The Toast - Long Suffering Propriety: Friday, January 17th, 2025

Episode Date: January 17, 2025

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Good morning, millennials. Welcome back to the toast and happy fucking Friday. Like my God, thank you Jesus and all the Lords of all people for bringing us to this moment. It's very exciting for a number of reasons. Second full week of the new year in the books. And I actually, I read a statistic that most new year's resolutions are broken

on the second Friday of January. Like, and don't you feel that way that like that resolution energy has just gone out the window? Like you've made it till today. I don't relate to that because my relationship with resolutions is like, I don't do them. And on the one or two years I have actually done them, it was such an important resolution, like the vaping,

or when I decided to change my whole life philosophy, saying yes to life, like those are the two resolutions I've ever even tried. I've never been a person on January 1st who like goes to the gym. So I don't participate in resolution culture. To be honest, I'm very much participate in resolution culture.

And I was feeling like the lag this week and I was feeling really Unmotivated and if I hadn't read that statistic I could see myself like giving up because by the way what's worse than being another statistic Right. It's the weekend. So I'm not like up on my goals on the weekend I could see myself like giving up by Monday, but now that I read the statistic I do not want to be just a statistic. So I'm gonna carry on. I have my water jug. We are drinking less and less before the show every day, which is good because I can't keep running to pee. So I just have to up my water intake in the afternoon.

It is so important that I, at the top of this show, issue two enormous corrections from yesterday's episode. One of them is yours. Okay. Lay Meester was not in parenthood. Okay. In my defense, Minka Kelly is in parenthood. And in my defense,

have the two of them ever been seen in the same place? Same trail, different park. Like literally. They're the same person they look alike. They have similar career trajectories. Of course I correct, I stand corrected, but my heart was in the right place. And mine was also in the right place.

And I see how I made this error, but when I was like giving my actual diatribe, that's so me by the way, whenever I have to initiate a correction, it's never like an offhand remark. It's something I spoke about for 15 minutes. Yeah, you were very passionate about. The story about the Severance TV show

that we did yesterday about like their big marketing campaign. I was talking about my experience with the show. Spoiler alert. I've actually never seen severance. What I thought was severance was actually a show called industry. And I could see how you could be the look up the posters. They're the same fucking show. They both take place like in the workplace. And I apologize. I've actually never seen severance. Now I kind of want to, it sounds like something I might be interested in.

I had watched industry on HBO Max. I apologize, that whole thing statement, I made everybody just undo, control Z. I heard Severance is a great show. Yeah, so maybe we'll give Severance a shot. Maybe. Show called Severance. Show called Severance.

Streaming on Apple TV. I have a very complicated relationship with Apple TV subscription. Like I refuse, I let a lot of my subscriptions stay dormant. Like I'm never gonna cancel Netflix, Hulu, Max. Like even if I'm not watching them so frequently, like that's baked into my monthly expenses.

But there are certain ones, like if I'm not using it, like with Ted Lasso, I would sign up for Apple TV. The second I was done with Ted Lasso, we're canceling Apple TV. Same goes for Peacock. I'm not like it, like with Ted Lasso, I would sign up for Apple TV. The second I was done with Ted Lasso, we're canceling Apple TV. Same goes for Peacock. I'm not like attached to Peacock.

I will sign up to watch something and then I will cancel. Same with Paramount Plus. Some of them haven't really like adapted to my monthly expenses. Most of them, I don't really go through the subscriptions and change them. What I have is what I have, but I feel you about Apple TV.

They don't have enough content to justify paying a separate price when I already have. You're telling me my Apple TV doesn't come with Apple TV. Yeah, that part's really disgusting. So crazy. So it's kind of a dumb principle that I don't pay for it. Because that makes no sense. I bought your device when I could,

bought a fire stick or or Roku or something. And you're gonna make me pay to watch like one show that you have, you have one show. To be clear, like a lot of the networks that have streaming platforms, like also have products like Firestick. Firestick doesn't come with Prime, but if you ordered it on Prime,

like you probably have Prime, you know? The thing about Prime though, is we don't know what we're paying for. Like I have Prime, I assume, how much is it? I don't know. I get to watch Prime TV, Molly May, I know I have that. I don't see a bill for Prime. I signed up for Amazon Prime when I was in high school.

I don't think I ever signed up for Prime. No Jackie, you had to have. No, Prime signed me up. Because it used to be like, when we were all just using Amazon to like order stuff in high school, it used to be that like you could get it or you could get it in two days with Amazon Prime. And if you were ordering enough,

like it really justified, it wasn't a crazy price. And I've never- What's the price? I don't wanna know, cause it's such, to me, like there are 30,000 things I would cancel before I would ever cancel my Amazon Prime. I rely on it to live. I agree.

And also when I, I'm a Prime member apparently, does that cover my video, my Prime video? Actually, no. I know that Prime Video has recently done its thing because I have Prime Video, I guess, but now the Prime Video that I have has ads. So like they've obviously up to, there's like a tier. And I actually don't use Prime Video that much.

So I'm not gonna pay for it. But when I was watching- Stop with the tiers. Stop making me make hard choices. Yeah, and there are certain streaming services that have like tiers, like even the highest tier still has ads. Like girl.

They're wild. That's crazy. They ads. Like girl. That's crazy. They're wild and out. That's crazy. Yeah, it's a mess. It's a mess. And I actually, not a resolution, but at the beginning of the year, because I pay my taxes at the end of the year.

So in December of last year, I paid my taxes. And of course, then I always want to start out after that, like being a little bit more fiscally responsible. So one of my goals was to get all my subscriptions in order. Like I just know, sometimes I see a charge for like a dollar for like a VPN I used once and that was like a year ago. So that's $12. Like, so I really want to get my subscriptions in order.

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The book that I chose is inaccessible, unavailable. We don't like that, not working. So I've chosen a new book and I just wanna announce it here. I'm gonna post a little podcast clip to the Redheads. I'll announce it on Instagram, but I just wanna get it out there. We will be reading The Wedding People by Alison.

Oh my God, I've been hearing all about that book. It's on my list. We're reading it for the Redheads. I'm so surprised to see you choose something so trendy. It's everywhere. So I've seen it a couple different places. I was really leaning on AI to help me pick a book because I was like giving them like what we like or it's,

and this was one of the choices I almost picked, but it felt really trendy, kind of like a rom-com. I'm like, I'm not in that mood. They gave me this thriller that I wound up picking that's only available in the UK. So if Molly May wants to join the Redheads, like she could have. So then I went back to the drawing board

and this book kept coming up and it was a read with Jenna pick and she always picks really good books. A lot of our picks have converged in the past and I'm always really happy with those books. So I think it's a safe choice. And at this point, I want something that's massively available that people could get on Kindle

at their library. I hate to tell you how to do your job but I do like when the Redheads choose something like on trend. Now trendy books are always bad. Let's be real. I hate to tell you how to do your job, but I do like when the redheads choose something like on trend. Now trendy books are always bad. Let's be real, like anytime you hear about it all over Goodreads, like it's a piece of shit and it's just never good.

Having said that, like for, this is a business, the redheads, and it's good for you guys to be on trend. The thing is, we go through, I go through waves of that feeling where it's like, let's read the book that everyone's talking about. But then it sometimes doesn't live up to the hype. We don't have like the best conversations. A lot of people have already read it and discussed it.

And it's like, we're just circling the drain. So then we're like, let's read a book that everybody's reading for the first time. But I also don't wanna pick something from 10 years ago, because maybe people did read it 10 years ago, and then they don't wanna listen to the episode. Now, it's really a dance. And then the craziest part is that we haven't read the book.

So we don't know if it is a good book. If I was doing recommendations about books, I already read, easy as pie. Yeah, that's so true. Well, I wish you the best. I really do. It was inevitable that something like this would happen. We will be reading the wedding people

and I'm very excited. I'm excited too. I meant to tell you, like something I've been keeping up with is like the Today Show guest co-hosts. And some people have come and gone, and I feel like there was like no waves made. Let me tell you, all over social media,

Hikki Palmer was yesterday and she just like crushed it. There was like so many funny moments, sweet moments, earnest moments. And she has a new movie coming out that like, seriously, I've only seen promoted on TikTok. I don't know why this movie is getting no, like I don't know where the marketing budget, it's starring her and SZA. And Maude Apatow's in it.

Like it's like this trio, like girls night type of, it looks so funny. I'm like, I don't know where I can see this movie. For some reason, the rollout is not giving me faith that it's gonna be like mass distributed. And of course I don't know what it's called, but so she's doing a lot of press and people fucking loved her.

Like I think if she wants the job, there has been such positive feedback from Kiki and Jenna that I actually think the job is hers to turn down. I think she would be fantastic. I wonder if she wants that job because it does mean you kind of have to hang up some of your other hats. And she's someone who always has like multiple projects

because she is a multifaceted entertainer. So just to be sat there five days a week, very routine, I don't know if it's your job. That's why the job tends to go to women who are a little bit older in the industry, because they've done that, you know? They've spent their 20s and 30s doing the most and trying every opportunity.

And then it's nice to have some stability and just go to work every morning at the same place. It's not for everyone. I agree, you can't have a thriving acting, comedy. She's really also an influencer, a podcast. You can't do all of that while also being like a daytime daily host. But I'm happy to see her getting like the feedback

and the respect that she deserves. I'm just not surprised. Yeah, things that don't surprise me. You know what, but has kind of confounded me. Me and Ben had like this 30 minute conversation last night that we actually ended up in a fight and cause like I thought he was giving such bad answers. I have been singing Guilty Us In by Taylor Swift.

It's like been stuck in my head and I keep getting stuck on this lyric that like I actually it could be in Chinese like I do not understand it okay? You can probably help me. I said to Ben I'm like what do you think this means? It had been bothering me all day and he gave like such a wrong answer. I'm like, okay, nevermind. Why am I talking? Do you think he would give a right answer? Sometimes he's very profound and I'm like,

okay, you know what? Nevermind, like I asked the wrong person. I should have asked Jackie. So tell me what you think this lyric means. Okay. If long suffering propriety is what they want from me, they don't know how you've haunted me so stunningly. What the fuck does that mean?

First of all, I had to Google what propriety means. I don't know what propriety means, but I'm gonna use context please. What it means is like forcing someone to conform. Like acting proper, propriety. Okay, if long suffering propriety is what they want from me. Say the next step. They don't know how you've haunted me so stunningly.

They don't know how you've haunted me so stunningly. Well, before you gave the definition of propriety, I was going off of like suffering, and it's like they want me to suffer for a long time. I think propriety is negative. Like saying like- Well, yeah, okay, they've wanted me to suffer propriety for a long time, and they don't know that you've haunted me so stunningly.

Haunting is a negative thing. Like they don't know that I've been suffering propriety. But then the next lyric, I choose you and me religiously. He's making you suffer. Why do you choose him? I mean, that's a classic question. I literally ask any girl in a relationship or that's pining after a person that doesn't want her.

And yeah, the choosing you and me religiously is what's making her suffer because it's long suffering propriety and he's haunting her cause you don't want her. Who's it about? Metahilly. Yeah, this makes sense. Does it?

Cause Ben was getting stuck on the word stunningly like saying that it was about like beauty. I'm like, no. Oh goodness. Yeah, no, I'm like, no, you're wrong. Like you are wrong. Yeah, no, it's just an adjective. Right, I'm like, but the stunning,

I said, Ben, the stunning doesn't refer to a person, it refers to the haunting. Like it's a possessive adjective. Yeah, and he was like, no. And then we just started fighting. Oh my, well, you shouldn't have even asked him that cause like he couldn't be helpful in something, but like with Taylor, you kind of have to know the lure

a little bit and the lore of the lure. And sometimes that I feel like this happened a lot in TTPD, like she lyricized like a little too close to the sun. I feel like the older she gets, the less of her lyrics, like I actually understand. She's like a little too smart. I find myself having to Google words. Yeah.

I also would need like the context clues of the rest of the- The song. Song. Yeah. But it does sound like people want her to suffer and little do you know I've been suffering by pining over this person who has haunted me,

who I would choose every day religiously who wouldn't choose me. And that is suffering. I'm so glad I asked you. I feel like I kind of get it. But I also might really be analyzing them too much on the surface. I have a tendency to do that.

I'm not very- Deep? What's the word? No, no, I am deep, but I just sometimes, I just am too on the surface in my analyzation. I don't know how else to describe it. So maybe there's something. So maybe there's more that I'm missing.

Update on our theme song competition. It is still in full swing. And as of this morning, you know, the Supreme Court has decided to uphold the TikTok ban. So Sunday is still the deadline for the theme song competition. Jackie and I are looking all across the nation for a new theme song.

Well, not a new, our first theme song for this podcast right here. You could submit on Instagram reels or on TikTok using the hashtag toast theme song. Try to stand out, you know, play an instrument, do what you want. And we're looking for like a 30 to 60 second jingle, not too long, not too short.

Of course the one and only social media competition we've ever run that's taking place on TikTok ends on the day that TikTok will be banned. So if we want to sit down and watch all the TikToks on Sunday and make a decision, like we actually- We're gonna have to save and like screenshot the profiles of people. I didn't even think about that.

Like how we're gonna- I do think like the people who have really put them their whole selves into this- Put it on both. Our real contenders are on both, but just keep that in mind. That is so crazy. We've never done anything like this.

Yeah. And of course it's, we chose the day. You know what, we're gonna have to do Saturday night. Like- Saturday night. Yeah, Saturday night school. But the competition is not over. If you have not submitted yet, we really encourage you to do Saturday night. Saturday night school. Yeah, Saturday night school, but the competition is not over if you have not submitted yet. We really encourage you to.

This has been so much fun. Oh, also the winner wins $5,000. That's like a huge part. And a contract with Toast Studios. So that's just huge. That's kind of worth more than the $5,000. And we're really excited. So hashtag Toast theme song.

I've been loving watching everybody's competition, some mish. And yeah, this has kind of been like one of the best weeks in my life because of it. Yeah, it's been really fun. And I'm mostly excited to have a theme song. Me too. Because some of the ones that I've listened to

have given me chills, which is also like, if you don't give me chills, like whether it could have been the best song, but it didn't give me chills. So it's not gonna win. And just to have that experience every day, I think will be really powerful. Yeah, and I'm like struggling because the one that I think is best,

um, how there has been another one that I was singing in my head all day yesterday, which is kind of like the benchmark of a good theme song. So I'm feeling really toward, but I'm also still open. If somebody, I just want, I can't stress it up that the competition is still open. Like I think also that we'll pick our favorites two or three and then maybe we'll like ask friends and family to vote. And that won't be like the decision, but that might help us see what the people gravitate towards.

It's a very intricate decision and voting process. It's so complex. A lot of people don't understand how hard we work personally on this. It's kind of like American Idol. Like everybody has, because there are certain videos on TikTok that have gone viral.

One of them is like a quarter of a million views, but like, and that's great. That doesn't equal winner. Oh, no, it just means that we will see it for sure. Even though we will see all of them because we'll just scroll till the end of the hashtag. Like that's good too. That's true.

That is very true. So there's a couple of buckets that go into the final vote, which is like, Claudia and I are friends and family, like social media reception. It's just, it's a very Claudia and I are friends and family, like social media reception. It's a very layered and I would say- Complex equation. Yeah.

Resulting in the best result, wouldn't you say? I would hope that the equation would result in the best result, but you know, time will tell. Okay, and what do you think about this? If we're between two options, if we had like an intro song and an outro song. Like that's when the podcast gets like crazy. More songs, like just more songs.

I mean, I think like if none of them work out, we could always do, what if he's written my mule on my upper thigh mule? That's always an option. Of course. That's guilty as sin I just learned. Of course we could also do. So that's again. And I'll never stop singing my pargy song.

Like we have options of course. If we've like took the time we could have done this ourselves. Yeah but who wants to do that when you could host a competition. We're busy women. We are busy women. I'm such the Simon though, wouldn't she say? Oh, actually no. I think you're busy women. We are busy women. I'm such the Simon though, wouldn't she say?

Oh, actually, no. I think you're so Paula, like you think everything is so good, like I'll send it to you and you'd be like, oh my God, I love it. I'm like, really? Like, you are the second- You might be Randy.

Who was more lenient, Randy or Paula? Like Paula had empathy that neither of the other two had, but Randy had a low bar for talent. Like. Yeah. I don't even know how, how did those three become so iconic when I can't like even distinguish the personalities

of Randy and Paula? I think Randy was just like more laid back in his critique. And I think Paula like had a lot of energy, like was definitely the one like the Katy Perry who was just like making best friends with everyone. And like was there to serve looks and like be glamorous Paula Abdul.

Yeah. So crazy. So crazy. That was such an interesting, cause now it's like they look for the biggest and baddest star to put in one of those chairs. But like those were three unknown. Now of course, Paula Abdul isn't unknown,

but for the audience that was watching, I had no idea who Paula Abdul was. No, me neither. So it was for young people, and we knew this was an older, successful pop star, and she was known for her dancing, but I had never heard a Paula Abdul song in my life. So the fact that they became so known

is actually so crazy. Yeah. And then they tried with X Factor. They tried to make like L.A. Reid, the Randy Jackson. He did a good job, but X Factor wasn't appreciated in its own time. X Factor. They tried to make like LA Reid, the Randy Jackson. He did a good job, but X Factor wasn't appreciated in its own time. X Factor US.

Yeah. Yeah. That's- What can you do? Where were you when you first heard Carly, Rosan and Claire? Oh, I was sad is where I was. Exactly.

Well, I guess we should get into the stories to bid you farewell to the week. We have Queenie and Weenie this week. Do you have yours? I do, I wrote them down. I actually had a hard time. I think it was because this week felt so long that I think on Monday I wrote down somebody

like that I just wanted to put into contention for my Queenie and now it just feels so irrelevant. It just feels like last week. No, I know. Cause it's been so long. Exactly. Yeah. Also the good news is that next week is a short.

Oh yeah. Let's thank you so much for reminding. We're embarking on a three day weekend. You guys know we respect the hell out of federal holidays and I would never disrespect my King Martin Luther. And that's on Monday. So MLK day. Literal King.

Literal King. MLK day, there is no toast. That's a Monday. So just prepare yourselves. I think that's a federal holiday that's widely respected. Like some, like, like certain holidays have become like, everybody goes to work on Columbus day and it's people like, oh, really you have off for armor day?

Yeah, I do. So not all of them are as respected, but I feel like everybody's off on Monday. And I do feel like after two long, hard full weeks, like we need a day off as a society, not just us. Like it was a lot coming back into the year. And with like the TikTok ban, like we all need time to sort of like reset.

Yes. And as you said, like Monday is just a big day for the world. Also like with the hostage deal, like it's just a big day. So we'll be off. I just wanted to say one thing, like not to like bring it up after, like you said hostage deal, so it sounds so vain, but a lot of-

I was just, when we were adding to our Monday list, I realized if the deal goes as planned, the first hostages are said to be released on Monday. Okay, so I'm actually not gonna say what I was gonna, now I feel really even more sick. Well, okay, let me say just something else, and then you could say it. Yeah.

Don't forget, new Redheads book is The Wedding People. It's gonna be an amazing episode even more so. Well, okay, let me say like just something else and then you could say it. Yeah. Don't forget new redheads book is the wedding people. It's going to be an amazing episode with fun with friends and family. So I feel like I actually haven't given my official thoughts on the TikTok ban. Like I've been updating everybody on it. And like, how does Turdi feel? And I obviously love TikTok.

I'm kind of the TikTok correspondent for my generation. I feel like your feelings are complicated and you've been parsing through them. My feelings are complicated. Let me tell you why. Am I resentful that I never reached a million followers and I'm definitely underappreciated as fucking hell on that app.

Yes, so do they deserve to go down for that? Absolutely. 100%. But I've gotten to such a good place in my, I pop off on TikTok at least once a day. I'm in such a good place, my engagement's crushing it. I'm getting so many brand deals. I'm gonna miss that.

I'm gonna miss the attention. But I actually know that I will be better off because of it. Like, I have a very complicated relationship with the app. Like, I love it so much, I rot for hours, and I know that it's bad for me. And it's like, I have to enter this phase of my life where I need to be present.

And so I know they're not doing this for me, but in its own way, it feels like it's being done for me. Like, I'm actually looking forward to the person I become without this kind of addiction in my life. It's kind of like the vape. Like I loved it, but I hate it. I agree. I do think it's coming back though.

So like this will be short-lived. And on the plus side, like all the money that the brands were spending on you on TikTok that like you would be missing that, like those brands will spend that money elsewhere, whether it's on Instagram, on the podcast. Although, can you explain something to me? It's live events, trips to the Cape.

Me and Ben were like talking about like China yesterday, obviously what else did two people talk about? And he was asking like, why? Okay, so like China stealing our data and spying on us for sure. Like, why is that bad? And I was like, oh, well, I love to cite the 60 minutes segment I once watched.

I like actually really colored a lot of my opinions on TikTok and like how they really do use it as like a weapon. They use TikTok, this amazing algorithm in China to like further the education of minors and teach kids to, you know, valuable lessons in math and STEM. And then they use that same sort of algorithm

to target Americans. So I keep them fat, fat lazy and mentally ill. Like, yeah. And they use it like to, they convince people like on TikTok that you have mental illnesses that you don't have. Like it's actually the 60 minute segment. If you just Google it, it was actually really powerful.

Like, cause at first I was like, who gives a fuck? So I was telling Ben that he's like, no, no, no, that I know. But like the actual data, like, okay, so they have our data. Now what? Like what, what's bad? So I think for a regular person who's not remarkable, it's like not a huge deal to have your data. But then there are people, like they get into your phone,

they get into your wifi network. There are people whose parents work in government. There, it's ways to get amongst other threats, but it's ways to get proprietary information that maybe just the 13 year old dancing in their room doesn't know, but like their dad has, or mom has government secrets. Or mom.

Okay, then also, then explain this to me, cause everybody, like, and you just said, like you think it's coming back for sure, even though the Supreme Court has upheld like the legality of banning it. They say like, no, no, no, the law, there's nothing stopping the law from stopping this ban. Like it's legit.

They just said that this morning. So obviously today's last like working day of Biden's presidency. So now it's up to Trump. But like Trump's thing is he hates China. Like, so why, why would he? Why would we think it's coming back? I think because whatever like makes it so nefarious

and there are a couple different things. I think those will get solved. Whether it's a sale, whether it's parameters in place. I think- Yeah, but the thing I said earlier in the week is true about like- That it can't be inextricable. It can't be unlinked from the Byte company,

which is based in China, like their data centers. Even if you buy the company, like in order for the company to still exist separately, like it has to be linked. I feel like maybe it doesn't. I love that. Maybe there's a workaround. I love that.

Maybe there's a solve. And if anything, it'll take- I think the issues will get solved a bit, is what. Not it's just gonna like, oh, we'll keep doing this because this has been a problem for a very long time. And then Ben also had an interesting point. He was like, you know what? And Ben doesn't like come at this with any sort of agenda.

He's just like a curious person, which I like. It was like, but you know what? Like if anybody started an app eight years ago and was able to sell it today, it's worth $400 billion. That's like the market value. The fact that they don't wanna sell it, like that gives them various vibes. Cause the whole point of starting like a tech company

is to like, you know, sell it and make money. And you've successfully built the biggest one in the shortest amount of time. And now we're like, the government is begging you to sell it, begging, and you won't, why? Because money maybe wasn't your goal, spying on 13 year olds whose dads work in government or moms.

Well, and that's just like one case of how they could spy, but just like they had this spying. No, of course, of course. Like they like to see what America, like then they have like full visibility. I get it, I get it. Like we are- Into American life.

We are so interesting. Like if I was living in China and I worked for intelligence, I would want to know what was going on here too. Like we are the most fabulous people. We are so complex and we are of course not perfect, but like if I get to buy on any country, like of course I'd want to be this one. We are sick.

We're gorgeous. God bless America. Like I get it. I get the intrigue, their obsession. Like I get it. Yeah, it's a real intrigue. Think about all the people who live here. First of all, us, like who's more interesting than us.

I know, they totally want in our face. I'm just like, they're so. If I was a Chinese spy, I would say I want them first. Yeah, I'd say these girls are really high threat and we need to be listening to everything. We are high threat, we're extremely influential. Yeah. Yeah. Well, they can hear your end of the call.

So true. How do you feel actually? And I feel like you haven't been annoying about this at all. As somebody who has resisted TikTok for these reasons, there have been like from day one, like weird concerns about China at first, it was like a conspiracy theory. Now it's like at the Supreme court. And you have sort of stuck to your guns

and we all made fun of you and it has made your life difficult and honestly difficult for the people around you to download and sending and you not only like, do you feel vindicated? You haven't been like annoying about it at all. No, I don't feel like I was right or anything. Cause it's not like this was a working theory that I had. Like I was reading the same stuff as you guys.

I just like took it more seriously. And then there were also like aside from like the spying, like it definitely the mental health, I just realized like how much time I would be spending on my phone if I had TikTok. And not that I don't spend a lot of time on my phone, but it's not a number I wanna add to. And I'm just really hopeful.

Like I hope that people come to Reels cause then Reels will get even better. And the brand, more brands on Instagram, whenever they're like, do you have TikTok? I'm like, no, like, okay. Cha-ching down the toilet. It's so true. But by the way, I think what you said is super,

like we can all like talk about China. Like what the fuck do we know so true, but by the way, I think what you said is super, we can all talk about China, what the fuck do we know? I actually think the mental health implications for an app that is so targeted towards young people, that's the benefit of it getting banned. Obviously the national security, which is a little high level for me, I'm not gonna pretend to understand it,

but if I had a teenager right now, I would be thrilled. Right. That's a bonus. I think it will be a net good thing. And all social media is like ripe with issues, but at least it feels like with most of the big platforms here, like they at least pretend to care. They're also like embedded so much in culture that like,

I don't think of Instagram as addictive. I think of it as like work and I can like, I can put it down. No, but if there was like an issue with Instagram and teens, like Mark Zuckerberg would at least pretend to do something about it and not like, certainly not try and make it worse and celebrate it, but he might put in something

and there might be laws in place. Like I know there's laws in Florida about like teen, like you can't have social media before a certain age. So like, at least there are things you can do. And I just feel like TikTok has just gotten like, so out of control, but that's also, you know. It's like too big to monitor even. Yeah, but not that I'm so for like monitoring or anything.

That's why these like issues are complicated. But I think the issue is that it is being monitored in a nefarious way. It's not just like, they are tailoring, you know, people with the worst sorts of content to people and promoting that as opposed to it actually just being like free speech, do whatever you want and the cream will rise.

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Our first story is a big story of the day and you know of the last few months. But a new update has emerged from Justin Baldoni's lawsuit because Justin Baldoni is claiming that Ryan Reynolds and Taylor Swift pressured him to accept Blake Lively's It Ends With Us rewrite in a new complaint. So Justin Baldoni has filed a $400 million lawsuit against Blake and her husband and their publicist on Thursday, January 16th, less than a month after Blake filed a complaint alleging sexual harassment

and a retaliatory smear campaign. And so this is a 179 page complaint. There's a lot of discovery and things and you can go read all of that. However, among the claims made in this complaint, he alleges that Taylor Swift and Ryan Reynolds pressured him into accepting one of Blake Lively's rewrites for the film. Christie Hall is credited as a screenwriter

who adapted Colleen Hoover's blockbuster novel. So in the pre-production phase, Lively allegedly asked to take a pass on the film's rooftop scene where her character Lily meets his character Ryle for the first time. Justin was quote reluctant to let her rewrite this key scene per the complaint but agreed to take a look at what she put together. Justin claims her version was quote dramatically different from how it was originally written and after his quote exceedingly mild resistance, Lively quote went silent for

multiple days and later said an alleged text message that his reaction to her rewrite quote didn't feel great for me or to Reynolds and what Baldoni characterizes as quote another mega celebrity friend. A text message included in the filing reveals that quote influential and wealthy celebrity friend is Taylor Swift. Justin claimed that he was quote summoned to an earlier meeting with Ryan at their New York City penthouse where the pop star Taylor arrived and began praising lively script. Baldoine understood the subtext he needed to comply with Blake's direction for the script per the complaint. He felt he didn't need Ryan and her mega celebrity friend to pressure him.

So he texted her that while her changes made the scene quote so much more fun and interesting, he would have felt that way need Ryan and her mega celebrity friend to pressure him, so he texted her that while her changes made the scene, quote, so much more fun and interesting, he would have felt that way without Ryan and Taylor, adding a playful emoji. Blake allegedly responded by comparing herself to the Game of Thrones character, Khaleeson, and that Ryan and Taylor are her two dragons. Like the sheer fact that this, like,

Real Housewives level of drama is in a lawsuit is so embarrassing to me, honestly. And people are just gooped and gagged by this. The screenshots going around make Blake look out to be like such a loser and such a mean girl. And I don't think that's really ever been up for debate. Like the crazy thing to me is like, he filed this 200 page lawsuit, $400 million, and not one of it disputes the original claims that he sexually harassed people on this set. They had to take a break and come up with deal terms. And what, so Blake Lively's a bitch?

What does one have to do with the other? Like his entire lawsuit, yes, this makes her look really bad, which has been like the theme the whole time. She's a mean girl. Her texts are so fucking cringe. Like my dragons, my Khaleesi, like cringe. Okay, but you know what else is cringe?

Sexually harassing your female co-stars. Like I don't see what one has to do with the other. Because it won't change how I feel about this situation, but you just get a glimpse into someone's personality and it's a little painful. She said, if you ever get around to watching Game of Thrones, you'll appreciate that I'm Khaleesi. And like her, I happen to have a few dragons,

for better or worse, but usually for better, because my dragons also protect those I fight for. So really we all benefit from those gorgeous monsters. Stop, no, I actually cringe. Like there's a chill down my spine. Smiling emoji, you will too, I can promise you. And like, great, let's say Justin Baldoni is telling the truth.

Everything in his 179 page lawsuit is completely factual. Okay, Blake Lively and her fancy husband and her fancy friend, Taylor Swift, like wanted to take over the project. Not a crime, definitely like a bad personality trait, but nowhere in there does he dispute any of the things that were alleged about him, you know, making her add more nudity scenes,

being weird about the intimacy coordinator, showing nude images to female co-stars. Like, I really, I don't understand how this has one to do. This is, I think, another strategy in what was originally, oh, and by the way, there is no disputing that he hired people to do astroturfing. Like, so all the things that were in originals, Blake's original complaint, like to me,

have not been disputed at all. If anything, like he's giving us evidence as to why he was mad at her and did that in the first place. She told on him to sag about his inappropriate behavior. And then she, wait, oh my God. It's crazy how your brain like just turns off. Like he's mad at her because, and did all that because, oh yeah, she told on her to sag.

And she was like a pain in the ass on set. So I think here, and it's getting confusing. And I think that's the intended effect, but he is trying to also prove why he hired crisis PR because all of the things that happened that he's not disputing there were, there was beef and there were disagreements and creative disagreements and a million other things.

And so he's showing why he went on the defensive, which then it looked like an offense. Right, but the crazy thing is, is to the public, no one was ever team Blake. Like she never put together any sort of strategy when the movie was coming out. It was all making her look bad. So he he's like, I was on the defensive from what? We never thought anything other than you were the good guy and she was the bad guy. Right. No, but now he's having to prove that there was an offensive that either hadn't

launched yet or was in the midst of it before, like he came forward with his. He sounds like a conspiracy theorist. Like he sounds a little crazy because all I've gotten from everything, his original complaint and now this lawsuit is that Blake was mean and her fancy friends Hugh Jackman and Taylor Strip made me feminist feel bad. And by the way, I can completely see a world in which Blake Lively, who's the most beautiful woman in the world, married to one of the most handsome best friends

of Taylor Swift, she's definitely a bitch. And she's not even an amazing actress, so I could see her coming on being like, I wanna do X, Y, Z. It's like, girl, just do your job. You're not even gonna, I can see all that. None of that literally means anything to me. When there is proof and pretty much confirmation

of like that list of 30 things that he was acting inappropriately on set, harassing people sexually, like why is that equal to being mean? It's not. These are two separate claims. Yeah, I don't think he's saying it's equal to being mean. I think he's just trying to-

No, but he's trying to sway public opinion. Well, it's like, I was accused of sexual harassment. Well, these people were mean to me. Okay. No, but he's like saying Blake showed like what happened before the AstroTurfing campaign. And now he's showing what happened before that led to the thing that led to the thing.

I never wanted to know this much about two people about one movie, like just stop making movies, everyone. Like if it's this hard to just agree on a rooftop scene, like seriously, the book was written for you. Just write what's in the book. It's really not that hard. That's the other thing. Like Taylor Swift definitely read this book like on her own

cause she like, we know she likes to read and like this is a very popular big book, especially for women. And I could see her like really getting like so excited that her friend was playing Lily and like wanting to get involved. And I think it's a really, you know, unique strategy. Cause Justin, I think is motivated a lot

by public opinion. Of course he wants to win, but I think he cares a lot about what people think of him. And including Taylor Swift in your lawsuit, it's kind of a risky move. She's universally beloved. And I think people have made sort of an exception for Blake. They're like, yeah, she's Taylor's best friend.

Like she sucks because everybody's now like off of team Blake. But now it's like, well, Taylor's a part of it. So where do you land? I think it's going to be really interesting to see if that hurts him or helps him. Yeah. Also, I feel like we already forgot that her song was a part of the movie.

And that was like a really big hype for the movie. But for the trailer. So she's not uninvolved for the movie. But for the trailer. So she's not uninvolved in the movie. I forgot about that. Yeah, so he probably had to like cozy up to Taylor cause she's doing this favor, giving the song. And she's like a part of the excitement around the movie. And then also Justin like posted pictures yesterday

of him in the basement at the premiere with his family. Like, let me tell you how I do not care that you were at the basement in the premiere. Like you and the, regardless of what happened, like you and the lead actress don't get along. You don't like each other. She will walk the carpet and then you will walk the carpet and sure you can wait in the basement.

You can wait in your car. I don't give a shit. I don't feel sorry for you that at your big fancy movie premiere, that you were in a basement that like looks totally fine and lovely. I have such a hot take on the basement because, and I know everybody's like, just Claudia, you're not gonna be ever team Justin.

And I'm not, but like, this is somebody who, in my opinion now has been really accused with a lot of proof of sexually harassing female co-stars. None of the female co-stars wanted to be around him. They did not feel comfortable. So much so that at a work event, the premiere, you had to be sequestered like a prisoner in the basement. Like that's what they do with people who are dangerous

or like you are a threat. Like you're not being kept, they're being kept from you. Like everybody was fine to walk together and be together upstairs. You were the outlier because you are a threat and you sexually harass these people. Like I felt like when he released those pictures, I was like, you're literally admitting

that like you had to be kept separate like a violent criminal. Yeah, this didn't do for me. Like I don't feel sorry for you sitting in the basement of a movie theater with all this popcorn and all your friends and family. It's his big night, he worked so hard. Like people are seriously not okay.

Just about Tony's not gonna fuck you if you write a nice tweet about him. Like people are like, it's so upsetting. Like this was his big night, he worked so hard. Like people are seriously not okay. Just about doing, he's not gonna fuck you if you write a nice tweet about him. Like people are like, it's so upsetting. Like this was his big night. He worked so hard. Like girl. It's literally not so upsetting. It's not upsetting at all.

It ain't. Like I'm sorry. It doesn't move the needle. At this point, I feel like people have chosen their sides. Like at first people were really easily swayed. Like, oh, one lawsuit, I'm here. One lawsuit, I'm there. And now like the dust has settled

and people have decided what team they're on. I can safely say I've never really switched from disliking Justin Baldoni. And like, I don't think no amount of pages in a lawsuit is gonna change people's minds now. Yeah, like enough has been done. They've reached that point. So now also I feel bad for the courts and the jury

that will have to sift through all this and relitigate all of this. What state? California, it was California, sorry, yes it was, cause they filmed in California. And it's like as if the people of California haven't been through enough, now they have to sit on a jury going through this

mindless Real Housewives drama. Like the receipts, like literally it's like Monique and her binder, like it's so mind-numbing. Yeah, so they'll duke it out. And I guess we'll wait to see who the courts find. Yeah. Cause you know, this is just us. And also everyone is selectively reading these documents.

It's so true. Like I want to see how Blake Lively sends a text. And now I don't want to see. No, by the way, I've seen enough. Please never give this woman my number. Like she's on Streadfall. She sounds absolutely, me and my dragons like yikes. Like it's just.

I'm Khaleesi. It's butt clenching. Like it's so cringe. Agreed. Are you ready for our next story? I'm desperate to change the subject. I agree. Lady Gaga, Jelly Roll, and Stevie Nicks

will be playing Fire Aid benefit concert for LA wildfire relief. So a big concert is coming together for LA wildfire relief, and the biggest names in music are coming together to raise funds for those affected by the devastating wildfires. Right now, the lineup includes Billie Eilish and Phineas,

Earth, Wind and Fire, Gracie Abrams, Green Day, I want you to remember. The name is a little, Ooh. Is a little too useless. They should have went EWF. They should have changed their name. Yeah.

Gracie Abrams, Green Day, Gwen Stefani, Jelly Roll, Joni Mitchell, Katy Perry, Lady Gaga, Lil Baby, Pink, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Rod Stewart, Sting, Steven Stills, John Mayer, Stevie Nicks, and Tate McCray. For the first time ever, Dave Matthews Band and John Mayer will take the stage together

for a special performance. That's so nice to see all these people. And this, speaking of all the streamers we were talking about, this will be streamed live together for a special performance. That's so nice to see like all these people. Speaking of all the streamers we were talking about, this will be streamed live on all of the streamers. Oh, it will. They're coming together. Apple Music, Apple TV, Max, I Heart Radio,

Paramount Plus, Netflix, Prime Video, Amazon Music, all of them. Yeah, it's nice to see people from like country music getting involved because they all like did a benefit for North Carolina. And there was like no pop people who were offering their time. Like it was like Keith Urban, John Mayer,

I mean not John Mayer, Lou Colms, Eric Church. So like Jelly Roll showing up, representing the community we love to see. This just reminded me of, oh, I wanted to talk about Jelly Roll because I wanted to talk about, actually I have to thank your husband for this.

When me, you and our husbands went on a double date to Yard House, the greatest restaurant in all of America, he was driving and he put on music and he put on the F1 Trillion album, Post Malone's Country. And I had listened to, I actually hadn't listened to the album in full. I knew Luke Holmes, I like selectively chose

the ones that were popular, like the Morgan Wallen collab and the Blake Sheldon collab. Then of course I had to listen to my boy Luke, but I hadn't listened to the album in full and I the Morgan Wallen collab and the Blake Shelton collab. Then of course I had to listen to my boy Luke, but I had to listen to the album in full. And I was just like, it was like a 20 minute drive there and back. So we listened to like most of the album. I was like, damn, this is so good.

And I've been listening to it every single morning. It is so underrated, like by me obviously, but the culture let me rate it under. Like it wasn't shoved in my face. It should have been. Every collab is better than the next. The Luke Holmes one is so good. The Laney Wilson one is so good.

The Ernest one, that ain't the devil I know. It's so good. And honestly, the Jelly Roll one, and I have not like been moved by Jelly Roll's music. I think a lot of people like are immediately drawn to it. He definitely like has like a cult like fandom and it just sort of like passed over me. Let's hear it for the losers.

It's so good. It's made a jelly roll fan out of me. Like this album, I can't believe I like lived, like I lived with it for months and did nothing about it. Like it's so good. It's so funny. Cause I have different favorites than you from the album. Like wrong ones with Tim McGraw.

But then wrong ones keep looking at me. So good. Goes so hard. The Dolly Parton one I really like. Sweet, and then also on the album, Post has a song, just Posty himself. He put himself out there, because I do feel like sometimes he hides behind

these collabs a little bit. What don't belong to me, what don't belong to me, what don't belong to me, love. Also, if you like that Jelly Roll song, there's one other Jelly Roll song in Jelly Roll catalog that I like. I know, we listen to it every time we're in your car. Well, just because I play my like songs

and that was the first one when you were here. Yes, yes. You ain't nothing but a liar. There was also one song I did my like songs and that was the first one when you were here. You ain't nothing but a liar. There was also one song I did not like. I can't remember it. Why focus on the negative? I just want to say I apologize to Malone and the entire Maloners.

That was wrong of me to sit on it. It's actually amazing. It's one of the best country albums this year. Like he should be nominated for Grammy of the year album, country album of the year. I'm down. Like it's really parge. Really.

I'm sorry it took me so long to get here. Inappropriate. Well, you're here. We're happy to have you. That's all that matters. And you're really not that late, like considering. So true. I've been later down to NABBY.

How late? Anyways, this, this concert-a-thon like sounds really nice and some great performers and really beautiful way to come together for the communité. I think you mean the Cue-unité. Curect. So that's all to say on that. And all that to say is brought to you by Quince.

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the world's weirdest breakup announcement out of nowhere when the day before, 12 hours prior, they were posting together. Pizza in London. Pizza in London, which could have been pizza in London last week, but still you don't post something when you've broken up with someone.

Within the same 24 hour cycle as your breakup post. And also you don't post your breakup post less than 24 hours after you've broken up. And also you don't post your breakup post less than 24 hours after you've broken up. And also you don't post your breakup post with a geotag location and you don't tag your ex in it. And you don't use a photo that's like literally not representative of your relationship at all. Oh, and then have like a really weird confusing caption

about God, not that there's anything confusing about God, but like it was definitely like a unique route to take strategically. It was a unique route, but typically like there's time in between when you actually break up. I love what you're doing with the pen. So if you're broke, you look like seriously a teacher. I love it.

No, and I'm like on the board of the break up time. Well, there's a lot to follow here. You break up and then you hope that things are quiet and nobody realizes so that you could process a little bit. You wouldn't post new content with your ex because you guys are heartbroken and you're misleading people. And then you would post your breakup announcement, but there's too much crossover in the windows here.

So it's hard to parse out what happened. However, team Kirkconnell, a couple of things are coming out about how- You said Kirkconnell or Kirkconnell? I feel like I used to say Kirkconnell, but then I remember like every time I would hear her last name pronounced, it was not how I pronounced it. Now I think I say Rachel Kirkconnell. but then I remember like every time I would hear her last name pronounced, it was not how I pronounced it. Yeah, and now I think I say Rachel Kirkconnell.

I think that's how people say it. So I'm just trying something on, okay? I like that she doesn't correct anyone. Yeah, I'm trying something on. Do your worst. I'm probably pronouncing it like the way I normally wouldn't and it's still wrong. Yeah, that's so us, even when we try.

So sources are saying that she was blindsided and humiliated by this breakup post. She thinks it's just as weird as everyone else does. She didn't know he was gonna do that and definitely wouldn't have approved of it if she did. And that's like what her friends have leaked to the sun. I don't know how much I believe that, but she also liked a comment.

That's why the sun came up with these fake sources. Right, cause they were like, they could see Rachel's self cause she liked a comment that basically said like, guys she was so blindsided. And I think at first people took it as like she was blindsided by the breakup. But if you really think about the context of their relationship, it would make more sense

that actually she broke up with him. Cause the way it was going for him, he didn't have to propose, everything's good. I got my girl. We're making content. Like, but you know, a woman is more sensitive to timelines. And I think maybe she like finally

realized like the lack of potential and the lack of a future to really ever get married. And she had made the really tough decision to break up with him. And then he in retaliation, like decided to block. Cause even if you have like a contentious breakup as a public, as public figures,

like you sort of align on how to announce just to like minimize any sort of drive, to minimize this. But he goes rogue and shares his unique. I actually, that wasn't, I don't think she broke up with him. Oh, you think he broke up with her? I think he broke up with her? I think he broke up with her and then also posted about it prematurely without telling her, so she's like heartbroken.

And now everybody knows kind of like Brianna Chicken Fry. There's a lot of Zach Brian. Chicken Fry was blindsided by the announcement. Not necessarily the breakup, they were having issues for a while, they broke up a month before, blindsided by the fact that she wouldn't even have a few days to just process it before everybody knew the news.

So I can see being blindsided, maybe not by a breakup, like you're in the relationship, like you know what's happening, but by the fact that someone would put it out there long before they needed to, no one was like, hey, we haven't seen for Matt and Rachel in a while. Yeah, I am choosing to think that she broke up with him. I don't know why he would have broken up with her. Like he was, they were in a while. Yeah, I am choosing to think that she broke up with him.

I don't know why he would have broken up with her. Like he was, they were in a really happy, I think, relationship. Yeah, they made in the shade. Yeah, they made in the shade. And a man who's like not being pressured after four years. Like, and then I think like, cause also like the subtext of a lot of their videos, whenever being asked,

or even they went on a podcast talking about it, it was like always jokey. Like, oh, Rachel wants me to like, excuse me. So I could see her sort of reaching her limit there and breaking up with him and in retaliation, him posting this thing, like a sort of a vindictive thing to do because the Zach Brian of it all to break up with someone

and then also like take control of the public. Like that's so mean. And we now know he was like an emotionally abusive person. I don't think Matt James is like that. I think he was like a selfish boyfriend, but I don't think he's like an evil person. So to do both, to break up with someone and then also take control of the public,

that's a really mean thing to do. But I could see him being hurt and angry and wanting to retaliate and being like, well, I'm gonna post it on Instagram first. Yeah, I also think sometimes relationships run their course and people can end things amicably and then also be broken up, but still communicating about how they want to share it

with the world. I think that's what happened with Paige and Craig. I think he knew she was gonna do a podcast about it and share and they were on, and he knew that it would be however many days or weeks after they broke up and that you get on the same page because like that is the thing that you have to factor into a public relationship.

So when someone doesn't do that, even if you're not boyfriend and girlfriend anymore, like that was still your best friend at one point, treat them with a little respect. I completely agree. So I took her liking that comment as her being blindsided simply by the announcement, not by the breakup. Yeah.

And let me tell you, homegirl is active on social media. She liked one of my TikToks this morning. Oh, and not to make everything about me, but me and Ben, me and Ben, Ben thought it was so weird too. And like Ben is friends with Matt. So like we were like, Matt unfollowed both me and Ben. We didn't know, we don't know when,

but I was like, maybe like he's obviously going through something because he's obviously being crazy to you. Unfollowed Ben and I, I don't know if it was like this week, but I haven't checked ever. Definitely not this week. So it could have been like a year ago and I wouldn't know, but like, excuse me.

Really? Now you're mad. But maybe, cause I know Rachel, I think is like an OG toaster. Maybe like Ben and I remind him of Rachel. Not me like literally making this breakup about me. I think he unvalued you a while ago and it's unrelated to this breakup. Yeah. I think so too, but I wanted to center myself and just let everyone know like he unvalued me. Who. Who follows people these days? He's in a bad place. Clearly struggling. No, you only unfollow someone when they offend you. Yeah, when you really dislike them.

You don't casually unfollow someone. That's why even when I'm like, this person no longer serves me, I followed them like at a different time and then we just grew in different directions. Like I have such a hard time unfollowing because it's such a fuck you. It is, and it's really unnecessary. I And it's like, I don't fuck you.

I don't fuck you. I just don't fuck with you. Yeah, so I would love to know what I did to Matt James, but that's actually something- You hurt him. That's something funny with the new TikTok ban is in the last couple of days, like I have unfollowed people.

Like I'm not gonna spend my last days engaging with people I don't fuck with. Like now it's like, who cares? But in general, I agree with your unfollowing philosophy, but on TikTok, right now it's like the Wild West. Everybody's just like- You gotta live like you're dying. Exactly.

And I've actually started to block people who I don't know at all, but whose faces bother me. Oh, I love that. Yeah. We should be doing that. That's something that's a lesson we should apply. It's so extreme to block someone, but it's not, I'm not blocking because I hate you.

I just like your face and your content are terrible. And like, I don't want to see it anymore. No, and because TikTok shoves people down your throat who you like have said, I don't like this person, but they're like, no, they're bad for you, watch more. You have to go out of your way to block them. They're bad for you, watch more. That is the TikTok philosophy.

That's what you have to block on TikTok. Like on Reels, they're like, oh, you didn't watch enough of that. Let's give you something else. Yes, yes, they're really catering to like your likes, not your dislikes. Yeah, they're catering to your likes. Yeah.

Do you want to amend what you said about Zach, Matt James being hacked? Oh yeah, I was wrong. Oh, okay, cool. Oh yeah. No longer feeling that way. I still feel like it was the weirdest thing on the planet, but after the hours went by where no correction was made,

I was like, oh no, this is real. So then I had to start like analyzing the situation with no longer with that disbelief, you know? Yeah. I also, for a few hours yesterday, thought that maybe it was a prank. Some of the people were like, maybe he lost fantasy football. And like, this was the dare that you have to like post

this breakup announcement. And like, that's why nobody was saying anything about it. Cause like Rachel kind of has to just like let him do it for 24 hours or something. But now I no longer think that because she's liking these comments. And that just proves how strange the announcement was because when couples announced that they get.

Nobody thought Jessica Alba was pranking us. Divorce on a dare. Like the theories that came out of this are like, no, they're actually announcing an engagement. This is a clue. Like the theories on TikTok, because if it was a normal announcement, people would have just started processing it.

But the fact that there was such disbelief, myself included, and it caused people to like actually conspiracy theorize, just proves how weird it was. No, it was an enigma wrapped in a riddle and prayer. But it ended up being true. That's the weirdest, that to me, that's what I'm shocked at. Like it was real. I'm excited to hear from Rachel.

Oh, big time. Take your time, but like I'm here and I'm- The toast wel it was real. I'm excited to hear from Rachel. Oh, big time. Take your time. Oh, sorry. The toast welcomes you with open arms, open invitation. And maybe you can tell me why Matt unfollowed us. Oh. Our next story, a little Hollywood news. Cameron Diaz has a new movie coming out.

I'm so glad you brought up Cameron Diaz because I walked past a billboard for her movie. It was getting too long till we last brought her out. Not only that, like she doesn't fart without the toast, like making it headline news. We are obsessed with her. And every time she comes out of retirement to do a movie, it's for a purpose.

And it's like she didn't work and then she made the other woman. And like, we understood why she took, you know, that month. Of course, that's a story that needs to be told. The trailer for this movie looks so unbelievably stupid. I have to imagine she's getting paid $20 million. Like, because she has a perfect record when it comes to films.

Like what the hell is this dumb action movie on Netflix with who? Jamie Foxx, right? Well, they have- She loves working with Jamie Foxx. She does, she does, she does, she does. They've been in two movies prior together. She, so this is what she said about her return to Hollywood and if she's gonna do it, is this it for her?

She said, I don't know how I view it. It's hard to say. If I say it, then it becomes this thing. I reserve the right to say no to doing a movie ever again and I reserve the right to say yes if I decide to. I'm not defining anything. I'm just open to whatever makes sense for me and my family at any given moment.

Such a healthy outlook. She's in such a privileged position. I'm just open to whatever makes sense for me and my family at any given moment. Such a healthy outlook. She's in such a privileged position. Like she doesn't have to work. She has that, you know, Shrek money, a hundred million on the bank. She gets to work on her passion projects, her Avaline wine. But, and I love when she does decide to step out and do work again.

I just really don't understand this one. Yeah, well, I think it's that Netflix money, but also she said about Jamie Foxx, I thought that if I was ever gonna come back and do a movie, the only person I'd come back and do it with would be this guy. Seriously, I had other opportunities along the way and I was always saying, no, I'm not doing it.

I've told you, well, what? Jamie asked Jamie, oh, I can do a movie with Jamie. And also her last movie that she did was Annie with Jamie Foxx. No, Annie was after the other woman. No way. Yes, Annie was 2014. I'll never forget where I was.

Nobody was more impacted by the Jamie Foxx Annie reboot, Quvengin and Wallace, than Jackie Asheri. It's so fucking good. Like that is how you take a classic tale and modernize it. It's true. People really slept on it cause they're like, oh my gosh, what are they doing with Annie? Another Annie.

But you had to, and also not just another Annie. Not just another Annie, but a modern Annie because typically like we're telling the story of orphan Annie, Great Depression, FDR. But this was no like Mr. Stacks, not Mr. Warbucks. She's in a helicopter. Annie's in a helicopter, not a horse and carriage. That's so true. They did something with it. Like Ms. Hannigan, not a horse and carriage. Like they did something with it.

Like Ms. Hannigan, like she's an influencer. Right, right, right. She has a YouTube channel. So it was really, really good considering. Okay. That's actually really interesting spin on it. I only saw once and I remember being like, oh, it's good. And now I just like talk about it.

Cause like we always talk about it, but I actually don't know. And maybe I'm due for a rewatch. And because I told you that it's good. Like you can believe that it is. Agreed, agreed. And Sia did the music. Right.

So there's original new songs. That are amazing. That slay. Yeah. And they don't get their shine. She did like a take on You're Never Fully Dressed Without a Smile, like pussy pop and anthem.

And so the fact that Cameron Diaz loves Jamie Foxx so much, like makes this whole thing better. But let me just say, like the movie looks really stupid and I feel like annoyed that like Cameron Diaz is like this perfect track record and really like a flawless resume. Tell me one bad movie she's made. Well, I'm gonna go to her Rolodex.

The thing about Cameron Diaz, it's not every single movie was like a perfect script like the other woman. It's what she brings to the movie. So I don't even know if I would have loved Bad Teacher as much with a different Bad Teacher. Right, right, right. That's a hot take.

So I do think that- But like something about Mary, the sweetest thing, like everything. But like what happens in Vegas could have just been like another obnoxious stupid movie. But she makes it special. So I actually think this movie would be like a cute action movie because she is enjoyable to watch

and just has effervescence and verve up on the screen. The movie is what Cameron makes it. It's really, really true. So let's make it rock. There's no real flops because she doesn't flop. Okay, that's a really good point. I like that. Bad teacher too, excuse me.

I heard they're turning it into like a series or something without her. Excuse-a-moi. Oh, I'm sorry. She made a bad movie once. What? Sex Tape with Jason Segel. Okay, while I agree.

She made a bad movie. The culture actually loves that movie. The movie was bad. And there are two of my favorite actors. And they were in Bad Teacher together. And why didn't they make it a sequel to Bad Teacher where they grow up and then they have a sex tape leak into the cloud.

They made a bad movie. But have you seen Jason Segel on the Today Show, like his last appearance, which was like, he knew the last time he was going to see Hoda. He said something like literally so nice. Everybody was saying nice things to Hoda, but like his was so genuine. He got like a little teary-eyed

and just was like talking about how, like she's just such a wonderful person. I feel like it was a real insight into like the mensch that he is. Please, if you have a story about Jason Ziegler, like I don't wanna hear it. Like I'm choosing to believe that he's a mensch. It like actually almost brought a tear to my eye.

It was just like a random moment, but I feel like it was really indicative of the type of person he is. It was very genuine and very sweet. Are you gonna tell us? What do you mean? What did he said? I don't know, it was really indicative of the type of person he is. It was very genuine and very sweet. Are you gonna tell us? What do you mean? What he said?

I don't know, it was like something, whatever. Like the way he said it was like so, everybody said, you have been amazing. This building's not the same without you. And it's all really nice, but he has this sort of courteousness, courtesy, excuse me, about him that it was just so, it was so raw, it was so real.

Everybody was just like saying these rehearsed things like that they felt like they had to say to Hoda, you know? Yeah. His was real. That's really beautiful. I have to go listen, but I also just saw a headline. Cameron Diaz finally comes out of retirement 10 years after sex tape center packing.

Oh, okay. I wonder if, if that's what it was. Definitely not. Like it wasn't that bad. No, Claudia, it's really, really bad. No, but like it did well. Like, yeah. It wasn't like an embarrassing public flop.

That's true. Okay. Well, anyway, she's back for now. Might come back again, might not. TBD, Cameron does what Cameron wants. I love that. And on a quiet night, I might watch this movie. That sounds like a light fare I would like.

On a desperate night for sure. You know what, I'm just gonna add that to the content list because otherwise I will completely forget about it. Yeah. You know? For sure. Get your book. Totally.

Get your book, girl. In one ear out the other. Get that pen. You know what they say about the pen, mightier than the sword. Whoever wrote that. That is the truth. Like never heard of Hamas, you know? Right. Good luck Get that pen. You know they say about the pen, mightier than the sword. Whoever wrote that, like never heard of Hamas, you know? Right.

Good luck using your pen. I know, yikes. Was that the fifth story or the fourth? It was the fourth. Well, we're moving slow today. We are. Our fifth story like should be a quickie though, because Brody Jenner says that he got a sincere apology

from Caitlin over feeling abandoned during Kardashian's fame. Yeah, this is like a really dark part when you think of like, Caitlin, there's so much from the Caitlin lore, but we really think of it through the context through the lens of the Kardashians, but like her prior like life with all those kids, like was actually extremely dark.

Yeah, there's just a lot of, she's lived a lot of lives. Yeah. And so not every single chapter was probably her proudest, but Brody is actually on the show, Special Forces, World's Toughest Test. Love that. And on Wednesday's episode, he revealed that he received a real sincere apology

from his parents just recently. He said, it was the first time in my life that I've ever gotten an apology. You know, I'm sorry for not being there. He told viewers that Caitlin expressed remorse honestly and that meant a lot to him. He went on to explain why he felt abandoned by Caitlin, whom he referred to with he, him pronouns

as Caitlin has publicly given her blessing for her kids to do so in the past. And I think- Oh, wow. Yeah, cause I think also when they do talk about the past. Caitlin's very lax. Yeah, Caitlin is very lax when they talk about the past. I think sometimes they'll even, you know,

refer to as the old name, which I'm not gonna do because I... One time, we cited a page six article that had Elliot Page's original name and we got accused of being like transphobic. We literally referenced an article and we put the link to the article in our description, which we do for every article that we reference.

And we were accused of dead naming and being transphobic, like, excuse me. Not even that, Claudia, the story was that Elliot Page had transitioned to Elliot Page. So if I never said the person's previous name, you would have no idea who I'm talking about. No, it was so, like, seriously, that was one of the craziest backlashes we ever got.

Like we all, Jackie, you didn't even say it. We just, they didn't like that we referenced it in the bio, in the description. Yeah, I said blank page has become Elliott Page. We read the Page Six headline. It was Page Six. Oh yeah, of course. Like it was their headline,

but if we say we never even said who became Elliott Page, like you would say who is Elliott Page. All is that to say, Caitlin is very understanding and very lax. Yes. So Brody said, quote, I'd randomly see him, him at the time, you know, here and there, but my mom, Linda would tell me that I would write on cards.

Why doesn't my dad call me on my birthday? He said, I had an incredible mother. Caitlin wasn't around that much. They split and then he met a woman, Chris Jenner. She had kids as well. The woman that he met, they had kids together, referencing Kendall and Kylie. And Brody recalled Caitlin going through her own struggles,

transitioning, which was documented on Keeping Up at the Time. He said it was all that was put on TV and there were these moments that we would have that was all filmed and it felt very invasive and not very genuine. I do wanna say that totally irrelevant, but this reminds me of like that time period

where actually when the Kardashians E show was like really popping off and Brody and his brother, Brandon, like they, before Caitlin transitioned, they would go on like vacations together. Like remember that episode where- Yeah, Brody got a half chub. Half chub. Yeah.

I like that you knew what I was talking about. That was a kind of a golden age of television. Like we didn't appreciate it at the time, but now like the Hollywood significance of the Jenner's, both Brody and Kendall and then the Kardashians. And then it's so, it runs so deep. That was so crazy. That was such good TV.

Yeah. No, now it's just a fact of life. Yeah. But it is so crazy. Like I liked that. I loved that. And you wouldn't have, we didn't know at the time, like how dark the past was between Caitlin and the original, the OG kids.

Like, let's talk about Casey Jenner. The first, before Linda, before Caitlin married and had Brody and Brandon Jenner, he, excuse me. She had a wife before that, because it's all in Caitlin's, that Diane Sawyer thing. And I was like, wait, who's Casey Jenner? There is an older daughter. I don't know where she is,

but hopefully they've also made amends. Also, Brody is a parent now. I don't know if you follow along with him, but he has a daughter and he's doing special forces. So that is nice. I'm happy for the family. Those are the Fast Five stories. And before we wrap up for the week,

before the long weekend, Jackie and I are gonna do Queenie and Weenie of the Week. One of our favorite things to do here every Friday, a great way to wrap up the week is to sort of look back and reflect and give out two awards, Queenie of the Week and Weenie of the Week. They're pretty self-explanatory.

Who is somebody who acted like a Queenie this week? And who is somebody that acted like a Weenie this week? This is a reminder, it's a seven day title. It's not that serious. Like it's supposed to be fun. Yes, so I'll go first. My Queenie of the week goes to Spencer and Heidi Pratt. My Queenie was Spencer specifically.

Well, Heidi for hitting number one on the Billboard dance charts. The two of them, like they continue to like emerge every few years and people are reminded of like how just funny and great and they are. That's because they really have it. I remember when Spencer came on our show when we were the breath and I seriously had tears

in my eyes from laughing so hard at everything he was saying. Like I never laughed that hard any time ever. And they're always like working hard and the cream rises. And I just feel like every few years, everyone has this Renaissance with them and we shouldn't forget how like funny and fantastic they are. And they also went through it. So I feel like every time they re-emerge,

they get even more vindicated from like their Hills villain. Cause most people who like love Spencer now, like weren't even socially conscious with the Hills, but like they were like the most hated couple in America. They were making a lot of money and they were really famous, but like that was hard. So I feel like they constantly get and they were really famous. But like, that was hard to, I feel like they constantly get re-vindicated, especially like back to the beach.

I feel like everybody was just re-watching the hills, the hills of the city and all those shows. And like, you were re-watching it now as adults. It's like they learned to do nothing wrong. And by the way, the proof is in the pudding. They are still married. Right. And like a lot of the issues was that Heidi

was choosing Spencer like over her friends and stuff, but it's like that, they're still married. Like they're that in love, they're each other's person. So the proof is in the pudding. Before that, when Spencer's like Snapchat got really popular, like he goes through these like, these waves of like people remembering. And so they're obviously going through

a very hard time right now, but they are just like so entertaining and in love. And I'm just happy for the success that they're having amidst tragedy. Yeah, I decided to make him my Queenie of the week for all those reasons that you stated, but also because like the way he's chosen to build back his life while never taking,

like never, he's really, I know it's like funny because like he's the one posting all this content, but it's all about Heidi. Like he is propping up the woman in his life and he's just like doing what a man should do to make money, build a life. And like, I'm sure on top of that, the emotional like damage of losing,

like I can't even imagine. So they're doing all of that while dealing with that hard stuff. And I just love the approach he's taken while like centering his wife. Like my wife is a star, my wife is hot, my wife is everything. He hasn't been saying like me and Heidi,

it's just Heidi's song, Heidi's this, Heidi's music video. Like I just love it. Yeah, agreed. What are you writing down? Your Queenie, cause remember I'm starting to write all of them. Oh right, let the record books reflect. Let the record reflect, put it in the toast museum.

Oh, my weenie. Oh, also I wanted to give an honorable mention for Queenie of the week to Tart. Like they really gave me so much enjoyment this week. I was like watching, I spent so much time making content, reading content, watching content about the Tart Trip. It was fucking funny and I enjoyed every minute of it. So honorable mention.

But speaking of TikTok, my weenie of the week is actually like all the people who are just like sort of mindlessly signing up for Red Note. One, because that's really not the way like social media apps take off. It's, you can't force it. So everybody's like, Red Note's the new TikTok. It's not.'t force it to everyone. It's like red notes, the new TikTok. It's not.

And the next TikTok, if there is one, like it will happen very organically. So you can't plan for these things. And like the- Reminds me of threads. And also what was that other one? Lemon? Lemon eight. So- Lemonada.

Lemon eight. The last time TikTok got banned. Well, not banned, but it was like 30 days. What everybody signed up for Lemonade. They're like, it's the next big thing. And did it take off? No, you can't predict what the next big thing is gonna be. And like, you're sort of not understanding the threat.

Like the Supreme Court doesn't just ban apps for a reason. So it's like, yeah, we can think it's stupid or annoying or wrong, but like there's valid reasons. So just to like march into the Chinese army, like red note, sign me up, terms and conditions, here's my data. Like with like almost no care in the world, it's kind of weenie.

I will not be signing up for red note. Don't look for me there. Yeah, even threads that got millions of users in one day, the biggest app growth of all time in 24 hours, zero zilch. You can't predict these things. That's why TikTok was such an anomaly. It was musically and all these kids.

And the next thing you know, it's a $400 billion app. Like you can't predict it. So good luck with what's gonna happen to your phone if you have red note, but it ain't gonna be me. My wee is Matt James for the announcement, the confusion, not consulting with his woman. And now actually makes you appreciate

those joint statements that are like, we have decided to go our separate ways because that just shows like respect for your partner. And this shows like going rogue and disrespect. So that's my weenie. And also unfollowing like two fabulous creators is also weenie like behavior. Two fabulous creators, he's obviously like not interested

in queenie like content and just weenie like content. Well, that's what will serve him. I wonder if she still follows him. Oh, that's a good call, check. Cause that's grounds for unfollowing. I made sure she's still following me. I'm like, maybe they both hate me. She still follows you.

Let's see, Matt. Yeah, don't worry if she still follows cause she's a queen. She still follows Matt. Well, that'll be like a big thing when she unfollows him. And she didn't ask for this drama. So she's not prepared. Yeah, she's a queen. She still follows Matt. Well, that'll be like a big thing when she unfollows him. And she didn't ask for this drama. So she's not prepared. Yeah, she's not prepared.

So just take it easy, Rach. Enjoy the long weekend. Yeah. Guys, thank you so much for a fabulous week. We're back on Tuesday, don't forget. Thank you so much for listening to the Toast on Monday morning show where we tell you all the fast, fast stories you need to know every Monday to Friday on YouTube.

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