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It's Jackson, Claude and every show the fast five things you need to know.
We'll start your day off, swirly.
It's the toast.
I sound amazing.
Welcome back to The Toast and happy Monday.
Hope everybody's having a hard delicious definition kicking off to their week.
Hey, Jax, how you turn?
During Good.
Second week of the new year sitting in Koji's Corner.
Welcome to Koji's Corner.
I think everyone always says, like, you guys should do another podcast.
I like, Clubman and Recap podcast.
Mm-hmm.
Koji's Corner is what the world needs,
and I think it would be nominated for a Golden Globe, just saying.
And that's how Koji sees it.
Yes, I did watch the Golden Globes.
I watched, it's actually amazing what I was able to accomplish this weekend
just as like a regular girl.
I spent so much time with my family.
I spent time outside.
I watched everything on Planet Earth.
It's amazing, like what I was personally able to accomplish.
Like in wake windows, in nap windows,
I should really receive some sort of motherhood and business owner award.
For all the TV that you watch.
Yes. People we meet on vacation, the movie. I watched all three episodes of Traders. I watched The Golden Globes. I would say I made it about 60%. I also watched Shaz of Sunset. I'm refusing to call it the Valley Persian style because that's a bad name and the show already had a name. It's called the Shaz of Sunset, any show ever made. I watched so much. I'm so prepared to be seated here with you today. I watched half of Shaz of Sunset Persian style in the valley doing Persian in the valley. Yeah, Persia Valley style. I liked it in general, but it was really crazy to watch.
watch it like this weekend. Like just very lot. Yes, that's true. They're always talking about the geopolitical
climate of Iran. The show just starts saying like a lot of Persians and the Iranians move to
LA during the revolution. And and it's like they're unreliolizing right now. I actually think
that they will end up covering it next season because one thing about the Shahs like they're not
going to shy away from uncomfortable conversations about geopolitical issues about religion. Like they went
well they tried to. They couldn't go to Iran but they went to Israel actually. And then like
like walked up to the border and they went to Turkey too.
Maybe they'll go.
If I ran becomes free, they will go.
Oh my God, brand trip.
Brand trip.
But I feel like the old Shaz very much went there all the time every day.
Yeah.
I've only watched half of this first season, but I feel like times have changed and
like they're not going to do that as much.
Well, I do feel like the show was ahead of its time, the original show Shaz of Sunset.
Yes, I don't see them going like super deep.
But one thing about like Rezos, like he's going to do what he wants.
He's kind of an amazing reality.
star in the sense like he actually doesn't give a fuck like he will talk about things
that he wants to talk about yeah um the show like did have that valley edit like spice which
like I didn't like like I don't know just like boring valley do you know what I don't know just like
that's like the point I know but the thing about the shaws is like they're not like anyone else
so trying to put them in a show like shaz I'm too I'm too close to it obviously like I was obsessed
with the original show and this new show is good I'm glad we have Mercedes like the OGs
but I don't know them trying to give it like the Lala Ken
edit. I don't know. It's just not working.
Yeah. Well, I've only seen, I'm just getting acquainted.
Oh, and to be clear, I saw one episode. Right.
I'm still meeting everyone, so I'm not like calling it or anything, but I enjoyed what I did watch.
Me too. And I watched Traders, all three episodes.
Same. We will do. But I'm glad that I did because now I'm like, I care.
Yep. I have so many thoughts about the show and the format and this season in particular,
but I know I'm going to like frustrate people with what I have to say about the format.
Well, we're going to do our fifth and final story is an official traitors recap.
So in case you're not caught up, we're going to save it all for that.
Yeah.
Now, can I tell you to watch people we meet on vacation?
Did you read that book?
I did.
I didn't like the book, but I've heard that the movie is very good.
So people feel one of two ways.
I think if you're like really like it's your favorite book ever, then you hate the movie
just because you're too close to it.
And I can't, honestly, I can't take your opinion seriously because I'm judging the
movie as a movie.
I read the book years ago.
Do I remember all the nuances?
No.
I just remember that they take a trip every year and they're obviously in love, but they
they pretend like they're not.
The movie was so stupid.
Of course. I hate when people...
Like, I fight love.
No, not only that. At your big age, like, you're not able to identify a feeling.
Like, you obviously like him.
And you have a straight woman. You have a straight male best friend who you love, you travel with, you do everything with.
Like, you're married. Get married.
Every time, like, your romantic partner or his romantic partner comes on a trip, it ends in disaster.
Because, like, everyone can sense the feelings between the two of you.
Both of your partners hate the other person because you're obviously in love.
I just, I hate that shit.
And you're wasting other people's time.
And you're literally 30 at this point.
You do have to suspend disbelief.
You have to not be a smart person to just read the book and enjoy it.
I thought the book was extremely mid.
I remember being like, oh, this is a book everyone's talking about.
Like, it's fine.
And that it launched Emily Henry.
Like Emily Henry is like a colleague every time she has a book, it's like, who's going
to get the rights?
And it's a bit bestseller.
And I happen to believe she's an industry plant.
Like she writes like very, very mid, like low.
Like low.
But people like mid.
Yeah.
Low IQ individuals.
Yeah.
No, no.
But like, and I read mid low IQ books sometimes because it's comforting to just like,
read something where I don't have to, my brain doesn't have to work hard.
Yeah, but this book sort of launched.
That all sounded very insulting, but like I didn't mean any of it as an insult to any of.
I wasn't, as a low IQ individual, I was not insulting.
We're like the authors who write for them.
They know what, listen, there's a cover for every pot.
There's an audience for every writer.
Not every book needs to be Da Vinci Code.
Barbara Kingsolver.
Not every book can be deep.
Well, that's true.
So having said all of that, I was just watching this movie, like as a movie.
I knew a little bit about the book.
I thought it was adorable.
Like it was super cute.
Have you heard about this thing called Netflix lighting?
No.
So they say now if you watch like a movie from like the early 2000s and a movie now,
like you can tell that they were made in different times because every movie now has this
thing called Netflix lighting.
And I don't like I don't know how to describe it, but I know what they're talking about.
Like all movies look the same now.
They look like TV shows.
Like they just look like they were made on Netflix, you know?
I guess, but also like technology has changed.
Yeah, but it's also more like an aesthetic than like technology.
Like it's still all high quality.
it just looks Netflix.
Okay.
And I thought that this movie
really had Netflix lighting
because I just learned about the phenomenon
and I was really focused on that the whole time.
Do we have Netflix lighting?
No, I would say
we're so different and unique, you know?
Yeah.
Netflix couldn't handle it.
We have sort of like
startup, industrial,
Maverick lighting.
Yeah, very much like boots,
like, you know, bootstrap.
Bootsrap.
Maverick.
Maverick.
Mavric.
I feel the lighting is very maverick.
Yeah, kind of renegate.
Navar.
Yeah.
And both of the actors who were cast,
I feel like when books get turned into movies,
there's so much fan casting.
Like, I want Sabrina Carpenter to play.
And they picked two randoms, two nobodies.
I'd never heard of either of these people in my life.
And they were such good actors.
Like, bring back acting good.
Do you know what I mean?
I feel like with the Golden Globes,
Britney Snow was there.
And it was a reminder to me that the Hunting Wads
was nominated for something,
which is so crazy.
Like, it was a bad show with bad acting that we loved
because it was bad.
And I feel like people who mean on vacation remind me
Like you don't have to act bad
Like you can be good at acting
And you can also like cast new people
Who are good actors, not everyone
I read those two like unknown people
To me I think they were
Like studios like try and get people
With like big social media followings
And it's just like it's so lame
I'm not watching your movie because you told
Like I'll watch a movie
Because I want to see the movie
Cast the right people for the job please
A thousand percent
Like influencers can stay influence
influencers. Big casting news. I don't know if you saw. They have cast Rapunzel live action. People
really thought it was going to be Sabrina Carpenter as punsy. Isn't she being Alice in Wonderland?
Oh, is she? Well, she's so Rapunzel. She's being something. Well, she's not Rapunzel. I believe it was a
no name. I didn't know her. And then Milo Mannheim is Flynn Ryder. Does that mean anything to you?
Milo Mannheim from Dancing with the Stars. From Dancing with the Stars fame. And I was like,
oh, well, he surely must have done something after Dancing with the Stars because he's, you know,
got this role. And when I was really, you know,
reading like the variety article.
It was like Milo Mannheim of Dancing with the Stars fame.
No, I swear.
But he's in Naked Brothers Band.
Is he?
Like, I don't know him besides.
And he's like in a couple movies like Home Again, you know?
He's one of those guys like Nate.
Okay.
You're thinking of Nate and Alex Wolf who are in Home Again and the Naked Brothers Band.
He is Milo Manheim Wolf.
He's their stepbrother.
He's not, but I would like to.
He's one of them.
Is he?
He's of that elk.
I get a lot of DMs asking me like what?
they've forgotten what word I'm like
supposed to be using instead of elk
and I just want to let you guys know
like I use elk but I know the real word is ilk
in case you're like in a serious situation
you need to know the actual word it's ilk I-L-K
So Milo Mannheim's brother is Cameron Mannheim
No but he's in stuff with the wolf brothers
Is he?
For sure
For sure
Like I feel that call
Thank you I think it's home again
Weren't there three guys
But I don't think that Milo Manheim was in home again
What was stopping him?
Probably dancing with the stars.
Milo Manheim movies and TV shows.
Let's go.
Oh no, people say like Milo Manh...
Zombies.
What?
I love zombies.
Yeah, this is like a little Gen Z for me.
I don't know Milo Manheim.
Literally just zombies.
Cool.
At least we're in one thing together.
That's kind of crazy.
No, and zombies is like one, two, three, and four.
It's a...
So that's...
You know them from zombies.
Well, I have seen zombies one and two.
What?
Yeah.
With the kids?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like when I like to watch descendants, like,
I was like, you should watch zombies and it was cute,
but it was no descendants.
Got it, got it, got it.
But it definitely, like, had Riz.
Okay, Riz.
And then he's in a bunch of other stuff
that I'm sure you guys will shout at me
in the comments that he's in,
but nothing that I've seen, you know?
So he's from Dancing with the Stars.
So if you were going to write,
like, he's in Thanksgiving,
just write, you girls look beautiful today.
If you were going to write anything,
just write you girls look beautiful today.
Imagine if we just flooded the comments
with,
You girls look beautiful today.
That would be so sweet.
And it's because I had such a productive, well-balanced weekend.
Watch the Golden Globes, which we are going to talk about, I assume, in the stories.
Kylie was there.
Everyone was kind of there.
Yeah.
It looked like, you know, it looks okay.
Yeah, it looks cool if you're into that sort of thing.
I know.
And I really, like, was not wanting to watch it because I was just like, there's so many things I could be doing with my Sunday.
I'm going to watch this crapola, self-congratiatory.
But then I was like, you know, it is my job, and I'm committed to the craft, and I'm sure it'll come up in tomorrow.
show. So I did watch it. I went to bed about 10 o'clock and Nikki Glazer said, we're halfway
through the show. I said, you're kidding. I just watched, you know, enough. I saw Timothy
when I saw the speech. There were a couple of things I needed to say. I need to make sure
Hannah Eindbender lost, which she did, which was great for, you know, the Jewish people.
Non-insufferable people everywhere. Mark Ruffalo lost. It was kind of an amazing night for me.
And some of my faves did win. Timatee. So we'll get into it.
No, I'm trying to think.
We're going up, it's out one moment.
You know what I?
Of course.
And they won non-English film as well, the movie.
I know that that song is from a movie.
Yeah.
Okay, yeah.
If they're nominated for anything, everyone else.
Oh, no, I'm sorry, they best nominated.
They won best animation.
It's an animated movie?
I guess.
I thought it was a competition show about finding the next K-pop star.
Oh, I thought it was like people's, like a teenie, like a descendant,
like just like people acting in K-pop.
No, I'm pretty sure it's like a fairy, right?
Yeah.
I didn't know what's animated.
She's like a fairy, like Tinkerbell vibe.
I didn't know what's animated,
but I just want to say I don't know anything about K-pop demon hunters,
except for the song.
I completely support K-pop demon hunters.
No, and the woman giving the speech,
actually almost brought me to tears.
She was like, it is so amazing to see, like,
this global movie be so widely obsessed and accepted
when it's so deeply rooted in Korean culture.
Like, they don't have big moments like that a lot.
And she was so proud.
And I was proud for it.
I was, like, getting choked up.
I love K-pop Demon Hunters
and I know nothing about it
because we're going up
in our moment
you know together
and also I love
and I feel like we said this when
that's my register
I don't think so
when BTS had
La
in the spot tonight
and it's just like
feel good joyful music
and that's what K-pop
Demon Hunter is like
the message is amazing
that song is so good
like it lifts spirits
it bridges generational gaps
I love
I also feel like
the kids
haven't had like had a hit this big.
I want to say since.
Trolls.
Frozen, let it go.
Yeah.
That took over the world.
Yeah.
You know, there's not there.
I feel like, and I'm not into Cape,
I feel like it's for like older kids.
And it's girly.
What is?
K-pop demon hunters.
I don't know.
I see all the girls dressed up for,
for Halloween with the long braid.
That's how you know what's in the culture.
Like the Halloween costumes,
everyone was K-pop Demon Hunters.
I'm happy for you guys.
Yeah.
I support it.
Yeah.
Maybe we should watch it.
I didn't know it was animated.
That would be weird to watch.
Yeah, I have a really low bar for animation.
I'm not into.
And I know that's like a part of parenthood where it's like you just kind of have to watch these movies.
And I just feel like that's going to be Ben's for like Ben is obsessed with Disney.
I'll be in the other room watching reality TV.
Like wake me up when it's over.
Understood.
You know.
So yeah, let's get into.
Should we get into it?
I feel like we didn't fully PFFB.
Rep.
Yeah.
Piffa.
Do you want to tell everyone about the circus?
Oh my God.
I do.
We went to the circus in Miami on Saturday.
like with all the kids.
It was like my first outing as like a mom.
Like you guys always do stuff like that.
And I was so happy to be there.
Let me tell you what they don't tell you about the circus.
She has some.
I actually have so many thoughts and notes.
And I feel like it must be really hard for the creative directors.
It can be under the Ringling Brothers.
I don't know if there are other ones.
So it was the one.
It wasn't like a bootlegs.
No, no, it was like official.
Like Circus.
Like Ringling Barnam Bro.
And they were saying this.
Ain't no party like a Ringling party because a Ringling party
doesn't stop me and your husband.
We're not stop saying that.
Ain't nobody like a ringling party because a ringling party.
because a ringling, but I don't stop.
And I have so many thoughts.
I do feel sad for whoever's job
it is to come up with the songs
and the choreography and stuff.
It must be really, really hard for them
to not tap into the greatest showman soundtrack.
There must be a reason why they don't,
whether it's too expensive to clear,
because I felt really stupid being there,
not listening to any, and they couldn't even,
they need to rewrite the stars for trapeas.
They need the opener to be the greatest showman tour.
And Zach was just like,
well, they just need to do a greatest showman tour
for kids.
Like, it doesn't need to be the wringling.
It would be nice if they,
all like I just felt so stupid. I was sitting there being like whoa whoa now I do believe like woke
culture sorry not to sound like Bill Maher woke culture has ruined the circus and I'm actually down
you know I don't I don't wish long for the days where we're like you know abusing animals
like staring at the freaks um so I just feel like the circus like needs to end and it's like
what are you showcasing if not the things that you used to showcase at the circus which I'm not
nobody wants to see that no and I'm not and I'm
Because I'm not saying like that it's bad that woke culture.
Like that's where woke slayed, you know?
Like we don't need to be doing that.
But what goes on at the circus, if not that?
I'm not sure.
What did you guys go for actually?
So there was like a fake dog, like a robot dog.
It was like actually stupid.
Trapeze, acrobatts, trampolines.
That's the thing.
It's just two hour show.
There was an intermission.
And that's like Cirque de Soleil.
How do they differentiate themselves?
The trapeze was really amazing.
Like real, like I was awestruck.
The kids at that point, I think we're like really over it.
I was like, wait, we're just getting started.
Some of the other tricks were like cool, unicycle.
I don't know.
I just feel like as a society, we have moved past the need for a circus.
Although I hate to cut children's programming for the arts, you know?
I feel like, you know, Ms. Darbis, the arts are so important.
But I do feel like the circus needs to evolve.
And that's on them to figure out.
I know.
And that's on the greatest showman.
That's on Passick and Paul.
The greatest showman can barely get their musical theater production on Broadway off the ground.
They're not taking on a way.
world tour. So that's why Ringling Brothers should collaborate with Greatest Women. I didn't go to
the circus because I was home with Max. So like I missed all of this. Yeah. And I forgot to fill you in.
And this is probably not a reflection. But I heard my husband on the phone on my desk. He was like
catching up with friends and family. Like I heard the sound bite over and over again. The circus is not
what it used to be. And your husband like could knock it over the fact that there were no clowns.
Yeah. Which I guess are clowns canceled? I think they're considered really spooky. Like it's
not family friendly if there are clowns. Clowns like most kids are afraid of.
Yeah. I'm not...
Oh, and to be clear, I'm not the only person who thought this way.
The arena was less than 50% full.
I thought we got there early.
Now, this is more of a reflection on this arena, the Casaya Arena, more so than the Ringling
Brothers.
Let me tell you some of the best food I've ever had from...
I had this fucking hot pretzel.
And I'm from New York City.
Like, I know good hot pretzels.
The best pretzel I've ever had in my entire life.
Like, the Zepound could not stop me from housing this fucking pretzel.
And I had to eat it behind the kids because kids were like just getting like little popcorn.
And I was like, little popcorn.
literally hiding behind a chair like we were at Fat Camp eating this fucking pretzel.
It was so delicious, like so salty, so soft.
It was literally disintegrate.
It felt like cotton candy.
Like it was fucking amazing.
And everyone agreed.
Oh, wow.
Looks like we have to take in a heat game at the Cats Eye Arena.
Oh, Katzai.
No, that's.
That's a demon hunters.
I think it's called the Casaya arena, something like that.
Casaya, yeah.
Yeah.
This pretzel was so good, you guys.
It's like I haven't, like, that's what I came home and talked to people about, not the music
or anything.
Yeah.
And they were just playing like Doja Cat and like popular music.
It felt weird.
It felt weird.
No, like, hey, G2 rock around to rock around that's right.
All time is tricky.
Like love run DMC.
At the circus, I don't know.
It just, it didn't matter.
They should have played.
Of course not.
Like nothing.
It was really weird.
And then I got to thinking about the performers.
You know, of course, as an empath.
Who are they?
Yeah.
Where do they come from?
As an empath, I couldn't know, but look at these people.
I wonder, how do you become a performer on the circus?
Like, it's not like they live in Miami.
Like, they're travel.
the you know they're off to north carolina um and what's it like to be in the traveling circus
and is it like is that your stated goal or is it you know you were a gymnast and now you're doing
circus and then you're going to you know you go on to do other things like so we were actually
pipeline we were discussing that as well your husband and i about how a lot of them especially in
the trapeze were probably on some sort of Olympic track at one point because they were that sophisticated
in there on disney on ice so Olivia was being
such a fucking no-it-all. She's so funny. Like when it started, like, we just knew it wasn't
going to be, like, amazing. And she was like, we have to go to Disney on Ice. She was like, she was
just being like that mom who's like done it all already. And I'm new here. She was like, have you
seen Disney on Ice? I'm like, why the fuck would I have seen Disney on Ice? And she was like, it's so
much better. Like, you really have to go see it. And I was like, okay, like, take me.
Well, the thing is like Disney on Ice has a lot to pull from. Right. Right. A lot of
material. Yeah. And really like they, they sort of just rest on their laurels of Pard G.
The soundtrack, too. But there's not, but there's not like, there's not like, there's
The circus has to have to do so many things.
Even if they slayed unicycles, like, okay, and everyone's like, what's next?
It's like, the circus can never be doing enough.
No, and I do want to say about the unicycles.
I feel like I use them as an example.
They actually were really good.
I saw a video of them jumping on a trampoline on unicycle.
And that wasn't even the most impressive part.
Like, we were really, and when I tell you, the kids, like, could not have cared last.
There was a big screen, like, playing the music.
And the kids were just watching the screen.
It was two hours of screen time.
Literally.
No one told me that.
Never again.
It was two hours of screen time.
You're a lie.
No, no, I'm totally kidding.
They went to a movie.
But they did have a big screen.
As they should.
To, like, you know, show what's happening on the floor in case you're up in the risers.
They didn't watch the live show.
They watched the screen.
They were just, like, sort of, like, looking at everything.
Sure.
Yeah.
Sure.
So I went to the circus.
Great.
Yeah.
Wouldn't recommend, but you had a nice time.
I don't know.
If you're looking for, like, you know.
I love a, you know, a children's activity where we're seated.
Yeah.
You know, a lot of these, you know, motherhood, parent activities are physically laborious.
And I'm just not at a stage in my life where I can be, like,
squatting and rolling around. You know music class, like the sitting on the floor, it kills me.
My legs fall asleep. My back is broken. I'm hunched over like an actual.
Like one of those chairs, like a cozy creek, thousand percent. Or like a soccer mom chair.
Like, but you need to be on the floor. So I know.
The sitting at music class, like, it's, I'm almost like at my limit. Like I can't do music
class anymore. She literally just started. So to be clear, I really like seated affairs.
So I'm not going to clown on the circus. And anytime you guys want to go to like a ticketed event where
we're sitting, I'm down.
Yeah. Okay. Great. Well, thank you. And yeah, consider. I just feel like me giving a negative review.
Is that going to be like the final nail in the coffin for wringling? Like, I feel bad.
No, no. I think there's so much potential. Yeah. You know, and agreed people love children's programming.
Disney and I sells out so quick because we're looking for things like that to do. Right. And so Jackie was literally empty.
Yeah, I could see that in some of the video.
Consider partnership with the greatest showman. Don't consider. Pursue.
actively. And anything can be
renewed and reinvigorated. It's true.
You know? Yeah. Yeah. You guys have
such amazing brand. Just because you can't beat this shit out
of elephants. Doesn't mean you can't put on a good show. It doesn't mean you have
anything to begin with. No, and it's like try a little harder, honestly.
Yeah. Embrace your inner PT. He would have figured it out.
Okay, so there was a character named PT. I heard of a dragon named PT.
Yeah. And there was also like a DJ and there was like a girl. Like she was like
show running the whole thing. She was cute. Yeah, I don't know.
The thing is the point of the circus that gets to entertain.
So you're saying you can't entertain us?
That's not true.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I feel bad.
Yeah.
I feel like maybe some of them were like college cheerleaders too because
you know they talked in cheer about how like there's no professional career for a college
cheerleader.
Like collegiate is the highest level that you can perform and then you have to what?
Like go work in marketing.
Um, so maybe some of them join the circus.
And actually.
Like when you said like you run off and join the circus like that used to mean
something else. It used to mean you're crazy. No, but like when you just said like they'll just
join this. Actually, you know what? I was really surprised by it. Now it means like you're a touring artist.
I guess, yeah. A lot of the performers were Asian and I think that a lot of, um, the like dancing and
choreograph style is inspired by like Asian martial arts because it was like a lot of jumping.
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Our first story, Golden Globes, 2026, complete list of winners and other notable moments.
Shall we?
Yep.
Start with Winners or start with Nicky Glazer?
Let's start with Nikki Glazer.
I watched her monologue in the car on the way here.
Yes, I drive Humble Brag and I drive a car by myself, and that's something that I can do.
That's great.
Whilst listening to a monologue.
Yeah, that's crazy.
And I thought it was hysterical.
I laughed out loud so many times.
Yeah, she is just great at this.
And I think it's like a really delicate balance
because she's like known for roasting.
And sometimes when you come on and roast,
it gets uncomfortable.
And so it really is like a perfect balance
of being funny, being snarky,
roasting people in a way that's like not mean,
not going to offend anyone.
I don't think anybody took anything like too to heart
because she didn't say anything that mean
except to Kevin Hart.
And like she knows him personally.
You could tell.
I thought she was great.
She brings everything.
She has the wit, the snark.
But she also had like maybe like six or seven outfit.
it changes and she just kept looking like more amazing.
Every time she walked out, they made her, she made them play a Taylor Swift song.
Joe Alwyn was in the audience.
Like just seriously, that's our girl.
That's our girl.
And I feel like for the next couple of years, we don't need to give this job to anyone else.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
I haven't like seen anything of any, you know, awkward moment.
No.
The monologue.
Oh, except there was this like song.
I didn't like it.
And it was like cute at the end because they brought Fran Dresher out.
And like she made like, oh, your voice is in a wing.
Ha, ha, like it was funny.
But, um, that, that, um, that was.
One thing where she just did karaoke to Golden from K-pop Demon Hunters, but she changed the words and were, like, I didn't like that.
But was it, like, offensive and awkward or just not funny and not your favorite?
It wasn't offensive at all.
It wasn't like a Joe Koi.
No, I feel like they had just come back from break.
People were still, like, standing and she's, like, dancing.
And everyone's, like, schmoozing.
It was, like, that was the only low point.
It just didn't hit, but, like, it wasn't.
Bad or offensive, no.
Great.
It didn't hit.
I think she should get the job again next year.
And I would imagine that she will.
I would imagine that she will, too.
It is the hardest worst job and she executes flawlessly every time.
No, she's putting everyone on notice because it's like you can do this job.
Maybe it's not the hardest worst job.
Maybe if you're just a funny person, like it's doable.
That's a really good point.
Because for so long we're like, it's a thankless job.
There's no funny jokes to make with the people in the room.
Two years in a row, funny jokes, the audience is laughing, the people are laughing.
It's a job that can be done.
Now, I thought that the Golden Globes were so interesting because obviously it's a movie.
and TV. And like, I feel like
I don't ever really have issues with, like, who they nominated.
Like, yeah, it's all the good popular shows. But there are, like,
fringe categories that I find really interesting. Of course, last night
was the first time they did podcasts. They also
do stand-up comedy. And I was really shocked
because I had not heard
of one of the comedy specials that was
nominated. Did you know
Kumail Nanjiani
had a special?
No, but like...
Sarah Silverman had a special. Bill Maher had a special.
Ricky Jervais was nominated,
and he won, and yeah, sure, he released his specials
lot. So, like, I would assume that he had one. I was shocked. I had literally never heard of any of these
specials. I just feel like they totally missed the mark on, that's not the specials people were
talking about this year. The ones, you know, it's like more like internet, but like the, the big
podcasters, Andrew Schultz, like, that's who people talk about. Yeah, I can't say I'm up on the
specials these days because I'm really not either. There are so many specials. I've kind of like
exited my era of watching so many, of watching the specials. I feel like people have moved on from
comedy specials. Maybe that's like a hot take, but I feel like there were a couple of years where
it was like comedy specials. Or maybe at least for me. Like, and I feel like maybe there was a time
where I was like comedy, you know, and I was like following more comedian. And someone really has to have
a great hook if I'm going to sit down and watch your special or like been through. I feel like we
watched Ellen's or attempted to. Right. Because of like, what is she said? You know? And so when there's not
that it's just like, here's another special about the last year of my life. Right. If I don't follow you
that closely to begin with, I don't care. I don't care. And then the ones that like made.
waves like that I heard about were just none of these. Yeah. Like Golden Globes is a little
antiquated giving it to like these old school comedians and it's like yeah, well you might have had a
good special but no one's talking about it. Yeah. Yeah. I guess the only special I watched last
year that I can remember and it's because you just said it was Andrew Schultz. Right, right.
But I'm yeah, maybe there's another one but you didn't say it so I don't remember it.
And then with the podcasts, you know what I didn't even realize. I loved, first of all, like them
doing a podcast category. I'm like seriously obsessed and I'm so happy Amy one. I've actually
done like a total 180 on Amy because I really respected that she got up there and was like I'm new here
it's such a sleigh that she has been podcasting the shortest and won like that's huge um and I didn't even
realize like the geopolitical climate of her being nominated up against her ex-husband will Rnett from smart
list and I'm so glad they lost um but every single one nominated was an interview show I didn't even
realize that I didn't know if Mel Robbins but she does she just interviews people um I don't know like
what about justice for the scripted shows you know there are other types of shows oh I
I feel like if you're going to get into scripted shows, that's a different category.
Well, yes, then it's a, then it is a podcast award show.
If you're going into genre.
Which we've been needing.
And I actually think the more celebrity podcasts there are, like the more there is a need for the potties.
Yeah.
Because like people, they like to do award shows around celebrities.
There is a need for the parties.
They're like, oh, we don't need an award show for you, Slob.
Yeah.
So for that reason, this is a great start.
I'm looking at everyone who was nominated.
What's up first?
NPR.
Is that, but not the daily?
It's like the daily, but the daily didn't get nominated.
So there was a very specific criteria as well for who could have even been selected for a nomination.
What was the criteria?
You had to be one of the top 25 podcasts.
So there's only 25 you could have chosen from.
That feels right.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right?
Yeah.
And I'm not mad about Amy winning.
I think it's crazy that she's been doing it.
It's crazy.
But like, the Golden Globes just represent the year of the arts.
So, like, who, they don't care that you didn't podcast.
podcast in 2024.
Right.
Objection relevance.
Not their problem.
Yeah.
So her 2025 year was better
than everyone else's
according to the Golden Globes.
I hope like...
Better than the toast,
but as we said,
it was an interview thing.
I hope like GigiHQ
feels good about the inclusion
of podcast categories.
I hope they would do it again.
Like I really,
I think it's so good for the medium.
It's such a,
it's such a sign of respect.
It's very exciting.
It is.
And I think in this case,
I'm happy,
I'm glad for celebrities
that like,
they're the ones moving the ball on this.
They really give us a platform.
They gave us a platform.
They gave us.
platform they uplifted these voices so let's get into the winner shall we yeah sorry um oh do you have
like a best dress oh i wasn't watching that closely but i thought jennifer lawrence that was my best rest
she looked amazing kiley was amazing but seriously kiley could wear anything it's just kiley is there
right she also didn't walk the carpet so like i don't know if we can really include her it's like i need
to see a red carpet photo yeah so here are the winners of the major categories um this usually doesn't
mean anything to me, but this year more than ever, I've never even heard of some of these.
It means less and less.
It means so little.
Yeah.
Best drama was Hamnet.
Yeah.
And I...
It's not Hamlet with a typo.
That's what Nikki Glazer.
They did a segment.
It was like, oh, let's see the trending searches, what people are looking up.
How to spell Hamlet.
Oh, that's funny.
Or something like that.
Yeah.
It was funny.
Her joke about Hamnet.
Spanx.
So that Hamlet beat out Frankenstein.
It was just an accident.
That's the name of a movie.
It was just an accident.
the secret agent, sentimental value, and sinners.
I've heard of sinners.
And they won box office achievement.
Haley Stainfield was there with her bump.
Michael B. Jordan was there looking sexy.
A funny Nikki Blazer joke was I saw Wicked 2 for money.
hilarious.
And they cut to Ariana Grande at that moment.
She did laugh.
I was in my car, so I didn't get to watch.
The reactions.
The reactions.
Because I'm the safe driver.
Oh, and the Leonardo DiCaprio bit was actually very funny and very true.
I was thinking.
I'm like, she made a joke about his girlfriend.
I'm like, I feel like she's smarter than that.
Like, we're so played out.
Like, 25-year-old girlfriend.
And she was like, and I have to make that joke
because we literally know nothing else about you.
And it's like, yes, actually.
Like, what does Leo like?
Yeah.
Besides 25-year-old girls.
Best comedy or musical.
One battle after another.
So that was Leo's movie, Guillermo del Guillermo.
Guillermo.
And that's who he went on New Heights with
to promote that movie.
Okay.
That's, yeah, that was just,
that's my limited knowledge.
Giammo del Toro?
I feel like it's not gearmore.
Benizio del Toro.
Are they brothers?
Or maybe he's Adele something else.
I don't think he's a Del Toro.
Yeah, Benizio Del Blank.
He looks like Brad Pitt, by the way.
I thought it was Brad Pitt.
Did you?
I saw a picture like from the party
and someone was like hugging someone that looked like Brad Pitt.
So I went to look.
I'm like, he's hugging Brad Pitt.
Right. Benetio.
Oh, and I have one more thing to say about the...
Wait, what's his name?
Del Toro.
Not brothers, no relation.
I have something else to say.
I feel like this is going to be really unpopular.
opinion. I thought Nikki's bit about George Cludey. I mean to ask you something.
My Natsprezzo. Hysterical. You didn't watch, but like the Fibisina on Amal. Like, girl,
smile, you're on camera. Claudia, I was wondering what she was going to say. I have a question I went
after. I thought it was going to be like something vulgar. Or like, you know, cast me in your movie.
Like, hilarious. My net sprette. Like, Amal had such a mug. I was like, girl, you're at the Golden Globes. Live a little.
Let your hair down.
Like calling out people for their sponsors.
It's so funny.
So funny.
I didn't even know he's the face of Nitzspretz.
You didn't even see his commercials?
Not really.
Oh my God.
It's all over.
Maybe because they know they already got me.
I have a Nets breads.
Yeah, right.
You're the target demographic reach.
Target check.
Right.
Okay.
Now Best Actor in a Drama.
Wagner for the Secret Agent.
Okay.
Congratulations, Wagner.
Love you.
Best actress in a drama.
Jesse Buckley.
Hamlet. Okay. Congratulations, Jesse.
Best non-English language film, The Secret Agent. I didn't know that was a non-English language
film as I read this list. You learned something new every day. Best animated film,
K-pop Demon Hunters. So cute. And you know what? I guess it wasn't like a stacked year because
the only other movie I've heard of is Utopia 2. Right. And that's really because of dancing with the stars.
Right.
Robert Irwin.
And I am a mama.
Right.
And I don't know these.
So, yeah.
They would have won regardless.
They would have gone regardless.
But they could have swept anything.
Yeah.
Best director, Paul Thomas Anderson, one battle or another.
So Judd Apatow gave out this award.
Okay.
And he did this bit that was so crazy.
I don't know what the reaction was.
Please sign off the comments.
Did you like it?
I thought it was like so, hey, look at me.
Like, it was just.
He was just being like, well, they obviously asked me
to give out the word for best director because they think I'm,
like, the best director ever.
And like, I'm the best.
And it was just like, kind of.
Has he ever won?
I don't know.
It was just like kind of girly.
Like, I don't know.
I really did not like it.
And he's like, I want to think my muse, Leslie.
And like, I was just like, can you stop?
Oh, also I need to talk about J-Lo.
He's thanking his muse, Leslie, though he hasn't won anything.
Right.
That was like the joke.
Like, I'm, look, I feel like I won because I've been asked to give this a one.
I guess it's like girly because it's like unsurious and that's how like that's girl humor.
Yeah, it's just like I'm the best.
Yeah, no.
And it's like yucky.
I don't know.
I really didn't like it.
I understand.
But I could see people being like Judd Abid.
I was so funny.
Well, they definitely have like Judd goggles on those people.
Like some people are just like Judd Apologist.
Yeah.
And he did say, which I thought was actually not cool.
He was talking about like people in the room and he was like and Seth Rogan left because he won his award.
And then Joe Rogan's.
What's the same?
Judd-Avital said that he had left.
And I thought that was actually really uncool.
Like, everybody was in the room seated for your award.
What about the person at the very end?
Uncool that Seth left.
Yeah.
Uncool that Judge said it.
I don't give a fuck.
Like, the fact that he left, I don't know.
I thought that was really lame.
I think Seth Rogan is lame.
Yeah, of course.
But now I have like a really good reason.
Like, I just thought it was not cool.
Like, you got everyone to stand up for you and like not be seat fillers, right?
Like, it's just rude.
Yeah.
I thought it was rude.
Best actor in a comedy or musical
Our boy Timothy Shalome
For Marty Supreme
Now we got a very small
Kylie
Yeah
We got a Kylie reference
But not like what we got
Of the critics choice
I feel like actually also really liked his speech
About how he just
Was really raised by his dad
To be like so grateful for everything
And that's how in years past
He's come to this award ceremony
And left empty hand and like
Not been upset about it
Like felt so grateful
And that this just means so much more
and, you know, thanking everybody at the film, Josh Shafti, yada, yada, O'Dessa, the cast, the crew,
and my partner, I love you.
No, Kylie.
My parents and my partner, I love you.
So now she's, like, in that category.
He can't have said the same thing that he said two weeks ago, like, boring.
But he said partner again.
Yeah, but, like, she is part of his unit.
Yeah, and the, yeah.
And I'm waiting for the Oscar speech.
Like, that's the big one.
Oh, right.
So I think it's pretty clear.
Like, he has a, like, more than ever has a real.
chance and I do think I might have to tune into the Oscars for that reason. However, he'll be up against,
really, because there's two categories. Yes, it's easier to win the Golden Globe because they split the
movies into categories. So Wagner Moore won best actor in a drama. So it's Timothy versus Wagner.
He needs to look out for Wagner. Yeah. That's all I'm saying. Yeah. Cinematic and boxed off
achievement, sinners, best actress in a musical or comedy, Rose Byrne, if I had legs, I'd kick you.
Oh, okay. She was like shook because she's in like some like a random independent Josh Saffty film.
Like the Josh Safty film is Marty Supreme
And she was there like on this like art film
She had no clue she was going to win
I was wondering if she was still married to Bobby Canne Valley
And then she said Bobby I love you
He couldn't be here tonight
I wasn't sure if she was joking
He couldn't be here tonight because we're purchasing a
A what
A bearded dragon and he's like at this expo in New Jersey
Now it was just so specific
That I thought like it was the truth
Because she had such details
What's a bearded dragon?
Like a pet?
Like a lizard yeah
Oh is it?
Yeah
Pet lizard.
You know.
So I just, did anybody else know if she was serious or joking?
And I love Roseburn.
She's so underrated.
I think a bearded dragon and it's a pet lizard.
How do you know that?
How do you know that?
Is that a known thing?
Yeah, I think it's known.
You guys are free.
I don't know.
It sounds like you're the free.
The world.
Like, why is that a bearded dragon?
I don't know.
I don't know how to make up the rules.
Oh my God.
I see bearded dragons every day.
Yeah.
Well, you see iguanas every day.
No, I see lizards.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I always take a picture sent it to Margo.
That's how like I know she's with me.
I didn't ever heard of this or whatever,
but Roseburn's amazing actress, so yeah, I love her.
Give it to her.
If it wasn't going to be for Annie, it should be for this.
And I feel like she really did not think she was going to win.
Like she brought her brother like as her date.
Like I think if she had a real chance, like her husband would have been there.
Yeah.
The only other buzzy one that I saw was best supporting actress,
Teana Taylor for one battle after.
Yes, she really was shook.
She did not know she was going to win.
She gave a great speech.
She looked gorgeous.
I think most notably.
a lot of the like TV shows that we thought were going to win like White Lotus.
Three of the women were nominated in the category for Carrie Coon, Amy Lou Wood, and Parker
Posey, and none of them won.
I think that's great.
Who did win for the woman?
For which.
For the show.
Which show?
TV show, like actress and a TV show.
Maybe supporting actress in a TV show.
Who?
Oh, yeah, Gene Smart.
She deserves it.
And she wins always.
So like, we know.
Best supporting actress.
I see the three white load eye.
we have Aaron Doherty from adolescence.
Oh, adolescence swept two.
The little kid won.
She won, the dad one.
He was the Netflix show.
And it was filmed in one take.
Was it?
Is that the one that was filmed in one take?
I didn't know that that was a thing.
Yeah.
That's pretty cool.
That's actually very cool.
Yeah.
Like a play.
Yeah, but it's like you could not.
You know, like, why are you doing all that?
Yeah, I saw.
We have this amazing thing called like Final Cut Pro.
Our fellow.
family.
Our fellow family.
Josh Peck.
He was like talking about it months ago.
Got it.
He's like,
you could cut.
It's such a good call.
You know what?
This has kind of been like a weekend for me
of like realizing stuff.
Uh-huh.
And you actually helped me come to this realization.
Because last night I put Ruby in his pajamas
without an undershirt.
And I don't know why.
Like I didn't realize until you said it.
Like I thought they were literally going to cuff me up and take me to jail if I didn't
put the baby's onesie on and then the pajamas.
Every outfit he wears up.
undershirt. And then I had this realization. I'm like, we also could not. Like, we're in Florida
it's fucking hot. He doesn't be wearing multiple layers. And he's also just like a baby who runs hot.
It was just this sort of like freeing realization. Yeah. They're kind of a baby. And he always
cries when I put the undershirt on. Like, oh, well, you got to get the ones that snap down the side.
I do. But like it's just always like the arms. Like it's a thing. No. And it's like when
baby is a newborn, they should have one more layer. Yes. So if you're wearing Jamas,
they should have Jamas and an underlayer. My king is eight months and he's enormous. Like,
he's fine. And as they get bigger like that, no longer.
applies plus if there's and i just bought like new kite baby onesies but like i don't eat them i'll take
them is sure yeah actually you could wear them as a shirt yeah yeah yeah with nothing else
a shirt yeah no you're definitely like on that onesie grind with baby number one yeah and then it
starts to be like how about that onesie do we really need it um um okay so is that golden globes
we feel good i feel good about it um which yeah yeah what one like best picture
one day after another oh right oh right battle one
battle after you. And then also comedy. Right, which was what? Comedy or musical. I believe we said it. Best
Comedy or musical. One battle after another. Okay. So best drama. Hamann. Oh, right, right. Right. Yeah, we said it. I know I said I was going to like watch all the Oscar movies this year because I had such a good time last year. And like, it's fun to recap when you like know stuff. But the thing is nobody ever agrees with me. So I watched all those shitty movies last year just for a Nora to win. Like I don't agree with my fellow voter. So you can all go eat my ass. How about that? Yeah.
And there's so many better things worth your time.
Like, seriously, if you're going to devote that time, like, do Real House as of Salt Lake City.
Or, like, Trader Season 3.
Yeah.
It's true.
Yeah.
And I think that's what, like, our audience is.
Wants from us, yeah.
Please, don't ask me.
Don't ask me to do it.
It was just a fun thing to do when I was pregnant when I literally, like, had nothing but time.
Yeah.
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Alex Earl reveals her mom was diagnosed with breast cancer while she competed on dancing with the stars.
Devastating.
So Alex Earl just revealed that her mom, Melissa, has been diagnosed with breast cancer.
yesterday she opened up about her mom's health journey
and a post shared on Instagram and TikTok
posting a video showing her and her sister Ashton
by their mom's side in the hospital doing her hair
holding her hand and having some ice cream and drinks together
she posted the clip with fuck cancer written over it
while a voiceover said strong women never give up
we might need a coffee we might need a good cry
we might need a day in bed but we will always come back stronger
now I'm sick from this obviously
I blame Alex Earl's dad
okay I just when I think of this woman
and what she's been through in her life and how much she's had to put up with for her family,
like, and for the sake of her children, I'm always in awe of her.
I feel like I'm always referencing, like, how amazing she is.
And like, of course, like she gets cancer.
This is bullshit.
I just blame him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I saw this yesterday.
I was like, oh, did I miss something?
Because it wasn't like a.
Yeah.
And now to know that she was diagnosed while Alex was doing dancing with the stars.
So like a very like grueling schedule midst the breakup with Braxton, like Alex is going through it.
I know.
So in hindsight, I'm really glad that she had that reprieve.
even in New Year's, like, in just like a fun, swirly weekend.
Of course.
She's going through a hard time.
And sometimes you just, like, have to be spotted with Tom Brady to help, like, your overall
wellness.
Yeah.
Just, like, get the vibes up.
Yeah.
So I'm wishing them the best and, um, just really, really sad.
Very sad.
Unexpected.
Yeah.
Um, are you ready for our next story?
Some controversy for Jennifer Lawrence.
Of course I'm ready.
Who I relate to on a very deep level.
Share that she rehomed her dog who bit her child.
So Jennifer Lawrence is getting a lot of backlash.
being called awful after revealing she re-
Not by me by the way.
After revealing she rehomed her chihuahua named Princess Pippie,
longstocking, because it bit her son.
So she was on a panel and she shared that she looked at her dogs differently
after having kids and because one of them bit her.
Well, what she had said was that like she before she had kids was an insane dog mom.
She's like, I literally moved to 67 the first to be near this dog park.
Like I was obsessed with my dog.
like nothing could have, you know, torn us apart.
And then when she had her first baby, she started to look at the dog, like, very Romeo,
like being like, girl, get out of here.
Like she just, she's like, my priorities completely changed.
And she was like wanting to rehome him.
And then the dog bit one of the kids.
And then it was like a no-brainer.
Yeah.
And I don't know why people are mad at her for this.
She said, after I had a kid, my dogs became so scary.
It's almost like I don't recognize dogs right now.
Like I just see them as a threat.
Right.
One of them bit my son and that made me just want to obliterate every dog.
I was just like, I'm going to take you out.
You are your fucking family and your fucking.
friends. She went on to reveal that the dogs
are now staying with her parents, so not even like
literally the least big deal ever. Re-home. People
are so sensitive. I know.
But in general, and I can,
I'm very understanding.
But after a, like, you could want to rehome
your dog once you have kids and they didn't even bite.
Like, it's just like, your priorities change
and you can't give them a better life. Of course.
And I just want to say, giving your dog to live with your parents
is not a re-home. No.
That's literally what I do half the year, like Romeo Lose with Ben's parents.
But,
Right. So it's like, she didn't even need to share this, but I'm honestly glad she did because it's exposing how crazy some people are. Yeah, about like dog. Like, I'm sorry, the dog bit the child. Oh, what are we even talking about the dog bit? But even if the dog bit didn't bite the child, normalize the conversations we're having about, like some people, because I was actually talking to Olivia Colpo about this and her DMs about how like literally nothing has changed. Like she loves her dog more than ever. Like her and the baby and the dog are like this beautiful little family. Christian do. Beautiful family. I'm like, oh, that literally could not be more opposite of my truth. But some people have both experiences. I think if I had had Theo, like, like,
I barely know Romeo, you know what I mean?
But my OG dog, Theo, who unfortunately passed like an untimely death,
if he was my dog right now, I would not be having these problems, like, at all.
So some people have, like, normalize having the conversations about how, like,
sometimes a dog does not fit your life anymore when you have a baby,
and that's just really unfortunate.
And if you are going to rehome your dog, I really have no problem with that as long as
you're taking proper, like, don't just give him away Lucy, juicy, apple goosey.
Like, let's find, let's find a nice home, perhaps a family member.
Even though, like, even Doreet brought him to, like,
the place where she had originally gotten him from but do we want to have the conversation maybe
we don't want to step in it about like the the original point that she was making about how
obsessed she was with her dog and like moving somewhere no because i think at that point you're just
like yucking someone's yums okay like you can think your own thoughts okay but i don't think that
that's a universal truth i think it's just your truth well no it's not universal because other people
obviously feel a different way right like do we want to call them out for that feeling no no because i had
that feeling
Really?
Yeah.
There was like a time in my life where like the most important thing in my life was my dog.
I don't remember you ever being a crazy dog person.
Oh, really?
And I could think of like crazy dog people.
Ben.
Yes.
But not even.
And you did not fall into that category.
Though you love Theo with your whole heart.
Like loving your animal is a normal thing.
But yeah.
Revolving your life around them as if they are a child.
I don't judge.
I actually don't.
As if they are a child.
For some people like the dogs are their children.
And you don't think.
Either for their whole life for this period of your life.
No, I really, I don't have a problem with it.
I don't.
I mean, I'll talk shit about you behind your back, but like I'm not on the podcast.
You won't touch it.
No, I don't feel like alienating people.
You know, there are some things I'm like willing to die on.
Like, I have a feeling that's so strong.
Like I will say it.
No matter the backlash, no matter the comments.
Don't forget to flood the comments with you both look beautiful today.
This is not one of those things.
Is it one of those things for you?
Because you can talk about it.
No, but I just think, you know, let's, let's circle back to that, you know?
Yeah.
Think about that.
Yeah.
I just like, like, lots of culture recess are getting canceled right now.
Like let them have their moment.
We don't need to have ours.
Okay.
Even though I didn't say anything.
Yeah, no, we didn't.
Like, there's nothing that you could even, like, quote.
Like, you know what I mean?
Yeah, we just, like, no clip.
What was I?
But, yeah, brave for Jennifer Lawrence for sharing this even.
Because once you say the word re-home.
It's a trigger word for like the internet.
Yeah.
And one thing about Jennifer Lawrence is like, she's not going to listen and learn.
Like, she said what she fucking says.
She doesn't have social media.
We're not getting a screenshot.
Notes have apology.
We're not getting a clarification.
Like, the saga ends here.
I don't think anyone can tell her anything.
The dog bit her child.
It's absurd.
I can't, but I do feel like a lot of like these articles, like manufactured backlash.
Like, is there actually backlash?
There's no way a reasonable human being could be upset about this.
You can buy backlash for anything, though, if you look hard enough.
Right.
Like three comments.
Yeah.
If you want to muster it up.
That's what I mean.
They like make it for the article.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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and just it reminded me that I have a crazy story to tell you.
I forgot to tell you this.
So I had to make an appointment.
I needed like an air conditioning guy to come to my apartment in New York.
And I'm calling and I'm making an appointment with this guy and ask me questions like the address,
what the issue is, yada yada.
And I realized about halfway through, I believe I'm on the phone with an AI chatbot.
It was so crazy.
I made a full appointment.
Like literally no issue.
It was one of the most pleasant conversations I've ever had.
I got an email and a text confirmation.
and the only thing that got wrong was they spelled by last name,
O-S-H-R-A-E.
I don't give a fuck.
They got everything right.
My email, they were like, spell your email.
Did you spell out your name for them?
You didn't even have to.
I think I did.
I did.
It was so crazy.
First of all, the voice was so life,
but also he wasn't dumb.
Like, anytime I've ever been on the phone with the machine,
I'm like, operator, operator representative.
Oh my God, it was actually crazy.
And that had me shaken in my AI boots, like, for real.
But that's a good story.
Yeah.
Except for, you know, the loss of jobs.
Right.
I guess if they were doing an amazing job,
No, and I feel like telemarketers are like...
You would be, like, sad that now you're talking to a robot.
Instead, you're happy.
Yeah, this is where I'm at with AI.
Like, if it's improving my quality of life, I have no problem with that.
Yeah.
And that's what happened.
Yeah, well, I think also where I'm at with AI is like it will probably be the end of the world.
As we know.
And destroy, like, the human race, right?
So, might as well enjoy the benefits while we can.
That's beautiful.
That's where I.
No, I like that.
But you know, one thing that AI can.
Can't do?
What?
Make you a loaf of bread.
But you know who can?
Taylor Swift, she's gifting her celebrity friends, her famous homemade sourdough loaves during
a night out in L.A.
And I will say regarding chat and sourdough, I have used chat to troubleshoot some of my
loaves.
Like what's the perfect amount of cook time and temperature?
And they actually don't have it right for my boule.
They have it right for my sandwich shape, but not for my boule.
They keep burning it.
I want to say.
So me as like a sourdough maker, I won't be replaced by a.
The one thing that I think might.
save us from AI is the fact that a lot of these AI bots are low-key so stupid. Like,
they're wrong about so much. I now have to like double-check stuff when I, when I get the
info from chat. I don't know if that's all bots, if that's chat specifically. I told you that
like chat sent me to a container store once that had been closed for 10 years. Like it's,
it's not all it's cracked up to me. You have to just sort of like double-check your sources.
I agree, but it's getting smarter. Yes, it is getting smarter. It can learn. Yes, but I can
Learn.
That's chat.
Yeah.
And I feel like I know the things that chat's not going to be good at.
Like I was asking for like a specialist in my area for something and then they gave me a bunch
of people and I literally looked them up and none of them existed.
Right.
I know that's not what chat is good for.
Right.
It's not Yelp.
Yeah.
So there are other things where I'm like, oh, this is the perfect thing for chat night to
discuss.
Yeah.
But anyways, Taylor's friends got some loaves.
It's so funny.
Like they were all spotted leaving this restaurant.
We never would have known Taylor was even in.
the building if they hadn't walked out with these sort of like public display displays of Taylor.
The Amazon to go bags for sourdough loaves.
It's interesting.
I noticed that as well.
She uses the brown paper bags that you also use that you literally got from Amazon.
And you would have thought she would have, I don't know, started packaging it like a little
bit more parjoliciously.
Yeah.
Those bread bags are like so ugly.
And I feel like they create a lot of condensation too.
I feel like when you first need a bread bag, you just search Amazon.
Yeah.
And then you realized, wait, I could have gotten one from like Etsy or whatever.
And then you started to get like custom stickers.
But you do have.
have like 50 to 100 of these Amazon ones that you need to use.
I just feel like like Taylor like with her jet.
Like I don't think she really cares about getting rid of like 50 paper bags.
Well, I'll know if like if I don't see 50 of them out in the streets.
Like I'll know she was wasteful and I'll tell everyone.
Wasteful. Is there anything worse?
I think like people know actually.
Like one of the accusations of Taylor that I do find like valid.
Like she's our raceful queen.
I don't think she's, of course she takes her jet.
Take the jet out of it because it's not about waste.
Right.
Right.
Right.
No.
She's like someone who.
who like is wasteful, throws away food, like,
let's buy things from the grocery store that she already had at home
and then like throws it away.
She doesn't, like a trash full of stuff that's like
She doesn't give like girl who takes leftovers home, you know?
I don't know.
I don't think she's wasteful.
Well, I think she has a lot of like staff people who do these things for her.
So like, all right, maybe, you know, there's a cake that is not getting eaten.
Like, does one of the staff members want to take it home?
I think it's actually like easy to not be wasteful when you have a lot of staff.
Okay.
That's just a theory I have about, like, wastefulness.
Yeah.
I just, like, wouldn't, like, count her as, like, a wasteful person.
I don't know why.
So, anyway, she gifted her friends, the Hame sisters, and somber.
And I feel somber.
Like, that was really shocking that somber got a loaf.
It was somber.
I saw him in a picture.
So, um, we spoke at him the other day and we didn't know who he is.
He's not role model, but he sings a song.
He sings a song that you know.
Ready?
Mm-hmm.
We talked about him because he was on SNL.
His song.
is.
Somborini?
It's not sombrini.
Is that it?
I don't know that song but I enjoyed it.
That's it?
How does it go?
Like, I've never heard this song.
Back to Friends.
Can we go back to?
Do how it ends.
Is that it?
So he has one song and he's at dinner
with Taylor Swift?
Listen, we're so close.
Like, we just need a song.
You have two.
It's actually, I'm so good you brought that up.
Nobody, everyone's like you should write a song.
Bitch, I literally did.
Yeah, two.
Two.
I'm sorry I didn't write them.
like I bought them.
Yeah.
And they're really good.
By you.
Toast.
On a time,
we're gonna have a good time.
A thousand ends up to the sky.
We're gonna get toasted tonight.
Can't let it fade.
We got a sparkle in our eyes.
Can't let it wait.
I'm counting down until we start.
We're an negates.
We come to play.
And we play hard.
Ooh.
Two, three, five.
Hun a time.
We're gonna have a good time.
A thousand hands up to the sky.
We're going to get toasted tonight.
I've been feeling it all day.
I want to let it go.
I want to lose control.
Oh, I'm ready to roll.
And I've been daydreaming about this night.
For a long time, I want to dance with you under moonlight.
A toast to the wild ones.
A toast to the good life.
A toast to the lovers.
It's toast to you and I.
A toast to the wild ones.
to you and I.
Imagine hating us and we're just like sitting here singing my original song, you know?
It's insane.
What a waste of your time.
The fact that we have so many haters genuinely blows out of mind.
Genuinely.
Like, we're hilarious.
Do you agree?
I do agree.
You know what I want to do right now.
Sing?
I want to hunt it down.
Oh, I'm constantly.
By the way, you should join me on the weekend.
I'm always hunting it down.
It's 100 down.
It's 100 down.
Like 100 down, yeah.
But like I am like a singer, so I say like, 100 down, you know.
Yeah.
A lot of people don't know that.
Fun fact.
That's 100 down.
100.
Mm-hmm.
You bitchess could never.
And then I think that was an Easter egg for your next song.
I do.
It is high time for me to release another song.
Because hunted was an Easter egg for 100.
Wait.
Oh, and then my second song that I sometimes forget.
It goes.
It was called 100%.
And that was like when we were really in the era of like saying 100%.
Yeah.
100%.
100% don't let them forget go hard till the end because you know that we are 100%
Don't let them forget
Because you know that we are 100
We keeping it we keep it 100
You best believe it keeping it we keep in it we keep in it one an
Oh this the bridge is actually really good. It's like kind of moody
After all is said and done we still got us
We got love, we're one.
Oh no, I'm singing toast.
A toast to us, the wild ones.
One, two, three, never mind.
We don't keep this up because we are 100%.
Yeah, and you know, the producer of both of my songs actually,
oh no, sorry, just a second song,
is the producer of our theme song as well.
I got to get back in the studio with Curtis.
Have you seen those reels, and I imagine TikToks
of like that guy who's like, pretence he's in the studio
when like classic pops are going on?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's you.
You should recreate one.
You should recreate one.
That's me.
Yeah, you should do that today.
And he's like just using like a lazy Susan.
I love that guy.
You are that guy.
Every time I see one of his videos and he always picks like the best part of every song.
That's my guy.
Yeah.
Are you ready for our fifth?
Well, anyway, she made loaves for her friends as like her friends do.
And I was going to say it's kind of like it's such a status symbol like that shitty bag from Amazon.
It kind of reminds me like when Ariana Grande was giving out her seven rings and it was like, well, who has a ring?
And this is just like a ring.
Yeah.
Yeah. Cool girls make bread.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Are you ready for a fifth and final story?
Traders recap.
Spoiler alerts forthcoming.
Yeah.
So if you don't haven't seen all three episodes, this will contain spoilers as to who the traders are, who went home starting now.
Okay.
So let's talk about like the people they chose for traders and like what we think about like the concept of the show.
So I had an idea of what the show.
So I had an idea of what the show was, and it is what I thought it was.
It reminds me, does anybody ever play that game that's, like, made by the same people as Quiplash?
It's called The Faker.
You remember we played that in the House?
I don't remember.
Where one person is the faker, and, like, you literally just lie and, like, say that.
And I'm so good at it.
It's my favorite game.
And this is basically just, like, an in-person version of that.
I'm loving it, I have to say.
First of all, Ben is Zach watching with you?
No, we tried to watch Star Tart.
Like, I was like, let Star Taders and neither of us have ever watched it,
but Max kept waking up.
And so I kept waiting for him, and then it was already Saturday night,
and I haven't started because we were disturbed.
So it's like, I have to go it on my own.
I'm sorry.
Well, he would really like it.
Ben's like enjoying it immensely.
He thinks Alan Cummings is so funny.
Oh, I don't even notice Alan Cummings.
Me neither.
And I do think like a lot of the theatrics are annoying.
Like, I prefer like the juice, the drama.
And I was really shocked at who they chose for traitors.
Now, I don't know what the criteria.
Yeah.
And I do think they want to keep people on their toes, people in the house, the audience.
And I'm shocked at how amazing of a traitor.
I think Lisa Rinna is.
And I do think this show will end up being very good for her.
Because I've been like a very vocal like Lisa Hater.
Like I wasn't a fan of her on Housewives.
I was like ready for her to go.
Um, and I think she's been amazing.
I think she's such a good trader.
She's been so low key.
Like she.
I think that's suspicious.
Well, of course.
I actually think the best one of the traders is Rob.
Well, yes.
Candice like is awful.
I wish that she wasn't a traitor because we're getting so much Candice and
she's like so high on her horse and she's like not my favorite housewife by any means because
I'm still team Monique.
Right.
Like for me, that just is not.
going to work. I think
Rob is great. I don't know him from Love Island. I didn't
watch his season, but he does seem like kind of
dumb as a doorknob and very
unsuspecting and he
is a good game player.
He's not very dumb, but he really like plays it. You don't notice
him. I feel like Renna's kind of an
obvious choice because she isn't actress. I'm surprised
that they picked her because she's so
traitory, just who she is. As a person,
yeah. For the same way they thought
that Donna was a traitor because she's such an obvious choice because
she's not obvious.
is.
Yeah.
No, no, because she's like, sweet old lady.
So it's like, oh, you'd be a great traitor because we would never assume you.
And the same way that that's an obvious choice, I think Rin is an obvious choice because
it's like, of course you're a traitor.
So I have so many thoughts about Donna being selected as a traitor and this whole concept
of secret trader, which is a new phenomenon.
And I don't like it.
Over TG.
Yeah.
And Donna was never going to be a good trader.
It was actually a really bad choice.
And I think like catching a traitor in the second or third episode is not good.
Like, I was shocked.
And the thing is, I feel like you really have to be there, like, feel the vibes.
because everybody was like Donna, it was unanimous.
And I'm like, what did she do besides not talk to you guys?
Like literally, like, what is she different than like Tara?
Right, Tara.
Random.
Donna must have been so obvious.
Like, I don't know what the fuck she was doing.
I also saw theories online saying that she didn't participate in some of the challenges
due to like the physical elements of it and she is this older woman,
which would have given people like a lot of suspicions about her because I feel like
there's something not being said about Donna.
What was so obvious?
I was actually feeling defensive of her.
I was like, she doesn't know you guys.
And she's like, why the fuck would she be up your ass chatting?
She's just this sweet old lady.
So I was like, you guys are wrong.
I thought for sure Colton was the secret traitor.
I thought Colton was something.
He's playing this game very well.
I think he's one of like the smartest game players aside from like the gamers who I don't know.
Even though like Tiffany seems really smart and like a really good gamer, but she's so bar
climbing up the wrong tree with Michael.
Yeah.
It's crazy.
She's so misguided.
She's like, it's Michael.
She named three people and it's none of those people.
Well, everyone.
And so the thing is, it's like, you can be really smart on the show.
But why Colton, I think, is going to go far is nobody knows he's smart.
We know in his confessionals, like, oh, I'm like, that's actually a really good way of thinking.
And he's not there yet, but his thought process is right.
We have to look past the fact that he's, like, a crazy person who stalked his ex-scruff.
Like, it's actually insane that he's on this show and being given this platform.
So I'm just going to, like, try and exist in a vacuum where that didn't happen.
I do think he's playing really well.
Most of the people who come on the show, a lot of them are, like, former reality TV, like, villains, whatever,
who have, like, history of even Sandeval was on it last season.
I do think you just sort of have to.
Okay, but like everyone you just like, none of it comes close to like breaking the lawn,
like being a stalker.
I'm sure.
Like Miriam Webster defined stalker.
I mean what Jesse Smilett's on special forces.
It's true.
I forgot about Jesse Smillet.
Yeah.
That's a good comparison.
I want to talk about with cold.
My issue with the show, it kind of is like may the dumbest person win because if you are
smart, you are automatically eliminated for being smart.
So we're not having this like that.
I mean, the fact that Rob knew there was a murder in plain sight.
And he's like, wait, you started the conga.
But if only he had the opportunity to tell one person.
If you ever needed proof as to why Kannis is a terrible traitor was the conga line.
It was so obvious, so stupid.
Like, that was your quickest way to get everybody in one room.
Like so dumb.
You should have been like, guys, I want to talk about something.
And, like, make an accusation.
And she's messed up a couple times but gotten away with it.
Portia.
Able to smooth it over.
Portia with Michael Rappaport.
And, like, I'm annoyed at Mora because she's the only one who knows the truth.
And she didn't remember.
She wasn't even listening.
Okay, but I ship Mora and Rob.
I ship more and Rob
I wonder if they'll come to that conclusion
themselves. They're both from Love Island. I love more on Love Island.
She was at the Golden Globe. She looked sick. Yeah, she does like a lot
of TV work. She's best friends with Molly May. She's from her season.
She was like the best one on her season. Like personality
out up the wazoo. We're not seeing a lot of it on the show yet.
There's so many people. You know who's like actually really being just like
dumb and is pissing me off and this is going to like offend you personally?
Caroline Samir. Yeah, she stinks. What did she do wrong?
She just stinks. She stinks. She stinks. She stinks.
Like everything she says, I'm like, you're wrong.
She's just like not giving that much.
She's not really participating yet.
But I love her jacket that she keeps wearing her little puffer.
I want to talk about Michael Rappaport, who was like probably the most
polarized.
Talked about person.
I saw before I even started, I saw so much hate for Michael.
And I was like, oh, God, what did he do?
And then I saw this New York Magazine article is Michael Rappaport ruining traders.
But this like scathing, that was the headline.
And then this scathing article.
I was so looking forward to finding out what he did when I tell you I have no idea what
you guys are talking about. First of all, he was cracking me up. And I kind of did think Jam Jam
was a traitor. Like, if you're a traitor and you know it, clap your hands. I'm sorry,
he's this eccentric personality. Maybe he's not for everyone. I have no idea, like,
what people are referring to when they say he's ruining the show.
Well, the people who read that article, like, obviously just don't like him because he's a
Jewish and Zionist and wearing a big Jewish star. Yeah. I think he's hysterical. I was ready
to be like, oh, Michael Rappaport. I don't really know him from that much other than social media.
So I've not, like, seen him in his element. He's so funny. I love that he doesn't like back down
from confrontation. Like other people, they don't want to be in confrontation. They're like,
everyone on these shows has huge personalities. Like, you don't want to be like red to fill by anyone.
Everyone's just like sort of hiding. No one is putting themselves out there. I think he's being so
funny. And also being brave. Everyone is just, that's what's the problem with the show. Everyone
It's heard mentality. Everyone who is quiet skates by until the end. May the dumbest most quiet
person win. Because like the people who are actually putting themselves out there to say, I think it's
this person and then say it's not that person. Well, all of a sudden it's you.
like Ron, like Ron just really try to put something together.
I have such an issue with people hating Ron and now thinking this is where it's like,
you're obviously not a smart person because how you could think Ron acted in any sort of malice
when he just came to the tables like this is the evidence that I have.
He obviously doesn't know Portia.
Who said that?
She just like says stuff and she speaks wrong.
And she's hell.
What bothering me is the same way Portia said we sent Ian home, which by the way, you did
send Ian home because you someone put this team put the casket in his grave.
Like, and we got Ian sent home.
sure. Michael said it at the table so you could see how this slip up would happen. Yeah. And to think that
like Donna, Michael and Ian, who are each like sort of taking the same side right now, that they're
all the traders because they're saying the same thing, you think that the traders would be so
stupid as to like publicly at the round table team up and say here we are. Like they're just,
they're playing checkers when it's a game of chess. Justice for Ron, he had me fully convinced because
and I'd like that, you know, if you're going to, still there. No, of course. But if you're going to
make an accusation, like, proof is paramount. And that's what I was saying with Donna.
Nobody had proof other than the fact that she wasn't talking about. It was just vibes,
which I guess if you were there in person and clearly they were right. But Ron came to the table
with like straight up facts. I appreciate like the clarity in which the accusation was made.
And okay, they were wrong. That's okay. Yeah. If he knew Porsche for one second, like I never thought
of first. She would have been like seriously the world's, if what she was doing was because
she was a traitor, she would be the world's worst traitor. So I don't think was her. But he could
he could have just not said anything and not put a target on his back.
So it's like people who are putting themselves out there who are trying to play the game
like Michael are being penalized.
And so we're going to wind up with just like a bunch of Stephen Colettys.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, you're right.
There's way too many people on this show, although I do appreciate that in the first three episodes,
like four people have already gotten home.
Like they're moving quickly.
There are far too many people.
Like, and even there are people who I think are good and have big personalities are just
falling through the cracks, Mark Ballas.
Like, oh, and also there are a couple of people who, and I literally talk pop culture
for a living, whom I've never.
Never seen in my life.
Eric, the songwriter.
Even Ron, I like him.
Where the hell is Ron?
I agree.
Eric, the songwriter, is random.
I obviously don't know the gamers,
but it's almost unfair to have them in the show
because they're always going to be set up first,
because people know that they're smart.
So it's like the best person to win the show
is someone who like seems dumb but isn't.
And like you play that.
That's really the only way to win.
And that's why I think Rob is good at the game.
That's why I think Gabby Windy won her season.
I could see now why.
You wouldn't like suspect her of being
a mastermind, but she's actually really brilliant.
Yeah. I'm enjoying it so much.
Like I, and I'm now like learning like, you know, some more behind the scenes.
They don't live in the castle.
They stay at a hotel.
That makes sense.
I mean, everyone has glam.
So I was also wondering, are they getting full glam?
For sure.
They're on TV.
They're, you know, TV stars.
I don't think they're going to just like roll out of bed and show up to TV.
And I like that because I'm watching a television show.
Yeah.
Produce it.
Look beautiful, please.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I'm fine with that.
And they are all like, you know, the biggest stars in, in their own lives.
Like they're not going to be like bunking up.
If the traders do get found out, it will be because of Candace.
The thing about Candace, and I feel like this is the most dangerous combination of person,
like someone who really thinks that they're smart and is not.
Yeah.
She is so obvious.
Like how no one is onto her is insane, the conga line thing,
I would have been like, girl, it's you.
Yeah.
How nobody thought that was weird.
Why no one followed up on the lie,
especially after Portia's found out to be a faithful.
Right.
So where did this communication originate?
So someone in this conversation lied,
the person who,
you thought was lying turned out to be a truth teller.
So let's look at the other person.
I feel like there are a couple of threads of things that have happened that people are
like following up on, like Michael and Jam-Tam.
You're following up on the wrong things.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And the people who are there like who are the smart ones, like Tiffany, I feel like her game
theory is really spot on, but she has just completely taken it down the wrong path
and she's going to end up nowhere.
Yeah.
I feel like she's like in love with Michael.
Like she's so blinded by him.
Just say you like Michael and you're like out with him.
No, I get, did you see Michael eating the spaghetti?
Yeah.
That was insane.
I don't like clock it again.
And they literally, they must have known, like, they stayed on him for like four bites.
It was shocking.
He is so funny.
I'm sorry, you're not going to get me to hate Michael.
He's funny.
He's adding like.
And I was like ready too because I was like, oh, he's.
Loud mouth, annoying.
And then I watch everything and I'm like, he's trying to play this game.
He's being funny and he's being brash and not just being scared of being sent home and
not being on TV.
Yeah, no, there are so many people like, seriously, Stephen Clotty, what are you doing there?
Even Clotty, but every time he does speak, I'm like, you're kind of a pee job.
The fact that he would have been a good traitor.
He wouldn't.
He, to me, is the same as Rob, like, just to come out there.
Unassuming.
Unassuming.
Rob, I think is playing it well.
Stephen, when he, like, wouldn't take the seat because he was like, my mom raised me.
I would never, like, make a woman put him around.
And he's still on TV.
So, like, he's, like, still being watched.
Like, there's so many elements that play.
Like, you want to be good, faithful.
You want to be good traitor.
But you're also on TV.
He just wants to be a good person.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, I have no problem with him personally.
There's just too many people on the show.
No, I'm just saying, like, yeah.
But I actually, I don't mind.
he's not someone that I mind.
I don't really mind anyone,
but I'm just like this idea that like only the people
who really middle line it and who go
unnoticed are going to make it until the end
because the people who are really playing the game
are going to get eliminated.
Not my favorite kind of game because I like games of skill
and I feel like the more skill you have,
the quicker you are to be eliminated.
That challenge where they were so, oh, okay,
another person followed the other caraks.
Johnny where?
It's just not working.
Yeah.
Even though like...
And him and Tara have this like big plan to like team up at the end.
Yikes.
they win we'll be eating our words i'm i'm really curious i'm having fun i just want to say i'm
really having fun and i'm like oh and also we've tell me lies this week it took me a minute but what's
also crazy is like it's unconfirmed if this is going to be a good season do you know what i mean
that's kind of like love island it just said that this morning and people are trying to shoehorn it
like it was amazing it was not but the season before was amazing and we missed that one the season before
this one was apparently amazing um and we didn't watch it but so it's like oh maybe i'll go and
watch that if this doesn't turn out to be what I think it's going to be. Yeah. And I really, I like
that they're expanding. I feel like a lot of these shows like dancing with the stars and, um,
what's the show? Jesse Smil, special forces. I really think that they're expanding like their net in
terms of who they're casting and we're ending up with some great moments. And so I think they should
continue to, and maybe that's what like Eric was and you can't win them all obviously like, but like
the wider net, the more people, like throw some podcasters in there. Get like, I do think. Well, of course it
had me thinking like, could I ever do the show? Would I be good at the show?
And I don't think that I would be, so I'm not going to nominate myself.
I think I would be amazing.
It's literally that game the faker.
Oh, and because you love lying.
Yeah, you have to watch it out because you always look up when you do.
So true.
Yeah.
I would love for them to have like a mentalist on the show.
Oh, did you see?
Oh, by the way, that's so funny.
Oz Perlman, I literally thought the same thing because he was just on Ben's podcast.
But also, yes.
Oh, my God.
It was a really big deal.
He's so fascinating to me.
Did you also see that they're casting for regular?
Like, kind of like Celebrity Big Brother.
It'll be like celebrity, like, celebrity,
and regular.
You're not calling me regular, are you?
No, no, I was just sharing facts.
Like, this is the biggest.
You would be a celebrity, of course.
Cast Jackie.
No, no, but I'm saying.
It'd be crazy if they casted like two people together, like a duo, like the Crisley's or
something.
And like one was a traitor and one wasn't.
You think that they could tell?
They would have, no.
Well, if they could, they could trust each other implicitly, they could work together.
Yeah.
And would that be a good thing?
Yeah, but until a certain point, because either the traders win or the faithfuls win.
Got it.
Oh, interesting.
I would want to be on the same team as you.
Obviously, like, don't cast us if you can't put us at both as traitors or faithfuls.
Yeah.
What would you rather be?
Trader.
Traders get more screen time.
Duh.
That's what Candice was saying.
And I was like, I appreciate her honesty.
But it's a lot of pressure.
Like, when they had to murder in plain sight, like, that's a lot of work.
The faithfuls gets just to sit around on their arms.
It's so fucking true.
Resting on their laurels.
Yeah, they don't even know how good they have it.
I guess what's, like, fueling them is that they don't want to be sent home.
The faithful.
Yeah.
But in order not be sent home.
all you have to do is sit in your house more.
Yeah, which I could do.
Yeah.
Any other thoughts?
No, I just felt sad for Donna.
I'm shocked that they made her.
Oh, what also bothers me about the show is that the entire format of the show is based on producers.
Like, who's going to be a trader is because producers choose, right?
So it's like, what is the criteria for, it's not earned really?
No, I do feel like at this point, it's random.
Because if you do what they did in years past, you would try and find, like, the Dolores.
But I think.
Was Dolores a traitor?
I don't remember.
But I mean, I don't know.
But I think that they really try to switch it up.
But it's like on the one hand,
Lisa Rina and Donna are like the two most obvious traitors
because Donna is like you want to put her in your show.
She has this great cover.
Even though now watching all of her scenes back,
all she had to say was I'm such a big fan of everyone.
Like that she was obvious.
No, in hindsight it's so obvious.
In hindsight, it's so obvious.
And then Lisa Rina also actress, you know, villain, will do whatever.
They should not have made Donna a traitor, secret or otherwise.
And then also,
Making her a secret traitor was so unfair because it's so isolating for her.
And it's this new thing.
I think she already felt probably isolated.
She's the only one who's coming on is not part of like a pack as a housewife or a gamer
with a community.
And she's like alone.
And then she's a traitor but alone.
At least the traitors like have each other.
That was not fair.
You know what I am looking forward to like murdering face to face.
Like I do think whoever gets murdered is going to be shocked.
Oh, so it ended on a cliffhanger.
Who do you think will be murdered between Caroline Stanberry?
They had good reasonings.
Kristen, yeah.
I think it'll be someone random.
I don't like how in their, you know, what do they call it up at the top of the power?
They only talk about the reasons why they should murder someone.
They never say why they shouldn't murder someone.
So I really think it's between Eric and Kristen.
I think if they murder, they're like, Rob would be good because it's random.
No, if you murder Rob, then Ron, sorry, then you will know that everyone who was like around,
like who said the same things as him, like Michael, are all.
also not traitors and that gives them people too many clues. So to say that, don't say it would be good
because it's random. It wouldn't be good, period. Yeah. And I do think like the whole housewives
protecting housewives, like they should take out Caroline because then it kind of. I think they
should take out Kristen. Because she's so random or because she's smart and like she's smart and she's
not like being entertaining on my show. Oh, well that's the other thing. Girl, get off my screen.
So Kristen or Eric. But taking out Eric doesn't do anything for them. Yeah.
Um, taking out Ron.
Eric is the type of person who would win because he's so boring.
If they save Ron, it really makes him look like a traitor.
Yeah.
That's another faithful kill.
Because he's already been, yeah.
He will not kill Ron, thankfully for me.
But like say that in the tour.
Don't say, it's random.
It's good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Unless like, am I playing the game better than everyone?
Maybe you would be good.
I don't like games.
I don't like games.
She doesn't like games.
Cast Claudia in traitors.
Yeah.
And you can use my original music.
You can license it for free.
How about that?
Would you do traders?
Yeah.
The Scottish countryside is beautiful.
This time of year.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The show's huge.
And that's the other thing.
I think people realized like they saw it literally made a star out of so many people last
season like Dylan Afron, Gabby Wendy.
And I think people also are like, maybe you think like a little Michael Rappaport too.
Like you're trying to make an impression.
Like this is almost like an audition.
Yeah.
The thing about Michael Rappaport is you can say that about anyone.
What I like about Michael Rappaport is you actually can't say that about him.
He can't help but be himself.
Yeah, yeah.
He's not putting on.
Like he can't, if he could, he would sit back and shut up.
Yeah.
But he can't.
Yeah, yeah.
And that's interesting to watch.
Yeah.
And it's very authentic.
Yes.
And that is the year of authenticity.
You guys, that is our show.
That's our Traders recap.
We'll be recapping Traders probably every Friday, right?
It's one episode.
Yeah.
Yeah, and Fridays feel like a good time.
Love that.
Unless we can get screeners, then we can recap it on Thursdays.
No, but then the people haven't seen yet.
I know, but that's what like people do.
No, no, it's not.
Like you literally can't, unless you release your episode at 10 p.m.
You can't.
You're spoiling it.
You can't.
I don't want to spoil it.
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