The Toast - Lexi Truthers: Thursday, April 9th, 2026

Episode Date: April 9, 2026

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It's Jackson, Claude and every show the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off, swirly. It's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy The Thursday. And speaking on her, it's her. It's her. She. Welcome back.

She her. She her. Welcome back to me, you guys. If my, um. Welcome back to me. Is that what you just said? Yeah. Happy to be back.

Introducing me. Without further ado, me. If I'm like a little off today, I didn't realize that Harry was playing in my studio yesterday. And when I came in, like, things, it wasn't crazy, but like a bunch of buttons had been pressed. Yikes. Oh, my God. I know. I think we, like, everything looks the same from where I'm sitting right now.

But this has never happened before. It was crazy raining yesterday. So we played upstairs. We had to, like, discover new corners of the house. and I went downstairs to get him a snack and I left the gate close. I was more so worried about the steps. I was like as long as he doesn't get on the stairs,

like it's fine. I didn't even think about the studio. When I walked up here, I'm like, why are the lights on? All right. Well, if Jackie looks or sounds odd, just blame Harry. Yeah, but like you can't.

And no, I think it's fine, but it's just funny. Like this, no one ever goes in here. And I was like, we'll see. Someone's been in here. Yeah. Well, we'll just have to say. It was like bound to happen.

It's true actually. You need a gate. I have a gate, but it was like... No, you need a gate for the door. Or like a lock, a keypad, like with a cordage of code. A lock, yeah. Okay. Live and learn.

I'm here. Welcome to you. Yeah, which I think is a huge deal. As far as I know yet, I have not contracted notovirus. My husband was just like in the throes of it yesterday. We quarantined him. It felt like COVID. He was not allowed to leave the room.

I kept like leaving stuff for him outside the door. Drama. I mean, he was being like seriously convalescing like a woman who just had a facelift. Like he was just like on the couch with like hot compresses, warm compresses, heating pad, dramamine, like body armor, water, the drama. He's bright eye bushy tell this morning. I think the worst is behind it for him. I feel like I'm going to give myself another 24 hours to assume that I don't have it. And if it did hit my home and miss me completely. Oh, and Phil. Yeah, I'm one of God's chosen ones. But don't celebrate yet. You're not out of the woods yet.

If I'm here tomorrow, like, we're good. Yeah, because then you can have it over the weekend and that doesn't conflict with our schedule. Oh, no, I mean, we're good like I don't have it. Yeah. No, no, no. You're looking good. Things are looking good. We're also simpatico today in our little, like, oatmeal pants.

I kind of think oatmeal's my color. I want my whole life to be oatmeal. Not life, because I don't even like oatmeal as a food. My whole wardrobe to be oatmeal. I'm feeling like it's my color. I don't know if it matches with it. the profile that the color analyst gave to me, but I just like refused to be bound by the colors

that the analyst gave me. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, like everyone said I look great and brown. I don't know if that was on my sheet, but it brown to me is like, that's a neutral. Neutral. O'Mail is like a neutral. It's like wearing white. Yeah, everyone looks good in white. We're black. Everyone looks good in black. And oatmeal. I did something, I did something crazy last night. You watched. No.

You read Next to Heaven. How did you know that? You wrote it in our group chat. I'm cracking up. Yes, I did write it in the group chat. My beat. Not me spoiling the toast.

Yeah, I started a book, which is crazy, because I've kind of been, like, struggling with my reading literacy. Comprehension. Yeah. But I did. I read. And I read this book that Jackie recommended.

It was a redhead's pick. It's been my next book forever. And I've had it on my nightstand. I bought a physical copy. And it's just taking me about a month to actually open it up. And boy, do I wish I started sooner. gotta get me a house in New Brunswick.

Any of the toasters here listening live in New Brunswick? If so, I got to come up for the weekend. I got to see what this book's all about. It's called New Brunswick? Yeah. Well, it's a fake town, but it's like based on... Wait, it's a fake town? Yeah, the town that they're in, like, isn't...

That name is not like a real town, but it's like models. Yeah, it is. No, it might be a town. It might be like a name of a town, but not the town. It's like modeled after like Greenwich, Connecticut or like Bedford. wait it's not a true story wait i didn't think it was a true story but they talked a lot about this town and how so many wealthy people ended up there and how it's such a pargy town in it's not new brunswick and they gave they gave the history of the town yes of the town and how it became

to be there's certainly a town in connecticut or upstate new york that has that same history blah blah but it's not that town and it's definitely not brunswick in the book next to heaven What town do they live in? Is the town New Brunswick a real place? Where are you getting Brunswick? Jackie, because I googled it. I'm reading the book last night. It's called New Bethlehem.

Thank you. Yeah, because it was all about like this. Wait, I'm fucking cracking up. Jackie. They would never. Wait, wait. The book was like so many famous people live here. And so I was like, Google, they were saying a famous author, a famous athlete,

but they wouldn't say who. So I Googles people who live in New Brunswick, famous people. And they were like, there are no. What a waste of your time. So they live in New Bethlehem, which is not a real place. Like maybe you live in a town in New Bethlehem, Maryland. I'm not talking to you. They're talking, they're like in Connecticut or like upstate New York.

It's not a real place based loosely on wealthy Connecticut towns, especially New Canaan. I read the book six months ago. Oh my God. I'm so upset. I was literally on Zillow like looking for a house in New Brunswick. I'm fucking cracking up. No. I am really like not a smart person.

You're not insane. You were right. You are struggling. I am. That's like so great. So it's based, it's called New Bethlehem in the book, and it's loosely based on New Canaan. So you might want to look for a house in New Canaan.

Not to be like a know at all, even though I clearly know fucking nothing. It's actually pronounced a new Canaan. Well, it would be if we're speaking Hebrew. If you went to Hebrew school, then you know it's a new Canaan, which is the original name for the land of Israel. Yeah. If you're speaking Hebrew, it would be Canaan. But if you're speaking English. No, if you're sort of authentic, you're saying,

So you don't call Jerusalem? Yerushalayim, shalesahav. But you don't ever say Jerusalem. No. I literally the other day, I said Yerushalim. I don't say Jerusalem. I saw it on your story. I say Simla.

You do say Simla. Like I obviously, I'm authentic. I'm literally that character from the funny or die sketch. But you don't say an accent. Because it's not an accent. It's just how I speak. I'm so authentic. It's not a costume.

It's not a costume. So you like the book? I like the book and I didn't watch TV so I feel so smart even though we're not off to a great start which is reset. Yeah, I read and I was like sleeping in my bed alone but Ben was in the other room. It was such a weird feeling.

I felt like one of those couples that sleep in separate bedrooms. I will say I slept amazing. I feel like that actually works for you because it's not that you don't want to sleep alone. It's like you don't want to be in the house alone. But wait, he could be in the house but not in the bed. I am onto something because I

When Ben's gone, I'm so afraid. The whole night, I'm up. I'm like, no, I'm afraid. I'm sleeping and I'm like, what was that? I have crazy dreams. It's the worst most fitful sleep. But knowing that there was like a man in the house who was closer to the front door than me and I got the bed to myself.

What's bad? What's bad? We're going to become one of those couples. You should keep poisoning him. Yes. Somebody who has a go-to-virus come over. Keep him sick. You can't keep a good girl down.

You know? Yeah. Well, I shopped last night. I didn't watch TV. I was going to watch the Valley, but then the shops were calling my name. Life got in the way. Yeah, I actually am like working on something.

I'm vlogging it. So I like didn't want to spoil the vlog, but I think the vlog might be like part one and two. But I just like, I need to tell everyone like I'm redoing my kitchen. Oh, yeah. For those of us who have been here like on the journey, we know it's kind of been, it's kind of been a drama and a half.

It has been. But no, like no, I haven't. like told anyone and then I just sort of like started and I don't I don't even think I took content for transition real. It's like I don't know what I'm doing but I've been vlogging it for Patreon. So I felt like I'm making content but I'm like wait. I didn't even tell anyone you guys are going to see like open cabinets in the back of my kitchen like I'm doing my kitchen. So I was shopping for my kitchen like slabs and things no like faucets and hardware very microwave. We're finally having a built in microwave. Do you know in every place I've lived in since I've been with

Zach coincidence? I do know this in my house here. In our former apartments, none of them had a built-in microwave. We always had like a random one on the counter if we wanted a microwave. She has like a freestanding microwave that plugs into an outlet. Honestly, every time I'm at your house, I can never find it. I always move it around because it's not going to move. It's moving in freestanding. It's moving in gray oven.

I know it sounds like a lot of fun, like slabs and faucets and mood boards and things. But I've been along for the journey on like your design process. And I just want to say, I think remodeling and just designing homes. First of all, I don't have a knack for it. So that's, I'm already off to a bad start. It is genuinely one of the most unfun, unpleasant things to do. And I feel like when the time comes,

that, like I do like settle down by a house wherever that is. Like, I'm gonna need one of those, like, Shannon's like a builder grade home where like I just literally want to come in with my toothbrush and a pair of underwear. Yeah. Yeah, but even builder grade,

like then you do have to like design it. They don't buy furniture and do molding and all that. Somebody needs to like start a firm. like a design architecture firm where it's called like toothbrush the toothbrush firm and all you need to do is bring your toothbrush like why can't I buy a house and like all the furnitures there already you know well sometimes you can especially if it's like stage with furniture no I'm sorry I don't buying a furnish smelly old couch no but if it's stage like the stagers you can wind up buying it and it's always like really nice everyone just uses like restoration hardware which is like super pargy everyone uses restoration hardware I don't know that to be true no like in like a nice staged home they go with that vibe sorry it might not be R8 brand but like that's the that's the vibe which is really beautiful. When I was like spending my sabbatical in Florida over the last couple of months Ben and I were looking at some places there and every time I went in I'm like oh is this your furniture oh my guess this is your furniture and they're like no it's staged and I was like can you

like I felt so low brow but I'm like can you buy the staged furniture they were like I guess like can I have a stager come just like stage my home I just am so uninterested and I feel like that's why I'll never truly be saddled because in order to like have a home you have to put in the work like you have to go find the house a lot of them most of them especially if you're a cardboard cogey like need work if you want to get a good deal yeah and it's like well I guess I'll just live in a rental forever like I just can't that may work for you but I just want to say now that we started the work it's so exciting I'm loving it and living with like all the like yeah oh my gosh I feel like I'm in the second season of OC when like Sandy and kirsten are getting a new kitchen

they can't use their kitchen and like they're on the brinkup divorce except like Zach and I are doing really great. Yeah, you're thriving. No, like, it really hasn't been that intrusive yet. Like, I can still work in my kitchen. It's like, you'll see in the vlog why, like, how we're doing it. And I just find every day to be so exciting. Like, I got a new, a faucet that arrived yesterday that's being installed on Friday and like, let me tell you, I've never been so excited about a faucet. Fosset's greater than. Are you DIYing, like, any element? Like, are you getting involved? Are you just truly letting the professionals handle it? So I got like new outlet covers like marble outlet covers like to match my marble and I will attempt to unscrew my old ones.

I actually think you can do it. And if I can, like I'll just ask the carpenter to do it. It'll take him two seconds. But I'm going to attempt it. Yeah, I like that. Like I'm so excited about my new outlet covers. That's so exciting. It's so exciting.

I just want to say like if you like have a project that you know you need to do or like you think like, oh, we'll do it next time we leave town or like whenever, whatever. Just start. It's so exciting. It's so exciting. I wish I did it sooner. Yeah, although I do feel like the excitement like quickly wears off and just the novelty of not having a functional kitchen becomes the primary thing. The way that we're doing it, like our major appliances aren't moving and still work.

So like I can still cook dinner. I might make a chili today. I made a chili over the weekend. I may make a chili in my half kitchen. Half kitchen. Yeah. Like some people have half baths. I have a half kitchen.

Half kitch. I had a chili over the weekend. And tell me about the experience. It was divine. Would you recommend for a friend? I would recommend especially for a Passover meal because although, you know, I love to use chips and rice for my chili. I just used Mata and it was very good. But you can have chips. Technically, like, no, like the potato.

Yes, like not really. And like I was being, you know, as the authentic experience of MOTA. And as the holiday progresses, like, of course, this was day two. Your walls come down. you're like firing on all cylinders on day two and you feel like a true child of God. Oh, speaking of God, give me two seconds. Then, you know, as the days go on tonight,

it does end and I just want to say I'm so grateful. Like the way I desperately need like a bowl of pasta. Yeah, I haven't had pasta. Just to like tell myself a little bit, I don't keep Passover that strictly, like not to be like a total heretic. I do keep in a sense like I don't eat bread. Like slices of bread.

bake bread. That to me would be blasted me. If I was like literally having pargy loaves when like they couldn't get their bread to rise. Like however like I do think like they could have grabbed a pretzel if they had a pretzel they would have grabbed a pretzel. Oh my God. I would love a pretzel. Right. So I don't keep it that closely. But I haven't had pasta. I haven't made a pargy loaf and I do. Pasta is so good. Yeah. Miss pasta. I just want to say I was a person who was like severely impacted by a random documentary. I watched once on Netflix called Keep Sweet Pray and Obey. which was about the fundamentalist LDS, like this offshoot of Mormonism. They lived in like this, you know, ranch in Utah, and it was just really awful. Like they, the guy ended up going to prison for like 50 years

because he was married to like a million women, including minors, and there was like a lot of abuse. It was terrible. And then when the documentary came out, I guess it like revived parts of the remaining people in the religion. And this new guy took over. And they were making a documentary about it. it like a sequel to Keep Sweet, Pray, and Obey. And it just came out the trailer on Netflix that

what started out as like an innocent documentarian ended up being like the documentarian infiltrating the cult. One of the wives reached out term. It's like there's so much abuse going on. Like you have to help us. And like taking it down from within. So like I don't even know if it's technically considered a documentary anymore. And he's now in prison. And I just want to say like if you were a Keep Sweet Pray and Obey Girl, you have to watch a new documentary on Netflix. I haven't seen it yet. I don't even know if it's out yet. But they just dropped the trailer. And it's kind of taken the world by storm. Oh, interesting. You didn't segue. that at all. I was still waiting. I said speaking of God. I was still, I was like waiting for her

a tie back to Passover. I'm like, and then they had a matto. God. Understood, understood. I'm like, they had leavenbread. Was the leavening in the room with us? God. But not even, don't insult God. She could be a Christian. Don't insult God by associating those people. No, no, I'm not. I'm not. You meant religion. I don't even know if I would insult religion by calling it a religion. You know, I have thought today because I was watching as I do my morning squirrel on TikTok, which I feel like has really set me up for like, I feel like I'm always bringing like recently, like interesting facts to the show.

Sound office was why you bring interesting facts to the show. Yeah, relevant stories that like my grandma sister doesn't know. I was watching my TikTok. I feel like most of the things that you bring up like I've seen of them, but I don't know the deeds. You know, I'm literally like the explainer. Yeah, Claudia explains it all, our favorite segment. Turt explains it all. Well, I was watching stuff about euphoria.

I don't know if the first episode came out yet or whatever. I am going to watch it, but just it was, I was like, one of the interviews from the red carpet, someone was talking about the cast members who have passed away. Like there's, you know, Angus Cloud and Eric Date. And you know what? I feel like nobody's made this comparison yet, and so I just want to put it out there.

Doesn't it feel like euphoria is like very much like a modern version, like this generation's glee, where it's like this very successful show. and it seems kind of cursed and like in different ways but I feel like there's like a similar vibe I don't want to not support your calls Oh but because it's but you can't not

Because it's literally ingrained in your blood But I don't support this call And I don't have that feeling at all But also like euphoria is It's not even a blind spot for me It's like I'm turning a blind guy You know I turn a blind eye to euphoria

She's taking a moral high ground Like when I thought you were gonna Tell me about Kailer Ngarro Like tell me about the great of TikTok, don't tell me about euphoria. I'm just glad, like, we're all now, like, it's coming to light, like the lack of support for my calls. It's really, it's fantastic.

And I'm just going to keep making them. And I'm actually going to keep making worse and worse calls just to set you up. Why? But you should do it to, like, see, it's like a test. Actually, I don't know what that would prove other than I don't know. I mean, we all agree. Like, you don't support my calls. And I support your calls to the death.

Like, because you know what it is? Like I think you're so smart, you know? Like to me, it's like my big sister. What if I made a call? What if I made a call and you just didn't agree with it? What would you say? I'm not capable. Like, seriously, in my DNA.

You're literally such a dissenter. You're always arguing with me. I'm not capable of not agreeing with you. Okay. And I never argue with you. I don't even know what you're talking about. Okay, so you agree that euphoria and glee are not similar. No, I'm not going to agree with your rejections of my brilliant.

and calls. And like those who know, no, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Um, anything else on the talk that you have to alert us about? Just more Artemis. Artimus. Cudy. You know, they're entering a part of orbit where like they will be out of communication. I miss them. For like 45 minutes. I miss them. But them coming back on is like, you know, a big deal. Yeah. Because like if they're not, I feel like that's one of those movies, you know? Yeah. Or it's like it's 45 minutes for us, but it's five years for them. That's like interstellar. If they go into like a different time, space continuum.

And people are making like so many TikTok edits. I can face the odds. I can go the distance. Because that woman is actually, I didn't realize she's like a history maker. She's the first woman to orbit the moon. Oh, wow. Mm-hmm. Major for womankind.

Major. One small step for womankind. It's like. Slay Mama, the future is female. Her story is happening today. It is. That's pretty cool. I know. I wonder what she's doing about her period.

Well, hopefully her period doesn't come out of her throat due to gravity. Like, we're seriously disgusting. Like, the first woman in space and we're talking about her period. But it's a part of Toastler. If you guys don't know, we had a very viral video like a couple of years ago where we were like, I wonder what happens if you go to space with your period. Like, does gravity cause the period? to come out of your throat

or like does the tampon even stay in because of gravity like whatever it's like kind of an honest and raw conversation but we would never like diminish a woman's accomplishments to her period just so you know. No but like that we don't even like talking about periods.

That would be so inconvenient in the space suit? Not only would it be so fucking inconvenient and having to change your tampon like in close quarters with three other in the spaceship but also no that's it sorry I didn't have anything else

how long end to end is the journey? I don't know and it's been what a couple of days. I don't know. Maybe she like planned. It's so hard to be a woman. It is so hard. You know what I mean?

Like how unfair. I do know what you mean. Let's wrap. Let's just end the show because it's too hard to be a woman. Oh, I love that. Sorry, I can't come today. I'm a woman. Love.

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Thank you, Turd-Back. You're welcome, Jerdback. Our first story, some scandal in sports world that has everyone a Twitter. New England Patriots is Mike Vrable and top New York Times NFL reporter Diana. Rossini were spotted holding hands and hugging at a luxury hotel. Have you not seen this? No. You haven't seen these pictures? I saw that and I thought it was Bill Belichick. No.

So he is. Okay, explain to me like why, like who are the players and why I care. He's the head coach for the Patriots. Okay, so like formerly Bill Belichick. The new Bill Belichick. Yeah. The new Bill Belichick. So that's a big job.

Oh, and then remind me to tell you about what happened with Alex Earl. She used to be an anchor on ESPN Sports Center. And now she works for the New York Times' NFL publication called The Athletic. That everyone reads. But anyway, she's a big sportscaster in the NFL. He's a coach. They were spotted together in Sedona, like holding hands and then sitting poolside together. They're both married.

Also. Who would recognize these people enough to take a picture of them? And the person who recognized them and took pictures has pictures of them all over the hotel. Like when she sees them from afar, she takes a picture. And then also. How do you know it's a woman? Because it's a woman. And when the lady walks past her at the pool, she takes a picture.

Look, look at this. she's obviously and then now old clips are resurfacing of like this lady oh I saw this on Liz Wood's story and I just thought it was a funny clip like somewhat recent so I was cracking up but now I understand she's a long history of like degrading her husband publicly right she old clips are resurfacing of like things that she used to say about him

on her show when she was on sports center just saying how he's like average and ugly and a loser like really mean she joked about her marriage falling apart she's like kind of crazy yeah yeah um and now it seems as though she's stepping out on her man's with like someone else in the sports world, which makes it like a scandal for people. It's giving Amy and TJ. Yeah, it is.

Yeah, thanks for supporting my call. You're welcome. This is so funny. Okay, like I've seen all the content that you just referenced. I did not know how they were connected with the back story was. Wait,

can I quickly tell you Alex Earl? I meant to tell you this. Sure. So she did get ready with me like two days ago being like, get ready with me to go on a first date. And yeah, I thought it was like shockingly. She's so authentic.

She's so authentic. Yeah. And then she did like an un-get-ready with me. And Slay, because this video was so interesting and she was doing her whole skincare routine with Re-L. Yeah. But she was basically saying how she doesn't think there's going to be a second date. But I told the story of this like very strange date. It was at like 3.30. And she had plans that night. Like so he came and picked her up and was like dinner's at 7.30 in Malibu. And she's like, oh, like, that's like a day date. Like I have stuff to do tonight. I mean, he was like, but I'm so hungry right now. And she was like, okay, I'm not that hungry. And he, like, took her to Starbucks. No. She was like, I got, like, a coffee and, like, he got a croissant or something. And then we were just, like, driving around Malibu.

Like, the plan was, like, to go to Malibu and, like, walk on the beach a little bit. And, like, hang out and then, like, have dinner. Or have a meal. Like, the timing was weird. It sounds like she didn't have her schedule on lock either. Like, no, no, no. He was just very loose with it. And she was like, I have a date at 3.30.

I can go out that night. Yeah. And it's in Malibu. do. So she like tells the story. He's like driving around. She's like just driving. And he's driving further and further away from. And she was like, are we going somewhere? Like we're driving really far. He's like, oh, no, no. I'm just like driving. And then she started to get a little scared. She was like, I'm like in a car with a strange man. She was like, we should like do something like go to a farmer's market or whatever. I actually didn't finish watching the video because like something

happened. But I just thought it was so funny that this guy took her to Starbucks. And you're telling me none of you saw Alex Earle and this random at Starbucks and took a picture. So then I was actually going to put it out on my Instagram. But like I didn't want to be. a drama. Like, I need, like on a biblical level, I need to know who this day was. Because obviously it was someone high profile, whether it's an individual who's wealthy or a celebrity. And like, Dumas, if you are worth your salt, you will find out who the fuck this is. A hundred percent. I just like need to know the kind of guys that she's dating. Don't call yourself Dumas if you can't find out. I'm being dead serious. And maybe she like got a tip. Like Alex are all spotted with like random, you know,

tech startup guy at Starbucks. And she was like, no, she fucking cares. No, she was like, I don't believe you. because it's not believable. And the comments were like, girl, this is a bad date even for like our standards, like regular people. This is Starbucks. It was really crazy. I thought it was crazy that she was like talking about it so publicly. Not Starbucks.

And then it ended up being this like catastrophic date. Oh my God. Well, she definitely doesn't want a second date because he's obviously going to see that. And he wouldn't want to go out with her getting either knowing that she spilled the beans. Yeah. So she doesn't care. I often wonder about people who make like dating. content, how you can, like, genuinely show your face.

No, you can't show your face. And if you ever do wind up liking someone, then your content is done. Like, unless that person's thirsty and it's, like, happy to be a part of it. But, like, who are you? Unless, let me introduce you to someone who I know you don't know. Her name is Danielle Walters. I don't know. And I just want to say, like, I will, like, defend this girl till I die.

Tell me what she did. She did a lot of, like, single girl dating content, like, very from the POV of, like, hopeless romantic, right? Like, you know, really looking for a night and shining armor, a prince charming, whatever. And she goes on dates and recaps them while she does her makeup, talks about like this guy, that guy. She never says their name. She's like, oh, the guy from Starbucks or whatever. And people were just like along for the journey because it was very relatable, just like this hopeless romantic, like normal, nice girl looking for a normal, nice guy and just like not being able to do that. Yeah, and just like funny dating hijinks. And then she started dating the

guy. And it moved very quickly. And as she was sharing like date number one, date number two, and she would, you know, share a lot about, like, milestones and, like, when you say, I love you. And, like, people were really taken aback at the speed in which the whole thing was happening. And they were taking things that she said being like, he's love bombing you. He's abusive. You know, like, the way people just run with things. And she was, like, a decently popular TikToker. But this particular relationship that she got into and then documenting it really put her on a level of, like, like, the wrong side of the internet.

And she became so deeply hated. Like, Reddit, hate accounts. but like literally in in fucking sane and it kind of blew up this like her and her boyfriend she's like I have a boyfriend like it was so cute and sweet whatever then she disappeared for like a couple of weeks months and then she comes back and her content is very highly produced so she comes back with this series and she's like sitting on a park bench and she just introduces everyone to her boyfriend I don't have to tell you the threads I met him once yada yada he's just a guy like I don't know anything about him I think he used to be an Uber driver they say he's like really thirsty and famous like who

fucking cares um they just got engaged okay I don't know and to end how long it's been. It's obviously like a fast moving relationship, but she's a woman of a certain age and she doesn't give a fuck. And she like, you know, she does things her own way. Like she knew she was getting engaged. They kind of set a date for it.

They're very intentional with each other. They're like deeply in love. Why did I bring this up? You said, because I don't know. Because I said, how can you get out of that doing that sort of content when you find a real relationship because who would want to be like. Well, now he's a part of it.

And I think he also was like a little content creator before also. So he's a little Thursday. Okay. So that's what I said. You have to be with a thirst monster. Yeah, no, and just like seriously, leave her alone. Thurts monsters need love too. Thurtsons just because someone is a thirst monster,

which like a lot of like men are, especially of women who are reality stars. Successful. Like doesn't mean they can't also be a decent partner. Agreed. And it's like I'm thirsty. I'm a good person. I'm a thirsty person.

Like what's wrong? Thirsty is just like a code word for networking. Like I'm sorry, if he was a C-speed executive moving like that, like you guys wouldn't think twice of it just because it's on the internet. If he's using you, if he doesn't love you, you if he actually dislikes you and just like pretends like you've heard that's a different thing. But like you have to be with someone then who's like or you no longer do that sort of content or you're with someone who's like down to clown and up for that sort of lifestyle, which not

everyone is. Agreed. So that's why it's kind of tough like when you actually do find a relationship when you make that sort of content or you even, not even a relationship like someone you want to go on a third date with. It's like wait, what do I tell them about the last date? What if he sees it? And then he knows how I felt about our last date.

That's what's weirder. Yeah, of course. I mean, I don't know if I'd be defending this girl if she wasn't getting so much. I have yet to hear what she's done wrong. It's insane. She's just moving in ways in her relationship and her dating life that like other people wouldn't.

Like, okay. It's giving jealous. They think all of her content is like so staged and fake. Even though she was up front with her audience being like, no, no, we planned when to get engaged. She's not hiding anything. Like it's just not how, you know, I would do it or it's not how someone else would do it.

That doesn't make it wrong. Yeah. She's like a sweet little girl. And she like put a lot of wallpaper up in her house. It's how she got viral. She was doing all these crazy DIY. She lives in a really cute apartment that she, like, designed herself completely.

I've gotten to the wallpaper stage. I just, I just got past engagement. That's funny. I'm surprised she didn't come up for me because, like, I look at everyone with wallpaper. Is she on reels? She's unreal. She's a real person.

She's a real person for sure. Well, Mazel to her, I don't see the problem. Yeah, I don't see the problem either. But I don't know how people like actually show their face when they, like, actively date. It was like, say you went on a first date with someone and you had a good time, But your job is to talk about your dates.

So you, like, made an Instagram. Right, but the thing with Alex Earle is that is actually not her job. So she, like, actually didn't have to do this. But like someone else. And then you make a video, like, I just had a great first date. He's like this and that. And then he saw that. I would die.

I would seriously die. No. No. Seriously. It's like that one time I made a vine about Ben. You know, I never recovered from it. I'm still talking about it 15 years later. Yeah, but you kind of like slayed.

Slade. I would say you slayed into spite, like not because of. My digital footprint. A thousand percent. Okay, back to this, like, NFL drama. Yeah, everyone, like, wants the next astronomer, wants the next DJ name me. Now, this is the astronomy of the sports world. Sure, I'm just, like, not in the mood today.

I know. I know. And because I didn't even know of one of these people, not a name, not a nothing, I can't now care. I can't now, like, and that would be so phony, be like, outrage. How could Mike Rable do that to his beloved? I don't know Mike Rable. Maybe he could do that.

Maybe he's. This is my play. Maybe he does it all the time. That's like a lot of the rhetoric on Scamand of all right now where it's like, oh, I don't know the players. Like, can somebody catch me up? It's like, no. Sorry.

Like, we've put in the work. And if you don't know the players, you will never understand why it is so significant. Because when I say, oh, it's her friend's ex-boyfriend from two years ago. They dated for six months. And now she just got divorced. And now she started dating him like, okay, that's kind of kosher. Like a little. But it's about the fact that her whole schick when she didn't have a lot on the show,

aside from her marriage was like girl coat in the bed girls crying sierra like you had to have watched that over and over again every week for the last two years to understand my such a betrayal it's so true like and actually bethany is kind of in hot water because she was doing press and was asked about it and she obviously doesn't know like deep the lore she's like what's a big deal a castmate dated another castmate's boyfriend who she dated for a couple of months yeah yeah and it's like well it's so much deeper than that bethany but okay i saw bethany's take and that's obviously not my take but like i appreciate the take i first of all like when people say different stuff and i especially like when it's not popular, like, it doesn't mean that she's right or wrong or we all have to

be like, oh, how could she say that's what she thinks. Great. No, I also gather that she doesn't actually know the context. Even if she actually knew, because even when you know, like, no one committed any crimes, there's no adultery here. It's just bad form and it's bad friendship. It's just shocking. It's just shocking is what it is.

It's just shocking. And then also knowing. And I just want to say the label of Amanda, like, and I agree with you what you said. Like her whole thing was girls, girls, girl. That was such a false label. Nobody was meaner to the new girls. Like, why did every new girl become friends? Lindsay.

I don't even think. Gabby? Hello, Gabby. I don't think she was mean to the new girls. I just think she was like a little bit. She's a, it's funny how like now. She was just like standoff.

She was like it's a fend for yourself. Yeah. And I felt like even with Lexi, she kind of was Lexi's connection to the house. And then she like didn't have Lexi's back. And I forget what happened in the scene on the porch where she's like telling Lexi what Jessie had said about her. Like something like that's upsetting to Lexi.

And I just felt like she didn't have her back. Comfort her. And then when she saw like things weren't going like in the way of Lexi like no, she didn't support Lexi at all. when Amanda was her connection to the house. Like, I don't think she was mean to the mean girls. I just, like, don't think that she ever was like, hey, I'm Amanda.

Like, let's make you feel warm and cozy here. No, she was never welcoming. She was never welcoming. It was very much like fend for yourself. No, but like if page and Sierra had been welcoming, then she would have been welcoming. I just want to say. Like when Paige and Sierra were welcoming, she was welcoming.

Paige and Sierra were not, everyone's like opening up old wounds about like Hannah and Jules. And I don't see enough people talking about Lexi. We are Lexi truthers. And I can't even look at fucking Jesse Solomon because of it. Like it bothers me. much. Not enough people are talking about Lexi.

Yeah. The girls were awful to her, like Amanda specifically. Yeah, and just like gaslighting her that she's crazy for wanting like her man to be appropriate around them. Because now we know like all this flirting. It's not brother's sister. Oh, absolutely. Lexi clocked it first.

How inappropriate everybody acts. You're sucking on Sierra's toe or whoever. Whose toe was it? A random. Oh, even worse. A random toe. Yeah, that's weird. That's weird.

Everyone in this house is brainwashed into like fornicated. with their friends. No, like laying on top of each other in the bed, in the pool, in your bathing suits. With the legs. And like it's not weird. And she was right for saying like Jesse obviously feels some sort of way he brought Sierra because this season he said he wanted to make out with Sierra,

which I don't think you would make out with your sister. And she was also right for saying all these close friendships, like it's a little bit concerning because look, Amanda and my best friends, brother sister. Right. Right. Sister. Mm-hmm.

Justice for Lexi. And it's not just just. Jesse that I'm mad at. I'm mad at Bravo because she should have been there this season to like have a redemption, have a career. Like they just brought her on this show, ruined her life, broke her heart and said, go in the garbage can by. It's so true. The network like so left her hanging out to dry. After she like, I know she also liked Jesse back so it worked out, but he gave her no choice but to date him. Like he so aggressively pursued her. Co-opted her time, like was on top of her. And she likes him and thought he was cute. So like great. But like just

totally took advantage of her life. Agreed. Oh, it makes me sick. Let's talk about Lexi. Let's talk about Lexi. Next, I guess we have to be like what the Jewel's Truthers have been. The Lexi Truthers, yeah. Yeah.

Next, let's talk about Summerhouse, actually, because Kyle Cook is sharing a little bit of a lover boy update as he cashes in on West Mandeval. You know what else I was thinking? Carl's a mess. Is the send it to Darrell. of West Mandeval. It's also like the goodbye Kyle of like Lisa Vanderpenter.

Yeah, but like Lala Kent literally bought a house off of send it to Darrell merch. And now Carl's a mess is going to save lover boy. I believe they have Carl's a mess merch. They do. They do. And he made a video. I guess everyone's been like buying merch

and supporting lover boy. I hope Carl gets a piece of that. I feel like he will because also this season has been a lot about how Kyle hasn't supported Carl. And I feel like even if he takes a piece of that merch and invests in in soft bar, like he absolutely has to or he's the biggest idiot on the planet. Like this is an alley you like slam dunk.

Yeah. Slam dunk opportunity. Like I would actually wear a sweatshirt that says Carl's a mess. I think it's so funny. I thought goodbye to Daryl was like, no, send it to Daryl was really forced. I didn't think it was like a funny. I watched a video. I was unimpacted by what she said.

And then everybody started saying send it to Daryl. And I was like, it just felt so forced being like, send it to Daryl. But this is so genuinely funny. Carl's a mess. Like hilarious. I would wear a sweatshirt. Wow. You've really done it about face.

No. Kyle. Well, it's hard to like hate someone who's like such a loser. Like yeah, he's just not threatening to me anymore. Yeah. Also, I think lover boy is like doing better. I'm surprised they even made it from the summer until now, given how he was talking about lover boy's financials.

He said they had six months and it's, it's been more than six months since the end of August. I guess people are like buying lover boy and buying, merch right now. But I don't think they've been actively dropping new products. I think like they sell in a bunch of stores. And they're like sun setting a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. And I think they probably got a bunch of online orders. I hope this doesn't encourage him to like keep it going though. Because like this will fade and then he's like back to what he had before. And I just like, it would just be so weird to me if you're like, oh, Amanda has hooked up with West. Let me buy a lover boy. Like, no, but people do.

It's so crazy. I mean, that's what happened with Spritz. What? Craig, Craig, Craig, 20? Oh yeah, no, but we had lunch to new flavor. Like, it was actually about like the product. No, we had it. The Craig flavor. Yeah, but that's not what Craig 20 was. About the drama. Well, no, we were giving you a discount. We're giving you a discount. So buy it because there's a discount. Right. Not just like Amanda. But also to support Craig from the slander. Yeah, no, but it was also like we're running a promotion. That's what Bravo fans do. We're running a promotion based on. So yeah, oh, I can get this on sale. Great. Yeah. But this is like, I didn't want lover boy for the last. six years but now that Amanda has hooked up with Wes I want to love him.

Give me one of those espresso martini margarita teas. They have such crazy flavors. It's just funny but yeah, I guess that's just the circle of life and happy for Kyle. Who would have ever thought? Who would have? And it's so funny because watching the new episodes like he's acting like so awful, whatever. I don't know. I'm just like genuinely unfazed by it where you like actually make me so mad but now it's like,

well, no, she was obviously awful. It's just, it's so hard. And like two episodes ago when he told her fuck you, which was obviously so wrong, and I will condemn that every time. He says in his confessional, like, all these guys in the house, like say that they're here for me, they're here for me. But it's like, if you're really here for me, you would tell her to like stop, like giving you guys all this attention and give some attention to her husband. And when he said that, it was before West Mandeval. And everyone's like, Kyle, so terrible. But like now knowing like what she's capable of, it's actually sort of prophetic what she said.

And I feel like no one's really willing to hear him out. So you don't even, like, you don't even ingest what he says. But, like, even before West Mandeville, I think we all could have agreed, like, she does spend a lot of time with the other guys. She's very flirty and touchy. And it's like, well, yeah, I could see your husband, no matter how awful he is being annoyed that, like, not only are you not spending time with him, but you're like all over these other guys. Claudia, if we had said that before West Mandeval, we would have been so fucking canceled.

I know, I know. Which is just a good reminder that, like, you should say the truth even, like, not that I felt like saying that then I wasn't really thinking about them that much. but it's just a good reminder like say your truth before it becomes so painfully obvious right like you couldn't defend kyle no you couldn't and like you really sure he told us why fuck you but like he had some points and they were just all they were all lost by the way that he acted to but like it's not the message it's the delivery you could have never ever said that before like you couldn't have never said well maybe Amanda's not like the most like amazing wife because he was a

worse husband yeah what came first the chicken or the They're both still true. And it's also crazy how now that the, like, gates are open because she, like, a couple of the last, like, now people can say, like, the nastiest fucking shit about her. And it's like, that's not nice either. No, people are taking it too far. Like, calm down. Like, a bathing suit is.

Yeah, like, calm down. The bathing suits are. Meanwhile, you're all going, gobbling it up, eating it up sold out so quickly. The reincarnation of Haley B. We're like, shut up. Yeah, no, like the Bravo fandom is so fickle. Like, it's crazy. It's so scary.

It's so scary. Yeah. I mean, hyping up like all of her press, Amanda fucking Metula. Right. Like, literally our automatics, slay mama. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Mm-hmm.

The housemate author, Frieda McFadden, reveals her true identity after living a double life for 23 years. So Freedom McFadden is finally dropping the disguise and the double life. She revealed on one, say, her real name, which is Sarah Cohen, and that she's a New York-born doctor who treated brain disorders as she has built a publishing empire over the last 23 years. So she did an interview with USA today saying I'm at a point in my career

where I'm tired of this being a secret. I'm tired of people debating if I'm a real person or if I'm three men. I am a real person and I have a real identity and I don't have anything to hide. Okay, so like I love this, but I feel like I knew this. I saw a picture of her. Yeah, I've seen this picture of her.

But I guess we never knew her biological government name. She always, like, she attended the red carpets for her books and stuff. but she wore a wig, yes? Yeah, and she's like wearing the same hair and glasses in this interview. Yeah, so maybe that's just her hair. She said I have no idea how to style my hair. Cracking up. So maybe she's wearing a wig.

We also didn't know that she was a brain surgeon. I thought she was like a psychologist. I knew she was something, like a doctor. Like a brain doctor. Maybe that could be a psychologist or a brain surgeon. It's so true. She treats brain disorders. I'm cracking up.

She's a psychiatric. She's not a surgeon. I'm cracking it. Yeah, that's what I thought. Yeah. A very, very high level. She treats like very disturbed individuals. We knew that.

Yeah, so all of this I knew. Yeah, so I didn't know her real name, which like... I guess I didn't know that she was a Jew. Now I won't read her books. Now I won't read her books because she's a Jew. Clip it. Yeah, I won't read that Jews books. I feel like Mark Ruffalo.

How does it feel? powerful yeah yeah um so like congrats i thought we knew this but congrats congrats too oh my god you sound so funny like i'm seriously cracking can we still call her freedom mcfadden though like what's she going to publish your next book as that's what i was gonna ask are they still free to read us i think that she has to keep her name It's freedom McFadden. Does a pen name only serve when they don't know your identity? No, like I feel like pen names still serve.

Like Lemony Snicket. Yeah, I think she should keep it. It's also such a great name. Yeah, and like I want to read Twisted Thrillers from Freedom McFadden. Not from Sarah Cohen. Some random Jew. Jew. Yeah, I'm all set.

I like her she made herself Irish. What do you? Hello, Frida. McFadden. Freida. Frida. She, like, that's such like, so opposite. Yeah.

I mean, maybe she was on to something. Do you think she could have had the success as a Jew? I have a pen name. Cojourner's Truth. Trity Lou Freibush. That's not your pen name. Nobody calls you that. It's just my name.

No, your name is Cojourner. Trudy Lou. Everybody calls her. calls me turdy. Your name is turdy Lou. When like when I get stabbed in the street, Turdy. Turdy Lou. Yeah. And like even like friends of mine call me. Of course. Everybody. Sisters.

And you know I've always wanted a nickname. Like I just love it so much. And you're turt. Sure. Really turt. Really turt. Yeah. Really Jew. Well anyways, I'm happy for Frida that she fell. I'm burdened by the thing that we didn't know was burdened. She's putting the free in Frida. Yeah, she's free.

But I guess like for like, you know, uncultured swine, they didn't know. But like we're so close to it. Like we've read every book. Like we didn't know this because we also like see her picture when we go on good reads and we click the book. So like, yeah, she had to like put herself out there for like probably new fans of the housemaid, people who only watch movies and don't read those. Right.

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They were all on the Today Show with Jenner Busheager and Janiel Jones. They were asked if they would vote for Spencer. Great question. Yeah. Lauren responded, I'm not a resident of L.A., and Stephen said we live in Orange County. Kristen said, I've seen it everywhere. I can't get away from it. She said, I don't live in L.A. either, but I think he's on to something.

We'll see what happens. I will always have a soft spot for Spencer. She then, the host inquired whether Lauren and Spencer have since squashed their beef from their time on the show. And, like, Lauren, she said she was confused. She was like looking at Kristen and then didn't answer. And she then she was like, oh, I didn't know the question was for her. she thought it was for someone else and like didn't answer. And then she said, you're asking me about people I haven't spoken to in decades, agreeing that she doesn't care at this point.

I mean, the refreshing thing about Lauren Conrad is she's probably one of the only people from reality TV who is like genuinely no interest in ever being on TV again. She's completely not media trained. So it's very refreshing to like just hear a normal person talk. She was on Kristen Cavaleri's podcast talking just about like, you know, her decision to do the Roku thing and her obsession with like not one. wanting to be famous and how her time during the hills, I guess it was just like so successful, all the different ventures, like the books and the shows, that she just doesn't have to work.

And she's so blessed because she just, like, lives with her family and she hangs up with her friends, and that's exactly how she wants it. It's just like, it's so unbelievable to Kristen Cavalieri, who's, like, the total opposite. Who's been, like, hustling from the second that the show ended. And it's just two totally different girls with two totally different perspectives.

So this question is just like, you're not going to get, like, a media trained. I wonder if, like, somebody even briefed, Lauren on like that this might potentially come up former castmate and like maybe you know to have like a more polished answer and like I do believe that she didn't think the question was for her because she's so not strategic yeah I also think she fucking hates him yeah still does always will like you just never forget your first and even though you think it's reality TV and it's 10 years later like to her like that's her Roman empire like she's not moving on especially like why would she move on the things happened

to make it better No, and I actually think the beef is not even from the show Because we know so much of the show was scripted And like maybe you know you're just young And yeah, they thought he was a bad boyfriend But you know Heidi and Spencer have a great marriage So it's like a sex tape thing That she

When they were fighting on the show It was because like Heidi and Spencer She said Heidi and Spencer started a rumor That like she had a sex tape with Jason Waller That was out there And that's when she's like you know what you did Oh, that's really bad But I also was going to say

I think a lot of her resentment is things that Spencer has said long after the show. Yeah, like he doesn't stop. No, and he was trying to reverse psychology. Like, Lauren's the villain, trying to, like, turn people on Lauren. And so I think a lot of it, like, maybe you can get past, like, teenage drama.

Yeah. The sex tape, maybe not so much. But I think a lot of it is, like, not even about the show. It's about years later. Like, they kind of don't stop. Yeah, that's true. I don't know how much she sees of that, but I think it's, like, just, like,

that was, like, friendship ending for her and, like, nothing since then has, like, brought it back. But it is so interesting how she was able to make, I guess, enough money from the show. And, like, her ventures afterwards because she still, like, works and, like, has her line at, like, Coles and stuff. And just, like, that she set herself up so nicely to not have to work forever. Whereas, like, no one else has been able to really do that in reality TV. Well, she probably, like, took the deals that other people didn't want. You know, you're on top of the world.

Who wants to work with Coles, right? But she has a licensing line there for, what, 15 years now? Yeah. Like, it's so smart. And I think she makes mailbox money. And yeah, she does have Instagram. And I think she's like a little blog company, whatever. I don't think that's really what's paying the bills.

No, but she's like a lifestyle influencer. Like, yeah. But she doesn't do like a million brand deals. No, but she used to, well, she has to like, you know, have a brand out there in order for people like want to buy her stuff. And certainly in the years after the hills, she did like more life. Like she was like such a vibe, you know, the hair. Oh my God. Her books, her coffee table books.

And like her braid and her hair and like the waves and the Pinterest. She was like a tumbler girl. Yeah. And so like I think she actually is like a really great household name of like, oh, if you're telling me it's Lauren Conrad, I know the vibes. Yes, yes. Beachy, California. Yeah.

Yeah. And she looks the same. I want to watch her on Kristen's podcast. And I wonder why she decided to do the reunion now. She talks about it because she wants to put a pin in it forever. And so they were doing this with her without her. And so she felt like it was a perfect way to close the chapter because she gets a million opportunities over the years to do this.

Yeah, the hills came back. She didn't go on it. I think she had a very positive experience to doing Back to the Beach, which they spoke about on Christmas podcast again. And she thought this was like the perfect way to end it. It was happening. She didn't want to not be a part of it. And she's like, and I'd never want to talk about it ever again.

Okay. And you know what? I want to watch it because now that I love Stephen from Traders, what a guy. Yeah, what a guy. Also, our fifth and final story is some more like reality T.O.G. Reunion News, how much did they pay them? Because Rony icons, Bethany, Ramona, and Sonia have teamed up for a skincare advertisement and an iconic ring. Yeah, they're doing a campaign together.

They're doing a campaign together, but it's very big. So Rony, Ligeons, Bethany Frankel, Ramona Singer, and Sonia Morgan recently reunited in Paris to shoot a campaign for French skincare brand. Rock's latest and most advanced anti-aging launch retinol correction deep wrinkle rich cream um they did like a whole sketch it was like called the reunion it was and it was about like bethany getting her friends ready to be back on TV they're like it's like I guess it's scripted but it's comedy she's saying like so that they don't we need to get them looking good so they don't embarrass me like it was just so it literally felt like I was watching like an old episode of housewives and what's funny is that they were spotted filming this in Paris and I think everybody thought that bethany was finally joining

the golden years yeah And that they've taken a group trip to Paris. And I thought that's what it was too. And I was like, oh my God, that's so funny. Like Bethany made a million videos saying how she would never do it. And then here she is. I think this is a perfect way for her to engage. Obviously, they all probably got paid extremely handsomely.

That's always, you know, good. I imagine Bethany got paid so much for this because for her to, like, you know, go back to doing, like, you know, Rony lore sort of stuff. They're going to Paris. They're, she's putting all of her, like, brand and endorsement behind the skin care line. Like, I think this is a huge camera. campaign for them. Yeah, Rock is also like a pargy skincare line. And I feel like Bethany's really particular about like where she. And so I think it's, I think it's fabulous for everyone. I'm sure

Ramona and Sonia were thrilled. Yeah. And I also think it's so smart to like tap these women who have aged in the public eye like very gracefully for 20 years. Like you want to sell anti-aging cream? Like get Ramona. I don't know if I would say very gracefully. Physically? Physically, yeah, but not like behavior wise. I'm saying physically. Like Ramona's in her 70s. It's insane. Right, or she's in her 60s. Late 60s. If you want to advertise your anti-aging skin care line, call Ramona Singer.

I can't think of someone who was a better endorsement for looking fabulous at any age. Looking ageless by Ramona. Like, someone, Rog should actually come out with a line in collaboration with her called Ageless by Ramona Singer. Like, I think that's, it's such a great. Yeah, housewives don't get tapped enough because there are, it's a, you know, You know, it's a show that focuses on older women. And there are a, and yeah, of course, they're all very open about the fact that they have worked on, which is fine.

But there are many women on the network who are, like, insane looking for their age. And they should tap into that more. Yeah, it's a huge market. I feel like that, you know, everyone's like, oh, who's Gen Z. But like, don't forget about the anti-aging women who want, who. Don't forget the boomers with disposable income. With spending power. Correct.

So I think this is really, and I thought the sketches were so cute. I couldn't believe that they got the three of them, especially Bethany to, like, participate. I'm like the budget is massive. You know, I appreciate that about Bethany. Like she, you know, stands where she stands and she says what she says, but she can be bought. That's extremely relatable. She can be bought, but it has to be like really worth it. Mm-hmm.

And I don't think she would do it for like any old skincare brand and any amount of money. So like I don't know. I just feel like this is a ringing endorsement. It's really a sleigh. Yeah, I enjoyed it very much. And the content was really good. It was making me nostalgic. And I'm like Bethany.

like making them do TikTok so it was croaking up. It was so funny and they're also like talking about skincare in between it's hysterical but it but it worked and like Bethany has to go on the new show I'm sorry I know I know like I understand I do but I think not only do they need it because she's so polarizing like something about her just grinds the fucking gears and maybe Kelly Ben's mode

would have to be escorted out and I think that would be fine oh because they don't talk like no I think Bethany like actually would never film with Benz Simone ever again and I would I would so like okay okay but I think she should do it like I do and this was just such a fun treat to watch and I think also maybe part of her hesitation is like I do think while she's okay with Jill I think they've got like just tension that's what I'm saying so I think that I do think that they're fine like they'll say hi to one other but I do believe that they both like deeply deeply hate each other and now Jill's not on the show so Bethany

She's a con. Oh, okay. Because I'm like, well, if they hate, like, yeah. Like, Bethany's not at a place where she needs to put herself in situations like that. And, like, her whole thing now is like reality TV reckoning and she's very like anti-reality TV. So I don't really know how that would all work. But I also think they'll have like way more control over what they're doing versus when they were just starting out and like needed the show and would have done anything to like make it work. It's just different playing field.

I hope she had a good experience with them on the skincare collab and maybe it'll be, you know, the motivation. the motivation that she needs to join the show. It's giving Toasty Lions, I just want to say. Yeah. It was like they flew them all to Paris. Very highbrow. To France. Oh, France.

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