The Toast - Loser Sneeze: Wednesday, April 29th, 2026

Episode Date: April 29, 2026

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Jackson, Claudia, favorite show the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off, swirly, it's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy hump day. Don't forget to hum someone you love. I'm happy to be your host, Claudia, who has such a wild side that everyone has gotten to know. And speaking of everyone, it's my girl, Jess. Not just anyone.

Not just anyone. Not just anyone. and I do feel confident that in today's episode, you will continue to see Claudia's Wild Side, making good on the wish that Olivia, of her elder sister, I wish for the world. I'm just updating our whiteboard

because yesterday was our second show without talking about the Licks versus Lexx drama in a formal capacity. The whiteboard now reflects that. Are there any stories about them today? No, they're not. So I think we're going to go three for three on days without speaking about it

in a formal capacity. We'll see. Time will tell. Last night was the summer house, you know, day. Watch Summerhouse, watch Lindsay on Watch What Happens Live. Watched up to the first commercial break.

Same. It was boring. Oh, it wasn't boring. I was just, it was getting so late. I'm now in the phase of like, you know, Charlie transitioning sleep.

And so he starts, like, what I went through last spring with Harry where like I had to fall asleep in the bed with him and then transfer him. Like, now I'm going through with Charlie, which means I can't get to my shows to like,

9.30, that's wild, man. I did feel like it was boring. I think not every episode is going to be a banger. This one, like, I feel like people were sort of like grasping at straws, like looking for stuff. I don't think there was anything. It was just like a fine episode. And it was the same for Watch What Happens Live.

And Andy was once again, like being rude to Mother Hubbard. Like he was just. Oh yeah. He was like, he got really testy. He got testy. I do have sympathy for like a live show where the guests have so much personality. Like sometimes just shut up so I can move on to the next segment or cut to a commercial break.

People try to have like their moment on WatchDremband's Live. But he rushes people so, so much sometimes that it's just rude. What about this? How about less segments? Like the segments are nutty. Yeah, they are. And we're there for the big personality who's trying to have a moment. Like, please, by all means, have a moment.

Tell us something interesting. Oh, I felt bad for the bartender. Because, you know, sometimes people don't realize. Oh, my God. The bartender who corrected Andy and let him know he has three restaurants. The bartender sometimes is a sponsored role where like a brand will. pay. So Andy has to legally, like, give them 30 seconds. Sometimes you could tell it's just like a friend of a friend and Andy just like really. But this guy, like, I think he got contractually,

like one question. He was having his moment. And I did feel bad. Like I do think it's a waste of a brand's money. To go on watch. Why? I now know he has three restaurants. One called the dirty. One called Jack and Charlie because he should go on namesake. He should go on namesake. He should go on namesake. I have been there. So the streets are saying that they like namesake. And by the streets, I mean Claudia's best friend's mom, which is a really influential figure in your life. She's my Moroccan friend's mom.

And I would say it this point, like, she's my friend. And she was DMing me this morning about namesake because she has a son named Ruby. So her son could go on namesake. He could. I just want to say, I'm glad that the fandom is, like, growing for namesake. because it's going to take a lot for me to get on board. Maybe it's like my solo project. Passion project.

Like I've always said one of these days, like I will do a podcast with Ben. Like one of these days. It's coming. And one of these days you will also host a podcast called namesake. I think it's a solo mission. I think I got to fly solo and I'm okay with that. Like there's some things that like I could not do without you.

But maybe I meant to do namesake on my own. And it's my. It's my dream, not yours. No, it's not my dream. And in terms of like interview formats, one-on-one is so much better than two-on-one. Yeah, I feel like I'll really, I'll get to the bottom of things with Charlie Puth. Listen. We should reach out to his team and like having to, who do you think should be the first person on namesake?

Who inspired it? Was it Charlie Puth? I think so, but there's another person. McKaylan Agarra. She didn't inspire it, but she was. definitely a big get for namesake. Levi from Summerhouse. No, she was a late edition. It was like Harry Chousy.

Levi from Summerhouse is a late edition. And you could also now and then I'm thinking about it, have my good friend Harry Stiles. Yes, I could, of course. Prince Harry. I saw somebody post something really interesting because it's so true. Not Harry Stiles and Zoe Kravitz having to announce their engagement to the public twice. It was like it was reported in two waves.

Like people didn't care enough the first time. So then it was reported again yesterday. like TMZ, like, it's confirmed. Like, you said that a few days ago. Well, I feel like when I first saw it, I just, when someone puts out an engagement and it's like not from their Instagram or whatever, I just like don't believe it because like these rags. Just from a piece of jewelry.

Lie, lie, lie. So they did need to confirm it. I just think people don't care. And I just want to say, I kind of care. I was talking about this. So yesterday I recorded Nuts skating, but not fat. We did like pop culture. And she was like, why does nobody care about Lewis Hamilton?

Kim Kardashian. And I'm like, they just don't. It's not interesting. Kim's not like having her viral moment right now. And she was like, and people also don't really care about Zoe Kravitz and Harry Stiles. And that's true. But I want to say that's not my truth. I happen to be like on ship for them. I'm excited about the prospect and I'm all good. Yeah, but you're not like as excited as you could be, you know, like Michelle Sinai and Dr. Dre. Just because some things have that it factor. Magic. Geneseecoa. Yeah. Absolutely. Some things are like kind of obvious and a little boring. But boring for a relationship is good.

So that's good for your actual relationship. Stability is hot. I feel like we live in a world where like people who are happily married like aren't the most interesting. It's like the aria. You're always saying like the Ariomattox trajectory. Like why can't married people get brand and deals? Like for me like my idols. I can't marry people get brand deals.

And obviously I'm speaking for turd self. Like my idols. like people I look up to, like, are stable. Like, I only want to, like, watch content of people who, like, have shallom bite. Yeah. Inner peace. Yeah.

I find that very influential to me. Yes, me as well. Yeah. It's kind of how, like, when I became a mom, I stopped following or, like, engaging with any sort of, like, toxic moms who, like, make, like, oh, can't wait you to put my kid to bed so I can kill myself. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I fucking hate that shit.

I hate it. I want toxic positivity. Like I don't even want to talk about the hard stuff because it doesn't matter. And like harping on it just makes it harder. No, yeah. And then it's like more time you spent in the hard. Yeah. No, and it's like it was hard, but it was us.

Like, who cares? Yeah. So I apply that also to like relationships. Like I'm only, if you, I want boring content. I want peaceful content. I want people who go to bed at 8 o'clock and just like scroll and fall asleep together, you know? Yeah. Yeah.

Ben went to the dick game last night. And it was kind of a star-studded affair. I mean, Kylie and Timothy. So, like, when me and Ben go to Nick Games, I take Ben's glasses. Because I have, like, pretty good vision. But Ben wears, like, an actual micro, like a pair of binoculars. And so it helps me, like, look at the front row, see who's there. So I like, my influence on Ben is, like, now he goes to the games with his friends.

And he takes pictures of the celebrities and sends them to me. And it was a packed house at MSG last night. You know, the usual is Tracy Morgan, Ben Stiller. But Tracy Morgan was there with Tina Fey. Tracy and Liz. And then, of course, Kimmy. and then Timothy was sitting next to Tina and Kylie was sitting next to Ben Stiller. Yeah, I thought it was weird.

I thought they should have switched. I feel like Tina Faye has like made jokes about the Kardashians. Absolutely. And that would be a little awkward. Kylie would have to. Kylie would always be polite because she's a queen. No, but she's definitely whether it's like in her. She definitely gave Timothy a little pinch.

He's like, no, I want to sit next to Ben Stiller. And it's like, get over there. No, like a little elbow. Sit down. You know she has sharp elbows too. She's so skinny. Also, did you see at stage coach? I totally forgot to talk about this when we were recapping stage coach.

Brett Young, who's like, was on his way to being a huge country star and somehow like fell off. He did his set wearing a shirt. I think he chose Shalom Ba'i, actually. You do? I do. Like, he has a Shalom Ba'i. He does. But for a man, like, you don't have to make a choice.

You can have Shalombite and be a huge star. Look at Luke Holmes. Have you been seeing like those reports about him? Like, I mean, because he's been doing interviews and stuff about how. how he prioritizes fatherhood. He doesn't do any shows during the week. He travels on the weekend, but he is with his kids more than like 90% of fathers.

So Shalom Bai means like peace of the home, which means just like inner peace. And yeah, like having a stable family life. I totally agree. And I just for a career, like it's really impossible for a man to like lose his career because he was too busy being at home. That's just like not how it works. And Brett Young, there was like an era.

And I think he was really like lifted up by Sam Hunt falling off. Like he was so up and coming, banger after banger, and he just kind of fell off. And yes, he does like get married and have kids, but I don't feel like. I think there's just like a lot of country guys. And there are actually a lot of even successful. Like if there's a hundred mid-country artists, even like 20 of them will become huge. But that does leave 80. The reason why I brought him up is because he played his stagecoach set in that t-shirt

that's like a mockery of the Beatles where it's like, Kim, John, but it's Kim, Kylie, Chloe, Courtney and Kendall. I love it. That's weird. Yeah, me too, but like, why do you do that? I mean, personally, I can't understand someone who wouldn't wear that shirt. Of course, the biggest day of their career. I can't speak to why he wouldn't wear, why he shouldn't wear it.

People in the TikTok comment section were, like, guessing that maybe he lost a bet. Oh, cool. Like fantasy football. Maybe like March Madness. I don't know. I just don't think that's true because I don't think he's that big of a loser. Loser sneeze. I could see him being a loser, to be honest.

Why? Why do you being so hard on him? I think he's such a cutie. Am I being hard on him? Called him not successful, lost a bet. I didn't think he wasn't successful. Okay, I guess like I am being really harsh on Brett Young. My bad, my bad.

I think he's so great. I love his music. We saw him perform once at Surf Lodge. Oh, no, you weren't there. You saw him at Surf Lodge? Why wasn't I there? Me, Margo Ashae, Margo Lueen. I don't know what the circumstances were.

That I wasn't there? And you weren't there. Brett Young at Surf Lodge. They only have the worst people come perform at Surf Lodge. Brett Young at Surf Lodge. I believe the year was 2019. That's when all the great things. Where the fuck was my fat ass?

Socially happen. I remember I was out east with the Margot's. Yeah. Well, that song of his, Sleep Without You is literally the best song ever made. Mm-hmm. As long as the night as a beauty, yellow cap, me and Texan coming home soon.

Oh, so yeah, Ben went to the next game. The next one. Next tape. And hopefully they, you know, keep doing that. Continue to win. So we can keep getting Tiley and Kimethe. I don't know why I can't say their names. I'm having a stroke now for the second time.

Timothy and Kai. Yeah, but you could have said just timely. Is that their name or Kimmothy? I like Kimmothy better. Even though it sounds like Kim Kardashian's dating, Timothy. It's Kylieimothy. That's good. That's cute.

I like that. I like it. We've got a great. Excuse me We've got a great sneeze for you We've got a great loser sneeze We've got a great show We have our summer house

Re-cat We do We have What are the stories like? Let me Let me refresh myself What are the stories like? Is your shirt from Amazon?

No Avara Oh I'm just like really showing Myself Oh I just have a similar shirt Oh You know like actually like light bites

I would say I would describe today's stories as light bites. Yeah. I like that. Yeah, you know, just like a little snacky, chewy little thing. Sacky chewy? Sacky chewy. Like it's not like, it's not a big meal.

The stories aren't meal-like. And they're also not, they're definitely sweet, you know. It's not like a celery stick. I would hope not. But sometimes we can have a celery stick if it's like business. I would call that a celery stick. I miss business. I know.

I don't know why. Like, I guess, yeah, everything's in waves here at the Turst, you know? It's so true. So, yeah, light bites. I'm looking forward to discussing and munching on these light bites. On these hors d'oeuvres? In the Fast 5 stories that, no, the PFFB is the hors d'oeuvres. Yeah.

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album called Petal, executive produced and co-written by she and Ilya, who like works a lot with Max Martin and worked on Eternal Sunshine. Yeah. So I feel like she made a whole big deal about how she like wasn't doing music anymore because she's got the acting theater bug. Yeah, but then I feel like she didn't get nominated for an Oscar and she was like this whole thing was for nothing. I'm going back to music. You're lying. You really think it's what it was. I was. I don't know. I feel it was. I really actually maybe like sorry to just you know debase her but like maybe it was just because of Ethan like maybe she wanted to be an actress because she was dating an actor and she's a sort of girl who like are they not dating anymore no they're not together anymore are you sure I'm

pretty sure let's look at I haven't heard that I feel like that that was Ariana Grande Ethan Slater I think they are still together they are I'm fairly certain which like on one part like they have to stay together for their whole lives because of what they did I thought so too okay so it's not just because she was like acting for him to be like she's not publicly single she is still believed to be with Ethan Slater as of ladies information according to chat so it wasn't just to be his like dream theater girl no no I don't think she was larping like you know when you get a new personality when you date someone now no no I don't think and like you're in their world and he's like with actors actors on actors I think maybe like

Wicked was such a world win and it required so much of her that she thought all movies would be like that and so she would have no time for music. But then she did like Meet the Fawkers, which is just like a regular movie and you probably work for like a month or two. And she was like, wait, maybe I can do both. And so now she's like, never mind. I do think the Oscar thing like really pissed her off, honestly. Interesting. But she did get nominated for the first movie, right? So she... No. Oh. Okay. Are you sure? I don't think so. No, did Ariana? Because like at least she could then be like, Oscar nominated actress.

I don't even think she did. Let me just ask chat really quick. Well, damn. I also feel like someone needs to tell her she doesn't need to make like these grand proclamations. Sorry, she did. She did, she did. She's nominated, but she did win. She's Oscar nominated.

Yeah, that's good. That's pretty cool. You don't need to make like grand proclamations. Like, I'm not doing music anymore. Like, just see what happens. You know, like wait and see. I feel like a lot of people do that. And then they have to like undo what they said.

And it's like, just don't say big statements like that. Just don't share your plans with us. Yeah, especially if you don't know what they are. Move in silence. But I mean, she's a great musical artist, like a once in a lifetime sort of talent. Like, it would have been sad if she wasn't making like bops anymore. And she's a bop maker.

So I, as a consumer of bops, like, I look forward to listening to what this album holds. Yeah, and I do think with the perspective of hindsight, Eternal Sunshine, well, I don't know how commercially successful it was. in the moment, I do feel like as far as albums go, it made quite an impact. I think it was very successful. It's very good.

There were a couple of... There was a lot of discourse about it at the time. There are a couple of like amazing songs on it. Yeah. I think it did everything that you hope an album will do. I watched a really interesting TikTok about Ariana Grande's acting career from like an actor, like a film buff.

And I guess like Ariana's thing is that she will do a movie, but like sort of a prerequisite for her rider and like contractually they have to agree like she handles her own glam because you know she has this thing where like she won't show one side of her face and she has to wear a hair a certain way she's like I don't want to use the word like insecure

but like particular. Yes. And when you're an actress like you just can't be that way like you just can't you have to be a chameleon and you have to let them like do their thing and so this TikTok was reviewing I guess they saw Meet the Fokkers or whatever this new movie's called

and it's like this kind of distracting thing where she's just like this pop star sitting in glam Like when she's supposed to be like a daughter-in-law. And I didn't know that that was a part. And I guess she did it in Wicked, but Wicked was still like big and theatrical that it didn't, you know, you didn't notice it.

But you could tell that she did it in Wicked. Yeah, because she just looked just like herself. Like, yeah, I think Kim also does that. I don't think Kim would let anyone else touch her face, even for her. Yeah. And so she's always going to look like Kim Kardashian in a movie. It's limiting. It's limiting.

I don't know that. Like, you have to be down to clown. You have to be down to be ugly, like for real. Would you gain weight? Would you gain weight for a role? Not you. These people, these, like, would, does Kim want to be an actress bad? Kim would.

Would she, would no. Would Ari? No. Could she? No. She, I don't think she would. So like, yeah, I guess that's like, you're not a serious actor if you won't do that. You're not.

Yeah. I wouldn't be a serious actor. I need my own glam. Actually, there's this viral clip. I don't know if you've seen it. It's like, I think it's many years old, but it just started resurfacing. Again, I've now seen it twice. where Hillary Swank is like doing a

moderated panel or whatever and there's an audience Q&A and this woman gets up and asks her quite literally the most unnecessary question I guess there's an episode of the office where the whole premise is everybody in the office is arguing whether or not Hillary Swank is beautiful like some people like no she's not

and the question was like have you ever seen the episode what do you think? Which like I don't know what brain dead person thinks that's a good question and her answer is very much like I think I haven't seen it but I know that it exists. And like my whole thing is like, I just play real people.

And like some people are ugly and some people are not. And so like that's why she's a great actress. She's not afraid to be considered ugly. Even though I'm watching the panel, I'm like, no, she's very pretty, but she plays ugly people. Yeah.

Remember she played like that kind of manly boxer? Yeah. So did Sydney sweetie. Yeah. Right. Range. She's not afraid to get ugly. No, no.

But I think when you're like such a bombshell, like it's not a question whether or not Sydney Sweeney is like insanely beautiful, even though people like to be like, she's not that hot. It's like, okay, ugly, whatever you say. So it's like, it's fun to play ugly because no one's really gonna think you're ugly.

No, but like I actually am surprised. I've like seen a couple clips from like euphoria and stuff. And like she's not afraid to like embarrass herself as an actress. And it's quite surprising, especially with this like baby only fan stuff. Have you been seeing that? Mm-hmm. Like it's not on her because she didn't write that and she's just,

and we know that the people who do write the show are like freaky as hell. Disgusting. But like, she just like does it. I saw the scene where she's like the one where she went viral. Like I've never been so happy in my life. Like her face is like right. I've never ever been happier. She looks crazy.

Her character is a crazy girl, like a really desperate love struck loser. But she's like the popular girl, but nobody knows how big of a loser she actually is. That's crazy. And then I just saw a scene from her in Meets wedding where she's like dancing on him. Yeah, they did like a choreograph dance. And she's just like really like gets after it. Yeah. She's a good actress.

She really is. You would think. Except that movie, anyone but you. She should have that deleted from the internet. It is the worst acting performance from a human being I've ever seen. People liked it, Claudia. I enjoyed the movie. I'm not saying it was a bad movie.

Her performance was someone's first time on earth. Like it was not, it was bad. Well, the place looks great. It always does. So with new Ari music, that's exciting. Like, sure, sure. Yeah, sure. Petal.

Petal, cute. Cute. Oh, because pedal, because I have this right here, something that is full of life and growing through the cracks of something cold and hard and challenging. What? A pedal. I can't think too hard about Ariana Grande because I just end up disliking her. Yeah.

Yeah. What she did, like every time we talk about her and we say positive things, We have to just bring up the fact that she broke up a family. They both did. They both did. A family with a newborn baby. Like Lily Jay, whatever that girl's name was. No, that's not her name.

It's Lily Jay, I think. Hold on. On my way. I'm on my way. Lily Jay. There isn't enough justice in the world for that girl. And I don't even think she got any. Like people don't believe in, you know, Bowen Yang's always like,

don't believe what you hear about Ari. And it's like, no, I do believe it. And she wrote a piece in like New Yorker pretty much confirming the whole thing. Yeah. There isn't enough justice in the world for that woman. Yeah, I agree. You got to keep it surface with Ari. You can't look beneath the surface.

You really, for me at least, like I unfortunately cannot stand due to my moral compass. You cannot stand. Did I say stand? You did. I meant stand. I can't like fully dive deep. No, no, no. Surface.

I can stream. I can have fun. I can even go to a concert. Wiccan. Can watch the kid. Of course, of course. I can't give a part of my soul, you know, like I'd use to some of my faves, like Taylor. You cannot ride.

I cannot ride. I understand. My energy, my heart, you bitch. Are you ready for our next story? No, I'm not because on my morning TikTok scroll, today I watch just like 10 minute deep time. You know, they talked about it on Real House Eyes at Beverly Hills, but I feel like no one was listening. Lisa Rinder just shared the fun fact that her mom was actually like a victim of that serial killer, David Carpenter.

Yeah. She was like the first one he tried to kill her and then went to jail for like seven years and got out and then became a serial killer. Well, somebody did like a whole deep dive on the actual incident of what happened to Lois Rina. Let me tell you it's the craziest story I've ever heard. I was like gripping my seat. Terrible story. She was like friends with him.

He was like some loser from her workplace who had a stutter. And she was nice to him. Big mistake. He like kidnapped her in his car and like drove back to a military base and started beating the shit out of her truck to kill her. Oh my God. It's such a crazy story. It's such a crazy story.

Yeah, and I guess he wasn't a serial killer yet. Right. She was going to be his first victim, but she fought so hard. He chopped off two of her fingers. Oh, my God. It was a crazy story. Oh, my God. That's insane.

Yeah, it really was. Actually, speaking of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, sort of. Our next story, White Lotus Season 4 casts sort of. Sort of. Because they've casted Laura Dern, not to exactly replace Helena Bottom Carter,

but this new character that they're developing instead in place of Helena Bottom Carter. However, the rumor will was swirling at one point that it would be Jennifer Tilly cast as Helena's replacement. And let me just tell you this is a missed opportunity. I completely agree. With all respect to Ms. Dern. Even though Jennifer Tilly is so similar to Helena Bottom Carter

that if what their statement said was true, then they need someone different. Like Laura Dern is very different from Helena. Yeah, no. And it would like just prove that it was more of a personality conflict because here we go. We have another quirky, you know, ethereal actress. Yep.

But this put like as seen in my head, like I need Jennifer Tilly on a season of White Lotus. It doesn't have to be this. But I'm so here for the resurgence of Jennifer Tilly's acting career. She's one of my favorite people like I've ever discovered through Bravo. And she has so much lore outside of her. Bravo tenure, it's like the least interesting thing about her. The Simpsons, Chuckie, like, just everything.

Did she win an Oscar? I think so. Or nominated. Remember she was talking about nominated for an Academy Award for what? Oh, Broadway. She's also an Ace Ventura. Oh my God. She's an Ace Ventura Pet Detective.

You're right. She's the love interest, right? Yeah. That movie's so good. No, she's so iconic. Yeah, she really is. So Laura Jordan, it just feels like she's already been in White Lotus. Like, a thousand percent.

She's an amazing actress. It's just like a little uninspired, but I don't want to like throw shade. It doesn't excite me, you know. And now it's like instead of getting like a type Z character of the quirky older woman, like we're getting very type A. You know, she plays like Renata. Like my daughter needs to get into school. Amabel's mom for sure.

It's a safe choice. It's not going to be bad. But I liked the root. we were going down initially with the more quirky eccentric Jennifer Tilly type. Mm-hmm. But this just remind, like, if you are a showrunner, if you work in casting right now, there's clearly huge demand for Jennifer Tilly. So, like, put her in.

Put her in, coach. I would even say Lisa Rina, too. Yeah, even though Lisa Rina is not a, like, extremely skilled actress. And she's such a big personality. And she's so recognizable with the lips in the hair. I think it's very hard to sustain. spend disbelief and watch her pretend to be anything other than Lisa Rina. Now?

Yeah. What do you think about back in the day, though? Well, that was before she was like Lisa Buck and Renna and had like the lips and like the cultural cachet. Yeah. Yeah. I also think like the traitors was like bad for her resume in terms of acting. Abs of fucking looting. That was one of the worst performances.

And you know who should go into acting? Rob. Correct. Literally anyone else. Colton like literally anyone but Lisa yeah she should stick to hosting and reality TV and fashion yeah it was not good for her acting chops it was not a ringing endorseent by any means that's so true well congrats to Laura Dern the part of million girls would have killed for quite literally once again once again I saw something else interesting on my morning scroll

Vogue is really leaning into the devil wears Prada of it all they have a podcast that's hosted by the new swirly what's her name the new editor-in-chief. Chloe? Yeah, that sounds right. It's a podcast. I don't know how frequently they release. It's the first time I've ever seen it.

And she was sitting down with the real-life, Emily. And she was talking about Lauren Weisberg. Is that her name? Yeah, the author. The girl who wrote the book, who's like the Andy character. Devil Wars Product, people might not even know it's based on a book of like a real girl who was Anna Wintour's assistant. Emily is also a real person. And she talks about how they found out about the book for the very first time.

Anna calls her into her office And she's like, do you remember a Lauren Weisberg? And she's like, yeah, kind of. And they, she's writing a book about us. And actually, I only saw one clip, but it did look good. And it kind of made me want to watch it. That does sound good.

But she worked there a long time in the movie, right? Like maybe eight months or so. Andy? Yeah. Yeah. So they would remember her. Yeah. I don't think Anna would have.

remembered her if not for this book. No, no, no. Of course, the movie makes it seem like she would. You know, she's the one that got away. I know what's so funny? It's like I've seen quite literally no interviews with the author. I feel like this day and age when a book gets adapted, they're everywhere. She's very quiet.

I know. And what's also funny is she wrote a sequel when Life Gives You Lulu Lemons. It's like a sequel adjacent, but Emily is in it. No? Yes. Yes, it's, I read it. It's when they moved to Connecticut. They don't move to Connecticut.

It's about like some senator's wife or whatever, but like she needs PR and then I think Emily is like a big time PR. Oh, I think you're right. It's like a spinoff. It's a spinoff. It's so good, by the way. You should read it. It is a, I did read it.

No, no, you dear reader should read it. And they should make that into a movie. Yeah, but not connect it with devilware's product at all. It didn't need to be Emily's character. Like it was just a girl who works in PR and it was a good book. Yeah, it was. It had like a cute. connection to Devil We're his part and it's obviously a good author so it was good yeah but I would love to

hear from Lauren and Lauren self and at the time of the film like the original movie was there any interviews with her ever about her time and her connection and what did she think of I would love to hear from these people right I have no idea I would love to know yeah they should get her on the Vogue podcast but I'm sure she's persona on Grotta you think even though they're all like lapping it up they're leaning into like the fictionalized version but I think the actual book like was quite scathing. Yeah. Yeah. Our next story, a crazy update in the sports scandal that is rocking the world. Are you ready for today's news between Diana Rossini and Mike Brable?

I am, but I have to speak my truth. That you don't care? Not only is this story like do nothing for me. Like I literally do not care. I do not follow. I do not know these people. like I actually hate it now. Why? Because I'm being forced to pretend to care, you know? On this show, you mean?

Mm-hmm. I don't want to be like a naysayer. So I will talk about it, but I want everyone to know, like I hate these people and I don't care. I don't know these people, so I don't, like, it's not even about the people for me like, oh my God, a reporter and the coach. Like that's, but just the way that they've gone about their affair

over the last six years, everything that comes out is crazier the next, including the Sun's Spotify playlist. And now it's the Spotify playlist. Yeah. So according to. to the Spotify playlist. Diana Rossini tried to help Mike Vrable get over a four-game losing streak with a mediocre Spotify playlist.

At least that's what the internet believes after the NFL insider streaming activity surfaced on Monday. So someone found that she had made a Spotify playlist in December of 2022 called Turnin the page. And she shared that playlist with a user named Mike. It just so happens that that date coincides with a four-game Titans losing streak, the game, the team that he was coaching for. So she made him a playlist in 2022.

She made him a mixed tape. Yeah, a bunch of inspirational songs to get him out of his funk and that's 2022. Well, maybe if she had put the Sun is Rising by Britt Nicole on, he would have started winning because that. That is the most inspiring song. If you need to listen to one song, like to change your life, like you're about to embark on this huge,

what's the most inspiring song you've ever heard? I have a few. Britt Nicole is up there. I feel like that Mary J. Blige song you said I never be a leader doubt I think it's called yeah doubt that's good that's a really good one of course like the climb is the most inspiration the climb that should have been on her playlist taking chances by seline dion this is our diana rubel whatever her name is this is our mix this is our mic this is our mic playlist but you would just think like two people and then sorry broken hearted by carman well that's only if he wants to go on the treadmill yeah right you would think two people

engaging in an affair like would be a little more covert to title the playlist mic. They're boomers. Like they don't know that things can, that their Spotify podcast can be followed. Like they don't know these things. I didn't even know that, honestly. Yeah, but also they probably thought at the time,

they're known people, but they're kind of private. They're randoms. Like, it's not like they're not known. She certainly isn't. She's certainly isn't. Engaging in an illicit affair where they have to use co-names and whatnot. So like, I don't think they ever thought it would get out there

or that anyone would care. And so they were just the breadcrumbs are loaves as we say. Because they are boomers who don't know anything. And like, I don't think they thought people would ever care this much. And to be clear, I don't even like. No, I care about the way that they've moved over the last six years. It's really the craziest thing I've ever seen.

Kind of ship. It's like a very longstanding relationship. But the kid thing is weird. They're like both married. He's still married. He was like just caught like buying a Giff for his wife. Mm-hmm. So I don't know.

Where do we go from here? Yeah. Business as usual. Yeah. I actually had a dream that I was up for the job of Patriots head coach. Not you making the situation about yourself. No, I know, but I just came back to me. Like, I guess this story has infiltrated my dreams.

Clearly. And I had a dream that I was up for the role of head coach. And it was a very... Did you get it? It was, I woke up. It was very much like a Ted Lassow situation, where it was like, of course, I'm not... Let's bring in the podcaster. I'm not equipped for.

the role but like they saw so many of my other skills as being like really great for coaching right i kind of feel that right i think i'd be a good coach um better teacher coaches need like a lot of energy it's very physical a lot of standing i'd rather be a teacher yeah unless like is there a job where you could coach sitting down yeah they i don't think they don't even say they don't even chairs yeah they have a bench that doesn't like a good back support i need a lumbar Absolutely. I need a pillow too. Are you ready for our next story? Our fourth story?

I am. Just actors being weird. Actors being weird. Charlize Theron and Taron and Taron Eagerton were, quote, forced to take baths next to each other while making their new movie. What, like cold plunges? No, like there was one bathtub.

I just want to say Charlize Theron is pissing me off. She said that Timothy Shalamey thing, and then I don't know if you saw that, like, the next day. She was asked about it. Like, what did you? you mean when you said like AI is going to take the jobs of actors but not live performance and she was like I don't even really know what I meant by that I was just trying to hurt Timothy like okay you're literally 20 years older than him and you are not a part of this

conversation trying to hurt Timothy yeah like leave Timothy alone Timothy there's their own real path for him to be on main sake that's a bummer let's think well I plan on having more children oh my god imagine well then you have to have a tailor so we could have Taylor Swift yeah absolutely um i guess i know kardashians could be on namesake no okay it is what it is you know let me think hold on any of the kids i was just trying to think of the kids no we should shut the podcast out wait you've had we could this is going to be a little controversial okay we could we could have Aitland formerly shares a name with my father-in-law, Bruce Soffer.

I think it works. I think it works. There's a very light connection. But that is the tie. And I think that's what's so great about namesake. It's like you don't get to choose who you're going to talk to. Because you don't get to choose your family. You don't get to choose your name.

So that'll be like the title, like namesake. Because you don't get to choose your name. Yeah, and I also think like other shows that can have any guests on, like, it just becomes so, like, routine and anonymous. Like, I think having guests on is so boring. Like, because you can have anyone on, like, yawn. But I find when you have, like, parameters that you have to work with in, and anything that you do, you know, like a theme party.

Like, it's just, there's so much more options for creativity as opposed to just having, like, your pick of the litter. I was actually just saw a reel about, like, interior design. And this designer was like, oftentimes some of the projects, that have like a lot of limits like whether it's like the spacing or the small space or you know there's a thing you're forced to get creative and that's what namesake is absolutely a forced creation okay well charliez and taryn could not come on namesake but they did share in their new movie by the then charliees could come on charlie charlie also i got a text from our producer that um

charlie from love island charlie is what inspired it might have been one inspired name sake. Okay, but I think we could skip him. Honestly, like, yeah, like now. At this point, I guess we missed a boat. Yeah. Okay, so they said that they were

on set, the grueling new South Wales shoot. They found an unusual way to relax. Our one little bit of luxury that we had was we each had a bath. Do you remember that? We had a little bath each, a little hot tub. because we spent so much time in water that particularly if you're not shooting

when the sun's high in the sky you get cold and you get sick so we had to sit in a hot bath we'd sit side by side that was cute and Charlize would kind of feed me it's not jerky bil tong traditional South African Bill Tong and we would sit a non-biltong to try and keep in our suing

sinewy climbers physiques to sing in Brooks I find a thing in Brooks I find people. Stay strong for Brooks. Actually, I think stories like this are really important, if I'm being honest. Because I think a lot of times, especially us. You know, we wake up every day and our job is to like talk about celebrities.

And, you know, sometimes you get swept up in it. You think these people are so great. And I just feel like it's important to be brought, like, moments like this, like to bring you back down to like have these people are genuinely brain dead. Like, and they're weird. And they are weird. And they like to do things like this and make us think it's normal. Or they're either like dramatizing it.

Like, because now I'm like, well, you naked in the bath? Right. I would think so. Like, what are you taking a bath in a bathing suit every night? And like, where are there two baths? What is this? The Cialis commercial, there's two baths next to each other. Like, where else would you have two baths?

I don't know. I'm thinking it's like an outdoor bath situation. So then it's a hot tub, right? Yeah, like a hot tub. So they're just like trying to be provocative. Like you were in a hot tub with your co-star, that's not that weird. You're taking a bath next to your co-star? That's weird.

Yeah. Yeah. And I just didn't even know how to report on stories. like this like okay cool i think it was before you're cool it was before he met brooks though so hopefully she can straighten him out and do you feel like charliez theron i i feel like i'm always saying her name wrong that's like me and helena bottom carter right now i say it different every time helena helena helena charlie's theran theron charlie's theran charles don't know this doesn't sound right charlie's go with charlie's okay let's just say charlie's

don't you feel tell me if you agree with this like as a you know as a person that I am the life that I've lived her career her cultural impact her media her art has just missed me completely well yeah um she feels so random to me but she's like literally one of the most critically acclaimed actresses of our time i don't think i've seen her in one thing ever the italian job never saw it you never saw it it's so good really you should watch it you would like it because it's like kingsman sort of like if you're oh and i know you like kingsmining are always looking looking for like Kingsman like movies. I'm always like I'm consistently chasing the high that I felt when I watched Kingsman

for the first time. Yeah. Kingsman too helped. It did. I think they're making a series. I hope so. But yeah, she's in like Mad Max,

missed us. Atomic blonde. I didn't watch that either. Missed us. What made her? Monster. Missed us. Fate of the Fast and the Furious.

Nope. I also still didn't see bombshell. So missed me. Oh! I saw a bombshell. Yeah. Yeah, who does she play? Not Megan Kelly.

The other one. Uh, I don't know. I didn't see it yet. She plays one of the women. Yep. Okay, I've seen Charlie Serran. Gretchen?

Yes. Carlson. No, that's the country singer. No, I feel like... That's Gretchen Wilson? Gretchen Carlson sounds right. Yeah, I saw it. It was a good movie.

Yeah, I agree. I've missed a lot of this. She plays Megan Kelly. She does play Megan Kelly. That's a pretty good casting. Yeah. And it was a good movie. I don't know why I feel like I'm always talking about that movie.

Really? I don't feel like I always forget about that movie because every time I remember it, I'm like, oh, I need to watch it. And then I just completely forget again. Right. I'm not seeing Italian job here, but I know she was in it. You really should watch it Claudia. Ben would like it too. Like add it to your movie night list.

It's so good. I'm still trudging. through that 14 hour Rick Burns, New York, Doc. Take a break. Treat yourself. I did. I did. I watched your friends and neighbors, season two.

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reunion so kyle responded to a fan tweet the tweet said the fans said west explicitly asked at any criticism or he'd be directed at him rather than Amanda on his podcast. West then proceeded to sit silent and all three audio clips leaked. Kyle responded saying he's all PR and zero intention or integrity. The reunion was a brutal beatdown and I can't recall a moment when he had Amanda's back. Yeah. I think that that was clear from the leaks, even though of course it was, you know, three minutes of a 10-hour day. I think it was probably reflective of like the overall vibe. And we know that he does that. He shuts down. I just would have thought he would have tried a different route because he did do that two

years ago when he was such a loser sneeze for it. So I would have thought and he like really his cue score was obviously like a trauma response. Like he can't help it. He's just like sad and sullen. His cues war went to a zero after that. So I would have thought he would try something different this time. But that is his reflex is to operate like that when he is getting criticism. Now this week's episode sort of further cemented. at least for me, the theory that West and Sierra are like well on their way to getting back together. And it's crazy how like the second they forgive one another. There's no awkward period.

Like they're just back like hugging and holding and lingering and staring. And I am really curious if they decide not to because this is July. But if take West Mandel ball out of it. If I'm just watching the show, like she is very silly for that. I do, I am glad that she forgave him. I hope that they can be friends. They can't. But he still does not want to date.

Even when he's going on this double date with Sabrina. Sabrina and Ben, he and his confessionals is reticent. He's like, this feels like a lot very soon. You know, he's still the same fucking guy. He's not like, please forgive me. Give me another chance. I really like you. He's just like, please forgive me.

Be nice to me. I like you and I want to be friends with you and I want to have my cake and eat it too. but if she's not capable of not of speaking to him without really like falling for him, then she does need to still have that wall up because they're literally just going down the same path, a path that he still does not want to walk towards. Even in everything that he did,

he was never like, I wish I gave us a real chance. I wish I didn't. Can you give me another chance? Like he still just wants to like do watch parties and fuck around. Yep. And so the, it's just an impossible situation for Sierra

because she has to work with this person and live with this person. So I do feel bad for her. And yeah, you kind of just want to shake her being like, don't. This guy was just making it out with somebody next to you. Like, don't give him the benefit of the doubt. But she's just like so in love with him. And that's really just what it would.

It's hard to watch. She's so sweet. And she's trying her best. No, it's hard because in a regular situation, like if you're in love with someone that doesn't want to be with you like that. Or that's just bad for you. Like you can walk away. No, you just like cut them off. Like you, if you're not around them, it doesn't hurt as much like you can move on.

It's really hard to just like stop being in love with someone. No, and she cut him off while also like being in the same house with him. It's impossible. No, it's hard enough to stop being in love with someone. It's incredibly hard when you have to see them every other weekend, be in a house with them. Do press with them all year long. You're around them and you just love them more. So I don't fault her.

I just feel bad for her. I understand why she doesn't want to be in the situation of being mad at him still because like that's not. Who wants to be like the big curmudgeon in the house? It's not a fun way to feel. Everyone's having fun and you either have to like ignore it. You know, you want to be. And those are her friends too. So like, yes.

And I think she should have forgiven him. But I don't know where they go from here because they can't be friends at this level because he will disappoint her and hurt her again. And look what he's done. Yeah. So of course, like now knowing what we know. But in this moment, like I can't falter. But it's sort of like watching a train wreck.

Yeah. I thought the soft bar opening was really sweet. I feel very warm towards Carl. you know, personal biases aside. I still don't think it's like the greatest business idea, but like it's very pretty. You know, as long as it's attached to Summerhouse, you know, anything they do, like,

will be successful for the time being. But I just don't know like how successful a bar that serves no alcohol can be. But the meaning behind it is so beautiful that like, I really, I want it to be successful. I hope that it is. Maybe it will be. It seems like he has good like systems in place,

good infrastructure. think all of his fundraising and everything like amounted to everything that it should have amounted to he has a real space he really did it and you know like different strokes for different folks like people like stuff that you or i might not like and this could it's like in green point like there might be like a community for it it being in green point like where people just think differently in brooklyn you know like they have like a very like kind of like a laissez-faire approach to life it could work i really wanted to i was but i was also thinking like damn if this place just sold alcohol. I feel like it'd be a really successful bar. Yeah, of course. Um,

a couple of things about the event. I guess they could always just like sell alcohol. No. No. A couple of things. So many actually. One, I love that they're not selling lover boy. Because like, first of all, the whole thing is that it's like functional drinks and lover boy's like actually made of rap piss. Like they absolutely shouldn't serve it or put it in their mocktails. And I respect Carl for not. Two, it did feel like a launching pad in the city. You know, we saw a bunch of all faces. Yeah. I thought it was very like Sheena Shea walking from Sir into Vanderpumperals It actually would have been a great finale

Yes, it should have And then we can leave with Lexi and Andrea But also two weeks from this episode is the like Opening to the Public so maybe it'll be another one Right, right, right Oh but Carl's not on in the city I know and he was like

Talking publicly about how bumped he was about that Yeah Well then why don't you wife up Bailey and get on the show get a girlfriend like that's the key and that's what we were saying like we're married people are becoming interesting things to like the valley shaws of sunset in the city type of genre secret lives of Mormon wives um so yeah just get get a girlfriend and Bailey they were asking her on watcher happens live um Lindsay really endorses them as a couple and she I didn't have high hopes she was like oh yeah like I love him he's so sweet like if you're dating someone you wouldn't say I love him

I know and it's like so much time has passed since the summer when they were like burgeoning so it's either gone nowhere or it's not going anywhere. I can't remember a time I ever felt such physical discomfort from watching something on TV than I did watching Lindsay talk to Carl's mom. I kind of wanted to shake her because she was being a little rude. Can you remind me what the text said? What text? It was sweet. It was like after they broke up, it was just like a conclusion.

Like I hope you're, you know, doing well. It wasn't bad. Okay, but at what point did Carl's mom like talk shit about Lindsay? Because like Lindsay obviously dislikes her for a reason. Was it when they were going to get married? It was on the both. It was on the show like the on the porch when Carl went home like before the wedding and they're like. Yes.

And it's also just awkward, right? Like that's your ex soon to be mother-in-law. She was a little rude. Like this is like an older woman. Like you could be a little bit respectful. But I'm sorry. She's so funny. Like she really is so funny.

And it was hard. It was genuinely like physically painful to watch. Yeah. I had to like unclench afterwards. I have to, I'm going to give Lindsay the benefit it out and I feel like if I got a refresher on what that woman did and also things that we don't know that her reaction. I would also say fuck that bitch. Her reaction would be justified.

Yeah. Yeah. And also like the business of calling off a wedding is super awkward with money and stuff. So I'm sure there's a lot that we don't know that would warrant that. Yeah. Because Lizzie's not like a mean person actually at all. She's drama. She's funny.

But she's not mean. It was hard to watch. Yeah. It was just very awkward. And I loved her leaving without saying hello to Danielle. I just can't stand that girl. Yeah, well, she'll do that on in the city. Yeah, right.

We'll save that conversation for next season. So then there were a couple other breadcrumbs and Andy was doing this. They were trying to make more of it than what it was. It seems like the cast is starting to really suspect that West and Amanda had something brewing over the summer. Now, I think Lindsay makes a really good point where it's like, I do feel like maybe an emotional connection is blossoming. And maybe things did not get physical until after her separation announcement. but like there is some sort of pull between the two of them. And I also feel like Amanda's reactions to things that Sierra is saying about West are starting to change.

Or maybe I'll have to go rewatch the old ones. But like I. Maybe she was always. Or we're just like, you know, the benefit of like hindsight and we're like, oh, I see it on your face. You're not happy for her. Yeah, because I feel like some of the things from last night's episode, people are making more of. Like the text about the best weekend ever. I know what Amanda's saying.

Like, oh, everyone's having the best weekend ever and I'm not there. And I didn't think it was like, West, you're having fun without me. I didn't think that. I just thought it was like, the weekend I decided not to come. Everybody starts having fun. Like, excuse me. I know what she meant by that. So I do think people are looking into it, into some things more than others.

But I think that some people do need to ask themselves why it was the best night ever. Like which people, Kyle? No, like, yeah, it's not a coincidence. I just want to say, loving Kyle. Like, seriously. Loving Kyle. It's not a coincidence. She's been there.

every weekend they go out one time without her and it's a decedicina. She is Fabissina, obviously. Yeah. She, I don't think that's the energy like you really want to be around, whether you're a friend or your husband. It's so funny how like before West Mandeval, when Kyle said, like, I'm having the best weekend ever and it's because my wife's not here like yelling at me. Like people would be like, you're disgusting. And that's like, you're right. She's terrible. She is the problem. So you just can't take anything seriously. But it is relative. sweet that in his own way, like he does still publicly defend Amanda. Like, even that tweet that you were just

referencing is like, yeah, you are sleeping with my ex-wife, but like, and you don't, and he's still defending her being like, you're not even like going to have her back. Yeah. He definitely, based on the clips, it definitely sounds like he hung her the fuck out to dry. And when we think about their crimes, her crime is worse. She does have more to answer for. I think also as a woman, like people just expect more of you. They expect you. Be smarter and like to not operate, like follow your horrid whenever it takes you.

That's what men do and why they're low IQ individuals. Like we expect women to just like control themselves. To control themselves to do better. To honor friendships. To live by some sort of moral code. And it's clear based on what we know about West. He doesn't do that ever. So we expect very little of him.

The bar is in hell. And he told us that about himself multiple times. Multiple times. So she does get more of the heat. But you would want your boyfriend. I can't believe she left with him. I would seriously like, you hung me out to dry and we're leaving together.

But she's going to fight with the one person. Yeah, no, they have to. Sorry, they have to. They only have each other. And like she did all of this for him. I've been seeing also some clips of Jesse Solomon on tour. And I just want to say I'm also having a change of heart. Like, I love him.

I think we should all stream his music. Like, I feel bad for him. Like, and the music thing is cute. It is. Yeah. Yes, I'll start. And he just owes Lexi an apology. And then we can really.

Oh, fuck. I forgot about Lexi. Thank you. I'm back to hating him. And it's the thing is, no, it's like people can make mistakes, sure. And I can move on from it. But, like, no one acknowledges that, like, wrongdoing was done to her. So until we acknowledge it and at least apologize, we'll never make it right because, like,

you've ruined her. I just want to say everybody in the house is Lexi an apology, not just Jesse. I agree. I agree completely. Loving Sabrina and Ben. And, like, Ben being so giddy. Oh, that was weird. Like, why is he so personally invested in Weston, Sierra?

Is it because Sierra and Sabrina are becoming. friendly and he's excited about him and Wes, like maybe double dating. Like, don't you feel like the two of them are a little too personally like invested and excited in the two of them? Oh, maybe I miss X. I was doing some like personal admin on my computer during the soft bar opening. But I, my take was just like Sabrina, like is just enthusiastic in general. Yeah.

And does really like Sierra. So, you know, West is his buddy. So like he's just down for, I think he's just down for whatever Sabrina says is a good idea. Okay. You know. Okay. What a weird one that guy is.

Like, came on like Bachelor of Australia, like. Well, so a lot of people, just based on the timeline, there is a conspiracy going around that like him and Sabrina like weren't seeing each other before. But just like to get himself on the show and like to be a little bit more attractive to viewers or to the castmates. He played single and then brought his girlfriend in and now she's a full time cast member and I love her. Yeah, that doesn't bother me at all. No, do what you have to do. Yeah. But it does sound like a likely theory.

Yeah, because remember last season's Bailey got like kicked off her hiding a boyfriend. Right. Maybe she just didn't play her cards right. Or maybe like her boyfriend wasn't as interesting as Sabrina. And then Levi's like throwing a party for Bailey. I can't actually listen to you say, call her Levi. Because like I'm just like, wait, Levi's having a party. Wait, when's Levi's party?

Power Rangers theme. So like, it's like, it's like, that's where namesake becomes confusing. Yeah. But I think that's where that's like, that's the beauty. That's the beauty. Like when you like push through, that's where you get. Right. From the time of the challenging times.

Yeah. So all in all, it was actually a boring episode and week. Watchrapp and Live was like not salacious. Oh, Lindsay was wearing the, the, the, the, the horse tie. What? Yeah. Explain. Like West was on Watchrapins Live.

he wore this like horse hair tie that like was just him being quirky and it was made by this girl who's like based in chicago and that was the episode where he just like ball face line like really to everyone and turns out that the girl who makes the ties is like the chicago based designer who west was actually seeing she's one of the girls remember when amanda was saying you know and it wasn't right because obviously i was still technically married and west was still seeing other people um i don't know if he's still seeing other people but she's one of the girls people put together they found her in that she wears a tie and he wears a tie and whatever. So I guess Lindsay's just like wearing the tie. She said she's being a girl's girl. Which girl? I'm not sure actually. I guess that's tea but like it was really ugly. I could tell Andy hated it.

And it's really ugly and distracting to look at. Like it like ruined her outfit. I agree. It's like pubs. It's disgusting. It's like a horse's tail. It's disgusting. So I don't know that the point was well made, but I won't question anything Lindsay does. Mother Hubbard does.

Agreed. Yeah. Well, that is your summer house recap. That is our show. Yeah. Well, the place looks beautiful. It always does. How did we ever end without that?

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