38 stuff too she he was and he's like no I like literally no it was so crazy that he would even say no like that but you want to know why I actually think a lot of like the aesthetic and the design and all of it he said he said all of it is her it's her I think she's like extremely talented and extremely creative and I think a lot of the brand like the brand book is her vision come to life it is no it is he says that she says that everybody knows that and so she said I'm not even going to stop helping but like I want to do something else and he's like no but like your wife is unhappy everyone deserves to have something for themselves not just like work for you and living your shadow no I think Kyle's like most toxic trait and I think what comes between like all of his relationships now including his wife is his obsession with his company like it supersedes everything yeah it's
Starting point is 00:25:23 true and also on a person like so professionally like he won't let her spread her wings and fly or like compromise. And then personally, like she wants to move to the suburbs and he says no. And then the, so that's just like, okay, bro, like give her the suburbs and then maybe she'll help you more with lover boy. She's like happy in her backyard.
Starting point is 00:25:38 Maybe she won't like want to be like going to meetings in the big city and that's, you could both win. But also my biggest no amongst the saying she can't do anything for herself issue with him is he goes out till 4 a.m he's 41 years old so the thing is it's so important when talking he's always like the drunkest girl at the party yeah in the city when even when they're not filming he's out with people till 4 a.m when they're in the hamptons like she's home and he doesn't need to stay home with her like she's with her friends and like he likes to go out and they're filming a show so that doesn't bother me as much but like why like she says on a weeknight are you
Starting point is 00:26:12 out until 4 a.m and also complaining about your running your business you're so busy right you burn the candle at both ends no I think also last season that was like so obvious when like a lot of the girls the new girls who were really into partying were literally 22 like that girl Samantha was so young Kyle's 40 and he's up later than them or he's alone with them also is why isn't Sam on the show like why aren't Sam and Corey on the show they would have been great like yeah and then maybe by the way a lot of people are like thinking that there's something going on between Amanda and Jesse Solomon okay so I saw that while I was before I caught up I saw that and I was like so excited because I love Amanda I love Jesse Solomon like that's it's giving scandal we should yeah you know I know she's a married woman but
Starting point is 00:26:53 like it's highly entertaining Claudia I didn't see one lick of it I didn't see a smile or a comment like Jesse's nice to I would say I would of course he admitted that he had a like he liked Paige the first week out there and then everyone who't stop stop that yeah and he said the same thing he's like yeah she's a pretty girl I would think sooner he has a holds a candle for Sierra I would think sooner than that yeah and do everyone's obsessed with Wes do you like him I do like Wes as a character and finally we have solid single guys in the house like Wes and Jesse Solomon like please stay in the house some interesting guys who don't just like work out the whole time in the Hamptons and have bad personalities like they get along with each other they get along with everyone
Starting point is 00:27:32 like Wes and Sierra are really cute I love Sierra's approach to being in a relationship and dealing with this man who like is really into her but like won't won't give her like a little bit more you know what I mean like he wants to like cuddle and make out and hook up like the whole summer but like she wants more than that and like she's asking for it and I just I just she's got her head on straight and it's so refreshing to see someone like that the thing about summer house when it comes to the girls is that they carry the show and they always have but it's really particularly fabulous to watch a show of such beautiful oh yeah stylish funny like they've got it all they're beautiful stunning and smart like
Starting point is 00:28:10 it's really it's a treat it's a treat and then also what's so funny about the show is the whole show it's like literally everyone has conversations in private and then they have them again in public right and then they break off and do them again in private like every dinner is like a referendum on someone's relationship. And they're all sitting around like it's group couples counseling, except the counselors are also in terrible relationships. It's the craziest thing.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Everyone offering like unsolicited advice when they have a terrible track record in relationships. But it's just so wild how like you can't have a conversation with your husband or your boyfriend without it being like table fodder and that's just okay and most of the time it's fine also this is a show so we're going to talk about things but like there were some there's like a conversation between like Amanda and Kyle that's like a marital spat and it was so weird that it was happening in front of that is really really
Starting point is 00:28:57 weird like some things can be private it's like Danielle saying to Paige about her relationship like saying like you give Craig nothing well she was also just being, like, a wench. But, like, who are you to, and then also it's, like, other people, like, Kyle giving Carl relationship advice. It's, like, bro, like, your wife is crying. Stop. The blind leading the blind. It's, the show is the blind leading the blind when it comes to relationships. Or, like, people talking about, like, West and Sierra's blossoming relationship and, like, what they should do.
Starting point is 00:29:24 I'm, like, you shouldn't listen to any of these people. No, it's so true. Like everybody needs to just mind their P's and Q's. Except for Paige, because her advice is on point and her counsel is on point. Obsessed with her and Craig. Obsessed with her and Craig.
Starting point is 00:29:35 Just seriously, like obsessed. I really do wonder though, who's going to move and not when I'm sure like, whatever. I'm sure that's the most annoying question, but I always thought Paige would move to Charleston. that would be the plan and it hasn't happened because she doesn't want to yet but then on watch what happens live there was a poll and everyone voted
Starting point is 00:29:52 that like Craig was gonna move to New York first and Paige was like yeah well I think that's more like less about like their schedules and their lives and more just about the fact that like you know Craig I think would seriously like lay his life out on the line for me like we're obsessed like he's yeah like as a good husband should by the way I'm not fucking moving yeah yeah but when you think about like their schedules and their lives yes no she can really they can spend the summers in the Hamptons like she could still do summer house if she lived in Charleston could he still do Southern Charm if he lived in New York no and like if she goes to Charleston there's a job for her there on Southern Charm if he lived in New York? No. And like if she goes to Charleston, there's a job for her there on Southern Charm. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:29 She'd be on two shows. And then they could both, they could really snowboard. They could, they really could do half and half. And Paige is like a full-time content creator. And there are, you know, so many gigs and opportunities. Like being in New York, you just, you make more money and you get more opportunities so I think that they can spend like 60 40 like New York Charleston so I think they do that right now but it's not based on the season it's just like based on the days of the week and it's not
Starting point is 00:30:54 official yeah so yeah I'm very I'm happy oh yeah they're very happy I'm very invested and like summer's coming up so what what's going to happen? And I feel like this summer, like everyone will be back. Oh, and you know who I love? And I am sad that I didn't mention her sooner. Gabby. Like I absolutely love her. It took a while to get to know her,
Starting point is 00:31:17 especially because she leads with like all that astrology stuff. And it's seriously so hard not to roll your eyes and turn off the TV. But you have like just an aside. I had a lot of respect for her last season when she didn't like immediately join the cool girl crew and they were all turning against Lindsay and like bringing. She stood firmly on team Lindsay like and it wasn't popular. And I think she just like had a like like went on what she thought was right and fair. Not like the viewers would think.
Starting point is 00:31:42 She has a good friendship with Lindsay. She's actually like a pretty good bridge. But like Lindsay's getting along swimmingly with the girls and also Carl this is classic Carl victim energy he's like talking about how he doesn't talk to other people about his issues with Lindsay because like she would get mad if if he were talking about their issues with other people like he's scared of her I think he literally said something to that effect like I'm afraid he said like I'm afraid of her like meanwhile every weekend Lindsay goes out and she's telling the girls everything not in a bad way like opening up to her friends sort of way like Lindsay is being like so honest about their relationship not sugarcoating it whatsoever not demonizing Carl just like airing her frustrations not hiding
Starting point is 00:32:21 anything from the cameras or from the house like what who who are you talking about kyle like he's carl he's literally talking about a person that is not his fiance right and he wishes that it it was so that he could look like the good guy when he leaves and he does not look like the good guy and i guess there are some people who disagree and maybe are like kind of no offense like naive and buying what Carl is selling yeah yeah and I and they're gonna be like Jackie how could you like I am so firm on this nothing's ever been clearer oh wow nothing's ever been clearer um I'm so glad that you're all caught up you're making me definitely want to watch I can't mean to call you and say that you have to watch okay by the way I way, I'm on it. And they just taped their reunion.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Looking forward to that. And I'm looking forward to the Fast Five. You've got five fabulous stories for me. Is that correct? I do, I do. Yeah, actually, we have a lot of stories today. I would say the theme of today's story is our romance. Oh, my God.
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Starting point is 00:38:02 thank you Fashion Pass for sponsoring today's episode. Thank you, Lost World. You're welcome. Our first story is actually the big news from the weekend. Really, really crazy, frightening news. A video came out. Oh my God. Video on Friday came out of Diddy. Footage from 2016 at a hotel
Starting point is 00:38:23 that shows him shoving and kicking his ex-girlfriend Cassie so the video shoving and kicking is like so not even abusing yelling there's no sound in the video but I'm sure most of you have seen it by now and if you haven't grabbed her by the neck he slams her on the floor he chases her out of the hotel room in his towel she's leaving like hooded she had said like they in the lawsuit she had said that she left the room because like he gave her a black eye and then he fell asleep so she snuck out but he woke up and he came and like chased her down and is abusing her and the video is is graphic and it's it's extremely clear what's going on and there's so much to unpack from it because you have to understand like to act that way in a
Starting point is 00:39:04 public space now it's a hotel room but to understand like to act that way in a public space now it's a hotel room but it's still the hallway that's public space public domain I can only imagine what sort of atrocities were happening behind closed doors the hate I have in my heart for this man is so insane I think he's the most low-life piece of shit disgusting animal on the planet fuck him that video he put out I'm taking responsibility yeah who the fuck else bitches like and it's literally the definition of you're not sorry you're sorry you got caught like no honestly he can eat my fucking ass I hate this man I didn't think the situation could like make me any angrier until he put out this video that had my blood boiling he said it's so difficult to reflect on the darkest times in
Starting point is 00:39:40 your life sometimes you got to do that I was fucked up I mean I hit rock bottom but I make no excuses my behavior on that video was inexcusable like if you think for one second anyone thinks that that was an isolated incident and that was the worst of it that was rock bottom that's how you behaved outside of the room like yep like he'd be better off not releasing a video what he should do is sell his assets hoard his money, sell his assets while they are worth something, save his money, and go live a quiet life and pray he doesn't end up in jail. No, like in a country with a non-extradition, whatever it's called, because if this video exists, and how sick to think about this video existed, what is it, 2016? That's eight years.
Starting point is 00:40:24 exists and you have sick to think about this video existed what is it 2016 that's eight years I don't know what happened in the world of Diddy that caused this one particular video to get released and I'm sure it is a part of evidence that like Cassie probably spent years putting together I'm sure there's tons of other footage like this I don't know what the hell happened to make this one video and this probably isn't even the worst of it. I'm not sure why we're seeing this video, but the fact that this hotel had the video, gave it to like, so many things had to happen and it took eight years for this video to see the light. Like how many people were involved in covering this? That really makes me sick.
Starting point is 00:40:56 I only wish genuinely the most miserable life for this prick. May, seriously, you, seriously, it was such a fucking upsetting video and I feel like there have been a couple of videos and it's always like elevator footage or um security footage from a hotel that have come out about public figures I feel like I I remember one of and like certain ones like stick with you I remember that NFL guy it was he was just so big and she was so small like it was so the difference in their sizes was so like obvious in the video and it's something you
Starting point is 00:41:31 like never forget I don't I just watch this video I don't even know what I was watching at first I might not have even chosen to watch it but it will stick with me it horrified me to my core I will never forget it yeah rotten like seriously rotten hell you low I don't even have words pat the thing about the reason why it's so I'm actually shocked that he put out a video apologizing taking accountability like there's no you can't show your face there's no path back to polite society like none whatsoever the civilized we remain over here you are not a part of us you you actually cannot sit with us right like i can't believe that he showed his face and like and for what there's no brave there's
Starting point is 00:42:11 nothing that's going to even if like i don't know for shareholders or something like this moves no needle no needle has been moved in fact it made it move the needle backwards for me that like oh you really think that like this is something that can be apologized for no him saying I take full responsibility like who else it's he was you we saw no it's not funny but like the fact that it's that that that anybody that he or the people around him like thought like okay well so we'll put out an apology video like that that would mean anything to anyone is no it proves how really um nuts he is like and men like that even men who aren't um like famous and wealthy and who are abusers like they're sick in the head they think they're fucking like stars yeah and he probably
Starting point is 00:42:58 has like a god complex for being like so successful so many years and getting away with so much star like he is the worst of the worst who then became a successful godlike figure in culture. I can really only imagine how fucking evil to his core he is. Like seriously. Low life. Oh my god. And you know what? I hate to like bring this up.
Starting point is 00:43:21 But it does make so like and I think a lot of people have thought this for a while. But like you know the mysterious death of Kim Porter his longtime wife or girlfriend um it just makes everything you know questionable now no I don't know actually you don't know Kim Porter no so after Cassie I'm just googling so I have the exact right she passed away in 2018. She was a model and she dated P. Diddy for, let me tell you how long. I'm on Wikipedia. They said that her, the coroner's office said her death was the result of low bar pneumonia. But friends of hers have insinuated that that's not the case. She had an on and off relationship with rapper and record executive Sean Combs.
Starting point is 00:44:08 They had a son, Christian Combs, and twin daughters. And they were like on and off since like the early 2000s. So a friend of hers also wrote, she was just about to turn in a book she wrote about her life and then she suddenly just died. Pneumonia can be faked so easily by a doctor at the morgue there are a lot of and I think there have always been like like people just being like oh this is weird like a young beautiful healthy mother doesn't just you know vanish you know and and I think for so long there were so many rumors about
Starting point is 00:44:38 Diddy and then in the last year it's like come to light that and even Cassie's lawsuit with him was all like under wraps because they settled out of court um so there was like never really anything firm but like weird vibes no like Kim Porter and no there's so much more here and it's sick it's really sick plus all the federal stuff the human trafficking right the parties yeah but to like it's this is so personal yeah and and just the sheer fact that it was done like in a public square like seriously sends a chill down my spine yeah yeah well we'll keep you posted i'm going out of my way to like not if i'm in a restaurant they're playing that music i'm leaving like. Like that's how mad I am.
Starting point is 00:45:25 No, like if there's a Ciroc at the bar, goodbye. No, I want this man cut out of culture. Like for real. Yeah, for real. For real. You will not catch me. And if somebody, if you guys see me listening to a song,
Starting point is 00:45:37 you say, oh, Claudia, did you know Sean Diddy produced that? Because I might not know that. Please let me know. I will not literally ever fuck with this man well frightening but are you ready for our next story yes i'm gonna just switch gears they said romance news yeah sorry now we'll get to the romance news okay thank you switching gears because the rest do follow a pattern okay but this is shocking i know i said on the show literally a week ago and then the universe was like okay we'll shocking. I know I said on the show literally a week ago and then the universe was like,
Starting point is 00:46:06 okay, we'll show you. I know I said I couldn't be moved by any celebrity breakup news that it wouldn't actually shock me, you know, in my personal life. Yeah, like there's nobody out there currently that you're riding for. It wasn't even about riding.
Starting point is 00:46:18 It was about like caring, enough to care. Caring enough to care. And this wasn't even a couple I cared that much about. Who are you talking about? Rumor is that ben affleck and jay low are splitting up and the way i was shocked literally my reaction was no okay by the way yeah i'm sorry that we're talking about this because it's unconfirmed but there are rumors that like it's like there's a lot of separate lives there's a lot of rumors swirling amongst the swirlies um and let me just tell you i'm tired of rumors swirlies you couldn't write something funnier than like we've been talking
Starting point is 00:46:51 about j-lo's flop era and so many of like the the core moments of her flop era and i think like things we could look on are like those two movies she released and the first was like that self-funded thing and it was like a live studio album it was all about the heart factory it was like and it was like a metaphor of her relationship so it's like she went out on a limb and like self-funded this project and like people ripped her to shreds for it but it was all in the name of love but now her and this man are no longer and then her documentary which went viral for all negative reasons you know when my hair is nice and wild like this I remember like I'm back in the Bronx and I'm just free and like it really started this hate train for J-Lo. But there were so many things in the documentary that people pointed out
Starting point is 00:47:28 about her relationship being really toxic and Ben Affleck really not being able to talk to her on like a human level because she's so, she like, you know, what's the phrase when like you think you're so great you like eat your own shit? Drinks your own Kool-Aid? you so much you would literally work in my brain you're a little woman and you sit in my brain and you just like know everything thank you yeah like she just drinks her own kool-aid and like you literally can't talk to her oh interesting because the only person that i know who watched that documentary was olivia ashrae who came away with it with such a love for ben and jen like but let me tell you olivia ashrae is so special because the thing about Olivia Oshry is to her core she's a fucking hater she could find something to hate about like the most delightful thing and that's literally one of my favorite qualities
Starting point is 00:48:12 about her because I'm the same way but she like hates on the most random things like it's never the obvious thing for Olivia like so you're saying when something is hateable actually Olivia's going to love it because with Olivia she's never gonna she's not a lead she's not a follower she's a leader she's a thought leader in her community you can't tell Olivia Oshry who to hate for sure but like I didn't feel like Olivia Oshry came to that conclusion by way of proving people wrong like I feel like she genuinely watched it and her takeaway was like they are have an amazing relationship like their love so beautiful. It's an amazing thing to see. Let me also say that a lot of the hate comes from like snarky Gen Z TikTok.
Starting point is 00:48:49 And I do feel like Olivia Oshry perhaps is like the target demo for JLo. Like Olivia grew up in an era where the JLo music like seriously was a soundtrack to her childhood age wise. I think that like Olivia is a real believer in love and like fairy tales. And that's so JLo. I actually think like I had a real believer in love and like fairy tales and that's so JLo I actually think like I had never thought about it before but I think Olivia stands JLo perhaps she does but let's get to the news at hand but I do want to say I do feel like a lot of my strength and belief in their relationship like came from just Olivia's she didn't even know it
Starting point is 00:49:21 but she just like mentioned that oh like they're OTP and I took that as fact so then to come to find out your older sister has like such an influence on you I love that yeah yeah I didn't I don't know why I wouldn't you must feel about me like that's how you must feel about me bitch no no like you feel that like it's so beautiful that my older sister has an older has an influence on me oh yeah yeah I feel that way about you feeling that way about me thank you yeah I said it in a confusing way about you feeling that way about me. Thank you. Yeah, I said it in a confusing way. Thank you for taking ownership of that
Starting point is 00:49:48 and accepting accountability. It's a pleasure. Anyways, rumors at hand are that their marriage is on the rocks. He left his wedding band behind on Friday in photos obtained by TMZ as he was pulling up to his child's recital and cameras caught him
Starting point is 00:50:04 when he lifted his left hand while driving, revealing that he was pulling up to his child's recital and cameras caught him when he lifted his left hand while driving, revealing that he was without his ring. No, not wearing a ring literally means nothing I need as a society, even though I'm a man, actually. I take it back. Ben, does your husband ever take off his wedding ring? Like shower, pool, sleep?
Starting point is 00:50:19 I don't think so. Ben's offer has never taken off his wedding ring except one time he was playing with it waiting for the subway and it fell into the tracks and then we had to get a new one and that was the last time he ever took it off I actually don't even know if it would come off so for a man it actually feels a little bit more intentional they don't take off jewelry on and off like we do for workouts and stuff okay but I feel like for Ben Affleck like wearing one piece of jewelry every day is hard for him like he doesn't seem like a jeweler he seems jewelry
Starting point is 00:50:43 adverse and this is just me one making excuses i want me making excuses for sure and like being in denial which is where i am no you're saying like ben affleck kind of feels like a slob right yeah like i feel like he doesn't like he would be like i don't want this on me you know like he's like angry like i'm wearing my aura ring shout out aura ring for sending me this and like i'm hating every like i'm so aware that i'm wearing it and I and I want to take it off but the point is you have to sleep with it um and I love or this is amazing I think I hit my activity goal for the day I love ordering but I do feel and relate to Ben Affleck by way of saying like I don't like wearing my ring I don't really like wearing jewelry I take my jewelry off the minute that I
Starting point is 00:51:23 can and sometimes I run out the door I would say more often than not I'm not wearing my ring all right so Jackie call it for me do you think that the rumors of them splitting up are real I also think that these two are a couple she's avoiding the question no no I'm getting I'm giving you all of the she's getting there the thought processes that go behind my answer I also feel like this is a couple they remind me of like Jen and Brad, where they're always going to be headlines about them. Like they could literally be so happy, married for 50 years, picket fence, grandkids,
Starting point is 00:51:53 and people are like, they're on the rocks. They're tabloid fodder. That's a really good way of putting it. So, and given what Olivia said, and me being optimistic and in denial, I'm saying they're not splitting up. All right. We'll check back in.
Starting point is 00:52:11 Why don't you say, Jackie, if you're listening in the year 2025, I wonder if we were right. Okay, not splitting up right now. Like maybe they'll split up in six months, but like I don't think that this is it. And why don't you call that they are splitting up. So either way, like the toast was right. I don why don't you call that they are splitting up so either way like the toast was right I don't I do think that they are splitting up but what do you actually think like I could see it you know like the news it wasn't the craziest thing to me like I could definitely see it oh like to me it was the craziest thing I could read that day
Starting point is 00:52:41 and who would have thunk who'd thunk who to thunk our next story is a little more relationship news as promised Kendall Jenner and Bad Bunny are fueling some reconciliation rumors as rumors report that they're having fun together so she was spotted at his concert over the weekend and apparently are they are spending time together when they can a source told entertainment tonight there's always a strong connection between them whenever they're together and they have the same chemistry that they've always had this thing like such big news and i was like what's the big fucking deal they were together for like a little while and they were just spotted after the met gal it's like they're obviously back together what's the big deal why
Starting point is 00:53:21 are people freaking out and people like well are they or aren't they? They are. Like what? She went to his concert. You don't go to like your long term ex's concert and they were together after the Met Gala. Do you think that's where they got back together? No, I think that they had been like chatting. Do you think they ever broke up? Yeah. Did they say they did? They don't say shit. They never even said they were together. I'm so not invested in this. Like if they're together, that's amazing. Oh, they broke up?
Starting point is 00:53:49 I hope they're both fine happiness. This isn't anything I like feel really any way about strongly, negatively, or positively. Like good, good, good, good. Can I say something crazy? I don't think it's that crazy. I don't think it's that crazy. But I feel like Kendall, and I chip this. I want this to be and I want Kendall find love and be happy actually no matter with whom I don't know Mr. Bunny so like I just want her to be happy by herself with someone else
Starting point is 00:54:13 whatever like I'm coming at this from a place of like oh my god just say it you know you just you just have to cover all your bases before you say something like I'm about to say I feel like she's always in on off relationships there's always on and offness and I feel like not every like not everyone's like that do you know what I mean yeah like sometimes you just break up with the person you never see them again or sometimes you don't and you get married like yeah but like on off on off with like everyone it's not good yeah yeah I was thinking something differently like what do you think it's like to be kendall jenner just in the sense that like oh there's like a new tv show or like a new whatever and there's like this hot guy and like like any guy in the world you could have like like seriously
Starting point is 00:54:54 any single one i think it's a lot of pressure okay do you think there's a man on earth who a straight man on earth who wouldn't like have a date with her wouldn't want to go on a date yeah uh well there's always like one of anything people are seriously mentally ill these days you know it's true it's true it's a good point but like I just I wonder like that power what that must be like I feel like I think it's a lot of pressure I think and I imagine that's a part of like a lot of the anxiety she feels and you know she doesn't like always go for the obvious choice. Like obviously she dated Harry Styles. That's like the most obvious one.
Starting point is 00:55:29 But other than that I feel like she gets creative. Like who in the world was Ben Simmons you know? Yeah. Devin Booker is not a nobody. He's not a nobody but he's like a short king and he was on like kind of a random team. Kind of yeah. He was on the Lakers like or the Knicks or the Mavericks. It's not like it's not like
Starting point is 00:55:46 danilo gallinari no right i mean that's the thing if i was kendall jenner i would be married to danilo gallinari right if you were kendall jenner who would you like tell your publicist you want to date with joe manginello oh really yeah who would you tell your publicist elon okay yeah she really is sick oh my god i literally knew kendall and elon shit i could see it i could see it i could see it too anyways they're back together i'm happy about that I want them to stay together is that too much to ask I can't deal with all I can't deal with all this like it's willy-nilly not from her like and them just in general even Ben and Jen yeah but that's more so like tabloid culture like maybe nothing's going on with either of them maybe they Kendall and Jen Kendall and Bad Bunny what's his real name Kendall and Bad never broke up and maybe Ben and Jen are. What's his real name? Kendall and Bad never broke up. And maybe Ben and Jen are fine.
Starting point is 00:56:46 What is his real name? I know it. I feel like it's like Chris. No, but like when I say it, we're going to be like, oh, yeah. I mean, as a tostada myself, I really should know that. Benito. Oh, I did know that. Benito Antonio Martinez Ocasio.
Starting point is 00:57:06 We, I just learned a new word in Spanish that I feel like we should start adding into our everyday life. I know, chisme. Chisme. But so chisme means gossip, which is obviously something we're proficient at. But there's like a little nickname. Hold on, I need to, I forgot it already.
Starting point is 00:57:18 Chisme. For like a little girl who gossips a lot, like gossip girl. Chismita? Something like the ch meat oh hold on cheese my nickname i just have to google it because somebody is so funny yeah cheese why am i having such a hard time cheese melita i think it's cheese meter oh cheese mo sas
Starting point is 00:57:43 cheese mo sas That's us. Cheese mozas. Oh, can you be... Los cheese mozas. Okay, but what if you're a singular cheese moza? Oh, cheese moza. La cheese moza. Las cheese mozas. Las swirlies cheese mozas.
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Starting point is 01:01:13 Okay, our next story, super cute relationship news. Finally, like some consistency and some steadfastness and loyalty around here. Finally. Travis Kelsey reveals his favorite song off of taylor swift's new album and he revealed his top three favorite taylor songs at the moment all of which are extremely telling so he hosted his kelsey jam this weekend the second year of his music festival with his brother the other kelsey um in kansas city featuring performances by lil wayne diplo two chains speaking exclusively with people at the event,
Starting point is 01:01:45 he revealed his not so surprising favorite song off of TTPD. He said, I might be a little biased to So High School, but that's the one. And then he said his top three Taylor songs are Blank Space, The Alchemy, and then So High School. But if The Alchemy is number two, why isn't it his number one from the album? I think maybe the second question was like in no particular order you know no but I do feel like blank space is his fave but maybe I agree but that two and three are interchangeable but definitely blank space is his fave he like lights up when that one comes on at arrows right yeah yeah he does I love that he's like not growing tired of being asked about her because I think
Starting point is 01:02:23 people who like have their own things are always like so like I'm so much more than like Taylor Swift. Like you are but we don't give a fuck. No it's so true. It's such an attractive quality. Yes. If you had ever asked Joe Alwyn like a question about Taylor Swift you'd be like well my films.
Starting point is 01:02:40 Like nobody gives a fuck about you and your fake films. You literally wouldn't because you'd be like blackballed from his press tour yes for the future like no one would actually do that that's like a lot of relationship and I do think it goes both ways men not wanting to talk about women and women not wanting to talk about men but like you love this person it's fun like let's just have some fun no and for me as always like it's extremely gendered like yeah don't ask the girl about her boyfriend like we literally don't care. But like a guy being asked and like being so excited and proud of his girl, especially if his girlfriend's like more like famous and successful than him, like and not being weird about it.
Starting point is 01:03:13 Like that, you're right. It's such an attractive quality. I feel like it represents like a real sense of security. And like we're going to stand always and forever. But no, like let's talk about your dumb movie, Joal, when your period peaks again. He made the same movie like six times. But no like let's talk about your dumb movie Joe Alwyn. Your period piece.
Starting point is 01:03:24 Again he made the same movie like six times. Yeah but I also think like when you're so secure in who you are. Like I feel like with Joe Alwyn it's like if they asked about Taylor they wouldn't stop asking about Taylor. Right because like at the end of the day Joe Alwyn seriously wasn't famous for anything. I know he had been in movies. Yeah but he wasn't not successful. No but he wasn't a person whose name. He would have just been like a British actor who shows up in random things like nobody would know his actual name yeah I just think Travis is like really secure
Starting point is 01:03:53 in who he is so he doesn't mind if the conversation is not always about him and as stated that's an attractive quality yeah like at the end of the day I think the whole theme of Travis and his relationship with Taylor was like it's not that serious. He doesn't have to think about every question. Like he got to ask a question and he'll answer. The end. But like it is serious. Patty Stanger said that he should be proposing by July. So there are rumors that they're engaged.
Starting point is 01:04:15 But like they're like, you know. I mean, you know where's a great place to get engaged? Paris or Laco de Como? Or Sweden, you know, like. Or Sweden. No, but he wasn't in Sweden. He went back for Kelsey Jam. Kelsey Ballerini Jam?
Starting point is 01:04:31 Yeah, yeah, yeah. They should have her perform. Thousand percent. I'd perform. No, no, no, but you're not Kelsey Jam. No, no, but I have two hit songs, so I would do it if they wanted me to. But I'm probably like busy.
Starting point is 01:04:44 Yeah, or is it not also like a podcast festival? No I think it's music. But they're a podcast. Is it his or with his brother? With his brother and they've been doing it since before the podcast. Got it. Well they should add a podcast component and then actually we'd be eligible.
Starting point is 01:05:00 And then maybe if they had a business that they would care about but they would know what it's like but they don't. But they do and they still don't. Right. They have a business that they would care about, but they would know what it's like, but they don't. But they do and they still don't. Right. They have a business, but they still don't care. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? Yes. It's something I need to break down with you.
Starting point is 01:05:16 Okay. It's food news. It is food news, technically. Okay. McDonald's is adding a sad option to replace the Happy Meal smile. No fucking way. In honor of Mental Health Awareness Week, McDonald's is acknowledging that sometimes a Happy Meal is actually a sad meal.
Starting point is 01:05:35 CMC reported on Wednesday that the UK division of the company is emphasizing mental health from May 13th to 19th, which is a major rebrand of their iconic Happy Meal, dropping the smile from the box and the happy from the menu item this is dead ass disrespectful to anyone who's ever struggled with their mental health like for real like is my mental health a joke to you no and it's like this isn't helping mental health like if anything if you're actually like think that this would have any sort of reaction on someone's mental health which maybe it would like i do think it would
Starting point is 01:06:00 it would be negative for them like sometimes you need to see a smile. Sometimes you need to see the word happy. Of course. No, let's give in. Literally this is just us giving in and giving up. The erasure of smiles and happiness is not good for overall mental health. No, dead ass. I need the World Health Organization to get involved. Like this is really bad.
Starting point is 01:06:20 Like this, I seriously, I think it could, I'm thinking about my own mental health right now. Like how I feel since knowing this this story before and after like my mental health has deteriorated vastly in the last 15 seconds and it's all on McDonald's and during mental health awareness month how dare they when I climb into bed I start feeling sad period period no and I do feel like sometimes when you're going through something like seeing something could trigger you like. But when it applies to like being sad versus being happy, that this is not the case. Like we need a place. I don't think that they're seriously thinking
Starting point is 01:06:51 that these boxes are going to like, they're not thinking of it in the real world, like tangibly helping. They're thinking like we're spreading awareness. Well, your awareness sucks. You don't think it's meant to be like, you know, we know not everything's happy.
Starting point is 01:07:09 The, the, they have, so the boxes, which also, by the way, this is like an expensive, dumb endeavor.
Starting point is 01:07:13 Like not only is it dumb, but it's expensive to change your boxes for six days. The boxes have a range of emotion stickers for kids to replace the iconic smile with another emotion of their choosing. So it's like, and by the way, that's the other thing is that happy meals are geared towards children. So what are we telling the kids?
Starting point is 01:07:27 Not we want unhappy children, but like we want to not be promoting happiness amongst children. Even if it's just like, okay, no, we'll meet you where you're at meals. No, I want aspirational meals. I want happy meals. Get the kids smiling.
Starting point is 01:07:41 Yeah, sure. Maybe I'm having a frown day. That happens. That's normal. But like I want to want to smile, not to just accept this frown. She wants aspirational meals. I do. I want aspirational meals.
Starting point is 01:07:59 And I'm not going to add anything because you said it perfectly. Eat for the mood you want, not the mood you have. Right. No, no. We're all just giving into our bad moods now yeah and i think that's a bad precedent to separate children i think so too whatever happened to turn your frown upside down no no now it's turn your upside down frown and i'm sure it's also like no stay in your frown and i disagree with that like i feel like that is where like the dialogue is going it's like let's sit in our frown you know let's acknowledge our frown but like no we should be combating the frown at every every meal but only with the goal of turning my frown upside down like sure I'll do whatever I need to do to turn my frown upside down but that's still my goal
Starting point is 01:08:38 you tell them we're just getting like really far and I just i also feel like i mean the proof is in the pudding mental health has never been like a bigger topic of conversation in history but mental health has never been worse it's in the shitter no i was that's what i was going to say like in history we have never spent as a society like more time energy resources talking about dealing with mental health and mental health has never been worse period now you might say like because mental health is so bad we have to do all those things but no i i think that they are working I think that they are related to each other I think the toast should be mandatory viewing and everyone will be fixed and have a happy meal too well that's for sure like I feel like a happy meal is exactly what this world needs
Starting point is 01:09:22 you know of course no we're getting rid of the happy meal. Oh my god like the mental health crisis is about to get 10 times worse. Yeah. Can I ask you a question like now that we've done the past five stories and at the very beginning like you thought you weren't gonna make it through and you were gonna crap your pants. How are you feeling? Your cheeks look less red just letting you know maybe you were just like tired. I do feel a lot better. Thank god. I'd like I mean maybe i'll climb into bed and throw up my guts but no i didn't deteriorate and my face is still really flush and warm but that's like a regular day in the life of me you know maybe of a flush you know what i wonder if my aura ring has any news for me about like why i'm feeling this way don't they like take your temperature and monitor your heart rate do they take your temperature that would be so smart
Starting point is 01:10:09 uh yeah they can i think they yeah they can they do but you might have to like connect it to an outside app i know it connects to like natural cycles well that way if you want to track like your period and stuff oh i reached my activity goal just now doing the toast talking with my hands the toast will get your heart rate up yeah let's see about my where would it be resilience celebrating my resilience my readiness uh everything is in the blue I think I'm good but Claude you're getting an aura ring right I can't wait to share one aura ring right? I can't wait to share notes. I'm really excited. I can't wait to share notes and see how
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