The Toast - Load Bearing Pasta: Friday, October 18th, 2024
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Good morning, millennials, and welcome back to the toast and happy Friday, a gargi-pargi
Friday, a gargi-pargi day of the week, you know, any week.
This week in particular, Jackson Clutter together in Florida.
It's Taylor Day.
So let's, that means a lot of things, right?
It means that we're in conservation mode.
Oh, by the way, Rep TV didn't drop.
Well, she could announce it today.
Like, yay.
No, it didn't make sense that everybody thought Rep was coming.
But Friday night, music gets released Thursday at midnight.
Taylor can release music whenever she wants.
Yeah, but she cares a lot about going number one and getting all the sales.
That's true.
So today's episode is an audio-only extravaganza because Jackie and I are two women in our
30s going to the Heiress Tour.
And that means something, you know? Well, we didn't want to do makeup twice today and it's just been
a crazy day around here and in order to get the episode up in a timely manner audio only it is
yeah and I'm not mad because like I said this is the first time I've gone to the heiress tour three
times um but this is my first time going as a woman who's 30 years old and not to put you like you're 31 like it's like really nothing
it's a lot we really can't hang like we used to I mean I think the first time I went to the
arrow store I was 28 no no Nashville that was May so it was before my birthday yeah it was literally
I was 28 yeah yeah I guess that was a really long time ago imagine how tailored feels when she
started doing the arrow store she was 17 32 and now ago. Imagine how tailored feels when she started doing the aerostore. She was 17. 32.
And now she's going to be 35.
And when she finishes, that's crazy.
No, I know.
So I'm really excited, but I am nervous like about how it's going to take a toll on my body.
Yeah.
I just made up those numbers, by the way, about 32 and 35.
But Taylor's an easy person to age because we all know she was born in 1989.
So.
So true.
So that would make her 35. In December. In 34 yeah crushed it that actually so true kind of big mistake on her part letting everyone know letting everyone know I'm so excited
we are gonna honestly it's like a whole day affair because we have to make a little bit of a drive
and we haven't decided yet if we're gonna go see Gracie Abrams we haven't decided we haven't decided yet if we're going to go see Gracie Abrams. We haven't decided.
We haven't made our plan, gotten a snack and packed an umbrella yet.
No, and we might need an umbrella.
We might need an umbrella.
And when Jackie and I took a trip this summer to go to Luke Holmes on the way back home,
we had like nothing in the car to help us.
Like we it was such a long car.
That one was like three hours to the Hamptons.
But we needed like blankets, snacks, a microwave.
Like we didn't have anything.
And let me tell you, we're not making that mistake we are seriously packing a trunk stocking the car I think
I'm gonna put my crock pot in there and maybe I could use like the cigar outlet to like light it
up light it up and we could have a roast chicken when we come out of the concert I love that idea
I'm definitely bringing like slippers blankets pajamas we could have a chili waiting for us we
could have a chili um like I'm so nervous about not having blankets, pajamas. We could have a chili waiting for us. We could have a chili.
Like I'm so nervous about not having the things.
Like we were freezing in the back of that car.
Ben wouldn't let us turn the air conditioning off.
We were wearing tiny little dresses.
We didn't even have a blanket, nothing.
Yeah.
We will not make that mistake again.
We will be prepared.
We will be prepared.
Be prepared.
I flew in last night.
You guys, Jackie made me such, Like it was a long day you know
We worked we had a bunch of things and then I went straight to the airport
Got on the flight and by the time I got to your house
Like I was ravenous
Like felt weak you know needed iron
And there was such a meal waiting for me
Not only did she make me exactly what I requested
Which was Jackie's chicken meatballs
Are amazing and pasta
I didn't even talk to you about this like offline
The shape of pasta you decided to go with, which is such a personal choice, honestly.
It's 10 out of 10.
No notes.
What would you call that?
Rigatoni?
That's rigatoni.
I sent Zach to the store.
I said, first, get like a box from the, get top shelf pasta.
He's like, I don't know what that is.
I'm like, on the top shelf is what it means.
That's where they, the nicer, higher priced items are on the top shelf.
Yeah.
That's why when it's like top shelf liquor, like the cheaper ones are on the bottom.
So I was like, get top shelf pasta for 30.
That's so funny.
And he was like, what shape?
And I was like, any shape except penne.
Agreed.
Even though I would have eaten it.
Penne and meatballs does not work.
Okay.
Penne and meatballs doesn't work.
Neither does angel hair and meatballs.
Like angel hair is so weak.
Yeah.
It doesn't have the strength.
It is no foundation.
It's so true. That rigatoni was thick. Spaghetti is so weak yeah it has no strength it is no foundation it's so true that rigatoni was thick spaghetti is so obvious i'm down i'm not gonna lie like i'm not gonna knock
it like it's an obvious one for a reason though it's the cliche for a reason but it was just like
not what i didn't want to make you spaghetti and meatballs like how pedestrian it's so true and
then i feel like somebody who doesn't know a lot about like cooking like zach just harmlessly they
could have picked up like shells.
And that would have been.
He was really.
I said to him, he was like, I don't know what to get because he called me from the store.
I'm like, there's no wrong choice.
No, but there is.
If I'm telling you, get what you want, just not penne.
There is a wrong choice though.
Like elbows is not the vibe.
I also like fusilli.
Spiral.
Okay.
I like fusilli too.
Not with a meatball.
Meatballs really kind of complicate things in
terms of like sound structural sound like yeah it's you need a load-bearing pasta exactly a
load-bearing noodle and so a rigatoni like even a bad rigatoni is big like it's kind of i feel
like you can never go wrong with rigatoni i do agree with that and penne has just become
pedestrian i don't know if that's the
right word. So accessible, you know, like kids are eating it, you know, it's not special.
No, it is not special. It was so good. And then she also made me, you guys,
chocolate chip cookies from scratch using sourdough discard. They were amazing.
Thank you so much. And she vlogged the whole experience.
I did. I knew I was going to be like cooking for you all day and getting the house ready for you.
And I just got, I'm sure you saw in my house, like this tripod
for my kitchen so that I can cook more and film myself. Cause I really, as I said, I enjoy
blogging. You can't lie to the people. You don't have just like a tripod in your kitchen. You guys,
she has a tripod on wheels that like seriously has a ring light and a thing for your phone.
And it's like this, it looks like, you know, when people walk around the hospital with their IV,
right? Like they need to, they need to go to the bathroom or something, but they can't leave
their IV.
So they take their big rolling IV bag with them on a stick.
She walks around the house like with this big tripod on wheels.
I've never seen a tripod on wheels before.
I take content creation seriously.
I told you guys I like vlogging and I really want to invest in myself.
No, I love it.
Like where, when you have company over, like where does it go?
It's so big.
The garage.
By the way, the boys, like when they see a tribe, how they go crazy because like it's
a fun stick to play with.
And this one has confounded them.
They broke my last one.
Classic.
Actually, it was on its last leg.
Like one of the screws fell out, but it wasn't their fault.
And it's not even about company.
It's about like, how do I hide it from them?
Usually I have drapes in my dining room.
We just took them down because we're adding a valance just drape things you know okay um when the drapes come back
I can hide the tripod behind the drapes very yeah that's a very uh Claudia thing to do I love to
like hide things because I don't want to bring it to my garage and like bring them out bring them
out every time I decide and when you create content as frequently as we do like you can't
just be putting things away well it's not even about the vlogging. I could also film more videos in my kitchen,
like for my stories of my bread
and like maybe make one cooking reel, maybe.
Maybe.
I don't know about that.
Don't make any promises because it's really crazy.
Yeah.
But you guys have to sort of see this thing to understand it.
Maybe we'll do like a-
I'm putting it in the vlog.
In the vlog, I talk about how I got new equipment
and then I have like a vignette of it is it from
amazon like yeah okay so what happened was i asked ben for the one that he used in the hamptons that
we used to clip onto the counter yeah and we were always using a good one however my counters don't
hang off so i actually don't think i'd be able to clip it onto my island and i and then you could
upgrade that same tripod to the one with
wheels and I was like I think it's got to be a wheelie it's seriously one of the craziest things
I've ever seen in my life um but you know a content creator lives here and let me tell you as a content
creator myself I can attest to the fact that like nothing is more personal than like choice of
tripod yeah choice of mount like it's such a personal thing so I'm glad that you found something
that works for you thank you so much you're welcome how are the stories today weird yeah it's like a Friday
there's weird vibes like maybe it's just because like I'm not in my usual routine and the weather
here is like kind of gloomy but do you feel like today's like a weird day yeah it's just like to
come to be together starting on Friday usually like it's a Monday or something but like to
bring that Friday energy it's just it's incongruous with the facts.
It's totally incongruous.
And I feel like it feels like a weekend for us.
So it's mostly like the fact that we're sitting here.
It's like, why are we working on a weekend?
Right.
Okay.
Well, the good news is, is like, we're not far off from the weekend for everybody, no
matter where you are.
Like tomorrow is Saturday.
Even though it was the four day week.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
I was actually just reminiscing because I was choosing my Queenie and weenie of the week and I was like what happened this week?
Not Craig's episode being this week that was an eternity ago. Right right. Honorable mention he's
not my queenie but. I feel like I hear someone rolling around my tripod. Oh no they're messing
with mommy's things. Yeah it also is loud. So you know mom's coming down the hallway everyone clear
out. It's so true. I mean she's literally like next thing you know mom's coming down the hallway everyone clear out it's so true
i mean she's literally like next thing you know she's gonna come down in a hospital gown like
it's the craziest thing you guys i'll make sure to get some content of jackie and the tripod this
weekend i'm committed to my craft that's all i'll say i think that's beautiful thank you so much
so i'm ready to dive in if you are like you said the stories are weird but like we are not
we are not and we do need to like cap off the week right there's a lot of loose ends to tie up it's true we have a lot to say it
it wouldn't feel right if we not that like we have a choice to do this episode or not right i mean i
guess like we technically have free will but no like we have to work no like you have jobs yeah
you could not show up to work but like will you still have a job no why don't you fuck around and
find out right as it says on my wall.
Yeah.
Jackie, very underratedly in her studio has a kind of gorgeous.
Would you say that's, you know, a postmodern type of art?
Oh, I guess it is postmodern.
Yes.
It's a it's a piece that says fuck around and find out.
And just the story, if I may, and explain why it's in here.
I ordered a lot of my furniture, including these Bukal chairs that we sit on from Scout
Design Studio, and they have really great art. And around the time i started saying fuck around and find out they also
had this piece so they were like we would love to gift it to you like it's so you oh she really is
an influencer she's getting gifts and she has a tripod on wheels gifted art however it has a swear
word in it that's why it's in my studio and not just like on the ground in my house. Not the swear word. Not the swear word.
Well, in addition to, you know, you welcoming me into your home and giving me great food and a place to stay.
You've also introduced me to the Fall Out Boy, Spidey to Ran, Disney Junior soundtrack.
Yeah.
So I guess Jackie's kids are obsessed with this like random show that I have seriously
never heard of.
Spidey and his amazing friends.
And it's like the books and they have everything.
And I guess in conjunction with the TV version, Fall Out Boy came out with
like a whole album soundtrack. Yeah. Let me tell you, that shit's really good. You guys to your
friendly neighborhood spider like that shit pops all the way off. Can't be tighter. I love when
like famous people dabble in children's things
Like and they take it seriously
And they bring their art
And their talent
To the kids space
I think that's actually
Like a really generous
Use of their time
Yeah the way I like
To imagine it
Is that like
Fallout boy Pete
His kids
Has kids
And they maybe
Watched Spiderman
And he was feeling inspired
Like hey I could write
Like a great theme song
To this show
And I would love to think
That like that's how Art happens I think like in a more realistic sense the way how I perceive like these
sort of artistic collaborations to happen is that kids gigs like just pay really well and that's how
they get like Tyler the creator to do that whole Grinch thing right yes okay that but that's like
different because the Disney Junior show is not like grinch illumination yeah they don't have that kind of budget it's true um and i also feel like when a show does
want to do a soundtrack and it's like a small show they probably get like fake fallout boy yeah you
know that's what i thought i was listening to at first because it doesn't say fallout boy
on the song and i was like oh they like got like fake panic at the disco whatever and like it's
working for me and then a mom i was talking to was like fallout boy did the whole and i was like oh they like got like fake panic at the disco whatever and like it's working for me and then a mom i was talking to was like fallout boy did the whole album i was
like oh okay that makes it's really good yeah it is like adults and kids alike like things you have
to listen to on repeat it could be so much worse so true so thank you fallout boy thank you and
thank you for introducing me to that like i'm actually enjoying it and i know ben is like
probably listening to it alone in his car. Yeah like adding it to his emo night playlist. Okay well now. Without further ado here are the fast five stories that you need
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Thank you slash the turt.'re welcome slash the jerk our first story is a bit of an update from yesterday's story because um tributes are pouring in from for liam pain
especially from his one direction cast members yeah so all of the members of one direction have
put out a statement including then the the One Direction official page.
But Harry and the boys each wrote their own individual thing for Liam,
just talking about the tragedy and how they'll be there for his kids
and just honoring his life.
I feel like the most interesting one was Zane's
because when you have a really complicated relationship with someone
and a history of not getting along, but you spent so much time together and you really grew up together
um and then they pass away like those are complicated feelings and so I actually thought
his was really well well written like everybody's was really sweet yeah I mean what is there to say
it's so sad yeah but his like there's a lot of history there and I thought like he actually
wrote something really lovely especially when everybody's looking to you like oh what are you
gonna say because of course like we were just talking last week about the up against the wall thing exactly um so you know
that there's had been issues in the past but all of that is washed away when something like this
happens and then also other news is coming out about like liam's final weeks yeah um it was
reported that universal music which was his record label dropped him just days before his
death yeah a lot of the things that i've seen like i feel like would lead one to think that
like perhaps he did take his own life because i'm now seeing a ton of podcast clips that he's done
in like years and no one when you stitch them together they look like something but if you just
were following at the time he just talked about like his struggles with like suicidal ideation
at times and like how you know his worst nightmare is being left alone in a hotel room.
He had actually said that on a podcast, which was kind of creepy.
And then this like, you know, getting bad news because, you know, like his solo career was a kind of in this weird place.
It does lead you to think that maybe it wasn't an accident, but we don't know for sure.
I don't know if we will ever know for sure.
Yeah.
but we don't know for sure.
I don't know if we will ever know for sure.
Yeah.
And apparently like the CCTV,
like cameras and the security cameras in the lobby,
like weren't working for the hours that he was, but I don't,
I don't know if that's supposed to be like,
make us think it's like shady.
I just feel like this hotel was like,
like not equipped for a mega star to show up at,
you know?
Yeah.
I mean,
maybe his close family though would like,
no,
because also there are like ways to,
you know,
know the trajectory of the fall and
yeah like velocity and stuff like that um so maybe his family will get that information but that
doesn't mean that they'll share it like with the public so we might not ever know um and also in
addition to like this bad news of the record label being dropped there was like his ex not to say
anything like you know she's entitled to tell her story. Are you talking about Maya?
Yeah, that there was just like a lot of like really bad stuff about him.
Yeah, like pretty significant allegations from her.
Yeah.
And she has been, I haven't seen her say anything yet.
She had been talking a lot.
Like she was, I think she was writing this book that was like a fiction book,
but she made it abundantly clear that like it was about her relationship
and the time that she spent with him.
And she had been doing like podcasts, like like promoting it and it's been total radio silence
since then I don't know like how or what she could even say but yeah that's where it gets complicated
right like two things can be true yeah yeah no it's really sad and I spent so much time on social
media yesterday because I was traveling and like literally what else is there like I had my kindle
but god forbid I even opened it up.
Because it didn't have buttons.
And I just want to say like the, and I knew that the One Direction like fanhood was big
and powerful and like all encompassing, but it has been 10 years, right?
Yeah, I feel like they were kind of laying dormant.
There wasn't anything for them to engage with.
No, they are very, very much alive and they're really not doing well.
Like this is absolutely devastating. Like I was, I was really shocked to see like how many, and it's, very much alive and they're really not doing well. Like this is absolutely devastating.
Like I was, I was really shocked to see like how many, and it's, it's people like me.
Like I grew up, I was such a One Direction fan, but like these are all now like grown
people, um, really struggling with this news.
Yeah.
And I think for like Liam at the, at the height of the band, like, I feel like everybody had
their favorites and there was some that were like, like Harry was a lot of people's favorites,
but Liam was up there.
Like he, I would say, yeah, I would say he was probably like people's second or third favorite between him Harry and Zayn okay yeah I see that I also thought it was really interesting
how everybody um in their statements the the the boys from the band regarded him as like this
even though he was the youngest I didn't realize that at the time they were all around like 18 or
19 but he was 16 he was the most experienced when it came to music and also I think he was the youngest, I didn't realize that at the time, they were all around like 18 or 19, but he was 16.
He was the most experienced when it came to music. And also I think he was like the most confident.
He kind of took on like an oddly, like a mentorship role,
even though he was younger than everyone else.
And they all remarked on that in their statements.
And I like never would have known that
or even guessed that he was.
But then when you go back and watch all their
like original auditions,
which is now content that is taking over my free page.
I saw them torn.
Like, let me tell you,
like those boys literally couldn't sing if their life depended on like harry styles singing drops
of jupiter like it was in one of the rounds like before they were made a band like an actual piece
of shit i was listening to them sing torn that's their first um they put them together as a band
threw them in a room and this was their first performance torn it's not bad but before that
like i was like waiting i was like this. I was like, this is going to be like Fifth Harmony singing Anything Can Happen.
And I was just like waiting to be moved.
I was like, oh no, they really grew together.
They all actually really matured vocally.
It's amazing that they all made it past the first audition,
let alone to like the fourth or fifth to get put together as a band.
But if you ever like truly want to giggle, like go watch everybody's.
Louis, Louis tomlinson
like these are five people who actually like have no singing abilities it's unbelievable and i guess
that's where sidenkowl deserves his credit no actually i don't know if you've seen this before
liam payne i'm telling you nicole scherzinger is like having a moment i told you about her
thing on broadway but apparently like the x Factor UK archive, like finally released a bunch
of footage of the actual put together, like the moment that the boys were put together in a band.
And it was 1000% all Nicole Scherzinger. She literally, you see her playing with the pictures
of all the people who maybe get sent home, maybe go to the next round. She literally takes one,
two, three, four, five, and she's like, they would be a cute band. The girls would love them. Like
it was literally all her idea. And it's funny how simon cowell gets the credit like
marketing mastermind like your natural inclination just now was to be like and that's everyone's to
be like oh well simon cowell really saw in them what others couldn't say no it was literally
nicole scherzinger oh wow and niall horne was just asked about that in a um interview because
he was the first one that she pulled he she built the band around him
that's and they were like he yeah Niall they were like did you know that like this footage just came
out he was like I had no idea I was shocked he was like when I was a kid like I never thought
I think he thought he was like always just happy to be there and definitely not like the number one
guy um no thank you to whoever thought to like pull that footage out of the archive because
seriously like that's stuff we needed to know and so it was never before seen never before seen working in the x factor archive is that show still even on
the air okay okay so they like have an archival team and you know what the weird thing about
liam payne's time on x factor is is that he ended up dating and having a baby
with cheryl who was a judge on his season when he was 16 she was a judge on his season
i knew that they were together
for a while x factor royal i didn't realize oh he didn't like put together this week that that's who
is the mother of his child i also thought it was interesting like celebrity tributes for liam
beyond the boys like who he had professional and personal relationships with like charlie pooth
rita aura like i never would have guessed these people but i guess they had worked together in
yeah the rita aura song is like everyone knows that song.
I don't know that one.
I heard it on TikTok today.
It was the first time I heard it.
Really?
We were just talking about it.
No, we're talking about
Strip That Down For Me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You were talking about it.
That song.
Because I don't even really know that song, but.
I didn't know the Rita Ora, Liam Payne, Q Lab.
It is.
Something me.
Collect me. Something like that something me. Collect me.
Something like that.
Maybe.
Maybe not.
No, but they have a song, but I hadn't heard of it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But it's not like his top five on Spotify.
I feel like it was like popular in the UK.
Oh, here, for you.
For you.
I feel like it was popular in the UK.
They're like...
She's like oddly like really famous in the UK.
It's not odd.
She's Italian.
No, it's not odd.
But when we think of like her place in culture here,
it's very different than her place in culture.
There's a place for her.
I actually don't know if there is.
I think there's a place for her.
There's a place for us.
Like, maybe there is, yeah.
Well, very tragic.
Like, just very sad, sad news.
Yeah.
And every detail that comes in is just sadder.
I know.
Like, this record label thing, it's just, like, sad.
No, it makes you think, like, did that cause him to spiral? Right. Yeah, in is just sadder. I know. Like this record label thing, it's just like sad. No, it makes you think like, did that cause him to spiral?
Right.
Yeah, that is really sad.
Switching gears, if I may, to our next story,
which is actually going to elicit some strong feelings from you,
knowing your history.
Oh, who was a DUI?
Wait, I saw it this morning.
Wait, I forget.
Jay Cutler.
Jay Cutler was arrested for DUI and gun possession in Tennessee.
He has a Glock.
I have a Glock and I've had it for quite some time.
Jay Cutler was arrested on DUI charges on Thursday night.
Not only was he taken into custody for driving under the influence,
but he was also hit with three other charges, TMZ reported.
He was busted for gun possession, failure to exercise due care,
and violation of implied consent law.
Well, not cool of him to not exercise care for due.
Like, that's disrespectful.
Like, duke dadu?
That's very disrespectful.
I love that that's a crime.
Like, you didn't exercise due care.
I completely agree.
Like, get yourself together.
Care more.
I obviously have strong feelings about DUIs.
I think it's like the most disgusting, heinous, irresponsible thing you can do.
Like, I am a hater for life most of the time
if you have one.
The thing with Jay Cutler
is he is so someone
like I don't give a shit about.
Like,
if I wanted to stop engaging
with his content,
I didn't even engage ever.
Like,
I don't know how to stop
existing.
Like,
my relationship.
Your life doesn't have to change.
Like,
nothing about your behaviors
has to change.
Now,
someone who like has three kids and like having this type of behavior like obviously I feel sad for
like that's tough yeah um but again like this is just so not my
level of care like I don't care you know I'm expressing no do you care gonna be charged with
not lack of do care lack of do care I do care I do care. I know you do. I like Jay Cutler. I also, I don't like subscribe to his channel.
Things that he does.
But anytime he pops up doing an interview or even like I'm very careful.
Anytime I encounter him, like I like him.
Yeah.
That's why.
Because you watched Very Cavallari.
I didn't.
I did.
And then like, you know, I loved his interview with Sophia with an F.
Can I ask you a question?
Guys, if you haven't watched Jay Cutler on Sophia with an F.
We ship.
Ship.
Can I ask you a question?
I'm just now putting together.
What did you think of Shannon when you were watching Very Cavallari?
So it's hard because I don't remember.
She was like the villain, but you could tell that she was like being the villain.
And she was impossible to root for.
Like she wasn't doing her job.
And Kristen kept giving her chances. And like they wasn't doing her job and kristen kept giving
her chances and like they didn't establish why kristen would keep giving this person chances
like is she even good at her job we don't know right but there were also like other the girls
were supposed to be like the good girls like britanny she had an extra i in her name um
she like wasn't doing it for me either got it it. So you like couldn't pick a side. I couldn't,
there were a couple like girls,
I guess mostly like I liked Kristen and Jay because I thought that like the drama in the
store,
um,
the girls who we were like supposed to like,
who were like funny and cute and sweet,
like they weren't doing it for me.
And then like the villain is,
was villaining.
Right.
Right.
She was playing a part very much.
Yeah.
Interesting.
I never put that together that like at the time. I know. I always think Yeah. Interesting. I never put that together at the time.
I know.
I always think about that, too.
I think Shannon probably asked me that one.
She's such a different person.
It's crazy.
That's not her.
And when Shannon talks about the show, she was like, no.
They said, John Penney said, how high?
What can I do for the show?
How can I be the villain?
How can we make the show pop off?
I'm here.
I'm on television.
I'm excited.
And I'll do what it takes.
Good for a team player.
So I feel like that makes sense that that was my reaction, which was like, this person
is not doing likable things.
Right.
She wasn't trying to be like, she was just like trying to do good.
Do good entertainment.
Exactly.
That's so interesting.
Yeah.
Well, back to Jay Cutler, like seriously do better.
There's really not much to say when somebody acts so poorly and makes such bad decisions.
Yeah.
And thank God nobody got hurt with his Glock or with his driving.
Yeah.
And the possession was illegal?
Of the gun?
Yeah, like, because why was he charged with that?
Well, I believe in Tennessee, like, you can have a gun,
but you can't just, like, be throwing it around, you know?
I think it has to be, like, in a holster.
Maybe they pulled him over
and they found it, like, loose in the front seat,
not, like, in his Glock compartment. Okayck compartment okay like there are laws even when there it's like a like a like a state
that has like a gun yeah they're cool with guns field carry yeah like you can't just be like
whipping it out yeah twirling it around your index finger you're implying that he was twirling it
i think that that's what we're like and you're saying he was swirling it because when you get
a dui like they take you out of your car
and then everything in your car is like fair game, right?
It's where they find drugs.
And so maybe like his legal firearm
was being transported in an illegal way.
Or maybe like some people,
you know, he might have homes in different states
and like it's licensed in one state, not in another.
I don't know.
I don't have a Glock so i
don't know the rules and i'm just kind of guessing here yeah interesting yeah kind of like a vague
charge and then i just threw the book at him like the do care please elaborate further and then the
failure to consent to implied law the fuck does that mean too maybe he like didn't want to do a
breathalyze that's what i feel like he didn't want to do the line test or a breathalyzer but i saw
on tiktok once and so keep this in mind it's just tiktok like for illegal advice you don't want to do a breathalyzer. That's what I feel like. He didn't want to do the line test or a breathalyzer. But I saw on TikTok once.
And so keep this in mind.
It's just TikTok.
Like for illegal advice, you don't have to take a breathalyzer test.
Yeah.
But I don't know if that's true.
So if you would get pulled over, maybe just breathe.
But I think that like bodes poorly for you.
Like in the larger case, it's like they refused.
Yeah, right.
But I guess it bodes less poorly than a.09.
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah so because you
could just theorize about the person who didn't take the breathalyzer as opposed to somebody with
real results yeah yeah this is a legal podcast get your free legal advice from turdian barns
turdian barns turdian but who is your version of selena and barnes like is there a commercial down here that like plays i don't watch enough live television to say right no screen time but you could always
see them on the highway right they get you everywhere yeah your wife multimedia your wife
is hot your wife is hot i like that one okay j better. Like, actually, like, you're a grown-ass man.
Unacceptable.
And you're wealthy.
Like, get a car and driver.
I can't see Jay Cutler being chauffeured around.
He seems like the type who wants to take the wheel.
I can see Jay Cutler calling an Uber.
Like, I really could.
You could?
Yeah.
I actually, like, I couldn't.
Well, that's why we're different.
Like, I feel like he wants to be in control.
Well, then don't drink.
Like, you can't have it all. I'm not saying, like saying like he should I'm just saying some people aren't meant to be driven
around and some people are and I just want to say I am meant to be driven I I feel like you guys
can't see me behind the wheel yep yep I I just can't stress enough how much I love to be chauffeured
around whether it's by my husband by a stranger as an uber driver like I love to be chauffeured
me as well that's like if i won the
lottery like one of my first hires would be a personal chauffeur yeah like round the clock
anytime i need anything yeah call the chauffeur chives fire up the car fire like kind of how big
and sex and city always has ray like that's what i want yeah well are you ready for our next story
someone who's attempting to do better it seems, after so many times of not doing better.
Morgan Wallen is announcing his own festival
created with AEG Presents and Stagecoach producer Stacy V.
So after headlining Stagecoach in May,
country superstar Morgan Wallen will spend a weekend in May 2025
headlining his own newly created music festival
dubbed Sand In My Boots,
named after one of his most popular songs.
The festival will take place May 16th through 18th
on the shores of Gulf Shores, Alabama.
It was announced on Thursday.
Let me tell you, Ben went to the Gulf Shores of Alabama
like for Spritz a couple of, maybe like a year ago
and has not stopped talking about it since.
He says it's like seriously
the most underrated beautiful place on the planet.
Oh, wow.
It's kind of close to you.
Yeah, that's great. I was like, I first rolled my eyes at this because like it's like seriously the most underrated, beautiful place on the planet. Oh, wow. It's kind of close to you. Yeah, that's great.
I was like, I first rolled my eyes at this because like it's giving Astroworld.
Like I hate when people get into like festival planning when it's not your job.
Like it's obviously hard to do.
But having the stage coach and the AG is like a Live Nation type of company.
I feel like, you know, maybe they'll be able to pull it off.
You know, Live Nation was involved in Astroworld.
Whatever.
Actually, I think this is a good idea.
When you can sell that many tickets just yourself.
Yeah.
Why not make it a full affair and make it more of a business?
Because then we'll have a whole lineup of people probably who will participate.
Like pretty big names.
Yeah.
And then you get like the liquor sponsors and everybody buys tickets and they can't.
Like it's a whole thing.
And there aren't like enough country festivals in my opinion. Like ones i agree i think it's a good idea i think for
something like stagecoach people literally buy their stagecoach ticket because morgan wallen
is headlining so why not capture all of that for morgan self and then you think about how like
he came to new york he did two nights at msj no met life so it's like it's like 150 000 people right i think um
and that's just for a two-hour concert right like imagine it's actually a really smart business
decision decision but there are only so many people who could do it yeah it's the stadium
swirly so it's literally like him and taylor edge not even i don't think ed sheeran sells a lot of
tickets but i don't think they sell out years in advance.
Yeah, Luke too, but Luke just did something,
I think kind of similar to this actually.
Bootleggers.
Fireside bootleggers in the sand.
Yeah, bootleggers taking the boots by storm.
Sand in my bootleggers.
Also, Luke was actually asked about
his upcoming concert for the hurricane relief and if he's
going to sing hurricane.
And he said like, you know, I thought about it and ultimately I decided no.
That's our king right there.
Like king of sensitivity.
Even though if he said I thought about it and I ultimately decided yes, I would have
also responded that's my king right there.
Of course, I respect his decisions.
I respect his decisions as you should when you truly love someone inside and
out and that's what i'm trying to tell you guys a thousand percent trust your faves trust or else
they shouldn't be your faves yeah yeah so we won't be having like a demi lovato heart attack at the
american heart association type of moment which is for the best no it makes me like sad that we
won't have that type of moment however i wouldn I wouldn't want that type of moment on Luke.
Like I would rather clown on someone else.
Yeah, we're protective of his record.
Like we don't want that anywhere on his.
But like for Demi, it is so congruous with her.
With who she is.
Like so all over the place, never thinking.
Like not reading the room.
Yep.
Like doing acts of service without like thinking them through.
If I ever did that, I think i'd have a heart attack
i love it i love it and it's also like iconic as his damn it's just like amazing across the board
i agree it's like it really goes down in history as like a cornerstone moment of pop culture it's
also very katie perry like katie perry could do that i would love it from her i would hate it and
i would love it so much and i could see katie up there right yeah like she could i don't even know what song
i don't even want to think about what she could do well luke is well yeah like you know somebody
died in a fire and she's singing firework like um luke will not be doing that so because that's
my king right there because that's our king right there yeah um so congrats morgan wallen um you
know that's cool like please more of this more of this in a
very safe way please learn from all the things that happened before you learn from fire festival
learn from astroworld like take security measures like do all the things don't cut corners yeah for
a pretty bit well then that's just exciting because there's another country festival and
morgan wallen's the headliner so right that's cool have fun get some sanding your boots oh i don't love the name i wanted to say that do you think it should have been morgfest
no i feel like okay he's gonna name it after one of his songs he has so many songs that are like
country to a t let's see like i don't know sand in my boots it doesn't sound like a festival it's
on the beach yeah no that's cute we're like
the last night festival that's kind of cute it's fine the dangerous festival well no hopefully
hopefully it's not hopefully not hmm hometown festival that's cute but it would have to be
in his hometown well it's someone's hometown yeah Yeah, I like Morgfest, but nobody asked me.
I like Wallyfest.
Wally.
Yeah, I think Wallyfest is best.
You know what's funny about the movie Wally?
I don't know what's funny about the movie Wally.
I've never seen it.
It's that like, it's so forgotten.
It's forgettable, yeah.
I was watching a compilation of best animated movies
to win the Oscars for like the last 20 years.
And WALL-E won.
And there were a lot of forgettable ones in there.
But I just felt like people thought WALL-E was a cultural shift.
And now looking back, it's like, what did WALL-E change?
I don't think WALL-E was a cultural shift.
I think WALL-E was a cultural shift, you know?
Iyana?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm just saying, I don't think WALL-E did as much as he thinks he did.
Yeah.
And WALL-E, like, let's be completely real. yeah yeah i'm just saying i don't think wally did as much as he thinks he did yeah and wally like
let's be completely real wally was just like kind of an et knockoff right wally et like yeah no he
was like a robot that was the only like survivor of i actually didn't see it but wasn't it a silent
film like because there was nobody there like there was soundtrack and stuff but like there
was no other people and they wonder why why no kids wanted to see it.
Please.
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Our next story, some tell me lies news.
Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies.
Also, I was thinking last night that i don't like love the
name of the show let's talk about that right i don't dislike it because it's it's accurate like
everybody in the show just fucking lies i know but like no actually i'm gonna disagree with you i
think it's a fine name i it's not like strong enough i do wish they utilized it should be called
like sex lives of college girls no like something like just more concrete i do wish they utilized it should be called like sex lives of college girls no like something like
just more concrete i do wish that they utilized like the iconic song tell me lies tell me sweet
little like that's whenever we all hear that word that phrase we think of that song i like when the
title is a noun not a verb she likes when the title is a noun okay so what do you think like
the perfectly named show like desperate housewives noun yeah girls girls game of thrones this is like a a verb it's an action item i agree
um anyways but the tell me lies boss is addressing the dramatic finale and a bit of a spoiler
for season three which is that a cast member is not coming it's not going to be on season three
not because they're not coming back,
but because they're no longer part of the story.
Leo.
Oliver.
Oh,
that's shocking.
Yep.
Although I think it makes sense.
Like this was just like a weird time in Bree's life.
Like,
yeah,
but that would mean that if he is the person on the phone,
he either stays on the phone,
like in a.
Like a metaphysical sense.
Yes. Or he's not the person on the phone like in a physical like a metaphysical sense yes or he's not the person on the phone yeah no I think that the eagle-eyed viewers thought that if Oliver was on the phone
that was like far too obvious like the show was more creative than that right so when asked uh
if he would be back in the future Megan Oppenheimer who's the show right now showrunner said I don't
think so I think Tom was just wanting to do one season that's Oliver's actor name he said I think that we wrapped up his story in a way that really worked
for me I don't know where else we would go after that with him it's true she said I think we could
bring Marianne back maybe there's a lot more story to tell with her but I think we kind of learned
that Oliver is so broken and hollow by the end of the season that I'm ready for Brie to be done
with him yeah and he's not like in love with Brie. He's not gonna chase Brie. This was like a fun little game for him for one semester.
There's nothing more.
Yeah, yeah.
And I'm glad to know that like Brie
is not gonna spend next semester-
Pining.
Not that she would.
She was so-
Mad.
Thoroughly turned off by the whole situation.
But it also poises her to go back to Evan
where it's like, oh, all of a sudden,
like Evan looks like an amazing guy.
Yeah, like stability is
Attractive to her again right
So someone who only wants her
This is I feel like isn't a spoiler honestly
Like if you didn't watch this
Season then I guess it's a spoiler yeah
But I feel like it's not
Yeah tell me last
Wait I also just found something out that I didn't know
Because a lot of people were obsessed with the song
That played at the very end of the season finale, which was a
song from the Killers, but it was like a girl singing it.
Mr. Brightside Cutter.
In a very like, you know, sultry way.
And that actually is Brie singing.
And I can't believe I didn't even notice it, because it literally sounds just like her
talking voice.
Yeah, I listened to it on Spotify.
And then I, it's not something like that I would listen to.
More than once.
But it was really good in the show.
And I love when people like are a part of a show
and they get involved in different departments.
Maybe next season she'll join the theater troupe
with her musical abilities.
Like the acapella group.
Yeah.
They need hobbies, by the way.
None of these people participate in campus culture.
Extracurriculars.
It's so true.
Maybe that's why they're so toxic.
Except for Wrigley.
Not even anymore.
Right.
So true.
They don't
get involved on campus they're not gonna they're not gonna have like good extracurriculars for law
school or anything else that they want to do Brie needs to join the acapella group yeah a little
something a little intramural league you know one night in college I went to like there was a couple
acapella groups within NYU obviously like theater kids are they gonna join a sorority
yeah because we're supposed to like think they're cool right yeah and they're no it's the end of
sophomore it's the middle of sophomore year even a school that has late rushing like Colgate did
we didn't rush till sophomore year which is really late um they would have been rushing right they're
definitely not so they've decided not to and then why they're like this insular group of freaks
what was also a plot hole was that I always assumed Wrigley and Steven lived in a frat house.
Mm-hmm.
Because they're seniors.
Well, the rooms.
They share a big room.
Yeah, the rooms are confusing.
Everybody's room is different.
And like, Evan lives off property, right?
Right.
He has an apartment downtown because he's wealthy.
Yeah.
But Wrigley and Steven like live on campus as seniors in a dorm.
Yeah.
Weird. That was when everything happened with Drew.
I was like, wait, that's the outside of their building.
That's a good point.
Yeah.
I thought they lived in like the same house as Leo.
And she was just like going from upstairs to downstairs.
Right.
Where did Leo live?
I thought Leo lived in the house.
But now in thinking about his room, it must be a dorm room.
I never thought it was a fraternity.
I thought it was a fraternity house because usually juniors and some seniors
live in the frat house.
And they had bathrooms in their rooms,
which is not a dorm thing.
Right.
Yeah, no, it's kind of a plot hole,
like the lack of Greek life.
No, but they are in some sort of fraternity
because they have parties in a house.
Oh, yeah.
And it's always the same house
and Leo, Stephen, Wrigley, and Evan.
And all those boys couldn't be going
if they weren't in the fraternity.
Right.
But like how did Chris,
a freshman boy,
get into that party?
That's a really good point.
So that's,
unless there's just like,
If you know the rules
of like parties
and Greek life in college,
which I like don't really,
then this show has a plot hole.
And the only reason
why I'm harping on it
is because Carolla
did not miss a detail
in anything regarding
like liberal art school
unless there's no greek life right it's so accurate there's unless there's no greek life
and they're just like i don't know partying in the student center well that sounds fun
but then why are they always in the one place like why don't they go to different places
well when they go to those parties is it the same house every time yeah it's always like the same
drinks yeah and like same decorations yeah and who's putting up those decorations if not like members
of the committee yeah totally totally the decor committee of the fraternity beautification
committee are you ready for our fifth and final story which is a little broadway news
broadway what's going on the great white way you ask ask? I don't know. What is? Dirty Dancing is set to become a Broadway musical in 2025.
Is the movie a musical?
No.
It's just like a movie where they dance.
With dancing.
So Lionsgate wants theater goers to have the time of their lives.
So the studio is adapting Dirty Dancing as a Broadway musical.
It will launch in late 2025 with aspirations for Broadway as well as a North American run.
Do you remember that reality show about...
Tyler Cameron?
Yeah, about like reality stars like and dancing.
Dirty Dancing with the Reality Stars.
Yeah, right.
Dirty Dancing with the Stars.
I just feel like they really didn't need to do that.
Like I almost wish that they didn't.
I wish you didn't remind me because I would have forgotten.
It was the first thing that came to mind.
Like truly.
That's so crazy. I know. My first thing that came to mind like truly so crazy I know my first thing that came to mind is like this is really exciting for
someone who's going to get this role yeah dirty dancing for me is a little bit before my time so
I don't have like the respect and obsession that I know a lot of people like three years older than
me do I've seen it like I didn't love it and I honestly don't think that guy's hot like sorry
Patrick yeah so like for me this does nothing but I think for people like it does a lot I've seen it. Like, I didn't love it. And I honestly don't think that guy's hot. Like, sorry, Patrick.
Yeah.
So like for me, this does nothing.
But I think for people, like it does a lot.
Like, do you care about dirty dancing?
Like we also didn't grow up in a dirty dancing house.
I feel like you either did or you didn't.
Yeah.
And honestly, it is like a few years before our time.
Right.
And like they were at a camp.
They were in the Catskills, which is just what we associate with camp. And it was summer.
But I don't know that they were at a camp. Are in the Catskills which is just what we associate with camp and it was summer but I don't know that they were at a camp to be Jewish the Catskills are very Jewish like only the only people who spend the summer in the Catskills like are Jews the 1987 1987 film starred
Jennifer Grey as Frances baby houseman it's getting and Jennifer Grey is Jewish a young
woman who falls in love with a dance instructor, Johnny Castle, at a resort.
Well, he was just a dance instructor.
Like, he doesn't necessarily need to be Jewish because he was, like, traveling there for the summer.
Right.
It was at a resort in New York's Catskills during summer 1963.
I'm sorry.
Like, it's literally Maisel.
If you guys ever watch, like, Maisel, the Catskills used to be, like, a Hamptons type of place for Jewish people.
So, maybe I'll give it another chance.
Like, I don't know.
It's so famous and it's so quotable.
I mean, you are going to catch me saying nobody puts baby in a corner even though i have like literally
no idea what they're talking about right but she is baby right which is also weird i agree like
that's your name question but her name is francis and jennifer like i don't get it and baby yeah
so who's doing the music i don don't know. For this musical.
I don't know, but the woman who wrote the screenplay will direct the re-envisioned production.
Is it Broadway or off-Broadway?
It's meant to be on Broadway.
All right.
I mean, I feel like these days, Broadway,
it's like really only revivals and re-dos and mean girls,
like School of Rock, Matilda like it's just like
shit that already exists being made into musical form and i'm not upset because they're doing that
with the greatest showman but like what happened to original musicals i think that's that's why
nicole scherzinger's is getting so much i do think when there is a really good original musical it
like takes off massive like book of mormon hamilton and wicked so they come around once in a while because
before that it was like lion king on broadway like it's cinderella the usual suspects yeah
evan hansen yeah shift yeah yeah yeah cultural shift so that was my show you saw a dime a dozen
oh i feel like i should be able to answer this. I know I saw Dear Evan Hansen in like 2018.
Did I see anything after that?
Probably not.
Maybe not.
I actually recently saw In Juliet where Charli D'Amelio was starring in.
Yeah.
Yeah, it was good.
Cool.
Yeah.
I'm kind of a patron of the arts.
You are.
Yeah.
Are you ready for Queenie and Weenie?
Well, for the first time maybe ever in my life,
now I'm having deja vu, maybe I did say this last week,
I have a Queenie and I don't have a Weenie.
No, you didn't say that last week, I don't think.
Maybe you did.
Maybe I did.
Okay, my Queenie.
Well, I wanted to make my Queenie tell me lies in general
because it was such a fun,
I feel like we haven't all watched the season finale
of something since Game of Thrones.
It was really fun to watch something that everyone was talking about, a scripted show nonetheless, but it was such a fun, like, I feel like we haven't all watched the season finale of something since Game of Thrones. Like, it was really fun to watch something
that everyone was talking about,
a scripted show nonetheless,
but it was a little general.
So I went a little bit more specific
and I went with Diana.
I love the fictional Diana.
Fictional Diana,
like from the show.
It was nice to see like one person
making good decisions
and like caring about their fucking future
in the show.
Like,
respect,
queen,
and she just cruised out of there
in the Bentley,
like obsessed.
She is the queenie
of the week my queenie of the week where the tell me relies showrunners because the way that they
have translated this book to show is actually harder than anything than just like writing a
separate show it's so amazing it's not only like fun to watch something that everyone's watching
but like that it's so quality i feel like for so long we're like maybe it's just not possible to
make good maybe we've seen it all and you can't pull one over on us
and we're sick of everything.
But this is so quality.
It's so good.
And they've just done an amazing job with it.
And for that, they are my queenies.
Yeah, I am in agreement.
Like it's really just been so fun.
And like I'm gonna miss it.
I'm gonna miss it.
Yeah.
Now your weenie of the week.
I was between two,
a rock and a hard place.
So me,
like you have two weenies.
But my weenie of the week,
and it's crazy
because it was probably
in another universe
could have been queenie,
but it just didn't achieve that.
And because it wasn't queenie like.
Victoria's Secret.
Because it wasn't queenie like,
it was weenie like,
and that was the
Victoria's Secret fashion show.
And I will say like
to the marketers
and the ideators,
the girls are beautiful
and you know, they are who and what they are. But the marketers and the ideators the girls are beautiful and you
know they are who and what they are but the fact that the show stood for absolutely nothing and it
was kind of a hot mess weenie when I was ideating for weenie and queenie Victoria's Secret did
cross my desk as weenie um I like I don't know I feel this odd attachment to it like from my
childhood like I couldn't make it you can't turn on it no I mean I have like when i gave my people were like i'm so confused to claudia and jackie like victoria's
secret passion you're like i don't know i don't know either i can't say that i liked it um i can't
i didn't love it i didn't hate it and that's the problem that's wherein lies the weenie dumb
therein lies the issue friends don't try to trick you jack's describing three words
how you're feeling for taylor swift tonight who's your weenie i told you i didn't have one oh and
you sat with that yeah and i said like you had two and i had none is it opposite day well you
know who i always want to make my weenie and i feel like this week i i really can who sin war
yeah but again i am against it because it because then it just like makes queenie weenie then every
week katie perry is not the same as yaya sinwar like it's not right of course but like him throwing
that stick at the end i'm obsessed absolutely that actually is a definition of weenie behavior
like you're literally like you don't even have a hand like stop you can't give it up yeah okay
maybe maybe my weenie is the stick I like that how am I feeling for Taylor yeah
honestly overwhelmed it's a lot by the way like anxious yeah that's so fair nervous yeah no these
are all fair feelings we are going on like a quest this evening like it's a road trip a big night
ahead of us I know that I'm gonna have fun but
until I'm in that in the seat and like it's all happening around me like it's just a lot no and
I want to tell you because Brian had said this to me um and he when he first started going to
our stores he was very much like like familiar but a little bit of an outsider and he said the
first thing he thought and I think you're gonna have this experience too was like he was actually
in pain like his ears like the screaming i actually think
we should pick up some earplugs when i picked up at the airport yesterday there was a jar of ear
plugs i should have picked them up i didn't even think about it like from cvs like i don't think
it would hurt for you to have honestly like it is jarring like the screams and this is the first one
back in a while like and how are our seats like they're good are they great we bought them so
long i don't even know where we are actually i'm not in possession of the seats our third our third margo is i i know i know that
they're good but i remember good but are they great i don't know i remember when we were buying
we were like oh my god they kept disappearing like we couldn't like so i think they're good
like i think they're good objectively but like you know are you gonna see the sweat on her forehead no forehead i don't need to see the sweat but i just i want to see it yeah and you're going with two
people who have been many times and we took our expertise like and we applied that knowledge
while we were buying it was practical application of policy yes okay well yeah i'm excited to give
you guys my review on monday we will have much to discuss on Monday
and Turdy will still be here
on Monday
probably
so we'll be together
in studio
video two
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