The Toast - May The Dumbest Faithful Win: Monday, January 12th, 2026

Episode Date: January 12, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:09 It's Jackson, Claude and every show the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off, swirly. It's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy Monday. Hope everybody's having a hard delicious definition kicking off to their week. Hey, Jax, how you turn? During Good.
Starting point is 00:00:32 Second week of the new year sitting in Koji's Corner. Welcome to Koji's Corner. I think everyone always says, like, you guys should do another podcast. I like, Clubman and Recap podcast. Mm-hmm. Koji's Corner is what the world needs, and I think it would be nominated for a Golden Globe, just saying. And that's how Koji sees it.
Starting point is 00:00:50 Yes, I did watch the Golden Globes. I watched, it's actually amazing what I was able to accomplish this weekend just as like a regular girl. I spent so much time with my family. I spent time outside. I watched everything on Planet Earth. It's amazing, like what I was personally able to accomplish. Like in wake windows, in nap windows,
Starting point is 00:01:06 I should really receive some sort of motherhood and business owner award. For all the TV that you watch. Yes. People we meet on vacation, the movie. I watched all three episodes of Traders. I watched The Golden Globes. I would say I made it about 60%. I also watched Shaz of Sunset. I'm refusing to call it the Valley Persian style because that's a bad name and the show already had a name. It's called the Shaz of Sunset, any show ever made. I watched so much. I'm so prepared to be seated here with you today. I watched half of Shaz of Sunset Persian style in the valley doing Persian in the valley. Yeah, Persia Valley style. I liked it in general, but it was really crazy to watch. watch it like this weekend. Like just very lot. Yes, that's true. They're always talking about the geopolitical climate of Iran. The show just starts saying like a lot of Persians and the Iranians move to LA during the revolution. And and it's like they're unreliolizing right now. I actually think that they will end up covering it next season because one thing about the Shahs like they're not going to shy away from uncomfortable conversations about geopolitical issues about religion. Like they went
Starting point is 00:02:08 well they tried to. They couldn't go to Iran but they went to Israel actually. And then like like walked up to the border and they went to Turkey too. Maybe they'll go. If I ran becomes free, they will go. Oh my God, brand trip. Brand trip. But I feel like the old Shaz very much went there all the time every day. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:26 I've only watched half of this first season, but I feel like times have changed and like they're not going to do that as much. Well, I do feel like the show was ahead of its time, the original show Shaz of Sunset. Yes, I don't see them going like super deep. But one thing about like Rezos, like he's going to do what he wants. He's kind of an amazing reality. star in the sense like he actually doesn't give a fuck like he will talk about things that he wants to talk about yeah um the show like did have that valley edit like spice which
Starting point is 00:02:53 like I didn't like like I don't know just like boring valley do you know what I don't know just like that's like the point I know but the thing about the shaws is like they're not like anyone else so trying to put them in a show like shaz I'm too I'm too close to it obviously like I was obsessed with the original show and this new show is good I'm glad we have Mercedes like the OGs but I don't know them trying to give it like the Lala Ken edit. I don't know. It's just not working. Yeah. Well, I've only seen, I'm just getting acquainted. Oh, and to be clear, I saw one episode. Right.
Starting point is 00:03:19 I'm still meeting everyone, so I'm not like calling it or anything, but I enjoyed what I did watch. Me too. And I watched Traders, all three episodes. Same. We will do. But I'm glad that I did because now I'm like, I care. Yep. I have so many thoughts about the show and the format and this season in particular, but I know I'm going to like frustrate people with what I have to say about the format. Well, we're going to do our fifth and final story is an official traitors recap. So in case you're not caught up, we're going to save it all for that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Now, can I tell you to watch people we meet on vacation? Did you read that book? I did. I didn't like the book, but I've heard that the movie is very good. So people feel one of two ways. I think if you're like really like it's your favorite book ever, then you hate the movie just because you're too close to it. And I can't, honestly, I can't take your opinion seriously because I'm judging the
Starting point is 00:04:01 movie as a movie. I read the book years ago. Do I remember all the nuances? No. I just remember that they take a trip every year and they're obviously in love, but they they pretend like they're not. The movie was so stupid. Of course. I hate when people...
Starting point is 00:04:12 Like, I fight love. No, not only that. At your big age, like, you're not able to identify a feeling. Like, you obviously like him. And you have a straight woman. You have a straight male best friend who you love, you travel with, you do everything with. Like, you're married. Get married. Every time, like, your romantic partner or his romantic partner comes on a trip, it ends in disaster. Because, like, everyone can sense the feelings between the two of you. Both of your partners hate the other person because you're obviously in love.
Starting point is 00:04:36 I just, I hate that shit. And you're wasting other people's time. And you're literally 30 at this point. You do have to suspend disbelief. You have to not be a smart person to just read the book and enjoy it. I thought the book was extremely mid. I remember being like, oh, this is a book everyone's talking about. Like, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:04:49 And that it launched Emily Henry. Like Emily Henry is like a colleague every time she has a book, it's like, who's going to get the rights? And it's a bit bestseller. And I happen to believe she's an industry plant. Like she writes like very, very mid, like low. Like low. But people like mid.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Yeah. Low IQ individuals. Yeah. No, no. But like, and I read mid low IQ books sometimes because it's comforting to just like, read something where I don't have to, my brain doesn't have to work hard. Yeah, but this book sort of launched. That all sounded very insulting, but like I didn't mean any of it as an insult to any of.
Starting point is 00:05:18 I wasn't, as a low IQ individual, I was not insulting. We're like the authors who write for them. They know what, listen, there's a cover for every pot. There's an audience for every writer. Not every book needs to be Da Vinci Code. Barbara Kingsolver. Not every book can be deep. Well, that's true.
Starting point is 00:05:34 So having said all of that, I was just watching this movie, like as a movie. I knew a little bit about the book. I thought it was adorable. Like it was super cute. Have you heard about this thing called Netflix lighting? No. So they say now if you watch like a movie from like the early 2000s and a movie now, like you can tell that they were made in different times because every movie now has this
Starting point is 00:05:52 thing called Netflix lighting. And I don't like I don't know how to describe it, but I know what they're talking about. Like all movies look the same now. They look like TV shows. Like they just look like they were made on Netflix, you know? I guess, but also like technology has changed. Yeah, but it's also more like an aesthetic than like technology. Like it's still all high quality.
Starting point is 00:06:09 it just looks Netflix. Okay. And I thought that this movie really had Netflix lighting because I just learned about the phenomenon and I was really focused on that the whole time. Do we have Netflix lighting? No, I would say
Starting point is 00:06:18 we're so different and unique, you know? Yeah. Netflix couldn't handle it. We have sort of like startup, industrial, Maverick lighting. Yeah, very much like boots, like, you know, bootstrap.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Bootsrap. Maverick. Maverick. Mavric. I feel the lighting is very maverick. Yeah, kind of renegate. Navar. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:42 And both of the actors who were cast, I feel like when books get turned into movies, there's so much fan casting. Like, I want Sabrina Carpenter to play. And they picked two randoms, two nobodies. I'd never heard of either of these people in my life. And they were such good actors. Like, bring back acting good.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Do you know what I mean? I feel like with the Golden Globes, Britney Snow was there. And it was a reminder to me that the Hunting Wads was nominated for something, which is so crazy. Like, it was a bad show with bad acting that we loved because it was bad.
Starting point is 00:07:08 And I feel like people who mean on vacation remind me Like you don't have to act bad Like you can be good at acting And you can also like cast new people Who are good actors, not everyone I read those two like unknown people To me I think they were Like studios like try and get people
Starting point is 00:07:25 With like big social media followings And it's just like it's so lame I'm not watching your movie because you told Like I'll watch a movie Because I want to see the movie Cast the right people for the job please A thousand percent Like influencers can stay influence
Starting point is 00:07:38 influencers. Big casting news. I don't know if you saw. They have cast Rapunzel live action. People really thought it was going to be Sabrina Carpenter as punsy. Isn't she being Alice in Wonderland? Oh, is she? Well, she's so Rapunzel. She's being something. Well, she's not Rapunzel. I believe it was a no name. I didn't know her. And then Milo Mannheim is Flynn Ryder. Does that mean anything to you? Milo Mannheim from Dancing with the Stars. From Dancing with the Stars fame. And I was like, oh, well, he surely must have done something after Dancing with the Stars because he's, you know, got this role. And when I was really, you know, reading like the variety article.
Starting point is 00:08:09 It was like Milo Mannheim of Dancing with the Stars fame. No, I swear. But he's in Naked Brothers Band. Is he? Like, I don't know him besides. And he's like in a couple movies like Home Again, you know? He's one of those guys like Nate. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:20 You're thinking of Nate and Alex Wolf who are in Home Again and the Naked Brothers Band. He is Milo Manheim Wolf. He's their stepbrother. He's not, but I would like to. He's one of them. Is he? He's of that elk. I get a lot of DMs asking me like what?
Starting point is 00:08:37 they've forgotten what word I'm like supposed to be using instead of elk and I just want to let you guys know like I use elk but I know the real word is ilk in case you're like in a serious situation you need to know the actual word it's ilk I-L-K So Milo Mannheim's brother is Cameron Mannheim No but he's in stuff with the wolf brothers
Starting point is 00:08:55 Is he? For sure For sure Like I feel that call Thank you I think it's home again Weren't there three guys But I don't think that Milo Manheim was in home again What was stopping him?
Starting point is 00:09:11 Probably dancing with the stars. Milo Manheim movies and TV shows. Let's go. Oh no, people say like Milo Manh... Zombies. What? I love zombies. Yeah, this is like a little Gen Z for me.
Starting point is 00:09:22 I don't know Milo Manheim. Literally just zombies. Cool. At least we're in one thing together. That's kind of crazy. No, and zombies is like one, two, three, and four. It's a... So that's...
Starting point is 00:09:32 You know them from zombies. Well, I have seen zombies one and two. What? Yeah. With the kids? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like when I like to watch descendants, like, I was like, you should watch zombies and it was cute,
Starting point is 00:09:43 but it was no descendants. Got it, got it, got it. But it definitely, like, had Riz. Okay, Riz. And then he's in a bunch of other stuff that I'm sure you guys will shout at me in the comments that he's in, but nothing that I've seen, you know?
Starting point is 00:09:56 So he's from Dancing with the Stars. So if you were going to write, like, he's in Thanksgiving, just write, you girls look beautiful today. If you were going to write anything, just write you girls look beautiful today. Imagine if we just flooded the comments with,
Starting point is 00:10:07 You girls look beautiful today. That would be so sweet. And it's because I had such a productive, well-balanced weekend. Watch the Golden Globes, which we are going to talk about, I assume, in the stories. Kylie was there. Everyone was kind of there. Yeah. It looked like, you know, it looks okay.
Starting point is 00:10:23 Yeah, it looks cool if you're into that sort of thing. I know. And I really, like, was not wanting to watch it because I was just like, there's so many things I could be doing with my Sunday. I'm going to watch this crapola, self-congratiatory. But then I was like, you know, it is my job, and I'm committed to the craft, and I'm sure it'll come up in tomorrow. show. So I did watch it. I went to bed about 10 o'clock and Nikki Glazer said, we're halfway through the show. I said, you're kidding. I just watched, you know, enough. I saw Timothy when I saw the speech. There were a couple of things I needed to say. I need to make sure
Starting point is 00:10:49 Hannah Eindbender lost, which she did, which was great for, you know, the Jewish people. Non-insufferable people everywhere. Mark Ruffalo lost. It was kind of an amazing night for me. And some of my faves did win. Timatee. So we'll get into it. No, I'm trying to think. We're going up, it's out one moment. You know what I? Of course. And they won non-English film as well, the movie.
Starting point is 00:11:16 I know that that song is from a movie. Yeah. Okay, yeah. If they're nominated for anything, everyone else. Oh, no, I'm sorry, they best nominated. They won best animation. It's an animated movie? I guess.
Starting point is 00:11:26 I thought it was a competition show about finding the next K-pop star. Oh, I thought it was like people's, like a teenie, like a descendant, like just like people acting in K-pop. No, I'm pretty sure it's like a fairy, right? Yeah. I didn't know what's animated. She's like a fairy, like Tinkerbell vibe. I didn't know what's animated,
Starting point is 00:11:43 but I just want to say I don't know anything about K-pop demon hunters, except for the song. I completely support K-pop demon hunters. No, and the woman giving the speech, actually almost brought me to tears. She was like, it is so amazing to see, like, this global movie be so widely obsessed and accepted when it's so deeply rooted in Korean culture.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Like, they don't have big moments like that a lot. And she was so proud. And I was proud for it. I was, like, getting choked up. I love K-pop Demon Hunters and I know nothing about it because we're going up in our moment
Starting point is 00:12:12 you know together and also I love and I feel like we said this when that's my register I don't think so when BTS had La in the spot tonight
Starting point is 00:12:23 and it's just like feel good joyful music and that's what K-pop Demon Hunter is like the message is amazing that song is so good like it lifts spirits it bridges generational gaps
Starting point is 00:12:34 I love I also feel like the kids haven't had like had a hit this big. I want to say since. Trolls. Frozen, let it go. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:42 That took over the world. Yeah. You know, there's not there. I feel like, and I'm not into Cape, I feel like it's for like older kids. And it's girly. What is? K-pop demon hunters.
Starting point is 00:12:53 I don't know. I see all the girls dressed up for, for Halloween with the long braid. That's how you know what's in the culture. Like the Halloween costumes, everyone was K-pop Demon Hunters. I'm happy for you guys. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:04 I support it. Yeah. Maybe we should watch it. I didn't know it was animated. That would be weird to watch. Yeah, I have a really low bar for animation. I'm not into. And I know that's like a part of parenthood where it's like you just kind of have to watch these movies.
Starting point is 00:13:14 And I just feel like that's going to be Ben's for like Ben is obsessed with Disney. I'll be in the other room watching reality TV. Like wake me up when it's over. Understood. You know. So yeah, let's get into. Should we get into it? I feel like we didn't fully PFFB.
Starting point is 00:13:28 Rep. Yeah. Piffa. Do you want to tell everyone about the circus? Oh my God. I do. We went to the circus in Miami on Saturday. like with all the kids.
Starting point is 00:13:37 It was like my first outing as like a mom. Like you guys always do stuff like that. And I was so happy to be there. Let me tell you what they don't tell you about the circus. She has some. I actually have so many thoughts and notes. And I feel like it must be really hard for the creative directors. It can be under the Ringling Brothers.
Starting point is 00:13:51 I don't know if there are other ones. So it was the one. It wasn't like a bootlegs. No, no, it was like official. Like Circus. Like Ringling Barnam Bro. And they were saying this. Ain't no party like a Ringling party because a Ringling party
Starting point is 00:14:02 doesn't stop me and your husband. We're not stop saying that. Ain't nobody like a ringling party because a ringling party. because a ringling, but I don't stop. And I have so many thoughts. I do feel sad for whoever's job it is to come up with the songs and the choreography and stuff.
Starting point is 00:14:13 It must be really, really hard for them to not tap into the greatest showman soundtrack. There must be a reason why they don't, whether it's too expensive to clear, because I felt really stupid being there, not listening to any, and they couldn't even, they need to rewrite the stars for trapeas. They need the opener to be the greatest showman tour.
Starting point is 00:14:29 And Zach was just like, well, they just need to do a greatest showman tour for kids. Like, it doesn't need to be the wringling. It would be nice if they, all like I just felt so stupid. I was sitting there being like whoa whoa now I do believe like woke culture sorry not to sound like Bill Maher woke culture has ruined the circus and I'm actually down you know I don't I don't wish long for the days where we're like you know abusing animals
Starting point is 00:14:52 like staring at the freaks um so I just feel like the circus like needs to end and it's like what are you showcasing if not the things that you used to showcase at the circus which I'm not nobody wants to see that no and I'm not and I'm Because I'm not saying like that it's bad that woke culture. Like that's where woke slayed, you know? Like we don't need to be doing that. But what goes on at the circus, if not that? I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:15:16 What did you guys go for actually? So there was like a fake dog, like a robot dog. It was like actually stupid. Trapeze, acrobatts, trampolines. That's the thing. It's just two hour show. There was an intermission. And that's like Cirque de Soleil.
Starting point is 00:15:30 How do they differentiate themselves? The trapeze was really amazing. Like real, like I was awestruck. The kids at that point, I think we're like really over it. I was like, wait, we're just getting started. Some of the other tricks were like cool, unicycle. I don't know. I just feel like as a society, we have moved past the need for a circus.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Although I hate to cut children's programming for the arts, you know? I feel like, you know, Ms. Darbis, the arts are so important. But I do feel like the circus needs to evolve. And that's on them to figure out. I know. And that's on the greatest showman. That's on Passick and Paul. The greatest showman can barely get their musical theater production on Broadway off the ground.
Starting point is 00:16:04 They're not taking on a way. world tour. So that's why Ringling Brothers should collaborate with Greatest Women. I didn't go to the circus because I was home with Max. So like I missed all of this. Yeah. And I forgot to fill you in. And this is probably not a reflection. But I heard my husband on the phone on my desk. He was like catching up with friends and family. Like I heard the sound bite over and over again. The circus is not what it used to be. And your husband like could knock it over the fact that there were no clowns. Yeah. Which I guess are clowns canceled? I think they're considered really spooky. Like it's not family friendly if there are clowns. Clowns like most kids are afraid of.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Yeah. I'm not... Oh, and to be clear, I'm not the only person who thought this way. The arena was less than 50% full. I thought we got there early. Now, this is more of a reflection on this arena, the Casaya Arena, more so than the Ringling Brothers. Let me tell you some of the best food I've ever had from... I had this fucking hot pretzel.
Starting point is 00:16:51 And I'm from New York City. Like, I know good hot pretzels. The best pretzel I've ever had in my entire life. Like, the Zepound could not stop me from housing this fucking pretzel. And I had to eat it behind the kids because kids were like just getting like little popcorn. And I was like, little popcorn. literally hiding behind a chair like we were at Fat Camp eating this fucking pretzel. It was so delicious, like so salty, so soft.
Starting point is 00:17:12 It was literally disintegrate. It felt like cotton candy. Like it was fucking amazing. And everyone agreed. Oh, wow. Looks like we have to take in a heat game at the Cats Eye Arena. Oh, Katzai. No, that's.
Starting point is 00:17:21 That's a demon hunters. I think it's called the Casaya arena, something like that. Casaya, yeah. Yeah. This pretzel was so good, you guys. It's like I haven't, like, that's what I came home and talked to people about, not the music or anything. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:35 And they were just playing like Doja Cat and like popular music. It felt weird. It felt weird. No, like, hey, G2 rock around to rock around that's right. All time is tricky. Like love run DMC. At the circus, I don't know. It just, it didn't matter.
Starting point is 00:17:49 They should have played. Of course not. Like nothing. It was really weird. And then I got to thinking about the performers. You know, of course, as an empath. Who are they? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:58 Where do they come from? As an empath, I couldn't know, but look at these people. I wonder, how do you become a performer on the circus? Like, it's not like they live in Miami. Like, they're travel. the you know they're off to north carolina um and what's it like to be in the traveling circus and is it like is that your stated goal or is it you know you were a gymnast and now you're doing circus and then you're going to you know you go on to do other things like so we were actually
Starting point is 00:18:23 pipeline we were discussing that as well your husband and i about how a lot of them especially in the trapeze were probably on some sort of Olympic track at one point because they were that sophisticated in there on disney on ice so Olivia was being such a fucking no-it-all. She's so funny. Like when it started, like, we just knew it wasn't going to be, like, amazing. And she was like, we have to go to Disney on Ice. She was like, she was just being like that mom who's like done it all already. And I'm new here. She was like, have you seen Disney on Ice? I'm like, why the fuck would I have seen Disney on Ice? And she was like, it's so much better. Like, you really have to go see it. And I was like, okay, like, take me.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Well, the thing is like Disney on Ice has a lot to pull from. Right. Right. A lot of material. Yeah. And really like they, they sort of just rest on their laurels of Pard G. The soundtrack, too. But there's not, but there's not like, there's not like, there's The circus has to have to do so many things. Even if they slayed unicycles, like, okay, and everyone's like, what's next? It's like, the circus can never be doing enough. No, and I do want to say about the unicycles. I feel like I use them as an example.
Starting point is 00:19:15 They actually were really good. I saw a video of them jumping on a trampoline on unicycle. And that wasn't even the most impressive part. Like, we were really, and when I tell you, the kids, like, could not have cared last. There was a big screen, like, playing the music. And the kids were just watching the screen. It was two hours of screen time. Literally.
Starting point is 00:19:28 No one told me that. Never again. It was two hours of screen time. You're a lie. No, no, I'm totally kidding. They went to a movie. But they did have a big screen. As they should.
Starting point is 00:19:36 To, like, you know, show what's happening on the floor in case you're up in the risers. They didn't watch the live show. They watched the screen. They were just, like, sort of, like, looking at everything. Sure. Yeah. Sure. So I went to the circus.
Starting point is 00:19:48 Great. Yeah. Wouldn't recommend, but you had a nice time. I don't know. If you're looking for, like, you know. I love a, you know, a children's activity where we're seated. Yeah. You know, a lot of these, you know, motherhood, parent activities are physically laborious.
Starting point is 00:20:01 And I'm just not at a stage in my life where I can be, like, squatting and rolling around. You know music class, like the sitting on the floor, it kills me. My legs fall asleep. My back is broken. I'm hunched over like an actual. Like one of those chairs, like a cozy creek, thousand percent. Or like a soccer mom chair. Like, but you need to be on the floor. So I know. The sitting at music class, like, it's, I'm almost like at my limit. Like I can't do music class anymore. She literally just started. So to be clear, I really like seated affairs. So I'm not going to clown on the circus. And anytime you guys want to go to like a ticketed event where
Starting point is 00:20:31 we're sitting, I'm down. Yeah. Okay. Great. Well, thank you. And yeah, consider. I just feel like me giving a negative review. Is that going to be like the final nail in the coffin for wringling? Like, I feel bad. No, no. I think there's so much potential. Yeah. You know, and agreed people love children's programming. Disney and I sells out so quick because we're looking for things like that to do. Right. And so Jackie was literally empty. Yeah, I could see that in some of the video. Consider partnership with the greatest showman. Don't consider. Pursue. actively. And anything can be
Starting point is 00:21:05 renewed and reinvigorated. It's true. You know? Yeah. Yeah. You guys have such amazing brand. Just because you can't beat this shit out of elephants. Doesn't mean you can't put on a good show. It doesn't mean you have anything to begin with. No, and it's like try a little harder, honestly. Yeah. Embrace your inner PT. He would have figured it out. Okay, so there was a character named PT. I heard of a dragon named PT. Yeah. And there was also like a DJ and there was like a girl. Like she was like
Starting point is 00:21:27 show running the whole thing. She was cute. Yeah, I don't know. The thing is the point of the circus that gets to entertain. So you're saying you can't entertain us? That's not true. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I feel bad.
Starting point is 00:21:40 Yeah. I feel like maybe some of them were like college cheerleaders too because you know they talked in cheer about how like there's no professional career for a college cheerleader. Like collegiate is the highest level that you can perform and then you have to what? Like go work in marketing. Um, so maybe some of them join the circus. And actually.
Starting point is 00:21:58 Like when you said like you run off and join the circus like that used to mean something else. It used to mean you're crazy. No, but like when you just said like they'll just join this. Actually, you know what? I was really surprised by it. Now it means like you're a touring artist. I guess, yeah. A lot of the performers were Asian and I think that a lot of, um, the like dancing and choreograph style is inspired by like Asian martial arts because it was like a lot of jumping. And that was impressive. That was impressive. And I wasn't expecting that. So it sounds like what they need is like better packaging, like better songs and like they need better music. Yeah. And. And, showmanship. They've got the talent. They've got the stuff. Like one of the hosts was
Starting point is 00:22:37 literally Ryan from high school musical. Like I couldn't not see it. He was like having the time of his life. It was cute. It was cute. You know, if you're into that sort of thing. Okay. Well, now I think we got further ado. Let's get into the fast five stories that you do need to know. And the fast five stories that you need to know are brought to you by Bearbells. Are you like one of the many Americans who are making get more protein in as their 2026 New Year's resolution? Well, if you are, you need bear bells, the protein bar that puts taste first while bringing you 15 to 20 grams of protein in every bar. Honestly, when I first tried one, I could not believe how, like, Pargy, the nutritional facts were.
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Starting point is 00:27:37 Yes, I drive Humble Brag and I drive a car by myself, and that's something that I can do. That's great. Whilst listening to a monologue. Yeah, that's crazy. And I thought it was hysterical. I laughed out loud so many times. Yeah, she is just great at this. And I think it's like a really delicate balance
Starting point is 00:27:51 because she's like known for roasting. And sometimes when you come on and roast, it gets uncomfortable. And so it really is like a perfect balance of being funny, being snarky, roasting people in a way that's like not mean, not going to offend anyone. I don't think anybody took anything like too to heart
Starting point is 00:28:05 because she didn't say anything that mean except to Kevin Hart. And like she knows him personally. You could tell. I thought she was great. She brings everything. She has the wit, the snark. But she also had like maybe like six or seven outfit.
Starting point is 00:28:15 it changes and she just kept looking like more amazing. Every time she walked out, they made her, she made them play a Taylor Swift song. Joe Alwyn was in the audience. Like just seriously, that's our girl. That's our girl. And I feel like for the next couple of years, we don't need to give this job to anyone else. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I haven't like seen anything of any, you know, awkward moment.
Starting point is 00:28:34 No. The monologue. Oh, except there was this like song. I didn't like it. And it was like cute at the end because they brought Fran Dresher out. And like she made like, oh, your voice is in a wing. Ha, ha, like it was funny. But, um, that, that, um, that was.
Starting point is 00:28:45 One thing where she just did karaoke to Golden from K-pop Demon Hunters, but she changed the words and were, like, I didn't like that. But was it, like, offensive and awkward or just not funny and not your favorite? It wasn't offensive at all. It wasn't like a Joe Koi. No, I feel like they had just come back from break. People were still, like, standing and she's, like, dancing. And everyone's, like, schmoozing. It was, like, that was the only low point.
Starting point is 00:29:05 It just didn't hit, but, like, it wasn't. Bad or offensive, no. Great. It didn't hit. I think she should get the job again next year. And I would imagine that she will. I would imagine that she will, too. It is the hardest worst job and she executes flawlessly every time.
Starting point is 00:29:20 No, she's putting everyone on notice because it's like you can do this job. Maybe it's not the hardest worst job. Maybe if you're just a funny person, like it's doable. That's a really good point. Because for so long we're like, it's a thankless job. There's no funny jokes to make with the people in the room. Two years in a row, funny jokes, the audience is laughing, the people are laughing. It's a job that can be done.
Starting point is 00:29:41 Now, I thought that the Golden Globes were so interesting because obviously it's a movie. and TV. And like, I feel like I don't ever really have issues with, like, who they nominated. Like, yeah, it's all the good popular shows. But there are, like, fringe categories that I find really interesting. Of course, last night was the first time they did podcasts. They also do stand-up comedy. And I was really shocked because I had not heard
Starting point is 00:30:00 of one of the comedy specials that was nominated. Did you know Kumail Nanjiani had a special? No, but like... Sarah Silverman had a special. Bill Maher had a special. Ricky Jervais was nominated, and he won, and yeah, sure, he released his specials
Starting point is 00:30:15 lot. So, like, I would assume that he had one. I was shocked. I had literally never heard of any of these specials. I just feel like they totally missed the mark on, that's not the specials people were talking about this year. The ones, you know, it's like more like internet, but like the, the big podcasters, Andrew Schultz, like, that's who people talk about. Yeah, I can't say I'm up on the specials these days because I'm really not either. There are so many specials. I've kind of like exited my era of watching so many, of watching the specials. I feel like people have moved on from comedy specials. Maybe that's like a hot take, but I feel like there were a couple of years where it was like comedy specials. Or maybe at least for me. Like, and I feel like maybe there was a time
Starting point is 00:30:54 where I was like comedy, you know, and I was like following more comedian. And someone really has to have a great hook if I'm going to sit down and watch your special or like been through. I feel like we watched Ellen's or attempted to. Right. Because of like, what is she said? You know? And so when there's not that it's just like, here's another special about the last year of my life. Right. If I don't follow you that closely to begin with, I don't care. I don't care. And then the ones that like made. waves like that I heard about were just none of these. Yeah. Like Golden Globes is a little antiquated giving it to like these old school comedians and it's like yeah, well you might have had a good special but no one's talking about it. Yeah. Yeah. I guess the only special I watched last
Starting point is 00:31:26 year that I can remember and it's because you just said it was Andrew Schultz. Right, right. But I'm yeah, maybe there's another one but you didn't say it so I don't remember it. And then with the podcasts, you know what I didn't even realize. I loved, first of all, like them doing a podcast category. I'm like seriously obsessed and I'm so happy Amy one. I've actually done like a total 180 on Amy because I really respected that she got up there and was like I'm new here it's such a sleigh that she has been podcasting the shortest and won like that's huge um and I didn't even realize like the geopolitical climate of her being nominated up against her ex-husband will Rnett from smart list and I'm so glad they lost um but every single one nominated was an interview show I didn't even
Starting point is 00:32:03 realize that I didn't know if Mel Robbins but she does she just interviews people um I don't know like what about justice for the scripted shows you know there are other types of shows oh I I feel like if you're going to get into scripted shows, that's a different category. Well, yes, then it's a, then it is a podcast award show. If you're going into genre. Which we've been needing. And I actually think the more celebrity podcasts there are, like the more there is a need for the potties. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:27 Because like people, they like to do award shows around celebrities. There is a need for the parties. They're like, oh, we don't need an award show for you, Slob. Yeah. So for that reason, this is a great start. I'm looking at everyone who was nominated. What's up first? NPR.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Is that, but not the daily? It's like the daily, but the daily didn't get nominated. So there was a very specific criteria as well for who could have even been selected for a nomination. What was the criteria? You had to be one of the top 25 podcasts. So there's only 25 you could have chosen from. That feels right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:00 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? Yeah. And I'm not mad about Amy winning. I think it's crazy that she's been doing it. It's crazy. But like, the Golden Globes just represent the year of the arts. So, like, who, they don't care that you didn't podcast.
Starting point is 00:33:12 podcast in 2024. Right. Objection relevance. Not their problem. Yeah. So her 2025 year was better than everyone else's according to the Golden Globes.
Starting point is 00:33:19 I hope like... Better than the toast, but as we said, it was an interview thing. I hope like GigiHQ feels good about the inclusion of podcast categories. I hope they would do it again.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Like I really, I think it's so good for the medium. It's such a, it's such a sign of respect. It's very exciting. It is. And I think in this case, I'm happy,
Starting point is 00:33:36 I'm glad for celebrities that like, they're the ones moving the ball on this. They really give us a platform. They gave us a platform. They gave us. platform they uplifted these voices so let's get into the winner shall we yeah sorry um oh do you have like a best dress oh i wasn't watching that closely but i thought jennifer lawrence that was my best rest
Starting point is 00:33:55 she looked amazing kiley was amazing but seriously kiley could wear anything it's just kiley is there right she also didn't walk the carpet so like i don't know if we can really include her it's like i need to see a red carpet photo yeah so here are the winners of the major categories um this usually doesn't mean anything to me, but this year more than ever, I've never even heard of some of these. It means less and less. It means so little. Yeah. Best drama was Hamnet.
Starting point is 00:34:19 Yeah. And I... It's not Hamlet with a typo. That's what Nikki Glazer. They did a segment. It was like, oh, let's see the trending searches, what people are looking up. How to spell Hamlet. Oh, that's funny.
Starting point is 00:34:29 Or something like that. Yeah. It was funny. Her joke about Hamnet. Spanx. So that Hamlet beat out Frankenstein. It was just an accident. That's the name of a movie.
Starting point is 00:34:40 It was just an accident. the secret agent, sentimental value, and sinners. I've heard of sinners. And they won box office achievement. Haley Stainfield was there with her bump. Michael B. Jordan was there looking sexy. A funny Nikki Blazer joke was I saw Wicked 2 for money. hilarious.
Starting point is 00:34:58 And they cut to Ariana Grande at that moment. She did laugh. I was in my car, so I didn't get to watch. The reactions. The reactions. Because I'm the safe driver. Oh, and the Leonardo DiCaprio bit was actually very funny and very true. I was thinking.
Starting point is 00:35:09 I'm like, she made a joke about his girlfriend. I'm like, I feel like she's smarter than that. Like, we're so played out. Like, 25-year-old girlfriend. And she was like, and I have to make that joke because we literally know nothing else about you. And it's like, yes, actually. Like, what does Leo like?
Starting point is 00:35:20 Yeah. Besides 25-year-old girls. Best comedy or musical. One battle after another. So that was Leo's movie, Guillermo del Guillermo. Guillermo. And that's who he went on New Heights with to promote that movie.
Starting point is 00:35:35 Okay. That's, yeah, that was just, that's my limited knowledge. Giammo del Toro? I feel like it's not gearmore. Benizio del Toro. Are they brothers? Or maybe he's Adele something else.
Starting point is 00:35:46 I don't think he's a Del Toro. Yeah, Benizio Del Blank. He looks like Brad Pitt, by the way. I thought it was Brad Pitt. Did you? I saw a picture like from the party and someone was like hugging someone that looked like Brad Pitt. So I went to look.
Starting point is 00:35:58 I'm like, he's hugging Brad Pitt. Right. Benetio. Oh, and I have one more thing to say about the... Wait, what's his name? Del Toro. Not brothers, no relation. I have something else to say. I feel like this is going to be really unpopular.
Starting point is 00:36:09 opinion. I thought Nikki's bit about George Cludey. I mean to ask you something. My Natsprezzo. Hysterical. You didn't watch, but like the Fibisina on Amal. Like, girl, smile, you're on camera. Claudia, I was wondering what she was going to say. I have a question I went after. I thought it was going to be like something vulgar. Or like, you know, cast me in your movie. Like, hilarious. My net sprette. Like, Amal had such a mug. I was like, girl, you're at the Golden Globes. Live a little. Let your hair down. Like calling out people for their sponsors. It's so funny.
Starting point is 00:36:43 So funny. I didn't even know he's the face of Nitzspretz. You didn't even see his commercials? Not really. Oh my God. It's all over. Maybe because they know they already got me. I have a Nets breads.
Starting point is 00:36:54 Yeah, right. You're the target demographic reach. Target check. Right. Okay. Now Best Actor in a Drama. Wagner for the Secret Agent. Okay.
Starting point is 00:37:04 Congratulations, Wagner. Love you. Best actress in a drama. Jesse Buckley. Hamlet. Okay. Congratulations, Jesse. Best non-English language film, The Secret Agent. I didn't know that was a non-English language film as I read this list. You learned something new every day. Best animated film, K-pop Demon Hunters. So cute. And you know what? I guess it wasn't like a stacked year because
Starting point is 00:37:32 the only other movie I've heard of is Utopia 2. Right. And that's really because of dancing with the stars. Right. Robert Irwin. And I am a mama. Right. And I don't know these. So, yeah. They would have won regardless.
Starting point is 00:37:45 They would have gone regardless. But they could have swept anything. Yeah. Best director, Paul Thomas Anderson, one battle or another. So Judd Apatow gave out this award. Okay. And he did this bit that was so crazy. I don't know what the reaction was.
Starting point is 00:38:02 Please sign off the comments. Did you like it? I thought it was like so, hey, look at me. Like, it was just. He was just being like, well, they obviously asked me to give out the word for best director because they think I'm, like, the best director ever. And like, I'm the best.
Starting point is 00:38:16 And it was just like, kind of. Has he ever won? I don't know. It was just like kind of girly. Like, I don't know. I really did not like it. And he's like, I want to think my muse, Leslie. And like, I was just like, can you stop?
Starting point is 00:38:29 Oh, also I need to talk about J-Lo. He's thanking his muse, Leslie, though he hasn't won anything. Right. That was like the joke. Like, I'm, look, I feel like I won because I've been asked to give this a one. I guess it's like girly because it's like unsurious and that's how like that's girl humor. Yeah, it's just like I'm the best. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:38:46 And it's like yucky. I don't know. I really didn't like it. I understand. But I could see people being like Judd Abid. I was so funny. Well, they definitely have like Judd goggles on those people. Like some people are just like Judd Apologist.
Starting point is 00:38:56 Yeah. And he did say, which I thought was actually not cool. He was talking about like people in the room and he was like and Seth Rogan left because he won his award. And then Joe Rogan's. What's the same? Judd-Avital said that he had left. And I thought that was actually really uncool. Like, everybody was in the room seated for your award.
Starting point is 00:39:15 What about the person at the very end? Uncool that Seth left. Yeah. Uncool that Judge said it. I don't give a fuck. Like, the fact that he left, I don't know. I thought that was really lame. I think Seth Rogan is lame.
Starting point is 00:39:25 Yeah, of course. But now I have like a really good reason. Like, I just thought it was not cool. Like, you got everyone to stand up for you and like not be seat fillers, right? Like, it's just rude. Yeah. I thought it was rude. Best actor in a comedy or musical
Starting point is 00:39:41 Our boy Timothy Shalome For Marty Supreme Now we got a very small Kylie Yeah We got a Kylie reference But not like what we got Of the critics choice
Starting point is 00:39:50 I feel like actually also really liked his speech About how he just Was really raised by his dad To be like so grateful for everything And that's how in years past He's come to this award ceremony And left empty hand and like Not been upset about it
Starting point is 00:40:03 Like felt so grateful And that this just means so much more and, you know, thanking everybody at the film, Josh Shafti, yada, yada, O'Dessa, the cast, the crew, and my partner, I love you. No, Kylie. My parents and my partner, I love you. So now she's, like, in that category. He can't have said the same thing that he said two weeks ago, like, boring.
Starting point is 00:40:22 But he said partner again. Yeah, but, like, she is part of his unit. Yeah, and the, yeah. And I'm waiting for the Oscar speech. Like, that's the big one. Oh, right. So I think it's pretty clear. Like, he has a, like, more than ever has a real.
Starting point is 00:40:36 chance and I do think I might have to tune into the Oscars for that reason. However, he'll be up against, really, because there's two categories. Yes, it's easier to win the Golden Globe because they split the movies into categories. So Wagner Moore won best actor in a drama. So it's Timothy versus Wagner. He needs to look out for Wagner. Yeah. That's all I'm saying. Yeah. Cinematic and boxed off achievement, sinners, best actress in a musical or comedy, Rose Byrne, if I had legs, I'd kick you. Oh, okay. She was like shook because she's in like some like a random independent Josh Saffty film. Like the Josh Safty film is Marty Supreme And she was there like on this like art film
Starting point is 00:41:10 She had no clue she was going to win I was wondering if she was still married to Bobby Canne Valley And then she said Bobby I love you He couldn't be here tonight I wasn't sure if she was joking He couldn't be here tonight because we're purchasing a A what A bearded dragon and he's like at this expo in New Jersey
Starting point is 00:41:25 Now it was just so specific That I thought like it was the truth Because she had such details What's a bearded dragon? Like a pet? Like a lizard yeah Oh is it? Yeah
Starting point is 00:41:36 Pet lizard. You know. So I just, did anybody else know if she was serious or joking? And I love Roseburn. She's so underrated. I think a bearded dragon and it's a pet lizard. How do you know that? How do you know that?
Starting point is 00:41:47 Is that a known thing? Yeah, I think it's known. You guys are free. I don't know. It sounds like you're the free. The world. Like, why is that a bearded dragon? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:41:56 I don't know how to make up the rules. Oh my God. I see bearded dragons every day. Yeah. Well, you see iguanas every day. No, I see lizards. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I always take a picture sent it to Margo.
Starting point is 00:42:05 That's how like I know she's with me. I didn't ever heard of this or whatever, but Roseburn's amazing actress, so yeah, I love her. Give it to her. If it wasn't going to be for Annie, it should be for this. And I feel like she really did not think she was going to win. Like she brought her brother like as her date. Like I think if she had a real chance, like her husband would have been there.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Yeah. The only other buzzy one that I saw was best supporting actress, Teana Taylor for one battle after. Yes, she really was shook. She did not know she was going to win. She gave a great speech. She looked gorgeous. I think most notably.
Starting point is 00:42:35 a lot of the like TV shows that we thought were going to win like White Lotus. Three of the women were nominated in the category for Carrie Coon, Amy Lou Wood, and Parker Posey, and none of them won. I think that's great. Who did win for the woman? For which. For the show. Which show?
Starting point is 00:42:51 TV show, like actress and a TV show. Maybe supporting actress in a TV show. Who? Oh, yeah, Gene Smart. She deserves it. And she wins always. So like, we know. Best supporting actress.
Starting point is 00:43:03 I see the three white load eye. we have Aaron Doherty from adolescence. Oh, adolescence swept two. The little kid won. She won, the dad one. He was the Netflix show. And it was filmed in one take. Was it?
Starting point is 00:43:15 Is that the one that was filmed in one take? I didn't know that that was a thing. Yeah. That's pretty cool. That's actually very cool. Yeah. Like a play. Yeah, but it's like you could not.
Starting point is 00:43:28 You know, like, why are you doing all that? Yeah, I saw. We have this amazing thing called like Final Cut Pro. Our fellow. family. Our fellow family. Josh Peck. He was like talking about it months ago.
Starting point is 00:43:40 Got it. He's like, you could cut. It's such a good call. You know what? This has kind of been like a weekend for me of like realizing stuff. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:43:47 And you actually helped me come to this realization. Because last night I put Ruby in his pajamas without an undershirt. And I don't know why. Like I didn't realize until you said it. Like I thought they were literally going to cuff me up and take me to jail if I didn't put the baby's onesie on and then the pajamas. Every outfit he wears up.
Starting point is 00:44:04 undershirt. And then I had this realization. I'm like, we also could not. Like, we're in Florida it's fucking hot. He doesn't be wearing multiple layers. And he's also just like a baby who runs hot. It was just this sort of like freeing realization. Yeah. They're kind of a baby. And he always cries when I put the undershirt on. Like, oh, well, you got to get the ones that snap down the side. I do. But like it's just always like the arms. Like it's a thing. No. And it's like when baby is a newborn, they should have one more layer. Yes. So if you're wearing Jamas, they should have Jamas and an underlayer. My king is eight months and he's enormous. Like, he's fine. And as they get bigger like that, no longer.
Starting point is 00:44:34 applies plus if there's and i just bought like new kite baby onesies but like i don't eat them i'll take them is sure yeah actually you could wear them as a shirt yeah yeah yeah with nothing else a shirt yeah no you're definitely like on that onesie grind with baby number one yeah and then it starts to be like how about that onesie do we really need it um um okay so is that golden globes we feel good i feel good about it um which yeah yeah what one like best picture one day after another oh right oh right battle one battle after you. And then also comedy. Right, which was what? Comedy or musical. I believe we said it. Best Comedy or musical. One battle after another. Okay. So best drama. Hamann. Oh, right, right. Right. Yeah, we said it. I know I said I was going to like watch all the Oscar movies this year because I had such a good time last year. And like, it's fun to recap when you like know stuff. But the thing is nobody ever agrees with me. So I watched all those shitty movies last year just for a Nora to win. Like I don't agree with my fellow voter. So you can all go eat my ass. How about that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:37 And there's so many better things worth your time. Like, seriously, if you're going to devote that time, like, do Real House as of Salt Lake City. Or, like, Trader Season 3. Yeah. It's true. Yeah. And I think that's what, like, our audience is. Wants from us, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:49 Please, don't ask me. Don't ask me to do it. It was just a fun thing to do when I was pregnant when I literally, like, had nothing but time. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Alex Earl reveals her mom was diagnosed with breast cancer while she competed on dancing with the stars. Devastating. So Alex Earl just revealed that her mom, Melissa, has been diagnosed with breast cancer.
Starting point is 00:46:07 yesterday she opened up about her mom's health journey and a post shared on Instagram and TikTok posting a video showing her and her sister Ashton by their mom's side in the hospital doing her hair holding her hand and having some ice cream and drinks together she posted the clip with fuck cancer written over it while a voiceover said strong women never give up we might need a coffee we might need a good cry
Starting point is 00:46:25 we might need a day in bed but we will always come back stronger now I'm sick from this obviously I blame Alex Earl's dad okay I just when I think of this woman and what she's been through in her life and how much she's had to put up with for her family, like, and for the sake of her children, I'm always in awe of her. I feel like I'm always referencing, like, how amazing she is. And like, of course, like she gets cancer.
Starting point is 00:46:49 This is bullshit. I just blame him. Yeah. Yeah. I saw this yesterday. I was like, oh, did I miss something? Because it wasn't like a. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:55 And now to know that she was diagnosed while Alex was doing dancing with the stars. So like a very like grueling schedule midst the breakup with Braxton, like Alex is going through it. I know. So in hindsight, I'm really glad that she had that reprieve. even in New Year's, like, in just like a fun, swirly weekend. Of course. She's going through a hard time. And sometimes you just, like, have to be spotted with Tom Brady to help, like, your overall
Starting point is 00:47:14 wellness. Yeah. Just, like, get the vibes up. Yeah. So I'm wishing them the best and, um, just really, really sad. Very sad. Unexpected. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:25 Um, are you ready for our next story? Some controversy for Jennifer Lawrence. Of course I'm ready. Who I relate to on a very deep level. Share that she rehomed her dog who bit her child. So Jennifer Lawrence is getting a lot of backlash. being called awful after revealing she re- Not by me by the way.
Starting point is 00:47:39 After revealing she rehomed her chihuahua named Princess Pippie, longstocking, because it bit her son. So she was on a panel and she shared that she looked at her dogs differently after having kids and because one of them bit her. Well, what she had said was that like she before she had kids was an insane dog mom. She's like, I literally moved to 67 the first to be near this dog park. Like I was obsessed with my dog. like nothing could have, you know, torn us apart.
Starting point is 00:48:09 And then when she had her first baby, she started to look at the dog, like, very Romeo, like being like, girl, get out of here. Like she just, she's like, my priorities completely changed. And she was like wanting to rehome him. And then the dog bit one of the kids. And then it was like a no-brainer. Yeah. And I don't know why people are mad at her for this.
Starting point is 00:48:23 She said, after I had a kid, my dogs became so scary. It's almost like I don't recognize dogs right now. Like I just see them as a threat. Right. One of them bit my son and that made me just want to obliterate every dog. I was just like, I'm going to take you out. You are your fucking family and your fucking. friends. She went on to reveal that the dogs
Starting point is 00:48:38 are now staying with her parents, so not even like literally the least big deal ever. Re-home. People are so sensitive. I know. But in general, and I can, I'm very understanding. But after a, like, you could want to rehome your dog once you have kids and they didn't even bite. Like, it's just like, your priorities change
Starting point is 00:48:56 and you can't give them a better life. Of course. And I just want to say, giving your dog to live with your parents is not a re-home. No. That's literally what I do half the year, like Romeo Lose with Ben's parents. But, Right. So it's like, she didn't even need to share this, but I'm honestly glad she did because it's exposing how crazy some people are. Yeah, about like dog. Like, I'm sorry, the dog bit the child. Oh, what are we even talking about the dog bit? But even if the dog bit didn't bite the child, normalize the conversations we're having about, like some people, because I was actually talking to Olivia Colpo about this and her DMs about how like literally nothing has changed. Like she loves her dog more than ever. Like her and the baby and the dog are like this beautiful little family. Christian do. Beautiful family. I'm like, oh, that literally could not be more opposite of my truth. But some people have both experiences. I think if I had had Theo, like, like, I barely know Romeo, you know what I mean? But my OG dog, Theo, who unfortunately passed like an untimely death,
Starting point is 00:49:43 if he was my dog right now, I would not be having these problems, like, at all. So some people have, like, normalize having the conversations about how, like, sometimes a dog does not fit your life anymore when you have a baby, and that's just really unfortunate. And if you are going to rehome your dog, I really have no problem with that as long as you're taking proper, like, don't just give him away Lucy, juicy, apple goosey. Like, let's find, let's find a nice home, perhaps a family member. Even though, like, even Doreet brought him to, like,
Starting point is 00:50:06 the place where she had originally gotten him from but do we want to have the conversation maybe we don't want to step in it about like the the original point that she was making about how obsessed she was with her dog and like moving somewhere no because i think at that point you're just like yucking someone's yums okay like you can think your own thoughts okay but i don't think that that's a universal truth i think it's just your truth well no it's not universal because other people obviously feel a different way right like do we want to call them out for that feeling no no because i had that feeling Really?
Starting point is 00:50:36 Yeah. There was like a time in my life where like the most important thing in my life was my dog. I don't remember you ever being a crazy dog person. Oh, really? And I could think of like crazy dog people. Ben. Yes. But not even.
Starting point is 00:50:50 And you did not fall into that category. Though you love Theo with your whole heart. Like loving your animal is a normal thing. But yeah. Revolving your life around them as if they are a child. I don't judge. I actually don't. As if they are a child.
Starting point is 00:51:02 For some people like the dogs are their children. And you don't think. Either for their whole life for this period of your life. No, I really, I don't have a problem with it. I don't. I mean, I'll talk shit about you behind your back, but like I'm not on the podcast. You won't touch it. No, I don't feel like alienating people.
Starting point is 00:51:15 You know, there are some things I'm like willing to die on. Like, I have a feeling that's so strong. Like I will say it. No matter the backlash, no matter the comments. Don't forget to flood the comments with you both look beautiful today. This is not one of those things. Is it one of those things for you? Because you can talk about it.
Starting point is 00:51:27 No, but I just think, you know, let's, let's circle back to that, you know? Yeah. Think about that. Yeah. I just like, like, lots of culture recess are getting canceled right now. Like let them have their moment. We don't need to have ours. Okay.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Even though I didn't say anything. Yeah, no, we didn't. Like, there's nothing that you could even, like, quote. Like, you know what I mean? Yeah, we just, like, no clip. What was I? But, yeah, brave for Jennifer Lawrence for sharing this even. Because once you say the word re-home.
Starting point is 00:51:56 It's a trigger word for like the internet. Yeah. And one thing about Jennifer Lawrence is like, she's not going to listen and learn. Like, she said what she fucking says. She doesn't have social media. We're not getting a screenshot. Notes have apology. We're not getting a clarification.
Starting point is 00:52:08 Like, the saga ends here. I don't think anyone can tell her anything. The dog bit her child. It's absurd. I can't, but I do feel like a lot of like these articles, like manufactured backlash. Like, is there actually backlash? There's no way a reasonable human being could be upset about this. You can buy backlash for anything, though, if you look hard enough.
Starting point is 00:52:22 Right. Like three comments. Yeah. If you want to muster it up. That's what I mean. They like make it for the article. Yeah. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:55:55 I forgot to tell you this. So I had to make an appointment. I needed like an air conditioning guy to come to my apartment in New York. And I'm calling and I'm making an appointment with this guy and ask me questions like the address, what the issue is, yada yada. And I realized about halfway through, I believe I'm on the phone with an AI chatbot. It was so crazy. I made a full appointment.
Starting point is 00:56:16 Like literally no issue. It was one of the most pleasant conversations I've ever had. I got an email and a text confirmation. and the only thing that got wrong was they spelled by last name, O-S-H-R-A-E. I don't give a fuck. They got everything right. My email, they were like, spell your email.
Starting point is 00:56:28 Did you spell out your name for them? You didn't even have to. I think I did. I did. It was so crazy. First of all, the voice was so life, but also he wasn't dumb. Like, anytime I've ever been on the phone with the machine,
Starting point is 00:56:37 I'm like, operator, operator representative. Oh my God, it was actually crazy. And that had me shaken in my AI boots, like, for real. But that's a good story. Yeah. Except for, you know, the loss of jobs. Right. I guess if they were doing an amazing job,
Starting point is 00:56:51 No, and I feel like telemarketers are like... You would be, like, sad that now you're talking to a robot. Instead, you're happy. Yeah, this is where I'm at with AI. Like, if it's improving my quality of life, I have no problem with that. Yeah. And that's what happened. Yeah, well, I think also where I'm at with AI is like it will probably be the end of the world.
Starting point is 00:57:09 As we know. And destroy, like, the human race, right? So, might as well enjoy the benefits while we can. That's beautiful. That's where I. No, I like that. But you know, one thing that AI can. Can't do?
Starting point is 00:57:22 What? Make you a loaf of bread. But you know who can? Taylor Swift, she's gifting her celebrity friends, her famous homemade sourdough loaves during a night out in L.A. And I will say regarding chat and sourdough, I have used chat to troubleshoot some of my loaves. Like what's the perfect amount of cook time and temperature?
Starting point is 00:57:38 And they actually don't have it right for my boule. They have it right for my sandwich shape, but not for my boule. They keep burning it. I want to say. So me as like a sourdough maker, I won't be replaced by a. The one thing that I think might. save us from AI is the fact that a lot of these AI bots are low-key so stupid. Like, they're wrong about so much. I now have to like double-check stuff when I, when I get the
Starting point is 00:58:01 info from chat. I don't know if that's all bots, if that's chat specifically. I told you that like chat sent me to a container store once that had been closed for 10 years. Like it's, it's not all it's cracked up to me. You have to just sort of like double-check your sources. I agree, but it's getting smarter. Yes, it is getting smarter. It can learn. Yes, but I can Learn. That's chat. Yeah. And I feel like I know the things that chat's not going to be good at.
Starting point is 00:58:28 Like I was asking for like a specialist in my area for something and then they gave me a bunch of people and I literally looked them up and none of them existed. Right. I know that's not what chat is good for. Right. It's not Yelp. Yeah. So there are other things where I'm like, oh, this is the perfect thing for chat night to
Starting point is 00:58:42 discuss. Yeah. But anyways, Taylor's friends got some loaves. It's so funny. Like they were all spotted leaving this restaurant. We never would have known Taylor was even in. the building if they hadn't walked out with these sort of like public display displays of Taylor. The Amazon to go bags for sourdough loaves.
Starting point is 00:58:58 It's interesting. I noticed that as well. She uses the brown paper bags that you also use that you literally got from Amazon. And you would have thought she would have, I don't know, started packaging it like a little bit more parjoliciously. Yeah. Those bread bags are like so ugly. And I feel like they create a lot of condensation too.
Starting point is 00:59:12 I feel like when you first need a bread bag, you just search Amazon. Yeah. And then you realized, wait, I could have gotten one from like Etsy or whatever. And then you started to get like custom stickers. But you do have. have like 50 to 100 of these Amazon ones that you need to use. I just feel like like Taylor like with her jet. Like I don't think she really cares about getting rid of like 50 paper bags.
Starting point is 00:59:31 Well, I'll know if like if I don't see 50 of them out in the streets. Like I'll know she was wasteful and I'll tell everyone. Wasteful. Is there anything worse? I think like people know actually. Like one of the accusations of Taylor that I do find like valid. Like she's our raceful queen. I don't think she's, of course she takes her jet. Take the jet out of it because it's not about waste.
Starting point is 00:59:48 Right. Right. Right. No. She's like someone who. who like is wasteful, throws away food, like, let's buy things from the grocery store that she already had at home and then like throws it away.
Starting point is 00:59:58 She doesn't, like a trash full of stuff that's like She doesn't give like girl who takes leftovers home, you know? I don't know. I don't think she's wasteful. Well, I think she has a lot of like staff people who do these things for her. So like, all right, maybe, you know, there's a cake that is not getting eaten. Like, does one of the staff members want to take it home? I think it's actually like easy to not be wasteful when you have a lot of staff.
Starting point is 01:00:21 Okay. That's just a theory I have about, like, wastefulness. Yeah. I just, like, wouldn't, like, count her as, like, a wasteful person. I don't know why. So, anyway, she gifted her friends, the Hame sisters, and somber. And I feel somber. Like, that was really shocking that somber got a loaf.
Starting point is 01:00:37 It was somber. I saw him in a picture. So, um, we spoke at him the other day and we didn't know who he is. He's not role model, but he sings a song. He sings a song that you know. Ready? Mm-hmm. We talked about him because he was on SNL.
Starting point is 01:00:51 His song. is. Somborini? It's not sombrini. Is that it? I don't know that song but I enjoyed it. That's it? How does it go?
Starting point is 01:01:12 Like, I've never heard this song. Back to Friends. Can we go back to? Do how it ends. Is that it? So he has one song and he's at dinner with Taylor Swift? Listen, we're so close.
Starting point is 01:01:24 Like, we just need a song. You have two. It's actually, I'm so good you brought that up. Nobody, everyone's like you should write a song. Bitch, I literally did. Yeah, two. Two. I'm sorry I didn't write them.
Starting point is 01:01:33 like I bought them. Yeah. And they're really good. By you. Toast. On a time, we're gonna have a good time. A thousand ends up to the sky.
Starting point is 01:01:42 We're gonna get toasted tonight. Can't let it fade. We got a sparkle in our eyes. Can't let it wait. I'm counting down until we start. We're an negates. We come to play. And we play hard.
Starting point is 01:01:58 Ooh. Two, three, five. Hun a time. We're gonna have a good time. A thousand hands up to the sky. We're going to get toasted tonight. I've been feeling it all day. I want to let it go.
Starting point is 01:02:11 I want to lose control. Oh, I'm ready to roll. And I've been daydreaming about this night. For a long time, I want to dance with you under moonlight. A toast to the wild ones. A toast to the good life. A toast to the lovers. It's toast to you and I.
Starting point is 01:02:31 A toast to the wild ones. to you and I. Imagine hating us and we're just like sitting here singing my original song, you know? It's insane. What a waste of your time. The fact that we have so many haters genuinely blows out of mind. Genuinely. Like, we're hilarious.
Starting point is 01:02:49 Do you agree? I do agree. You know what I want to do right now. Sing? I want to hunt it down. Oh, I'm constantly. By the way, you should join me on the weekend. I'm always hunting it down.
Starting point is 01:02:59 It's 100 down. It's 100 down. Like 100 down, yeah. But like I am like a singer, so I say like, 100 down, you know. Yeah. A lot of people don't know that. Fun fact. That's 100 down.
Starting point is 01:03:11 100. Mm-hmm. You bitchess could never. And then I think that was an Easter egg for your next song. I do. It is high time for me to release another song. Because hunted was an Easter egg for 100. Wait.
Starting point is 01:03:23 Oh, and then my second song that I sometimes forget. It goes. It was called 100%. And that was like when we were really in the era of like saying 100%. Yeah. 100%. 100% don't let them forget go hard till the end because you know that we are 100% Don't let them forget
Starting point is 01:03:43 Because you know that we are 100 We keeping it we keep it 100 You best believe it keeping it we keep in it we keep in it one an Oh this the bridge is actually really good. It's like kind of moody After all is said and done we still got us We got love, we're one. Oh no, I'm singing toast. A toast to us, the wild ones.
Starting point is 01:04:10 One, two, three, never mind. We don't keep this up because we are 100%. Yeah, and you know, the producer of both of my songs actually, oh no, sorry, just a second song, is the producer of our theme song as well. I got to get back in the studio with Curtis. Have you seen those reels, and I imagine TikToks of like that guy who's like, pretence he's in the studio
Starting point is 01:04:29 when like classic pops are going on? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's you. You should recreate one. You should recreate one. That's me. Yeah, you should do that today. And he's like just using like a lazy Susan.
Starting point is 01:04:43 I love that guy. You are that guy. Every time I see one of his videos and he always picks like the best part of every song. That's my guy. Yeah. Are you ready for our fifth? Well, anyway, she made loaves for her friends as like her friends do. And I was going to say it's kind of like it's such a status symbol like that shitty bag from Amazon.
Starting point is 01:05:00 It kind of reminds me like when Ariana Grande was giving out her seven rings and it was like, well, who has a ring? And this is just like a ring. Yeah. Yeah. Cool girls make bread. Yeah. Yeah. Are you ready for a fifth and final story? Traders recap.
Starting point is 01:05:14 Spoiler alerts forthcoming. Yeah. So if you don't haven't seen all three episodes, this will contain spoilers as to who the traders are, who went home starting now. Okay. So let's talk about like the people they chose for traders and like what we think about like the concept of the show. So I had an idea of what the show. So I had an idea of what the show was, and it is what I thought it was. It reminds me, does anybody ever play that game that's, like, made by the same people as Quiplash?
Starting point is 01:05:35 It's called The Faker. You remember we played that in the House? I don't remember. Where one person is the faker, and, like, you literally just lie and, like, say that. And I'm so good at it. It's my favorite game. And this is basically just, like, an in-person version of that. I'm loving it, I have to say.
Starting point is 01:05:48 First of all, Ben is Zach watching with you? No, we tried to watch Star Tart. Like, I was like, let Star Taders and neither of us have ever watched it, but Max kept waking up. And so I kept waiting for him, and then it was already Saturday night, and I haven't started because we were disturbed. So it's like, I have to go it on my own. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:06:02 Well, he would really like it. Ben's like enjoying it immensely. He thinks Alan Cummings is so funny. Oh, I don't even notice Alan Cummings. Me neither. And I do think like a lot of the theatrics are annoying. Like, I prefer like the juice, the drama. And I was really shocked at who they chose for traitors.
Starting point is 01:06:17 Now, I don't know what the criteria. Yeah. And I do think they want to keep people on their toes, people in the house, the audience. And I'm shocked at how amazing of a traitor. I think Lisa Rinna is. And I do think this show will end up being very good for her. Because I've been like a very vocal like Lisa Hater. Like I wasn't a fan of her on Housewives.
Starting point is 01:06:34 I was like ready for her to go. Um, and I think she's been amazing. I think she's such a good trader. She's been so low key. Like she. I think that's suspicious. Well, of course. I actually think the best one of the traders is Rob.
Starting point is 01:06:46 Well, yes. Candice like is awful. I wish that she wasn't a traitor because we're getting so much Candice and she's like so high on her horse and she's like not my favorite housewife by any means because I'm still team Monique. Right. Like for me, that just is not. going to work. I think
Starting point is 01:07:00 Rob is great. I don't know him from Love Island. I didn't watch his season, but he does seem like kind of dumb as a doorknob and very unsuspecting and he is a good game player. He's not very dumb, but he really like plays it. You don't notice him. I feel like Renna's kind of an obvious choice because she isn't actress. I'm surprised
Starting point is 01:07:18 that they picked her because she's so traitory, just who she is. As a person, yeah. For the same way they thought that Donna was a traitor because she's such an obvious choice because she's not obvious. is. Yeah. No, no, because she's like, sweet old lady.
Starting point is 01:07:31 So it's like, oh, you'd be a great traitor because we would never assume you. And the same way that that's an obvious choice, I think Rin is an obvious choice because it's like, of course you're a traitor. So I have so many thoughts about Donna being selected as a traitor and this whole concept of secret trader, which is a new phenomenon. And I don't like it. Over TG. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:46 And Donna was never going to be a good trader. It was actually a really bad choice. And I think like catching a traitor in the second or third episode is not good. Like, I was shocked. And the thing is, I feel like you really have to be there, like, feel the vibes. because everybody was like Donna, it was unanimous. And I'm like, what did she do besides not talk to you guys? Like literally, like, what is she different than like Tara?
Starting point is 01:08:05 Right, Tara. Random. Donna must have been so obvious. Like, I don't know what the fuck she was doing. I also saw theories online saying that she didn't participate in some of the challenges due to like the physical elements of it and she is this older woman, which would have given people like a lot of suspicions about her because I feel like there's something not being said about Donna.
Starting point is 01:08:22 What was so obvious? I was actually feeling defensive of her. I was like, she doesn't know you guys. And she's like, why the fuck would she be up your ass chatting? She's just this sweet old lady. So I was like, you guys are wrong. I thought for sure Colton was the secret traitor. I thought Colton was something.
Starting point is 01:08:37 He's playing this game very well. I think he's one of like the smartest game players aside from like the gamers who I don't know. Even though like Tiffany seems really smart and like a really good gamer, but she's so bar climbing up the wrong tree with Michael. Yeah. It's crazy. She's so misguided. She's like, it's Michael.
Starting point is 01:08:53 She named three people and it's none of those people. Well, everyone. And so the thing is, it's like, you can be really smart on the show. But why Colton, I think, is going to go far is nobody knows he's smart. We know in his confessionals, like, oh, I'm like, that's actually a really good way of thinking. And he's not there yet, but his thought process is right. We have to look past the fact that he's, like, a crazy person who stalked his ex-scruff. Like, it's actually insane that he's on this show and being given this platform.
Starting point is 01:09:13 So I'm just going to, like, try and exist in a vacuum where that didn't happen. I do think he's playing really well. Most of the people who come on the show, a lot of them are, like, former reality TV, like, villains, whatever, who have, like, history of even Sandeval was on it last season. I do think you just sort of have to. Okay, but like everyone you just like, none of it comes close to like breaking the lawn, like being a stalker. I'm sure.
Starting point is 01:09:32 Like Miriam Webster defined stalker. I mean what Jesse Smilett's on special forces. It's true. I forgot about Jesse Smillet. Yeah. That's a good comparison. I want to talk about with cold. My issue with the show, it kind of is like may the dumbest person win because if you are
Starting point is 01:09:46 smart, you are automatically eliminated for being smart. So we're not having this like that. I mean, the fact that Rob knew there was a murder in plain sight. And he's like, wait, you started the conga. But if only he had the opportunity to tell one person. If you ever needed proof as to why Kannis is a terrible traitor was the conga line. It was so obvious, so stupid. Like, that was your quickest way to get everybody in one room.
Starting point is 01:10:08 Like so dumb. You should have been like, guys, I want to talk about something. And, like, make an accusation. And she's messed up a couple times but gotten away with it. Portia. Able to smooth it over. Portia with Michael Rappaport. And, like, I'm annoyed at Mora because she's the only one who knows the truth.
Starting point is 01:10:21 And she didn't remember. She wasn't even listening. Okay, but I ship Mora and Rob. I ship more and Rob I wonder if they'll come to that conclusion themselves. They're both from Love Island. I love more on Love Island. She was at the Golden Globe. She looked sick. Yeah, she does like a lot of TV work. She's best friends with Molly May. She's from her season.
Starting point is 01:10:34 She was like the best one on her season. Like personality out up the wazoo. We're not seeing a lot of it on the show yet. There's so many people. You know who's like actually really being just like dumb and is pissing me off and this is going to like offend you personally? Caroline Samir. Yeah, she stinks. What did she do wrong? She just stinks. She stinks. She stinks. She stinks. Like everything she says, I'm like, you're wrong. She's just like not giving that much.
Starting point is 01:10:57 She's not really participating yet. But I love her jacket that she keeps wearing her little puffer. I want to talk about Michael Rappaport, who was like probably the most polarized. Talked about person. I saw before I even started, I saw so much hate for Michael. And I was like, oh, God, what did he do? And then I saw this New York Magazine article is Michael Rappaport ruining traders.
Starting point is 01:11:15 But this like scathing, that was the headline. And then this scathing article. I was so looking forward to finding out what he did when I tell you I have no idea what you guys are talking about. First of all, he was cracking me up. And I kind of did think Jam Jam was a traitor. Like, if you're a traitor and you know it, clap your hands. I'm sorry, he's this eccentric personality. Maybe he's not for everyone. I have no idea, like, what people are referring to when they say he's ruining the show. Well, the people who read that article, like, obviously just don't like him because he's a
Starting point is 01:11:40 Jewish and Zionist and wearing a big Jewish star. Yeah. I think he's hysterical. I was ready to be like, oh, Michael Rappaport. I don't really know him from that much other than social media. So I've not, like, seen him in his element. He's so funny. I love that he doesn't like back down from confrontation. Like other people, they don't want to be in confrontation. They're like, everyone on these shows has huge personalities. Like, you don't want to be like red to fill by anyone. Everyone's just like sort of hiding. No one is putting themselves out there. I think he's being so funny. And also being brave. Everyone is just, that's what's the problem with the show. Everyone It's heard mentality. Everyone who is quiet skates by until the end. May the dumbest most quiet
Starting point is 01:12:14 person win. Because like the people who are actually putting themselves out there to say, I think it's this person and then say it's not that person. Well, all of a sudden it's you. like Ron, like Ron just really try to put something together. I have such an issue with people hating Ron and now thinking this is where it's like, you're obviously not a smart person because how you could think Ron acted in any sort of malice when he just came to the tables like this is the evidence that I have. He obviously doesn't know Portia. Who said that?
Starting point is 01:12:38 She just like says stuff and she speaks wrong. And she's hell. What bothering me is the same way Portia said we sent Ian home, which by the way, you did send Ian home because you someone put this team put the casket in his grave. Like, and we got Ian sent home. sure. Michael said it at the table so you could see how this slip up would happen. Yeah. And to think that like Donna, Michael and Ian, who are each like sort of taking the same side right now, that they're all the traders because they're saying the same thing, you think that the traders would be so
Starting point is 01:13:04 stupid as to like publicly at the round table team up and say here we are. Like they're just, they're playing checkers when it's a game of chess. Justice for Ron, he had me fully convinced because and I'd like that, you know, if you're going to, still there. No, of course. But if you're going to make an accusation, like, proof is paramount. And that's what I was saying with Donna. Nobody had proof other than the fact that she wasn't talking about. It was just vibes, which I guess if you were there in person and clearly they were right. But Ron came to the table with like straight up facts. I appreciate like the clarity in which the accusation was made. And okay, they were wrong. That's okay. Yeah. If he knew Porsche for one second, like I never thought
Starting point is 01:13:42 of first. She would have been like seriously the world's, if what she was doing was because she was a traitor, she would be the world's worst traitor. So I don't think was her. But he could he could have just not said anything and not put a target on his back. So it's like people who are putting themselves out there who are trying to play the game like Michael are being penalized. And so we're going to wind up with just like a bunch of Stephen Colettys. Oh, okay. Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 01:14:05 There's way too many people on this show, although I do appreciate that in the first three episodes, like four people have already gotten home. Like they're moving quickly. There are far too many people. Like, and even there are people who I think are good and have big personalities are just falling through the cracks, Mark Ballas. Like, oh, and also there are a couple of people who, and I literally talk pop culture for a living, whom I've never.
Starting point is 01:14:20 Never seen in my life. Eric, the songwriter. Even Ron, I like him. Where the hell is Ron? I agree. Eric, the songwriter, is random. I obviously don't know the gamers, but it's almost unfair to have them in the show
Starting point is 01:14:31 because they're always going to be set up first, because people know that they're smart. So it's like the best person to win the show is someone who like seems dumb but isn't. And like you play that. That's really the only way to win. And that's why I think Rob is good at the game. That's why I think Gabby Windy won her season.
Starting point is 01:14:46 I could see now why. You wouldn't like suspect her of being a mastermind, but she's actually really brilliant. Yeah. I'm enjoying it so much. Like I, and I'm now like learning like, you know, some more behind the scenes. They don't live in the castle. They stay at a hotel. That makes sense.
Starting point is 01:15:01 I mean, everyone has glam. So I was also wondering, are they getting full glam? For sure. They're on TV. They're, you know, TV stars. I don't think they're going to just like roll out of bed and show up to TV. And I like that because I'm watching a television show. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:11 Produce it. Look beautiful, please. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm fine with that. And they are all like, you know, the biggest stars in, in their own lives. Like they're not going to be like bunking up. If the traders do get found out, it will be because of Candace.
Starting point is 01:15:25 The thing about Candace, and I feel like this is the most dangerous combination of person, like someone who really thinks that they're smart and is not. Yeah. She is so obvious. Like how no one is onto her is insane, the conga line thing, I would have been like, girl, it's you. Yeah. How nobody thought that was weird.
Starting point is 01:15:39 Why no one followed up on the lie, especially after Portia's found out to be a faithful. Right. So where did this communication originate? So someone in this conversation lied, the person who, you thought was lying turned out to be a truth teller. So let's look at the other person.
Starting point is 01:15:53 I feel like there are a couple of threads of things that have happened that people are like following up on, like Michael and Jam-Tam. You're following up on the wrong things. Yeah. Yeah. And the people who are there like who are the smart ones, like Tiffany, I feel like her game theory is really spot on, but she has just completely taken it down the wrong path and she's going to end up nowhere.
Starting point is 01:16:09 Yeah. I feel like she's like in love with Michael. Like she's so blinded by him. Just say you like Michael and you're like out with him. No, I get, did you see Michael eating the spaghetti? Yeah. That was insane. I don't like clock it again.
Starting point is 01:16:20 And they literally, they must have known, like, they stayed on him for like four bites. It was shocking. He is so funny. I'm sorry, you're not going to get me to hate Michael. He's funny. He's adding like. And I was like ready too because I was like, oh, he's. Loud mouth, annoying.
Starting point is 01:16:32 And then I watch everything and I'm like, he's trying to play this game. He's being funny and he's being brash and not just being scared of being sent home and not being on TV. Yeah, no, there are so many people like, seriously, Stephen Clotty, what are you doing there? Even Clotty, but every time he does speak, I'm like, you're kind of a pee job. The fact that he would have been a good traitor. He wouldn't. He, to me, is the same as Rob, like, just to come out there.
Starting point is 01:16:52 Unassuming. Unassuming. Rob, I think is playing it well. Stephen, when he, like, wouldn't take the seat because he was like, my mom raised me. I would never, like, make a woman put him around. And he's still on TV. So, like, he's, like, still being watched. Like, there's so many elements that play.
Starting point is 01:17:04 Like, you want to be good, faithful. You want to be good traitor. But you're also on TV. He just wants to be a good person. Yeah. Yeah. No, I have no problem with him personally. There's just too many people on the show.
Starting point is 01:17:11 No, I'm just saying, like, yeah. But I actually, I don't mind. he's not someone that I mind. I don't really mind anyone, but I'm just like this idea that like only the people who really middle line it and who go unnoticed are going to make it until the end because the people who are really playing the game
Starting point is 01:17:25 are going to get eliminated. Not my favorite kind of game because I like games of skill and I feel like the more skill you have, the quicker you are to be eliminated. That challenge where they were so, oh, okay, another person followed the other caraks. Johnny where? It's just not working.
Starting point is 01:17:40 Yeah. Even though like... And him and Tara have this like big plan to like team up at the end. Yikes. they win we'll be eating our words i'm i'm really curious i'm having fun i just want to say i'm really having fun and i'm like oh and also we've tell me lies this week it took me a minute but what's also crazy is like it's unconfirmed if this is going to be a good season do you know what i mean that's kind of like love island it just said that this morning and people are trying to shoehorn it
Starting point is 01:18:02 like it was amazing it was not but the season before was amazing and we missed that one the season before this one was apparently amazing um and we didn't watch it but so it's like oh maybe i'll go and watch that if this doesn't turn out to be what I think it's going to be. Yeah. And I really, I like that they're expanding. I feel like a lot of these shows like dancing with the stars and, um, what's the show? Jesse Smil, special forces. I really think that they're expanding like their net in terms of who they're casting and we're ending up with some great moments. And so I think they should continue to, and maybe that's what like Eric was and you can't win them all obviously like, but like the wider net, the more people, like throw some podcasters in there. Get like, I do think. Well, of course it
Starting point is 01:18:38 had me thinking like, could I ever do the show? Would I be good at the show? And I don't think that I would be, so I'm not going to nominate myself. I think I would be amazing. It's literally that game the faker. Oh, and because you love lying. Yeah, you have to watch it out because you always look up when you do. So true. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:54 I would love for them to have like a mentalist on the show. Oh, did you see? Oh, by the way, that's so funny. Oz Perlman, I literally thought the same thing because he was just on Ben's podcast. But also, yes. Oh, my God. It was a really big deal. He's so fascinating to me.
Starting point is 01:19:05 Did you also see that they're casting for regular? Like, kind of like Celebrity Big Brother. It'll be like celebrity, like, celebrity, and regular. You're not calling me regular, are you? No, no, I was just sharing facts. Like, this is the biggest. You would be a celebrity, of course.
Starting point is 01:19:19 Cast Jackie. No, no, but I'm saying. It'd be crazy if they casted like two people together, like a duo, like the Crisley's or something. And like one was a traitor and one wasn't. You think that they could tell? They would have, no. Well, if they could, they could trust each other implicitly, they could work together.
Starting point is 01:19:33 Yeah. And would that be a good thing? Yeah, but until a certain point, because either the traders win or the faithfuls win. Got it. Oh, interesting. I would want to be on the same team as you. Obviously, like, don't cast us if you can't put us at both as traitors or faithfuls. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:48 What would you rather be? Trader. Traders get more screen time. Duh. That's what Candice was saying. And I was like, I appreciate her honesty. But it's a lot of pressure. Like, when they had to murder in plain sight, like, that's a lot of work.
Starting point is 01:19:57 The faithfuls gets just to sit around on their arms. It's so fucking true. Resting on their laurels. Yeah, they don't even know how good they have it. I guess what's, like, fueling them is that they don't want to be sent home. The faithful. Yeah. But in order not be sent home.
Starting point is 01:20:11 all you have to do is sit in your house more. Yeah, which I could do. Yeah. Any other thoughts? No, I just felt sad for Donna. I'm shocked that they made her. Oh, what also bothers me about the show is that the entire format of the show is based on producers. Like, who's going to be a trader is because producers choose, right?
Starting point is 01:20:29 So it's like, what is the criteria for, it's not earned really? No, I do feel like at this point, it's random. Because if you do what they did in years past, you would try and find, like, the Dolores. But I think. Was Dolores a traitor? I don't remember. But I mean, I don't know. But I think that they really try to switch it up.
Starting point is 01:20:44 But it's like on the one hand, Lisa Rina and Donna are like the two most obvious traitors because Donna is like you want to put her in your show. She has this great cover. Even though now watching all of her scenes back, all she had to say was I'm such a big fan of everyone. Like that she was obvious. No, in hindsight it's so obvious.
Starting point is 01:21:00 In hindsight, it's so obvious. And then Lisa Rina also actress, you know, villain, will do whatever. They should not have made Donna a traitor, secret or otherwise. And then also, Making her a secret traitor was so unfair because it's so isolating for her. And it's this new thing. I think she already felt probably isolated. She's the only one who's coming on is not part of like a pack as a housewife or a gamer
Starting point is 01:21:18 with a community. And she's like alone. And then she's a traitor but alone. At least the traitors like have each other. That was not fair. You know what I am looking forward to like murdering face to face. Like I do think whoever gets murdered is going to be shocked. Oh, so it ended on a cliffhanger.
Starting point is 01:21:35 Who do you think will be murdered between Caroline Stanberry? They had good reasonings. Kristen, yeah. I think it'll be someone random. I don't like how in their, you know, what do they call it up at the top of the power? They only talk about the reasons why they should murder someone. They never say why they shouldn't murder someone. So I really think it's between Eric and Kristen.
Starting point is 01:21:56 I think if they murder, they're like, Rob would be good because it's random. No, if you murder Rob, then Ron, sorry, then you will know that everyone who was like around, like who said the same things as him, like Michael, are all. also not traitors and that gives them people too many clues. So to say that, don't say it would be good because it's random. It wouldn't be good, period. Yeah. And I do think like the whole housewives protecting housewives, like they should take out Caroline because then it kind of. I think they should take out Kristen. Because she's so random or because she's smart and like she's smart and she's not like being entertaining on my show. Oh, well that's the other thing. Girl, get off my screen.
Starting point is 01:22:31 So Kristen or Eric. But taking out Eric doesn't do anything for them. Yeah. Um, taking out Ron. Eric is the type of person who would win because he's so boring. If they save Ron, it really makes him look like a traitor. Yeah. That's another faithful kill. Because he's already been, yeah. He will not kill Ron, thankfully for me.
Starting point is 01:22:52 But like say that in the tour. Don't say, it's random. It's good. Yeah. Yeah. Unless like, am I playing the game better than everyone? Maybe you would be good. I don't like games.
Starting point is 01:23:00 I don't like games. She doesn't like games. Cast Claudia in traitors. Yeah. And you can use my original music. You can license it for free. How about that? Would you do traders?
Starting point is 01:23:10 Yeah. The Scottish countryside is beautiful. This time of year. Yeah. Yeah. The show's huge. And that's the other thing. I think people realized like they saw it literally made a star out of so many people last
Starting point is 01:23:20 season like Dylan Afron, Gabby Wendy. And I think people also are like, maybe you think like a little Michael Rappaport too. Like you're trying to make an impression. Like this is almost like an audition. Yeah. The thing about Michael Rappaport is you can say that about anyone. What I like about Michael Rappaport is you actually can't say that about him. He can't help but be himself.
Starting point is 01:23:35 Yeah, yeah. He's not putting on. Like he can't, if he could, he would sit back and shut up. Yeah. But he can't. Yeah, yeah. And that's interesting to watch. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:43 And it's very authentic. Yes. And that is the year of authenticity. You guys, that is our show. That's our Traders recap. We'll be recapping Traders probably every Friday, right? It's one episode. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:54 Yeah, and Fridays feel like a good time. Love that. Unless we can get screeners, then we can recap it on Thursdays. No, but then the people haven't seen yet. I know, but that's what like people do. No, no, it's not. Like you literally can't, unless you release your episode at 10 p.m. You can't.
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