The Toast - Naggy Bitch Wives: Wednesday, March 15th, 2023
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Good morning, Millennials!
Welcome back to The Toast.
Happy Wednest Day, a gorgeous day here at The Toast,
because it's Hump Day.
You're halfway through the week.
How should we celebrate?
Oh, I don't know, maybe by humping someone you love,
which I already did today,
because I woke up with Theo in my arms.
Hey, Jax, how you doing?
Doing good.
I think we should celebrate with another episode of The Toast.
I love where your head is at.
The business strategy.
It's a crazy idea,
but you have to hear me out. I feel like that's what people need to get through to the latter half of the week. I mean, it is what we usually do and what we usually do like is working for us.
So I say stick to the stuff, you know, if you want to be cool, follow one simple rule don't mess with the flow no no
you're 100 right we should stick to the status quo octave change no no no such a good song and
such a good message is it a good message it's actually not actually such a good point it's
like the worst message no the point of the song was like they were trying to get Gabriela to not.
To stay in her box.
Yeah, to stay in her box and like, you know, only hang out with a certain group of people
and don't even think about blending.
And we love blending.
No, and it's like, Martha, you can't pop and lock and jam and break.
Like you must stay in your lane.
Yeah, but she should.
Have you seen her jam? Have you seen her break? That's your lane yeah but she should you have you seen her
jam have you seen her break that's what she's born to do have you seen her tiktok she's literally
dancing around the world and if she had stuck to the status quo we would never know dancer martha
we would only know nerd martha right so why'd they have to go and name her martha why not
no offense to our martha toasters it's just not it's not like the most young fabulous
vibrant name depends on the Martha so true I know a great Martha so do I yeah you're right
anyway like that's the thing about names like yes the person becomes the name the name but
sometimes a name becomes a person and they just they can't you know take
back control yeah well that's on them they're out of control right their personal accountability
they're spiraling personal accountability so important get a grip so stick to the status
quo when it's working and when what you're doing is really amazing and that's what the title of
the song should have been stick to the status quo when it's really working and when what you're doing is really amazing. And that's what the title of the song should have been.
Stick to the status quo when it's really working and when it's really amazing.
I would say that the students, though, the Wildcats would have said like the status quo
was working.
There was peace and harmony in the land.
Always playing devil's advocate.
But they didn't know how good it could be.
Right, right.
They were blinded.
Yeah.
By the quo.
By the quo that was statused can I tell you something
I'm like struggling with you know new conversation tangent sure so you know this weekend is opening
night of the eras tour and like I'm struggling with the fact that I'm not going to be there
like I did think about maybe getting on a flight to Arizona but like honestly I need a break from
travel um but like so much content is already coming out on TikTok like people are standing
outside State Farm Stadium they are filming because you can hear she has to rehearse. And so
they're filming like and knowing what songs are on the set list. Like I already know two songs that
are on the set list. Like I'm really annoyed. And I don't know how to like preserve my experience
because my show, my first show is not going to be until May. So I don't know how to like, you know,
engage with the Swifty community
when they're kind of being toxic right now and like giving spoilers. Where are you seeing the
spoilers? TikTok? All over TikTok. And the first show hasn't even happened. Once the first show
happens, like people are more than welcome to share. I'm not going to judge them for that,
but like, do I even want to see that? And you can't just like limit your TikTok use until this
weekend? Or are there ways to do filters on TikTok where you can like make sure that you're not seeing anything Taylor Swift, Swifty? I mean I could limit my TikTok
usage I just think it's important to be realistic in a scenario like this. Can you do filters on TikTok?
I know you I don't know if you can block like a hashtag. I feel like you could. But I've also
been getting like really good inspo for like what I should wear. So it's been helpful, but it's also being toxic.
I feel like you could figure out what to wear.
Yeah, I was actually thinking of the outfit I wore in Lisbon with the rainbow.
That's like been a lot of people's inspo for the Eros tour.
I know.
I didn't even think about it, but that dress is so lover era.
Yeah.
So I don't know.
It's just something like I'm struggling with.
I feel like a lot of Swifties can probably relate to like what I want to know and then it's like once the show actually happens
like do I watch all the videos or do I wait for it to be a surprise I think when I saw reputation
like I knew everything that was going to happen and it didn't really make a difference in how
much fun I had you know yeah it always makes every show a little special that's true I just
can't believe it's here like we've been talking about this for so long you know yeah and I still don't have tickets it's time still don't have tickets um don't even have like
a lead but again I just I'm not worried you know yeah what's meant for you will find you
I don't chase I attract so I hope that brings you peace, Turdy Lou. Thanks, Zizia Queen. Why don't you just make like a quick celebratory announcement.
Congratulate our girl, Jackie O.
This morning, she reached 300,000 followers on Instagram,
which I don't know if like as a society,
like we're beyond sharing like the 100,000 milestones,
but I'll never be over it.
Like it's so exciting.
It's so exciting.
We're beyond like, you you know balloons with 300 on them
and then taking a picture cancel that delivery I had turning to your house like I'm not gonna
post something in feed like 300k because every time like someone does that then they dip below
that's always yeah no and I do like always roll my eyes I'm a congrats who cares but I think we can
orally celebrate you know because we were talking about it this morning.
That's what we do on the show is talk about the things that we're talking about.
And that's kind of like been big news in our world this morning is that I hit 300K and then I'm just like growing on Instagram.
And it just feels exciting because like when you go to your page, there's a new number.
Like I remember when I went from 100 to 200 on TikTok, like I felt different.
Do you feel different?
No.
Oh.
Because I like it right right no I don't feel different
but it's just it's nice and also as I try and grow my business like it's always good to have
more followers and so it's business is good business is good you want to know why because
you're sticking to the status quo no I feel like I'm not sticking to the status quo I feel like I've
been switching it up yeah you have and I feel like actually I have been switching up my content a little bit recently.
Just being like a little more real.
Yeah.
I would say.
Because real people are real people.
And I feel like I'm attracting new audience.
You know, I feel like maybe I tapped out on what I was doing before.
Right.
Now you have so much to say.
So much to share.
So many things I'm learning every day.
I'm learning something new every day.
Especially in my driving excursions.
Right.
And by the way, another tour starting up soon is Luke Combs, which we're definitely going
to go to a show or two.
Yeah.
It's very exciting to be a fan of good music these days.
It is.
It's also exciting to be a country music fan when summer comes because there's always good
tours.
Festivals.
And I actually live near like a lot of
different venues that I could go to you do and so I'm really excited to see Luke Combs Morgan Wallen
Lady A there's also a big country music festival down here in April Tortuga Tortuga and so I need
to look at the lineup and see if that's worth pursuing and I just started planning my stage
coach you know last year I decided last minute not to go and I gave all my tickets to Margo which up and see if that's worth pursuing. And I just started planning my stage coach. You know, last
year I decided last minute not to go and I gave all my tickets to Margo, which was so nice of me.
I did make her pay for them. That was misleading. And I had a lot of regrets, but I had MSG the next
week and I just thought it would be irresponsible to be like out partying for four days before like
one of the most important nights of my life. And now I'm going, I'm planning to go. I'm very
excited. I got to get my outfits ready. It's going to be great going I'm planning to go I'm very excited I gotta get
my outfits ready it's gonna be great I've been to stagecoach in years yeah that's gonna be really
fun I'm sorry I know it's hard for you to hear not really especially when let me look at the
Tortuga lineup yeah Tortuga is like low-key like a major country festival I feel like people don't
talk about it because it's randomly in Fort Lauderdale but it's like on the beach and it's really beautiful and they get like major major line headliners yeah okay oh my god this
was last year I think literally the best lineup ever I don't even want to what's this year this
year Eric Church Shania Twain Kenny Chesney pretty good yeah if I'm looking for a night out with country music like it's pretty good on the beach yeah good things good things I love festival season for me like I don't like you know
Coachella and stuff but country music festivals if you haven't been like I highly recommend even
if you don't like country music but you can appreciate that talent you can appreciate
good music and live music excuse me blessed on it it's true um if you
appreciate like just talent i think and who doesn't appreciate talent i think you'd enjoy
it it's a great vibe yeah so i'm excited about those tings yeah i'm also excited that it's
wednesday we have dear toasters we actually have so many good submissions i was teetering i almost
had four because they were so good but But I'll save the next one.
Oh my God.
Turdy Lou.
Till Turdy Lou's not crazy.
Keep it in your pants.
No, there's one that's like real.
I know people are not going to like what I have to say.
I love that for you.
Yeah.
Throwing you into the fire.
I almost didn't include it because I'm like, oh, let's just give like another thing for
people to hate us about.
But you know what?
I love it.
I think it'll spark interesting debate, interesting interesting debate interesting conversation obsessed what's the topic please
you're just like teasing me now the topic is the disabled yeah no it's kind of crazy
okay it's I don't know how to like summarize the topic in another word other than that
should we just like do it right now because i don't know if i could wait you know what i said
i have four so maybe i'll do the other three let's just do this one right now okay like um claudia
which is so crazy because we said we were gonna stick to the status quo today and we're not but
we're not but as we also said amazing things can happen when you break free from the status quo we're breaking free soaring flying okay ready
hey jackson turd i'm a longtime listener thank you both for getting me through life as a new mom
and a nurse oh now that i i didn't realize i kind of skimmed through the bio she's a nurse so that
makes sense why she's having this dilemma here's the situation okay my father-in-law passed away
last december prior to that, he was
given a handicap hanger for his car due to his inability to walk long distances. Fast forward to
now, my mother-in-law still uses the handicap sign and parks in handicap parking all the time.
It drives me absolutely nuts. She's not a malicious person or ill-intending, but I know that it's
wrong. How do I confront the situation? Should I say something at all? She has absolutely no reason other than wanting to park closer to entrances. Please help. I'm
just a toaster trying to do the right thing and make the world a better and safer place for all
people. So what my initial thought was like, it is unequivocally wrong to use a handicap
placard when you don't need one. It's, it's for people who need it. But I don't know,
like this woman just lost her husband. Like maybe this is her way of grieving. Those things expire at some point. Like she won't get a new who need it but I don't know like this woman just lost her husband like maybe this is her way of grieving those things expire at some point like she won't get
a new one like I don't know just like leave her alone and if her husband just passed away she's
probably not extremely young like right even if she's say 50 60s like she wants to park closer
to the store let her I kind of and I kind of agree with you and um like you said they do expire so eventually
like her her time will run out but it's if this is like one small silver lining to like what she's
been through in the last year is like she gets to take her handicap pass out for a joy ride
I I wouldn't be such a narc yeah she's not like a 16 year old sprightly like using her grandfather's that's really fucked
up that's messed up yeah I I just feel like this is a situation where I would just like mind my own
business yeah I was just like uh pretend like I didn't notice that what are you gonna do about it
say something to her like don't be a narc come on she's going no I know and this woman just like
lost her husband like give her the last few months of the parking pass it'll be up soon yeah and then she'll have to deal with what she's probably avoiding yeah long walks to
the supermarket yeah no I mean we've all been tempted you know to just pull into that spot
driving around the parking lot for hours and hours um and it's wrong it's wrong but I don't know you
know she's a little old lady she's alone now she doesn't have
help to carry the groceries to the car I can think of so many worse people who could abuse that
placard and you know what a little old lady with her groceries like sure you could park at the
front yeah and I will say I don't know because I obviously don't have a handicap placard but I feel
like most of the time I don't know if there's like't have a handicap placard. But I feel like most of the time, I don't know if there's like many, many situations
where like a handicapped person cannot use the spot because someone else is using it.
Like whenever I see them, they're always empty.
Like people really do respect the handicapped parking spots, which they should.
So I don't know.
I just feel like, you know, it's okay.
Let it go.
Yeah.
But I know I'm going to be called ableist for that.
So that's why I was just like talking about hot take.
Got it.
I don't know.
Maybe.
I just feel like people are like using the word ableist really fast and loose these days.
I feel like we had this conversation a few weeks ago.
Like everything can't be ableist, you know?
Yeah.
Like people on TikTok make these crazy arguments like such
stretches like you like like literally the most mundane thing they're like that's ableist
and it's actually rooted in misogyny no but then like shit that's actually ableist
like literally atrociously vile statements yeah Yeah. So I'm not ableist.
I just think it's important to say that.
But that was like your little teaser, a little palate cleanser for Dear Toasters,
which is at the end of today's episode.
I just like to like prioritize things that need to be fixed in the world.
And like the little old lady using the handicap placard after her husband just passed away.
And it's like this one small win for her.
It's not it.
For me.
For me. For you for me for you and for
you and this is also a great time to remind you guys if you're dealing with something email us
dear toasters at gmail.com we will always keep your prompts anonymous and if you're dealing with
something whether it's mother-in-laws handicap placards whatever it is shoot us an email dear
toasters at gmail.com okay and I think with that little teaser,
we can get into the stories.
Yeah.
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Reason to tear.
Okay, our first story, some fashion drama.
Zendaya's stylist, Law Roach, says he's retiring due to politics and lies.
So Zendaya stylist was also styled many a star,
but he's most famous for Zendaya because one,
she has the best style and I think they've worked together for the longest and the most events.
He's all,
he's also known for like specific moments,
maybe not clients like Zendaya,
but I think he did a lot of Ariana Grande's music videos during her iconic
music video era.
Yeah.
He's also dressed Megan Thee Stallion,
Hunter Schafer,
Kerry Washington, Celine Dion,
Ari, Priyanka Chopra, Lindsay Lohan, Addison, more.
But Zendaya.
Also, because she's just like the most fashionable girl
on the planet.
And here's the man behind it.
Anyways, he posted a picture saying,
retired with the caption, my cup is empty.
Thank you to everyone who have supported me
in my career over the years.
Every person that trusted me with their image, I'm so grateful for you all.
If this business was just about to close, I would do it for the rest of my life,
but unfortunately it's not.
The politics, the lies, and false narratives finally got me.
You win, I'm out.
This was shocking for a multitude of reasons.
One, he's not particularly old, and he's not particularly old and he's not particularly like
uh washed up like he's at the top of his literally like just was doing stars at the vanity fair
oscars party this weekend and so many of his clients and just like major major celebrities
were commenting on his post like what no you can't so it seemed like it was something nobody
knew about um and obviously the internet has flocked to find the reason and and they think they found it um there there is this video going
around from very recent I think last week Paris Fashion Week he went to the Louis Vuitton show
with Zendaya they both walk out to the front row the person shows Zendaya her seat and Law doesn't
have a seat and Zendaya points behind her there's a seat directly behind her in the second row she's like oh that's your seat and he looks verklempt flustered offended
pissed so I don't know if that's the whole reason because he said the politics that could be the
seat the seat is politics the lies and false narratives but maybe he got that seat because
of lies and false narratives that are like circling. I felt two ways about SeatGate because on the one hand, like who was the front row for,
if not the biggest stylists and the biggest stars and the people who can have access,
put their clients in these clothes.
I feel like so often it's like influencers or just like random people who aren't buying
your clothes, who's, who's not followers are it, whose followers are.
And it's just it's very.
And if I was someone who's like a veteran in the industry, I would see that and be annoyed
like for me as a follower of people, I'm like, oh, I'm glad my person was in the front because
I got to see front row view.
Yeah, but when you think about it, it doesn't make sense.
It's someone who actually has influence in the fashion world and like can get these dresses on influential people, why that
person wouldn't be in the front row. Right. Like when you think about it, those top stylists like
are actually the most, the influencers of fashion because they're influencing the major players like
Zendaya. Yeah. And Zendaya then influences the people.
The culture.
Yeah.
So I understood why, of course,
like he should be in the front row.
And that is a bit of a slap in the face,
especially if there were people in the front row who aren't A-listers and an amateur.
And especially because it seemed like he was told
he would be sitting in the front row
because he walked to the front with Zendaya.
I don't think he would have just assumed that unless he knew. Yeah. But you like
in a situation like that, when it's like bleachers, like you do walk across the floor and then like
go up to your stand. No, I feel like you walk from the back. No, I don't think so. Yeah.
You walk from the back. Yeah. Like depending on how the room is set up, I've been to like two
seated shows and you walk in like from like at the last row and then you walk up the back? Yeah, like, depending on how the room is set up, I've been to, like, two seated shows,
and you walk in, like, from, like, at the last row,
and then you walk up to the front.
Oh, I've experienced that.
Unless they're walking from backstage,
which is impossible, too.
Yeah, no, but I think you walk,
everyone, like, walks on the floor,
and, like, even if they're, like, on the runway sometimes
until the show starts, just to, like, get up to their seats.
No, like, what I'm thinking about the layout, I mean, I guess it just depends what the show is until the show starts just to like get up to their seats. No, like what I'm thinking about the layout.
I mean, I guess it just depends what the show is.
Every show is different, but you would walk in from like the door
and you would enter like the first thing you see would be the last row.
It depends.
Whatever. I mean, it depends. Yeah.
But I just it looked like he was told that he would get a front row seat that's why he
like you know no but also like some Anna Wintour doesn't need to be told that she's gonna get a
front row seat true also very true and and I know that he's not Anna Wintour but like he is one of
the most influential people in fashion it's not like he needs to be promised a front row seat in
order to go like it should be expected but on the other hand it's like it's hard for us to and lay
people in general to like understand why you get like so
offended about a seat you know right but like it's the front row politics it's a sign of respect
yeah no like and I think law has worked if you're not front you're last a hundred percent and I
think it's like all right maybe when you start out even if you're having a ton of success you
don't come to expect things like that but when you're like a veteran of this industry and you're
at the top of your game and you walk in with Zendaya like you expect a little respect yeah so that definitely
would put a bad taste in his mouth but not enough to retire from the industry as a whole
no there's definitely more going on because if I were him and Louis Vuitton disrespecting me like
that like okay my clients are just not wearing Louis Vuitton ever again but Zendaya is like a
face of Louis Vuitton so that's the politics it's like you hate Louis Vuitton because they disrespected you but a lot of the top clients you work with are actually faces wearing Louis Vuitton ever again. But Zendaya is like a face of Louis Vuitton. So that's the politics. It's like you hate Louis Vuitton because they disrespected you.
But a lot of the top clients you work with are actually faces of Louis Vuitton
that have contracts and have to wear.
But he could get any new clients that aren't part of Louis Vuitton.
Yeah, but like Zendaya, you don't just give up on Zendaya.
But this can't be the one and only reason, of course.
Maybe it just was like the straw that broke the camel's back.
But it does remind me a lot of Michael Costello.
When Michael Costello posted, because for me, when I look at Michael Costello,
when I look at Law Roach, two unequivocal talents.
So good at what they do, but both referencing some petty Hollywood bullshit.
And it just reminded me a lot of that, like so sad how someone, both of these people
who are so talented and have so much potential kind of being sidelined.
What happened in the Michael Costello situation that reminds you of this?
He posted, um, that like he basically was like blacklisted from, and it made sense to
us because we were like, he's so talented,
his dresses are so beautiful
and he never really got to a level
that he should.
Right.
And he said,
literally I've been blacklisted in this industry
by certain people.
He mentioned Chrissy Teigen.
Yeah.
But just like how,
it's not even about how talented you are.
It's about like the connections,
the hot,
the swinging,
you know,
who you're with.
And it should be like a meritocracy,
but it's not
yeah yeah I don't know what this is I really hope that we get more info I also feel like he's
there's no way he's actually retiring I was gonna say do you think this is like a
a legitimate retiree no I think it's a little dramatic yeah yeah yeah because he's he's the
top of his game everyone wants to work with him.
If you look back in the last 10 years
of like the most iconic looks in pop culture,
he's been responsible for a lot of them.
So I don't think you give up something like that.
But it's easy to get frustrated when, again,
you're not being seen for your talent.
It's a cacophony of other really irrelevant factors.
Yeah.
And as he said, like he loves fashion.
If it was just about the clothes, he would do it forever. And so I don't think he's literally going to spend the rest of his life,
like not doing this thing that he loves. Maybe he will pivot into doing it in a way that he doesn't
have to deal with all this shit, whether that's like doing his own line, or I know he's also a
judge on an HBO max show. Yeah. All those things to me sound even more political, but. Yeah, Hollywood. What do I know?
But like, you know, front row politics is extreme.
The comment section on his Instagram is worth scrolling through.
It's crazy.
Like the stars were shooketh.
Yeah.
Yeah, I saw some of them.
Addison commented.
Lisa Rinna commented.
And it wasn't like, oh, you've done amazing them. Addison commented. Lisa Rinna commented.
And it wasn't like, oh, you've done amazing work.
Oh, yeah. Naomi was like, no, we will not let you.
So it wasn't like everyone, oh, we'll miss you.
You did amazing work.
Bye.
It was like, no.
What?
Yeah, I don't think they're going to let him quit.
I don't think that he should quit, even though he didn't say quit.
He said retired.
Right.
But whoever offended him
has some explaining to do yeah we're in trouble yeah in trouble yeah do you think like he's
beefing with Zendaya no because he could just drop her as a client yeah and he could give all
those looks to someone else right she really is like the it girl of fashion and if like and if he really has beef
with her like he could find whoever and he probably spends a lot of time with her he probably knows
whoever her like whoever she's always competing with I don't even know who that would be right
them all the looks so true I don't think it's in day because she also just seems really nice
use a new stylist and is not a competitor but like similar Sydney Sweeney Sydney Sweeney like
her looks are always aging her.
She's always looking matronly.
I know she has a partnership with Tory Burch
and I just don't think it's like a good match for her.
So if he wanted to get back,
even though like Zendaya is so much bigger than Sydney Sweeney,
but they're both on Euphoria
and Sydney Sweeney is going to have a very long career ahead of her.
He could go to her because she's in dire straits.
She's in dire need.
Yeah.
It's also interesting. Like to me, he seems like the number one stylist in Hollywood.
But then some of his clients it's like oh how'd you get to work with him?
Like yeah.
Maybe he's really loyal and like people who worked with him when he wasn't the biggest.
He stuck by people who stuck by him.
Yeah.
Like he did Hailee Steinfeld for Vanity Fair.
I actually didn't really like what she wore. Let me um look i just didn't like the length of the dress the dress is really beautiful
but like for me i'm a gown or a mini girl like that in between i know it's very high fashion
like teacup like right above the ankle i don't like that personally but i know i could be wrong
i'm obviously you know i'm wearing the same pants for the fifth day in a row. What the fuck do I know?
Oh, I think I see it.
No, this is 2020.
It's like a silver dress that like really cuts her off like before her heels.
I hate that.
Is it this one?
I can't see what you're showing me.
It says 2020.
There's no way.
Whatever.
That's irrelevant. But Hailee Steinfeld is still like really major.
She's been like quiet for a few years, but she has like a huge global following. It's like kind of crazy. But Hailee Steinfeld is still like really major.
She's been like quiet for a few years, but she has like a huge global following.
It's like kind of crazy.
What is she major doing right now?
No, I just said not right now.
I'm just saying in general.
She's like an Oscar nominated actress.
She's a pop star.
She was like the lead in, you know, Pitch Perfect.
She's major.
I would say she's major.
Okay.
The dress goes all the way down to the floor.
Not what I saw it.
It was above the ankles.
And she's wearing a coat with it.
It's fashion for sure.
I know.
And that's one thing about me.
Like I will critique everyone and everything.
Meanwhile, like I'm a slob who knows nothing.
I think that's important.
I'm crying because her dress is down to the floor covering her heels.
Next story.
Lindsay Lohan is pregnant expecting her first baby with Bader Shamus Lindsay is pregnant expecting expecting her first first baby with her husband Bader Shamus her rep
says she's feeling great and she's thrilled she shared the news via Instagram on Tuesday with a
photo of a baby bodysuit that said coming soon on it and then her rep confirmed that she is pregnant and they're
expecting a baby so welcome to the pregnancy bunch this is a great one for the crew huge for
the community i literally forgot she was like married is she married yeah i totally forgot
married for a while now like she's really very low settled. Settled. Settled and, you know, married, pregnant, like very traditional.
Yeah, I didn't see that for her.
And by the way, the comments were so nice.
Like Lacey Chabert, Gretchen Wieners, Paris Hilton.
Oh, all the Parent Trap queens.
Like it was actually really nice to see all the people who still wish Lindsay well.
I feel like everyone who has worked with her like really roots for her,
which is so nice to see. But I also feel like in the last few years I feel like we
still like kind of write Lindsay off as like yes who knows what she's doing she's you know she's
Lindsay she's Lindsay but she's been like working recently and going to like doing interviews and
red carpets and and she's very just like for lack of a better word like normal in the sense
that like she's just working in Hollywood right now and and being a wife and and a future mom and
like going about her business not doing what she was doing before which was you know like running
around the globe and Instagram living yeah and the club in Mykonos yeah oh right you know like
she's just settled down now.
And I feel like she's been doing it for at least a year or two.
She was in that Netflix Christmas movie.
And like, it's really sticking.
Yeah.
No, I feel like she's in a good place.
There was like a rough couple of years.
But she seems really happy.
I'm so glad she's pregnant.
I think that's so cute.
And it's at the same time as Paris, which is just like so crazy.
You know, like all the girls are growing up. All the girls are growing up. I watched a clip of an interview that she's pregnant. I think that's so cute. And it's at the same time as Paris, which is just like so crazy. You know, like all the girls are growing up.
All the girls are growing up.
I watched a clip of an interview that she did recently, Lindsay.
And like, I was just struck by how sober she sounded.
Not in like an actual drunk sort of way, but just in like a lucid.
Yeah.
Like she's just had so many eras of her career that you just expect her to be one thing at
this point.
But then when you actually hear her speak, it's like, oh, she's just same old Lindsay.as of her career that you just expect her to be one thing at this point but then when you actually hear her speak it's like oh she's just same old lindsey yeah i agree
it's nice i'm really happy for her yeah i'm really happy for her and i'm and dina's becoming a grandma
i'm excited for the pregnancy content yeah and the looks like a she needs like a big cover you know
yeah we need like a lindsey explainer in order for this era to feel
really relevant yeah like she's back and she's been back so like why isn't anyone reintroducing
her right she needs like a Vogue cover and like honestly being pregnant would be so beautiful like
she needs like this like a reintroductory reintroduction to society or a book or a documentary yeah but I also feel like doing
a book in a documentary is like really traumatizing when you have like so much trauma I feel like
maybe she's just at a good place and doesn't want to relive it which I totally understand too
yeah but some sort of sit down like where we're just turning over a new leaf yeah I would love
to hear her talk about like all the times she was
interviewed like because now those clips go so viral like old interviews where people were so
rude and dismissive and misogynistic about like the place she was in and like she's really kind
of become kind of like Britney like um an example of like how the media really destroyed all these
young women's lives and I would love to hear her talk about that. So maybe she's like hesitant.
Well, she's definitely burned by the media.
So I understand why she's not desperate
to like go run and do a cover.
Or like sit down with Oprah.
Because even like some of the questions Oprah asked her
have come back and been like question mark.
Yeah.
She needs a podcast.
100%.
Living Low Hand.
Season two.
Or she needs like some very open loving sisterly hosts trusted sources who
would let her speak her truth and we don't edit we don't edit we don't edit unless you unless you
would ask us to of course i would do anything for lindsay do you feel like a kinship to lindsey
like redheaded queens well she left the tribe for many years so like when we were
younger like you were literally the quintessential redhead and so was she and she was like our idol
she was a really good redhead role model for a while yeah like she always like had good like
redhead hair and makeup and like made really redheads like seem so beautiful and so yeah I do
but then I feel like I forgot how I
felt about her when I was like younger because now I just think of her as like when she was blonde
and when she was brunette and she was she was so she was not red for so many years that I kind of
forget she's a redhead what do you think is Lindsay's most underrated film
confessions of a teenage drama queen I know you're gonna say georgia rule
oh no oh my god i forgot i was gonna say her be fully loaded oh not the most underrated but she's
so good in everything like if you watch her be fully loaded it's like a dumb disney movie whatever
like she's really so good and she's so committed to that car no she's so committed to the car
she's really i feel like she's literally like acting with a car.
It's like when she did Parent Trap, she was acting with no one.
And then herself.
Like, I think people really forget.
Like, she's such a talented actress.
Like, that's why she blew up when she did.
She is a star.
She has real talent.
No, she really does.
And even when she comes back and does movies, like, she's a really great actress. She didn't just like blow up like she's a really great actress she was didn't
just like blow up because she's a celebrity and we're just like she was cute care about like the
tabloids like she's an amazing actress Mean Girls obviously Freaky Friday Just My Luck just my life
size oh my god Eve's great no matter where she goes.
She's an amazing actress.
That's why like whenever she wants to come back to the world of acting, like she'll be great.
It's in her.
Yeah, we welcome her back.
She's very talented.
Thank you for bringing up Georgia Rule.
Any excuse to talk about that film.
And if you ever want to know why Rotten Tomatoes
is literally a not trusted source
and you should never make any decisions
based on Rotten Tomato,
all you need to do
is look up the scores
for The Lobster
and Georgia Rule.
One of them has like
an 100
and one of them has a 30
and one of them sucks
and one of them doesn't
and it's not what you think.
Yeah, Georgia Rule
really was so good.
Oh, such a good movie.
Lynette Scobbo,
Jane Fonda,
Garrett Hedlund,
Star...
Who's the older man?
The guy! The guy, Jackie! Wait, wait, wait. Dermot Mulroney. Dermot, yeah. jane fonda garrett headlund star older man the guy the guy jackie yeah who is like everything to everyone yeah oh and then there's an older man right for jane fonda and who's that carrie
elwes which you wouldn't recognize the name but he was just in that christmas movie with brook
shields that we watched the scottish castle such a bad movie like next level bad it wasn't so good
it was so good it wasn't great no it was it was big budget you know netflix christmas movie which
is is good but brook shield should really be ashamed of herself. Like that was bad.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, actually that's a great segue into our next story,
which is getting a bump up.
Okay.
Because Nancy Meyers' $130 million rom-com
is no longer moving forward at Netflix
and the project is looking at new buyers.
So a lot of industry info here.
Netflix has pulled the plug on nancy myers's next movie
a star-studded romantic comedy that would have marked the director's first film in years over
budget concerns but don't cry into your cashmere sweater just yet turdy lou sources with knowledge
of the project said the filmmaker is looking into other options to make the movie prior to the film
reportedly titled paris paramount being shelved scarlett johansson what's the title
paris paramount not great uh yeah scarlett johansson palpe cruz owen wilson and michael
fassbender were being courted for lead roles pending talent availability the project will
be shopped to prospective buyers as a package one source added so netflix announced the rom-com in
april 2022 and greenlit a price tag well over $100 million,
a source confirmed to Variety.
Nancy wanted $150 million to produce the film,
but Netflix wouldn't go over $130.
It's not clear how much of the budget is set aside
for Nancy's paycheck versus, you know, like The Kitchens.
Yeah, The Kitchens.
She was set to write, direct, and produce this movie,
which is semi-autobiographical it's a story about hollywood exes who end up working together she was married to director
charles shire with whom she had two children for nearly 20 years as a couple they worked on
several award-winning comedies such as private benjamin baby boom and father of the bride baby
boom is so fucking good yeah so then i guess they split and they wound up working together again.
She hasn't done a fully Nancy picture since the intern, but she did produce Home Again,
which was written and directed by her daughter, I just learned.
Oh, that's sweet.
Home Again wasn't her best.
And there was very-
It wasn't hers, technically.
There were predatory
undertones to the whole thing um it was weird it's weird it wasn't good honestly I'm just I
feel like Netflix spends so much money on so much crap and even if this movie was not good people
would watch it anyway because it's Nancy Meyers and she has such a cult following and I feel like
this is a huge mistake when I first saw the headline it made it seem like the movie was never
gonna you know see the light of day it just it's
just not gonna be at Netflix but somebody's gonna buy this yeah someone will buy this people will
watch this she's really never flopped when it's her stamp on everything and this would be a
situation where it's a completely Nancy production I don't know who wouldn't chomp at the bit over this. What do you think is Nancy Meyers' best movie?
Okay, let me pull up her catalog
because I just want to make sure I'm considering all options.
And I just want to say one of the biggest mysteries of this world
is the fact that Because I Said So is not a Nancy Meyers movie.
It's so Nancy Meyers.
It's Fancy Fires.
With Diane Keaton and Mandy Moore.
I always feel like it's a Nancy Meyers movie.
And it's like low-key not.
Yeah.
The Parent Trap with Lindsay Lohan is a Nancy Meyers movie, which is.
Oh my God.
Maybe Nancy could revitalize Lindsay's acting career.
100%.
I love The Intern.
I think it's like an amazing, amazing movie with an amazing message.
Me too, but it doesn't give me quintessential Nancy, you know,
coastal grandmother vibe.
No, I think her best is The Holiday.
Ooh, yeah.
Read them all one more time before I make my selection.
The Intern, it's complicated.
That one you love.
I love that movie.
The Holiday, something's got to give.
You love. That's it. Sorry, something's gotta give you love that's sorry something's gotta give is my favorite father of the bride part one part two part three
is coming no 2020 came out missed it um baby boom baby boom is so good private benjamin
irreconcilable differences she worked on worked on, I Love Trouble.
So what did you select?
The Holiday.
The Holiday.
I'm going to go Something's Gotta Give, but The Holiday and It's Complicated are close seconds.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I like that for you.
I want to live in a Nancy Meyers film.
Like everyone just has money and they don't ever seem to be worrying about money.
They all have great style.
The perfect linen pants, like, you know, always always she should come out with a homeware line yeah but like she's so rich like she doesn't need it you know she doesn't need it but it could be
like you know community service for her to like give it would be helpful unity and that people
could live in these homes it would be good for people to live in such relaxing
environments she also recently had her home photographed for um architectural digest and
people were quaking because it's like finally inside and it was it was so nancy it was so
stunning yeah gotta be nancy peak nancy yeah so good damn well hopefully that movie gets picked up shortly gets made quickly
but not too quick you know don't compromise because I'm looking forward to watching it and
I like to cast options yeah I don't love Owen Wilson in like a serious role but it's like it's
like the rom-coms that's not serious no no no like i'm sorry let me
rephrase i don't love seeing owen wilson as like the heartthrob man to me and when he was in
midnight in paris which is literally like a scorsese nope the other one the other one
the glass spielberg no glasses glasses is Scorsese. No, no, no. Glasses. What's his name?
Claude.
He's like the one.
He's, you know, the rain in New York City with Selena.
Oh, Woody Allen.
Woody Allen.
Yeah.
I did not feel like he was right for that.
Like, I don't see him in this like Prince Charming kind of way.
Like, I really see him as like the internship wedding crusher.
The clown.
Fast clown.
Clown.
I'm sorry.
I do
so I don't I don't I actually don't love that selection I love Penelope Cruz who was the other
woman Scarlett Johansson wonderful literally would take a bullet for and then who was the
other man oh stunning like older Silver Fox that's what she's great at like Silver Fox like
she could even in a weird way she could make anyone attractive like I do not in the slightest
find Alec Baldwin even remotely attractive but like in that film I was like yeah it's complicated
it is complicated yeah go Jake go Jake yeah I just wanted to say I disagree about Owen Wilson
I think there's something really affable and like lovable about him and he's like I think he's a
cutie and he could be my leading man because I like that he's like
silly affable is a good word I'm more of a Luke Wilson girl and I feel like nobody even thinks
ever to put it about Luke Wilson yeah he would be great for this they're always thinking about
Owen and I'm thinking about Luke but But they think about Luke sometimes. Like he's in Legally Blonde.
Is there a better role?
Jackie, that's literally all he's in.
No, Claude.
You just don't notice him when he's in stuff because he really becomes the character, you know?
Here, let's do his movies.
I'm telling you, he doesn't got like a great he's underappreciated and I think it's because
of his brother you think that Owen is the superior Wilson in terms of fame yeah I think
it's not even comparable I wonder why because Luke is more handsome so I guess like really
looks don't win no I think um yeah when you take a look at their like you know resumes it's not even we always
you know reference Owen Wilson as Emmett from Legally Blonde but beyond that like I could not
name a single role and Owen Wilson has like a few key movies that are blockbusters blockbusters and
that's Wedding Crashers that's The Internship that's Midnight in Paris like he has a lot of
like major.
Whereas like I couldn't name anything other than Legally Blonde for Owen Wilson.
I don't think they're even remotely comparable.
No.
But he is also in like The Royal Ten Mounds, Anchorman, Family Stone.
Like a bunch of other stuff.
But to me those movies.
Oh he was in the Family Stone.
To me those movies don't measure up.
No.
Family Stone is really good though.
No.
No.
Yeah. Like the Family Stone stones like an indie like christmas
movie like not everyone's seen it right same with royals henna bounds but that's probably
like one of his most famous roles yes and i haven't seen it but it's like on my list of
things to do before i die yeah i feel like you would not like it oh really Because it's just like. Is Gwyneth in it? Gwyneth is in it, which is a plus.
Yeah.
But it's very like artsy.
Oh.
But comedy, but not in a slapstick sort of way.
Okay.
I plan on seeing it sometime in my life.
You should watch it because I'd be so curious to hear your thoughts.
It's like you would want to like it because the concept is a good one.
But like I just don't think you would like the way that it's rolls out because it reminds me of and
I don't know if it is Wes Anderson oh that's like not my vibe yeah is this Wes Anderson yeah it is
oh all right well I guess that makes sense why it's the vibe and why it's not your vibe right
no I'm not a Wes Anderson girl like not in the slightest no but the like the poster for each movie I'm like oh I would love
this movie the one with the hotel hotel couldn't make it through five minutes stunning midnight
I saw one Wes Anderson movie and it was one of the worst experiences of my life I went to the
movies in college with my friend Abe and he's like really like artsy and like into shit like that and I just was non-stop rolling my eyes it was something about like kids going
camping it was like a moon horrible agreed agreed like so bad but people love him no and that's
what's so fabulous about art and culture is Is there something for everyone? The key word used to describe Wes Anderson's style is formalism.
That's literally not a word.
Not a word and definitely not something that's going to pique my curiosity.
No, no.
That's not even a word.
So maybe just you don't need to see Royal Tenenbaums.
Okay.
But you should because it's a good cast.
But like anything with Gwyneth, like I will like.
I agree.
I also need to see Shakespeare in Love.
It's such a big cast.
I don't know if you get enough Gwyneth.
Yeah, I need to see Shakespeare in Love.
I've actually never seen that.
And that's her Oscar winning role.
Yeah.
Look at you, Shakespeare.
I'm so literary.
Turdy Lou Shakespeare.
William Turdy Lou.
Speaking of names, are you ready for our next story?
Yeah.
Nikki and Brie Bella are leaving WWE and announcing a name change for their next chapter.
Wait, what?
Yeah, I know.
Nikki and Brie Bella have announced their retirement from WWE as well as a major name change.
The twin sisters announced a decision Tuesday telling fans they will now be known by their birth surnames Nikki and Brie Garcia or the Garcia twins.
They said on the Nikki and Brie show on Sir ASXM, today we are officially from here on out the Garcia twins Brie and Nikki Garcia.
We're going to be 40 in November.
We're mothers.
We're entrepreneurs. We're executive producers we're mothers we're entrepreneurs we're
executive producers we're starring now we're hosting shows the twins explained that when
their contract with WWE came to an end the pair just knew it was time to head into this next
direction next chapter they said I just Brie said I just want to thank Brie Bella the character the
name all of it I have been the last 16 17 years I'm so excited to close that chapter on Brie Bella
put that book to the side and open up a new one and see what Brie Garcia is going to do
next it never occurred to me that that wasn't their name like even though when I think about
it like yeah everyone has like stage names on WWE like Brie's husband is Daniel Bryanson but
he's Brian Danielson you know like they switched his name for like I get it um I just
didn't ever expect that Brie Bella and Nikki Bella wasn't their names because I've just become so
accustomed to that right and that's also become their brand like they had a show the Bella
sisters like right they're the Bella twins yeah and they've lead into the Bella twins and so
I understand like you know this differentiation like I want to be Miley Cyrus not Hannah Montana anymore but they've spent so many years like branding putting money time effort
into like the Bella brand it's really hard to do a rebrand I know and you know what this reminds me
of do you like know at all what I'm gonna say let me think uh like somebody who's like a really
established brand just saying like I want to change my name somebody who has a really it happened like somewhat recently and we were like what
and then the person like never really enforced the change but like they legally changed it
yeah yeah kelly clarkson yes what did she change it like kelly brianne or something like
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah what did she change it like kelly brianne or something like kelly brianne yeah brianne of
tarth right it was like so fucking random and we were like no but like that's a great example
because i do hope that this is like that where in a year we're going to be like remember when
they said they're the garcias but we're still they're still the bellas like in entertainment
when it's when you're so famous and like your name is your brand especially with them because
they're not just individuals they're like this brand brand, this team of twins, the Bella twins.
It is so hard to get people to change.
I feel like even when people get married,
people did not say Kim Kardashian West for a really long time.
And once we got comfortable, she changed it back.
Like it's really hard to be famous and to have a name change.
I feel like someone who's famous,
who actually had a really seamless name change
was when Claudia Asheri went from Claudia to Turdy Lou like it happened in days but that's because like Claudia
was really never Claudia she was like always Turdy Lou and people never really felt comfortable
calling her Claudia so they were just like waiting for when she dropped the new name I thought you
were like actually gonna say like a good example because a good example I think of and it's because
I really felt like this was the way her name was meant to be is Sheena Shea like that's not that's not her name will
be matter she was Sheena Marie yeah but her name was always meant to be Sheena Marie Shea
but she's not Sheena Shea anymore yeah she is she is not isn't that Shea's name yeah but she was
married and hold on and now she's married again oh she's married again wait you're totally right
what is sheena's last name no they're actually a lot of influence yes sheena shea is literally
on her instagram sheena shea oh same lauren lane lauren lane no but even what is her real
name right no she's lauren lane so many people that i follow on instagram like
i find it actually oddly easy to switch to their
married names like even I was looking at Jojo Fletcher and I just think of her as like Jojo
Rogers just because I'm always like Jordan Jojo Jordan and then I was thinking what is her maiden
name oh I don't follow her so she's always Jojo Fletcher to me but yes when you follow someone
and they change their name like even Dana you're the redhead she's like always always always been
Dana Holes like that's Dana Holes Dana Holes Dana Holes and the day she got married literally I think
she went to the bathroom after the ceremony and changed her Instagram name Dana Webman down to
her Venmo she made a new Gmail I thought that was crazy um and I was like damn she's always Dana
Holes and now she's really Dana Webman yeah it, it can be done for a married name.
This is a little different.
One, because like we have so many years of the Bellas.
They're the Bella sisters.
And it really like, it's an entertainment innate.
You know why they chose it for WWE.
Yeah, it's cute.
And it's like very Bella.
Yeah.
Bella.
It's global.
It's global.
It's Twilight. It's Speedy and the Bees. Like it's everything. Totally random. Yeah. Bella. It's global. It's global. It's Twilight.
It's Speedy and the Bees.
Like it's everything.
Totally random.
Speaking of Bella, I started my book for a book club, which I told you about.
It's One Italian Summer by Rebecca Searle.
The way she is painting Positano, I'm going.
Like that's on my list.
I'm going in the summer.
I think maybe like.
Your maternity leave.
Like maybe I'll take a week and go.
Like I have to go to Positano before I die you do and I feel
like even just looking at pictures it's so that way even though like she does also describe like
the way the city is built it's like a lot of stairs yeah um and there's like not a lot of
cars but I'll figure it out I like I'm holding myself accountable I'm saying I'm going to
Positano yeah the thing about Positano though I think
is like once you're there
there's so many other great places around.
Then it turns into like this big coastal Euro trip.
And then that's like a lot to wrap your head around.
I know but I feel like I would be okay just seeing one.
And like I would do a day trip to Capri.
It's like if I could take a car sure
but like trains, planes, automobiles.
Boat I would love love love love.
Yeah I think you
could do a bike boat and in the book the girl went in June and she was like it's so much better
because it's really hot but like it's before tourist season so I'm just I might be gone for
a week you guys I have to experience one Italian summer it's totally fine yeah go in July or August
the weather is really like at its peak that's why it's tourist season right now I'm going yeah
send me your recs you should go no I'm gonna go like this is my
year of yes and I'm doing it good I love that for you thank you um what are we talking about
who are you gonna go with uh Ben oh just the two of you yeah who else you wanna go like a swirly
trip I will be so god willing so pregnant you can waddle down those
steps you'll be fine I can't go international so maybe we do have to go in June maybe we do have
to go in June if we go in June you'll come no yeah I think it's I think it's like a romantic
place too like oh so you and Ben that's really sweet I know you don't want to be like but it's
also like a lit place and a lit time of year it's like so you don't want to be with like your crew of like I know of party girls yeah I do feel like when you go on a lit trip like it kind of
ruins the experience in the sense that like you're hungover you sleep all day like you really don't
get to experience like the place you're in if you're like partying all night like yes a couple
nights for sure but like I don't know that's how you felt about Lisbon yeah in Lisbon like I really could have done so
much more sightseeing if I wasn't violently hungover sleeping through the whole day yeah
so I think I would want to take a sober trip maybe maybe it'll be my birthday gift to myself
I'm literally loving this for you and also I feel like did Olivia go not she went to Lake Como
also gorgeous also gorgeous like I feel that's what happens it's
like there's all these gorgeous places and all of a sudden you're on a euro trip and you're on
the train I need a travel agent I can't like I feel like it's so hard yeah I feel like now you'll
get inundated yeah no I need like luxury travel agent who wants to help me and like I never answer
emails but like I'm really great to work with yeah you have to know turdy Lou know thy turdy
know thy turdy like we like big rooms big portions big air conditioners yeah in the book she's saying
like there's no air conditioning anywhere and she's like so hot the whole time and she's like a
a young healthy girl you know darn darn darn I know something I've just been struggling with. Back to the Bella Twins. Do you like the book?
I do.
You know, I like have been,
this is my second Rebecca Searle book
and like I love the way she writes
and she's Jewish and like you could just tell.
And this book, honestly, if you've lost your mom,
I wouldn't read this book.
It's so triggering.
Like it just really like highlights
like how important moms are
and like no matter how old moms are and like how no matter
how old you get like you love your mom and you're so lost without your mom.
And honestly like I find myself getting emotional about it and I feel like if you have lost
your mom like it will destroy you honestly.
Like I feel that way.
So that would be my trigger warning.
But like Rebecca Searle's thing is magical realism and it's like both of the books that
I've read the thing that I hate about the book is the magical realism.
Yeah. But the book doesn't exist without it.
I didn't realize there was a little bit in this one.
Yeah.
The first one isn't so magical.
No, it's not.
Realistic.
It could be explained away.
This one can't.
Yeah.
I'm not into magical realism.
I live life in reality.
I can do a little.
I don't like it.
I can do it sometimes. That was like that book you recommended to me that i fucking hated but the girl who like burst into pieces uh unfortunate importance of
beauty the unfortunate importance of beauty amazing book so good but you liked magical
realism with nothing to see here i did but that was because it was like funny yeah unfortunate
importance was so funny so bad i might have to read it again so
was that our fourth or fifth story fourth oh are you ready for our fifth i am because we also got
to do your toasters right right right tom schwartz was spotted filming winter house season three amid
scandival oh man yeah i thought this was interesting tom schwartz was spotted filming winter house
season three in steamboat springs colorado despite being in hot water for allegedly having prior knowledge
of Tom Sandoval's affair.
I don't think he's in hot water over that.
I think it's just like this.
You made your bed with Tom Sandoval, so you're part of Sandoval.
You are who you like associate with.
Yeah, and I just don't think that,
I think he probably knew about it for the last few weeks,
but I don't think he's known for seven months
and the Raquel thing with him was a cover.
Not at all. No, me neither. I don't know what his real options were when he found out other than
to be loyal to his friends so I'm not mad at him for that he's not a man with a backbone he's not
the one who's gonna like blow it up and be like do the right thing I'm not mad at him for that I'm
not mad at him for anything in particular I just think he's the worst yeah agreed and now it's like
everything else that he's done that was like borderline over the last few years it all and because of how much
he allowed Tom Sandoval to influence and ruin his life it's like you're a fucking moron and
schmuck and you lay with dogs and you get fleas motherfucker this is who you put your whole stock
in and look good look at who he is good yeah good because the way the one you got also from our conversation yesterday
about summer house I'm like now thinking like I feel like winter house is even more unnecessary
like when summer house was like popping off with like so much drama so many couples like
yeah give us winter house but now like summer house is like barely hanging on like being half
decent I really don't feel like they need winter house yeah also winter house was born out of
covid when they needed show ideas.
And they, like, couldn't film.
And so it was just, like, get these people quarantined in a house and film something.
100%.
But they made it a little more interesting because it's cast members from all different Bravo shows.
So, like, now you have Tom Schwartz.
Sandoval was supposed to be on the show before Scandaval.
Why would he be on the show, though?
He's old and, like, married.
Well, he was because like
the you know they put so much stock in Tom Tom I know I get it in the Toms and like Bravo
people love them Schwartz is another Kyle like an older Tom Sandoval Sandoval so sorry excuse me
is another Kyle like a someone who's too old who's taken doesn't really contribute to like
the young party llicious vibe.
Yeah, well, I remember a year or two ago,
they wanted Tom Sandoval and Tom Schwartz to go on Winterhouse.
And it was like, Tom Schwartz is married.
Right.
And they want to go without their wives.
Like, what?
So weird.
So weird.
But now Tom Schwartz is single.
He's been single for maybe a year at this point.
Like, I'm fine with him going on Winterhouse
and because he has all this drama going on,
like it's a pretty good call.
Also Brian Benny from Family Karma is gonna be on it
as well as they were spotted having a meal
at Timber and Torch.
It was Schwartz, Brian,
and a former Winterhouse cast member, Corey Kiefer.
And then it was also stated that Kyle and Danielle were there having lunch
with them too so it's going to be the old crew but then what I found interesting is Southern
Charm is currently filming which means Austin and Craig probably can't go uh-huh is Paige gonna go
without Craig that sounds miserable it sounds miserable but people love Paige I think yeah
she'll be there yeah you know she's been very quiet this season her and Ciara yeah they they have been but
like they're just like doing their girly thing yeah so I feel like Winter House could be good
as like this like amalgamation of Bravo stars but they've got to be single they gotta be single
and honestly Ashley Darby should go Ashley Darby oh my god i know like the real housewives are like
kind of like the older generation and these are like the younger shows but like kyle's 40
kyle's 40 and ashley darby's like young yeah she should go and she's single and she already
dated luke yeah i feel like tom schwartz except now he's kind of tainted but before that like i
feel like he could have met someone on like him and that girl um Sammy yeah she's so cute Sam they could
have been cute yeah who said they wanted to go out with Tom Schwartz Taylor Taylor but they're
filming Southern Charm they're filming Southern Charm and did you hear the report that um the
rumor that Austin hooked up with Taylor Shep's ex I saw it not looking very credible but when I
think about it I could see it.
I'm kind of here for it.
There were such good friends on the show.
I feel like it would have happened in a natural way.
Like Austin was always really there for her.
She's such a sweet girl.
Shep was so bad to her.
So terrible.
She deserves true love.
And Austin's always looking for a relationship.
And like,
maybe this is the one for him.
I would ship as long as they went about in a kosher manner,
which we know that they did.
The way I'm like still holding out hope for Austin and Chelsea.
Oh my God.
Chelsea is like so moved on.
No, I know.
But like they were perfect for each other.
What's so crazy is you think of Austin and like all these girls.
And that's my issue with Austin is like whenever he's with someone,
he acts like they're his wife.
And like Sierra, he's so committed.
No, Madison LaGroix.
Oh yeah.
They were literally like living
together and now it's like done and dusted same with chelsea and now like sierra and lindsey or
whatever and that's why i kind of don't want taylor to get involved with him but like eventually he
has to settle down you would think but he like weirdly likes being settled in a relationship
but like doesn't want to get married i I don't get it. Right, right.
Right.
What was the story?
Tom Schwartz going on Winter House.
Cute.
Cute.
Yeah.
I'm still probably not going to watch
because I feel like if I'm not watching Summer House,
well, actually I'm watching Summer House,
but like it's just a lot.
I agree.
And if Paige and Craig aren't on it together,
no thank you.
Agreed.
Because that's really like the only place we get them together all the time I know and they're really great together
so not for me but I hope he you know makes an interesting relationship happen for himself
something something um well those are the past five you definitely needed to know all of them
um and we're not done yet because it's Wednesday where we do our advice segment called Dear Toasters.
You guys write in to us
and Jax and I do our best
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No.
So, no, no.
It's not toxic.
It's not.
I mean, it's all about perspective.
It's tough love.
It's tough love.
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before, but I got
two more.
Ready?
Okay.
Hey, Jax, Letcher, Bryce, and Strice. First off- I got, I got two more. Ready? Okay. Hey,
Jack's,
Lester,
Bryce and strice.
First off,
those boys terribly love the pod.
You guys are doing the Lord's work.
I'm in need of a little help in December.
My husband and I moved 2000 miles across the country to a new city where we
literally knew nobody.
It was the best decision of my life.
However,
my husband still has no friends.
It's been really forward. I've been really fortunate to
meet a few other women through various Facebook groups and stuff, but he has nobody. I'm starting
to get exhausted being the only one he knows in the area. Every time I bring it up, he says it's
different for guys and that he's just going to join an intramural sports team in March,
but he def seems timid. He hasn't made much of an effort to meet anyone and I'm growing concerned.
Should I be worried? How do I tell him he needs friends besides me without making him feel like a loser?
For the record, he has always been a quiet guy,
but I'm still just kind of over being the only person he has a relationship with outside of work.
Please send my husband a friend.
Love a toaster who wants an evening to herself without her husband.
I feel that.
I feel like sometimes, you know, the man is more social.
Sometimes both are very social.
But a lot of times, like, it's the women who are making friends and I just wonder if like those friends that
you've made through Facebook groups have husbands do they have husbands couples dinner double dates
like that's a really easy way to get him out there but it also just sounds like having a social life
like isn't very important to him but I do think having a social life is important to having like
a balanced life life and even if it's just like one
friend that he makes like one person that he finds that he connects with like that would be enough
for him to know so I think unfortunately like most things for us women like you're gonna have to do
everything up the mantle and literally make friends for your husband right and she wants to be
proactive so honestly what Jackie said is the perfect call like odds are a lot of the women
that you've met have partners and go out to dinner and
like, just hopefully, you know, one of them plays golf.
Like, yeah.
Find a common ground.
Yeah.
Where one of them like does video games or whatever your husband likes to do.
Right.
All it takes is one intramural sports league actually sounds really good.
Yeah.
Since he is timid, like, sorry to give you more work, but maybe you could go with him
and just like make sure he's putting himself out there
and not just saying he's going to do something.
So, unfortunately, it's more work for you.
Yeah, no, of course.
But she did write in, like, asking for things she could do.
So I think she's open to, like, having to put this,
another problem on her back.
But I also think it's a situation where it's, like,
you do the work now and the payoff means nights out for you
going forward like yeah that he has a friend and it could be years worth of payoff for a couple
months worth of finding friends for your husband but you know what that's just life like you get
out what you put in yeah and this sounds like a worthy cause especially since like you love where
you live he does and you love your husband you want want him to have a life outside of you. He needs a friend to complain about you two.
Right.
No, that's called living.
It's healthy.
It's healthy.
So yeah, Jackie's right.
Double date, perfection.
Perfect place to start.
And then stay on top of him about like joining that intramural league and like, oh, I'll
come with you.
Hey, babe.
Like stay on top of that.
But you also can do a lot with the double dates.
Yeah.
That's like easy, low-hanging fruit and fun for you because you get to be with your galley.
Right.
Everybody wins.
All right.
Final one.
Dear Jackson Claude.
Jax, congrats on baby number two.
Claudia, Portugal looked like the trip of a lifetime.
I write to you a desperate woman.
My husband has recently become obsessed with baths.
Long, long baths.
For background, we have two kids,
five years and four months old. We both work full time. His job requires him to be outside in the
cold, in the Utah winter. I work from home. Needless to say, we're both very busy people.
Lately, my husband has been taking these long baths at the most inopportune times. While I'm
trying to cook dinner, put the kids to bed, et to top it off he always leaves the bathroom a mess and we only
have one tub he occupies it when the kids need their bath now we all need a little me time but
it feels like he's trying to skip out on chores and kid duty how do I address this without sounding
like a nagging controlling wife that is tough because that's like kind of that's that's like
actually my mission in life,
like how to communicate things without coming off as like a bitch wife.
But sometimes like you just have to.
And this is so clearly like him avoiding responsibility.
Unacceptable.
Honestly, cut the water supply in the house off.
Like that's disgusting.
No, this is so unacceptable.
I'm sorry.
There's no me time until the kids are all asleep.
Yeah. Like the idea that he's luxuriating in the bath while you're cooking and trying to get the kids down like no no no and you know what like it's it's
the stereotype for a reason be a nagging bitch wife like someone oh my god that's so true if he
doesn't listen to you call his mother like this cannot go on Jackie that's so true it's a stereotype
for a reason like we're always having to be bitch be made it be true right like if you maybe if
you actually like had a life that you cared about you would know what it's like yeah like we but
that's so true it's a stereotype for a reason like you just blew my mind we don't do it because
like i'm a nag i don't nag you i don't know like right i'm not a naggy bitch in my regular life
nagging no i wouldn't say like naggy is part of my
personality. In fact I'm quite the opposite. I will actually do as much as I physically can by
myself in order to not ask for help but like still I'm a nagging bitch wife. Oh my god. And guess
what? Right it's you know what? It's born out of necessity. Guess what Charity Lou? I'm proud. What?
You know what? Same. Yeah. I'm a proud bitch naggy wife yeah and to the point when like
I say do something you're gonna fucking do it oh my god I'm proud yeah proud I think we need to
turn this on its head it's like don't be ashamed to nag we need to take our power back yeah oh the
house looks great and the kids are alive and well it's because I'm a bitch naggy wife you're so right
yeah oh oh you like this this comforter yeah I'm a bitch naggy wife yeah oh oh the kids made it to
school today yeah it's because I'm a bitch naggy wife and that's the only way things are gonna get
done around here by the way I'm such a bitch naggy wife and like I don't even have kids I'm gonna get so much worse it's crazy like and you think like the in the
increase in bitch nagginess would result in an increase in Ben's productivity and therefore like
the nagging would go down no but you have a you're dealing with a special situation with Ben should
we talk about the beans we should because people need to know what you are up against
and why your naggy level is so high
because his incompetence level is
what you guys have never seen before in your lives.
You guys, I had the experience of a lifetime on Wednesday.
I can't even put into words.
Every time Ben does something like kind of gross
or just like lazy,
I'm always blown away.
And here are some examples of things that are just like standard Ben.
Uses a knife because he cooks a lot and which is really nice.
Thank you for cooking.
And puts the knife back in the wooden knife container with food on it.
So now there's like food that lives in the knife container.
All the time.
Uses half an avocado because that's what the recipe calls for.
Leaves the other half of an avocado on the counter.
When he's staying at my house and Zach and I have gone on vacation
and they're locking up the house after me.
I came home and there was an avocado on my counter.
Toenail?
Toenail is extreme.
Yeah.
So every now and then we'll do something extreme.
So I'm making dinner the other night and I go into
my cabinet where I keep my canned goods you know beans and such for chili and I see this can of
chili that's not beans sorry can of beans excuse me that's not fully sealed it's not open all the
way but like that you know the the soda can flicker thing has been like lifted a little and
there's an opening in the can I'm like has this open can of beans been sitting out now my next
mistake wasn't just like not throwing it out but I had to see what was inside and I was thinking of
the last time Ben made chili which I was talking about in the podcast you were so proud I was so
proud right before Ben went to LA so what was that that? A month ago? Two weeks, two, three weeks. Three weeks.
Three weeks this open can of beans. Three weeks ago you were romanticizing your life and here's
the price you have to pay. Three weeks ago Ben opened a can of beans partially and left it in
the cabinet. I should have just tossed it like I knew it was going to be gross but I did open it
only because like if I had to experience it so did Ben when I tell you I opened up the can
and I physically leapt backwards I've never seen mold like that in my fucking life it was green it
was yellow it was brown it was blue it was all the colors of a rainbow it I didn't even I didn't
even know how to dispose of it but I did take some very high quality photos. You know what? Maybe I'll post them on my Instagram if you guys are interested.
Just because like, if I needed Ben to see it, I needed, then I was like, how do I dispose of this?
I can't just toss it in the trash. Like that's disgusting. It'll like spill out. I put it in a
Ziploc bag and then put the Ziploc bag in the trash and took the trash out. It was so next level inhumane.
That's what I'm living with.
And that's, hi, I'm Claudia and I'm a bitch naggy wife. Because it's like, not only do you need to nag your husband,
Ben, clean up the kitchen.
Ben, do the dishes.
Ben, put the beans away.
That's the level of minutiae you need to get to
or else things like this happen.
Right.
Like I have to be so controlling
in order just to stop a mold infestation in my home I told you you should press charges against
him for emotional distress he deserves to be arrested and to pay for his crimes like I'm not
even kidding like how do we make this man pay for what he did I don't know and like oh and by the
way he came home and I didn't even I didn't send the pictures I wanted to see him in person so when he came home he came home late he
had a long day he made himself a sandwich he comes and sits on the next to the bed I'm like oh I want
to show you something and I I'm like do you know you left a can of beans open in the cabinet for a
few weeks he's like I did oh my god I'm so sorry I'm like yeah and I had to dispose of it and I saw
what was inside and I showed him the pictures and he gets up he's like ew don't show me that I'm eating I'm like you're eating I had to see it in fucking
person bitch you're being sensitive ew don't show me that can you believe like literally burns down
the house I don't want to see it oh my god so sensitive what's so crazy about this crime is he
knew he was leaving town the next day because I could see how in the world Ben is like I use beans all the time I'll use them for my lunch tomorrow you should still put
them in the fridge but maybe you could say he really thought he was about to use them again
but he knew he was going out of town and he left them there like that in the pantry no
and when we go out of town I do I have like a whole routine like take the trash out and literally we
were leaving for Lisbon and like I did my whole routine I clog I close all the drains like I do a million things I took the trash out as I'm
leaving I find like a wrapper something plastic I go to put it in the trash in the kitchen there's
an avocado sitting in there in the kitchen like in the kitchen in the kitchen trash I'm like I
just took this out so there was no smelly food that we come back a big smelly garbage I'm like
why is there an avocado in here and he thinks I'm so crazy i'm like i'm not crazy i know because it's like my bitch naggy wife yelled at me for throwing
away an avocado that's how he tells it to his friends yep yep but it's like after what you
just heard i side with dirty lou i stand with dirty lou as we all should at all times this is This is egregious. So anyways, they made us this way.
Yep.
We are byproducts of our environment.
And I will stop being a bitch nag when things get done without me asking.
I will stop being a bitch nag when there are things that don't need to be nagged on.
Yeah.
It's so simple.
So simple.
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