The Toast - No Necklace For You: Tuesday, May 28th, 2024

Episode Date: May 28, 2024

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Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to the Toast, and happy Tuesday that feels like a Monday, but thankfully it's not a Monday because God is looking out for us, so it's Tuesday. Like, how great is that? So great. That's exactly how it feels, like a Monday, but then you take a second and realize it's a Tuesday. And all's well. And the whole world opens up. Endless possibilities for joy and laughter.

And it's not just a Tuesday, it's a Tuesday. Very true. And what are you just a Tuesday, it's a Tuesday. Very true. And what are you chewing on today, Turtle Lou? I wish it was your sourdough because I heard you had such a revolutionary weekend with your sourdough. And let me tell you, you came dressed today like a piece of sourdough.

Like this look is so I make sourdough for my family. I make sourdough successfully. Yes, she has risen. Since last time you guys saw me, I realized I've baked four loaves of bread since Friday's episode. Okay, it's giving gluten. It's giving gluten.

I made two rolls of sandwich bread, two sourdoughs, one sourdough that didn't rise, one sourdough that did. And the thing is, like, now that I've got it. It's over. I've got it it's over got it who needs bread not me really even sourdough which is like easier to digest so it's meant to

be oh sorry I was hyping you up I thought you meant who needs bread like from the grocery store not me no oh no no I'm saying like who needs a loaf of bread I'll bake oh I would love one ma'am I would love to bake you a loaf of sourdough so I'm still perfecting my course formula but like the tweaks that I made we are so on the right path like I can always perfect and perfect but like we have bread I had a slice of sourdough last night a little butter a little salt sourdough yummy yummy love that love a jingle and let me just say I think I speak for everyone listening to the show like we are so happy for you how like isn't it the best feeling to like set your mind and just like fucking do it it really is the best feeling halfway through the

baking process you have to like take the lid off so that the top of the crust can get golden brown and when I took the lid off, I saw it. You just knew. The way I've never been so happy, like screaming in my house. You guys, she knew. Like it was in that moment that she knew. And I have to thank everyone for their support and their genuine interest in my journey.

Like I got so many messages from people being like, I've never been so invested in a stranger's loaf of bread. Can I tell you something? Yet here we are. You know, making your own sourdough is definitely like a genre of content. And I'm going to be honest and say like that content has never been for me. It's not the place that I'm at yet in my life. And you did it in such a way.

I was, Ben's like, what are you laughing at? Giggling. You were being so funny. The bread lame. The bread lame. Muddle the tailor. Right you laughing at giggling you were being so funny the bread lame the bread lame muddle the tailor right no no you were being so yeah yeah you were being so funny like not you making fiddler on the roof references like it was honestly it was content at its finest so thank you for that that's for the sourdough girlies but the not sourdough girlies too and just like she's getting emotional it's very emotional thank you for your words of praise like that really means so much I know I know that on its face like nobody wants

to hear about Jackie's breath I wouldn't say that actually but continue but between the patreon which gave me so much encouragement I realized like how many of us are on this journey and how many people were like that was my first loaf like you have to keep going and let me tell you the best piece of advice that I got and I think I saw it in reels if you do a recipe and your bread comes out for cocked don't keep going to a different recipe like oh I'm going to try this one next this one next figure out what it is about that recipe that didn't work for you like keep tweaking the recipe there's not going to be one recipe on a food blog that's going to be perfect for your environment you if it doesn't work what was it too sticky too dry like then think what you need to change for next time don't keep recipe jumping I did have to jump from ballerina farm because

like I thought we were way too far apart which we were but shout out to ballerina farm because if it wasn't for her starter kit I don't know where I would have started like yeah now that I'm a professional I could probably make my own dough and my own starter in my sleep oh but like her pamphlet in my sleep but her pamphlet like really showed me the ropes so I'm so grateful to her like I'm not gonna like bite the hand that fed me no way no how do you feel like we need to start like a starter company called The Toast? Because I do. So yeah like we are in the bread business. Correct. We could start like a rehydrated starter company. Just throwing it out there. Called The Toast. I'm gonna wait till my starter gets more mature but then yeah maybe I'll start selling my starter. Maybe. Maybe. And what if you did? What if? You never know where life could take you. Exactly. Now where did life take you over this long weekend? It's been such a minute

since we all podcasted together. So much has happened. I think we all forget the great roast of Friday's episode. Like so much happened on Friday then we just kind of like slid into the weekend. But I did want to hop on here and say thank you to everyone for you know coming to our defense and just you know using code craig20 it means the world to my husband um and I felt really uh I felt really good after Friday's episode like speaking speaking truths is so important and I think we did just that yeah I think so too I think a lot of people are wondering if we have heard from anyone um no no No. No. It is what it is. It is what it is. We said what we said.

My window for receiving an apology has closed. So I'm no longer open. She's no longer open. Okay. So we shall see. The battle of the canned cocktails continues. That it does. That it does.

How was your weekend? My weekend was kind of amazing. A lot happened. I sit here before you a changed woman in many many ways the first and I think the most obvious way that if you follow me on Instagram you probably already know is that I've decided to take up golf and I've long been an advocate against golf and I think a lot of people are like what the fuck but it was only a matter of time you know it's a sport that doesn't require a lot of physical activity it occurs outside and it centers around you know lunch and alcohol like I think we all knew it was gonna happen for me and the outfits like are are part of like the culture and it's like super cute so yeah I took two golf

lessons I played two holes I loved it I had the best time and I'm probably gonna do it again this weekend so I really don't know what to say I feel I feel awkward honestly I feel like you know golf it's fun hit the ball have a drink have a laugh but like I the 18 holes is where it gets crazy like that's too much of one thing so on hole number two the siren sounded because it was raining and like you can play but if there's lightning you have to get off the course so that little siren and I'm not gonna lie and say I wasn't like so happy that lunch was starting and I didn't have to play 16 more holes were you planning on playing 18 holes I was like planning on seeing where the day took me like no because Margo was coming to meet us for pickleball so like I had a hard stop but it's definitely crazy

like that first hole took it out of me yeah I feel like it's actually so crazy when we like sit back and reflect on the sport of golf like it's so crazy that they're out there for 18 holes and like the women could never and would never like how are you just going to be at and it's all mostly grown men families wives like eight it doesn't really have to be 18 holes and I've definitely gotten myself into some sort of situation because like nobody on the planet had a better weekend than my husband. Like his dream came true. He's been asking me.

And I was hesitant to even admit to enjoying it because I didn't want to make him happy. Like I'm a normal human being like that. But we've always had this like general understanding. Like sure, wild out. But like when we have a family, like sort of behavior is it's just not like put your clubs in storage you're not golfing for the next five years and now I feel like maybe that I'm into it he thinks I'm reneging on that or like the our plans have changed my plans have

remained the same I think it could be the opposite where it's like oh yeah we both golf so if I'm not golfing you're not golfing yeah or or you watch the children I'm out golfing, you're not golfing. Yeah. Or you watch the children. I'm out. You're going golfing. Yeah, with the girls. Claudia. 30 and the girls are hitting the links. No, I feel like this is actually so good.

Like, make him think, like, we're all golfing. And then when you're not golfing, he shouldn't be golfing neither. Yeah. I think that's better. And I think the golf world was kind of waiting for me. Like, they almost knew. Because the second I admitted, you know, guiltily, like, I felt definitely awkward. Like, admitted to golfing. Oh, everyone wants a piece of turdy.

Sponsorships. Sponsorships. PGA Tour. Titleist. Yeah, no, I already have my, like, custom clubs. Like, they're being made. And I. You really?

Yeah, like, from, like, the best company, like, out there. That's what everyone. The Creme. That's what everyone's saying. De La Creme. And they also. I told Ben, I need a custom bag. You know how the Kardashians like had like everyone's name?

I forget when they bought those houses in Palm Springs. It was like a gift that Kris got everyone. Yeah, I think it was like Christmas something. I need a tourney on bag like. Not to center myself, but like I kind of want custom clubs. No, Jackie, I'm telling you. Do you think they'd be interested? I think they would. Like I think that, you know, there's a lot of opportunity here. I'm surrounded by golf. I know.

In my everyday. I actually never even thought to get clubs. No, but Jackie, like. Maybe if I had clubs, I would play. And it's like, you don't even really have to play. Just like being outside. Like I'm trying to get tan. Like it's, I'm accomplishing a lot of things while I'm playing golf. Like quality time with my husband. We we love tanning we love getting some steps in super important like I don't know it's checking a lot of boxes for me I've I've had a I've done a complete 180 that's so great it's so great harmony in the software household another major theme of my weekend was movies Ben and I like we just got into a groove where every night, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, we watched a movie that we hadn't seen. And with the theme of the films, the genre was based on a true story because I didn't want to just like waste my time. So Friday night,

I watched Marie Antoinette, which I had never seen. The Kirsten Dunst, Sofia Coppola movie. So good. So good. Loved every minute of it. Like went down rabbit hole, like looking into Marie Antoinette. Saturday night, we watched Woman in Gold Gold which I'd also never seen and I had so many thoughts what a crazy story about you know Nazi art thievery very you know very important Ryan Reynolds was miscast like the lawyer is supposed to be like this nerdy Jewish guy first of all like Ryan Reynolds is a lot of things he ain't Jewish and slap on a pair of glasses he's still Ryan Reynolds they were trying to make him like nerdy like his tie was loose and he wore glasses like he's still like literally the least Jewish looking person on the planet like in no world would Ryan Reynolds ever be Jewish and in no world would ever like a lawyer

like a loser lawyer look like Ryan Reynolds like it was too unbelievable and not in the good way. Like as in not believable. He borderline ruined the movie, but the story was so fabulous and so worth telling that I was able to look past Ryan Reynolds miscast. But also Helen Mirren is not a Jewess. Helen Mirren is not a Jewess, but her being cast in important Jewish roles doesn't bother me because me neither. No, I just want to say me neither.

I just obviously like have to hold space for both your no I I just have to hold a mirror to what you just said because it's like a contradiction yeah technically Helen Mirren also played Golda Meir the first female prime minister of Israel in the film Golda which I also saw which was incredible um yeah and then Ben and I as we were watching we were like googling because we're like Helen Mirren's Jewish right she's just like always taking on these roles and I feel as though Helen Mirren is not Jewish that's definitely a fact but I feel as though Helen Mirren wants to tell Jewish stories you know like it's important to her like and then I went to her Instagram and she's posting about the hostages like I'm gonna say this Helen Mirren is a queen

and an ally and I'm not gonna clown on her Helen Mirren is a queen. And an ally. And I'm not going to clown on her for not being Jewish. And she did the role justice. Whereas, I feel like Ryan Reynolds, like, seriously took away from the movie. So it's case dependent. It's not, you don't have to be Jewish to play Jewish parts. No. And that's why, like, I'm not really that upset with Maisel.

She did such a good job. I thought she was Jewish for the first couple of years that show was on, you know? I think she is. Nope. Rachel Bros such a good job. I thought she was Jewish for the first couple of years that show was on, you know? I think she is. Nope. Rachel Brosnan is not Jewish. Alex Bornstein is Jewish. Jackie, I know this to be 100% fact, but please, look it up.

But that's the thing. You think she's Jewish, she's doing such a good job, I'll allow it. Yeah. If you're gonna, you know, discredit, if you're gonna distract, you have to get out of the film,

Ryan Reynolds. But if you're gonna make me literally think you're Jewish, Helen Mir and Rachel Brosnan? Yeah. And are you going to confirm? She is not Jewish. So it's case dependent, yes. Okay. And then last night, we were watching a movie.

And we watched all these movies on Prime Video, which is a great platform because you can watch both my comedy specials there. But I prefer to buy a movie on Prime as opposed to like iTunes or Apple TV, even though I have an Apple TV, because they have this fabulous feature. Like, I don't know what, you know, AI algorithm they use, but when they say customers also bought, like that is, it's the best right place to find recommendations. Like I, if I'm in the mood to watch a movie and I know the vibe of the movie I want to watch, I will go to Amazon, select that movie and go to customers also watch

because 10 out of 10, the movie I'm looking for is there. So I helped them pick a movie and we were scrolling in Titanic and Ben just happened to mention he'd never seen Titanic. I was shocked. Click. It reminded me of the last time I had that, when you learn something new about your husband

that like actually like freaks you out that you didn't know that? Something so basic and elemental. That was when I found out a couple years ago Ben had never seen My Cousin Vinny. Yeah, I think Titanic is crazier because it was the biggest movie of its time. My Cousin Vinny, I guess, was also big and also Oscar nominated.

But just felt a little more niche. But My Cousin Vinny is so Ben's personality personality you know yeah yeah whatever yeah so we watched titanic which i'm so glad for for ben of course but i think you needed a refresher too and i knew like when when he said that i knew that we were gonna watch it and i knew i was gonna go down a rabbit hole and i knew we were gonna add it to the list of things jackie was on to before turny was and oh my god the movie really holds up in court. Like, really, that's some good shit. Ben literally loved it.

First of all, he cried at the end when, like, they have, like, that scene where, like, after everything happens, you know? They're, like, the last scene in the movie where the boat is back and, like, she walks up the stairs and finds Jack and, like, everyone's watching. But this morning, I'm, like, we went to bed. We didn't talk about the movie. And this morning, I'm doing my hair. Ben sits down on the bed. He gets out of the shower. And he's, like, quiet. And he's, like, we went to bed, we didn't talk about the movie, and this morning I'm doing my hair, Ben sits down on the bed, he gets out of the shower, and he's like quiet, and he's like

such a good movie, like 12 hours later, I was like, no, I know so good, now of course, everyone's sending me that, oh, sorry that's not why I brought up the movie, I brought up the movie because I was sharing on my Instagram and everyone was like what did Ben think about Jack also fitting on the door like my least favorite trope in like a millennial meme culture is like there were room for two of them on the door and okay so perhaps my least favorite thing it's like one thing can be a joke from the movie but like now the whole movie is distilled down to the door like not even that it was funny for a

second like can we move on Jackie not even that like watch the movie they literally address it she gets on the door and then she tries to help him on the door and with both of them it flips over like literally it wasn't possible they tried yeah yeah now jackie i then called um to talk about titanic because who else do you call in a moment like that and jackie shared so many interesting facts with me some of them i had known you know the couple holding each other, Macy's Jewish couple, they didn't want to get on the boats, yada, yada. Two things she shared that really, really shook.

And one borderline ruined the movie for me. Because part of the movie that's so infuriating is like the classes. Classism? The class system? And the classism. The classism. Like, okay, it's life or death now.

And we're boarding lifeboats by how much money you have. And then Rose's mom being like, will the lifeboats be boarded to boarding to class? Like, seriously, shut the fuck up, lady. And like how so much of it was like the wealthy people on the boats listening to the steerage, the folks in steerage and like the third class passengers like literally drowning and freezing to death. And also there's that scene in the movie where the gate is closed and they and it feels like they're being locked out and they're on the bottom level where it's flooding yeah yeah and you shared so I shared in the book that I read about the Titanic is that the emerge the evacuation really wasn't based on class like a lot more um third class passengers died for a couple of

reasons one there were more third class passengers in general so like the percentages are just there's more and two a lot of them were immigrants and didn't speak English and like there was already chaos and confusion on the boat and even English-speaking passengers like didn't understand or believe that the ship was sinking so then also and more so in third class like they didn't they're the language barrier like stopped a lot of them from getting on the boats and understanding what was happening um but they weren't barred from getting on the boats okay but there were like not enough boats for everyone yes at the end of the day there wouldn't have been enough boats for all of the passengers but

even the boats that did go out the lifeboats they weren't filled to the brim because like i said like they were having a hard time getting people on the boats in the beginning they did not believe that the ship was sinking like you were kind of if in the first few tens of minutes like you were getting on like you were the conspiracy theorist that thought the ship was going down like people were like the ship is unsinkable it's not going right right I mean them calling it the unsinkable is like literally so crazy oh and then when that little French fuck with the mustache gets on the lifeboat after literally killing all these people it's 100 his fault um that was really tough that was really tough the good news is he lived a miserable life afterwards good because also a lot

of like um able-bodied men who did survive the titanic they were then like had a very unhappy life afterwards because people like would look at them and think like. Yeah. Why did you survive. And not a woman. Like women and children should have gone first. And it was just. And in some respects they're right. But there were also open spaces. Right. Right.

So. I mean in an emergency environment like that. Like where it's absolute chaos. Like it happened. I told you also the length. Yes. This was the second fact that Jackie shared with me. That really shook me to my core. From the time that the ship hit the iceberg to when it fully sunk

fully sunk is the exact length of the movie like the scene where the boat is flooding is the exact length of time that like the boat flooded it took for the boat to go down but also remember it hit the iceberg and then I was like oh that was weird yeah no and then it's like flooding in one part and it's a very big boat. It takes a while to flood. So like all of this chaos is happening. And of course now we can sit here and be like, well, the men should have done this and they should have gone, you know,

everyone up on the deck. But like, it was just a chaotic environment where also a lot of people weren't believing what was happening. Now, Victor Garber slayed the house down boots. And there's an interesting moment where, you know, Rose is running around with Jack, like trying to get off the boat and she runs into Victor Garber and like literally an hour before Victor Garber

knows the boat is about to sink nobody else knows and the first person he tells is Rose the fact that she was still on the boat when she was the first person to know that shit was going down unexcusable unexcusable what you think she should have just jumped ship literally she should she was on a lifeboat and she jumps off even though Jack was safe like after she unhandcuffed him she also wanted to help other people uh she didn't help a single person in the movie except herself she didn't okay yeah she should have i mean it wouldn't have changed the outcome of what happened in real life but like she should have run down to Jack's friends in steerage and been like hey get up on deck right right oh and that shit fiance now I have seen I had seen Titanic before but of course like the intricacies and different facts like didn't

I didn't remember but I had seen this musical that's being it's like an off-broadway musical that's really really popular in the city I feel like it's gonna end up on Broadway it's called Titanic and it's like if Celine Dion was on the Titanic and but they they it's like an off-broadway musical that's really really popular in the city I feel like it's gonna end up on Broadway it's called Titanic and it's like if Celine Dion was on the Titanic and but they they it's like the movie too and they use all the characters and there's so many like funny jokes about the fiance because the fiance was definitely giving like in the movie like gay he was like so like gay for sure and and the musical they make it like a whole thing he's like played by a gay guy and it's so funny and then it reminded me like he really does give gay energy in the in the film

especially because like there's no love between him and Rose he kind of doesn't care but he just wants like someone cares about how it looks like to society yeah but like it's not like he loves her no not at all um so really good rabbit hole to go down. And then there's actually a new, Titanic is in the news again. Yes, that's a story today because you watched Titanic last night. I mean, typically I would have just sat with it by myself, but because you care today and there's a story today, it of course is our fifth and final.

The window is open. The Titanic window is open. How was your weekend besides obviously bread and, you know, things of that nature? so my weekend was good the first half was really strong like memorial day ting sun fun love water play um but then the back half there was some sickness in the house so that was sad so then we were more so inside baking bread. Beautiful. But I had a little bit of both. Best of both worlds. Indoor, outdoor play. And when you got dressed for the toast this morning,

did you look at that dress and say, this sleeve says sourdough? Like it does. No. When I got dressed for the toast this morning, something else that kind of took over my weekend, I don't even think I told you this. Why?

Because it happened last night. And I'm just like, sometimes you just don't feel like dealing. What, you saw like a mouse? No. but of a similar elk okay household issues our ac was out i told you that actually you did you did yeah you remember i said i accidentally said heat was out yeah no and you facetime me and you just like looks like oh it looks like tony soprano i'm wearing a wife here in my bed by the way are

you saying wife beater like what is the word? White tank top? No, but like for a Hanes wife beater, like the classic Tony Soprano. Like what are we calling that? It doesn't feel right. The thing is I never wear a WB. So like I'm just going to say it. Once a year. It's going to be a one day only thing.

Yeah. Because my AC was out. So this morning, our AC is being fixed this morning but like i know it's going to be a hot box in here i want to go with something light wear a little romper a little dress and so also something that fits well j'adore you look adorable thank you this is a sort of romper that's like cute sitting not cute standing well thank god we sit for a living tgtg and i feel like temperature wise it's it's the right day for it love that it's a gorgeous day in new york it's gonna be a traversing kind of day i've got my hokas on you know oh nice yeah i i gotta get some activity in with my aura ring have

you started yours yet it hasn't arrived yet wait major major news i feel like i'm about to blow like the lid on something huge that's going on in New York City. Okay. You know the kosher grocer? I do. It's kind of, like, the center of my universe. And, like, millions of New Yorkers. Mm-hmm.

I got a picture today from my friend. I don't want to name her because I don't want her to, like, you know, get in trouble for blowing the lid on this thing. But, and it's not for sale yet. But she sent me a picture. She was there this morning. No, the frozen yogurt machine is in the building. Now there have long been rumors that they are going to be adding frozen yogurt

to the kosher grocer because they've got like a bagel stand, coffee shop. It's like kind of like a little mini market inside there, fruits, things of that nature. And somebody had told me many, many weeks ago that they were going to start selling frozen yogurt. And honestly, I didn't believe it because seriously, there's like the number one rumor mill is the kosher grocer in

this town like you can't believe a word you hear at the kosher grocer i saw it today with my own eyes in the picture but from could have been ai no no from someone trustworthy that you trust not someone who would send you the pope and a puffer no no it wasn't ai generated it was my friend alicia she doesn't even know how to like work ai she's trustworthy okay okay so that's about to happen and summer's about to be like unstoppable here in new york city busting cuss speaking of kosher grocer i had to make a soup yesterday because your whole family's sick because my family was sick so we got you know the meats and it was such a tasty soup it's like crazy to have soup what was it 93 degrees yesterday memorial day weekend I'm making a soup like I have barbecue

in the fridge ready to go I have it on the grill instead I'm making a chicken soup but it is what it is and then I had my own bread to go along with it I had sandwich bread and sourdough and that's just that's on evolving as a person that's on evolution you know what I mean like I'm just a totally brand new person like not overnight but it's just crazy how you think of like six years ago like I couldn't even make my own avocado toast I've ordered it it's so true and now I pick an avocado off the tree I feel like that's really like the theme of our lives these days. Like change, change is good. Change is good. You know, and it's, it's natural. You just got to embrace it. You do. You just kind of got to let the tides of change wash over you. Yeah. But isn't that so crazy? Like if I woke up and I want an avocado toast, like I would order it. Yeah,

that is crazy. That's an insane thing to order i agree no shade if you're in if you're in that era of your life just know though it doesn't last forever it gets better but we've got a great show today i believe we do have a great show we have a lot of stories organized into the fast five and i think we should get on with them. You know I'm so down. Like you know me I'm always down. Baby are you down down down down down. Such a good song.

Yeah. Are you down? Indeed I am. Without further ado it is time for the Fast Five stories that you need to know. And the Fast Five stories

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Elliot Grange. So she announced this weekend the news that she gave birth on May 20th to a baby girl named Eloise Samantha Grange. She said, 5-20-24, best day of my life. This was very highly anticipated. I think a lot of the girlies were wondering what she was going to name this baby. I feel like her and Hailey Baldwin are like highly anticipated for the girls obsessed with names. Like because they're both very creative and trendsetters.

Like everybody copies their makeup, their hair, their clothing. And so now it's like names. And we love a real name, you know, very uncommon in celebrity culture. Like I have heard this name before. Yes, I think I've heard this name before. And I do like it. I do like it I do like it it's very on brand like it's so her like what do you think of when you think of Eloise at the plaza plaza's class up the ass and that's so Sophia Richie you know clean girl whatever they call it yeah no I I love the name

I agree also like her and Hailey Bieber they they're like so trendy and cool and blah, blah, blah. But like the thing about a name is that it's forever. So how trendy and cool we want to be here. And I think this, I mean, whatever she named her daughter is so beautiful, but I really feel like this is so perfect because it is a classic name. That's not like the most common name,

but not just like plucked out of the sky. I'm sure there's also like some meaning in her family. and I think it's really beautiful and I'm really happy for her and I hope she's enjoying the early days of motherhood and when it comes to Hailey Bieber's name I feel like people forget like they're so religious I feel like she's literally gonna name her kid like Moses like something really biblical yeah but Moses is also cool because that's Gwyneth Paltrow's son yeah and it can be like Bob Moses like it can be like you know yeah trendy also is she having a girl I thought I saw her like post something that made it seem like she's having a girl Hailey Bieber yeah you know it's so funny

when people announce their genders like even she I don't think she announced gender but then she like posted something like me and the girl are going to so and so. So one day, Haley Babers fans think she revealed the gender of her baby with this stylish clue. Oh, she had gotten her nails done and she captioned her photo. Little cherry blossoms on my nails. Little cherry blossom in my belly. Why would a cherry blossom be a girl? Because it's pink. Yeah, I don't know.

But Jackie, you tell me, like if you had a boy in your belly, which you have twice, would you ever think of describing that boy as a cherry blossom no but I don't describe things as cherry blossoms some people also thought the name perhaps could be blossom yeah I don't think it's that I think maybe it's like she just maybe she just wanted to like tie the theme of her nails I don't think it's that. I think maybe it's like. I don't know. Maybe she just wanted to like tie the theme of her nails. Yeah, she has like this budding flower in her belly. Yeah.

By the way, this is not. It wasn't. I don't think it was a gender reveal. I don't think it was either. Or an accidental one. Me neither. I don't think she like accidentally posts stuff. Same.

So. Like I think. Same. So, you shall see. I think, you know, sometimes it's just a manicure, you know? Right, but sometimes it's not.

No, and I do think we've gotten, like, really, like, crazy with celebrity Easter eggs. Like, I do blame Taylor Swift,

because, like, everyone got so accustomed to taking a magnifying glass to everything Taylor Swift puts out, and that's how she wanted it. But not everyone's like that. Like, some people are just getting their nails done. Swift puts out. And that's how she wanted it. But not everyone's like that. Like some people are just getting their nails done.

Yeah. Yeah. And it's as simple and as complicated as that. True that. Well, our next story is some children news. And it's a three-parter because Kardashian children are in the news. Yes, they are. In a major way.

So let's start with Mason Disick joining Instagram. He's 14 years old now. He has an Instagram account, which makes total sense. But I think what's puzzling people is that the whole family is promoting the Instagram account. They all post it on Instagram. Mason's here. Like, give him a follow. You know, just not trying to minimize.

Yeah. Yeah, I thought that was interesting. Like him being on Instagram Like as a 14 year old Like boy in the world I get why it's newsworthy But there's really nothing crazy about it Like that is the age that kids

You know these days join the platform I am surprised that they wanted him To have like a public verified profile And not like a private one That he can like use for social media Like how kids do with their friends Yeah But this is a family that Like has built billion dollar businesses On social media Like they kids do with their friends um yeah but this is a family that like

has built billion dollar businesses on social media like they know the value of it and mason disick already having 500 000 instagram followers like that's a job for he's like set for life it's like an inheritance in in a weird sense it's like it's like job security so um like i get it it does feel like weird just like kim being like oh my god I can't believe my nephew's on Instagram follow him like I don't know it's gonna like follow train like for likes for likes you know yeah I kind of feel like now in thinking about it that the family as a as a family has made the decision that like the next generation will start working carry the torch yeah and like we're gonna make the most of, maybe he does even have like a more private one,

but he like, he's going to have a public one. And like, we're going to keep it going because that's also how they can like stay up with young people. Yep. And I feel like maybe there was like a committee that was like, I think this is what's best for the future of the family. If like, if the younger ones start to get on Instagram, that like keeps us in the loop with young people.

And of course, I'm sure it's monitored in some way. Yeah. Well, I feel like it can't be this like unilateral decision because each family definitely has their own politics. Like Kanye has been very vocal about not wanting the kids on TikTok. And like, and Scott, I feel is definitely really into like influencer culture and is probably really pro Mason being on social media. So I feel like it couldn't have been so unilateral.

But it's a good point because it feels like it's all happening now at once. With North and Penelope on TikTok, North then doing the Lion King thing, Mason being on Instagram, it does feel like it happened at the same time. But I also feel like if anyone was going to be less into it, it would have been Kourtney. Right. I don't know. I feel like maybe it's, yeah, like their inheritance

and that's what they're going to do. It'll be interesting to see what the rest of them do. But I thought the fact that everyone posted it was like the most interesting part of this. Yeah, it feels like very early stage brand building. Early stage brand building, 100 yeah well speaking of brand building also North was in the news this weekend because she performed at the Hollywood Bowl as Simba young Simba in the Lion King during the Lion King's 30th anniversary concert

so this has been the topic of discussion all weekend North there's video of her performing I just can't wait to be King. Super cute. Now she's getting dragged. Yeah. For being like a nepo baby. She didn't deserve the part. People are sharing auditions of other kids who auditioned for the role. Their parents are making videos like talking about the audition process and how it's not fair. That Kim pulled strings and that North got the part. And it's a mess. People looking for like justice and equality and fairdom in the show business industry, like I really need to start barking up another tree. Like, oh, well, this is so shocking.

Show business isn't fair. Yeah, well, we know. Like, oh, show business isn't ethical. Yeah, we know. Like, have you not been paying attention? Like, so don't go searching for like a fair shot in show business. No, and if you want to be in a fair industry where your kid is going to have an equal playing field,

that's not the one. No, it's not. We've been knowing this. Show business is not a meritocracy. It's all about connections. It's all about family. It's all about who you know. And that's a conversation that's been had.

So this isn't shocking. I think coming for a kid is wrong. I thought she did a really good job. Yeah yeah was that kid who auditioned better vocally yeah she's not a singer but we're talking about the Lion King 30th anniversary when we never would have been talking about it before and it kind of looked good and now I kind of want to go like there's a reason why she got the role over other people who might have been more qualified for her she brings something that other people don't bring yeah I also think like people have gotten seriously out of hand.

Like she's a child, people who are like commenting on her talent and her abilities, like calm down, seriously. Seriously calm down. If you wanna be mad at like some of the adults who made these choices, go ahead. But like to say anything about her and how she did when like she's clearly having fun. This is obviously something that she wants to do.

She likes being on stage. Like it's not that fucking serious. And she's a child. Like calm down. Jackie said the F word. Jackie said the F word. She's mad. It's so.

Like imagine like seeing a kid singing and dancing and like having some like taking moral high ground. I'm going to be problem with it and taking it out on her. Yeah. No. Facts on facts. It's just it's really no well so unnecessary and like mean-spirited it is especially because like the big comparison that people made was Northwest and Blue Ivy because Blue Ivy was also a part of her mom's tour which is different it's not nepotism because it's like her mom's

tour it's not like she got that job over someone else like she doesn't have an you know another daughter that age who dances like no it's not like she got that job over someone else. Like she doesn't have another daughter that age who dances. No, it's not like she was in the business of hiring like a 15-year-old dancer in her show. Right. If it wasn't Blue Ivy, there would have been nobody there. Right. But comparing like talent-wise and levels of skill,

like it's just, it's wrong. Like leave the kids alone. And again, if you're like a parent making a TikTok like about how your kid didn't book a role that you wanted him to like i mean no like it's giving stage mom it's giving documentary like maybe go put the kid in school and stop complaining yeah and this is a good lesson to learn like it's not a fair industry no nepo babies shall rise. And they will. And they have. And it's not always about who's the best, who you think is the best for the role.

Like, now you know. No, and by the way, well, yes, people are critiquing like her singing and her dancing. I just want to say, how old is she? 10. To get on the stage at the Hollywood Bowl as a 10 year old and not look even one bit nervous and have so much confidence like that's major yeah so like leave the kid alone yeah are you ready for oh there's one more Kardashian child baby news story because Courtney was doing

a little Q&A on her Instagram and she's. Yes, she's talking about like postpartum things. And she admits that she sleeps with her six-month-old son, Rocky. So we have another advocate in the co-sleeping department. Oh my God, this is seriously, this is so crazy. Of all the like scandals and like crazy things we've said on the show, the co-sleeping thing, which I obviously have no horse in this race on, has shaken up this community. Well, Courtney has entered the chat because someone asked on her

stories like uh looking for advice as a new mama she has a baby who only likes to be held to take a nap and then Courtney took a picture of his crib and she wrote um enjoy every second we do the same he's never been in his crib it's my favorite thing in the world oh so that's like a very roundabout way of saying like we're co-sleeping oh yeah he's never been in his crib it's my favorite thing in the world oh so that's like a very roundabout way of saying like we're co-sleeping oh yeah he's never slept in his crib because he sleeps on them with them because this person was like how could I like looking for advice like my baby will only nap on me and I loved Courtney's like spin on it like enjoy yeah welcome it's the best thing in the world yeah but that's like so on brand for Courtney oh for sure and I feel like she's never been anything other than like herself in that sense I feel like she's said that before

but um it's making waves again now and I just feel like for anyone who's co-sleeping and might want to hear that co-sleeping in secret co-sleeping in secret yeah aren't we all uh no actually I'm not actually me and Romeo are co-sleeping actually we're not we're not oh yeah you're not Bruno's co-sleeping though Bruno's co-sleeping Romeo's still in his crib that's good yeah and then it's the opposite for Romeo he starts in the crib and then he co-sleeps Those people, it's the opposite. So anyways, that's super cute. Oh, and I watched Kardashians. And? I watched the first episode.

It was cute. There was a lot of like Kourtney, Travis, like the baby shower stuff, which was like fun to watch. Kim, the theme is like Kim won't stop working. She said last season, like I'm a workaholic. And now like her whole personality is how much she works. And she's like, I don't see why people have a problem with that. I don't think people have a problem with it I don't um but it's

just all about like work work work and she's taking on more Chloe is like kind of having not a hard time but like she is very like in her routine every single day and she like won't deviate from it of like the kids school yeah this house. Like she won't go to Milan for 12 hours. Hate when that happens. No. And I understand that. Because like when people offer me to go to Milan for 12 hours. I can't do it.

Because my routine. Like my you know. Romeo and needs his walks. And going for a jog in the park. You know. My 5k training. Things like that. Yeah.

So it was cute. I'll watch the next one. Cool. I didn't watch. Are you ready for our third story? I am. Great. Brittany Cartwright is hinting at deeper marital issues

behind closed doors after Jax Taylor steps out with model Paige Woolen. So a lot of Valley, Jax, and Brittany news this weekend. I know. And the way Jax and Brittany are addressing and telling their story of their divorce is incredibly bizarre. It is. News is being made because's like responding to people's Instagram stories like I feel like though they are just leaning in to the show and to like doing things in the public

I think it's just like good for their business and okay so it's a business now like these things are happening and let's at least make the most of it sort of it's really crazy do you know what it's giving totally I really hope that you know what I'm about to say like just their marital woes played out in the public eye and like the way they're leaning into it so much no who does it remind you of I I can't remember but like I know we've had this conversation before. Tori Spelling. Yeah, we just never talk about her, but.

They are the millennial equivalent of Tori, and I don't even know her husband's name who she's always fighting with. Yeah, but I think Tori Spelling like does really well from like that sort of. Yes, it pays the bills. Yeah, and I think when it does, then you ask yourself the question like, is this worth it? And they're on the show already. So Jax has just stepped out with like a new leading lady I guess her name is Paige Willing. Ariana's

birthday yeah she's a model. Her brother's birthday Jeremy. Yeah yeah um meanwhile Brittany reposted a video of like a creator talking about the valley and how Jax treats Brittany and she wrote, thank you. And just imagine what I've been through behind closed doors. I mean, the way, like I was already, I still plan on watching the Valley and I need to write it down somewhere

because I've sat in front of my TV a couple of times being like, what did I mean to watch the Valley? Yeah. But like all of this stuff really also gets me to want to watch the Valley, which like them being on TV is good. That's their livelihood. Like this is them doing a good job at their job.

Yeah, no, it's a guaranteed renewal. That's for sure. Because there's so much going on offline. And there was like a viral, like a video that went viral from Jeremy Maddox's birthday party. Someone's just like filming him blowing out his candles and like panning to everyone. Jax is standing there with his new girl. And she like blurts out, I'm pregnant. Yeah, she's like joking about being pregnant.

I don't know. I'm not sure but that would send the Valley viewers into a tizzy. Into a tizzy. And maybe this girl wants to be on the Valley. But there's just been a lot like people thought that Jax was having an affair with his publicist but now he's dating another girl so I don't know. I don't know either but we're talking about him. Yeah it's a strategy.

This it's it's hard for me to get over Jackson Brittany I'm not I know people are gonna be like what do you mean we all could see it they were toxic even when a couple like seems like a mismatch when they're together for so long and they really like dig in and put roots down like at a certain point I like put them in the box in my head of like okay we're settled yeah you just like believe yeah and that's where I thought that they were at and they have a young child and I just I didn't see this happening now I thought they were in like the best place that they've been in and when you like get past so many toxic years like especially on tv with the faith thing the affair like you can get past that like we're together forever yeah no it's definitely sad, and I think I'm oddly happy for them because I think being back in like the Bravo

swing of things and being talked about was their goal. But at what cost? At what cost? And I also think if I watch the Valley, maybe like it will cure me of being sad that they're done. Like I might watch it and be like oh she needs to leave him which she did good right yeah no there's definitely like a toxicity there that we're unfamiliar with because we don't watch but apparently it's been quite prevalent yeah yeah

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cops for her concert cancellation so Nicki Minaj was majorly in the news this weekend. She was arrested in Amsterdam and she live streamed her encounter with the Amsterdam cops. But she wound up having to cancel her Manchester concert because she couldn't get there in time. So she has apologized to fans after canceling the concert following her arrest on drug possession charges in Amsterdam on Saturday. She said please please please accept my deepest and time. So she has apologized to fans after canceling the concert following her arrest on drug possession charges in Amsterdam on Saturday. She said please please please accept my deepest and most sincere apologies. She wrote that she just arrived at her hotel after spending six hours in an Amsterdam jail. She had been taken into police custody at Amsterdam Sheephole Airport on Saturday morning

on suspicion of exporting soft drugs with the lyricist confirming that they had found marijuana in her luggage. She blamed Amsterdam officials for nixing the concert. They succeeded at their plan to not let me get on that stage tonight. I succeeded at getting to the root of it all by recording them and posting everything in real time. She added that she plans to take legal action against the Amsterdam authorities writing, I have so much video evidence you wouldn't believe it if I told you. I'll have the lawyers and God take it from here though I thought pot was illegal right and she said that in her initial like when it was all going down and she was like tweeting she was like it's legal here but is traveling out of the country with it not because she said she was going to Manchester that's the UK right yeah so maybe

that's the crime she was saying like the whole thing with like the bags like they were they had like searched some of their bags and then like getting them like on and off the plane. Like it was all very sus. Yeah, but as she says, she has a video of everything. And I mean, the footage of her like literally being arrested on Instagram live is so crazy. And like what a power move to like not just film it,

but do it live on Instagram. Yeah, yeah. Just really a crazy turn of events and i hope that you know there's justice for her and like that she had to miss the concert everyone missed the concert she has to postpone the concert yeah no it's like so it's so much work and such like unnecessary paperwork for For what? Because she had pot in a country where pot is legal. Like make it make sense. The flight was 50 minutes. Five zero. Make it make sense.

That's what she said. Was it a private flight? I assume. Yes. Yeah. She was talking about the jet. They were like starting stuff. Yeah.

She was also like saying that some of the people who might have like formerly worked for her might have, I don't know, had a role to play in like the blame so I don't know it's layered it's layered but I'm glad she's out of jail yeah me too and it reminds me of my favorite show Locked Up Abroad which she was which she was and which seriously if you've watched a show you never want to be locked up abroad I mean I don't think you want to be locked up broad but definitely not abroad yeah like period are you ready for our fifth and final story some titanic news oh my god our our time together is coming to a close and when I climb into bed I start feeling sad turdy took the words out of

my mouth but an Ohio billionaire named Larry Conner plans to take a 20 million dollar sub to the Titanic site to prove the industry safer after the Ocean Gate explosion. So the pressure is on and Ohio billionaire is planning to take a deep sea submersible to Titanic depths to prove the industry is safer in the wake of the doomed Ocean Gate vessel that imploded last year real estate investor larry o'connor said he and triton submarines co-founder patrick lahey will plunge more than 2.3 miles to the shipwreck site in a two-person submersible he said i want to show people worldwide that while the ocean is extremely powerful it can be wonderful and enjoyable and and really kind of life-changing if you go about it the right way um i don't think anybody like is

mad at the ocean, you know? Right. And that wasn't the takeaway from the submersible tragedy. It was like, you know, that company was Sade as hell and like poor decision making from literally everyone involved. And I feel like the integrity and reputation of the ocean remained intact post submersible saga.

Now I'm questioning the sanity and well-being of this billionaire from Ohio. Like, are you okay? Right, and I think also while the operations like were not up to code in the last one, it did sort of like beg the question of like, is it necessary? Why do we need to do this?

Maybe just like let it rest, like this Titanic obsession. Like, yeah. And so yeah, I don't think he needs to prove that like ocean travel is safe. People are on cruises every day. Right. No, and I wasn't even my takeaway from submersible like wasn't that, you know, submersible travel in general. Like if NASA put together a submersible, I'd trust it, you know, not to say that submersible travel is like recreational submersible travel is unsafe.

It's just a bit unnecessary. But it's like a PlayStation controller being held together with duct tape. Like, I think, you know, using logic and reasoning is of the utmost importance in a situation like that. And I don't know what's going to happen to this man. I wish him a safe journey. But this is so beyond unnecessary.

And this is, like, classic. Like, these wealthy men, like, sometimes they're so not okay like they think they're so untouchable you're literally not the ocean doesn't give a fuck how much money you have yeah and they're just I can't see like what's one upside to going and seeing the Titanic I guess like the experience of seeing it but it's all on video and just watch a movie it's even better no and like no one is as into interested in the titanic is me and i don't feel that i need to go down there yeah it's also like let's say nasa was going it was a tippity top elon was involved like it was guaranteed that you were

going to make it out there yeah elon and nasa and you are guaranteed that you're going to make it to and fro alive i still don't think I would want to go. The idea of being how many miles down below? 2.3 miles down below, 2,400 feet. Like, I'm all set, you know? And I think the Titanic is super interesting. Like, I don't feel like that would be an enjoyable experience for me, you know? It's the same reason I don't go bungee jumping,

even though, you know, millions of people do it and it's totally safe. Like, I'm not interested in feeling that sort of pain yeah thrill not for me not for me so I mean good luck to them but it's honestly at this point I feel like he's doing it for attention it's a good way to get attention I feel like anything that like people titanic yeah titanic really captures people yeah it's definitely like he's not a thrill seeker he's an attention seeker and I really am like mad that we gave it to him you say oh I know but I can't like you'll get me of course I'll walk right into the trap no and the timing of me watching titanic last night and this story coming out how could we not we're We're doing our jobs. And then after Ben saw Titanic,

like did he have any more thoughts about the submersible thing? No, Ben, you know, is not really into like current events, you know, so I'm not, it didn't come up in our conversation. Maybe tonight over dinner, I'll just ask him if he had any deeper thoughts

on the submersible. But am I correct in remembering when the submersible story first came out? Like day one, we were reporting on it. We called it a submersible. That feels right. Yeah, a TFR. Yeah, sub.

Subway. And I just, it was like, it was crazy that at that time, it was just commonplace knowledge, I guess, for everyone to know how to pronounce submersible. Now, it was in the movie Titanic. They are on a submersible. That guy on the big boat, he's using submersible now it was in the movie Titanic they are on a submersible um that guy on the big boat he's using submersibles so I guess that's where people knew the pronunciation

but I just thought it was so crazy like one day everybody woke up and knew how to pronounce it and we were dumb for not yeah you know what else is like a part of the movie that just doesn't do it for me but I guess it's like the whole movie what the necklace oh yeah me neither although that was like low-key kind of crazy of the lady to just dump it in the ocean like they're but historically inaccurate well there wasn't a real necklace no I don't think so no it was just I read about it last night it was like this storyline like inspired by the hope diamond yeah Yeah. But wait back to, what were you saying right before this? Oh yeah, the necklace storyline didn't do it for you.

Like where is the necklace? Like I don't care. Yeah, no, I wasn't like searching for it. And when she like finally whipped it out of her old wrinkly hand, it wasn't like plot twist of the century. It was just like, oh cool. Love that for you. How did Ben feel about it?

He didn't make a peep. I was like, I wonder if he's like, he didn't say anything. At that point, I don't think you care. was like, I wonder if he's, like, he didn't say anything. At that point, I don't think you care. Also, like, I just know that it's the old lady has a necklace because, like, that Britney Spears song, you know, like, we know that she has it. It's kind of a spoiler for the whole movie.

Like, I've never not known her to have it, just like how I watch Gone Girl starting from the middle of the movie. Like, I never had the thought for a second that, like, maybe she was gone. Like, I knew she was in her car. You knew she was the girl. Yeah, girl was not gone. Okay, that's interesting. Yes, Britney Spears definitely.

Spoiler alert. Spoiler alert and helpful. But also, maybe this is like me being dumb. Why did she throw it in the ocean? That's where it belonged. Like no one else should have it. Because it was called the heart of the ocean. No, but like just to put the whole thing to rest.

I don't know. Poetic justice. Because at first I was like, oh, she's putting the necklace back in the ocean. That's where Jack is. But Jack actually didn't give her the necklace. Like it's not Jack's necklace. Yeah. It's Cal's.

I think it was just like the closing of a chapter. yeah it's cal's i think it was just like the closing like of a chapter like she was that person that necklace is uh symbolizes that person and that person should because she like wound up pretending to be someone else for the rest of her life right not like rose dawson not rose yeah yeah right so like rosie aristocrat is at the bottom of the sea technically and her necklace should be there too i mean couldn't be me no especially because you know her mom was the woe like the woe-tiest woe of all but we do learn why she was that way their father had passed away her husband and they didn't know like they had a good family name but they had no money like they were in crazy debt and so her marrying this you know steel tycoon you know he was the worst um was

a remedy of that and that's what the culture was in the 1900s like that's what she did um and so I understood the mother a little bit better and that necklace could have helped the mother a great deal because the mom in the movie did survive so she should just give the necklace to her mom because it meant a lot to her yeah but the mom's also like forcing her to marry an abusive man so like no necklace for you nnfu no necklace for you so like all's to say no one deserves it right and I guess the theme is like money is the root of all evil I guess oh I wasn't getting that I was getting like let sleeping dogs lie well no in the movie because and you say in the book that it actually wasn't like that but so much of the emphasis of the movie is like rich people getting priority like their lives basically being more valuable than people in steerage and the poor

people um so maybe for her the necklace represented that perhaps but also like the ship when it was floating was incredibly classist yeah it were classes yeah but like so was an airplane like we still have the class system yeah not all airlines i guess even literally all except for one pay more yeah you can pay more to board first but i yeah and now they charge you like oh you don't want to sit in the middle seat pay more yeah it's great they'll charge you for, oh, you don't want to sit in the middle seat? Pay more. Yeah. It's great. They'll charge you for everything. You're bringing a luggage?

Pay more. Water? A basic human right? No, it's serious. Oh, you don't want to sit that far back? Pay more. Right. Main cabin, main cabin plus.

It's really crazy. It's really crazy. I would argue that like the modern flight travel industry is more classist than the Titanic. Yeah. Whoa. Hot take. Hot take. Do better.

Yeah. But not totally untrue. And then also, what were we saying before that? The necklace. Britney Spears. The necklace. Let sleeping dogs lie. Submersible.

Knowing the pronunciation. He flew in a submersible in the movie oh and i said this to you on the phone but something so interesting about the movie titanic is that there's two films going on right they're telling the story of what happened in 1912 and then it's like 2000 and whenever the movie came out 2008 um 1998 oh wow i think it came out in the 90s. Slay the house down boots with that song. And it's crazy that these, the modern parts of the film, which are like 5% of the movie, but this is the biggest movie of all time.

Literally, it's a multi-generational, it's like the biggest thing. And all the actors who play like the submersible guy and his team and Nana and Nana's granddaughter I've never seen these people act ever again like you would think this would have been a movie that launched their careers like they're seriously like you would think Jennifer Aniston would be in it like who the fuck are these people no like did they even get the invite to the Oscars? Did they even get the invite to the premiere? Like, I know Jack, I know Rose, I know Celine Dion, I know Kathy Bates, I know Victor Garber. Who the fuck are these other people? Yeah. In the

modern times? Makes you think. Like, you'd think it would have been, like, the job of a lifetime, but it kind of feels like a curse. Yeah, a great question and then my final thought which I also shared with you and you agreed with was that I felt like Rose was miscast I do feel that way I so this is what I said to you like I feel like her Kate Winslet and Leo like we're not a match and so one of them has to go and I think Leo really shines in the movie so like he'll stay which means we have to recast Rose but I think like thinking about an aristocratic young woman in the 1912s like that's Kate Winslet yeah and thinking of like a poor midwestern American boy with you know no like kind of untethered his family it was so Leo at the time like the long

blonde hair, just the very chiseled face, like so all American. Yeah, but like they, I don't know how they passed the chemistry test. Yeah, yeah, like even, and she felt a lot older than him, no? Yeah. And the scene where they have sex in that car, I don't know, it was giving like the idea of you energy. Let's just look at their ages quickly.

I'm sure, you know, I'm sure the exact same age. I think on paper they were, they're correct casting, but together, no. He had this like really young boyish energy and she had the total opposite, sort of like maternal energy, matronly, if you will. Yeah. So she's 48 and he's 49 yeah no they're older oh he's older I don't know facts are remain but I still feel like they were a mismatch I agree and I I don't think that's a hot take and you know what I just did want to look up really quickly

actresses who almost played Rose in the Titanicanic like who else was a reese witherspoon she doesn't give aristocrat no she's a like female jack she's jackie dawson i just want to say all these people kind of stink okay angelina jolie no jennifer connelly i don't really know what she looked like when she was young but no Pearl Harbor Uma Thurman oh Pearl Harbor honestly like Kate Beckinsale oh she's Pearl Harbor they're both Pearl Harbor oh I don't know but Kate Beckinsale would have been good Jennifer I said Nicole Kidman I do want a real Brit Rose wasn't British she wasn't she was a man oh yeah oh yeah really it's from Philly Jennifer Connelly oh so go back okay for sure Reese Witherspoon I'll take any of them Madonna no Nicole Kidman

Jennifer Aniston Charlize Theron Gwyneth Gwyneth she had just played Seven and Emma and that's why she was offered the role she turned it down but then won an Oscar for Shakespeare in Love so she couldn't have done both but Titanic is obviously bigger but Shakespeare oh and here's who auditioned for the role of Jack Johnny Depp I could see it yeah you know he loves a role on a boat Christian Bale also could have seen it Chris O'Donnell from CSI like you definitely don't even know, he loves a roll on a boat. Christian Bale also could have seen it. Chris O'Donnell from CSI. Like, you definitely don't even know who he is. Well, I would have if he did Titanic. Yeah, Brad Pitt would have been good.

Brad and Gwyneth. Macaulay Culkin, no. I didn't realize it was a movie about two Americans. Yeah, I also did wonder why she was in London. They never addressed that because he was also American. He was from Pittsburgh, her husband, fiance. And she and her family were American. And she was engaged?

They were engaged traveling from the UK back to New York. But why? Maybe they were shopping for her wedding, like getting her dress made. They never really addressed that. Maybe they were just on holiday, as you do. Or maybe they seriously went to London so that they could get on the Titanic like it was that big of a deal yeah or they were just there for the season yeah oh the season that's a thing and no but the season movie summer and it's April

no I'm telling you they definitely like went to London so that they could go back on this historic voyage interesting they planned like some fakak trip oh and then i also looked up like what did first class cost like today what would it have cost so a first class suite which i don't know if that's what rose and her man had because that was like more than a suite they had like their own deck or whatever but um a first class suite cost four thousand dollars which today is 84 grand for what was it like seven to 10 days? Yeah. Whoa. Yeah. That I guess feels right. That feels like what rich people spend on like crazy trips.

Yeah. Like in crazy amount. Yeah. Yeah. Per person or for the suite? And you can just like. Good question. That's what it said a ticket costs.

I don't know if that means like a room. I don't know. Hmm. Fascinating room I don't know hmm fascinating you should read the book I read it's called the ship of dreams by Gareth Nemeth that doesn't sound right Gareth Nemeth I don't think his parents would have named him that let me just clear that up the ship of dreams book by gareth russell close feels right you guys that's our show thank you so much for being here with us thank you so much for listening hope you enjoyed and thank you so much for listening to the toast the millennium morning show where we deliver the fast five stories you need to know every monday through friday youtube so if you're watching us on youtube please feel free to subscribe me this video thumbs up also available as my kids are my kids

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