The Toast - Memoirs of A Tyler with Tyler Cameron: Friday, June 20th 2025

Episode Date: June 20, 2025

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It's Jackson Claude and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show, the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly, it's The Toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast. They sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast, happy Friday. Today is a celebration because it's Friday. We're sliding on into the weekend and we have a very special guest co-host today,

Tyler Cameron, you probably know him as Tyler C. Originally from The Bachelor, now just home renovator to the stars and the pups. Welcome Tyler, welcome back to The Toast. You've been on The Toast a million times. Yes, happy Friday. You've never co-hosted. Never co-hosted, I get to do it with you,

which is exciting. Yeah, really fun. We're gonna rip this. We are gonna rip this, I'm really excited. We have some fun stories, you're making a little news. You're always making news. Do you find that about yourself? I didn't know I was making the news

until you told me a minute ago. I know, I pulled up the stories and it's like Tyler Cameron says Matt probably regrets his Instagram post about Rachel. Yeah. I feel like that's a fair thing to say. Yeah I mean like he got a lot of backlash for it. I think you know he probably if he could do it all over again he would. Yeah. I think that's pretty fair and simple and easy to say. Yeah and I'm glad for that for him. How are you doing? How's life for you? I feel like you're in such a great phase of your life

with your leading lady. Yeah, life's good. I got a great girlfriend. I'm kind of figuring out my next steps in life and I'm kind of diving into the real estate in South Florida. But also doing some fun stuff in entertainment still. You did your own house.

I did my own house. With tape. With tape, yeah. She designed the whole thing, and honestly probably built most of it. She has like a design and building background. Not really. She came into it because of you?

So like she always wanted to, but this was like her first true experiment. And she went all in and went for it. It looks amazing. She did incredible. And you obviously are a builder. Yep, I'm a builder, but really like a finger pointer. She's like the builder, you know what I mean?

I'm like hiring the guys, trying to get the prices right, doing all that. Also important. And she's like firing the painters, kicking them out, and like, I'll do this myself. They're getting shit everywhere. And then she's painting the 16 foot ceilings on a scaffolding.

Does she use power tools? Yeah, we call her Power Tool Tate. That's kind of my dream. I like see these reels and videos of women who like, are like, fucking, I'm gonna learn how to build cause I want this reading bench in my room. This is your dream? Yeah, well, it's too far away.

Well, 45 minutes up the road, it's not far away. We can get you and make your dream come true. We'll give you some power tools. Give me some lessons. And also I want my husband, like why can't we build our own stuff? Like I need a bookshelf. Because you have a great podcast.

You can pay for it. It's true. But I feel like there's something so, it feels different when your house is done. And like it feels amazing when your house is done and you didn't lift a finger, but it must feel like insanely different. Like Noah from the notebook when you like build your own house from the ground up. Basically we are, I am Noah. You are Noah.

She's Ali. She's getting the house with the blue up. Basically, we are, I am Noah. You are Noah, she's Ally. She's getting the house with the blue shutters. It's true. Yeah, the white house with the blue shutters. She's getting that. She is getting that. Well, your house looks amazing and you guys seem so happy and she's so cute.

How long have you been together for? Because I know like you guys were together privately for a while. We're almost on our two years, so yeah. So it's been fun. What are you thinking? We're definitely taking those steps. No, I won't be annoying. No, she is fantastic.

And I'm very, very happy. She's like, couldn't have a better partner. Yeah. And a better friend and a better girlfriend. Sympathetic. And I feel like over the years when you came on the toasting, you would talk about your type and what you're looking for. She is that.

I found it. Yeah. Yeah, I found it. It was in my backyard. Is she from your hometown? No. So she's from Cincinnati. Is she from your hometown? No, so she's from Cincinnati, but she lived in Jupiter for like seven years before.

So I was always kind of like, what were you doing? Right, that's so rare. Who'd you hang out with? You must've been a weirdo. So I still kind of look at it a little strangely that I didn't see her ever in Jupiter. She said she saw me. And then she was like,

like this girl was like, oh my God, that's that kid from the bachelor. She's like, him? Yeah. You know? And here we. She's like, him? Yeah. You know? And here we are. And here we are. Yeah.

That's great. Do you golf? I try, I try. Ben's always trying to get me out. Yeah. And I have yet to golf with Ben because he's always down here and I'm always missing him here

or I'm in New York and I'm missing him there. But I suck. Whenever I think of Juba, I think of like golf because I just watch full swing. Yeah, it's like the golf capital world. Right. Everybody lives there. Growing up, did you feel pushed to golf?

No, I grew up with just a redneck dad who was like, you're going to play football, son. You're going to hit him hard. You know, and I did that. And now I look at all my friends that are golfing and like, you know, some of them are pros. I'm like, God, I really missed the boat on that one. Yeah, but football is good too.

And you did like play in college. Like you did take it all the way. I took it almost all the way. Almost. Played in college, and then the Ravens invited me over for a cup of coffee and they kicked me out. And they weren't interested.

They weren't, you know, they brought me back twice. And then the second time they saw how banged up my body was, like, all right, you can't play football anymore. That's so interesting. What a fun fact. Did you talk to any other teams? No, just the Ravens. Were you bummed when it didn't happen?

Yeah, it was like the hardest, like it was like, cause like that was my identity my whole time, my life. You know what I mean? So like once that was like ripped away, I really- Bummed would be like a small life. I literally got, I literally, and then I tried to go pro again

and I blew out my shoulder and this like developmental league and I got dumped the next day. And then I was on a road trip for 14 days with my dad. So now I was like crying about wanting my girlfriend back, my football career is over. I'm like, what is my life gonna be? And look where it ended up.

And then it worked out. What'd you do immediately after college before the bachelor? I was working construction. I was like working for my pops. Like he set me up to build my first house. I was making like 200 bucks a week until I sold the house. And then the bachelor called him

like three weeks before I finished the house. So then he took all the money for the house. Right, because he finished it. Because he finished it. That's really funny. The bachelor called you. So I was home one day and I was studying and I saw an ad for the WWE. Sign up to join the WWE.

I was like, fuck yeah. Red Speedo kicking people's ass in boots. Like I want to do this. And I sent it to my buddies as like a joke, you know? And like, dude, you'd be so great at this. Cause I was like the maniac in the locker room always. And they're like, see what else you can find. So I found the Bachelorette,

sent in crazy stuff as well and sent it into them. And like, if I could show you the picture I sent to them, it was like the biggest tool pick I could find, but it worked. I think they liked that. Yeah, they loved it. So they called me like within a week, the WWE called me like six months later.

I was like, guys, the show already filmed. Yeah, I'm a big star now, bye. Yeah. That's so great. And are you still involved in Bachelor Nation at all now? Somewhat, I was just with Jason Tardik this past week. But in an official capacity, like with ABC and the show, like do they ever bring you in for stuff?

I've done, no, I don't think I've done anything with them in a while. Like I just did like, I've done something with ABC when I did like Extreme Home Makeover. I did like a little cameo on there. So that was fun. That is fun. Do you watch The Bachelor still?

Not really. I watch everything on TikTok now. Cause like, it just gives you the clips. That's what everyone I talk to on the show says. Like, I'm sure you're not watching Love Island. No, but I'm just watching. But I'm sure you're watching on TikTok. Cause like, I just gives you the clips. That's what everyone I talk to on the show says, like I'm sure you're not watching Love Island, but I'm sure you're watching on TikTok. I tried watching Love Island, then I was like listening to 22 year olds be like,

this is fire. Like, oh my God, like I love, I love you. I'm like, I can't listen to these people. No, it's really mind numbing. If I see them on TikTok. At 1.5 speed. Yeah, then it's like way better. Yeah. So I watched it on TikTok. That's what everyone said. And, then it's like way better. So I watched it on TikTok.

That's what everyone's saying. And I have two friends on the show. Who? So Taylor and Nick. Oh wait, I saw that Taylor was in a picture with Tate and like a group of people, they're friends. And then, so I assume that he's friends with you. And Nick, do they know each other outside of the show?

It would be, it's okay if they don't. They don't know each other outside of the show. You just happen to be friends with both of them. Yeah, so Tate did a TV show last summer that shot the whole show. Then they ended up canning it. What was it? And Taylor was on the show. It was like basically below deck was on a ranch. That's I think the photo I saw. It was like a bunch of people on a ranch and it looked like a cast. Tate was like a cowgirl. Like she used to work on horses like like for a ranch. They did like cutting horses and all that stuff.

Super cool. So she was always in that world, so this was like a perfect show for her to do. Yeah, why did not happen? Who was the production? I think the guys weren't that great on the show. Like they brought Taylor on late. Well, he seems sweet and I know he's your friend,

but I can understand why he might have not been like the best on the show. Like he's already not the best on the show. But he seems like a nice person. I feel like he's on vacation. Like he's already not the best on the show. But he seems like a nice person. He's hilarious. I feel like he's on vacation. Like he has zero interest in any of the girls. No, he's a silly goofy dude.

Like he has no interest in the girls. And weirdly the girl that he's coupled up with, like most of us are obsessed with him. We just want like so much more for her. And like he really can't. Alondria. Alondria. Love her. Love her. Yes.

You love her from TikTok. Yeah. Well, no, I didn't know her from, well, from her. From watching on TikTok. Watching on TikTok, yes, yes. And how do you go, Nick? And then, so Nick and I, so Nick was dating this girl, then I went on a date with this other girl. We all went to Orlando for a weekend

and like went to Disney and did all that stuff. Okay. And the only person I stayed in touch with after that weekend was Nick. So that tells you how that went. And he's another, like, he seems like a good dude. Like he's coming off well on the show. Even like Megan Thee Stallion came on last night's episode.

I'm sure you'll see it on TikTok today. I saw the mommy, mamacita. Oh, mommy, mamacita. Yeah, she, like she was talking about everyone, but you could tell like she like has a warm spot for Nick. As we all do, he seems like a good guy and like a voice of reason. I think he really is.

I think he is like a really nice kid. Like he was at FAU. I was a few years older than him and he's always just been like a good dude, nice dude. I think he treated his last girlfriend really, really is. I think he is like a really nice kid. He was at FAU. I was a few years older than him. And he's always just been like a good dude, nice dude. I think he treated his last girlfriend really, really well. I mean, there's nothing negative that comes out about him. Yeah. You know, I hate how everyone just tries to trash

everybody on this show. Oh, for sure. They like step on the show and it's just like, but then some people have the opposite experience. Like I'm sure you've heard about Jalen now. Yeah, everyone's like, what happened? I need to invite Jalen down to Jupiter. You do?

Because everyone's like, he doesn't travel at all. I'm like, well, we're going to bring him to Jupiter. It's not traveling far from Georgia. Well, but I'm sure after Norwegian cruises in Hilton are all like, come on out. We want to take you around the world. I'm sure like a local trip, because I think he's from the South, so maybe he could drive.

You can go on the Norwegian cruise giant ship, or you can come on my 26 foot boat, and we can have fun, you know? I feel like that might be more fun. You also came out with a song, a country song, a banger. Yes, you know, my songs were fun. Yeah. Not like Caitlin's song.

She's just going at my dog, Jason. Oh, is that what, I saw she just put out a ballad. Yeah, a ballad, yeah. Yeah, it's like Alone in Love. I came out with a ballad, too. What's your ballad? Drinking Beer on a Boat. Do you have more than one song?

No, just, well actually yeah, they made a remix, like a club mix to it. Oh, okay. Yeah. But still like one record. One record, yeah. Do you wanna sing more? No. It was just a one time thing.

So it was April Fool's joke. I called my buddies, because last year I did Only Fans for April Fool's. This year I was like, I'm changing career paths, I wanna dive into country music. I just wanna say, I didn't realize it was April Fools, I thought you were just coming out with a song, because who was it with?

It was with- Moonlight, Country Night, all those guys. Yeah, like real artists, so I was like, I thought you were just cameoing on a song, and why not? Yeah, well I called my buddies up, I was like, this is what I wanna do for April Fools this year, because they're country DJs and all that stuff. They're like, yeah, we'll do this.

And then within three hours, they sent me a whole song written up. They're like, yeah, we'll do this. And then within like three hours, they sent me like a whole song written up. They were like doing shrooms and Joshua Tree when I called them, so it worked out perfectly. That's perfect. And do you have like a nice voice on your, like acoustically? No, I'll tell you what, it was scary to be in the studio.

Like I'm pretty confident myself, but then you have 12 people in a studio with you, they're like, sing. I'm like, what? Have you ever sang before? in a studio with you, they're like, sing. I'm like, what? Have you ever sang before? No, I mean I sing in the car. You're like Troy Bolton, the football player who's singing. So that's what they were telling me,

we're gonna Zach Efron your voice, we're gonna computerize it and make it good. So I was like, all right, they'll make it happen. So they did, they made it work. It sounded really nice. They made chicken salad and chicken shit basically. I didn't even realize it was a joke. I thought that was just like a fun thing

that you decided to do. Cause like sometimes when you're in this job, I guess as like an influencer creator, like in the entertainment industry, sometimes you can like wake up and be like, I think I'll be a singer today. Yeah. And you have like teams of people who are like,

Tyler, you would be fabulous. Yeah, well I luckily have a good team that tells me no, you're an idiot. You do have a good team. So, but like, it's like the joke that won't end. Like I performed on Vegas, in Vegas with Dustin Lynch. I performed as stage coach on the Bud Light stage. I performed, I'm performing,

I'm getting paid to go perform in St. Pete for the St. Pete Music Fest at the acoustic stage. I'm like, guys, we can't do the acoustic stage. Wait, I'm kind of obsessed. Yeah, so. Do you think you'll do any more music? No, hopefully this is the end of our run here. Are you enjoying yourself?

Maybe next year I'll do an R&B song, I'll just change genres. When you get on the stage, like. Maybe I'll write a ballad to Tate. To Tate, she deserves it. What would you call it? You guys, you should do a cover of Wrecking Ball, like for all of the demos and how.

I'll call it, Love with stank stank is that her nickname I gave her like a million nicknames oh I'm a nickname person too but I didn't come stank stank stank stank stank stank that's cute I call my son stonky so like that's similar mm-hmm yeah no so maybe maybe next year before it'll be our be some but then you can't make it a joke though you know yeah no no no that's not that wouldn't be like so funny, but maybe, I think you should like lean in more, maybe more country, maybe a cameo.

I'll talk to my team. They'll probably tell me no. I don't know. I feel like you're so, you can't put Tyler C in a box. Like all the people who have come from The Bachelor, I feel like your career has so far surpassed The Bachelor and like you really get creative about the things that you do,

while also still being like in line with who you are. Like having, being on a home, a makeover show, like when you did the home, the things that you do, but while also still being in line with who you are. Being on a home, a makeover show, when you did the building houses for dogs, so cute. Yeah, well, I think one, you can't take yourself too seriously. I'm giving this opportunity. I can kind of throw darts at the board

and just see what sticks and have fun. And whatever sounds fun is what I like to do. So doing a country song with my friends and drinking beer on a boat to shoot the video, ton of fun. Yeah, and Matt was in the video too. Matt was in the video. Yeah, that was good. I'm rooting for Matt, how's he doing?

He's doing well, he's doing well. I think he had to go through that storm, and I think he's now on the other side of it, and he's just back to eating and running. Eating and running, and he's been learning about the Jewish people. Yes, he is. I've been seeing a lot. I love it. I know. It's really cute. I know, he's trying like learning about the Jewish people. I've been seeing a lot. I'm like, I love it.

I know. It's really cute. I know, he's trying to get me to come to some of these- Shabbat dinner. Shabbat dinners, yeah. So our board, we have this lady, she's like, tell Matt to come to mine. You know what I mean?

So he's like opening a bite to everyone's Shabbat, apparently. That's really so cute. And not to say, I know I said I'm rooting for Matt, like I'm not team Matt or team Rachel. I really like both of them. And I think people can break up and that's what's best for them and that that's okay.

It's definitely like, I think they're both in better spaces now and they're better. They're happy. It just probably didn't go about it the right way. Yeah, the post. I think without that post that you say that he probably regrets, like it would have just gone differently.

And I don't think she would have, I think it just would have been less upsetting. I mean, yeah, is there a breakup post that ever goes well? No, but that was one of the weirdest of all time. That was the most weirdest of all time. It transcended my beliefs and understanding. We thought he was hacked. The mind games that we, the hoops we jumped through to try to understand

what that was. The internet was amazing at that point, cause it was just wild. Honestly, I was like, you guys, I had no idea. Someone was going to me, I was like, I don't know. And I was like, I don't wanna bug him. I try to call him just to see if I get some tea, nothing. So I was like, I'll just see him when I see him.

Yeah, yeah. But I'm happy for him. I saw Rachel like probably a month after all that went down and she's like happy, she's glowing. She seems to be thriving. Yes, so they're both very successful and happy now. Good, you love to see it. Like seriously rooting for both of them.

You're not gonna put me, you're not gonna paint me out that way. Yes. No, I'm not going down for that today. No. Not today. Well, we have a great show. No, I'm not going down for that today. Not today. Well, we have a great show. We're gonna do the Fast Five with Tyler C., which is so exciting.

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But I'm pulling for the Texans and the Bengals this year because we got old teammates to play for them. Oh, that's a good reason. That's funny that even though you're from here, you're not all the way Finns up. Yeah, no. There's no reason to. The Dolphins.

The Dolphins, we love you. And look at the Panthers. We need to be more Florida proud. Our teams are doing great. The Panthers are great. Are you a the Panthers. We need to be more Florida proud. Our teams are doing great. The Panthers are great. Are you a big Panthers fan? When they win. When they win.

Okay, what's like your tee, like what hats do you wear in your life? I got a hat that, it's like a historical hat. You know, the Texas Longhorns versus the USC Trojans, you know, 2012, like two. Oh wow, that's actually a good one. That's historical. Very historical.

Well, Travis Kelsey is talking about his decision to come back to the NFL. He said, it wasn't a very tough decision for me. I know I'm getting older, but at the same time, I still feel like I've got a lot that I can prove in this league. It really wasn't that hard of a decision. Yeah, I feel like he has another season in him. Like, we'll see how this one goes. But he's like been shredding. He's been down here. Good.

Like working out. I saw he's been in Boca. He's been down here. Good. Like working out. I saw he's been in Boca. He lives in Boca now. Yeah, he's in Palm Beach. He trains in Miami. Like he's kind of like the Florida man. Watch out. He's trying to become the Florida man.

He's got some lessons to learn though. But he's from Cincinnati, so I can't give him too much shit. That's where Tate's from. But I think what it is, he needs the fairytale ending. Yeah. He needs to win the Super Bowl and propose a tale like we all wanted two years ago. He didn't do it and he thought he was going to do it this year. So this year when he wins, he's going to get on one knee.

That's the fairy tale ending. Then he gets set off in the sunset and they can just be rock stars. But like, I guess the Chiefs have a really high chance of winning the Super Bowl. But I just feel like in general, like from the beginning of the season to getting to the Super Bowl, like it's, it's very hard to do. So I feel like he's setting the bar way too high for himself if that's the only way to go out. Like, couldn't he just have an amazing season?

Like, even though they didn't win last year, he also like didn't have the best season. Jackie, Jackie, they're champions. They are. And they're a dynasty. And they're a dynasty. And they're going to do whatever they can. Do you hate them? No, I love, I wanted them to win.

You didn't? To see three in a row, they them? No, I love, I wanted them to win. You didn't. To see three in a row, they lost to the Eagles. Oh, right, right, right. To see three in a row would have been amazing. Yeah, I didn't have a horse in that race, so I was just happy for football and for everyone. Go sports. Go sports, it was a go sports moment.

Well, sometimes I like certain teams. I feel like I have a lot of teams that I can love because I live in Florida and I'm from New York and my husband's from Dallas, so of course, we're always rooting for the Cowboys and we're always depressed. That's terrible. It's really sad. It's a sad way to live. from New York and my husband's from Dallas. So of course we're always rooting for the Cowboys and we're always depressed. That's terrible. It's really sad.

It's a sad way to live. Between New York and Dallas, you're screwed. No, I know. So that's why I take on all these other teams. And I do root for the Chiefs. I do. Yeah. So, you know, I hope he wins.

I hope he gets it. Yeah. Do you think that he will? I feel like he'll have a good season personally because he's like really working hard this summer. Yeah. I think he'll do well. I think last year he wasn't the same shape or wasn't like the same Travis Kelsey that we were all used to.

I think this year he's trying to shred down, like go out on top and do it right. And he knows he's running out of time and this is a way to solidify him as the guy. Yeah, yeah. I think it would have been premature if he didn't come back for another season. How do you feel about Aaron Rodgers going to the Steelers? Um, you know, just glad he's still playing

You know me too cuz I want to bet yeah exactly and he's very entertaining and he just kind of just says crazy stuff all The time so I just like people were like either you hate him or you love him Yeah, I'm kind of like in between. I just think he's just funny to listen to and watch and I completely agree Yeah, I think he's just interesting. I like interesting people. Yeah, and he's like, about his like ayahuasca, you know, benders. Have you ever done ayahuasca? I have not. Are you interested to do it?

I've tried anything once, not anything actually. That's a bad thing to say. That's what people say. Like they think that's like a sleigh. Be like, I tried anything once. Yeah, no, I don't think you should try everything once. No, that's not a good idea. But you're open to ayahuasca.

Do you have the itch at all, or if you've been your whole life? No, but I've heard people do it, and they've said it's pretty amazing. And I've heard some military guys talk about helping them with PTSD and all that stuff. And so I was like, it could be interesting to see what trauma or past it would bring up and how I would deal with it.

Yeah, that's a lot. I just feel like the lid's on the puddle pretty tight. Like, I'm not trying to take it off. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, who knows? You never know. Like, I feel like life could take you on an Ayahuasca trip,

like with your buddies down in Costa Rica. I think that's where it goes down. Exactly, yeah. I have, I won a trip to Costa Rica, so maybe I do it then, so. Yeah, where'd you win a trip to Costa Rica? I bought it at my gala. Oh, like you at an auction?

Yeah. Oh, that's nice. When are you gonna go? I don't have to book it still. I have till October to book it, so. Okay, well get on it. I know, I need to get to it. That will be so fun.

You'll go with Tate? Yeah, I'll go with Tate, bring a bunch of people. It'll be fun. Cool, okay, we'll see you in Costa Rica. And next, like now, when we see you there, we'll like, no, it's from the gala. We're doing Ayahuasca. We're see you in Costa Rica. And next, like now when we see you there, we're like, no. We're doing an ayahuasca. We're doing ayahuasca.

Do you think Tate would do it? No, she'd be like, you're an idiot. No, I'm so with her. Our next story is some exciting music news for Beyonce and Miley Cyrus fans, because Miley joined Beyonce for a live debut of To Most Wanted during the Cowboy Carter tour in Paris last night. So this was very exciting.

Beyonce took her tour to Paris, and Miley came out to perform their duet, To Most Wanted. They seriously both looked amazing, and the song is so good, and this must have been really exciting for the fans. Why can't we get that here in America? I don't know, why should we have to go all the way to Paris? Why are we giving that to the people in Paris?

No, that's so true. They already have crepes and all these other great things and cheaper Louis Vuitton. And like Miley lives in LA, like they could have easily done it in LA or like anywhere in the US would have been a shorter flight. I mean just like do it in Houston where Beyonce's from or do it, you know. No seriously, I heard, I just like saw some- I'm disgusted. I saw someone say on X that Beyonce

has a very special relationship with Paris and her Paris fans, and so she always does something extra special for her Paris shows. What about her Florida fans? Right, and what about the real Miley fans? Yes. Not that I was going to the show. They weren't watching Miley back in Hannah Montana

days in Paris. They were not raised on Hannah Montana. No, they didn't have Disney Channel in Paris. I don't know this as a fact, but I'm just saying it. What did you watch growing up? I watched, remember Recess? Yeah. I used to run home and watch Recess.

That show was sick. That show was sick. And then also TRL and watching the old music videos. I used to run home, watch Recess, or watch the music videos. We don't have music videos anymore. No, I know. Top 10 countdown of the best music videos, like I used to run home, watch recess, or watch the music videos. We don't have music videos anymore. No, I know. Top 10 countdown of the best music videos, it was awesome. No, and now when people put out music videos,

which they do still, it's like, why are you putting, like why are you doing this? Like for a little bit of marketing, or like clips for social media, like it's not what it used to be. There's nowhere where they live other than like YouTube. Yeah. Yeah, I guess it's also, I don't know,

music videos are just sort of a lost art. It was a beautiful thing. What year were you born in? 93. 93. Okay cool. So like, like similar to me, but younger. No I was born in 92 and I'm not like weird about it. Okay, yeah, well right there. Yeah, no that's what I said, like I was being not facetious when I said similar to me, but younger. Do you know anyone that lies about their age? I feel like I was being not facetious when I said similar to me, but younger. Do you know anyone that lies about their age? I feel like I see people online, not anyone I'm personally close with, but influencers that I follow that I can feel

are lying about their age, because it's very murky and it feels like they've been the same age for the last six years that I follow them. That should be someone's niche, is uncovering real ages to people. Yeah, but I think it's so crazy to lie about your age, especially, you know, at this age that we're at,

like whether you're 30 or 33, it's like, when you get older, it's like, we don't need to count forever. Like if you don't want to, if you want to, like great. I think after 50, you can stop counting. Yeah, if you don't want to count anymore. I'm 50 plus five. Yeah, but I feel like for people who are like,

just trying to stay like, seeming like they're in their 20s, like that's weird to me. Yeah, you only get 10 of those. Yeah, yeah. You can't get more. Are you enjoying your 30s? I think it's gotten better and better every year. Yeah.

It's gotten more like serious and more like less party, but more like building a life now. Yeah. Which, cause I was like, I remember when I turned a 30, I was like, holy shit, I gotta become like an adult now. Which, cause I was like, I remember when I turned 30, I was like, holy shit, I gotta become like an adult now. 20s were just mayhem. 30 hit, I was like, well, if I don't start building

something, I'm gonna look back at like my opportunity on the show and everything that's come from it, like as like just like a waste. So I'm like, all right, now I gotta start building businesses, start doing all these things. So, yeah. That's good though, I feel like some people miss that memo.

Yeah, I know some grown children that are like 40. Yeah. Don't wanna be them. No, I feel like men can get away with it like a little bit longer, but still like your window of opportunity, especially coming from the show, it's, you don't wanna miss it.

Yeah, no, sometimes I like can't believe it's been been seven years. That's amazing. Yeah. Because you're everywhere still. I genuinely forget you're from The Bachelor. You guys are still having me on seven years later. Can you believe it?

No, and you're just doing so much more than like- Three kids since then. I know. I'm trying to think when we podcasted together, it was which studio? Usually I'm good at remembering. I think it was in the apartment. Yeah, yeah, yeah remembering. I think it was like in the apartment. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was only like a two month stay.

Remember the pup? The pup? But like we were only in that apartment for like two months and we had a lot of great guests come through in that time. That was like right before COVID, like January to March. And that's when you came on. That was fun times. Yes, I was.

Yeah, good times. Our next story is not something I've been personally following, but I know a lot of people are. Karen Reed is not guilty. So on Wednesday, I think it was, the verdict came out and she was found not guilty of secondary murder in connection to the 2022 death of her boyfriend, John O'Keefe.

And she has now spoken out to thank those who have supported her through the years. She said, I just want to say two things, she said outside the courthouse. I could not be standing here without these amazing supporters who have supported her through the years. She said, I just want to say two things, she said outside the courthouse. I could not be standing here without these amazing supporters who have supported me and my team. The second thing I want to say is that no one has fought harder for justice of John O'Keefe than I have.

Have you been following this trial? No, I didn't know this existed until yesterday. Yeah, I had heard people, I saw people making videos about it and I was like, okay, it's just like a cultural blind spot for me. I'm fine with that. And then I think Claudia watched the about it and I was like, okay, it's just a cultural blind spot for me. I'm fine with that. And then I think Claudia watched the documentary so she was sharing with me the-

Didn't one guy, like kind of like a blogger or something, like uncover all of this? I think I was like- Oh, really? I think I saw on TikTok, is like a blogger, or he calls himself a journalist. The guy was like, no, you're a blogger. He's like, no, I'm a journalist. And he uncovered a bunch of stuff and made this a bigger thing and guy was like, no, you're a blogger. He's like, no, I'm a journalist. And he like uncovered a bunch of stuff

and like made this a bigger thing. And then- Oh, interesting. Yeah, like that's kind of like how he became a famous journalist too is like through the Karen Reed story. Got it. Yeah, a lot of people have been like fighting for a very invested-

Great green suit on her though. Yeah. We can talk about her fashion. Yeah, she does look really good. I don't know what she looked like before and what she typically looks like, but yeah, she looks good. She's ready to be a star now. She can be really good. Yeah. I don't know what she looked like before and what she typically looks like, but yeah, she, she looks good. She's ready to be a star now. She can be an influencer. Yeah. People are going to really want to be hearing from her and she's not guilty.

So that's good. Yes. Brand safe. Brand safe. So I'm happy for her and for everyone who was really rooting for her. I know this like sort of like had people in a tizzy and I'm sure if I watch the documentary I would feel the same way. So really crazy story. I gotta watch the documentary. I gotta be more relevant.

You think so, but I feel like, well now I've missed it. Cause like when the Murdaugh stuff was happening, like I watched the documentary, like as the trial was happening. Cause I was like, okay, I want to care whatever happens. I want to be invested. Do you ever watch that one? No, but didn't he kill his whole family? Yeah, I think that's what the windup was.

Yeah, yeah, yikes. Crazy. That was really crazy. Not brand friendly. Not brand safe. What kind of stuff do you typically watch? I've been actually watching a lot of junk reality TV. I just watched Temptation Island.

Oh wow, junk. Loved it, yeah watched Temptation Island. Oh wow, Junk. Loved it, yeah, it was good junk. It was good junk. It was good junk. What else? Oh, watching this new show called Walking Dead. Is that like the- The zombie show from like-

Golden Globe. 10 years ago. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've just started watching that. Do you like it? Oh, I'm locked in. Okay. I'm locked in. So yeah, I'm always behind the times.

Like I still use Pandora. Like I don't, like I'm never watching the relevant show. I need to start being more with the times. Got it. Well, I feel like, do you, you know? Well, I think like to know what's going on in this world, you know, like to know what's like on, you know, unless TikTok's gonna be my only source of information.

That's a scary place to be at. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Do you watch Game of Thrones? No. You have to. See, I wasn't into that. Like my girlfriend just started watching the Court of Thorns

or reading the Court of Thorns. Akatar. Akatar, yeah. And like, it's just like about like fairies like banging and stuff. Like, I don't know if like Game of Thrones is like a bunch of fairies banging. There's no fairies, but it is like medieval times. But it's like, you will be obsessed.

It's the greatest show ever made. After Walking Dead, I'll give Game of Thrones a shot. Yeah, it's the greatest show ever made. There's no fairies. And I loved Game of Thrones. I didn't like Akatar. No? Yeah.

You didn't like Akatar? No. Yeah. You didn't like Akatar? No. My girlfriend was missing. When she was reading it. When she was reading it. I couldn't, like she'd wake up in the mornings and read. She'd be walking on the treadmill reading. She would, you know, on the plane read.

I was like, well, I don't, I'm so glad she's done with like the eight books. Yeah. And she went through them in like two months. I'm like, but like, I was like, for two months, we didn't exist. They say that if once you get into the second Akitar book it takes a while to get into it,

but in the second book you really get into it. And I was only halfway through the first book. I'm like, I'm not reading two books to start to, like that's insane. How does a book ever get a sequel if the first one stunk so bad? Yeah, well, that's why I guess I never got a sequel. Oh, just kidding.

Yes, you have a book. Share your book. You deserve better. It's about dating. It's about dating? Yeah, it was a book. Share your book. You deserve better. It's about dating. It's about dating? Yeah, it was a great time. It was like when the show ended, everyone's like, you're this feminist, well, king.

I'm like, no, I'm not. I'm just like a regular dude. If a girl says no, no is no. Yeah, like simple. It's like the bar was so low and I was like, well, maybe we should have a conversation about this. Yeah, well, I feel like the sequel was so low and I was like, well, maybe we should have a conversation about this. And we'll do it. Well, I feel like the sequel to that would be like a relationship book.

Mm-hmm. So maybe if me and Tate can figure all of our do's and don'ts, we can do one. Yeah, yeah. Or what about a memoir? Memoirs of a Tyler. Oh yeah, that would be a fun book to write. I feel like it would be.

Yeah, that would be like when I'm 60 and I don't care anymore. That's true. All of it's like too close. Like you still are like probably friends with the people. I don't know if it'd be brand friendly. You think so? It'd be a little wild.

Really? I had a fun time those last like seven years. So in like the post-bachelor time was like the wild time. As it should be. Yeah, yeah. It was, yeah, I'm slowing down. Okay, good. But like now you have all those memories, you know?

So like no regrets. Cause like otherwise- No regrets. I had the most fun. It was the most like, yeah, exactly. Did it all. As you should, like, and I think that's what people would have hoped

for Tyler C like coming off the Batchelor, as we hope for Jaylen right now, coming off of Love Island. Jaylen, live your life. Live your life. It's gonna be so fun. The best of times. He was on Love Island for two days. He got your life. It's gonna be so fun. I hope you have the best of times. He was on Love Island for two days.

He got a passport. He never left the country before and he came to Fiji for Love Island and these good for nothings. I'll tell you- Loaded him off. My one Love Island, Fiji store. I was in Fiji right before they were filming Love Island.

When? Last year. Okay. And I will say Fiji, beautiful, but the worst place for me to go. Why? Because I was single. It was like two years ago.

I was single. I was just off the show Special Forces. And I had all these riot dates on Australia. I was going to go nuts in Australia. But then the travel person said I couldn't go to Australia. They said I needed a visa. The person in charge of me. So she lied to me. Everyone's like, you can get your nuts in Australia, but then the travel person said I couldn't go to Australia They said I need a travel person like the person in charge of me So she lied to me everyone's like you can get your visa in Australia It's like the easiest place to get into so then I was like, okay

Do I go to Bali or Fiji and Bali was raining the whole time? So I went to Fiji and Fiji I get there for 14 days. It's just Honeymooners and me so I'm like the weird guy by my solo traveler solo traveler by myself Like I'm expecting to party, have fun, do all these things. No, I'm like on like these remote islands. I became like a villager. I was like with these people like spear fishing, like eating at their like little houses and everything.

Like I was smoking weed with them. Like I was doing all the things that like the Fijians did. That's cool. So you you were living the local life. Yeah, but it was. It was not the trip you had planned. Not the trip I had planned, no. You should have wound up on Love Island. Yeah, I should have.

I should have just jumped from Special Forces to Love Island. Did you like Special Forces? Yeah, it was grueling. It was the hardest thing I've ever done, but it was very rewarding and amazing. Of all the reality TV alumni shows, and there are a lot now, which I like,

because I like seeing like our faves, there are faves, like we want more. What would you like to do? Ooh, what would I like to do? Traders. I haven't really watched Traders, so I can't get my opinion on that. But I don't know, I feel like,

I would just love to do something like, kind of like Summer House, where you get like all your friends, you live in a house and you party every weekend and you like hang out and enjoy each other. Well, that's a great segue like into our next story because we have some Summerhouse news and I wanted to talk to you about Summerhouse because as I was reading this news, I was like Tyler C should be on Summerhouse. So Emeril from Summerhouse announces his exit after one season. He said, I know shocking. In a post on his Instagram story,

Emeril announced that he's not coming back. He said he meant to share this last week, but with everything going on, the timing didn't feel right. He said, I've decided not to return for another season of Summer House. I know, shocking. It was an incredible opportunity and I truly had a lot of fun.

He said, I won't drag this out, but I wanna say thank you all for your support and for supporting my foundation as well. You know what, like all of the summer house exits, well, really just Lexi have been so shocking that I actually thought Emeril might stay just because like that would be shocking. So Lexi's out?

Lexi's out, do you know Lexi? Emeril's out and Paige is out? Yeah, and that's all we know so far. There were rumors about Carl, but it seems like he's still, and I think he'll still be on. Jesse and West will probably, yeah, I feel like you're right there with those people. You could be on Summer House, and you are interested.

I mean, something like that would be so much fun. Yeah. Like, they just go hang out every, like, why are they leaving? Yeah. It must be very toxic in there, because all you gotta do is hang out and party all weekend, and they're just hooking up with each other

That's so funny because everyone's like no it's so hard to be in the summer house and like you are filmed You guys know it's hard construction You know what's hard is like actually working and like building a businesses and doing things that are hard You know like sitting there and and and DJing and partying with your friends and like that's not fucking hard Like that's that's what I call a vacation. And I will sign up for that vacation. You and Tate should go on. Yes, we'll go on.

But I just think like, people don't know what hard is. No, I totally agree. But they say it's hard. No, I'll show you hard. Yeah. Come renovate this house with me. You need to do wife swap. Yes.

I need to do, I need to show. With this summer house cast. They all need to go on Special Forces to see what hard is. Yeah. Yeah. What was the hardest thing you did on special forces? The last day I didn't they wouldn't let us sleep like we like we went through Interrogations for 14 hours. We didn't sleep for like like 40 hours and like they stripped me down into like this little suit And it's below 30 degrees. So you're just like, I was shivering. I was like getting a mild hypothermia. I was passing out like.

Were there any moments when you were on it, you're like, why did I sign up for this? Yeah, yeah. And you can think that lady right there in the baby blue shirt right there. It was her idea. I was like, like when I did this show, cause I thought I was gonna be like this show,

like it's Hollywood. It can't be that hard. Yeah, yeah. Or like a big brother sort of situation where you're just like doing these challenges. But then like you guys. It can't be that hard. No, or like a big brother sort of situation where you're just like doing these challenges, but then like you guys. It can't be that hard. No, it was the hardest thing I've ever,

they owned our asses and there was no production. There was no like, you either get hurt or you quit. Who from your season, like did you become closest with? Nick, Viall and Jojo. Jojo. Siwa. Jojo, Siwa, and then she did Big Brother. That's so funny.

You just did Nick's podcast and you guys are friends from Special Forces. How did he fare on Special Forces? He has an amazing story because he was always doing pretty good and then they really got into him one day and they are putting him through this freezing cold dunk tank and making us work out. Imagine being soaking wet and below freezing 30, like below freezing temperatures and like, and like having to keep jumping in this freezing cold, like he, when he did that, he died. Yeah. And like he,

like we were trying to warm them up everything. He just looked like, he was out of it. Like he was done. And uh, he, like, for sure I was like watching him. I was like, he's out of here. And then he kind of, you know, licked his wounds and then the next day like he was still down and out and then we had an event like a race we had to do and Tom Sandoval was his partner and he all of a sudden Nick's became like this monster and just ate it up got through it Was like yelling at Tommy come on get going like it was incredible See him like be at the lows of lows and come back

And fight his way through and then he stuck it out and he went through it and I just like that's a dude That's a fighter like that's I just I felt like I fell in love with Nick. Oh my gosh. That is so crazy How was Tom Sandoval? He was an interesting character. Yeah, I will say Tom Sandoval gives a thousand percent of everything he does Yeah, yeah, I don't think that that was ever in the debate about him. But he's oblivious to a lot of things. He doesn't understand how many times he made us do things more and more and more because he kept fucking up. You know what I mean? Which I think is what we see on TV. Yeah, that's really, really funny. Okay, so you would do summer, like the show that next you wanna do like a relaxing show.

Yeah, I did, right before Special Forces, I did my home rental show. So like, I wanna, you know what's hard guys? Eight months of filming a show where you have to manage clients, you have to renovate houses, you have to manage the production team, you have to manage your whole construction crew

and you gotta renovate nine homes, and stay under budget, and try and make money. Right, and so you're ready for a vacation. That was hard, and so then I went on Special Forces thinking that was a vacation. Really? That was freaking- Because you thought it was gonna be like fake. I thought it was gonna be Hollywood and fake, I was like no way, like this is that hard. Brutal. Brutal. Yeah. Okay, so you could do that, you could really do, like you could do Amazing Race. I feel like you and Tate would be great on Amazing Race. That'd be fun.

She would, that's been one of her dream shows. Oh really? And what about Dancing with the Stars? I love the dance, so count me in. And Tate's a dancer too, so she'd be pissed if I got that before her. Yeah, people like love Dancing with the Stars, like wanna be on, I feel that way about it too,

where it's like, that seems like a dream. I was like two classes away from getting my dance minor in college. So I really enjoy, I mean, I almost failed out of college my first year. And so my coach was like, well, you're gonna take all these dance classes, get your GPA up.

And my first class was like ballet, and it's me and 30 girls was like, well, I love this. I love ballet. I am the bachelor right now. Did your dancing help with your football? I feel like what movie is that from where they like do dance classes to fix their football? Game plan. With the Rock. Oh really? I have to watch that. Did it help with your footwork? Yeah, I mean, it makes you so much more limber and helps you with like with injuries and all that stuff. Mm-hmm. That is really funny. Have you been invited on any of these alumni shows and turned it down?

Um yeah. There was like one that she I was like this sounds awesome. Like it was like a crazy like you're in space kind of show and I was like I love space now like I'll go. Yeah. You know and then she was like you're not doing this. This is stupid. What was it? Did it ever come out? Yeah, it went out. And then, and then I got to do another show. I got to do Special Forces instead.

Yeah. And so we were grateful. Okay. Yeah, that's, that sounds better. If Jeff Bezos like gave you a spot on Blue Origin, would you want to go? No, no. So there was a time when there was like, like that company, whoever did that was like reaching out to influencers.

Right. And they were trying to get influencers to go up there and make it this thing. And I was like, you gotta pay me like $5 million. All right. You know what I mean? That's a lot, but I'm feeling maybe they were- I feel like I'm gonna die up there.

Right. You know what I mean? I remember like pilot Pete said yes to it and he made this whole post about him going to do it. And then it never happened. And then we see Katy Perry and all these people. But I was like, oh, it finally came to fruition. Like it can actually happen years and years later.

But I remember pilot Pete, like I'm going to space, doing all this stuff. And then it never happened. And I was like, and I remember them in my DMs about it. I was like, this sounds awful. Yeah, so you're not interested. No. If anybody's like doing a reality show in space.

Unless the walking dead starts to happen, then I'll go to space. Oh, okay, okay, good to know. No, I feel the same way. I'm not like super interested in going at the moment. No. Plans could change. What do you do there?

Well, they really just go up and come down. It's like not even, it's not like they're going on living in space. space. It's not what you think. They're not really being astronauts. And you know, what's everyone in the way for me to say something like Katy Perry? Yeah, you have to have a quote when you come down. It's just a lot of pressure. And everybody apparently hates you when you go to space. Exactly.

So stay home. Yeah, stay home. I'm going to stay in Jupiter. Well instead of go to Jupiter, stay home. I'm gonna stay in Jupiter. Well, instead of go to Jupiter, the planet. Yes, that was good. That was good, Jackie. Thank you so much, thank you. It needed to be explained so it couldn't have been that good, but thank you.

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that I feel like isn't getting its shine, but 16 billion Apple, Facebook, Google, and other passwords have been leaked. 16 billion. Oh, shit, I better not be one of them. Well, I feel like, how can you not be? This is like the biggest password hack of all time, but I like barely saw this in the news.

And it's really making the case for that strong password option. Sometimes I do it, but sometimes I don't. Sometimes I do it, but then I made the dumbest mistake of not buying a Macbook. I bought a regular computer one time because I freaked out one day. I couldn't figure out how to get to a file. I was like, I need to go back to the Windows. That's easy. Back to the basics.

Yeah, but now I still can't find a file there. So if I have a strong password though, it saves to the computer, saves to your phone. I don't have that connectivity anymore It's stupid. I messed up. Oh, you're in a pickle. Mm-hmm. I didn't even yeah I didn't even think about how a strong password is like an Apple privilege I guess like you could invent a strong password and like I don't know keep a ledger of them Yeah, but then you get no, but that's I do think my password is pretty strong though

Yeah, but but it's I have confidence in my past is hacked not not you can't hack my password is pretty strong though. Yeah, but it's- I have confidence in my password. Hacked is hacked. You can't hack my password. But they're not hacking it because they're guessing it, they're hacking it because they're getting into the mainframe, right? I don't even know what you're saying anymore. But you know, like it's like, but then it's like if you have a different password,

like so some people use the same password for everything. So if it gets hacked from one time, then like all, then people- I have like seven I try. If I can't figure it out out I try like seven different ones. Yeah, I feel like. And then I freak out then I call Tate and she goes, you know you have a whole account

or a whole spreadsheet of all your passwords. I go, I don't know how to get to it. That's even harder. You need a password to get there. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's not a perfect system. I do feel like with Face ID and stuff, it's like helping and like biometric,

like fingerprints and whatever, like that is a little bit more secure. I hit a button the other day where now if I try to log into something for my Google, my Gmail or whatever, on my phone, I have to have Tate take her phone to scan my phone to let me in. And I'm like, I don't know what button I hit,

but this makes everything way harder. Wait, that's insane. And also not that I think that this applies to you, because I don't think you guys are gonna break up. But like what if- But maybe Tate is doing this to have control of my life. Well, that, but also it's insane, and also not that I think that this applies to you, because I don't think you guys are gonna break up. But like what if- But maybe K is doing this to have control of my life. Well, that, but also it's like what if you broke up and you didn't realize and then you have to call your ex

and be like, and not you, just I'm saying the royal you. And then you have to call your ex and be like, can you come log me into my Gmail? Can you log me into my Netflix? Oh yeah, well that's something else. Could you imagine calling her and be like, hey, I have this girl over, can you call me into my- What's your Netflix password, like we were sharing? It's really, it that's something else. Could you imagine calling her and be like, hey, I have this girl over, can you call me? What's your Netflix password?

We were sharing. It's getting really messy, all the passwords. I do feel like it needs to be streamlined. And there are so many different services, even for when you think about your Apple TV and all the apps. Every single app, you have a different login and password. That's just not working. I tried to watch TV on a different TV yesterday

in my house and like nothing was logged in. And it was during nap time, like my son was sleeping in my room, so I was like, okay, I'll go in another room. I spent the entire nap time trying to log into these things and I didn't get to watch one thing. Yep, yep, it's troubling, it's troubling. Isn't it crazy too how like we had cable and now we just have 20,000 streaming services.

So we basically have to pay for every one of them again. Like we have cable and now we just have 20,000 streaming services. So we basically have to pay for every one of them again. Like we have cable again now. Yeah. No. And then what's going to happen is they're all going to merge into one big streamer that's cable where you can watch everything together. Like we go backwards just to go forward. Exactly. And now Uber, apparently is going to have an Uber Transit where it's like a bus. No, that's really funny. I bet you one day we're gonna be like,

I need a cord on my phone to the wall. Well now I do use wired headphones now. Do you? Because I'm sure you've seen, like people say like the Bluetooth's are like radiating through your brain. Oh really? Which I saw that and it's like, okay, I don't want that,

whether or not that's really what's happening, it don't want that, whether or not like that's really what's happening. It doesn't sound like what I want for my brain. But also like just the court is like a little more dependable. Like my AirPods are never charged. They're always chiming. They're always, every time I leave my house, I get a notification that my AirPods is in my house.

I'm like, I don't care. I didn't even know they were charged. Well, I panicked because I just, I had my AirPods with me last week and I thought I lost and I was like, this is the eighth pair. Yeah oh at what point do you say like I'm not someone who's cut out for AirPod life? Yeah I should I should have done that already. They're so tiny though and they're so like they're so slippery. But what's good now is they're louder so if I lose them I can like chime them. Right you can chime them. But they have to be charged. But they have to be charged.

But what about like a big headphone? I've done those. Like a Max. They hurt my ears. Oh, your senses. My sense, I have sensitive ears. That is really funny. No, all this technology, like really, it's like bringing us forward to bring us back.

And what's old is new again. I felt that way about, about, oh, also how like they used to put out a TV show and they put out like the whole season and we would all binge it and we got accustomed to binging. And now it's episodic. Yeah. But you just made us into addicted binge-aholics.

I know, it's crazy. What can we do? And now we're all wearing like retro clothes and like it's cool to thrift and now my whole house is designed. Like it's like an old French cottage, you know? Right. I love the design of your house.

Thank you. And that is like, I feel like that is coming back. Like having things in your house, not just like minimalist. Having character. Yeah, character. Bring back character. I think in your twenties, you think like minimalistic is cool.

Yeah, but I think it's also the way that I experienced it. It's like, I don't know what I like yet. So I'm just gonna go with like nothing. Also in your 20s, we don't have money. So like having nothing is cool. Right, right, right. I can't just like buy all these chachis. I remember like, ah, tapestry on a,

like on a belt, like that's cool. It's like a little bit of design, you know? But like, it was like five bucks, you know? Yeah. Or like you, in college we'd hang like posters, you know? No, it's, oh my gosh. Like the beer we liked. Oh yeah, for sure.

In my college dorm I really decorated, but then once I moved to an apartment, I didn't know how to design, and then also once I moved in with Zach, we had to figure out our style was together, because if it was up to me, everything would have been pink, and it was up to him,

it would have been black, like a bachelor pad. So we were just like, okay, white and marble and mirror, it's like neutral. And then we built up from there, and now I've got some pink in the house, but not in every room.

Compromise. You'll get more, you'll get more. Yeah, yeah, no, he's kind of given up. He's like, I know it makes you so happy, and it looks nice. I learned right away, you just kind of got a roll with what she likes. Yeah. So a lot of this design and state like 90% of it.

I have my, I wanted to keep some of like the, like the more masculine touches in here and like some places. In certain areas that like you use the most. Yeah, like my gym is all black. Right. And it's more modern and it's cool and it's like my space. Yeah. You know, my, my, my office, they did a little bit more like modern-ish, you know what I mean?

But it still carries like the picture frame molding and the sconce, like the Wayne's Coding from all the like downstairs up there, so. Wayne's Coding. Yeah. Tell me about Wayne's Coding. How do you get Wayne's Coding? It's like, it's just like, it's like, like wall, like.

No, I know what it is, but like, I just feel like it's something that it's like, your house doesn't have it. Like, how do you add it? How do you add it? You go get some wood. Okay. You call me.

Okay. Actually, you call T Okay. You call me. Okay. Actually you call Tate. Call Tate. Tate's over here, she can cut all this stuff, put it all on the walls, paint it, she makes it look great. So you guys didn't use a decorator at all? No, for downstairs, we used Gailey Alex to do my office

and basically my office rooms upstairs. But everything else was all Tate, except for the garage, that was me. You guys have to look at the pictures because it's fully designed, like moldings painted a different color than the wall, than the floors, and it looks completely done. She did an amazing, and this was her first crack at it.

So what's next for her in this space? And are you guys gonna have, you guys should be the next Chip and Jo. We're working on it. Okay, good. That just seems like a no-brainer. We're doing another house together here soon. I bought this cute little brick cottage

and we just kind of like, I kind of overpaid on it because we fell in love with this house and we wanted it to be like a rental. And- Oh, that's good. Yeah, and I thought it would be like a fun Airbnb for everyone to come to. Yeah. Or booking.com, you know?

And we, so, but we just didn't really do much to it. We thrifted the whole thing. And it kind of went a little grandma chic. OK. That's cool, though. It's cool. Coastal grandmother, cottage core. Cottage core.

But people coming down from Ohio, New York, wherever, they want to be in something coastal. So we're going to kind of go like Palm Beach coastal inside. And it's going to be really cool. So I'm excited for her to do something different than what she did at our house. Yeah, that's very exciting. I'm so happy for the both of you.

It seems like you're doing great. Where can everyone follow all of your projects? You can follow on my Instagram, Tyler J. Cameron. You can follow on Tate's Instagram. Ta-da, it's Tate. Oh my god, I thought it was Tata. Tata. Yeah, like when I think of it,

I've never set her hand a lot live, but I'm like, it's Tata Tate. Yeah, it's Tata. That's really funny. That's great, yes. Okay, well thank you so much for joining us. We absolutely love having you and the Toasters love you and we really appreciate your time.

Have a great weekend. Tyler's off to catch a flight and he's gonna have a and we really appreciate your time. Have a great weekend Tyler's off to catch a flight and he's gonna have a great weekend. Yes. Hope you have a great weekend as well Thank you guys so much. We will see you back on Monday Have another fun episode in store and I hope all of you out there have a great weekend as well. We love ya. Bye