The Toast - Lash-Gate: Thursday, January 26th, 2023

Episode Date: January 26, 2023

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Good morning, Millennials. Welcome back to The Toast. Happy Thursday. It's your girl, La Turdia, Sha Hurdia, Me Clurdia. Literally messages every day, hey, La Turd. I like the way your nicknames catch on is frightening. They are just contagious. But how do you feel about being the turd?

Because you know what? Like, I feel like sometimes I take a nickname too far and someone's like, please stop calling me that. I'm like, OK, OK. I nickname too close to the sun. I am not bothered in the least because one thing about me, I'm just happy when people are talking to me, you know, like I don't really care what they're calling me, you know?

Yeah. OK, great to know. Yeah. I'm like, first of all, today's Thursday. It feels like a Wednesday because yesterday I fucked up you know what I was a negligent podcaster I forgot to select the deer toasters but I got them today and they're really good I picked them yesterday and I've actually been thinking about a few of them since yesterday because they're they're like conundrums

damn I don't know what I'm gonna even suggest okay we'll talk through it we'll game it out and I know you chose the out. And I know you chose the stories today and I know you definitely did not choose this story and I don't even know if it's like been made into like a news article yet but I wanted to fill you in on like something like major that's going on on TikTok that is causing interesting conversation. Okay let's do it. No nothing of my stories is underground TikTok news news I don't know if this is like for everyone but like my entire for you page is talking about this and like it's just insane okay so it revolves around the girl Michaela we spoke about her a few weeks ago she's a makeup

artist she had a scandal a few months ago when she was like try being an influencer for a day it was a little out of touch but like what should we do kill her um she has found herself embroiled in another scandal she posted in Instagram no sorry a TikTok ad yesterday I would say like 10 or 15 big gurus posted an ad for this new L'Oreal mascara okay and to be honest like a lot of the ones that I saw like Bretman Rock like people who just put the mascara on like it wasn't that compelling of stuff like it just looked like a mascara um but Mikaela was doing you know she had one eye on already and she was like let me show you she did a coat and she's like okay now I'm gonna go in with the second coat and when she did the second coat it was fairly obvious she was wearing like lash

extensions or like lash false lashes that's it sorry thank you and at first the comments were like Mikaela like be fucking for real. Like this is not the mascara. And then of course it just fucking spiraled. You know, she's untrustworthy. She's greedy. She's dishonest. She's, you know, abusing her platform spiraling into like an actual scandal. The, she went silent for the rest of the day. The video has 14 million views, which just to put into perspective she has 14 million followers yeah so like that's insane will you send me will you send me the video right now because I have some thoughts but I just want to watch it I don't want to like okay it's

before I see it but I it's worth mentioning that um she was in the comments at the beginning like she's been silent but like after an hour you know the post went up she was in the comments at the beginning. Like she's been silent, but like after an hour, you know, the post went up. She was responding to comments saying she was not wearing false lashes. Oh, okay. So she was denying the charge. She's maintaining that she's not wearing the lashes. Oh, okay. I was about to defend her even wearing lashes.

Okay. So I made a TikTok last night that's like blowing up and people are like roasting me in the comments. But like I stand by what I said because in my opinion, is she wearing false lashes? Yes. Okay, let me watch this quickly. Yeah, you don't need sound. You'll see when, you know,

they go from lashes to false lashes. Give Jackie a minute. She's watching the talk. I'm watching the talk. You guys, you can go to at Mikayla as well. Noguera. She is, we're getting a live reaction. So, so far she's putting it on the second eye.

Yeah. And everything looks good. Okay. Then she says she's going to go in for another coat and she'll show you the final product. She's going to go in for another coat on her second eye is what she's going to do. Cause you won't let me. Oh, oh, oh. Okay.

And then. Like when she shows the final product. Oh, I guess huh I'm not convinced I could see how people could say that but it's not to me it's not glaringly obvious but I just want to say two things like one there's a chance that she really is not wearing lashes and this is amazing for the mascara press like there's a scandal that people really think she's wearing lashes and this is amazing for the mascara. There's a scandal that people really think she's wearing lashes. Two, when lash commercials are on television, they always have the model wearing false lashes. It says really small underneath that, you know,

the lashes have been enhanced, that this is not actually the mascara. So like, how is this different of an advertising practice also like you can wear false lashes and wear mascara with it too like okay I'm doing my lashes my makeup for the day like this is what my lashes look like you should because influencers are are successful for their authenticity and that's why people follow influence influencers you should be honest about that if that's what you're doing. But like it's not crazy to wear mascara and lashes. And it's not unheard of to wear lashes and a mascara ad.

It's every day on TV you see that. So did you see my TikTok? I literally said the exact same thing. I said like they're doing national commercials like this that are so misleading. When you see like a Pantene commercial, their hair is digitally altered. They're wearing extensions. Like we are constantly being duped. And it's like this bar we have for influencers and not like national commercials. And the comments were like, well, they disclose. I, okay. I'm sure that they do. Are you getting up close to the TV and reading it? No, it's like, it's subliminal messaging. And so the way people are attacking Michaela. And so overall the people who are, you

know, against Mikaela are like, but she lied. And okay, let's say she did lie. We don't know for sure because we really don't have any full proof that she's wearing lashes, but let's say she did lie. Okay. What should we do? Should we go to her house to kill her? Like, okay, she lied. Like, what are you going to do? She probably didn't think it was going to blow up and to be this big thing. It was like an ad. I thought people would move on. I just, it's like people getting so like, it's the chronically online syndrome.

Yeah. Like it's not that deep. The only part of the line to me that is like problematic, just because influencers are, have their platform and they get ads because they're genuine and authentic. Like that's the difference between being an influencer and being a commercial model or whatever. Like you're putting your whole chest behind something.

Like, so the fact that she would say in the comments still that she wasn't wearing them, that's where it's a little dicey if it is a lie. But overall, the idea that she is promoting this mascara, she made the mascara look as best as she could. And like, you can wear mascara and lashes. And like, this is my final look. It's a little misleading.

Sure, but like- It's a gray area. That's advertising. Watch Mad Men. Like, they're here to sell a product. No, and that's where influencer culture gets so toxic because it's the entitlement from fans being like, we gave you this career.

We bought that house for you. She's getting married. Like, we are paying for your wedding from fans being like, we gave you this career. We bought that house for you. She's getting married. Like we are paying for your wedding. It's like, calm down. Like, first of all, you don't have to follow anyone. This is a totally free country. You are more than welcome to unfollow someone if you disagree with something they're doing. But like, I hate that part of influencer culture where it's like the, it's an entitlement from an audience where it's like, Michaela is Michaela because of Michaela. It's what she has built. It's what she's created. And like,

it's the way people take responsibility for the success of influencers. That kind of is like what gives them this attitude where like, they can just comment on anything going on in an influencer's life. And people might disagree with me. And that's totally fine. Like personally, just based on my life experience, like more often than not,

I'm going to side with the influencer because I do feel like, you know, in a lot of ways, influencers are misunderstood. Um, and I think people are really hard on influencers and I always wish like, you know, the internet and just people in general would give energy to things that actually matter, not whether or not, you know, Michaela's wearing lashes. Right. And like actual false advertising, like things that are actually misleading like people doing what Michaela's might be doing but like on a much larger scale reaching a much larger audience like use your outrage for things that are actually harmful just like you were saying someone commented disgusting on your on your TikTok it's like

such an overstatement. Human trafficking is disgusting. Right. Like, let's not be dramatic, okay? Let's just not forget, it's literally mascara. Yeah, no, but I understand, like, the scrupled premise of, like, Of course.

When you are an influencer, like, you're there to be authentic, especially her. I've seen some of her videos. Like, she's all, she's very open and raw. Some influencers are extremely curated, and, like, we don't want to see the behind the scenes. We want to see the perfection, especially her I've seen some of her videos like she's all she's very open and raw some influencers are extremely curated and like we don't want to see the behind the scenes we want to see the

perfection but like it doesn't seem like she's that way she starts bare face she's pulled back the curtain yeah so I understand like the um desire for 100% authenticity but I also understand that she's running a business and she's selling a product and I'm gonna make the product look as best as possible and I'm allowed to wear lashes when I'm wearing mascara 100% 100% and I don't know I'm just not going to like be over here crying unfollowing like petitioning for her life to be destroyed because maybe she lied in a comment like girl I'm lying multiple times a day about shit that doesn't matter and mascara doesn't motherfucking matter and like if she lies in it if she lied then now you know. And like maybe take what she says with a grain of salt next time.

But like you don't have to riot in the street. No. And a lot of the discourse is like, you know, she's influencing, you know, people who shouldn't be spending $10 on a mascara to buy a mascara. And it's like, once again, the conversation that we're always having, it comes down to personal accountability. It's like if you're so easily influenced and you're not really looking into the things

that you're purchasing, well, maybe that's something you need to work on. Yeah. I just thought it was a really interesting conversation. And there's actually really nuanced debate going on on TikTok. And I've seen good takes on both sides. Personally, like I'm just,

I'm not gonna get all bent out of shape over this. If you go down this rabbit hole, like you are extremely indignant about this because like it's not scrupled like I could see how you could get to that like place of being really fucking mad about this but you have to zoom out she wore lashes for a mascara ad. You have to zoom out and then like if you want to then you have to go you know you have to go in on everything like on on my TikTok, Abby Herbert, the TikToker, she commented, she was like, I was a commercial model. And they would always write like model wearing size small.

But like they were actually tailoring the size small to fit me perfectly. So that's misleading. Right. The back is all cinched. If they were to turn around, it's full of clips. So it's like, okay, so we're going in on this. Why is Mikaela being the face of like this big enormous thing that goes on in society like why is she bearing the brunt of like these billion dollar companies being misleading yeah and the brunt of like advertising and misbranding right

so if we want to have that conversation about global billion dollar companies I'm so here for it I'll be first in line to discuss it I'm not having this discussion about one girl who lives in Boston just doing her best I'm just not no no that mascara so I just wanted to I kind of want to try it because even before she put the lash on like I thought it looked good yeah I saw like a couple other people who just did like really kind of basic reviews and like it didn't people who have similar lashes to me which is like straight kind of thin not good lashes you know, I wasn't impressed. But now, I mean, this is the greatest marketing since, you know.

Now I'm sure they're like shitting their pants. And they don't. Well, your brands are so lame. They don't appreciate how major this is that like everybody's talking about this new L'Oreal mascara. And like, is it real? Is it not? Because I think there's a possibility that that she's not

wearing lashes I was like actually I'm like you know what I want to go get it like I just said to him from the drugstore I have been thinking of just trying it out like and I'm not yeah I feel like I'll have a hard time finding it throw on a lash no but see like that's mean and we're all mocking Michaela like I've seen people do that like it was mean no but you're not mocking Michaela you're mocking the people who are bent out of shape about it 100% once again people are not okay yeah well thank you for that um update in what's going on on TikTok I'm glad people are spending their time wisely and taking up for causes that really matter 100% it's so it's so good because the rest of the world is perfect so it's great that now we can focus on these small issues.

I completely agree. And that's what we're going to do here at The Toast. We're going to focus on bettering the world. We have some really good stories today. They're a little random, but I'm excited about them. Okay, good. Any human interests? You know, twins mutating with twins?

Not twins mutating with twins, though. There was, you know, I almost went down that way but there are some like statistic news that I think you'll find interesting data we love a list data data um that's fabulous I'm excited what did I do yesterday that I can catch everyone up on? Literally nothing. Like my back was hurting me all day. And I just laid on my couch and worked from my couch because I was not okay. Yeah. And like that's crazy that you are on your couch, not even in your bed.

I know. I felt like maybe, you know, changing it up would help my back. Yeah. Did it? No. I got my period this morning. Sorry to be that girl. And that helped my back. Okay. Sorry. I didn't mean to trigger you it's okay because one you can break all my rules if you want you know like I love everything that you say and do keep doing you and two like this show really

is about like everything that's going on in our lives so like if your period is ruining your day you have to share that with the class. Yeah, like, and I'm just saying, like I've been complaining about my back a lot. And I think it was because it was like the week leading up to my period. Cool, cool, cool, cool. And that's all there is.

So not much new with me either. Work like meetings, meetings, meetings yesterday. I finished my book three stars for hillbilly elegy glad that I read it and glad that I finished it and glad I can move on to the redheads book oh yeah big tings happening over at the redheads community oh always I mean it's just the sweetest place on the internet it's like there's Michaela's comments on tiktok and then there's the redheads the redheads so the redheads. So true. And that's. So true.

And that's all there is. And that's all there is. Like imagine one day the redheads getting backlash. We actually get some crap. I could see it. We get some crap. I could see it. Yeah.

I mean, I've, I've heard some complaints. People are always coming for the snatchler when she's just doing her motherfucking best. They're coming. Like there's a little bit of controversy and negativity at the redheads it's only natural there is it's only natural we're on the internet but yeah we keep on we are we we're on the internet and we are us right but we keep our blinders on at the redheads we will not let nothing stop our goal of promoting just focus on the art promoting literacy that's beautiful so sorry you can't slow us down horse blinders on focusing on your art that's really should be everyone's mentality can't see the haters oh so today is our final like kind of

classic episode of the week episode live thank. Live, thank you. Jackson Claude original recipe. Because tomorrow is a very special interview episode. It's about an hour long. We will be announcing who the guest is today on our Instagram. So make sure you're following at The Toast. I'm so excited. I watched it again yesterday. Just like re-inspiring myself, you know?

Yeah. We like made some clips. I'm really excited for everyone to see it. And so there won't be like pop culture, but there will be like, I don't know, a look inward tomorrow, which I think maybe we could all use. Damn.

You're holding up a mirror. Right. That's what I'm doing. Okay. Well, I can't wait to watch. Can't wait for it to drop. Can't wait to hear everyone's opinions about Diane Sawyer. By way you haven't seen it yet have you no I'm gonna be putting it on my tv it still needs like two edits that's I had to send back notes last night but

wow when it's done no I'm being really particular like I feel very strongly about this. You're passionate. I have passion. What's better than that? Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Well, I guess the Fast Five is better than that. For sure. Segway.

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for his absurd rant about Dustin Lynch. So I can't believe you haven't seen this. It's like a TikTok story. Yeah. So Luke Bryan had his Crash My Playa festival recently. And he was announcing the lineup. And next on stage was Dustin Lynch. And this is how he introduced him. He said, no one has drank more liquor. No one has vomited more. No one has taken more drugs.

No one has taken more IVs. No one has passed more STD tests than this next gentleman. Oh my God. And then TikTok went crazy with it. Some people said it was uncalled for. Another said they were quote beyond disappointed in what Luke said. All right, calm down everyone.

I have to assume that Luke and Dustin have like a really close friendship. Luke then put out a video saying, Dustin Lynch is one of my dearest friends on the planet. No one respects him more than I do. And that night at Crash My Playa, my introduction of him was complete sarcasm. Those words that I use were so absurd. I figured everybody would take it as sarcasm. That said, he acknowledged that obviously some people were offended about

that he would joke about drinking, using drugs and taking STD tests. He said, I spoke to Dustin. I love him. He and I are all good. And I apologize to anybody that doesn't understand my humor and sarcasm. Oh, my God. This is so dumb. If he owes an apology to anyone, it would be Dustin Lynch. And if Dustin Lynch ain't mad, you don't need to be mad. TikTok user one nine eight seven six four four three two, you know, literally. And like if this weren't a joke like he wouldn't say that like of course you can't even make a joke about a friend like it's crazy you really have to also just take into account the environment it's like a country music festival people are lit I think he was probably trying to be funny trying to rile up the crowd trying to like

humanize Dustin Lynch. He doesn't have a script that he's reading off of. This isn't televised. He's just like talking shit about his friend. The bar for what people have to apologize for these days is so crazy to me. I think this is funny. And when I heard this, even if I was there, I would just assume that the two of them have a great relationship right first of all it's like Luke's festival he's not gonna have someone that's not his buddy right and he's not gonna say that about anyone that he's not close with or that

he doesn't know also if you know Luke Bryan you know he's like a very very nice person his actually his story is incredible he adopted know, I forget how many, I'm going to butcher this story, but I believe his nieces and nephews, his sibling or sibling in-law passed away. The siblings in-law passed away. These kids, I forget if it was his sibling or his wife's sibling. They both passed away. Luke and his wife adopted the kids. They live with them, treat them as their own, are raising them. He's extremely talented, but also like amazing person.

So if you know anything about him, if you watch American Idol, he's like goofy and silly. He's kind of this like all American boy. Like shut up. Okay. He's not like, he's not a bad person.

Yeah. And I'm sure that people at the festival like thought it was hilarious. Like no one thought anything, but then you know it gets on tiktok and it reaches like all these people who would never be at this festival who don't know luke bryant and they're like this is beyond disappointing literally this is upsetting me that's wrong wrong, Luke. How could you? That's disgusting. STDs is not something you joke about in this country.

How dare you? How dare you? So it's just like some things just aren't for everyone. No, some things don't need to be explained. Yeah. But I'm glad that he explained it. Otherwise, I don't know if this would have been made news. And it just made me chuckle.

No, now I kind of want to go to this festival. Sounds lit. Yeah, I didn't know he does his own festivals. Crash My Playa. Yeah, and I think they're in Mexico. Like, they're real big, like, spring break type parties. That's why it's called Crash My Playa. Yeah, and doesn't he have a song about a playa?

I'm sure he has a lot of songs about, the beach yeah who doesn't Luke right I think no I actually think he has a song called crash my playa because like that would make sense I don't think he does I think he has a song called like play play it again it's such a good song yeah no he doesn't have a song called Crash My Playa, but there is a playlist. I'm sure it's good. Yeah, it's a good playlist. Check it out. Dustin Lynch is on it.

I didn't need this apology, so moving on. Okay, next apology news. The Razzies are apologizing. As they should. As they should. For nominating a 12-year-old actress for worst performance. Not cool. The Razzies are walking back one of their picks for the worst of the year

after backlash for selecting a 12-year-old actress. Earlier this week, the Razzies, an unaffiliated foil to the Oscars that instead picked the so-called worst movies of the year. If you watch the show, you are very familiar with the Razzies. Announced the nominees for 2023. Among the selections was fire starter actress Ryan Kira Armstrong under the category of worst actress, which also included Bryce Dallas Howard, Diane Keaton,

Kaya Scodelario, and Alicia Silverstone. People on social media expressed outrage over the organizers nominating a child on its list. They said, you know, quote, the Razzies are run by soulless people. Nominating a 12-year-old, fuck them. That child could grow to be amazing if you haven't gotten it in their head.

Anyways, the official- Okay, that's not why it's wrong. I just want to say. A statement, the Razzies put out a tweet and a statement. The founder apologized and said they will no longer nominate people under 18. He called the outrage valid criticism

that brought our attention to how insensitive we've been in this instance. He said, quote, sometimes you do things without thinking, then you are called out for it, then you get it. It's why the- Like literally, that's-

Perfection. Straight facts. He said, it's why the Razzies were created in the first place. We have removed Armstrong's name from the final ballot that our members will cast next month. We also believe a public apology

is owed to Ms. Armstrong and wish to say we regret any hurt she experienced as a result of our choices. Okay, I have to say them nominating a 12-year-old is so wrong. Like it's so wrong. It's mean. It's bullying. Kids should be protected. I completely agree with all the backlash and I never agree with backlash. Like I just, they're totally justified. And I have to say, I love this response because I do feel like sometimes it's happened to me. Sometimes you just like do or say something and you don't realize till somebody points it out to you how fucked up it is. Like I have definitely had that experience and I really like this statement.

I do forgive. I feel like the Razzies are all in good fun. But when it comes to kids, like kids should be left out of it. And they realize that I love how this whole situation turned out. And now they have the policy moving forward. No one under 18 will be nominated. I think this is great. I think this is great too. I think everyone can relate to like doing something, you know,

not realizing what's wrong with it and then getting it instantly. So I'm glad they apologized. I'm glad they put out this policy. They don't need to like cancel the Razzies. No. They made a mistake. They're owning up to it and they're making it right. And what I like is that the Razzies,

like it's always been in good fun. It's really never meant to be like mean or bullying. It's like satirical. And it's not like they're going after like bad movies that didn't make any money that are like by nobodies it's like the Bryce Dallas Howard is also nominated for best actress like she could take a joke no that's what Joan Rivers said you star in a 25 million dollar picture I'm allowed to make fun of your dress like it's all in good fun but you draw the line at kids. And I think that's so fair. I think that's the right line to draw.

I'm glad that they've drawn it. Have they never nominated a child up until this point? I guess not. Or is this just the one that got backlash? I don't know. But I feel like if there was a history, they would have mentioned it. Right. I know people would have given receipts like this is the eighth time.

Yeah. Constantly bullying children. Yeah. They have a pattern, a history. Yeah. I just love this story. I think I think it's great. I think it's a teachable moment.

I think it's great PR. I think how Razzie's handled this, like a lot of companies could could take a look at this statement and think that's a good example this should be in like a textbook yeah agreed perfect next up a little engagement news that I found to be kind of low-key bachelor alum Hannah Ann is engaged to her NFL boyfriend Jake I saw it on TikTok this morning and I thought it was interesting too you saw the the video she posted. No I just saw like a screenshot. Yeah like. Got it. Well she announced her Instagram to Indianapolis Colts running back Jake Funk in a sweet TikTok on Wednesday. Her proposal featured a beachside dinner, romantic candles and a projection across the water that read she said

yes. So the TikTok it looks like a regular like date night, you know, sponsored picnic dinner video, like how just TikTok tings. And then at the end, she shows her big honking ring. I like have, I find Hannah Ann's like trajectory to be really interesting. I haven't watched The Bachelor probably like since her time. And I do think like long gone are the days of being able to have like a really successful influencer career. I think like, you know, the Lauren Lane, Becca Tilly, Amanda Stanton, like those days are over. But there's a few girls every now and then who sneak in, who aren't leads, but who I think are going to, you know, are doing like actually really good, meaningful content

influencing Hannah G, Hannah G, Hannah and like Tayshia, but Tayshia was a lead. So it's like, it's almost unfair. And also Tayshia was still in like the era when people like deeply cared, but I still, I mean, I have no idea what's going on with the bachelor right now, but every season, like they still have a couple million viewers a night. Like every season, there's like two or three breakout girls who will end the season with a million followers. No. Really? I don't think they will end with a million followers.

Not even Clayton? What was his name? Susie was the girl who won. Look her up. Let's see how many followers she has. Wait, also Susie's a toaster. Susie is a toaster. That I didn't know.

$3.98. See? And she won. So, like, the power of The Bachelor is not as big as it once was. So, I'm always impressed when people in recent years, like, really do something with it. But Peter's season was still, that was, like, pre-COVID. We were so invested. Remember Barb?

Like, it was. Yes. And then he proposed to Anna Ann, but he wanted Maddie, and he's dating Kelly. Like, we were all there. Yeah, but I don't think a lot of those girls yes they did Matt okay so Maddie took a really interesting route to her influencer she very much like embraced and dove deep into like the niche Christian sermon kind of like Sadie Robertson southern vibe yeah and she's like a motivation uh like a a speaker like a pastor a. Yeah, and she's like a motivation, like a speaker. She's like a pastor.

A pastoress, but she's not a pastoress. A pastoress. She's like a Tony Robbins. No, because Tony Robbins. Joel Osteen, yes. Yeah. So like that's really niche. I feel like Hannah Ann is so interesting for me

because she's like, she's reminding me like of back in the day like Becca Tilly Amanda Lauren like she's really killing it and like there was like her man used to play on the Rams and he won the Super Bowl two years ago so like a year ago so she was like like she's like killing it I'm like happy for her is what my thesis was no I know I know but I'm telling you she still got in under the wire of like no I know I know that you just like have to disagree with me on this point no but like still got in under the wire of like. No, I know. I know that you just like have to disagree with me on this point. No, no, no. Just let it go. She got in under the wire of like when girls were still popping off.

That's all I'll say. I don't think so. I think so. Okay. I don't. Okay. Anyways, I didn't know that she like had a man's. I don't follow her, but her stuff comes up for me sometimes.

So I'll like go and look what she's up to. And she does like her like cooking content. Yeah. I didn't know that she had a serious boyfriend that is in the NFL. And then I was like, okay, well, I don't know how much he plays. But now you're saying he just, he won the Super Bowl. She was at the Super Bowl. She was at the Super Bowl.

I knew she had an NFL man because at the Super Bowl, she was like her content was going viral. She's big on TikTok. She's really like a full cross-platform influencer. And I she does really well I think so too her boyfriend her fiance looks so young like it's maybe that's just like she's young being old but like that too they just look really young but I'm really happy for them like I love I love love and I love when two young starlets get together. So nice to see like attractive, rich people breeding with one another.

Yeah, like it was like I'm happy Honey, Honey, Honey is engaged. And I'm also happy it's to an NFL player. 100%. 100%. Are you ready for our next story? Yeah. Emma Roberts is roasting herself and revealing one of her biggest style regrets from being a child actress even though I think it's not warranted but she oh I thought you were

gonna say the other big news from her Watched Reppin's live appearances she was asked about Lea Michele knowing how to read oh I saw that no this this is from her Vogue Beauty Secrets video oh she's obviously on like a press, because she has like a few movies coming out. But she got very real about her past style choices. As someone who started acting at age nine, she's had a lot of red carpet moments to think about in terms of some of her most memorable and not in a good way outfits.

She recalled the 2001 red carpet for the film Blow where she wore a casual outfit that she thought at the time was a real winner. She said, I went to the store in LA, Fred Siegel, and I chose cargo capris, a sequin tank top, and a purse made out of tires that had beer caps on the side. And I just thought I arrived. She said, I was in clogs. I was like, this is my moment.

And I look back on that now, and I like she's so cute I'm like she had no idea that was not gonna hold up I just want to say but like picture of her in the outfit like she's fucking slaying the outfit sounds worse than it is it does it's not great but I don't know I feel like for things like that it's all about how you felt in the moment like and she felt like a star she felt like she'd arrived like I love that for her I love it for her and also like what is an 11 year old supposed to wear on a red carpet that's like not black tie like we don't need to see her being like styled by styling mave like where would you feel comfortable in something age appropriate age it's tough it's definitely tough to be like really young on red carpets like

I always find like when there's like every now and then like a really young actress or actor well not actor actress oh excuse me I have to sneeze everyone are you ready oh the power of the sneeze compels her um like I feel like once a year there's like a really young kid at the Oscars and if it's a girl like she's wearing like a, you know, like a flower girl dress and like a little purse. It's really hard to style someone that young because like you don't want them to look like 15. Yeah. But I don't want them to look bad. I think it's even harder to style them when it's not the Oscars because for the Oscars like they make dresses for 11 year old girls and they're so cute and like no one's gonna say. They're like baptism dresses. Yes, exactly.

But to like, like what do 11 year olds wear? No, I don't know. I literally don't know. I don't know. Especially like when Emma Roberts is like kind of like a nepo baby. So there's like a cool factor to being a nepo baby. It's like you were raised in this town. You got to look cool.

Whereas like if it's, you know, someone who's new on the scene they're so cute and you're just like oh look what she's wearing yeah I think she looks cute she also said in her defense it's not fair because I was a child actor so I'm being held to looks when I wore when I was 11 years old no it's so like I die we literally last night me and you don't say pictures we were just looking at pictures of ourselves like in our phones like phones, like, on Google from, like, five years ago. And, like, the way I absolutely have to pass away, like, it must happen. Same. Right now.

Same. Yeah. So imagine. I have to go. That, imagine those type of high-quality photos living on the internet forever from when you were 11. I wore brown gaucho pants to school every single day. I feel like when you're 11, it's not

as bad as like when you're like, I don't know, 18, 19, like you really think you're doing something. 11 is pretty bad too, because what's great about being 11 is like, you don't really have those, the emotional intelligence yet for like being self-conscious or like insecure in your body, you know, like you're not having like on your puberty yet. You're or like insecure in your body you know like you're not you haven't like gone through puberty yet you're just like a kid so you just think it's clothes on a body and that's like a really healthy mentality that color with that color that's what I'll wear and you don't really notice if like the shirt pulls a little bit on your belly like you don't notice those things because you're young and you shouldn't so it's almost it's definitely worse yeah but she looked so cute and it's just

funny it's also like crazy that she is like the most stylish even though it's actually not crazy because I don't think there's like that many crazy bad looks from her and like once she became a young adult like it was the looks were slaying yeah when I think of like red carpet photos that like come back and like we look at I always think of of Ashley Tisdale. I don't know why. Like, I just feel like I can remember like a million pictures of her wearing like layered tank tops and low rise jeans. Yeah. And a belt.

And a cardigan. And like a skirt over the jeans. And a cardigan that's like a shrug. Shrugs. In terms of like who had it worse, Emma Roberts is fine. But I do love this Vogue series of people going back and looking at their most iconic moments and their most like horrendous, cringetastic moments. But like if this is Emma Roberts' most cringe, like she's doing great.

Our fifth and final story. Are you ready for it? Wow, I feel like we breezed by today. We did. But this one is really interesting because American Kennel Club has announced the top canine dog names in 2022. How interesting. How fascinating.

So here are the top girl dog names. Actually, should we start with boys since we're boy dog moms? Sure. Number one, Max. Maximilian Hilton Reum. Number two, Milo. Cute. Three, Cooper.

That's like such classic. So basic. Four, Charlie. King Charles. Five, Teddy. I think that Theodore would fall under Teddy. Actually, Teddy would fall under Theodore. Not me and Theo being so influential. No, I don't think that you are actually because it would be under Teddy. Actually, Teddy would fall under Theodore. Not me and Theo being so influential.

No, I don't think that you are actually because it would be Theodore. I think people are naming their dogs Teddy. Okay. Six, Tucker. That's dog-like. Classic. Sorry if these are any of your kids' names,

but they are really similar to popular kids' names. Yeah. Seven, Buddy. That's cute. I actually like that kids names. Yeah. Seven, Buddy. That's cute. I actually like that. It is cute. Eight, Bear. I like that a lot.

Yeah. Nine, Rocky. Okay, they're getting worse. Ten. I don't give a rock. Leo. Leo. I think these are all cute names.

These are also kind of popular human names, but not like the most popular, especially for boy human names. A lot of them are like very traditional, like John, William. It's different with girls, but they don't get as many like trendy names as girls do. Yeah, that's true.

But still like Milo is such a popular boy's name right now. Yeah. As is Theodore. I feel like... Is Milo short for anything not that I know of I feel like sometimes popular dog names then become popular human names like that's what happened with Theo like when you named him that it wasn't crazy that you named your dog Theo but now it's just like that's a gorgeous human name. No. And actually, I, this is so weird. I named Theo, Theo.

And I had only ever met one other Theo in my whole life. I didn't know anyone else with that name. I had never heard that name. There was just a kid in my middle school, Theo Lipsky, who I was like, that is cool. Like he had like he had glasses and he was like different. He was kind of cute. And I was like, you know what? Theo's got it going on.

And that was my, you know, like you think of a name through the lens of the people you know with that name. So I just thought of Theo as like the sophisticated name. And when I named Theo, Theo, and I loved it after like a year, I do wish that I had saved it for like my own child. But now everyone's doing it. So I don't even know if I had a child right now if I would take the name. Yeah. everyone's doing it. Yeah. So I don't even know if I had a child right now

if I would take the name. Yeah. I wonder like if there's a correlation between like what the popular dog name list is and popular human names and like if one

precedes the other. Perhaps. Because here are the top girl dog names. One, Luna. I've never met a dog named Luna. Never.

Two, Bella. Classic. Classic. But also a dog named Luna. Never. Two, Bella. Classic. Classic. But also a nice human name. Yes. Three, Daisy. Cute. Four, Lucy.

Lucy, Lucy, apple juicy. I like the name Lucy. Five, Willow. Okay, classic. You know a Willow pup. Kristen's dog, yeah. Six, Penny. Never heard of of it like for a dog seven sadie adorable eight maggie would magnolia fall under that one no and that's not my favorite name i think i'm maggie gyllenha Nine, Rosie. That's a cute name.

I like that name too. Ten, Ruby. Cute. Well, that's like fairly obvious because it's a color. Yeah. But that's also a very popular girl name right now. Yeah. So that's what people are naming their dogs.

I didn't see a Bryce. I didn't see a Strice. I didn't see a Thrice. I didn't see a Christ. You know what that is? You know what that is disgusting yeah but you know what maybe their influence it's like on a time delay yeah maybe next year next year honestly I feel like people might start naming their dogs Bruno because of Encanto yes I don't disagree so that's exciting we don't talk about strice and no, no. Well, the show's not over because thanks to my negligence, we have Dear Toasters today. Our weekly advice segment that usually happens on Wednesdays, but again, negligence. If you ever want to write in,

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All right, are you ready for Dear Toasters? I'm excited to get into it. Ready? So first up, Jackson McClurd, love you girlies. OG breather, my sister mom and I have been listening for years. We feel like you guys are our sisters at this point. Anywho, I need major, major advice here. Long story short, I've been interviewing for a new job in social media marketing. I made it through four rounds of interviews with a very well-known nonprofit social media director. Kim, Gwyneth, Jessica Alba, Kristen Bell are all heavily involved.

It's like a really legit organization. Okay, I know what it is. Oh. Oh, I know what it is too. I spent six hours on a marketing project for my last round of interviews. I put together a 12-slide deck. I met with the co-CEOs. I pitched them at least 15 amazing ideas for social media and I made them a whole content calendar. Well, after all that,

they ghosted me. I sent three follow-up emails and nothing. I followed them on Instagram. I started to see them using my fucking ideas from my interviews, my pitches, my ideas. I'm so upset. It's all over their social media. I don't know what to do. Do I send them a scathing email being like, hi, what the fuck? Do I say nothing? Help. They continue to use my ideas for my interview and I don't know what to do. It breaks my heart every time I see it. Love, I take an advantage of toaster. You can sue. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's, it's, are we going to be out here suing a nonprofit? Yeah, because they're acting for profit. And if it's the one that I'm thinking of, they have a ton of money and they're not acting in a generous, charitable way, stealing ideas from a young creator. I also feel like a way to get your, um, I hate when, like, I think when people do this,

it's like so tacky, but you can make like a TikTok. Those, those talks always go viral and they always get the brand or whoever like the accused party is they always get them to respond. The only thing is they might respond but they're not going to now hire you which is like a bummer. No. They should have hired you. They're not hiring her anyway. No I know but you're not going to get like any money or anything whereas like they stole your ideas you are owed money. I think like it's expensive to sue and it's very time consuming and so if you you don't want to do that, that's like what you should do is get a lawyer. But if you don't want to do that and you just want like revenge and you just want like

acknowledgement, then you could do a revenge talk. That's not the worst idea. I would also just triple check because I think a lot of the time when people think other people steal their ideas or copy them, it's like a very, not unoriginal, but like obvious idea. It's like the toast, you guys should go on tour. Like, yeah, we should. But like, is that a crazy original thought that like only one person could have?

That's so true. I would just triple check that. Like maybe ask around, be like, is this like a dumb thing that anyone could think of? Show all of the examples and see what people say. Because like, if I was on was on you know if I was me I'm just doing my job and I didn't know this story and then I see this TikTok like I'm gonna be looking really closely at what these ideas are make sure there can't be holes poked in your

revenge talk or your lawsuit yeah agreed but once you have like full proof like these are my hella original very specific ideas that are being stolen. Either sue if you're looking for money. And by the way, like you might be able to get like a lawyer pro bono because this would be like a high profile case or blow them up on TikTok. Or you should also do like a little bit of research online to see if other people have complained about like experiences with this company. Glassdoor. Glassdoor. Like either former employees. I mean, you can always find people who have like experiences with this company. Glassdoor. Glassdoor. Like either former employees. I mean, you can always find people who have like some shit to say,

but like, is this something that is a pattern for them? Yeah. That's a good call too. Just, yeah. Okay. We've got a little stagecoach drama. Howdy, Jackson Claude. I've been dating my boyfriend for two years

and we've been living together for one year. Lately, I just don't think he's the guy for me, and I've been planning on breaking up with him and moving out in the next couple of months. He randomly out of the blue surprised me with stagecoach tickets, flights, and an Airbnb, everything already paid for. Can I in good conscience go on this trip?

Thank you in advance for the advice, and I promise to update you. Sincerely, a confused country toaster. So you want to go on the trip, but you think it's like bad. It's like she was going to break up with him. And now she's like, should I just wait till after stagecoach to break up with him so I can get this free trip?

No, not even because it's like morally corrupt to take the free trip. Cause it's also like kind of sad to then leave him hanging with it all paid for. But because like, I feel like when people want to break up with someone, they constantly push it off. Cause it's like, oh, we have, you know, this wedding coming up. And then after that, we have this trip they constantly push it off because it's like oh we have you know this wedding coming up and then after that we get this trip plan and like then it's three years and then like you can't like there's always going to be something and I don't think that's a good a reason to stay in a relationship like of course you want to go to stagecoach but do you really like want to live with this person for four more months until then

no if you want to go to stagecoach go take yourself well I would also think an important factor here in terms of context is his financial situation like is this nothing for him or is this a lot but he could always take someone else no but it's also way in advance like he could get his money back for his Airbnb and for his flights maybe not the tickets but he could go yeah or sell them for a profit yeah unless like he bought them for her he doesn't like country music stop it's so sad I agree like it's really mean it's just like you can't put your life on hold for stagecoach

no and like you you can still go to stagecoach you could also offer to buy it all buy the tickets buy it all off of him that's a good call he did all the work why should you know you now plan another yeah like break up with him and when you guys are like sorting things out be like I also was thinking about stagecoach like I so appreciate that you bought that for me I don't want to like stick you with tickets and all this stuff if you weren't wouldn't go with someone else so like if you don't want to keep all that like I will buy that off of you that is a good plan I think that's kind because you're doing the right thing and you might get your tickets yeah they're not free but you still go what makes

me sadder is to think of like him stuck with all this stuff he tried to do a nice thing and like now he doesn't want to go he doesn't have anyone to go with and who wants to go and call Airbnb and get refunds and sell your tickets on Ticketmaster. Like that's, she's giving him work. So like offer to take that off his plate. Yeah. I love that. Love it. Okay. For third and final is fucking weird. Jackson, Claude, love you and need you now. My husband and I have been living in my parents' basement for a few months while our house is under construction. It's not the most ideal situation, but my parents have been so sweet. My mom especially has been so thoughtful, done little things to make us dinner, constantly offering to run errands for us. She even noticed my husband's shoes were worn out and she bought him a new pair.

But one day, my husband overheard my mom on the phone with her mom. They were gossiping about someone rather harshly. He later told me that he might not feel comfortable having our future children be around her because she talks bad about people. I'll be the first to admit that my family does tend to gossip more than we ought to, but this seems a little bit dramatic, especially considering all the good things my mom is doing. Do you agree that this is a bit of an overreaction on his part, or is my moral compass just so swayed by my gossiping tendencies that

maybe he's right? What should I do? Please put me in my place if need be. Thanks so much. Girl, you are not need to be put in your place if need be thanks so much girl you are not need to be put in your place man oh and by the way the moral high ground i'm surprised we can you can even talk to him from how high up he's standing he must be perfect he must be a perfect pious wonderful human being that he would even think such a thing first of all like calm down like we're we're women like we talk and like for her to be talking to her own mom like she's entitled to her private thoughts like that's not gossip she's not like going around to the neighbors like telling people stuff like she's family is a safe space house on the phone talking to her mom

like get out of the house then go go to invade someone else's privacy and then judge what you see them doing in private is actually like a really fucked up condescending thing to do especially it's not like she was you know stabbing people in private she was gossiping which is a rather victimless crime so I think your husband needs to take several seats and you maybe should play this episode for him being like why don't you worry about things that are actually important yeah like and and that's it you know as far as like bad examples that children might see like I would say that's maybe 100,000 on the list on the list completely like of the things you need to worry about in this day and age that doesn't register right because let's talk about

what we know just from this brief paragraph about your mom otherwise is that she sounds extremely generous letting you stay in her house very thoughtful buying you new sneakers you know very um caring offering to run errands sounds like she has a lot of amazing qualities and maybe gossiping isn't her best quality but But you know what I find from that? I find that she's human because nobody's perfect. And yeah, your man is being really judgmental here. I think you should play this episode for him. You do not need to be put in your place.

But he must be an absolutely perfect person to be so critical of something like that. Yeah. And then like to be so dramatic, like I don't feel comfortable having my future children here. First of all, you're thinking about something you don't even have kids yet like calm down like but you're comfortable enough to live up to mooch you're comfortable enough to get some free sneakers literally like calm the fuck down dude it's not that big of a deal yeah he just needs to be read to filth and it should be taken care of perfectly put he just needs to be read to filth and everything will be like this isn't like some red flag just no no this is just like husbands like being dumb

and dramatic it happens all the time to millions of americans dumb and you're gonna be dramatic you're gonna be fine you're gonna be fine be, but you will be. It sounds like you have a great mom. Oh, a sweetheart. I would love to gossip with her. I bet she knows everything. Because one thing about me, like I am going to gossip. I am not above gossip.

I believe gossip is, you know, a part of, an integral part of any society. It is an exchange of information. And if there's a gossip sesh I will be joining even if I don't know the people I'm like give me background yeah I'll be joining but if I find things are getting nasty and like I'm sitting with a bunch of losers who are talking shit about like people who are trying something yes it just depends on the tone I agree there's two different

types of gossip one is like an exchange of information I think that's gossip and then there's talking shit where it's like you're putting people down for just like doing their best and like being judgmental. That's different. But I still don't think I would refuse to have my children around someone who did that. It's even the bad one is not that bad. Yeah. But I don't think that's what she was doing. No.

Just because like she bought you shoes because she saw you were worn. Like she's a nice person. She's obviously like a good-hearted human being. So that is our show. That was Dear Toasters. Again, if you want to write in, it's deartoasters at gmail.com. We will always keep your shit anonymous. Do not worry.

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