The Toast - Make Pakistan Great Again: Thursday, February 6th, 2025

Episode Date: February 6, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good morning, millennials. Welcome back to the toast and happy Thursday. That feels right. That feels appropriate. That feels fair. It feels just. I feel like the last 24 hours have just been so tumultuous for me that it feels like a whole new week.
Starting point is 00:00:17 Like I'm on a whole new planet now, you know? Not tumultuous. Tumultuous? Like I just had the worst night, not to start off complaining, but I just had the worst night, not to start off complaining, but I just had the worst night's sleep, more sickness in the house, Charlie with the ear infection this morning.
Starting point is 00:00:32 Then- I stand by what I said yesterday. It's on. I'm throwing hands if I ever meet this infection that has infected both of my nephews. It's on. Then he was up throughout the night last night and when he woke up at 2.30, I woke up
Starting point is 00:00:44 and like I had full body aches Chill now you yeah, my throat was killing me. So I took one of my um High dose ibuprofen that I got prescribed when I gave birth like shout out to that prescription the gift that keeps I'm giving and I woke up feeling much better. But like my back is hurting again now, so it's just I'm in the thick of it I'm not even gonna pretend like I know what's going on in the world this morning was just so crazy. Like Bruno's already getting groomed. We had a window replaced this morning.
Starting point is 00:01:10 Like it's just been- Nothing's going on in the world. I can assure you. You've missed absolutely nothing. It's been wild. And then I was up late last night editing the redheads which dropped today. So if you wanna hear my better self, check that out.
Starting point is 00:01:23 Not to skip past everything you just said, I do wanna rewind really briefly to your use of the word tumultuous. I feel as though that's not a word we get, we use enough between you and I as a society, but also here at The Toast. And I just wanna make tumultuous great again. Okay, but also make language mean something again,
Starting point is 00:01:41 and don't use it. Malama. Don't use it extraneously. Make language mean something again and don't use it. Malama. Don't use it extraneously. Make language mean something again, that I definitely agree with. But tumultuous is a really good word. It reminds me of treacherous. Oh, I would also say my 25 hours were treacherous
Starting point is 00:01:56 in the definition that we use. And also what I learned in my book, The Gifts That Keeps On Giving, is that any word, no matter how it's pronounced or said, like if, even if it's wrong, if it goes that way for 10 years and that's how people use the word, like that's how language works,
Starting point is 00:02:09 it just becomes part of the lexicon. So like, let's keep redefining treacherous. I got to that part in the book last night, the guy at the liquor store. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Though, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:21 Yeah, no, I know what you're talking about because I also read, maybe I should host the Redheads. Are you enjoying the book? I am, ish. I mean, I don't see you like being obsessed with Phoebe. Well, that's the thing. It's for me, a book automatically goes down to star if the main character who's POV we're reading from
Starting point is 00:02:40 is unlikable or not someone I can champion. Yeah. And I'm very much like a self-starter, a dust yourself off type of gal. I try and see the positive in life. And I just feel like this girl is, like life is hard a hundred percent. And she's just like, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:02:54 I feel like she's not helping her situation at all. What percent are you at? Like three. Oh, okay. Okay. I'm gonna let you go on the ride. I'm not gonna foist any expectations onto you. Yeah, I just watched the episode of Curb, foist. With the foist.
Starting point is 00:03:12 So funny. So good. What's, I know you didn't have like a fab marning, I didn't have like a particularly exciting one. The fab marring I was hoping for. How's your marring? It's relatively standard, which I guess comparatively, like it's amazing to yours, but it snowed in NYC last night,
Starting point is 00:03:31 had to wear my snow boots to work last night, but that type of snow where it also rained. So not only did it not stick, we didn't get any party. That's your least favorite. We got no party vibes. You got brown. And like the kids still have to go to school. Now there's sludge on the ground, like gray, sludgy ice.
Starting point is 00:03:47 Thanks. Well, how's your new commute, by the way? I feel like you talked a lot about your old commute and a lot about how you were looking forward to the new one, but like, what's it been like? I don't even know where our new studio is. I think the sheer fact that I haven't remarked on it is really all you need to know,
Starting point is 00:04:00 because a commute should be, an ideal commute like requires no commentary, you know? There's no crazy traffic, there's no crazy walking, it's just like two and brown. Will you text me where the new studio is just so I can like... Do you not know the address? I don't know like the cross streets.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Can you just text it to me so I can put myself in your... In this very moment? So I can put myself in your snow boots. You want me to do it right now? Yeah, just so I can put myself in your snow boots. Yeah, sure, do it right now? Yeah, just so I can put myself in your snow boots. Yeah, sure, sure, sure. You know, like to place myself in the context of everything my sisters experienced this morning.
Starting point is 00:04:33 I feel like I really matched the studio today. Oh, you know what? I had a thought about the frames that I wanted to say. Oh, okay, are you reframing? No, so this is what I was thinking, because of course, like we've been making so many jokes about the frames and like people like really, really don't like them.
Starting point is 00:04:48 And it's like, why would we continue to do something like out of spite that people don't like? And so I imagined myself taking down the frames and it made me sad because I like them. I feel like we never said that. Like, I feel like we just start being like stubborn. But I just wanna say like, I personally really like them and I would consider taking that down,
Starting point is 00:05:08 but they make that makes me sad because I really like them. I agree. I like them a lot. And I especially like how they look in our vertical video, which is huge for us when we promote our show, like our clips on social media. It's a huge, it's like our one and only means of marketing our show. And yes, we like them a lot.
Starting point is 00:05:27 And it's also like effective for different formats for us. And if we were to take them down, which we're not, like they are welded to the wall. We'd have to redo the wallpaper. Like they are staying. And I just want to say like everyone, you're allowed to have your opinion 100%. You could say they're the ugliest frames
Starting point is 00:05:40 you've ever seen in your life. And that's valid. That is your truth 100%. But I actually need the people who are saying they're getting vertigo and migraines and they have to stop watching because of the frames. I actually need you to calm down because even by my standards, that is so fucking dramatic.
Starting point is 00:05:54 You're gonna be okay, you could still watch a show and the frames are setting. Yeah, I just feel like we never said how much we liked them. We were just sticking it to the maniosis. No, no, this whole like aesthetic is our choice. Like we chose all this. We love it. And so I won't take them down because that would make me sad.
Starting point is 00:06:09 I would climb into bed and I start feeling sad. Right. At the end of the day, like we sit here, you know, we look at the frames. Actually the frames kind of look at us. Yeah. Oh, the frames. I texted you our new studio address if you're interested in placing yourself.
Starting point is 00:06:25 That's actually not where I was thinking it was. So I am so glad to know where you are in this world. Yeah, it's a good world and it's a good studio. And I'm so glad to be out of that old studio. And yes, you haven't heard about my commute because it's been so non-eventful, nothing to write home about. That's so great.
Starting point is 00:06:44 Yeah, it's Thursday, very chill kind of day, so non-eventful, nothing to write home about. That's so great. Yeah. It's Thursday, very chill kind of day, kind of sandwich between Dear Toasters, sandwich between Queenie and Weenie. And? I'm not gonna lie. Not this week. And Southern Charm recap.
Starting point is 00:06:58 Oh, is that today? No, that's Friday, but it's sandwich between. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. All the things we do on Friday. I am a part of Southern Charm Erasure. Like I, for some reason just like can't, and I have nothing against it. I like all the castmates, they've come on the toes.
Starting point is 00:07:13 They're actually really lovely people. I think it's a great show. For some reason, like I just can't get on board with it. I actually think of all the reality shows, the cast members in person are some of the best people. Agreed. They're like, I know there are some of the best people. They're like, I know there are also more like real people, I guess other reality shows they live in LA or New York
Starting point is 00:07:30 and they're very like celebrity, but like Southern Charm, it's just like seriously filming real people living in Charleston. And then when the cameras go down, like they go back to their regular lives. And like when you meet them, they really are very similar to who they portray on the show.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Sometimes you'll meet a reality star who's like so different from the character that they play. It's like really like a role for them. Whereas Southern Charm people are just like filming themselves. It's not even like a role whatsoever. Yeah, yeah. They don't like step into the villain role.
Starting point is 00:07:56 They're just being themselves. They're just villains. And I do also feel like Southern Charm has been coming up a lot in the culture. Culture, of course. Like it's good that I'm staying on top of it, you know? Yeah, Paige and Craig. I don't just do it like for my health. No, no, you do it for the health of the business.
Starting point is 00:08:13 Exactly. That's beautiful. Well, we don't really have a lot to recap in the pre fast five banter today. So if you wanted to dive in, I would be open unless you had anything else you wanted to discuss, any issues you want to take umbrage with me, you want to like start a fight? No, should I wanna start a fight with you?
Starting point is 00:08:27 Like, did you do something to me? I don't know. You didn't? Not to my knowledge. No, that's really been my last 24 hours editing Redheads and oh, and we can't add a fifth host because like the way this show looks when it's edited, like the amount of cuts, it's so crazy.
Starting point is 00:08:41 So no, and then just like sickness. So I'm really hoping for brighter days ahead and hopefully like I don't get much worse. Hopefully like this is it for me, this low grade. I also feel like in years past, the week leading up to the Super Bowl, like we've been talking about the Super Bowl so little, whereas in weeks past, it's like every day
Starting point is 00:09:01 there's big news coming out, but not this year. I feel like it's kind of low key. It does feel like that. I keep forgetting it's the Super Bowl this weekend. Yeah. And the only reason I even remember that all those people are New Orleans is because some of the videos of Travis
Starting point is 00:09:16 at press conferences have gone viral. That's literally all I've seen. That's all I've seen from the Super Bowl, right? Oh, when I saw a picture of Jaylen and Patrick Mahomes wearing the same outfit, twinning, like, on purpose. On purpose? Oh, cute, cute, cute. Yeah, it was like a tracksuit. No, I saw, like, so many clips from Travis's press conference
Starting point is 00:09:34 yesterday that was actually making me butt clench and making me embarrassed to be of the same species as that reporter from CNBC. And I actually think, not that I'm pro cancel culture in any way, but I don't know how do we get these journalists to stop acting this way unless we name shame and blame. So yes, CNBC and Nickelodeon, did you see the CNBC girl? She was trying to ask questions about sports,
Starting point is 00:09:58 but from her angle, which is finance, she works for CNBC, I don't know why the fuck she's at the Super Bowl, but okay. So she's like, let me get in there with like an finance question, but let me also take a little bit of a Taylor Swift angle. So she was trying to do so much with her question, talk to somebody who works in sports about her beat,
Starting point is 00:10:17 which is finance, and then also make a moment with Taylor. Travis, do you think diamonds are a good investment? And he's like, yeah. Yeah, and he brought it back to the Super Bowl ring. He's pretty young, he's pretty sly. Oh, which was a great answer. That was a great answer, but she wouldn't give up. She would not be deterred.
Starting point is 00:10:34 She was like, are you gonna be purchasing any diamonds anytime soon? And he was like, I don't know. For the most part, we're always saying he's very gracious with these people, but you could tell he's at like the end of his rope. He was like, I don't know. I'll have to see what I need.
Starting point is 00:10:53 Maybe some earrings, that's what he said. I think he's been gracious like to his own detriment because he has allowed people, they're not scared of him. They're not scared to ask him embarrassing questions. And I think that if they got more of a cold shoulder, like other athletes give them when they ask stupid questions, like they would come correct. And then she finished off the interview
Starting point is 00:11:10 with like the most random dumb bad question, proof that she needs to not only leave the Superbowl, she needs to leave this industry. She goes, any good stocks right now? That's me, my first day in this country on planet Earth. I'm an alien from a different planet. And I come and I need to pretend to be a journalist
Starting point is 00:11:32 who works at CNBC. So I would say, any good stocks right now? Did he have an answer? Yeah, he actually made her feel stupid. Thank you. He goes, I don't know, I'd have to talk to like my financial advisors. I'm a, oh Travis, what does he play? A tight end.
Starting point is 00:11:48 I'm a football player. I'm not too sure about that. He's like, I'm not too sure. I haven't spoken to my finance people about it. Such a dumb question. I actually wanted to die for everyone involved. And you're right, at first he was really admirable how he handled some of these clowns with kid hands
Starting point is 00:12:06 and was very playing around, ha ha ha. But now it's his third Super Bowl. People have really taken his kindness for weakness and they're getting worse. Yeah, he's gotta put his foot down. He's gotta bring out mean Travy. Yeah, and you could tell his vibe was shifting, but he can't be rude for a million reasons.
Starting point is 00:12:26 And he's also just not a rude person, but sometimes it's like- Everyone has their limit. Yeah, and I just think, I think it's time he hit his, like really, we're due, we're due. Yeah, damn, well yes, the Super Bowl this weekend. What are you doing for the Super Bowl?
Starting point is 00:12:42 Me and Ben were discussing last night, he was like, you know, telling me all the offerings, places we could go, people we could do with, and none of it sounded as good as watching it in my bed. Yeah. So that's where we landed. And I said, next year we can go balls to the wall, but like not to be,
Starting point is 00:12:56 it has nothing to do with being pregnant, honestly. It's the fact that like, I like the Super Bowl. Like I like to watch it like television. When you're at a party, everyone's talking, chatting, and you can't hear anything, you can't watch the commercials. Like it's just not premium. I like to, I have to come here and recap it.
Starting point is 00:13:09 What are you gonna eat? That's what Ben and I were discussing after we decided to just stay in bed. And he's gonna come to me with a list of things and we'll either veto or move forward. You'll prepare the menu? Yeah. Yummo.
Starting point is 00:13:20 Yeah, what about you? I'm watching my neighbors. My neighbors invited us for like a Super Bowl party. Wasn't expecting to take a stray bullet on the toast this morning. Are they hosting or are you? They're hosting, which is so nice for me. Oh, that's good.
Starting point is 00:13:35 At least you're not like opening up your home to people who aren't me. And what time does the game start? Does anyone know? It's probably. I think it's late. Yeah, so then I'll have to come home for like to put the boys down. And then I'll stay's late. Yeah, so then I'll have to come home for like to put the boys down
Starting point is 00:13:46 and then I'll stay watching here. So that way I'll get like the social element and I can also hopefully make it home for like halftime show and like the entertainment. Yeah, I just think like when you're as serious about sports as we are, you can't be out partying at the Super Bowl. You have to really.
Starting point is 00:14:02 You can't miss a moment. You can't miss a moment. So hopefully like they start doing stuff soon. Like there's been no news. That's a fun part. Everybody, they've been down there for a whole week. Like what's the day? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:11 It does feel very low key. New Heights had like a big party last night. Oh wow. I didn't even know. Yeah. Jason Kelsey hosted. Obviously Travis couldn't go, but like all these brands, everybody's down at the Super Bowl, like trying to make a moment. And New Heights had like a big party last night.
Starting point is 00:14:22 I just wanna say none of you are making a moment. No, I know. The only reason I know about it is Breanna Chickenfry went and she was like freaking if Taylor was gonna be there, she wasn't there. But I saw her getting ready for it and that's the only reason I knew. That's so crazy. Where is the hype?
Starting point is 00:14:34 Am I like not on the right platforms? I'm everywhere. You're 100% right, cause also I've been like looking for stories all morning and I forgot it was the Super Bowl on Sunday. Like it's not. And where are the celebs stepping out spending time in New Orleans?
Starting point is 00:14:45 Like where is all of it? It's such a good question. Okay. Like I'm glad about the only one feeling like this is a weird Super Bowl. Yeah. Cause my memory was in Arizona, like every day there was a big party.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Like everyone was there. Vegas. What is it? I don't know. Maybe it'll ramp up soon. Maybe it'll ramp up soon. Cause right now only the players are there. Like the celebrities and influencers probably get there for the weekend, like today, tomorrow. No, I saw a lot of people there, like on social media,
Starting point is 00:15:11 exclusively through Brianna Chicken Fry. Like all the Barstool people are down there. She's your Super Bowl correspondent. Literally. Yeah. Okay. Okay. I want the content, where is it?
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Starting point is 00:19:41 Our first story, The Kardashian season six premiered in the middle of the night. I should have watched that while I couldn't fall asleep. Literally in the middle of the night. Literally, I mean, the episodes drop at midnight, but you would think a premiere like they would have given it to us in a timely manner. Anytime we're like talking about the Kardashian show,
Starting point is 00:19:58 like it's so annoying, like, because first of all, they should 100% go midnight. No, no, no, they should 100% go midnight. No, no, no, they should go 9 p.m. Eastern time. Yeah, whatever. Like the fact that they really said at midnight, which is fine, like we can all watch it the next day, but then all the news stories are out, like spoiling it.
Starting point is 00:20:17 It's such an inefficient way to fucking launch a show. It pisses me off, actually. We say this every season. I know, and why is nobody listening? They're straight up ignoring us. But Kardashians premiered in the middle of the night a couple of news making headlines because Khloe reunited with Lamar
Starting point is 00:20:33 for the first time in nine years on the show. And she's talking. And this was like a big thing that came out of the trailer. And I'm surprised they dropped it in the first episode. I don't know why I thought they'd be teasing it the whole like season. Well, I'm glad that they didn't. Me too. Yeah. She's talking about the trauma of unloving
Starting point is 00:20:47 him and talking about their marriage and the good times and how Lamar was truly like the love of her life. She had a secret meeting with him at Malika's house. She didn't tell her sisters or mom because like Chris would have been crying and they had a conversation that I haven't had a chance to watch yet. But the first conversation in years. It was really weird, honestly. He was an hour late and he came and he was actually so guilty. He was sweating and nervous and mumbling his words.
Starting point is 00:21:15 I think he was probably just nervous, but it was weird. And I understand why Chloe felt like having the emotional support of Malika there would be beneficial for her. But to be honest, I found Malika's presence like really annoying. But at the end, but they weren't having like a good conversation.
Starting point is 00:21:30 But, and Malika kept just like intervening, like to help with the awkwardness. And maybe if she wasn't there, like it wouldn't have been better, but I don't know. It just felt like so private. Yeah. And Chloe basically has all this stuff from, I think she's moving or whatever.
Starting point is 00:21:45 All this old stuff of Lamar's that she had wanted to give back to him. And Chloe basically has all this stuff from, I think she's moving or whatever, all this old stuff of Lamar's that she had wanted to give back to him. She was moving, she just built that house. Or like she built the house and while she was moving, she found all this stuff and so she had it packed up for him. And so you see him opening his six man award. And like really important stuff she had. Were you okay?
Starting point is 00:22:00 No, no, you guys know the six man award like means everything to me. Yeah. This necklace she had made him that was like, he guys know the six man award like means everything to me. Yeah. This necklace she had made him that was like, he wore all the time this big diamond necklace that had three angel wings representing his mom, his grandma and his son who he lost. And it was like, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:22:15 it wasn't hitting in the way that I thought it would when I thought these two would be reunited. Now I've seen people online saying that like, justice for Lamar, this felt very exploitative. And I don't agree with that. He definitely was uncomfortable being on camera, but he had said, cause she's like, what know, Justice for Lamar, this felt very exploitative. And I don't agree with that. He definitely was uncomfortable being on camera, but he had said, cause she's like, what are you up to? He's like, I'm just hustling, you know?
Starting point is 00:22:30 He doesn't play anymore. He's doing reality shows, keeping up with sports. Like he is definitely his hustler era. He has rehabilitation centers. Yeah, so I actually think like, this was probably a really good opportunity. I'm sure he got paid, not a ton, but like to be on the show, you just have to get paid.
Starting point is 00:22:44 And just more exposure for him and his businesses. Like it's all like this in this line of work, like them having him on is actually big for him. So I get why people feel like it was weird because people feel very protective of him and he's very sensitive. I didn't think it was exploitative. I just thought like, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:23:00 I didn't feel, I didn't get like resolution. And then they were just flashing back to like old footage of them. And it's such a time, like it's literally a different time. It's so crazy. And it's sad obviously, but I feel like I've stopped feeling sad about these two a little while ago.
Starting point is 00:23:15 Yeah, it seems like the conversation was probably just sad because there's two people who love each other. And Chloe, you know, if it were up to her, she would have been with him for the long term, but like bigger issues were at play. And the conversation got it, like got off to a bad start because the first thing he said is like, where's Rob? I think he thought they were at Chloe's house. They were at Malika's house and they were like, Rob's at his house. This is Malika's house. And I think just the immediate mention of Rob, I think brought Chloe back. Like Rob was a huge part of the
Starting point is 00:23:42 end of their relationship and Chloe like never really expressly said what happened, but when they were all living together in that house that Jessica Simpson lived in, Chloe had said that was like some of the darkest times. That's like really when we stopped seeing Rob after that. So I don't know what the hell went down, but clearly like the three of them were a very toxic group where at first they were like so tight
Starting point is 00:24:01 and then things got weird with Lamar and Rob, I think like doing bad things. So when he said that, I think it like, it didn't break the ice in a good way. Like for me, my immediate reaction was like, no, don't mention Rob. Was there any talk of keeping up with sports? No.
Starting point is 00:24:18 Well, that's a real shame. No, I agree, I agree. I don't know, this didn't hit. The thing is I'm actually happy for Kardashians on Hulu because I feel like for the last couple of years, they keep trying to make moments on the show and they just really fall flat. People are not, I can't remember the last time
Starting point is 00:24:32 something that happened on the show really became, I opened my TikTok the next day and it's everything that I see. And that's what I saw this morning. So I'm happy for them that they tried to make a moment and they actually worked. I think it's good for the show. And now people are talking about the premiere. They react to news on the show, they don't make a moment and they actually worked. I think it's good for the show. And now people are talking about the premiere.
Starting point is 00:24:45 They react to news on the show, they don't make the news. It's not like news making things, it's just reacting to things that happen. Cause another thing that I saw was Kim was talking about the roast of Tom Brady and her experience. Oh, to be clear, I didn't watch the whole episode. I just watched obviously Chloe and Lamar 10 minutes in. No, I thought that this was really interesting
Starting point is 00:25:03 cause she was blasting one of the comedians who pretty much just like called her a whore. And then people went back and it's a comedian, Tony Hinchcliffe. Classic. And she was talking about how like that just like bothered her and it's just like the low hanging fruit of jokes and that like she never wants to do a roast again. Well, I can't even imagine why she would wanna do it
Starting point is 00:25:23 in the first place, but some lessons have to be learned the hard way. And I agree, it's like not a creative again. Well, I can't even imagine why she would want to do it in the first place, but some lessons have to be learned the hard way. And I agree, it's like not a creative joke. Like if you're gonna make, but that's the thing about a roast, you walk into a roast and it's like no holds bar. It's like very low, it's low bar, bottom of the barrel,
Starting point is 00:25:35 like really below the belt type of shit. So Kim being Kim, like she should have known what people were gonna say about her, like sex tape, haha. It's not a creative joke. Somebody really funny and smart wasn't making a joke like that. Yeah. So I agree with her and I doubt she'll ever show up
Starting point is 00:25:53 to a roast ever again. Yeah, but I thought it was- Plus she got booed. Oh, that's right. But I felt like the roast in general, like the news that came from it was good for her. Like she did well and maybe she had like- Kim?
Starting point is 00:26:05 Yeah. No, oh my God, everyone was just talking about the booing. The booing, yeah, I guess. I don't know, I remember like her jokes doing well and- I don't even remember people talking about her jokes. I couldn't even recite one joke. She made all I remember was the news about her getting booed. Oh, so yeah, I guess that's why
Starting point is 00:26:18 she wouldn't want to do it again. Yeah, of course. And then like when they do talk about her, they call her a whore. Why would she ever sign up for that? I don't know. No, whenever I think about roasts, not to bring up Joan Rivers documentary,
Starting point is 00:26:27 but it is a timeless piece of art. She is getting ready for, she's been chosen to be like a Comedy Central roast. And she's like, it's an honor, it's an honor. It's the last thing on the planet she wants to do. She knows everyone's just gonna like make fun of her face and her plastic surgery. And it's like not funny, it's not smart, it's not creative,
Starting point is 00:26:43 but it's so much money. And it's quote, an honor. And she hates every smart, it's not creative, but it's so much money and it's quote an honor and she hates every minute of it. She just like sits through it for the money and also for like the platform. And ever since then, like I just find roasts like of women, I find them repugnant. Yeah, for it to be your own roast
Starting point is 00:26:57 because even the Martha Stewart documentary, like she got roasted at Justin Bieber's, but net net it was good for her, but still you have to sit there and listen to those disgusting jokes about yourself. Like it better. It just, it's different for a woman too. Like the jokes are just so disgusting.
Starting point is 00:27:10 Like they talk about like your low hanging vagina. It's really, really, it's disgusting. But they can also be enormously like helpful and rehabilitated for someone's image, Justin Bieber. Nikki Glaser. Oh, well, yes. I'm talking about if you are the subject of a post. Two things, subject and then also panelists
Starting point is 00:27:26 to you are a open season. If you're sitting up on the dais. Yeah, I could never, I will never participate. Insane. People who like have their birthday party and they're like, I want it to be a roast of me. Jackie, when we were in Portugal for Brian's 40th, like on the last night, he wanted a roast
Starting point is 00:27:45 and he asked me to host it and he had like six or seven people roast him. And I said, like, what obviously can't we talk about? Like, just tell me and I'll tell everyone. And he was like, nothing. Like he was seriously like, I don't give a fuck. That is, could never be me. Yeah, but also when people have like their friends
Starting point is 00:28:00 write roasts for them, your friends aren't like seasoned comics and your friends aren't going for like really disgusting jokes. You're just like telling embarrassing stories more. It's different than like a professional roast with comics who write like dirty jokes. Yes, but it's also like those comics
Starting point is 00:28:15 are trained in the art of like writing jokes. Whereas your friend just like wants to do a roast. Like I just feel like it could go so sideways and all it takes is one comment. So seriously ruin your night and ruin your friendship. But you, it takes a certain type of person to request that sort of activity for your birthday. You can't, and if somebody does say something
Starting point is 00:28:33 completely out of line, you are, you have no ground to stand on, you cannot be mad. That's what you're saying, you can't be mad. You can't be mad. Okay. If it's like a regular person having a birthday party. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This was literally your idea.
Starting point is 00:28:47 The vlog squad used to do that. Do you remember that? No. Back in the vlog squad, like heyday, one of the things that they did that people loved was like for some of the members birthday, they would like rent out a comedy club and they would vlog the whole thing and would all be online and people would like die because it would be like members of the vlog squad who you know, roasting other members and it got real. It was like, it was dark. I could never. Could never. It was mostly the male members. I could never. Well, speaking of Tom Brady, our next story is some related news because Bizzell, Giselle Bunchin. Bizzelle Junction. Bizzelle Junction is now a mom of three. She has welcomed her first baby with her boyfriend Joaquin Valente. We reported a few months ago
Starting point is 00:29:23 that she was pregnant and now she has given birth to a new bebe. I have loved how this story has unfolded for Giselle, honestly, you'd love to see, she played the long game and now, Nett Nett, she's probably in such a better place, so much happier, not that it's a competition between her and Tom, but if it was, he would be losing. It's not not.
Starting point is 00:29:43 And we know it was hard for her, we know he really forced her hand to this divorce. And even as recently as like maybe a year ago, like before her pregnancy announcement, when she was pulled over by the cop and she just had like that breakdown, it's been very difficult for her. And I love to see her now in this era of her life thriving.
Starting point is 00:30:01 And when you look at Tom Brady, not that he's not thriving, but I don't feel like he has a lot of personal happiness. Yeah, I don't think he has a lot of personal happiness. And as we said, when we found out she was pregnant, like I love this like turning its stereotype on its head, because typically like after a long term marriage, like the man can go off and have another baby
Starting point is 00:30:18 and men can do those things. And at a certain age, like a woman can't, but she- Because she keeps her body like a temple. Yeah. And so- She's been able to flip the series. She's got like the younger man and the new baby. Young baby. And it's just, it's so great for women.
Starting point is 00:30:33 I totally forgot that that was your analysis on the subject and it's so poignant actually, like dead serious. It's almost scholarly. It never happens. It doesn't get to happen a lot because of just biology. Science, yeah. No, it's really pargy. I love this. I'm really happy for her. What do we think the baby's name is?
Starting point is 00:30:51 She also doesn't give a flying fuck about public life anymore. We know things about Gisele just because she's so famous. She doesn't share. I think that she's really been, she's had enough. I think she saw an ugly side of it with her divorce and stuff. So, I don't know, there's not gonna be
Starting point is 00:31:04 a big baby name announcement. I wonder what we're gonna find out. Yeah, probably some casual, maybe a vogue interview. Yeah, or like she's paparazzied and wearing a necklace that says like, you know, David. Yeah, yeah. Is it a boy or a girl? We don't know.
Starting point is 00:31:20 Third child. Oh, wow, so yeah, she's really keeping it under wraps. Anyways, Mazel Tov. Mazel Tov, it's nice. Are you ready for our third story? I hate to take us back here, but a new development in the Blake Lively, Baldoni saga is that Blake Lively is now facing
Starting point is 00:31:39 a $7 million defamation lawsuit from the crisis publicist that she claims weaponized a digital army against her. And this is also important because like that AstroTurf situation is very much a cornerstone of our opinion on this matter. And which publicist is suing him? Jed Wallace of the Texas based crisis management firm Street Relations.
Starting point is 00:32:04 So is this the company they were alleging facilitated the astroturfing? Yes, he is suing her alleging defamation. This comes after she filed the petition on January 21st requesting a deposition from Wallace, which was then rescinded Tuesday according to Wallace's lawsuit. So her PR team claimed that he weaponized a digital army
Starting point is 00:32:25 around the country from New York to LA to create seed and promote content So her PR team claimed that he weaponized a digital army around the country from New York to LA to create seed and promote content that appeared to be authentic on social media platforms and internet chat forums. Now his lawyers are claiming in a new lawsuit that her petition conceded that Lively has no facts supporting the allegations she made against Wallace and Street in the precursor, which made headlines around the world
Starting point is 00:32:41 as she now apparently under the threat of sanctions from one of the plaintiff's attorneys sought to investigate the scope of Mr. Wallace's conduct. So now this part is even up for debate. Right, and I can't imagine why this guy would throw his, first of all, because we talk about the astroturfing all the time. I actually didn't know the name of the company
Starting point is 00:32:58 or the guy who she was alleging who did it, but now we do. So if you're gonna throw your hat in the race and like your name out there in public, like you really must feel like you've been wronged. Yeah. Because he was living like kind of a pargy, anonymous part of this.
Starting point is 00:33:11 Like I'm sure some of the people who are like, you know, reading every document that comes out know his name. But for the most part, like it's been, you know, Justin Blake Ryan, maybe some of the publicist, Melissa Nathan, Jennifer Abel, Jones Works PR, but I hadn't heard, so now we know, and it's like, well, you must have something to prove, sir.
Starting point is 00:33:31 So this will be big in terms of what happens here, just in terms of how we perceive this case, but also just everyone slinging these lawsuits around, like she filed against him, so then he filed against her, and he's deposed, Like it's very confusing. It is. And I just, I had read an article yesterday that with Justin Baldoni's case,
Starting point is 00:33:51 it's possible that Taylor Swift will be deposed. I saw that. Which would be so crazy. Cause depositions are public filings. Like you can watch them. Yeah. I saw that. Also, yeah, Taylor's a little bit included here too. And from one meeting.
Starting point is 00:34:05 From the meeting, but don't forget the song. Yeah, but the song. I think she like took over with the soundtrack is what I was seeing. Is that what Justin's saying? I don't know who's saying. Right. I don't know who's saying.
Starting point is 00:34:19 So I think any chance of people thinking that Blake would show up at the Superbowl with Taylor is pretty much kaput now. And then Miles Taylor was saying, he was interviewed on some dreadful late night show about the Super Bowl. It sounds like he might be with Taylor. Because of Kelly.
Starting point is 00:34:36 And he's the biggest Eagles fan, so he would be going to the Super Bowl anyway. Yeah, but would he want to sit in a Chiefs box? That's what they were asking him. How do you stay true to yourself in a situation like that? But Kylie's a big, I mean, half the family are Eagles fans. Yes, so I don't, that's true, actually.
Starting point is 00:34:53 Jason will be in that suite too, right? Yeah, and Kylie, who I actually think is a bigger Eagles fan than Jason. Unless Jason's actually working the game, because he is like an MC or broadcaster, whatever the word is. That stinks for him. But I have wondered about Taylor's friendship with Kelly.
Starting point is 00:35:06 Like they were really hot and strong and then they kind of fizzled. So I'll be curious to see if she's there. Yeah, that will be a fun element of the Super Bowl. It is, that is a fun element of like- Who Taylor's gonna bring. Well, no, like what celebrities go. And I feel like the last couple of years
Starting point is 00:35:21 it's been so celeb heavy, cause it was Vegas, it was the Rams, like it's been a good couple of years for the Super Bowl. Now I think the Chiefs and the Eagles both have a lot of like famous fans, Bradley Cooper, Miles Taylor, famously for the Eagles, Taylor and crew for the Chiefs. Paul Rudd. So Paul Rudd, oh, weirdly came from Modern Family
Starting point is 00:35:39 is a huge Chiefs fan. He goes to every game, he's like one of the OG celebrity fans. So I'm sure they'll all be there. So it is a good chief staff. No, he goes to every game. He's like one of the OG celebrity fans. So I'm sure they'll all be there. So it is a good like celebrity. Sometimes when like, when you're thinking about like who you wanna play in the Super Bowl from RPOV,
Starting point is 00:35:51 like you have to think about like, who's gonna bring the most celebrities. Yeah, but then the Super Bowl itself just brings celebrities. It does, it does, it does for sure. Okay, so I was watching TikTok. There's like this guy on the street. He's like, well known now. He just goes up and asks people,
Starting point is 00:36:07 what do you do for a living? And then he ends up just like chatting with them. And so he like attacks people, but then they're like, wait, you're the guy from TikTok. So it's whatever. He stumbled upon, it's always in the West Village. I was watching one of his videos and somebody like wouldn't stop for him.
Starting point is 00:36:20 And it was Bradley Cooper. Do you think that those videos are planned at all? No, because Bradley Cooper was with his daughter and kept walking. Like he clearly was not, the guy shouldn't have posted it like for real. Like first of all, like the daughter was in it and Bradley was like, sorry, no.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Like how you would if somebody's on the street handing out flyers? You're like, no thanks. He didn't get anything from it. So the guy just like went on to another person, but I was kind of shook to see. Sometimes they are staged. Like there's that guy who walks around New York City.
Starting point is 00:36:46 Yeah. And like, it's true Barrymore. Yeah, of course. Like that's coordinated. Those are mostly staged though. I guess I've only seen like the more high profile ones. But yeah, like you want to clean your house. How do you know that this person is even going to have an interesting place to look at? Or that the person coming into your home
Starting point is 00:37:03 is not a serial killer. Right. Right. Yeah. I would say that the person coming into your home is not a serial killer. Right, right. Yeah, I would say that the apartment ones are definitely mostly staged, but the guy in the street, he mostly talks to, not nobody, he's like regular folks, hearing what they do for a living, if they love their job, what's the best part of your job,
Starting point is 00:37:15 I love your outfit, where does your confidence come from? He asks weird questions like that. And so it's usually just folks, regular, lay people. And that's different from the guy in LA who goes to people with nice cars and says, what do you do for a living? And then David Beckham- Daniel Mack.
Starting point is 00:37:29 Says that he's a chef. So that's Daniel Mack, yeah. He started out doing really, I think, totally authentic, not staged, going up to people on Rodeo Drive. He would not only go to LA, he would go to just interesting places, like F1, he would stand outside F1
Starting point is 00:37:43 and be like, who are you? And then he became so popular. I would say almost all of his videos are staged now cause he'll go up to somebody and be like, I love your car, what do you do for a living? And they're like, wanna see my house or my boat? And then he goes on like spends the whole day and he's like getting drunk on a yacht.
Starting point is 00:37:56 It's very funny. Now they're all, I would say like staged. And these are all separate people who do. They are all separate people, correct. I know that the car guy's named Daniel, the house guy's named Caleb, and I don't know what like the guy who talks to regular people in the West Village is named. Got it. Cool, cool. Yeah, it's an interesting format. Are you ready for our next story, our fourth story? Is it our fourth story that's brought to you by the farmer's dog? It is. So, healthy habits don't just apply to human beings.
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Starting point is 00:40:03 It was, I mean, I'm still pregnant, sorry. When I was at your house and pregnant, I was doing like one of my midday naps. It was such a game changer. And then I saw a lot of people on social media, like just raving about different bedding products from Cozy Earth. They're all made of bamboo. So they make bamboo sheet sets, bamboo pajama sets, the sheets redefine what it means to relax. Imagine the softest bedding, like sleeping on a cloud. Plus their temperature regulated. They make every bed feel like a mini getaway right in your own home. And then there are pajama sets, which are also bamboo.
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Starting point is 00:41:21 T-O-A-S-T-B-O-G-O. Thank you, turdbogo. H-O-S-T-B-O-G-O. Thank you, turdbogo. H-O-T-C-B-O-G-O. That's so funny, I was gonna say T-O-A-S-T-B-O-G-O. There's something there. Our next story is a bit of viral news that Claudia sent my way this morning because an American woman in Pakistan
Starting point is 00:41:41 is baffling the internet as she refuses to leave after her planned marriage to a teenager fell apart. I hate when that happens. Let me tell you about this because what's so great about this not only is it viral news, it's global news. And it's bringing the world together. And I have to shout out the media in Pakistan
Starting point is 00:41:57 who like saw this happening and have made this such a moment. So this woman is from New York. What's her name? I'm sorry, I can never remember. Um, Onija Andrew Robinson. She's 32. She's 32, she's from New York, she's a mother of four. And she met someone online from Pakistan.
Starting point is 00:42:15 And they struck up some sort of friendship, relationship, what have you. She decided to fly to Pakistan to meet him and to marry him. And upon her arrival, she goes to his house. This is in October. She goes to his house. She's on a 14 day visa, which has obviously since expired.
Starting point is 00:42:32 She goes to his house, she meets his family and the family's like, no, he's 19. You're a 32 year old mother, a four from New York. No. And he breaks up with her and that should be the end of it, right? No. She decides to camp outside his house.
Starting point is 00:42:50 At first, I think in protest to them breaking up and it's somewhat of a romantic move, but then she starts to spend time in Pakistan. I think she really falls in love with the people, the culture, the food, the place. And she sees a lot of corruption as you would in any organized civilized society. And she is feeling upset that, the culture, the food, the place. And she sees a lot of corruption as you would in any organized civilized society. And she is feeling upset that, you know,
Starting point is 00:43:09 the bus routes are underfunded and the buildings aren't as good as they should be. And she decided to take on like more of a leadership role with all the media attention coming her way for standing outside of her lover's door. She begins to hold daily press conferences outside of this man's house. And not even so much about the man anymore,
Starting point is 00:43:29 more so about how to make Pakistan great again. And the press conferences are so funny. She is hysterical. She's claiming to be Muslim, she is not. She is so outrageous. She's demanding first 20,000, then 100,000, now 500,000 US dollars from the government to help make Pakistan great again.
Starting point is 00:43:52 She's like, what are you doing? Seriously, we outsourced to all these different countries. Like, let's outsource to Pakistan, they need us. She said the people are amazing, the food is amazing. Like, they need our help. And more and more Pakistani media come to her house. Well, not her house, her tent. Her boyfriend, ex.
Starting point is 00:44:07 Yeah. And by the way, her ex, ex whatever, and his family have fled the country. They want no part of this. They had no idea what their son was getting into. But she's become really this sort of viral moment, but also a voice of Pakistan. Now the story does take a bit of a sad turn because somebody who is alleging to be her son in America is like, this isn't funny. My mom has bipolar personality disorder. We need to get her home.
Starting point is 00:44:33 The woman will not go home. She has turned down so many flights. They literally keep trying to put, I don't know who. It's like the people of Pakistan, they kind of want her to stay, but the officials want her out. People in America want her out. They keep buying her flights.
Starting point is 00:44:45 She's not going to the airport. Like she will not leave. She's also breaking the law because she's on a 14 day visa that started in October. Right. She will not be deterred this woman from her passion, which at once was her 19 year old boyfriend, but is now the people of Pakistan.
Starting point is 00:44:59 And more so the infrastructure, if you will, of Pakistan, because she's seeing it, you know, with a fresh eye. Yeah, so what's her long-term plan? Citizenship? I don't know. I'm sure there's a movement within Pakistan to get her citizenship, to perhaps run for some sort of leadership role.
Starting point is 00:45:20 I'm not sure. All I know is that the people in Pakistan have decided to take this woman under their wing. They love her so much. She is so funny. Like she's just a real character. Her, um, so many of her like different press conference moments have gone viral, of course. She's hilarious and it's truly the strangest turn of events. If it does turn out that the guy who is pretending, well, not saying, who's saying he's her son is like telling the truth about her mental health then it's sad But for now, I'm still having fun
Starting point is 00:45:47 Yeah, that sounds that sounds fun for the internet and it's beautiful to see American and Pakistani media working together Yes, but also just sounds like she wants money in her pockets. She says okay. So what she had said she was actually really transparent, which I think we we Don't expect from leaders, but she had said listen. I want a hundred thousand twenty of its going in my pocket listen She can't do this for free. She doesn't know what I want to live She's standing us so she at least she's being honest with us about the funds She said twenty thousand going into my pocket like just no questions asked
Starting point is 00:46:19 But the rest is going to the buses and the buildings in the streets and the people okay Yeah, she's hilarious. I have to send you some of the press conferences. Jackie, the sheer volume of reporters, the microphones in her face, it looks like the OJ Simpson trial. Like, so you ever, like, see, when you remember that trial, like so many people like shoving microphones,
Starting point is 00:46:37 there must be 30 microphones in her face at once, and she is answering every single question. Well, we'll keep you posted on what's next. Yeah, I do feel like deportation is next, to be honest. She is breaking the law. She's- If they want her out of there, they can just deport her. I think the officials do want her out of there.
Starting point is 00:46:55 The media is loving it. But she's also like shining a spotlight on their dereliction of duty. So of course the officials want her out of there. It's true. And Pakistan hasn't had this viral of a moment on TikTok since to sacrifice my own life for Pakistan. Right.
Starting point is 00:47:09 So they were due. Yeah. And I think this is maybe better. I don't know. I think so. I think it's better. I really wish everybody in this story, I wish them well. I wish peace for the family of the 19 year old boy
Starting point is 00:47:20 who got themselves like, you know, they haven't known a moment's peace since this lady showed up in October. They have literally fled the country. I'm wishing them well. I'm wishing her well. If she is struggling with her mental health, obviously that's sad,
Starting point is 00:47:30 but she's brought joy to millions and that's not sad. No. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? Switching gears as we head into our Real Housewives recap, Housewives set. Because- Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't watch Real Housewives.
Starting point is 00:47:45 Did I not tell you that? No, you didn't. No, I just thought like, like this week was kind of a wash after I didn't do it yesterday. And like, I'll watch two next week. Now, like I'll catch you on the next one. Okay, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:47:54 Well, our fifth and final story, Housewives related, but Rebecca Minkoff confirms- Oh, yes. That she is not returning to Real Housewives of New York after her one season. So the friend of the cast confirmed her exit from the Bravo Show via Instagram on Tuesday
Starting point is 00:48:08 amid speculation that she was on her way out. She posted to her Instagram saying, 2025 is a new beginning for me and with current events in the world and being reminded the importance of family, friends and community now more than ever. What do current events have to do with it? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:48:23 Maybe people can't just like quit, like just quit. No and it's like you don't need to bring in the events. Family, friends and community were important six months ago. No like I hate shit like this like just either you don't have to tell us by the way like there I wouldn't be confused if you told me you were leaving I wouldn't it's not like the best most amazing show with the most wonderful opportunity like you can leave it's okay. Yeah she shared her attention to focus on her family and her career as much as I have learned along the way with the franchise and fans,
Starting point is 00:48:50 I wanted to reprioritize what means the most to me, designing, giving back, supporting women, and raising my family. This is like such a flop. Yeah, no, I actually think her entire journey on this show would be considered a flop one because the show isn't particularly good. And I think her joining was like a bit of a step down
Starting point is 00:49:08 for her, like based on who she is in New York, she has this huge business. And I know other ladies were like making fun of her bags like that they're ugly and sell at Marshall's, but like that's how you get rich. Like she's really, she's legit. Like say what you want. She's up there with Jenna Lyons, like for sure.
Starting point is 00:49:22 So I do think overall, like she will look back on this time and be like, that wasn't a good move because the show flopped. She didn't really particularly make any waves. And then she left with this weird statement. No, and to be a one season wonder, friend of, never made it all the way. Like that's just not what you're looking,
Starting point is 00:49:40 like seeking out when you sign on to the show. And I do really wonder like what the impetus behind her joining the show was, like to what end? sign on to the show. And I do really wonder like what the impetus behind her joining the show was like to what end. She doesn't need money. Perhaps it was like a little bit more personal fame. Like everybody knows the brand Rebecca Minkoff. Maybe they don't know Rebecca.
Starting point is 00:49:53 Yeah, probably personal fame and just like that's good for your business and rising tides raise all sides. And it's been really good for a lot of women who one came on successful or two created success for themselves like Bethany Yeah, also like even like Lisa Rinna Kathy Hilton like all of those women who were famous Before had like long careers on house eyes, even though Lisa is not on the show anymore. Like it was good for Lisa a thousand percent So Brynn is leaving. I don't believe this will be the last person we hear from, whether it comes to like getting fired or leaving,
Starting point is 00:50:26 but now we've lost Brynn and Rebecca. I don't know where the show goes from here. I don't entirely disagree with them rebooting this particular franchise, but. They rebooted it badly. Badly, yeah. I think it could be done in a better way. I think that if we are to keep two of that,
Starting point is 00:50:49 if we are to keep anyone from this franchise, and I don't think that we need to, I think it's okay to start again, I would keep Erin and I would keep Sai. Maybe Uba. That feels right based on what I've seen. Yeah. So just like big L for Rebecca Minkoff.
Starting point is 00:51:07 Yeah. That's really weird. Like, not the community. Okay, so I guess that's our show. Yeah, also, except I wanted to say one more thing. Abe Leachie was on the DuMois podcast. I saw a clip of it basically being like, yeah, we know a couple of people who are leaving.
Starting point is 00:51:25 We don't know what's up with the show. And I guess he was talking about Rebecca Minkoff, but then it reminded me, I saw a clip today. So Dave Portoy recorded the Dumois podcast. Okay. And it will not be airing because he said it was 30 minutes of him screaming at her. What?
Starting point is 00:51:40 And I guess she had asked, maybe she does, I've never been on her podcast. I think she asks all of her guests to sign an NDA so they can record via Zoom and like she can see them, but not, you know, sacrifice her identity. And he was like, no. So they just recorded like blind Zoom, like no without video. And he was just going on and on about how she's a coward.
Starting point is 00:51:58 And she posts, publishes lies about him, her friends, his friends, anyone he knows says, like really kind of saying all the things you would want, like a celebrity would want to say to DuMont. He was like, we were screaming at each other for 30 minutes and it's not going anywhere. And he was like, I wish she would publish it. I wish she would publish it too.
Starting point is 00:52:13 That sounds so interesting. I know. He did a guest spot on BFS, literally the only people making news at the Superbowl. BFS recorded a Superbowl episode and Dave rejoined, you know he left the podcast. I guess I do know. But he made a grand return and he told this story
Starting point is 00:52:28 and I thought it was so interesting. That is so interesting and she was yelling at him too? I think like he said we were yelling at each other, I'm sure it was like probably mostly him. And did he come on the show to yell at her? I don't know why he like agreed to the booking. And was it only turn because of the NDA thing and he wanted to just have a conversation and see her
Starting point is 00:52:45 and then that made him mad? Like, cause I guess that is a little maddening. I think the NDA thing was probably like something that pissed him off that like when the argument came up, he just like withdrew from his arsenal. But I think I would imagine he did not commit to the interview in good faith.
Starting point is 00:53:00 He was like, oh, I have an opportunity to yell at Dumois. Like let's do it. I think he has like a long standing hatred for her. Wouldn't she know that when she reaches out to him? Listen, it's hard to get a guest. Yeah. It's hard to book a guest in this day and age. Oh my goodness.
Starting point is 00:53:15 Yeah, it was a really crazy story. I would love to hear the raw footage. It's fascinating. Yeah. He told the story. But release the tapes, Dumois. Release the tapes. Yeah. I thought you would the story. But release the tapes, Dumas. Release the tapes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:26 I thought you would enjoy that. Maybe she will. Maybe like this actually will drum up, like this would be good for her because now everyone would listen. So maybe she will. It's true. All press is good press.
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