The Toast - Nicolandria Incorporated: Wednesday, May 6th, 2026

Episode Date: May 6, 2026

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Jackson Claude, favorite show the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off, swirly. It's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to the terst. How you durst? It's jerst. It's jerst and turst on the worst day of the week, I guess.

Is it? Is it the worst day? No. No. What's today? Wednesday? No. Not even fucking close.

I would argue it's the third best. And the third worst. Correct, right in the middle. Yeah. Well, happy Wednesday. Did you watch Summer House last night? I did. I actually did not watch Summer House last night due to my new co-sleeping adventures.

Well, that's fine. The boys down with me. And I was like, you know what? It's 9.30. I'm going to like pretend to fall asleep with them. And I'm going to go to sleep with them. So it really doesn't even require a recap. It was such a boring episode.

We do have your toasters today. So that'll be at the end of the episode. but let me say this. What are you going to say? We also, in our fifth and final story there is like summer house news. So if you wanted to like share your thoughts on the episode which please by all means share them.

I actually really don't have thoughts on the episode. I have a couple of thoughts on Watch What Happens Live. Yeah, that's in our fifth and final story. All right. So you know what? I'll just wait. So that's negative thoughts. We also have your tersters.

The teresters. And you know what's so funny we go through it. It's actually not funny. We go through eras like people writing in like is my husband gay. Right now we're in the era of my like there's, like there's two is my husband a pedophile or a sex offender like stop i tried not to choose i can't handle it i actually can't handle it it's like it's such a vibe killer to say but like what do you do if you're going through your husband's nightstand and you find like a secret hidden camera like not it's not set up

but like he owns a hidden camera i i can't i i i can't honestly and i don't choose that one and i don't like know this person so i can't assume their intentions like what if it's a bird watching camera and he likes to sneak it in the trees to get footage of the birds like I don't fucking know or you know he's a pedophile a sex offender of course of course like it's probable or a snake you know maybe he's just spying on you to get like get information I don't know I don't know these people okay it's just too much for me it's too much on my shoulders well I tried to choose like a good mix of you know both sex offenders while also you know in-law drama classic classic stuff that's so dear toaster.

So we have that. We'll do a little bit of summer house. How was your day yesterday, Miss Foley? Oh my God. My day was so busy when it was done. I was like, but then it never ended because the children like never went to sleep until I went to sleep with them. But I was like driving around town like speed listening to the Redheads book.

Oh, right. Like to finish it in time for the episode, we recorded the episode yesterday. It's actually a great episode. And I feel like it's going to be a little surprising. That not everyone loved the book. nobody in the group loved the book. Well, it seems like nobody loves the redheads, and so you're all speed listening to it the day before.

So obviously you're not going to like a book that you're like speed listening to, half reading. I was the only one who did that. Everyone else, like Margo dedicated her weekend to read the book. Yes, she was very stressed last minute about it. Like, everyone is coming at it with like a negative. Not at all. I love Alison Pataki.

This is my fifth read by her. I mean, they're coming to the redheads, like with a rushed attitude. And I'm sorry, I'm taking it personally. Like, that's my favorite book. And if you guys didn't like it, like that's a you problem, not a book problem. It wasn't like I didn't like it. My writing was favorable.

But it wasn't Marjorie Post. Like it didn't slay for me. I found all of us had like a lot of issues with like the book and the character. And it was actually, I think surprising considering you would think this was like such a win. But that's the thing about the redheads. Like you can't put us in a box. You never know what's going to happen next. Also a fun fact about the redheads is now we're like actively trying to get canceled because that would sort of like solve our problem.

here. So we're kind of going off the beaten path, you know, in trying to court a cancellation for ourselves. Well, good luck with that. Let me just say this. Leave me out of it. Okay. I want no part of the Redheads cancellation. And I'm sick. I'm sick from this news. I'm just sick from it. That we didn't like the book, that we didn't love the book. Sick. Why, you didn't love next to heaven. It happens. A piece of garbage. Different strokes for different folks. Oh, speaking of different strokes i don't know if you heard but we're like kind of getting canceled for our jeff lauren bayses Nicole sanchise take hey i knew i was you know manifesting a cancellation somewhere what's the wrong show what's the show what's a tea oh you know just not people not liking our takes and to that i

say i actually felt like we were so mid on it like no i think that if you don't come out and say like laura nicole sanchise baza should kill herself like you're not going hard enough that's what people want oh no i don't believe that unfortunate i don't don't believe that either. Although there isn't, I was telling you about this this morning. I was watching this like dissertation on Nick from Love Island. And it hasn't happened fully yet, but I do feel like the tides are changing a little bit on like public discourse on Olandria and Nick because if you're a Nicolandria truth or which you and I have been from literally the moment they met, literally the first episode, we know that this is a fake relationship. It's just extremely convenient.

It's a well executed PR relationship, but like we have seen through it from day one. And now with this vulture article, people are starting to, and also Sierra comes up on my TikTok a lot. And she's just an influencer. She never talks about Love Island. She does like a lot of, you know, gratitude journaling and trips to the Cape. And the comment sections, like it's actually been wild to watch them do a complete 180. Because at first, the comments were literally just like the worst things ever. And now they're like, oh, I always liked you or oh, everyone was wrong about you, Sierra.

Oh, like this comment. If you never hated Sierra, like seriously. so finicky. Like everyone's just flip-flopping all over the place. And now, you know, the Nicolandria truthers are being sort of vindicated, especially with Nick and his relationship with Sierra. Like, that was your girlfriend. You had sex with her. And then she got kicked off the show and you never spoke to her again. Yeah. That was wrong. But right now I'm just like hung up on the fact that, like you guys are carrying on a fake relationship for whom. Like, Nicolandria is a business. Anyone who talks about it like it's a relationship. I like, I don't know how you could be so naive.

Nicolandria's, it's literally Nicolandra Incorporated. It is. And it's like, I don't understand why Alandria is a part of Nicolandria. He is just because she doesn't need anything or anyone. She's in a category all of her own. And I would like for her to find like real love. And if they, I mean, I can't even say like if they're in a relationship because they're so obviously not.

Because even the couples on the show that were so into each other on the show have petered out. So what does that say about the couples that faked it till the end? They're so dumb. What do you mean faked it till the end? They weren't even in a relationship till the last episode. Yeah. Yeah.

It's just, I can't even be like, and if they are together, like, why would they be together? I just need to reaffirm like that you and I are captains of the Nicolanger truthership because like, you know, we've seen it now with like Amanda Matula, things change and everybody's like,

I never liked her. We have got on record. Of course. I just can't wait for like the actual truth to come out and we were pioneers. And we got a lot of hate. Like there's a lot of the Nicolanderer truthers were like, there was some serious allegations. Like you were called racist.

Like what? He can't love Elandria. It's like, are you fucking kidding me? She can't love him. Like, are you guys stupid? You're racist. Yeah. Like, it was seriously, it's hard out there for a Nicolandia, truther.

It is. And I just like, sometimes we take a hard position. I'm like proud. I'm like, you know what? We wrote it out. It was hard. This is so obvious to me. Like, I don't even feel proud or like I said the hard thing.

Like, this is so obvious. It's clear as day. Absolutely. And I just want to say. My favorite word that took me years. learn how to pronounce usury usury i always saw as pronounce usri usri us laudia usury usur why isn't that a fun word that's a good one mm-hmm userous loserus loser sneeze so all roads lead back to love island kind of living for that vulture article like the she didn't go hard

enough it's sent through the industry a ledger shouldn't go hard enough she didn't go hard enough No, and she was also just like saying, she was also calling him just like dumb. Like he just goes with the wind. No, but she also picked him for like the masterminds of the list. Yeah. A million girls would kill for that spot. 30 people chose in Nick. Question mark.

Yeah. O'Andrea was obviously busy. She said, my stand in can come. Does that work for you guys? Yeah. Yeah. That's definitely what happened. She was definitely busy.

Maya on that list. Also, I feel like the Amaya truthers are starting to come out. Not that there's anything like really wrong. Like she's a lovely girl. But the fact that she won Love Island just like stick it to someone for something that happened like six weeks previously on the show when like a lot of other things were happening. That didn't need to happen. You know? Yeah.

That was such a wild season. And like that fact that Brian. Whomst? Brian. Like, and someone from Casa Amor won the show. is insane. They need to put some systems in place to make sure something like that never happens again. The fans have too much power on that show.

Yeah, but that was. Because the fans are not smart. That was the fans like trying to game the system, you know? Like you think Ace and Shelley are going to win? No. These randos. Literally. That's why I have issues being a part of like the Love Island community.

I have issues. Yeah, I very much like I set up permanent residents on the outskirts of the community. Like I don't want to be a part of them. I don't think they're smart. They're the scariest group of people on the planet. No, and it's like, it's bad when the audience gets too much power. And it's bad when the islanders get too much power. And then they send Jeremiah and Hannah home.

Oh, my God, Jeremiah and Hannah. I'm still there. So, yeah, that's what I saw my morning scroll this morning, just like a changing of the tides. That's always exciting. And it's so funny how personal your timeline is, because I was telling you yesterday about the heated rivalry guys I sound like everybody hates one and not the other.

And the people in our comments, actually, we're like, Claudia, that's not true. We love them both. We love them both. We love them both. And I must be on like gay Twitter because the gay community hates the straight one. I'm telling you, and all the girls in our comments were like,

we love them both. Really? I see him getting ready to filth on Twitter every single day. And I never even watch a show. I don't know why it would be served this content. Yeah. But I think I must be just on gay Twitter. Or they just like know that you loved like the haters.

Pitting people against one another. Yeah. And that like you love the hate, hate hate. I literally do. It's just like, no, I don't love the hate, but like, it's interesting to have an opinion. It's more interesting to hate. I know, but that's bad. But even though, like, we love, love, love, you know, as much as we talk so much shit, like, it's so true. There are not too nicer, kind, or more generous girls. And I know us, like, offline. It's true. And because I know us offline, like, I know how really sweet and genuine. We are, like,

It's actually shocking that we are Nicolandria Truthers because like we do believe in love. That's why we're Nickelandria truthers. No, I know, but I could see us also getting swept up in the Nicolandria of it all. For a minute. I actually was like, oh, this is fun. And then production like put them together, sent them to that remote date when they both were getting eliminated. And they gave them a chance to be together and they said no thanks. So like I moved on.

No, and they literally only coupled up because it was their only way to stay on the show. Like seriously, how dense are people? No, like I was down to clown. and they both said they weren't into it. Like that was that. They made out and they were like, I'm good. Yeah. I don't need to do that again. So that was like all I needed to see.

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Wait, I wanted to tell you something. Yeah. I'm like annoyed. Why? I really was trying to get that Walmart Majong's hat for $80. Did you see it? Sold out. But you know what?

They have one. I don't want to say where it is at a Walmart in New Jersey that I'm actually going to drive to. Oh, really? I looked, you can't get it online. My local Walmart. You can't get it online. My local did not have. Maybe I guess I saw where it is.

It's not close, but I could take a trip. Road trip. It comes with such a cute bag. I don't love the racks or the mat. But to get tiles in a bag for $79. Like, I have to go. Honestly, you know what? I'm doing it.

Yeah. Okay. Maybe I'll try and go. And then wait. Oh, happy birthday to our satchel. Our little sister's birthday is today. And I wanted to wish her. Oh my God.

Do you want to hear the funniest thing? Of course. Yesterday on the Redheads, I was telling Margot, we were talking about her birthday. obviously because that's what's happening in the Redheads community. And I had told her like my birthday gift will actually be there on her birthday. And I bought it, you know, sort of last minute. But I had to wait for it to sort of come across my desk. Like I didn't know what to get her.

And then the perfect thing I sort of arrived on my Instagram. And she was like, I feel like I know what you got me. And I already bought it for myself. And I was like, what? She was like Hunza G. Burberry. So yes, I got her two swimsuits from the Hunza G. X. Burberry collaboration. and she had already bought one, but I bought her two, like, two different colors,

and she got a different color. So she has three, and she can return much she doesn't like, and that just means I slayed. It's true. That's how you know. So, Satchel. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you.

Happy birthday, Mrs. Satchell. Happy birthday to you. We love you, Satchell. The place looks great. Always does. Well, it always does. I love her. I know.

I love little satchy. Let's just go home and call her. Okay. Call it a day. Also, you guys shower her with love today. Tell her her work outfit is adorable. And just be sweet to satchie, okay? Be sweet to satchi.

B-S-T-S. Oh, I thought of a new acronym this morning. Okay. And I'm going to start using it. P-D-A-P-I-T-A? No. P-I-T-A? Mm-hmm.

Please? Mm-mm. Can I show you? Yeah. Paid in the ass. Ooh. I kind of love that. Yeah.

Peter. Peter. Are you ready for our first story? Mm-hmm. In no particular order. Kim Kardashian makes a difficult decision in her law journey after multiple failed, bar attempts. So reports are saying now that Kim has skipped the February,

B. B. BOR exam, no plans to try again in July. Okay, like, listen, you know, John F. Kennedy Jr. famously had to take it a couple of times. I just want to say, first of all, she has to see this through, and she has to pass. Like, there's no option.

Really? Yeah. I mean, she's made it her whole personality. She's literally missed out on, like, hours and hours of her family and her children for this test. It means she has to. That's how I feel like, but I just want to say on the John of Kennedy Jr. point, like he has no, he had no other options in life other than to take the bar, become a lawyer, and like follow that political path.

Like for Kim, this was meant to be a hobby. Really, she has. It's become more trouble than it's worth. She has eight other careers. Like John F. Kennedy would have had no career. No, I mean she has to do it, not because of her career, but because of the time she's already put in. Otherwise it goes to zero. And we know her about.

obsession with like proven people wrong. She got a lot of flack for like skirting. She got a lot of flack for like skirting the system because she didn't go to law school. She did like the internship. And so maybe she needs to go to law school. I just want to say some of the dumbest people I know have passed the bar. Like, is she okay?

It's because she didn't go to law school. Yeah, I guess now that she's trying to do law school like vis-a-vis tutors, but most people go to law school and then pass the bar. They dedicate those many years. No, and Jackie, most people go to law school and then actively work at a law firm during as like a paralegal and shit during those years that like passing the bar's like not even hard yeah yeah but trying to pass the bar while also an actress running skims an influencer a celebrity like she can't fail again like she literally can't fail again the next time she takes it so maybe

she knows that she has like a really busy next couple of months and that if she were to take it she wouldn't pass but like she needs like just for her public image like she's obsessed with proving people wrong she's obsessed with what people think about her at this point i don't even feel like she's proving people wrong. Like it's really just her versus herself versus the bar exam. Like no, she gets like a lot of criticism, not from us, but like, from the internet. No, at this point, no one is like critiquing her harder than herself. Like no one is more invested in her, she has to prove to herself that she can do this. It's really not about what people are saying. Everyone's sort of moved on. Yeah. I just don't understand like working that hard

if you don't have to. Yeah. I guess she has to pass because like then it would make every hour that she spent like really. irrelevant. Yeah, and that's a big pill to swallow because we've seen her on the show. She's studying on set breaks and she's, you know, spending whole days, missing. Birthday parties.

Yeah. But if it were me, if it were me, personally, I would move on. You would cut your losses. I would cut my losses. But like, that's why perhaps, like, I'm not destined for, like, greatness beyond greatness. And I'll just have, like, an ordinary life. Yeah, I'm definitely destined for goodness.

Like for goodness. I will try to a point within reason. That's probably the difference between me and Kim Kardashian. Right. And I'm okay with that. That's the thing. Like I'm okay with goodness. That would be beautiful to have some goodness.

She needs to team up with Mike from suits because he used to like take the LSATs for people. And just it's just a formality at this point. She's not going to be anyone's real lawyer. So just. Yeah. And then also yeah. When she passes the bar, like then what? I don't know.

I guess she can be more effective in her criminal justice reform, but it's like she has the people who do that. You don't have to do everything. She has lawyers, right. I don't know. I just feel that she's sort of like in a rough spot. Definitely.

I bet she wishes she never started this stupid journey. It has been so many years at this point. Yeah, and so many hours. Yeah. Yeah. Awkward. Yeah. But I just want, like, if I just want her to know, like, it's okay to give up.

And I do think in general, like, sometimes it's okay to give up. Yeah, I agree. Not all the time. You know, don't be a give or uper, but no one would ever accuse you of that. But like, it's okay once in a while to just give up. Yeah. But she never will. And like, the internet won't either because, like, I forgot about this, but now I'm

remembering that she didn't pass and it's still something. But like, if they keep reporting on it, like, it won't. The internet and the media won't let people forget. They won't let this quietly go into the night. Yeah, I wonder why. This was like a report via TMZ of source saying. So I wonder like where this came from. And you know TMZ is their Kardashians outlet of choice.

Right. So why did they like wake up and say like let's let TMZ know Kim's not taking the bar again this year? I've no idea. But I guess they felt the world needed to know. Well, thank you. Yeah. Our next story is more legal news. Blake lively made no money in the Justin Baldoni settlement.

But the legal fight is not quite. over yet. Jeez. No money changed chance in the settlement between Blake and Justin, but the legal fight is not quite over. Lively still has a pending motion for attorney's fees and damages in connection

with Baldoni's failed defamation suit against her. Yeah, because if you sue someone and you lose, you have to pay their bills. And did you see that the legal bills are up to $60 million in this? I did see that. That's fucking crazy. I mean, when you think about all the people

who were deposed, like Sony, like this was so big. It's interesting that the settlement was zero dollars. I guess they all just agreed to cut their losses and like it was only going to get worse for both of them. So. Especially a federal trial would have been insane. Huge. Like what a waste of the federal courts' times, honestly.

But like it would have been everyday pictures, quotes. It would have been bad for both of them. Like it makes complete sense that no one had to pay anyone to just end this. Well, did you seem like lively's mech-all trauma. I actually feel bad for her. I did. We saw that headlines yesterday on the show. Daily Mail?

No, no, no, no, something else. So rumors were kind of swirling in a formal capacity that she, like, wasn't invited. Because to get to the Met Galley, it's like you have to come with a brand or a designer. She wore Versace. And then Versace posted on her

Instagram, you know, Blake Lively wearing a tellier. So I think a lot of people assumed like she was at the $100,000 seat was paid for by Versace. But then that any fair came out with the official list of attendees and invite and she wasn't on it. So people were like, she showed up and invited. When actually then, Dumoximo reported today,

confirmed that she was actually a guest of Anna Wintour. I guess Anna can invite whoever she wants at her discretion. Of course she can. Yeah, and they are like old school. She's like an OG MacGala chair. I saw that people were saying she wasn't invited. I did not believe it for one second. She's an OG Anna Swirley.

She can go, it would be like saying Sarah Jessica Parker wasn't invited to the mechala. Correct. She is the moment. Mac Gala. Was she there? She was not there. Oh.

I don't know why. Andy must have been devastated. Oh yeah. He missed out. Unless they're sticking it to the Bezos's. Maybe. Which the Bezos has really noticed. Yeah.

From their $500 million yacht. Yeah. They were bummed as JP wasn't there. I can see like Lord Nicole Sanchez loving Andy. You think so? Yeah. She's just a girl. I don't know.

But if she loved Annie, like I feel like, she's sort of like not in Andy's worlds. Well, I feel like actually at one point she would have been great. Because before she was Mrs. Bezos, like she was still like a real hustler, Gall about and married to a very wealthy, I mean, comparatively, he's a pauper. But pretty wealthy. She could have been like a potential castmate for Beverly Hill. She actually would have been good in her former life.

Yeah. Yeah. But alas, she had other plans for herself. Yeah. She dreamt bigger. She dreamed it. what's it called what's that saying dream it and it will be or whatever she dream like she believed she could so she did me to make like an inspirational quote with like a picture of that yeah and that

quote she believed she could so she and she and she literally did it's so true it's such a good quote she's such an inspiration it really is Kim needs a little of that to believe that she can pass the bar And she will. I think like if she took the bar twice a year, every year for the rest of her life, she would eventually pass the bar, right? Just like. She would have the questions. By accident.

Yeah. But like on Kardashians, when she like went to a hotel and spent the weekend away from her kids and was like getting massages, like all this. And then she did it best. She's seriously so funny. Like, why is she doing all that? I don't know. I don't know.

The massages. Like that was nuts. She's like in like, didn't she miss someone's birthday party? She's like constantly in conference rooms. Like stress to the nine. She threw her back out. With her index cards. She threw her back out studying for the test.

She said she couldn't sit like the stress of it. Just stop. Enjoy your life. Like life is short. Don't spend it studying for the bar if you don't need to become a lawyer. It's true. Like you're literally a billionaire. Like you have the privilege of not having to do all this shit.

Like so why are you doing it? Why are you on a Hulu set filming a turnt show with Sarah Paulson? even though my new vocals, Tim, have you seen that video? Jacket potato. Yeah, what is that? When Kim is doing press for All's Fair with Sarah Paulson, who's like literally her best friend in the world, they're doing press with this very,

I want to say she's like, well, she has a really thick accent, and they're in the UK, and she's asking Kim, like cute questions about, like, UK culture. She was like, do you like a Jacket Potato? And she's saying Jacket Potato, which is a baked potato. And Sarah Paulson, like, understands, but Kim is like, She literally has no idea what the woman said

So she's like A chocolate potato You never had a chicken potato And then Sarah Paulson's like Kim Yeah you've never had a chicken potato It's the best clip ever That's funny And they can't stop laughing

And then Kim's like oh a baked potato Yeah sour cream cheese Once she understands it was really funny Yum A baked potato is yum It doesn't do it for me I'm not surprised A fried potato is more of my food

Like a french fried Correct. Are you ready for our next story? Yeah. Some cute news. Travis Kelsey says he can't wait for this element of his wedding to Taylor Swift. So on New Heights this week, Travis and Jason. Oh, wait, I miss this.

I'm like, I'm kind of blushing. It's actually, it's going to be a hard one for you to swallow because their guest was Rory McElroy. And it was actually Rory McElroy who said the cute thing. It's impossible. It's literally, you read it wrong. Just wait. It's really cute.

give like hold space okay okay because mackerel who won the masters again this year was discussing the honor of hosting the tournament's annual master's champions dinner when he mentioned the nuptials he said Travis you'll feel this this year whenever you're sitting at your wedding you have all of the people in a room from like it's so amazing it's to have all these people in the same room from your childhood and it's surreal it's unbelievable the only thing that i can compare it to is your wedding day because it's like all of this collection of people in the same room it's like wild and Travis were I can't wait. Stop, but like this story got significantly less cute

when you told me Roy McElroy was about like... But it's a cute sentiment to think about. Like, everyone that you know in your life, they probably, like, they're never going to all be together. They don't know each other, but like they are at your wedding. That's like really beautiful.

Makes you like to justify spending all that money. Yeah. You know. I like, yeah. I'm really excited. I'm just trying to like move past the Roy McHorrah like I literally can't stand him so much it's a good question was there a something what does Ben feel about him like hates because it's like you're always rooting for an

American and he's like always winning it's annoying it's like why people hate LeBron like just because he's good I understand also it's like your faves are never going to win because like he's always over here winning I could not have you seen like this stuff about live golf drama what they're like over yeah it's like it's like over yeah it's like over they've like defunded it. Oh man. You're seriously like five years late. I'm cracking up. Yeah, they like merged. No, they merged. That's different.

But then there were still players like living, but like the Saudis aren't funding live golf anymore. It's like done. Oh, so all that for nothing. All of that for nothing. And all. Not really. Well, the people who like stood their ground and didn't take $500 million deals just for like this whole thing to be over in a few years. Like you should have taken them on there. No, I feel like the opposite. They look like sellouts. Well, I often think what I would do in a situation like that

Because I love, I genuinely love money more than anything in this world But I am like a deeply Unfortunately like scrupled person So if I knew that like this $100 million But it has to be like these are people who like $100 million is a lot but they also have $100 million They probably have $30 million And they're giving, okay so like

No, I would take it You want to triple your net worth. I like to think that I'm better than that. But like in actuality, I'm really, okay, I'm tripling my net worth. I have a family. Like, I don't think that you would. Well, I know because you wouldn't let me.

No, I think that if I were born in a different family, I would have. I know you. I like know us offline. And I just know you. You wouldn't do it. I would love to have a second home one day. Like. Okay.

So it'll be a smaller home. Great. I just, I know you turdsville. But anyways, I look forward to getting the whole situation explained to me. Oh, but then do I have to like go to Saudi Arabia? I don't know. Like, do you have to go to, I didn't think about that part. I thought like they would just pay me in the U.S.

But if it involves travel. There might be like tour stops. There might be tour stops. Because like Riyadh comedy festival where all those comedians were like getting canceled. Would you have done that? No, because you have to go. Yeah, they said like bring the N-Log tour to Riyadh. No.

as like a chesty jewess like i'm not going to saudi arabia like sorry i'm just not okay so scrupled scared we're so scared we're so scared if i'm being honest but like if the money was just wired and i had to just participate in like saudi activities in the states oh bitch it's on okay okay so that's where you draw the line yeah if i have to physically go i can't that part i don't know I don't know where the tour stops are for Liv. Right. Well, anyways, like, hopefully it's in this season of full swing

because I don't want to wait until next year to understand what happened. But I do think Net Net, like, it's not good for the Liv players. I think they look like idiots. They get insane guests on that New Heights podcast. Like, it's wild. Yeah. Leonardo, like, and people who've never done a podcast before in their life, Leonardo DiCaprio sitting down being like, what is this?

I kind of want to listen to it because it's like, it's really hard to do, like, remote podcast. interview, like, and have a great interview. So there are a couple of podcasts that just absolutely slay the remote game. I don't know if, oh, you probably didn't see this, but this TikTok kind of went like viral of a girl being like, I cannot believe that Jackie and Claudia live in different states. And it was one of the best, like, feelings ever for me. This girl was like, wait, did everybody know this?

They're not in the same room. She was like, but it looks like it too, because she watches. She doesn't even just listen. She watches. Yeah. I don't know of a higher. compliment, honestly. Yeah, that's really great. So I would put us in the category of like slaying the remote podcast. The greats. Absolutely. It's new heights. They do a really good job. No lag. I don't

know a single other podcasts. I'm trying to think. That slays remote podcasting. But we don't do interviews. They do. That's really impressive. It's impossible to do a Zoom interview. It's miserable. Good guys must do pretty good on remote. They have our setup. They do. They copied us. Yeah. So, but they're like still in the TNN family. Yeah. So CNN crushes remote podcasting. We should become a network for remote podcasters. That's kind of a good idea. It is. It's very niche. Except that like I have no ambition these days. Like I was just talking about this. I am so leaning in actually I was just playing mahjong and you know a lot of my friends are mom some of them are full-time moms. Some of them are working moms and one of my friends was talking about like you know she's kind of feeling like she wants

to leave the workforce. She's three kids. I'm like do it. Like I'm so toxic like my personal experience with motherhood has been like it drained me of any. ambition and I love it. And I feel like at first I was like, wait, no, I was that kind of fighting that feeling. That's why I did the Masked Singer. Like I was fighting the feeling. I was like, no, no, because I've always been,

like, we have to go, we have to be here, we have to do this. And now I'm leaning in like a little too hard. I keep like pulling out of stuff. I'm like canceling. But like I just don't wanna work. Like I just wanna do the minimum to pay my bills, which is showing up and doing this show. Yeah, no, and I will do this.

Don't worry, guys. Like, I will never not do this. Yeah, no. the perfect amount, you know, and running the toes and everything that comes with it, because it gives you that creative outlet, which I think if you didn't have as a mom would be hard for someone like you who's so creative. Yep. But it allows you to really be like a full-time mom outside of this.

But I think you'll also get to a phase where right now it's like you still think, like, no, I should do that. So you say yes. And then you cancel. But in a couple months you'll be at a place where I know I need to say no to everything. So it's just sort of an awkward phase. Yeah, it is. It's transitional.

So if you see me at Nevada and then they like cancel like that's why? No, I also I'm in a place where it's like I keep thinking like in three months or in six months like my life is going to completely. I'm going to have my shit together. I can do this, that and the other thing. And then those things roll around and I'm like, no, I can't. Of course I can't. Am I crazy? What was I thinking?

And it's been that way for four years. Because I went to, I hosted like a fireside chat with the moderator, Rosalie Andromed Dean. And I was talking about this. and she's like OG hustler, blogger girl. And I was like, no, I literally have no ambition. And I love it. Like, and I, and I, I want to talk about it because I feel like that happens to women.

And you're just like, you're supposed to feel bad. You're supposed to feel bad and you're supposed to think, well, that's wrong because like I can't lose my career. Ambition is good. Yeah. And it's like, well, yeah, but it's okay if you don't want to. Like, it's absolutely okay. And then she was just like, oh, it's so funny.

But also, like, it's worth mentioning. It's not to like sit around and eat bonbons all day. It's to like be a mother, you know, which like there's no more. worthy job in the world. It's to be a mother and eat bottomers. At the same time, holding space for two things. And sit around. Absolutely, because I'm not getting back on the floor. My back is still really bad. Like, I've been icy hot on now. I'm in hell. Yeah. So then what did she say? Oh, she was like, oh, that's so funny. A total opposite for me. Like the second I gave birth.

And she said it was because she had girls maybe. And she's like, the girls gave her like this insane, tense ambition, like to go achieve. And I was like, oh, opposite for me. Slide. Oh, I guess. Like, because maybe you want your daughters to, like, see what a woman can do. Yeah. And whereas, like, I'm prepping my son to have just like a concubine.

Like, a wife. For a wife. No, like, later, I make Ben do everything. Like, we had that meeting in Florida. I sent Ben to meet you. Like, I just want to be home. Like, you know what? I'm finally, like, leaning in.

I'm like, that's good. Like, it's good. I just, it was, it's so polar opposite who I was before I had a baby. So it's like, it's been a transition. And it was a tough one to swallow. But now I'm like telling all my friends, I'm like, you should quit. Like you should literally quit. You're like Emily Blunt.

Absolutely. Yeah. Good advice. Yeah. Are you ready for our fourth story? Lizzo is speaking out about her lawsuits. She said the truth will come out in court. So Lizzo is not backing down from her legal issues.

In fact, she's leading all the way in saying she's ready to take the stand and let the truth speak for herself. She sat down with CBS news host Gail King for an interview that aired on Monday and she made her stance clear. She's not settling, not hiding, and definitely not scared of what might come out in court. She said she is not scared of the truth. So backstory, a group of her former dancers claimed she created a toxic work environment accusing her of sexual harassment, weight shaming and putting them in uncomfortable situations on tour. Lizzo says when she first got hit with the lawsuit, her reaction was simple, it's not true, but she didn't go firing back publicly right away,

explaining that she felt a responsibility to keep it measured because of what she represents to fans. Still, don't get it twisted. She's fighting this thing all the way through. Despite having the option to settle, she says that's not happening, calling that the easy way out and insisting she's standing firm because she believes the claims against her are flat out false. She doubled down on denying specific accusations, including fat-shaming allegations,

while acknowledging the case is ongoing and limiting how much she can say. Oh, classic, let me do like. a huge interview and let you know that I'm in the middle of my lawyers speak about it um you know what's so funny she also like gil asked her if she would testify if it goes to trial lizzo didn't hesitate she said absolutely adding that she would look fabulous doing it she said the truth will come out so you know a couple of weeks ago we were having the conversation about people who have like actually successfully been canceled member matilda gerf we need to add lizzo we should start a list because for the most part I feel like cancel culture is just like,

it's a part of the ecosystem we live in. Like you have to have it in order. But there's some people who it genuinely wipes out. And I feel like Lizzo is one of those people. I don't know if you even know this, but she like still very actively and frequently releases music. No, I didn't know that. But like, is the music good?

Because it's all, like, all of her music is just good, like radio hits. Right. But like if she's releasing bops, like you can't stop the bops. It's a little bit dated. I think a lot of her music is like that like self-love anthem over and over and over again, which is like feels a little. I feel it's also why like, what's her name, Megan Trainor is like struggling a little bit.

It's just like an corny old style of music that people aren't like drawn to anymore. But, you know, every now and then even Megan Trainer has a hit. I just feel like Lizzo really can't get arrested. I feel like when we talk about people who have been successfully canceled, we don't talk about Lizzo, but she really has. Yeah, and I do think it's more so like the people. Because sometimes you get canceled by like the industry and they won't touch you. But like people still like you, you know? Right.

Other times. By the way, people like that do find their way back into the industry. Because if you have a huge fan base who, like, wants to see you in movies or whatever, the industry does often come crawling back. Sometimes the industry refuses to cancel someone and the people are like, are you fucking serious? We don't want to see this rapist in a movie. Stop.

Yeah. So sometimes, like the industry, they still prop this person up, but like nobody's watching their stuff, buying their stuff, whatever. Like, it's kind of giving Valencia. Right. And I do feel that way about Lizzo, the fact that she's on CBS News with Gayle King. Like if she were an actual like person. No, I feel like the industry actually has also sort of let her go.

You don't see her like performing at award shows or like doing gigs. Like I think the audience and the industry has sort of like they were going to wait to see what happened with the trial. And then we also just like everyone stopped caring. You know, she's also a pop star. Like you can't really stop for too long of a time. Yeah. I think it was a combo of both. But I also think it's like what the allegations are against her is so the antithesis of her brand.

It's Ellen. So the antistices of her brand that, like, if she doesn't, if those things are not sure about her brand, she has no brand. Like, she has nothing. It's the Ellen of it all. Like, you can't have a show about kindness and be the nastiest bitch on the planet. You can't be a body positive queen who's calling all your dancer's fat. Like, yeah.

So it's JVN. You can't be like, you know, the feelings person and then the evil person. Yeah. Yeah. You can't do both. And I think those are like a lot of really effective cancellations is when we find that your real persona is the polar opposite of who you've been preaching. So it's like, take those things away and you have nothing.

Whereas sometimes someone like turns out to be like a diva or whatever. But it's like, oh, they never seemed like super nice. That's not why we like them. We like their music, whatever. Correct. So this trial should be interesting. I mean, you know, if the truth is on her side, then she deserves justice. But I do think regardless, like, it's kind of bananas that it's going to trial.

Don't you find? It's bananas. I would agree. I find that as well. At the end of the day, when people, when somebody, like, ride so hard for themselves, like, I am inclined to believe her only because she had an opportunity to settle.

She didn't. She's, you know, doing press. So I do believe her, but, like, why would a dancer lie about it? You know, like, I don't know. It's a tough situation. Yeah, it is. Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

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Our fifth and final story that will lead into the Little Summerhurst's recap is that Summerhouse's K.J. Dillard reads West Wilson's post-rewing an apology text to him live on air on Watch what happens live last night. So let me tell you that I didn't find last night's episode of Summerhouse even like remotely interesting. What was the central? What happened? Well, it was at the very end where Lindsay had her second annual freedom dinner. She was being so funny.

She brought up with Kyle. Like again, he's going on tour. Do you think that's good for your wife? You claim you want to start a family. And everyone's just sort of piling on Kyle. Amanda's just sitting there. And Kyle, this happened to all the last 30 seconds. so the driveway fight that's been teased happens next week because Carl and him get up and whatever

it's not even a fight between Carl and Kyle it's a fight between Lindsay and Kyle and he just looks at Amanda and he goes fuck you it was really crazy and the whole table everybody gets up West picks up his chair and moves it next to Amanda and like just like sits next to her Amanda's like smiling she's like not even affected um but before that like literally nothing happen. I'm actually trying to think. Yeah. Whatever. On Watcher Happens Live. So I happened to actually really like KJ. I did not like what he did on Watcher Rap and Live. And let me tell you why.

And it's funny that this is the story because like that was my main takeaway. First of all he was whispering on Watched Happen Live. I could not hear anyone else. Jamie Lynn Sigler was talking at a normal volume. I had to increase the volume every time KJ spoke. So the question was because, you know, he had made a couple of tweets that like, you know, Wes never apologized. him like, you know, centering himself. And so Andy was like, by the way, have you heard from West? And KJ was like, actually, yes.

He texted me after the reunion, but, you know, I had such bad anxiety. It's literally like I haven't even opened it. It's been unopened in my phone for the last week. Yeah, this is what he said. He said, I didn't even look at the message. I was a bit scared to look at it. I still haven't looked at it. There's only one unread message in my inbox and it's his.

So then Andy. Then like Andy asked, but then Andy was also like, you don't have to. Because it really was like an invasion. Uh-huh. KJ was more than happy to do it, which like, that's your friend. And I know Wes has made a lot of mistakes, but it's kind of like what we say about Jesse. Like if that's your best friend, like, of course you can hold him accountable, but you don't

have to like leave him out to dry. Yeah. And it just felt like KJ was just a little too excited to like, I don't know, expose his friend when at the end of the day, West's text was actually quite lovely. Yeah, this is what the text. And it was so personal and it really should not have been read on TV. No. And it's like, it's worse that KJ hadn't read it before because it's like you don't know what's in there.

and you're really going to read this live on television. They went to an audience Q&A and Andy said read it. And if you don't want to share it, you don't have to. But if you want to, you can. And so he read it and then said he wanted to share it. This is it. I wanted to thank you for your articulation and kindness yesterday despite being hurt.

I've been off social and I think I lost touch with how much hurt there was. I'm incredibly sorry. Also, sending you love in regards to your mental health. You shared a lot yesterday and I know it mightn't carry much weight now, but I'm always rooting for the best for you. I know it will take some time, but whenever you feel like you're ready, lunch or a phone call would mean a lot in the spirit of healing. No need to respond.

Take your time. After he shared the text, KJ admitted that it hurt to review that. He said it just hurts because it's like me and him were so close. I mean, in terms of like how apology texts can go, that's a pretty stellar one, if I'm being honest. So the reading of it on TV, I just feel, I honestly thought it was really unnecessary and rude. And I felt like Andy regretted asking KJ to do that. And so he said, like, you don't have to. but KG was like genuinely more than happy to.

I don't know, I just didn't like it. No, it's a bad look. Especially like you came on the show as KJ's as West's friend. They have prior history. Prior history. Are they both from St. Louis or like they have something. I don't know. I just, it was icky.

It was mean and like not me here defending West. Like Wes is on his podcast with Sophie Cunningham. Like I saw a club this morning, business as usual. It's talking about the reunion and the leaks like in a very like so. way and unemotional. He talked about the reunion. He said it was like just very dark form of therapy. You know, there's never really a situation in life where you are exposed to hearing like how much

feedback about your actions like affect everybody. So like it's just a lot. But you know, time will start to heal. And the reunion is just the first step, which is true. And as much as like they did a bad thing. They did do a bad thing. Like everybody else making it about them being like so affected. It's just a lot, you know.

And I feel like with Scand of all that happened a lot, the two of them had been together for like 10 years. And Lala and everybody like making the moment about like their podcast and whatnot. And everybody was so mad because they were like deceived for a very long time. Him and Ariana were together for 10 years. They were hooking up during the season. Like it was the deception was insane. Like deep.

Psychopathic levels. You could never trust these people again. I do believe the timeline of Amanda in West. I think they had like a month or so where they were lying about it because they were trying to figure it out and like why do you need to tell someone like I understand. I understand why they did but that's not what they should have done. And just it's just everyone just doing like the most and like being so hurt like just stop. Well Jesse Solomon was like breaking my heart on last night's episode because you know I'm telling you he's in like his sad boy era. There's just like a there's a brokenness inside of him. And last night he was like you know what it is. It's like I just feel so lonely. And I think I'm like trying to. to fix that with these relationships and I keep going after the wrong people like Sierra. But there's like a brokenness inside of me that I need to fix. It was quite self-reflective. He also brought everyone to this camp for like a- Well, you know who would have been there for him. Lexi. He brought everyone to like this camp where like, you know, kids with cancer can go and like

spend the summers with their siblings. And it was so cute. They all were like volunteering. It was actually like so sweet. I forgot that about Jesse that he had cancer. And it was just like, I don't know if he went to this camp, what his connection was, but it was really sweet. That is really sweet. The big banner moment from the episode is that, you know, they do a beach day and everyone's talking about everyone. Mia and Amanda are sitting on beach chairs just talking about like, you know, it feels like Sierra and West are like kind of moving quickly back to something because, you know, they

had that double date or like it's just like, and they're talking about how, you know, he needs to be so different. And Amanda's like, and like she's such a special type. This is what Amanda said. Like Sierra's such a special type of girl. Like he has to do a complete like, you know, 180 lobotomy like to be right for her. If he doesn't, like, you don't understand, like, I ride for Sierra. Like, if Sierra said to me, like, we're cutting off West, like, I would never talk to West again.

Yeah, it was really crazy. Yeah, that's what's crazy at this season. It's just, like, watching how far she digs this hole for herself. And the editing is now, you can tell, like, this is so post-Squimanda ball editing because everything, every time West says something, they cut to Amanda. Every time Amanda, like, they're being really funny about it. And, like, just the music, like, when she said that, it was like, Oh my God.

Yeah. But it wasn't like a crazy episode. Okay, well, I'll watch it. The big driveway fight happens next week. And I don't even know why Carl and Kyle would be fighting because Kyle gets so upset at this dinner. They're having dinner in the house because everyone's attacking him for like DJing and not being like a real. And I get like, he can't articulate his emotions. But now knowing what we know, he's basically saying like, oh, you're all coming at me for like not being a family man.

But like she doesn't even want to have a family with me. Like we're not in a real marriage. Like this is fraudulent. But instead he just says fuck you to Amanda And so everybody's like, girl, are you okay? So he storms out and Carl chases after him trying to calm him down And then I guess next week we'll see like him calming him down Turns into a fight between the two of them.

I have no idea. Yeah, no, it's crazy what the like reaction would have been to Carl, Kyle this morning had West Mandeval not happen because that's a horrible thing to say to your wife. Of course. And it was just like the way he said it also was like extremely, it was like, fuck you. Like it was like he meant every syllable. in every letter. Every consonant.

Yeah. So chilling. Yeah. Now everyone's like, yeah, fuck you. All right, let's dive into Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment where Jackie and I try to help back. And, you know, how about our community? If you guys ever need advice and you think, you know, what would those savvy young things over at the Toast think? Well, you can write us an email, Dear Toasters at gmails.com or head over to our website, the Toastpodcast.com to get your submission read online. Of course, we always keep it anonymous and we'll do our best to help you out. Are you ready, Jack? I'm ready, Tert.

Dear Toasters, this is an emergency, please help me. Here's some context. My husband and I have an 11-week-old daughter. My husband's grandfather has been in prison for five years for sex crimes against a teenager, a teenage relative. He's up for parole this week. My husband and his family believe he is innocent, but he was convicted on multiple accounts and has already been denied parole twice. If he's released, he will move in with my in-laws and be registered as a Tier 3 sex offender. This means a registered sex offender could be living in the same home where our daughter would normally go for holidays, parties and sleepovers and my husband's family is acting like this is not a concern.

How do I keep my daughter safe in this situation? Like, no. It's giving no contact. I'm sorry. You'll have to go somewhere else for the holidays. It's giving no is a full sentence. Yeah, I don't think you need to explain yourself. It's nice that they believe he's innocent.

And let's say worst case scenario he is. Like you did everything you can to protect your daughter. Like you shouldn't feel bad about that for one second. Like good day, sir. It's going to be a no for me. You could have Christmas at your house invite. your in-laws, of course. Everyone's welcome except for, you know,

Granny old grandpa. No, kindly no. Yeah, oh, and your husband's going to have to get on board real fucking quick. Oh, yeah. This needs to be like, you can't even negotiate. Not even like, okay, we'll stay for like an hour and he never's like, it gets to hold the baby. Unless she can be on my lap. No.

No. No. You'll host at your house. You can go to your families. We'll just take a vacation. I don't give a fuck, okay? Yeah. No.

That was an easy one. Yeah. Hey, girlies, I need him by somewhat to do. My husband and I moved into a new house. And while unpacking some boxes, I found a bunch of old notebooks. While flipping through them to see if they were anything important, I found that one that appeared to be a journal that my husband kept. The last entry was about how unhappy he was in our relationship.

The entry was dated two months before he proposed. We've been now married for two years. We have a six-month-old. Things between us have been good. But I was really sad and surprised to read that just two months before he proposed, he was so unhappy. It makes me feel icky about the proposal. Do I bring it up?

Do I let it go? since things seem fine and he has not written in it since. I don't want him to be angry that I read his journal in the first place. Thanks. Irrelevant. Irrelevant, of course, given the date. And also, like, you're really not ever allowed to be mad at something someone wrote in their journal because people are allowed to have thoughts.

Yeah. And you're reading it. And I believe you, when you say it was an accident, sure. It wasn't. No, I, like, of course it wasn't. I want to see who's important. Like, you knew it. Okay, so you opened it up and you knew immediately it was a journal.

and then you went to the last entry. Like, please. Be honest with us. Girl, we see you. We see you. It's fine. Don't lie to us. Okay, lie to your journal.

So you can't be mad when you read someone's journal because, first of all, that's such a fucking invasion of privacy. It's like one of the most invasive things you can do. Sorry you didn't like what you saw, but he obviously was just like working through stuff because he did decide to propose and now you have a family and like you say it's all good. Don't make trouble. It's like seriously. Also, like issues that you have before you're engaged, like dating issues.

like they some most of them like work themselves out you know I'm sure I had a thought in college being like oh this guy and it was Ben like you know yeah no but like the issues that you have at present whatever they are they're actually like different issues usually than like what at least for me like then the things when you were dating and so like you guys are a whole new family or a new couple like it's really irrelevant and sometimes like some things can be solved when you do like decide to commit to somebody you know and like propose and like start a life and start a family and like some of those other things get washed away like it's literally irrelevant yeah and like you what are you going to say hey i was reading your journal i'm sure if you mentioned it to him

he might not even remember what you're talking about he and like he i gather that he's not a person who like continuously and frequently journals so he was just like going through it he had like a rough couple of months and he journaled yeah or he had a hard day so like he wrote something down because you had a fight or something like irrelevant oh great jacky's right like pre-marital relationship issues, barring, you know, like cheating, like a serial cheater. Like, they work themselves out. Like, if you found out that two months before you got engaged, like, Ben was, like, struggling in your relationship, like, what would that mean to you today? I don't know.

But, like, it doesn't change where you're at today. Let me actually think. If Ben, like, had written a journal. No, it would have been fine. Well, you're also, like, you're very, um... I'm so emotional. Yeah, you're very intense. And sensitive. Yeah. I'm very... very rational. Pragmatic.

Yeah. And so like even though something I'd heard of, I'm like, I won't let it if rationally I shouldn't. You know? Yeah. And sometimes for me when emotions are involved, like ration has no place. Yeah. But like, no, seriously, that was 10 years ago.

If you found out that two months before, he was just like having like a bunch of feelings. Yeah, it's fine. I guess it would be like sort of disruptive because that's so against your narrative. Like it's so against like the story of your relationship. That we tell ourselves. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

And so I can understand my fear that would be disruptive. But I don't know the story of this girl's relationship. You and a lot of people have like, you know, like bumps along the way. So I don't think that it should be that disruptive. But you know what? I think for you, don't. I can be. Yes.

Okay. Thank you. That would be like, that would be weird to find out because he like proposed so soon. So it was like, wait. No, of course. It was a whirlwind romance. What are you talking about? It's perfect.

All right. Our third and final. Hey girlies. So I've been dating my boyfriend for about nine months now. Everything has been fabulous. He's 100% of pee jam. Sure. We just ran into our first problem. And I'm not sure if it's a deal breaker or not. His dad and stepmother had a backyard barbecue over the weekend. And this was the first time meeting his side of the family. After dinner, my boyfriend, his brother and his step sister. And I changed into swimsuits. We had drinks by the pool and the hot tub. after a few drinks, his brother made a joke about my boyfriend sleeping with a step-sister years ago. I was shocked and grossed out. The next day I asked him about it and he explained that they were in college and it was one drunk

hookup. I'm still extremely grossed out, but I don't know if this is breakup-worthy. Help. That's just like so unfortunate because like it's not breakup-worthy. It's not. Really? Like that he hooked up with his step-sister. But I need to know when the parents got married.

Is this a step-sister who you lived in the same house with and grew up with or like when you guys were both grown in college, like your parents started to get married. And so you guys met and like, yeah, maybe for a minute you're like, oh, our parents get married and then like we, you know. Yeah. But or did you guys go to like middle school together and sleep in the same house? Yeah, of course. Because if that's the case, I just want to say if that's the case, that's a deal breaker.

That's disgusting. But say it's not. Say it's like their parents met when they were in college. So they met. Yeah, I have to say I think it's disgusting and I do think it's a deal breaker. I really do. And I know it's hard to get a boyfriend. And so like we have to be like.

I think people are too into ick culture and deal breaker culture. So I try to be a little strict with my deal breaker cards, but I'm handing you a deal breaker card. Like I think in no world is this normal. Sorry. I need more backstory and information because it's like. Like I actually have decided I don't want more backstory and information because I think this is icky. It is.

It's uncomfortable. Of course it's uncomfortable. It's not ideal. And you know, if they did do this, they should have never told anyone and took into their graves. Absolutely. The fact that the whole family knows about it. This is very uncomfortable.

No, and now you have to every family event, you're going to be around a girl that your boyfriend slept with. Like, I'm sorry, this is wrong and bad and deal breaker. Yeah. I don't know. Sorry. What if, like, he's really... Well, unless he's wealthy.

The one, you know? He's not. I don't know. It's only been nine months. Maybe you could, like, find other reasons to break up with him, you know? Like, start, like, making a list. I just feel like sleeping with your sister's a pretty good reason. I feel good about that.

We all loved Clueless, okay? Different. Not at all. They actually grew up like siblings. No, they never grew up in the same house. When. No, but he used to come over as a brother. Very unnecessary, like, plot, twist was like,

why couldn't he just have been like an intern for the dad? Why did he have to be the dad's ex-wife's kid? Right? That's what it was. Yes. But he like came over, you know, a week, every week, like as her older brother, you know, it was a brotherly relationship. He should have just been the neighbor who had like an interest in law. Yeah.

And I guess it's like if you're going to do this, it has to be your person. Like if they're going to have sex, the two of them, like they need to get married because then it's fine. If they got married and their parents are married, that's just like a cute funny story. Yeah. But you can't just do it to have sex like and look at like that was really stupid. So it's not even just about the icky that he did that with his sister. Like that was such a stupid move to have sex with someone that is going to be in your family for a long time. And when we talk about like siblings, no, like step whatever, there's only one right way to do it.

And if you ever seen the movie because I said so, Mandy Moore starts dating Gabriel Mach, who was like, oh, you know who his dad is? The guy who's in prison from 7th Heaven. What's his name? Whatever. He plays Gabriel Mach's dad. And Diane Keaton is Mandy Moore's mom. and so the two of them start dating, and so their parents end up getting set up.

The kids have to be first. Okay, but like say the parents were first in the movie. The parents are meeting so they are like bringing everyone together. Your boyfriend's son. Yeah, okay, it's actually, it's not bad. It's not bad. However, if they just like had sex once and then both went on their merry way and brought up,

no, those two need to get married now. Yeah, I just want to go back to Clueless really quickly because there are so many ways in which it would have been like, completely fine, if not better. Because here, I have another... Well, it is based on Jane Austen, so... Oh, they were always getting freaky with their cousins. Yeah, probably.

Okay. I have a million alternatives. Of course, so I think we were honoring the text. It could have been, like, the neighbor, because, you know, Cher's mom passed away. And so, like, maybe it was, like, the neighbor's mom was, like, best friends to Cher's mom. So, like, they were, like, siblings. And they grew up sort of, like, like, siblings' neighbors.

The mom, they still live next door. And he also wants to become a lawyer. So we started working for Cher's dad. Sherr's dad started, you know, seeing him like a son the son he never had. I just feel like, there was a million fucking ways I could have done it. Yeah, no, they didn't want to as the thing. They didn't want to. Because of course, all of those things would have been

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