The Toast - Maid From Manhattan: Monday, June 29th, 2026

Episode Date: June 29, 2026

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It's Jackson, Claude and favorite show, the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off, swirly, it's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy Monday. Hope everybody had an amazing weekend. And speaking of amazing, today's co-host is sort of this mysterious figure who we've been dying to get on the podcast. I think a lot of people weren't expecting you to be the co-host when they knew Jackie was going to be out today. Yeah, that's right.

It's very elusive celebrity chef, my husband, Ben Saffer. Swirley, how you doing? I'm doing excellent on this warm morning. How are you, darling? It's so warm in Manhattan. I'm so unhappy. I realized, actually, over the weekend, like, my, I used to think, like, my personal trigger was being hungry.

Like, if I'm hungry, like, I become a monster. Now, I do become a monster when I'm hungry, but that's not my trigger. Your trigger is heat. When I get, we've all, we've all known this for quite some time. When I get overheated, like, I'm not okay. And the fact that it is so hot. And people are not respecting air conditioning as much as I need them to. It is such an unpleasant way.

I cannot wait for swirly summer to begin. I gotta get out of the city. The city's like 15 degrees hotter than all the suburbs. I was going to say, and the city is 15 degrees hotter, well, really seven degrees hotter than the actual temperature. You ask Alexa,

how hot is it today? Alexa, it's 75, but feels like 82. And let me tell you, that feels like 7 degrees moisture. It's the heat of people, of buildings, of subways, like it's just fucking insufferable. It's really disgusting.

We went to the Natural History Museum this weekend. We did. Which is really my favorite place on Earth. And let me tell you, I think you were too warm. So we went last weekend, and it was so magical. It was. It was. It was.

And it was kind of empty. It was just like a really beautiful afternoon. We were seeing the magic of the museum through the eyes of children. Like, it was just insanely beautiful. So this weekend, we tried to recreate it. Plus, it was raining. So we were like, okay, great, in indoor activity. We were obviously not the only people who thought that,

because not only was the museum so packed, we dressed, really warm, like, we dressed warm. That was a mistake. We put Ruby in pants. I was in a sweatshirt and leggings because it was so fucking cold inside the, oh my God, it was so fucking hot. Let me tell you, it was the least magical experience I've had in my life. So you know, I am always dressed for warm weather.

Yeah. I'm just saying a sweatshirt, by the way. A sweatshirt to the museum was unnecessary. That's male privilege. It's the middle of the summer. Not all of us can have our legs out on a podcast. Okay, by the way. Some of us are just like held to a higher beauty standard.

Doesn't have to be legs. So you're like, oh. You couldn't have worn a t-shirt to the museum? I forgot to tell you. You couldn't have worn a t-shirt to the museum? The most annoying thing at the museum. Like, when we hopped out of the car, I'm sure I said a lot of annoying things. When we hopped out of the car, it was like so hot.

And he was like, well, you're wearing a sweatshirt. By the way. I just had a baby. Like, that's insane. By the way, you need to start. I think you need to buy more long-sleeve t-shirts. Okay. The long-sleeve t-shirt.

I'm wearing a regular t-shirt, Toastmarch.com. Accomplishes exactly what you're looking to accomplish out of this sweater, except it's made of cotton. I didn't intend for this episode. to become like a referendum on my wardrobe like obviously I'm in a transitional period and I don't want to talk about you fucking dick I mean I think you brought it up I'm pretty sure you did um we watched so much TV this weekend that we're going to talk about in the stories so before we dive in how are you I'm good I'm warm you're warm I'm warm but I'm wonderful about that I'm wonderful yeah um you know you want to update everyone on the last time we were here was somewhat recently wow

jack has been taking a lot of days off I really I really don't know I have a small rash on my back that we're monitoring we are oh you know I have a little I have a little I don't know I have I haven't seen it today. Should we see it? You want to see it? Well, don't show the camera, but maybe you want to step off camera and show it to me. I haven't checked on it. Let me know.

It's a small rash. Yeah, Ben woke up on Saturday with like, not a small, it kind of like a huge ass rash. Gone. Really? Yep. Oh, I see some remnants of it on the side, but it's, you're gone. You have 10% left. Oh, and your-

Ladies, you can use your imagination. And let me just tell you something that I've already told you once today, your fly is open. By the way, I don't think. I think it's a- I don't think that I pulled it up when you told me. All right, now that's... Let's see if it comes down. We watched golf yesterday. Kind of big news.

We always cover golf here on the toast because Jackie watches that show, full swing. So she rarely knows a lot about golf. I wonder if she knows about Hovland. Hovland, yes. The Hovland. Has the tournament picked up this morning? It might have.

We should honestly check and see... It went to a tie break. Scotty Sheppler like kind of like the club. Scotty is just so unbelievably clutch. Yeah. He is like the tiger of our era. He is really just so head and shoulders, leaps and bounds.

better than the other players. We looked at each other and we said, Scotty, Scotty's going to make that putt. And guess what fucking happened? Scotty made that put. Forced a playoff. There was a rain delay. It got too dark.

So they were resuming this morning. And of course, we're talking about the Travelers Championship. Oh, yeah. You guys don't know travelers? The Travelers Cup, the Travelers Championship. Can we see? I think it's the Travelers. I don't know if it's Cup or championship.

Because other guy's not American. And like... Yeah, but Victor Hovlin's a nice guy. He's got to get out of here. Actually, I don't know if he's a nice guy. He's Finnish. Men like you are the ones and I left Finland. They start at nine.

So we'll be getting live updates. Great, keep us update. What happens when a tournament goes into a tie? Is it like... I think they play... One hole? I don't know. I think three.

One wouldn't be fair. Best of three. Yeah. I really don't know, though. I'm making that up. We played so many games this weekend because Ben and I have been doing this thing where we turn our phones off for like 25 hours over the course of Shabbat. It's been really lovely.

It's something Ben started. Yes. That, like, he was annoying about until I then joined him. And it's like, you know what? I understand why you were being patronizing. Yes. Because we're definitely like living in the physical world while others are living in the metaphysical. Correct.

And so we played so many games. We played cards all weekend. We played, um, like, we just have, we really had such a great thing. What is that name of that game, 25? It's a game that like, I don't know. Has anyone ever played this game? We used to play it in high school all the time because you need a pen and paper for it. So like during class instead of taking notes, you would build a box, like a grid and you

would make 25 boxes. Like you would drive five lines and then five lines. And, okay, if you guys know what I'm talking about, like, whatever. It's hard to explain. What's easy to explain is that I, and much better than her at this game. She taught me the game, and then I did the game blind,

and I got 24 out of 25. And then... For you to bring that up. And then a little bit later, I got a 25 out of 25, which she's been chasing. She's been chasing that high, and she hasn't gotten it in it.

I wasn't going to bring up that we also played mahjong. And like, I won a million times. By the way, you're supposed to win a mahjong. You literally are professional mahjong player. If there's a world series of mahjong ever put on ESPN, like you're going to put in for the purse, you're going to enter, throw in that 10 grand,

and maybe you're going to win. And by the way, if you don't place, you can't come home because you play an incredible amount of mahjong. I actually play a lot, yes. And I play with, like, a lot of, like, people who play, like, somewhat frequently. But in terms of, like, the really good mahjong players, I'm not that good. Do you think that you don't play with good enough players? Let me, let me dive into this. Right, because you level up, like who you.

When I play golf with great golfers, I play much better. You're like making mahjong not fun. You're like that. When I play golf with bad golfers, I meet them at where they're at. I meet them at where they're at. Because it's like, of course, I'm going to beat you. Yeah. Bozo loser.

Yeah. You, I think you need to start playing with more competitive players, perhaps a little bit older. I think your group is too young. So I know that like the older women, like everyone's mothers who play, play very competitively. They play for money. See? But I like being the best, so I don't want to play with people who are better than me. Got it.

So you'd rather play with a worse crowd and be the best than improve. Correct. Big fish, small pond. Okay. Okay, that's good. Yeah. That's good. How are the good guys?

The good guys are good. The good guys are great. Yeah? Yeah, the show is really just like firing on all the cylinders. It's really funny. It's like, like really funny. We're having a great time doing it. I don't really know what else I can update you on.

Doing a lot of cooking. My God. A lot of cooking. We have a lot of secret projects going on. I was telling the toasters, like in a very vague way on Patreon, that this year we have two secret projects launching. One of them involves you. One of them does not. Yes.

They're big secret projects. Yeah. Really big. BSP. So that's fun. Big secret projects. And you can still get the skinny spirts at Target. Should we dive into the stories?

We should. Yeah, so we watched Love Island. We also watched a movie, which is so crazy for us, that we're going to talk all about in the Fast Five stories that you do need to know. And I just want to remind everyone that today's episode is one of two that we are releasing this week. Tomorrow's episode will be the final episode of the week as we go into the holiday weekend

and Jackie and I are moving out to the Hampton, so we just need a few days to get acclimated. And we will be back a week from today. So tomorrow there is an episode. Jackie will be back, a regular swirly. episode and then we are taking the rest of the week off. I just want to remind you guys so you can prepare yourselves. And don't worry, on Thursday, there is a new episode of the good guys. There is. There's a new episode of good guys in case you're missing your, your swirlitude, okay?

Do you think that you and Josh have swirletude? We do. You think? Oh yeah. How would you define swirletude? Like a little gay. Oh, okay, so I guess like male swirletude. Male swirletudes. But I'm talking about like in general, like non-gendered, very non-binary swirletude. How would you define swirletude? Use it in a sentence. I think that, I think that, I think that, that Galinda has great swirletude. I actually don't agree. We were listening to the Tony from Wicked today, so Glinda's on your mind.

I actually don't think Galinda has swirletude. Do you think Nessa Rose has swirletude? Absolutely not. Well, I would say that the polar opposite of Nessa Rose is Galinda. So how can both of them not have swirletude? Because swirletude is so unique and so special that, yeah, not everyone has it. Would you say that

The Wizard has swirletude? Fuck, no. Would you say that Madam Marble has swirletude? Definitely not. If I were to say anyone in Wicked who has swirletude Galinda. Like, I guess. Obviously.

But that's only because she wears pink and swirlitude. Yes, it's about aesthetics, but it's really about what's on the inside. Understood. And, like, Galinda, like, left her friend alone, like, to die and become the villain, even though she knew the truth. That's not very swirling. I understand. Actually, no.

I would argue that nobody in Wicked at Shiz University has swirlitude. Mm-hmm. Because at the end of the day, swirletude is about being true to oneself. What celebrities do you think have swirletude? I mean, that's a whole other podcast, my friend. That's a whole other podcast. Top two. Okay, you're not letting this go.

I don't know. How about that? Oh, top two celebrities? Probably Jackie and Claudia Oshray. Okay. Right? I guess. They seem pretty swirley to me.

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the performers of Taylor Smith's wedding have been announced. And according to page six, it is Stevie Nix and Tim McGraw. If you are familiar with Taylor's lore, this is extremely possible. Tim McGraw, she loves country. They are OG friends. And kind of the first songs she ever had commercial success with was Tim McGrath. It's one of the first songs she ever wrote. And then Stevie Nix, who Taylor, like, is definitely, I would say Taylor sees herself

as a Stevie Nix of our generation. She's always, like, honoring Stevie Nix and talking about Stevie Nix and writing about Stevie Nix. So maybe like their first dance will be to landslide Even though I think like landslide is a sad song Care to comment? I didn't know if you were continuing Are you asking me a comment on if landslide is a sad song?

I think... I'm not asking you to comment anything I'm asking you to converse in me Because we're hosting a podcast. I think that all of it is just lies. Every single time. Oh, you think? Every single time...

She's getting married on Friday. Is that July 3rd? Why would we know? At Madison Square Garden and now Stevie Nix and Tim McGraw are going to perform. That's what we know. You don't think any of that's true? Why would we know the day that she's getting married?

Because something this big is genuinely impossible to keep under wraps, even though, like, George Kittle and people who have spoken publicly say that they were invited to the wedding. They did confirm. George Kittle did confirm in an interview that it's July 3rd, but they were told just to get dressed and that they have no idea where they're going. He thinks that there's going to be a big plane waiting for them, taking them to, like, a remote island or something.

But why is George Kittle telling people when Taylor Swift's wedding is? Because you can't avoid it. If you're like a celebrity and these are people athletes who like have to do press for their job, if you are a famous person in Taylor Swift's universe and you're being interviewed, the first question out of these reporters' mouths is about the wedding. Great. I'm not Taylor Swift. I don't know.

Ask me another question. It's hard to keep this thing under wraps. I do think Madison Square Garden is legit. So let's say that it is Stevie Nix and Tim McGraw. Inspired choices. I don't want to dance to that. Yeah, Lancel is not like a pussy poppin anthem. It's a great song.

to spill on you. Also not a pussy popper. Neither one of them really comes out with like bops. No, like they need a Bruno Mars. That's what Jackie said. Well, they do. Yeah.

Or a Taylor Swift. Jackie said that Bruno Mars and the hooligans, which is like his band of like dancers and musicians, need to be just the wedding band. Like the way that you would get like a classical 10 piece band. You need Bruno and the hooligans. And she's 100% right about that. You do because then you also get, what is his name?

Anderson Pack. Anderson Pack. To do it at night. He's not a part of the... the hooligans, but he is like a world famous DJ, so yeah. But didn't he also, did he either produce all of his songs, write all of his songs? Him and Bruno Mars are connected. They started a, like, little band, the two of them called Silk Sonic.

They had like one hit, as far as I know. But it definitely put Anderson pack on like the mainstream. So Bruno Mars and the hooligans and then the after party, Silk Sonic. Wow. Are having a wedding. Then? You're marrying obviously like a whore. Sure.

Because in this scenario, I've passed away. Sure. Obviously you lost your marbles. You're marrying like a whore. Sure. And she's evil and she hates her and she's going to steal everything for me. But she, you know, is an heiress and she can afford, let's say she says we can have anyone in the world. This whore says to you, we can have.

This is going to steal everything from me. This is also yours. Yeah, right. This robber slash whore slash heiress says to you, hey, we can have anyone before my wedding at our wedding. My dad's going to pay for it. Look, you're marrying a girl with a dad must be nice. We can have anyone in the world before. multiple performers.

Who is the lineup at your wedding? Oh my. Dead are alive. She can bring back people from the dead as well. And we're having... Or slash robber slash eras. We're having multiple people come in. They could sing one song.

They could leave... It's up to you. You can do one performer. You can do multiple performers. Like, I think that objectively, the best... If you were trying to just pick one performer, I really do think it's Bruno Mars. I agree.

That said... Whenever we talk about Bruno Mars like that on the podcast, people are like, what are you guys talking about? Like, he sucks. Like, he's not... universal like we get comments like that all the time people by the way if he's not universally loved and i thought that he was then this wouldn't even work because i'm going to say like okay we're gonna we're gonna open i think we're gonna open with meatloaf we're gonna bring in meatloaf we're gonna do

paradise by the dashboard we're gonna do i do anything for love and we're gonna warm up the crowd then i feel like me not to tell you how to do your heiress robber you think that's later thief wedding i feel like meatloaf kind of closes fine so then we're gonna open with second-hand serenade perfect oh i'll be there uh my ghost will be there best thing bad tonight that we're not fighting. My ghost will be there in the corner with a lighter in the air. Yeah. Okay. So we're going to start open with second hand serenade. We're going to move into fallout boy. Oh really? We're going to, who do you think goes in between? No, no, I just didn't, I never took you. I know you love emo music and like punk, but I never took you for a fallout boy fan. I want fallout boy.

I want blink 182. Simple plan. I want simple plan. They can sing a song. Third eye blind. Okay. Third eye blind is going to come after secondhand serenade because they're going to sort of loosen us up. Okay. But second, Serenade sings a lot about like self-harm and like suicide. That's why we don't listen.

Okay, you just like rock out. We just rock out. You in the air. This thing that's nice that we're not fighting. Can it be that we have been this way before? I also just want to make it clear

that chas for shalom, God forbid, if anything does happen to be like, I do not want you to move on. Yeah. I want you to have like a miserable life. Okay. Okay.

Understood. And so like if that ever happens, like play this episode back. I'm not even like making a joke I'm being dead serious. Yeah, okay. No, I'm kidding. I actually would want you to like move on with like Marga.

Okay, that's weird. And then somewhere my chemical romance, somewhere the killers. And then at what point do people like eat and make speeches at your wedding? They don't. If I have an unlimited concert budget, I'm putting on a three-hour concert of just my top. You're just not being like selective enough. If I ever marry an heir who also is a thief and a prostitute, jigolo. I'll be very tasteful, very pulled back.

It's going to be, of course, we're going to open with Rascal Flats. That's your kind of wedding. Then Luke Combs. Your kind of wedding. And then, of course, we're going to round it out with Taylor Swift. It sounds like an amazing wedding. I might throw Luke Combs into my mix. You would?

Would you say you're like a huge, actually, I also want to throw more small in mind. I really like Luke Combs. I do. That's beautiful. I do. I think my favorite song, though, is an old song. Of his? I love Hurricane.

Yeah, it's like his most popular song ever. It is? Way to have a, way to have like, not a nuanced tape. It is? I'm not a real fan. Yeah. Really? He has a couple of songs

that were transcended country. Everyone knows Hurricane. Everyone knows one number away. Everyone knows beautiful crazy. Those three. I'm not a huge beautiful crazy guy. Me neither. I like more like,

because I'm obviously very... Yeah, your beer never broke my heart. You're all that crap. I like that too, but like the ones that people don't know. This one's for you... What fuck is that? Only true fans now, so way to expose yourself. What else?

By the way, like, we have a lot of stories. Like, you could still talking. No, no. No, no. No, I'm just trying to think if there's anybody that I miss. just in case, like, people and their PR are listening, and they want to, like, invite me to, like, some stuff. People think that Taylor, you know, she went,

we were at the Nick game that she was at, fun fact about us. And she wore that shirt that said Stevie Nix. Yes. People think that was, like, an Easter egg. I just don't think she's, like, Easter egging her wedding. But that's the problem when you become the queen of Easter eggs, like, you can't just wear a T-shirt.

People are like, well, it means that Stevie Nix. Like, okay, also she maybe just wore the T-shirt that her friend made. By the way, it means that it's, you went to a Nick game, so it's NICs. Yeah, right. That is it. And also one of the other friends was wearing a shirt that said, Nickelback.

Do you think that means Nickelback is performing a Taylor's wedding? But you would obviously have them perform at your heiress robber wedding. Of course I'd have them. I can't believe I forgot. Look at this photograph. Hinder. And Hinder. Lips of an angel.

Oh my God. And Creed. Yeah. Your wedding is going to be. Wow. So fun. 12 hours long. So fun.

This shouldn't be a wedding because you need to be there too. What is this? Oh, that's sweet. A celebration of life? A late. life, Kinseniera? We could renew our vows. Okay.

You know, you know that's a curse. People who renew their vows almost always end up divorced. And I don't want to do that. But I just feel like we would beat the odds. I will beat the odds. Can't you just like have a concert for no reason and invite your friends? Like a birthday party. Sure.

But who's paying for it? It has to be a wedding because like the person you're marrying. What we're doing, what we're talking about right now is my 50th birthday party. Okay. If I somehow amass. Billions. Which I kind of need you to do. Let's talk about the fact that you were so like,

cardboard this morning? Yes. I'm cardboard about one thing, and by the way, you're wrong for this. And I'm not cardboard about one thing. And you're wrong for this. It's Uber. There is no reason in the world to take an Uber black

or an Uber SUV when you are going less than a mile. Wrong. It's not about the distance. Ben is always calling the cheapest possible Uber and like this actual caravan being held together by duct tape. How wonderful was it? How wonderful was it? This morning, we got lucky.

We had a wonderful minors. minivan with a lovely driver who drove quick, his car was clean. A minivan. And cold. I just want to say, a minivan is perfect. The minivans in New York City are always old taxi cabs converted. They were like painted them black to be. And they're just always like seriously breaking down, like losing tires, nails falling out.

Sure. I am, yes, I am not cardboard. I'm actually like a diva brat about Uber's. I always take an Uber black. If I don't, first of all, I find that like my days just started off in a poor way. I'm so athletic these days. I walk a lot. I very rarely Uber.

So like when I do, it's a black. Yeah, I need air conditioning. I need a car that's like big enough. Air conditioning exists in a Sienna. No, like some of these like cars. So why don't you go Uber XL? Yeah, I do Uber XL. Okay.

Yeah. I'm just saying Uber XL. Uber XL is half the price of the SUV. I don't do SUV. I do black. That's, there's a difference. By the way, Uber Black scam. I love a Lincoln Navigator, a Nautilus.

Sometimes they send you an Accura MDX. Why don't I pay? that for that. I agree. I agree. But also to say like fun fact about me, I get a lot of shit for being cardboard. Yeah, I'm actually quite braddy about ubers. Yeah, that's right. I cuss a little. You are braddy about ubers. Yeah. And I'm not cardboard about anything, but I guess ubers. Sometimes, sometimes I'm so fucking desperate to get home. Like, I, sometimes I go, which has the shortest weight time. Of course. Because when I'm done, I'm done. Of course. And sometimes, you know, I love a yellow cab. Of course. I actually take more yellow cabs than I do ubers. They're so much

cheaper. But it's strange because yellow cabs very rarely have good air conditioning. Because they give you events about this big. There's like a day usually around like end of April, early May where you have to stop taking yellow cabs because they don't have air conditioning. Correct. You have to open the window. Yeah. Okay. Next story about your boyfriend, Jalen Brunson. Oh, first of all, we can talk about this together, but you know Jalen Brunson's writing a children's book. I do. I saw. I pre-ed us a copy. I saw. Oh, nice. Yeah. You're not a real fan because you didn't pre-order it? No, but I am going to his charity golf tournament this summer. You are? Are you golf with Jalen? Probably not. I'm probably I'm probably just like paying for a foursome and then like we'll like wave or something. You met Jalen? I did I did. I did when last

we do have a mutual friend his wife and you shook his hand if I remember and she was so nice enough to invite me down to the court and say hey Jalen come meet my friend Ben that's and I and I shook his hand Fess Ed Queen doing you know giving back to the community yeah yeah with the uh unfortunate yeah she's great yeah and he's just seemed tall like he seemed to he seemed tall. Like in the real world he seems tall, but in, I guess, basketball world, he's not? No, he's like a little bit taller than me,

but he's tall. Like, I can't explain it. Like, tall isn't just height. No, actually, I think it's exclusively high. Tall is also build, strong guy. What a hand. You know, like you're shaking. You ever go to the NBA store back in the day

and you could put your hands in the palms of NBA players? Okay, first of all, no, I've never been to the NBA story and you knew that. And second of all, no, I didn't know, that they had a sort of glory hole. Like, glory hole. You could touch hands. You can touch, you can touch.

No, you can, not real hands. I'm just saying the NBA store. It's like a wax hand. I know the NBA store closed down and it's been like, it's been ruining the lives of young Jewish boys ever since. It was elite. It was literally walk in. But in today's day and age, they could never have an exhibit like that.

It would turn into like, you know. No, by the way, they could have an exhibit like that except you couldn't because we're, we're too concerned with germs. Yeah, right. During COVID, that would have been shut down and never opened back up. And that might be why. think it was shut down during COVID and never opened back up. Oh, really? The NBA store. Yeah, I don't think that that was why. I think that they were just paying like a million dollars a month in rent.

This is one of the biggest stores ever. Well, so, I mean, we get to the story. Nick star Jalen Brunson showed up and her broadway. So I don't know if you know Mariska Hargatee's on Broadway. Wow, I didn't. She's doing a show called Every Brilliant Thing. I recently started following her on Instagram and so I know everything about this play. I think it's a one-woman show. And very, very kind, very generous. Jailen Brunson showed up, which is just huge. It's just like... And here's a picture. Look, your best friend. Let me say. Allie Brunson.

My best friend Peter Herman, guest friend of the toast, with Mariska and Jalen. And who you love? Jaylin. Jalen. Jalen. I'm cracking up. I'm glad to. I literally love Peter Herman.

You know this guy, right? Of course I do. What do you know him from? I don't know, but he's really funny. Funny? Yeah. Peter Herman's really funny. I have no doubt that he is like a funny guy.

I actually know him in front of the toast. But I wouldn't say his leading thing is that he's funny. I know him from Conno. Comedies. I don't remember what comedy. I don't know. Let's see. Let me look. He's from Law & Order. He's from Younger. He was, of course, married to Bridget in Blue Bloods. He's always does like serious TV. I don't know him as a comedy actor. Let's see. Peter Herman. I feel like maybe you're confusing him with someone. No, I know, no, no. I know this guy and he's been in comedies. I know this guy and he's been in comedies. Let's see. I know him from. Oh, him and Josh were in a movie together. 13, the musical. Oh, 13 the musical? Mm-hmm. You know that I was in 13 the musical.

In your, uh... Do you not know this part about me? I don't remember. Like, you don't even fucking listen when I talk because this is one of the most important things that ever happened to me. Okay, continue. And I talked about it.

I read it in my book. Did you read my book? Yes. You said you did, but you don't remember 13 the musical? By the way, I don't remember what I ate for breakfast. I might not have talked about it in my book. See?

By the way, that was in... Oh, no, I did. I did. I did. I did. I did. You saw it. I did.

I did. gifted musically throughout my childhood. Obviously. But I never got involved in musical theater. I never joined the choir because I was like afraid, you know, I watched a lot of mean girls growing up. And I thought that like if you were... 30 rock. 30 rock.

Yeah, but he plays like a serious guy. But yeah, he's in 30 rock. 30 rock. Yeah, okay, fine. You got me there. He's in 30 rock. Fine. Literally the only show we watch.

Let me just go back to 13 the musical because that's so... And I need to talk to Josh about this. Who did Josh play? I played Cassie. So, here, let me tell you. I'm pretty sure that Josh was the rabbi. Is there a rabbi? I only remember my part.

Wait, are we talking about the same thing? 13th musical. I don't know if this is what Josh was said. Can I just like please finish my villain origin story? Sure. So I never performed in high school even though like I was better than half the kids in like all the programs because I just didn't want to be like labeled a theater kid. And then at my senior year I really had the itch.

And every at my school every year the season. Yeah. 13 the musical. Josh Peck plays rabbi Shapiro. I'm cracking up. You don't even know that there's a rabbi. In 13 The Musical? Well, if you've listened to my story,

you'll know why I, like, knew nothing about the play. I'm listening to come. So by my senior year, I was like, you know what? I really want to, I want to get involved in the theater department. Sure. And so every year at my high school, the seniors put on a play. It's called the senior play. Sure.

Brilliant name. And it's like not as serious. Like everyone gets involved in it's really fun. So I thought it was like a good way for me to get involved without being like a nerdy drama kid, right? Sure. And so I auditioned, of course, I sang Doreen on my parade, Queen Corgi's favorite song. And the thing about the senior play was that the...

Don't read in 13, the musical. I auditioned. You can audition with any song. Are you okay? And the thing about 13, the musical, no, excuse me. The thing about the senior play is that it's not put on by the drama department. It's put on by the seniors who are in the drama department. Yikes.

So they had like a chip on their shoulder about me, like not, you know, being a theater kid. And by the way, that was fucked up of you. You went in and railroaded? I didn't railroad. Like they just, this was their whole life and you were just like, I'm talented. I'm going to fuck you up. I auditioned. You fucked up.

I can't audition. Everyone's supposed to audition. But, you know, there was favoritism. There was a lot of politics. And so they, they casted their friends. And they were, it wasn't, I'm all I'm saying, it wasn't a meritocracy. You know, there was a lot of politics involved.

So I got some like, loser ass part. Her name was Cassie and she was like literally irrelevant, except she had one song. And let me tell you, I practice this heart. The song's so fucking hard and halfway through rehearsals. They say, you know, for time we're cutting some stuff and they cut my song. Mm-hmm.

When I tell you, I flew into that gymnasium. And I said, absolutely not. And I put up a whole fight. and I got my song back. And, you know, the corruption continues because at the actual performance day, when I started to sing, my microphone was off. And about like one verse in,

they pop my microphone back on. Let's just. I have it on video. I'll find it for you guys. I feel like I talk about it all the time. It's definitely been posted on the toes before. And when I returned to my high school, like several years after the performance,

some of the faculty members, like they were still talking about it. I'm being dead serious. Like it was sort of the performance heard around the world. I never thought that I could run and hide and when I'm better than inside. But now, now, now I see a brand new you.

And this was like the part that I got like really sassy at. And I can't stop myself from loving every little bit of thing you do. Yeah. Pretty good. Okay. Two things. One, you've been blaming me for probably the last 14 years for shutting microphones. Clearly somebody else in your life is shutting microphones.

Yeah, no, it's kind of the thing that's funny. Maybe there's like a little leprechaun. Yeah, it's been plaguing me. Maybe there's like a little epicon. You don't know them. You come into our studio, you unplug things. You don't plug them back in. It's not true.

It's not true. This is not true. Yeah. What else is? Then. So Josh was also, and Peter Herman. Who was Peter Herman in 13 the musical? Cassie.

Fun fact, Argana was also in 13 The Musical on Broadway, of course. By the way. You see? Yeah. It's for all great. Honestly, 13 The Musical is like, if you were involved in some sort of production of 13 the musical, of 13 the musical as a child, you are doing great things right now.

Big show. Yeah. Big time show. Did Josh do it? Is there a movie? I wish I remembered what show at YU. I don't think I ever told this story. Oh my God.

When you were in college, you did a play? Yeah, I was in the prop department. Okay, that's not like being in a play. I believe I picked wardrobes. I was in the play. Okay, being in the play and picking wardrobes are two different things. By the way, I just want you to know, the people in the wardrobe department are going to come for you. Come from me.

You're not in the play. It's very important to the show to have a wardrobe. I didn't say that it wasn't. I just said you're not a performer. Like you're not a way. I thought it was like a little bit, it was a little bit too like, you know. You weren't loving it?

I just like couldn't be in the wardrobe department. I think I was just like, it was like credit for a class. I thought it was like an easy class. And it was more work than you entered. It was late at night. It just like it was too much. Okay.

I didn't need to be in the yeshiva wardrobe department of the yeshiva play. I don't know. I feel like you miss out. Joseph and the Technicolor Dream Club. Was that the play? No, but it probably was. He has something like, Prince of Egypt.

Yeah, sure. No, if it was Prince of Egypt, I would have been in it. I am so excited about our next story because it's merely a vessel, you know? Sure. So Jennifer Lopez has made a surprise appearance at Prime Videos' Obsessed Fest to introduce the off-campus panel. So off-campus, which is the viral show that everyone's obsessed with myself included, had an event. And J-Lo was, like, the surprise guest who introduced the panel. There is like a J-Lo element to the show if you watched it, you know.

Do I know off-campus? No. I watched it when you were out like your basketball intramurally because I was, like, genuinely embarrassed if you watch. in front of you because it's like young adult porn. Got it. Unlike, unlike the other young adult porn that we watch. Correct. Okay.

Love Island, by the way. This one's particularly embarrassing. Don't send me to prison. So we're gonna talk. Jennifer Lopez. Thank you. Jennifer Lopez is like definitely on the up. She had a rough year last year like QSquerewise.

Everything she did people hated her album flop. She put out this documentary that she funded herself that was like really bad. She had the Ben Affleck thing. But I'm telling you, a couple of things are happening and J-Lo is so back. first thing is her movie. Last month, and I said I wanted to watch it, and I just totally forgot about it. It was like a rom-com on Netflix with Brett Goldstein from Ted Lassow. He actually wrote the movie. There were a lot of rumors about them dating. So the movie was hyped up pretty well. What was it called again? Office Romance. Such a good movie. We watched it over the

weekend. Like, I am here to tell you guys that like, it was probably one of the best movies I've seen in the better part of a decade. Like, it was fucking hysterical. It was an old school rom-com. It was an old-school rom-coms are so back, but it had like this new age element of like being kind of silly. There were a couple of scenes that were like very graphic, either sexually or just like, gory that I didn't feel were necessary.

And most of the time that makes me hate a movie, but the movie was so good otherwise. Like, even the birth scene, everyone's talking about, like, there's a woman in the office who's pregnant and she gives birth in the office and it's like, she can't make it to the hospital. And they like show, it's obviously fake.

They show like a vagina and a baby's head coming out. And normally, like, I would turn the TV off. Like, I just think that's so unnecessary. When I tell you, that woman deserves an Oscar, she was so funny. She was great. The scene was funny. Yeah.

They really didn't need it. But, like, it didn't bother me. I loved the movie so much. I feel like, first of all, they're totally fucking. They had so much sexual chemistry. Yeah. And I feel like it was so great for J-Lo. Like, she was just magnetic.

She was great. She was great. You liked it just as much as I did. By the way, it was a great movie. But I was watching two movies. I was watching the movie and I was watching you watch the movie. Yeah, I was seriously like giddy. You were.

You couldn't believe that you were watching a movie that you liked so much. Because you know what? I famously don't like movies. They're too long. Yeah. This movie was not long enough. It was a great movie. And it had that like hallmark element where like all the stages are fake.

It was hallmarky. Yeah. But it was incredible. Because Brett Goldstein's incredible. And like the premise of being a CEO of an airline. Like it was just so dumb. Great writing. Normally.

Yeah. Like that hallmark like element that makes a movie feel fake. This is just incredible. Honestly, Brett Goldstein needs to go and write for Hallmark. Well, the crazy thing is that Brett Goldstein wrote Ted Lassow and he's like probably one of the most in demand writers in Hollywood. And so like after Ted Lassow. Like, what is he going to do, you know? I think he writes, I think he's a writer on shrinking that show with Harrison Ford that we like.

But, like, this is what he wanted to do. We need him to write more rom-coms. He cast himself at the very end when he was like, I want to let you fall out of the sky. Oh, and the movie was also like a love letter to New Jersey. Like, it was so good. I'm sorry, like, you guys need to watch it. It looks so silly. And I'm so glad I gave it the time of day.

Who said that it was bad? Why did we almost not watch it? Because like. But then I don't trust anyone. You shouldn't. But who said that it was bad? Like I made a TikTok about how I thought it was the best movie I've ever seen in the comments. What are you talking about?

It was terrible. It's that crazy. People don't know quality. No, people are assholes. That's what it is. It was so good. They probably went into it thinking that it was going to be bad and then they just like didn't let themselves enjoy it.

And I'm so here for a J-Lo Renaissance. I feel like she came off so likable in the movie because she's not like that good of an actress. So I feel like the character she was playing is a little similar to the person that she is like off camera. And I'm telling you, I think Jail is misunderstood. Like she's had a really hard year. And I'm so.

So here for her comeback. Yeah. I haven't liked J-Lo since Made from Manhattan. My favorite movie. That's a Sopper Family movie. Okay, that's not the name of the movie. What is it? Made of Manhattan?

Made in Manhattan. Yes. Same fucking thing. Like, it's literally a 30-year-old movie. I'm sorry that I missed one letter. I kind of want to see Made from Manhattan. By the way, me too. That's literally your origin story.

I love that movie. Really? I feel like of all of hers, that's not my favorite. I like The Wedding Planner. The Wedding Planner is great as well. I like. But by the way, all of these movies that we're talking about are 20 years old. I know, she hasn't.

And then she hasn't made a movie that I've liked in about 20 years. No, so she did hustlers in recent history and it was like very good, very critically. Different. Different. Different. But yes. In the last 10 years, like all of the movies that she does are fake like hallmark level. And so I thought that this was going to be the same thing.

She was great. She was great. He was great. He was great. He was great. Buster Bluth, Tony Hale. He was great. He was head of the HR department.

He was. Ugly Betty's dad is the chairman of the board. Okay. It was really, it was guys. What else is Ugly Betty's dad in? Was he, are you sure? He wasn't in Breaking Bad? No, but I know why you think that.

Are you sure? Positive. The villain. No, not the villain. I think he was in Breaking Bad. Okay, let's see. What's his name? Ugly Betty's Dad.

Ugly Betty's Dad. It's so funny. No matter who is the co-host, this show always ends up us looking at people's IMDBs. Ugly Betty's dad is Ignacio Suarez. Yes, of course, Ignacio Suarez. In case you didn't know. I did know that. And Ignacio Suarez, what a handsome man.

It's not in Breaking Bad. Suarez breaking bad. Really? No. Cool. All right, you're one for two. Peter Herman. Dirty Rock.

Is Ignatian? No. So what do I know him from? Whatever. I'll look at that. I'll look at that on my head. on time. I never watched Ugly Betty. We watched it together. No, I watched like one episode of that Ugly Betty, and I didn't need it. You didn't like it? I didn't need it. It's one of the greatest

shows of our time. They can't all be... Office Romance. No, they can't all be one of the greatest shows of all of our time. What's the best show you've ever watched? 30 Rock. It's a great answer. 30 Rock is so funny. Every single episode. There's a hall of fame of like modern TV shows. I think Mad Men is in there. I think Breaking Bad is in there. 30 Rock is definitely representing the comedy genre in there. So good. Yeah. Like I laugh just as much.

I might even laugh more. Game of Thrones is in there. Of course. I might even laugh more. Downton Abbey is in there. At 30 Rock. And I do at Seinfeld and Kerb. They're very different shows.

Yeah. But 30 Rock is constant laughter. I would say that Kerb and Seinfeld is a little bit smarter comedy. It takes a little bit longer to get there. Wow, are they good. That's really interesting stuff.

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box. Ollie, be the obsession. The reality TV couple have been spotted vacationing in Wisconsin. If you know, you know, West Wilson. Who vacations in Wisconsin? West Wilson and Amanda Betula, he is from the Midwest. They were spotted. Wait, they're still hanging out? Yeah. They're like a full-blown couple. Oh, my. So they have been jet-setting. They went to Rome. They were all over Italy. And then Dumas shared a sighting of the controversial couple. It was sent in my wonderful for followers. It shows the two visiting

with family in Lake Geneva. There's no word on when the photo was taken, but it was sometime very recently. They were spotted in the wild in Wisconsin. And then also I saw Dumois posted, they were at a bar and somebody overheard him or her, like them exchanging, I love you's. You are now personally involved in the story

because you went to dinner with Jesse Solomon. Did he say anything about it? No. No, but Jess is a very nice guy. You're a nice guy. No. No. You said, did he say anything about it?

No. By the way, I just, my voice goes up and down randomly. He didn't say anything about it. Okay. He's a very nice guy. Yeah, how did you guys get along? Did he sing for you? He didn't sing for me.

He's a new song that's really good. Wildflower love. I want that shock me like a match. You can't hold it back. Wildflower. Fire. Fire. Fire.

Fire. The thing is, I haven't heard any of the rest of the song, though. I need to. I need to. That chorus is definitely good. Yeah. You know, this West Amanda thing. You know how I feel, how I feel about reality TV.

It's the devil. Oh, wow. Is that what you and Jesse said at dinner when you were talking about West? No, Jesse seems to have a good head on his shoulders. So this is what I will say. He went into reality TV intentionally. And there are some people that do that. It seems like Bethany maybe did that.

Like some people, they go in and they look at it as this amazing platform where they can do more things. And I think some of them just go in there looking to fuck shit up and they end up fucking up their life. Mm-hmm. And... Would you ever? No.

If you could get tapped for Summer House, you're like, Loki involved, you're one of Kyle's ops, your best friend of Jesse. Like, Jesse could bring his fed bed to the house. No. You're being married,

like, sort of does, like, ruin the vibes. So, like, I can take a back seat happily. I just think that Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Season 1. They were all married. Now,

none of them are. In order to be a housewife, you have a better luck getting cast if you're not married. Except, it depends on the first. franchise actually. Real Houseways of Rhode Island, everyone's married. I just feel like they all end in despair.

Yeah, no, it's all funning games until you're in jail. And then once you're done, they ring you out like a ragcloth. Okay, ragcloth. They ring you out. They ring you out. You ever see Ramona Singer? My queen, yeah, she's like getting ready for her next TV. You ever see Sonia Morgan? Yeah, they're all going to be on Golden Life.

Golden Life? New show. Reamping the old Housewives of New York. Oh, is this the, oh, I understand. I remember. This is the Jill's Aaron one? Yeah. Rest and peace. Ring you out.

Bring you out. Like it off. All right, let's take into our fifth and final story, which is Love Island News and Love Island recap. Ben is fully caught up. We've been watching, I sometimes watch an episode without it, but for the most part, he knows what's going on. I'm very, very caught up. Maybe I've missed one episode, and let me tell you, before you get into it. Yeah.

Give us your overall thoughts before I tell you. The producers of this show need a raise. Oh, wow. The producers of the show. I think they started working like a week ago. I think they took the first two weeks off. The producers of this show, Nita Reyes, the way that they have taken what was such a boring group of people

and turned it into really great TV. Yeah, they've been heavy-handed in their production over the last week. And they did a great job. It helped a lot. Things are finally interesting. We broke up some OG couples, like it's good. I love Trinity and Bryce. Of course.

They're my piece. They're your winners. I can't stand, Kenzie. Oh, wow. Okay. She's so annoying and nobody is talking about the fact that she's upset at Corwin. Corbin. Corbin.

I prefer Corwin. She's upset at Corbin for doing exactly what she does. All that she does. She's actually upset with Corbin for the thing that he said. I don't think she's mad that he's done. I know because that's like her like favorite thing to hold on to. Like, no, you are the one who goes after every new bombshell. You are the one who immediately jumps to another person.

Yeah. And you are so obsessed with staying on this show. that you are telling gal that oh maybe I could like you just in case your friend so just like let Jen Jen who can't get arrested let Jen have one guy no no she doesn't care because just in case her relationship with Dylan falls through

totally she needs to stay on this show because she's clearly obsessed with fame she's clearly obsessed with being like an influencer like she has motivations beyond this show it's clear as day so there are two episodes Friday night and Sunday night that aired that we haven't recapped yet. Friday night was the big recoupling. Trinity and Bryce had this beautiful reunion. It was so cute. They're totally winning. Keda and Zach both chose each other, but Kada doesn't know that Zach chose her because his girl got kicked

out of the villa. He would have done it anyways. I don't like, I don't like this narrative. He didn't like that girl. I agree, but she does need to know that first of all. And second of all, I do think that Zach has like a lot of red flags that Kate is not seeing. He's like extremely controlling when he didn't make her breakfast before the recoupling last time. Like that was really crazy. They like left on bad terms. So, I do think that they're a good couple, but he is problematic. Like, for sure. He definitely feels emotional.

Mm-hmm. He feels, I think he feels emotional, but I think that he's, I think they're a nice couple. And I like Keda. She seems nice. I like her too. She's cool. Kenzie and Corbin both chose different people. Corbans with Parmita and Kenzie with Dylan.

The Persian cat. The Persian cat. And I don't really care about them as a couple. I love them. Parmita. Parmita and Corbyta. I love them. They see the weirdest shit to me.

I can't wait to get out of here so I can pick you up in my car. I'm so hot and you're so hot. We should, like, we're a perfect match because we're both so hot. Like, look at our bodies. And when we get out of here, I'm going to pick you up in my car. Corbyn is, like, he was like, he's, like, he's, like, hell of cringy. Though, like, when he was like, I feel like the girls in Casa are, like, college girls. And then, like, the girls are-cobin's just dumb.

Like, that's, that's it. But he's, like, he's funny. He's nice. He talks weird. I'm sorry. I don't agree that he's funny or nice. It's like, I think there's something. I think it's maybe, I think it's maybe just like his existence.

He's just very monotone. And so, like, he looks like, like, unoffensive, but I'm telling you there's something like deep, like dark within him. I think he's just like. And Kenzie, too. Like, I think he's just like a player. Like, don't eat the game. Kenzie is a player. Kenzie is a player.

Kenzie sinister. There's, there's something weird about her. I'm not in. So then the two couples that I think everyone was like waiting most for were Melanie and sincere and Casey and I. Okay. So I think that the producers were like very meticulous in watching. in letting Anaya go last. Like, yes, she was one of the most anticipated,

but I think she sat there and saw Bryce choose Trinity. Correct. Zach choose Kada. Correct. Sincere choose Melly that she was like, oh, they obviously all went to Casa more and talked about how much they missed us. Correct.

So she was thinking about maybe choosing Carl. She was like, no, you know what? Correct. I think she felt emboldened. Correct. To choose him. And it went down exactly how we thought it would. Now, the reaction from the fans

has been like so much hate to Casey. And I just want to say I'm not seeing enough hate for sincere. Sincere and Casey did. did the exact same thing at Casa Amour. But at least Casey had the decency to come back and be honest and come back with the girl. Sincere was in a full-blown relationship for three days and came back and is lying.

I think Melon, everyone's like Anaya looks so stupid. I think Melanie looks more stupid. Can we go one by one? Sure. Let's talk with Melanie and sincere. You want to start there, not Casey? Yeah. Okay.

Well, if you have someone to say, you can say. What is the hate online for Casey? Just the way that he handled this breakup was terrible and their team Naya? I think that they think he was disrespectful to. to Anaya. I don't know exactly what their issue is, but I guess it wasn't treating Anaya like the queen that she is. Got it. Anaya trapped him from episode one. Okay. Anaya intentionally mentioned that her father was an NBA player. And he's been really stupid. And he's been, and he's been on it the whole time. He was never attracted her. He never, he never liked her.

He liked the fact that her dad was an NBA player. That's it. That was it. And so this entire time, she's like, I've given you everything. It's like, no. He actually, never liked you, you tried to trap him, and it didn't work. And so I think another criticism that people have of Casey is that, like, he keeps, he was saying the whole time that he wanted to explore, but he didn't explore in the villa because he was like afraid that Anaya would be upset. No, that's not even, that's not even why. He said that.

And then the second he needs a villa, he has the chance to explore, and everyone's mad at him for that. But it's like, actually, I feel like it's more respectful to not explore in front of her. He also didn't explore in the villa because if you remember, the first week or two weeks of the show, they were all 100% coupled. There was nowhere to explore. He didn't explore soul. And he wanted to explore.

soul. He said that he wanted to explore soul. I think he would have explored soul. I don't think he liked soul. No, he's obviously not like an amazing guy, and he's not mature. But I don't think he's like this big bad villain that everyone's making. I don't think that he's a big bad villain. And I think, like, Anaya, like, I want a root for her. Honestly, I didn't even think that people should bring back Carl. She had this perfect guy in front of her who said all the right things, liked her so much.

And she turned him down. Like, she had the choice and she made the wrong choice. Yeah. So I'm not understanding all that. But we got Carl back. I'm not understanding all that. the KC hate, I'm really, like, I'm searching desperately for the sincere hate. He is the clear villain to me.

Yeah, and what's weird is... When he said, I kissed Amora a few times. Yeah. That was the biggest, like literally the biggest lie ever told. Yeah, and I don't know why Melanie can't see. She must, she must... Because these guys from Casa Amora came and they told her, they're like, we've seen it. Melanie must, though, like, be attracted to a bad guy.

Like, she must secretly deep down, like... the fact that he's like kind of cheating on her like the fact that he's like yeah like like she likes a douche because this is like a little self-destructive yeah since i don't remember what episode it was but it was very very early in this season it came out that sincere is a cheater like right like he cheated outside of the villa so if you're going to cheat in real life of course you're going to mess around when you're open and not in committed relationships here yeah like he doesn't he doesn't think he doesn't think anything's wrong with what he's doing and by the way one thing that is important to know.

I don't, the lying is the problem. But you're in open relationships. You're not closed off. He's allowed. He's allowed. Of course, but it's the lying. No, I know, but she's. And you should still, yes, you can explore,

but you should still be respectful to the person you've been with it. She knows. But she knows. Yeah, of course. So that's the thing. Like all the, I feel like I get hate a lot because I'm always blaming the women. I want to say that like, it goes to that saying like all these guys are bad guys. But it is very hard.

With the exception of. Rice. Rice. I don't think Zach's a bad guy. I think he has red flags, but I don't think he's a bad guy. Rice. Zach. My boy, Carl.

Having said all that, it needs to be said. Like, it is hard to watch all these women. Dylan seems like a nice guy. Be so dumb. Sorry. They're being dumb. Anaya, that was a dumb decision. Smelani, how many times do people have to tell you?

Like, it is bad. And it's like, now all the girls from Casa Mora are going to come back. Amora. And Titi did tell her. They're going to tell. And it's like how many times you need to know, like, at some point, like, I can't root for you anymore. Titi. Queen.

Seems like a great woman. I know. And I'm glad her and I has squashed the beef. So the story that I wanted to talk about is, I don't know if you know this, but like fans are demanding a response. They want to see the unseen footage because at the recoupling ceremony, remember Trinity's going at it with Titi. I'm Titi, little girl. Like there was all this drama. People noticed in the background that Melanie and Kenzie were not there.

They were like escorted out. People think that the fight got really bad, they caught parts out, and then Melanie and Kenzie were gone. Isn't that weird? The whole recoupling, during that fight with T.T. Casey, when Casey and Anaya didn't recouple.

Weird. So, fans are demanding to see unseen footage as many fans speculate two Islanders were kicked out of the fire pit scene. So, yeah, there is this screenshot where Melanie and Kenzie are not there, and fans of Love Island are pressing peacock for more unseen footage

after online viewers began speculating that Kenzie and Melanie were removed from a tense fire pit moment during the Casa Amor recoupling. And I remember thinking, like, why is Trinity having to defend Anaya all by herself. Like, where are the other girls? They're calling them the core four, you know, Melanie, Kada, Anaya, and Trinity.

They were not there. So the theory spread across TikTok and Reddit after viewers noticed that the two Islanders appear to be missing from the couch during that part of the scene. A viral TikTok claimed they had to remove Melanie from the pit, LMAO, was wondering why they didn't show her reaction, and Kenzie, they were probably about to jump that girl. The clip fueled debate among fans, with many calling for producers to release the full version of the confrontation. This comes as Love Island viewers say they should win an Emmy for Dramatic Casa Amor Recoupling. Yeah, they weren't there. I wonder why. People have no idea.

There's no, like, people are just guessing, but they were confirmed not there. People think that they must have went crazy and, like, the fight got even worse. This is too deep cut for me. Yeah, this is like behind this. But that reminded me, I liked that Anaya and T.T.,

like after the drama of the recoupling was over the next morning, they sat down. It was also great PR for Anaya. Yeah, she looked really mature. I agree. It swung her back around for me. I agree. Because I was literally, like, shaking my TV.

I was like, Anaya, he doesn't like you. Why are you picking him? He doesn't like you. He doesn't like you. And you have a guy here that does like you. So at a minimum, if you want to be on the show, pick Carl because he likes you. And then you can explore KC. I want to say, I do respect her not picking Carl just to stay on the show because that is confirmed.

Carl likes me. He's here for me. I could stay on the show, maybe win. I do respect the fact that she followed her heart. Now, her heart led her astray and really did make her look stupid. But I respect the fact that she didn't just take the safe way out. Sure. Right?

A lot of people would have done that. I don't know. You're on a show. Just to say out of show. A lot of people would have done that. You're on a show. And then last night's episode was so long for literally no reason. There was no reason that the challenge had to be that long.

I was just waiting for someone to pop out of a cake. And I love that they brought back Amora. Yeah, it's nice that they brought back Carl. But like, if I'm Carl, I don't want to be with Anaya, she didn't choose me. You know who I love that they brought back? Meg the Stalium. Yeah, we loved her last season. She was funny.

She's just great. And she really does. You can tell, like, like the show and watch. She's great. She's funny. Yeah. Oh, Kenzie said something crazy. What?

Fat ass. or something. I was like, excuse me? That was crazy. It was a little weird. I think that she's just always drunk. I'm realizing it now. I think that they limit the amount of liquor you can drink.

But if you look back, I have, I'm starting to realize, do I have a photographic memory? I'm not sure, but I can see pictures. You don't. I see the scene. Okay. She's getting very, very, very upset. When? At Corbin during the pie in the face challenge.

Challenge. And she gets really, really red. I think the red is tequila. So I think we- I never see people talking about alcohol. They like never drink except when the night begins they all, when they convene it, they all come down in their outfits.

They convene in that table and everyone has a cup with their name on it and it's like a stemless wine glass with a little bit of red wine in it. I don't think that they drink outside of that. Oh, so then I'm wrong. There's not unlimited wine. So then she's just hot. I mean it is really warm.

She's like fair skin. Sure. The challenge was too long. It was silly and like dumb at some points. But there were a couple of moments during the pie cream in the face thing that were like genuinely awkward. When Sincere randomly chose to pie gen. And he was like, well, she's new here.

She's like, I've been here for two weeks. It was so awkward. He's like, well, we're a family. And like he was just trying to make her feel left out. It was like so randomly unnecessarily mean. I'm sorry, you will not convince me that he's the worst, that he's not the worst guy in the house. Everyone's worried about Casey, this Corbyn that.

We are not talking about sincere enough. Agreed. That was so mean for me. no reason. Also, Casey is like he was being really like a pussy when everyone kept creaming him and he turned his face and like wouldn't take it when everyone was taking it. Yeah. I'm sorry, I'm telling you that's why I like Corbin. That he took it. Well, I think he played the challenge very well. He except he apologized and he accepted the fact that all more is he supposed to do. All the girls were mad at him. He accepted the cream of the face. Anything we can now move on from it. Yeah, what more are we supposed to do?

No, Casey did not eat humble pie and he still has not talked to an eye. Yeah, Casey's not great. Sincere is definitely the worst. Yeah. He's bad. He's bad. He is long. lying. KC., the thing is, KC. is a bad guy, and he's being up front about it. Sincere is hiding all of these things. I don't know, actually. Sincere just keeps getting chances that maybe he shouldn't get, but he... Yeah, and that's Melanie's fault, by the way. He is pretty upfront.

He's like, yeah, I did that. No, he is not up front at all. Literally, he came back and said, I explored a connection. We kissed a few times. He was in a full-bone relationship, cuddling every single night, making out all day every day. But don't you know that? If you're not letting

No Why? Because she thinks that he acted The way that she acted Explored a connection No, no he She wants to think I know

That this guy would act like that That's what I mean when I say like accountability There's not enough accountability Being put on the girls for being dumb Sorry. I agree Sorry But he's also a bad guy

Absolutely And she should She should know that by now She By the way She can't see what we see No she can Oh you think

Yeah It's very very clear That she seeks out toxic men Because she had that really nice guy She said it was the best state of her life. Nobody's ever thrown her a picnic or whatever. And then she picked the asshole. Totally. I told you I watch. You know, Ben, and I told you like pay attention last night because I told you I watched. I told you I watched. Well, that is our show. Ben, it's been just an absolute

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