The Toast - Messy Wessy: Monday, May 11th, 2026

Episode Date: May 11, 2026

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Jackson, Claude, favorite show the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off, swirly. It's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy Monday. Happy Mom Day. Happy Monday after Mother's Day. Mother's Day this year felt like my birthday.

I got so many texts. Are we texting other moms? Yeah, you know what? And I woke up really early and I had received like a couple of texts already. like what if I'm just the person that initiates? What if I'm the person who, like, writes in the group chat first, not the one who's last, like the slob. Yeah, you two, happy mother's day.

I know. I sent so many you twos. I felt bad. I know. What if I put other bitches on blast? What if I did it? First of all, I love that. Like kind of our sister put you on blast because she sent me flowers.

Yeah, she's like, happy first mother's day. She put you on blast because she got me a gift and a card. And she put me on blast. A gift? Yeah, she got me actually a really cute gift. That's like, you wouldn't think it's like the craziest gift, but it's like my favorite. gift I've gotten a long time. It's like, it was just like a set of little pastel bowls that, like ceramic bowls that

are pleamy. Maybe she's maybe to give it to me a person. Yeah. No, she said she was like at the mall and she just saw them and thought of me and she just wanted to get me a little something because I've just been like really amazing. Oh my God. And no, because I made like the dinner. I guess I've been like cooking a lot and we had taco night Friday night and like I needed

little bowls and I guess she saw like my lack of little bowls. and she saw a bowl so she's scentable and I got these cute little balls. She saw your lack of little bowls. She saw me really is what she saw. Yeah. And they were like, I actually took a video of them today. I like love them so much.

I'll post them. They're stob too, like that brand staw. What is it? St. A-U-B. It's like, it's similar to like Crusay.

It's ceramic quality things. I'd never heard of it. Although if I did see the brand STA-U-B, like personally I would say stowb. I don't know. You might be right. I don't know. No, I don't know either.

So, yeah, and then I didn't get her a card or a gift. So, like, I looked like a hoarse. I didn't get, I didn't get anyone. That's terrible. Yeah, it's not just like, I don't feel put on blast that she got you flowers. Like, then you feel on blast because you didn't get her flowers. Yeah, of course. Like, I didn't realize, like, that I was also supposed to be showering other mothers.

Do you know what I mean with loving gifts and affection? It was your first time, you know? Yeah. So it did. I don't know if I'm going to get like this many texts always, but maybe because it was my first, like people went out of their way to text me. And by the time, like, I thought, I'm like, oh, maybe I should text someone.

I had pretty much already spoken to everyone except like Lauren Elena. So I sent her a text. She's like my mom buddy because like we literally gave birth like the same week. So I was like happy Mother's Day. But like besides that, I had already communicated with everyone. That's so funny. Oh, and also say, yes, I did think about like being the one to send the text first and like put everyone on blast.

And I didn't do that. But I thought about it. Maybe next year. The thought is not the thing that counts. No, but like maybe next year. I think I'm going to do it next year. I couldn't do it. Like the minute I thought about it.

Early alarm for next year. Like the minute I thought about it, then like all of a sudden, eight hours passed, you know? Right. Of course, of course. Things like that. It always happened.

Classic. But next year, I got you guys. So we went away for the weekend. I have so much to tell you that I didn't tell you like offline because I wanted to share it on the podcast. Okay. How was your weekend? Kind of something insane happened.

Like the craziest thing ever has happened. Actually, I'm not sure if I'm overreacting or underreacting. or underreacting, you know? Tell me. But let me just say we went, and I'm not going to say the place because, you know, I don't like to disparate.

Did you like the place? No, okay. I don't know. I know, I did. But like, I don't know how to like it. Contextualize what you know now. So let me just say, it was like a bed and breakfast type of retreat in the woods.

It was very woods. We went on lots of like nature walks. It was so nice. It was a spa. Was it a big brand name? I think so, yeah. Okay. Do you want to hear something crazy?

I want to hear what. I want to hear what. Let me just. I don't. I can stay on track. What happened? So I did like become a Karen. But I don't know if I was being like a Karen or I wasn't Karen enough.

And we can tell you. So we got there and I called for a crib. And we did our first nap in the crib and like the crib. And like the crib was like a little small. It was almost like a bassinet. I'm like what the hell is this? So I call, I'm like, you guys have this bigger crib. They're like we have a pack and play.

I was like, oh, perfect. We love a pack and play. Pack and Play comes. He sleeps in it that night. The next day we do our naps in it. And then like on the second day, Ben, I don't know what he was doing in the bathroom, like rearranging shit.

And he comes out and he was like, are you vaping again? And I said, excuse me? Why the fuck would you ask me that? On Mother's Day. Chiques. On Mother's Day. And he goes like this and he holds up a jewel.

He was like, this was underneath the pack and play mattress. Like between the little mattress pad and the bed. And I was like, what? I'm like, that's not mine. He was like, it literally. was under there, Ruby slept on top of it. I was so upset. I was freaking out.

I, of course, called downstairs. And I had to do it over the phone because if I did it in person, I would have been like, oh, no, it's fine. But it's not fucking fine, right? I don't know. Is it? So here's what I'll tell you. Ruby is fine.

Yeah. Ruby is fine. So unacceptable from the hotel. Like, like, rip them a new one. But Ruby is fine. You don't have to worry. I mean, it could have been. But he's fine.

He was under the thing. He's fine. Like, someone else's germs, nicotine and tobacco. Like, I'm sick. The germs are, like, the least part of it. So I called downstairs. Wait, do you think it was Ruby's Mother's Day present to you? Yeah.

He picked one up at 7-Eleven. And he hit it, like, the tooth fairy. So I called downstairs, and I was like, I'd like to speak with the manager. I literally felt like such a Karen. And they were like, okay, he'll call you back. He called me back. And I was like, I just want to let you know this happened.

And he was like, he had an appropriate response, which was like, oh my fucking God. Like that's insanely inappropriate. That's unacceptable. You know, beneath our, and he was like, what can I do? What can I do? What can I do? A million dollars should cover it. Of course.

And I didn't want to say that because then they make you think that like you're only calling like to get the discount. And he was like, we could send champagne. I was like, I don't need champagne. I'm not truly anymore. So I said things. Sir, I trust that you'll make this right. He said absolutely. So what do you think is an appropriate accommodation to be made?

If I'm being measured and I'm speaking for both parties, one night free. Oh, okay. I got a $250 credit. How much was a night there? Not that. And that means you have to spend more money there? Well, no, we already had to run up a tab of room service and things. So it just made a very small dent.

But I'm like, $250. That doesn't feel appropriate. It doesn't. That feels low. Yeah. And so like I kind of like liked the place and would return, but I don't know how to hold space for the jewel. Oh, you can just like,

you just, I guess, have to check every crevice of the pack and play. And I guess maybe I should have. Well. Well. The thing is I know whose fault it was. Finn. No. Oh.

It came set up. Like the guy brought it in. And it was like a young teenager. Like it was obviously. him. Oh, so heads me to roll. I didn't know that. I just thought it was like wedged in there from like the last stay, maybe some parent. No, but if you can know who it probably is. Yeah. The, the person brought it up, fully assembled already and just wheeled it in. And it was like a young kid. It was a kid. And on the phone, I got the sense that like the manager knew exactly who it was. Like there's like a teenager who's always,

he's always having to like tell him to stop vaping, you know? One thousand percent. Yeah. No, he was definitely host hell staff. He should be fired. Absolutely. You agree, right? If you can't keep your jewel out of the cribs, you shouldn't work there. Yeah. I agree. I agree. I was so upset. Like, I could not believe. Yeah, that's really disturbing and not cool. But Ruby's not cool. It's okay. Yeah. So there were a lot of other great things about the weekend, but like that's sort of the headline. No, it was, I hate to like make my whole trip about that because it was really great. Like, first of all, I went to the spa, and they had something I had never seen before.

So I go and I sit. Crack. She's like, like, literally it's crazier than crack. She sits me down. What scent would you like? You know, they all smell terrible. And I was like, unscented, please. And she was like, okay, would you like me to lower the breastplate?

I said, what? She's like, we have a breastplate. I'm like, what's that? There's literally in the table where you're, you can, lower it like sinks in so your breasts can sort of like dangle and like create space for your breasts hold space i was like girl lower that to the floor like it was probably the most comfortable i've ever been during massage all places need that that's a type of when i say inclusivity that's what i'm talking about yeah was it like a spa first hotel you know with like yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah we're gonna

find out what hotel it was guys all right fine it was the pendrina teary i don't give a fuck like what the pen i know weird name Pendry, Natiri. Yeah, it's part of the montage collection. So, like, they have budget. They have budget to credit me, okay? Pendry Natiri of the montage collection. I've never heard of it.

It's like this really huge estate. It was like a former home of the king of Morocco that they turned, of course, into a Beddenberg. So of course you had to go. I know. When they said that, I was like, you're kidding. My history is on my property.

That's my king right there. And they have like a spa, a farm, bunch of restaurants. Like, it's really, and it's on like this huge park. It's a public park, but it's like up the mountain. on the park. And so you can go down the park as like this insane walking path with rivers and creeks. Like it was very natural, very nature weekend. So yeah, it was crazy except for that.

That is crazy. So all in all, how was your little family stay cache? It was amazing. Like, I really felt like I was on drugs the whole time. Like, I was so happy. We like did spa, bed and I, like, you know, took turns going to the spa. We went for walks. We had beautiful dinners. I had a cocktail. Yeah, that's right. There was live. And I'm doing it to you. Turn up. Turn up at the Natery love. Oh, there was a wedding on Saturday night there. Of course the bride was a toaster.

Like, it was amazing. She came up to me and she was like, I could tell she was trying not to get emotional. She was like, I can't believe you're here. Like, you don't understand. My grandfather's name was Ruby. And it just feels so special that you guys are here. And I was like, I never meet someone

whose grandfather was named was Rubin. I'm not okay. That goes by Ruby. She was like, yeah, no, that's my grandfather. And I guess she felt the presence of her grandfather through osmosis. Through Rubin's softer. So I was like honored to be there for her. And Ruby was the guest of honor.

Yeah, yeah. I'm not okay. It was really beautiful. That's so beautiful. And then you went to the Knicks game. Oh, right. And then Sunday, you know, right after we checked out, we drove, because we were like only an hour and a half away from Philly, we were equidistant between Philly and New York.

So Ben was like, what if we went? Oh, I didn't tell you this part of the story either. This is so funny. Ready? So I was like, I will go to the Knicks game with you. But you always want to go with me and the baby. And it's like, we can't sit in the stands. Like, he's a baby.

I'm like, buy me a suite. Like, seriously, you want me to go buy me a suite? But I was like, you can't just buy. Bet it was like, you can't just buy a sweet. I'm like, well, if anyone can figure it out, it's you. So figure it out. Lo and behold, like two rogue tickets on Ticketmaster, like in a suite. Like, you could just buy seats in a suite.

Like, sea level. Yes, I guess. I guess people. I guess people, no, but it's also like whoever owns a suite. Like they can like sell ticks. Sell ticks if they only need whatever. I was like, oh, Parjie. It was an amazing suite.

We went like, and we got there and it was empty. I was like, well, obviously people are going to come. halfway through the first quarter, no one's there. And I'm like, oh my God. Like, did we literally get our own suite? Five minutes later, I'm like, I'm wearing Ruby and the Bouncers home. Not the bouncer, the carrier. So I'm like bouncing him around.

The door opened. And like literally a school bus had just dropped off a group of religious young Jewish kids. Like they all came running in with their yarmicas. And I was like, no fucking way. And like four or five parents like chaperones. We were literally in. And of course we got to chatting. It was their suite.

And they were like selling some tickets. And they were like, we actually had brought in kosher food, but they took it at security, even though we had prior authorization. I'm like, are you telling me that we would have showed up to this suite and it would have been fully catered kosher? And he was like, yeah, but we had like logistical issues with the security downstairs.

It was so like kismet and freaky. Like it was amazing. Of course, lovely people. You know, we all got along swimmingly. They were rooting for the Knicks, thank God. Oh, I was going to say, are you feeling like moving to Philly? Oh, no. You know, attached in a kinship.

No, not at all. But, you know, Philly people have a certain reputation of being just awful. And I have to say some of the nicest people, I guess when you just are with a baby, like people are nice to you, but every single person, Ruby's new thing is he goes like this. Like he wants to touch everyone's hand. So we put his hand out and everybody was like giving him high fives and stuff. And, you know, he was wearing a big Knicks hat, Nick's jersey. And they all were so nice to him. Even though I kind of felt bad like the empath in me, it was like technically a home game for Philly.

And there was like three Philly fans there. Like it was when they were turning the lights off and like announcing the players, people were booing the Philadelphia players in their own stadium. Who won? Was that the fourth and final? Oh, fourth and final, sweet.

It was a great game to be at. We went to the next round. Oh, exciting. Who do they play next? It's still playing. They are figuring it out. But Ben says it's going to be either the Cleveland Cavaliers or the Detroit Pistons.

I'm rooting for the King Charles Cavaliers. I know you are. And that's exciting for Kylie and Timothy. It means more spottings. And I almost, almost didn't get like the headphones that you're supposed to put on kids. Like I just figured like he's one. Like whatever. Oh my God.

It was so loud. And I was paranoid. I was texting chat. I was like, I have these headphones. Like I'm paranoid. They're like, yeah, you should be. You got like the shittiest pair. And they're not.

So there I am like bouncing him in the hallway. Like, no, by the way, I wasn't even being cardboard. I thought of it last minute. I got an Instacart from Walmart. I was like grateful to have gotten them. Yeah. And chat was like, yeah, you're a bad mom. and this is a piece of shit

and like you should leave. And I was like, wait, really? No, they were like, it's fine, but like, take quiet breaks. So I was, like, going out into the hallway. Like, I was really paranoid. I'm sure it was fine. I'm sure it was fine.

But it is nerve-wracking. I felt that way at Disney on Ice, but, like, I'm sure. Yeah. No, Disney on Ice was quiet compared to this. Like, it was so... But we were in the front row. We were right in the action.

I feel like it's actually quieter in the front row than, like, the big speakers up top. Hmm. So it was a roller coaster of emotions of a weekend. High, lows, but all in all... Oh. and Ben very much understood the assignment when it comes to your gift yes and you know what when you when you shared the gift that he got you I remembered that he did tell me and it passed muster so I didn't

harp on it I was obviously expecting like a burkin and the back was small so the box was small I was like I wonder what it is here yeah right maybe they have a new mini burkin and I was like oh okay so it's not a burkin and I didn't recognize like the wrapping or anything sometimes cardia you know they do like the white paper I was like what is this armees too yeah right so I'm like what is there so I'm like what is and it was actually even better. Like I'm such a brat, me like wanting a bergen. This was so much better.

He had me a bracelet made with diamonds and rubies. I don't know how I didn't even think of that. Like, duh. It was so obvious. Now, I am having some changes made to the bracelet, but all in all, it was a perfect gift. Yeah, the thought counted.

And it was a beautiful thought. What did you get? I didn't even talk to you all weekend. Oh, I got a really cute pair of Prada flats and made even more special because like Zach went to them all with Harry and he knows that my favorite colors pink. So they're like pink flats. You just,

they're the sort of pink that like a child would be like pink. Oh, are they fogglay? No, no, no, they're not. I, um, I do, I never saw these flats before. So now I want to see what other colors they come in before I like commit to this pair. But like they're the sort of like, once I find my pair and make sure that they're the right size,

like I'm going to wear them every day. So they really slayed, but I might just want to tinker with it. What is the like rule on returning a gift that like your baby picked out for you. I think he just would want me to be like happy and wear them. Of course, of course. So I'm fine with it.

I'm just wondering, is that like... What if I take him to the return and like make and be like... A whole experience. By him a pair. Oh, matching. Yeah, but no, it was like, I know, I knew that that got that color because like Harts was like mom's favorite color is pink. It has to be...

That's really cute. So cute. And they're really cute shoes too. And I haven't seen them yet. They're new this season. Prater. Okay. Style icon Hertz.

Hearts. But no, it's a great, great weekend. Mother's Day, isn't it a fun one? Oh, my God, it's so special. It's so special. Everything is just, like, special. I woke up and I'm like, it's Mother's Day. Like, everything.

It's special. Yeah, like, everyone come, give Mommy your kisses. And they're just, like, special Mother's Day kisses. And I guess because it's, like, such a corporate holiday that, like, you know, everyone in the streets is saying happy month. If they see you with a stroller or whatever, they're like, Happy Mother's Day. So it's like on your birthday, people on the street don't know that it's your birthday.

It's true. You get even more. like we went on this nature hike and like every person we passed and we're like happy Mother's Day. Like I felt so loved honestly. Yeah, that's really like a lot. I mean, I saw a lot of people. I feel like you maybe didn't interface with as many people as I did. No, no, no, that's strangers walking on a hike wish you happy Mother's Day.

That's like very kind. That's a lot of kindness. I mean, think about it. I have a stroller. Yeah. It's a Sunday morning of Mother's Day. And like, you know, when you pass someone like who goes the opposite direction of you, you give like a nod or, you know, good Chavez.

I guess you, yeah, you say good at Happy Mother's Day. Yeah, I guess so. That's very kind. It was really a banner. I had to wait a long time for my first Mother's Day. Yeah. Because Ruby was born like three days after last year's.

So I waited a whole, he's literally turning one the same week of Mother's Day, which is like literally so crazy. So it felt like I kind of got two mothers days in one, honestly. It was a big first one. Absolutely. I may they all be that big, honestly. No, honestly, they keep getting better.

Like it's, it never stops being cool, like, and fun and sweet. Oh, good, good, good, good, good, good. And, like, the kids get so into it. And then they're writing cards and it was just really cute. Everyone was just all hopped up. Oh, good. I didn't know if it was, like, only special because it was my first. No, I think it gets more and more special as your kids get bigger and they can really do for you, you know?

Right. And they have more of an understanding of, like, why we're respecting and appreciating mama today especially. Yeah, yeah. That's good. That's good. What else did you this weekend? Oh, I had such a cozy. weekend, like mostly at home with Maxi.

Maxi, we needed to rub faces. You know, that's what I like to do. That's what I like to do on the weekends is rub. Skin to skin. Rub makeup free faces with Maxi because during the week. Medical term. Medical term for skin to skin. No, but we could do skin to skin during the week, but not face to face when I'm

wearing makeup. No, I get it. I get it. Because the second you put your makeup on, it's like you can't be an involved mother. I can't rub faces. Yeah, I know. Or I have to wait to like after I take my makeup up. So the afternoon, but I want to rub face.

in the morning. I find it shocking that you are like comfortable with rubbing faces, even with your kids. Like you're so like, don't touch my face. Oh. Like, maybe you just reserve that sort of hostile energy for me. For the rest of the world. But for my children, no, it's open. It's, like, there's, like, could I feel like one of your surrogate children, though.

Like, let's rub faces when I see you. No, but even like just other individuals, I don't want to like, yeah, don't touch my face. My children. I agree. strangers. My children. Even me, I don't touch like my own face. Jax, we're seeing each other this weekend.

I know. Dear Media by night. Dear Media, IRL. By night. We're having a, we have to like sort of. IRL by night. We haven't really. Are you staying with me?

Yeah. You asked me yesterday. I got to prep the guest room. We have to sort of prep. Like we're putting on a show. Yeah, we have prepped. And we're also improv. So there's only so much we could do.

It's an improv show. Yeah. It's an improv show at Webster Hall. So yeah, I am coming in the big city. Are you nervous? Bright Lights Big City. Yeah, I'm really nervous. From the big city.

I know. Small town girl. My mom's home from the big city. Small town girl in the big city. Three bucks, two bags, one me. One jacks. Yeah. Three bucks.

We'll make that TikTok when you get here. Okay. Sounds good. Two bags. One me. What else? I guess we've like dilly dally. There's a lot of news Jen Fessler taking over the weekend.

I actually I actually a lot. There's a lot of news. I think like some of the stories that you would think would be in the fast five will probably get pushed to tomorrow because there's a lot weirdly. That's good.

Yeah, it is good. So I guess we could get into everything if that's all on the weekend. I guess, yeah. I'm okay with that. So without further a doda doda do it is time for the fast five stories that you do need to know.

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Real Housewives of New Jersey alum Jen Fessler. So this sort of took over the internet this weekend. Did you watch Tea By the Sea? No, I didn't watch Tea By the Sea. What does he have to do with it? Jen Fisler. Like he just gave his take. It was honestly one of his best episodes of Tea by the C.

I was cracking. Wait, but he doesn't have any particular vested interest in the matter. No, he likes to update his followers who like don't know. what the saga is. I guess Vanita made like a statement because she's like always inserting herself. And he was like, and then this Vanita, like the way he told the story was hysterical. Okay. So first it started on, I guess like Friday night when someone posted on Threads, a statement

that Jen Fessler had made. Oh, just can we pause and talk quickly about how like threads has weirdly been like an active KJ from Summerhouse just like went viral on threads for talking about? And it's like, why are people? people on threads. I didn't realize that things were, I thought it was shut down, like, for real. Yeah, I don't know why people are on threads. And I guess, like, when I see the screenshots of threads, I, and it doesn't look like a tweet. It kind of looks like a tumbler. I don't, I don't what the fuck it looks like. I don't really, I don't really process, like, where this is coming

from them. I'm just like, oh, I guess someone's phone is formatted different from mine. Yeah, but, like, a lot of Summer House cast members are, like, on threads. I wonder if they're like a partnership with Instagram. Like, it's so random. No one's using threads, are they? Is there stuff that I don't know about? I don't know. Sometimes I get, like, serve stuff where it's, like, read the rest of this thread on threads and it's like oh i'd like to read the rest of that but i'm not downloading threads but i'm not downloading threads right um so here's what happened someone posted on fred's former real house of new jersey friend of jen fessler was asked by page six about the summer house scandal tonight and said this about west west is the cutest sweetest golden

uh golden retriever puppy dog he does not mean any harm he didn't mean it he's just trying to have a good time he doesn't want to hurt anyone give him a break then sierra replied saying l-o-l because they slept together too okay let me I tell you that the universe nuts. I mean, it's shocking, especially because Sierra like really hasn't been slinging mud like everybody else. Like she's sort of remained above. She, like, she's just taking every opportunity and becoming a socialite and like she's

going to, you know, star out of this show. She hasn't been like in the weeds, like getting above. So I feel like if she's going to say something, like she's not saying something that's not true. Like she's not lowering herself to like start like. lying. So here's what happens in. So then someone wrote back like, ma'am, I beg your pardon, ain't that old lady married. Oh, he got a type. And then Sierra replied, that's what I thought alongside a cartwheel emoji. Then this sort of took off like wildfire and Jen Fessler put out a statement.

But wait, before Jen Fessler put out a statement, a video of West and Jen Fessler. Yes. Resurfaced. I guess at the time, nobody thought it was weird, but they were just like Bravo Lebrides like going out and being drunk together. And they were just like. And here's what the message is. We need to normalize things being weird at the time. You know what I mean? Agreed. We need to normalize calling people out for being weird. At the time. Like, what were Jen Fessler and West Wilson doing, like, drunk getting pizza? They were probably at like a Bravo event and then went out after it. And I'm sure the audience was like living for it thinking it's like Avengers, like a collaboration of the cinematic universe.

And it's like, no, that's weird. And then this morning I'd seen that there was also a podcast clip from like a very random podcast. And I don't know who these people are at all, but like it was from like months ago, talking about how, like, this, one of the hosts knows for sure that West had slept with the housewife and he won't say who it was, but it was definitely East Coast. And then the other co-host goes, well, it's definitely Jersey because, like, your friend was with all the Jersey girls.

So there is, like, circumstantial evidence that this is true. DeMois posted, like, something about someone overhearing in a bar in Bozeman. Oh, wait, I'm sorry. I don't know this. Bozeman, Montana? Yeah, that West was in Monta. Like this is old tea that now makes more sense, I guess. Let me find it exactly.

One thing about DeMois is like she's going to go into the archive and find the hint that made no sense. It says, but last summer I was in a bar in Bozeman, Montana and literally overheard him talking to two other guys and a girl about hooking up with an old chick named Jenny who gave him the most unreal. And I think it's blurred out. Yeah. It's a BJ. Oh my. But was super fucked up when it happened. Then Dumas also posted a clip of Jesse and West on Watch What Happens Live.

But wait, I haven't seen this clip. I saw a different clip of Jen Fessler and Jackie Goldschneider on Watch What Happens Live when they were asked like, who's your Bravo Hall Pass? And Jen like jokingly responds. And as Jen is saying, Evan Goldschneider, because Jackie's right there. So it's funny. Oh, that's funny. Jackie Goldschneider says, West.

For Jen Fessler. Oh, and then like one of her old Instagram captions resurfaced with like her and her husband being like, you're the West Wilson Hall Pass to my something like, hold on. Let me find it. No, I saw one that was like, you know, no matter how many affairs you have with guys or girls, like I'm always yours. So it's giving like open marriage. Okay, hold on. Jen Fessler.

I want to see what this clip of Westler. and Jesse was. Can I play it? Yeah, put it on. There's so much cut, like, all these crumbs. And then I want to read her statement because I also find it very compelling. Okay, I'm going to play the clip. Roll the tape. Yep. Dated an older gal? I'm not like dated. Well, have you ever been with an older gal?

Yeah, it's actually, yeah. One's kind of steep. What? The, yeah, the ages. It was like one-time thing. Okay. How old was she? I didn't say she was very old. How old was she over 50? Yeah, was she over 60? No, not over 60, but like a high five.

Okay. High fives. High five. And was that a pleasurable thing for you? That was weird. It was weird. But that's like what makes, that's like what is pleasurable. Okay.

I actually saw that when it happened. She's 57. Okay. And I just want to say that's like so fucking disrespectful. Like, I can't believe that like this was everyone's crush. Like, you know what I mean? Like this is a person who literally hates women. It's weird and why, because she's 57.

Jen Fessler's not ugly. She's not like a circus freak. She's like a very normal, probably good looking 57 year old woman. It's like, yeah, it was freaky and weird and that's why I liked it. Like, you're disgusting. You're fucking freak. I saw you new pictures. You're fucking freaky looking, bitch.

Yeah. And the Instagram caption that's been resurfaced is an old picture from her wedding with her husband. And the caption was, happy 27. You could sleep with West or Amanda and I'd still say. Wait. When did she write that? Oh, April 10th. So post like, Scamandoval.

Okay, that's then like a funny caption. Agreed. Yeah, that's what I meant like guys or girls and I still say. Yeah, right. Okay, so we saw the same thing. And that also sort of makes me feel like she didn't sleep with him or else like, why would she be saying that? Now, here is her statement about this rumor that obviously took the internet by

Sorum, everyone's piecing together all these breadcrumbs. She said, in all seriousness, and while I can't help but be a little flattered, it is not nice nor is it okay to post something categorically untrue and defamatory on social media, regardless of whatever rumors or apparent evidence led you to that conclusion. That is the definition of libel. If it were true, I would have no recourse. Because it's a lie, this can get more complicated. Having said that, I hope we can rectify this.

It's enough now. Okay. So it's giving like legal language. It's giving cease and desists, you know? I am so confused because I think her statement and then like her social media activity really is that of a person who's telling the truth. I agree. But there is so much, like we just said, the clip, the capture, like there is so much,

it's not proof, but it's very leading media. Yeah, well, when I, I remember seeing that West clip and I just assumed it was like some older woman when he was younger, like, you know, like a random thing. I never thought it was a housewife and like, or Jen, certainly not like a married one. So that to me, yeah, sure, he's been with an older woman. That doesn't mean it's Jen Fessler. So that's not that compelling. Right.

why, I mean, maybe they've always had like a little cute thing where it's like a joke that she thinks he's cute. That's why Jackie Goldchinder said it. But I don't think that they slept together because I don't think she would put out a statement like this. And I don't know why I'm going to take her out her word, but she just seems like, I don't know. She's like an older, like a serious person. Like if she's saying it didn't happen. Of course, of course. You know, like the dangling legal action, I think she means it.

I agree, except I don't see a world in which Sierra says this, unless she knows it's 100% true. Like there are so many conflicting things. Like I just, my gut is to believe Jen Fessler because I think what she's saying sounds like she's taking it well and like, ha ha, but like seriously stop.

Like it's a good approach. But I can't imagine why Sierra who has remained relatively unenvolved in all the drama and it's just sort of reaping the benefits from this scandal. I can't imagine why the one time she like, you know, debases herself into talking about this. She would like just say a false rumor.

Maybe she thinks it's true. Like maybe they did flirt. maybe there was things that she saw that makes her think that they slept together and so she just like threw it out there in like a not serious manner. I just want to say whether or not this is true I just want to reiterate that I think West Wilson

is like so disgusting. Like even that clip which I hadn't seen until this moment like who talks about a person they slept with like that? Like just he's seriously one of the most misogynistic disgusting and I can't believe everybody like dies for him and like people are like yeah I'd still smash. Like I would seriously rather sleep with, I'm sleeping with anyone.

I'm like, what am I talking about? But you know what I mean? You're not, no one's asking you to sleep. I know, I'm just saying like girls, women of the world,

like go out and sleep with like a fat nerd. Like seriously, he'll be nice to you. I can't believe like this is everyone's king. Do you know what I mean? He's short. He's not even conventionally attractive. And he's so rude.

Yeah, but I also want to say if they, if he was talking about Jen Fessler, that was a couple years ago, I would imagine she saw that. And she still has nice things to say about. him so I feel like maybe it wasn't her. Right, right, right, even though high 50 is like literally 57.

There's millions of high 50 year old women. Around West? No, but like I just took it. I don't know why that clip was from a while ago. I thought it was from like pre-famed. Wait, what clip is pre-fame? He's on Watch it Up and Slime. But it's an old, like from his first season or second season.

He's still famous and he's probably still going to BravoCon. And by the way, it's more likely that they had sex before he was like majorly famous. Because, you know, I don't know. I just feel like it's more likely. I just want to say, I want to go on record thinking, I do think it's true. Oh, I want to go on record.

I don't think it's true. That's classic me. Like, I just can't believe some people are capable of certain things. That's why it's not that I'm like, yeah, I couldn't believe West Mandeval because I could not believe a person could be so stupid. Like,

genuinely, I have faith in humanity. That's why I didn't believe it. And it's just like, Amanda, that's your boyfriend. Like, that's the craziest part.

Like, that's Amanda's boyfriend. Yeah, he was also spotted, TMS, he said he was spotted chopping it up. Not the, at a wedding. Like New York City.

The New Jersey intern. He was also went to a wedding this weekend. Apparently his plus one was rescinded, which I also think is losery. Like, wouldn't that be like his random home friend? Like, that's your friend. Like, let him bring his girlfriend. Agreed. People don't know how to act.

Like, people don't know when to be mad and, like, how to, like, hold their friends accountable. You know what I mean? They just don't know how to act. Everyone's just such a follower. Like, if West is your friend and you're inviting him to your wedding and, like, everybody's getting a plus. one and he had a plus one. Like, let him bring a plus one.

You don't know these people. I agree. But also, like, how would TMZ know that, like, the bride and groom rescinded his plus one, you know? Maybe, like, Amanda just didn't want to go. Yeah. Well, she should have gone. Yeah.

And they are, like, moving forward full steam ahead, public relationship. Like, they just, I think they, they are taking the route of, like, the only way out is through. And, like, you just have to. So, okay, you go to the wedding. But maybe, like, she's had enough. Yeah. I also, like, I just can't.

I mean, we've said this before, but like, there's no way they're having fun. Like, I think it was, like, fun, like, you know, crushing on Amanda when she was, like, the most popular girl in the world and, like, how cool is that? Like, every season. I mean, do you know that video that he posted of her, like, doing the macarena? No. What? I don't think so.

It was posted, like, now we know during their, like, World Win Romance time. But, like, at the time everybody was like, oh, they're best friends. You don't know that macarena video? No, I don't know the Macarena video. And Wes posted it on his Instagram. Amanda Batula dancing video. I can't have you don't know this video She's like wearing your crop top

It's like started the whole thing, hold on Is it still there? It definitely is I don't know if he posts a lot It's from like a few months ago Oh also some breaking news What? Nothing major

Some Sierra joins Love Island USA As the Afterson co-host Oh I thought you were replacing Not the Afterson Right Who was the co-host of Afterson last year Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Does anybody watch After Sun? Not I. Those episodes are some of my least favorite. I've never watched one. And then like someone goes on AfterSun and like says something that's supposed to be like relevant to the conversation. I'm like, but it happened on Afterson. So.

So I unfortunately physically can't watch it. That's sad. As if like Love Island isn't enough content a week. It's literally daily six days a week and hour plus episodes and you're giving us after sun. Like give us a day off, you know, on the seventh day. Let us rest. Let us rest.

I don't see the video, but it was like them in a bar and she's like doing the macarena. That's really cool. She's so cool. The macarena is really cool. It's like wearing a crop top. It's like the most, I hate that video. What I was saying was it was definitely like fun being like in a trist with Amanda,

like crushing on her when she was the most popular girl in the world. Even last summer, you know, just like every room she walks into it. It's like, she doesn't even have to try. And everyone's like, Amanda. Yeah. No, and she literally wears like She's also technically married. And it's like Amanda Stylke. No, and like she was in a situation.

Like she couldn't be his girlfriend. So it's like the sort of forbidden element of it makes it very sexy. And now there's just like two miseries. Two like uncool, unpopular. So, you know, let's see if they want to stay together. They have to. They need to go to the Nicanetria. school of dedication and they need to commit to the bit.

Agreed. That should be on their, they should have a picture of Nicolandria on their fridge, on their front door, in their wallets, like that is who you are emulating. Yeah, agree. Because the way they've committed to the fraudulent relationship.

Mm-hmm. So you're believing that they slept together. That's where we're coming. I am. I'm getting swept up in like the internet. messy wessy yeah that's what's embarrassing that video is the most embarrassing part of this whole thing i agree it was hard to watch but like and it's like you have you literally have kids west sage it was hard to watch but if you watched it when it came out and you thought it was like oh my faves look at my

crossover yeah crossover the yeah i didn't watch it when it came out and i would hope that if i had i'd say hmm that feels weird does nobody think this is weird yeah yeah our next story, are you ready for our next story? Some really sweet news. Olivia Copo announced that she is pregnant and expecting baby number two with her husband, Christian McCaffrey. So Olivia Colbo celebrated her 34th birthday and then she just sort of dropped on us that baby number two is coming soon.

And she posted a bunch of photos of her been pregnant. And now it's just like when. How soon? Yeah, like it's not your typical announcement. It doesn't feel like, you know, end of first trimester. It feels like imminent. I'm just guessing, like she's giving like 20 to 24 weeks. Yeah.

Just a guess. But like if 2020, but you know what to say coming soon? You'd say like coming this summer or coming this fall. Yeah. She likes to keep everyone on our toes. I'm like, I just want, you know, like that really got me on my toes. And I wasn't expecting it. I know, but she's not like nine months pregnant.

You can tell. Like just physically, unless she's like one of those girls, you know? I know. I'm just saying like it was giving that. You think? It's leaving space for that. Well, not to make everything about myself, but, like, Olivia Copo and Lauren Elena, like, are my sisters in pregnancy. And so, like, the fact that Olivia Colpo is, like, moving forward with her next pregnancy, like, the pressure is on.

Like, not to make everything about me, but I saw this. And I was, like, I was kind of devastated. I was like, oh, my God. Yeah. What does this mean? What does this mean for a attorney? Yeah. Yeah.

I think you reach out to your sister? Of course I did. I'm so happy for her. I fucking love her. Like, and then I, like, and then I, I, went to her Instagram to stalk and she has like three pinned posts versus her engagement versus the second is wedding

and then the third is in pregnancy and I was looking through her wedding pictures like I forget, remember all that drama about her wedding dress and like Christian McCaffrey like literally leaving hate comments on the commenters like I fucking love them and then I look at the dress and it is so objectively beautiful

I'm gonna look again even though I agree I can't believe and I see some girls wearing I'm sorry the ugliest fucking like Danielle Frankel wedding dresses that are so trendy and like miss me with that this is the dress that sent the internet into a tailspin, it couldn't be more traditionally beautiful. She's so cute. You see it?

Yeah. Everything. It's long sleeves, satin, shoulder pads. Like the root of all evil. That's her, um, that's her announcement post and like beautiful pictures. The root of all evil is jealousy. Like that's what we need to be reminding ourselves of constantly. By the way.

So when we were talking about this, how like, why can't you be jealous, positive? Why do you have to be like a jealous, ugly, negative wench? I think negative jealousy is envy. Envy is the root of all evil. Because like let me be clear, I am positive jealous of Olivia Culper right now. Yes, I'm positive jealous of so many things. I am positive jealous of fucking everyone. Envious?

Sometimes I do teeter on like on envy. I'm not going to lie. No, it won't catch me being envious. I'm a positive jealous person. Like positive jealousy is the energy we're bringing into the future. Like, yes, it's a yes. Yeah. Oh, also what was like so, um,

about Olivia is earlier this week she commented on our Instagram reel about having like no ambition since motherhood. Oh, I forgot to tell you some major news. Oh, okay. You got a vision back. I got what? Ambition back? No. I but I had enough ambition over the weekend to make a TikTok using my Real Activis, which I used and really enjoyed. And I made a TikTok just like doing my skincare in silence. And then the sound on top of it was our clip of you saying like you had a field day with Rayal Octavis when I saw the same. And Alex Earl commented and reposted it and her comment was, oh, BRB, got to use

the sound. We're going to go viral again because she said, yeah, she's going to use the sound. I haven't seen it yet, but she said she's going to use it. She's going to use it. She's going to use sound. Yeah, so she re-posted. I don't know. You guys probably saw me over the weekend on Alex Earl's TikTok. Did you say? Oh my gosh. Wait, let me go on my iPad and check it out. Oh, no, I don't even have a TikTok to download it.

And then I don't know who's my locket. But I do want to see. But I see you this weekend. You can scroll on my phone like a top line. Or send it to Zach. Okay, yeah, I'll send it to that. That's pretty cool. Yeah, big, big moment for us. I've been loving my balm. I still didn't buy new makeup wipes.

I've been using my balm. You know when I used the bomb over the weekend? It was, it was parjie. It was bomb. It's hard, though, because, like, I like, using a makeup wipe. It doesn't get my hair wet. And if, like, if I'm using a bomb,

then, like, my hair gets wet. In the shower? No, at the sink. I couldn't use a bomb at the sink. I couldn't do it. It's like, oh, my God. The counter is, like, a warm. My shirt, my elbow.

Yeah. It's true. I use a balm in the shower. Balm. The ball. Did you buy your balm at stob? No, I brought it at Rayallac devisse. Dot org. Datta work.

Realactivis's website should be a dot org because they're a non-for-profit with their repost of me. It's true. I appreciate that. Okay. Next story, I feel like, oh, yeah, no, we're okay. Next story, number three. Savannah Guthrie is officially moving in a new career move. She's the host of the new Wordle game show. Okay, that's not where I thought you were going with like Savannah got three.

I thought maybe there was an update on her missing mother. She was back at work and, you know, things, nothing's really come out. A couple days she like kind of like left set. I saw she left in the middle of the show. She walked off set. She's taking on new projects as the host of the new Wordle game show. I always, every time and then I remember Wordle and I'm like, let me do that shit. She made the announcement

Alongside Jimmy Fallon Who's the project's executive producer And I feel like we talked about this So long ago They took way too long Wurdle still has like a big following But like the virality I remember some

The New York Times bought it instantly They were turning it into a game show Really fast and then it never came out And I feel like they sort of like missed the boat Yeah It will start filming this summer So if you are like a Werdl expert You should go on

I'm actually pretty good at Werdahl Really? Yeah. I haven't played since the minute I gave birth to Harry. I never played again. Wow. Yeah. That's when we were playing, Feb, 2022.

I love, what word do you start with? I know you don't do it anymore, but every now and then, I always start with the same word. I forget. I had a good first word. I always start with great. Oh, that's good. Two vowels, G and R, and T, excuse me, are like classics. Someone will remember what I used to start with because we, like, used to talk.

about shit like that. Wordle like that. There was a time for that. I don't know. I actually think it's a good game for a game show. Yeah. And they make game shows out of the dumbest shit these days. Yeah.

And there's like. Who remembers the wall? There's plenty of space for game shows, you know? Like they seem to be like low cost and everybody loves them. I feel like they have a hard time like becoming popular. There are so many game shows that like come and go. I love game shows. It's like one of my favorite genres of television.

I'm actively subscribed to the game show network. work, GSN. And they got the most random shit over there. Jizn. They make a game show out of everything. So I would like for game shows to become popular again. Yeah. Well, you'd have to start watching them. You'd have to start watching them. I do. Did you not hear me to just say I have an active subscription to GSM? But what do you watch other than like Jeopardy? Oh, okay. Jeopardy's not even on GSN while showing how little you know. Yeah, I watch. What game shows do you watch other than Jeopardy? Family feud. Okay

Celebrity family food Okay Which we absolutely need to go on What else do I watch There's a lot of like generic game shows on GSM Like they don't have names But like it's like It's hosted by the guy who does the pitch perfect

The emcee with Elizabeth Banks You know that other guy Oh hysterical Yeah He literally is a host of 10,000 game shows On Game Show People magazine has a game show Like with their crossword Which I'm pretty good at

Tom I feel like it's like Dan. You think it's Dan? No, I think it's Steve. I think it's Tom. Let's look it up. Pitch. Oh, Steve is good.

Or like Andy. I don't know. I'm nervous. No, I'm going to stick with Steve. Okay, stick with Steve. Where is he? John. No, no, no.

I think Steve was a really good guess. Oh, okay. John. John Michael Higgins. Yes, that's his name. Yes, that feels right. He's a John. Well, he's also like,

has my dream job where he hosts all these like random generic shows on the game show network you should shadow him for a day that's my dream to show like doing voiceover work and hosting a game show not to shadow is not my dream to steal his job to shadow john michael higgins for a day is your dream no actually if you can believe that john michael higgins better sleep with one other one fucking eye open right to him cold email him and ask if you can shadow him i'm I don't want to. Like, I don't want to write email and I don't want to shadow. Did you ever shadow someone?

Oh, I think you're going to say, did I ever write anyone in the email? I'm like, yeah. Did I ever, I don't think so. I've never shadowed someone. I can't imagine anything more boring. Did you? I once did. Okay.

Now you have to tell us who, what, when, where, why, how? I don't want to share too much, but it was like a really. Dreadful? It was dreadful. What part of it? if it was dreadful. Like, you know, it's just like, what are you doing? Like, and you're just shadowing someone.

Oh, and the person you're shadowing, like, does not want you there. No, and it's not like they're, like, the president. Like, they're just, like, someone with, like, an entry-level job that, like, you might want one day. And, like, I think they should cancel that program. Jackie, I need to know who you shadow. I'll tell you after you don't know, you don't even, like, there's nothing to you. So why are you being, like, weird about it? Just because I haven't thought about it in so long.

But it was the longest. We're actually, we're still. these were still inside that day. This is a dream you had. The person did me a solid by letting me shadow them. And so. No, no. And you don't have to say the person,

but like what was the context? What if they heard this? They probably felt the same way. Like that it was just miserable. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think that they knew what to do with me. What was the context?

Were you in college? I think I was in college and like you can like get set up with an alum who's like working in a field that you would be interested in. You can shadow. And what was the field that you were interested in like media? Media. Media, yeah. Oh, who?

I don't know this story. Who did you shadow? You don't know them. What company? Like what job did that person have? Okay, they worked at, I'm not telling you because I really would never want them to hear this. And know that I had a negative experience.

I think they just assumed you had a negative experience. Like, it's universal. It's ubiquitous. Like, yeah, shadowing is not a positive fun thing. That's the company she worked for, which actually, like,

it was pretty good. That's where I should be shadowing. Oh, wow. Yeah. Who was it? No one, no one knows. She was just like a... It's actually at one of our competitors.

Yeah, in the media space. Honestly, I was right on track for my life. I was, you know, I knew where I was headed. Jackie, I'm texting you. I found the video of Amanda Patrol of dancing, like, if you want to watch it. Oh, good. Yeah, no, I think to close the loop on that and to stop talking about my day of shadowing. I know, anything to change a subject, even though I will push more after the episode.

Yeah. Oh, my God. You've never seen that video? No. Okay. So he had posted this. He posted this. No, no one had thought a thing about them before the rumors, like, but this was when they were clearly, like, falling in line.

love. Wait, that's really crazy. And was there a caption? Yeah, there was. We posted it on TikTok. That's why I couldn't find it. Yeah, this is what I mean. Like before.

It's important to note that the song she's dancing to is not the macarena. Drama. Yeah. Before West Mandeval, like she just could do the least. And it was like, like, she's wearing jeans and ratty t-shirt and like marking the macarena. the coolest girl in the world, you know? To a song that's not the Macarena.

And now it's like that, you know, she's going to try a little harder. And I think his caption was like, coolest girl ever. Like that was the caption. Like that she's so cool. You guys, they're perfect for each other, unfortunately. It's true. It's just unfortunate that things played out the way that they did. Because I think that they should be together.

To bring it back to your shadowing, which I know you were trying to move away from. And I just think the thing about the bocarena. It's a very complex sense. It's obviously culturally insensitive of her to be doing it. 1,000% Yeah. I haven't done the macarena forever. It's actually a good dance.

It is. One maca, two, maca three macarena. They ate with that. Okay. Are you ready for our next story? What number? Four.

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Michaela Matthews and Taylor Frankie Paul got into it over the weekend. Starting with Michaela Matthews from Secret Lives of Mormon Wives firing back over criticism that she hasn't been supporting Taylored. So Kailer Matthews

or like a really long statement on Instagram saying, I want to get to the, to the whole statement one second. And I just, I want to say, like, a couple of weeks ago, like I made the decision to get off the Taylor-Frank-Paul rollercoaster. Like, I saw all this. I saw her big Mother's Day post.

I saw Michaela. I don't really know what's going on. And I, like, kind of stopped caring. Yeah. Because also as far as I know, like Taylor Freaky Paul's not even filming. Well, I think she might be filming based on what she said. But basically, oh my gosh, okay. It's on a-

You say sorry. The statement is like on a real. So you live like that. You live with ghosts. Here's where I can get it. You forget, but you never let it go. So Michaela posted this. If I was knowingly giving myself rashes,

I wouldn't be expecting sympathy from anyone online or privately. Imagine someone told me, hey, we know for 100% certainty that if you stopped using this cream, your rashes would go away. Then imagine I continued using that cream while still asking people for sympathy and help. Okay, I just want to say this is a weird analogy. I know what she's saying because she suffers some like this really terrible chronic illness

that she doesn't know why she gets these insane flare-ups. So she's trying to like relate it to her story. It's just giving like silly. I just need to read a little bit of this so that like when I read Taylor's response, like it's just in context. She said at some points my friends would probably say we feel sorry for you but stop using the cream

so you can heal. And if I continue to use it over over again for years knowing the outcome every single time was the same, but eventually get to a point where the people who genuinely care about me can no longer enable me by continuing to give sympathy and support the behavior that is clearly keeping me stuck in an unhealthy cycle. She said, so basically Dakota is the cream, right? Dakota is the cream, yes, and she continues to, like, you know,

engage in this unhealthy cycle and know what's bad for her and go back to it and go back to it and go back to it. And so she's comparing it to her rashes. And she was also just explaining why she, it's a very long, I didn't even read the whole statement because it's like, lot of words and and at a certain point like I do hit but I am actively staying abreast but I have my limits right no there is salamma fatigue and so yeah I got the gist she's saying she's not supporting Taylor because like Taylor's doing this to herself and how and you know she's disgusted by what

she's seen blah blah blah so then Taylor posted on Instagram yesterday it was also unfortunate because she like put it in her Mother's Day post which I just thought was like so unnecessary agreed I It also doesn't help her beat the allegations. She's like always putting the drama and everything like before her responsibilities as a mother. So like your Mother's Day post is about Michaela. Like. Yeah.

She said, um, wait, shit. I need to find exactly the, the, um, thing that she said in response to Michaela. Another one that I didn't read in full, but the longest caption ever. But got the gist. Um, I can't deal. I can't deal trying to find all these fucking statements. Just go to Instagram.

I know, but the part that I'm looking for isn't here. Okay, whatever. This is what she said. It's Mother's Day, so I'll say whatever I want as if it's not already the worst time. I still have friends kicking me while I'm down and calling it setting a boundary and then blames me for being upset and responding. That's called shaming and attack while I had a moment to breathe and she knew that. Not once have I called myself a victim, but I'm a huge.

human eye breaking points what a snake friend did to me in public eye after everything she just witnessed the lack of empathy and the bruises yet she's bringing up picking sides yes usually you do for friends you know go through that i don't know and then she said something about like comparing my situation to rashes and cream and then did you see the final photo in her carousel no one second on my way yeah the oh the tears yeah yeah yeah Yeah, I hadn't noticed that. It's like a selfie with her son. She's sitting in the front seat.

Her son is like poking out from the backseat. Also not wearing a shirt. Stop posing pictures of your kids without their clothes on. That's child pornography. And she has like mascara running down her face, but she has like a smile on for her kid. And it's just like I hate that shit. Yeah. That's so performative to me.

It's performing. And also it's like I don't like that message. Like hold it in. Hold it in around your children. I completely agree. Cry on your own time. So to be clear. like do have like my take on the situation it's like a little macaela matthews coded it's like yeah at what

point are we going to start like having agency over our own lives and making you know taking personal accountability and like being responsible and making good decisions but like yeah it is giving like a little not empathetic to the fact like she's in this terrible situation but it's like it's both yeah I didn't love the cream analogy well of course it just sounded stupid too it did it didn't it's obviously not this exact same like no because like you're not like addicted to a cream yeah and it's not like You think the cream is going to cure this one thing, but it's also causing something else. She's not just like using a cream that's all bad.

Oh, and you don't have a child with the cream. Like, it's stupid. All right, we're going to get another Michaela Matthews hate comment. Oh, for sure. That's okay. First Jace and now the cream. I've been hardened. Yeah, it's true.

No, and I feel like it would have been a better analogy if it's like there's something about the cream that you love, but it's also hurting you. No, that's also like addictive. Like, because you're addicted to the cream. Oh, yeah. Maybe the cream has like crack in it. Maybe it's like drugs.

Like you're addicted to drugs and like if your friend was a drug addict addict. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe it's like if she was smoking pot. Here's a better analogy. And the pot was giving her rashes. But the pot was also like making her feel good. That's what I mean.

Yeah, right. It's not just the cream being. Like she also. So stupid. She also loves the cream. And is it. And also right. Right.

The cream. The cream. The cream can sometimes be funny. The cream is also, I guess we said, the cream is an inanimate object. The cream like is sometimes handsome. Right. Cremes don't have feelings, you know?

No, but like, creams can't talk. Sometimes the cream has been there for her, you know, when no one else was. No, actually, it hasn't, like, because it's a cream. She's just like not sharing any remotely redeeming qualities about. the cream that like attracted to right that's because it's a cream by the way attracted taylor to to dakota in the first place like i said i've gotten off this roller coaster i can't with jesse's like voice memo everyone's flip-flopping all over the place like i seriously can't with this group of individuals they're so moronic yeah i do like love the show so i'm trying to stay abreast

like to a degree that's healthy and like you know i can't read every single instagram comment and i'm not even on tictock so i don't even know the half of it um and also like for the show like here's what's going on but i have my limits for sure and i'm not taking aside and i'm one of these things like I understand like I imagine if I were Michaela yes I would not want to film with Taylor I would not want to be associated with Taylor I probably would have probably felt that way for a lot of years and always would have been like punished for having those feelings not being a team player the way like Whitney was when she was like you know piramans aren't going to work with us if they think we're all slinging bars stools like yeah because they all knew that that's what

she did so from like a human perspective I'm I get Michaela from like the other side of it where it's like I don't know them and it does feel like Taylor's going through like seriously the worst a person can go through like I don't feel the need to add on to it. Yeah. I don't know if she is going to like I just don't know. So yeah, that's all. Yeah. Our fifth and final story.

Jake Shane is getting slammed for asking Casey Musgraves to explain a lyric from one of her songs, Slow Burn. I just know that, like, there is a writer at Variety who, like, went to camp or something with Jake Shane and just hates Jake Shane. Because this is now the second time there's been, like, manufactured outrage against Jake Shane.

So this is coming from a variety? It was a variety article. There was, like, maybe, there was, like a clip going around. It was funny. I, like, everybody knows what Jake Shane meant. Like, he asked Casey Muskrae's. In Slow Burn, there's a lyric that's in Beijing. They're headed out to work and in Tennessee the sun is going down basically saying how like time is different and he was like

what did you mean by that and a lot of people like people were passing around the clip and it was like obviously he knows that like there's things called time zones but I think he meant sort in the context of the song what the fuck does that have to do with anything like yeah it's a good question actually it's the most random lyric no and also like it comes it's born of like actually his deep obsession with the song he said that him and manny his friend who he works with debated every single day I think he's like very into the song sober and it's like a really great message born in hurry always late. Jackie, there was no,

no one was talking about this. And if it got passed around as a clip, it was because like it was funny. But like it wasn't, it wasn't, there, variety's like, and this is why we really need journalists. And it's like, no one was saying that. No one was saying that.

It reminds me that Jake Shane clip with Ed Shearren when your legs don't work like they used to before. That was when my grandma fell. Like it's just like funny. And it's also like a style of journalism now where it's like, almost ironic. Dry.

Yeah. And it's funny. So Variety wrote a whole article about it, like they did the last time with the Vanity Fair Red Carpet, like making these tiny non-things into things. And I was glad to see people like not getting swept up in the comments on Twitter, at least, we're like literally, that's not what he said. And I actually think it's a good question. No, and I think sometimes like when people get flack for like journalism, whatever,

it's like born of like not knowing anything about who they're talking to or like they're not looking. researching or whatever, but like he's actually too researched on the song because he's looking into things that aren't there, you know? No, it's a good question, honestly. Especially if it's like, sometimes you wonder about like someone's lyrics or whatever and you're like, if I ever met them, I would want to ask him about that. Absolutely. And I feel like that's what his show is and it's fun to watch.

That's fun. We're having fun. Yeah. Somebody there really doesn't like him. I get the sense now two times in a row because the first one felt mean-spirited. But the first time, like there was a little bit of backlash on Twitter about like his performance on the red carpet. I thought it was fucking hysterical,

but people are such wet blankets. So, okay, fine. I was like, but now I'm like, it's feeling intentional. Yeah. Yeah. But someone there like doesn't like him. That's so crazy because everybody loves him.

There's nothing not to like. He's like the least offensive. It's so true. Brand safe. Do you see Tanamojo's launching a podcast called Brand Safe? I did. After canceled. That's kind of funny.

Yeah, that is. She just keeps saying, Her thing is like she's entering her brand safe era because she's like sober. She doesn't do OnlyFans anymore and she has brown hair. No, but that's funny that like her podcast was canceled and now it's brand safe. I just feel like nobody really wants a brand safe podcast, to be honest. Like that's the whole thing about podcasts is that like they're this renegade media. If you had a brand safe show like put it on cable.

There's a ton of like brand safe garbage. Oh, speaking of brand safe, the roast of Kevin Hart was last night. I didn't watch it. I didn't know that was happening. I feel like there was no commercials or anything for it. Today I've seen like so many stories and clips. So I figure we'll like try and watch. it tonight. We could talk about it tomorrow. Oh, I don't want to watch it. Like, it seriously looks, I think

roasts. And, you know, Joan Rivers, her documentary, she, the time that they covered her was the time that she did a Comedy Central roast. And she was like, they are the most disgusting, awful, well-paid things. I don't understand why a human being would do it. And some people I can understand more than others, but I don't understand why Kevin Hart would do a roast when- Same with Tom Brady. People who don't need the money, who don't need the attention. You don't need the attention. Joan in her documentary, she's like, I'm doing this for the money. Like, I need the money. Yeah.

And it was awful. Every joke, you know, her face, her face, her vagina. It's so misogynistic. I cannot. And like, they all get no-goes. Like, Tom Brady was like, you know, no one's allowed to talk about my family. These comedians don't give a fuck. Kevin Hartz was that, I guess I didn't know this.

He cheated on his pregnant wife. You did know that. Oh, did I? Yeah. Like, it was many years ago. And that was like the thing he told everyone not to talk about. Of course they did. Like, who the fuck would voluntarily not only get up there?

to get roasted, but be one of the roasters. Because if you're a roaster, you also get roasted. I saw them say the most disgusting things about Chelsea Handler. Like, who the fuck seriously would do that? I have no idea. I can understand my people do the roast, especially if they're comedians, and everyone needs a little buzz.

And it can be, like, really great for someone if they have a good roast. And especially, you could always use a little attention when you're, like, a smaller comedian. I do. But Kevin Hart is, like, literally the biggest movie star in the world. Yeah, I think Nikki Glazer, like, made her bones, like a big part of her career,

was being the roast girl. Martha Stewart. Martha Stewart. Like some people use it as like PR. Like Jeff, Jeff, Justin Timber like, Justin Timber like should do a roast. He's the type of person who needs it. Because Justin Bieber did it when he was like kind of like this bad boy and it was a huge part of his rehabilitation.

Justin Bieber we know today is a byproduct of that roast. Yeah. Yeah. But I don't. But yeah. Well loved A listers don't need to be doing this. Kevin Hart seriously is like the most beloved comedian. Especially if you like have something that.

Everyone's going to joke about that you don't like the affair on your pregnant. Skeletons. You shouldn't do a roast because that's really all we're going to talk about. Of course. And you shouldn't give a list of things not to talk about because that's like there are certain comedians who that's all they'll talk about. No, and it's like why shouldn't they talk about that? Like, you know what I mean?

It's something that you did. And we're talking about you. Otherwise don't do the roast. Yeah. Like when Alec Baldwin did it, like that was a good move. You know, he is this like villain like character and there's so much. And he just like sort of leaned in. And I do think overall it had a positive.

positive effect on his cue score. Yeah. But if you have a positive cue score, there's only one place for it to go after a roast. Down. Yeah. And Kevin Hart has the best cue score. Oh my God, he's like America's sweetheart.

Everyone loves him. Everybody loves him. And yeah, it was A-List, Dwayne the Rock Johnson. But like, seriously, I think it's so gross. Yeah. Like, ugh. Who the fuck would want to participate in that?

Well, maybe I won't watch. I just said that. So that, like. No, I'm, like, I, but I saw some Shane Gillis. I just happened to really like Shane Gillis. Like, I thought his jokes were funny. Even Chelsea Handlers. Yeah, the Zionist one and it loved.

But the funny thing is that Chelsea Handler's, not a Zionist. Yeah, and she got him back pretty good too. Yeah, she did. And it's like, did she write that on the fly? Because did she know he was going to say that? It was giving improv. Maybe it was like a couple of hours earlier and she had time to sort of like think about something.

Yeah, she got him pretty good. Yeah, she threw that SNL stler thing right in his fucking face. That's what I mean. People have skeletons. A, sweat, the comedians. Everybody has. Punch. Who would willingly.

show up and sign up for that. I don't know. Never. Never. Never. Never. Are people who have their birthday party and they're like, roast me. Yeah, David Dobrick did that. And he filmed it, but even like regular people, yeah. Oh, Brian did it.

Yeah. Brian Kelly. It was actually very funny. Well, yeah, I feel like if you're a person who is like deeply admired and respected by your friends and family, like they couldn't come up with such terrible things to say about you. feared you've got to be feared yes yes yeah like bryans was actually really like funny and like yeah he is like crazy stories but like for the most part it was pretty nice yeah watch what you say it's yeah roast me you still want you still want those free trips you want those points you want

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