The Toast - Namesake with Ben Soffer: Friday, May 29th, 2026

Episode Date: May 29, 2026

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It's Jackson, Claude and every show the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off, Swirley. It's the Toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast. Happy Friday. Today is a very special and different day here at The Toast. One, I did the intro and I can intro all day. And two, I have a very special guest co-host joining me today who goes by the name of Lish. It was a beautiful intro.

Thank you. You had a great vibrato. If I'm being like Claudia today, I have to tell you to come closer to my. Really close. I don't think you're close enough. You don't? I'm just saying, like, especially somebody who like is, I don't know, you don't want to be too close to things.

Do you know how many people have been close to your mic? I know. I know. I know. It's okay. I appreciate that you're aware that I don't want to be too close to things. Yeah. Yeah, I know.

That's why I stopped giving you hugs in 2019. That's great. I didn't even notice. Yeah. No, I know. I would love to, though. Okay. You let me know when you're ready to receive a hug.

I'll let you know. But no that. Sometimes if I haven't seen you in a long period of time. But know that I'm conscious. Like I gave you a hug when I came to New York, right? You did. But know that I, anytime I walk into a room, I'm there to give you a hug.

But I am consciously saying, you know, it's okay, Ben. She knows that you would give her a hug. Okay. Let me ask you something. Like, do you think every time you see me, like we're supposed to hug? Yes. Like, so this morning when we're, when I... I would have loved to have given you a hug.

I would have loved to have given you a hug. Maybe even a kiss on the head. It didn't even cross my mind. A light kiss on the head. It didn't cross my mind. Well, as long as the producer says we can hear him good. Can you hear me? I don't have to do this.

I'm going to trust that you know. This sounds good. This is what I do. I'm going to trust that you know your volumes because you're a professional. And by the way, he can always raise my volumes. But he raises me already. No, I'm saying in post, they can raise my individual volume. Yeah, they do.

So even if it's over here or if it's over here, I don't have to, it's not an ice cream cone. I really hope Claudi has not watching. I hope Claudi is not watching this. She's definitely watching this. She's watching this for tips. Hey, Claude, we miss you. Claudia's out sick today. And while, like, I'm sad to not be with my sister, who I love and adore and who I'm so

sempatica with. I'm actually, like, excited for a little lish on the dish. It's fun. Dishin with dish. Yeah, Dishing with Lish. We have a lot to talk about today. The stories are sort of, like, things that we talk about often, but I'm excited to get your take. Great.

Fresh perspective. And also, today's, like, a very exciting day because we have a new nephew. We do. We do. We do. Oh, we said that there was a boy. Okay. Yeah, well, she posted a blue heart. There was the blue heart.

I was thinking that. It's just like... Subtle, but yeah. Yeah, yeah, okay. And then Shapiro wrote like nine big hearts, blue hearts. So I was like, okay, we're drilling it in. It's a boy, new nephew. And wow. New nephew just dropped.

Mazaltov. Yeah. He's so cute. We're so happy for live. Like another surprise secret Kylie Jenner pregnancy. It's really so cool that she does that. I know. It's just like a mic drop, but it's a baby.

Yeah. You know, just like the baby just like is here. I know. It's very exciting. We will get her on the. a Patreon to tell us her truth whenever she's ready. So just know, like, if you're looking for her story, like we're gonna get the exclusive on Patreon,

but mom and babe are doing well and we're all just like so excited. And also like, not to make it about us, but like- We get a baby. No, and like we kept the secret. Totally. And it's- You think we're a bunch of like big mouth yentas, but like we can keep a secret.

I kept the secret too well to the point that every time I saw her, I forgot that she was pregnant. Yeah. Like it's like because she told no one and we just didn't talk about it, every time I saw her, her, I was reminded that she was pregnant and I was excited again. Yeah, and it's funny because, like, she didn't share it publicly, but, like, in our

personal life, like, everybody, like, knew and friends and this and that, but, like, people would ask me, like, is she having a boy or girl? I'm like, I don't know that I can say, but meanwhile, she was telling, like, she was, you know, living her life freely and telling everyone, but I'm like, I'm not going to be the one. Can people stop, by the way? This is very important. Can people stop putting me in a position to tell you somebody else's business? Stop asking me the gender of somebody else's baby. Because I'm put in a terrible spot. You know I know, but you also wouldn't be asking me

if you thought there was appropriate for me to tell you. You would be asking them. Well, I just say. But you're circumventing. You think you're doing something sneaky. Yeah. But you're not. You're just making me feel like shit.

Does that make sense? I'm sorry you're struggling so with it. I just say I'm not sure if she's sharing. I forget. You can lie like that if you want to. No, no. I wasn't sure. I wasn't sure.

I wasn't sure if she would choose. Oh, that's good. Yeah. Put it back on her. Yeah, I was like, you know what? I actually don't know if she's sharing the gender. I don't know if she's sharing. Not saying I don't know if I want to share.

I'm going to steal that. I mean, it's like basics. That's really fucking good. That's really good. I don't know if she's sharing. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know if she's sharing.

I know I'm not because I'm not here to get in trouble. No, no. But I don't know if she's sharing. You should ask her. I'm a vault of it. information. But I hope Olivia is watching today because the show is so new mama friendly. I feel like a lot of people become toasters like in their postpartum era when it's like quiet. You want a little like adult companionship. So Olivia, I hope you enjoy the show. Yolito. Do you know Yolito? No, but she sounds wonderful. I'll tell you Yolito. It's actually a funny story. We told it on this toast, but it's really funny. When we were playing Mahjong the other day, you were playing with us. Which by the way, you might have actually been there for Yolito. Lo-key. I won a lot. Yeah, you're good when you're not holding up the game. by the way, I hold up the game because I need to strategize.

You guys are so fucking quick. Like, I don't even know how you plan. You actually, you're a different story. Claudia is so fast. What's my story? You, like, you're a little slow, but, sorry, a little fast. A little fast. Okay.

Claudia is very fast. You're fast, but I do think that you, like, strategically look. Sometimes I don't even think she looks. Yeah. Interesting. So fast. So, sometimes I get to a spot, like, especially when I'm playing, like, certain hands where you can, like, keep changing hands based on what's coming and, like.

That's what I try to do. Yeah. But other times I'm playing a hand, I'm locked in. You know, I'm picking up all threes and threes only. And if you're locked in, then you can move fast. But if you're straddling two positions. You never lock it. Because I'm always straddling positions.

Well, like, sometimes you don't need to straddle. Like, if you're playing the wins. You have to see my cards. I don't get, I don't get wins. But anyways, we were playing Majong and Claudia started talking about Ruby's belly button. And she was like, is this weird, blah, blah, blah. And Olivia goes, Yolito. What does that mean?

I wasn't there. Like, Yolo? Like, oh, that is so Olivia. Oh my God, Yolito. That is so Olivia. That is the funniest thing I've ever heard, Yolito. It's so, Olivia. Yolito.

Like, Ruby's having value out in Schmutz, Yolito. Yolito. And he doesn't have schmutz. My Ruby is perfect. That's what Claudia was saying, but it was just like, Yolito. Yolito. Oh my God, Olivia, you are truly sick. You are.

She is. You're one of one. One of one. Yolito. One of one. You like that, right? All for one. Yeah, all for one.

We had some fun stuff. during this week, but we'll just leave it at that. It's just like, we're just like, I don't know, sneaking around. Secret Project after Secret Project. It's sneaky, dude. We're so sneaky, but the thing is, it's like, I don't, I'm not sneaky for a sneaky sake. I just like, you have to, like, work in the dark and shows up in the light, you know?

Oh, yeah. Like Olivia. Let's all be like Olivia during pregnancy. Yeah. Let's stop announcing that we're starting something and start just dropping that show. And just be like, bam. Because every time you tell me that you're starting something, I don't believe you anymore because you started it and then you never finished it, Jackie.

Me? I never saw it at the end. No, not you. I'm like, okay. Not you. Yeah. The people. The royal you.

The world. Yeah. The world loves to celebrate a start. I agree. They love a party for a start. I agree. They love a podcast launch party. Oh my God.

You have an issue with podcast launch parties as well. Obviously. How about you make it? Wait, who are you thinking about? Just in general. I'm not thinking of one in particular, but I remember reading a statistic that 99 percent of podcasts. Don't make it past the first episode. So how about you have a party like you guys do on the years for your six year? That are important. We only had a party for the sixth year. Yeah. Good guys. Good guys.

No party. We had no party. We had a party for one year because that was like a major milestone. It also wasn't really one year. It was like two years of podcasting. But no, like the fact that we got our show off the ground to a place of success. I'm saying it was breath plus toast equals new party. But when we did the toast one year party. Yes. We had been podcasting for two years, including the breath, but the toast had been a year. The breath was a year. Yeah, less. What the fuck? Less than a year. You're lying. No. The breath feels like it was like a decade. The breath was less than a year. The totality of the breath is like a Disney Channel show. Do you ever look back? Yes. What? Liza McGuire was two seasons. Yes. Like, what are you even talking about? I watched you

from 1995 to 2005. The Breath was a Disney Channel show. It was. It was a short run. It was less than a year. That's insane. All that drama for less than a year. You guys are really sick. Not you. You guys.

The world. I'm saying you. You is the world. You guys are really fucking sick. But not you. Not you. Not you. Not you.

Dear reader. Maybe you. Not you. Only you are watching. Not you. Maybe you adjacent. But not you. I agree.

I understand what you're saying. Less than a year. Less than a year. So it's, and hindsight, it's a great. not that much time wasted. It's fantastic. But at the time, it felt like our whole lives. Yeah, it felt like everything.

But it was less than a year, and it led to just, like, such a triumphant return. Oh, yeah. But a return on after a year. Less than a year. What was the return? Didn't even start. I know.

You technically threw a party. I do feel like they cut us up at our knees, like before we really got started. And in hindsight, like, thank you. Because imagine you build this monstrosity. Oh, my God. A gift. Such a gift. Such a gift. We were able to build the monstrosity on our own terms. Hashem moves in mysterious ways. Yeah. Yeah. Really mysterious, but. Power to be. B.H.

Should I make B.H. M.H. Just a hat that says B.H. You like that? You know how Modi makes Mosheach energy merch? M.E. So what does it say? Baruch Hashem. B.H. Okay. Pretty cool, right? Are you just like making rogue merch? I've made rogue merch before. You have. So I'm asking, are you doing it again? I'm not sure. I don't even know why I make rogue merch. You love to make rogue merch. Yeah, I do. I do. My keto season merch was freaking fire. Yeah, it was, it was a moment in time. It was a moment in time. You had to be there. You really did. You really did. Supreme logos and all. But I guess if you like start saying BH on the good guys, you can make it part. Okay. So you don't listen. Yeah, we say it ever yet. No, I don't listen to the toast. I do sometimes. I also come on it.

You want to come on good guys? I think I've been on a couple times. Yeah, you want to come on again. Sure. Okay, today? Today? Today? No, Monday. Monday? think about it. Okay, that's a no. No, it's not a no. I have to, like, look at my calendar. Your calendar's open. What time do you guys record?

Where do you record? We record here. We record here, okay. Yeah. So I guess, like, at one o'clock. Oh, could you? You'd have to, we'd go to lunch. No, I'd think you'd a lunch.

We'd have a nice time. I'd get a manicure. Get a manicure lunch. Nothing about it. When do I have to let you know by? Today. Because it's Friday for Monday. Are you, like,

pinched on a guest for Monday? No, I think we have, we, 90% of the show is not guests. Got it. have the occasional guests. I actually think we have a guest on Monday. Oh, so I'm getting in the boot. No, no, there's two. We do two. Um, we bulk. Oh, bulk. Batch. Batch. Batch. Batch, batch is the word, not bulk. Batch. You certainly bulk. Do I have on Monday? Yeah, we're bulky. We're bulky. On Monday, I don't remember. They'll be so honored. You should really watch the Mori Povich episode. I should.

Oh, Mori's a king. You're kind, you are Mori. You think so? Yeah, just like, I think Mori and I, like, have a similar energy. He's just like a Palm Beach, like, cool house in Montana. You will be, you want to be more. That's goals for me. Yeah. Moriovich is legit, super cool. That's one of the many episodes.

I think we had Mori on once. You did. We did. Actually, I don't know. Or was it Dr. Drew. I think it was Dr. Drew. You think? No, I don't think you had the great Mori.

Mori's like Mori. I think it was Mori. You had the great Mori Povitch? Yeah. Yeah, maybe. You also had Rob Grover. It was over Zoom. Did you have Rob Grunkowski on the breath?

On the breath. Yeah, that was pretty cool. Breath got cool gas. Really cool. Yeah. I mean, Breaths studio. Woof. Yeah.

Breath spent every penny it made. More than the pennies it made. Breath made zero pennies. Yeah. That was like the point. Yeah. And we had plenty of pennies. Plenty of pennies.

That was the other point. Yeah. Wow. What a time to be alive. Yeah. What a time to be alive. Well. Well, we'll get into the stories.

But other than that, like, what's new with you? How are the good guys. How's Romeo? Good guys are great. Romeo's with my parents, miss him dearly while we're down here. He just got a fresh-ass haircut, and everybody's talking about it. Everybody's talking about it. Yeah, my dad, the FaceTime me.

Look at Romeo. My sister, FaceTime me and my mom face-time me. All of them, look at Romeo. I'm like I saw Romeo. Do you miss him? I do. I do. He's a really good sweet boy.

I love Mr. Romice stuff. I really do. And my Knicks, we can talk about my Knicks. My Knicks, when do they play again? So the Knicks play Wednesday. Are you going? I have secured tickets. So the first two games are in Oklahoma City or in San Antonio.

We still don't know? We still don't know. It's game seven. Oh, my God. They made it, by the way. It's so amazing. The Knicks keep sweeping these teams, and these teams are just kicking the shit out of each other. So the Knicks get to rest.

Ten days, eight days, something like that. I have secured tickets to the Oklahoma City Thunder game, should they win. I have booked a flight to Oklahoma City, should they win. So are we rooting for Oklahoma City at this point? I think so. But Fulia said there's more direct flights to San Francisco. Antonio. There's no direct flights from Florida to San Antonio. Oh. There would be a direct flight from New York, but I'm not there. They're all indirect. What about to Oklahoma City? All indirect.

So there's no direct flight anywhere. No, anywhere. Well, knowing you, you'll find a ride on a plane. No, I'm in indirect flights. I booked. I booked. But I'm sure, I'm sure something will materialize. It's possible. Something could materialize. Something good materialize. I should do that. You should. Oh. I'm sure like everyone. Mr. Thompson over here. So, yeah, I think we're rooting for the Thunder. The Knicks. Feel the Thunder.

Do you know that the Knicks are like the best team in playoff history? No. We've won 11 straight games. We've swept the last two series 4-0-4-0. So they're actually like the overdog in this situation. They're the best team in the NBA. Whether people give them their credit. So they're the overdog.

The ones to beat. They really are. Like technically the Thunder and the Spurs were both better. Their records were better in the regular season. The Spurs, the Knicks, the Knicks are the best team. They're beating teams by 22 points a game on average. We're kicking the shit out of people. And I don't even, I don't really even know how to deal with it.

Yeah. Like you grew up sort of a Knicks fan. You at least were aware. The Knicks were awful. Yeah. Forever. Forever. Yeah.

My entire life they've been awful, except for like a couple, a handful of seasons where they were not, like. Not awful. Yeah. And now they're amazing. Yeah. Amazing. How do you feel about Kylie and Timothy? I love them.

I love them. And I fucking hate Spike Lee. I fucking hate him. I used to love him. And then he showed up, do you know this story? He showed up to the NBA All-Star game, Sat for Rund Ro, put on a Palestinian pin. Danny, the Avija, I think is his last name. It was his first All-Star game.

He's from Israel. And it was just, it was literally in direct. protest of an Israeli player of an Israeli player in the NBA all stream the NBA all stream what are you doing with this pin yeah so people may have forgotten that no I haven't no I don't forget and mr. shallame is my new Spikeley yeah shows up they're so happy to be there there Kylie's just slinging shots she's just like drunk at all these games having such a great time and Ben Stiller he's I mean he all like they showed comparative pictures. He was at the last time we were in the finals, he was there,

courtside. This is a lifelong Knicks fan. Yeah. Who really cares. Yeah. See, I love, I love Timothy and Kylie. Is there like a group chat? Brunson boys. No, not with your, like with your celebrity Knicks fans friends. You need to start one. No. I'm O.G. Timothy. These are my boys. I don't know Timmy. I don't know. He should know me. I don't know Timmy. I feel like you can know each other. We should. Yeah. He's just like probably 30. Is he 30? He's R age.

He's probably R age. Our age from Manhattan. I'm surprised Josh doesn't know him. I feel like they like have parallel lives. Yeah. Like performing art school in the city. Josh is like a little bit older than Timothy, but there's no reason we don't know him. Yeah.

What a great actor. Fun fact, the only movie I've seen him in is Bob Dylan. The only movie I've seen him in is Interstellar. Apparently Dune is sick. Not for me. I know. Do you see Interstellar? No.

What's it about? Space. Cool. And it's like Timothy's favorite movie ever. Is he good? So yeah, he plays Matthew Connehy's son. So he's not like the main character. It's one of his earlier works.

And it's crazy that it's his favorite movie ever. He like Kylie rented out IMAX to take him to go see it. He's seen it like a hundred times. And he's in it. Like it's just kind of weird. No, but it's like I think he's just like honored to be in this great movie. That makes sense. Because the movie's like he's.

supporting character. Yeah, yeah. Got it, okay. So imagine, like, you wound up, like, being in a movie and it wound up to be, like, the best movie that you love so much. Yeah, wow, okay, all right. Yeah.

I'm going to put interstellar, it's going to be at the... Have you seen Italian job? Yes, great movie. I keep telling Claudia has to watch it. She would love it. She would. She loves it. Kingsman.

Yes, yes. She loves Kingsmen. So good. Yeah, I keep telling her to watch Italian job. She also hasn't seen any of the Oceans movies. Ocean's 11. Have you? I have.

Okay, but that's like Italian job. It is very similar. Except with George Clooney. It is, it is. What do you mean? Like, it is, sure. She's actually seen the female-led oceans. Have you seen Batman?

The Dark Night Rises. I think I did. That trilogy. The way that I've begged that woman, like the way that I have to fucking beg her to watch good TV while I'm over here watching the Summer House reunion. I understand why she doesn't want to watch Batman. Because I recommended it.

No. If you recommended it, she'd watch it. I wouldn't recommend it. I think you should. I don't think so. That way she watches it. I don't like it. It's like it.

No? Like I saw it, it didn't like resonate with me. Literally Heath Ledger died for that movie. And that's really sad. It was the great, it's so unbelievably amazing. I'm obsessed with that trilogy. It missed me, you know. I understand.

I understand. But we keep like, you know, mentioning a couple of the key topics of today's episode. So I think we should get into the stories. Yes, we should. You know, so we can like continue to weave in and out. We're going to talk Summer House, right? We're going to talk Summer House. That shit is.

nuts. Without further... Have you guys spoken Summerhouse yet? Yeah. Since the reunion? Yeah, but like there's a little bit more info that's come out. Oh, there's new stuff. There's some new stuff and we'll talk about your thoughts on the situation. Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty wild. So without further, a do-da-do do-d-do. It is time for the fast five stories that you do need to know. Today's episode of The Toast is brought to you by Resort Pass. We love Resort Pass. It's the best way to spend a special day, a family day, or if you want to treat yourself to a little

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sets their season eight cast. So yesterday they dropped a video of the season eight cast of Love Island, including the brother of season seven islander Charlie. Oh, wow. Charlie's brother is on Love Island, and his name is Zach. Wow. So we have a running joke here at the toast about this podcast spinoff that I want to do. Claudia is doing it with me, but she's not as passionate about it as I am.

Sure, sure. And it's called namesake. and we only interview people who have like the same names as our children or members. We've expanded it to all members of our family so we could have on more guests. Got it. So it's an eight episode. No, no, you'd be surprised. And it's like, oh, oh, oh, I understand. Yeah. So like if you have the same. You can only interview Zaks. We can, no, if you have the same name as someone in our family, you can come on namesake.

But if you don't, like, Kylie, like, can't come on namesake. That's kind of cool. It is kind of cool. Like, if we wanted to do a summer house interview with someone like, it would have to be Levi. That's. That is so funny. Isn't that so funny? And exclusive. And like it's just like fresh, you know?

It's like we don't get to choose who we talk to. It's fresh. In the summer house. It's fresh. It's fresh. So like any time we're talking, Charlie Puth was actually like the originator. You should have him on good guys. He's so G.

Yeah, he is so Gigi. We should get him. And he's cool. Yeah. Big Charlie guy. Well, so Charlie Puth would come on namesake. Of course. If we're doing a Love Island recap.

King Charles could come on. King Charles. Yes, yes. Michaela Nogero, the influencer. Ah, yes, yes. It's just like, it's fun and fresh. It could, and so many Zaks. So many Zaks, so many Benz.

Are there so many Ben Platt? Well, not Ben Platt. Yeah. We wouldn't be having Ben Platt. No. No, it's unfortunate. We could have. Because I kind of went to summer camp with him.

It's unfortunate. Oh, you did? Do you know that? I don't know. We went to Israel together. Yeah. Were you friends? No.

No. And it's funny. It's actually not funny. He went to Israel. Wow. Don't tell his friends. He went to Israel. Was he happy?

Yeah, he had a great summer. He went, like, he had a great, great summer. He, we saw him at, or maybe we watched his stand-up at Radio City or something. And he tells a story about a kid named Ben outing him as gay on that trip. We were not friends. It wasn't me, and I didn't know. Was there another Ben? There were, I know another Ben.

I know another Ben that was on that fucking trip. And it was probably that. Ben. Okay. I know another Ben. Wow. Yeah, so that Ben, that was not me. That's really crazy. That was not me. So anyways. Yeah, he went to Israel. He went to Israel and loved it. And he secretly loves Israel and supports it. Probably. For sure. I mean, his brother does. He's just trying to be cool.

You know his brother? Of course I know his brother. Who's fucking obsessed with Israel. Of course I know his brother Claudia. And I like can't comprehend how those two are brothers and how they like ever get together as a family, which they do. Yeah, by the way, it's one is beholden. If we want to. get into this conversation. I would love to talk about the Platt family dynamics. One is beholden to Hollywood and Hollywood standards and thinks that... But he's not even because his dad is Mark Platt. It doesn't... There's a difference. Like, Josh is so brave in my opinion for his constant and it's also just, it's what you should do, but his constant unwavering support for Israel,

when everybody else in Hollywood seems to be getting a memo that if you want big work, If you want big opportunities and projects, you need to be on the other side of this issue. And so it doesn't matter who his dad is. It doesn't matter who his brother is. I think that he has chosen his career over something that at one point was very important to him. Or his circle has become people that are feeding him different things. That you don't, because what you think, like, he goes home and he, like, looks at pictures from his Israel trip and, like, I don't know. I just that he loves Israel.

I don't know. I just know that he. But he has to do this for his country. He grew up a staunch Zionist. Yeah. That's a fact. Yeah. Like in a Zionist community, Zionist sleepway camp.

Yeah, parents, brother, his whole family is. I'm saying, like, I went to an adjacent Ramah camp. Ramah is literally the most Zionist place in the world. Yeah. Like it is. No, of course. I think a lot of people who are like, you know. And by the way, amazing.

And that's on their people. They grew up like Zionist and they're like, I grew up like this. And it's the worst. Yeah. Like maybe your new circle's the worst. How big you make some better friends? Maybe your new circle's the worst. Have you make some better friends?

Yeah. So. Sell you down the river. Totally. Go on. That's that. Wow. Oh my.

Buddy's going to hate this episode. No, she loves talking trash about Ben Platt. It's our favorite. It's like, it's our favorite thing. I loved him too. Like, oh, by the way. And Claudia loved him. I know.

We always talk about how much we actually hate him. But then it's like, but he's like, but he's so. so talented. Oh, we love him. You can't deny his talent. It's frustrating. No, and like, I think we saw Dear Evan Hanson like five times. Claudia was obsessed with that show, that soundtrack, him, and by the way, so was I. Yeah. On the outside, always looking in, will I ever be more than I've always been? Because I'm tap, tap, tapping on the glass. Waving through a window. Oh, can anybody see? Is anybody waving back at me?

Oh, is anybody waving? Waving, waving, waving. Waving, waving. Oh, oh. Waving from Gaza into Israel. That's where they're waving. Okay, first story. What do we got?

So I had to just let you know about namesay, because it's critical. Love it. Okay. And I think it's a great idea. And like one day when my time freeze up, it's going to be my next passion launch. You got it. I'll support it.

I'll come on. So, and you know, Charlie, we love Charlie from Love Island season seven. Oh, that's right. We love Charlie. He would come on namesake. But now his brother named Zach is on Love Island this season. Who could also come on namesake. Understood.

So Love Island. A bunch of other people who can't come on namesake, except for Bryce. There's a Bryce. There is? Yeah. Oh, my God. That's so funny. Oh, so nicknames can also.

come on. Like, yeah, we can make it work if we need to, you know, and also we can find somebody somebody named Streis. He can come on. Oh, can Barbara Streisand come on? Barbara Streisand could come on. She could. There's someone on this season named sincere, um, but he couldn't come on, unfortunately. His name is sincere. His name is sincere. But it's like we could have Jesse, we could have Jesse Solomon on. Sure. Because we have like an aunt named, like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, if we really, if we really want, you know, but also let's start with. You really want to stretch. You can go in the family tree. Yeah. Same sake doesn't make sense anymore.

Let's start with a nuclear, you know? And then it gets so big and we need more guess. Like we can open it up to like cousins. You start with immediate. You start with immediate. We start with immediate. Exactly. Okay, I like it. I was going to ask you something.

We started watching Love Island while you think about that. The only season I ever watched was this past season while Claude was breastfeeding. And that was our breastfeeding show. Right. We would watch it at three in the morning, five in the morning, like 30 minutes, like as she would feed. and I got really into it. I thought it was great TV. And apparently it was not even like a good season.

You and Claudia definitely like had a really positive experience with the show. And we're in like a very like warm and loving time in your lives. Yes. And so you'll always have love for it, you know? But objectively it was not a great season. It was like very frustrating. And for those of us who had to watch it as an obligation, it was not always fun. But I'm looking forward to a new season hoping that,

This is a good one. There's also a bronze medal winning Paralympic athlete who is part of the cast. The Paralympics are so cool. I don't know if you ever watch it. Not only is it so impressive, it takes so much dedication. And they are so unbelievable at their sport. Yeah. Yeah.

That's all. No, it's amazing. So we'll be seeing Beatriz on this season, and it premieres on June 2nd. Amazing. So very soon. Okay. Any minute now. All right.

I will be tuning in. I will be tuning in. I will be tuning in. That's Sunday night. Oh, no, Tuesday. What I wanted to ask you is, word on the street is that you've struck up a friendship with Jesse Solomon. No, we haven't.

I'm open. He seems like a great guy. He seems like he's struggling in that he needs, like, he needs family. By the way, I'm open. Jesse, you want to be friends? I'm, I thought you guys were friends. No, we're not friends. I could see you guys.

We follow each other on, on Instagram and on TikTok. Yeah, he reminds me of like my current friends. Ben Shaffer says, we are not friends. No, no, I would. I would love to be his friend. Yeah. I'm open for friendship. I feel like he needs, like, good people around him right now.

Don't you feel like he's struggling? Yeah. And by the way, as with Claudia, we would make amazing duets on these songs, Jackie. Oh, yeah. Just saying. It could be like a von Trapp family, me, Claudia and Jesse. What do you think? What about me?

You want to be in? I'm okay. Yeah, so. I want to be invited. Yeah. Well, you're invited. Yeah. You could be there.

You could be there. But yeah, no, Jesse and I are, we've never met. Yeah. I feel like you need to go to dinner. Okay. Jesse, let me know. I think that the people around him listen to The Toast. Yeah, let me know.

If you'd like to go to dinner, send me a DM. He's been circling the orbit recently, and I feel like he needs to be brought into the fold. It feels like so. He's breaking my heart. Not to jump. As a mother, you know. I see him like a son. I see him like as a son too.

Do you? No. I see him as maybe a friend. I don't see him as a son. Right. But not to jump to Summerhouse, but I really. Oh yeah. Well, our next story is Summerhouse.

So jump away. I just. I hate reality TV for the people involved when they don't know what they're getting themselves into. I have to assume that Kyle and Amanda went into it eyes wide open or I hope that they did. But the amount of the amount of divorces that come out of reality TV, it just makes you hate your spouse. Like Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, they were all married and they are all divorced, all of them. And that's not a coincidence. Like you can say, oh, it's 50% divorce rate.

Like, no, like, you end up doing things for fame that don't align with family values. And it's just, it's so sad to me. Like watching. And by the way, I have many a reason to not like Kyle Cook. Many a reason. Right. Oh, right. Many a reason.

It doesn't mean that I don't feel bad for him and her. But I do know personally that he's a bad guy. Interesting. So, yeah. More than we know? No, he was like, he was super shady towards me. Yeah. That was a really bad, like, and I'm a really nice guy.

No, it's so true. And I feel like at the time, I mean, of course, the Toasters Road for us, but like, I feel like on the show and even at the reunion, then they really like dug into like the whole like Craig thing and how it was all shady. And like when you, it really bothered me watching the reunion. I really didn't like how they like talked about the whole interaction because when you think about it, it's like Craig who is his girlfriend's girlfriend's friend is Kyle. Yeah.

And he can't do a partnership with like a different brand. That's really crazy. And without it being like Shady and he's a liar. And Craig is so nice. Yeah. Craig literally flew in to my son's bris. Yeah. He's the nicest guy ever.

Like I've never had a bad interaction with him. He's so nice. And I can speak for myself knowing that I, too, am the opposite of Shady. I'm an opening book. Right. I am a, I'll do things for you, knowing that they will come back around eventually. So this idea, this narrative that he spun that we were out to get him. that we stole information that, by the way, like, the partnership with Craig, like,

it was a great one. It's not even like the core of Spritz Society. Like, Sprit Society is this. Yeah. Sprit society is not. Skinny Sprits. Skinny Sprits. Like, it's just so, so that, like, I'm positive that Kyle is not a good guy.

Yeah. Yeah. No, I actually was starting to forget. I also in all of this now, see that. Maybe Amanda's not great either, but I'm also not going to victim blame. Like, I don't know if people have really spoken. I think that Amanda is the victim of both West and Kyle. Oh, wow.

I think that West's really soft. I think that West seems to just, and I know guys like this, he seems to love bomb people. And girls have a difficult time sometimes. like understanding that he's love bombing, but he doesn't want anything to do with you formally. I know guys like that in my life. And I look at them with disgust because time after time, if the girl is leaving crying and you pretend that you don't know what you did,

it means that you need to change the way that you interact with people. So I think that he love bombed her at a time where she was very unhappy in a marriage. And I don't justify her actions. the statement my god get better PR like what are you doing yeah like that was crazy but to all of a sudden say that it's her when we've watched Kyle be just like a bad dude for a really long time a guy that just doesn't want to fucking grow up yeah a 44 year old DJ like a bad beverage entrepreneur like bad bad bad for business yeah like again with my interaction um And knowing that West has done this to many a girl, I don't know how you just blame Amanda.

No, you don't just, I don't just blame her, but it's not even that she embarked on another relationship with someone who, like, was love bombing her. And it's like that she would do that to her friend. Like, Sierra was also there for her. And every moment that West was giving her attention and like trying to be there for her, like, so was Sierra. So that you would, like, throw away a friendship like that. because like, I don't know. I agree with you on that, for sure. Yeah.

That dynamic makes Amanda guilty. But in the eyes of Kyle and in the eyes of West. If it had been Jesse Solomon, say. Yeah. If it had been like someone else in the house who's friends with Kyle and that person was there for her. Like, yeah, it would not be this conversation. You're right.

It's the betrayal of the friendship. Like Amanda has made her like brand and her whole place on the show about like girls, girl, you know, bed bugs, we're together. Fuck men. And it's like, it took you two seconds. Yeah, totally. And also she was so the hero of this story up until West Mandeball. That it's like you could have dated anyone on the planet, anyone except for one person.

So it makes you think that I don't know what. That they're in love. Yeah, no, I don't know what his game is. I don't know how he does this, but I know guys that do this. And it's almost like they have a spell on girls and they love bum the shit out of them. And then they leave them out to dry. Yeah. It's a really terrible quality in a guy.

There are only two, I guess maybe three cast members that I watch in that reunion. I'm like, oh, you are really, really, really, like you seem like a really good person. I guess four. Okay. KJ for sure. Jesse, Solomon, for sure. Even though what he did to Lexi. Who did to Lexi?

Yeah, for sure. Lexi was on for the wrong reasons. Jesse for sure. Okay. No, they're all on for the right. I love Carl. I love Carl and his now ex-wife. I love her too.

I love her too. They're hilarious. They've had like a real art. I feel like you should say like, not that there are four good people on the cast, but like four people you like? Four honest people. Honest. Oh, wait, no.

By the way, go through the cast because I'm also thinking, I'm forgetting people. Bailey? Yeah, she seems she's great, sure. Levi. Levi? There's a Levi? Sure, Levi. Okay.

Did I watch this season? The girl who's friends of Bailey. Yeah, Levi's cool. Monet, is that her name? Monet with an M. Mia. Mia.

Yeah. Love. Love. She should be at the top of this. And Ciara. Sorry. She's also great. So like what?

Okay. Okay. Okay. There's actually like three people that I don't like. Okay. I like the whole cast. I don't like West. I don't like Kyle.

Amanda. You like Amanda? I don't know. He likes Amanda. I just feel weird about it all. I feel weird about it. She was tormented by Kyle. She was tormented.

For the duration. of their marriage. Yeah. It would seem from afar. Yeah. Though now that we're getting to know a bit more of what she's capable on her personality, I would say it was a mutual torment. Yeah, but just like watching him constantly get drunk and lash out of people.

Like, that's bad. But like... If you're willing to do that in front of a camera, imagine what you're willing to do not in front of a camera. I don't, I know people say that, but I actually think like he's this... I don't think it gets worse. Like, I think that's him, you know? Do you like Kyle?

No. You might. I sense, I sense... I don't. I don't. I definitely don't. I could never even be friends with a person like that, let alone be in a relationship with them. Like it's my least favorite kind of person.

Yeah. Like drunk, annoying, won't grow up, immature, like, silly. Everything about it I hate. Yeah. But he never was not that person for even one minute that when she, from the moment she entered the relationship to when she said yes to a proposal to when she got married to him, like she was always marrying the same person. So like, yes, on year 10, he's the same person that he was at year one.

I guess it's frustrating when people like don't grow, but what made you ever think that he was going to? Yeah. I want to say one more thing on the Kyle drama, even though like I'm making this drama about myself. But I just... No, I think people want to hear your opinion. But I feel like this is interesting. Do you guys talk about stuff like this on the G-Ege? No, never.

Oh, okay. So yeah, people want to hear from you. No, we talk about complete and utter nonsense. We just like laugh and we rarely talk about anything serious, which is really fun. I had texted Kyle and it went unread. I had texted Unread? Yeah.

He never read. It had left unanswered. Okay. That's very different. Yeah. Unanswered. I had texted Kyle. Before any of this came out, this was after our dinner.

Me, him, and one of my partners, Jake, went to a dinner. You know this story, right? A little bit. But like, not really. Okay, whatever. We went to dinner the three of us. And that's like the dinner where he said that we stole his trade secrets. We both opened up about how hard beverages.

All of the trials and tribulations are trying to grow a small business. business. We then split the bill. He claimed that he paid for dinner and that we, or sorry, that we paid for, I forget what that part was. It's not important, not important, okay? Not important. We left that dinner. I was like, oh, I really like Kyle. I had first met him at a beverage conference. I thought he was a really nice guy, hardworking, whatever. And so I had texted him. I was like, you know, why don't we get the toasters, the spritzers, the summer house and lover boy fans together and throw some parties. Loverboy and Spritz Society side by side because I think they're completely different brands with different adjacent audiences. Let's do it. Never responded, which is so

So that was what your text said. Yeah. Okay. Working together. Yeah. Not at all trying. The opposite. Harmony. Harmony. And he went on that show like, shat on Craig, shot on me, said that I was a shady business person stealing his ideas. You wish like. Totally. But stealing what? What did I steal? Yeah. It's crazy. That's crazy. So yeah, I just needed to share that. Well, I'm glad we don't have to do those parties. Totally.

By the way, those would have been for him. Knowing what I know now, those would have been for fucking him. Yeah. Bringing our audience to lover boy, you wish. No. And what I said, it's like they try to make sprits out to be like seedy, whatever. Like we're like a family-owned brand, like a family, like a friendly brand. Like we're just all about like love.

Like meanwhile, that's the most toxic negative brand I've ever heard of who destroyed his relationship, his personal finances, his friendships, Hannah Burner, Craig, everyone, this brand that's just like this toxic entity. When we're over here, like, hey, come join us. The more than married. I was just to say, it's literally the polar opposite. It's, how can I hold on to as much equity as possible until I hit zero and be the king of my nothing? And we are literally not optimizing for delusion ever. You want to come and be a part of what we're building. We are trying to build together. Yeah. Like, we have, we have like, a hundred and thirty investors. Yeah. Literally. If you want to invest, you come to us.

You work with friends. He works with Shannon. We work with everyone. It's just like a lovely positive place where we're like bringing people and we want everyone to be lifted up. Whereas like lover boy has been nothing but be like this toxic force in the house. And so how you can paint us as the brand that's like shady and lies and negative. No, we're having a ball. No, it comes from a fucking liar. Yeah. It comes from a liar, which is going full circle. Why it's very, very hard for me to be team Kyle. Screw Amanda. Like, no, like, Amanda had to deal with that for so long. And that's still true.

And West is a love bomber. Yeah. And so I just think that she made a really bad choice. But she continues to make the choice. Yeah, because she's been bombed. We'll see if, like, I think that a love bomber, I guess, do they eventually settle down with someone? It doesn't feel like it's going to be her, unfortunately. I feel like it has to be otherwise, like, you know, just if he has any sort of, like, personal responsibility.

Like, because if he leaves her. and she has nothing and she has like mental health issues like it's just a disaster so i think if he's any shred of like a human being that he will stay by her side i think he's sort of like wound webed this spun this web that he can't get out of yeah i don't think he's just having fun though yeah love love bombers gonna bomb wow you love the term love bombing it's it's it's it's the accurate term interesting okay well thank you for your take oh well well the summerhouse news for today was that Summerhouse stars Kay J. and Dara have apparently broken up after a couple things on social media have a surface. They have unfollowed each other.

Why, do you know who I'm talking about? I don't know who she is. So she was the girl who like came on a couple. She stayed up by the house a little bit. I think she was like meant to be a cast member. I don't know who that is. She started dating KJ. She was like on the season.

She'll probably be on the reunion at some point. I don't know when they broke up if at the reunion they were together or not. But they started dating like this summer. Yeah. You must have missed that. Totally missed it. All I know is I'm a big fan of his. I think he's super cool and certainly wish him well in his mental health journey.

Yeah. But he seems like a great guy. Yeah. And really nice. Like he just like, I like a guy that goes on a show looking to make friends. Yeah. Not a guy going on a show that's looking to be like a hardo and have people come to them. Oh my God.

He's the opposite. We could have Ben on namesake, unfortunately. You can. Australian Ben. Yeah. He seems like a bad guy. He seems like the worst. And Bailey, like, really clocked him.

I didn't even notice all those things. Yeah, she clocked him and she... She seemed... She seemed right for all of that. Yeah, no, she sort of ended him. Like, I'm done. Yeah, he seems like a little... A little mean to women.

Yeah. Yeah. Which is a really bad... If you don't want to say anything about you, you don't want them saying that. All season he was, like, boring, like, brought nothing really, like... I was just, like, not really interested in him, but, like, nothing bad. And then it's, like... And now it sounds like...

like you're the worst. Well, now we don't want anything to do with you. Correct. Because, like, boring's not a crime, but, like, there's nothing redeeming. You know, there was nothing like, oh, well, he had a great season. Okay, so he can be mean, you know. It was a little weird. Like, why was Amanda Skinny dipping with him?

Yeah. Well, they were, like, they were, Kyle was there too. Oh, he was? Yes. Oh, so do they, do you think that they have, like, a freaky-diki? No, I feel like we were just like after hours and wedding in Europe, and it's like, let's go in the ocean. So, you know, I think it was just spur of the moment.

Okay, that makes sense. I don't think it was freaky, Diki. I think they wished, like, things were a little more interesting. I understand. You know? Okay. I think it was just like Yolito, honestly. Yolito.

It was giving Yolito. Yeah. Yolito. Wow. Okay. Yeah. Well, Yolito. So KJ and Dara have split up.

I'd like to hear more. Me too. You know, I want to know what happened there, especially because Levi was, like, alluding to the fact that, like, she thinks, like, Dara is nefarious. I'd love to know more, and I'd love to learn about who this woman is. Okay. I actually don't think you would, but okay. Okay. Today's episode of The Toast is brought to you by Reddit.

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have any more kids unless it's coming from Chloe's embryos. Wow. Okay. So Tristan went on Chloe in Wonderland. Apparently it's a great episode and he comes off pretty favorably. It's just like a nice guy who's like trying his best and a good dad. Isn't he a nice guy? I think so, but he's a fucking idiot. Yeah. But so what happened? He cheated on her? Multiple times. Once when she was like 10 months pregnant. That's really bad. I think she was like nine plus and it literally put her into labor with the stress of it. It like was such a big story and he cheated on her.

Then he smooched at Jordan Woods, the best friend of his girlfriend's little sister. That's crazy. Yeah, I forgot about that. That's bad. And then. Also bad on Jordan Woods. Of course, of course. But him too. And he's older than her.

But we've forgiven her and now she's a Nick Swag. Oh yeah, so you love her. So you love her. So you love her. So you love her. Could be. And then when Chloe was trying to have a second child with him via surrogate. And during, I don't know when the surrogate process had started and when they wanted it to start or whatever.

But it turned out, it came to light that he had fathered a child that was like, I don't know, maybe almost one years old. Like that he was hiding. He was like fighting. woman in court, but it was his child and he was hiding it from Chloe while also trying to, like, make a baby with Chloe. Like really, really bad stuff. And I think there was, like, a lot of other cheating sprinkled. Like, he's a cheater, cheater, pumpkin eater.

Yeah. Can't stop cheating. Yeah, that's tough, man. That's, that's tough, Mr. Tristan, Mr. Thompson. But I can't, I can't, I can't defend. No, so that's just what you need to know. Like, and he's third, Tristan, third trimester Thompson, as they call him. Oh, wow.

Because of him cheating on her in the third trimester. everybody like he's really gotten his punishment i feel like he he he's hated thoroughly okay but he's true and tatam's dad chloe like keeps him around like they always do they but she is so forgiving like it's actually they all are it would seem yeah yeah i don't know she's the most it's so interesting it's such a why why are they so forgiving are they more afraid of what would happen if they weren't there? Or are they just a familial, so familiar with just like family. And it's like father of children.

When it's the father of a child. Like I don't think the same rules apply for people who they. Like Taiga. What about Taiga? What about Tyga? What about him? There's no child involved. There's no child involved.

No. Not over here. Oh, okay. Okay. So then that. He's out. So it directly has to do it if there is a grandchild. Yes.

Kardashian. But I would also say the rules also applied to Lamar. But he was a husband and he was like obviously suffering. But they have they have up until a point they really like have been there for him so much. I think Chloe also just must be an amazing person. Yes, she's an amazing person. She must just be an amazing person. And I think most of us including myself could not relate to being that patient and forgiving. Yeah. Yeah. I forgot about that document. But it's not like Pete's. Did you watch the documentary? No, but like then she's like pissed about it. She wishes she never did it because like he she's on there like bearing her soul and he's on there like talking shit about her. I was going to say it was great for her because it gave me a window into how unbelievable a person she is, how she would give her last anything for somebody who treated her like ass and to save that person. But he was he felt like he had zero remorse and like made a joke at the end that he was going to go to Vegas.

that's how he closed the documentary which is like literally the whorehouse that he lived in and almost died in Vegas and he made a joke that they left in the documentary as he's leaving that he's gonna go to Vegas he almost died he was using again even when she got him into like

there's no there's no crime to being a drug addict he's a drug addict that's not his crime in my opinion his crime is is the just like cheating and whorehouse and I would assume that the using has a direct effect on that, but like, that's, that's not, in my opinion, what he's guilty of. Like, it's, but like when Chloe has nursed him back to life from the

brink of death. Totally. I think she even said, it's a horrible disease. She got a staff infection from living in the hospital and got so sick. Then, so she brings him back to life, learns to talk, learns to walk, learns to write, learns to think, learns to speak. I know. He's with him in the hospital the whole time rehabilitating him, gets him a house where she's out. And she comes into the house and he's using. I know. It's a horrible disease. And he clearly needed more rehab. He needs to live at rehab. I don't know anything about that. I just know that it's a horrible disease. And they're they're not together. And you can't be with somebody like that. But it's a tough situation. Well, so back to Tristan. Chloe asked him, do you want to have a

more kids in the future. And Tristan said, I think I signed off for two embryos. So I mean, if I do have more kids, it'd be coming from you. I already have enough baby moms. Don't want no more. And then Chloe said, and who helped you fix that decision? That was me. Tristan may have had a little ultimatum from me. He said, what, getting neutered? Sometimes you got to lay them nuts on the table. That's funny. He implied that he was a little against it initially. He said, I've been a little hardheaded at times. I wish I wasn't as stubborn. However, he came around to the idea saying sometimes you have to get forced into the right decision. Wow. So even though he's had of a second, me, more kids aren't off the table from him. He said that he legally signed over the rights to his

embryos with Chloe. She said, you sign them over to me anyway, so I legally own them. He said, no more kids unless it's coming from Chloe's embryos. Wow. Wow. Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, Wow, wow, wow. That's big. It's, so does she not plan on needing somebody and getting married? Oh, she could. No, I know. It's just like, like a, I guess it's her right to choose.

Mm-hmm. If she wants more kids with Tristan. With Tristan. She doesn't have to fornicate with him. She doesn't have to get his approval. And what if, I guess, like, we'll see what happens. What if she meets the love of her life? They get married.

Want to have children. is Tristan then allowed to meet the love of his life and have children then? Oh. I guess that I'm sure Chloe would be open to that. She would be open to that then. But if he really was having kids with just like one person and not just like everyone that he had up with. Not just like everybody. Not just like everyone.

Yeah. So I'm sure that that would be like a beautiful problem to have down the road where like Chloe is moved on and with someone else and starting. And like really. Do you think that girls? Like, are they trapping him? Like, they're like, oh, I'm ovulating. I'm going to go and try. No, not even poking a hole.

It's not the hole. I think about this all the time. Yeah. Like, it's hard to get pregnant. Yeah. Very. Yeah. You have a very finite period of time.

Like 36 hours. Very finite period of time to get pregnant. Mm-hmm. So unless you're just so lucky that on the single day of the month, two days of the month, you happen to be having sex. With Tristan Thompson. Otherwise, it does kind of sound, bless you. It does kind of seem like, and I guess I would trap an NBA player.

That's a really great way to make some quick cash, trap an NBA player. You think, but I feel like it doesn't always work out the way you want. They get something. They get something. And then they have like a really good chance of that baby becoming an NBA player too. So it's an investment in the future. It's an investment in the future. So you would get pregnant by them. In a different world, in like a different lifetime, I might trap an NBA player.

You would? You'd think about it? I feel like I would have huge tits. Do you feel that? If you were a woman? If I was a woman. Yes. And I was looking to trap an NBA player.

I think I would have huge tits. And I would use them. Like I would like eat my tits out. You would wield them? I would wield them. I would wield them to fornicate with an NBA player. Okay. And that's how you wanted to go.

That's how you would use your feminine power. Yeah. And then I'd be a power milker. And I would first use them to trap. Then I would use them to milk. To baby Brunson. Yeah, to baby Brunson. and that would be my power.

And then what if the NBA player wanted nothing to do with you and was paying minimum child support? Great. Then I go and meet the love of my life and I have the love of my life's children as well with my big kids. This sounds like one of those like AI movies.

Called me and my big tits. You know this like down on her luck? The journey of a big titted woman. and like gets pregnant by an NBA player. He leaves her on the side of the road. You would watch it on TikTok. I would watch it on real. Episodically.

Yes, I would. I might click for part two. Oh, that's funny. But no, I think that after everything he's put her through, I think this is fair. I think it's actually very lovely that he's given her the opportunity for more children if that's what she wants.

Lovely. And she doesn't have to wait to meet someone and, you know, they would be genetic siblings with her children. And like, if she wants more kids, like, it's up to her. Yes. I think that's like a very probably freeing for her to know. It's lovely. It's really nice.

She's still a little bit too nice. Yeah. But this clearly is what she wanted. So if it's what she wants. I kind of want to listen to it, the episode of Tristan. I don't think I realized that she had. Oh, no, I did know that she had. Chloe in underland on Dear Media.

Dear Media. Yeah. Our sister. Yeah, yeah. She's a great show. Great show. It really is. Yeah.

I have to listen more. Great show. Speaking of another great podcast, Scooter Braun. went on the Free Press's Second Thought podcast with Susie Weiss. Did you see? I saw clips. I saw clips.

I haven't watched it and I should. It's another one that I want to watch. But I saw clips because they're, I love them both. I love them both. I love Susie. I love her new podcast. I think she's having great conversations.

Yeah. And she's talking to Scooter and I feel like Scooter hasn't done like a, I would say Second Thought is a little bit swirley because Susie's like a little swirley and it's pop culture. Because he's done like diary of a CEO type podcast, you know, like business oriented.

like he's talking about the things that people want to know and the thing mostly, which is Taylor Swift. So he- Oh, I saw that clip. Yeah. Like, I do not know her at all. Yeah. So what he said was, I think, I don't think he wanted to get into it too deep, but he was like, I feel like people have this idea that like we are like bitter enemy.

We were bitter enemies when I bought the rights to her music. And he said, I don't, I actually didn't know her. I had met her like three times. Once at a party, our conversation was like totally lovely. And then, and I obviously like respect and admired her. you don't spend that much money on someone's catalog without like hoping to work with them and wanting to work with them. And so all of what happened next was really like a shock to him

considering like they didn't really have a personal relationship. And I think he wanted people to know like there wasn't like some bitter drama that had unfolded before. Yeah. Yeah. All that I can say is, uh, I know Scooter. Scooter is great. Scooter is a, uh, Jewish loves basketball.

Oh yeah. He's a famous Knicks fan. loves the Knicks. He can be in your chat. And like his accomplishments are just like a laundry list. Like such an amazing, just person in music and businessman. And I don't know. Like I don't know Taylor Swift.

I think that it's just like the hard part. Are you team scooter? I think that I'm team business. Like I'm team like this is the way that that you can't blame him for the way that the music industry operates. If you can buy somebody's catalog. that he didn't invent that idea. Yeah, yeah. He's a bidder.

Like, I don't know the entire story. Bitter with a D. Yeah, with a D. He's a bidder. Like, he's able to bid on a catalog. And I don't know the ins and outs of it whatsoever. But I just know that the way that the music industry works is that these things are for sale all the time. Yeah.

People sell them. I don't know the who, what, why, where they're sold and how that ends up happening. But didn't Justin Bieber just sell his music for $200 million? Yeah. Justin Timberlake sold his music. Like, and I'm sorry that she doesn't Michael Jackson on the Beatles or something? Yeah, and I'm sorry that she didn't have the ability to say yes or no in regards to her music. But that's not his problem.

Yeah. That's the seller's problem. Yeah. Stop Worsheta. She should take issue with the seller, not the buyer. What the buyer do? They took a deal from a seller, a legitimate real seller. So I think that all of this is just.

Yeah, he was also. It's old news, but. He was talking about like just masters in general and like what they are. I think like some people, myself, I don't really, like, get it. How there's, like, master rights and, like, publishers' rights. And, like, when you're a singer, you get your publishing rights. But, like, the label gets your master's rights. And those are really valuable for the label.

And now there's, like, this conversation around, like, the contracts that are to sign. Sure, read them. Yeah. And he said, like, it might start to change where, like, labels don't own masters. And he's curious, like, how that will affect the music industry. Because then, you know, if they're not making money from artists, they're not going to take a gamble on as many artists as they do. Like, you know, probably 10% of artists at a label pay for 90% of all of the artists.

You know what I mean? So, like, I don't know. It will be interesting to see how it changes, if it changes. I mean, the music industry fundamentally changed with TikTok. Like, you have so much talent, so easily on display, so many views being generated without, like, not to use a Jesse Solomon. I don't know who he's signed to. he's getting a ton of view, whether you like his music or not, he's able to generate views

because that's the time that we live in previously. The only way that you got somebody to listen to your song was you signed with a label who had the relationships with a radio station. The radio station put you on and then you toured. Now you don't need any of that. Yeah. It should change. Yeah, I think things change.

But again, that doesn't change. Read contracts. Yeah. And by the way, now it will also change. You can literally fucking throw a, and you should all be doing this. throw a contract into chat GPT and say, tell me the nuts and bolts of this and what to look out for. You don't even have to read them. Yeah.

You can't afford a lawyer. You don't have to. Put your contract in chat. If you're a small unknown artist, you're kind of powerless to negotiate a contract with, if this is like our boiler paper contract here at Sony. Sure. If you want to sign with Sony, this is the contract. And by the way, great.

You made a decision. Yeah. You wanted Sony. Yeah. And like, so Sony should get nothing. But you wanted Sony. You obviously wanted Sony because you failed. felt that Sony would give you a leg up in your career,

but then when you got the leg up in your career, fuck Sony. Yeah. That's not very nice either, right? Yeah. Yeah. No, it's a given. It's a give and take.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So. No, another one that I want to listen to. I would love to listen to that. Yeah. That's probably good.

Yeah. Totally. Susie doing big things. Yeah. What kind of music, new music are you liking these days? Any new artists? New music. I know.

Pop a roach. I don't want to hear about it. I was going to say, I just listen to it. Let me tell you. I don't know if you know about this little station on Sirius XM called Pop 2K, but I love Pop 2K. Channel 7 I think is like all punk and also Pop 2K, so it's like 90s and 2000s. I listen exclusively to 90s and 2000s music. I also listen to James Taylor.

There are no new artists that you're. Zero. I will listen to. Sure. Luke Combs like is cool. MGK, wouldn't you love him? If it crosses my desk. Paulsy.

I don't seek any of this out. Like, if it comes to me, it comes to me. It's very rare. Like, once every two years, I'll get a new song that I like from a new artist. Oh, what's one that you liked recently? Probably the most recent one was that Halsey MGK song. Okay. Forget you.

Forget you too. What I forget you? I like that for like a week. But, like, I'm literally going to a James Taylor concert with my dad. Like, that's the music that I like. Your old soul. I love James. He's great.

You know what song I like that's made of me? I love Joel, Billy Joel. I love John Mayer. I love Oasis. I love Blink 182. I love like that's and like by because of you guys, I like Luke Combs. I like some country when I hear it. You know, what are you listening to? You have any new songs that you like shibooze? I do. I love shoes. No, but you know what? I'm really. Shibuzi's cool, actually. Actually, there are a couple new artists that like I really, really like. Tell me. Like Alex Warren. I love. By the way, I think he's great too. Teddy Swims. Teddy Swims is great too. These are both, I like both of them.

Yeah. And I really like Olivia Dean. I love Olivia Dean. I love Ray. I think like, where is my husband? I don't know who Ray is. Do you know the song Where's My Husband? How does it sound?

Baby, where the hell's my husband? No. But he should come home. Oh my God. It's so, it's like, it's an amazing song. You should listen to it. Maybe Where the hell is my husband? Yeah.

And then you know what song I just listened to that? I'm like, it's great. Like it's, it's bubbled out to the surface for me. 12 to 12 by Somber. Somber? You have to listen to the song. Okay. What is it?

Um, full of people I look for you. Okay, I'm sure I'd like it. It's a little beetsy. There's some beats. Yeah, it reminds me of the door by Teddy Swims. Do you know the door? I think so.

Oh, so good. We listened to it all summer. Teddy Swims is amazing. Teddy Swims is amazing. He's amazing, but I can't name a song. Okay. I should be able to. Okay.

Can you like make a playlist for your ride home of the door in 12 to 12? I'll just write it down. The door and 12th to 12. Yeah. The door and 12th. And then Siena Spiro? I like her too. She's a little, like, more whiny, like, like, Amy Winehouse.

You don't have to listen to that. Got with the wine. But, no, there's, like, some new music I'm feeling. As opposed to, like, just David Geddon Pipple all day. So good. Which goes so hard on the paint. Oh, my God. Tio Cruz.

Yeah. When was the last time you listened to Dynamite? You know I know how. When was the last time you listened to Dynamite? Probably, like, in February, because I was, like, listening to all. What about Neo? Neo. Neo, what's the great Neo?

It's independent. No. Neo is so fucking good. Yeah. I went through like a great Acon time. Oh, Acon. No, that's, this is where I leave you. Acon and young geez.

Neo and David Getta. No, Neo, what was the Neo song? Oh, play hard. No, this album from David Getta, you know the one. When I show you the album cover, you're going to. Oh, closer. Oh, close. Turn the lights.

You know this album. David Getta. I saw him alive. Titanium. I saw David Gettel live multiple times. Without you by David Geta featuring Usher. Unbelievable. Shut it down.

David Gett is amazing. David Gett is amazing. Pippel's amazing. I think he's going on to where you want to go. Yeah, but only if you'll come with me to any of the things that I want to go to. Like what? Like what? The fucking Gypsy Kings.

Fine. This is like the most, this is heartbreaking. I literally write in the family chat. I just spent thousands of dollars on an unbelievable VIP table for the gypsy kings this summer. Silence. What am I going to go fucking alone? No, no, I'll go to the Gypsy Kings. Great.

You want to go to Bruno Mars in the fall? Where? Here? Yeah, here. Yeah, I like Bruno Mars. I don't, I don't need, yeah. No, I like it. No, it's going to be a man.

Okay, I'll go to Bruno Mars. You know how many times I've fucking seen like Rascal Flats for you? Like, not enough. Yeah. Not enough times. Oh, it was, it was Acon and I think it was, it might have been Neo and ACON touring together. Okay, maybe like my husband will go with you. He won't.

I think he would. You think so? Yeah, he likes it. like to go to stuff. I'll ask him. He likes to go to stuff. Especially if I'm like, oh. Yeah, of course.

Yeah. If you're encouraging about it. Yeah, if I'm encouraging. Yeah. Which I feel like I am. Okay. No, you're, Within reason.

You're encouraging for sure. Yeah. Within reason. Like, you have three small children. Yeah, no, you're encouraging within reason. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like you guys golfed on Sunday. We did.

We did. Lovely. It was fun. Okay, we can end the show. Oh, I did four stories because I felt like it. Oh, Queenie and Wee and Weee. Claudia will be really mad if we don't do it. So let's do it.

It's Queenie and Weenie of the Week and Weenie of the Week. I have it. I think my queenie is so obvious and it's Libby Oshrey. Shit. Is that yours too? That was mine. She's a collective queen. So she's the obvious queen.

She's the obvious queen. She's the obvious queenie. Yolito. Yolito. J. Thank God. Yeah, we love her. And I, who's your weenie?

I don't know. Who's yours? My weenie is the miraculously bright creatures. Very good. Thank you. Remarkably. Creatures movie. Okay. And the people who made it and everyone who participated? It was such a wonderful book, even though I can't ever remember the name. I always call it remarkably.

Yeah, remarkably. Okay. The movie was so fucking bad. It was such bad acting by everybody but Sally Field. Cameron was one of the worst actors I've ever seen, like terrible. And they just twisted the story, removed key elements to the plot, and apparently I've been told that this is the life of a reader, that they butcher books, but they fucking butchered this book.

It was bad, and they, like, took Marcellius, who is an octopus, who, like, comes in once every, like, 40 pages and just says, like, a little something. They made him the narrator of the entire movie. Oh, that kind of works. No, it didn't.

It was like I was watching, like, David Attenborough Planet Earth. I'm not. It's not a nature documentary. It is a movie about, a mother who lost her son who falls in love and the octopus is somehow involved. She falls in love with an octopus. She does, but that's not really what it's about.

Okay. The octopus saves her life. It's a great book. Okay. It's a great book. And a bad movie. I started the new Redheads book yesteryear. What is it?

Which it's like about. Oh, it's called yesteryear. It's going like viral right now already. Like the rights have been picked up, Ann Hathaway is starring in the movie. Oh, wow. It's about a trad wife influencer who, like wakes up in 1885 and absolutely has to like live away. Oh, that's cool.

But freaky Friday, but trad wife edition. And, you know, I think it's meant to like clown on tradwives. Like you would never actually live like this if you had to. I just got to, I'm like 6% in. So I just got to the part where like she wakes up in a very cold bed that isn't hers. Very cool story. No, I'm like, I think I'm going to hate it because I, it's actually just like about ballerina farm and like clowning on like the person who they're talking like the

influencer on the farm. and she sells all these products and she has like seven kids and the husband and the husband's a descendant of like a rich family like it's literally ballerina farm so i'm like i'm not gonna like enjoy something that's cloning on my girl however like so far just the bit that i read like i liked it like the influencer no it's also like it it i love freaky friday yeah you can miss me on freaky year but i like freaky well so i i'm curious to see like and i've seen so many mixed reviews i really wonder how i'm gonna feel about it like because you never know what you could expect from me yeah And what I'm going to like and what I'm not going to like. You think I'm not going to like something and then I like it. 100%. And then you think I'm going to like something and I don't like it. 100%.

Yeah, we don't know. Stay tuned. Before we close the show, one last thing, which is, I don't know if you know, Jackie, but we are sold out in 50% of targets nationwide. I did hear that. Skinny Sprits is crushing. And so if you went in and didn't find it, I'm sorry. Hopefully stock will arrive soon.

But you sold it out. I love it. Skinny Sprits. Yeah, it's right here. Skinning. Class experts you know and love me at skinning at 100 calories and no sugar. It's pretty fucking sweet. Yeah, it is. Without being too sweet. Without being too sweet. Well, that's our show. The millennial show that's, you know, in love. The greatest show on earth. We love you so much. Have a great weekend, everyone. Love you. Bye. Bye.