The Toast - Love, Hockey, and Healing: Thursday, July 30th, 2026

Episode Date: July 30, 2026

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Welcome back to The Toast, and happy Thursday. It's latter half. Ladder Half energy on the day of the Thursday. It is like so simpatico energy in here, not as both wearing leggings.

Okay, cool, chill girls who drink beer. Well, it's raining. I know, this weather's like not the vibe. And as a lot of the vibe. And as, I shared earlier in the week, like I'm committed to switching it up a little bit just because I'm sick of doing the same thing every day. So yeah, I did leggings, but then I still like, I, yeah, I should have worn like a casual top, but I just like have an, I have an aversion

to casualness lately. Like, I have a, what's the opposite of a version? Diversion? No, like a fondness. A warmth and love. I love cash. I'm so casual. That's like the beer drinker in me. Always a loaf. I can't go down this road. Can we get it? You drink beer. You're not like other girls. I actually think like you guys don't get it.

But okay. We're striving to get it. You're not really getting like how chill and cool I am and how much I like sports. But okay. We also are simpatico today because we drove together. We did. We decided to save the gas, save the energy. What's so funny is I did a Q&A on my Instagram the other day because I'm an influencer.

And so many questions were why don't you guys drive together to the toast. I guess I think it's really weird. But we do different things after the show. But also. like personally, I just learned how to drive. I just got my car. Like, these things are still exciting for me. Even people ask me, like, why don't you do self-driving on your Tesla?

And it's like, I'm not sick of driving yet. No, I actually do understand why people think it's so weird. And there are a lot of things we do that, like, really, like, freak people out. And I'm like, well, you guys are the freaks, not us. I actually agree that it is, like, low-key weird of us. But it just means, like, afterwards, like, I can do, like, if I want to stop and get a coffee or like a breakfast taco. It's freedom.

It's freedom. And you know me. Like I hate doing things that I don't want to do. So like if me and Jackie are driving home and she like has to stop somewhere, like I don't want to go. No. And this morning I was going to stop and get my breakfast taco and with coffee. And she was like, oh, I was actually thinking I'm driving with you. So I couldn't go.

Yeah. So my freedom was limited. Correct. We prioritize freedom here. I don't know if you guys can say the same. But we do. That's the patriotic swirley nature. Just as free.

Free as will ever. So how did you feel driving with me? I felt relaxed. You have a nice little heat warmer. I felt good. Like definitely would do it again. Yeah, the cardboard in me obviously loves like the not using gas. I was speaking of cardboard.

Jack and I had such a fun afternoon yesterday. I've been meaning to go. So for my birthday, Ben got me this really, really beautiful Chanel bag, like King. And I did really like it. But I also wanted to see like, you know, what else they had. I wasn't intent on returning it. But I wanted to go to the store and see if there was anything else that really screamed at me. And so, of course,

I knew just this role for the job. My podcaster, influencer slash sales associate. And we went to the Chanel and East Hampton, which was just a fun outing, having like free money to spend. Yeah, that was the best part. It like wasn't new money to spend. Like the money was spent. Of course, we did end up spending like a couple hundred dollars.

And I had to get a couple things for myself. But, and not Ben, like being such a generous king. Like the bag that I picked to swap it out with was significantly less. So I was like running around the store, like looking for things just to meet my credit. They don't give you a refund. You have to exchange. So I got a bag, a new bag. a pair of sunglasses and a pair of shoes

and I of course then ended up going over the credit I had to spend $400 which killed me but basically free such cute stuff such cute stuff and I got two pairs of sunglasses like the amount I think in order of like products I use most in my life I would say like my phone is number one

sunglasses is number two it's true and you know like they say it's bad for your eyes or whatever I know I know and I'm already trying after 4 o'clock I try not to wear them I am addicted exposure therapy your irises I'm addicted to sunglasses and I try not to buy sunglasses that are like too dark now. Like I've been wearing these raybans that I think are actually really good for me

because they're like much lighter. But sunglasses are very important to me and like, you know, they're the purse of the face. So you should invest. Like more so than like jewelry you're not going to wear. And like my problem is I'm actually like very hard on my sunglasses. Oh yeah. I kind of throw them in. I always lose the case.

I like the kids play with them. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my God. We love playing with sunglasses. Yeah. So like it's like annoying to spend money. And, you know, they say that, like, designer sunglasses are made in the exact same factory as, like, Clares.

I just want to say, like, I try on sunglasses everywhere I go. You know, the surf shop, the ones that have Z supply. Everywhere sells Z supply these days. It's like Amazon and real life. I try on the sunglasses, it's not the same. No, I agree. It's not the same. I do think that, like, the logo makes it more beautiful.

No, it just, it's just not. I wish it was. I would buy cheaper sunglasses, too. But, like, sometimes, like, you need the polarized lens. That's a real thing. Totally. The polarization. A bad bear sunglasses can keep you a headache.

Yeah. Oh, and then they have to be like the right tightness. I don't like them tight. I don't like when they squeeze my temples. Uh-uh. Yeah, no, it's so personal. So all is that to say. We had a very successful shopping day,

and due to the conversation yesterday that actually inspired our next blog, which is going down tomorrow with Miss Margo. Sales Associate Folet. Jackie knew better than to ask me to be her subject because, like, sorry, I'm not trying on clothes. On camera. Like, pressure to buy.

I did that once. And it was like at my skin. Remember when we went to like Abercrombie at the mall? Yeah. And we were vlogging. And let me tell you, I still had a terrible time. So I hate trying on clothes in stores. And I certainly hate trying on clothes.

You know what blog? I just remembered that we did. That was such a sleigh. That's like similar to this one was dressing you for St. Bartz in my closet. Well, let me just tell you. Like if you're not a Patreon member, you should join and go watch that book. That's like people's favorite episode.

When I was saying at Jaggie's house and just decided to go to St. Bart's like I had to pack using her closet. And I was so skinny. Like, oh my God. It's actually insane. had amazing things for and I gave her everything and I was the best dressed woman in St. Barts like hands down. It was probably the happiest I'd ever been and it was an amazing time and an amazing blog.

The vlog is amazing. It's like it's real peek into like my closet. It's a real taste of her trip and you that trip that that blog also inspired me because your closet was like very impressive in the sense like you had clothes for 10 different women. You had literally extra small up to like post part of pregnancy. I am 10 different women. And I, every time I lose three pounds, I throw away all my big.

I'm like, ew, I don't need her. Sweeper. And every time I get big, I'm like eventually throwing away my small clothes. So it did really inspire me to like, you know, have a closet for a real woman, you know, just be a little less sweeper when it comes to my sizes. Yeah. Because when I lost all the way in on an Olympic, I was like, I'm never going back there so everything can go.

Even my expensive stuff, I got rid of everything. Meanwhile, I had a baby and I need all that clothes. Yeah. No, in this season of life through the ups and downs, I need a closet that's small through extra large. that's got your back. So that was a really fun blog. So tomorrow we are taking Margo shopping. We're going to like set a budget.

I'm going to address her. And like I'm definitely going to sort of like push. Oh, well, I always push, but like. I know you're pushing an agenda. I'm pushing an agenda. Yeah. A mature woman. A mature woman.

A mature woman's agenda. Unfortunately, I did have to agree to like since we're making Margaret do this and take time for her day. We do have to pay for her clothes? Right. Because she was like, well, do I have to pay for everything? We can like force her to film and then also like spend all this money. Do you have to pay for them?

She had to call the accounting department. Let me call cardboard. And I agree, but we have to be strict with our budget. Yes, so you'll see all the worry down. I'm thinking $500, but I know you're going to say that's not enough. I think, you're right. $500 from you, $500 from me. $1,000.

My budget was going to be $1,000. We want to have a good vlog with lots of options. Things are expensive out here. I just want to say I find myself, like, leaning a little too much into my card. Like, the cardboard joke is so funny. And like, it's like, the best thing ever. But, like, I'm like, not, I'm really not that cheap.

Like I have like cheap tendencies, of course, but I've had myself, like, leaning into it more and becoming, like, really cardboard. Just for the sake of the joke. Like, I need to come down because it's actually, like, affecting my life now. Like, what? Let me think. Just, like, I told you that thing about, like, Ben's ad. We were going to Butterfly World.

Oh, yeah. Me were going to Butterfly World, like, with Ben's parents, which is, like, this really cute, like, little butterfly exhibit. And, like, the tickets are, like, $20 or whatever. And I forget what was happening. But I was like, well, Bruce doesn't need to go. And I was like, don't make him go.

He was tired or whatever. He was tired or whatever. He wanted to stay home. I'm like, do you want to buy him a ticket? They're like, let me it's like a $20 ticket. Like you're going to be completely fine. He can go. Yeah.

So I feel like cardboard has become a self-fulfilling prophecy. And I would like to stop it dead in her tracks. Like I'm really not. You're not cardboard. No. I mean, I live an extremely lavish lifestyle. Like I'm renting a home in the Hamptons to the summer. It's true.

I need to like remember who the fuck I am. Wow. I'm not cardboard. Like you're, you sort of like made me this way. Oh my God. And I'm not. You wore it with such pride

cardboard cadets. You started like your own community. I do love like a little, like a cardboard like a cardboard kit. Like you started like Koji's cardboard corner. Yeah, Koji's cardboard corner. Yeah.

No, my cardboard cadets. And we are a strong community. So. But I just want to be open and honest with people like. Because it was a joke. I have a couple of Berkins. Like I'm not like.

It was a joke that like. I'm not broadly on a budget. It was a joke that like could have died the day that I said it. No, but it's so good. And it lived on because of you. Yeah. But I feel that I have leaned in.

I have cardboarded a little too close to the sun. Okay. Well, tomorrow's going to be really fun. Patreon.com slash the toast. Like, we're shopping with Ms. Margo. And you can see like my skills in action. Yeah. No, it is.

Even yesterday. Like the bag that I ended up taking, you completely chose. You are a very helpful person. Yeah. And I'm very encouraging. It's so funny when I was shopping with my friends. And I was saying how like whenever we go shopping, like this is my role. I encourage everyone to like buy everything.

and they were like, and does Claudia do the same? I'm like, no, she tells me a hook fat. Yeah, it's true. Also, like, I hate shopping in person. She tells me everything looks stupid. I always want to leave the store. Unless it's a store that, like, has really cozy chairs for, like, the husbands and cardboard, then I'll be like, yeah, try it on, try it on.

But I find shopping in person and in a store to be so unpleasant that I'm always dying to leave the store. I find it so invigorating. And that's why the no influencer sign, like, really, really hurt me. Because as someone who loves shopping, if I'm always, I'm not. I walked into a store and it would save like no Jews, you know. Of course. I can't go here either.

No. And it is funny not to keep, it's like the new Nicolander where we have to talk about it once a day. But this store is benefiting so greatly from all the buzz on social media. Like the influencer type of culture. The culture that they're hating on like is benefiting them so greatly right now. Like the store is packed. I've heard there have so much engagement on social media that they never had.

So it's like don't you hate the player. You hate the game yet you are the player. Funny how that works, isn't it? Funny. I thought of one more thing. Wait, they just wanted to say. Okay. Hold on.

What we go back? You were talking about. Oh, do you remember the store? Big Drop? Of course. Everyone knows that saleswoman. Yeah. There was a store in the city.

It was like an iconic Upper East Side store. I bet like it was featured on Gossip Girl. Like it was so classic. It was like on this, it was on Third Avenue. It wasn't like that. It wasn't high end, but it was so classic. Yeah. It was right next to Haru, the sushi place where everyone on the Upper East Side Aid.

It was just like a very classic place. And it was like low key expensive, like regular clothes. You know, it didn't need to be so expensive. and they had the most insane salespeople there. Woman. There was one woman. It was a company mentality. Like they, you couldn't walk into the store because people used to joke that

they used to like stand outside and pretend like they were getting sucked in. Like it was the craziest place. I actually bought a ring there once. Like when I was like 17, I'm like, what am I doing? They had, that's like the worst type of sales associate. It was such a truly like toxic. workplace. That place was crazy. Yeah. But that strip, if you were like a live. I mean scoop. Scoop. Yeah, like that four block radius was just like the place to be Atlanta Grill.

Pinkberry. EJ's. Was there pink. There's a pink berry second. No, no. That's not the same strip. Too high. Second. We're on third and it's lower. But it's like Atlantic Grill, Haru, big drop. EJ's skip. Atlantic Grill. Like those five blocks. That was probably the happiest time of my whole life. Those five blocks. That and the other thing you said before That was the happiest time Doing the vlog in St. Barts Okay, that was the happiest time in my life Sorry if it was just like had a happy life

Yeah, like The more the more than merrier The more the merrier So many moments We love happiness Yeah Yeah So that's what we were up to

I majed a lot yesterday I played with friends And then I came home and like Ben was just ready to go I've like seriously made monsters Like I'm just trying to relax And Ben's like you want to play Maj And I never thought like I would be the type of person

turning down mage games. Every day, Ben and I. We have to do other stuff too. Ben and I look at each other. We're like, Siamese. You guys are crazy. We sort of like cut out the middlemen.

Me. Much like Quince. Yes, right. No, you've cut me out. Yeah, because like, sometimes you want a mage and sometimes you don't. I know. The thing is,

I love mage more than anyone. I made in my whole personality, but it's like there is a time in place for it. And like for you guys, no, it's always the time in place. Except for after dinner. Like, that's when I'm not majing. But when you don't want to do something,

like you don't do it. But like if you guys were maging. I'm not flexible. And I personally didn't have the itch in that moment. But like my whole family is maging. Like, yeah, I'm in a mage. Right. So that's why, like, we can't really go by you anymore.

No, and I'm not upset that you guys are. And we like love Siamese. That's great. That's great. That's great. I am just a little bit more discerning about like time and place. I don't know. I don't know.

But now, like, good luck getting a time with us. I've made genuine monsters. But in a beautiful way. Yeah. This is all I wanted, like my whole life. Yeah. I always had an easy time getting Ben to play. But I've, like, wanted you and my sisters, like, to play Mahjong.

It's a four-person game. You and my sisters as if I'm not. You plus the sisters. I'm not a sister. I've always wanted, like, we grew up at a house of four-girls. It's a four, they already have. It's a four-person game. We have four girls in the house, like, perfect.

Yeah. It's my dream. Yeah, no, but now it's, it's the time. It's a reality. Mm-hmm. Except, like, it's just me and Ben. Works for me. When Margo comes, she'll play.

Oh, yeah. Miss Margo, I think she's coming today. Word on the street. Word on the street. Oh, and then the other happening of yesterday. Bruno. Bruno's annual pancreatitis flare-up has begun. Bruno only gets sick in the Hamptons.

Because he, as I've told you guys, he eats so much when we're here. There's two. You guys, Bruno is fucking enormous. Bruno is gained so much weight. There's two children. Two babies learning to eat. He, like, picks up scraps all day long. And yesterday, like, he was throwing up all day and was sick.

He obviously has mild pancreatitis, which he gets every summer because it's like this every summer. Like there's more people in the house. There's more food for him. It's like just when he's getting back to his OG weight, we go to the Hamptons. I know. Like he needs to spend the summer at a fat camp. Farm. Yeah.

I know a place. A fat camp for dogs? No, for adults. Oh. I've been to it. For dogs. I think he would love it. Because yeah, he spends like all year like, you know, trimming down.

Getting in shape and he's looking good. He comes out of year for summer and he just bulks up. And I feel bad. But you know what? Like it makes him so happy until a point and now he's sick. So he over ate to the point of like genuine. It was it was all good and fun until he made him so sick. Until he's like not feeling well.

So yeah. Oh, now Zach is like using this to be like he's not going to sleep in the bed with us anymore. I'm kind of with Zach on that. Like ever again. Ever again. He was like uncontrolled. No, last night he stepped in the crate he needed that. And he needed to sleep through tonight.

Like no co-sleeping for Bruto. But he was like, and never. And now he's not going to sleep with us anymore. That's just like that's unnecessary. I've said that. Well, that doesn't work for me. Yeah. Does Zachma like co-sleeping with Bruno?

I don't know because there's so many of us in the bed. But like Bruno's the best sleeper in my family. Yeah. Why does he get the boot? I don't know why he's the problem. I don't know either. I was like that won't work. Like that's strife o'clock.

Like if Bruno doesn't get to sleep with us, like that's... What does he get? All of his, the love that he gets in the day. Like I was like, honestly like this won't stand. He's like, it's like, it's me or Bruno in the bed. I was like, you don't see on the couch. I was like, you don't want to go there. This is a battle you're not going to win.

And last night, like, when I was like tossing and turning in the night, like, I genuinely was like, where's Brutow? But he needed to be quarantined. But he's trying to, like, use this as a going forward measure as an excuse for him to never sleep with us again. He's literally not the problem in the bed. Brutie. My feet were so cold because no one was laying on them. Prudy. I actually, like, hate one where I always, like, lays on my legs.

Like, Theo, too, it's not just where I think. Like, get off my legs. Get off. Literally. My legs. Get off. And I wish you a hearty mazel tove. You see that comment I sent you?

Yeah. I got to the mic. I didn't have a pen. Pen and paper. Ah, ah, ah. That was Claudia. Like me wishing everyone a hearty mazeltove. Like, it's insane.

And look so much muscle you have in your life. Like all because of the one wish for me. I'm a powerful, I was a powerful young girl. Your wish. For me. And look, come to fruition. Pooh-poo. It's beautiful.

Now, it is Thursday. So I think we've thoroughly like combated the allegations of PFFB. Yes. Yes, true. Of the shortening of the PFFB. We would never. We would never. Just like hide for me.

We would never. It's my personal favorite part of the show. What's your favorite part of the show? That's an amazing question. It's not really like a part. It's like when sometimes I enter like a flow state, you know, where I just can't be stopped. Okay. And that's my favorite part.

And when do you feel that that happens? The magic of turdi? Is that like it can happen anytime anywhere? Do you find more so that it happens during the stories or the PFF? I think maybe the stories. Interesting. Because it's like I enter a floathe when I can just like make fun of people. And that's what I do in the stories.

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I know, I know. Well, you could have said Ben. No, Fu. Right, right, right, right. Foo is my best friend. It's true. Such a good listener. It's probably like my favorite person to talk to Joe's because, like, the lack of, you know,

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the vibe for the stories today is sort of all over the place, but with like a little bit of fear, because I've just been seeing like people yelling at me, like about the stories. And it's so funny because they'll be like, why don't you talk about Tony Romo's DUI? Oh, wait, actually, can we? We sure can, but then I feel like if I talked about it,

people would be like, what are these stories? If you brought it up, I would have been like question mark, except that the body cam footage has gone viral. So he definitely was drunk, which is, of course, like so bad. But I guess like the cop broke a lot of protocols. Like, you can.

Maybe it's like state dependent, but you can decline a field sobriety test. And he, like, didn't know what to do. So he's like, can I call my lawyer? And they didn't let him. And I think that he definitely drove drunk. I think that it will get thrown out. The guy, like, broke a lot of rules. And it's all on camera.

I thought you were going to say, like, in the other way, like, making special treatment for Tony. No, no, no. And I don't think that the guy knew who Tony Romo was at all. And, like, Tony just kept laughing because they were like, have you ever had any head injuries? They, like, ask you that when you do the field sobriety test. And he was, like, cracking up because he's, like, a football player, like, probably with CT. He was looking forward to cracking up. Yeah, yeah.

It actually was like a, as far as like celebrity body cam footage is go, obviously, you know, the number one reigning queen is Reese Witherspoon. This is a pretty good one for Tony. Yeah, the thing is like, actually really weirdly, like Tony Romo a lot. Of course, Jessica Simpson has a lot to do with it. And you know me and my like hard line in the sand with the DUI. So this won't be as easy as like Sam Hunt, Bella Haddeed. In terms of like cutting them off for my life completely. Right, right, right, right.

Karen, it's a Karen Hugar situation. It's a Karen Hugar situation. Like I think Tony Romo is so handsome. And I love what he did with Jessica Simpson during their time together. And I think he has like a really cute wife and kids. It's like, it's actually, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

It's always insane. It's insane to drive drunk. But you sometimes like explain it away like she was young or whatever. Like you literally have like multiple children at home. Like that's insane. And you're so wealthy. And like you're in an urban area. You're in like Dallas.

Take an Uber. Yeah. I'm sorry. It's like, his is bad. Yeah. So that's what like people are. saying. So today's stories are, yeah, sort of all over the place. I'm sure people will complain. That's fine. Complaining is engagement. So feel free to air grievances in the comment section.

And they're in like no particular order, I will say, because I'm like even trying to find like, watch the lead story. And there's not like a, I mean, if you have it, I would say the lead story is that two couples from Love Island went on watchuppance live last night. Who? Is that weird? It was Bryce and Trinity, which I genuinely think like would have been enough. But I think Andy, like doesn't really watch the show. And they needed more people. And then of course, like industry plants, Carl and I were there. They were sitting on the bar stools behind Brinity and Trice. Okay. I cannot say their names. Trinity and Bryce. Oh, I see. They were sitting so far apart. It was like legit so weird. There are a couple of weird moments and

interesting moments. But all in all, I thought it was like actually rude that Trinity and Bryce didn't get their moment. Like they're the winners. You go on a press store. Like Carlin and I are three minutes old. Like if I'm Trinity, I'm annoyed. Yeah. I won. Also, this is just like kind of weird because there's a reunion coming. So they've all been like very quiet in terms of podcasts. I feel like everyone always goes on. We had Kenzie on Call Her Daddy and that was it, not even anyone else on Call Her Daddy.

And none of the other people, I feel like it has to do with that new Peacock contract that we talked about. But then why was Kenzie allowed on? Because like, they don't want to stifle everyone so much that no one's talking about it, you know? I think that they're also waiting for, I think this only helps the reunion.

And then after the reunion, everyone goes on podcasts. There's like less of an embargo on. Got it. files because like seriously Brinidad on vile files went like this is their bread and butter Brinidad on call her daddy yeah well our story was also going to be Nara Smith went on call her daddy yes she did it was like very jarring to hear her talking voice I know because it's like she's very much a performer on her Instagram as like you would probably

know you know you know I think that she a lot of people I didn't know this but I don't think a lot of people understand her schick and that that it is schick and so she learned around the podcast to like set the record straight yeah that it is satire which of course it is. She's like, I was feeling hungry, so I just made gum from scratch. And then four hours later, it was ready. Like, of course, if you're hungry. No, and you're wearing like a $10,000 caparalee dress. You're like, you can't wait four hours. No, of course. That's where we're always saying, like, media literacy is at an all-time low in this country.

And it's also, like, her content is very much like cooking videos. It's like creating content. But it's not like her life. Her day to day. That's what she said too. Like, so you can't, just because she's in the kitchen making cooking content, like you can't label her a tradwife. You don't know how she spends the rest of her Right. And I think at first, when she first launched on the scene and people didn't really get her, myself included. She was labeled a trad wife. But if you paid attention for five more minutes, I don't consider her a trad wife at all. And she pretty much went on call her daddy to tell people that. Like she does not want to be looped into this conversation. Yeah. So she's getting canon about being labeled a trad wife and what people get wrong about her. She opened up about crying to her husband about a situation where someone on her team refused to see her as anything other than a trad wife. She said, I'd be like, what is happening? Did they not know that I worked as a model? I've been working since. I've been 14, all these things, but I think I'm very, very compassionate. I understand where that can come from.

But then the more of the narrative started swelling, I was like, well, let me say something. So I remember posting this video of this morning routine. My voiceover was me being a working mom and traveling and kind of debunking all of that. But then a lot of the comments were still that narrative, and I realize that a lot of people that are very stuck in this narrative do not want to be corrected. True. Yeah. I don't really like know what she is because her videos are low-key comedy.

I would say she's really a content creator. Well, yeah, no, but I mean like what genre of content creation? Like, she's not a trad wife. She's not really like giving cooking tips. I would say cooking. She has a cookbook coming out. Yeah, I guess. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And she is giving cooking tips. Like, if you want to learn to make something from scratch. It's very, it's like hard to a practical application of policy. Yeah. But it's very like, she's creating videos that are like silo. She's not, she doesn't have a stream of stories every day, like come along with me for the day. Like, she's very much not Valerie. Farm. No, not at all. She's just friends with ballerina farm, which I think made people, like, gave

her the trad wife association even more. I would say also, like, being so young and having a lot of children, like, I think people might have used that as another reason to just assume she's a trad wife. But, like, I think she, like, makes her cooking video and then, like, lays by the pool and orders McDonald's. Like, yes, she's also Mormon, which I think also gives, like, a trad wife smell. Yeah. But she's not. Like, if you really, like, think about her life at a glance, she's, she's a, not. Yeah. And then I think even hearing her talk on this interview, even if you just saw the clips and you didn't like watch the whole episode, like it's her real self. Yeah. Her voice is so different. Yeah. She doesn't talk like that. She's like a normal voice. Yeah. Yeah. And she was wearing like jeans and a sweater.

Yeah. Not, you know, high fashion. Correct. Couture in the kitchen. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So I didn't know she was feeling so misunderstood. I felt like she kind of has like a dream career. Where it's actually like it almost benefits her to be misunderstood in the sense that, first of all, it gives her like a real sense of, like, private and public life, which is huge. And two, like, she does benefit, although she doesn't want to be called a tradwife. Like, that's the topic of the moment. And everyone's talking about you. Like, it's just, as somebody whose job it is, like, get attention and stuff, it does ultimately benefit her. Yeah. And it just seems like everyone who's called a tradwife is saying I'm not a trad wife. It's so true. So, like, who is? Who are the trad wives?

Where are the proud trad wife? Well, the thing is, like, if you're a tradwife whose name we know, you're not a trad wife because you're a working woman and you're generating revenue. You're probably making more money than your husband. So the trad wives, like the true trad wives are no names. It's true. They're your neighbor, you know? Yeah. And that's just like stay at home moms.

Yeah, people who like raise children. Traditional gender roles. Yeah, stay at home moms. I think that trad wife like is a little bit more extreme in a sense of like make everything from scratch and like they do, you know, granola type have the chickens. Yeah, but like you say that's a bad thing. No, no, no. technically I guess anyone who is a traditional wife and like makes dinner for their husband every night and raises the kid.

And doesn't work. It doesn't work. We would not know who they are. Correct. That's true. Essentially, like nobody's a trad wife. Nobody's a trad wife in this conversation that we're having. Right.

Yeah. It's just like it's so weird. People get so like bogged down by the label of trad wave. And then they're like, it's like influence. I'm not an influencer. I'm not an influencer. Exactly. What's wrong with being an influencer?

What's wrong with being a trad wife? That's exactly what I was saying yesterday that like these female dominated spaces are just like always getting. negative connotations. Like, Tradwife has a negative. Like, I'm sorry, nobody wants to hear me,

but like, I am right about that. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Um, also, I personally, like,

I'm over the Tradwife conversation. I just feel like it's not a coherent conversation. We're not hearing one another. No one knows what they're saying. And it's so divisive amongst women.

Like, we're just like hating people who like live different lives in us and make different choices. And I don't think it's good for us. I don't. I really don't. I'm not a hater.

No, me neither. Like you want a girl boss to the son, Sleigh Mama Sleigh, send me a paycheck. If you want to do like legit nothing all day, like Slay Mama Sla, I don't know. Have you heard about AHAVat Eva? Oh, I have. But wait, but you're saying legit nothing again, wrong. Sorry, no, no.

But I'm saying even if you, like, let's say like, no, I'm sorry. If you want to do legit nothing all day, I have a problem with that. Okay, fine. No, you're right. I have a problem with that. No, you're so right. Not me, like, exposing my own massaging by saying is doing nothing all day. That's not what I fucking meant.

If you want to not work and raise children, cook, tend to your husband. Homemate. seriously no problem with that like zero and you know someone argue it's harder than 90% 100% like I feel like I don't even know what to call myself because I'm very much like a stay-at-home working mom like I do genuinely half and half and I don't know which I would prefer to like I prefer to be home all day if you had to choose one I would prefer to be home all day but let me tell you it's like it's so hard yeah it is so hard um you know about a havedeva has she made it to reals she has it's rage bait now it is what did it start out

It was just genuine. She's like this 19-year-old girl. She's married. And she was like, hi, I'm 19. I don't have a degree. I don't have a job. I cook for my husband. They don't have kids.

She's like, I cook for my husband. And her whole life is like her husband, her husband, her husband. And the video, she was a very small content creator. The video went so viral. Of course, like, it started, you know, conversations amongst everyone. Like, she went private. She's super young. I started to feel, like, really bad for her.

And she just, like, kind of shut down. And then she came back, like, a week later. And I'm so curious, like, what her strategy was going to be. And she has taken on this, like, very much rage baiting. She does live this lifestyle. And, like, people think it's crazy. But now all of her videos are, like, come with me to lick my husband's ass. She's really extreme just to pick people off.

And it's funny now. But, like, but it is an outsized version of her reality. Like, she is 19. She doesn't work. She just sort of, like, literally cooks her husband all day and, like, dresses her husband. And it's like, my husband, my husband, my husband. And, of course, like, you could argue both sides. Like, it's crazy.

or it's like sweet like it's just I'll say I think I saw the original video I didn't the original video I've not been able to get through a whole video I don't enjoy the content Me neither Like I just

I saw one of her like making sourdough And like rage baiting about like some shit Yeah and I was like This isn't like enjoyable for me No me neither But it was like the perfect time for her video To go viral because everyone was like Talking about yesteryear and it's like

I'm personally so over this conversation Like we're just obsessed with what other women do And also like I I want to see like real. You know, people like, I don't want to see your fake like, oh, I'm making this like big stupid cake because my husband said he wanted this. Like, I just like, I want to see people like doing like, you know, making life beautiful. And it's not taking them all day. Like in the in between. You know what I mean? Like that's what we're all trying to do. We're all busy. We're either work or

have kids. And it's like, but you still want to make dinner. So like I'm interested in really, you want to make your home beautiful. Like I want to see people who can accomplish not every, but like most of everything, you know, and that's very aspirational. Inspiring, yeah. You know? Yeah. I'm just like so over this conversation. Like, it's tired to me at this point.

It's like when people were like, I hate the word moist. It's like, it's tradwipes. I can't, it's like, it's actually becoming like boring conversation to me. I agree. And it's also like it's not actually like. It's not good for women. No, but it's what everyone is saying is does not make sense because none of these people are trad wives.

And if they were like I wish you a hearty mazzled hove. Extremely hardy. Are you ready for our next story? Mm-hmm. Some memoir news. Angela R. White. The artist formerly known as Black China is announcing her new memoirs.

It's called Sober Mine, Letting Go of Black China and Living My Face. I love this. First of all, I had literally forgotten about Black China, which is just a testament to how well she's doing. Her journey is so inspiring. Like, I actually think that this book will change lives. I would love to learn, like, how she did it.

Like, she really turned her life around completely. It's very rare to see people like truly change in the public eye like so holy. And she did that. And I think that of course there'll be interesting tidbits in there about the Kardashians and like, you know, I think that while she was struggling a lot, they did pick up a lot of the responsibilities when it came to dream. And I think now, even like the whole lawsuit thing like is awkward. I am curious like what her feeling about them is because like they did support her, like maybe not in ways that she thought at the time, but like now in hindsight, when she couldn't really be there, yeah, they did do a lot.

My only, like, concern with the book is, like, it sounds like it's a little bit more, like, self-helpy and less, like, memoir. Right, like, this is what happened to me. So it says, like, for years, people knew me for headlines, opinions, and assumptions, but now they'll have the opportunity to hear directly from my heart. So, Remind, is not just a story about where I've been. It's about who God helped me become. There were times I felt broken, lost, ashamed, and I would never.

never get another chance. I know what it feels like to have people judge you for your worst moments while never seeing your heart. This book is proof that no matter how far you fall, healing is possible. No, I mean, I love, but you're right. Like, hopefully it's like pulling from her own experience. Yeah. But regardless.

I think she will have to tell her whole story in order to like get to the part of like the healing and the faith. So we'll get those years like from her POV. I'm curious what the status is of like. their relationships. The co-parenting with Rob. Mm-hmm. I feel like you could tell for a while that Dream was like always with the Kardashians.

Just because they share so much and like literally every picture, every sleep over, Chloe's house. Chloe says, um, it doesn't appear to be that way so much anymore. Anything for her kids. Like she does it for three. For Dream. Yeah. Like if she's getting something like, I don't know. It's always three of them.

It's true. It says if she has three. Yeah, it is. And when she had her necklace, like she had like T for True, Tatum, and she had a D for dream. And she got a lot of shit for that. But at the time, I think she really was, like, taking on so much of the parenting responsibility. No, and it's like, if Dream is always in her house and, like, she's wearing a necklace with the two kids, like, it's for Dream.

Of course. And it's like, sure, maybe people will have something to say about it. But, like, I think Chloe only cares what Dream thinks about it. Yeah. I don't know if it doesn't appear to be, like, that extreme anymore. I know they do include Dream and stuff on, like, cousins stuff, of course. But it doesn't look like she's, like, living at Chloe's house. Would we even know?

Because, like, we don't follow them, like, as Chloe doesn't share so much on social media. But she still shares a lot. Like, I've had the kids, too. And we haven't had a new season in a while. We haven't had a new season. So I don't really know. I just, like, hope that, you know. And I just feel like the last time I saw Chloe do something I, like, remember thinking, like, oh, it's three.

Right. No, it was three for a while. Yeah. I guess we'll find out the memoirs. But this sounds really good. You know what? I heard. I need to look this up that Madison Beer has a memoir.

Coming out or already out? Already out. I think we should read it. I actually, like, want. Memoirs of a beer? To just confirm that. That's what I mean when I say, like, the strangest career of all time.

Well, you know, Miley Cyrus also has miles to go. I feel like it's like a miles to go sort of vibe. Like a young adult. No, no, no. That's her story. It's her story, but it's like, they're short. Like, you know, Madison Beer. The half of it.

A memoir. Oh, it looks moody. 4.16 on Goodreads. That's really good. Would me the synopsis? I will. It came out in 2023, so like relatively relevant. A memoir from singer of songwriter Madison Beer,

chroneling the past decade of her life spent in the spotlight, the ups, the downs, and the in-betweens that you won't see on social media. Discovered at 12 years old, Madison Beer was one of the first artists to have her entire life documented online. Over the past decade, she has navigated the spotlight as a child through her teenage years and now as a young woman in her 20s. In the half of it, Madison pulls back the curtain to show the behind the scenes of her journey from reckoning with mass hate online and the time her private pictures were leaked to battling suicidal thoughts while making her highly acclaimed debut album,

life support, and her recovery since then. I kind of want to read it. Yeah, she doesn't look like a crazy story. 176 pages, very reasonable. So could you. I'm okay. You like love her. I do.

And I feel like I know. No, I feel like there's like a, I saw a clip of her talking on a podcast about like when her label dropped her and everyone, and her, everyone dropped her. Was that what she went on color daddy? Why did everyone drop her?

That's what I mean. I think she was like locally blackballed because of like the whole Justin Bieber Bueber's Spruder braun thing. That's just like theory people left. No, but it sounded like she was canceled. Like in a day, everyone dropped her. So that's a cancellation, not just like a, we are slowly. disassociating from you.

Perhaps it had something to do with like, she did have, when she was super young, I got like nude photos leaked and like maybe, like now you would never drop a young girl for having like her privacy invaded. But back in the day it was like, you're a slut. Yeah. I kind of want to read it.

I think I will, but I also have to read the next redhead book. I was watching Josh Herbert. What's the name? Oh my gosh. This is what I wanted to say. I finished off campus. Oh my God. Leading story. That's what I meant to share with the class.

And what a show. What a show. What a show. I seriously was crying during the the pop showcase. I know. Like, it was so good. The show was so amazing.

I don't know what's wrong with the world that it was like so misrepresented in terms of like, are you watching off campus? I have to watch him private. Like, yeah. There's really like nothing that crazy about it. It has a lot of heart. Considering how much nudity and pornography we are accustomed to. Like this was really not anything different.

So much heart. Like I love so many characters. And I really like, I wasn't loving Allie. in the beginning of the show. And I was like, I will definitely be missing next season. Season two. By the end, like, Allie and Dean. I love Dean.

Allie and Dean are everything to me. Agreed. This Hunter Davenport Runch is just so crazy. I know. And then Hannah and Garrett, like, I'm so happy for them. I really needed them to, like, stop being broken up. Of course. It was, like, very painful to watch him be broken up.

It was. The only thing I didn't love was, like, their reunion scene after the pop showcase. Like, I didn't like what he was saying. What did he don't remember? He was just saying, like, it was actually kind of, I'm icky because he was like, because her song was like, the girl I am today. Right. It's not who I was.

Because of the girl I used to be. So it's all about like the girl she is. And he was like, the girl that you are. Like, I want to be more like the girl that you are. And like, I was like, you want to be a girl? Cracking up that you noticed that. I guess, yeah, that is like a weird thing to say. I was just waiting for him to be like, I love you.

Like, I need to be with you. Yeah. I love you. That's all I need to hear. Not like, I want to be like that girl. I want to be like you. Ew. I guess. Don't be like, be your own.

I was just like so excited to see them together. Like I wasn't even listening. No, because I just like needed them to say like the obvious, which is like, I love you so much. Like I only want to be with you. Not like I want to be a girl like you. I'm seriously cracking up. I'm so glad you like the show. Like seriously.

I truly loved it. I think there's something wrong with everyone in my life that there was like a huge conversation. Like would she like it? Jackie, you are seriously like impossible to predict. Like you, I love that for me. You can't put you in a box. Like don't blame up. us, okay, don't.

Zone. Okay, you know what? I like being impossible to predict. You can put me in a box. I would agree with that. Great. But, of course, I loved the show. It had so much heart and soul,

and it was just, it was gripping stuff. It was gripping stuff. And like, Garrick Graham, like, you get it. I do, but for me, the show, it was, like, my takeaway from the show wasn't like, Gar-Gram, Gagram, Gagram. Oh, my name is. My takeaway from the show is, like, love and hockey.

Love wins, yeah, and healing. Of course. There's a lot of healing that needed to be done that she did at the pop showcase. I'm glad she didn't win the pop showcase because then it would have been too long. Realistic. But her song was...

And also you can't win a competition you entered five minutes before. Yeah. Her song was really good. When she like was doing her pop showcase and... Which was so racy of voice by the way. Yes.

Yes. And she like looked out and she saw all of them like sitting in the front row. In the front row. Like not just Garrett but like she has all these friends now. She had like two friends at the start of the show. And she was just like loser. Yeah. Yeah.

And like, Jules is her friend. And like, it was just this testament to like the girl she is today is because of the girl she used to be. A thousand percent. It was so beautiful. Oh, I love. I'm so glad to hear that. So that was my only note. Like the reunion scene didn't give what it needed to give.

That's fair. Looking forward to season two. Of course. I'm sat for Allie. We'll miss it for the world. And I love Dean. Me too. I really do.

Me too. De Laurentis. Dean De Laurentis. And Bo, his friend is apparently a football player. Beau Maxwell. In real life? No, no, no, like in the show. That's why he's not on the hockey team.

Oh, he might be from, like, in this universe, like another franchise where the woman who wrote the book has, like, a bunch of football books. Do you know what I mean? Got it. Well, Dean's friend, Bo, Joanna's brother. Like, he's not a hockey player. God, I didn't get the sense that he was. I thought he was, like, a random.

But the fact that he's football makes me think that there's another series coming about the football players. Okay. And then also, like, I can't get over the injustice that they lost all the games that they played all season. And confusion because Garrett's suspended for four games. he's ineligible for all the games that he played earlier in the season. But after these four games he can play again?

Yeah. But he did the practice with the Bruins. That's him getting off like Scott Frey. No, but he did the practice with the Bruins. Like if they said he's not eligible to be a college hockey player because he did the practice with the Bruins, why can he play again in four games? I don't know. So I'll have to talk to the NCAA.

I don't run the league. I'm sorry. I'll talk to the NCAA about that. Yes, please do. So yeah. So I have those are my thoughts. Are you ready for our next story? which seriously, like, I didn't know this was happening, but I needed to know. What?

Jacob Tremblay. Oh, of course. Is playing the Unabomber, Ted Kaczynski, and first look at troubling new Netflix film. So Ted Kaczynski is the Unabomber, and he will be played by Jacob Tremblay. He will be starring as the infamous domestic terrorists who coordinated and carried out a series of mail bombings that persisted for nearly two decades in Netflix's forthcoming film out this September. Now, you guys might be wondering, like, why this is a series of, a big deal. And if you don't know who Jacob Tremblay is, he's the little boy from Room

and the little boy who literally stole the hearts of Americans many years ago. He's continued to work in a couple of capacities, but I think he's maintained like a pretty decent childhood. He's a wonder, but like a couple of movies. He doesn't know. He does a lot of movies, but like he's a kid so he's like also, he's not a celebrity. Right. But this, I think this is like his foray

into adulthood. This is the role of a lifetime. Yeah, because the movie, this movie zeroes in on his early years, including his time as a student under controversial Harvard professor, Henry Marie. So the Unabomber went to Harvard and I think there was like a bunch of like really like twisted experiments conducted at that time at Harvard, which is like a lot of people don't know about that time. So it like focuses on what happened there. The Unabomber included. But like it was just like a crazy thing that happened. But I'm a little fearful because I'm reading like the description. That it's like sympathetic towards the Unabomber. I'm kind of afraid to bring this up But are you familiar with what's going on with Lindsay Clancy?

I see headlines from the New York Post. It's like really upsetting. So she's a woman on trial because she killed her three kids. Like confirmed. It's not like a yeah. So obviously like guilty. But when you learn about like what I know it's like not me giving sympathy to like the woman who killed her kids. But like what she went through like she experienced something called postpartum psychosis.

And she went to like a hundred doctors who like overprescribed her. She was on like so many antidepressants. she literally went to her doctor said, I'm hallucinating, I don't know what's real. And like, all these doctors, like, genuinely failed her to the point where, like, she was in psychosis and she killed her three kids. Like, so I don't even know how to feel about it because it's like when you hear about what her experience was up until that point, you're like, well, like nobody helps her. And like her husband's on trial and it's like, where are you? Like, and but then she also like killed her three kids. So it's like, where do we go from here?

I don't know. That's crazy. It's a really crazy story. Yeah. That's, I don't know what's going to happen. Like, like she did kill them. Yeah. but there is this insanely lengthy medical record of her, like, seriously, like, not being okay for an extremely long time.

Yeah, and sometimes, like, when people, even if they kill, like, they're, like, mentally unfit. Right. So it's like, do you get off for that? I don't know. I don't know what's going to happen. That's really sad. It's really crazy. I don't really, like, want to get so into it because it's, like, very upsetting.

Yeah. It says here, like, the movie is the tale of a young man who feels increasingly disenfranchised by society and decides to take up violence as a means of revenge. Oh, so it's giving, like, Unabomber origin story. Yeah, like feeling bad for him. Right. How many people did he kill? Like hundreds? Dozens, I think.

It's told across two Thailand. The creation and then the capture of him. You know, like Unabomber is this sort of blind spot for me, even though you did recently explain to me like who he was. And so I know a little bit more, but maybe this Jacob Tremblay movie is like what I need. Also, I am going to watch because also another blind spot for me is the Idaho murders. But apparently Netflix just released an amazing documentary about it. So I think I'm going to watch that.

Yeah. Because the trials are happening or coming up. Brian. Coenberg? I thought the child's over. Oh, is it? Yeah. All right, so I guess I'll find out on the documentary.

Yeah, what happened. Yeah. Tremblay said it felt crucial for him to paint Kaczynski as a real person. Ugh, Jacob. Not you being a Unabomber sympathizer. I wanted him to feel real. I guess, yes, you're playing a human being. You want them to feel real.

But, like, I don't know, it's giving a little bit too much, like, pass for the Unabomber. And you know that the Unabomber is, like, sort of, like, becoming, like, a heroic figure to people. Oh, God, like, Saddam Hussein. Okay, so we'll be watching the Unabom or Toast Movie of the Week. I think so. Yeah. Toast movie of the week. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Number four. No. We've actually done like a lot of stories within the stories. Are you ready for our next story? I will be ready for our next story. Because it is our next story that's brought to you by Amazon Music. Claudia, I was looking at my phone this morning and realized my home screen is embarrassing.

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You're welcome. Our next story, Ben Affleck won the elusive $1 million prize on who wants to be a millionaire. What? Would you have gotten the winning question? Okay, let's see. I'm so bad at trivia, especially when they give options. Like, it almost makes it harder. Ben Affleck and Jeopardy champion, Jamie Ding won the elus.

of one million prize on who wants to be a millionaire. And Wednesday night's episode of The Hit Game Show, they answered the 15th. I did not know the show was still on. But let me tell you, I have such a warm and fuzzy feeling about the show. It's so nostalgic. It's so nostalgic. And it's like very straightforward. Like who wants to be a millionaire? Like yes, please.

What are the questions? They answered the 15th and final question correctly to take home the grand prize, which will go to Ben's Foundation, the Eastern Congo Initiative. Oh, that's nice. So the episode began with them only having two questions left. First was the $500,000 question, which was, what achievement

occurred just two months after a New York Times article said it wouldn't happen for one million to 10 million years. Okay. These are your choices. The first airplane flight, splitting the atom, cloning a mammal, and the polio vaccine. Okay, the New York Times was wrong. Nothing like putting them on blast. But what would the New York Times, like, historically be wrong about? Like, read it again, the last four.

the first airplane flight no i feel like that's not the answer splitting the atom like i don't know when the atom was split but like was the new york times up and running then i feel like no what is splitting the atom i don't know i know it's like a huge medical scientific advancement cloning a mammal can we do that still i guess okay what was the fourth one polio vaccine no i don't think they would say that like a vaccine was a million 10 million years away i guess like maybe splitting the atom? But what was the third one? Cloning a mammal.

Okay, I'm going to go like B or C. I really don't know. It's hard. So I'll tell you how it went down. They initially thought it was the first airplane flight, both of them. Ben said, I only remember this because it was a time in my life where I spent time looking up examples that the press got things wrong.

Yeah, just randomly. And I sort of vaguely in my subconscious remember the Times and the Wright brothers and that whole thing was like 1905. Oh. Three or four or something. Then they phoned a front or they decided to use the 50-50 lifeline to eliminate two answers. Oh, my God. Okay.

Leaving them to choose from splitting the atom and the first airplane. Oh, so A and B. A and B. And the correct answer, which they got correct, was the first airplane. Oh, my God. Okay, obviously I got that wrong. Then the million dollar question. Okay, so I would have been out, but continue.

In an annual Thanksgiving tradition, all but which of, of these have been the names of turkeys, pardoned by a U.S. president. Okay, I'm never going to get this. Who would ever know this? Peanut butter and jelly, tater and tot. Are there two turkeys?

Why are they all and? Turkeys, I guess they pardoned two turkeys. Tater and tot. Mac and cheese and spaghetti and meatball. Okay, read them again. Peanut butter and jelly. Tater and Tot, Mac and cheese,

spaghetti and meatballs. So I was thinking like, obviously something that could be Thanksgiving food, which is tater and tot, right? You could have... I would say actually, Tater and Tad are the only ones that are like,

there's not already an and end in Tater Tadot. There's mac and cheese, spaghetti meatball. Peanut butter and jelly. Oh, I was thinking like, things on your Thanksgiving table could be. Tater tot. What was the second, third one? Mac and cheese.

and jelly. Yeah, not peanut butter and jelly, but also not... Spaghetti meatball. But you could make spaghetti meatball from turkey, or so is that rude to name him at? Does that... Like rubbing it in. Yeah, because that's the only meat product. Oh, that's good.

Let's go with that. Spaghetti and Meatball, final answer. Even though I hate a turkey meatball. I am going to go with... That's really good. That's an outlier. Yeah. But so is Tater and Tater and Taut.

Although I don't think that there's a rhyme or a reason. I think that like three of them just were and one of them wasn't. You know what I mean? If I had turkeys, like, I might want to name them Tater and Todd. I agree. So cute. Okay, I like our reasoning for spaghetti and meatball. Let's go spaghetti and meatballs.

They phoned a friend. L-O-L-O-L. Oh, but Ding's friend didn't answer in time. Oh, my God. They took Kimmel's advice and chose spaghetti and meatballs winning a million dollars. Oh, we were right. We were right. Look at us.

We should go on. Oh, my God. There are a couple of game shows, like, I might do good at. Obviously, family feud. I would do good at. I know that I would. Who wants to be a millionaire? The questions are so hard.

I almost, anytime I've ever watched, I've, like, never even gotten one run. No, but it's like the early questions are supposed to be easier. So I would love to know what those questions were because like these two honestly, I have no clue. I would do good. I would do like decent at Jeopardy. Like when I watch her home, I get a couple. Like I'm not going to win by any means.

I'm not going to embarrass myself. Family feud, of course. Wheel of Fortune, Slay. I don't think I would do good at Family Feud. I'm really not in step with like what the masses thing. You are not in step with culture. You know, like that just wouldn't be what the survey says. A thousand percent.

Survey says, yeah, every time Jackie's on. I would be like the first person. Do you know what I mean? Like they go like, there was have like the dad like at the front or a parent. Yeah. I just feel like that's the strongest player. I would be up there. Then you're the strongest.

I watch a lot. So yeah. No. I want to like be responsible for my own self, not like what other freaks are thinking. Yeah, that's true. You can only be responsible for what you put out into this world. You know, so I just feel like I don't want to work with others. I love that.

It still makes news when someone gets all the questions, right? Like it doesn't happen a lot. Well, now it's like celebrity also. Yeah. Who remembers the game show? the wall. So good. You do. I talk about it all the time. It's literally one of the best shows I've ever seen my whole life. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? I am.

Miley Cyrus reveals that she's working on a new album. That's a love story. I believe that the reveal also shows that she got her teeth fixed. Did she say that? No, but like I saw like footage from this. I didn't know there was a problem. Well, she, I think a lot of people started having the conversation about veneers about Miley Cyrus. Like she had her snagletooth, which I loved. But of course she wanted to fix it. and she ended up getting these huge veneers

that didn't even fit in her mouth. And it was kind of like, people were talking about it a lot. It appears that she got the fixed. Oh, okay. Well, she revealed that she's working on a new album that's a love story while speaking with actress Darrell Hannah for Wonderland.

Of course, the actress Daryl Hannah from Love Story. This album is a love story, but love stories are never one dimensional. Oh, not her saying love story, like in front of Darrell Hannah. That's fucking rude. Because you know Daryl Hannah wrote a piece in The New York Times about how mad she was at Ryan Murphy

from making her look like the biggest loser ever in that show. They're always layered. There's definitely a romantic thread weaving through it all because like all of my records, it's a reflection of where I am in my life. She said the upcoming album feels especially meaningful because this feeling has stayed with me throughout multiple eras. That's something I hadn't really experienced before. A peaceful kind of love has become a theme across my last three records.

Yeah, she's been with her man's Max Marando. For a very long time. People don't talk about it because he's like not famous. They're not like interested by it. Right. But this is clearly like it for her. Amazing. Like I love that, especially with a rando.

Like that's good. Yeah. Huge. excited to hear new music for Miley. Me too. Like. It appears she's also like going back to her rock era just based on like the looks. Where is where was she last we saw her?

Something beautiful. Flowers. Yeah. Like that's like two albums ago. Flowers. Something beautiful really came and went like. Yeah. That was like more like visual.

It was a visual album. Yeah. Right. Exactly. So I don't really know. I didn't catch the visuals. So I don't know what the vibe was. I think I nailed it.

Yeah. So I would love a love story album, even though I feel like that's what Taylor is doing next. True, but like... Taylor's next album should be called Love Story. Like, because like that's like her origin song. It's like one of Travis's favorites. It's like come up in their relationship many times. It's become like the anthem of their wedding.

Yeah. Love Story. Or yeah. Or we could get like a love story sequel song, you know? It's like the sister song to Love Story. That's so cute. Yeah. The older sister song.

He's back at camp. So like they're back in the real world. I don't know if they went on like an official honeymoon or anything. but I saw this morning he was photographed. I saw at training camp. So, like, the honeymoon is over, back to work. That's good. They've had, like, a nice chunk of time, but, like, you know,

idlenessness is the devil's workshop. It's so true. Like, you need to miss your man. Yeah, you need a working man. Oh, you need a man with a job. That's actually, like, just a non-negotiable for women everywhere. Yeah. So, so that's good news.

And maybe she, like, finally has some time to herself. She can go through her picks, like, make a carousel. Right. Perhaps upload to the Instagram. Perhaps upload to the gram. Although at this point, I've just sort of come to terms with us not getting anything. That way, I can only be... Ever?

Yeah. I think that would be wrong. I agree. But if I think that, then I can only be surprised in a positive way. I can't be locked down. I think she owes it to the fans. I think she does too. The whole world has been rooting for this.

We've been through... There was a time where, like, she, like, demanded so much respect for her private life. And we all really did. Like, we understood she couldn't walk the red carpet with show. Like, we all just sort of understood these rules. But obviously when she married someone who was like not so miserable, she realized like she'd need to have all those rules. And so it's like, yeah, let us in now.

We respected it at the time. But like, now, like, it's fine. And, like, you had your wedding and you had your privacy and you've had weeks of it just being for you guys. But, like, you have millions of adoring fans who have just been, like, waiting for this and are so happy for you and, like, feed them. Us. Feed us. Feed us.

I'm speaking in the third. Yeah, of course. Well, those were the stories. And yes, I would agree that they were insanely all in the place. But I enjoyed everyone. But I feel like we covered a lot of ground. So if you're, like, going to complain about yes. Oh, you didn't cover sports.

We talked about Tony Romo. Oh, you didn't cover music. We talked about Molly Cyrus. Oh, you didn't cover art. We talked about Nara Aziz. Like, if you look at just like the description of today's episode, like you might have been like what's going on at this show. But you don't realize like. It's what's in between the lines.

There's a method. No, no, no. And it's like in between every story. We like added another story. It's true. We probably did like seven or eight today. And that's beautiful. Well, thank you guys.

emoji. emoji. You choose. Okay, I'll choose. The pen to paper emoji. where you're writing something. Why? I didn't have a pen.

I got to the mic. I was like, oh, wow. Press recall. Niche, niche reference from the episode. Well, just to make a decision, you know? Thank you guys so much for listening to The Toast and Line and a morning show we deliver the fast-f stories you need to know every Monday on YouTube. So, keep on YouTube.

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