The Toast - Love Is Blind Sandwich: Thursday, February 22nd, 2024

Episode Date: February 22, 2024

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Good morning, Millennials, and welcome back to the toast. It's Thursday. Yay. Thursday. Thursday. Yeah, everyone's all about Friday, which that was like a dark time for millennial culture. But what about Thursday? Yeah, every day.

Every day is a yay when you're with your sister. No, that, yes. But every day is a yay when you're alive. Wow, you're gonna go so far as to say that. I am, I'm feeling hopeful today. Hopeful for what? That I might get this trip that I'm trying to plan in like one day off the ground.

It was really difficult, you know, Ben is being like a diva. He's like, I have a job. I'm like, okay, and? Yes, and? No, your wife is trying to plan like a last minute getaway for for you know to the gods to saint barts and like you're being like whiny about it yeah no he's too busy

for saint barts but i'm here on the other side pushing you to go jackie's been very very um influential in my decision i won't let her give up i was just watching the taylors i feel like i didn't even talk about this on the main show i talked talked about it on Patreon. Where it all goes down. Taylor Strecker and Taylor Donahue have been in St. Barts for like a month. And it's just like I'm so jealous. And then I realized like I have free will. I am a dink. Dual income.

No children. No kids. Excuse me. And like I need to be taking advantage of that. You know I have disposable income. And I have you know a flexible job. And I have nothing really tying me down. I mean I've been here for two weeks.

Like and it's just it's not enough. Like need to go even further south you know yeah so yeah I might go to St. Bart's on Wednesday even though like nobody told you like you need two million dollars to go to St. Bart's like in a in a decent way I feel like I'm not even looking like so lux that could have been surmised yeah it's just like a little bit annoying but you know what like I'm investing in my happiness I'm investing in my future and it's fine. And these are the days where you can do things such as these things. Right, right. So that's just like kind of what I'm like, I'm feeling like I'll know by the end of day

today, like if this trip is happening. And if I have anything to say about it, it will be happening. I just need Ben to like shut the fuck up. Like if he came to me and was like, I'm planning everything. Just like cancel work for a few days. I'd be like, done. It's be happening. I just need Ben to like shut the fuck up. Like if he came to me and was like, I'm planning everything. Just like cancel work for a few days. I'd be like, done. It's a dream. Just show up.

Pack your bag. Like I'm planning everything. Like I'm making it happen. And by the way, I'm planning it in such a fabulous way where it's like, we'll have some sexy alone time. But we also have friends there. And what I'm termizing is St. Barts is the type of place you want to go with friends. It's like very fun.

So I'm like, I couldn't have done this more perfectly. Yeah. The tailors are open to extending their trip to spend a few days with us. Like everybody's working around the clock and Ben's is like, I have to work. Shut up. And it's like, we all have to work, but we're going to move things around. We're going to figure it out. We're going to do audio only episodes perhaps, or maybe.

Cancel a few shows. Yeah. I might cancel a few shows. Here's the thing. And I'm sure people are like, Jax, you're so supportive that you always are pushing Turdy to do great things. She has an ulterior motive. I have my own two motives. First motive is that if she goes next week to St. Bart's,

it means she's staying in Florida until next week. Well, actually, Ben doesn't like that idea either. Ben's like, let's go home and get our stuff. So Ben has to go. You know, Ben is, honestly, because if it weren't, by the way, if it were not for Ben, I would be in St. Bart's today. I planning on leaving today first of all and he can't even relate to you because you don't need to go home and get your stuff I have stuff for you what if

you wore all new stuff you like you can go shopping in my closet fabulous and I said Ben I'm like we go to the mall we're not in the middle of nowhere like what do you need three bathing suits like you're a man his sister can go and send things from your apartment I said I'm like we can have someone go get our passports he's like I don't want people His sister can go and send things from your apartment. I said, I'm like, we can have someone go get our passports. And he's like, I don't want people rifling through my underwear. I'm like, okay, that I actually do understand. Why is your passport with your underwear? It's not actually, it's with my makeup.

Beautiful. So it's just like, he is not down to like live on the edge. And he's just acting like, he's not acting like he's a 30 year old with no children and, you know, and disposable. He's just not acting like, he's acting like a grandpa and he's giving ball and chain energy and he's kind of dragging me down because by the way it's just so important if there if there was no ben i would be in st barnes right now i was planning on leaving today and he was like that's crazy let's go next week and i'm like okay so i had to push my trip back a week

like i would be on my way so ben and i were aligned on going next weekend because the second part of why this is in my best interest is because next weekend I am going away for a few days. And so the toast was going to be like a little- Rinky dink. Rinky dink, either audio only, or maybe even one day with a guest and like one day canceled. But if Claudia and I are both off, we can just like properly take off those days,

like both vacate and then come back and do it together as opposed to being rinky dink. So like just get into your heads that there might not be a toast Thursday, Friday, and Monday next week. Like just prepare yourselves but you know what there will be new merch and patreon yeah of course i'm not worried about the girls on patreon but like if everybody could just like message ben and be like embrace your inner dink that would be great you think that would help what would help maybe like i should we should have like a really crazy day

with the kids of like maybe maybe give them red 40. And leave them with the boys. And have them be wild and so much so that Ben will be like, wow, if we don't go to St. Bart's now, we never will. No, that's not going to do anything for Ben. You really don't think so? I don't know what. He won't get like, understand like the ink of dink?

He is pissing me off. Like he's pissing me off. Like I wish somebody would be like, listen, I planned everything. It's a dream. It's literally like one of your books. He doesn't even know how lucky he is. Like, pack your bags. We're going to St. Barts.

It's like I'm being like annoying and crazy. He's like, well, why don't we go somewhere closer? I'm like, first of all, like, I've already planned everything. So shut up. Two, like, I want to go to St. Barts. Like, period. It's not far. I mean, it's not close.

Like, we could just take a direct flight from here to, like, Turks and Caicos, Puerto Rico. Yeah. We do have to take, like, a little rinky-dink submarine to get there. But, like, whatever. I coordinated it. And I feel like if anyone would have a hang-up about that, it'd be you, not him. No. He's fine with all that.

And don't worry. Like, I found the best company. It's, like, a private charter. Like, I have handled things. And he's, like, just such a baby. Maybe it's just, like, me and you should go. Jackie, let's leave today. Like, I... The thing is... And it's, like, I keep seeing these just like me and you should go Jackie let's leave today like I the thing is and it's like I keep seeing these pictures and I don't know if it's is it

like the time of year where everybody's on vacation everyone I know is somewhere weekend no but like right now in this like everyone is somewhere and I'm not well you are in Florida but still you're working we're sitting here working we're working harder than I've ever worked before literally so it's just like it's sick i hate ben because i would be in st bart's right now if it weren't for ben and i should have never gotten married damn turdy yeah i said it he's being every time i bring it up he's like like i'm being so annoying i'm like but first of all like literally why don't like i'll just go stay with the tailors they would love to have me i'll sleep on the couch like he's being honestly bringing ben makes the trip more

expensive like totally fuck it you have to work okay go work oh i'll be in st barth's don't at me don't look for me you can't find me you should go regardless i'll go tomorrow like if it were up to me no no no that doesn't work see that doesn't work for your schedule yeah we're in us next week works for me like I don't know bed needs a re-out like it's disappointing that's all I'll say we'll work on him today he needs to do better he's like not even excited about it I feel like I'm dragging him to St. Bart it's like like an ungrateful toddler no he's real problems that's just kind of what's going on in my life Yeah

So that's why I feel hopeful Like I do feel like this trip will happen Like I really do I feel like if you want something to happen It's go It will happen Yeah I think where we've been though

Is like you haven't made up your mind yet No no I want to go But it definitely like is a lot of money I didn't realize It's like a different type of island It's not like And I love to travel and there are places that are more expensive.

This is like notorious. Like my friend texted me. He was like, you will have the best time. You spend $5,000 a day. Every lunch is $375 a person. Like it's just this place that's like known to be expensive.

So I need to wrap my head around like the money of it all. Maybe like take a brand deal I wouldn't normally take just like pay for the trip. Like get on Cameo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like I feel good about it. I feel good go find me do you guys feel bad for me the

thing is is that you guys like this life that I live like I make it look easy and I make it look fun and it's just it's not as easy as it looks I think you should get on cameo and fund your trip done like the thing is it's like whatever what is money you know it's a social construct it's it's not no it is we have this conversation like once a year about social contracts about money if is money a social con well yes money is a social contract value but the value and because even if we didn't have money like we would barter there is inherent value in goods and services goods yeah goods and services when it's like everything in like st bart's is like in a euro and so i'm like okay so if it's like five euros it's like two dollars. No it's more.

Yeah. I always think euros to dollars. I'm like okay so five to five. Like no not these days. Like it's more. Yeah. So between like the currency exchange and just like living the vida loca and my annoying ass husband like I was just kind of I mean going through it today, you guys. And I don't, I'm not saying this for sympathy, even though you should feel bad for me. I'm just saying what you don't know. Like, my life, like, it's hard.

It's harder than it looks. Exactly. Thank you for opening up, Turdy. You know, that's what we do here on the show. We talk about difficult things, you know? That's what we do. Yeah. I feel like maybe I should just, like, take charge.

Like, get Ben's stuff sent here and just, just like he can fuck all the way off i know make it happen yeah we're gonna make it happen we're also gonna make happen an amazing show an amazing show because especially if you're going like we need to leave them wanting more feeling good yeah satiated we gotta satiate that palate so it's kind of like our you know thursday episode yeah and what is it giving it's giving random ass oh the story's swear jar put a coin in the swear jar it's giving random ass random ass um but i love that for us i love that too how about your morning like i'm just feeling like i'm wearing a pink sweater you're wearing a pink sweater.

You're wearing my pink sweater. Yeah. And I'm wearing my jeans again. I feel like everyone's, it's kind of been like the undercurrent of this week's episodes. Like Claudia wearing jeans every day. You know what? I have a thought. About jeans?

I want to try on your jeans. Right now? No, no. Okay. But like in general. Take them. I'm going to try them on after. Yeah. So I bought three pairs.

If you watch the vlog on our Patreon, I bought three pairs of Abercrombie jeans. They're all different. Two light wash, one like a charcoal. One has a rip in one knee. The other has a rip in two knees. The other, no rips. And these, I think, are my favorite ones. I've been wearing them.

I've worn them three times now. I don't know the name, and I know that's not helpful to anyone. It's in the blog on Patreon.com. And it's on my LTK too. But it's just kind of crazy this renaissance I'm having with jeans. And they're also like not that uncomfortable. No, you look cozy. I feel fine.

I'm wearing a boys lie set. Super cozy. I almost wore that set in white today. Like, thank God. How embarrassing would that have been? Why? We're so cute when we're twins. True.

Yeah. No, it's been a busy morning. We did doctor's appointments this morning. Two years and six months. And it was a busy night. And's been a busy morning. We did doctor's appointments this morning. Two years and six months. And it was a busy night. And it was a busy night. I really didn't get a lot of sleep. So forgive me for anything that happens. But I'm talking about like what were you doing before you went to sleep?

Love is blind. What did you get up to? I got up to where you were when the new episodes dropped. Okay, so Jackie has the new episodes ahead of her. That's actually like very good progress. Okay. I really, I watched as much as I could. Then stopped watching at like 11 45. I tried to go to sleep and then Charlie woke up at 12 30. We were up to like one something. So like I said I didn't

get a lot of sleep. But you did the best you could. I am fully caught up. So Jax will be leaving at the end of the show and I'm gonna do like a solo recap because I actually have some thoughts and I learned this morning that Laura you know who that is? is she a toaster yep I got major toaster energy from her she's kind of the star of like the next three episodes like it really it becomes like it's Laura says this she says me you know like it becomes about Laura up until this point everything that she said I've thoroughly enjoyed and I was getting just like toaster queen energy from her yeah so confirmed I spoke to her this morning. Beautiful. Um, so I'll recap those three episodes where they returned from the honeymoons. I earned the honeymoons, the best episodes they are, but things just like went downhill so fast and you

can really tell like how much everyone's drinking. And I just feel like that's a recipe for disaster. You know, it's so funny. This was the first time I've watched a show where I really realized that and thought that a lot of the people in the pods and on the honeymoons like were drunk for like a great portion of the of the experiment you also said that Matthew had put out a statement not a statement he like left an Instagram comment he was getting like a lot of hate and Matthew's like irrelevant now like he's not on the show no but in the first like one or two episodes he was a main character and he was acting really weird and just kind of off and he did write a comment um because I guess he was receiving like a lot of backlash, just being like a little bit of context

that wasn't spoken about and maybe could help color why you guys thought I was like acting so strange, is because I live a sober life. I don't drink and there's a lot of drinking. That's why they have those gold cups. That's what they're known for. A lot of people didn't know.

And I spoke about it in the pods, he said, but it was never aired, that he lived a sober life. And so that's just can give a little context as to why you maybe thought he was like acting strange or just like it's a piece of the puzzle that we didn't know and they should have shared that um but this was the first season I've watched where I'm like damn there's like a lot of alcohol on this show yeah and when everyone's drinking like charged up meeting for the first time this party is just like getting really weird

fast and the thing is because I'm not caught up I can't like read what other people are saying. So I don't know if like things that I'm thinking are. Okay, what are you thinking? So like, AD's flirting with everyone, yeah? Oh, that's funny. I didn't take it that way. I thought like everybody was just kind of taken by AD. They were, but like when she was talking to Jimmy.

That was a flirty conversation. She was being flirty. Your thoughts on all the other couples. And then of course, the big thing that everyone's talking about was like the reveal with, it was really painful, the Jimmy Chelsea reveal. So my thoughts on all the other couples. And then of course the big thing that everyone's talking about was like the reveal with, it was really painful. The Jimmy Chelsea reveal. So my thoughts on the couples, I feel like the ones that we didn't see that much of in

the pods are the strongest. Like Laura and Jeremy. Like when they were on their honeymoon, I was like, these two people are perfect together. But now all of a sudden, like Sarah and till 5am in the preview. No, but also like bean dip. Oh, that's weird. Drunk. Yeah. Ann until 5 a.m. in the preview. No, but also, like, bean dip. Oh, but that's weird. That's drunk. Yeah, drunk.

That's true. It's true. That's drunk. Like, people, like, not, one, understanding social cues, and two, like, taking things in a way that's just, like, drunk, stupid behavior that wouldn't happen if people weren't drinking. Yeah. But yeah, that was really dumb.

Yeah. It was just, like, weird. Weird. Yeah. Because weird things happen when you're drinking a lot with people yeah, that was really dumb. Yeah. It was just like weird. Weird. Because weird things happen when you're drinking a lot with people that you all used to date each other. What do you think about Clay and AD as a couple? So I thought that they were so solid and so well matched. But then this is why I thought when AD was talking to Jimmy,

she was like, Clay's a lot. Like I didn't, I knew he was going to be a lot. But when I would go into the pod and it was a lot for a moment and then I left the pod. But now it's a lot all the time. she was kind I felt like she was saying like you know opening the door for like it's not the greatest because she was like making eyes at Jimmy can I say one thing that like it's like a little bit of a spoiler but like really not of anything important I've been it's like the vibes have been spoiled with like Megan Fox and everything so

it's just something small there's a lot of conversations between Clay and AD in these first three episodes. And he acts so bizarre in like half the scenes and his like eyes are bulging and it feels like he just took an Adderall and he goes on like these crazy tangents. And it's just like, I look up and I'm like, we're still watching this conversation. He's just like all over the place. And then she has a conversation with one of the guys and it's like is like yeah when I was with Clay in the pods like he either talks a lot or not at all and like people were just like commenting on his behavior and I really feel like he's on Adderall very possible like because he's just like so chatty so high speed and then like random tangents and I was wondering if anybody else was noticing

this like incredibly bizarre behavior and I think that's what she meant when she was like he's a lot it's like a lot of monologues oh and I also feel like he has a lot of confidence you know his say his ego and it's like the clay show all the time so yeah that is a lot he's like when I was like alpha male the way she was saying it to Jimmy was just you know in a way like hey things aren't perfect are over here yeah also um what clay said to her about like you you know, the way the gym has happened, a huge conversation. Death. Like, oh my God, that was really crazy. Like that's what me and Ben said when we recapped a few days ago.

We were like with Clay and Ben actually said this and it's so true. Clay is like actively going through therapy and like growing up in this process. And it's kind of confusing, but it's endearing sometimes. But then he'll say something that takes you back. Like, like the weight thing. Goodbye. Like it just undoes confusing. But it's endearing sometimes. But then he'll say something that takes you back. Like the wait thing. Goodbye. Like it just undoes all the goodwill he earned. Yeah.

And it's like if you're actively going through therapy. And bettering yourself. Like that's not the perfect time to go on a reality show. To enter a relationship. To enter into a marriage. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

But overall like I think he seems sweet. And yeah. Aside from that conversation. But he also seems like he learns, he understands pretty quickly when he's like wrong for something. So. Oh, what are your thoughts on Johnny and Amy? Blonde, blonde man, long hair and Amy brunette Puerto Rican. Yeah.

So they're like a couple that we didn't see too much of in the pods, but seem really solid in the honeymoon stage. Like, I think that he in the honeymoon stage. Like, I think that he's really into her. She's into him. Not as much, but growing. She's trepidatious.

Yeah. And it seems like he's not her usual type, but he's like an attractive person. So she's just like learning to become attractive to something new. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So I have a lot of thoughts.

I will put them at the end of this episode when Jackie leaves. And then of course the, Oh,. Yeah. Yeah, okay. So I have a lot of thoughts. I will put them at the end of this episode when Jackie leaves. And then, of course, the... Oh, the reveal. No, no, just like the couple of the season. The name on everybody's lips. Jimmy and Chelsea. The reveal was really, really, really strange.

I'm finding the reveal I actually felt like was okay. I'm finding like the honeymoon really hard to watch because she's so insecure. And like on the one hand, reveal I actually felt like was okay I'm finding like the honeymoon really hard to watch because she's so insecure and like on the one hand he's saying everything that a person that's in love with you should be saying like I love you I'm the happiest person here I feel 100% and I feel like there's a part of me that like doesn't believe him of course I feel what that's also because like I know Jess so when I watched the honeymoon episodes, the,

the, the, the discourse online was like, Chelsea's insecurity is ruining this relationship. And guess while that could be true, how I perceived it was like, he's saying all the right things. She doesn't believe him.

We don't believe him. I feel like he's lying and therefore gaslighting her being like, no, what are you talking about? Everything's fine. The thing is her insecurities ruining the relationship. She does have like reason to be insecure because there's something missing from him. And I don't like, would she have been this insecure with Trevor?

No. Constantly being like, you love me. Are you happy? No, because that's the thing. What do you think of me? About that like whole love square. Trevor and Chelsea were a perfect match. Chelsea and Jimmy are not a perfect match.

But Jimmy then choosing Jess, they're not right for each other either. No, I don't think Jimmy is man enough for Jess. I don't think there was really anyone on that cast that I currently know, because there was a lot of guys I never introduced us to, who would have been right for Jess. Yeah.

But she is like obsessed with Jimmy and I think that continues to be a thread throughout the show. She's still obsessed with Jimmy even though he didn't choose her? Yeah. Oh, that's surprising. Because I feel like. What? No.

It's not clean behavior. And he's so small compared to her. Like she's wasn't. He was giving her nothing in the pods. But still she like made excuses for him and rolled with it. Yeah. And was patient with him. And then he didn't choose her.

And I feel like she would be the type to be like, well, then you're piece of and the thing is I don't Jimmy is like whatever I just don't think he's who Jess deserves her needs in her life yeah I think that Jimmy got screwed in a sense and I don't see Jimmy as the villain in all this I think like he was really aware that this whole thing was being televised I think he probably would have chosen Jess if she didn't have a kid but like that was something he was not into. And I think there's nothing wrong with that. Like it doesn't make you a bad person because you don't want to date someone with kids.

I just want to say that. So in order to not look like a prick, he went with Chelsea to be like, well, I did not choose Jess because of her kid. I chose her. I didn't choose her because I was in love with Chelsea. Then he got himself into this other situation where he chose Chelsea.

He doesn't appear to be like really into her at all. But then things change in the next three episodes that I will talk about at the end of this episode because now I feel more confused than ever okay and also he got screwed again because he chose Chelsea thinking okay I'm gonna choose the childless Megan Fox right right so that's the first six episodes recap if you're looking for the first nine episodes recap it'll be at the end of today's episode and I I will work overtime to finish watching the episodes. They were really good last night. And honestly, like we, I watched with Ben and Zach, your husband and my husband, and Zach Shapiro too, this applies to, they are obsessed with this show. I've told you,

it's my husband's favorite show on television. I think Olivia and Shapiro put their kids down like early. They were like, we got to get these kids to bed so we can watch on his mind. Well, last night was a big night for watching. And I wanted to say, I feel like typically on Love is Blind, when there's a love triangle or a square, everyone chooses like a person so that everybody gets engaged. And then on the honeymoon stage, like these couples are like inter fighting almost like even with Jessica and Barnett and Amber, like she did get with Mark and they were all in honeymoon stage. The other people are not involved. Usually all four make it to the next phase. And then from there they can like switch around. Yeah. So it's, I would have loved for that to happen. Right. And what's interesting is how they all, and this isn't a spoiler, how like some of the

people who had like, you you know lovers that they left behind how they get in contact with them it's not like there's not like an uh i was surprised at one person who who connected with their ex like she dm'd him on instagram well that's not it would be dm on instagram then they also have meetups so and they all like live in the same town and they now have mutual friends because it's like think about laura who's a part of the group of couples is best friends in real life with Jess so I bet Jess could find Jimmy's Instagram from Laura's following we need to have lunch with Jess and Laura I'm obsessed with them well they all live in Charlotte I I was trying to figure out for the

first couple of episodes what city they chose I like that they always choose the same city because it makes it realistic for the couples who get married um and I like Charlotte I feel like Charlotte's um it's one of my favorite places. And it's also like, I feel like everyone there is really normal. So I think it was a good selection. I also am just always interested to see where they end up living.

Like what is like the young married apartment building for young couples? And it's like this cute, they do townhouses this year. They did like a townhouse style kind of last year. Yeah, what was last year? When they were in PNW. Remember? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah and also i want to say like the city is reflective of the crop of people you get and people i'm sorry

and i know we have toasters in like the seattle pacific northwest and i'm sure you're like cool and normal but the general like gist of like culture of people in that region is like freaks like you know it's like very like no offense it's chaz right it's lawlessness it's purple like it's very like so we got freaks when we were in portland slash seattle sorry we did and i what i remarked when i went to charlotte was everyone was cool as fuck like i really like charlotte very normal people and actually so far everybody seems to be like kind of normal. And when you go to their houses nobody lives like a freak.

Like everybody had like normal houses. Normal jobs. I was like okay. Like it was getting normal. I also feel like it's a religious crop. Oh I don't. I don't think so. Oh really?

I feel like there's a lot of talk about God. Oh I'm sorry. I thought you meant Charlotte is a religious. Oh no I mean in this. There's a couple like. No just Brittany and Ken. No but um. There was a couple people who have like just talked about like god's role i feel like that's like god i feel like that's like what everyday people like who are like

really not even religious just like people who believe in god like yeah i feel like we're always like people are always talking about god okay like that doesn't make you like religious i mean he's like the biggest thing capital h i am kind of as big as skandaval totally what about as big as oj kind of kind um so all that to say i think the season is so good because i think the city they choose really matters like when they did atlanta which I think was the first season ever. Lauren speed. Like we got good people. Like Atlanta is like a cool place.

The place really matters. They've done Chicago. They've done Dallas. Did they? Yes, they did. And that I feel like was a good season too. Cause I feel like just chill.

Normal people live in Dallas. Yeah. Was that. Bartis. I don't know if I watched it actually. Cause I did. I also to say Charlotte was a very good choice I think I love Charlotte yeah so it's it's been great so I think we should dive in because we still have five stories and then my you know not an episode your follow-up recap yeah my f-u-r my fur so without further ado here are the fast five stories that you need to know and the Fast Five stories that you need to know.

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Guaranteed. Thank you, GameTime. Our first story, Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey are reunited in Australia. They enjoy a day out meeting koalas at the Sydney zoo. I like how Taylor went to the zoo, like the day before Travis arrived and obviously loved it so much that the minute he arrived, she was like,

Travis, we have to go to the zoo. That's so crazy to me. Cause when I saw him and she was at the zoo, I was like, really like, Oh really? I feel like that's what Australia is like known for koalas and shit.

And that guy, I see Verwin. Yeah. Like I feel like animals is their thing. Yeah, maybe I haven't been to a great zoo recently because I was like, wow, that's like, who would go to the zoo? No, no, I think the Sydney Zoo is like a big thing. Okay, cool.

Like I feel what you're saying, but I think you're wrong. And then to like go again. But then when I saw she went again, I was like, oh, she loves the zoo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, she must have loved it. It's like the whole koala thing also you just reminded me of something first of all I'm just like waiting for you know pita to come for taylor for going to a zoo because like you know animals in cages etc for sure but I'm sure she found the most ethical zoo yeah okay you just reminded me I saw and I meant to bring this up on the toast I saw saw PETA's TikTok. They were talking about like their latest, you know, stunt.

They like do these crazy things. And they were boycotting Hallmark. I actually need to find it. It was so crazy, Jackie. And I'm going to give you a million guesses as to why they were boycotting Hallmark. Like what did Hallmark do? Okay. Could be like an animal on the set.

Okay. No. You're thinking Hallmark channel hallmark greeting cards yes okay what could hallmark greeting cards they wrote an offensive poem okay you're almost there ready uh-huh so hallmark has stopped selling cards that demean chimpanzees. Excuse me? Yeah. According to PETA, they have put pressure for years, including calls and emails from over 50,000 supporters. Chimpanzees may face extinction due to habitat loss and the illegal trade, and clownish portrayals of them can mislead consumers

into thinking that the species is thriving when they are, in fact, not. So take action for exploited primates at PETA.org. Like, insanity. So why are they exploited and not thriving? I think like you put chimpanzee on a Hallmark card and I don't know. Honestly, I'm not even going to pretend. No, no, no. Like the thing is, it sounds like the issue is that the chimpanzees are.

Actually facing extinction. Like there's actually like an issue with the chimpanzees. So what's causing the issue? Right. It hallmark no no hallmark is like portraying that chimpanzees are fine when they're not fine but like let's tackle the reasons why they're not fine no it's a good point like you like when i saw that i was like oh my jackie's right like they're always barking up the wrong tree and like no pun intended working working on the worst causes like that was i was shocked and they like dumped a ton of bananas outside the hallmark uh headquarters dressed up as chimpanzees like first of all that's a waste of bananas like no that's seriously insane on a list of one million things that are offensive to animals

it wouldn't make the list it wouldn't make one the one millionth list so you just reminded me thank you for the zoo well this would make the top of the list because tailored swift loved the visitor of the zoo so much on Wednesday that she couldn't help but take Travis with her to see the animals herself. The lovers received holding hands as they got up close and personal with Australian wildlife during a private tour of the park. OK, I guess the zoo is a little more fun when it's a private tour. Yeah, and you don't have to wait in line to hold a koala.

And you probably have your own photographer, so you don't need to pay $100 to the zoo photographer for some ugly, pale photo of you with holding the ko own photographer so you don't need to like get the you know pay a hundred dollars to the zoo photographer so I'm ugly like pale photo of you know with but you do it um I think the story here is that Travis is in Australia now that they went to the zoo um and I had read that Taylor like sent her jet back for him it's such a long flight he stopped over in Hawaii I think he spent the night in Hawaii and then flew to Australia I mean he he's done working she's been like supporting him this whole time. So it only makes sense that the inverse would occur.

But it is just like a really long flight. Well, he flew commercial or non-Taylor Ayer to Hawaii. No, I think he flew Taylor Ayer to Hawaii. Why wouldn't Taylor Ayer take him all the way? I think you need to like stop and refuel. But she has like a Concorde. A Gulf, yeah. I don't know. I don't know. Like I read that. But she has like a Concorde. A Gulf. Yeah. I don't know.

I don't know what, but I'm like, I read that her, she has like a Bombardier. Bombardier. Bombardier. Bombardier. I read that it flies faster than, than you think it flies. And that's why people like can't really track her. She's like zipping through. Love, love, love.

So I feel like he went to Hawaii Delta. Oh wow. Actually, if he was on delta people would have seen him i think he caught a ride with a friend okay or he chartered his own plane he's rich as well like and to go to kansas city hawaii it's probably like 50 grand i'm sorry but those millions like they're dwindling he paid for the suite yeah he literally has like 20 million a year no but he's made so much more we we went into his finances we know he did very well this year yeah i guess he could afford a flight from kansas city Hawaii for sure and then Taylor Ayer picked him up yeah perhaps

cute yeah why did he just go with her I guess he had probably a lot of like work commitments post Super Bowl like interviews team stuff and now he's like officially off for the season yeah so that's exciting I'm sure he'll like probably go with her like for a while this first show that he's gonna be be at, what's today? Is it today or tomorrow? I can't figure out. Well, today is tomorrow over there. It's happening soon, so we'll get Trav footage at the concert,

which is my favorite footage. The zoo is home to more than 4,000 animals, including koalas, kangaroos, and wallabies. Yeah, I saw an aerial footage of Taylor hugging a kangaroo. Cute. That's what I mean by like Australia being known for their animals. They have like a lot of wildlife. It's not like the Central Park Zoo.

You've seen it once. You've seen it all. Yeah. And it's like they're animals that I think are, what's the word? Indigenous. Is it weird to use indigenous on animals? No, because that's the meaning of the word. That's indigenous.

Okay. They're native to like the. Indigenous to the land. meaning of the word. That's indigenous. Okay, they're native to like the. Indigenous to the land. Indigenous to the land. Whereas like, why is a polar bear in the middle of Manhattan at the Central Park Zoo? I don't think he's there anymore, but he was for a while and it was like really dumb. Yeah. PETA.

PETA. PETA. Like, I have a cause for you. That's also something I've learned about being an aunt. That's been actually really challenging for me. And I'm, I think, you know, when God willing, one day I become a mother, I'm going to have to struggle with it as well. Like even a couple weeks ago, like no, a couple days ago, I took Michaela to like some sort of zoo and it was like fucking sad.

She was loving it. So I'm like, I'm putting my morals aside for the children. And that's not the first time that it's happened. I did take with Liv her kids to Lion Country Safari, which of all the zoos I've been to, that one was kind of nice. I actually think the animals there live a nice life. They're out to pasture.

They're not caged. Yeah, and this new place that we went to a few days ago, it said that this was a sanctuary and these birds were rescued. But then I was reading about this bird that's indigenous to South Africa. I'm like, and what is he doing in Florida? It just made no sense. I didn't like it.

I'm sorry. But I do it for the kids. Oh, she had such a blast. There also aren't any, like, massive animals there. No, it's like bunnies, goats. It's really not bad. Yeah, so. I was attacked by a goat, actually, at that facility.

But I don't want to talk about my trauma today. Classic turdy. So, yeah, we'll keep up on their globe-trotting ways. It'll be an exciting weekend for content for them. Yeah, there's going to be a lot of footage. Yeah. And our next story is another exciting weekend for content. Yeah, there's going to be a lot of footage. Yeah. And our next story is another Kelsey bit of news.

Oh, yeah. Because, no, it's not what you think. Oh. Kylie Kelsey has made her debut at Milan Fashion Week. Now, like, this is a brand taking the temperature on the culture. Like, whatever PR company, American PR company, was responsible for getting her there, like, this is brilliant. but how did they get her there i don't know like you wouldn't think like kylie kelsey fashion week but the name on everybody's lips this year like is the kelsey's right but to milan fashion week like that's just shocking the brand was to alberta freddy yep

it was her first ever fashion show in general and it was in milan like you want to start in new york yeah i mean like obviously that would have made more sense but i'm sorry i love like i just know It was her first ever fashion show in general. And it was in Milan. Like, you want to start in New York? Yeah. I mean, like, obviously that would have made more sense, but I'm sorry. I love like, I just know an American, honestly, probably like a toaster. An American publicist was responsible for this. Love. I love.

I'm just so surprised because this is a scrupled woman. Yeah. Yeah. Who can't be bought. She won't even wear a chief's shirt when her brother-in-law's in the Superbowl. She will only wear Eagles. She's, that's why she wore a red shirt. You know, I know. But what does that have to do with Alberta Ferretti? Like, I don't know. I just feel like she's so scrupled is what I mean. So to be at like Fashion Week, which

is just like a bunch of nonsense. No, she's so scrupled. And like, if I found myself like married to Jason Kelsey in the last year and like all this stuff happened, the Kelsey Bowl, Taylor, like I would do the exact opposite of course everything Kylie Kelsey has done she is you're right so principled so scrupled so low-key so not thirsty like couldn't beat me right so she's so low-key so not thirsty there's a million things that she could do and instead she goes to Milan Fashion Week which I actually feel like like is not that surprising. It's the most surprising thing to me. On a list of one million things, I think Kylie Kelsey would do it

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She's a fashion queen. This was a win for the brand. I feel like when it comes to Fashion Week, we ain't ever talking about Alberta Ferretti. That's just not the name on everybody's lips. Now it is. Yeah, and some more Kelsey news that I think you thought I was gonna say was that Jason Kelsey did a 5K. Jason Kelsey ran a 5K, like a local 5K to raise money for autism

and everybody's just praising him. And I'm focused on the fact that when I saw him running, his time was 43 minutes, which is what we did. We are professional athletes we're not i actually think like in like jason kessley probably doesn't run a lot like he's really strong but his job is to block so he's big hard to run i don't think that he like in his training is running miles by the way i also think he was raising money for a cause like there's no it's not great to zip through the race like you want to milk the

thing say hi shake hands kiss babies yeah that's gonna take up time even if he could have sprinted the whole thing i don't think that he would have yeah yeah yeah the longer he takes the more awareness he's drawing yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah love so that's the latest fashion news love from the fascists are you ready for our next story I am because you know I kind of have to pee I kind of need a lot of things I definitely need lunch actually have lunch plans oh my god yeah I have a friend in town so sorry like you're on your own for lunch so that's fine because I have cigar meals but like we're not gonna see if I wanted to come oh my god you are so welcome oh am I oh beyond I think we're also gonna play pickleball like would that be of interest to you i have a lot to do today you go i just figured

you're like taking the afternoon off to like lounge around with me and my friends was like not something like even in the car it's like you know you're always invited no no it's not in the cards and i know i'm always invited but then i wasn't invited i'm like i wonder if i'm even invited by the way i'll show you i'll show you the text he He was like, does Jax want to come? I'm like, no. Okay, cool, cool, cool. I always, always, you know. No, I know. If I figured if you wanted to come, you'd just get in the car.

I'm taking your car. Oh, you're taking mine? I don't know. It's the non-Tesla car available. I hate the Tesla. Yeah, yeah. But I do want to cruise up. Yeah, just me and my Tesla. No offense, not in your mom's car.

Yeah. Well, no, you could take the other car because if zach needs a car he could take my car yeah but like maybe i will take the tesla without me you won't know what to do how we turn the ac on so true um okay our next story what number three okay machine gun kelly admits he had a breakdown before getting a blackout tattoo tattoo to two in his new song don't let me go so the rapper has released a heartbreaking new ballad titled don't let me go on wednesday one day after going viral for posting photos of his torso arms and chest covered in fresh blackout tattoos fans went wild over the

designs many wondering what he meant with his instagram saying that it was for spiritual purposes only so i'm not really interested in all at his song. I had requested this story because if you haven't seen, please Google a photo of Machine Gun Kelly's new tattoo. I don't even know if you can call it a tattoo. I've seen blackout tattoos where people have like part of their wrist just like covered in black, like a couple inches. His hands, arms up to his shoulder, chest, boobs, and other arms like are entirely black like just

solid chest to under his breast and then to his wrists on his arms and i know that black out tattoos are a thing i've seen them in very small doses and getting three limbs, like, covered in black, like. Is it not offensive? Is that black chest? Like, that's like literally changing your skin tone. It's. Yeah. It's like the opposite. It's like the Michael Jackson antithesis.

Like. Yeah. Or that baseball player. Who did we say? Remember? He dyed his skin white. Sammy Sosa. Oh, did he?

Yeah, yeah. It's like the weirdest thing ever. I don't know that about him. So, like, it's giving that, no? Like opposite. It's giving black chest. It's giving black arm. Like what?

Yeah, is this not offensive? Are people saying that? You've got your finger on the pulse. Yeah, Sammy Sosa. Okay. This is what Sammy Sosa looks like, like OG. That's what he looks like now. But we talked about it on the toast.

No, I've never seen that before. In the Long Island city studio. We did. I remember it didn't stick with me because I remember saying like, this is weird. Like what are his friends and families say? Like you're just white. Yeah.

And he was like, he's Dominican. And yeah. So that's like very Mike. Like what? That's what Michael Jackson did. Like, yeah.

I don't know if it's bleach. I, you dye your skin tone. It's like one of the most socially off things to do it's just like weird as fuck um and i don't think machine gun kelly was trying to do but like an unintended consequence of this tattoo is like half of his skin is a different color right and is that not tone deaf i don don't know. And also painful? Question mark? That, I think, is one of the tattoos you have to, like, take anesthesia. Really?

Anesthetic for it. Do you think he did? I feel like he's so hard he wouldn't. Right. He, like, drinks his own blood. Imagine if his friends knew he took anesthesia to get a tattoo. Embarrassing. Embarrassado.

I don't think he did it. I think he suffered. I don't. I don't. Like, it's insane. And it's probably something that had to be done in like different stages geez ouch and by the way that's all i outline of the tattoo like the parts where it's not colored in it's a cross right so there's obviously that's what he was

saying in his song the spiritual element it's just really crazy is he religious I don't know and speaking of MGK you had texted me this and a lot of people want Megan Fox to respond I mean everybody right now in the world is talking about Megan Fox I know and she's not even a part of it no exactly and by the way she's not like a deeply private she's like a thirsty person she's always in the news like what can you say she should leave a comment and just being like, I see it. That's what she should say. Yeah.

Or like post like a side by side, like something like it would, first of all, I think it would really, um, like alleviate a lot of like the mean spirited things that are definitely being thrown at Chelsea in this moment. It would be,

you know, it would be a humanizing moment for Megan Fox. Like I think it would be a W for everyone. Yeah. Except Jimmy. Why? What did Jimmy do wrong in this situation? He didn't.

He didn't. He didn't. Like, seriously. Like, she shot herself in the foot, Chelsea. She did. And she made this, the reveal, something that it didn't need to be. It's true. Because unless it is Megan Fox walking through the door, even if you're, like, prettier,

like, if you're not Megan Fox, and you say Megan Fox, it's disappointment. You need to be the most beautiful person. Yeah. No, no. I agree. I agree. But she should get involved. I think it would be good PR for her.

Yeah. Well, yeah. She should capitalize on the moment. Yeah. Just because her name is in every headline. Right. Are you ready for our next story? And she definitely knows about it.

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Okay. Because Misha Barton has admitted that she and the OC co-star Ben McKenzie secretly dated during season one of the OC. And I know you're watching the OC right now. I've actually stopped because we came here and then the tv in your room has a roku in your guest room has a roku and the only app that doesn't work is max it's fine oh yeah i don't since the rebrand i don't want to watch i don't want to watch ben is really enjoying it because it's his first time watching it for me it's a show that actually

is not good the second time around mostly because because of Misha. Her character is so annoying and like pissing me off. Having said that, I think her journey with fame is actually really interesting. Has she written a book? No. She should. She should. So the last I heard from Misha was when she was on the Hills.

And I loved her so much. And I found her to be so smart and wise and level-headed she wasn't on the next season and it was like I needed more of her she should do like a full tour and she probably should have saved going on this podcast for because she should have done a big memoir and then done all this press I think it could be like what is she doing press for nothing like just telling her story yeah so I feel like she should really write a book because she obviously like for anyone who was alive during the time and like was witnessing the Misha Barton extravagance like it was crazy it was unprecedented

it was the biggest show of all time there was obviously a lot going on behind the scenes then she had a really complicated relationship with fame she actually spoke a lot about how um on the hills about how at the time where she was getting so famous like the biggest you know media outlet was Perez Hilton and he literally bullied her into like suicidal thoughts and he was just awful to her um so there's just like a lot a part of her journey and she talks about it in this podcast too and I think like a a book would probably be huge for her yeah like I know she's also incredibly smart like I I think it would be really insightful yeah so I don't know why she hasn't done a book I don't know I think she's just getting her bearings you know like just trying to like live

a happy peaceful life yeah uh so now knowing that Ryan and Marissa dated in real life well it's important to keep in mind she says that they like dated secretly she lost her virginity to him she was 17 he was 25 what i was gonna say um that's like gross who but is it gross on also like the casting oh it's like a good point they were having to kiss for work it's actually like the hacks they wouldn't know each other it's not like he sought her out as a 17 year old like they were having to kiss for work it's actually like facts they wouldn't know each other it's not like he sought her out as a 17 year old like they were already being romantic it's like actually such a good point like how is that not like against the law it really should be

to have a minor if it wouldn't be a legal relationship it shouldn't be one just ethically you know like yeah but also forcing majors and minors to kiss majors and minors to kiss it's like a really good point yeah like where's the accountability on the casting director and like so at that point it's like and i don't know if ben mckenzie went on to date younger girls that's not something that i think is true about mckenzie went on to impregnate and another co-star in gotham i think she's actually older than him and they like got married and like settled down i think they're still together yeah so like this isn't a ben mckenzie like trend gross thing that he did like the girl that he was

paired up with no it's by other people to make out with yeah that he fell in love with and by the way it's misha like she's so stunning um another thing that she spoke about on the podcast that I thought was interesting was you know she spoiler alert if you've never seen the show so just hang on okay she is you know killed off the show and they talk on the podcast about uh like the decision behind that like was that your decision she kind of like alluded to the fact that like there was a lot of tension between her team and the show she was really hot like not physically um like in industry industry and there were all these opportunities that she could not do stanley was writing like a comic book series for her she could not do any of it because she was tied down to the show and that is how it works but there was a lot of tension between her team and i think that

she was very isolated from the cast and she wasn't like friends with people and so when it came time the show needed a shake up it was like very clear that it was going to be her so she wasn't like kicked off the show but she was let go because of like the circumstances in which she found herself it wasn't like this like she she got she had to go I always thought she wanted to go that's she made it seem like she didn't but I don't think she was unhappy that they let her go I don't know if that's a narrative that was out there like I felt like that and clearly this isn't true but the way that I saw it was like she didn't want to do the show anymore but maybe if she had all those opportunities maybe that's not untrue like yeah she wanted to go do other things I think they probably both like I think they wanted to be

rid of her like I think she was difficult to work with her team and I think she was probably happy to be like over in the show that like gave her the fame she was huge a-list and then she had all these opportunities waiting for her and then what happened I think she had and this is why we need a book like because what happened to Misha Barton after the OC nothing I think she like had a the way that I perceive it is like she had some sort of breakdown. The fame, like it was too much. She was, I don't know. I don't know. I guess that would be in this episode?

Or the book. But is it in the episode? I don't know. Okay. I didn't watch it. Sorry. So maybe I will, now I want to hear more. Me too.

She needs a book. Yeah. But I was in the middle, not to be a traitor. I was in the middle of good guys. Are we going to come up with a name for Misha's book, Misha's memoirs? Mishuars. No. Memoirs of a Misha?

Memoirs of a Misha, like, actually is pretty good. But something like Misha memoir, something maybe like OC, like. Yeah, like something iconic from the OC that she said what did she say a whole lot of annoying ass shit she was always just like running headfirst into danger like recklessly yeah and drunk well are you ready for our fifth and final story yeah switching gears to something that is plaguing the nation right now which is that nationwide cell phone shortages are preventing most calls some even emergency calls so it started with at&t but it's a lot of networks now are down

verizon and t-mobile are also suffering service issues i have not been affected have you i had not been affected yet like i only know about the story because i read about it not because i experienced it yeah and like this is weird yeah it's just like what do you think it's giving like nefarious actors do i think it's giving bad faith actors no i think it's giving incompetence and i just think like when you're at the helm of multi-billion dollar companies, such as Verizon and AT&T and your service is so integral to day to day life, like do better.

Yeah. But how, I don't know. Why would more than one, if like just one party is being dumb, then it's giving, why is it affecting the others? It's giving like

hacker yeah I mean the thing is is like what I've learned just by being like a conscious adult is like my data is not private like every like every tech device service that I use is like constantly failing me. And I think this is just emblematic of that. You think they're in it for your data, this one, this, this outage. No, no. But I think maybe there was a hacker who stole my data, like in this, even though like I haven't really been affected. So maybe I wasn't like a part of the hack. Like maybe they didn't steal my, maybe my information is not interesting to them, even though I'm like incredibly interesting. Like I don't want to tempt them or anything, but like if you're going to steal someone's information,

like let it be mine. I'm so fascinated. You think that't want to tempt them or anything, but like if you're going to steal someone's information, like let it be mine. I'm so fascinated. You think that yours is worth stealing? I mean, who's stealing it? If it's somebody who's really into gossip, then yeah. Like there's a lot in my phone that you're going to be interested in. If you're looking for like nudes, I'm not your girl. Oh no, or if you're looking for government secrets.

Also not your girl. Not your girl. But if you're looking for like interesting things to talk about with your friends, like my phone. Are you looking for tea? Yeah, my phone is chock full of tea. So I guess it just depends who's doing the hacking. Yeah, what their intentions are.

And the fact that they didn't choose me, like they're obviously looking for government secrets and I don't have that. It's giving government secrets. You hate to see it. You need like a password journal. Literally. Those password journals like that people well not even people sorry margo ashrae had growing up were so insane like and margo was so crazy you guys about her password journal we i didn't have one like it was just margo right but i think a password journal isn't is a nice thing yeah for a For a six year old, it's like, what are you hiding? She wasn't six.

What was she, 10? 12. So the password. It's not about hiding, but I think having at that age something for yourself, as long as like. No, it had like a secret compartment in it too. It was really crazy. Like I feel like kids were hiding crack in there.

Like I really do. I would love to know now. And I actually don't even think she would tell us. That's how personal it was. Like what the hell, Margo? I think it was her thoughts and feelings. So it was one of those voice activated ones where like you could only open it. The journal would not open unless it was Margo's voice saying the password.

So I forget what her, I don't even know what her password was, but it was probably like Sneetches, you know, and Sneetches. And then it would open and we would like always try to crack into it. And maybe that's why she needed it because we were so goddamn annoying. But we were only annoying because she was so crazy about it. Yeah. And then in the back of the journal, there was this other secret compartment,

I think that had a key where you could put physical things in, like crack. We'll ask her what was in the physical things. Maybe now she would tell us the contents of the journal. No, I don't think she would. But it was so protected. We never got in there.

CIA. The CIA couldn't have gotten in there. Like that's how crazy she was. And she would hide it in like different parts of the house. Yeah. Maybe she needs to join the CIA. But like that was like a crazy moment in time. Yeah. Sweet sneak. But you're also something about turdy. She's anti-journaling. I'm actually not. You're not. You were at one point. Okay. Well, I think journaling is circumstantial. First of all, I'm not anti-'re not you were at one point okay well I think journaling is circumstantial first of all I'm not anti-journaling actually at all um I just feel like a lot of people use

journals to like mask like mental illnesses and like rage issues people use a lot of things and they also I think they use it as like a weapon against like well I can't I'm not a bad person I journal against self-improvement yeah right no and it's like I actually think there could be more conducive ways for certain people I think journaling is circumstantial I think there could be more you know productive ways for certain people to improve themselves that have nothing to do with journaling and I think a lot of people use journaling as a band-aid that's what I'll say. Interesting. But not everyone and actually like a close friend of mine who recently went through a lot was journaling and like telling me about how it, you know, really helped them. And then actually asked me to read the journal to strengthen our bond, like about what they

were. And it was a meant like it was actually beautiful. I didn't know that. Yeah. I'll tell you about it later. And I'm sure you were so excited to read someone's journal. Well, so what happened was, let me tell you, we were on a trip together and I went to their room to like have a drink before we went and their journal was out I was like oh I didn't know you journal

and they're like yeah because they had recently went through something and they were like I have found it to be immensely helpful I'm like that's so great and I really wasn't being judgmental because actually this is the type of person who I think would be really circumstantially how could be helped by journaling and they were like actually like I think you should read it and I'm like really like me I'm dying like I'm like trying not to say anything to ruin it and change our minds I'm like okay like sure sure sure and just like a certain portion um and I actually thought like it was beautiful and it was it brought you together well I felt very um honored like I would not, if I actually had a journal

where I put like my true, true deep dark thoughts like about everyone. Never. I wouldn't even let God read that shit. Never. I couldn't even put it down. Like it's too personal for even the journal to see. Agreed.

No, no. Making my crazy ass thoughts tangible is never gonna happen. Yeah. Like I'd be lying to my journal. But speaking of, and it's actually a perfect segue to your final recap. But when Jess gave Jimmy the letter to her future husband.

Yeah. I feel like he shouldn't have opened it. Yeah. And that's when he should have been like, I'm not. Before I do this. Well, he could even have said like,

I don't feel comfortable opening this until I've made my decision to, to read that that and also at that point like he knew he had a daughter he knew Megan Cox was in the other room like he knew it wasn't gonna be her to read that it wasn't for you agreed now yeah agreed okay so you can go love you bye miss you guys don't have too much fun without me. Bruno stay or go? Should I stay or should I go? Bye Brunello. Love you. Don't go far Jax. Oh yeah they're in the Abercrombie shopping bag. They're not hard to find. Okay so the three remaining episodes were

so good. Bye Jax. So good and I really want to start out talking about Johnny and Amy who I feel like have been like a sleeper couple. They're like so uninteresting but this particular episode episodes were so good bye Jax so good and I really want to start out talking about Johnny and Amy who I feel like have been like a sleeper couple they're like so uninteresting but this particular episode was fucking weird because it's like um hi Johnny have you ever heard of a condom and like I hate that he's like making this whole big thing about her not being on birth control like it's a choice like I've never been on birth control like I feel like he and he kept saying like it's not on the woman but like him making such a big deal about it it's like well you're like kind of making it seem like it's Amy's fault. And that's why you

don't like want to have sex with her. Also, like I understand like being safe and not having sex until you figure out birth control. And there are these things like called condoms and I don't know why he's refusing to talk about it. And like, who's going to get a vasectomy before he puts on a condom. But like, I feel like he's so afraid of having kids. Like, okay, you're technically engaged to this person. Like, is it the worst thing in the world? If guys have a kid? Like, he seems so afraid of it that I'm like, what is going on here? Like, there's one thing to be safe. It's another to be like petrified. And that's what I feel. So I actually thought their meeting of the families when his sisters came over was actually really cute. And I enjoyed that. And I can't get a read on whether she likes

him or not. He definitely likes her. But this was the first episode where I'm like, I feel like maybe they won't get married. This was the first episode where I'm like, I feel like none of these people are going to get married. Because in the preview, it's clear that only three weddings are happening. Chelsea. Now, Zach Weinrib thinks that because in the preview, they only showed the bride, that Chelsea actually ends up having a wedding with Trevor, which I actually didn't think was a terrible idea.

Wait, who's the other? Johnny and Amy. We see her in a wedding dress and AD and Clay. So there's five couples remaining as of these last three episodes, actually only four because Ken and Brittany broke up. And then I don't think Jeremy and Lauren have a wedding. So that's three weddings. And I actually feel like none of them are going to get married, which I don't think has ever happened, but would be interesting. Now let's talk about Kenneth and Brittany, uh, breaking up. That to me was shocking, but he did get home from the honeymoon and like start acting weird. Like what the hell is he doing on his phone? A lot. Like he's a middle school principal and that

whole conversation about him waking her up at one in the morning, like you wake me up, you're dead. And he was just kind of like gaslighting her into being like, well, you didn't want to be intimate with me when I woke you up at one in the morning when you had to up you're dead and he was just kind of like gaslighting her into being like well you didn't want to be intimate with me when I woke you up at one in the morning when you had to wake up three hours later so I feel like you don't want to be intimate with me now he actually was on to something because she did admit like she's struggling there's no like real craving for her to be intimate with him and she feels like that's a problem and I feel like it was actually a really healthy breakup I feel like he actually was done with her and then she I think was giving more of herself to the relationship than he was he kind

of like gave up when they got back from the trip. He was just like not into it anymore. And like going out late at night and like being on your phone a lot. It was giving like shady behavior. And I think it's probably best that they put it to bed. But I did feel at one point like they were the strongest couple. So now I'm like, I don't know. I don't really have faith in any of these couples. So we're down to four.

The big moment was Queen Laura doing queen like things. Her conversation with Jeremy was so gorgeous. I feel like she is a person I would never want to get into a fight with. She seems like she's really good with words and she's like low key manipulative. But in this situation, it was a good way because she let Jeremy just like dig his fucking grave about his location, where he was, what time, not knowing that she actually was watching his location the entire time. It was perfect. It was gorgeous. I loved it.

And she annihilated him. And like Sarah Ann is a bad faith actor. And you know what? Like she was onto something. I thought she was being like a little dramatic in the beginning episodes about the DM. Like him just liking it and like putting it to bed, acknowledging it. Like could he have handled it like a little bit better? Yes.

But I didn't think he did anything wrong. But you know what? A woman's intuition because she was on to something because he knew that sarah ann was going to be at the bar and he should have went home but he didn't what did he do he hung out in the parking lot with her and then went somewhere till 5 a.m like he knew when he was going to that bar that there was like going to be you know oh my god what are you doing oh my god this is the second time i've been accosted oh my god i can't be on What are you doing? I told you, I and Jackie said that I could help you do Love is Blind recap. Oh my God. This is the second time I've been accosted.

Oh my God. I can't be on this show anymore. So don't. So don't. The way that you screamed. Oh my God, you scared the shit out of me. Where were we? Where were you?

I was talking about the conversation between Laura and Jirami. How she really handled it like a queen. She like let him like lie, lie, lie. And then said, boom, actually I watched your location the conversation between Laura and Jeremy. How she really handled it like a queen. She let him lie, lie, lie, and then said, boom, actually, I watched your location the whole time. Look, anybody that spells Jeremy with an A is a huge red flag. Agreed. J-E-R-A-M-Y. What are you, nuts?

Agreed. He's a cheater, cheater, pumpkin eater. And I'm sorry, that's just no bueno. Especially, you can't spend more than two days being monogamous. It's so true. he's a cheater cheater pumpkin eater and i'm sorry that's just no bueno especially you're with you can't spend more than two days being monogamous it's so true it's such a red flag and this laura ann she's by the way i spoke to her this morning she's a toaster she's amazing her laura ann her cover take her conversation skills were actually like killer this laura ann i really want to eat it i was gonna say she's a homewrecker but she's a toaster no no no sorry you're you're thinking of choose you're the sarah ann and

laura sorry okay laura the fiance is the toaster i've been spoken to oh oh oh oh oh okay yeah so what i was gonna say is sarah ann's a homewrecker yeah of course a toaster by the way that totally makes sense she was giving toaster energy yeah we thought we were we were looking her up we were wondering we're like she kind of feels jewish that feeling we were thinking jewish no we were wrong close toaster closer closer closer now the other thing i wanted to ask you about did you hear wine ribs theory no so in the previews we see three weddings can you sit in the previews we see three weddings and one of them we see chelsea as a bride but we don't see who the groom is and he thinks that it could be Trevor, not Jimmy.

By the way, that's not like a good call. Like, that's obvious. Like, every trailer they've been showing us is her and Trevor talking and her screaming at Jimmy that he fucked Jess. So, like, that's not like a groundbreaking call. Oh, OK. You're just jealous because he made a good call like you did. No, it's just not groundbreaking. Like, I totally agree.

Like, Chelsea andmy are a mismatch jimmy's been gaslighting us non-stop of course we're supposed to think now that jimmy loves her but everything that they're showing us is oh they're they're showing us uh no let's not talk about the preview because let's talk about how you and i were both really confused in these last three episodes because for the first time ever actually it kind of felt like jimmy really was into chelsea for sure they've been fucking a lot for sure um he's like seems to be like happy and it feels incongruous with everything we've seen thus far yeah it's here's the issue here's the main issue the main issue uh is that uh i totally lost my train of thought with bruno no bruno's pissing me off like okay can you sit yeah like he won't sit down okay okay okay that's decent um do you already talk about jimmy like bringing two girls no oh my god thank you for bringing that up okay jimmy's friends are two

girls that he met within the last two years so the red flags were like the people that he wanted to introduce his fiancee to were both girls like you know people can be friends but like it's weird and she was like how long have you known them and he said two years so it's like is are those your only friends are those possibly the only friends that wanted to be on tv which could have been the case so we have to give them a little bit of grace but if those are like your only friends no you're right it's a red flag you're right those were probably the two that were most eager to go on the show yeah it's possible you have to keep that in mind but it was weird yeah it was a little weird right um yeah i don't know.

There's just like a lot of weirdness. Like I keep going back and forth where I think that Jimmy is doing absolutely everything that he can to convince Chelsea that she is loved and she just won't take it. She was so annoying in these episodes. In the first couple episodes. Jimmy was so right that she was clingy. Yes. She couldn't have been clingier.

When she was being insecure, like in Mexico, I actually thought like he was giving her reasons to be insecure like she was coming off annoying but her questions were valid like he was saying one thing but then doing another and these episodes actually felt like he was more invested in the relationship than ever and she's still asking these questions and she was starting to piss me off he spent the whole day with her friends but he didn't spend enough time with her that day no and it was the same day she kept telling her friends and then she said to enough time with her that day no and it was the same day she kept telling her friends and then she said to him like you haven't kissed me today you haven't kissed me he's like oh my god i'm so sorry and then he's like wait yes i have three times no but even if

he hadn't you spent the whole day with his friends what do you want yeah no and he's also these people are back at work now a lot of them have like remote jobs they also haven't kissed me today didn't she didn't they say that they had sex hold on what the hell no like she they're really confusing me no like just because she has a weird work schedule the man has a nine to five it's very clear i was glad he worked he left in the morning he came back at night they were there at night they kissed at night he met the friend somehow in the middle of the day they had sex in the middle of the day by the way his employer she really can't know the timeline is like confusing. I never know

what we're watching. You know, what day? Yeah. Are these different days? Because they go from couple to couple. It seemed like that was the same day.

AD and Clay, AD met his mom and they had this like really weird fight in front of his mom and sister. The mom is his age. The sister was like

asking very pointed questions like kind of like felt like they were like like attacking her her line of work because he's more busy than she is and it's like he has his own business she works different hours and she's actually not back at work yet because she obviously took time off for the show and I don't know I felt like they were just like kind of um like degrading her not degrading like demeaning belittling her work compared to him yeah and why are they having that

fight in front of his mom and sister yeah um i don't know because it's a tv show yeah yeah yeah but like uh i also i think that was the first time that she told us that she was a bottle girl yeah i knew she was a cheerleader i knew that she was a cheerleader but then we we now found out what she does no because it said her job, I think, is realtor. Yeah, she's a realtor. On the side. On the side. And I think she hopes to do real estate full time. And VIP bottle service at night.

And it's just interesting that she would be so, like, I remembered thinking why why is she so upset that he didn't sleep home two out of the seven nights when he was just sleeping closer to his job and they only met like a week before but it's not unreasonable for her to want her fiance to sleep at home and that's what I didn't like like his mom was just taking his side but like she's not wrong like we're engaged yes they only just met but they are engaged and your fiance sleeps at home. Sorry. Yeah, but what if his job is far away? You're allowed to travel for work. Too bad. What do you mean too bad?

Too bad. And I like AD. This is just weird. I want to do a prediction of who do you think gets married at this current point? We have four couples remaining. Who knows what's going on with Laura and Jeremy? I don't think they have a wedding. But of the three, who do you think will get married?

Because I'm going to say, and I said this earlier, I think it's a nun. Which has never happened. I think that, uh, Freakadeek, what's his name? Which one? No, Freakadeek. Johnny. Johnny. Blonde, Amy.

Johnny and Amy, I think, get married. And that's it. And that's it. And they're really on thin ice because like Amy's been giving out the entire time that her family just like it's so judgmental and like she's already given that out. Traditional.

It's not my fault. Oh, my dad won't let me. I can't. Right. But they're the only ones that like really stand, you know, a chance.

A chance. But we could see others get married. Right? Like Trevor and Chelsea, they're both hunting for love. Yeah. Right? So they could maybe get married. I don't think Jess and both hunting for love yeah right so they could maybe get married I don't think Jess and Jimmy will I think Jess is like obsessed with the idea of Jimmy she finally saw a picture of him she knows him personally she saw a picture of him

he's like a normal looking person so she's like you know what like she thinks there's still a chance I think she's gonna meet him and be wholly disappointed I don't think they're a match I think that they could be a match no they're not I think that Jimmy's actually a really nice guy. No. Who really does deserve love. And he's being dragged on this show. They're not a match. By an insecure woman. They're not a match. Well, I don't know if they're a match because I haven't seen them talk yet.

Right. But. So new episodes, we have to wait a whole week. It's such a good show. And by that time, Jackie will be like fully caught up. So you will be out of a job. And I feel like you can't come on and recap love is blind without like some big drama happening no I mean that was unbelievable your screams you don't even know like the blood curdling they know

they have the toasters know like I'm very easily scared but like especially with podcasting like you cannot come up I cannot open the door slowly you should have knocked i cannot open the door slowly no you can't last night last night claudia asked can you uh help me upstairs in the bedroom not one minute later did i come up into the bedroom all of a sudden oh really i scared you you asked me to come there i don't even remember that you asked me to come into the room and i scared you i'm gonna wrap up so just sit down do not move your microphone because the table will fall over no the table will fall over you want me to leave no thank you guys so much for listening to the toast and lighting morning show where we deliver the fastest stories you need to know every

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