The Toast - Mannon Ford with Shannon Ford: Friday, April 28th, 2023

Episode Date: April 28, 2023

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Good morning, Millennials, and welcome back to The Toast. This is a very live, not live, sorry, very special episode of The Toast because we are podcasting from the desert. That's right, desert toast. And I'm sitting down with our fifth and final episode of the week with somebody whom I adore, somebody whom I respect, somebody who I also just hate because she's so beautiful. It's Shannon.

Hey, Shannon Ford. How are you? Hi, Claude. How you doing, turds? Turds is doing good. Turds is so excited to be shitting. Well, oh, we'll talk about that. Turds was shitting.

I am excited to be sitting down with Shannon, but I like to call her Manon because I spent the day traveling with Shannon yesterday and you learn so much about people when you travel with them and what I learned is like Shannon you are low-key a man you are man in you are a beast like the way you hustle and you hoist bags and you're just like strong wow okay I feel like that's very unsuspecting of me so I'm gonna stick with that nickname I wasn't expecting and I don't mean that in any sort of derogatory way about your looks because you know how I feel about you. Oh, thank you. You're absolutely stunning. But you are a man.

Okay. I feel like I'm going to accept that willingly and graciously because I've been working out. By the way, you're jacked. I'm jacked. Shannon was sending me pictures of her stagecoach outfits

and I literally didn't know who that was. Your arms, you're so toned. That sounds scary. You're now like madly in love with a personal trainer. Yeah, it does come with its pros and cons. the pros are that you get to work out and become strong and the cons are that you have to work out i know i don't think i could ever be like in a

relationship with somebody who is like he doesn't like professional fitness expert he doesn't like force me or anything but it is just one of those things where if he's going every day i just like such a slob kebab if i don't go with them you know so shannon and i are in the desert we're headed to stagecoach actually today is day one we woke up at the ass motherfucking crack of dawn because we're on obviously la time but i thought i was gonna sleep till noon given the day i had yesterday also we went to bed at 9 30 we went to bed at 9 30 and i and i was beautiful i was deeply unwell let me let me just without being too graphic tell everyone what my day was like i i do want you to be graphic i want you to

know that when she was telling us a story i go can you include as many details oh my god i am manon you are oh i wanted all the details okay go ahead and jackie doesn't really like on the podcast when i talk about like poop and stuff so i'm feeling like she's not here she's not here to tell us no shannon listen up jackie so we flew into la yesterday and when we landed in la we drove to I'm feeling like she's not here. She's not here to tell us no, Shannon. Listen up, Jackie. So we flew into LA yesterday. And when we landed in LA, we drove to Palm Springs. About a two-hour drive. And when I woke up on Thursday morning, you know, I had a little tickle in my throat.

I wasn't feeling 100%. Now, in retrospect, it really wasn't that big of a deal. But maybe some tea. Maybe some tea and like just drink water. You know, maybe a vitamin C or whatever. But in the moment, I was like was like shit i'm getting sick so i called in a z-pack when we landed in palm springs i picked up the z-pack i took the first two doses right when we got in the car and i went on my merry way we did errands we went to the grocery store we picked up liquor we picked up our festival tickets and while we were picking up our festival tickets we were driving to the like location where

you pick up the tickets and you know something hit me i also need you to explain when you pick up the tickets so it's obviously 102 degrees it's a real number of the temperature that it is outside when you pick up the tickets you do have to like walk a good ways obviously if you're feeling bright and dandy it's not that big of a deal it's just like hot as fuck and then you're walking and like standing in the sun to like wait in line to get your ticket so it's a really it's a low-key miserable experience. So just know that and then couple it with this next part. With what I was dealing with.

So as we're pulling up, I'm like, I literally say to Shannon, we had a plastic bag. I'm like, please pass me that plastic bag. I feel like I'm going to vomit in the back of this car. And I was like, oh, maybe I'm in the back of the car. I should sit in the front next time. Maybe I'm getting car sick. And then it just proceeded to go so downhill from there. And I really won't, I will spare you all the details.

But what I learned was that you are not supposed to take a Z-Pak on an empty stomach. I did not know that. And I certainly didn't know I was not supposed to take two doses. Because the first dose, you do have to take two pills. Right. So it's the heaviest dose. It's 500 milligrams. Yeah.

It was, let me just say this, a long drive home. We had a 20-minute drive from the festival pickup location back to our rental house. And I will say that whole car ride was probably one of the lowest moments of my life. Am I allowed to say that you were fighting for your life in the porta potty? I was fighting for my life in the porta potty. I was fighting for my life in the car. I was fighting for my life when I finally got home. Like it was a long afternoon.

At one point I did try to offer like a molecule of comfort and i was like it's okay claude just breathe like we're so close and she immediately goes we're not we're seven minutes away i'm watching the maps and i was like don't lie to me i was sitting in the fucking front seat i saw the gps like it literally we were eight minutes away i'll never forget our time to arrive was 341 and it was three fucking 33 the time would not move and it was one thing like if i was gonna throw up i don't care i'll fucking throw up on the side of the road it was the other end you guys it wasn't notovirus to point out because it wasn't even close to what i experienced when i had the notovirus but it was

it was tough for everyone involved we all just it was hard for me to like know that shannon was seeing me like this because shut up because i like i think the world of you shannon and i want you to like i want you to think I'm like fabulous and fabulous girls just don't crap their pants remember we were in the kitchen and you were like I just really appreciate you being so sweet and comforting Margaret was like what about me no the thing is everyone was so nice and like Shannon was so helpful she as I was like literally on the verge of crapping my pants she was on the phone with this IV company she was like we'll get you an IV tonight when you're all you know depleted we'll replenish you

and I was just so grateful because I was like so focused on myself and then afterwards I was like we'll get you an IV tonight when you're all you know depleted we'll replenish you and I was just so grateful because I was like so focused on myself and then afterwards I was like was I being okay in the car no you're being so fine you're about to shit your pants it was humiliating guys it was really humiliating and so I we went all of that to say we went to bed at literally 9 30 it had been a long day it'd been a long day and it was honestly you know what we all wanted the IVs anyways we all benefited from you almost shit in your pants. So don't feel bad. And we had some lovely, lovely nurses. One of them was an emergency medic. And he was like, you took 500 milligrams of azithromycin.

He was literally shook. He was. He was like, girl, are you okay? Yeah. He was like, you good? And I was like, no, sir. I'm not good. I haven't been good for a while.

I'm so glad you're here. So glad you're here. So we're replenished. Stomach is not 100%. I'd be lying if I said it was, but I'm not going to let it get in the way because stage coach is the best weekend of the year. We got Luke Bryan. We got Chris Stapleton. We've got Kane Brown. We've got old dominion. We've got so many good performances. I'm so excited. We have such cute outfits. We're going to make so many tick tocks. So the trip was, I was not going to lie last night. I was really thinking, I'm like, you know what?

If I pulled all my savings, I could get myself a jet and just get the fuck out trip was, I was not going to lie. Last night I was really thinking, I'm like, you know what? If I pulled all my savings, I could get myself a jet and just get the fuck out of here. I was like, I can't do this all weekend. I knew you were so serious. That's another reason selfishly that we were trying to make sure you're okay

because I was like, Claude can't leave. Turd can't go. I was going to leave. I know you were. Margo said you would. I was going to leave because if you knew how low

I was feeling, Shanon, you would have threw me on the plane myself. I'm the same as you. I would rather need to throw up than shit. Duh. Even though I hate throwing up.

But the thing with throwing up is, like, you can really do it anywhere. In a garbage can. Well, the thing about it is it just happens really quickly and then it's done. The other one is just, it's more of a process, I feel like. Yeah. Anyways. So, Jackie, if you're listening to this, I truly apologize for going there. But I did what I had to do and I'm better.

That's all that matters. Yeah. So, if you guys are not following me and Shannon on Instagram, like, we're listening to this, I truly apologize for going there. But I did what I had to do and I'm better. That's all that matters. Yeah. So if you guys are not following me and Shannon on Instagram, like we're going to be posting and TikTok, of course. What are you doing with your life? What are you doing with life? We're going to be making such fire content. We look like fucking rats right now because it's 830 in the morning and we've been up

since 530. Actually, let me take that back. Speak for yourself. I look like a rat. I am wearing. Okay, let me just let me paint a picture for you guys. Last night'm not doing well you know i'm i'm in the post sickness era you know post coital and i text shannon because we're all like going to bed i'm like you want to come and watch tv with me in my room she's like yeah so i come here i'm wearing uh you know some nice pajamas

they're from tommy john a toast sponsor they're blue um long-sleeved and and joggers they're they're not like the sexiest things ever but like i'm literally in a house with shannon margot emily and kyle like who the fuck am i trying to impress there shannon rolls in here and i'm like oh my god i think shannon is trying to fuck she's wearing this like silk negligee that is a matching robe and it's very like low cut and I just um I'm honestly confused if I'm being completely honest listen I'm in a long-distance relationship sometimes a girl just gets 100% I understand um so I was just having this conversation with Claude outside as she was low-key roasting me for my uh pajama choices because then we went outside and Emily's like wearing literally like sweatpants and a white t-shirt. And she's like, what are you wearing, Shannon? I'm like, yeah,

what are you wearing? So I've always dressed like this. Like even when I was in high school and college, my friends would be like, why the fuck are you wearing that? And I just genuinely like wearing their little slips, like little silk slips from wherever, you know, like, yeah, probably Victoria's Secret and other places like that. Right. And then it's like a little sheer robe that I put over it because I didn't want to be a little whore and walk around the house in a, you know, silk little necklacet. So anyways, I put a robe over it

and yes, it does look like I'm trying to impress someone with my sleep attire, but I'm really not. I just genuinely enjoy sleeping in this and I know it's giving pick-me energy. It is. But I was telling Claude

that I think people that make fun of other people's outfits to go to sleep in, they're the pick-me girls. Shannon was trying to like deflect the pick me energy from her to me. Should I gaslight you? It's not going to fucking happen, Shannon. So Shannon is going to join me for the past five today, which is so exciting because I heard you have a very hot take on Sophia Richie's wedding coming for everyone. Yeah, sorry. In advance. But before we do that, let's catch up with Shannon. It's been a while since you've been on the toast because you're

literally never in New York because you have a new boyfriend and it's not me. It's James. And he lives in London. And you're always in London. You guys are always doing fabulous things without me. And I just want to know why. Manon needs to invite you next time. Manon needs to invite me.

You're welcome to come. Listen, we're about to have some QT together. Some quality time here. Some quality time in Nashville for T-Swift. Yes. Like we're just going to have a lot of time together. But I agree. I need to get back to New York.

I miss New York. Although I will say London is a lot like New York I'm not gonna lie so I feel like it's there but you're not there so it's not the same when I was asking people on my social media for questions for you every single person just wants to know if you're moving to London like what's the plan your boyfriend lives in London you guys are so in love it's been almost a year now right yeah almost a year which is crazy because I came on the toast when we had just met. We had met like two weeks prior. You and James met like around this time that like you and I met. Like a few, you and I met a little bit earlier.

Oh my God, I know that's so true. We just started getting close. Yeah, we 100% started hanging out like a month before I met James. Yeah. That's really, wow. All the good things came into my life at once. So true. Wow, that's actually really sweet.

The universe is just looking out. Okay. So basically everyone asked that question, which I don't know. I guess it makes sense because all the people that are asking me live in America and they always see me in London. So they're like, are you moving there? But like, what's the plan? So he's moving to America.

Okay. So there's like, you're not going. He's in the middle of his visa process. I would eventually move to London. I have no problem with that. Like I love London. I really do. It's very much like New York. So in the sense that like, there's not a lot of space, it's pretty like it's bustling

city metropolis. Yeah. Which is really fun. And I love that James has lived in London his entire life, born and raised. So he just, he's not from like a town outside of London, England. He's like from London. And so anyways, I think he quite likes the idea of an adventure in America. And I'm building a house. So I'm fucking staying put, Shadi. I can't believe you're building a house. You're such a grown up. Wow. It's crazy.

That was also a bunch of questions we got for you. You've been sharing like your house building process on social media, which is just like making me green with NBA, you know? And you've also been sharing how like you've been in like your saving money era because you obviously had to put down money on a house. It's so expensive. You're building from scratch, right? Yeah. It's just really crazy because like I'm not a responsible person with money. I never have been. I'm still like on the cusp, you could say,

like I'm every day fighting with myself in the mirror being like, you're such a dumb bitch. Stop doing that. Right. Right. Because I like, you know, don't need to be spending crazy amounts of money on stupid things like a Prada bolo tie, but it's just so cute. Did you get it? I've already had it. I got it two Christmases ago. It's where actually affectionately my sister's wife told me, and I quote, you're really running out of shit to buy yourself. Let me ask you a question. What are your thoughts on like wearing fakes? Cause like a Prada bolo tie, you'll probably only wear at stagecoach. Like, I don't know. I feel like in a situation like that, get the fake one. I live live in Nashville so I've actually worn it a bit but I will say I I understand fakes for like novelty items like that yeah like there's like anything that's like um like Louis Vuitton came out with that plastic

thingy where it was like see-through plastic whatever I'm like okay like it's literally plastic I know what you're talking about like the see-through duffels yeah I don't know I get it in some cases but I also I guess I've just I wore fakes all the time whenever I was in like my early 20s I actually should have saved the $300 I was spending on a fake and just like saved up for a real one but I really try not to wear fakes because one they just break and there's nothing more embarrassing I've been in an airport when I was 21 I'll never forget I was in an airport I call my mom like why did I call my mom like bitch go and buy a new bag like I was like what do I do she was like a bitch go buy a new bag literally but I um I was carrying a Louis Duffel

and it split down the middle I'm talking it was literally it was fake yes of course and it split down the middle all my stuff came out and then I ran as quickly as I could I like was like wrapping it up and ran to the whatever store like gift shop bought a bag and then I asked the lady to throw away the ripped Louis Duffel and she looked at me like I was out of my mind she She's like, no, and I had to look at her and be like, it's fake, bye, I gotta go. Oh, that's humiliating. It was, it was, it really, it really triggered me, so, like, I don't really buy fakes that often. No, and then I feel like once you buy a fake, it kind of can create doubt in, like, other people's minds. About your other shit. Yeah, it's like, well, if that's fake, everything is. 100%. But I did, I don't, I actually don't currently own any fakes,

but, um, there was this Prada beach bag. Oh, I was telling you about this. So James' mother actually and I had this conversation and I had that Prada beach bag and you messaged me being like, should I get this? I want it so bad. I want it so bad, but it's like so pricey for like a fucking beach bag. I'll tell you what this beach bag is.

It's a fucking beach bag. It literally is a beach bag that says Prada on it and I bought it. It was, transparently, it was $1,200. And I wish I hadn't done that because in that instance, I only use it when I go to the beach. It's thrusted into the sand. And I wish I would have gotten a fake. And his mom and I were having this conversation because his mom is like very bougie, very like, like very just chic, you know, posh Londoner. And she was talking about fake bags and she's like, yeah, like her and her friends have these conversations. And she's you know I don't really get fakes but like something I would never get is like that Prada beach bag and I was like oh me either no like I really want that bag

but honestly it's so pricey and I couldn't wrap my head around it and that was the first time in my life I'm like you know what fake fake get the fake honestly I kind of want to you fraudulent turn if you guys see me walking around with a Prada beach bag, just like, no. It's not real. It's fake. Unless you spar in mind that it's fucking real. Oh, that's true. Unless I'm borrowing Shannon's.

So Shannon is going to join me for the past five. I'm excited. We actually have a lot of good stories. And it's our final episode of the week. Thanks for sticking with us this week, you guys. Jackie is back on Monday. She'll be in studio with me. And I appreciate, you know, all the support for all

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whispers about what's going on between courtney and kim they're like people think courtney and kim aren't speaking to one another really and they haven't been for a while and this whole trailer debacle with the wedding kind of adds fuel to that fire yeah so i meant it might be overhyped because sometimes you get these trailers people did you see the new trailer i'm like yeah it looked the same as they all did this one looks like you're right like it has some serious substance some serious tea so kim is like crying in the trailer a bunch a lot of people think she's crying over pete i don't think she's crying over pete i do not think that i think she's crying over kanye it must be that i forget about that time because it was like kind of a long time ago and so much has happened since then but when he was just like acting a fool and she's like in this tough position it's like the father of her kids and

she obviously would never want to speak ill of him but like he was making it so hard i totally forgot about that time and i like there's nothing I respect more than a mom who knows that her, the father of her children is doing wrong things, but is doing the right thing by not, like, really trying to make that decision for her kids. Yep. And really, just like she said, I think in the trailer, she says, I stay silent so that I do all this for my kids. No, I have so much respect for it.

And I've never once held it against her, anything Kanye did. Because I think we all know how Kanye is and we know like their relationship and we know how like much of a invested and protective mother she is. So that never once bothered me. She's also never jumped to his defense

in a way that made me be like, shut up. Like, why are you defending him right now? She's never done that. No, she just, honestly, I think the best thing she can do is stay silent. Yeah.

So this trailer actually does look very good. For me, I am, like, gooped and gagged over this Kourtney Kim thing. Like, that's what I need to, I need more information. I rarely say this, but when I say I needed, it was like this with the VPR drama. Like, I needed to know more about the Tom and Rachel saga. Yeah. This is something, I was in the car. I was literally in the car, and I was like, so, Margo, you had gone in to get your Z-Pack. That tried to kill me. R. saga. Yeah. This is something I was in the car. I was literally in the car and I was like, so Margo,

you had gone in to get your, um, ZZ pack. That tried to kill me. RIP. Um, and I was like, okay,

so Margo question is, are they saying that Kim basically did her, which I'm going to be honest, one of my favorite, most recent things that Kim Kardashian has done was the Dolce and Gabbana. It was so, it was iconic. I thought she looked fabulous.

I love the way her hair was. I loved the outfits. I loved her eating spaghetti. I loved everything about fabulous. I loved the way her hair was. I loved the outfits. I loved her eating spaghetti. I loved everything about it. And I'm like, wait, oh my gosh, I didn't put two and two together. That was because Kourtney's whole entire wedding was Dolce & Gabbana in Italy. I know. And I have to see how it plays out, but I am more inclined here to take Kim's side.

Really? Yeah, because first of all, like the girls having any sort of relationship with any fashion house is all kim's doing like fair they were like sears they were low budget she couldn't get arrested then she got invited to the met gala as kanye's plus one and she worked her whole life she works tirelessly to be accepted by like upper echelon fashion people true and they're in this place now we're like yeah she's the face of balenciaga she's a campaign with dolce they all go to the met gala they are that because of kim so you know what i don't know if courtney's mad that like at i think maybe at her wedding kim started the trial to like schmooze with the

dolce people i don't know what the timeline of events is but like i don't know am i crazy to say like i don't think it's that bad well i'm gonna be very kindle and kylie in the trailer right now and say i see both sides yeah that was so kind of like that was so and they were like i see both sides i'm like you too pick a fucking side um i fucking hate people who don't but if you what do you stand for yeah nothing if you stand for what never mind i don't know if you don't stand for anything you stand for nothing no you'll fall for if you don't stand for anything you'll fall for wait if you stand for nothing you'll fall for it if you don't stand for anything you'll fall for it wait if you stand for nothing you'll fall for everything nailed it that was it crushed it um okay so everyone in their car listening to this is like these morons um so i'm gonna say though i'm not gonna take both

sides i'm going to say i actually kind of see courtney's side a little bit because like couldn't kim have just made those connections and then been like hey after her wedding like we're gonna do this because i'm pretty sure the timeline was kind of crazy but the dolce thing with kim did come out way after the wedding oh really yeah it was well then i need to see this play out i need to see the timeline you're right the timeline is everything and sister dynamics can be like touching i died though when kim was like i don't know why she's upset i made sure that they didn't put me in anything that she wore in her wedding i was like like, Kim, at the least. It's not fair to judge the whole situation based off the trailer,

but this actually does look really good, and I haven't been excited just because they've been very low-key recently. But there is a lot that they need to address. There's kind of been a crazy year for them. And the one thing that I didn't see in the trailer that I was really hoping to hear from in the trailer was the balenciaga saga balenciaga the balenciaga i don't know how they can avoid that but it seems like they might bring it up maybe they just didn't want to put it in the trailer but surely they bring it up you think i don't know maybe they're just like we're not

going to touch this they don't want to give it like give balenciaga more attention i don't know i don't know either but kim has been like wearing full Balenciaga looks really yeah like very haven't seen that yeah I know it's like very understated but she has been wearing it I think she still has some sort of relationship with the brand I myself have to shelf multiple sweaters well you know I was actually in a store recently that sells like a bunch of designer items and we were like walking through the different sections and we walked through the Balenciaga section and I was like by the way has anyone been shopping here and they're like yeah actually I every time I go by a Balenciaga store it's always empty and I feel like I can't imagine the employees must be closer than ever they're always in a little circle and they're

always no one to talk to they're always chatting it up and I thought that I bet this the only like good that might have come out of this has been that they've really created a family great friendship great friendships within the Balenciaga employee community I don't know because they're only all just talking to fucking each other no it's true every time I drive past the store I also like look and I have not seen a single shopper in there in months I have I don't know when I'll wear if I'll ever wear it again but I just like still look at it like I still like they're like so I haven't put any on when the trailer first opened and it like turned my stuff yeah I know everyone's like burn it and I was like well it's clothing you paid for it I haven't put any on. When the trailer first opened, I didn't like burn my stuff. Yeah, I know. Everyone's like, burn it.

And I was like, well, it's clothing. You paid for it. I just wouldn't burn anything that I owned. I would just like either give it away or like do something. Let it sit there. I would either just like let it sit there in a box. I just don't think I would ever take fire to like my things. No, that's insane.

The thing about the trailer is everyone's like, oh my God, she's talking about Pete. Because they opened the trailer with like the conversation. And the way I don't care, not only was that so long ago, Pete's had two girlfriends since then. I forget that that was even a thing and it was so long ago.

I'm like, oh, are they really trying to give us this bullshit? But then there was so much more tea in the trailer. But I was like, this is it, really? It was like a blip on her radar. We're like, oh, it was a fun little moment. I don't think anything happened with their ending either other than he had to get some tattoos covered up and they she was probably just like it's not you it's me I gotta go right I'll be like okay bye him right right right right it

was just meh yeah I just I I'm not I don't know what they're gonna tell us that we're gonna be shocked by when it comes to their split I agree no there's a lot of interesting stuff about Kanye there's a lot of interesting stuff about whatever's going on with the wedding and the dolce and oh and kylie said that thing about that she was like we really need to um be conscious about our families um like the decisions we make that like impact the beauty standard we set yeah and she was like i don't want my daughters to do the same things that i did but i'm like curious to see if she's gonna be like i don't want my daughters to like look in the mirror and like think that they look big one day i want to tell them they're beautiful I'm gonna be like Kylie talk about like what you did to your face your butt your boobs you're like what are you talking about it's like unless they

go full in to have this conversation and I don't I do not and I think I'm unique in this like I do not hold them responsible for any decisions they make about their bodies and how it impacts culture like I think that's like an unfair burden to put on someone and I have this conversation all the time and I know a lot of people don't agree with me and that's fine but so I don't need them to have this conversation I think a lot of people do they're like finally they're talking about it I don't need them to have this conversation but if they're going to have it they have to go balls to the wall like 100% transparent and I don't think they don't owe us that either so I don't think they are okay so I'm actually not just saying this to agree with

you for real for real I genuinely I think that like I agree in the sense that everyone's doing the same shit to their body that they are. And I don't know if everyone is doing it because they want to look like a Kardashian. Right. I think actually, if you like went down to Miami, you would see that everyone was doing this before the Kardashians. Yeah. They're going to do it after the Kardashians.

The Kardashians are just seen on a much larger scale and a much larger stage. So like, I agree in the sense that it's not the Kardashian effect. It's like the genre and era we the Kardashian effect. It's like the genre and era we're in effect. But here's the thing. Even if it is the Kardashian effect, I don't really feel like that's their problem because they are, you know, people with bodily autonomy. They should be able to make whatever decisions. They want to gain weight. They want to lose weight. They want to get plastic surgery. They want to do something. Like they should be able to make decisions about their bodies without having to worry about how it affects the culture like yeah that's a huge

weight to carry that is a burden i just i agree with you i hope they're not like yeah like everyone's beautiful from the inside out i'm like if you're gonna fucking talk about it talk about it don't do it just to have a like moment for kylie's segment on the show like i want it to be like good it has to be like legit authentic conversation and and i don't think it will be so i think they should just ignore it honestly yeah just cut kylie scenes no she's always so sweet kylie really is like so interesting and so fabulous she just gives nothing to the show i think she does it to protect her peace which i totally understand but like come on she wants to be like like out of the i don't even think she wants to be out

of the spotlight but i think she just all every time i see her she's like bringing clothes over to chloe or she's like putting her hand on someone's back being like it's gonna be okay yeah she's like a sounding board yeah she's really sweet and wonderful but i'm like i think like you know i want more from her i'm always she but kylie always leaves us wanting more and maybe that's why i feel like of all of them she's really not like super overexposed she's low-key like very private yeah sometimes it feels like with the main girls like they it's like a little bit too much and and it's like a lot of exposure but i don't feel that way with kylie no i wish she would do more i wish she would come back i wish you would i wish you would um okay our

next story uh we're talking about sophia grange excuse me's's honeymoon oh where's she going well so she has been posting a bunch of stuff with Elliot the newlyweds enjoyed a romantic bike ride in the first glimpse of their vacation since tying the knot in the south of France last weekend the 24 year old bride did not reveal the location of her and Elliot's getaway she posted several Instagram story photos of their tropical trip on Thursday

people haven't figured it out no and you know what I was looking and I'm so curious it looks like maldives fiji it's very tropical it's white sand oh my god i would think for sure the internet sleuths of the world would be like that palm tree on the left with the branch we saw that in 2007 no but like these upper echelon like actual like 0.01 they go to like these private islands like this is not a hotel any of us have ever been to right i my first thought was like where the fuck is this maybe like lionel's friend has an island you know i could see that i mean i don't know where it is but i just wanted to use this

story as one she looks great so happy oh and you were showing me um a tiktok that pointed out it looked like sofia richie got her breast implants removed oh yeah i saw that it looked like Sophia Richie got her breast implants removed. Oh, yeah. I saw that. It was like when she was a Scott. People were comparing her pictures in a bikini with her husband now to old pictures of her in bikinis where she clearly had implants. And it does. It looks like she got them taken out. She looks much more natural and small.

And I think she looks great. I think they just like suit her body better. Yeah. I thought that was interesting. She was a teeny tiny little tot that like didn't need like some knockers well this honeymoon story is like not that interesting but I did want to use it as a sounding board because I know Shannon has like a diatribe to deliver about Sophia Richie's wedding so oh my god I don't I just like genuinely in the car I was like this might be a hot take but like I just wasn't that blown away I think like the internet like grasps

onto something and then everyone's like oh my god are you watching are you watching it and I was like I do think that like some of her like Chanel looks were like really like classy and stunning but I just wasn't I didn't understand why we were so so so so so engulfed with it like I know everyone's like so I'm like seeing TikToks it's like um old money is back old money I'm like well not all of us fucking have old money and a lot of us have spent our new money on a Prada bolo ties and I don't want old money to come back in style literally no because I am like really trashy and obvious but I do think that um it was just a bit overhyped in the sense that like I'm not discrediting her love she looked really happy she looked like I really do love the era of

like the comparison with her and with her and scott like i'm so much happier for her in this era of her life more like mature and like it's more pulled back it seems more her it seems more genuine even when she was a scott she almost looked so out of place in her little like sparkly pink jumpsuits i'm like you don't you aren't meant to be here no actually do you remember she used to date justin bieber yeah of course so she is giving hayley bieber in the sense that like she's always been that esk so like I'm really happy for her. I just didn't think the wedding was that fucking cool. The only thing I thought was cool is when Good Charlotte played.

Lifestyles of the rich and the famous. And there was all these fucking famous rich people dancing to it. I was like iconic. So good. But let me explain I think why there's like this obsession. And I think it's like it was the culmination of like yeah it was a beautiful wedding. It was south of France. It was very expensive all that yada yada but it was the

culmination of that plus like the elements of her being a nepo baby but in a really like not annoying way like ronald richie is so legendary and then there's nicole richie and then there's nicole richie's husband love and then there's nicole richie's husband's brother and nicole richie's husband's brother's wife cameron diaz. And then Paris was there and it was like Paris and Nicole. There were so many elements of pop culture. That's really true. Like a melting pot. And then Sophia just like came out of the woodwork as this like it girl.

Like this, she was so, everything she did was like so pulled back and so classy and tasteful and not in like an overt money kind of way, which it could have been because he, her husband is richer than her really his her husband's dad is the chairman of universal music group which is like he's the chairman umg these and his oh and his mom and dad are a lady and a what's the title that goes with a lady you would know you're british now i don't know an earl no it's sir sir and lady okay like they're they're that aristocrat like okay there there's a lot in this wedding once you start to unpack that i think is where the fascination okay because the wedding itself was absolutely gorgeous but it

wasn't unlike a wedding we've ever seen from a celebrity in terms of like the flowers and shit yeah just like the people and all the different details about everyone there and what we knew about them it came it ended up being extremely fascinating. Okay. You know what? I'm a steak. I'll flip. You'll flip?

I'll flip. You can stand your ground if you want to. I just, I guess I kept getting targeted for all the outfit things and everyone was like, I'm gagging. I'm dead. And I was like, okay, it's a lace dress. Like, it's okay. It's beautiful.

But like, I just don't get the hype with like the Chanel. Like, I'm like okay but now that you've explained it in that way i understand why people wanted the ins and outs and i wish i had dug deeper i would have been maybe more fascinated but wait i also do agree with you like the way people just like get gagged over things on social media they're like not that gag worthy but they do it just to like it's like we were talking about this this morning like when beauty gurus like on social media try foundations and they put like a dot of the foundation on their face, they're like, oh my God. And they stop. I'm literally going to die.

Like the coverage. Like there's just like this sensationalized like trend on social media where it's like we have to be so fucking breathless. Yeah. Over everything. It's like calm the fuck down. It's fucking brown look at eyeliner. Like the girl like does a little wing and she's like, are you seeing this?

She's like, are you seeing this? She's like, are you seeing this? Guys, look. Okay. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm like, you don't have to be sorry, sis. It's fucking brown liquid eyeliner. It's okay.

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According to pictures. First time she's invited or first time she's decided to go? That's a good question. So Paris Hilton is finally headed to the Met Gala. The heiress, DJ, and author will attend Fashion's Biggest Night for the first time ever this year, Page Six Style has confirmed. TMZ was the first to report that Paris would be attending. Sources told the outlet that Hilton scored a coveted invite from Vogue and the designer of her look for the event details, which are still under wraps.

We don't know which designer she's going to be going with, but she was famously friends with the late designer, Karl Lagerfeld, whose life and work are the theme of this year's Met Gala Institute.

Oh, so I wonder why that's why she was invited. Because actually, the more you were saying it, the more I was like, actually, Paris Hilton doesn't give me Met Gala. And they are pretty picky with their list.

Like, they are, but still. They're weird. But then, you know what they're also weird about? They'll do, like, who's ever super, super popular in the moment. Like, I actually, of course, I don't think, like, this would really happen this year. But, like, they're the kind of people that would invite Alex Earle to the Met Gala because she's having such a moment. Oh, my God.

If Alex Earle goes to the Met Gala, I will die of joy that i would be so happy she would just be so thrilled she'd just be there smiling she'd be so grateful she'd she'd post a tiktok being like how am i here and we'd be like you're fucking alex earl i don't even feel like that's that crazy i feel like she could go she might see and charlie went that's what i'm saying so like i think no but i'm sorry the fact that like dixie and charlie went and like james charles has went and like nikki tutorials so many influencers. When like Paris was like really like at the, she was like the spearhead or a pioneer of like influencer movement in terms of like not being famous for like a particular trade

and skill. She really like was a huge part. I mean, if you saw the American meme documentary, like she really is a pioneer of like the influencer age. And for her to have not ever been is actually crazy when they've now opened they've since opened up to influence right i think maybe they were just waiting for her resurgence because she has had such a resurgence lately yeah kyle's actually his background of his screen as long as i've known him on his phone has been that picture

iconically of paris hilton that's wearing a shirt that says stop being poor i love that that photo okay but you know that photo's photoshopped no it doesn't say that t-shirt doesn't say stop being poor in real life what does it say something dumb like oh my god yeah i have to tell kyle um but what's also interesting is that nikki hilton has attended the met ball just one time in 2001 as a guest of someone i guess nikki hilton is like very fashion girly she's not so much like mainstream as paris yeah she's very like she goes to like fashion shows and she's like friends with the Valentino family oh I did know that but I find that interesting huh well I'm excited to see her look I really can't wait I think it's gonna be slipping I think it's gonna be slipping too I'm just like I'm I'm gooped and gagged to know that she's never been invited or she's never attended my stomach's making the craziest noise and I keep

wondering if the mic is picking it up so if you guys have been hearing some rumbling and grumbling it's actually not claude turdy mcglue it's me by the way i thought you were gonna say like you might have caught what i had but what i had wasn't contagious no no um okay our fourth story is a little chance the rapper news did you see that video going viral of chance the rapper like getting torqued on ding yes but i have i i where was he at again uh some i think some sort of an island jamaica okay so culturally that's how they dance i know it is like not like i think that is totally what they do normally and it's not anything i mean i know you're gonna look and like what do you mean she's from like american culture but i think that's truly like it's like

if you had gone and seen someone doing salsa with someone that wasn't their husband or wife and they'd be like looking really sexual and sexy. But like that's how salsa is intended to be danced. Jamaicans just genuinely, that is how they dance. I completely agree. I think it's really common at a lot of those carnival festivals that they do on the islands and they do in Brazil. But his wife has now posted a cryptic quote after that dance went viral. Well, they're super super super religious so that's are they are you joking chance the rapper are you joking i didn't know

that i'm not oh my god he all like like immensely so immensely i want to say this could be so inaccurate i want to say he doesn't cuss in his raps i could be so wrong he but he and his wife are very very very christian very person is that could be such a lie i could be lying wrong. But he and his wife are very, very, very Christian. Does he curse in his rap? That could be such a lie. I could be lying. But like he's, they're very religious. So about a week after he went viral for dancing inappropriately with another woman, his wife, Kristen Corley, shared a cryptic message on her Instagram.

She posted an excerpt from Maya Angelou's essay called Home, which discusses how most people never mature. It says this, Most people don't grow up. It's too damn difficult. What happens is most people get older. That's the of it oh they honor their credit cards they find parking spaces they have the nerve to have children but they don't grow up oh not really they just get older oh wow so maya angelou then continues but to grow up costs the earth the earth it means you take

responsibility for the time you take up to the space the earth it means you take responsibility for the time you take up to the space you occupy it's serious business so his wife highlighted that excerpt what a quote by the way maya angelou like what a quote what a quote and she captioned the post i hope one day we all choose to grow up oh no what do you think maybe she's talking about all of us i don't know that's a really good but no i just googled it just to make sure i wasn't wrong not about the cussing but chance the rapper considers himself a christian rapper he doesn't even he that that's why him and justin bieber were like all up and up and yeah they were all about song me too because that's yeah yeah chance the rapper and justin bieber you're right you're right exactly okay anyways oh so there's like this is a layered story yeah but i will say i mean to be fair even you know

culture aside he was getting his his bing bong absolutely rammed against by i want to say culture or not there was some penis and vagina like yeah that was that's the but he he wasn't being recorded secretly he's like looking at the camera like he knows fair so i don't know but this i think it's very creepy vibes he it's a cryptic quote yeah wow okay i'm very i'm interested to see how that plays out i hope they you know stick it out i know they're also very private i think a lot of people didn't even know he had a wife and two kids oh really i feel like that's also not true because he openly talks about how much he loves his family because he's like super christian rapper i mean i didn't know that and i really like chance the rapper and i honestly i saw the video and i didn't think it was that crazy like i get it i know that that's

like a thing a tradition that's done culturally yeah i just didn't it looked more like a joke like like he was like oh my goodness what's happening it looked like one of those things he wasn't like oh yeah i'm loving this oh yeah he wasn't giving that vibe yeah no he wasn't like giving and the fact that it wasn't like filmed sneaky from the side like everyone i don't know i choose to see the good in people me too um is your fifth story gonna be about glenn powell no but can we talk about it please i mean we're talking about it all week what's your oh oh okay never mind no i want to hear what you have to say no i just i just know um even though i believe someone from sydney's team like yesterday spoke to outlets being like she's still very much engaged to this guy yeah i think that they're doing a classic actually did matthew mcconaughey and um kate

hudson ever actually did in real life i think they might have but what you're referring to we like to call the um oh hold on me and jackie were just talking about this guys help me you guys are probably screaming at your phones wait i need silence for one second who just did this and like we all went oh lady gaga and yeah whatever i just think like they're doing that but we don't if you guys have already talked about we don't talk about the only thing i want to talk about is like holy shit i did not realize how hot he is i am i am absolutely engulfed in whatever like if he becomes the next like rom-com man of our generation i'm here for it i find him to be absolutely stellar looking i completely agree shenan well it's really hot and i actually think this whole scandal which is what i've been saying all week is that it's very good for him yeah

people don't think about him a lot like no kind of like underrated top gun um that zoe deutch netflix rom-com that people like what's it called i don't know the setup never set it up or something never seen it. He has a following, but this is definitely going to catapult him to the next level. And honestly, what would really catapult him to the next level

is if they really just started dating. Yeah, that and if the movie's good. I would love to see the movie. Yes. Okay, but no. Our fifth and final story is James Corden. Last night was his farewell to The Late Late Show. Oh, really?

Yeah, I saw a bunch of clips of the sketches they did that seemed really cute and funny harry styles was there they actually did this sketch that i thought was hilarious with all the other late night co-hosts seth meyers jimmy kimmel jimmy fallon steven colbert and james corden oh wow it was hysterical and i will say like james corden has had a rough year i feel like he became like it's like anne hathaway syndrome like you get so popular that you automatically become hated for like seemingly nothing um but i don't know i actually do like him well we know that my affinity in life is balthazar new york so oh yeah what were your thoughts on his him allegedly being the most hated man in balthazar restaurant i mean i just

like could care fucking less like i was just like okay i'm sure he was a dick. Like, I don't know. Like, so you don't have to, but it was just funny. The guy, what's the same Kevin. Yeah. He's like, you are no longer ever allowed at my restaurant. And then he made it lame. Cause he kept going back and forth being like, nevermind. He called me. Nevermind. He's not allowed. Nevermind this. I'm like, okay. He was acting like a fool. Like it was so crazy. I didn't, I just thought it was like funny about the things he said, James Corden complained about, but I just like, I don't really, I'm so nice to everyone in restaurants I can't imagine I'll ever get to a place in my life where I won't be so rude yeah but like I mean I don't know I just don't think anyone can ever be canceled for being mean to a waiter that's what Jackie and I's take were was so it's just been

like a bad year for him and I feel like he's probably looking forward to like being off the show because he needs to like get out of the headlines for a while when you're like so in the media with really like... What else has happened other than that, though? Every time he gets cast in something, everyone's like, oh my God, no. Really? Cats.

I think he's in Wicked. Everyone's just like, enough. He's just like, he's everywhere all at once. And I think what happens in the culture, it's like this happened with Anne Hathaway. It's like, she wasn't even doing that much media, but she would just get in the media all the time. People get so annoyed with you,

they start to fucking hate you. Yeah. And it's like not fair, because you didn't do anything wrong, but she would just get in the media all the time. People get so annoyed with you, they start to fucking hate you. Yeah. And it's not fair because you didn't do anything wrong, but people can't explain their dislike for you. I feel like that happened with Taylor Swift, too. Yes, of course. It happens to a few people. I feel like it happened to Chrissy Teigen many years ago.

Oh my God, yeah. She was just so overexposed, and it wasn't even her doing, she wasn't doing interviews, but we're like, just shut up. Everyone was, I actually felt that way about Chrissy Teigen. I was like, enough. Enough. But she wasn't doing it. She wasn't coming to my house being like, this about me it was just everyone it was buzzfeed

just writing shit up about her like dumb ass shit everyone and then like e-news was just always posting about her and i was like shut up the funny thing in the sketch last night was like all the co all the hosts got together and they were like well before you leave we have to like split up your ideas and everyone was like okay i want carpool karaoke and then jimmy fell was like no i want carpool karaoke another one was like no i want car want Carpool Karaoke. And then Jimmy Fallon was like, no, I want Carpool Karaoke. And the other one was like, no, I want Carpool Karaoke. And James Corden's like, you guys, I have more than one good idea. And they're like, not really. Not really.

No, but it's true. Carpool. And he's been in the news a lot this week because Carpool Karaoke was a segment they started with Adele. And this week he aired his final Carpool Karaoke, which he ended with Adele. Oh. It was really sweet. Oh, I love that.

I know. I'm just like sad we never got a Taylor Swift Carpool Karaoke. Me too. Damn. Anyone who didn't do Carpool Karaoke, like, will never. Oh, I love that. I know. I'm just like sad. We never got a Taylor Swift carpool karaoke. Me too. Damn. Anyone who didn't do carpool karaoke, like will never. Yeah, that's true. Wow. Everything that Adele does kind of makes me want to cry of like this like deep rooted

like sweetness. Sweetness and love. Yeah. She's really like a nice person. My friend's convinced she's like, um, like an alien or a psychic or something. She's like, she just has so much like passion and power with like people's emotions. Yeah. No, like the chokehold she has everyone under is not normal totally wow manon manon you did good

thank you so much claude for having me those are the past five we've just been staring at a golf course this whole time i know we're not even looking at each other this is like kind of the weirdest way i've ever podcasted we're like laying in bed which is fine i've podcasted in bed a million times but we're not looking at each other we're both looking out the window because the view from my bedroom is really so gorgeous claudia got the master obviously oh yeah i did get the master bedroom but that's because i was sick and i want to say i did not ask for it i was secretly hoping for it because there's enough bedrooms per people so like it was just you know and everyone was like yeah claudia can have it i was like oh really this is the way cookie just crumbled. I did find and book the house.

Listen, you were never knocking at the master, and rightfully so. No, really. And I told her. The primary bedroom, sorry. And I said, anyone can sleep with me. Like, no one wants to sleep with me. I like to sleep with people. I was trying to, how many times have I told you to get in my bed?

You have. For someone who said that I was trying to fuck you in my negligent, you have asked me to get in your bed like three times. Yeah, she woke up and came into my bed this morning. I was like, hey, Shannon, come inside. And then she went to bed with me last night. I'm like, hey, Shannon, you want to watch TV? And then I'm like, hey, Shannon, you want to get in your bed like three times. Yeah, she woke up and came into my bed this morning. I was like, hey, Shannon, come inside. And then she went to bed with me last night. I'm like, hey, Shannon, you want to watch TV? And then I'm like, hey, Shannon, you want to get in my bed and podcast?

Maybe we're both trying to fuck each other. Maybe, yeah. We see each other. We fuck each other. I love that for us. Wow. I cannot wait to make so many TikToks and absolutely gag everyone with our outfits. It's so important to know it's 930 in the morning, and we literally will not be leaving

for the festival for eight hours. We woke up so early. So I'm probably going to have diarrhea again if I'm being honest and maybe take a nap. I too would like

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