The Toast - Leaks, Snakes, and Doing Something Crazy: Friday, April 24th, 2026

Episode Date: April 24, 2026

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It's Jackson, Claude and neighbor show the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off, swirly. It's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy Friday. Yeah, that's right. It's a day of celebration, or as I'd like to say, celebration. Oh, my God, it's Friday.

Hey, Jax, how you, Dern? Dern, good, Dern good. Very excited for this fried derries. Are you recording? I'm recording. There were so many things. yesterday from the lost files as we'll call them i keep thinking of them yeah me too i'm like oh i wonder why no one responded to what i said about that right and it's because nobody heard it you didn't say it

because nobody heard it i did something crazy last night what did you just indulge me indulgery okay i did something crazy last night i feel like everyone's fine with it as long as like we keep it moving like so go again i did something crazy last night started a garden crazier made a sourdough what I did is so crazy like the only thing is crazy it is cracker meth for real so mushrooms

no I got you a present how about you just tell me how about you just fucking tell me I got you a present I purchased a present for you oh my God what is it it is your least favorite

type of present a surprise no what's your least favorite type of present you know what it is a camie Yep. So I don't know if you've seen, but Jesse Draper's ex-husband, Jordan, has been going viral for his cameos. And I said, you know what? He's been giving a lot of, like, inspirational talks and, like, talking shit about his wife on the cameos. And I thought, I think my sister, she's been feeling a little down. I think my sister could use some words of encouragement from a successful business owner and just like amazing person like Jordan. Okay. Where's my advice? Send it to me. No, I want to watch it and I'll play it.

Good idea, good idea. Yeah. And so I was really paranoid about him knowing it was from, like Jesse, he lived with Jesse for many years and Jesse watches a toast. So if he knows like Jackie and Claudia, so I wrote your name as Jacqueline and I didn't write who it was from. Like I didn't write a name. So he just assumed you're going to crack up.

Just watch it. I sent it to you. And put it in front of your microphone so everyone can hear. Hold on. Volume up. What's up, Jacqueline? It's Jordan from Secret Lives of Mormon Wives here. I'm wanting to reach out because your brother told me that you are such an amazing,

hardworking mom and an amazing business owner. And I just want to give you some words of encouragement because I think that is so cool that you are a business owner and a mom. I can imagine that's very difficult. And, you know, your brother's just very proud of you, which is very sweet of him to get you this video. But I just want to make sure that you're not going to be filming anymore, of course, right? like she's not going to film will she uh all jokes aside though um your brother loves you very much and i really hope that you're a fan of mine i think if you watch the show you probably are not because i'm not a fan of how how i'm portrayed on this yeah it gets dark it's so earnest it's so earnest

you have the absolute best day ever and do something really nice for your brother for getting you this video don't forget to do something nice for your brother oh my god that just made it so amazing. Jackie, I was crying. I paid extra to have it done in 24 hours because, like, I was so eager. How much you could pay? Total $100. Okay. I just want you to know, like, you hate this person so much and you're like giving him money. I know, but the joy that I was just- You're paying for his lawyers? Well, we are going to clip this and like, I'll make money too. You know what I mean? Because I think this clip will go viral. But then we have to donate it to like the Jesse Draper legal fund, legal defense fund. Fine. Fine. Okay. Um,

No, that was really a joy. And it's funny, I didn't have that, that butt-clenching feeling that I usually do when I receive a cameo. I feel like because I was really, like, disassociated from it. Maybe because you call me Jacqueline, I know he, like, didn't give a fog about what he was saying. And that's not who you are. And I didn't feel like he was, like, talking to me. Like, he was just sort of going through the motions. Well, as your brother, just know that I love you and I'm cheering you on always.

Thanks, brother. Brava. Maybe he was on to something. Bravo. Yeah, right. I was just, like, so paranoid about him, like, declining it because he knows that, like, it's for me. Oh, I don't think that he's that clued in. But you understand, Jackie, he listened, like, he lived in a house with Jesse, who said

she watches the toast, like, every single day for the last couple of years. Like, he might know his, like, the girls. Yeah, and I also want to talk about the house that he's recording this cameo for him. Is that Jesse's house? Like, whose house is that? I don't know. Because it looks like it was designed by a woman. And he's, like, you know, just squatting while she's in a hotel.

But he's not. filming. I told him that was my note. I'm like, my sister could really use some words of encouragement. And like she loves your monologue, but she's not filming. Yeah, he could have given me a little more, but I guess my brother didn't even quote himself correctly. My brother didn't make it clear. Brother for sale. 25 cents. So that's what I did last night. I also watched the Nick game. They lost two in a row. It was really bad. I fell asleep. Ben was like, you're not like into it. And I'm like, I really don't like watching games in the first half. Like, It's irrelevant.

Like the second half is where it matters. So I said, I'll just catch up on my scrolling. And by the second half, I'll be fully locked in. And the second the second half started, I just fell right to sleep for the night. So you can watch Beverly Hills. I didn't. Was it the reunion? Oh, shit.

Yeah, I was locked in. Fuck, I'm so sorry. You can tell me. You can recap with me. I will. I was locked and loaded. It was very engaging, you know. I feel like right off the bat, they started with like Dorete's divorce,

Rachel Zobing on the show and Amanda Fran. and the hate and Erica's Ark this season and so it was like you know usually their garbage part one like Sutton Brown how do you feel yeah about being brown but it wasn't like that like we hit the ground running oh good yeah so it was really good and then

what else did I engage with well the Summerhouse Reunion taped yesterday the audio of that's a course story I read I read corduroy I read Paddington you know I have Corduroy too We just got it. And it's funny because we're pretty much,

we read all the serieses, especially like the longstanding ones. Yeah, the OG ones. Paddington, the ones with heart, the ones with soul. Madeline. No, it's a girly.

Oh, I bought it. I would buy it, but like would they like it? Oh, we read it and I wasn't like dazzled by it. It doesn't rhyme. And the pictures were like kind of like minimal, which I didn't love.

But do you know like the famous bar in the city at the Carlisle called Bemelmans. No. It's like the coolest, hottest place to get a drink. It's like just sick. And I was reading the Madeline book, and it was written by Ludwig Bemelman. I'm like, what are the odds, right?

Turns out they hired him to like paint the walls at the bar. And he lived there for like a year. Everybody loved him. He was that guy. That when the bar was done, they were like, what did you name this place? They named it Bemelman's. Oh, wow.

Fun fact. Yeah, I'm just like full of New York. Oh, I told you ready. If you're full of New York thing, you have to do Eloise. That's girly. It is girly, but it's historic. Did I tell you about the exciting thing happening with my, like, TikTok friend who makes videos

about New York history? No. I think I told you guys. Yeah, I did. No, you didn't. I was talking about him on the podcast. You have a TikTok friend who makes videos about New York history and it's not me? Yeah, I told you.

Like, remember the lamps? Okay, yeah, the lamps. Well, he heard what I said about him in the podcast. He asked if I wanted to do a video. Oh, that's pretty cool. Like sharing a New York fact. So I told him to, like, find a fact. And we'll do it together.

Oh. Are you sure I didn't tell you that? I'm like having to do a... You told us about the lamps, but I didn't know that you had like a... I didn't know that you had a friend. Johnny. Oh, what sort of facts should you do?

There are so many good ones. You know, I told him that I'm really into the park. So if he has like park ones, I would love to do. But I will let him sort of... I won't tell him how to do his job. You know I took a course in college on the history of New York. That's a class I would take. Yeah, it was a great class.

And like now at 30, you're probably ready to take a course like that. I would take it again if I could, but I can say with pride that I appreciated it at the time. That's good. And I really absorbed a lot of what I learned. Okay, you're like a sponge. And that doesn't usually happen. I took a lot of cool courses and you would never know it. Like the fact that I took a whole course on Russia.

And let me tell you, I was shocked when I found out what happened in Chernobyl to the Imperial Family. Oh, oh, oh. The House of Special Purpose. Yeah. I obviously learned that in my course of Russia, and I had no idea. Youth is wasted on the young, my friend. Education is wasted on the young. Speaking of educating, I am educating quite a few people today

because my episode with Susie Weiss is on her podcast, second thought, comes out today. It's out already. You can watch it on YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts. And I was just watching it. They've got great lighting. Do you think our lighting is good, like good enough? I think our lighting here is good. There's always better lighting, but I have no issue.

shoes with our lighting. I feel like it's really fair to us. I think I'm going to listen to your podcast. You know, I don't always listen. I know. I actually, I never listened to my own shit. But I guess I would be like, I guess if I look inward, like, I think I'm listening for Susie. You know? Wow. Because it's like, we usually don't listen to each other when we like do other stuff. We also do so many podcasts like and we talk all the time. Like, what are we? We have to have I'm not saying anything that you personally haven't heard. But Susie had just read my book. So she was doing like a big sort of state of the union on her self. I want to hear it from Susie's POV. Yeah, yeah. She's great. And I have to say, I was so fucking funny. I said this on yesterday's

episode that ended up in the garbage, but I was really operating at like a different level when I sat down with Smith-Soo's. I was so funny. I was cracking myself up. Okay, I can't wait to watch. Did you guys talk about me at all? Of course. Oh, okay, good. That will make it like extra fun. Whenever I share, I see, I try to do this all the time. Like, whenever I share a thought that we've sort of come to, like, think together, you know, like we have our, we have our thesis on things. Yeah, we do have our Well, I always say, like, Jackie and I always say, I never say, like, I think. I know. I'm very much a we person as well.

Yeah, it's important to lift everyone up with you. It is, but I would understand if you're out there, like, I, like, I understand. Yeah, I'm, I've never been like an I type of person. Never. I think we all agree. Never, never. Oh, I am doing something crazy today. What?

And what's the crazy thing that you did again? I got me a crazier. Okay, okay. I need to keep track of your crazy things. That was crazy. That was crazy. Yes, I do find. What I'm doing is I'm doing a Soto Method class. I know you guys are going to say, Terry, I've been following.

Yeah, but I've been doing like personal training with Hillary because she's my friend. And so she obviously does it modified, like for someone who's not capable of true exercise. But today I was like, you know what? You're doing like the group? Like a class with other people. I hate working out in front of other people. It's genuinely humiliating. I guess that is constitute says crazy.

I don't think I've oversold any of my crazy things this morning. That one was that's oversold. That one. Just that one. Going to a workout class? That's actually really crazy. Well, no, because I don't see that as crazy for you because I just see you as like this very capable

strong person. That's really beautiful. Yeah. Yeah. We have a lot to discuss that I just think we should get into it. We also have Queenie and Weenie. And I love when my Queenie and Weenie just like fall into place over the course of the week.

I like wrote them down a few days ago, you know? Yeah, I love that. I love Queenie and Weenie. I know you do I know you actually want to do it three times a week I want to make mention I'm wearing another OG sponsor on my feet today Thursday boots

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Yeah. They're very cutesy. I'm wearing hoka's like so not a big deal. They're brand new. Oh, hoca, hoka. I, yeah, it's like, I really wish you would have making a big deal. No, I was trying to be cool about it, you know. I know.

I appreciate that. Acting it's something to do every day. Yeah, it's just love not a big deal. So I'm okay with diving in. I really want to start. about Summerhouse if you are. Yeah, let's get into the fast five stories that you did a do need to know. And the fast five stories that you don't need to know are brought to you by Pepsi prebiaticola coming in two flavors. So if you love that great Pepsi taste that I love, let me tell you about a new

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taping. Andy Cohen came out of the taping and said that the season 10 is one of the most intense in the hundreds that he's filmed. So Andy filmed a little video last night as he left the reunion just being like, wow, this was intense, one of the most intense he's ever done, and that, you know, we would all see it soon. This morning, most of us woke up to leaked audio from the summer house reunion. It was a conversation about West Mandivol. Sierra calls Amanda a snake in the grass.

It's a pretty scathing cliff. It's pretty scathing. her and Mia, and what sounds like KJ, I guess, I thought it was Kyle getting in the mix. She said more in the reunion than he said the whole season. Yeah, because I think he really looks at Sierra like a sister and is really going to bat for her, are, you know, coming out Amanda and West for why they did, what they did.

Why would you do that? A couple sound bites. Page 6 has this as Sierra saying this, but I heard it as Mia. Let me know what you thought. The person said, you went from being married, and I'm not saying your relationship was perfect. No, this was Mia. This was Mia, yes, to being one of West's side bitches.

She called that crazy and unnecessary. Then Sierra said there are a million other fucking guys in New York City and you chose the one guy. It's true. She said, you're a snake in the fucking grass and you know you are. You move silent, but you're fucking deadly.

At another point in the clip, they called her out for lying directly to Sierra when asked about it. And Amanda said that she did lie because she was still trying to figure it out. She said it was also new and I was figuring it out. There were so many layers and complications to this, the fact that he was seeing other people, the fact that I was married. She also insisted that you can't help who you like and are attracted to, to which Sierra said, yes, you can.

I actually really appreciated that because Amanda's taking, like, her stance is like, listen, you can't help who you fall in love with. Obviously, this is not ideal. I was married to his friend. Your ex-girlfriend is one of my best friends. But, like, you can't help who you fall in love with. And I just want to be abundantly clear that, like, this is not love. It was probably lust, and now it's sort of, like, they're just clinging to each other

because that's all that they have. And I think if West had a choice, he wouldn't be with her, but he really has no choice. Like, he has to be with her. Not only, I think that it would actually be really bad for her. Like, I don't think she could handle that emotionally. But too, like, you just blew up your whole life for what? Like, he has to stay with her. And the only way for him to look worse right now would be to leave her dry and dry.

But I appreciated Sierra saying that because you said it. And I never even thought about it, but it's so true. Like, just to indulge in every little feeling that you have is an extremely immature. Like, yeah, maybe you did think, I think a lot of people are cute. You know, like, just to, like, and act on every single impulsive feeling that you have. Like, that's actually a really immature and unnecessary way to live. And, like, you have no self-control. And she's not even saying you can't help who you love.

She didn't say that. She said you can't help who you like and are attracted to. Yeah, but that's the thing. That's why Amanda's in the worst position ever. Like, she obviously loves West. Like, she does for sure. She could never say that's him. He would run away.

Like, because this is not a real relationship. Right. Another hard position to be in. And then Sierra, you know, went on to say, like, you're still technically married. and you're like getting with us. And she was like, so I have to be celibate and single until a judge signed some paperwork where Sierra was just like, there are a million guys in New York and you chose the one, which is what we said.

Sierra needs to not bring up the marriage thing. Like, nobody cares. Like the problem here is not that she was still technically married. We know that they were separated. Like that's not the issue. Amanda could have dated any other guy on the planet except from like, except for maybe Craig. Yeah.

And would have been a hero. Everyone would have loved her relationship. Celebrated it, et cetera. except for West Wilson. I will say I listened to the leak and obviously it's just a microcosm, right? We don't know if it was the beginning, the middle, or the end,

but I felt like they weren't going hard enough. Like I really, and I, like her or dacity, she is not coming in, you know, tail between her legs. They're not coming in apologetic and taking accountability. It's very much like, well, this is what happened. And, you know, it's unfortunate, but we're in love. Like, and so I don't feel like people are on the couch as based on just this clip are being hard enough.

honestly. Yeah, I think they need to tread a little bit lighter than they did with Scandival. I think in hindsight, like that was too much. And so I think like make your feelings plain call out the lies, call out the bullshit. But it doesn't have to get to that level. And I think they can make their point better if they don't get to that level. I think that the way that the conversation was going, like seemed like they were firing on all appropriate cylinders. And he also put out a statement this morning about the leak. He said that he tweeted on my way to eye surgery and just reading about it, people laid their souls out emotionally for 10 hours yesterday. And it's disgusting and illegal for someone to leak or distribute this. It's disrespectful to the work in tears the cast

putting yesterday. Let the season play out. You will see it all in due time. All right, calm down. Like, we're just excited. What do you think about the fact that it leaked, though? Well, I think it's interesting because one of my favorite, like, facts that I once learned while reading Andy's books was they used to have a lot of leaks at reunions. They could not figure out how to get the leaks to stop. And it was when they stopped putting monitors in people's dressing rooms that the leak stopped because it was more often than not hair and makeup in the dressing rooms just sitting around waiting for the people to come back for break and just watching and leaking. So they used to, they plugged the audio. Yeah. And because the people in hair and makeup, they need to

watch to see if somebody needs to touch up, but they don't need to hear. Yeah. And so they removed the audio from everyone's dressing rooms and that pretty much stopped all the leaks. What's crazy is that there wasn't a leak like this with Scandavall. Like this is kind of a big deal that there is a leak. People are trying to guess

who leaked it from the cast because it sounds like, you know, it sounds like Mia's far away, but Sierra is closer. I do not think it was a cast member. I really don't. So people thought maybe even West

and Amanda leaked it because it sounded like they were closer. I want to look at the seating chart again. It's on Bravo's Instagram. I don't think it was them, but I think it was a cast member it was someone on their side on Bravo's Instagram. And I also imagine it's someone who's not talking.

It's Carl. I imagine it's someone who's not talking because it would be so obvious when you talk that like your phone is closest to you. Oh, you know, but I thought KJ sounded the furthest away. Yeah. And he's, it goes Amanda West. Who do you think sounded the loudest? I'd have to listen to it again because now I think.

Jackie, maybe it was Andy. Oh, that would be funny. And I just want to say regarding the leak in general, I actually think it's a good thing that this leaves. Obviously. Because it's like very titillating for us. We needed something, you know. This obviously doesn't give away the whole reunion. There's no spoilers here. It's all very obvious. It's all very obvious. It's all very obvious what they're saying, but at least we get like a little taste. And I think we're going to have to wait a long time for this reunion to come out and they need to keep us engaged. And I think net net, this little tiny leak is like good for the show.

Obviously, and he's like fake outrage. Calm down. Like it's really not him bringing in the cast and the crew, you know? Not to bring in the legality. Yeah, I wonder who it was. I would never tell anyone, but if anybody knows, just like, let me know. I'm just curious. Yeah, it went on Reddit, so, like, whoever had it. And I imagine it would have been, like, a cast member, like, voice noting it. Maybe they sent it to, like, a friend or someone.

You think it was a cast member? Who else would be that close? Well, I don't know, but I guess. Oh, I guess, yeah, like, it has to be a cast member. And because, like, people who are in production. I know who it was. Levi. Levi was totally.

I can't believe she's. at the reunion. People who are in production, I actually don't think they care that much, like, about the show. They're just, like, manning the camera. Doing their job. But the people on the couch, like, they engage with, like, the Bravo accounts and Reddit. And they have a lot of personal, like, personal, like, investment in what happens. Yeah, like, I think nobody cares more than them. I think it was Andy. I just want to say. I think it was Carl. Or Jesse Solomon. Darry, Levi Ben Bailey. I'm so fucking sad for this reunion. It wasn't me. She's too far away. wasn't lazy.

It's giving right couch. Carl Jesse. I think it was Carl. I think it was Carl. So it settled. It was Carl. They also left the reunion together, Amanda and West. She was like wrapped in a blanket.

I just want to say like they looked kind of fabulous. You think they? I thought they looked forbissina. I thought the blanket like as, you know, as much as like she could be fabulous in a blanket. Like it sort of looked like a big furry coat. Oh, I did not read it that. way at all. And it was like their first like, you know, stepping out together. I actually thought like, not that I, not that I support them in anyway, but I have to be honest about what I thought.

Yeah, of course. That's fine. I saw. And I actually thought that they, it was a good look. What's interesting is that Sierra left privately through the garage meeting like they chose to be and then they're like this. Yeah, right. And like you were wearing the blanket. Like you just caught. Well, everybody else left regular. I didn't see pictures of anyone else leaving. You didn't? No, just them. Interesting. And Sierra, like, they were obviously given a choice. Maybe not everyone was giving a choice.

Maybe they were like, get out there. Go take pictures. You know, we care about Sierra. We're going to protect her. We're not protecting you. Walk out the front door. That's interesting. Yeah.

I would do that if like this were my show. Yeah. I would want to like just protect Sierra and everyone else can figure it out. I just know West is in hell. Like I know he's so unhappy with his decisions. He's having the worst time. And that brings me joy because, and you know what's so funny, I saw an edit to like this whole saga to the bridge of the smallest man who ever lived. And it's actually, it's West Wilson.

Obviously because he's small, like he's short. But like you deserve prison. Like you literally deserve prison, but you won't get time. You'll slide into inboxes and slip through the vines. You cry. Like, it's actually crazy how that song is about him. Interesting. And the part where you send back.

Yes, someone. Literally. Who wanted me dead? Did you sleep with the gun underneath our bed? Were you writing a book? Who are you? A sleeper cell spy? In 50 years will all this be declassified?

All those things are giving West like way too much credit. Yeah, of course. No, no. And you'll confess why you did it. And I'll say good riddance. Because it wasn't sex. It was, it wasn't fun. And I just.

And you deserve prison. Literally, he deserves prison. But you have a good time. But the rest of the song is actually making too much of him. Like he's chis. It is making too much of him. A bumbling idiot. But it's more so the fact, like sometimes like somebody, especially romantic partners,

will do something so evil to you. And like how was it not illegal? Like how do you not go to jail for that? Yeah, I agree. Like how can you do something? so, so, so bad and not be a criminal. Yeah. No, it's like Sandoval and it's just not. And nor, I mean, it's just not.

But yes, I understand the line. I understand the line. Ugh. I'm so sad. Like, I'm sad. I think I'm going to have a watch party. I mean, okay. Maybe West will come.

It might be in the Hamptons this summer because that's how far away it is. Oh, yeah. When is it? It'll probably be in like five weeks, six weeks. You know, I drink electrolytes every morning. I keep getting in these clumps of like powder in my electrolytes. And like it's like... I saw you struggling.

I chose to ignore you. You saw me struggling. I did, but I was in the middle of like talking about our first big story, the big news. And I thought she'll figure it out. Yeah, I will figure it out. I'm going to start my own line of electrolytes like so I can stop choking. She'll figure it out over there. Are you ready for our next story?

Yeah. Jake Shane and Alex Earl are messing with us. They posted a video yesterday an ad for Venmo that also feels like an ad for her going on his podcast to spill the tea. Yeah. What do you know? I actually did speak to Jake Shane.

Let me tell you something about Jake Shane. He's the steel trap. Like, oh no, that's not, what's like when you're quiet? I think it's a steel trap. No, your mind can be a steel trap and like you forget, when you don't forget stuff, that's a steel trap. He's a vault. He's a vault.

Let me tell you, or an amazing actor because he said he like had no tea or nothing. And I'm like, really? Sure. Sure. Yeah, I know. I know. So do you think she's going on therapist?

She's been on therapist. No, I feel like... It was just the ad. It's very clear. It was just an ad? I think it was just an ad, but I think it's also very clear what her step,

what the steps forward will be for Alex Earl. I thought so too. I was like, fine, I'll wait for the show. Like, whatever. I'm over it. But then they post that ad and he's like smiling at the end knowingly. Yeah, I just think he's like a smiler, you know?

Oh, my God. I think he's a person who's, smiles. I can't with him because it totally was the smile of this girl's coming on my podcast and she's going to spill all the tea. I hope you can't. Oh, that's so funny. I didn't really think that. I just thought it was a cutesy ad. Oh no. I watch it again now through that lens. I felt like she's going on his podcast. They know it's going to be the biggest thing. They like reached out to partners like does anybody want to like do an ad? Oh, that's interesting. And they like recorded this Venmo thing in partnership with the fourth coming episode. But that's just like my take. I was laughing. Are you so excited for the pod today. Yeah,

she's going on the pod. What jacket is that? Thanks, I just got it. Can you pause for a second? In the beginning, he said, are you so excited for the pod today? Let me watch it again and then I'll give my analysis. So I didn't make it out. I was cracking.

I just thought it was like a funny commercial. He shows up with the same jacket. Okay, so I think the smile at the end is just more so like a cutesy way to end the ad. But he does say, Lilo, watch it over time at the beginning. Are you so excited for the pod today? It's going to be so fun. So?

She can't go on his pot and not talk about this. Praying it's going to be Sunday Surprise episode. Hmm. Are you convinced? I'm not. But I do have questions on why he said that thing in the beginning. And smile at the end. So you don't think she's going on his pod?

I don't know why she would. She has her own show. She has her own YouTube series. I mean, it's one of the biggest platforms in terms of like telling your story. It's actually sort of the perfect. thing for her to do. And it's not like she has to host it. I also think that Jake Shane is definitely like a thorn in Alex, Alex Cooper's side. Like I think he was like this little show, like this little TikTok and it's like blowing up.

Now people go to him mostly, especially music people. Yeah, it's one or two. So maybe not only does she want to tell her story, but also like stick it to Cooper and like she knows that maybe like Alex Cooper hates Jake Shane. Yeah, for sure they, well, they obviously hate each other too because Jake Shane is Alex Earl's best friend. So like, oh yeah, he hates by osmosis. Common enemies. But I think she's going on his podcast. And if she is, she will talk about it because don't. What else?

Of course. What else are doing here? I obviously support her going on. I think it's a good strat. Because he's high school. I also think he's on Netflix. He's on Netflix. She's on Netflix.

It's like still part of the synergy. But I can't imagine why now everyone's sort of content with her saving it for her reality. So we've all accepted that. So why wouldn't she? I don't know. That's why I'm like. I thought there was a wrench thrown in yesterday. Get back on the board.

Zero days. I don't have to get back on the board because I never changed it. Zero days without talking. It has been zero days since we've talked about the Lex versus Licks drama in a formal capacity. It was formal. I think I have a typo here.

Made better luck next week. Oh, you have a typo. Yeah, I wrote about a, B-O-U-P. I must have been talking and writing at the same. time yeah you guys wouldn't know because it's part of the lost files yeah it was in yesterday's pre-record they're like get away your random whiteboard we don't know what that is well it's been zero days zero on monday it will be two we'll have to make it too zero shows shay you're right hold on yeah because that because then we take a vacation yeah then we

start counting days let's go by shows okay okay okay Now are you ready for our next story? Yeah. Harry Styles and Zoe Kravitz are engaged after eight months of dating. This is really interesting. This is really crazy. Following internet breaking images of Zoe Kravitz spotting a ring on that finger, a source tells page six.

The two are engaged. He's completely smitten, says the insider. He would jump off a cliff for her. Well, that's not good. Slaid. That's not good. Meanwhile, we're told she is on cloud nine. She better be.

I didn't believe this when I saw her wearing the ring because I do think that celebrities put on big pieces of jewelry on random fingers just to start stuff and keep their name in the news it's like a good way to just stay relevant Sometimes you get like gifted a piece of jewelry Or you're borrowing something and it only fits on a certain finger Like it's really not that serious I haven't worn a wedding ring in a year now

Same And also like sometimes you just don't have enough fingers For all the rings that you have So it's not always So I didn't I wasn't getting on board with people be like She's engaged and now I guess it's being reported us back So she's engaged And it's crazy that Harry's had so many high profile

relationships, but he's never been engaged. So this obviously means something. I, of course, think of it from the, like, POV of, well, is she going to, is he going to be her plus one to Taylor's wedding? Of course. Right? Yeah, of course. And then Taylor's going to go to their wedding?

Like, that's just weird. But her and Harry are cool. They're like this sort of exes. Like her and Joe Jonas and Sophie Turner, like, I think it's all good now. Yeah. Especially now with Taylor, it's like with Travis. Like you can be, she can have a couple exes that like are persona non grata forever. Maddie Healy.

Yeah. Harry's not one of them. Jake Gyllenhall. Joe Alwyn. Well, Joe Alwyn. Harry, you know what? They're going to see each other at work events. Like you've got to keep it moving.

And they're always like, like, you know, cordial. So I think that this is fine. Yeah, I can't believe Harry Styles is off the market. I feel like the fact that this isn't bigger news. Like, it's obviously big news. But I feel like really speaks to his star sort of having fallen somewhat recently. Don't you find with an aperture? With aperture.

Did the album come out? Oh, the album. did come out. It came and went very quickly. Yeah. I guess his star has fallen, but I also think that maybe it was because there was so much hoopla around him and Olivia Wilde that like whatever he did next, like everyone was just going to sort of not engage, sort of like Kim and Lewis. Like, we've done this before. And so people just aren't as like jazzed up about it. No, but there was a time that like if Harry Stales had gotten engaged, like there would have been vigils held in every major city. Like people would not have been okay. And now it's like cute. Yeah.

It is cute. And I guess it's like soon eight months, but I endorse that. Like when you know you know. I'm not going to be a summer house cast member telling them that they're moving too quickly. People in Hollywood do way crazier. Like dating for eight months,

like at an age appropriate relationship. And you guys have spent like really, you were spotted together almost every week. Like you obviously spend a lot of time together. I have no problem with this. And I actually think they're a great couple and I wish them well. Speaking of great couples,

did you see Hella Bieber's Instagram story? I did. That's actually our next story. Oh, then sorry. I don't want to rush. Let's just go back to. talking about the cravitz is. So her name is going to be Zoe Stiles.

That's a cute name. That is a cute name. I mean, styles is such a great last name. I don't think, like, even if your name was like, you know, Monster. Monster Styles. Your name was Jay Z.

Monster Styles. Funny. It's just a great last name. Monster Seals sounds like a goth store, like hot topic, you know? Yeah. I mean, we can go to the. the next story if you want. No, no, no.

You don't want to. You don't have to keep bearing names. No, we can't. Jackie Stiles. Jackie Stiles, that's cute. It sounds like I run a, like a personal styling business. Instagram. Yeah.

Claudia Stiles. Now that feels right. It actually doesn't work. No. It does sound like a verb. Okay, like Claudia Stiles. Claudia Stiles, who? Who?

Who was there I am? Yeah, I guess I never thought about what it's like to have a verb for a last name. Let's think about it. Wait, are there others? Like, walks. Is that like a name? No, like Walker. A noun, not the same.

Yeah. Eats. Not a name. Lids, breathes. Hmm. Sounded off in the comments. Do you know someone that has a. verb for a last name.

Please let us know. Do let us now. I feel now completely ready for our next story. Yeah, I'm ready to too. Haley Bieber shares a cryptic message about not needing any apologies. So Haley Bieber is telling internet trolls to hit the road. Oh, good one. The E-News.

Oh, that is actually a good one. So she posted an Instagram story saying, all good on apologies. The therapy's already paid for. Save it. I guess alluding to the fact that she's now becoming. The internet has switched up. like Biebercella, like, Road being a billion dollar company. It's been a slow transition, but now I feel like she's truly on the other side of the

insane, like, Jelina hate. And so now everyone's like, Haley's such a queen. And I know what she's saying. At first I was like, is like, is she talking to someone specifically? And then I was like, no, this is clearly about like the internet switch up on her. And it just feels good to know, like she's not talking to me here. Like, I never, I never hated Haley Bieber. Like, I am elite in my thinking, you know?

I completely agree. I just feel like, miss me with that, you know? Yeah. That was not intended for me because I actually like I never even once had a bad thought about No like there's so nothing to hate my thoughts and my words about haley beber having so pure yeah and so while I see this mess happening it's like not my circus not my monkey and i'm sorry that happened but i feel good knowing like i played no part in her therapy like she's not in therapy because of me no and beyond that it's a great time to be able to say like we were right you know

which always feels good to say we've really for Haley when it was unpopular. Like we knew she was that girl and we were right. And it encourages us to continue like sharing unpopular opinions because one day we will be right. Our unpopular opinions will bear fruit. And I feel like recently there have been a couple things that it was like, you know, I felt a certain way, but I didn't say it because it wasn't popular. And then it came home to roost.

Amanda Matuilah. I should have said it because I would have gotten the credit then. Yeah, right. No, but we truly. But you also can't go too hard. You can't go too hard. No, of course, of course. You don't want to end up in the mud.

It's a fine line. But a little encouragement to the unpopular opinions. And I sleep really well at night knowing, like, I played no part in the actual decade-long bullying stunt that was pulled on Miss Haley Bieber. And I actually fought against it. Yeah. I was on the right side of history. Yeah.

We were against the tide. Yeah. And I'm not like easily manipulated by internet, you know, like memes. Texan memes. Texas memes. She's Texas P.K. Have you been seeing that meme going around? It's actually the opposite of what we're saying,

but I found it really funny. It's like in a world where everyone's like on lip filler, Botox and peptides and fake and like, this is me. And it's like group crowds where like it's like the person in the middle of the group. Yes, I have seen the meme. It's a hysterical trope. It is. It's like a funny thing that followers are doing.

Yeah. At least you could be like a self-aware follower. It's group thinker. Yeah. Because I'm sure you've also seen the meme of like one person and then like a thousand. people and we are the one and the one is like no you're wrong and yeah that's what me talking about like lively like it it is so i'm with the thousand i'm actually not with the thousand i'm not in the picture you're not photographed not seen photographed no no you're not in that image

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I'll wait. I feel like a teacher. You won't indulge me in my, I did something crazy last night. It's like, why would I indulge you? Like, for real. I feel like I did a lot of indulging, though. To a point. So did I.

But the time is up. We're no longer indulging, I guess. We're no longer indulging all day jerk. We're no longer indulging all day, you know, I change it every time. Like the thing about I did something crazy last night. He's like, I'm just trying to change it. Yeah, what changes is the crazy thing that I did. Our fifth and final story is genuinely the craziest thing.

Someone actually did something crazy. Crack? Crazier. Meth? Crazier. Diana Rossini and Mike Vragel. The NFL drama. The NFL like Scandival.

We're caught kissing at a New York. This is the Scantival of the NFL. This is the craziest story. So we reported on a few weeks ago just because everyone was talking about it, like this person who works for the head coach of the Patriots and the football reporter for the New York Times, whatever the fuck that is, were caught at a same resort. Having an affair. At the same resort like, you know, holding hands, whatever.

And, you know, the NFL world was in a tizzy. They were both previously married, some old. like things that she had said, like disparaging her husband, reserved it. It was just like, it was genuinely hilarious. It was just a weird crazy affair story, whatever. Yeah, it was a fun time. Now it's like getting weird. It has taken a crazy turn.

So one, the two of them were caught kissing at a New York City bar in new photos that were just released that were taken six years before this scandal started. The photos are from March 2020, March 11th, actually two days before the pandemic. Who released these photos? Like, for real. Who's been holding on to them for six years? I don't know, like, maybe it was someone who, like, thought that they saw Mike Label and this lady kissing and then, like, nothing ever came of it. So they just, like, didn't do anything about it.

And then when this story came out, they were like, oh, my God, I think. Remember the time we went to a bar? And they've been, like, looking for their old phones since then. Ever since. And finally found the photos. They just got found the charger. So not only have old photos surfaced of them together at a bar in 2020, but people found an old tweet of hers. A couple old tweet.

that she tweeted this in 2021. I keep looking at my almost four-day-old son Michael while trying to figure out who are the best Michaels to ever play and coach in the NFL. Which, why would you be wondering that? Why would you be wondering? I guess if you're like, like we were just, you know, how we talk about like famous people

who share the same names as our sons. Yeah. If she works in sports, then I guess it actually could be innocent. But then somebody went back and figured, out that in November of 2020, she was in Nashville or Tennessee covering a game. And Mike Vrable was also in Nashville at the same time. And then her son was born nine months later, sort of saying that, like, they think that they've discovered that Mike is the real father of her child, who she named Michael. Michael. It's not.

It's implausible. It's not inconceivable, no. No. Because I had Charlie in August and I conceived him in November. Was he, this was six years ago. Like he's the new coach. Like what was he doing? Oh, he was obviously the head coach somewhere else,

maybe a college team. Right. You don't just become the head coach of the Patriots with no prior career. Right, right, right. So that doesn't say anything. And they were kissing in 2020. The internet is insane. The internet is insane.

They were kissing in March 2020. She had her son in August of 2021, and they are still carrying on an affair in 2026. It's entirely possible. It's not even like, oh, it's gaha funny. It's actually like likely. Yeah, I would say it's 50-50. She was still sleeping with her husband. And I actually think it's like it's actually so crazy and like inappropriate to like speculate

on the fraternity of her child. for real, but these crumbs are massive. They're not crumbs, yeah. They're loaves of bread. Yeah. And so she's going to need to say something and shut this shit down because it's a wild way that things have turned. If not true.

If it's not true. I wonder. Yeah. But you also like don't want to like, you know, feed the flames and you don't need to respond to everything that's just like so out of control. But like maybe this timing is all just so on. unfortunate. Like if you were having an affair, and she seemed to be having an affair with this guy in 2020. Well, it's crazy that she's having an affair while having kids. It's crazy that she was

having an affair and then named her child, the name of her boyfriend. The person. That's like what Adam Levine tried to do. Oh my God. Do you see Adam Levine's new face? No. You know I don't see new faces. He looks insane. I'm sorry. I'm face blind. Yeah, you are. You do have face blind. I'm actually, I'm new face blind. I don't see new faces. He looks like a woman. He looks like an older is that nice. Is that nice? I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. Like, like. Men getting facelifts is so weird because nobody asks that of them. Like they all get to age gracefully. So to get a facelift by choice.

I'm sorry, it needs to be spoken about because it's embarrassing as hell, especially a bad one like Bradley Cooper. Now Adam Lee and Jack, you have to look up a picture of him. He looks like someone's grandma. He looks like Diane Warren. Oh, wow. Yeah, right. Because it's funny.

This article has a picture, an old picture of him in Bahadia. I'm like, he looks the same. He looks the same. I'm going to scroll down and see if he looks any different. And he does. He really does. It's crazy. And he was like such a handsome guy.

I'm sure he was aging like totally fine. And also like men aging is like a nice look. It's a nice look and like the world lets them age gracefully and tells them how much better looking they get. So you're going to do all this when you don't have to. Like I don't even feel I never make fun of women who get bad faceless. Like the world made them this way. You know, like they had no choice.

It's at the Madam Chesot's Wax Figure Museum. Oh, no, no, no. That was a joke someone made. No, he's at like a breakthrough event. There's a joke. Someone made. Yeah, it is giving wax figure. Like wax figure gone wrong.

This isn't nice. I don't care. Like, seriously, if I didn't have to get a facelift, like I would never. And also he did DM like some bikini model. Influencer. I have a baby on the way. Should I name it after you? Sumner.

Summer with an end. And did they name it Sumner? No, thank God. I can't remember she's still with him between the facelift and the DMs. Like, girl, run. Historically, it's hard to get a guy. Historically, it's hard to get a boyfriend. But I don't know if that applies to Bahadhi Prinslow.

Honestly, she's like one of the most gorgeous Victoria Secret Finals. That I agree with that. That statement applies to like just regular people. Yeah, like regular daguilers. If you've walked in the Victoria's Secret Festival. I can show like that statement does not apply. Yeah. Or if you have like a ton of money.

Agreed. Like you're an heiress. Yeah. Yeah. I guess you could have a ton of money as a woman and not have inherited it. No, but I actually think you're making, but you know that list of female billionaires is all heiresses and widows. And divorcees.

Divorces, Mackenzie. But I think actually make a good point inadvertently, which is that like if you are a very successful business woman, it actually is hard to get a guy. A hundred percent. So you actually can only be. like an attractive wealthy woman if you've inherited it from a partner. Yeah, that's true. It's only attractive if you're like wealthy by blood, not by like sweat.

Yeah, like guys like don't like that. It's so true. Um, uh, like that's the way to be, like to be born an heiress, like sort of like Nicola Peltz. Like I understand why she's probably insufferable. She's an heiress. Yeah. Yeah.

She doesn't know how to not be. Yeah. And I don't think anybody finds her wealth like intimidating. And she's gorgeous. Like maybe if you're an. ugly heiress you have to work on your personality still Jackie there's no such thing as an ugly heiarris right because like you could buy your way out of your ugliness no but say you're like not a gorgeous heiress have you ever seen with those simi haze twins like their original faces yeah yeah

there's no such thing as an ugly arras it's true but okay say like until you were old enough to get reconstructive surgery yeah yeah just stay offline or you went to a school where everybody's really rich so it's like your money's not impressive and then you have to work on your personality like those are ways in which you could become like an interesting lovely heiress. It's beautiful. All is to say, this Diana Rossini story. Oh yeah. Mike Braybel.

I don't know how to pronounce any of their names. Has officially become the craziest thing I ever heard. It is really crazy. Because even if evolving. Even if like the child is her husband's and whatever, like the coincidences are staggering. And how could you. name your child the same name as the man that you kissed outside of your marriage a year and a half before. That's really crazy. I'm just going to leave it up that. Let's step into our TV recap. I didn't

watch a Beverly Hills reunion, but I will allow you to spoil it. I did see a great clip of Bo's talking about like her teaching course versus like Amanda's courses. Oh, let's talk about spin. That was crafty. It was, but I did. First of all, I appreciated that. Yeah, I appreciate it because of now on whenever I have something that's not successful. I'm going to say it was a charitable endeavor. We did not like, yeah, I lose money on it because, like, I care. We did not do it to make money. We did it to give back.

We did it. To give back to the people. To people who can't go to Harvard, like sleigh mama. It was a master class. That was the class I needed to go to Harvard for. Right. Of the spin. The art of the spin.

Whether or not that's the truth in what she set out to do when she published a class, like it doesn't matter. She just like won? Because once you say it's for charity, like, what can someone say? Really, what can someone say? But I'm definitely going to use that one for my next unsuccessful venture. Thank you both. Let's take it from the top.

So we started with Doreet V. Kyle. We talked about Doreet and P.K. Net, Nat, Dorete actually shared that her and P.K are in a very good spot as of reunion taping. Things are better for them. And she was very relieved about it. So we're all of the women. I hope that it stays that way because, you know, like what,

coming for her and, you know, whether or not they're in a good place or a bad place, like she's going to have to move and be a single mom and it's just hard. She's a hard word ahead of her. So like let it be less hard for her. I do want that for her. Yeah. We delved into Rachel being on the show and how open she's been and how she was surprised by how open she was.

Andy was surprised by how open she was. Like the viewers really appreciated it. And even though Roger, you know, has heard some of the things and is like not happy, she would not change it. Ultimately, she said she had a very hard summer. there were a lot of things that she did not share that were actually so much worse than what she did share. And that's why she was being so open

because it was like so, so crazy. How could she not just like share even the lesser crazy? But I think all in all, she had a really good experience and she's been so fat for the show. They pan to Amanda when they were saying how the viewers have really appreciated Rachel and she's gotten an outpouring of love and support. They pan to Amanda.

And I just want to say, like, I am not an Amanda Francis hater. And even when the hate was coming in like, hot and fast. Like I never really felt that way. Like I thought she was like kind of cringe and whatever, but I never like really hated her. And now I can appreciate her. They did talk a lot about how she is disparaging towards her husband,

both like to his face and in her confessionals. And she was like, oh no, he's not emasculated by it. Like it's just the truth. And the girls are like, he's not a masculated by it yet. But like these things will build and build. And it's true. Like if they have a real marriage, like of real two normal people in a marriage who love each other and need to like feel supported,

that's not going to end well. Sustainable. No one wants to hear that about themselves. I am not an Amanda Francis hater any longer, but I do feel that her behavior, I think in the beginning could be explained away. Like it's an intimidating group. She's obviously not at the level.

Like her rolling calls in Sedona was like embarrassing. But I really, really, really didn't like her behavior at whatever dinner party that was with Doreet, where she had been having a hard time because it was the anniversary. and she just sort of, I feel acted. She shouldn't have come, period. And I feel like she acted in a way that just kind of made the whole situation just impossible.

Like there's nothing to say when somebody says that. So, okay. Yeah. We'll say nothing. Yeah. I'll give her a pass for that, though, because it's a hard day for her. And so if she just wanted to shut it down, that's what she did. I'm not going to hold that against her.

They talked a lot about, like, the labels instead. And she was like, I thought this was a show about like rich women who have cool shit. And Erica was like, that's not all this is, though. Like you didn't bring anything other than that. And she's right for that. That's true. But on the other hand, from the moment Amanda came on the show, like, she wasn't welcomed warmly. People just like didn't like her off the jump.

So why would she start opening up and sharing? It wasn't like a warm welcoming environment. But I do think ultimately, like, she talks the talk and she walks the walk. And I think that the reason why she's so disparaging towards her husband about like how financially unsuccessfully is is to inspire women that like you could make this much of money. But as Rachel Zoh had said, like there are other ways to inspire women without actually verbally saying it. Like you can show rather than tell. Yeah. No, and it's just like you can spit it however you want.

Like it's disrespectful. Yeah. It really is. And it's unnecessary. But I think she's just trying to like prove her point about like money queen, money queen. Do you? Well, she was obviously miscast. want to say like I'm sorry she doesn't belong on this show I think that they've always maintained a level of

like a level that you genuinely cannot say that because she lives in the house that kyle lived in while being on the show for 10 years so she's at the level that kyle's out but i'm not even talking sorry i'm really not talking about only money obviously money there are women on the show who have a lot of money and like nothing else there are women who don't have a ton like erika doesn't have a ton of money right now. But I still feel like she's eligible for the show for other reasons. Like, well, you could be well connected. Like, I don't know, Amanda doesn't have anything in my opinion that makes her right for the show besides the fact that she lives in Conn Richards House. Yeah. Yeah. And I guess she has a divisive personality, but she is bringing like Crystal Kong millennial energy.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Crystal Kong had like one of the biggest houses and a husband who's one of the biggest directors in Hollywood. And it still wasn't enough. No, but it got, I got her, You know, three seasons. Yeah. I wouldn't say she was miscast. No, no, no. I don't think she vibes with the group. I think Amanda was miscast.

Yeah, perhaps. But I don't know. It's the first time they've really stepped out of their bounds. I do feel like nobody understands her. And I don't understand her. I'm not sure what there is to understand. But like maybe once we understand her and get to know her, it will all click. And I do think towards the end of the season,

I was like getting to some place of like understanding. But the women don't. So it doesn't work. but I could see next season, like her just finding a better way to show who she is. Mm-hmm. And making some connections. I could see it. I don't, like, I'm not totally out on her, but it just must be, like, hard to go up against, like, Rachel's first season, which was a slam dunk.

Yeah. Yeah. And then, you know, Kyle and Durit fighting some more. I can't stand, Kyle. Oh, my God. Yeah. And Erica and Durit fighting. And they're so funny because, like, during the break, Doreet, like, goes to get makeup out of this, like, little Chanel.

pouch and Erica's like I got that for her and Erica's like I got that is that the one I got for you and Doreet's like yeah that's how meaningful you were in my life and Erica's like yeah and I and you were meaningful to me too they're like fighting over who cared about each other more and then they're like fucking bitch like that's so funny and at the start of the episode like and he's like do you guys think there can be any resolution today and Doreet was like I'm open and Erica's like I'm not hopeful well the thing is is that I do feel like there's a lot of love between Doreen Erica and If it weren't for Kyle, I do think there would be an easier path forward. But with Kyle and Dorit, I think there's no love.

There's nothing. Like, there's nothing worth saving. They should not be friends. They really shouldn't. We shouldn't even bother trying. Erica and Durit, I feel like there's stuff there. But Erica's closeness with Kyle makes it almost impossible. Yeah.

And then Erica spoke about her new relation. She shared some more intimate details about her relationship with Tom and how things were not as it seemed. I mean, like there's a lot that we knew that came out more recently. It's just like Andy cited, you know, a lot of the times Tom was on the show and he always like played this like starry-eyed husband. He'd go backstage at Erica's shows and like, was that all an act? And Erica was like, yeah, no, I wonder that too. But like, ultimately he didn't come to see me on Broadway.

Like, I don't think he supported me. He didn't think I was going to even get the show when I, because Andy was like, how did he feel about you going on the show? And she was like, he didn't think I was going to get it. And then when she did, there was like nothing you could really say. I need a really bad first season. I wonder if he was like really mad. I forget about that time when like Erica was on and like she brought him to like two dinners before he was like really, really old.

And he was just like so rude and weird. Remember with Lisa and Ken? I actually don't remember feeling that way. And I feel like if he was rude and weird, we probably all chalked it up to like him being just like older. No, no. He had like a couple of really bad looks that first season and then he stopped. Like she literally like didn't let him film anymore. Or he didn't film anymore.

Sure. Well, the place looks great. It always does. Let's dive into Queenie and Winnie, our final segment of the week where Jackie and I like to take a look back at the week. You know, wrap it up in a bow, give out two awards, Queenie and Ween of the Week. They're pretty self-explanatory. Don't be upset if you find yourself. Weenie one week, you could be Queenie another.

It's a seven-day title. Let's start with Queenie. I think I'll go first. Okay. I'd like to share my Queenie of the Week because I think what this person did this week should be supported. should be, I want other people to like want to be Queenie of the Week. And so they'll do what Dylan Spouse did. They'll protect, like, you don't hear enough about just like a man protecting his family,

you know? And that's exactly what Dylan Spouse did. And I love him for it. And he would have been my Queenie of the Week like anytime he comes up because I just happen to love them as a couple. But I love even more so what he did this week. And I do want to give justice to you because I think people were accusing you of like not, showering Rick Hilton with love and affection when he did the same thing.

Yeah, because the same thing happened and I didn't say it was like hot. I think that you did though. I kind of think I did too. I think it's attractive when like men stand their ground and defend their homes. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. And I think that's a good one.

Great. Thank you. I'm going to give my queenie of the week to an entity. Okay. I'm going to give it to Hulu. They had a big week. You know what? Yeah, they're really crushing it.

Job well done. you know? Yeah. In the all hands. Like we can pat ourselves on the back. We're crushing it. But I just want to say like

these shows better be good. And they better come. So many things can announce to never come. So true. My weenie of the week is somebody like it's, I'm going to say who it is

and it's not even for one thing. I feel like there were like three things this week that I kept making fun of Andy Cohen for. First of all, his attitude on Watch happens live was so fucking crazy. Like I just think that would be

weenie of the week. Second of all, that statement he put out today about like the hurts and the first. feelings of the cats in the crew like please grow up and the third he hyped up this week's episode of summer house far too much that's three strikes you're a ween i just want to say i am the hardest on andy cohen like i really am like he's sort of entering ben plat territory for me oh no

but i i was actually having an opposite thought when i was watching the beverly hills reunion last night i was like he's really masterful at the reunions and so many other shows get reunions now and nobody can really do it. And like he manages. And yes, a couple times he fucked up, Monique Candice, like I'm not going to go back there. A couple times he is like waited.

But for the most part, he asks every question that we need to hear. He navigates the conversation successfully. He never, you know, doesn't ask the follow up question. The thing that we want to hear next, he knows how to like move these conversations along between like huge personalities.

And he said last night he's done like 150 reunions. And like that's really masterful. I completely agree. It's interesting. that not one other network, not one other person has been able to successfully been able to master the art of the reunion hosting. It's obviously very hard. He is the best. He's a generational talent, honestly. And of course, he's not perfect, Monique v. Candice. Of course. But I agree. And he doesn't get his flowers enough for that. No. And clearly no one else can do. It also requires,

like, like, a lot of hours of watching the shows. And some of them, he probably doesn't like or doesn't care about. Not every season is amazing. But he watches them. Like, he does it. And he just, like, knows how to make a reunion. And like yesterday must have been so grueling. But like I know for a fact, we're getting what we need because he's at the helm. I sat behind him on a flight once. It was a six hour flight. He watched episodes. And I can tell it was screeners because it had like the clock on the left corner. He watched the entire time. And in his books, which are like diaries of his days for like over the course of like a year, he has, he's like watched 10 episodes today. He really does watch everything. Yeah. I mean, he has to. There's no way to phone that in.

Yeah. So just to say. something nice about him. Don't get used to it. Don't get used to it. I don't have a weenie. Oh, wow. Okay. I'm being positive, you know. Well, that's our show. That's our week. Thank you all for a splendidiferous week. And we'll see you. Oh, somebody told me a better way to wrap up the show. Okay. Well, the place looks beautiful. It always does. Thank you so much for listening to the awesome one and morning show. We do the last five stories. I need to know everybody on YouTube. So we're watching us on YouTube. Please feel for for describe and give us video a thumbs up. We're also available as a podcast anywhere you can find your podcast, which is Spotify and Apple Podcasts. Head over there,

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