The Toast - Live Cause You're Dying: Tuesday, March 19th, 2024

Episode Date: March 19, 2024

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Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to the house, and happy Tuesday. Speaking of, you know... Hmm, where do I want to go with this? It's in there. No, like I could do the basic. Like, speaking of girls, I choose... Like, let's be creative. Let's do something different.

I feel like I do that every Tuesday. Speaking of... Speaking of choose, here's the girl I'd always choose, Jacqueline Follet. Well, that just posed an interesting question to me because Election Day is always on a Tuesday. And do you think that's because it's Tuesday? Because we're making a choice? Because we're making a choice on a Tuesday, which is a Tuesday of Election Day.

Just something to think about, food for thought. I feel like her founding fathers is a Tuesday of election day. Just something to think about, food for thought. I feel like her founding fathers, like, dropped a lot of Easter eggs that we're only now, that we're only now finding. Okay, Nicolas Cage. Totally. I should watch that movie. I feel like I would like it now.

1,000%. Maybe then I didn't get it, but I feel like now, even though American history is good you know okay mighty proud uh but it's not as not nearly as long as some of the other histories we don't have real roots because we're you know a nation of immigrants we sort of just like left all the other places and we're like let's do our own thing as they called it a new world right and that's cool and exciting and it's actually kind of sick how we're like kind of the best country and we're also the newest like we did the most in the least amount of time like I respect the hustle I do but of course you know we're not nearly as you

know old and historic the other countries and other continents. And it's just interesting when you think about it. It definitely is. And I feel like we've gotten immediately sidetracked. Beyond. About the complexities of history. I'll add national treasure to my watch list. Thank you.

Yes. And before you do that, welcome back to the toast. We've got a great show. It is Tuesday, also known as Tuesday around here. We have so much to discuss. We've got the stories. The stories are really, really good. And I want to say for a Tuesday, but I don't want that to diminish the stories.

Like they are good for a Tuesday, but they're also just really strong in general. And I look forward to talking about them. And I hope that we're not going to wade into anything prior to. Well, let me ask, was Oprah's Ozempic special made a story? Because you and I both watched it. And I have some thoughts I'd like to share. Yes, it is a story. It's our first story, if you could hold off. I can. But I did want to come on here and say that after I watched Oprah's Ozempic special, which we will get into recapping in a minute, I caught up on Curb Your Enthusiasm. Are you caught up? No. Now let me tell you, it's not like an amazing season. And I always watch every week.

And let me tell you, I was like four episodes behind. So that just sort of tells you how not enticing this season is. However, I watched an episode last night that was so brilliant. And not even for Larry David. I'm going to spoil it, but it's worth it. For Lori Loughlin. Okay. Now, I feel like this was her first kind of major acting gig since the college admission scandal. She plays herself and she plays herself, you know, post prison. And she, and I happen to know for a fact, like she's really into

golf in real life. Her and Ben are like always talking about it and she is joining Larry's club and the club doesn't want her because she went to prison yada yada and she ends up like her in real life it's like Lori's actually kind of like a badass like she has a handicap placard even though she's not supposed to have one she and Larry's like kind of put off by her energy let me tell you it was such a brilliant way to come back to acting I can can only sort of compare it to an equally as impressive comeback when Justin Bieber went through like a really, really tough time. And then he did the roast of Justin Bieber on Comedy Central. It was so brilliant. Something about making yourself the butt of the joke, letting people sort of pile on, have their moment,

and being in on the joke is such a great way to come back from any sort of scandal. And I wasn't expecting this from Lori Loughlin because she's very buttoned up. She's very, you know, family network, you know, homes, HGTV energy. It was so funny. And I ended up, and I love Lori Loughlin. I have no problem with her.

So I wasn't like the target demo for this, but I still- You didn't need your mind to be changed. I still, I was like, damn, demo for this but I still you didn't need your mind to be changed I still I was like damn this like I just love her and I think it will be effective for real in sort of rehabilitating her image for sure but how come I didn't even hear about the fact that she was on Curb until you're saying I know Curb is like a weird place where it's like I feel like the show had its run and then you know years later it came back and I feel like the show had its run, and then, you know, years later it came back. And I feel like once it came back, every season was so gangbusters, and everyone was talking about it every week.

And I feel like this season, like, is primarily not good. Yeah, I watched the first episode. It didn't compel me to want to watch more episodes. Zach was watching an episode that there was a funny, like, running joke. But I wasn't, like, obsessed. Though this episode sounds good and I it was hysterical um I just want to say though and I never thought I'd say this because I every time he said he was done with the show I'm like no Larry do more I feel like maybe it's time

yeah it's not very good that's fine by me our husbands will be. It's nice to have something to watch with the husbands. I'm not going to lie. Yeah. Though I completely forgot about it until now. But last night I was watching Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Of course you were. Finished reunion part two. On to reunion part three.

And I don't know if it's me. Maybe I just like put my phone down. But I was really locked in. I felt like all the conversations that they were having were really interesting conversations like of course Kyle Sutton Sutton's talking about like her ex they're all talking about what they share on the show literally the exact conversation that we were having because Kyle was accused of hiding and she was like I've been on this show for 13 years my daughter had her second birthday party now she's applying to college I've had two sisters on the show I've My family has broken up.

Like she was making fire points. Yeah. She was also saying that she didn't even know what was going on with her marriage as the season was filming. She doesn't have to say every preformed feeling that she has. And then she goes to Sutton because Sutton's the one who was accusing her of it. She's like, you don't share anything. Your ex-husband's too powerful to talk about

this season you got a horse and started a cashmere line like oh thanks factual it was giving straight fire facts yeah and then also we talked about to read a little bit because she's going through a metamorphosis and the way to read has my heart I know and she always has she always has but I feel like the last few seasons like that connection that I had to her was maybe like dwindling. I thought she gave such a stellar performance at the reunion. I feel like people might disagree with me on that. I feel like everyone was just coming at her from all sides. People make so much fun of her because she's long-winded.

But that doesn't really come through on the show because it's edited. So I'm like, oh, Dorit just speaks well, you know? Yeah. And by the way, I have always found a deep connection to that storyline of Dorit. People say she talks too much and she like always brings the conversation back to herself and they think it's like a character flaw. And I know definitely people say that about me. And when I tell you, it's so not intentional.

Not me doing it right now, you know? Literally, like Dorit starts speaking about her robbery and her PTSD and Andy starts yawning. Like seriously, it's so fucking rude. Okay. But the yawning saga with Andy and Dorit truly the, this is the third reunion in a row where he's yawned while she's speaking. Yes. I saw the highlights and it would be funny if what she was saying right now, like wasn't incredibly serious in the past. She's talking about the women yawn, ha ha. But it was really kind of rude. Also Garcelle and Crystal just like have it out for Dorit or just

like like giggling at the things that she's saying and rolling their eyes I found it to be like so rude and condescending also Garcelle this season like made a comment alluding to the fact that that things about Dorit's robbery were questionable yeah a lot of people have what to what end what do they think That it was like an insurance setup. Like, you know, because they have, for many years, there have been whispers about their financial situation. And, you know, if you get robbed and they steal a bunch of stuff, you get that money back in insurance.

Got it. Well, Garcelle didn't go as far as saying that. She just made snide comments and then is like, oh, you you know I just thought it was weird that you still had your ring and that the robber would leave the phone for you by the gate which it's like okay sorry it didn't fit your perfect robbery story yeah no Garcelle is snarky most of the time I actually enjoy it but every now and then she misses the mark with Crystal I feel like Crystal I't know, I feel so two ways about Krystal. Because she hasn't been my favorite, but she's Jewish. So I'm not gonna say anything bad about her. She converted?

Yeah! Oh she's like a serious Jew. Her husband was Jewish. I spoke to her very briefly about it at BravoCon. I didn't know that either, but at BravoCon, because BravoCon was like right after October 7th like a month after there was like a dinner for like Jewish Bravo Leopardies and Erin Dana invited me. Yeah. And I was like oh Crystal's Jewish and she had told me that yes she is Jewish and she like is a very serious convert. Oh I love that for her. Yeah so you're not gonna catch me saying anything bad about her. No she was just being snarky and she's just funny. She just has like the most. No she's just. She just dies on the most random of hills. Yes. Okay snarky and she's just funny. She just has like the most. No, she's just. She just dies on the most random of hills.

Yes. But it's like, okay, go off. No, she's also just like on a personality level, so different than the other women. Like she's also in a different like age bracket, which I think she's always like referencing her generation versus their generation. But it really, I do think a part of like why she doesn't get along

with some of the women like is purely generational. Like they're just different. Yeah. She's a little sensitive, you know you know yeah she's in her feelings and like Kathy Hilton like of a completely generation like doesn't give a fuck even though Kathy Hilton and Crystal get along the I think that's actually Kathy's we're about to see Kathy on part three but I feel like her and Crystal actually have the best relationship that's an unlikely friendship I'm not gonna lie I love unlikely duo. I think they live in the same neighborhood and that's like really how they just became friends. Yeah. Anyways, the season is really good. I'm enjoying it. I don't know what the feedback has been and like who's villainous and what people are saying. I just

know I'm enjoying it. I am dressed like kind of athletically. I don't know if you noticed. I don't know if you can see. I saw your story. You're going for a run. It's one degree in the city. Like last week when I went outside, I was like kind of scared to be running outside with my running coach and stuff. But I was like, you know what? Whatever. It's a beautiful day. God is shining down on me.

Get after it. It is so fucking cold. What do you wear to run? Like do you wear a coat? Yeah, wear a puffer kind of athletic style coat. I didn't bring one. So like literally this is what I'm running in. A turtleneck.

How many degrees is it actually? It will be in the 40s. I think you'll warm up. Yeah by the way so and what I kind of liked about running in the park I feel like this is kind of like a life hack is I ran two miles the last a week ago. I didn't break a sweat because maybe a little under boob sweat actually but more so my hair and getting into fitness has been really challenging for me as somebody who's on camera every single day. Like I have a blowout pretty much every single day and I can't be washing my hair more than twice a week. So becoming, you know, athletic because I sort of posed a problem.

When I tell you I literally went home and like brushed my hair and it was completely dry. Completely fine. And think of the Kardashians. Like if the Kardashians can work out one to two times a day have hair every day spray tans everything like there's no excuse no I feel like that's actually not a good comparison like they wash their hair full-time glam but they don't wash their hair ever I wouldn't wash my hair either if the second I worked out my hair person was blow drying and like spraying making it fresh

as a daisy oh but I mean okay so you don't have someone to do, but you have those capabilities yourself. Like, yeah, I thought you were saying because the sweat means you have to wash your hair. No, I don't have to wash my hair, but like, you know, it makes it, if they don't wash your hair, I'm not washing mine. When I get really sweaty, like it changes my schedule and I do different workouts every day based on like, if I know I'm going to be washing my hair, like I'll go balls to the wall. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like when you do strength training, like if you ever do like live method, you don't need to wash your, you're not like sweating. You're just working really hard.

Exactly. But when I'm running on the treadmill, that's like I look like a pig. Yeah. So life hack, run outside in the cold. You'll never have to wash your hair. Also life hack, if you're running, sweating like a pig next day, updo. I'm just not an updo girl. Flashback to all the updos that you've loved and slayed. No and by the way for sure but on the

podcast what I'm gonna put my hair like what? In a slick back bun gorgeous turdy. Slick back buns like don't work for me. I can do a claw clip with like a you know slut strands type of moment. I can sometimes do like a chignon but like that that whole slick, I can't, I also just can't do it on myself. Well, who has the arm strength? Not me. I got to head back to the Soto method to, to work on, prepare. Get it. Yeah. So Lori Loughlin, that was kind of the one thing I wanted to say before the show started. Anything you sort of wrote down in a mental note that you were like, let me talk about on the show before the past five. I always like have things and then I forget. No, totally. Yesterday just kind of zoomed by. I got a manicure pedicure that I'm really excited

about. Go off queen. I even did something crazy because I was getting in my car. Yeah, I drive. Yeah. I messed up a nail and I was sitting there and I was and it was really bad. It was like I would have to go home and redo my nail. And I was was like do I go and fix it or do I go home and I was already hating the whole experience of getting a manicure pedicure like I really truly hated every minute of it but I went back in and I fixed it and now I'm right as rain well you wouldn't need to do that if you got a gel manicure but I did want to tell you I totally forgot so I got a manicure like a week ago and the girl next to me had such a gorgeous color she really was just like a gorgeous girl with gorgeous nails and I was like what color is that and she was like oh it's

dazzle dry I'm like you're kidding what color was it like one of my favorite like flesh colored nudes oh I have a nice flesh colored nude from dazzle dry but I was gonna say the only thing about dazzle dry if I had to say well of course you leave with wet nails but I'm fine I'm used to that is that their colors like aren't as amazing as se opi one they don't have the range and two like the colors that they do have aren't the I have two that I love this is one of them but they don't have so many lovable ones so that's crazy that that was your takeaway. I know. Dazzle Dry, FTW. I like, when she said Dazzle, I literally rolled my eyes.

And she probably was like, oh my god, this girl is so rude. I was like, no, it's like this whole long story. I have pre-existing beef with Dazzle Dry. Me and my sister slash best friend always talk about Dazzle Dry. She's obsessed. You said that? Yeah. And what did she say? She could not have cared less.

Like, I was bothering her. Damn. Yeah. Oh, I did go to the gynecologist yesterday. Right. And let me tell you, when I was in the waiting room, I saw so many toasters. And, you know, you don't say, I know they all are like, she's pregnant. Like, they all were like.

But Ben wasn't with me. So I feel like you can go to the gynecologist for other things. Of course. And if they listen to the episode, they would know. Speaking of, do you get your period? No. Yikes. She would have told me when they ran my thing yesterday.

I got urine and everything. Yeah, don't worry. I'm not. Literally true. But I got a pap smear you know she got popped I got popped you know what do they call that thing septum speculum that is a medieval torture device like it was I really forgot but you know this was my I switched doctors this was like my first time so I was really just kind of checking it out and

they had a I don't know if it was pre-warmed the speculum was extremely warm and in the past it's been so ice cold which just adds another layer of like real discomfort and let me tell you was one of the most pleasant pap smears I've ever gotten in my life like if they were all like that it really wouldn't be a big deal for me to stay on top of them they're not the biggest deal I guess after you because I got one at my six-week checkup this time because they were like, you'll need one in a few months, so just do it now. And I guess after all the rigmarole of pregnancy

and after all the poking and prodding I went through, the pap smear? Where? Nothing. There was nothing. I also got a breast exam, which, you know, I've actually, it's been weighing heavy on me since we spoke about Olivia Munn. So I feel, like, really good about getting all that done. And I just feel like, you know, call me King Charles weighing heavy on me since we spoke about Olivia Munn. So I feel like really good about getting all that done. And I just feel like, you know, call me King Charles, but go get a pap smear.

And the breast exam. Well, it's a part of the thing. Like the checkup. The checkup. Yeah. Like when you get a pap smear, like they do your boobs. I don't recall. I wouldn't even know.

No, but it's like definitely. So much going on. It's definitely awkward. And like, I respect the doctor yesterday. She was obviously trying to make conversation while she was like you know and I just met her it's not like I'm like super comfortable with her so we spoke about Kate Middleton you know which was always I feel like good sort of middle ground Middleton ground Middleton ground yeah which I'm assuming is our first story it's our second story because our

first is Oprah okay I feel like let's get into it. Yeah, because that's the rest of our day was watching Oprah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But what were you going to say? I was going to share something else about the doctor and then I was just like, you know what? Maybe not. I'm loving this new boundary of yours.

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trend. So last night, Oprah's shortly awaited special. Honestly, we said last week, I hope it's soon. And here it was. By the way, I forget how I figured out that it was on yesterday. I think I saw like a TikTok ad. I was like, damn, that's a turnaround time. Yeah. So it was called, um, shame, shame, blame, and the weight loss revolution. and she spoke to a bunch of people who have participated in the drug whether as recipients were doctors or people in the pharmaceutical industry and it was just a 360 conversation about these semaglutide injections so I want to say I thought it was excellent I thought it could have been longer. I felt it was kind of, as somebody who knows so much about the drugs, because I spent a whole year on them and like

learning about them and then doing podcast episodes with Dr. Guzzi, I know so much. There wasn't for me anything I didn't know, but I really felt like for dumb people, people who have no idea about these drugs, people who are judgmental of these drugs, people who have preconceived notions of these drugs, it was really for them. It was very surface level and I think debunking a lot of the myths. I do wish she had spent a little bit more time and over it was overwhelmingly positive which was so refreshing um but I also and I feel like she tackled every sort of every bucket of conversation around it like the person who benefits the most from Ozempic which you know is an adult person like

the first person we spoke to was Amy then there was the the teenager and that's actually like a really big even more in-depth conversation is about like Ozempic not for kids that's separate but for young people no that was really interesting I hadn't heard about that girl who at age 11 was almost 300 pounds. Her mom did everything she possibly could taking her to, you know, camps and clinics and everything. And it was just clear that she had a really, really severe case of obesity. And they made the decision to give her bariatric surgery. The results weren't as severe as they had wanted them to be. So the doctor at the clinic suggested she pair it with one of these drugs. And it kind of became like a national news story that there was this young woman.

I think by the time she was taking the drug, she was like 15. And they thought it was really crazy. And Oprah was like to the mom, like, what do you say to parents out there or other people who just like judge you for doing this? And she was like, you know what? Walk a mile in my shoes. Like, watch your daughter have her whole life be put on pause because of this disease and people not take it seriously. I found it it really compelling I don't know if you

would have asked me before what do you think about like young teenagers taking it I would have been like uh I don't know but I just about to say the same thing I feel like before the special I would have said I would have put a time uh an age on you know when kids grow out of stuff like that yeah and also like to be injecting serious medication into a young person is not the greatest ideal ideal but then when this mom talks about okay and what are the risks if we don't do that I thought it was very compelling that was like the one thing I kind of changed my mind on a little bit agree that um I didn't even know I needed to. Yeah. So I just loved it. I did not love how the two doctors

that she brought on to be experts who are, you know, doctors with years and years and years of obesity research and serving obesity patients. And they were like, we've been using these drugs for 20 years on patients,

but now they've just become FDA approved for it. And Oprah was like so shook. She was like mad. She was like, how come nobody told me? And I feel the same way. Like these drugs have been around for 20 years, which really speaks for their safety and their efficacy because we have, that's what the doctor was saying. We have 20 years of research on this drug.

Not a lot of drugs that hit the market can say that. We're very lucky. As far as like long-term effects, like what's going to happen in 20 years? Well, you can look at someone who started taking it 20 years ago. And a lot of the research we have on medicines are done on animals like mice, which is helpful, but not a human. Not completely analogous. So the girl, the female doctor was like, we have 20 years of human data. Like that's so rare.

And people should be, and the fact that there's all this like hoopla against it when it's actually one of the most well-researched drugs is makes you think. But I didn't love that those two doctors who were brought on as experts, who I felt like were really, really smart. And Oprah had to say it legally that they were,

I forget what the word was. They get paid by the pharmaceutical companies to do, the pharmaceutical companies fund their research. They work very closely. So they make, they have a sort of, it's advantageous for them to speak positively about the drug, which I feel like people could. And I don't think that they said anything wrong,

but I just feel like it does sort of negate some of the things that they were saying. Yeah, no, it could delegitimize. And you could use that to be like, oh, well, they're getting paid. We could also just listen to what they're saying. Oprah could have found, you know, doctors who are smart and know the research who just don't have a vested interest, you know?

Okay. Okay. That's fair. I loved hearing some of the stories of just regular people whose life has changed. Like that first girl, Amy, who is a toaster I just found out. I forget. She said she had lost over 100 pounds. I think it was over 150 actually.

She's on the drug for maintenance. That was also one other issue I had with what the doctors said. That it's something you'll be on for the rest of your life? Right. Which I feel like really speaks to the fact that they're being paid by the pharmaceutical companies because every doctor I've spoken to said like using the drug as a tool with lifestyle changes, there is data to prove that you can live off of it healthily. Oh, that's so interesting and actually a really good point because when I heard them say that, like it's something that you should be on for the rest of your life, like I actually thought it was

the first time someone was saying it not in a negative way. Like it's always people are like, well, if you take it, you can never get off of it. And it's like, yeah, no, this is a drug you should be on for the rest of your life if you need to be on it. But you just put it in my head, skeptic, like, yeah, cause they're getting paid and that's beneficial for people.

But the thing is, it's like, okay, it can be beneficial for them and beneficial for people too, to live a healthy life. And that was sort of the thesis of the special, which I really appreciated. It was like, there's not, you know, everyone's journey with weight and everyone's diagnosis of obesity is completely different. So somebody can be on the drug, use it as a tool to lose the weight and change their life and not need it ever again. Then there are people who are going to need it for their whole life to maintain. It's not like a one size fits all solution, but the

fact that this works for an overwhelming amount of people with you know obesity is marvelous but she did also then interview a woman who it didn't work for and that she got too sick not because it didn't work yes chemically but she ended up in the emergency room she had bad side effects and the side effects are always you know stated in every headline everywhere so everyone knows you know nausea vomiting every headline everywhere. So everyone knows, you know, nausea, vomiting, and she was someone who had just, it didn't work for her in that sense. Yeah. And she didn't seem like bitter about it. And Oprah said, you know, well, there are other medications. There's so many different types of, and I actually was on, I actually don't know what

type, I went to like a doctor, like a fat doctor many years ago, and she had put me on one of these drugs before I'd ever heard of them. It was called Rebelsis. Oh, it's semaglutide. That's so interesting because I took it and got very sick and like literally threw it, like the whole idea was like, I'm done with these sort of drugs. Had I known if I just tried a different one, my life could have changed so many years prior. I don't want to go down that road because it's frustrating and I think about it all the time. So not every drug, you need to find the right fit. For me, it took, you know, two different types of drugs to figure it out. Yeah, but a lot of people can't literally, quite literally, afford to find the right fit because some are inaccessible and expensive

and you cannot get your hands on them. That was also a topic that I think should have been spoken about a little bit more in depth. One of the women, the mother of the young girl who got bariatric surgery and then ended up on one of these drugs, was saying how her daughter's on, it starts with a V. We were texting about it. Yeah, it starts with a V. Victrover. Oh, Victroza. Thank you. Yes. And while that's not like the best one she could be on, it's the only one that they can afford it's

one of the older medications that one that the obesity doctors have been using but it's not one of these new age ones we've heard of ozempic manjaro wagobe which works better you know backstage oprah wrote them a check to get yeah oprah was just sort of listening and i'm like okay like open up your wallet where's the checkbook and so i do feel like you know the drugs being inaccessible expensive expensive, and not covered by insurance, that was a topic that I think could have been delved into more. But overall, like, tens across the board. Oprah is out here doing important work.

I also thought it was interesting. She did bring the CEO of Weight Watchers on. She did address her leaving Weight Watchers. And actually, I believe her. When you had told me that, I was like, OK, I know there's something going on. But no. So what I think now after watching the special

is if she hadn't left the board and she did this special it could be like a commercial for Weight Watchers. Yes. No but also like maybe an FCC violation like she owns stock

and she's kind of manipulating the market. And so legally she took herself out of it. Not so that people couldn't say she was doing it because of this but because like legally she didn't want to get in trouble however why can't you promote something that you have a vested interest in I I just think like pharmaceuticals is probably like much more legal red tape yeah I'm sure she just wanted to like not have it be

an issue whatsoever but it's like if you're a board member for something, of course you want that company to succeed. And you believe in it. And you're going to go out there and promote it. Yeah. No, I agree. But I thought that her bringing on the Weight Watchers CEO, and Weight Watchers is obviously now fully vested in being a telehealth company and getting people GLP-1 medications, which I love, in tandem with their program. And their program really works. Like, I've done it before. And I found short-term success.

Like, it does work. And I think what they're saying is, like, our program coupled with weight loss medication is an even better, you know, solution. And I agree. You guys should do Weight Watchers. I thought that the Weight Watchers woman, she spoke very briefly. I thought she was incredibly, like like cogent, made fire points, and didn't contradict like Weight Watchers up until this point.

And I think the future for Weight Watchers looks bright. You know what? I really was just like, sorry, never mind. Continue. What else did I want to say about the special? I loved it. 10 out of 10. Yeah, I could have like watched an hour more of just people's amazing stories.

Stories. When they had the girl on and they weren't showing her yet. They were just had her voice playing. I'm like, I'm ready for the reveal. And that's always fun to watch. But I do think in general, it being an hour was the right length of time.

It didn't get long in the tooth. She covered every general area of conversation that people talk about when they talk about these drugs. Every general area of conversation that people talk about when they talk about these drugs. And I think as a starter for just public knowledge, it was very good. Agreed. It was important work. I enjoyed it. Me and Ben were like literally tearing up.

Yeah, it was really, it was really sweet. Ben turned to me in the middle. He was like so silent watching it. And he turned to me, he said, Oprah is a queen. That queen that is so funny yeah she really is yeah I watched it with Zach he was like gonna cry no it was really beautiful and it's like I think first you know someone who's had such a positive experience with the drug and like can't say enough good things about it and I'm sure you who's like seeing you know the positive change in me it's just so nice to see that finally reflected in media like it really is it means a lot yeah and we need more of that we do need more of it because I think a lot of people are scared who would benefit from it are scared

off of yes trying it yep and your whole look that first girl like she needs a national commercial young beautiful mother who she said I never left my house I was just not reaching my potential as a mom like that's so sad yeah the way her life is completely I mean I get it but I think hers was on an even greater scale I think one of the things I always felt most proud of was like really not letting my weight get in the way of me living a full life but for most people like like that's not always an option. It can be debilitating in a mental sense too. Obviously physically it's hard to get up, but mentally too.

And I just thought it was such a great example of someone who she's just, and I'd seen her TikToks come up on my For You page all the time because she really had such a drastic transformation. She sort of used that as a platform to advocate for the drugs and I loved it. And hearing from her was great. I thought they did a really good job of addressing TikTok, which has been like a huge platform for A, misinformation about the drug,

but B, also for me, like community. Like when I was on the drug before I shared it with people, I like ended up on Manjaro Talk and I found like so many helpful tips, like in terms of what to eat, where to place your drugs. There really was like this sense of community, but it was very much like underground and Oprah's just bringing it above ground and I love that yeah it's great yep are you ready for our next story Kate Middleton news she was seen on video for the first time shopping with Prince Harry at the farm Harry Prince William

well that would be news. That would be huge. Prince William amid surgery recovery and endless speculation about her whereabouts. So TMZ posted video footage from their visit to Windsor Farm shop. Okay, so you know like people are convinced that this isn't her. I've seen people saying it's not Kate. Yes, I have. I watched it with my own two eyes. That looked like Kate to me. The thing is I didn't need proving because for me it's not Kate yes I have I watched it with my own two eyes that looked like

Kate to me the thing is I didn't need proving because for me it's no sleep till Easter like I believe I believe royal communications I do wow okay have I not made that like I believe that no no I believe that the version that they're telling us is a very vague version of the truth of the truth that is what I believe so just seeing her doing her farm tings, like, great, thank you. I feel not crazy. No, so I saw the headline. It was like, Kate has been spotted,

and I watched the video. And I'm not gonna lie, like, I felt deflated. I felt disappointed. Like, this has just been such a fun journey. And so I understand people now grasping onto, it's not her it's Heidi Agan who's like one of the most famous Kate impersonators like I think she like goes to birthday parties and stuff I get people you know sort of hanging on to that I think it's dark times

out there people are bored um and this has given us a sense of unity and a sense of strength what I have heard is that this is very much like an American conspiracy theory. Yeah. And in the UK, they're like, calm your biscuits. I think people are bored. And I get that. Because I, too, felt a sense of sort of sadness when I saw this video of her. I'm like, oh, she's alive and well. It's over.

That sucks. Yeah. And so people are not letting the theory die. And I get it. But I do think it's her. And I think you know, I get it. But I do think, I think it's her. And I think we need to let, you know, bygones be bygones. Do I think it's hella convenient she went to like a public place and there was not one other person behind her in the video? Like another person at the bar?

Yeah, I do. I thought that was strange. Like a passerby-er? Was there not? It was completely empty? Yeah. I i mean the parking lot was full there were cars and stuff okay i'm going to watch the video again okay i see cleared maybe i see literally three people behind her are they like royal people no they're sitting at a table like eating okay okay oh another extras okay another one it's also like a two second video but no it

seems as though there were people okay and no one's like looking like oh wow that's kate and harry i mean oh my god kate and william well they do look pretty low-key you would not think that these are he's wearing a hat she's wearing athleisure If you're not paying attention to your surroundings, looking out for Kate Middleton, it's plausible to think you just think it's like a couple going to the farm. But the person in the car knew, but nobody else did? Well, that's an eagle-eyed viewer. Yeah, no, I think if you wanted to poke holes and continue the theory, you could.

I think so too, and I know people will. Yeah, I'm going to, I think, let it rest here. Like we've had our fun and it was it was fun. The memes made me giggle. I enjoyed all of the content but I think it's time. I do and I think like everybody kind of needs to get a grip. Like I understand the sadness and not wanting the fun to end but the party's got to end and I think it officially it ends here yes but also some Kate adjacent news is that Rose Hanbury has spoken out and was responding to the Prince William affair rumors via her lawyers so we love a litigious queen told business insider via her lawyers that rumors that she had an affair with William are completely false. Yes.

And actually, I wanted to share this because I had said yesterday that the Rose Hanbury rumors started and ended with Dumois. Now, they actually started years prior and they were known to have been completely made up. They laid dormant for a while and then Dumois resurfaced them. And now they're just sort of believed to be true. And let me read exactly. It was started by a journalist. Hold on.

Somebody posted it in Toast After Dark. So the Rose Hanbury rumor did not begin on Dumois. Like six years ago, a tabloid journalist started the rumor and then after being threatened with lawsuits from Rose and her husband, came clean and said it was made up for traction and publicity.

He knew Kate and William and Rose and her husband lived close to each other in Norfolk. So he picked Rose as a mistress at random. Poor Rose. The rumor is not based in fact. It's literally garbage. A couple of years ago, somebody obviously found out about the debunked rumor, wrote it into Jumoa, and now TikTok users who've never paid attention to the Royals before have found it and sort of run rampant with it. Kate and Rose are friends. They actually went to a music festival together last year. Pippa Middleton named her daughter Rose a few years ago. Rose's husband is one of the richest and most esteemed members of nobility, which is why his son was in the coronation as a page. So just some background on the rumor. Yeah, I feel like everyone's feeling a little crazy

right now. Like they're they if you are sensible, like you must be feeling a little stupid. What did they say about Rose feeling a little stupid what did they say about rose i mean what did rose say i'm sorry and why to business insider like the publication with no reach and i do not seriously know why but her lawyer said that it was completely false and i will not be becoming an insider and subscribing to learn more by the way it's like she wanted nobody to see her statement because she put it on Business Insider, which nobody reads. And two, behind a paywall, no one's paying for that shit.

So post it on Instagram if you want people to see it. If not, it's like she's burying it in like the loseriest like publication. Yeah, but it's like if you know it's not true and there's not a morsel of truth to it, then just like let people look and act crazy. You know? I know. But they really, they've been taking it really far and saying like really defamatory things

about her and her husband and her family. And like at some point, like it's bothersome. No matter how rich and noble you are. Like it's bothersome. She's a literal queen. All of them are. Well, she's actually a Marquess. The richest member of nobility her husband is.

Like you think they really care what some people on Twitter are saying. In another country. Like it's beyond irrelevant. And if she just puts her phone down, it all is over. And she goes back to her fabulous life. I guess like not saying anything also makes it look true. And they are saying like things that are defamatory to her character. Like I understand.

Saying not, but saying something also makes it look true too thou doth to protest too much like the argument can be made both ways no I think like making one statement after all the speculation like doesn't that's not thou doth to protest too much I just think there's no winning when people are hell-bent on thinking something is true let them talk talk that talk as long as the people around her don't think it that you know the people that she cares about who cares yeah rise above rose rise above are you ready for our next story which is kind of crazy but i kind of get it okay richard Richard Simmons is backtracking the claim that

he is dying and he's apologizing for confusion so Richard Simmons clarified that he's not actually dying just hours after claiming that he was before it sounds bad but I feel you Richard the former fitness instructor took to social media on Monday to apologize to fans for sparking concern over his health. So he had went on a Twitter thread the other, yesterday, sorry, this all happened yesterday. And he said, I have some news to tell you. Please don't be sad. I am dying. Oh, I can see your faces now.

The truth is we are all dying. Every day we live, we are getting closer to our death. Why am I telling you this? Because I want you to enjoy your life to the fullest every single day. Get up in the morning and look at the sky, count your blessings and enjoy. He went on to share a lot of tips for living like a healthy and beautiful life. Full, yeah. You know, eating oatmeal, eggs, wheat toast, how about a salad, maybe a a workout Richard Simmons has some on YouTube um and people thought that he was announcing that he was dying while also telling you how to enjoy your life to the fullest then he said I'm sorry many of you have gotten upset about my message today even

the press has gotten in touch with me I am not dying it was a message about saying how we should embrace every day that we have sorry for this confusion confusion. So he was saying like, I'm dying in the sense that we are all going to die. Right, the second you're born, you're literally dying. Now, I can see how somebody would read the tweet and A, think that he actually is dying, or B, like understand what he was really trying to say. I think, I don't think he was intentionally being confusing, but I could see how people got confused. And that said, he's a beloved figure.

When I read the tweet, primary source, I thought he was saying we are all dying in the general sense. But because I was reading that under the guise of like Richard Simmons says he's dying, I was like, oh, it kind of sounded like he was just saying we're all dying. But oh, sad he's dying too. He's dying like more immediately. Yeah, like in the near future. But then I was happy to go back to reading it through the other lens.

Like, yeah, we are all dying. Live healthy, make good choices. Go for it and prosper. He did end his thesis saying, yes, live healthy, make good choices. And please stream Live Like You Were Dying by Tim McGraw. That's what he said. A beautiful message. And I actually feel like that part was the most misleading no because actually what he's trying

to say is the lyrics to live like you were dying but nobody accused tim mcgraw rocky mountain climate yeah by the way because he said live like you were dying he was very clear that he actually wasn't dying but you should live like you are. But when Tim McGraw wrote that song, nobody accused him of being like, oh, you told us you were dying. He's like, no, I'm just saying. In the song, he makes it very clear that he's not. Literally in the title, live like you were dying.

It makes it clear that you're not, but you should live like you are. Richard Simmons didn't do it. How would you phrase it if you were dying? Live, because I'm dying.? Live because I'm dying. Live because I'm dying. Okay, Richard Simmons. Jackie, you know what that's giving?

Title. Live because you're dying. Yeah. That literally sounds like a line from Yellowstone. You got to live because you're dying. You know? Yeah. I think it's a good message in general I think Richard Simmons I got lost in the in the delivery across our desk like yeah life is short we are all dying

live like it it's beautiful Richard what's like the craziest thing you've ever done like when I saw your friend Dana over the weekend and she was telling me about how she surprised her husband on her honeymoon with skydiving. And they went to this like really scary airstrip and like it was the scariest thing ever. And they did it. And her husband who was like,

Dana's crazy, ended up having like the most amazing experience. Dana had done it before. He had not. And I was like, I've never done anything like, you know, daredevilish. Have you?

Like never went bungee jumping? No, not in a daredevilish. Have you? I've never went bungee jumping. No, not in a daredevilish sense. Things that seemed crazy for me, but for other people would be like, okay, you jumped off the diving board. Congrats. Yeah, no. Literally same. You dived into the pool.

I'm trying to think like- Like the leap of faith in the Bahamas. I'm sorry, but we're just not- We're not like that. I don't like to test God. I'm just not a person who believes in doing dumb things. For like a video it's just for me it's for what like say it all goes well and whatever for what right for the experience is why people do it I'm really trying to think like I've never gone like swimming with sharks like I've never not even got swimming

with dolphins like I've never done anything even remotely crazy I like jumped off, jumped off of, like, a rock in the British Virgin Islands. But, like, in hindsight, it was probably six feet. Yeah, I've jumped off, like, a rock. Yeah. Yeah. I've never, like, yeah. Like, I've done a roller coaster. I wonder if Brian has ever gone skydiving.

I feel like he's, like, too tall. You can't even fit in the plane. I don't think that's a thing. I know he does like scuba diving. He's done like swimming with whales. Like no, I've never done anything like that. Maybe you're kind of exposing him like because he's the.

He's not a real thrill seeker? No, like he's first of all a thrill seeker plus aviation thrill seeking and he hasn't done it. I'm going to ask him if he's ever gone skydiving. I really don't think he has and I don't think he will now because he's like a dad. I feel like he would. I feel like maybe he I would if I had to bet I would say that he has. Have you ever gone skydiving question mark? If not comma

would you ever? And if not comma why? Would you ever? Okay I asked. I'll leave that open. I'm very curious to see what he says. I feel like he has. You do? Yeah. I feel like I would have seen a photo. Free Instagram. Oh, yeah. And he has been in the travel game.

He's done it. Didn't need to do it again, but he has done it is what I think. Okay. I mean, we'll see. He's not typing yet, but he's the type of person. He's always on his phone. Okay. I love people like that.

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So do that. Thank you, Claudia. You're welcome. Our next story, Ariana Grande will pay her ex-husband Dalton Gomez $1.25 million as they finalize their divorce. The dish solution of the former couple's two-year marriage became official Tuesday in the LA superior court she and he settled the case in

October 2023 but were required to wait six months before the judge's order could take effect so she who has an estimated net worth of 240 million dollars will make a one-time payment of 1.25 million dollars to Dalton with no future alimony. She has also agreed to give him half of the proceeds from the sale of their LA home and will pay up to $25,000 toward his attorney fees. And then that's that on that. Okay, I just want to say, like, obviously a million dollars sounds like a lot of money. In the scheme of a divorce and how much worse it could have been in Kelly Clarkson, Adele,

she obviously, obviously like she's gonna be the seven husbands of Ariana Grande I think she knows that and she has this iron clad prenup that if anybody wants to marry her like they just have to sign this document and a million dollars to her is like I want to say like a thousand dollars to a normal person maybe less actually like a hundred um good work you know good work generous to give the sale of the house but again these are pennies to her yeah also with the proceeds of the sale of the house so say she bought the house I'm sure she got her money back and then whatever if they made a little money on the house you got half of that half no it's giving charity case and I love it like I love love love when successful women

have more money and like I just I love that like it's one of my favorite things like giving no money to your husband whereas like if the roles were reversed like give her half you know of everything of course but it's still like he got a million dollars no and I'm like ew ick you took money a million dollars from a woman like you're disgusting I this is one of my favorite tropes I love when like successful women embarrass men, you know? Mm-hmm. I love that. Yeah, this seems, that feels right in the words of the redheads.

It does feel right. Like when Adele, I didn't love when Adele gave $70 million to that like fuck. She gave him $70 million. They got married in California. I don't believe they had a prenup. Like literally half of everything. She was worth $140 million. He got $70. Oh my God.

Is that not the craziest most just like that's where like and I believe in marriage you know like I just feel like that's nuts that's that law despicable wow okay are you ready for our fifth and final story okay but then I don't think it's so despicable when Mackenzie Bezos got like you know a hundred billion like I love that for her it's not one size fits all no and you know what it is so sorry it's extremely gendered it is gendered it is you never said it wasn't right so Adele like giving him a child and 70 million dollars like I'm sick vomiting vomiting it's disgusting how many kids did Mackenzie Bezos have a number number a number Mackenzie yeah and she was with him from the beginning like you know garage garage four kids four kids I'm sorry that's worth 36 billion or whatever it was 36 billion

she and by the way she gave it all away I think she kept like a million dollars for herself couldn't be me I think she kept a little more than that like I'm sure like she gave away a lot I'm sure she kept a lot no I think there's a lot to go around no it's true if somebody gave me 36 billion like I really wouldn't need all that and if I was like an extremely charitable person yeah I'd give away 35 yeah you really don't need more than a billion dollars. I think that's where things... Okay, maybe, Jackie, 34. Two billion. Yeah, because you want to give me one. Oh, okay, so 33.

And then I have to give Ben one, too. I feel like after two billion, things get problematic. Murky. Yeah, I do believe there is such thing as too much money. It's important to... And I think money problems are relative. Whether you have a lot of money, what someone would consider a lot of money or you know live in poverty like everybody has their own poverty is different but you know what I mean

like everybody worries about money on a different scale and you could see someone who you perceive to be super wealthy but it's all relative to them like they're worried about their bills they'll have a higher higher uh cost of living but I also feel like just karmically the absolute wealthiest people are not the happiest so you don't want to be there no no no you got to bring it down I would like to be no I feel like a really good amount of money to have is like 500 million dollars like that would make me feel good yeah I feel like the Kardashians are happy honestly yeah but they have stayed really in their own weird way like grounded in their values and family and religion things like that you have to when you get hit with fame or money like you have to stay grounded in certain things that's why a lot of celebrities people like are always shocked to

find are very religious no but i'm saying that like 500 million range is like the exact amount of money that the kardashians have more or less 500 million million no because kim and kylie are both billionaires liquidity liquidity you see this going around that Kylie's like broke poor and that's why she's starting all these companies just like hopefully one hits in the way that Kylie Cosmetics did they think she lives beyond her means she's selling her Beverly Hills house um I don't think so I also think it's more expensive to start companies than to just like take a million dollars for an Instagram post. Agreed, by the way.

I also think, I don't dislike the theory that there are certain celebrities who might be, you know, not as wealthy as we think they are. I don't think Kylie to be one of them. Of all the things you could say about the girls, like they're extremely savvy business-wise, financially. Kris makes sure everybody's really sort of buttoned up. So I like the theory. I just don't think it applies to Kylie. Yeah, I don't think so me neither are you ready for our fifth and final story oh bidding is such sweet sorrow yeah but it's actually something that's been speculated on for

a while and we have our first bit of news that the new James Bond has been chosen. And it's definitely giving wah, wah, wah. British actor Aaron Taylor Johnson has been formally offered the chance to play James Bond and will sign contracts this week, says a source. So if you don't know Aaron Taylor Johnson, neither did I. Oh, I know him because he's in a very weird relationship, right? Is that the guy? Who is that? Okay, people on tiktok are obsessed i believe aaron taylor johnson is like more of a he got his start in theater okay aaron

taylor johnson yes and he's married to sam taylor johnson who was like many many years his senior they met in 2009 he was 18 she was 42 they have been together ever since it's really fucking weird but how do you know that like how do you know him from what people from the relationship people are obsessed because he's like really really hot it's like oh who's he gonna date and then you find out he actually married like the woman who groomed him when he was 18 you know and that's why it's Taylor Johnson they put their last names together I think he was Johnson and she was Taylor because she wasn't gonna take his name they met she was his director I believe she's a filmmaker so I'm sorry like it's

gross and I don't like it how long have they been married since 2009 so at what point can you say like this is true love and I accept it oh I don't think I can ever because it was yeah I think it's kids grandkids and you would still say this was wrong yeah is that crazy kind of oh no because I feel like he will never be able to like know anything other because you know when he was so vulnerable and you think about how boys like have the emotional maturity they're like five years delayed he was really like 13 yeah don't say that he was no I'm sorry this is it's disgusting and honestly I don't like it okay hopefully he gets really really famous as Bond gets all like the money and access in the world. And I don't know, maybe meets a therapist or I don't know, something.

You think he's trapped? No, I don't think he's trapped. I think it's sort of like, what's that Stockholm syndrome kind of? Like he's a victim. And I just want to say, I don't like it for Bond. I feel like we've had, there's been sort of, you know, people championing certain actors to get the role over the years. It was Idris Elba, but they took too long and he kind of, you know,

aged out. Miles Teller, Regé-Jean-Paul. Like, there are all these people. I didn't see anybody saying Aaron Taylor Johnson should be it. Now, I obviously like that he's British. I think, I like like it he looks just like daniel craig it looks like he could they're not trying to reinvent the role they're just like here here's another one another one i don't like it i don't dislike it he's handsome by the way

mind you i've never seen a bond movie in my life so this is not for me and and nobody you haven't nobody over at team bond gives a rip what i think i've seen a 007 i've not seen one that's like really crazy no he's super hot i just i don't like it who would you have wanted to see mind you should be someone british harry styles but then then he's only ever like, that kind of limits him. I know, by the way, I didn't mean that in a serious way. No, he's not right for it. And he's like too busy.

Yeah. Who's like the young, hot British thang, you know? But buff. Buff. Someone like Taron Egerton, but he obviously has his own franchise, which is so good, The Kingsman. So good. I don't know.

I would need to think about it, like on a really serious, I need to do some research. Okay. Well, also, this is kind of a rumor, though I do think it's true because this came out of nowhere, he came out of nowhere, unless this is really good marketing for him, like make everyone think you have the role. And then they'll be like, oh, yeah, he would be good for it.

Right, right. Like they start seeing you as Bond. Yeah, as bond yeah but the thing is it's not hard to see him as bond he looks like a young Daniel Craig I don't like it okay I don't dislike it well we'll just have to agree to this and I feel like he's someone who will become bond as opposed to bond now becoming about the actor like he's it needs to be somebody like well known but not enough that it's confusing because you you are Bond forever you are Bond forever Bond is you you are one you are bonded even like characters Daniel Craig has played between Bond movies are Bond coded yeah he's just like that slick you you know, sort of,

he doesn't play anyone poor ever, you know? Yeah, he was in Glass... Onion. Knives Out. Glass Onion. Both. Was he in Knives Out? Who was he?

He's the detective. Knives Out and then Knives Out Glass Onion. Oh, wait, wait, wait. Oh, is he? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Was, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i saw those yeah so yeah i guess that's oh wait brian brian answered me so interesting he has not because he's so tall he is above the weight limit. So you were right.

I guess about his height being an impetus, but because of weight. What's the weight limit? I probably would, though. It's safe, is what he said. What's the weight limit? I don't know. I wonder if the weight limit has to do with the plane or the parachute. I think the parachute.

I don't know. I wonder if like Brian, how far away is he? Like maybe he would lose a few just to do it. Right. He probably is on the cusp because he's a fit guy. Right. And maybe it's like,

okay, if I lost 10 pounds, I could go skydiving. Then I can go back to my weight. Right. Is it 50? Is it 10? It's a good point. But clearly he's thought it through.

Yeah, no, obviously. I'm sure every time he goes to like a place one of the things to do is like you gotta skydive here and he's like i can't that he should have done it when he was younger before he got so tall so true i wonder what the age limit is the minimum well you have to sign like your whole life away so i probably 18 oh the minimum minimum Minimum, yeah. I think I meant the limit. Oh, for sure. Otherwise, you need a parent or guardian, and really, who's going to want their child to do that?

Say, yeah, kid, son, have a good time. I feel like it's something that people do when they, like, finally get out of the house. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They, like, run to the nearest. They, like, go to another country for the first time. They're like, fuck it, I'm skydiving. No, like, I would never.

Yeah. So that's it that's it that's the whole thing that's a show why don't you wrap it up today okay thank you so much for listening to the toast today and every day really we appreciate you so much it's so nice to have listeners of our elk who really enjoy this jolly good show that we put on. Oh, she's making a meal of it. A meal of acceptance speech. Okay.

It's been wonderful doing the show with my girl, La Swirl. La Turd. She's off to go running. We wish her well on this journey. Oh, I forgot. Oh, sorry. Sorry. I need to eat something first.

Don't make me ask. What are you going to eat? I don't know. Fuck. Now I'm in like a literal bad mood oh geez okay I'll just wrap it up love ya bye