The Toast - Love is Bland: The Toast, Wednesday, February 19th, 2025

Episode Date: February 19, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good morning, millennials. Welcome back to the chosen happy Wednesday. It is hump day. Don't forget to hump someone you love. And speaking of people that I love, it's Jackie and it's Claudia. And we are in a brand new studio. As promised, we are doing the Lord's work
Starting point is 00:00:16 and trying out all the podcast studios this area has to offer today. Some people try out all the pizza. Some people try out all the bagels, coffee. We are trying out all the podcast studios. and I feel like Goldie Rocks, because this one feels just right. I know, I'm kind of loving. We do say that everywhere we go.
Starting point is 00:00:35 I know, we did love yesterdays, we'll love todays too. The thing is, it's really beautiful to see the business of podcasting booming in such a way, and having so many options for studios, it's really beautiful. I'm loving today's setup. You know I love sitting behind a desk. I am still feeling like not my most beautiful self.
Starting point is 00:00:50 I haven't been blowing out my hair while I'm here. So the sunglasses today, they may come off, but they're on for now. She's on vacation time. She's on island time. On island time. And we have such an exciting episode. So it's Wednesday, which means the vibes are high.
Starting point is 00:01:03 We're humping someone you love. Don't forget to get your pillow, humping saddle and do just that. But we also are gonna be doing a little bit of a TV recap. Jackie and I- Endeavored. Unfortunately committed ourselves last night to watching the first two episodes
Starting point is 00:01:16 of the new season of Love is Blind, which is something that doesn't sound so crazy, right? Yeah, we do it all the time. And I don't know why it was the hardest thing I've ever done in my life. It's a show that I absolutely love. And I was actually really excited for Minnesota. I thought, you know, we'd really get to know.
Starting point is 00:01:31 The elk of Minnesotans. And unfortunately, I think we did, and I think it's not a good elk, because, oh my God, so dreadful. We will be doing, so Jack and I both watched the first two episodes, although I did watch the first five minutes of the third episode, because we finally got a reveal. And I also did see a clip of a woman.
Starting point is 00:01:47 It's definitely a spoiler for later in the season, but it's what's happening, and I'll talk about what I saw. So that'll be at the end of the show, but in case you haven't seen it yet, you can, we'll have timestamps in the podcast description and the Love is Blind first two episode season recap is at the end of today's episode during the TV recap section.
Starting point is 00:02:06 It was truly one of the worst experiences of my life, just so you know, and I hate to like always be so negative, but that is the energy I'm- I hate to always be so truthful. I hate to always be forced to speak my truth. Yeah, but there's no other way around it. Like it was really bad. Apparently it's like six episodes of pods
Starting point is 00:02:20 of nonsense about these people who really think that both liking Taco Bell like means that you should spend your life with someone? No it's almost like you asked AI to generate a season of Love is Blind that is giving like chuggy millennial everything was like oh my god I'm such a foodie like okay who isn't? I was bullied too. My dad also makes really good steak. Yeah, it was so bland. I love Christmas. So vanilla. And every time they agreed on something that was like so basic, being like, I love oxygen. The things that they agree on do not make a relationship. And they're not having deep enough
Starting point is 00:02:59 conversations. Or I hope they're having deep conversations and we're not seeing them. But they're literally showing us every time someone farts. Oh my God, I don't remember this much conversation. I think a couple things. I think it's hard to get into the later episodes of the show when we don't know why they had such established connections in the first place. So I feel like Netflix is like,
Starting point is 00:03:16 we want you guys to see how these people connected. That way when they are engaged or whatever, like there's just more, because I felt like in some of the other seasons, I'm like, we never saw them talk. What do they have in common? Like Netflix knows that people don't like tune in for the pod episodes.
Starting point is 00:03:30 It's everything that happens after that, that's more interesting. So I feel like in recent years, they've given us like two pod episodes, and it's actually really not enough for us to understand these people. So the episode, there is a perfect balance between amount of pod time we're seeing
Starting point is 00:03:43 while also retaining entertainment value. And they have so taken it too far this time. And then it's also about dollars and cents watch time. They're just trying to beef up these episodes. They have more streaming hours. I fucking love Mexico. They're going to Honduras. I love Honduras.
Starting point is 00:03:58 When they all meet in person. When they're on island time. And they have to like sleep in the same bed as an actual stranger. And when they meet their fellow castmates and they're looking them up and down and talking. Best part. Best part, more honeymoon. Less pods, but I understand that the pods
Starting point is 00:04:12 are the foundation of the show. There is a way to do it. They're not doing it well. So we'll get into the TV recap. Yeah, that wasn't it. We will get into it. And then other than that, it's just another great morning commuting with my girl,
Starting point is 00:04:24 going to work, something really funny happened this morning. You guys, okay, so I thought we were recording at 10 30, not 10 o'clock, so I got here like super early, and I was just, I got a pargy parking spot, like right out front, and there was a spot right in front of me. So I was like, I wasn't holding it, but if anybody came by, I would have been like,
Starting point is 00:04:40 my sister is really special, like please, she needs this spot. She would have said seats taken. So Jackie arrives. I'm like, pargy. And she's like, she hesitates. She looks at the spot. She's like, I don't know, in a parallel park.
Starting point is 00:04:52 It's a little small. And as she's hesitating, somebody in actually the same exact car as you. White Model Y. White Model Y Tesla comes and takes the spot. So this thing that I worked so hard to. I still would have had to turn around. I was on the wrong side of the street.
Starting point is 00:05:02 So even if I didn't hesitate, he still would have gotten this spot. And I'm happy for him. He who street, so even if I didn't hesitate, he still would have gotten the spot, and I'm happy for him. He who hesitates is lost. I love to see a model Y thriving in this world. He crushed that parking, by the way. He didn't even have to readjust the parallel, that's really crazy.
Starting point is 00:05:13 So then I drive a little bit more down the street, and there's a beautiful spot, pargy spot, just across the way from Coders. I think, let me tell you my POV, okay? Because I'm on FaceTime, I'm fixing my makeup, I'm just making, I knew you were gonna take a while to park wherever you went And I'm like damn she's really taking a long time So we look at my rear-view mirror and I see you're standing in the street behind me and your car is parking itself
Starting point is 00:05:34 And I'm like damn these new cars are really sick They get and the car is moving and twisting and turning and getting into the spot I'm like that is really cool to see like in action. I know that there are cars that park themselves. You've heard about such things. I've never seen it. And I'm like, that's my sister, the ingenue, picking herself up by her bootstraps and using the self-parking.
Starting point is 00:05:55 And I'm still watching, and then I see somebody's hands on the wheel and you're standing out on the curb. I'm like, wait, I think there's a person in her car. There was a person in my car, let me tell you what happened. So I found a cute parking spot, perfect for me, right in front of the office. And I've never parallel parked by myself before.
Starting point is 00:06:15 So I had no clue what I was doing. And I was like, beep, boop, beep, boop, like inching. Beep, beep, boop, beep, beep, boop. Like really struggling to get into this parking spot. There was a woman on the curb with her two kids. And at a certain point she sees me struggling and she's trying to give me like, she's like, like really struggling to get into this parking spot. There was a woman on the curb with her two kids and at a certain point she sees me struggling and she's trying to give me like, she's like, pull up here. Okay, and then she went behind my car.
Starting point is 00:06:30 She's like, drive back here. And I really wasn't making any headway. And then she comes around to the door. She's like, get out of the car. And she got in my car and she parked in. And of course I'm like, wait, is this woman gonna steal my car? But she left her kids on the side.
Starting point is 00:06:42 She left her kids. So like, I think it was fair collateral. I'm watching the kids. You have my car? But she left her kids on the side. She left her kids. So like, I think it was fair collateral. I'm watching the kids. You have my car. She's parking the car. She parked my car and they moved on with my day. It was a little scary when she was in there. She like, and then she pulled up.
Starting point is 00:06:53 When we were coming in from the back, I'm like, she's driving away. Literally. But no, she did the damn thing. No, it was mothers helping mothers. Women supporting women. I love to see it. Yeah, and she knew,
Starting point is 00:07:03 I told her it's my first time parallel parking, like duh. And her kid was like, when she was done, she was like, good job trying to drive. She said that to you, the kid? That's what the kid said to me. Good job trying to drive. By the way, kids are one thing and it's honest. And you did try.
Starting point is 00:07:19 And she's actually being nice saying good job because she didn't even do it. Sweet girl. It should have been bad job trying to drive. Well, tell her I had a commute. I did a good job all this way. She doesn't know you're a commuter. Yeah, so I'm gonna learn how to parallel park.
Starting point is 00:07:31 My car does have like a parking assistance feature. I've never used it. Maybe that's tomorrow. My car does have it as well, my car at home. And what does that do? Does it beep boop bop in? It parallel parks. And having said that the one time I tried to use it,
Starting point is 00:07:45 it said feature not available. So I don't know why. Classic feature not available. Also these new cars have 360 degree wheels, like the Hummer that you rented. And like, so the wheels can just like turn towards the curb and you can skrrt in. That's the kind of car I need.
Starting point is 00:07:59 I never really understood why wheels couldn't go like perpendicular to the car. Yeah, they just did it with luggage. And look, we're all like rolling through the airport. You're right what a waste suitcase did for the 360 degree wheel somebody needs to do. GM needs to do for the car. I think I saw a video of like a bunch of Mercedes's doing donuts in Vegas with their 360 degree wheels. I think the Hummer does it. I think maybe the Cybertruck does it. Maybe I should call Jerry and say Gerald.
Starting point is 00:08:24 What if you just call Jerry up? Every like something happens in my life? I'm Jerry I think we need a Cybertruck and they don't pay Jerry enough for that. No, they don't like Jerry is also my therapist Jerry Jerry Jerry haven't heard from him in a while I feel like I always like for some reason the fact that Jerry Springer passed away is a fact that doesn't stick in my brain. And I find myself constantly being reminded of it and getting sad all over again. That's hard. And I'm sorry that his Netflix documentary didn't take off.
Starting point is 00:08:51 I saw it on the homepage and I was like, well, if everybody starts talking about it, I'll watch it. I didn't hear a word. Not everyone can be Martha. Everybody deserves, Jerry deserves more than that. But I also feel like with Jerry, like Jerry is who meets the eye. Like there's not a subplot, there's not all these things that you need to know about Jerry, like we thought who meets the eye. Like there's not a subplot.
Starting point is 00:09:05 There's not all these things that you need to know about Jerry, like we thought he's a good guy. I think he is a good guy. There's not all this stuff that we don't know. You know, I hate to be so obnoxious, you know, like every time- You went to the Jerry Springer show once. Every time we talk about a celebrity, I'm like, oh yeah, I just ran into him.
Starting point is 00:09:18 You know, I saw Connor Kennedy and his military mates at Zero Bond, but I did meet Jerry Springer. And so I feel- But not at Zero Bond. Not at did meet Jerry Springer. And so I- But not at Zero Bond. Not at Zero Bond, at the Jerry Springer show. So that's what makes this story unlike any other story. Yeah, but I know it sounds like, well, Claudia,
Starting point is 00:09:30 anybody could just go to the Jerry Springer show and why are you special? And that's true, anybody can. But not everybody gets invited back to Jerry's office because the social media manager listens to our podcast. And Jerry was so nice. He talked to me and my friends. You know, you forget, because he plays this character.
Starting point is 00:09:44 He's just kind of this like old Jewish guy, you know? He gives. You know, you forget, because he plays this character. He's just kind of this old Jewish guy. He gives very much like, you know, cat's diner energy. Yeah. And he said, congrats on all your success. I hope I never see you on my show. Have a good day.
Starting point is 00:09:55 And I said, thank you, Jerry. And you honored that wish. Look at me, thriving. Like, and now it's too late. They need to rip. They couldn't even go on his show. You know how they like are how they keep old franchises alive with new Ryan Seacrest on?
Starting point is 00:10:09 Now, I guess it's called the Jerry Springer Show, so I don't know who else could do it besides Jerry, but I would love to see a millennial. Maybe Jerry O'Connell, and they call it Jerry. Wait. That's a brilliant idea. They don't ask me enough for my thoughts. And I feel like the networks are always looking
Starting point is 00:10:23 for where to put Jerry O'Connell. Yeah, no, he's like ready, willing, and able to be on television. RWA. And no one to ask me, because I would just tell them that straight up. People don't wanna hear hard truths, Jackie. No, and nobody wants to ask for help.
Starting point is 00:10:37 They just think they know what the viewers wanna see, and they don't, and that's why we got six episodes of Pods. That's pretty much comes back to the six episodes of pods. I will say, I'm having a lot of trouble sleeping at this stage of my pregnancy. Last time I threw up in my sleep and like woke up choking on my own vomit. Acid reflux.
Starting point is 00:10:51 I also woke up three times to pee. I woke up with heartburn. Like it was just a never ending evening. But I did wanna thank Love is Blind because the first few hours of sleep were like truly dreamless, peaceful, wonderful, because they gave me nothing. They were so bored, you were lulled into a deep sleep. A dreamless sleep. They didn't stimulate my brain at all.
Starting point is 00:11:11 No, that's sometimes what happens if I'm reading a book or I'm watching a TV show. When I am sleeping, I am in whatever that is. But when it's a good TV show. When it's even when it's anything remotely engaging and stimulating. But yeah, with this and then like the next morning, it's like the first thing I'm thinking about. With this, I'm like, hmm, what did I do last night? No, no, I have this terrible feeling
Starting point is 00:11:32 that something awful happened to me last night. And when I woke up, I was like, why is there this heaviness on my chest? And it was because I spent three hours watching the worst television I've ever watched and then I have to wake up and talk about it. Yeah, I spent legit four hours and I got through an episode and a half.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Feel free to spoil anything, like I could give a rip. I know, the best part of Love is Blind is like catching up and then going on social media and reading the funny tweets and people were being so funny on Twitter. And usually I don't do that until I'm fully caught up, but I actually don't care. No, I don't care. Yeah, so, oh, good luck getting me
Starting point is 00:12:02 to remember anyone's names. I did write it down because I was like, short guy is Daniel. Of course. Love him. Ben Platt. Wait, who's Ben Platt? Alex? Yeah, Alex. Who was bullied?
Starting point is 00:12:13 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he was bullied for not being Ben Platt. That's actually such a good call. He was literally Ben Platt. Oh my God, that's funny. So yeah, I think they all have like little monikers and there's ways to remember them. The girls, it's a little tough. Really, I think the guys is harder.
Starting point is 00:12:27 I don't know. The girls, like who's the girl? David Daniel. Who's the teacher who's like trying to get with that guy who's an asshole and it's like the teacher and the asshole do not go together. I wrote her name down. And then she's always wearing like with her breasts, like a V neck. She's always wearing cleavage.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Okay, so Dave is talking to Molly and Lauren. Lauren is her name. Okay, her name is Lauren. That's hard to remember. Oh, and nobody has like a special name, you know? It's like Laura Ashley Sarah. And I didn't remember Molly's name, but of course she's the redhead with the bangs.
Starting point is 00:12:57 Yeah, I like when people look different, you know? Like Madison and the other, like they all look the same. And then there was the girl who was laying there in the jeans with blonde hair. Sarah, maybe a Sarah. Sarah, blonde girl. She's talking to Ben who's very religious and her sister's gay.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Yes, her sister is gay. That's a good way to remember her. Yeah, no, it's like nobody has anything like individualistic about them. And then there's the girl who's a dancer, not a singer. The NBA dancer? Yeah, I don't know her name, girl who's a dancer, not a singer. The NBA dancer? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know her name, but she's a dancer.
Starting point is 00:13:28 Yeah, I said, these are my notes. That's memorable. Devin likes Britanni. Britanni is not the dancer. No, Britanni is a former basketball player. And Britanni is also B-dot. Yes, and Devin is also D-buck. Devin likes the other girl who's an NBA dancer.
Starting point is 00:13:43 I didn't write down her name. But this is not The Love Is Blind recap. I didn't write down her name. But this is not The Love is Blind recap. No, no, no. So we have like shit to do, right? We have shit to do. We have stories to get to. So I think without further ado-da-doo-da-doo,
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Starting point is 00:19:09 Yeah, turt. Our first story, some legal news. A$AP Rocky jumps into tearful Rihanna's arms after being found not guilty in his shooting trial. And I just wanna say, this is just another reason why all states should legally allow you to film courtrooms. Are there some states where you're not allowed to even like film with your phone?
Starting point is 00:19:28 Yeah, of course. Like no media allowed and that's why we get court cartoons. It depends on the state. But media is different than just like a proud mom with her phone. Oh, sorry. No one is allowed to proud mom with their phone, but media cameras are allowed into certain states. Got it.
Starting point is 00:19:45 Johnny Depp, the whole thing being televised. Of course, of course. I think New York is a state where you are not allowed to do that. This was in LA, so I'm assuming California is a pro-media state. So he was overwhelmed with excitement after receiving his not guilty verdict
Starting point is 00:19:58 in his shooting trial on Tuesday as he was seen jumping into long-time girlfriend Rihanna's arms upon hearing the news. Yeah, he literally like jumped over the banister. It was kind of a crazy video. To give Riri a hug. I mean, it's very exciting news. It's huge.
Starting point is 00:20:11 To be a free man versus, he was looking at 24 years in prison. No, and it was like pretty serious charges. Right. Two shootings. Right, so. And he was found not guilty on both counts. There was a lot to celebrate.
Starting point is 00:20:22 His lawyers looked really pleased with themselves. The first person he hugged was actually his lawyer, but I think she was just kind of in the way to Rihanna. I saw a woman that he hugged. I thought it was like a mother. Oh, oh, oh, no. So like all his friends and family were like behind this banister.
Starting point is 00:20:36 And then his big ass legal team was like in front of the banister at the desk. So on his way to Rihanna, and I think maybe his mother, there was a blonde lady who was totally like a clerk, like a lawyer. And she got the first hug technically, but that's just because of where she was. She was like kind of a victim of circumstance.
Starting point is 00:20:52 Yeah, so now this goes back to the question, like the NFL players who hug their girlfriends and their wives. I think the order of how it went was appropriate. They're not married, but they might as well be. They're long-term partners. They have two kids together. Like that's his wife.
Starting point is 00:21:07 I'm not gonna like nitpick. That's your partner for life. You have two kids together. They're like extremely supportive of one another in good times and in bad. And I'm really happy for them. I never doubted him for a second. I don't know a single detail about the case,
Starting point is 00:21:17 but I never doubted him. I didn't have an opportunity to doubt him or believe him because I don't know a single detail about the case. Yeah, I feel like this is like a big celebrity case where like we're all talking about it. Who much of it? But by the way, we're literally not talking about it. No, we're talking about like the verdict
Starting point is 00:21:31 and we're talking about the fact because Rihanna's been like coming in and out. We talked about the Gerardi of it all and then the verdict. And seriously in the time in between, on a grand scale, like this was not headline news. No, it wasn't, but mostly, anytime it was, was because of Rihanna.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Like she showed up in a look every day to court, she brought her son one day, which there's a lot of conversation about whether that was appropriate or not, was it a strategic legal move, like look, he's a father. Right. I thought it was fine. Yeah, to be honest, I see these photos now,
Starting point is 00:22:00 but like this was not headline news. Not as big as it should have been. Yeah. But that's also because like A$AP Rocky is literally on his own. He said I know he's like Accomplished but he's really not famous these days for anything other than being Rihanna's yes But like the Rihanna of it all makes it huge makes it huge yet It wasn't it was which I think was also probably good for The case because then it's like sometimes when it gets so big the judge feels like he has to make an example again the judge you know and people
Starting point is 00:22:26 start so I think operating under the radar is good yeah the way you just said good you sounded like Tamra I don't think he's good for you what did I say you said I think it's good like you just said good weird oh okay so can I don't think he's good for you I breathe or no nah nah nah so happy for the Rocky family I'm glad this chapter is over for them I wasn't into this very stressful Nah. Nah. Nah. So happy for the Rocky family. I'm glad this chapter's over for them. I wasn't into this. Me too, it's very stressful.
Starting point is 00:22:48 Yeah, and just as somebody who looks like a fan of them as a couple and a family, like this is not an era I was particularly like into. It wasn't fabulous, it wasn't fun, it wasn't fresh, it was sad somebody got shot. Like I'm very much looking forward to them putting this behind them and I'm sure they feel the same way.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Yeah. Our next story is some more legal news. Big day for the courts. Big day for the Claudias. Well, big day for people who have just been like waiting for Blake Lively to respond. To do something and to- Instead of like looking guilty and hiding.
Starting point is 00:23:13 And that's why I liked the SNL thing because it's like finally, even if people didn't like it, like people like people who fight back and defend themselves. And so she did that in the public way at SNL and now she's doing it in the courts. So Blake Lively has filed an amended complaint against Justin Baldoni saying it wasn't just me who felt uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Blake Lively says Justin Baldoni not only sexually harassed her, but he also made two other women feel uncomfortable on the set of It Ends With Us. And both are willing to testify against him at trial, according to a new court filing. Last night, Blake filed an amended complaint to her original lawsuit against Justin, which lays out new allegations that paint him in a negative light. In the 141 page document she says she was not alone in complaining about Baldoni and raising concerns about his behavior during their work together on the movie produced by Sonya and Wayfarer
Starting point is 00:23:56 starting in 2023. She says he quote acknowledged the complaints in writing at the time which runs contrary to his current narrative that he has quote invented. Blake says Justin knew that women other than Miss Lively were also uncomfortable and had complained about his behavior. Now the Hollywood Reporter states that the two actresses who had complained about Justin's behavior, they said unconfirmed,
Starting point is 00:24:18 but like sources are saying that it's Jenny Slate and that young blonde girl Isabella who played young Lily. Yes, there aren't many other women in the movie. That's true. They could have been extras. They could have been extras, but when it comes to like leading female actresses who were working with Justin on an everyday basis,
Starting point is 00:24:34 like there really aren't that many. That's actually such a good point. Like I guess by default it has to be them. Like who else could it be in a leading role? And I'm just going back to the book. Did it say leading? No, no it didn't, but like in a way that? And I'm just going back to the book. Did it say leading? No, no it didn't, but in a way that more than an extra. Like Lily's mom.
Starting point is 00:24:50 Not the waitress at a restaurant, even though that was Atlas. Lily's mom. That's literally the only woman in the book. Yeah, yeah. Other than these three. Well, I think also it's easy to... We know Jenny Slade has beef.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Correct, she unfollowed him, she's been very distant, she's vocally supported Blake Lively, so I think that if we had to guess, I would have guessed her. Uh-huh, it's a good guess. It's a good guess. So the thing is, I feel like, like as somebody who has up until this point,
Starting point is 00:25:16 definitely not been on Team Justin, it's nice to see Blake like defending herself, but at the end of the day, like I do feel like she's lost already, and there's, I don't know what she could say, what she could prove, what she could file that would change people's minds, honestly. Well, this definitely helps her case.
Starting point is 00:25:31 I know, but like people don't believe that she was sexually harassed. It doesn't matter what people believe. I mean, yes it does, but like her case. Yeah, no, by the way, and I'm very curious to see like what the law says, but right now we're in the streets. Like we're in the media, just When they did the SNL thing,
Starting point is 00:25:45 there was like literally a hundred articles the next day that were all negative about Blake. Like she's losing. If people don't believe that she was sexually harassed, not if, people don't believe that, period. If there are two other women on set who come forward and say that they experienced sexual harassment as well, that is a major difference.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Checking her column and corroborating her story, that just is. So if that happened, that changes things. Yeah, and if they, well, so she says- If people refuse to believe it or believe it, then that's on them. But like that changes the story. Cause then it's not just like Blake's perception
Starting point is 00:26:20 or her experience, it's a pattern. And there's literally only three young women on the set. Right, one of them is 23, which is like, and it's like her first time in Hollywood, her first big gig, like how traumatizing. Allegedly. Allegedly, of course. Frog got you throat?
Starting point is 00:26:40 Classic Jacks. Take a sip of the coffee. I choked on my, no, I'm seriously like choking on all my own fluids these days. My own food, my own saliva, my own vomit. It's really just been an amazing time. Being a woman is amazing.
Starting point is 00:26:53 Take a sip of something, perhaps? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think someone's bringing you a water also because I know you don't like the coffee today. I'm okay. Thank you so much. I'm at so much drama. So much drama. As somebody who has just kind of been waiting
Starting point is 00:27:06 for Blake Lively to do something, I'm extremely grateful that she just kind of stepped her pussy up. This is definitely, you know, a big check for Team Blake that she is responding, that it seems like, you know, there's more where this comes from. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:21 And the thing is the whole time to me is that people have been going back and forth on like everybody's personalities, but something that you really couldn't deny because it was both in her claim and then his lawsuit was like agreeing that this meeting had happened after the SAG-AFSTRA strike being like, before we come back to work,
Starting point is 00:27:35 like we all need to agree that like these things need to stop happening. And he agreed to it. So to me, isn't that like an admission that Blake was telling the truth? Not necessarily. I feel like I could see different ways that that could happen.
Starting point is 00:27:48 If like, assuming she's a liar, which I'm not saying that she is, but like, let's say this person's a liar. They might've had a meeting. Justin just wants to get this movie done. And like, girl, agree, whatever. Like just do your job. There's a million things that could have happened.
Starting point is 00:28:03 To me, that's not a smoke. Like a confirmation. No, not anymore, no. Okay, to me it was. And I'm very curious if the set all moves the needle for people who thought Blibley was lying about being sexually harassed. I think that we're back in the game.
Starting point is 00:28:20 We've got to match now. But have you seen it change the rhetoric online? I don't read, like I read rhetoric online and I don't know if I'm in my own echo chamber or I only follow people who are like of sound mind. I don't get a bunch of like idiots and their opinions because I don't give a shit. And my algorithm knows better.
Starting point is 00:28:39 So I'm not like following in the ping pong match of public opinion, but as someone in my own, I was very much, not very much, I'm not very much anything on this. I was moving over here, now I'm moving. And now I think we've got ourselves a match when it was looking very uneven. So you represent the undecided contingency, and so you think that this, at least a little bit,
Starting point is 00:29:00 is momentum in Blake's? Yeah. Got it, okay. For me, I'm like, okay, Blake's back in the game. I also just think it's kind of a big deal. Not that it's a game, this is very serious allegations. Of course, of course. It's a metaphor.
Starting point is 00:29:10 I do think it's a big deal that these two girls would agree to testify, because honestly, after watching this whole thing, who the fuck would want to get involved? Yes, but that's where principles come in. Scruples. And it's nice when people are scrupled and they're like, I can't see this go down this way.
Starting point is 00:29:24 What's unfortunate is like, it's Hollywood and there aren't any Scruples. And it's nice when people are scrupled and they're like, I can't see this go down this way. What's unfortunate is like, it's Hollywood and there aren't any scruples. There's not a scruple to be found. And it's like, oh, I don't care if Blake goes down. I'm not going down with her. I got, you know. My career to think about. Yeah, I've got movies to shoot.
Starting point is 00:29:36 So I think that sometimes it's like, when you see something wrong happening, you can't help but speak up. And it doesn't. Especially if you were a victim yourself. Yeah. Yeah. As opposed to just bearing it down, maybe like a studio will be like, if you don't help but speak up and it doesn't. Especially if you were a victim yourself. Yeah. Yeah. As opposed to just bearing it down,
Starting point is 00:29:47 maybe like a studio will be like, if you don't we got you here. Right, I don't know why I just think so low of people in Hollywood. I think that like, you know, speaking your truth is admirable. Yes, but I also sometimes like find, sometimes you have to speak up, like.
Starting point is 00:29:59 It'll kill you. It doesn't matter. Yeah, I feel like sometimes that happens to people. You're only as sick as your secrets. It's literally like what Lisa, I think about what Lisa Rinna said all the time. What did she say? She randomly like, and people feel like sometimes that happens to people. You're only as sick as your secrets. It's literally like what Lisa, I think about what Lisa Rinna said all the time. What did she say? She randomly like, and people were like, she's so crazy.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Like, if I don't say this thing, she's like, it's gonna give me cancer. It was like, and it was like dumb, what she was talking about, but things like that like make you physically ill. Yeah, no, and I mean, I feel that way sometimes where it's like, I don't care what this means. Like, I'm gonna say it,
Starting point is 00:30:24 cause it's so wrong not to. Right, you feel compelled by just like your ethics. Your conscience, yeah. And I think that- Conscience is a powerful thing. It is, when you have one. Correct. So, we'll see what happens next.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Yeah, I am curious, I mean, this was only filed this morning, so like there hasn't been enough time for opinions to change, or just like rhetoric to change. I am really curious, to me the most interesting part, and this is not interesting, obviously it I am really curious to me the most interesting part and this is not interesting obviously it's like a tragedy but the most interesting part of this whole saga is like seeing how it plays out on social media especially like with the allegations of astroturfing or whatever. I'd be very curious to see like if this at all moves the needle and I was having this conversation with somebody yesterday about how like this entire it ends with us drama
Starting point is 00:31:01 is a woman's issue right. It was women who read the book and made it popular. It was women who went and saw the movie. It's women who are sitting around having these conversations. I don't know what two straight guys who are talking about, did you see the counterclaim that Blake Lively dropped? So this is very much like a woman's issue
Starting point is 00:31:17 about an issue that affects mostly women, sexual harassment, domestic violence, things like that. And so it has been wildly interesting to see conversations being had about it, all by women, and how Blake wasn't really universally believed. Whereas up until this point, it was believe women and things of that nature, and that's not the case here. So it's just been a social experiment to watch.
Starting point is 00:31:40 Yeah, I guess things are changing in that sense, but I do think this blanket believe women, women could lie. So that doesn't really work and probably never did. And they could also be telling the truth, but just like you got to back it up. Right. You know, our next story, Mindy Kaling got a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. She brought BJ Novak with her. Alleged baby daddy Novak.
Starting point is 00:32:04 Well, they call him the godfather, the brought BJ Novak with her. Alleged baby daddy Novak. Well, they call him the godfather. The BD Novak. Her children's godfather. She has not shared who her children's father is, so of course people think. I just want to say, as Mindy Kaling's number one fan, I actually don't think that BJ Novak is her baby's father. One, because if he was, you wouldn't make him the godfather.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Two, it's a little complicated, you know? No, you would make him the godfather. To, it's a little complicated, you know? No, you would make him the godfather. You want him to have a role in your kid's lives. He's obviously not taking on the role of father because he doesn't wanna, or else you'd be a family. Not everyone who gives their sperm wants to be a full-time dad, but wants to help out a friend in need and procreate. Yeah, I just think a lot of women.
Starting point is 00:32:40 I think godfather is exactly what you'd call him. Just kind of to cover it up. No, not even cover it up, but like give that person a role in your children's life. But then it's just like Uncle BJ. Like he doesn't need to be so official, you know? I don't know. Those titles are transient, Uncle.
Starting point is 00:32:55 Like if he's the Godfather, he's always the Godfather. There were also rumors a few years ago that they had stopped being friends. So I feel like it's such an unnecessary complication. If you're like a woman of a certain age and certain success who wants to have children on her own, like there's so many options for you as opposed to, and they're like good options, you know,
Starting point is 00:33:09 where you can like get really vetted sperm and things like that. To go the route of somebody you know personally adds a real layer of complications that some people don't have the luxury of, like it's expensive to do it the other way. Yeah. Mindy Kaling has that option, so.
Starting point is 00:33:21 You don't think a trusted friend is preferred? Well, a trusted friend in Hollywood, like everybody's a snake. They did have like a brief period where they weren't speaking. I just think Mindy Kaling's like a little smarter than that. I really don't think that he's the father. You are not the father.
Starting point is 00:33:36 I don't know enough to say, but I think he would be a great choice like for her, for a trusted friend would be preferred to anonymous, right? Yeah, but like anonymous sperm, like when you go through like the proper channels, like yeah, it's technically like a stranger, but it's like super vetted. It's really-
Starting point is 00:33:53 Yes, it is, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's a beautiful thing. And it's a good option. So is a trusted friend. Yeah, but it's a good option, sorry, with no potential complications, unless I do always wonder like 23andMe, Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:03 how that affects sperm donors. Yeah, no, it affects them all the time. You don't see all these stories. Man had 80 kids, they all got together for a reunion. They're all best friends. It's literally a documentary on Hulu. It's also a movie with Vince Vaughn. Yes it is.
Starting point is 00:34:15 That's like people's favorite trope is like, the sperm donor in college who has 100 kids. I feel like we do talk about it enough. Okay, well I guess the point of the story is not who her dad is. Dear toasters. Also, I want to say there's been like a lot of conspiracies. I've seen a lot of chatter that like dear toasters is an industry plan. No is like fabricated either we make them up or other people make them up.
Starting point is 00:34:37 I need to say we've never made up a dear toasters in our lives. Now if people are writing in with fake stories, we could smell out, like there's some that are so stupid, we don't choose them. I've never ever thought that. Everything that we read, I'm like, that's a tough situation. 1000% I've never thought that,
Starting point is 00:34:57 by the way, on, give me a Bible, we have never ever made up a submission. Never, if we weren't getting submissions, we would just not do it. We'd say there's no demand, like problem solved. Also, I do want to say that this is a great opportunity that last week there was a Dear Toasters about a girl who read through her husband's texts with his mother
Starting point is 00:35:15 and he was like being really weird about their sex life. And it didn't occur to either of us, but so many people in the comments were like, girls, it's probably not his mom that he's texting. It's like a girl, a hooker, and he's put her name in as mom because no one's going to read that text being like, oh, he's cheating on me with his mother. And I thought that was a good call.
Starting point is 00:35:31 I didn't think of it as a potential. He was talking about his wife. He was talking about like... Sex with his wife. Yeah, so maybe it was a sex therapist that he wrote mom because he didn't want her to know. But I don't think it was, that's not how you talk to your mistress. I'm just saying, it was a sex therapist that he wrote mom because he didn't want her to know. But I don't think it was, that's not how you talk to your mistress.
Starting point is 00:35:47 I'm just saying, it was a good theory. It's not, it's devoid of facts. He was talking about his wife. Yeah, but like people are freaks. Like, I think if anything, it was like a little, you know, mother's helper. That's what we thought. Like normal people.
Starting point is 00:36:03 Or like maybe a hooker that is helping you through a tough time. Get more intimate with your wife. Like it's all in service to the wife. It's not just an affair. It's not as cut and dry. It's kind of like pretty woman. No.
Starting point is 00:36:17 Yeah, because at first it was just, you know, an exchange, but then it's true love. No, it's kind of like nothing I've ever seen. No, you know what it is? You ever see that movie with Helen Hunt? She plays a sex therapist. Okay. For like paraplegics or people who are like
Starting point is 00:36:37 physically unable. Yeah, it's called The Sessions. And- That sounds like what it's, what it is. Her name is Cheryl Green. She's a sex surrogate. It's actually based on a true story. And I forget her patient is like paraplegic or something.
Starting point is 00:36:55 And of course they end up falling in love. It's very beautiful. So it's kind of like that. That's really beautiful. Okay. Well, we'll just have to wait for the update. Kind of a love story for the ages. Also just check the phone number of the contact mom.
Starting point is 00:37:06 It's very simple stuff. Give it a ring. The story at hand is that Mindy Kaling got a- Star on the Walk of Fame earned. Oh, earned beyond. I can't believe she didn't even have one. If not just for her self as an actress, when you think about Mindy Project,
Starting point is 00:37:20 the office, what she's contributed to modern television, Sex Lives of College Girls. She's doing Lili Bon Two, if it ever comes out. Three. Three. And Never Have I Ever on Netflix, like true, true queen. Yeah, so it's her time. And of course, like she should already have them,
Starting point is 00:37:38 but like she has to get one, you know, like everyone has their time. And the process of the Hollywood Walk of Fame is so weird. It's not like what you would think. And the people who get it, like it's always so delayed. I think they have like a really high bar, which I appreciate. Yeah, no, I think you have to be extremely established to the point of to the point where it's like, how did they not have one already?
Starting point is 00:37:55 Right. Unignorable. Yeah. And so I think that's good. There's no one that's just like a flash in the pan. Even the 10 year flash. Yeah. Yeah. I want a 20 year flash. Where are the Oscars? Don't you feel like? They were postponed.
Starting point is 00:38:08 Cause the fires? Yeah. I just feel like I've stopped caring. I feel like they're typically in March and it's still February. That feels right. Yeah. You can't stop caring.
Starting point is 00:38:18 You watched all those bad movies. I know, for what? Like I watched Amelia Perez and Love is Blind. Netflix cut me a check for the time that I have wasted losing brain cells with your content. Yeah. Penis to vagina, vagina to penis. So that was such a good song.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Should we stream it? If you want. Do you know what the song is called, like the title of the song? You're gonna be shocked. Labiaplasty. Very close. La Vagina Plasti. Very close. La Vagina Plasti.
Starting point is 00:38:47 Oh, so it's just the Spanish version of La Viagina Plasti. Sorry, excuse me. La Vagina Plasti. Feminine, the feminine Plasti. Stream it. Oh, you're gonna play it. You're gonna wind up paying Netflix. Oh, you think we'll get it?
Starting point is 00:39:02 After they should be paying you. Okay, so I'll forget it. Let's get to our next story. Netflix. Oh, you think we'll get it? After they should be paying you. Okay, so I'll forget it. Let's get to our next story. You're just feeling bold because you have a computer. I feel different, you know, I'm wearing my sunglasses. You're like Jamie on Joe Rogan, just like looking things up. I'm literally like Tim Dillon and you are, what's his assistant's name, like Ben?
Starting point is 00:39:19 Yeah, for sure, Ben. Something about sunglasses in podcasting is a special breed, I actually spoke to Tim Dillon this morning, because he said it was funny that I looked like him. And I get why he does it, you definitely feel like a different person, you can kind of say shit because your eyes are covered. You have a layer of protection,
Starting point is 00:39:34 you can't see the haters. It also feels like anonymous, people who tell you to kill yourself and anonymously comment it, I kind of understand them right now, because I have sort of this sheet over me. You have anonymity. Yeah, my name is Claudia. And I'm wearing sunglasses. Yeah. So if it feels like I'm acting different that's why. Should I take them off and see like
Starting point is 00:39:53 if my vibe changes? Sure. And they'd like to see those beautiful eyes. I'm like the nerd who takes off his glasses and everybody realizes he's handsome. It's true. A princess. Archie. How do I look? Smile. Don't smile. Take off your sunglasses. Don't take off your sunglasses. What should I do? I know like if I, now when I go back and watch the episode, whatever I do, I'm gonna be like, I should have kept them on or I should have taken them off.
Starting point is 00:40:11 Should we plug in the monitor? No, no. Even though we never look at the monitor? No, no, no. Okay. I'll move on to the next story. So just like, leave them on. I'm gonna go back and watch the episode.
Starting point is 00:40:19 I'm gonna go back and watch the episode. I'm gonna go back and watch the episode. I'm gonna go back and watch the episode. I'm gonna go back and watch the episode. I'm gonna go back and watch the episode. I'm gonna go back and watch the episode. I'm gonna go back and watch the episode. I'm gonna go back and watch the episode. I'm gonna go back and watch the episode. I'm gonna be like, I should have kept them on or I should have taken them off. Should we plug in the monitor? Even though we never look at the monitor? No, no, no. Okay, I'll move on to the next story.
Starting point is 00:40:27 So just like, leave them on. I'll make the decision. That way, if you regret it, you could blame me. What's the number story? Four. Partch. Nike teams up with Kim Kardashian shapewear brand Skims as it looks to reach more women.
Starting point is 00:40:38 So Nike and Skims have signed like a serious partnership, a long-term partnership to launch a new brand called Nike Skims. I just feel like they really could have workshopped the name. I agree. It's one word, capital N, lowercase I-K-E, capital Skims. Nike Skims. Should it be called like Psyche?
Starting point is 00:40:58 Or Nims? Yeah. I don't know, it's not a good name. I don't know, they love a name like this though. This is so Nike Skims. There's too many K's. There's two K's. It's like, it's a bumpy word, Nike Skims. It's weird. It doesn't roll off the tongue. Especially if you were to lowercase everything, it's like Nikeskims. Nikeskims. If we were to pronounce things the way they should be pronounced. Nikeskims. That's why they
Starting point is 00:41:24 had to do all this, this capitalization. Otherwise, it's Nikeskims, if we were to pronounce things the way they should be pronounced. Nick Heskims, that's why they had to do all this a brief of this capitalization. Otherwise it's Nick Heskims. And what about an X like Nike X Skims? That also is chunky. It's not really an X at this point because it's like. It's its own company. Yeah, they're not, it's a not a short term collaboration.
Starting point is 00:41:38 It's a new brand. The new brand will include a collection of apparel, footwear and accessories that will debut this spring with a global rollout planned for 2026. Now I think this is really great for Kim's wallet. For Kim's self. And also for the customers when things, like they just did a collab with North Face.
Starting point is 00:41:53 I know Margot Washington got some things, but like it sells out in two seconds. Like Nike is great for distribution. They have a million stores. They have a lot of product. Like whatever they make, people will be able to get it. And I think it will be like top quality fabric. I think this is really just makes a lot of sense. It's so great for Nike because Skims is so cool,
Starting point is 00:42:09 and it's so great for Skims because Nike is so legit. And Skims has been doing a couple of things that like really are moving them out of just like the women's underwear space and into all different things. Like they're the official underwear of the NBA. Like if you watch any NBA game, their logo is literally on the court. It's so crazy.
Starting point is 00:42:22 So this is just like adding an air of legitimacy to skims while also further entering this like kind of sports world. For some reason, that's like where they're going. Like performance wear. Performance, yeah. So the name is so terrible, but the concept is not a bad idea. Although I don't understand what they're making.
Starting point is 00:42:38 What kind of business you in? Like socks? Apparel, footwear, oh, sneakers. Nike makes sneakers. Oh, okay, okay. And like maybe they'll have like a cool, Like socks? Apparel, footwear, oh sneakers. Nike makes sneakers. Oh, okay, okay. And like maybe they'll have like a cool, they're comparing this to like Jordan.
Starting point is 00:42:50 Yes, yes. Like she is the Michael Jordan of women. I mean, it could be men's too, but like I think when you think of it for women, like Michael Jordan is to Nike is to men, what Kim Kardashian will be to Nike to women. Hopefully. I think that feels right.
Starting point is 00:43:04 And in an age where like kind of everybody's really pushing women's sports, Caitlin Clark, the WNBA, things of that nature, Simone Biles, it's a good time, lots of momentum for the, who do we think is gonna be the face? Oh, I mean like it should be Kim because to me, like the Caitlin Clark, like that's, she has her own shoe. This isn't that, to me, this is like competes with Aloe
Starting point is 00:43:24 and women's athleisure. That's what it feels like to me. I mean, that space is huge, like aloe, lululemon. Yeah, because Caitlin Clark has her own shoe. This isn't for like, I mean, maybe they'll have women's athletes a part of it, but this feels different. Okay, that's actually a good point. I see it.
Starting point is 00:43:42 Now I understand what you're saying. The name really needs to be better. Because when I- Like she is the face, she is the Jordan. Yeah. Ali, you, I wanna see a logo of her. And she's so like fit, sports, workout. Yeah. But the name is really bad.
Starting point is 00:43:54 Now that I'm kind of understanding what it is, and if you are competing in that like wellness, women's wear, athleisure space, which is so big, Nike Skims is like such a harsh, ugly name, whereas like Aloe, Lululamon. It's not a bad name because it's like straight tracks. Recognizable brands. It's Nike and Skims, like whatever,
Starting point is 00:44:12 but it doesn't roll off the tongue. It's not pargy. It's not pargy. And when you're not pargy, you're largy, you know? You're nargy. Yeah, you're nargy. Yeah. It's not good.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Yeah. Makes me sad. But maybe, who knows, maybe in meetings they'll start to call it a nickname, then it'll rebrand. What do you think is the opposite, the antonym of pargy? Nargy?
Starting point is 00:44:39 Nargy. I guess. It's, we need to workshop it, sound off in the comments, you guys. What's the opposite? What's the- Yucky. What's the, yeah, the antonym.com of pargy.
Starting point is 00:44:49 I guess it would be yucky. I just wanted it to rhyme. Yeah, but I feel like if it rhymes, then it's part of the pargy world. Everything that rhymes with pargy is pargy. Gargy. Gargy pargy, pargy, margy. So it inherently needs to not rhyme.
Starting point is 00:45:03 It's yucky. I think in Toast-a-Lingo, it's yucky. Now before we dive into the fifth and final story, and of course the TV recap that we haven't even begun to get into yet. Oh my god. Holy shit, are you okay? That's how long COVID. Literally.
Starting point is 00:45:20 Smokers cough. Now that you're commuting to work, it's the perfect place to have a cigarette. It's so true. That would really enhance my vibe. Are you vaping again? No, oh my gosh, yucky. Yeah, yucky, who would want to vape? Gross.
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Starting point is 00:50:12 You're welcome. Our fifth and final story, a little flirtatious news. Who knows what it means, but Glenn Powell and Lily Draimes. Draimes. Lily James. I loved Lily Draimes in Downton Abbey. You did She was right for the role her role specifically like the annoying younger cousin was so fucking annoying. I take it back. You're right. She was dreadful Glenn Powell and Lily James though break into a fit of giggles as they leave a BAFTAs party together
Starting point is 00:50:40 So Glenn Powell and Lily James were photographed in a car in the back of an SUV together, leaving the BAFTAs. They walked out at the same time, but separately. So we don't have photos of them walking together, but like she's wearing his jacket. They get into the same car and like they're laughing. So they're in love. There has been a lot of speculation about who Glenn Powell is gonna date
Starting point is 00:50:58 because on his rise to fame, he was in a relationship for a pretty long time. So he never was able to like use his celebrity and his dating life to catapult him to another, because that's always how it happens. And he really is this big time Hollywood movie star, really one of the most eligible young men.
Starting point is 00:51:14 There was those rumors about him and Sidney Sweeney, but he wasn't dating her. That was fake. So we've never really seen him in a celebrity relationship. This is the first time. If it's a relationship. Let's operate like it is, let's talk like it is.
Starting point is 00:51:24 I don't think that it is. I think that they were at the same party, they like got along and they're going to the next place together. Where it goes from there, I don't know. Oh, I didn't consider that there would be another party after this party, I just figured they were going home. Like nightcap, we're going to someone's place.
Starting point is 00:51:38 That's very sexy nightcap. In the moment, they're like, this is good for both of us. Like, let's get in the same car. Why should we not? Like, even if this goes nowhere and they just either like hooked up or whatever, like this is good. This is good.
Starting point is 00:51:51 Well, okay. So you're being like a little critical, which is important. This is important. Wait, me saying this is good is critical. Sorry, you're thinking critically. Cynical? No, you're thinking critically.
Starting point is 00:52:00 Okay. Like you're saying it wasn't like this whirlwind romance, but I wanna talk about it like it is. Okay. Like let's say these two are even just like casually dating. I love it so much, you know, because I've been waiting for Glenn Powell to do something like this.
Starting point is 00:52:13 And I like that he didn't go, like we would have thought so, even the Sydney Sweetie thing, I'm like, it's so obvious, you know, like two hot young people. Like Lily James is very much an accomplished actress. And I think that Glenn Powell really wants to be taken seriously as like one day, like an Oscar level actor.
Starting point is 00:52:27 And I think that him, you know, swimming in the same pools, Bafta, London, Lily James, like it's pargy. It's well thought out. I like it. I actually, the more I think about this, like I think it's nothing. I think Glenn Powell likes to be seen with like, you know, talking to Gracie Abrams, talking to Sidney Sweeney.
Starting point is 00:52:45 Wait, I forgot about that. Like, I love him as an actor, but I just feel like he kind of loves these moments and they mean nothing to him. And I don't know what he's actually up to. Wow, so you hate Glenn Powell. That sounds like what you're saying. Like you think low of Glenn Powell.
Starting point is 00:53:01 No, cause what he actually might be up to might be something amazing. That he's not sharing with us? Yeah. Or not. of Glenn Powell. No, cause what he actually might be up to might be something amazing. That he's not sharing with us? Yeah. Or not. Or like he's using these young women for a clout. Glenn would never.
Starting point is 00:53:13 Clout chaser. No Jackie, let me tell you something. I'm kidding. You know I love him. I know, I'm really shocked to hear you say this. No, no, I'm just like, until he's like really with someone, I'm seeing a lot of this.
Starting point is 00:53:23 Party, having fun, I like being spotted with you. It's like a with someone, I'm seeing a lot of this, party, having fun, I like being spotted with you, it's like a good moment en du mois. That's fair, and I like that for him. What, only girls can do that? You'd love to see men in women dominated fields. Like this is fun. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:35 This is fun, and as you should, I like when people use their dating life to catapult their careers. Like I think that's really an interesting way of getting famous and of rising your star. And Glenn, like Glenn has the roles, you know, He has the looks, but he needs a Hollywood starlet. He needs a personal life that we can all get invested in because I don't know what Glenn does. That's what I'm saying. By the way, this is him getting us invested. We talked about
Starting point is 00:53:56 Gracie Abrams very briefly. This is something new. We have a picture now. He is actually taking us with him. You don't see it. You don't understand Glenn like I do. I don't see the vision. Like where does Glenn even live? What does Glenn even do? I think Glenn lives in Austin. I think he's kind of like a local hometown hero. In terms of what he does, I know he loves his family. You know, all he does is hang out with his mom and his friends and he stokes up each other's awesomeness. That's what I think. I think he, I think he's stressed out. Wow. And it's important that we not read into this too much. I think he, I think he's stressed out. And I think he's like, not read into this too much. She's cultivated like this perfect image life because he's no image. He's so perfect. Like I love him.
Starting point is 00:54:34 The teeth. Yeah. And it must be like so hard to live up to that. Like, what if Glenn Powell was imperfect? And does Glenn have a bad day? I'm sure Glenn has bad days and he's not allowed. And I'm sure he's one of these actors where his team is like, Glenn, get up. Yeah, even though I could also see Glenn
Starting point is 00:54:48 having a really good team around him. I don't know. I could see him really getting sucked into a toxic whirlpool. I just feel like you want something sinister to be going on here with Glenn. And I can like almost tell you for certain that there's not. Like he's just, he's just like a guy. He's just laughing after the bath.
Starting point is 00:55:03 This is what you're saying. He's catching a ride home, okay? With a pretty girl? Pretty girls need to get home too. Or is just being a gentleman taking her home, like maybe her car got lost or whatever. And I need the jacket, like they're telling us something. Yeah, by the way, the jacket, okay,
Starting point is 00:55:16 not you turning me into a hater, but the jacket is giving staged. It's a little, yeah. Especially because- Not to say that they don't get along and that they're not gonna have a fun night together, but they want us to know that. Let's talk about the jacket jacket because actually there's no way she needed the jacket inside the party The parties are often really warm
Starting point is 00:55:31 And so okay She needed the jacket to walk from the curb to the car where the car obviously has heat if it's cold in London right now like And look at the girl behind her shivering like but didn't give her a jacket. Okay, so it was cold That looks like I literally thought it was a turbo Februarybo. Yeah, and it's February in London. So it's cold. Wait, let me see the pictures past the iPad. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:55:48 Go ahead. Because you know me. I love to like, oh. What are you thinking now? Let me just, just give me a minute, because a picture says 1,000 words, and there's like 11 pictures. So we have 11,000 words. Glenn Powell is so hot like that's the worst thing I'm thinking the party was inside
Starting point is 00:56:08 So there's no way she needed the jacket inside and also to be clear. She's wearing a blazer So it's like two jackets, but it's a it's a crop crop top. So her belly my man cold You know, she's belly's not the right word. She kind of reminds me and looks like I'm sure we've said this before Who is her celebrity doppelganger? She has one. Grace Van Patten. Yeah. Yeah, they look like a lot alike. Like I could see them playing like sisters in a film or something.
Starting point is 00:56:31 In a twisted film where one goes missing and the other is pretending to be her. Correct. They should make that movie. They did make that movie. A simple favorite. Yeah, we just watched it. We just watched it.
Starting point is 00:56:44 Yeah, I don't know. So they first met in 2018, they played a married couple They did make that movie, a simple favorite. We just watched it. We just watched it. Yeah, I don't know. So they first met in 2018, they played a married couple in something called the Guernsey Literary and Potato Peel Society. I was about the Guernsey Literary and Potato Peel Society, it's based on a book and I was going to read it, so I might want to read.
Starting point is 00:56:58 Oh man, I'm cracking up. It's a historical fiction book. Yeah, so they have. Wait, now I have to read it and watch the movie starring the two of them. So they could also just be friends. Like they worked together in 2018. The Guernsey Literary and Potato Peel Pie Society.
Starting point is 00:57:11 That's far too long of a name for a film and that's why it wasn't successful. It's quirky and no, I think it was like a very popular book. Ooh, this looks so good. It's a historical fiction book. I think it's like World War II and you know how the Potato Peel Society was affected by like probably rations and like lack of potatoes.
Starting point is 00:57:26 How does that affect a society? It's giving kitchen front. If you're a redhead, that means something to you. And if you're not, it's time for the love is blind recap, where Jackie and I are going- Yeah, if you're not reading. Right. You're watching the most dreadful season
Starting point is 00:57:39 of a show that once was good. And I feel like, obviously we talk about this all the time. Like some seasons are really amazing and some are fine. There's never been one that's like unwatchable. I just want to say though, the seasons being amazing happens after the pods. Like one of my favorite seasons is Jimmy and Chelsea and Jessica.
Starting point is 00:57:58 And it didn't get amazing until all that stuff happened back in North Carolina at the lake and the honeymoon. Yeah, but I don't remember the pod episodes feeling like teeth being pulled. But they're always not the most interesting. Now it's unfortunate they have so many pod episodes. It is what it is, but whether the season will be good or not, we can't say.
Starting point is 00:58:18 I will say though that the trailer for the season, like someone saw me on Instagram and he knew what I looked like. And that's the clip that I'm seeing. Do you want me to tell you who it is? Does it even matter? Cause this already happened for- Don't tell me.
Starting point is 00:58:28 Okay, one of the girls- No, I said don't tell me. No, but I'm not gonna tell you who. Oh yeah, okay. One of the girls is talking to camera. They obviously got together and she's in one of the apartments. And she was like, when I saw him,
Starting point is 00:58:38 like I knew that he actually followed me on Instagram, like a few months ago or whatever. I remember seeing his profile. I remember seeing a photo of him in front of a Christmas tree or something. So like she remembered what he or whatever. I remember seeing his profile, I remember seeing a photo of him in front of a Christmas tree or something. So like she remembered what he looked like. And she was like, and all this stuff is in my Instagram bio
Starting point is 00:58:51 about things that I like. And I think that he knew who I was and what I looked like and maybe tailored to all of his answers. It's so romantic. However, nothing that's in your Instagram bio should be enough for someone to convince you that you're in love with them. Right, like how long is your bio?
Starting point is 00:59:06 No, but it's like when you're gonna get married to someone based on conversations, like it should be about more than like, I like pizza too. Right. You know, so he shouldn't have even been able to really get ya by just that. So I feel like she'll probably break up with him
Starting point is 00:59:22 because she's obviously like, she said, oh my God, I have to trust my God. But I'm sorry, like if you fell for that, you fell for it. Well, in the first two episodes, we only get one engagement. And then the first reveal happens in the first couple of minutes of the third episode,
Starting point is 00:59:38 which I did watch. Who is it? Joey, who is the long haired, Oh, they're perfect for each other and Monica. They are perfect for each other. The reveal was butt clenchingly cringe, but because they're matching each other's level of like freaky, it all went well.
Starting point is 00:59:53 It's not cringe for anything bad. I actually think they are a good couple. I just wanna say the first reveal is always the strongest. Yes, and I think that's coming through. They had like actually good conversations about things that a couple should talk about. And they are physically matched.
Starting point is 01:00:11 Now I had an actual physical reaction to something one of the girls said. And she's probably one of my least, she's definitely my least favorite person on the show. Because every time she talks, it's exactly what you and I were saying at the top of this show. Like it's you say something really bland and boring, and you act like it's revolutionary conversation. And it's the girl who said she listened to Joe Rogan and the ant farm. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:33 And she was like, and maybe natural disasters are just like somebody shaking. Superior beings. Superior beings. And somebody shaking up our ant farm. And then she kind of left it silent for him to be like, whoa. And I was like, are you fucking dumb? Like, it was seriously like, oh, yeah, she was like,
Starting point is 01:00:51 I have a lot of like high sober thoughts. You know, I'm sober, but like, I think like a high person. I'm like, oh, you're so crazy. Yeah, if someone said those things to me, I'd say have a good day, sir. Like, and I'd walk out of the room. Not a match. And my question is like, so he's kind of like down.
Starting point is 01:01:02 He's like, yeah, you're an Anfarm, oh, totally. And are two people who are both Anfarm people, like should they be together or no? Like I feel like opposites attract and it's nice to have common interests, but at what point are you just dating yourself and you're not supposed to do that? I don't know if there's room in a relationship
Starting point is 01:01:22 for two Anfarm people. Right, but I feel like- But I don't know if somebody who's not an Ant Farm person can sleep next to somebody who is. I completely hit crazy. It's a really good question you ask, I don't know. These are bottom of the barrel conversations that we're having about these people.
Starting point is 01:01:34 They have given us nothing. Now I know we're only two episodes in and I would like to ask permission from our audience, please let us stop watching this. It's genuine psychological torture. It's uninteresting people. There's no drama. Now there are people who are having mutual connections.
Starting point is 01:01:49 So like Dave, who's this guy who's like an asshole, but then was really nice. And like they- There's always a Dave, a guy who's like doesn't think. Yeah, but Leo was like super transparent and almost like funny. Remember that guy that, who was it that got with him? Shake. No.
Starting point is 01:02:06 A.D. was talking to this guy. But she, no, not the one she ended up with. Matthew. Yeah, of course. He's a Matthew where it's like, he thinks he's too good to be on the show, but he's going through the experiment, but it will not work out for him
Starting point is 01:02:20 because ultimately he thinks it's stupid. Meanwhile, he has two connections. One Molly, who's honestly a cutie. Matthew had two connections as well. Right. He's a cutie and then he's also connecting with Lauren, who was the girl who took a year off. She was a teacher.
Starting point is 01:02:33 She wasn't making a livable wage. She is vibing with Dave and she, at the end of the episode too, finds out that Molly is too. And it's like, oh my God, it's almost like that's the concept of this fucking show. And when somebody's like, I feel like somebody, Molly says to her, I feel like we don't have the same connection so I can tell you like, I'm really vibing with Dave.
Starting point is 01:02:49 Meanwhile, she's like literally talking to the other woman. Her face, like she's so, like so back dress, like I can't be here, like I can't be here. That's the whole point of the show. Yeah, who do you think he should pick and who do you think he will pick? I don't think you should pick either of them. I don't think that either of them are well suited
Starting point is 01:03:08 because I don't think the person we're seeing is like really who he is. I think we got little glimpses, like I work in medical aesthetics, like I'm around a lot of Botox. Who the fuck says that? And also, what does that mean? People having very vague jobs.
Starting point is 01:03:20 I work in medical aesthetics. Do you engineer Botox? Are you the receptionist at a med spa? And then his description says medical sales. So I think he like sells parts for cosmetology. And then the NBA dancer, she says she has a doctorate in healthcare administration. She's like, people are really surprised when they find out
Starting point is 01:03:36 I work in a hospital and then I'm a doctor. Well, a doctor who works in a hospital is different than somebody with a doctorate. Yeah. So I just feel like everybody's very misleading about their jobs. But I do really like Devin. That's who's talking to?
Starting point is 01:03:49 Britanni and NBA dancer. He is like loves his job. He loves kids. He loves basketball. He just wants everybody to love basketball and the kids as much. He's a youth sports. I really like him.
Starting point is 01:03:57 I think he's like a PJ. He's just really young. And all the women he's talking to are much older. Oh, yeah. And he went to the same high school. And she was like, five years later. It's not that many years. Yeah, but that's crazy.
Starting point is 01:04:07 But also good, because they don't know each other. Yeah. It's annoying. I guess that's what happens if you go to a smaller town to do this, like people tell each other. No, and so we need to talk about. But I also like the small town elements, because there is a lot of common ground.
Starting point is 01:04:20 And sometimes people want to stay where they are and meet someone where they are. So not everything has to be like Chicago or LA. But we need to talk about the implications of a small town on the personalities that come on this show. On the entertainment value for the show. We always talk about how important it is, the city that they're in.
Starting point is 01:04:37 And like some of the best seasons are just like these urban metropolises with people from all different walks of life. Most recently DC was like not a good season because people in DC are weird. And so I think where you're from, but then a really good season where people are really weird was like the Portland, Oregon, Seattle area.
Starting point is 01:04:54 Like it was a good season. The people were freaks. It was an okay season. It was a good season. At the time it wasn't the best season, but now that we've had so much worse, we look back fondly. And they weirdly have like a couple couples come out. Chelsea and Kwame.
Starting point is 01:05:05 Yeah. That was Jimmy and Chelsea, no? No, that was North Carolina. Oh, yeah, okay, North Carolina was a good city too. So the city. City. Whatever, the city means a lot. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:18 And I was actually really looking forward to Minnesota. I mean, that guy Joey, his accent is fucking crazy. Like, I don't even know what Minnesota people talk like, but he is a walking cliche. Nobody else really has that terrible of an accent. He must be like really local. Yeah. Or from a specific part of Minnesota.
Starting point is 01:05:34 Because most of them are like live in St. Paul, like downtown. And I fear it's not giving a good look for people from Minnesota. And I don't want to paint with a broad brush, but it's so vanilla. I think it's more the editing. And especially, and so, okay, they trend vanilla and you gave us six episodes of pods, whereas other cities are a little more interesting and there was
Starting point is 01:05:54 only two. So I didn't hear about your dad's steak. Like I didn't hear about all these really, I like Taco Bell. Your dad's steak. Taco B. I didn't hear about every fucking tattoo that everyone has. Oh my God, what's with the tattoos? Who cares? So they're operating at a disadvantage because they're not the most interesting and they're filling the most airtime. So it's a combination.
Starting point is 01:06:11 And I don't think you can blame the Midwest. No, and that's fair. I think the Midwest has a wonderful elk. That's fair. That we just are not being packaged properly. We're the crazy people. You know, like you need to sprinkle them in. And in addition to the serious people
Starting point is 01:06:23 who are taking the experiment seriously, you need to have the assholes, the people who are clearly there to get famous, the people who have really nutty personalities. There's none of that. Everybody is so normal to the point of bored to tears. But I will be curious to see if it yields good relationships.
Starting point is 01:06:38 They're all so normal. They can all kind of work with each other. Are we gonna have a lot of marriages? That'll be interesting. As far as continuing to watch, of course last night was really hard, but I do think the best is yet to come. And you put in the hard work for the payoff.
Starting point is 01:06:49 Six episodes of pods is waterboarding. There might be some fast forwarding that has to happen. And also we'll see how people are talking about it. Some seasons it's like, I mean that Chelsea season, the Megan Fox, it was everywhere before I started watching. So if it's really gaining steam, we can continue to watch and we'll see what happens. And whoever's idea was to have people in the pods
Starting point is 01:07:09 do a date night where they're doing silent discos. And we're obviously not listening to what they're listening to because then they put on like their generic music and we're watching them like bop it to like selling sunset pop music. Like seriously stop, but seriously. The funniest was Monica showing Joey how her dad dances
Starting point is 01:07:23 and like she's describing and he's doing something completely different because he can't see her. And that made me chuckle. Oh, also Madison, like twerking with the golf club. I haven't gotten there, unfortunately. Was she doing it with Ben Platt? She was doing it, no, with Mason, the cinematographer.
Starting point is 01:07:37 She's like, oh, we're both artists. Should two artists be together? I feel like no. Well, who's gonna pay the bills? Dude, but like you really have to think like opposites attract. Yeah, okay, so she's getting like, it's obviously a late night date
Starting point is 01:07:51 and she's like kind of like horny and she's being like really weird and like sexually suggestive, like telling him that her nipples are pierced and she was like, he's like, I love mini skirts and she was like, oh, then you would have loved my micro mini the other day and he was like, I was talking to would have loved my micro mini the other day. And he was like, I was talking to you
Starting point is 01:08:05 and you were wearing a micro mini skirt. What did you do? And then they're like also doing putt-putt as their date. And so she like holds both hands on the golf club and like shakes her ass in a mini skirt towards the wall that divides them. And he obviously can't see it. So she's like, oh, by the way, I just twerked.
Starting point is 01:08:25 And he goes, you know how to twerk? Like as if she like tied a cherry. She just like shook her ass. Actually, she didn't twerk. She just like. By the textbook definition. Yeah, textbook, she actually did not twerk. She just like did like a hip dip.
Starting point is 01:08:40 Understood. It was painful. I just want to say, like, I do feel like some people might have pod sex. Like, you know, and they should talk about sex and. They're definitely having pod sex. It was painful. I just want to say, like, I do feel like some people might have pod sex, like, you know, and they should talk about sex and- They're definitely having pod sex. To sexual beings, but because there's not usually six pod episodes,
Starting point is 01:08:51 we don't see it. And I do think people should be able to have pod sex- Private moments. And then not film it. And I feel like that this probably happens a lot and it's unfortunate that we're seeing it because it's kind of hard to be there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:03 It's really like been so unenjoyable thus far. Sound off in the comments. Honestly sounds amazing. We are funny. By the way, we literally, each episode is like a little over an hour. So I watched like almost two and a half hours. It's about dollars and cents.
Starting point is 01:09:16 Like it's about time spent streaming. I'm just letting you know Netflix, like it's bad business because I'm not going to watch a show. However, we have to make it to Honeymoons because that's when you can decide. Like we watched G. C. Dole Honeymoons and it was still bad. But that was the best time.
Starting point is 01:09:30 And maybe we'll get there slowly. Yeah. Maybe half an episode a night. I hope Netflix learns from this though. Yeah. Cause they definitely in the past have made the pods too short where like you really don't understand the people and it's hard to get really invested.
Starting point is 01:09:42 So it's a perfect, it's always dreadful. It's always like a little hard because you're like learning all these people's names. And I just want to say like, I don't mind not understanding the people and not knowing like why they connected. I'm just going to trust you, okay? I don't trust the process.
Starting point is 01:09:54 Now give me the juice. Go to Guatemala, where they are, Honduras, sorry. Get your ass to Honduras. Get on Island Time, show me the reveals. Start sleeping in the same beds. Oh, so they've made the reveals a little too long, like where they now sit and chat. They put a bench.
Starting point is 01:10:09 I'd sit and chat, but I don't wanna sit and chat. The bench is probably the worst thing to happen to the show because the best part of the reveals is how awkward it is that they have to stand and like be fully in gowns and meet someone new for the first time. The fact that they sit, it lets them get like a little bit more comfortable and I don't like it.
Starting point is 01:10:24 I want them to be weird. Then it goes on longer. Like, no, I want you guys to see each other, initial thoughts, first impression, we'll see ya on Honeymoons. Agreed, it's too much. We need to check in with them back in Honduras. It's just too much and it's too weird.
Starting point is 01:10:37 Like I clocked, you know, I saw what they saw. I've seen what I needed to see. Move it along. Correct. All right, well that's our show you guys. We see. Move it along. Correct. All right, well, that's our show, you guys. We kind of crushed it. Classic us. Classic us.
Starting point is 01:10:50 Anything else you want to say before we wrap? I'm actually starting to get worried how I'm going to get my car out of the spot now. I'll help you. Okay, thank you. It was kind of crazy that you didn't come and help me. Oh, you couldn't help me. I literally thought the car was driving itself.
Starting point is 01:11:02 Did you see me for- And every day you're always like, I parked today. I thought you knew how to park. Who doesn't know how to park? I don't know car was driving itself. Did you see me like for- And every day you're always like, I parked today. I thought you like knew how to park. Who doesn't know how to park? I don't know how to parallel park. I'm not gonna lie. What's the point?
Starting point is 01:11:10 Everywhere you go has a massive parking lot. I know how to parallel park. It will take me like 15 minutes, but I can do it. I was on like minute seven before she got in the car. Unless it's on the left side of the street. Was it on the left? Like were you, was the parking spot to your left or to your right?
Starting point is 01:11:24 To my right. Oh, okay. that I can do like in 10 minutes. I can't do it in a while. I actually think getting out is easier. I'll back up onto the curb and then just drive straight. Yeah, and just leave your insurance card wherever you go. Yeah. Leave a note. Guys, that's our show, thank you so much for listening
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