The Toast - Loving Life Again: Thursday, March 26th, 2026

Episode Date: March 26, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:09 It's Jackson, Claude and every show the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off, swirly. It's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy Thursday. Hope everybody's having a great day. I am. You want to know why, Jax?
Starting point is 00:00:30 Why Jax? I need a long neck bottle. I need a juke box song. I wrote into work today, top down. I don't even think I mentioned to you guys that I got a convertible down here. This is what I'm talking about, Hojourner. I need to the new Luke Holmes album. I need a juke box song.
Starting point is 00:00:49 I don't know the words yet. Da, da, da, da, to stop my moving on. See, she's going to know my name. She's going to know my name. I'm going to drink myself into the alcohol of fame. That's a good one. Beer never broke my heart's older brother. I was listening to the hears to you.
Starting point is 00:01:12 tell them I've listened to that, it's singing every line. Oh yeah, the boys in the back with the beers a pie and the girls in the front row. Singing every line. I'm gonna tell them about my kids.
Starting point is 00:01:28 No, I'm not gonna tell them about my kids. I'm not gonna tell them about my wife. I'm gonna tell them about tonight. No, he says, I'm gonna tell him about my kids. Jackie, Lou would never not tell them about my kids. That's not the lyric. Hold on. Tell him about tonight is the lyrics.
Starting point is 00:01:42 I mean, it's the name of the song. Yeah, yeah. I'm going to tell him about my kids. I'm going to tell him about my wife. Like he says, and he's going to tell him about tonight. Like, those are the three most important. These lights are going to fade. Oh, oh, uh, uh.
Starting point is 00:01:55 Some other good old boy beyond this stage. That's so you. Okay, wait. I'm on this turned lyrics website, zipper blues. Is it surface lyrics.com? It should be. Ben should start a website. Oh, he is going to tell them about his stuff.
Starting point is 00:02:10 Obviously, he would never like erase the next. I thought he was saying, like, when I'm telling my story. I'm not even going to tell him about my kids. Oh, my God. That's terrible. Luke wrote a whole album about its kids. No, no. Not that, like, it's just in that moment.
Starting point is 00:02:22 Like, tonight, this moment. I can't believe you would like a song that says that. It's the moment. No, he says, like the big things in his life. His wife, his kids, and tonight. Yeah, so I've been listening to that. I've also been listening. I'm like, I'm overwhelmed with new music, you know?
Starting point is 00:02:36 Oh, yeah. We were talking about a song last night. Well, so my saved albums right now are Luke Holmes and the new. Ella Lingley album, which hasn't come out yet, but she's released like six songs. And there's one that's like really kind of speaking to us in this current era of our life. Yeah. It's like, hold on. Wait, no, don't tell me.
Starting point is 00:02:55 I was just singing it. It's, um, just like that I'm back to love life again. It's called Loving Life Again. It's so pargy. She is going to have, I think, like a Casey Musgraves moment. This album, I've seen, I'm seeing it everywhere. It's not even out yet. And there's like six songs off of it.
Starting point is 00:03:12 I just want to be her so bad it hurt so I just want to be her Dandelion like it's so good She's in Texas that's like the biggest song ever By the way she's two stepping around the room She's gonna have like a Grammy year But loving life again is just so beautiful And you told me that it's having a moment on TikTok
Starting point is 00:03:35 But I thanks to Luke when I was listening to his new album And I finished the album then Spotify Just started playing like Rando country songs and this Ella Langley song came on, I'm like, well, that's beautiful. If you need to feel joy and like it's maybe not occurring naturally, or you want a song that can be the soundtrack to your naturally occurring joy, Loving Life Again by Ella Langley. It was just really beautiful.
Starting point is 00:03:55 So yeah, I'm enjoying music. And so your drive contributed to the betterment of your mental health today. Correct. I was asking you a few weeks ago, like, aren't you just loving the drive? Well, sometimes the drive is like, not my own, you know? Sometimes I got to drop Ben off somewhere. I was rolling calls this morning. Right.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Like, sometimes it's just not, not fun. But sometimes it's top down. Yeah. That's cool. Yeah. Pretty cool. It's pretty cool. Is there anything cooler than a convertible?
Starting point is 00:04:22 No. As like a current user of one? No. Although, around these parts, I'm like, I'm not like driving, you know, 100 miles an hour down like a highway or something. Like, there's a lot of stoplights. There's a lot of trains. It's just like a sitting down.
Starting point is 00:04:38 I get like stopped at the train. And then also bridge. is when I go to the beach, like, some, not even loud. Like, I'm just, like, sitting in the middle of the road and, like, everyone can see me. It's like, kind of, I feel like the Pope sometimes, you know? Just, like, grab your hand back out of your car. I do often think about, well, so what I do is I put the top down, but the windows up. It helps with my hair.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Okay. And, yeah, it's like, my wallet's right there. Yeah, it's weird. So kind of when I'm stopped, I have to have, I'm very paranoid. I have, like, my head on a swivel. Yeah, of course. It's very dangerous out there. 1,000%.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Well, I'm glad. you had a pargy commute. We have a pargy show. And I feel relaxed today. Like yesterday we had dear toasters. There were so much like secret lies. You feel like a, you know, obviously it's a blessing, but like a little bit of pressure. Yeah, to just like deliver the news, deliver it well.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Today there's nothing. Like I didn't watch nothing. There's plenty. I didn't watch anything either. No dear toasters. Oh, we majed yesterday with a new card with the new 2026. We did. MJL card.
Starting point is 00:05:36 We did play Mahjong with the new card yesterday. And so funny. We were trying to get a game to go. to go today. And it's so funny because we asked like, we know like six people down here. So we were like, can any of you play? Nobody could. Usually we can get three. Maybe sometimes we'll play three people like a less than. Yesterday was the first time we played three people on purpose. But yeah, like, so we played yesterday and today we're like, who wants to play? And like people have families. They have jobs. Like obviously they can't. And when everybody told us no, like,
Starting point is 00:06:01 did you just sort of feel like a degenerate? Like, like we're like we're back at the casino. Like hey. Anybody want to play? No, because like other people have their, you know, other people go out at night. Other people like go on vacation. Like their vices. I have literally two hours where I can play mahjong and I'm going to take that. You sure. And if it doesn't work for everyone like doesn't make me feel worse about myself. Okay, good. I like that. Like I, you know, I, I know myself. Two things. One, to tell everybody that yesterday after the show before we degeneratively played three person mahjong, we recorded a Patreon episode full of Dear Toaster. So we did like a Patreon exclusive where people wrote in.
Starting point is 00:06:36 I feel like they opened up a little bit more since it's not on like the main show. And, we did Dear Toasters. It was hysterical episode. We also, of course, did a little bit of toast at a glance before we dived in. And then I was also just spent a lot of the day yesterday thinking about the girl who wrote it about your toasters. And somebody pointed something out and I just want, in case she's listening, like, I do also want to offer the option of not getting divorced. Because when you divorce someone, like, they do get custody of your kids partial, even if it's like a weekend. And then you're not there. So I feel like maybe you have to stay married to this absolute freak is a way to be alone with your kid. And you need to like install spyware.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Like, and maybe until you have enough proof to get him no custody. but until then like girl you can't be leaving your kids alone with this person for weekends that's a really good point yeah i just wanted to say that in case she was listening and i'm glad everybody reacted like overreacted in the way that we did like that was really crazy that was really crazy and can we talk like do you know that people think we like stage and fake to your toasters there's like theories that like your toasters is fake but i feel like we have debunked that so many times what the hell like who would do like how would i even think of that yeah no like people write into us and we help them Like it is as pure as you think it is.
Starting point is 00:07:42 If you think that we would write up fake deer toaster's to do like a fake segment on our show, like you don't know us. We could barely show up. Like we can barely get the Patreon out. If we didn't get enough dear toaster submissions to do dear toasters, we like, oh my God, we don't have to do dear toasters. The segment would end forever. We're so authentic to a T.
Starting point is 00:07:59 And if you don't like trust in us in that, then you're, then you don't know us then. Yeah. Then you don't know us. Yeah. Nice to meet you. I made like a disgusting concoction in this water. I'm like I want to fucking throw up. What you fit in there?
Starting point is 00:08:13 I feel like maybe I didn't wash it properly. Like yesterday I was putting like funky flavored electrolytes in there. And then I barely rinsed it today. And like I put ice in, but it's gone. I feel like there's something wrong with my Stanley. Like where's the ice? And then what else is in there? And like so there's flavor from yesterday, like fruit punch electrolytes in today.
Starting point is 00:08:28 I put in like lemon lime. And I feel like I put too much water and not enough flavor. Like it's just nasty. Oh, that doesn't really sound. I want to like seriously flush it out. Do you just want like a regular water? They're cold. No, I don't.
Starting point is 00:08:39 I already had my electrolytes this morning. That's what you look like you had already had your electrolytes. No, I'm like, I'm on my electrolytes. So am I. And I have my morning electrolytes and then my afternoon electrolytes. They're different. You know, I heard that you're not supposed to have more than one electrolyte pack a day. You think so?
Starting point is 00:08:53 Yeah. Why? There's a lot of sodium in them. Well, I don't always have my afternoon electrolytes. Like one a day is the max. But it's like my morning is just, it's sort of like a little tincture. It's not, I don't feel like it's like. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 00:09:06 I don't feel like it's a full serving. I'm letting you know what I read. On TikTok. She said that she's like an ER nurse and she sees so many people coming in with something specific. I couldn't remember what it is. Well, I'm thriving. So how about that? I think it was like kidney stones or something.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Except for my sciatica, unless that has to correlate to my sciatica. Otherwise, thriving. Yeah, I feel the same way about my coxidonia. Like, just now when you see me like, oh, she's thriving. She's a successful podcast or businesswoman, mother, sister, friend. Just know, I am suffering so deeply multiple times a day, like getting out of the car. No, my God. I am suffering so deeply.
Starting point is 00:09:36 I'm like the mom from Gilbert grape. Like, I need to be forklift. it out of my car. In this chair in Majong, my sciatica has gotten so bad. What's so funny, my coxidin doesn't show up at Mahjong. Oh my gosh. And I don't know what it is. Like I take my magnesium. It might just be like this phase of postpartum, but I do think when I'm done breastfeeding, like if it's really, really bad, I'm going to like inquire about what's the treatment plan. I think a steroid shot. That's what it is for coxidina. The biggest needle ever going right into your heart six, like into your bone. Oh, no. Yeah. For me, I've heard it, you know, deep.
Starting point is 00:10:08 You know, for me, it's just like cheek pain, but cheek. Yeah. I just feel like a little physical therapy is all you need. Yeah, like those like quad touches, but I'm sorry, I don't have time. Yeah, she's a businesswoman. A mother, a lover, a sister and wife, she rolls over in the morning to the love of her life. That's you. That's so sweet.
Starting point is 00:10:28 Yeah. That's so sweet. Us when we sleep together. Us. What was the last time we slept in the same bed? Like literally never. You're not like a co-sleeper with anyone but your kids. Like, even when we were like.
Starting point is 00:10:38 younger, we would take trips. Jackie, like, is serious about having her own bed. If I can swing it. But it's like, if there's like two queens and we're getting a cot, like happily we'll get on the cot. Yeah, Jackie will take the cot just for like the solitary confinement. The solitude. Let's think, like, we did Dear Media IRA like two years ago. That was like the last time. Ben was there. So we had connecting rooms. Me and Ben slept in one room. Oh, I love that for me. When else did we travel together? Meet in the Hamptons? Did we ever share? Never. No. Probably like the last time we took a trip. What was like the last work trip we did like before Dear media work trip because why else like stage coach but we always travel like we're playing with our
Starting point is 00:11:15 husbands like yeah but like why would you and i be taking a trip like national cms or something but i remember we would always have two beds of course two queens it was nice enough that i shared a room with you and didn't make you get your own room except remember that time we went to l.A and you literally made us get separate rooms and i was like seriously crying in their other room he was we stayed at the what's that hotel that starts with an end mandrian mandraon in west hollywood we got these two enormous rooms and i'm there all by myself like eating dinner i'm like this fucking in blows. Like my sister's in the same hotel. That was really mean of you.
Starting point is 00:11:44 But we had just come from stagecoach. Which was like over-stimulation overload. I think we were all in a house together. It was just like a lot. We were hungover. We drove to L.A. for one night and we were like there to like sleep and do work. And then the next day we were going to Vegas. And we were obviously we shared the sickest fucking sweet in Vegas. Oh yeah, yeah. Like we were in the same room, but we were in different towers. It was just like one night. And I'm like, you know what? I need my own room. Like I need to recharge.
Starting point is 00:12:08 And look how I'm still talking about it. Like I was so hurt by it. But you have to like know that I sell like I know that I needed that. Like and you ruined like and was it worth my mental health? Like I guess I wouldn't do that to you again. But also now it's like I'm used to having no privacy now. Yeah, yeah. That like oh, the idea of sharing a room with you sounds like a retreat. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:29 So I'm still thinking about it. I guess I'll be sharing a room or quarters with you for Dear Media IRL this year. Are you going to stay with me? I think I'll stay with you. Of course. But you have your own room. I'll have my maybe we'll share a bed so that you can like. Sure, Ben can sleep in the other room.
Starting point is 00:12:40 So that the next time somebody asks me that, I have an answer. Exactly. I love that. Sciatica. Yeah, there comes to, I'm not there yet. It's mostly, it's increasing. If you've been watching a show and you're paying attention, like, you can see I'm suffering. And actually, I like sitting behind a desk because the key, in case you were ever wondering,
Starting point is 00:12:58 like to sort of avoiding a true coxidinia, like, paralyzation is sitting like you have a penis, like sitting really wide open because it takes all the pressure off your tailbone. So if you knew what I looked like underneath this day, We kind of need to like implement the desks. No, I'm so fucking excited for our chair. For our chair for our remote studio set up. You guys, I'm going back really soon. I'm going to miss like everything about this.
Starting point is 00:13:21 Like it's been a joy. I love this. And it's going to be sad to not have this. But I'm wiping my tears with that chair. With your money. With the chair. Yeah, yeah. In my home studio.
Starting point is 00:13:36 It's so pargy. Like I'm very excited for the parjitude. It's, it's, me when I'm really sad I'm gonna miss you. We've got that partitude. Better have that partitude. It's booing me. I wonder if you guys miss the frames.
Starting point is 00:13:50 Like the frames are just, they're all alone with no one here beside them. What are the stories like today? They're amazing. Really? Yeah. I'm just sit tight. Why are you trying to spoil the show?
Starting point is 00:14:02 So people will leave. Yeah. I'm self-sabotaging, just like Dakota or whatever. They're always using those like therapy terms on Secret Lives. really are. And meanwhile, not one of them has ever been to therapy. No, they haven't. It's a really bad advertisement for therapy. It's a good advertisement for not going to therapy. That's so funny. That's so funny. End up like that. Right. Without further, I do dat do do here are the fast
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Starting point is 00:17:43 Thank you, Turt Bull. You're welcome. Our first story is some wonderful Bebba News. Sophia Ritchie Grange had her second baby, a son named Henry Cecil Grange, born March 18. Oh, my like to make Cecil. Seesle. The lion. the lion and Elliot is like British not like British he is British and Cecil is a big name there I'm sure it's a
Starting point is 00:18:05 Is it? For him, I'm sure. I don't know that, but I'm just sure. Girls who are into classic baby names, like yesterday was sort of like a Super Bowl for them, waiting to see, like, what the queen of class is going to name. Like, Eloise was huge. Yeah. Like, literally we were playing Majong.
Starting point is 00:18:17 And actually kind of something embarrassing happened to me at Majan. I had to go to the bathroom. Like, we finished a game and like, I had to poop. Like, sorry, we had just on lunch. Like, when do people go to the bathroom when you play Majjom for four hours, you know? So I go and it was like, it's kind of taking me a while. And it's, like, embarrassing because it's like, everybody knows what you're doing. I said I was going to the bathroom and they haven't seen me come out of the bathroom yet.
Starting point is 00:18:37 I guess you could have said like I was thinking of coming up with like a big fecoccly like the nan stopped working. I got a call but it's like my mahjong friends are my sister. She's a woman. She's a human being. So I just got back and before I could even think of making up a lie like everybody was just laughing. It was like literally humiliating like it's so unfair you know. Like it was terrible.
Starting point is 00:18:59 I felt bad for you but I didn't know what to do. I know I didn't know how to play it. I appreciate that. Like your solitude, I felt it. But like I appreciate that nobody, like, continue talking about it. I feel like we moved down quickly because you also announced. Well, having said that while I was on the turlet, obviously, it was scrolling. And I saw that Sophia Richie had her baby.
Starting point is 00:19:17 And the thing about Mahmong is like, nobody's really on their phone. So when you do go to the bathroom or you take like a water break, you have to catch up. I was catching up on the news. And so to sort of divert from the fact that like, yeah, I just blew up the tour. I came in. And I was like, Sophia Richi Annar, baby. And actually, one of the girls we were playing with, her daughter's name is Eloise. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:37 Jackie is such a classic name, British. So I was talking to like the target demo. And I was like, they had a baby. And they were like, what? And I said, Henry. And everybody was like, ah! Like, it was such big news. So personally, I'm grateful to Sophia Ritchie for announcing when she did to sort
Starting point is 00:19:50 of save me the humiliation of what had just occurred. You were able to divert successfully. Did we know she was having a boy? I don't know. She's been so low-key about this pregnancy. She has been. And I feel like if I knew she was having a boy, I would have been like much more on edge. Like, what is she going to name?
Starting point is 00:20:07 her boy and Henry is a beautiful name, a classic name. It's very hard. It's like, I feel a lot of Henry's are called Harry. And people are always between me. When we were naming Harry, we thought about Henry. We thought about Henry. We thought about Henry. He was being named after someone, Harold.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Harold and but just like for me, Harry's closer to Harold and I just have more of like a tie to it. But they are like, you know, you couldn't have a child, Henry and Harry. They're too similar. Yeah. So yeah, we were very excited. Henry's a great name.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Henry's a really great name. It's a really strong name. It's a really strong name. Yeah. Like popular for a reason. It's just so. funny how like people from your childhood like impact like a grown person's choice of names because like whenever we're all like going through names, Ben will be like I hate that name. And it's like the most
Starting point is 00:20:48 beautiful name ever. It's because like somebody bullied him. You know, like it's just so funny how like your childhood classmates like really impact how you see a name. Yeah. Yeah. I guess I didn't grow up with any Harry, grow up for in childhood. Harry's, Charlie's or Max's. But you know what I was just doing. I was talking to my friends from Colgate. We were just talking about someone. who happens to have the same name, same name as like one of my kids or whatever. And I was like, I didn't put it together. I didn't know that was happening.
Starting point is 00:21:14 And I did something I've never done before. I went through my phone and I looked at my kids' names to see who I know with these names. And it was very illuminating. I didn't know that that Max was a Max. I never saw him as a Max. You know, everything comes back to my deep roots of Morocco. When Ben and I were in the hospital,
Starting point is 00:21:33 I've always known that I love the name Ruby. It was our grandfather's name. I just think it's like such a cool boy's name. And I've only ever met one Ruby that was a boy. And it's my best friend in the world, Alicia, my Moroccan sister, her brother. And he's such. So you're a Moroccan brother? My Moroccan brother, he's such a great guy.
Starting point is 00:21:49 Like, everybody loves him. He's one of the nicest, like, most lovely, like, everybody knows him in his community, very charitable. Like, he's a great guy. His mom is amazing. Like, they're just good people. So when we're in the hospital, you know, you're always going through the people that you know. And we really couldn't decide what's name Ruby. And we're like, but Ruby should treat.
Starting point is 00:22:05 Such a great guy. We literally could not. Such a great guy. It is important, like the people who carry the name before. Yes, you can see maybe a little glimpse into the future of what this name could be for your child. Right. Yeah. So I had a couple of maxes in my phone that I didn't know that was happening.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Sorry, just quickly back to Colgate. Oh, I had, oh, my story. Can you tell? I was really embarrassing. But like, seriously, I just have to own it. It was up for 10 hours. Like, people know. Like, just tell your truth.
Starting point is 00:22:34 Wait, and just to finish out, I have one, I had one Charles. in my phone. I didn't even like remember this person. Oh, okay. A person from Colgate. And then I didn't have any Harry's or Harrison's in my phone. That's good. But I, but I know some from Colgate. I just like I didn't get their number. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You weren't close. Stop circling the drain. Just tell everyone what you did. Okay. I saw a post from Colgate University, my alma mater on Instagram that I wanted to
Starting point is 00:22:58 send to my friends. It was a bunch of like, it was an alumni roundup of like alumni around the world like doing like cool things, all different ages with like Colgate flags. It's just a cute thing to do. And I was just like sending it to them for my benign reasons for sending it to them. And then I also wanted to post a link for the shirt I was wearing on the toast. And I posted my shirt link. And then the next day I wanted to see like how my link was performing and the link wasn't there on my analytics platform. I was like, but wait, I linked it. Why isn't it showing up? So I went to what I posted on Instagram. And instead of linking my shirt, I linked the college university Instagram post. with like all these different people.
Starting point is 00:23:38 A lot of people that like were, I went to school with. Do you think like their college group chats were blowing up? Like, why did Jackie Osray post this? I think so. Definitely. It's a small school. I was so freaked out. I immediately deleted it without looking at how many clicks it got.
Starting point is 00:23:52 Oh, God. So I have no idea how many clicks it got. Hopefully it was just an ugly shirt. Hopefully nobody wanted my shirt. Yeah, right. Because no one said anything. Usually I would get a DM like links broken, wrong link. So maybe like it really was just an ugly shirt.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Or like it took you to something within Instagram. because it was an Instagram post, so maybe they just thought their phone was working. Glitching, yeah. Let me know if you wanted the shirt. If you had like your own personal experience with Jackie's link, let us know. My friends were on the floor.
Starting point is 00:24:17 I would have died. Like seriously died. But the thing is. That's always what I'm so paranoid about. I am who I am. Okay. So I did it. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:24:26 Right. What are we going to do? Like it's so innocent. It is. It wasn't a link to like a gun. Like, you know. Could have been so much worse. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:36 So yeah, that's my truth. That's my truth. I should stop talking my Colgate friends because I get into trouble. Yeah. Okay, cojourner. What did you said?
Starting point is 00:24:44 I said, okay, cojourner, sharing your truth. Yeah, I'll share my truth. I have nothing to hide. That's how I feel. Like, okay, I fucked up. Sorry. Surrey.
Starting point is 00:24:53 Our next story is really crazy. It is. Really crazy, and I need you to let me tell the story. Pascal? Yeah. Yeah, okay. Tell the story. The security guard at the center
Starting point is 00:25:03 of the chapel Rhone hotel drama is breaking his. his silence. He says, which is just a crazy thing for a security guard to do. He said, I take full responsibility.
Starting point is 00:25:12 Now, I saw this headline, and I was like, let me see, maybe he can illuminate on the situation. As I'm about to look at the story, I'm like, I wonder if it's the one security guard, celebrity security guard,
Starting point is 00:25:21 I know, and it is. So if you weren't around for like the 2010s Pascal, let us explain to you like the significance of this person. Now, a lot of people know him because he was the security guard working for the Kardashians
Starting point is 00:25:34 the night that Kim was robbed at gunpoint. They like all went, to Paris, like four sisters that had one security guard, which they never did that ever again. He was, like, largely, like, held responsible for- Yeah, he was fired after that. He was fired. His name is Pascal Duvier. If you look at pictures from that time, like, that year, he's in the background of everyone's pictures. He was famous because he was very good-looking. He was, like, a famous bodyguard. You could recognize him in everyone's pictures. Everyone was using him.
Starting point is 00:25:58 He had a true fall from Grace after that. Like, I don't think he was ever booked again. I think he probably does security for people who need less security, like Chapel, grown music festival. But like the world's most high profile robbery happening on his watch was like not a ringing endorsement for his security business. Yeah, I would say. But he's just like a handsome guy. He's like seriously so crazy.
Starting point is 00:26:18 And he yeah, he's very recognizable. I think I know two security guards in. Shango. Shango and Pascal. And it was one of the two that I know of. If it was Shango, I told him like I personally would have died. Like I would have had to go to the hospital to be desiccated. Yeah. Shango.
Starting point is 00:26:35 We need Where are they now? Shango, I think it's like married with children and his wife looks a lot like Kim. That's the last we heard from him. He was hot. He was. Oh my God. That storyline, like they don't make TV like that anymore. And like you wonder why the Kardashians are as famous as they are because they were doing things that nobody else was doing like making fake stories about Kim dating her hot as security guard, Shango. And the thing is that whole storyline was fake as fuck. It didn't matter. No. And honestly, it was the best thing we ever saw. I do feel like the storyline was fake, but the romantic spark was not. No. And the Kim just saw bigger things for herself. Like obviously she ended up marrying at the time like the biggest. rapper in the world. She couldn't like have just married for love. But if she could have, it would have been with Shango. So here are the details. Pascal Duvier, who the Daily Mayor reported is the bodyguard that aggressively confronted Ada and her mother in the hotel in Brazil,
Starting point is 00:27:22 broke his silence on Instagram Wednesday, saying, I do not normally address online rumors, but the accusations currently circulating are false and constitute defamation. I take full responsibility for the interactions on March 21st. I was at the hotel on behalf of another individual, and I was not part of the personal security team of Chapel Rhone. The actions I took were not on behalf of Chapel Rone, her personal security team, her management, or any other individuals. I made a judgment call based on information we obtained from the hotel, events I had witnessed in the days prior,
Starting point is 00:27:48 and the heightened overall security risk of our location. Of an 11-year-olds. My soul interact. He's been casing the joint for children. And recording the behavior of the 11-year-old. Yeah. My sole interaction with the mother was common good with good intentions, and the outcome of the encounter is regretful.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Wow. The thing is, yeah, he never should have spoken up because now I have two shit stains on your record, which is insane for like a civilian bodyguard. Like I shouldn't know your name. I shouldn't know your face, but I do. And now the things that I know about you are two enormous flops in your security career yelling at children. You're telling me you were at this hotel with a client. And he won't say who, of course. Okay, I don't care.
Starting point is 00:28:26 You're bodyguarding this client. You see an 11-year-old walk past a different celebrity that you have nothing to do with. and you've witnessed a pattern of this over your time at the hotel. And you've been talking to the hotel security team about the 11-year-old? And so you take it upon yourself to verbally accost, in the words of Amanda Francis, the 11-year-old and her mother, on behalf of Chaparone, who asked you to do nothing about this. Not on behalf of Chaparone.
Starting point is 00:28:50 I guess on behalf of his client. Like, you're looking out for your own client's interests. No, but he was saying it because she engaged with Chapel. The 11-year-old had nothing to do with his client. But he witnessed this behavior of the 11-year-olds and felt like he needed to get school. Is that what he said? I don't think he was doing it for CHAP.
Starting point is 00:29:06 He was being very vague. He's not on Chappel's team. The actions I took were not on behalf of CHAP. Right. He wasn't mad at the 11-year-old for what he did to CHAP. He's saying, Chappell did not send him.
Starting point is 00:29:15 Of course. He made a judgment call based on information we obtained from the hotel. No, I just like that. Events I had witnessed in the days prior and the heightened overall security risk of our location. What? If I'm the person who was paying Pascal.
Starting point is 00:29:29 Yeah. Like, I'm his client. And he's, yelling at 11 year old, not even for me, for chap. His head is like, like, what is he doing? I'm sorry. Events I had witnessed in the days prior from the 11 year old. What?
Starting point is 00:29:42 She made a friendship bracelet? Like, that's insane. And the heightened overall security risk of our location. What are you talking about? Now, I know he's a security guard, not a publicist, but he should have shut the fuck up because, first of all, we never would have known who, like, the unnamed security guard is. Security guards are just like faceless, nameless, but, like, big men. So I don't know why.
Starting point is 00:30:00 No, we would have never known. We would have never known. It would have been a mystery. And as now everything is clear as day to me. Because I think Pascal. Is the problem? Is the problem. It's actually like this really sort of, what's the word?
Starting point is 00:30:19 I'll help you send it out. Like where, you know, when you're presumed, when you're off your face. Exonerates. Exonerates chapel. Unfortunately, this exonerates chapel. Oh, for sure. Not in like the lifetime, just like on this particular incident. Whereas before, when no one had to.
Starting point is 00:30:36 spoken out. I'm like, I think Chapels lie. Yeah, of course. No, and like, for me, any excuse to doubt Chap. And I'm just like, Chapel, she didn't tell her security guard to go yell at an 11-year-old, but they do that because they think that's what she wants. Maybe he was, like, gunning for Chap's business, and he knew the best way to do that would be to, like, bully a child, because that's definitely something like Chap endorses. I don't know. This guy, like, just seems really crazy. And I also feel like when Kim was robbed, like, even though it happened on his watch, like, no one really blamed him. You can't. A gang of armed violent criminals against one security guard. The girls were going out clubbing. Kendall and Courtney. They just didn't have enough security and it was,
Starting point is 00:31:09 they then beefed up their own security, but they had hired just one person to guard all of them and they were all going to be in separate places. Yeah. You actually really couldn't blame him. But of course, he couldn't keep his job after that and they wound up hiring like Mossad. Yeah. But I feel like that wasn't even, even though it was a security failure. Nobody blamed him specifically. This is crazy. And he sort of just like let us all know. He, I guess it's like honorable that he would let. Maybe he's still gunning for Chap's business because it's honorable that he would really exonerate Chap and put himself. Like now he's the full on villain here. And nobody was even thinking of him. Like I didn't even know he was in the room. I didn't know he's on the continent. Like yeah. So strange. Are you ready for our next story?
Starting point is 00:31:51 I guess. Like I didn't know like yesterday that we were going to be talking about Pascal again. Do you know what mean? Like that was such important. It was such like a formative era of my life just personally. And I just can't believe we're talking about him again. I didn't even know he was still in the business. I feel like security guards, if we're talking about you, you're not doing a good job. If we know your name, if we know who you are. If you're making news, you're not doing a good job. Your job is to, like, be invisible and protect and serve.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Unless you're that really, really handsome Israeli guy who was working for Taylor Swift and decided after October 7th to quit the ERIS tour and join the IDF. Right, but so not working security anymore. Oh, correct, correct. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Yeah. It's a little Slamu update two things we've got today.
Starting point is 00:32:34 First of all, Dakota reports a third domestic violence incident to police regarding Taylor Frankie Paul. So this is just... But he just reported it? Ongoing, yeah. He went to the West Jordan Police Department in Utah last month, accusing Taylor of abusing him in alleged early to mid-2020 dispute. TMZ has confirmed West Jordan detectives have reviewed video and are working to verify details. Interviewing the parties involved were told Taylor and Dakota are cooperating with the ongoing investigation and no charges have been followed.
Starting point is 00:33:00 The more Dakota does, like the less I... I never cared about him, sorry, I don't even know what to say. Like, I never was on his side. But the more I believe, like, he's probably the bigger abuser and perpetrator of this, like, toxic cycle. Because two years later, why are you reporting a domestic violence? Like, only because, like, we're piling on now. Yeah. I still blame them both wholeheartedly for not making a safe space for their child.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Like, for that, like, I don't really care anymore. But if I had to guess, yeah, he's the one. He's, like, whipping up shit. Yeah, he's the one. Also, it's being not reported, but floated for the next bachelorette. Yeah. Maura Higgins, people are suggesting that she be the next bachelorette. Apparently, there was rumors that, like, Layla and Miranda would do a joint season,
Starting point is 00:33:49 and there are also rumors that that has just been knocked down by ABC. Oh, I heard that it was, like, actually being considered by ABC. I heard that it's not being considered anymore. And that wouldn't be good, just want to say. I think that the whole double bachelorette thing, they think, like, if they have two girls who are, like, decent, and maybe if we put them together, it would be great. It's distracting. Like two black shots, it's never good.
Starting point is 00:34:08 Yeah. And Taylor would have been, like, to have someone that's like just Taylor's runner up, I think we have to like shift gear again. Moore has like a really cute idea because everybody loves her. She's a reality star. She is very famously single at the moment. She commented like heart eyes emojis on like one of the rumors about it. So I guess like she's down.
Starting point is 00:34:30 They said also if ABC were to do it because they need to like fill all the air time that's been canceled for the next three or four months, it would be a live season, which is really crazy. I guess sort of like Love Island and why she's maybe kind of the right person for it. Yeah. However, I actually don't think she's the right person for it because I don't think she's interested in actually being with like some American rando, reality TV star wannabe. Like I think she wants to be with Brad Pitt. No, I think that she would do it for the opportunity.
Starting point is 00:34:55 But like not for actual finding love. Yeah. And also, like I feel like Taylor Frankie Paul, like the kind of guy that goes on The Bachelor is the exact sort of guy that she would end up with, like a rando, like, reality TV star want to be hopefully with a heart of goal. This also feels like as much as it would be like amazing, weekly national platform. Like, it does feel like a step down for her being like sloppy seconds, you know? I don't think, I think she's like a little too highbrow for this, honestly. And especially after this like really messy domestic out, like, who wants to be that, you know? I don't know. I feel like
Starting point is 00:35:32 the exposure of the actor is unlike and especially after this is the biggest story in the country whoever gets it is going to become so famous so i feel like she could use it to her advantage and make it high brown make it fashion make it looks comedy everything it would be a good get for the it would be everything except love because i don't think she's interested in some rando that's fine i want love what about love i know but like what we were going to get was so not love You know. Taylor. Like she chose someone. She was calling Dakota.
Starting point is 00:36:05 They broke up. I know. I want to know why they broke up. Jesse said on call her daddy that like when she saw Taylor during the Bachelorette, like when she was filming, like she was a different person. Yeah. Energy was changed. She was like just a, the old Taylor, new Taylor, like. I wish that had lasted.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Correct. It's sad that like it didn't even. It's also funny how people are like still. We're so like conditioned to be like the bachelor spoilers. Like people. still like won't talk about that she ended up with a guy named Doug like the show's not airing you guys what are we talking about and like why did her and even Doug and even Doug won't be like I won and here's what I tell you know the the news stories it'll be like bachelor contestant no it's a guy who
Starting point is 00:36:45 won or like bachelor alleged winner man I saw this a roundup of like right when the season got canceled um it was on page six Instagram it was like uh bachelor contestants like speak out for the first time and it was like Instagram screenshots of their stories um like seriously acting so drama one of them was like thanks for reaching out. I'm doing okay. Like they just got diagnosed with cancer. Like it was insane the drama and it's like for men. Like I got the ick. Yeah. It was so icky being like thanks to everyone who reached out or thanks for all the positive messages. Like girl, sorry that you had to quit your job because you thought you're going to be rather they start but like go back to work. Yeah. But think about like the guy who went on the season and became the villain and like maybe was
Starting point is 00:37:21 like kind of a decent guy. And who was dreading the season coming out. He's the one who sent the video to TMZ. I'm cracking up. Yeah. Whoever that. And the Chad. The idea that like your worst moment like you're dreading the same. The idea that it's going to mysteriously vanish is like everyone's dream right when you're dreading something like but there's no way it ever happens. This actually happened. That's so funny. Also apparently
Starting point is 00:37:43 these guys are still contenders for Bachelor in Paradise like. Oh I didn't know that show was still on the air. Yeah. No I think it like does its thing. Interesting. Are you ready for our next story? If it's our next story that's brought to you by Weight Watchers we've all been guilty of joining the
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Starting point is 00:40:49 RollerRabbit.com. Thank you, Roller Turd it. You're welcome. Roller Jurnet. Our next story, Ann Hathaway told Devil Wears Prada 2 producers. not to put models who are so skeletal and alarmingly thin in their new movie, says Merrill Streep. So Merrill Streep shared that alarmingly thin models were not cast in Devil Wears Prada two movie, unlike the first movie where fashion brands hesitated to have their clothes featured in the movie.
Starting point is 00:41:19 That was an unknown wild card. The sequel film with the support of Deborah Hyens. You just said like a whole bunch. Start again. Okay. So in this sequel, high-end fashion brands are part of the movie unlike the first one. They are a part of it. Yes.
Starting point is 00:41:31 Okay. They attended actual runway shows during Milan Fashion League. Okay. Oh, cool. It was a wake-up call for Merrill who returns to her Oscar-nominated role as Miranda Priestley. She said, I was struck by how not only beautiful and young, everyone seems young to me, but alarmingly thin the models were. She told the magazine about going to these fashion.
Starting point is 00:41:48 Right. She said, I thought that all had been, that all had been addressed years ago. Annie clocked it too, and she made a beeline to the producers about it, securing promises that the models in the show that we were putting together for our film would not be so skeletal. She's a stand-up girl. Well, it feels like it won't be an accurate reflection of the fashion industry. Doesn't that feel like body shaming?
Starting point is 00:42:08 Well, let's... Like, not casting someone because they're too fat, like it's not the same thing as casting someone because they're too thin. We don't treat too fat and too skinny people the same way because like, let's talk about the discourse around Ariana Grande, which I feel like people really did bring up valid concerns. Like she was during
Starting point is 00:42:25 the wicked, like looking scary thin. You could never. I'm not even going to say someone. Like a fat actress. Like, oh my God. If you made one thing being like, I feel like she's unhealthy.
Starting point is 00:42:36 Like, is she okay? She's going through something. It's the same things you said. When you are going through something traumatic, whether it's health related, mental health, you do become either very skinny or very fat. Like it is a very common thing. So you could never raise the same concerns about like a big actress.
Starting point is 00:42:49 So are you saying that people are harder on people who are too skinny? Not harder on, more comfortable. Because you know people behind closed doors say whatever they want. But like in the public sphere, what's acceptable? you can come from a place of true concern for a skinny person. I really hope she's okay. I hope she's in good health. I hope everything's okay at home.
Starting point is 00:43:07 If I saw a big fat woman and I said, I hope everything is okay at home, the names people would call me. And rightly so, that's terrible. Like, you are, there is more grace. You're still not supposed to comment on any woman's body. And if Anne Hathaway went to producers and said, don't cast those models because they're too fat,
Starting point is 00:43:21 like she would be dragged through the street. But instead, she said they're too skinny and she's a hero. Yeah, no, it's not the same. And I've thought about this a lot because calling someone too skinny is really not the same as calling someone too fat because the world that we live in really values thin. So saying someone's too thin
Starting point is 00:43:37 is like saying they're too valuable, too good. And like fat is like the worst thing you could be. Everybody hates fat. Fat is like what everyone's afraid of being. So calling someone too fat is like calling them too much of the worst thing, you know? So it's not the same. But body equality, you know?
Starting point is 00:43:51 I don't know. I don't know what the answer is here. But you're right. Like it is crazy. They're not the same though. Like you don't. Yeah, I just feel like it's not the sleigh that she thinks. It's like it's a good thing to have, you know, positive people on TV and healthy.
Starting point is 00:44:05 And I love girls with normal bodies. It's like my favorite thing. But like, like, I just feel like not maybe they shouldn't have let us know that she said that because that's kind of rude. Like some girl starved her whole life to be on this runway. And now she doesn't get to. She's getting passed up on the offer. Yeah. No, I agree.
Starting point is 00:44:23 Like, I don't know. I feel like it's like a little bit. not it's not inclusive it's a little bit not inclusive it's not inclusive and so I I think the idea of having like a healthy body image to look to at the movie and not seeing like people with unhealthy body images is probably good for audiences but like you shouldn't have told us that yeah right like do the good work in quiet yeah it does sound mean yeah but I guess if you have to like hide your truth then what are you hiding maybe living just living your truth my god said yeah she's kind of like you with your Instagram story like she's
Starting point is 00:44:56 Just tell the truth. And like, she, like, whatever, you know? Maybe she feels like. I look forward to seeing the models, though. Well, now I'll be looking. I forgot that this movie's coming out,
Starting point is 00:45:04 that I have like that to look forward to. Also, House Made 2. Oh, yeah. I need to see Housemade one, but they cast Kirsten Dunst. Did you read the second book? I did. I really liked it.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Me too. I'm looking for a new book for Ben. He's almost done with, you know, he reads once a week, remarkably bright creatures. And I was at Target, where I got the first book. And I was thinking maybe Ben would like
Starting point is 00:45:26 the housemaid. It's really great. Do boys like the housemaid? I don't know. It's like, why do I think it's for girls? But it's, there's nothing girly about it. It's a psychological thriller. But like, Frida just feels, yeah, Frida just feels girly, but she's writing for an author for girls. A woman's perspective, and it is about, like, women's thoughts and things. Yeah. So I really don't want to lead him astray.
Starting point is 00:45:48 You should be the experiment. The good news is that it's not, like, hard to chew on, like, it's very... It's an easy book to read, yeah. So maybe it would go well. Well, Kirsten Dunst. So the premise of the second book is at New York, right? Yeah, she's working as... Like this older, kind of spooky woman who lives at the Dakota.
Starting point is 00:46:03 But she's also like a hit woman, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. People hire her. She's now like a house made for hire. Yeah, where she'll kill your husband. Right. She's abusing you. Right.
Starting point is 00:46:12 And so Kirsten Dunst is like this very wealthy woman who's like being held to, you know, ransom... Right, or is she? In the famous Dakota building. I wonder if there. Like, you can't do anything there. where John Lennon was shot. So they probably won't if you can't do anything.
Starting point is 00:46:27 There's plenty of places. They'll use like the only murders building. Yeah, right, right, right. Cool. What was the story? Oh, yeah, cool. The other one was proud of two with healthy models. Every time I hear about Anne Hathaway, like in her personal life, they call her Annie.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Yeah. Which is cute. I like that. Fifth and final story, you know what it is. Thursday. Oh, yeah, it's Thursday. Massing reveal. The pangolin.
Starting point is 00:46:49 I did keep up last night. The pangolin has been revealed the identity of the pangolin. Spoiler alert is Rachel Platten. You know what's so funny is that Teddy Mellencamp was on this season singing a Rachel Platin song. That must have been weird. That must have been weird. But what's really crazy is Rachel Patton's amazing singer.
Starting point is 00:47:08 Pugasso alleged Philip Phillips is an amazing singer. Like there's amazing singers on mass singer. I was never going to win. Like literally, I was never going to make that far. So I feel like Pugasso has to win because he's an who could be a better singer than him. Like literally nobody. Right. But is it just about your voices?
Starting point is 00:47:25 Isn't it also about the performance? It's about a lot. What you can do with that thing? And that's the other thing. No matter how talented you are, it's really about who like can sing their best in the costume. Like it's a vocal performance. It's a breath work like, right.
Starting point is 00:47:39 Choose the songs. Do the little choreography. So yes, it is of course talent base. But there's a lot of things besides the singing. And what is a pangolin? No idea. She's going through her own like sort of Taylor Swift record label. She recorded...
Starting point is 00:47:54 From a Kia asylum. Straight from herself. She is a Kia asylum, which is sad because I feel like there are certain people in the key asylum who are there
Starting point is 00:48:00 because of like really bad record deals. And that's really sad. Like Kesha almost. Someone commented or DM me something that was a fire point that I need to raise here that an amazing replacement
Starting point is 00:48:11 for Kelly Clarkson. Kiki Pummer, I said it. Miley Cyrus. Oh yeah. Miley Oki. It's giving backyard sessions. It is. The only thing about Miley
Starting point is 00:48:20 is she herself. beams with so much personality. And she doesn't have a lot of experience being a host. She's always being interviewed because she's the interesting one. She's the talented one. And Kelly's real skill has been able to pull back and engage, you know, talk about her own self, but really highlighting her. And I think people love going on her show.
Starting point is 00:48:39 It's a pleasant experience. Kiki Palmer is like bursting with personality, but she has a lot of experience hosting. She knows how to take a back seat. I worry that Miley might not know how to take a back seat. But she could learn. She could get a little bit of training. I feel like she might be like the warm.
Starting point is 00:48:52 inviting presence. Southern. Like I think she's just as good of a recommendation as Kiki. And I think that she would crush Kelly Yoki. Yeah, I agree. As good as Kelly. Like, she does covers.
Starting point is 00:49:04 I don't think that Miley's also down to like enter that sort of sunset era of her career. She just released another album. Like I think she's really, I think she's continuing to do like the album tour press circuit. I don't know if you noticed that. Yeah. She doesn't really do tours. She does like some live shows around those.
Starting point is 00:49:21 She does like big headlines. And so that's what Kelly is. She was releasing music, you know, because she likes to make music and also doing the show. I feel like Miley's sort of in an era where she does music when she wants to, but like she could do a job. Yeah. No, it's a good recommendation. I still think Kiki Palmer would be better. I really do.
Starting point is 00:49:38 I do feel like who replaces Kelly Clarkson is going to be some of like the biggest casting news drama of like the last decade. It's such a big deal. It is a big deal. I kind of am voting for Miley now, even though everyone who we recommend were like they the amazing pink Pink would be even though I still don't think pink is right
Starting point is 00:49:56 for it Why? I think she's too polarizing What if she could tone it back? She couldn't That's why she's so great Like she is herself And that's why people love her
Starting point is 00:50:06 Like she speaks her mind Even if it's gonna forsake opportunities So no I think it's Miley's to lose Or Joanna Gaines She's just like heavy on my mind right now But we need music Oh right
Starting point is 00:50:17 And she could have her own show Yeah yeah But the Kelly show Is just as much about The musicality And she's very entrenched with discovery, HBO. And she's got a lot of jobs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:29 Yeah. Just throwing in there? No, it's a very hard role to fill. We do have a couple of good people floating. We do. Like better than most, we usually have nothing. I feel like it kind of is a Venn diagram also of people we recommend for the Super Bowl. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:49 Like very all-American, people that everyone loves. Because we've said pink. We've said Kelly Clarkson. We said Miley. Yeah. Luke Holmes was on a podcast being like he wants it so bad. I love that he put it out there. Give it to him.
Starting point is 00:51:00 I feel like people like artists, like famous people never say what they want. Because in case he don't get it or whatever. But I love that he put it out there. He's like, call me. Like, I will do it. And he will kill it. I forget when I go, like, because I know Luke's like whole discography, but I forget when I go to a concert of his and he plays like his hits,
Starting point is 00:51:14 which aren't even my favorite. Like he's like Taylor Swift level in terms of songs that everyone loves. Like one number away, Hurricane. Like he has those sort of ubiquitous huge hits. I think he could do it. But you also like don't need to be an artist that every single person. is obsessed with to do the Super Bowl anymore. Yes, that's true.
Starting point is 00:51:28 It has become more... You have to be chosen. Less genre specific. Except they don't really do a lot of country. No, they don't. But, like... The last few years, like... I mean, Bad Bunny is the biggest artist in the world,
Starting point is 00:51:40 but, like... So, I'm not talking about him, but, like, Kendrick Lamar isn't... Right, it's more niche. Has a million songs that everybody knows the words. Everybody knows the word, too. No. Right, right. Who was before?
Starting point is 00:51:50 Usher. Usher does have a million songs that everybody... Yeah, yeah. Usher was a good one. I think Usher was a good choice, too. It's funny. It was a good choice. When you look, I didn't love his performance.
Starting point is 00:51:58 It's funny how when you look back, it's like your opinion at the time, like, it all ages, you know. Yeah. So I don't remember what I thought. I feel like I was pleased with the Usher choice at the time. And like now when I feel like the same was like with the weekend. It was actually a good choice. He has so many, like top 10 radio hits set. Like your grandparents know.
Starting point is 00:52:20 I can't believe he did the Super Bowl. I literally always forget that. And his performance was also really bad. Yeah. No, I always forget. Yeah. Damn. Rihanna was amazing.
Starting point is 00:52:31 Why hasn't Rihanna Grande done it? She's like at that level, no? Somewhat recently, maybe. No, but like, yeah, I don't know. I feel like she's a little niche. She's a little just like pop for the girls. Corner of the pop. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:46 Yeah, maybe it's not all-American. No, it's really like for the girlie girls. At the time, and even in hindsight, I can acknowledge like Justin Timber, like was a good choice. No. And I don't think I ever even saw his performance because we were there in real life and I couldn't hear anything
Starting point is 00:53:00 so I don't think I ever watched it like on TV. I just reached the era I missed the era where like Bruno Mars and Beyonce were like doing rotations like that was good No like do Bruno Mars again It will always be a good choice It's true. He is like really the only person that's for everyone
Starting point is 00:53:13 And like nobody would have a bad thing to say about No one Yeah No one Just do it. Yeah Oh that's always fun The Super Bowl
Starting point is 00:53:21 Yeah who's gonna do the half time Well because it was rumored up until they announced it, I thought it was literally confirmed that it was Miley. Do you remember that? Yeah, I remember I saw fake news that it was. Yeah, and I don't know if that was like ever rooted in any truth. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:34 Or I just got got got by AI generated content, but I thought it was her. And you know what she also could do it? Was that the fifth story? Yeah, Pangolin. Rachel Platton for the Super Bowl. Rachel, no. But it is weird.
Starting point is 00:53:45 She probably made more money than everybody else because she also was earning a royalty check because her song got sung. But they don't put your songs on, like Spotify or anything. No, but you have to pay to like, You think so? For sure.
Starting point is 00:53:56 You get it cleared legally. Like, you have to pay the publishing rights, right? How much you have to pay? Oh, I don't know. How much do you pay? How much you have no idea? I think she gave it to me for free. How much do you pay Sia?
Starting point is 00:54:05 They both gave it to me for free because they were like such big fans of Corey. Imagine if you were still on Massinger. Exhausting. Like, keeping up the lie. I couldn't do it. No, it's actually a lot. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:16 That was literally like the highlight of my year. I can't look that was while I was here. No, like it's so crazy. Yeah. Queen Corgi. Such a queen. She's such a queen. Now I feel like enough time has passed where I actually look back on it really fondly.
Starting point is 00:54:30 It's still the picture of our group chat is queen and cup corgi. So cute. Yeah. Oh, we have to go home to our kids. I can't. Well, the show's over, so. Can't wait. Okay.
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