The Toast - Montessori's Revenge: Tuesday, April 2nd, 2024

Episode Date: April 2, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to the Toast and happy Tuesday. I hope everybody's having a gorgeous, beautiful, stunning, and smart day thus far. I know I am because I'm just sitting here in an itchy sweater with my jacks. I hope that everyone is having a great day. You can all pat yourselves on the back because we made it through Monday and we made it through April Fool's Day unscathed. I hope no one got you in such a way that you couldn't recover from. Like you recovered
Starting point is 00:00:26 so quickly. I mean, I did like dream of Kenan and Minka Kelly dating and what joy that would bring Kenan. And that made me happy. And then knowing that wasn't true, that was hard for me to come down from. But maybe what we can do now on April 2nd is manifest these things. A lot of brands like do April Fool's jokes and then they realize that's actually what the people want and it kind of put things into motion so maybe we could put this into motion and the clip went a little viral maybe Keenan will see it maybe Minka will maybe Minka will maybe the uber driver will well we know he will because he and I are super super tight yeah he's he is a toaster now we're just connected through like this time space continuum like it will always come back to me for him and for me
Starting point is 00:01:09 it will always come back to him yeah so we've got a great show today it's Tuesday um we can relax you know let our guards down yesterday I feel like we were very defensive yeah and we didn't know what was what what news was true it was kind know if Tori Spelling is getting divorced. Still don't really care. It was just kind of like an upsetting sort of way to be. Very, you know, unstable. Today we're back to your stable, Garlies. Yeah, even though I had fun in general in the day yesterday. I saw other people were tagging us in pranks that they played on their friends.
Starting point is 00:01:43 And it was just a jolly good time, honestly. Like, I'm glad it's only one day and I'm glad that it's over. But I feel like we made the most of it. Yeah, yeah. I'm glad it's over for sure. But I had a good time. It was all good fun. We recorded the Redheads yesterday.
Starting point is 00:01:56 And that was no joke. Oh, no. It was so good. You guys have to read this month's book by Baby. It weirdly, I wasn't expecting this, was polarizing for the group. the group oh no a line was drawn in the sand oh no team a versus team b who do you think was aligned margo and oh this is hard dana no they're never aligned okay mar, Margo and you? No. Margo and Rhett. Yeah. How did I know? Me and Dana. It was giving Clara and the sun energy. If you know, you know. And if you don't
Starting point is 00:02:34 know, it's never too late. Oh, and now's the time, you guys. It's the year of the Redheads, Redheads generation. Are you saying there's a Redheads, there's going to be a Redheads reheads generation are you saying there's a Redheads there's gonna be a Redheads renaissance there's been a Redheads renaissance there's a Redheads revolution and come to the Redheads party at the Redheads clubhouse you're the special guest of the one and only redheads mouse what do you think oh mickey miska muska miska muska mickey mouse speaking of something disturbing happened to me yesterday i don't know what to make of it you were disturbed i was disturbed tell us i saw a mouse in my backyard question mark mark? Question mark. That's not happened to me yet. What does that mean for my homestead? Can anyone shed light on this?
Starting point is 00:03:33 I know, like, I've never seen a mouse outside. That's so crazy. That's seeing, like, you know, a dog walk on its hind legs or seeing a teacher out of school. No, he was seriously in my backyard. Like, I'm surprised he wasn't on the swing set. Where? Just on the grass a few steps away from when I emerged.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Oh, oh. I feel like that means the call was coming from inside the house. Like, his family's inside. Why was he so close to your house? Or unless you stopped an infestation in its tracks. Like, unless he was on his way to set up camp in your gutters. I have been. Is that where they live? Gutters? I don't know. We up camp in your gutters. I have been. Is that where they live?
Starting point is 00:04:05 I don't know. I'm just actually getting new. We're getting new gutters. I don't know anything about houses like. I don't know either. So without scaring me too much, like, is this just, you know, irrelevant to what's going on inside the home? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:18 I mean, like mouses live outside. I have like that opossum that rolls through. Do mice live outside? That's the question. I've never seen one outside. Or is he going to take shelter? I mean, I see them outside in New York, but that's like if you saw a mouse in your trash, I would say, OK, let's get your bins washed.
Starting point is 00:04:34 But I wouldn't be concerned. Chilling in the grass? Like, I don't know. I don't know. It's weird. It was so weird. I don't want to freak out, but I need to know if I should freak out. And we literally just had the pest guy here.
Starting point is 00:04:47 I feel like, no shade, I feel like he brought him. For sure. And it's like, he's a new pest guy. Like maybe he wants to make himself necessary. Yeah. Dropped one on my backyard. So that I have to call him again. Wow.
Starting point is 00:05:02 That's like kind of crazy. I can't believe you're just telling me this now I feel like this is something you would have like called me about I know I wasn't really by my phone when it happened and I was just trying I'm really I'm trying not to overreact but I need to know like what this means for me and did you freeze in that moment it's so interesting to to experience something like that and then learn something about yourself like how do you react some people freeze some people run some people scream, I was paralyzed with fear. I could not move.
Starting point is 00:05:27 I couldn't speak. Like that. The good news is it's on camera. I can send you a video. Obsessed. I just was like, ooh. Wait, that's so kind of light and airy of you. And then he scurried along.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Bruno was out doing business. Of course he was. Like a businessman. He actually was thinking about going to business school. I said, Bruno, you know everything you need to know. I hear Harvard has a good program. I hear they don't. Wait, also, now I'm very against it, but you know, this situation that we're talking about makes the case for having a cat. But let me just say something. Everyone says that like cats and mice. Why the fuck do I want to
Starting point is 00:06:05 cuddle with an animal that just ate a dirty ass mouse? Like that mouse is in the cat's belly. I'm good. To me, they're both gross. Interesting. Okay. I'm not getting a cat. Like unless the cat can live outside, like no. Well, so that's what Brian has. That's why when I go to Brian's house, I literally can't go near his barn because that's where the cats live and the cats eat the mice. And it's like a good thing. They came with the house when Brian bought them they just like live outside okay I'm not getting a cat but the good news is is that there is a cat that wanders around my home I told you that Bruno invites him over late at night they just kind of like go crazy but no there is a cat like I see it on my cameras all the time so So maybe like he'll take care of business. Maybe the cat got killed and the mice problem that he's been keeping at bay.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Like have you seen the cat in a while? Maybe this is how we find out the neighborhood cat was ran over by a car. I saw a roadkill. It was kind of far away. Like I just saw a roadkill like one time. Like how far from your house? No, it was totally the cat. Like in thinking about what it looked like. Okay okay so here's what you have to do you and some of your neighbors have to go to a shelter and
Starting point is 00:07:10 save a cat and you need to build it like a house outside and leave it food every couple of days cats don't need a lot and he becomes a new neighborhood cat we need a neighborhood cat good thing i'm so close with my neighbors that i'm always talking about oh god first mary orton and now the neighbors like jackie just loves to rub in my face how like many strides she's making socially you know when you first moved down there you were very much like in your newborn and then pregnant era and I feel like you didn't try hard to make friends and I loved it because you needed me you begged me to come down I was kind of the center of your universe and now you're in that post now you're in that like postpartum era where your kids are fine and like
Starting point is 00:07:43 you can do your hair and like you're out going to dinners and lunch and you know you don't need me anymore and you know what fuck you too okay that's your perspective by the way that's reality did I not just lay the house down on exactly what has it gone on no you've misrepresented because of course turdy's always my number one choice means nothing still always begging you to come. Literally was on FaceTime with you. I think I called you, what, six times last night? Yeah, you were kind of being clingy last night. What was going on? Was everything okay at home?
Starting point is 00:08:11 My neighbors were out. No, I missed my girl, and we had a lot to talk about. We had so much to talk about. We were being so funny on FaceTime yesterday. I don't want to rub it in with you guys, because some things that we say on FaceTime, we then regurgitate here to tell you guys. But some of them are just like too. What were we talking about? Give me a clue. I can't I don't know. I don't remember. I just
Starting point is 00:08:31 remember it was funny like Ben was even laughing over overhearing us. Oh yeah I remember making you laugh. Yeah. Your boy. Your boy? Your boy Marsh. Yeah exactly. so yeah that's just like kind of private things we're kind of really private people super super private super private super and other than that what was i doing today oh my god i was kind of being a freak today you know who i'm obsessed with huberman of course and claudia ashley yes you're not gonna guess you might guess okay tinks yes okay i need you to think younger like way younger sabrina carpenter way younger oh my god um young sheldon way younger harry so close who is harry in my mind? Like Harry's doppelganger twin. Come on, you know.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Gates? Yes. Oh, you're on the Gates train. I was stalking Gates Gottschalk this morning, Raven from The Bachelor and her husband. Like their kid is so cute. I don't know why he just like reminds me of Harry because they were born on like the same day or whatever. And Jackie's like both her kids were born like the same day as Raven's kids.
Starting point is 00:09:42 I don't know. I just like I think of Raven's kids as like cousins of your kids. Like for real. And I was stalking Gates this weekend because Raven posted a bunch of stuff. They went to Arkansas and Gates was in Arkansas for Easter. And like he went fishing. He fell asleep in church. Like it was the cutest thing.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Gates did fall asleep at church. I'm obsessed with this kid. Like he's one of the cutest and he just looks like the sweetest boy. It's so true. I, Gates is a great follow. Gates is a great follow. Gates is a great follow. And yeah, he's a very impressive little boy. Yeah. And I feel like he does like big boy things. I feel like we often compare him and like, you know, his progress and his growth and everything to Harry. And like, I'm sorry, Gates is like, so like Gates is so ahead of his time. Gates is going to skip
Starting point is 00:10:22 a grade. No. Yeah. Gates is like very advanced. Like he was walking at six months and it's like, Harry, get up. Get up. Look at Gates. You know what? I'm obsessed with him. Harry actually had a play date with Gates. Harry had an influencer play date when we were in Dallas.
Starting point is 00:10:37 I know. Did you take any pictures of Gates and Harry? Did I see them? Maybe I did. Oh, yeah. I saw Raven's backyard. You said she's making like a commune in her backyard or something. No, I didn't say that.
Starting point is 00:10:47 No, what's the word? Montessori. Oh. I feel like I'm always hearing parents say like Montessori with that stupid stool. They're like, it's the Montessori method. What the fuck is Montessori? Because Montessori is a biblical word, right?
Starting point is 00:11:00 Is it? I thought it's French. But I don't know that. It's so giving like Genesis giving lise to me oh my god to me it's giving like Genesis Exodus um whatever the other books Montessori Deuteronomy and Montessori by the way thank you it's giving Deuteronomy I need to look up what the fuck is Montessori I'll tell you I'll explain it as best as I can even though it evades me a little bit it's like kids playing with toys and things that are useful in real life so they
Starting point is 00:11:33 wouldn't just play with like blobs and stuff that's not real they'll use like a a kid-sized sink and a kid side kid size like cooking stuff so they're learning real skills through their toys and not just like fucking around Montessori is an educational philosophy and practice that fosters rigorous self-motivated growth for children and adolescents in all areas of their development with the goal of nurturing each child's natural desire for knowledge understanding and respect. Okay that literally didn't tell me anything. I think the way I explained it pretty much sums it up they're learning like real skills through their toys. Yeah, a Montessori classroom places an emphasis
Starting point is 00:12:05 on hands-on training and developing real world skills. I need to know the root of the word. Like, root. I'm voting French. Of where, like give me a Merriam-Webster, like etymology of Montessori.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Thank you. Etymology. Okay, NVM, go back. Etymology. Okay. NVM. Go back. Etymology is Deuteronomy. Montessori is Latin. Classic.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Like, aren't all words. So true. Cop out. Give me a word. Any word, and I'll show you it is Greek. Montessori comes from the Greek word sorisia, which means sink. Sink. Okay, I didn't find it, but, like, I'm glad we finally spoke about Montessori.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Because, like, and also, like, Montezuma, Montefiore, like, I just feel confused. Yeah, and I feel like a lot of parents, like, feel pressured by Montessori. It's like, are you doing Montessori? Right. I'm not doing Montessori. I just want to say, like, sure, I have some toys that would fall under the Montessori it's like are you doing Montessori right I'm not doing Montessori I just want to say like sure I have some toys that would fall under the Montessori umbrella great but I also have some like blob things and like kid tings I also like Montessori is also when like
Starting point is 00:13:15 everything in the room or at least the playroom is like kid-sized you know like like a kid-sized house a kid-sized sink a kid-sized kitchen a kid-sized oven size table and chair so like they are kind of feel like grown you know when everything's to scale it's important for kids to know that they're kids like this is not like I don't like that yeah I mean it's just like the flavor of the day right now yeah I see it everywhere I think it definitely has merits like all things but it can't put me in a box and they try they constantly try to put Jax in a box and she says no who put me in this box they would love to put me in a box Claude and they can't put me in a box. And they try. They constantly try to put Jax in a box and she says, no, who put me in this box? They would love to put me in a box, Claude,
Starting point is 00:13:48 and they can't. Your hair's looking so good recently. Thank you because through a myriad of things, like I learned how to do it. You helped me a couple of my fave influencer tutorials. And you're using the Dyson Airwrap, is that correct? I'm using the Dyson Airwrap. Love, love, love.
Starting point is 00:14:04 I got my haircut in Dallas. Love, love, love my haircut in Dallas love love love she's a new woman she's a new woman you want to know what's crazy though and I don't mean to brag I don't but I'm I guess this is like a little bit of a humble brag okay I noticed the last like week or two like I'm getting regrowth strands which are the worst it's worse than hair falling out because they're just like this long and they don't fit into a pony and like they're always like poking out however like I barely noticed the fallout stage the hair fallout oh there was like one week where I was like oh I think my hair is starting to fall out and but you know there are seasons where you shed even if you're not postpartum yeah and it wasn't really bad or anything and I kind of forgot about it and all of a sudden I've got regrowth oh my god you just reminded me of my dream which is beyond uninteresting to hear but I'm going to share it
Starting point is 00:14:47 anyway because like the entire the entire night I was sleeping I was in my dream the entire night waiting for my water to break. Is that crazy? And then what happened? And then I woke up and peed so like maybe that was it. It's giving that was it. Yeah I think it's just kind of like the extent of the meaning you know yeah exciting though yeah very um so we've got a great show we do before we dive in Jax we have five stories today describe them in three words had to trim wow Wow. A blessing. Yep. We were abundant. Maybe the sixth will be for tomorrow. It wasn't, you know, urgent. Oh, I absolutely love that. Okay. So I mean, yeah. Yeah. Without further ado, it is time for the best five stories that you need to know. And Jax, I just want to remind you on that later on in the show, you have something you need to tell the people. I just want
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Starting point is 00:16:17 Let's go surfing. It's like a personality transplant. And Booking.com understands like you are multi-personality and they have a trip for any personality. You can book a remote cabin in the woods. That's where I'm like, oh, I'm so chilly. Give me a cardigan. Let's roast a fire and like make our own chili. That's obviously my personality then. You can explore your adventurous side or you can book a five-star hotel to indulge your luxury side. Oh, also a good option. There are so many possibilities. You know, we're planning our next big trip and I feel like that's, for me, that's going to be like, oh, like summer girl. I'm just a summer girl. Like that's going to be my personality.
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Starting point is 00:19:29 okay get over it like how did you know I was lying I feel like I did such a good job I feel like I did such a good job acting like no literally I was on to you from the moment you said it and then I was like let me wait and see what she's gonna say and I knew it was like meant for me oh you're a bitch you're a dumb fucking bitch I hate you I know you are but what am I a dumb fucking bitch I'm sorry turdy fuck I really wanted to get you back now I'm like embarrassed can we cut that out what's more embarrassing than like trying to trick someone and like they literally like clocked you from the second you started like I'm humiliated i am embarrassed i'm humiliated i'm so like i wish i could take away your shame blame and your
Starting point is 00:20:14 shame blame in the pranking game do i have to be on guard for thee now all the time no i'm done i'm done i'm done i'll stand on guard for thee now all the time? No, I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I'll stand on guard for thee. Yeah, I'm done. Wrap it up. It's like the equivalent of like getting stuffed in basketball. Yeah, like blocked. Like literally. I'm humiliated.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Oh, by the way. I can't. I don't want to talk about it. Like I don't want to talk about it. Like, I don't want to talk about it. No, the thing is, you weren't wrong. I feel like sometimes when we say stuff, like, people don't understand what we're saying. Like, when we said it. Okay, okay, okay. Are we ready?
Starting point is 00:20:56 Ready? No, I need to talk about this. So, I yesterday said that my, I was good, I like, I was doing decently well in my bracket, but I'm not going to win because I had Iowa State winning, and they're out. And people are like, they're not out. The women's is in. Did you guys think I had women in my bracket?
Starting point is 00:21:12 Like, do you know me? I did the men's bracket. The reason why you confused them is because you said, because Caitlyn's on Iowa, goes to Iowa, so I've rooted for Iowa. And if you kept listening, we were talking about the Iowa school juju in general. Like, you voted for the men's
Starting point is 00:21:24 because big things are happening at Iowa. I literally didn't even know that March Madness included women. Okay. It doesn't. No, by the way, it does. It does. There was a game last night. It was LSU versus Iowa.
Starting point is 00:21:38 It was like a big deal. It does. But like I did the men's bracket. They have their own women's bracket? I don't know. Yeah. I think they have like separate, they have separate tournaments. No, they have their separate tournaments.
Starting point is 00:21:49 And I guess you can do a bracket. Like, did you guys seriously think like I was doing that? Have you ever listened to an episode of this show? I'm sorry. Like that was not on you. And I feel the need to like clarify, like for the people who were so utterly confused. Being like, Claudia Claudia they're still in. Okay and? And? That was like really invariating. No I know sometimes like we're so deeply
Starting point is 00:22:16 misunderstood like I want to rage in the comments like responding to everyone but like I'm more mysterious than that. No that's like yesterday my Mary Orton, I saw in her story, like someone messaged her after the toast being like, did you do an April Fool's pregnancy prank? It's like, were you not listening? Oh my God. Reading comprehension is not taught well enough in this school system. I'm done. No, seriously. Listening comprehension comes from reading comprehension. Like that's where you learn how to internalize words. And we need to stop with the algebra. We need to stop with the history. We need to focus on reading comprehension. Like that's where you learn how to internalize words. And we need to stop with the algebra. We need to stop with the history. We need to focus on reading comprehension because you guys, well, not you guys, but like people don't fucking listen. It drives me nuts. Like people will DM me, like, I can't believe you said later. I think I was having, I gave like a,
Starting point is 00:22:59 one of my usual spiels on Ozempic and somebody, and I was talking about the eating disorder community and somebody was like, I can't believe you said people with eating disorders need to stop listening to the toast or something. And I'm like, are you dumb? You don't have an eating disorder. You have a hearing disorder because you didn't fucking listen to me.
Starting point is 00:23:15 It bothers me so much. Like listen. And then if you want to have a problem with what I say, if you actually understand what I said, then you're allowed. But if you start like rage commenting, like, and you didn't even listen, like're so dumb or you misunderstood yeah pay attention please please now we can get to the first story which is very exciting interesting news it is Sabrina Carpenter
Starting point is 00:23:39 is in the new skims campaign so not only have the pictures dropped from the campaign, but also an interview with W Magazine. Sabrina Carpenter wants to shock you. So let's just talk visually. You know, for a couple reasons. One, like she looks great. Two, big moves for Sabrina and Skims. Like great.
Starting point is 00:24:02 The elephant in the room is Taylor Swift connection and now this is like the third time where Skims has done like a major campaign with somebody really connected to Taylor first it was uh Lana Del Rey then it was Brittany Mahomes and I feel like we could have explained that away like with Brittany Mahomes we were like this was probably shot a year ago and she had just become friends with Taylor it was just like an unfortunate coincidence like it was really I think could be explained this Sabrina Sabrina Carpenter thing, like Sabrina Carpenter is at the level now where she can be eligible for a Spritz, a Skims campaign because of the Heiress Tour. So like they saw her on the Heiress Tour and decided to poach her. Like it's,
Starting point is 00:24:39 this one is, we can't explain this one away. Now we need to say like what is going on. But it might just be honestly that like Taylor is so in control of the culture and the zeitgeist and like whoever she's with becomes hot like that it's just sort of a necessary cycle it's like Kim picking piggybacking off like Taylor's setting the trends and Kim chooses the trends hopping on the trends yeah it's just crazy because like Kim used to set the trends. Well, she's still setting the trends by like choosing and make like it's really they're both kind of working hand in hand, though they don't even know it. It's just it's it's too much.
Starting point is 00:25:18 So how do you think it played out? Like, well, also there are, you know, Taylor, know Taylor I mean Taylor Kim is loosely connected to Odell Beckham like I believe that they're dating um and there was like a sports report that Odell Beckham really wants to be traded to the Chiefs that's April Fool's for sure no that was like weeks ago that I mean if you're a football player and he's like really good at what he does it's the best you would want to and if you had a choice of where to go, you would request. You wouldn't be like worried about your rumored girlfriend's feud? No, no, you wouldn't.
Starting point is 00:25:52 No, you wouldn't. Weird. Weird. Couldn't be me. How do I think this played out? Like I do feel in some sense like Kim is a little bit distanced from like the everyday happenings. I don't think Kim is at the point now, I think for a while it was where like Kim was hand selecting every single Skims ambassador, but they have so many campaigns now and so many different collections that I don't
Starting point is 00:26:15 think Kim is, you know, sitting in the meetings being like, let's do this person. And I think that like, that was probably intentional. I think she wants Skims to like stand on its own as a company. And I feel like now it kind of has like, I think of Skims as like a real business, not just like an influencer project from Kim, you know? Yes. And so maybe this is, you know, a strategy in that, you know, where we're hopefully not thinking of Kim when we're thinking of Skims, you know? Well, I just feel like again for Kim, it's like, yeah, why wouldn't I have this girl
Starting point is 00:26:44 that's attached to Taylor? I think Kim has moved on from the drama. It's really about... Well, Kim like again for Kim it's like yeah why wouldn't I have this girl that's attached to Taylor I think Kim has moved on from the drama it's really about yeah it's actually true Kim said that on Watch What Happens Live and he was like is that still a thing she's like no I'm over it it's like well it's good thing you're over it you weren't the one we were worried about yeah and we've said that over and over again so it's not weird that Kim wanted Sabrina but then actually by the way you just cracked it that what it is. Like Kim is so wanting to move on from this Taylor thing. She said it years ago. And so doing things like this is like, look, I've moved on. And the Watched Reppin' Slide commentary, like even sometimes Kim is playing in the background of, Taylor is playing in the background of Kim's Instagram stories when she's on set and they're playing music. Like she has made it very clear,
Starting point is 00:27:22 like this is not a thing. Penelope was spotted wearing Aristore merch like but it's not Kim's thing to move on from like Taylor was the you know the the injured party yeah she's never moving on yeah never she was just talking about them in her time magazine article yep and Kim's just like I'm over it I'm over it it's like girl look up yeah so then my question is so Skims reaches out to Sabrina I'm sure Sabrina ran it by Taylor because Taylor Sabrina's not dumb yeah and she's always like giving credit to Taylor yes and I have to assume that Taylor said it was okay like with Brittany Mahomes I really believed that it was probably it predated their friendship no I believe Brittany ran a pie tailor too.
Starting point is 00:28:08 I believe that her and Brittany weren't even friends when the photo shoot was set. It was like a holiday campaign. They book holiday in the beginning of the year. Like big brands, they have their photo shoots scheduled out all year long. Okay, I'll accept that. Not this though. With this one, no.
Starting point is 00:28:24 Because they're obviously capitalizing on the Aris tour momentum yeah I assume she got it I mean in the W Magazine article it's like every other word is either about Kim or every other word is about Taylor the Aris tour like it's crazy yeah and I feel like this is the first one even though for us it's like the third that sort of blends the two for the people like people are shocked over this considering like I don't know who else aside from maybe Blake Lively that could have a Skims campaign and it would be like so close to Taylor that's different that's different because Blake Lively is like an oh oh oh gee like she has been there through ups downs through like 2010 Sabrina is a relatively new addition this would be
Starting point is 00:29:01 like Blake Lively would be the same as like like, Abigail with the red hair doing skims. No, no, no. Okay, Cara Delevingne. That's a good example. They've been, like, literally so close forever. Yeah, it's the same thing. Yeah. Sabrina would be, like, or Blake Lively would be, like, Haim doing a skims campaign.
Starting point is 00:29:21 Yeah. Or, like, Selena. Yes. A similar to Sabrina. But, like Sabrina Lana Del Rey was her date to the Grammys like that's really close Jackie and she was at the game yeah by the way Taylor's okay with it yeah yeah that's it's just clear like honestly it couldn't get closer to Taylor unless it was Taylor for skims which would literally never happen Taylor would never be in lingerie Taylor for Skims.
Starting point is 00:29:44 Which would literally never happen. Taylor would never be in lingerie. Conservative queen. No. Tortured Poets. Okay, Tortured Poets. They need to come out with a Skim Tortured Poets collab. That's it. That's how the story ends. The thing is Skims is like a billion dollar like multi-billion dollar company and I still don't think
Starting point is 00:30:00 they could afford Taylor. Like Taylor has never been the face of anything. Well she was for Diet Coke which is literally like like the biggest company. And Capital One. Right, those are the types of brands. Those are like 30 times the size of Skims. Like when you think about she's done AT&T, Capital One, Diet Coke,
Starting point is 00:30:18 literally the biggest brands in the entire world, not even just America. I feel like that's a... I'm just saying that would be a nice way for this story to end but if there were ever a time it's not now Taylor is literally like on the it's not the time she's all the way up her socks never been higher I wouldn't say the same for Kim at the moment she's just kind of like stagnant yeah but they come in waves I feel like they know like people want them and like in doses yes. I feel like they know, like, people want them in, like, in doses.
Starting point is 00:30:50 Yes, and we had, like, two years of crazy Kardashian obsession. Also, I don't think that, like, if they ever were to end this feud, like, it being Taylor for Skims, like, that's too much for Kim. Like, that's, Kim gets everything then, you know? It's like, Taylor gets attention. If it's Tori Kim Poets for Skims? No, it's still, like like that's a skims win. And like you said, Taylor's the injured party.
Starting point is 00:31:07 Oh, my God. I just saw like something move. OK, it's like a piece of dust. I'm like, oh, my God, there's a mouse in here. You got me going crazy. Yeah, it would be too much. Like it wouldn't be weighed evenly. I think. It's never happening.
Starting point is 00:31:23 No, like we can we can dilly dally all day, hypothesizing and fantasizing, but it's never happening. No, like we can dilly dally all day hypothesizing and fantasizing, but it's not happening. But if Taylor like woke up one day, like and she had to, I don't know, maybe she's like going through therapy and she has to release her old grudges
Starting point is 00:31:35 if she wants to move forward and break through, whatever. And she has to move on with Kim. Yeah. The way that they would announce a reconciliation is Taylor first Kim's. I don't think so. Like at it would break the internet it would but I don't think they would do it I don't think Taylor would do it Kim would do it in a second I also don't think that like let's
Starting point is 00:31:54 say Taylor was going through therapy and needed to forgive her past whatever I think she would make up with Kim in private like we would never know about it like I don't think she wants to give more air to this you know even though she talks about it a lot yeah she does I don't think she wants to give more air to this, you know? Even though she talks about it a lot. Yeah, she does. I don't know. I don't know either. Like some, and you know what? I know what I like about Taylor. Like sometimes people in your life wrong you and like a therapist would tell you to let it go.
Starting point is 00:32:15 And sometimes you just can't. And that's okay. Yeah, but I feel like, I feel like the times when I see that people have to let it go is on reality shows. But that's because you're around the person all the time like I wonder what a therapist thinks about you like being done with a person and just cutting them I think they're fine with that I think they would say that's actually healthy I think to have like a negative person in your orbit it ultimately harms you therefore you have to let it go if you're going to be around them okay Jackie Astray PhD yeah I saw that on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.
Starting point is 00:32:46 I went to the school of Rehobo. Where I get all my mental health tips. And Vanderpump rules. Literally. Okay, ready for our next story? I am. Beyonce won a big award at the iHeartRadio Music Awards last night, which were last night. She thanked her rock Jay-z and their three beautiful children in
Starting point is 00:33:05 her speech so in a surprise to everyone beyonce attended the i heart radio music awards at the dolby theater in la last night this is so crazy yeah but these are the things you do when you have a new album you play the game these are not the things you do in your beyonce but this is what taylor and beyonce like always do they go to things that they're too good for um and they're obviously like pre-arranged so that and that's why too good for. And they're obviously like prearranged so that, and that's why like Taylor and Beyonce are like the most awarded women of all time. Because like Taylor's over here
Starting point is 00:33:30 at the People's Choice Awards. Beyonce's over here at the iHeartRadio Awards. Awards that mean nothing, that have no value, that literally four people watch. But it's a part of like the game. It's a part of the game. It's a comfortable setting when you know that everyone there is just so happy for you to be there,
Starting point is 00:33:44 that you're going to win, that you can sit wherever you want, that you'll get your picture taken, you'll wear it. Like it's a comfortable setting when you know that everyone there is just so happy for you to be there that you're gonna win that you can sit wherever you want that you'll get your picture taken you'll wear it like it's just a press move it's more and you're not like in the album the people you're in competition with like aren't there yeah it's like one big person goes to these awards like it's like they have a pre-arranged thing with all the publicists it's like okay Beyonce gets iHeart Taylor gets Billboard well. Well, it's not even gets. It's like Beyonce will go to this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But like Beyonce and Taylor have never been at a crappy ass award show together.
Starting point is 00:34:10 Right, but that's because the next crappy one, like Taylor will go to for tortured dead pets. Yes, exactly. Exactly. And Beyonce will be done with her promotional cycle like this where she's going so hard. But like she needed to step out. Cowboy Carter.
Starting point is 00:34:26 And I love the looks. From head to toe. She needed to be like in the new. You know that's what you do. Even though you're Beyonce and you're Taylor. Like you still got to do marketing. Play the game. Marketing.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Yeah. Oh and then also iHeartRadio is the game because it is the radio. Radio. That's like one you have to go kiss ass. Like the iHeartRadio awards like are literally viewed by 11 people but it's put on by iHeartRadio and they're in charge of like DJ radio and like getting your song played on the radio and that has a lot to do with going number one that has a lot to do with winning awards real awards so you have to like kiss the ass of this moronic company um it's a part of the game now I do love Beyonce stepping out I'm not upset at all because the vibes for this album press tour are very country very stagecoach obsessed like when she was on the
Starting point is 00:35:10 red carpet she was doing finger guns she was like I'm obsessed yeah really cute she said in her speech um she thanked her family she took a moment to shout out the innovators who paved the way for her illustrious career including Stevie Wonder who presented her with the trophy she said thank you to Rosetta Tharp, Miss Tracy Chapman, Linda Martell, Prince, Stevie Wonder, Andre 3000, Tina Turner, Michael Jackson and so many more who defied any label placed upon them. Also wait what was I gonna say crap it was a good point. Were you stuck yeah like. Oh, I love Beyonce with blonde hair. Like it's like one of my favorite looks. However, somebody on Twitter pointed out that when she has blonde hair, she looks like Karen Huger.
Starting point is 00:35:51 And seriously, they're twins. Even though on their face, like Beyonce's face and Karen Huger's face could not be more different. Something about the blonde hair. Twins. Yeah. I see it. I love it.
Starting point is 00:36:02 You see it. Yeah. No, she looks great. It was a great night. She looks great. Great night for music. I didn't watch, but I assume it. You see it? Yeah. No she looks great. It was a great night. She looks great. Great night for music. I didn't watch but I assume it was
Starting point is 00:36:08 a great night for music. You did? No. April Fool's? That wasn't April Fool's. That was just classic Jackson Claude banter. Low key classic.
Starting point is 00:36:22 Now I want to make a comment because you get a lot of backlash for always drinking your coffee out of a disposable cup. And today you're drinking it, sustainable queen, reusable cup. The glass and the ice are clanking so much it's going to bother the fuck out of the podcasters. Go back to killing the turtles tomorrow, please. Happily, first of all. Podcast audio, greater than important. Second of all, that's funny coming from you jacuzzi because people have been saying that you're chewing on camera you're slurping on camera you're sneezing
Starting point is 00:36:51 and they're saying nobody's accused me of sneezing stop lying bitch here this is what people said people said because i've been starting to drink iced coffee on the the podcast and they said it was really annoying them the slushing of my ice jackie i have not drank pod i have not drank podcast i have not drank iced coffee in weeks I just have my protein shake and you'll notice every time I take a sip I go like this because people said my gulping was annoying them too so I'm listening and learning I have just seen a lot of comments about like your side of the noise I haven't seen one about mine no no so I'm fixing it I'm listening and learning and I'm telling it I'm listening and learning
Starting point is 00:37:25 and I'm telling you today it's annoying as hell but I use these cups sometimes I've never heard that I literally hear it I hear it too it's a nice sound I don't think they're gonna like it sound off in the comments it's giving I can hear the bells don't you hear them chime my dream like especially when I was overweight like my dream in this life was to play Tracy Turnblad in some sort of live action whatever I wouldn't need to learn like I know everything like I've memorized Nikki Blonsley is a true hero of mine and the fact that I'm now ineligible for the role because I've lost weight like is is definitely part of the reason I was hesitant to start the drug would you gain weight for the role let me tell you I wouldn't gain weight for anything like I have been to the mountain and back I know how hard it is I would never purposely gain weight like unless I was of course like having a child but you wouldn't
Starting point is 00:38:20 there's no role on this earth no No. That you would gain weight for. No, like my health, what I've learned over the last like year or two, I guess it's been like two years now. My health is paramount and I wouldn't, you know, no matter how thirsty I am, I wouldn't give that up for anything. Beautiful. For real. And like, let's be real. There's like one role you're eligible for as a bigger person.
Starting point is 00:38:43 There's a million roles they'll cast you in if you're skinny sometimes I feel as though that's the prerequisite yeah so for my career it's better to be staying up well you just said a mouthful there sister actually I just saw this rant Busy Phillips went on and you know I'm not a Busy Phillips girl it was the most amazing rant someone someone brought up Ozempic at like this event she did and she just went off. And I loved it. I forget like what the whole hypothesis of it was, but I just found myself like nodding. I'm like, yes, Busy Phillips. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:39:13 I want to see. Oh, no. She was basically like, you know, the men in this industry take human growth home. And that's how they're always at 60, like so hot. And everyone's like, wow, how are these men so hot? And they keep getting roles like for superheroes. And it's like, okay, now women are taking Ozempic to like stay thin and you know keep jobs and everyone's coming at us for it like leave us alone and she's like and the world is just such
Starting point is 00:39:33 a different place when you're skinny versus when you're fat people treat you differently you have different work opportunities everything is just better for you when you're thinner and that's the world we live in so now there's something to help us with that and we're still getting yelled at for it it was really I loved it that's nice yeah next story someone else who has something to say Shakira has eight months later given her thoughts on the Barbie movie Shakira says her tween sons absolutely hated the Barbie movie so she told Allure in her April 2024 cover story that her sons absolutely hated the Barbie movie because they found it emasculating. And she said that she. How old are her sons?
Starting point is 00:40:10 Eleven and nine. And they know what emasculating is and feels like? That's a good question. Maybe they said it in their version and she's summing it up. Paraphrasing. She said she agrees to a certain extent because she wants them to feel as empowered as she does she said quote i'm raising two boys i want them to feel powerful too while respecting women i like pop culture when it attempts to empower women without robbing men of their possibility to be men
Starting point is 00:40:35 to also protect and provide she clarified that men and women complement each other by serving different purposes quote i believe in giving women all the tools and the trust that we can do it all without losing our essence without losing our femininity I think that men have a purpose in society and women have another purpose as well we complement each other and that compliment should not be lost okay like I actually like agree with some of her points but I don't know what the fuck this has to do with the Barbie movie and just girl, the Barbie movie came out a year ago. Like, not the time. And I also find like her nine-year-old son feeling emasculated. Like, I'm not buying any of it.
Starting point is 00:41:12 But like the latter point of what she's saying, it's like men and women are different. And like women are beautiful and powerful and men are important too. Like, yeah, we're all important. Like, I like that message. But I'm not understanding like the nine and 11-year-old son in the Barbie movie part of it, you know? Yeah, well, I think otherwise why is she just saying men are important too? If not for like... Yeah and 11 year old son and the Barbie movie part of it, you know? Yeah. Well, I think otherwise, why is she just saying men are important too? If not for like,
Starting point is 00:41:28 she needed, she needed a reason. Yeah. She's just sharing her thoughts. I actually think that that's a really good take on the movie. And I think in some ways it's a version of what we were saying, which is like, women are all powerful and great and should be lifted up.
Starting point is 00:41:39 And that was, but like not, we want to be equal, right? Like, right. Just, it goes from this to this that's not
Starting point is 00:41:47 equality either yeah I um there was like a lot pulled from this um interview that Shakira did I saw something else today that I was like okay and like she was just kind of like saying stuff like hold on Eve the story of Eve and Adam and Eve. Yeah. Is she okay? Like, I honestly, like, I felt like this article was like really bizarre. Let me read exactly what she said. Yeah. I read this thing about Eve and I'm like, okay, Bible. Sure. About how the story of Eve was like created to like keep women down.
Starting point is 00:42:18 Eve was a story created by misogynists. Okay. Well, Eve was like created by like God. So I'm cracking up. Eve was a story created by misogynists to put women in a little box
Starting point is 00:42:30 where we have to remain silent, not speak our minds and not be a catalyst for change to keep things as they are. I think there's something refreshing about women when they get to be themselves
Starting point is 00:42:38 and be unapologetic because we've had to apologize so many damn times in the past. So like, I don't know, this article, like she's just all over the place because this is giving you can't put her in a box honestly because it's giving the
Starting point is 00:42:49 antithesis this is giving like barbie movie energy yes yes no so i was gonna say it's giving america ferreira's monologue and barbie i like the honesty i disagree with that point like I don't see even that way but right I go off queen the thing about Shakira is that she can't be silenced no no she really can't I wonder what she's got going on right now that she's like saying so much stuff gearing up yes she's gearing up she also did this like performance inside a billboard time a time square and billboard like the billboard opened up and like Shakira came out on top of this building. It was kind of wild. Was it good? And the Shakira stands were like screaming below.
Starting point is 00:43:29 Okay. Oh baby when you talk like that. Actually I can do a really good Shakira impersonation. I haven't done it in a while. That wasn't it. Okay do it. I haven't done it in so long.
Starting point is 00:43:37 I need to take my headphones out. Hold on okay. I'm not going to be really embarrassed if this is bad. Because like at camp it used to be like my thing. I was doing it in the talent show. Damn I really wish I practiced. I'm like about between this really embarrassed if this is bad. Because like at camp it used to be like my thing. Like I was doing it in the talent show.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Okay. Damn, I really wish I practiced. I'm like about between this and the Amber Heard prank, like I'm going to be humiliated today. Okay. Whenever, wherever we're meant to be together, I'll be there and you'll be here. And that's the deal, my dear.
Starting point is 00:44:01 Okay, that was good. That was good. Very, very good. I would say, though, it was giving like Celine Dion a little bit in a good way. You know what? I actually feel that. I do. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:44:13 But goals. Goals, yeah. Thank you. Very good. Thank you very much. Thanks. Are you ready for our next story? What number?
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Starting point is 00:48:11 An Instacart representative said in a statement to People, We were deeply saddened and disturbed to hear about this incident. We have no tolerance for violence of any kind. And the shopper account was immediately suspended from our platform. We have been in direct contact with the customer and are cooperating with law enforcement on their investigation harmonics holy fuck she explained that authorities let the driver go because he claimed self-defense adding that he did not have a scratch or a bite on him nor were his pants torn so he said the dog attacked him so he shot the dog there's no he just had a gun doing deliveries and you just have to like shoot a dog even though he attacked you even
Starting point is 00:48:45 though there's no physical signs right even if he like came over to you it wasn't like a rabid attack oh my god first of all I follow Angie Harmon on Instagram I didn't even know this this is literally the saddest thing ever and like I just feel like every day I wake up and like somebody else is like going through something it's like a new thing I have to worry about like I never thought you know walking in New York you have to get punched in the face if you're on your phone. Like what has the world come to where everyone's mentally ill and everybody's doing insane things? Like the list of things I have to worry about every day,
Starting point is 00:49:12 it just keeps going up. It's so true. She also said he was shopping under a woman's identity named Merle. So not even under his own profile. This is what? Like if, this is so fishy. Because like if there was a real case where like the dog attacked and like, you know, Angie heard and he was screaming and he shot, like if there was proof that would have been
Starting point is 00:49:30 just like really unfortunate, but like I wouldn't have blamed the guy like for, you know, he's getting attacked by a dog, but there's no proof of that. He's under an alias. He's like lying about his identity. There's weird things going on here. And I believe Angie and I'm really upset. Yeah. I hope that they properly investigate this I guess with no footage it's he said she said this is so tragic
Starting point is 00:49:52 and yeah just another thing to worry about what in the world what in the world like Rosaline Isles Queen yeah yeah. Yeah, actually, not to be so annoying, I actually know Angie Harmon. I do. How? We met once and we like became like kind of, we just like connected. And now we like talk all the time on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:50:13 I could see it. Well, you should reach out to her. That's why when you were reading the story, I just sent her a DM. I was like, oh my God, I'm so sorry about Oliver. Like that's literally like, I would die. Yeah. Insane, insane, horrible story.
Starting point is 00:50:24 I tried to tell you. Horrible? you did i when you said like crazy i was like oh wait what conjoined twins got married next you know yeah yeah yeah that's where my head goes well our fifth and final story is some good news to end on some good biz news celeb biz news gbcn yes gcbn gcBN. Taylor Swift is declared a billionaire by Forbes as she joins the list for the first time following her era's tour success. Oh my God, I didn't even know this. I knew it was like coming up. According to Forbes, Taylor Swift has officially reached billionaire status.
Starting point is 00:50:59 On Tuesday, Forbes released their 2024 billionaire list and Taylor climbed to 14th place with a 1.1 billion dollar fortune following her era's tour success they also listed the world's richest people in order um Bernard I love this these are my absolute favorite yeah we get to do it like once a year once a year okay no because they do like four lists but yeah they do like celebrity the world celebrity billionaires well back to Taylor just really quickly I want to say it's beyond impressive like obviously being like a female billionaire we were talking about this I feel like last year on the shows there is literally like no female billionaires and the ones that are
Starting point is 00:51:36 are like either widows or heiresses who inherited from their fathers or husbands or divorcees so like there were I think there was like one or I don't even know if there was one on the list who was a self-made billionaire the fact that Taylor is like a female billionaire super super impressive but also the fact that she's one of the only people one of the only musicians to be a billionaire exclusively through music like Rihanna's a billionaire but not really through her music through Fenty Jay-Z is a billionaire through his you know very lucrative businesses he has a bunch and not really through his music Taylor is like the only one who really has never veered into anything other than music and that's really impressive yeah it is really impressive
Starting point is 00:52:13 there's actually a good amount of women on the list of celebrity billionaires well Kim yeah so number one celebrity billionaire let me think you're not gonna guess oh really because we're not considering like elon a celebrity no no we'll get to him i don't know get to him who george lucas the star wars director okay like celebrity it's obviously playing fast and loose with the word number two who is literally the same type as George Lucas, and you would say he's a celebrity. So it's just about like thirst level. James Cameron.
Starting point is 00:52:50 Who? James Cameron. No, but keep going. I literally don't know any directors. Steven Spielberg? Yeah. Really? Yeah, would you say he's a celebrity?
Starting point is 00:53:03 Yeah. Yeah, I would. Number three, sports. yeah would you say he's a celebrity yeah yeah i would number three sports lebron michael jordan class i can't help but think of larsa like that's really good news for larsa it is it's good brand association for woman all right just read them i'm tired of guessing i was having fun i feel like we were doing good we're like it's always more fun to be the person like yes yes than the person guessing okay okay number four number four oprah wait i'm sorry can you give these numbers oh yeah i'll start
Starting point is 00:53:38 from the top george lucas 5.5 billion see he sold his production company Lucasfilm to Disney for $4 billion. Got it. Number two, Steven Spielberg, 4.8 billion. That's insane. Number three, Michael Jordan, 3.2 billion. Damn. Number four, Oprah Winfrey, 2.8 billion. Billion, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:01 Number five, Jay-Z, 2.5 billion. Billion. Number six, Kim Kardashianian 1.7 billion super impressive i'm sorry like that's really yeah to go from you know skinny t yeah to billionaire i'm sorry it's literally one of the most impressive things on the planet and she keeps going up like i feel like like. Because Skims is really. And I feel like it took her a long time to like find her thing. She was doing a bunch of things like Kimoji and that weren't like working. And Skims.
Starting point is 00:54:33 And it's so funny when you think about how Skims started out. Kimono. Yeah. And like really rocky. They just kill it. Their products are amazing. It's the best shit I've ever worn. Like I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:54:44 It is. Her Skims was valued at $4 billion in a 2023 funding round. It's insane. Yeah. And it's worth it. Number seven, Peter Jackson, $1.5 billion. He's the director behind Lord of the Rings and The Hobbits. Okay, I'm learning like being a movie director is kind of everything.
Starting point is 00:55:02 And I need to be a- Number eight, Tyler Perry, $1.4 billion. I love, I have like a I need to be a number eight Tyler Perry 1.4 billion I love I have like a lot of love in my heart for Tyler Perry yeah number nine Rihanna 1.4 billion so they're tied they're eight they're both tied at eight technically number 10 Tiger Woods 1.3 billion I feel like that makes sense like golf is like one of the most lucrative sports because like you're not on a team it's just you and there's literally there's three like there's a lot of famous golfers but there's three whose names we know think about how many basketball players names we know football there's tiger woods there's rory mcelroy and there's phil Mickelson like that's it yeah it's kind of like who's that like one who
Starting point is 00:55:46 drinks Diet Coke come again Ben's favorite golfer with a d he has a lot with a what on daily oh that's not Ben's favorite golfer but like Ben relates to him in like a physical sense Ben's favorite because he's like yeah yeah yeah 11 LeB james 1.2 billion brilliant brilliant number 12 magic johnson 1.2 billion but they're tied number three also tied at 1.2 billion dick wolf you're lying i mean makes sense like literally makes sense created the greatest thing alive you should be a billionaire and then number 14 but i guess they went up to 14 because of all the ties. 1.1 billion. Taylor Swift emerges on the list. And it'll be interesting to watch her climb up the list.
Starting point is 00:56:31 Like Kim has been climbing up the list. I feel like Jay-Z's been in like the top five forever. You know? Yeah. But I think Taylor's going to give them all a run for their money. I think so too. But I just want to say like no shade to anyone else on this list. I'm sure everyone's like working really hard.
Starting point is 00:56:43 I feel like Taylor is working harder than all of them yeah well she's also just like in our faces more like she literally she made this list because of doing Error Store which is like three hours non-stop and she's been working for so long like how many albums did she drop in the last three years like it's she's working so hard but also I think that is like the phrase money talk talks wealth whispers like people who are super super wealthy like they're not in your face you know you don't know they're just like you know moving in silence I think also it's like a lot of these people have mailbox money yeah I don't aside from you know the money she makes from her music which never really made her a billionaire yet like because you said she doesn't have those businesses that's why I feel
Starting point is 00:57:24 like she works harder than everyone because when you set up a business it's hard at first but then eventually like it all comes in that's why it's like really impossible to become a billionaire via music because you have to work so hard for so long and you always as an any career you have like a peak of a couple of years where you're like big and hot but nobody nobody stays this hot forever. And that's what's so impressive about Taylor's career is like, you know, she's winning album of the year when she's 16 and when she's 32, like nobody has 17 years of like peakdom. Yeah. Why doesn't she start a business? I don't know. I mean, Selena Gomez is a billionaire and like she does the least when it comes to like music and, and, you know, being a celebrity, she just like really comes to like music and and you know being a
Starting point is 00:58:06 celebrity she just like really works on rare beauty and it's made her a billionaire but what what would Taylor's be first of all Taylor could come out with a beauty line and it would be successful her her makeup is iconic and she would promote it really well that's a no-brainer yeah yeah but what else? She would have to like position herself because she could come out with a line of like homeware, like kitchenware. She's always cooking. I would have to do more content like that, but that would be easy for her.
Starting point is 00:58:41 And I don't think there's like enough money in this like type of business. But like if she did like a, I don't even know what the right word is, kind of like papyrus, like notebooks, pens, stationary, very paper source vibes. She's so paper source. Journals, exactly. Planners, cute notebooks, inspirational phrases. Cards, like not Hallmark cards, you know.
Starting point is 00:59:01 Yes, like stationary. She's like a, I feel like her like her lyrics become like like a paper company a paper company does that make sense claudia paper company paper goods and it would be called it would be called like tailored i mean if we had anything to say about it no i'm not tailored tailored t-a-i-l-o-r-e. I like Taylor. Of course you do. Yeah, so it is shocking. Because even, like, of course, you know, when you think of Taylor, you think of Beyonce. Beyonce's done quite a few businesses.
Starting point is 00:59:32 Ivy Park. We reported recently she was doing a hair care company. Tidal is, like, her and Jay-Z's thing. Like, she's into it. Yeah. Or I also could see Taylor starting her own record label. Because that's a big passion of hers. Like redesigning the music industry.
Starting point is 00:59:49 And she's made enormous changes for herself and other artists through like her work with the labels. And her work with she got Apple Music to pay everyone more. But if she started her own label. And then like Sabrina Carpenter was one of her. She should do that. Yeah. Things she should do. Because then you
Starting point is 01:00:06 become as big as universal that's a billion dollar company yeah and she would then have like stake in all the people that she's promoting yeah no like why hasn't she done that yeah I was surprised when she left but when she left that's why like the whole Taylor Swift, Scott Borchetta, Scooter thing was such a, was such a bad time for Taylor. Because I think if you look at the arc of Taylor's career, she's never really had a flop era. But I think before and during Lover was this lull for her where she wasn't as popular as she has been or she was going to become. And she was like up for renegotiations and they said, you know, youotiations and they said you know you release one you buy one you release when you buy one or you can go somewhere else and leave it all here
Starting point is 01:00:48 and that's what she did and I feel like if she was where she was at now and her record label deal was up she would start her own label yeah so lover was the first post big machine album yeah but are there so and so the songs on there aren't about the big machine breakup because they were kind of done yeah previously yeah so then the next album like the folklore evermore's are more about scooter my tears ricochet yeah okay okay no she's gonna start her own record label turdy called it i know i think it's like i would love her paper company and she would have like a lifelong customer in me that's i think more down the line like that's like a retirement job i would love that me too okay oh that's all the stories oh but then the other part of the list
Starting point is 01:01:37 was just world's richest people period hit me number one bernard all nalt with 230. LVMH. LVMH, 233 billion. You're lying. No. 233 billion? Yeah. Wait, that's so much money. That's insane. Give me one.
Starting point is 01:01:53 Give me one. One. Number two, it's your boy Elon, 195 billion. So crazy. I don't know why I thought like the richest people, like maybe max out like a hundred billion. I didn't know we were nearing 300. I feel like it keeps going up.
Starting point is 01:02:11 Yeah. Well that's if you're doing a job. Yeah. Number three, Jeff Bezos at 194 billion. So I feel like him and Elon, like just go back and forth depending on the day. Yes.
Starting point is 01:02:22 The fact that they're a billion apart. Like how do you even know that? I guess because of the stock values exactly how you know it but still number four Mark Zuckerberg 177 billion well number five Larry Ellison 141 billion what does he do Oracle question mark feels all right six, Warren Buffett, $133 billion. Kind of slacking. Okay. Like Warren Buffett. Let's just dive into that for a second. Okay. Question mark for me. Like I know Warren Buffett, like Warren Buffett, Warren Buffett, like, oh, his stock tips. Warren Buffett says this, Warren Buffett says that. Like finance bros, like they have a picture of Warren Buffett like above their beds. Yeah. And I'm I believe Berkshire Hathaway.
Starting point is 01:03:10 That's him. He started that. And what does he look like? I kind of like not knowing. He kind of looks like what you think he would look like. Let me see because I feel like he looks like Warren Beatty. That old guy who messed up the Oscars thing. Yeah it's like Warren Beatty would play him in a movie but doesn't really look like him no by the way twins that's exact oh by the way he's much older than 90 he's 93 yeah this also has ages which is interesting elon's the youngest on this list go go go each that's because he's also like wait he's younger than mark yuckerberg oh i'm No, I skipped over the yuck. Yuck is 39.
Starting point is 01:03:46 Elon's 52. Jeff Bezos is 60. He just had his big party. Jeff Bezos is 60? Yeah. What did you think he was? I don't know. He kind of acts like a teenager.
Starting point is 01:03:56 In love. Like running around on his boat with his girlfriend. Yeah. I don't know why I thought he was like max 45. I don't know. That's just what I thought. No. 60.
Starting point is 01:04:03 Okay. And then number seven, Bill Gates, 128 billion. Like, literally how? Microsoft? I feel like nobody's had a Microsoft computer since 1999. I don't know. I have like a theory about Bill Gates. He also has like a lot of other stuff that he does now.
Starting point is 01:04:18 Like, he bought up like a lot of farmland. Well, yeah. People are upset about that. He bought up all the farmland in this country. Yeah. He bought up. I think he's the largest owner of farmland. Land well yeah people are upset about that he bought up all the farmland in this country yeah he bought I think he's the largest owner of farmland landowner in the country he's like making like it's weird I don't know he has a lot of experiments going on I think he's making some sort of like synthetic breast milk I don't know I kind of hate I kind of hate Bill Gates I feel like he's always been so rich.
Starting point is 01:04:45 And I remember like, I'm sure he should be rich like from Microsoft. But like, my God, Microsoft, like if anybody has a Microsoft computer, you're like, oh my God, get a job. Like it's just, Microsoft is not it. Yeah, he invested in lab produced breast milk. He gives me freaky energy. I think he gives everyone freaky energy. Like it's hard to talk about bill gates and not like fall down a rabbit hole plus because he was on a lot of manifests from epstein's
Starting point is 01:05:11 island like he's a freak he's a freak freaky deaky and then like him and melinda who everyone were like oh my god couple goals then they like broke up it's like what the hell happened i don't know i just got weird vibes for him what does does Melinda know? What does Melinda know? Number eight, Steve Ballmer, 121 billion. I don't know. Did we ever find out? Remember we had that news story like two years ago that the IRS like released a notice that one of the world's wealthiest people
Starting point is 01:05:39 had passed away. They didn't release a notice. People like were tracking IRS incoming earnings, and there was a huge sum, which really could have only been from a billionaire dying and the inheritance tax. And no, I never heard anything about it again. That was the fun story.
Starting point is 01:05:58 That was a little fun investigation. Yeah. Who's Steve Ballmer? You tell me. You have the list the list yeah but they didn't say who steve ballmer is so maybe he's like family money i'll google him it's worth a quick google ballmer i like saying ballmer i like saying his name oh he's a ceo of microsoft jackie i'm telling you there is something up with microsoft like i don don't believe it. What else does Microsoft own? Yeah, because they were like in talks to buy TikTok.
Starting point is 01:06:28 Like, how can you afford that? Right, when your CEO is a billionaire. I don't know. I'm not buying it. What does Microsoft own? LinkedIn? Irrelevant. Okay, like.
Starting point is 01:06:41 Yeah, like a bunch of loser-y-ass early 2000s tech companies. Yeah, Comcast. 11.5% of Comcast. okay like yeah like a bunch of losery asked early 2000s tech companies yeah comcast 11.5 percent of comcast oh okay i don't want to fall down this rabbit hole i won't be able to come back up nine mukesh ambani 116 billion on my way to search what mr ambani does oh by the way i believe that is the guy. Is he Indian? They just had the wedding where Rihanna performed. It was his son.
Starting point is 01:07:11 Do they do textiles? What do they do? They does. They does. He runs Reliance Industries, which has interest in petrochemicals, oil and gas, telecom, retail. Okay, but it kind of can be everything.
Starting point is 01:07:23 Maybe they do have textiles. Everyone was just talking about this family on my tiktok because it was this huge wedding so many celebrities were there Ivanka Trump was there I think Kim was there Rihanna was there it was like kind of crazy yeah no not Beyonce yeah no I saw the wedding the wedding made it to reels don't worry yeah okay good good good the wedding made everywhere and the number 10 is Larry Page Google Google and he's 51 okay so he's also younger than elon that's so crazy like him and elon have beef do they yeah you remember larry page called him a speciesist a what speciesist like prejudiced against other species because elon doesn't think that artificial intelligence should be able to be as smart or smarter than us oh i'm a speciesist
Starting point is 01:08:03 because i think like, you know, dogs are dumb. Like I'm smart. And he was talking about like robots shouldn't be able to like, they should cap their intelligence. By the way, the fact that like the word species exists, like ageist, speciesist, racist,
Starting point is 01:08:16 like we have gone too far and people in tech are truly mentally ill. Yeah, no, that's insane. So that's really what I know about Ari Page and it's going to be a no from me, dog. It's going to be a no from me. Well, I didn't know today was going to be the day where we did the list. It's my favorite day.
Starting point is 01:08:33 And we love our lists, but that's the best one. And we love our billionaires. And we hope to be one one day. Who's your favorite and least favorite billionaire on the list? Oh, such a good question. Well, probably my favorite now would be Taylor. tailored okay but are you talking about like business people yeah we have to do keep the conversations apart because also there are probably like a hundred people in between the celebrities yeah let's do celebrities and their measly bill and the two my favorite real
Starting point is 01:08:58 billionaire is the arnold guy like i just to be of course you're last you know yeah yeah and of course like he owns everything cool. Louis Vuitton, Moet, Hennessy, like that's the coolest company, LVMH. They own all the designer brands,
Starting point is 01:09:11 liquor brands, like goals. My least favorite would definitely be Mark Zuckerberg. Yeah. Zuckerberg. And like as a Jew representing us on the list, like he doesn't speak for us. No.
Starting point is 01:09:21 No, he doesn't. That little, you know, yucky Zuckerberg. Who's your favorite? I mean, we know your favorite for us. No. No he doesn't. That little you know. Yucky Yuckerberg. Who's your favorite? I mean we know your favorite is Elon. Period.
Starting point is 01:09:30 Least? Yuck. The yuck. The yuckinator. And like I said Jackie and I hope to be billionaires one day. So don't forget to listen to this podcast. Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Stream it while you're sleeping.
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