The Toast - Milky Way Midnight: Wednesday, November 1st, 2023

Episode Date: November 1, 2023

Sophie Turner moves on from Joe Jonas as she snogs UK aristocrat who has just ditched his royal ex (The Sun (19:52)Bethenny Frankel claps back at Eboni K. Williams for telling her to 'f-k off' with screenshot of conversation from 3 years ago (Page Six), Ramona Singer cut from BravoCon after using partial racial slur in text to Page Six reporter (Page Six) (25:15)Summer House Star Lindsay Hubbard Breaks Silence on 'Humiliating' Split From Fiance Carl Radke (US Magazine) (35:10)Mean Girls Cast Reunites for Epic Walmart Shopping Spot (PEOPLE) (39:41)DoorDash now warns you that your food might get cold if you don't tip (The Verge) (52:17)Dear Toasters Advice Segment (59:11)The Toast with Jackie (@JackieOshry) and Claudia Oshry (@girlwithnojob) The Camper and The Counselor by Jackie OshryMerchThe Toast PatreonGirl With No Job by Claudia OshrySee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Good morning, Millennials. Welcome back to the toast and happy hump day. How you doing, Jax? Want to hump me? Want to hump you? I will decline politely. It's disgusting. Thank you for the offer.

I know you're surrounded by people who are desperate to hump you, though, so I don't feel bad. I am very blessed. Thank you for pointing that out. I'm looking at a gorgeous pillow of doot-da-doo, and I know that he would love to hump you today. Oh, I think I forgot to, I shared on my Instagram, but a little update with Theo, and I totally forgot to tell you the second part, because I found out yesterday.

Me? Not me. So you guys know, we took Theo to the doctor. His leg was bothering him, and of course, we ended up discovering he has a heart murmur, and I freaked out. I was crying, crying, crying. We did a full EKG, and it was probably the best news we could

have gotten. It's very moderate. He doesn't even need to go on meds. And now we just monitor it for the rest of his life. A point might come, it could get worse, but now we know about it. So we're going to go every six months to get his heart checked. If it gets worse, he goes on meds. If it doesn't, it shouldn't, you know, affect his life. Beautiful. This I knew. But then the whole reason we went for his leg, we finally got the answers to because when he got his heart done, we just got him like

a whole body x-ray. My poor little angel has a bit of moderate arthritis. That's so Theo though. I know. And that's a tough diagnosis. If you know Theo, like arthritis is on brand

for him and his personality. I'm surprised I don't have arthritis. Like it's kind of so me. Yeah. Well, don't like take away from your boy's shine. This is his moment. Like not to make arthritis about you. It wasn't a great diagnosis because, you know, you can't take an antibiotic.

Arthritis is for life. Same for humans. You know, it's just, it is what it is of course I made an appointment with the top arthritis doctorate no not the top just the one that I found um and I'm on it you know given how scared I was all of this news well I wish it wasn't I wish there was no news but I have to have perspective how much worse this all could have been yes so I'm so thankful Theo always in our hearts and I I spoke to so many dog moms especially calf moms you know the community is small it's basically just me and Ariel Charnas spoke to her um her cavalier has a heart murmur I feel good everybody gave me really great advice

and you know what it's okay it's okay he's gonna be okay it is okay he is going to be okay we're do strong do strong we need to make bracelets like live strong that was the craziest time in america i know but it was so pure it was like this was this fad and at its core it was a really great message and it was for like a really good it's so true initiative and the bracelets like were so ugly and yet the the importance of the message message and the initiative outweighed the ugliness of the bracelets it wasn't like it was this fad it was like this designer thing it was just like an ugly rubber yellow bracelet that's similar to what I was gonna say is that what I really liked about the trend was that like everybody had it but they

weren't attainable they weren't hard to come by. They weren't expensive. They were only hard to come by in the sense that they were so popular and exclusive. People were getting like knockoff ones. Like, do you have an original one or do you have like one off the street? They weren't expensive if you get your hands on them, but you couldn't get your hands on them. We desperately need to bring back Livestrong bracelets. I can't remember a time when our country has ever been more unified than when we were raising money for blank? A certain kind of cancer, yes.

I feel like it was like Lance Armstrong. Yeah, it was giving Lance Armstrong for sure. I think he was affiliated. But Lance Armstrong had testicular and I don't think we were all running around with bracelets for testicular cancer, were we? I don't think so. Maybe it was with bracelets for testicular cancer, were we? I don't think so.

Maybe it was just like Livestrong bracelets. Cause. Meaning. Yellow silicone wristbands that say Livestrong. They were created specifically for fundraising purposes for cancer research. However, as time went on, they became very fashionable and popular. I thought you were going to say as time went on, it turns out none of the proceeds were helping cancer research. Because that would happen. That's the documentary that's next.

But I think it's cancer in general. Love the message. Such a unifying time for our country. God bless America. We sold 80 million wristbands generating $100 million in donations for cancer survivors. Wait, 80 million bracelets only made $100 million? They were like about $1.

They weren't expensive. That was iconic. No, like, I'm sorry, whoever spearheaded that campaign deserves like a Cannes Lion Award, a Nobel Peace Prize. Cannes Lion. I guess Nobel because of the money raised, but it really was about the marketing, whoever started wearing them.

And then eventually, like, other people, you know, got got crazy and I think they went off into their different sex like I'm sure you could get a pink bracelet that would be right cancer like all the different colors and categories people kind of broke off into their own tribes as humans do that's human nature but never forget the yellow that unified us where Where did we buy them? I think like probably the Nike store. That's what I was going to say. But was it a Nike initiative? Maybe Nike had partnered with Livestrong. And you could probably get them online if people were shopping online.

No, like these days you would have gotten one on Amazon. But like where were we getting Livestrong bracelets? I feel like they would just materialize in front of you. They were developed by Nike and its advertising agency, Wyden and Kennedy. I'm sure that Wyden and Kennedy won something for this. Ad Age Award. Yeah.

Wow, throwback. Throwback? What were we saying? Do strong. Do strong bracelets. Thank you for tracing back to the origins of that conversation we have a great show it's Wednesday we have three seriously top tier dear toasters today oh great we also have some pretty good stories I had actually an abundance that I whittled down

I also was going to sit here and recap my evening at Heidi Klum's Halloween party but you know my ass vlogged it for patreon so I'll save the exclusive. But can we talk about my costume really quickly? Like I know everyone's sick of me and my four costumes. Oh yeah, because you're that person. But I think I saved the best for last. For sure. That was your most intentional costume.

Yeah, it was like the one I planned out for weeks, like literally not me being on like Poshmark and Etsy. What was your second costume? Oh, no, your first was skeleton, then leather dress, Travis, Fran. Cheek crack hole. You got it. And I just honestly never in my life would I have styled my hair like that. Like if I ever get my hair done, I'm the most boring client ever.

Like beachy waves. You think they're doing beachy waves in France? Like that's me. I'm obsessed with wearing my hair like that. Like it ever get my hair done I'm the most boring client ever like beachy waves you think they're doing beachy waves in France like that's me I'm obsessed with wearing my hair like that like it kind of looked good yeah why wouldn't it look good she's a gorgeous girl it was just of a different time but like still gorgeous that's what why it was a good costume because you know you looked really like someone else but you still looked pretty like I didn't have to put on like a big fake nose you know well you wouldn't be able to do that because then you would get canceled more so than being an actual anti-semite but if you wear a nose oh no oh nose oh nose um so yeah that was my night I'm not gonna recap it too much

because there was some good celebrity uh situation actually I do want to say one thing that happened and I got it in the vlog you have celebs in your vlog yeah because me and Ben went with Taylor and Taylor Lautner so it's crawling with celebs your vlog it's crawling with celebs and after the party we went to get sushi and when we got out of the uber there was a girl walking down the street um in costume and she was dressed with her boyfriend or friend as shark boy and lava girl oh my god and you were with Taylor Lautner and Taylor saw them when we were getting out of the car and just like walked right over to them and jackie like they i don't know jackie they were guffawed as they should be they were shocked he was wearing a wig so we like ripped the wig off because nobody was able to like tell who he was in the wig it was honestly the cutest

thing ever they were freaking out no that's not okay that would be like you running into fran drescher in your costume yeah oh my god do a lot of people dress up as shark boy and lava girl honestly I feel like yeah it's a good niche costume yeah and they were just dying screaming taking a thousand pictures no I'm seriously not okay for these people so you got this on the vlog yeah my dumb ass like stopped recording in the middle and I'm holding up my phone and I think I'm recording the whole time and I'm literally not. Oh, it's okay. But I tried to, I got it in the vlog. So that was just what, it's a really good vlog. I'm so excited to watch. Also Ben's story last night was so crazy of every piece of sushi. Where did you go? And who allowed him to,

I couldn't, what was it? 40 pieces of sushi on his story? Jackie, think about being there, being so hungry and not eating sushi. Oh, but like, was he on his phone the whole time taking pictures of sushi? Yeah. And did he ever like, was it kind of like a prank? Like, I'm just going to like spam my feed with 40 pieces of sushi. I wasn't like thinking so much about Ben's social media strategy. I was thinking about how absolutely ravenous I was. And, you know, like it was omakakase which is like that type of sushi where

you sit at the bar there's no menu like they just give you piece by piece and you eat what they give you that song is actually really about the omakase experience it is and I had to say like oh no I'm not doing the omakase like can I have a bowl of rice did you get it yeah but the thing about omakase is like it's a really serious like Japanese tradition like they don't take lightly to your American bullshit yeah but they do especially the ones in New York they know kosher style so Ben couldn't just like sit down and be like you know fuck it up he had to say like no shellfish and they know kosher style so that they're not bothered by like they're actually really accommodating for me like I was trying

so hard to be like you know funny and be like ah and eventually I think I won the chef over but he takes his craft really seriously it's something like me coming and taking a seat at this table at this bar the restaurant that seats maybe eight people they were like get the fuck out of here bitch why did you go there well so we were trying to make a dinner reservation it was a Tuesday it was like 11 o'clock there weren't many options a diner so I that was a backup option. But like, you know, this is a group of people who like enjoy fine dining. Omakase or a diner?

I mean, for me, it's always going to be a diner. For Ben, it's always going to be omakase. I've never had omakase. If you enjoy sushi and like you really respect the art of sushi, like you watch the documentary Jiro Dreams of Sushi, you love it I'm like half of I like sushi I don't know that like I've not seen the documentary I respect sushi like you didn't see Jiro Dreams of Sushi no I feel like there was a time when that was like the documentary everyone was talking about remember yeah but just added to the list with avatar things everyone saw that I didn't. For me, it's Wedding Crashers.

You're wrong for that. And it's not like I have something against Wedding Crashers. It's just I'm like merely circumstantial. Like I've never seen it. That's really crazy. And it's always on. So I've seen bits and pieces of it. Like definitely I've seen the scene where, you know, they crash the wedding.

But that's it. you should it's you should remedy that you would like it it's it's just no I know it's just a crazy thing about me that is pretty crazy I'm sure you've told me that before but it feels like the first time the very first time oh god let's not go down this rabbit hole some of our older toasters were literally their ears were bleeding listening to us talk about like 80s rock. For sure. We knew it would. Like as I was speaking, I was like.

I knew we were. You knew you were causing pain. I knew I was veering into territory I should not be in. It feels like the first time. Who sings that song yet? No. Who sings it? No clue.

I think. Oh, it was like a band that we hadn't heard of. And that's what started the whole thing. It was like the revolutionists or something. I thought what started. The fundamentalists. I thought what started it was. The Foreigner.

Thank you. That's what I said. But I thought what started it was the song. And it brings out the woman. Oh, wait, it's the same song. We have to stop. we have to stop we have to stop maybe since we keep going to this place like maybe we were meant to be here right maybe the universe is bringing us to this place to begin our journey journey the band oh

people didn't like that i keep calling it the band journey but like i don't want you guys to think i'm talking about a journey. Oh, wait. Also, I meant to issue a correction. Randy Jackson was in Journey, like briefly. He played backup. He wasn't like an official member, but he's definitely a part of their herstory. So you're saying Google got it right?

Yeah, shocking. That is shocking. Google got it right. Okay, cool. What were we saying? I had one more thing to say about whatever we were saying. Dear Toasters, Omakase, my journey at Heidi's Halloween. Heidi's Halloween. Did you see the peacock in IRL?

I did not. Cool. One year I just like want her to go as like, you know. Like a nurse. Yeah, from Spirit nurse. Yeah. From Spirit Halloween. Like, I think that would be the only thing that could actually shock people at this point. Yeah.

She, I feel like, is getting more and more extreme every year. Like, last year was the worm. Yeah. The year before that, she dresses herself with like a bunch of clones. That one was, I thought was cute. I just feel like she's on this vicious hamster wheel Where she has to keep outdoing herself And honestly she needs to reset She needs to reset

Like go to Spirit Halloween Off the rack Show up See what happens Off the rack Yeah Okay well let's get into everything Because we have a lot to accomplish today

Oh we didn't even talk about Toastoween How well received that was Yesterday was a crazy long day. And Toast-a-ween was a highlight. I think that's going to go in our Hall of Fame. Ben really made the episode. Ben made the episode. Seriously, like, I can't.

He's deeply unwell. And Halloween is the time where he gets, like, really expressed that side of himself. Because I'm always, like, suppressing it. Yeah. And I'm glad that he got that out of his system. It was so great on the episode. It was so funny. And I loved every minute of being Jason Kelsey. I too enjoyed being Trav. I like being a man once a year. I like being a man too. Honestly, it's so chill. It's so chill. Even the way we were sitting. No, I miss crossing my legs. You

could see I was like fighting it the whole time. By the way, during sitting. No I miss crossing my legs. You could see I was like fighting it the whole time. By the way during the ads I was crossing my legs because I could go back to being turdy and then when the ads were over I had to start manspreading again. Manspreading is like not that comfortable. Yeah. But I guess it's because we don't have penises. Yet. Right. Next year's Halloween. Next Halloween we're gonna get really really we're gonna get really serious so into character i think honestly i can't imagine anything more uncomfortable than having a dick like who needs that yeah not a different strokes for different folks so i believe without further further do to do to do about do strong our newest campaign. Here are the best five stories that you need to know.

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Send the code, too. Send the link. Send the code too. Send the code. Thank you, Claudia. You're welcome. Our first story, new flame of thrones. Sophie Turner's moved on from Joe Jonas. What? As she snogs a UK aristocrat who has just ditched his royal ex.

Oh, I'm obsessed. Yeah, so Sophie Turner shared a tender kiss with one of Britain's most eligible bachelors who has just ditched a real life princess. Sophie wrapped her arms around aristocrat Peregrine Pearson, whose family are said to be worth 224 million pounds, as he courteously removed- What's the conversion?

Let me just look. It's almost one to one. So I think it's a little more dollars, look it's almost one to one so i think it's a little more dollars but it's always changing these days the dollar is crap right pounds dollars i just need to see it's not 272 272 272 um he removed his hat to snog her in paris and then they reunited later at the Rugby World Cup, where she presented the trophy to the Rugby World Cup, looking amazing, looking so gorgeous in such a cool, gorgeous outfit.

Also worth noting, Peregrine is the heir of the fourth Viscount Caudray, and he split from King Charles's goddaughter, model Princess Maria Olympia of Greece and Denmark, 27 in September. Olympia. Okay, I need to just look up a picture of this man so I can visualize. I didn't hear this story, so you're delivering this news to me in real time. The son. Go to the son.

They have the photo of them kissing on the street in Paris. And the photo of the ex-girlfriend. Photo from rugby. They have the team. I'm obsessed with this. I feel like, remember how we always say, like, when Joe Jonas was dating Gigi Hadid, it was, like, very hard for him to, like, top that. Yeah.

And he ended up with Sophie Turner and honestly, like, crushed it. And same goes now for Sophie Turner. Like, the Jonas Brothers are really, like, America's sweetheart. They're so famous. Where do you go from there? Honestly, like, it's hard. You really do have Sophie Turner. Like the Jonas Brothers are really like America's sweetheart. They're so famous. Where do you go from there? Honestly, like it's hard. You really do have to pivot. And pivot she did.

Pivot she did. This is a wonderful pivot. We know she wants to be spending time in the UK. Nothing like a homegrown boy. Okay, I'm looking at these photos. Let me say, I love what she's wearing to this rugby affair. Oh, love what she's wearing. She's got great style.

Obsessed. Oh, his ex-girlfriend was King Charles' goddaughter. I said that. I'm sorry. I was looking for pictures and I wasn't listening. She's so like classic British aristocrat looking girl. She looks like the type of girl who dated Prince Harry. Greek and Denmark aristocrat.

Yeah. Obsessed. He's very handsome handsome he's not like so hot which i think is good nobody wants to date someone who's like so hot then you always have to be just like looking over your shoulder at you know what harlot is trying to steal your man but for sure you still need to look over your shoulder they want to steal your aristocrat too a hundred percent i'm obsessed with this situation aristocracy is exactly what sophie needed for real like she's a british queen she's queen of the north yeah and i love yeah i feel like that's that's her vibe i'm

sure he like gets down she likes to have a good time they can you know travel the world go to these events have a good time like he's on her level like there's nowhere that like he gets invited to that they wouldn't be more than happy to have her at you know yeah and and I'm sure like same goes for him like there's nowhere he can't get into it's like it's like that yeah that TikTok do you know who my father is right right when I bought this club I am so happy I also do feel like someone could say like this is relatively quick I don't fucking care I feel like when it's so contentious and it was I'm sorry you can't convince me with like the media like you're the love you had is gone you are so ready to be loved and moved on I'm obsessed does this guy have kids I don't think so I don't think he's ever been

married he's 29 so probably not he's probably like you know a little bit bachelor boy but I feel like he would give it all up for Sophie no I'm so happy like I love I'm sure people will be like she's moving on too quickly like I agree with you I don't care who knows how miserable they were for how long and like she's young like get back out there yeah no like what we should be wasting our lives being missed joy in your life and it's like even if this isn't like her next relationship it might be soon for a relationship just because you need to grieve and everything like yeah why can't you have fun why can't you enjoy life uh that's a good question whatever happened to fun love I love this and she's just so chic and like these types of events like no other celebrities going to like the world cup of rugby

like it's so elevated yeah it is and I guess we're just gonna have to wait and see who Joe dates I feel like he's like not gonna date someone for a while yeah but I think he'll impress with whoever he like who he dates next he has nice taste in the ladies he does he does that's very true. They all do. They all do. Everyone does because women are wonderful. It's so true. So true. So congrats, Sophie. We will be keeping a close eye on these two.

I feel like it's been so long since you told me something on the toast like I genuinely had no idea about. I love that for us. Like I hadn't even heard. I love that. Breaking news for Turdy. Me too. And maybe for some other people.

Yeah. Look up these pics. The sun has the pic. They're like at the train station smooching. Love. Yeah. Okay. Let's get into our next story.

You ready? There's been some fallout from this Variety Bravo article that came out. I saw. Two notable things. First, Bethany Frankel and ebony k williams are kind of um beefing bethany clapped back at ebony for telling her to fuck off with a screenshot of a conversation from three years ago so in response to the variety article and um bethany you know championing the the real housewives and unionizing whatever um bethany

had said um she expressed negative opinion about the reality stars efforts sorry ebony said you think i'm gonna get let some white girls speak for me with my experience with a billion dollar corporation right they were referring to this lawsuit and then bethany's like representing a lot of people and ebony was asked like, are you a part of this? And she's like, no. Right. So then Bethany posted a screenshot of her DMs with Ebony. She wrote in response to Ebony K. Williams telling me to fuck off.

And it was a message from Ebony from June 2020 saying, we met on a private flight from Palm Beach to New York City a couple of years ago. Just thanking you for consistently using your platform for tangible change. and then Bethany responded when she saw it in August 2022 wow I never saw this thanks and I'm sorry so late so I guess it's Bethany saying like oh you didn't want me to fuck off then but now I'll fuck you know like I don't think that screenshot really proves anything it just proves like she was once a fan but But she's not being a, like, if the message had said, like, oh, my God, Kelly, I met you. Like, love, here's the picture we took. Like, I don't think it's, like, a damning thing.

Actually, I think what Ebony said is, like, a very respectful and nice compliment. Like, of all the things someone could say to Bethany, like, to commend her on her charity is so, it's such a nice thing. So I don't really feel like this message proves anything other than like Ebony being a nice girl yeah I think it just proves that at one point like Ebony had respect for Bethany and now she's telling her to fuck off yeah and I'm sure Ebony now has a lot more experience with Bethany you think yeah what would their experience have been like I feel like the way, I don't know, when I, when I hear about like things Bethany said about the new Roni women, it's like, so I am sure at the time, I don't remember. I'm sure when, when Ebony came on the show, I'm sure Bethany like wasn't, you know, receptive

woman, supporting woman, queen. Understood. Okay. Like, I don't, Ebony's not a mean person. I don't think Ebony would say something about Bethany unless she had a reason to dislike her, honestly. Yeah, or she just doesn't want to be a part of whatever Bethany's got cooking for whatever reason. Like, she wants to do her own thing.

Like, she's not going to have Bethany speak for her. Plus, as we said, like, Bethany did get so much from the show. Like, she's not in the same position as the people that she's proclaiming to want to champion. It's true. And also, I think with her own, with her union and her lawsuit, I think a lot of people feel like Bethany,

her heart is definitely in the right place, but she might have some ulterior motives and like her being the face of the movement. So maybe Ebony's like, no, if I have my own experience, I'm going to champion that on my own, not under someone's umbrella. Maybe that's what she was she was saying yeah but a fuck off is a little strong agreed agreed but sometimes you know you say things in a strong way and no and I know if somebody ever transcribed something I said it comes off trans harsher it does I'm always like

oh that bitch but I'm not calling that person a b-i-t-c-H. I'm like, oh, that bitch, you know? Or it can be like, oh, fuck off with that. Not like, fuck off. Yeah. So verbal transcriptions, honestly, do nobody any favors. I agree. But then the second part of the variety thing that I think is bigger news. Ramona.

Ramona has been dropped from BravoCon after using a partial racial slur in a text to a Page Six reporter. So Ramona, as we discussed on the show when the Variety article came out, there was an allegation that there was a hot sheet that said that Ramona used the N-word. And then Ramona texted a Page Six reporter a screenshot of a page six article. The screenshot that said this, the real estate, real estate brokers comment about Roni not needing black people reportedly made producers hot sheet, a post filming document that recounts on camera dialogue and action in detail.

And Ramona texted that to the reporter and said, this never was on the hot sheet. If you read Vanity Fair article, please remove. And the reporter wrote back, that was changed yesterday. Then. So Ramona was texting with a Page Six reporter. The Page Six reporter was kind of recapping, writing other stories for Page Six about the Vanity Fair article. And they clearly misrepresented what the Vanity Fair article said.

So Ramona was just like clearing her name. And then Ramona said, this is also upsetting. And the word I used was quote n word like wait this is gonna be a very hard story right she said I used the word n word like she said it no okay like n word No, the N word. She wrote N-W-O-R-D. N-W-O-R-D. Okay.

That's the word she used. Not the slur. So Ramona texted N-W-O-R-D to the page six. Yes, and she said, that's what she said when the article said. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. The article said Ramona. Ramona's saying she said when when the article said oh oh the article said she never used the real word she just said quote yeah we'll say real word and yeah perfect yeah this is this is hard so ramona's telling the page six person i never used real word the word I used was N word. And then she goes, not N-G dot, dot, dot, dot, dot. So the N- Ramona has got to be stopped.

So the N-G is the partial slur that Ramona used that's gotten her dropped from BravoCon. Honestly, I highly doubt it was just this. It's the whole thing. Like, I don't know if they would have dropped her I think they would have dropped her just anyways but like but like why would this is my issue with all of this it's like they drop her now even though they had her at the last BravoCon when this had already been done they knew they knew this was done this is not new information to anyone there it's just about like how they look to the public perception what do

you actually fucking stand for no that's so true it's so true because Ebony said and in the article like this whole thing happened in like 2021 so it's years we had heard like rumors about it there was an investigation and they didn't feel compelled to do anything out of you know the goodness of their heart or out of righteousness or out of what they felt was right and wrong now it came out in Vanity Fair they still didn't even do anything and then this text message which if if everything in the Vanity Fair article is true this text message is small in the grand scheme of things this text and is gonna be what's she's getting asked for after all the other allegations like it just it's very but that's so bravo like we say this all the

time about like things happen years before and it's not until like they get some heat even though they knew about these things like endure like things were preceded as right ramona was on ultimate girls trip like they don't really care. It's just about public perception, which is lame. Yeah. So now. So I guess this is like really probably the final straw for Ramona with the network. But I feel like she was already done with the network. Both like there's not really a job for her because they don't,

they're not doing Roni Legacy. I guess she was doing the Ultimate Girls Trips. But she's also said she's like done with it. She's in a great place and she's just living her life. but if she was going to bravo con like that's the thing with bravo con really created like another dimension of bravo leberties of people who aren't on the air but who still will come to bravo bravo con maybe be on watch happens live like the shots of sunset people were at bravo con last year and the show had been paid to go to bravo con i don't think so i don't think so either but i feel like it's but you get an

opportunity to do like a thing at your at a booth for your brand like you can sell t-shirts your to go to BravoCon? I don't think so. I don't think so either, but I feel like it's... But you get an opportunity to do like a thing at your, at a booth for your brand. Like you can sell t-shirts, your merch. So you make money. But also if you went

on Housewives for fame, like that's probably the most famous you'll ever feel. Rewarding. That's like what we talked about this week when the article came out,

the housewife who said like, how will I ever be happier than this? Because she was just like showered with love and fame. And your name is being chanted. Yeah. Yeah.

So I do feel like this has to be sort of the end of the road for Ramona's relationship with Bravo in any capacity. It's just so weak from Bravo that it's because of this, based on everything else that was said, and she still had a relationship with them. And it was like buried. Yeah. because of this based on everything else that was said and she still had a relationship with them. Like, and it was, it was like buried.

Yeah. But if it, if they stand so against this and where were, where were you when it happened? Where were you then? I also feel like this article, like, yes,

we're talking about the fallout and like the backlash, but I don't really feel like it moved the needle that much. I don't think people were really shocked by anything in it. Yeah. And I don't think they really care. Yeah. I haven't really heard much aside from like what the two things I just shared but that's also me seeking it out for stories today like I really didn't hear about it organically on my own right so that's what's going on in the Bravo world are you excited for BravoCon I am I actually like leave really soon i need to get outfits and i'm lit you should re-wear what you wore for halloween last night like as a regular outfit for life really it looks

great okay like france she had style she had flair she was there that's how it became shenanigans but she also like like had eternally good style style yeah. Yeah, she was kind of timeless. Free idea. Love that. Love. Actually, there's more going on in the Bravo world. Oh. Summer House's star, Lindsay Hubbard, has broken her silence about her humiliating split from Karl Radke.

So Lindsay sat down for an interview with Us Weekly and is mentioning it all. I feel like she could have gotten like a bigger exclusive, you know? Yeah. I wonder, she was at a rooftop in Laos. I feel like she could have gotten like a bigger exclusive, you know? Yeah. I wonder, she was at a rooftop in Laos. I don't know. It's weekly.

There's some pics. She looks great. And she's talking about how she's been doing since the split. She said the first month she allowed herself to feel all of the feelings, go through the sadness, the pain, the whiplash. She said, I process things by talking about my emotions and my friends allowed me that space. She said the way that Carl handled everything was such an absolute betrayal of my trust.

And when that happens, it makes it easier to pick yourself up and put yourself out there again. Yeah, I get that because it's like, oh, I'm so done with this person. They're not the person I thought they were. She also said she had no idea this was coming. She said every couple has normal arguments, but nothing that would have been so drastic as to break up. It was literally the last two weeks of summer that his demeanor and tone changed there was a

lot of combativeness and aggression on his end and I was very confused she said planning the wedding was high stress plus we were filming all summer I think people got in his ear but it's not normal to call off a wedding because you had a couple of arguments she said the breakup was absolutely humiliating it would have been one thing if the conversation happened over the summer during the normal filming schedule, but for Carl to call up producers and then set up cameras and manipulate me into sitting down so he could break up with me after we'd already wrapped is scary.

The whole world found out within 30 minutes of me. She said she had the most amazing group of girlfriends who rallied around her and supported her, including Danielle. They are very close again, but I think also some of the other girls in the summer house, she said other girls were there for her. And I don't know if everything she's saying is true,

like then that's crazy. But there really are two sides to every story. And like, I have such a hard time seeing this being the reality where like one day he wakes up, calls a camera crew and breaks up with her. You know, it's like the other things had to have happened. She said it was two weeks. I think they were arguing a lot, which is pretty normal for a fiance months before a

wedding. And maybe just to one person, it's like, OK, this is a normal amount of pre-wedding arguing and we're destined to be together. And for another person, it's like okay this is a normal amount of pre-wedding arguing and we're destined to be together and for another person it's like this means no yeah this means we shouldn't be together really I was actually really shocked when they broke up more shocked than them getting together and getting engaged everybody was so shocked there we're moving so quick like none of that shocked me this shocked me yeah me too it still shocks me and I feel like I won't be able to come to terms with it until I watch the season a hundred percent like right now I'm reading this I'm being like

get back together no it's literally no but once I watch the season I'm gonna be like never that's how I feel about every like relationship that at one point I loved like Lala and Randall now yeah that's such a good point I um I went to what it would be like for them at Bravo Con like they're still like co-workers yeah and she was also saying like it's hard because he was her best friend like he she not only lost her fiance but like that friendship is done knowing yes she like really isolated herself too everyone sort of they isolated themselves but everybody kind of like pushed them away yeah so they were on an island of just them two and now they don't even have each other I'm glad she's friends with Danielle again and I feel like annoyed because them breaking

up kind of validates everything Danielle was feeling but I stand by like nobody has ever acted crazier or worse or has been more wrong than Danielle on this season of Summer House and Lindsay said um in this interview that she still doesn't think they went too fast because when you create a friendship that we i don't that we had over eight years you know this person you know their quirks flaws and boundaries you bypass that getting to know your face so i agree like something happened yeah that summer and maybe we'll see um she'll you're saying it happened when it happened one summer she said she gave the ring to her jeweler to sell she needs to make up for all the lost money on the wedding like she's just being like real as fuck that's real as fuck that she kept the ring i don't know well he broke up

with her so yeah fuck you i feel like the only really appropriate time to get to give the ring back is like if you're calling it off if you're calling it off and like this guy's so in love with you and it's just like the wrong thing to do. Yeah. Or like if it's a family heirloom. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

She's going to be writing a book too. Love that for her. Monetize girl. Capitalize on the moment. Yeah. So it's a very extensive interview. Check it out on Us Weekly. No stone left unturned.

No stone left unturned. Are you ready for our next story? Mm-hmm. It's our fourth story. And you feel ready. Speaking of Cannes Lions Awards, one of the best ads I've ever seen has just come out. Mean Girls cast has reunited for an epic Walmart shopping spot for Black Friday.

Where have I been? I don't know. I watched this ad this morning. Claudia, it looks like the Mean Girls sequel that's coming out. It was so good and well-written. Everyone's in it except for Regina, of course. What? Yeah, but we knew that she like doesn't really fuck with them.

But Lindsay Lohan, Amanda Seyfried, Lacey Chabert, Daniel Franzese, who's Damien, and Rajiv Surindra, who's Kevin G is in it. And they all have like their children. Okay, I'm watching it Be quiet Yeah watch it Oh it's two minutes long It's worth it

You're not gonna want it to end And Wednesdays We still wear pink Get in sweetie Oh those are their kids But now We shop Walmart

Black Friday deals Buckle up Karen Smith here With the weather There's a 30% It's already Wednesday. This wasn't regular shopping. This was deal shopping.

Oh, this is good. Back to your tub. This is good. I'm not here to stop you from doing your thing. Kevin J. Kevin Jr. I was still getting schooled. Gruel.

Huh? What's gruel? It's nothing. Man, I don't have to set something i'm dead it's still not gonna happen we were a school obsessed if you have walmart plus you okay i will finish watching it later nobody needs to watch me watch the whole thing but i love first of all high production value i cannot believe regina wasn't in it that's really loser of her it is if like i'm sorry it's not like everyone in the crew is a big loser like Lindsay Lohan Amanda Seyfried Amanda Seyfried like

come on do better Rachel do better she probably didn't expect that it would be this good because most things aren't especially if it's like I don't know the Walmart writers writing a commercial for Mean Girls but like that looks like a premise for the next movie it's like Gretchen's daughter you need to like keep watching and then also what's exciting is they're gonna keep releasing new commercials every Wednesday until their Black Friday sale so oh by the way these girls are getting paid like paid it's Walmart it's multiple ads it's the usage of like you know the mean girls IP but I feel like the writing was so good and the premise was so good and they are doing a sequel I I wonder if this is the concept. It's like Gretchen's daughter is the new Regina.

Katie is the guidance counselor. No, Katie Herron being the guidance counselor is the best thing. Like that was her story arc. Like who better to guide the kids than somebody who was so misguided, you know? Yeah, no. And like Gretchen's like kids doing the TikTok dance and she's like filming them. It's really perfection. Oh, I love that. I can't get past the Rachel McAdams thing it's so losery I'm sorry yeah and it's losery especially that

it's so good and she's not a part of it yeah no and I'm sorry like Amanda I would argue Amanda Seyfried is more highbrow actress like out of the two of them I think I would I would only say no because like Rachel has made me feel this way by not by abstaining right and I guess like she wasn't an Oscar nominated film spotlight spotlight but I feel like Amanda Seyfried goes to the Oscars yeah and I mean she did Elizabeth Holmes yeah Maybe she doesn't go to the Oscars. We've been down this road before. We have. Of like looking up what Amanda Seyfried has been in.

And assessing whether or not she's a big star. She's a big star. No like a A list. Like fancy. Fancy. I just like honestly. I love this. It's so well done.

I agree. I can't wait to watch the whole thing but it it makes me look at Rachel McAdams differently it does like I'm sorry yeah but it also reminds me towards the end of Mean Girls when like the three of them were hanging out without her and she kind of like went and she became like a field hockey player maybe she's

you know at the Olympics oh maybe that's next Wednesday she should jump in she'll probably get a couple it probably is too late I believe they've all been filmed but she could do like something like Samantha Jones calling in on the phone remote yeah remote where she's like a field hockey coach for her daughter's soccer team and they they're traveling the world. I love being a field hockey coach for a soccer team. If anyone could do it, it's Regina George. Yeah. So that's some exciting

ad news. Yeah, that's cute. It's nice when companies like make waves, not in the Super Bowl. Yeah. Also, you need to keep watching because it's also such a good ad for their Black Friday sale, which starts on Wednesday. I know everything about Walmart deals. By the way, it's Black Friday season. Did you see that meme going around like, hey, stores, we don't need any more flat screen TVs. Do the groceries. Yeah. It's just so true. Kathy Hilton posted that meme. That's why I saw it. That's really funny and really true. That's really funny and really true. Do like, we need to do eggs, do eggs. Yeah.

Yeah. I made some egg bites yesterday. I'm sure you saw. I saw. Oh, did you get any trigger treaters? A few. Did you? I got, I got two and Ben, I was in the bath for one of them.

So Ben answered the door. I missed one. How was the experience? Honestly, extremely unpleasant. Why? Because I just ate all the candy. Yeah, that's the hard part. I didn't even have a good selection because the store was out of like the mixed bags because I was late. So what'd you get?

I got like a bag of mini crunch bars, mini Hershey bars and mini Snickers. So only had three different types. Crunch bars. I was limited. People like them. I don't I don't the thing is they get away with a lot because you think that they're like good and crunchy and chocolatey but they suck no let me tell you why they get away with a lot because they're a distant cousin of the bunch of crunch and bunch of crunch is still just like people all right I'll do it in bar for crunch

coattails a hundred percent I feel like crunch bars, who's actually buying them? They only ever show up. But nobody, and like, especially the big ones. Nobody seeks out a crunch bar. So I ate a lot of candy this Halloween and not even good candy.

That's the worst. Like if I had eaten like good Milky Ways, like good shit, I would have felt like, all right, you know what? I ate a shit ton of candy, but at least I enjoyed myself.

I was like hating myself eating these crunch bars. Yeah. I'm sorry turdy loom it's a tale as old as time are you ready for what in your opinion when there's a big bowl of mixed candy like what do you go for what's the number one like what are you always looking for I always Twix is my number one and it's also very ubiquitous it's pretty much in every bowl so I'll always go for the Twix I also love Almond Joy and I like a Milk Dud I feel like there's no better candy hot like Milky Way is the number one candy and I feel like nobody agrees I like I think a lot of people agree with you I will never really electively eat a Milky Way or a Snickers until they're the last ones. And then I would eat the Snickers first and then the Milky way.

Wow. It's always Twix first for me. Twix is always last for me. Have you ever seen the Milky ways that are in the yellow packaging and it's just caramel. It's like extra caramel. Also like a pack of M&Ms. I would grab.

Always. I like a York peppermint patty. That's like a healthy candy. Do you know what I mean? Almond Joy and York, like those are like, that's like toxic diet almond mom type of shit. No, Three Musketeers is. Okay, I hear you, but I want to say.

They're good. Three Musketeers is good. I was going to say I like a Three Musketeers, but since they're so airy, they are a little less caloric. And back to the Milky Way. So of course there's the tiny little fun size. Yeah. Then there's the smaller snack size. That is just the perfect size candy. Yeah. Fun size. Like honestly, I love the Milky Way. I don't think I can really finish the big one. Like seriously, I need like three glasses of milk. Like it's so dry. Yeah, also, but then I feel like Milky Ways,

they kind of have a surplus of Milky Way Midnights, which are not good. I'm so glad you're talking about the Milky Way Midnights because we need to fucking talk about it. Just stop making them. Nobody's ever electively going for a Milky Way Midnight over a Milky Way regular. Stop making them.

It's basically just, I don't know, by the way, I've never even had one. It's just a Milky Way with dark chocolate. It's Midnight's and it's wrong. Midnight's,

it's disgusting. Mars, that's probably the company. Stop. Stop. Milky Way Midnight's are an industry plant. Yeah,

they're fucking everywhere. Nobody's actually buying them. I know that my bowl downstairs is only the Milky Way Midnightights are left because nobody wanted also I can't believe we've had this conversation because I'm also always gonna go first for a Kit Kat obsessed that we can agree on that I think everybody can agree on we'll meet at the Kit Kats have you ever been to uh Hershey, like Hershey World, the factory? No, have you?

Yeah. Oh, because I think you went to a camp where they took you, but I didn't go to that camp. It's one of the most magical places on earth. Like Disney adults, I'll never understand. Hershey adults, I understand you. Hershey adults greater than? 100%.

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Our fifth and final story, Turdy's Choice. It's a Turdy's Choice. Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum. DoorDash now warns you.'s a turdys choice choice choice door dash now warns you that your food might get cold if you don't tip orders without tips included ahead of time look less lucrative to drivers meaning you might be waiting longer so door dash has added a pop-up in its app this week warning customers that orders with no tip might take longer to get delivered the pop-up says orders with no tip might take longer to get delivered are you sure you want

to continue dashers can pick and choose which orders they want to do orders that take longer to be accepted by dashers tend to result in slower delivery the move appear yeah of course if i was a door dasher i wouldn't even fucking accept that one the move appears to be an effort by door dash to show customers that drivers are likely going to prioritize more profitable work. I mean. Duh. Duh. No, I was shocked when I found out that there are uncertain apps. You can place your order, put in a tip, and then after the order is delivered, you can change the tip to zero. That's what people do to get their things prioritized. Like seriously, those people should be banned from the app. They should. you should get like a few chances to be

able to do that like what if your delivery experience was actually crap right um but if you do that like more than a certain amount of times in a certain period of time like you should be banned from the app 100 100 because you know what ordering food is a privilege so if you are going to be placing an order for delivery you know that's more expensive than cooking at home you have to be prepared to tip your driver like I'm sorry you are vile you are disgusting and don't fucking do it yeah it shouldn't even be an option by the way like the absolute minimum that they charge you okay like if you want to be really cheap like five percent but there should be there you shouldn't even be allowed on any of these apps to do zero percent. Yeah. So and honestly, more of the apps should be

doing this. I feel like a lot of these apps, whether it's like for like Uber rides or delivery, like they should have a more concerted effort to get their their drivers, whether it be for deliveries or just for, you know, trips. There should be more of an effort on the platform to make it. Impossible to not do it. Yeah, for sure. I mean, it goes back to this bigger question about tipping in general, like tipping culture. I think that's a different thing. Especially in this country, it's like out of control. Like people come here from other countries and they don't tip it like wait service in other countries because it's baked into the cost of whatever you're doing. And so it's a question of like,

should the platform charge more and pay the drivers more? Or is it on people to tip? I mean, I'm not one of these people who's doing $0 tips. But I feel for the people who aren't getting tipped and should it be on the platforms to pay their workers more we live we live in an insane tipping culture i'm not i don't think that this refers to that because this

is a scenario where a person deserves to be tipped you went grocery shopping you did all the heavy lifting you deserve a tip the joke running joke where they flip the ipad around after somebody brings you a cup of water like that is insane tipping culture has gotten so far out of control but there are actual tasks especially with all these apps when somebody does like a job for you think that it should be on the app like instacart like the tip is baked into the instacart fee which should be more that way no one gets no I think wait say that again Instacart charged more for their services so that it, and it went to the- And then they just paid a livable wage to their drivers. I don't know because things like Instacart, somebody doing grocery shopping for you, like that's like a

typical thing, you know? Like they're, I can't explain it. It's like, yeah, to me that's like a typical job but I guess a world in which like restaurants paid all their staff a nice hefty sum salary and you don't tip like to me that makes sense but somebody doing your grocery shopping for you that's like a like they're doing you a favor almost like you tip someone who's doing you a favor yeah but I feel like you could always still add tip add more tip but then it makes it so that if the person got no tip which is so crazy to do no unfathomable and that makes it so even if they did get zero tip like they still got paid decently for the work I'm sorry if you can't afford to tip then you shouldn't be ordering it's not right no it's not no I don't know what the answer is for tip culture honestly Honestly, like I, there are parts that are like so crazy.

Arguments can be made for both, both ways. But then it's like, but then when the company winds up charging you more, they wind up taking more. The thing about the tip is that 100% of it goes to the person. Right. Even if, so even if the companies are corrupt. Even if Instacart was like, okay, we're going to charge you a 15 you a 15 service fee and that's gonna be the tip so don't worry about tipping like would they give the whole 15 to the driver probably not nah no it's by the way a big

portion of the fault goes on the companies but company's gonna company, you know? Right, right. We still have to be decent human beings. You know, I see shit like this all the time. Like dash cam or a ring doorbell footage of like somebody, like a door dash driver coming back and being like, you took my tip away. I literally carried like cases of water for you. Like, it's disgusting. Taking the tip away is so crazy at least if you're going to do zero then submit it as zero and and see if anybody bites you get what you pay for yeah

now more more of these types of companies should be doing more things like this like oh you're not going to tip that's fine good luck getting someone to agree to take your your task yeah and you really shouldn't be able to edit the tip down you should be able to edit it without like tangible proof like no it's like if they went and they picked out all rotten berries and bright you know what I mean right right or like cracked all your eggs right like you should be able to send pictures and you can and you can bring your tip down but like it shouldn't be so easy. No, even like if somebody like gets the wrong thing for me, like I never bring the tip down. Like they still tried.

They still tried. It would have to be like seriously an intentionally horrible experience where it took hours. All my berries had mold on them. They bought the. No, but even if my products were bad bad I would ask for a refund from the store but I wouldn't take someone's tip away like I'm sorry they nobody intentionally goes out of their way to hurt me I'll be a grocery you know the product which they typically do yes yes no people like are really disgusting yeah no this is why we can't have nice things

it is a privilege to order food. Yep. Or groceries. And you have to be prepared to pay the piper. All right. Are you ready for Tear Toasters? I'm really excited about them. I am. Okay. Tear Toasters is our weekly advice segment where we do three submissions.

You can email us, teartoasters at gmail.com, or you can go to our website, thetoastpodcast.com. There's a submission box. They're both totally anonymous. We do three submissions a week. We just try to help the girlies, you know, with what they're going through. And I think today will be no different. Ready? Hey, girlies. I think I did something really bad. Am I the asshole? I created a hinge for my brother without him knowing. He is in a relationship. No one likes the girl, not even my brother. He's too nice and doesn't want to hurt her feelings and break up with her. He's tried a few times, but she cries and he chickens out.

Last year, the girlfriend asked to move in with him to save money on rent. She's also a bartender and he lives closer to where she works. Our parents and friends do not like her personality and they don't think she's very friendly or fun to be around. I made the hinge for him to see if there are any better options out there for him. I'm also hoping one of her friends finds the hinge and it causes a fight between them. I know this is wrong, but my fear of having this girl in my life and family is scarier. Help.

I don't think it's that bad. I mean, he needs to man up, really. You can't. No, I know. Like, grow up. Yeah, like, you can't, like, do everything for him. If he wants to be in a miserable relationship, like, because he's too chicken shit to break up with her, like, then this is what he deserves.

Like, you, people have to make their bed and lie in it, really. Yeah, and like, I'm all for helping people, but like if somebody can't even help themselves, like, okay, but I know it's your brother. Like you would sooner live with a person who like makes you unhappy because you're like, can't break up with them.

Like seriously grow up. Right, you would sooner pay their rent instead of having an uncomfortable conversation. Even though you'd rather live in an uncomfortable life than have an uncomfortable conversation. Grow up. Like, sorry. So I don't really care what you do. If you overstep, if you understep.

Like, he has to figure this out for himself. Yeah. No, I think you would be doing him more of a service by telling him to grow a pair than doing everything for him. But I understand, like, for a sibling, you want to do everything for them. Yeah, and it's like fun. And you could show him, like, girls on hinge that he could be. But he needs to help himself. Like, you can't live his life for him.

I believe it was the great Gracie Lou Freebush who once said people care about people that care about themselves. That's an interesting quote. Yeah no it was uh it she says it at the beginning and it's actually like it was supposed to be emblematic of how far Gracie had fallen from herself like people she was basically saying like you need to take care of like your looks and stuff because people care about people who care about themselves and it was really um and then that little girl she told it to repeated to her at the end of the movie and Gracie's like I don't know about that oh okay so it's like bad advice yeah no it was it was this that quote is kind of the invisible string of the whole film

that really highlights how far Gracie like she fell into pageant culture and she started caring about the wrong thing but I just feel like that makes the movie seem like it's bad I'm not I'm not here for the genesis for the evolution of the quote also it could be spun in a more positive way like people care about people who care about like self-care you know i want to care about someone who has worked on themselves yeah no you could spin the the quote for sure fun so yeah you're not doing anything like crazy wrong because this relationship obviously is moronic however like if you really want to help your brother like you can lead a fish to water you what's you can lead a horse to water you can can lead a horse to water. But you can't make him drink. Right.

Yeah. No, that wasn't really the quote I was saying. The quote I was saying, teach a man. No, no, no. You're right. What's the one with fishing? Yeah, if you buy a man a fish, he'll eat for a day. If you teach a man to fish, he will eat for a lifetime.

But that doesn't apply here. The first one did. No, I think the second one applies better. No. Like you could do all the work for him, like get him the girlfriend, do great. Or you could teach him how to be a normal human being and the whole rest of his life, you won't have to keep doing this for him.

No, you can lead him to water, but you can't make him drink. Claudia. No, I like the fish one. She's doing too much for him and she's not doing the right thing. Sound off in the comments which limerick applies i think my limerick is better for real i hope people see

that i'm telling you trust your instinct no i hope people see that the second one is better for real the second one is a better limerick in general no i think it is a better life lesson, but the first one applies more heavily to this situation. I don't agree. Sound off in the comments. That's a great way to resolve conflict. Sound off in the comments. Yeah. Love you guys so much.

I'm a lonely recent college grad. Listening to you guys makes me feel like I'm with my friends. My boyfriend and I have been together for a while. He's a total p-john. But last night I discovered a red flag. He doesn't like body hair. I'm a very hairy girl and he touched my leg last night and pointed out my leg hair and also the hair in other places I had when we were hooking up the night before. I'm not one of those girls who doesn't shave. This was like after four days of not shaving and my hair just grows fast. The next day I asked him if body hair bothers him and he said yes and I said hypothetically if I stopped shaving he said we would need to have a serious talk this is so off

putting to me it just seems immature that he's turned off by body hair is this a cause for concern or should I just shave more and let it go it is immature and there are some people who are like weird about body hair and then there are also people who are hairy and I just like wouldn't say those two people should be together but I don't think this is something you need to break up over but you don't want to always be feeling self-conscious you don't want to always be having to shave your legs you don't want to have to get laser because your weird boyfriend doesn't like body hair no I mean like leg hair who's even looking at your legs like for him to notice that like he really needs to grow up. Yeah, but he's, like, he's not, he probably won't in any, you know, timely fashion.

And you don't want to always be self-conscious about it. So, I don't know what to tell you. If you really like him, like, conceptually, like, I just don't feel like you should have to shave your leg. I know. By the way, my hair grows fast, too. But then he's always, like, no, but you're not a hairy person. Like, there are people who are hairy, and you're not a hairy person. No, but my hair grows fast. Like, if I need to have if I need to have like hair free legs I gotta shave every few days. For sure but like even when your hair comes in it's

like probably thin and even if you ran your. It's really not. No you're not hairy. You don't know what it's like to be hairy. I mean neither do I. No that's true. But I just know that people've got hairy problems. Yeah and there's a difference of, between being hairy and being someone who embraces hair, which is not something I'm ever going to do. No, no. I mean, if you want this relationship to work and you don't want him always like you don't want to worry what he's thinking about you, like, sure, get lasered. But I just like don't like the idea of getting like cosmetic procedures, not at your own

accord, not like on your own accord, but because of desire, because like someone else is making you feel insecure. Yeah. But then like I would want you to sit down with him and be like listen fuck off yada yada you're being immature but then and maybe he would shut up about it but then like you would get in your head like every time you're with him being like oh my does he's staring at my eyes yeah no it's not good I just feel like you guys have like different values on this one thing and it's like good. I just feel like you guys have like different values on this one thing. And it's like weirdly going to keep coming up.

Yeah. Like he should be with someone else who doesn't like hair. Who's already lasered. Right. Right. Maybe someone with alopecia. Maybe. Because he's so extreme.

Like, okay. No, like this kind of like actually bothers me and I'm gonna say something crazy I think you should break up with him like for real like can you because it's a it's about a bigger thing no I agree so like let's try and find other reasons why the breakup is a good idea you know what I mean like this is just like one small more it can't be just this if the relationship relationship is perfect otherwise, stay with him. But I just know that it's not. No, I know because this is emblematic of larger issues. I'm loving the word emblematic today.

You're emblematic. No, you are. Okay, are you ready for our third and final? A little bit longer. Jackson Turd, I really need your advice. I'm a longtime toaster, first time writer. I'm getting married in September and I have some family drama. My mom and I are incredibly close.

And when we lost my dad three years ago, we really leaned on each other. My mom has now started dating a guy and that alone has been super painful. But as much as I selfishly want my mom to stay home, knit and be alone forever, I do want her to be happy. I know no other man will be a pijam like my dad. So I'm kind of happy that she has someone to spend time with. The issue is my mom's boyfriend of literally three months wants to come to the wedding. I have not yet met this man.

I do not know this man. She has brought it up multiple times that she wants to bring him and feels like she will be, quote, alone at the wedding without him. I want her to have fun and support her dating, but I draw the line at her bringing him. It is already an extremely sad situation with my dad not being able to be there. And adding this man being there will make me too emotional on the day. Be honest with me and let me know if I'm a wench for not letting her bring him. I don't think you're a wench.

You're entitled to your feelings. There's a lot at play here. I would. But I don't think you can see the situation because you're so in it and you're so emotional. So we're going to give you two outside perspectives. I think you should let your mom bring him. Like she wants to have a dancing partner. I think her being alone all night would make her sad and just make her constantly

aware that she lost her husband meanwhile she has a nice man who she gets along with and he can't be there certainly don't have him in pictures he shouldn't be acting like he's you know father of the bride but like she wants someone to have on her arm and I think that that's really fair and it doesn't replace your dad and you know he's no and weddings are like really made for yeah like it's like the dancing and just everything and and it's her daughter's wedding and she'll never feel more acutely aware of her loneliness than if she's alone at your at your wedding like you are getting married like you are moving forward and yeah I think and what she should stay alone because it'll make you feel better there are people like it's, if he brings, if she brings the boyfriend, like

that will make me sad. If she doesn't bring the boyfriend, like that will make her sad. And I'm the type of person that's like, I'd rather shoulder that sadness and deal with it. Like, I'd rather you be happy and me like not get my way. By the way, I don't agree that it like bringing the boyfriend would make the toaster sad. She said it would. Wouldn't the toaster, but wouldn't the toaster be sad seeing her mom be sad and alone? Isn't that more sad?

I would feel and regardless of how you slice it like there will be a gap you know on the day like that your dad he's not going to be there no matter what. At least let your mom have a little bit of joy like she's expressed that she wants him to be there like I think she should have him there. for us that she wants him to be there like I think she should have him there yeah I think absolutely this man needs to come I don't think your feelings are totally valid but you're only really seeing it through your lens of like your experience your dad your wedding this was also your mom's husband think about the person you're marrying like that was it for your mom I think like actually I'll be honestly I'm not trying to be mean I really will be disappointed in you if you don't let your mom bring the boyfriend yeah it's just no matter how you slice it, I'm not trying to be mean. I really will be disappointed in you if you don't let your mom bring the boyfriend.

You have to. Yeah, it's just no matter how you slice it, your dad's not going to be there. I feel like you like need to accept that. And so if there's going to be this person that, you know, is going to spin your mom on the dance floor all night, great. What you'd rather see.

And make her happy. You'd rather see her sitting alone while you're living your best life and on your happiest day of your life. So true. It's so true. I think you need to have a little bit. I feel like this happens with grief sometimes.

Like you're so focused on your own grief that you can't see out of it. And you don't see how like other people like, yeah, he was your dad. But he was your mom's husband, you know. And that's that's about her experience is valid, too. And if this is going to make her feel better, like you have. I'm sorry. You have to. You have to.

Please let me know if you let your mom bring the boyfriend. Oh, and if you've written in to Dear Toasters in the last couple of months, weeks, years, whatever, and we've given you advice and you have an update for us, good, bad, ugly,

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to go to the doctor so if anyone could just like take a look at my ankle Jackie a lot of people think your ankle's broken would I be able to walk if my ankle was broken does it hurt when you walk when I walk specific like it. I'm aware of it. If I turn it in certain ways. You could have just like a very minor fracture. Like in your. Like it doesn't have to be completely shattered. Listen.

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It's swollen. It's a little purple and yellow. Is my ankle broken? Yeah. And she had like. She had snapped it in a grassy field. She like. I twisted my ankle purple and yellow. Is my ankle broken? And she had like, she had snapped it in a grassy field. I twisted my ankle. Yeah.

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