The Toast - Media Literate Truthtellers: Thursday, April 30th, 2026

Episode Date: April 30, 2026

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Jackson Claude. Favorite show the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off, swirly. It's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to the toast and happy Thursday. Yeah, that's right. Latter half.

Latter half. We're doing it. We're out here. It. We out here. We out here. Hey, cojourner. How you doing?

What's your truth? Do you have a truth today? Truth teller? Hmm. Which of my truths do I want to share? No, I don't have any truths. I'm just... Truthin?

Me and Mrs. Truth. I am Mrs. Truth. That's really beautiful. I am... It's really beautiful. I feel like that's a sort of like spirit to usher in the show. I am Mrs. Truth. I am Mrs. Truth.

And I feel like a lot of us grow up being like like Mrs. Hat. And then real maturity is when you turn into Mrs. Truth, you know? I'm anti-truth. Absolutely. Absolutely you were anti-truth. Oh my gosh. Well, it's Thursday.

How fantastic. How utterly fantastic as we usher into the latter half. Utterly. Actually fucking fantastic. Longest week of my life to date. Literally. Yeah. it's been a real one.

You know, we've had so many, I feel like it used to be like there were so many short weeks or we used to just like take a day here or there. But like we are just like crushing full weeks every week now. When did that happen? That I actually think has been like a huge part of our growth and maturity just as people. Is that like we used to, yeah, when you make your own schedule, like you can take a Monday off just because you feel like it.

Or Friday. Definitely take a Friday. All the time we used to do that. But I think, you know, such, you know, a great part. of our show and why people love it is like we are so consistent now and we never miss a show we never miss a show if we do we tap ben in we tap olivia like we try to get an episode out every fucking day and i think that's one of our great strengths and why we are so successful i'm being dead serious no it's really true so anyways yeah this week has been it's been you know i had a really fun and

exciting day yesterday because i was actually with your husband oh my god i have to tell you the funniest thing ben told me about you about me yeah he gets home ben flew to florida we're like working on a project. So Ben flew to Florida. I was obviously going to go. Ben went in my stead. And you two like had a meeting for like a couple of hours and then he flew home. So he was home by like 7 o'clock. We had dinner together. Yeah. I was like, how was it? How's Jackie? I was Florida. And he was like, you know, your sister Jackie's so funny. I'm like, bye. I literally didn't do anything. Exactly. He's like, you know, we pull up, we meet in the parking lot. She gets out of her Tesla. Not a hug. Not a hey. How are you? Like just like I saw her yesterday. Hey.

I'm just picking up where we left off. And you know what? And you don't understand Ben comes from such an affectionate family. Like when we come over for dinner, it's like a hug. You haven't seen them in weeks. The goodbyes never end. Like kisses and hugs. And Jackie's like, oh, heylish.

Yeah, heylish. Also, I drove there on the highway. So I was going through like my own struggles, white knuckling. And I just want to say, I drive every day. I drive a lot, but I don't really drive on the highway. But I was like, I have to go on the highway. I have to go on the highway for this meeting. Like I can do it. I drive all the time.

And I just want to say the regular roads in Florida that you drive on are six-lane highways. Like you're not that far off. You would think, but the highway was insane. Like it was, it was just as crazy, if not crazier. People in Florida just are all so crazier. Then I built it up in my head. Like I was seriously white knuckling the steering wheel the whole way. Did you change lanes?

Only because I like to stay in the right lane, but then the right lane becomes the merging exit. So you actually should say. stay too in that way people aren't always trying to get in your lane but then the trucks coming up on my left like I seriously I was not meant for it so okay so maybe like Ben didn't realize you were in emotional distress yes and then I circled the block three times looking for parking like I was showing up with my own truth you know what I mean like of course is anti-truth we both come to the meeting like from our own lived experience and it wasn't just like I was blowing off my brother like I

I had a journey got it so I bet Ben you know he took a whole flight I I had a co-journey. Okay. But we had a great meeting. We had so much fun. We crushed work. I loved when you crushed work. And then I drove back home on the highway.

You know, you can ask Google to take you like the backroads if you're really that upset. It's an extra 20 minutes. And I've been scheduling my life like five minutes too close to each thing. And I'm just always in a rush. And I don't like that feeling. So I went to a little birthday celebration for my friends who are twins. on and Rachel and the theme was mahjong and it just made me realize like I need to have a mahjong birthday party it was like so pargy first of all we had dinner and then mahjong and like they had like

little gift bag how many people were there 12 it was like really three tables there was actually only two tables because you know we're in new york city we have limited space we can't be like setting up folding tables everywhere we go but you know a lot of my friends play very casually so like they play on teams I'll sit this one out me I sat I got a seat first yeah yeah I don't play no everybody knows not to not to be on my team. I don't play on teams. And they had like such a cute cake. It was like mahjong tiles and like little giveaways, mahjong and like little snacks with the cups that said like mahjong munchies.

I need to have a mahjong birthday party. Like if I was having a bat mitzv now, my theme would be mahjong. That's really cute. Well, we'll be together for your birthday. Maybe we could have a mahjong party. Why not? I love that like a gar, since it'll be summer like a garden party. We set up like a bunch of tables outside and play mahjong.

Yeah. Speaking of birthday, Zach's birthdays this weekend, we're actually going to do like a little something. Wow, thank you for reminding me. I had no idea. Well, it's because it's May tomorrow. I didn't realize obviously that it was May. One of the most shocking facts I've ever heard.

And I find this first week in May just to be annoying. Because pretty much everyone I've ever met is born this week. My sister, both my brother-in-laws, my friend Alicia, like our father, who aren't in heaven. It's just like it's annoying. I can't. But what's being asked of you? Just to sort of be there, whether it be physically or emotionally or like send a text, send flowers, a cake.

Like, it's a lot. Send a text. Nobody needs flowers, except for Margo. Like, you have to do something for your sister. Yeah, no. And then, like, Margaret's having two birthday celebrations that I have to go to both next week. Oh, what's she doing, Miss Satchy? Yeah, she's having sort of like a family gathering and then also, like, a friend's gathering. And obviously, as a family member, who's like a friend, I've been invited to both.

That's so cute. I got to catch up with Miss Margo. Well, I don't because I was invited to both. Yeah. Well, we have a fun plan. We're going to do like a little backyard BBQ and a little. Oh, to also say I'm going to put out a little mage table for the ladies. Of course, of course.

Yeah, yeah, of course. Margo actually did text me yesterday. I guess she was catching up on her episodes of The Toast. And she said I kind of was spot on with my take on stage coach in terms of like the vibes being sort of off and like the performers being. Really? She said like it's always the best weekend Like she had the best time But compared to years past

Yeah it was just like a meh Line up Oh okay Now we know Yeah The truth Instagram's just a highlight real Oh yeah

Don't believe everything you see Except on our pages And on this podcast Only Truths I mean I'm literally Mrs. Truth And she's anti-truth We don't do only fans We do only truth

Correct We should start a competitive platform. Speaking of our truth. No, we should start streaming on truth social. Like we are anti-end Mrs. Truth. We should. Like how some people have like an ex-exclusive. Like Chloe in Wonderland.

Some people have like YouTube exclusive, Facebook exclusive. We have a truth social exclusive because we speak the truth. We do. Colerner's truth. Also speaking of the end of the month, And my truth, I posted my kitchen rental vlog last night. I know, because I was, like I said, at my Mahjong party. And, you know, so many of my friends are Patreon subscribers.

And they got the notification. And they were like, oh, Jackie Reed-Ditter Kitchen. I'm like, how do you know? They got the notification. They got the notification at the party. Yeah. So I posted my blog last night. It's like so much fun, so much work.

And you really see like a full transformation. Like the payoff is real from start to finish. Like, oh, I can't wait. Yeah. So it's great. And there's a little bit more that needs to be done. It's all in the vlog. And I explain like why I just posted the vlog already.

So I'll continue to take you along on my co-journey. And you have a new kitchen. What's happened like for you? It's been amazing. It's so exciting to look at new things and just like new vibes and Coomza Fresh. And it's, it's been really fantastic. I know. That's why, like, I'm afraid of one day being a homeowner who, like, lives in the same place.

Because when you live in the city and you rent, like, you move every two years. So it's like always exciting. Just like just when you start to hate it, it's time to move. But you could always just like redo a room, which is so exciting. And you own it and like it's yours. Yeah. I guess. Like I see the value in that for sure.

Yeah. Like when I did your guest room, I actually was just watching snippets from that vlog when I redid the guest room that you stayed in with the wallpaper. And like, that's just such a fun feeling. It's addicting. Yeah.

Yeah. You've got the bug. I've got the bug. Maybe I should do my laundry room next. I love a pargy laundry room. I love laundry room. I love. People go all out with like their open shelves and like they put all their detergent and like

acrylic bins. Oh, but also like they do like. colored cabinetry, maybe like a wallpaper, back, spot, like, need. Love, love, need. Okay, next. That's next. I'll do with your Patreon.

I gotta. I don't know what the other four stories are, but I know that there's one story that sort of demands our attention. And that's... West. West Wilson's grandmother. Yeah. Yeah, that's the first story.

This Skim Andaval has taken such a turn. Mm-hmm. I don't, I really haven't. had a chance to dig into this story yet. I mean, I was reading it this morning and like, we'll talk about it. So it just like hasn't really sunk in for me, you know? Yeah, obviously. It's a lot to take in, of course.

But also the timeline being like so recent. Like this is all happening now. Yeah. Like the grandmother passed away the night before he left for the reunion. So like this is literally last week. Yeah. And like he's sitting at the reunion knowing that his grandmother, not passed away, was murdered by his cousin.

Right. And maybe he has like some sort of. inclinate. He doesn't know that it was the cousin, maybe. Like maybe. I think they knew. No, the cousin was sitting there on the couch with the grandpa and the grandma. They got into a fight like 30 minutes prior, but then he was just like sitting there silently and then turned around and shot her in the head. Was Wes there? No, no, no. Why would West be there? He was in, where's it from? Missouri? Midwest.

Yeah, he was there and then he left to go to the reunion. Like he had gone home. Interesting. But he's home, his grandma's house? Maybe like his mom's. And it happened the night before the reunion. So I think he would be back in New York the night before. That's insane. Yeah. We'll talk about it.

That's obviously our lead story. Please arrived and they arrested the cousin. Like there was no question as to who done it. Oh, oh, oh, oh. So we're just finding out. Yeah. But like I'm crazy. That it took so long.

I'm pretty sure by the time the reunion film the next morning, like he knew that his grandma was dead and that his cousin had done it. I'm pretty sure. Do you think they talked about it? I don't know. because it wasn't public knowledge until yesterday. Why would Andy know that his grandma even passed away? Well.

And he didn't speak up at all, so he's not going to certainly share this drama. He might have shared it at the top. Maybe one of the producer shared it. Like, I don't know. It seems like relevant information. Of course it does. But I do want to say, I think that yes. And I think that it's going to be completely absent from the, if I, like, if nobody knew,

maybe Amanda, but like they've decided not to bring it up. Yeah, I don't think it's going to be. discussed. Yeah. I mean, he could have said like my grandma died last night, but who would believe him? Like, dog ate my homework. Yeah. And then you add like, and it was my cousin who killed her, like, Sherwest. You'll say anything to get out of this scandal. You're slow even for you. So that's obviously our first story. Oh, I do need to update my whiteboard because yesterday was our third show without talking about the Licks versus Lex scandal in a formal capacity. We're kind of crushing it. Do we have any stories today? No, we don't. No, we don't. We're clean. I feel like the next time

we inevitably talk about it. We're three days clean. Oh, that's such an ugly three. Three days sober, I must admit, just because you're clean, don't mean you don't miss it. Um, I feel like the next time we talk about it in a formal capacity will be inevitably when this Vanity Fair article comes out that people keep saying is coming yet I have not seen. That's classic, isn't it? I know. It's like maybe the Vanity Fair article was the friends we made along the way. Yeah, maybe. Maybe it just doesn't exist. Yeah, that's what the phrase means.

The friends didn't exist. No, it's just like... It's not what the phrase means, actually, in the way that you described it to me. Okay. Right? Okay. You're fun. No, no, but right?

Because I'm trying to wrap my head around this fucking phrase. Maybe, you know what? Maybe let's just say that the first... The phrase isn't for you and you don't have to engage with it. Like I just used it properly, like perfectly actually, sleigh on my part. Yeah. And if you don't get it, like that's fine. I don't understand half the shit you say, pass muster.

Like, you know. But try to explain. No, and I did. And you just still don't get it. I just think, but it not existing isn't the point of the phrase, I believe. No, no. It is. And where does the phrase come from?

The interwebs. we're all great things come from. We're all great things happen. Yeah. Yeah. TBD on bad any therapy. I don't think we'll be talking about it in a formal capacity anytime soon.

I don't think like major things are going to happen. No. And Alex Cooper has moved on business as usual. Yeah. Kevin Hart. I do feel like she's posting a little bit more and perhaps a little bit more intentionally. You know, she posted like a really benign,

kind of moronic Instagram story yesterday about wearing ugs to the office. and I feel as though it was a not so subtle response to the claims in that article that she never goes to the unwell office and it's a sinking ship and her husband is yelling at everyone because she's not there,

she's too busy with the only successful project. So I feel like that was like, oh yeah, what do you mean? I'm Instagram straight because I'm in the office. Like I'm always here, you know? It was like a little, it was a little heavy-handed. Yeah, I guess so. But I feel like we see through that.

I don't know if she expects like everyone would. No, but we're like media literate queens. Very, very. We are media literate truth tellers. Yeah. It's better than the dogs, you know? Like, leave the dogs out of it. I completely agree.

So at least like this is one step up. Yeah, it's true. Like we're talking to camera. That's brave. Yeah, for sure. So business as usual. I mean, Alex Earl is posting like nothing changed. Yeah, but she never stopped.

Right. She never stopped posting business as usual. And Alex and her husband, the word was that they went to Hawaii. Yes. They were spotted in Hawaii. Yeah, so they obviously got away from it all. It's a perfect place to go when you're getting canceled. Yeah, lovely.

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Summerhouse Star West Wilson's cousin was arrested in charge with murdering their grandmother, Gail Wilson. Dakota Sweeney, that's his cousin, he's 28, was arrested by Missouri's Carrollton Police Department on April 22nd and charged the next day with first-degree murder and armed criminal action. Gail was both of their grandmothers, according to the obituary. Per the Missouri State Highway Patrol. Missouri, you know, I just got to keep it fresh.

On April 22nd at 10.25 p.m. local time, law enforcement officials arrived on scene after reports of a shooting at a residence where they found a female deceased inside. A witness later identified as the grandfather. on the scene allegedly identified a male suspect, the cousin, who was taken into custody without incident. According to the probable cause statement obtained by people magazine, the grandfather witnessed him sit on a couch next to victim number one

for approximately 30 minutes and without warning, shot victim number one in the head. He alleged that earlier in the evening, Sweeney, the cousin, and victim number one, the grandmother, had been in a disagreement about Sweeney not assisting with chores around the residence. You're kidding. me. He is currently being held at jail on a no bond warrant as they continue the investigation. The murder happened the night before West film the summer house reunion. Got it. Okay. So he obviously

was not there. Now I just want to talk about this case, like, as if it's not a part of like, you know, Schmandoval, we don't know that he has a famous brother. It takes like a genuinely evil person to kill an elderly person, like woman who has quite literally like never posed a threat to you and she's just telling you to clean your room. Like true, a sociopathic serial killer behavior. This is so crazy. I would say that's actual killer behavior to kill. Yeah, right. Nadia. This is just like if I had read this story in the local news, like it's just a devastating story. A grandson killing his grandmother is news no matter who the cousin is. Yeah. And even, you know, we hear a lot about like interfamily murders. You know, like they kill their parents. Like we were just

talking about, what's his name? Rob Reiner. But like a grand, like this is so Adelafield, like so fucking unnecessary, honestly, like, just fucking crazy. Now we add in the element that like the cousin of the murderer is involved in this nationwide scandal. And I'm going to say the thing that you're not supposed to say. Which is, I feel bad for West. Of course. Like he lost his grand and now like his family's embroiled in like an even bigger.

Like just when you think Skamandevil can't get any bigger or worse or more devastating. There's a murder. It's not funny. sorry. No, no. Literally. It's shocking. Of course I feel bad for him.

You're not allowed to say that. Of course you can say that. I never even heard of such a thing. Not only did his grandma die, which even if his grandma died the night before we're moving. Like that's so sad. And I just like assume he's the kind of guy who's close with his grandpa. Loves his grand.

Yeah. But killed by the hands of your cousin, not even just. So first there's death. Then there's murder. Then there's murdered by a family member. Do you feel like this will be the end of West Wilson's tenure as a famous person? No.

I feel like he's been cured of ever wanting to be famous. Like I could see him like really like stepping back. Oh no. No, no, no. Sure. This is so dark. Sure, things aren't panning out. Well, no, I think for him he doesn't associate these two things.

Like, do you think that Sweeney would have killed the grandmother if West Mandeval didn't happen? I don't know. Maybe the family was really stressed. Like, honestly, it's stressful. Yeah. Not that I'm blaming him. It was a joke. But like,

I don't even know how to talk about this. It happens the same week. What are the fucking odds? But no, I think they're two separate things. I think he still loves me. No, I'm not saying they're connected at all. I just think that like...

In the sense of like he's not going to quit fame because his grandma was murdered by his cousin. But like, I don't know. I feel like he's a person who cared deeply about being... He didn't just want to be famous. He wanted to be like beloved. And now he's ended up like so hated.

Now he's embroiled in like this whole skin. And I could just see him being like, like, you know what, I missed my life before anyone knew who I was. No. I don't. And even if the grandma had been killed by the cousin before Summerhouse or whatever, like, this is something that just makes you kind of want to, like, crawl into a cave. Yeah.

I don't think he'll see the two things as being related. Plus, he has a couple months in a cave before he films again for Summerhouse. Like, I think this is late April, two full months, and then they start to film. Like, he can start to, he can, like, take the time to grieve and, deal with the emotions he's feeling. And like, is he going back to the summer house with Amanda? I think, like, oh, they haven't said anything, but my assumption of how this should play out is, like, Amanda and Wes go back and Sierra doesn't. I don't think Sierra wants to go.

Yeah, but Sierra's not on In the City, right? No. So what, her career is a reality TV star is just over? She's going to graduate. I mean, she's going to do dancing with the stars. Like, she's up. Oh, right. She's moving on. Moving on up. I guess. I guess, yeah. I think that's how it should go because also like say Sierra wants to come back to summer house which welcome back to the house like West and Amanda have to be on. This is the most interesting thing that's ever happened like unfortunately. And so for her like peace and mental health, she shouldn't go back. And I don't even think she wants to. Yeah. You know like do you think Amanda

wants to? I I cannot wrap my head around this girl for one second. I know. Because also. She's very confusing to me. While when everyone was like, you know, just like talking about her her character and like all these things. People had started to say that like she was really interested in Kyle in the beginning like to be on the show. And that is like never the vibe that I got. Not that I watched those early seasons. But I sort of feel like him being like a reality star on the short was like an inconvenience

to her. Like she's just a normal girl and now she has to be on the show. That's a bad reading actually. Now that I'm putting myself back in that. Remember they came on the breath? Yes. Together. Yeah.

She was very excited at the prospect of being famous. I definitely think that like Kyle being sort of the captain of the early years of that show was a huge motivator in them staying together. Because you also, like, you can't find another reason why any logical person would have stayed in that relationship. But when she was sitting in this most recent episode with Sierra down at the seaport, talking about how they were in therapy and they were talking about all the things and the therapist was like, literally, why are you too married?

It's like, yeah, we've been saying that. You're just now having this realization. Definitely blinded by like the fame of it all. Yeah. Okay. So if that's the truth and that's her M.O., then yeah, she'll be back on the show. Because she was on the show in the very beginning,

like just briefly, like as a girl who came over with Kyle. Like she became the mainstay and got the master bedroom, like through her own hard work. Like, yeah. She was not given to her. Yeah. So I think then she's interested in the show. It's not like she's always just been doing it for Kyle

because she loves Kyle and this is his thing. I just feel like only a crazy person would like put themselves back. Like the whole fandom hates you. Well, I guess they're saying the worst possible things about you. On the contrary. the only place to go is up. Agreed. And like maybe,

and I think this is what they should have done when they established that they were having feelings for each other, was like really hold off and like, be friends, give it time and then if they could have waited until this summer to start falling for each other. And like we could have all seen that and rooted for it a little bit and been like,

okay, this is inconvenient, but like you can't fight how you feel. They've been separated for almost a year now. It's now three summers of no West and Sierra. Like maybe West and Amanda, maybe we could have even shipped. Yeah, no, it wasn't thoughtful or strategic at all. Yeah, I really think that if they really wanted to be together

and cared about how it played out, that they should have waited for the summer. Also, my take on their relationship, Amanda and West, up until this point, is that he feels trapped. She likes him more than he likes her. He can't leave for a million reasons, you know, because then all of this will have been for nothing. She might, you know, spiral really badly.

So he just feels like he has to be there. But I do feel like maybe this grandma thing, like when you go through something like that, like you need a partner. And like Amanda's just sort of, it seems to me, like dying to be that person for him. Yeah. And so to be able to have someone who you can grieve with,

who you can, when you literally have nobody, like it seems like he has literally nobody in this wife. Like Jesse's mad at him. I don't know, this could just be the thing. Like maybe they would never go work out, but now they might. This like life was thrown at them. I do hope it was mentioned on the reunion because to know he's sitting there, like knowing his

grandma was just murdered. And he's like, and nobody's there for him. Like, I just heard. And now we know why he was literally mute. It just all sort of feels like null and void. If it wasn't acknowledged. It's like not a fair fight. But genuinely, how on earth could it have been acknowledged?

It was not public knowledge until yesterday. No, but like say he found out that night. And then the morning he shows up to the reunion. and he tells his producer. Okay, wait, so yeah. But you know what? It's possible that he didn't even know. If it happened that night, police,

he wakes up super early in glam, you're not on your phone. Or he would have found out that day. If he didn't know already, he would have found out in the middle, on lunch break. So he's sitting there, like, in complete shock,

talking about things that, like, genuinely don't matter. Yeah. Like, his grandma was just shot by his cousin. Yeah. Oh, I really wonder. I wonder if the person who leaked could let us know that.

Also, you know, they say that the Bravo fan who helped Bravo crack the case is Jennifer Lawrence. I thought that was a joke. No, and like that's why people are saying they're going to like interview the Bravo fan because it's not some rando.

It's Jennifer Lawrence, according to blogs. Oh my God, I saw that as like a joke, like an example of a Bravo super fan. No, I think like it actually was. Why? Because she was able to hear like where the audio must have been coming from. No, maybe she knows people in the industry. Like maybe she just used her privilege.

Oh, I thought it was because if you listened to the clip and Kyle was saying this, Clearly, like, if all the levels sound the same but unedited, it was coming through a speaker, not on set, someone in the audio room. And Jennifer Lawrence might have been able to hear for that, having been on so many sets. No, because anyone could do that.

Really? Once we found out. Because we were thinking it was a cast member, but once you decide that it's not, like, it could be anyone. No, I don't know exactly what she provided, but I believe we'll find out. Maybe she'll all watch up and live or something. That's funny.

She's so funny. Like that's, yes. When you're an A-List star and you love reality TV, like that's how you use your star power for good. Yeah. So I guess we'll wait to hear more on this situation. What a horrible tragic story. And I agree with you.

I feel bad for him. I don't think there's another way to feel about it. No, of course. And I just can't imagine what's worse, him knowing all this and then having to go to this reunion where everyone hates him. It's just like dog pile. And he sits there not saying anything. And now we know why, even though I don't think he would have been standing up for

Amanda that hard, even if it wasn't the case. But now we know he's, like, processing quite literally something nobody, like, this is not a relatable thing. Like, people's grandma's die all the time. Not at the hands of their cousin. Like, this is so crazy. I actually feel bad. Yeah.

Yeah. And then, like, if you see. Or he didn't know, and he just had, like, the worst day ever filming the reunion. He comes back to his dressing room. Grandma died and it was cousin Earl or whatever his name was. Sweeney. Right. Yeah.

Oh, my God. What a weird twist of events. Yeah, a twisted story. Yeah. Well, we'll stay tuned. Yeah. And when is Summer House like over? How many more episodes are there?

I have the feeling it's like four more weeks. Ugh, that's so many. Yeah. But I don't know why I feel that way. Maybe it's less. I feel like it's like two more weeks. I think so. Yeah.

That feels right. TFR. On the one hand, it's like they want to get to the reunion so that they don't lose us. but on the other hand, like, everybody's watching. That's major ad dollars. Milking, milking, milking. Yeah. Okay, our next story, some biz music news.

Taylor Swift's Spotify clauses paying artists real money now. So major music news and the Taylor Swift of it all and how it relates is that Taylor Swift has spent years fighting for artists first over streaming economics, ownership rights. However, one of the most consequential clauses she ever negotiated is now paying off. The Spotify deal that she secured as part of her 2018 contract with Universal Music Group, is coming through, according to the singer's team, triggering payouts to artists tied to profits from UMG's sale of its Spotify shares.

So when she signed with UMG, after leaving Big Machine, she made one condition non-negotiable. She actually made a few. But for this story, a payout now. As part of my new contract with Universal Music Group, I asked that any sale of their Spotify shares result in a distribution of money to their artists,

non-recoupable. She posted back then in 2018, and a hand style written note on her social media. The final word non-recupable is what makes the provision so significant because they will have to pay every artist on their roster, regardless of if that artist owes them money and hasn't paid back in advance or this or that. Oh, wow, yeah.

Because like those contracts, like especially with small young artists, it's like it's literally debt. You're signing away your whole life. Yeah, so everybody gets paid regardless of where they're at in their contract when Universal Music Group shows their shares of Spotify, which they are set to do. Yeah, so when she was looking for a new record label, I think a lot of companies didn't even entertain the possibility of having her because she had a lot of like stipulations as it related to other artists. Like of course she wanted a great deal for herself and she could have gotten that anywhere. But she also wanted them to change their like fee structure of how they pay artists for streams. You get like half a cent for a million streams. Like it's insane. So she wanted wherever she went to like restructure their Spotify streaming numbers. And then yes, UMG, which is I guess like a huge shareholder in Spotify if they ever were to sell those shares. Procees,

go to them, but also all their artists, non-recoupable. I didn't know that non-recrucible thing. She's just a queen for that. And it's funny how many artists hate her. And it's like Billy Elish gets a check in the mail from the girl she can't stop talking shit about. Like you're welcome. No, and it's like everyone like in their speeches. It's like, you know, value artists.

And they're just like all talk, talk, talk. Yes. Here she's walking the walk. And like nobody even, I feel like her fellow artists don't appreciate her. I feel like her fans know what she does for artists. The world knows. everybody knows like she even she withheld her music from Spotify for so many years do you remember that got about that you couldn't listen to taylor swift on spotify that's insane yep and she was putting like doing all this work

with apple music because they were the only people that's where you used to buy music and it's like a better pay structure for artists and yes she withheld her music for a while and she only joined when they changed their structure so everybody's getting paid more everybody in the industry hates her but everybody loves to be like artists rights and we own our art and like here's taylor ship you're a hundred percent where like actually walking the walk and talking the talk and everybody hates her like please they're so jealous even for apple music like there was a point where artists wouldn't get paid for anything any of their music stream during like a seven day free trial right right right and she made them change it I mean that's insane yeah no she's such a queen for that and I just would love to hear from billy and phineas

to missugina miserable fucks are they at umg I don't know actually Azar Larson was just going on about How is she like, everyone loves to shade Taylor all the time. And here they are reaping the benefits, either through UMG or through Spotify, of Taylor's work. So you just love to see her doing charity for those less fortunate. Also, oh, she's at dark room and inner scope, Billy Elish, but also like Chapo Roan, that's speech that she gave. Yes, about health insurance.

Right, right. No, and it's like there are lots of legitimate arguments to make about, like, the record label industry. You know, it's so toxic. I believe Kanye West once said it was modern day slavery. Like, there's lots of discourse around it. And the only time I've ever heard of actual change being enacted is Ms. Taylor Swift. Or when people like skirt the whole system and never get a record, like chance the rapper,

like completely independent always and had the biggest music ever without a label like ever. Yeah. But besides that, I don't really, people just love to like talk about it but not do anything. Yeah. And like not think the person who's doing something. and like using her power for good and sharing. No, but instead they love to like use her name and they like, you know, say negative things

just literally so their interview gets picked up. No one was going to read that interview with Zarn Larson anyway, you know? Yeah. You know that song is so good. In that song kiss, get onto the ramps. Yeah, I've been influenced by TikTok. When I was driving on the highway, I couldn't change the music that was playing.

So whatever, just like kept playing. I was either feeling like very grateful to certain artists who like their song coming. Or like in prison. Or I was seriously in prison. Like turn this racket off. But I couldn't press the button. Do you not have buttons on the steering wheel? Not for next.

I mean, I could have done the voice command and been like playing next song. But I literally. That's a lot of work. I wasn't moving a finger or Claudia. Oh, usually they have just like the next previous or forward. No, I mean, it's right to the right of me on my screen like next. No, you can't. But a song that came on that I was appreciative of was ruined my life by Zara Larson.

I want you to ruin my life. It may to ruin my life Yeah I want you to fuck up my nights here Fuck up my nights here All of my nights here She's having like a key asylum Yeah she is

She's broken free Not 100% though I feel like she's still She's like going really viral On the internet It's very contained to TikTok I don't feel like it's taken mainstream yet As someone in the mainstream

It has not Do you know the song Midnight Sun? No what you were just singing singing again Oh really I never ending Midnight Sun And then the dance, you know?

What you were singing sounds a little bit familiar, but yeah, she's now sort of in the TikTok asylum. Which is like, I feel like as though the waiting room. Yeah, for sure. But you can still go back in. It's a halfway house. Yes, yes. And everyone uses her as like an example of somebody who broke free,

but I think it's premature. She's breaking free. No, no, because even if like nothing, if she doesn't go any further, like she's free from Kia because she was nowhere. She was nowhere, yeah. Just symphony. She's somewhere.

Yeah. So she's broken free. But like how far she can run? She's still very much on parole. Yeah, I agree. She could always come back. Speaking of music, actually, Kara Delavine is starting a music career.

She launches her music career and announces a tour. Wow, that's crazy. So she's ready to add musician to her resume. She announced that she'd be kicking off her music career with an 11th city tour through Europe, the UK, and North America. She said, to announce my first ever headline shows been locked in rehearsals i can't wait to play these shows prestale starts tomorrow oh no today um she said that music has been her biggest fear and her

greatest love she cannot believe we're finally here you know what hell yeah i used to like this makes sense yeah i feel like in some of her movies she's like you know the girl who sings yeah i never the way you should feel your whole lot i never heard her sing but like now i say i her as like a Suki Waterhouse type where like, oh my God, you took the words out of my mouth. Taylor or Jason friend who's a model, also actress, also singer. Like she's got a song in her heart and like she's just going to go and be a singer now. Okay. And it's hard to imagine Taylor having like such a lifelong friend who was like no interest in music.

It's Taylor's whole life. Yeah. And I feel like when you're like a party girl and just like when you party, you like music. Yeah. When you like to party, you like music too because you party with music. The last we had reported about Taylor's wedding was that she was getting married in the city, right? Yeah, in New York.

Yeah, I got a tip, so just take this with a grand of self, that she's getting married in the Hamptons. And then it kind of does make sense maybe Michael Rubin moving his party to Wednesday because everybody's going to be in the Hamptons for the wedding that weekend. They'll come early for the party. That's just what I heard.

Why would she get married in the Hamptons? Has she ever even been to the Hamptons? I don't know, it's so, like, not a place. As far as I know, that's like a part of her story. With Travis, Or otherwise. No, not at all. And imagine owning they picked up the home and called it holiday house and not getting married

there. Like what's the point? Sell the house. And like, road out, you know, where does she live? Holiday House. Where is that? Watch Hill. Is the Hamptons of the North Island.

Yeah, I don't know why she wouldn't just drive one extra hour north. Maybe it's like, it's such a small town. And like the Hamptons is too, but the Hamptons is really used to like billionaire parties and yachts. Like there's the infrastructure there. But there's infrastructure at Wachill because that hotel. Yeah, Castle Hill. That's where Olivia Copo got married. And it's parjolicious.

Yeah. So she could have had her. I'm sorry. By the way, it could be wrong, but I'm just letting you know what I've heard. I'm open to it, but it just makes zero sense. Did you drop your coffee? No, my lip gloss. Oh my God.

You have to like seriously move your table. You're always filling your coffee. And I always need that one time. Like away from your elbow, like move it forward. I feel my coffee once. That's one too many times. But like it's actually crazier that it hasn't happened more. Yeah.

But I just heard a sound. Oh my God. I just need it. Like my heart stuff. I feel like you. Of course. You feel like you when Ben walks in. Absolutely.

I feel like me on the toilet. You okay? Yeah. Oh my gosh. Okay. Counting my blessings. I don't have to clean up coffee right now. So if she were to get married in the Hamptons,

I'm not sure like what venue exactly. maybe like someone's insanely palatial 100 acre estate. Like a horse farm or something. But I'm just glad that we'll be in the Hamptons all summer just in case. Foods on the ground. That's what we're going. Yeah, we could be like caterer waiters. We can get like local jobs when we find out for sure.

Like we can become like the Bob Mitzville motivators, like the people who show up with the DJ. We can be any of these same. Like we're so versatile. We can obviously be catererators. We could be bartenders, of course. Motivators, dancers. Oh, I would be one of those girls who like, you know, wears a dress that serves champagne.

I can be one of the hands. If they have a champagne wall and like, you know, the champagne flute like pokes out of the grass wall. Yeah. That could be me too. You could do valet and crash everyone's cars. Actually, you couldn't do valet.

No, I couldn't. I could not. I don't think I could do valet either. I actually don't know a job more stressful, especially at, like, I feel like valet is like a high class thing. So it's like lots of expensive cars. I could never.

And driving all different kinds of cars. Stick shift, like electric, not electric. And then you also, once you park it, You have to keep moving them because it's like Tetris. You got to get the other car out. So let me move this Tesla. Like, oh my God, stress.

Nightmare. Nightmare. It's actually, I think, my nightmare job. Yeah, absolutely. And you have to run to the cars. How much do you think they're spending on their wedding? Just like between the two of them, between like security, obviously like flowers and stuff. But things you don't have to think about if you're not Taylor Swift, like security and PR.

Two million. Well, that's so funny. I was going to say 10 million. How much was the Bezos wedding? That's a great question. How much did the Bezos wedding cost? They say between 46 million and 55 million. No fucking way.

And also how would we even know what it costs? Because of the Jets. They had 90 private jets. That's like $10 million right there. Okay, so maybe $2 million is low. $5 million. Oh, look, here, Google Gemini is breaking it down. Venue and accommodations.

The celebration was held in Venice, guests staying at luxury hotels. I guess they paid for everyone, like, on Venice. And roughly they're saying that they spent half a million dollars per night for everyone. Okay, two million is so low, I'm sorry.

Security and logistics, $6 million was spent on private jet security with guests using 30 private water taxis. I don't know if Taylor's going to fly everyone in private. Like, that's a thing like only desperate people do, and that's so Bezos, I just want to say. Entertainment and Catering, the celebration included high profile guests, top tier

entertainment, with catering costs estimated to exceed a million dollars. and over $1.6 million was spent on roses, $2 million on wait staff. There's the wait staff budget. But theirs was a whole weekend. It's Taylor's one night. Is it a whole weekend?

Is it a welcome party? A rehearsal dinner? I think it's a weekend because it's July 4th. You don't do a holiday weekend unless you're programming the whole thing. There's going to be like a big All-American barbecue, maybe like the day after the wedding. There's going to be a rehearsal dinner.

There's going to be a brunch. There's going to be a welcome party. A boat day. I can't friggin' wait. I can't fucking wait. And honestly, thank God we're going to be in the Hamptons. We can be reporting. Yeah. Well, speaking of royalty, are you ready for our next?

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and more at the New York Public Library. To promote literacy. Yeah, the queen loves reading. She's a big reader. She's definitely a redhead. It's weird when you say the queen. You're talking about Camilla. I know, but she's the queen.

No, the queen is Queen Elizabeth, and Queen Camilla is Camilla. I know. But as I'm like watching. It's actually a queen. No, but she's a queen. Yeah, but she's queen conspire. But didn't Elizabeth say that she will be queen?

No, they gave her a pass finally. They made it right. And it's like actually, she's actually a really good queen. And it's actually like so frustrating to me that they didn't just let Charles marry her when he was in love with her as a boy. That's the takeaway from the crown. Like if you watch a whole thing, how stupid they made so much trouble for themselves. Like typically I believe like everything happens for a reason. Like things are meant to be the way.

But like no, that's actually that was wrong. And the crazy thing is that like the only, her only real crime was like being divorced. It's like that that's surrogously not even. I thought it was that she wasn't a virgin. Because she was divorced. She was divorced when he liked her. Wasn't she just his school friend? But she was like fast?

I thought you were going to say fat. Wait, okay. So when they first wanted to get married, hold on me just chat. No, you're right. Hold on. When Charles first wanted to marry Camilla, why did the royal family not let him, question mark? When he was a boy.

I'm pretty sure it was because she was divorced. I thought they fell in love before she even got. married the first time, but then she got married so they couldn't be together. She wasn't seen as a suitable royal bride. They had very traditional expectations. They wanted the queen to be from an aristocratic background and untarnished, which is a polite way of saying no serious prior relationship. Camilla, while upper class had a well-known romantic history, including an on-and-off

relationship with Andrew Parker Bowles, which made her less idea. So they weren't even married that she just had a boyfriend. And she was an aversion. Charles and Camilla met around 1970 and quickly became close, but then Charles went away for royal service in the Navy, and then Camilla rekindled things with Parker Bowles. So by 1973, she had married Andrew Parker Bowles and closed the door, at least for that moment.

Senior courtiers and family members were very influential. They steered Charles towards someone who fit the traditional mold of a future queen. Camilla just didn't meet the image at the time. That's so fucked up. And also, like, I wonder how that makes Camilla feel, like literally being told like you're not good enough. You can't be the queen. You're poor.

You're trash. And like we don't see her as like a real person but like that's a sort of thing that would really fuck you up for life. Stay with you. A hundred percent. Like nobody thought I was good enough. Even though she's highborn. She wasn't married.

When they first liked each other if it had if they had gotten the family's blessing like they would have gotten married. But when he went to service like of course she has to move on for with her life. No, of course. And it's like you can create the, you know, a high-born woman you'd like to see in this world, right? Like they could have made her into a fancy lady. But no, he goes, marries Diana. They get divorced.

She's nutty having affairs. He's having an affair. The tampon. No, all of that. But no, because she had a boyfriend. Like, please. In hindsight, what they ended up going through was so much worse than the Future King marrying somebody who didn't have a title. No, the future king marrying someone who like whose personality, like you didn't like the most.

No, it wasn't her personality. No, but it was just like her circumstances. Her circumstances, but also like her history. Like I think she had like boyfriends and like it was just she wasn't untarnished, as they say. And that is why they loved that Kate Middleton so much. She went to the Camilla Parker Bull School of Aristocracy. Like her parents put her in the right school. She didn't have a title, so she is technically a commoner.

But it was such a less big deal because she went to the schools and she was with him when she the time she was 18 and she waited around. Like they knew what they were doing. Also the public and the family were much more open to a commoner. Modern. It's actually a win. They learned their lesson. It was a win for the family because the idea of Charles getting marrying a woman who had previous boyfriends and was not a virgin and didn't have a title but was like highborn because she was highborn. Otherwise how would they know each other?

Verses which is like, you know, that was bad to them versus what they actually had to go through to get married. two marriages, children, divorced, death, the tampon, the champon. Cheating, wiretapping. The tampon, the headlines. Yeah, right. All of that is so much worse and such a bigger stain on the monarchy. And I think we don't talk enough, like, as a society about how their story is like a true love story.

Like, say what you want about them. But I do believe they have, like, a deeply happy marriage. Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about. has stood the test of time from 1970. These two can't quit each other. And also, if I remember correctly, I do feel like he was sent off to service to take him away from Camilla.

Yes, it wasn't just like, oh, the war picked up. No, it was intentional. Like to drive a wedge between them. Meanwhile, what, he waited. He waited another 15 years to get married after that. When did he marry Diana in the 80s? Yeah. Not good.

Very poorly handled. So I just want to say, it must be hard to be Camilla. and living with that. I agree. Even though I do think that her constituents, because we're talking about it

from like a very American POV, her subjects, like I actually think they love her in the UK. But imagine how she feels about herself, like knowing that growing, she was never good enough. No, and now she like lives in the castle

with all the people who like, reinforce that narrative. And like in Diana's shadow. I actually don't think that's the case if I'm being completely honest. I think her whole life has been in Diana's shadow. But I think Charles, when he became king,

like I think he has like a lot of, of really modern takes and like I think he got rid of all those advisors and people who like said that shit about camilla and I think that he's like starting fresh no but I think and I don't even think of Diana anymore like I feel like Charles in regards to Charles he has modern takes but now he is like in his 70s and there's a way of doing things and even like he's now being the elder statesman to like Harry that they were to him where it's like get mine act right yeah so anyways they are on a U.S. tour, which is just so exciting.

I don't know why. It feels like such a big deal, but they never come. They don't come. And so it's always exciting when they come here, which I can't remember the last time they did, or we go there. I remember the last time.

It was, I think William and Kate, they were like in California. Oh, that was exciting. And they went to the... That was very exciting. Yeah, that was. But when did the king and the queen come? I don't...

In my lifetime, I can't remember when Lilibet came. Right, but she did. Apparently, she addressed Congress once. And then... Well, King Charles addressed Congress yesterday. He just did the second time that's happened and since Queen Elizabeth. So they spent two days in D.C.

Then they went to New York. She had an event at the public library for like Sarah Jessica Parker, Anna Wintour, very bookish. And then they're having like their gala for the King's Trust. And then they're going to Virginia. What's in Virginia? In Virginia is,

they're going to be meeting with local residents and community organizations. they will also attend a block party in a national park to celebrate America's 250th birthday. Oh, it's America 250, that's why. It's a little awkward for them now. I feel like we've all gotten to a good place. I know, but it's like what we're celebrating at the core of it

is like breaking free from you bastards. And like it's like your great, great grad. Fuck you. Although I do feel like a lot of growth has happened and there's like no heart feelings anymore. Like we obviously came out on top. So we're the greatest country in the world. and like we did that off of your backs

and like you guys are big losers now. So I feel like they have to sort of come with their tail between their legs. Yeah, but like we go so hard for the Independence Day. And it's like we're riding against you. I don't like you. You.

Well, I don't like your great grand. Great grand George. So yeah, it's George was, whom? King George. No, I know, like in relation to Charles. Great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great. Like, George, and then how many people are between King George, the one during the 1776,

and then, like, Lilibet's dad? Oh, how many kings are in, like, a 150-year span? Oh, but it's not even great, great, great because of the abdication, right? But they still would share a grandfather. Oh, okay, okay. You know? Yeah, maybe, yeah. And, like, 1776 is actually not that long.

No, it's like... Because people live like 80. Yeah, and I also think about like Henry the 8th. Like there was a lot of like zigzag, you know. Right. Because we had like the first Queen Elizabeth, but she didn't have kids. So who did it go to? I miss the crown.

I miss the crown. Victoria. Victoria took up a huge chunk of those years of the 1800s. Oh, did she? Yeah. That's like a little, it's just like outside of my, over my head. You have to watch. If you miss the crown.

I've seen it. I've seen it. So good. That is good. So good. And it's like it's her cousin, you know? So good. She's out there like having babies and fucking her cousin.

Like it's just, it's tough. You guys have to watch Victoria if you like the crown. Yeah, it's good. It's good. Justice for Victoria's season three. Netflix says it's coming. But it wasn't a Netflix show. Oh no, that's the heiress.

My bad, by bad. Empress. Yeah, whatever. Yeah, also great. Also a great watch. Also a great show. Yeah. Our fifth and vinyl story.

Sorry, are you ready? Mm-hmm. Christine Quinn and Heather Ray El Moussa are officially returning to selling sunset. So, exciting for selling sunset fans, those who remain. Do those people exist? This news did nothing for me. My heart rate remained, like, exactly where it was. Except that the headlines said it was season 10 of selling sunset.

And that was shocking. Because I watched the first two seasons, and it was like some of the best TV, like, you had to be there. And after that, like, the magic is truly gone. I didn't even know that it was still on. Yeah. To be honest, I thought they had like a bunch of space. Benoffs, O.C. in Tampa. They do. I see that it's still on. You know, what's her name? Cichelle. She left, too. She left too. Mary. They'll have to pull that show for Mary's cold dead hands.

Mary, Mary, quite contrary. But Christine and Heather Ray are back, which I think is great because they were some of the biggest names that came from the show. I understood why they didn't bring Christine back at the time. But, like, they need her and because she was the villain that was a mistake though and Heather Heather's like great television yeah I think Heather thought like you know she didn't need the show anymore she had HD TV um but now they're back I like I don't care the show is so fake it's so fake it's people are fake the house is to shame it's it's literally a scripted show yeah half the girls don't even have their real estate licenses like it's just fake it's so although it did give us Simulio Raise your hand if your introduction to Simulio was his episode of Saling Sunset. And raise your hand if that's really the only body of Simulio's work that you've consumed.

Oh, you play pickleball. I did play pickleball like us last summer with Simulio, so. He was really good. He was. I'm sure he was. Yeah. That's so Simo. And then his partner, like who, like I know and that's how we got connected.

Pickleball partner? Yeah, his pickle. Oh yeah, sorry, not like life partner. Pickleball partner who like invited us to the game is like a former collegiate. it tennis player. Like me and Ben just got fucking crushed. Cushed. Crushed.

Damn. Well, I think I won't be watching this, but I think it's... I think I won't be watching this as well. But it's a good idea. Yeah. Netflix, like for me, is losing the reality games. I feel like they... I feel like they put traditional reality TV, like cable networks, really all the balls

of their ass. Like, they came out hot with like all these different shows. Love is Blind. Two Hot to Handle, like all these dating competition shows. And the momentum, it's suddenly. Sunset. The momentum like kind of went nowhere. And now I feel like Hulu is the new Bravo. They picked up the baton. And Bravo's still up there. I just want to say. Like, yeah. But Netflix is reality. When I see a show is like a reality show on Netflix, I'm almost never going to watch it.

Like the Netflix of it all makes it fake. Like I just don't like how they do reality TV. Yeah. Yeah. Also like I'm scared of and for Christine Quinn coming back. Like I feel like she's going. Like she was scary before. And now that she like has something to prove. like she's literally going to be the scariest bitch alive. Even though she said like motherhood has softened her and she's coming in with a new perspective. Sure. Like I feel like she's going to eat these girls for breakfast.

Yeah. I also think, you know how when people don't know like that Alex Earl Alex Cooper drama, they're like, these two people are the same different. I feel that way about Christine Quinn and Erica Jane. Like they are twins. And if I didn't watch either of the shows and they have similar personalities. Yeah. Yeah.

But like more of that, you know. Cut throat. Cut throat. So yeah. think these other girls, I don't know who they are, like, they should be scared. Yeah. Yeah. And hopefully her and Heather are friends.

I won't know because I'm not watching, but, um. They aren't. They can't be. I'm sorry. Like, they are too different. But I like Heather. I like her too. Yeah.

I love her husband. Of course. Those are the fast-sized stories you needed to know. And you did. Well, the place looks beautiful. It always does. Thank you so much. Listening to the Tozlo-Lum

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