The Toast - None Ya Bidness: Tuesday, September 22nd, 2026

Episode Date: September 22, 2026

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It's Jackson, Claude and every show that that's five things you need to know. We'll start your day off, swirly. It's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy Tuesday. That feels like a Monday, obviously because it's our first show of the week. But it's our first show of sort of the rebirth of Jackson Claude. Talk about two atone.

This is the Atonement, the sequel. The Atonement is here. Chag Sameh, Gmarhatea, Marhati, Matova, to all who follow and praise this. It's the first day. I'm too skinny. It's the first day of the rest of our year. Yes, and of course, as always. Now the year can begin.

And as of course, there's always this time of year. Like we are setting off with beautiful intentions of love and kindness and generosity of spirit. I'm cracking up because when I was in shul yesterday and I was doing my atoning and I was reading the prayer book. And I went to the English translation just to like see exactly of all the sins that I'm saying sorry for. Guilty of.

It's funny because I think we were saying last week on the Patreon or here how I think there's a couple things I want to tinker. I really hadn't been thinking that big. And like when I was reading all the things that I'm apologizing for, it was just like literally everything. Like what? Do I'm going to pull it up? Oh, you don't remember one single one that you read? It was like, really, and I think the point of it actually I want to pull it up because it was so wide ranging and like every little like tiny infraction. ever. And I think the point is meant to be like, nobody is perfect. There is nobody who did not sin

this year. Right, right, of course. And we're not, we're not like striving for perfection, you know. There's always going to be sins, but we are trying for betterness because like when you think of a sin, it's not just the big ones. Like it's not just murder and let you know. Right. Of course. I didn't murder or commit adultery, therefore like I had a good year. Yeah. Yeah. It's not just that. It's like, you know, I saw someone on the street who needed help and I walked right past them, something like that. No, not even that. Like, down to like the, like, most insignificant, like, impure thought. Well, then I'm cooked, as the kids say.

Impure thoughts exclusively. All my thoughts are. I know, like, your thoughts, too. That's not like a sin that you acted on. Not only that, like, I can't control my thoughts. So what does the Lord want me to do about that? That's crazy. The point is that nobody's perfect.

Let's say, sorry, let's move on. I got to work it. and try to be better. I will do my best. Certain people, i.e. Derek Huff, are making it hard for me. I know. I ended up in this battle with Derek Huff. Whatever.

Like, new year, new me. Here, Clod. Okay. Forgive us. This is a different version, but here you go. Forgive us for the wrongs we have committed purposely and for those we committed under duress. Well, if I was under duress. Okay.

Okay. For acting without. thinking. Okay, fine. For giving into desire. Constantly. Like, when you think about desire, of course, I'm not committing adultery, but I am definitely engaging in the sin of gluttony, like, all the time. For sure. For being two-faced. Uh, no, not me. For betraying our friends, for betraying our spouses, never. For treating our parents and mentors without respect, never. Oh my God, we respect the hell out of mentors here. For being stubborn. Why are you looking at me like that? I'm not Margo.

For the words of gossip, we spoke. I know when I see that Lush and Hara. Oh, not me just gossiping. When I see Lash and Hara in the book, I go hard on that one. I repent extra hard. For not living up to our highest potential. That's a sin. That's actually a chilling thought.

Like, did I not live up to my highest potential? Definitely not. Forgive us for denying the truth when we should have acknowledged it. Oh, like things I'm in denial about my cardboard nature. Yeah. Yeah. For taking situations lightly that we should have taken seriously. Like, that's just so subjective.

No, and I feel that I understand why the Lord wrote these words in the way that he did, but I feel that maybe we've taken it like a little too far. For requiring more from others than we expect from ourselves, that's T. I don't do that, but. Oh, maybe I do with Ben. Oh, interesting. Like I expect a level of excellency in my home that I don't even achieve, you know? Interesting.

For not guarding our tongue, classic. for looking down on others for failing to take responsibility for being scattered and for procrastinating. I didn't know that was a sin. I just thought it was a bad habit. Oh, I feel actually like pretty good about the fact that I don't engage in the business of procrastination.

No. You're a hastenator. You're a hastenator. Yeah, it's true. What's the opposite of procrastination where you do things so quickly and so fast that you actually just do them poorly? And also like sometimes they're too fast.

A thousand percent. for being for chasing after ambition and success that's bad oops yikes sorry about that sorry god won't happen again for not making promises we didn't keep for not giving generously to those in need so it's a lot this is but like i said new year new us we will do our best to not look down on others unless they need it and to not guard our tongues. And if today's episode is boring, blame the Lord. We're guarding our tongues. Regarding our tongues.

So yeah, let's try and keep that in mind. Here's some good neutral conversation. Ready? I watched a lot of TV this weekend that I'd like to talk about. Okay, I'm not ready to get into TV recap, though. It's not a recap because you didn't watch any of this. I just want to tell everyone that I watched it and just give like a brief sort of. Recap.

A brief thought, a brief thought, if I may. I watched season two of Chad Powers. Okay. Oh, that's a good thing to watch. I should have watched that. Because it was a lot of time with my husband this weekend and it was what we could agree on. And I just want to say it's insane. And I have only positive things to say. It was an amazing season. It's insane that we're calling six episodes a season now. I just... I watched season for a full swing. And it was five episodes. Yeah. When I was growing up, we used to do 22 episodes of season. So I'm not used to this sort of like phoning it in energy.

Slamu was five episodes. I got the sense that the Salama was like a half of a season though. I don't know why. I feel that's what it should be but like Miranda said no, next season is season six. Season six.

Well, Chad Powers is excellent. Like it's really the dumbest show like in its concept but it's so like it's got heart. And this season they had like a little bit of a danger element. It was kind of spooky. I was watching one episode at night

I said we have to turn it off. I can't watch this right now. Chad Powers was too spooky. Yes. There's like this kind of crazy person on the loose and he's like really, really scary. Chad Powers loved.

I also started the new season of Ted Lassow, again, looking for like husband and wife. And they made this whole big deal about like ending Ted Lassow just to bring it back. And I don't know, it's not hitting the same. Even though like all your faves are back, Roy and Keeley. Um, I don't know. No, I don't watch Ted Lassow anymore. It like got bad.

So that was it for me. It's just like, it's not very good. And then there was one. Oh. Oh. Oh. I watched more of Real House Lys Ultimate Girls trip. And I'm here to tell you like it's.

actually fantastic. It's really passive watching. Like you don't need to binge every episode when it comes out. It's such great like background. I am cracking up. Like between Luann and Portia, who are definitely stealing the show, I cannot stop laughing. They're doing a really good job of like paying homage to all the different housewives. They basically go to each city in a different episode. We're in Atlanta now. Well, I'm in Atlanta now. And they have, you know, Nini and Fager like sort of crowd favorites come and then they throw a party at night. Basically they invite everyone and whoever from that city wants to come. Like, sure, show up. Everyone's trying to have a moment, you know.

Of course. Cringe. And it's a cringe to watch them. And the other ladies, like the ones who have been chosen for the trip, there's just like, it's not an equal playing field, you know? It's like Lisa Barlow's definitely all the other women, I can tell. She's, I don't watch Salt Lake, but she's on the after with almost all the women. And I just know it's killing them, specifically Heather that Lisa was the one who was chosen.

It is surprising they chose Lisa over Heather. I think Lisa is hated amongst the group and loved amongst the fans. And that's really more so what they care about. It's just so funny. It's also just interesting how it's like, I can't stand Teresa. I've never been a tree hugger. She's such a delight when she's out of Jersey.

Like she's cracking me up. She's really sweet. She's like, Luanne is singing like everywhere. She performed at Kyle's party. She's making them watch videos of her singing. And Teresa's like so supportive. It's definitely annoying. You know, they're with these women nonstop, traveling, bus,

sprinter. And it's like, you're getting sick of everyone. And Luanne's singing the whole time. Vicki can't take it. She's like, she has to stop singing. Teresa's like so sweet. She's like, I love that song. She's say Levy.

there's a mosquito in here. Did you get it? No. I saw it before we started. I think definitely in the book of prayers you're not supposed to be killing other living beings. It didn't say that. We just read it. You probably didn't get to that part.

And I didn't kill it. You looked like you snatched it right up in your little hand. I wish. And then I would open the door and let it go. Of course. Of course I would. Also to say it's definitely worth watching. I'm cracking up.

I just like cracking up. You're looking forward to it. Every time I sit down, I said, you know, I'm looking forward to cracking up. Portia is carrying the entire show. She's probably one of the funniest people on TV, period, cracks me up. They're doing lots of flashbacks, like iconic moments. It's really good. Like, it's not what I thought it would be.

And it's got hard. You know, this group of women, they're all sort of bonding together because they hate Vicky. She's such a wet blanket. She's like, she shouldn't have been chosen. Like, I know she's the OG of the OC, but she's too busy. She has to work for COTO. So she's like on her laptop when they're like, filming scenes. She hates everyone. Like seriously hates everyone. She thinks she's too good for it.

Like she's seriously pissing me off. Okay. But it's really good. That's good. That's good. I'm happy for them that they did something good. Yeah, yeah. And I know it like all comes to a culmination at Bluestone Manor. So maybe they end with New York. And that's where everyone shows up. But so far they've gotten everyone except T is that Kyle embedded to read to her Beverly Hills white party where they like, you know, that's where Luann performed. and Dorit didn't come. Hmm. Oh yeah.

They're still fighting. Yeah, yeah. But it's like, I haven't been paying attention a while, but they hate each other. It just happened to have been at Kyle's house, but like it was not Kyle's party, you know? Yeah, but no, that's true hatred there.

So, of course. True hatred. I'm not going to go to my ops house. I know, but it's like, it's kind of a work event. It's a work event like for your boss. Well, if she was obligated to go, she would go. No, it's not an obligation.

But I would want to go. Like, just to keep myself, like, relevant in the housewives, Teddy Mellencamp was there, of course. Of course. Of course. Seriously, Krakken. So thank you for that TV recap after all. Yeah.

Just like that's what, Turty watched this weekend. I only was able to watch full swing. It was only five episodes. That was like my night of Yom Kippur, like the night where I couldn't eat after dinner. And then it was over. And the whole season was like about the lead up to the Ryder Cup

and like just knowing how the Ryder Cup went. It was just sad to watch like Keegan Bradley. The Brits. It's Europe. whatever. Keegan Bradley, the coach, like the captain, like talking about how he's going to make the team and how it means so much to him. And it was just like such a flop. The Ryder Cup was a true flop for like our whole country really. Like the players, the fans perform poorly. Like, oh, I seriously feel awkward. Like it was. I mean, the last day was like better because we were down so much. And like

we really came almost all the way back. It doesn't matter. It was insane. Nobody remembers that. They just remember that we lost. Yeah. I do think it's like setting up. And we're always like the the favored, you know, because like we have like Scotty Schaepler and like the number one golfers in the world. They do have Rory. Yeah, I watched a lot of Rory this weekend. You did. Because there was, there was some champ.

I'll never remember the name. Like, yeah. Okay. Because the thing is, it's like times, you know, change, people change. But like he still did that thing with his wife, you know? Yeah. And it's so crazy that the other woman is like the journalist from full swing. Like who's like talking about it.

And they don't really. address it, not that I expect that they would. And this was also the season where Rory won the Masters. And that's when I started paying attention to golf. So it really came full circle for me, but I also kind of knew everything. You mean it helped come full swing for you? It came full swing.

Yes, this is a TV recap podcast. They focused on a lot of like new players because they were trying to show why certain people were picked for the Rider Cup, which was okay, I understand. It was very rider cup focused, which was just tragic. It's a very like inner circle in the no type of show now.

that like you know about. Like this sounds like very niche. No, but it's like the sport of golf. Like yes, I am now aware of what's going on in golf because, well, I'm a year delayed. But because of full swing. You know, like top players in the world. Right. Well, I watch them this weekend.

Who won? It was called like the Biltmore. Is that sound right? Biltmore, probably. They just call everything anything. And they have so many tournaments. Like obviously we know the Masters, but like there's like a hundred a year. No, there's a hundred a year.

And then it's like the, the Travelers Cup, the FedEx, but part of it's like the FedEx. The Travelers Cup I've heard of like that's a big one. And at the Travelers Championship, you win the FedEx Cup. Shilling. Make it make sense.

Like everything has like a name. And then also changes venues a lot. So it's like at the Oakmont, we have the U.S. Open. But they always do the Masters at Augusta. And then there's one at Pebble Beach, right? That's why the Masters is like in a league of its own. That's why we know about it.

Yeah. And that's one of the majors. So I'm not doing this because I know too. Okay. How was your fast? It was good. You know, as good as it could be because like we did it. Check.

And that's all that matters like getting through it. But we got so sick. Like you know Ben. Like he can't just break fast normally. Like he had so many beagles and so many donuts. Margo was in charge. Margaret brought a delicious spread. But she brought donuts.

And Ben was just like, he had this donut in his hand of Boston cream. And I said, that's going to be the one. That's going to be the one that you're going to be like, head in the toilet bowl saying I wish I didn't have that donut. So he put it down. But then he picked up like, you know, nerd scummy clusters. We went to bed at like 9 o'clock. The second everyone left, I was like, I literally was the worst host.

I was like, respectfully, you all need to leave. Yeah. We're not here for like a long time. Yeah. My fast was actually decent, which was surprising. I was like dreading it. I always get a horrible headache. The headache is the worst part.

And then like the headache never goes away like even once you eat. But I didn't get the signature headache. So like, I was mostly okay. It was actually really beautiful day because I wasn't on my phone, which I don't do every weekend like you. Let me tell you, even when I broke my fast and everyone went home, I still wouldn't turn my phone on. Like that cursed phone, I definitely want to try and do it more often. It's just hard because it's not like I'm, like, there's things going on in my phone that I have to like be aware of. Jackie, that's what you think. But if I delegate those couple

things. There's a couple things. Like to Zach, no, no, but like Zach can handle them. I'll be like just, if it's Saturday, call Zach. No, it's like inconceivable that you could turn off your phone. But then you do it and you're like, you know what? You can make it work. Like you put systems in place. I agree. The fastest ended at 7.30, I probably didn't get on my phone until about 9 o'clock, like, after everyone left. I was just like not in the mood. I didn't even miss it at all. I didn't miss it at all. And like, and I've been feeling like I'm on my phone too much. Like, some nights I don't even watch TV or read. I just like scroll on reels. And it's not like I'm watching terrible content. Like, I'm really watching like cooking videos, homemaking videos,

decorating videos. Doesn't matter. But it's just like, I have nothing to show for it. And every time you turn your phone up, when I turn my phone off, I'm like, oh my God, somebody crazy is definitely happening. And then you turn your phone on and nothing happens. It also helps that the people that I feel like I need to be like in touch with at all times. We're around you. No, we're off their phone yesterday. Well, yes. Our family chat is what blows up a hundred times a day. But when we're all off of our phones, then nothing's happening. I always, and every time I see someone like on Saturday, I'm like, what's going on? They're like nothing. And then yesterday, my sister-in-law was like, did you see Cindy Crawford? Her son died. I was like, what? Yeah. I was like,

the first time anything ever actually happened and I didn't hear about it until much, much later. Yeah. When I saw it, I saw like an article like talking about it, not even announcing it. So I'm like, wait. Right. What? Rewind. Right.

Yeah. I had the same reaction. It was so sad. We'll talk about it. That's what it's like jarring to be off your phone. Like you really are disconnected. But most of the time when you're off your phone, like nothing happens. Yeah.

No. So that was a real delight. I mean, you're actually in shule till pretty late. So like we got him like 2.30 and it was like, okay. Like just a couple hours. Then like family came over a little early. that helped. We were chit-chatting. But then I had a coffee before I broke my fast so that I could like stave off a headache. So it took me a while to fall asleep at night. But other than that,

other than that, it was as pretty, it was pretty good. One of the hardest parts was the breath. And I'm talking about like everyone around me. Like I don't know what it was, but like, I sure like I could not stop smelling everyone's breath. And then Ben was saying that there was like a fire breathing dragon in his area. where he was sitting because like seriously you could not stop smelling the breath and of course like you can't help it I can't be mad at people but it's like as if I don't feel poor enough now I have to smell your breath no but the way I feel it's like like like Doree Kemsley if I can smell your breath you're too close so I didn't smell anyone's breath we've got limited I mean we sat down

a chule and I literally said to margot I'm like do you have to sit on my fucking lap like move over and she was like the chair is like here I'm like just move over like oh my god olivian and I sat We had like all these chairs for the kids that they were like off playing. So Olivia and I sat with four chairs in between us. Because I'm like, we can't sit next to each other. And I would have sat with like one in between us. But then we were just like being stupid. But we cannot sit directly next to each other in Yomki-Poor.

Of course not. Like get out of my face. Yeah. And then during nap time, like we also napped and Ben's like looking over at me. I'm like, you need to flip the other way. You're so scary. No, I'm like very triggered by breath. And obviously Yom Keebke-Pi-Ber.

Port is sort of like my Super Bowl. And I just was dodging people left and right yesterday. Like if I saw you at synagogue and I didn't even say hello, like I didn't want to smile your breath. I do not want to speak to anyone. Nobody. And then also I had such an exciting day on Saturday. Do I look any different?

Well, you wouldn't see my hairs behind my ears. You got a haircut. I got a haircut. Yeah. But not just any haircut. Our favorite stylist who cuts your hair in New York who used to cut my hair in New York. came down to Florida mahogany gray. She's such a queen.

And like, I haven't had a good haircut since I left New York, unless I go to New York or go to Dallas. And she came to Florida and cut my hair, and I feel brand spanking new. And there's nothing like a face framing layer to give a podcaster a little bit of peppeter stuff. Except, oh, I don't wear my hair like you do on the show with hair in front of headphones.

So you actually never really see my hair and my layers. But it's still, it's more about how you feel. No, no, like in every other hour of my life, yes. However, in this one hour. Like, do you feel your pieces just sort of like matriculate down to the front and you're just like a sexy little girl with her pieces? Well, I feel like I have, no, I don't know. I feel like I have so much more variety.

Like I can wear my hair up with pieces, up without pieces, in a shin yong, in a tosseled blojai, behind the ears. There's just so many more options. So I'm feeling very excited about that. And that was a fun, a fun girly day. We called it Girls Day. Oh, so much fun you guys have without me. We had a lot of them without you, but we're seeing you soon, so it's okay.

Yes, I am coming down. Quite soon, actually. Yeah. Quite soon. The stories, I guess, are pretty good because we've had a lot. There's a lot. Oh, we also did two patrons. If you were observing the holiday yesterday, you probably didn't say we dropped a Patreon

yesterday. Basically covering all the pop culture news, we weren't able to cover the week prior. We basically choose our five stories. from like 20, 25 different potential stories. So we did all the other stories from that week that we weren't able to cover. Because it was a busy week, but it was also like a little bit of a window

into like our stories using process, which I know that we get a lot of criticism. Criticism for. And so if you were also like hoping to hear like what we think about this or that that didn't make it into the stories, like we talked about everything. It was actually like really fun. I think a great way to like put out a pop culture episode

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has yes to be completed, but it appears that he died of an apparent overdose. He had checked into rehab the day before and he died at the facility. He appeared to be under the influence when he checked himself in one day before. Terrible. Terrible story. I was so shocked when I heard this and I realized that I hadn't heard about Presley Gerber in a while. And I remember when like Kaya was sort of like launched on the scene at like a young age. She was launched with her brother. Like they were both like going to be models. Yeah.

Yeah. And Kaya's career really took off. And I feel like now in hindsight, I didn't even realize it at the time. But Presley definitely like I don't think that life was for him at all. I didn't know he had this, you know, huge struggle behind the scenes. But I don't even think it was so behind the scenes because then I saw a video today resurfacing of him talking about it. Like I think he's been really open about. his addiction.

Also, she's such a tragedy. She's been doing press recently, like, for her show. And I remember I saw a clip of her for a few weeks ago, just like talking about, like, her personality and how she's always felt like she needs to be, like, the achiever because of, like, her brother's, like, substance abuse. Like, she was talking very openly about it to the point that it felt, like, in the past.

Right, like, healed. Like, talking about how, like, the issues that he's had like, sort of, like, leveled their family. Like, it's been incredibly difficult through the years. And, again, like, I didn't know what it was ongoing. especially here I'd be so open about it before this even happened. And I feel like what's so crazy about this is like you could look at somebody like Presley Gerber who was seriously you would think like born into,

I don't know if a more perfect life exists, right, in Malibu, supermodel mom, billionaire dad, supermodel sister, you're good looking, you have every opportunity. And it's like really addiction is the great equalizer because like none of that mattered. Yeah. And even this is somebody who probably had access to like the best type of care when it comes to these types of facilities and, you know, treatments or whatever. And it's just, it is such a tragedy.

And this is her only sibling, right? Yeah. So sad. Like, really so sad. So sad. So sad for the parents. For the parents. It's just a terrible, horrible story. It's so shocking.

So young. Yeah. 27. I, like Pittsville. I couldn't believe it when I heard it. No, me neither. Like. I was like, Cindy Crawford's son.

It was like, it just took me a minute to like, know who we were talking about. Terrible story. Seriously, I hope, I wish them all, like, a lot of, like, luck in their journey ahead. Like, it's going to be tough. The family put out a joint seat and saying they're asking for privacy during this very difficult and painful time,

just enough to say, like, please, like, leave us alone. Leave us alone. I really hope that people do. I don't know. I've seen, like, some really tasteless, like, stories already. Like, inside the facility, $10,000 a week. It's like, stop it. The $7 million house.

of resolutions. Like stop. Yeah. Stop it. Yeah. Not yet. They can't help themselves. But maybe like people can be decent about it and just give them space.

It's just a terrible, terrible story. Yeah. And this, Presley is the one who dated Lexi Wood, right? Yeah. Sad. Lexi. Lexi. She always had nice things to say about him always.

Like she was never, she was like, they pestered her a lot about it during her time on Bravo, like on Watch Happens. to and she always had wonderful things to say about him and his family. She's a classy girl. And I think they're like a really nice family. Yeah. Like as normal and nice as you can be, you know, when you're that. When you, yeah.

Well, rest in peace and just like seriously thinking of the family. Our next story is something I actually broke right after we wrapped on Friday. So we didn't sort of like sitting on it. Well, that's what you get. Now we've recorded so early like we're missing stories. I know. I do feel we've, in recent years,

we used to be like hardcore, like we are not waking up early. Now, like we're up early already so we get the show out. I would rather have this problem than like, I'd rather have people being like dying for the next day's episode.

Of course, of course. No, no, no. We're not like pushing back the show. No, no. But things like this are so fucking in a way. Yeah. Like as I sat here taking my picture for like our Instagram,

I saw it. I'm like, are you fucking serious? What it is is the Traders, Traders season six, cast revealed so celebrity traders is back and regular traders started last week I don't think I'm gonna watch it I haven't like yeah it's hard to feel inspired yeah but like truly like not one person I know yeah but we have celebrity traders it is back it will be um premiering when is it did it say I have no idea I'll sure it did yeah um lots I didn't see anyways seriously

who here's who's on the cast. Kristen Chenoweth. Okay, she's sort of, in my opinion, like the biggest name in terms of like, not reality star, not influencer, but celebrity. Yes. Cody Simpson, another one. Oh, they just said coming soon.

Yeah. Not soon enough. Cody Simpson, another one, big celebrity. Let's talk about Cody Simpson. This feels personal. This, I completely agree that this feels personal. The arc of like Cody Simpson being like model slash whatever,

to Olympian to singer. I'm so here for it. Like, I think that the problem with Cody Simpson, why his career has truly never taken off, he's always been so close, like 50 feet from startup. He was Gigi Adi. It's like, is because I think we don't really know him. And I think Traders is a great place to let people like in on who you are.

Yeah, but I feel like he's going to sort of fall into that like Colton under, well, not in terms of as hated as Colton was, but like, you know, man who's trying to get it done. Like who's taking a game so serious doing. all the challenges, like the way that Colton was. He's very physically fit to. The way that Colton's an athlete as well. I feel like.

Sorry, he's not an Olympian. That was like the whole thing. He didn't make the Olympic team. He's engaged to an Olympian. Oh, good for him. Remember? Yeah, yeah, sort of. Yeah, no, but he's an insane athlete.

So I feel like that's going to be sort of his archetype. Yeah. Giselle Bryant, Real Housewives of Potomac. And you know what? Watching Ultimate Girls Trip, she's the Potomac representative, obviously. it's given me like a new found I don't watch Potomac so religiously anymore and I remember towards the end of my time watching

I start to get so annoyed by her like and she's the same person like she's the bone carrier she heard Lisa say something about the Salt Lake City Housewives so she runs into the Salt Lake City Housewives and she tells them exactly what Lisa said she keeps things moving but she so owns it like she's actually very refreshing

I think the only way she won't do well on the show is if she's a traitor because I don't think she's like a sneaky liar I think her whole thing is that she's so up front I don't think she would be a good traitor Interesting. Well, the other housewife that we have is Bronwyn from Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. And now, like, thinking about Housewives on the show, last season was so Housewives-centric because we had two. It kind of ruined it. Yeah, and they won't do that again.

Good. They did kind of ruin it, honestly. We had two in the turret. Then we had, like, three. Then we had Portia, Durinda, and Caroline Stanbury. So five Housewives total. Too much. I think Bronwyn-Newport will be excellent. Me too. I don't know her because I don't watch all. But I'm watching her a lot on Ultimate Girl's trip because she shows up in Atlanta. And I don't like her.

Just based on the limited content I've seen. I like her and she's very clever and she's smart and well spoken. I think she'll be like, I think she'll excel on the show and people will be like, oh, housewife. Like do-to-do. Ditsy. Yeah. Yeah. Then we have Taylor from Big Brother and Amazing Ray.

So a gamer. There were a lot of CBS stars. A lot of gamers. I guess I'll like skip over most of them because we don't know them. But I will say we don't even have to like get to know. them because they eliminate them first because they're the smartest. It's true. It's true.

It's kind of annoying. We never even get to know them. Whitney Lee of it. Secret Lives and Mormon Lives. I'm so curious if Connor's short stint on dancing with the stars freed them up to do this because when does this film? I thought it already filmed. Oh, you think?

I feel like they film it and then they announce the cast. But I feel like when they film it, it always gets leaked. Like we knew who was going to be on last season before it, you know? Did we? But maybe they did. Maybe they did. Oh, I don't know why I just assume that that it's filmed. No, that's fair.

That's fair. And it's not that long, by the way. No, it's not. I think overall it's like two, three weeks. Yeah. Okay, but I don't know. I may be wrong about that. Then we have Casey Wilson, actress and podcaster.

What's the show? Bitch. Bitch. Yes, an OG Bravo podcast. And they're always on Watch What Happens Live. Yeah, and she's also an actress. Like, she has a very familiar-looking face. She's very funny.

I think she'll be good. I don't know if she would, sell more as a traitor or a faithful, but she's funny. I think that she'll be good because she watches so much reality TV, so she really knows these persons, it's true. Personality's inside and out and she could see if someone's being inauthentic. It's true.

That's kind of an advantage. Like the way that Colton read Renna to filth. Because he's a huge housewives fan. Not even, he just like picked up on something like so obvious. The sunglasses. But the way that she was being is not who she would have been. Lisa fucking Rana. She was so quiet.

So not Rina like. Yeah, she got to wait with it for a long time, though. Yeah. Oh, Cynthia from Real House of Atlanta is also on. I missed that. Cynthia Bailey. She was not at the event. She wasn't on Real Housewives, also my girl's trip.

I wonder why. Opt it out. They had some like true nobody's there. Yeah. I don't know. Okay. She'll provide fun fodder. Yeah, I don't think she'll be very good.

I feel like she's going to be like confused as to like the whole process. Bianca from Rupal's drag race Oh She's a winner Bianca what Bianca They just gave a first name Bianca del Rio

Yeah yeah she's a winner I don't remember like her full personality But She'll be good Janah Craig from Love Island USA The season we didn't watch The season we didn't watch People are very excited about this

I think it's Jenna No I think it Oh okay okay Janette I know it's not Jana. That's why I did something different. I didn't watch, but I was like afraid of your pronunciation. I did something different because I know it's not Jana.

Got it. Okay. People love her. I'm looking forward to getting to know her. Me as well. Chloe from the Olympics, Chloe Kim. Oh, Chloe Kim. Is she the snowboarder?

Yep. Yeah, she's. But she's yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. Jag Baines from Big Brother Amazing Race I don't know.

Bowman, who's a content creator? That's throwing to you, Turdy. Oh, yes, I think I know. Let me triple check. He like cosplays the Kardashians. Like Bowmanizer is his handle. Yes. Oh, oh.

Yeah, yeah. He does like a lot of reality TV content. That's funny. I was thinking that there were like no influencers, but I guess there's one. There is one. I always would love to see more, but. Me too.

It is what it is. Craig Conover, Southern Charm. So obviously. this is what Craig was trying to tell me at the wedding, right? You think? He was like, I've so much to tell you, and then I never saw him again. You think? Yeah, he knows, like, I would appreciate, like, a little bit of gossip like this.

Yeah, can you? I want to know if he already filmed. Like, can you, can you find out? But that's exciting. I wonder how he'll do. I don't know if he's going to do great. Oh, allegedly it's currently filming. Oh.

So I don't need to text him because he won't answer. I'm cracking up. I don't know if he's going to be amazing. I'll say that. Okay, here's the thing. I think Craig gets a bad rap because I don't watch Southern Trump but you've told me he's gotten a reputation

for being a liar. Yeah. I actually hope for Craig's sake he is not a traitor because then he's going to be forced to lie and he's going to be forced to lie to the best of his abilities and if he does it well,

people are going to be like, see, he's a liar and if he does it bad he gets kicked off. I also think like the crew themselves are going to be looking at him suspiciously because of like I think he's most akin to rob of the cast. Oh, I don't.

don't think so. And like they're now going to be like putting him in that box. Yeah, like they always just watch the season, the seasons previous and then they take away the same thing. There wouldn't be two houses in the turret or like, you know, it's always the gamers. So what I feel like they're going to be like, oh, it's the, you know, the guy that thinks you're his friend and it's not. But and that Craig is like very personality wise, like kind of similar. Or I could see Craig being like so misunderstood, like being a faithful, but he does have this like kind of poor reputation on reality TV. So anybody who comes in like Casey Wilson will bring that up. And he's just like Guys, no, he could be like one of the first goals.

Like, guys, it's not me. I think he's going to be punished for Rob. And they're going to be like, oh, we would never suspect you. It's you. Yeah, well, that's true. Yeah. Then we have Michelle from Survivor and the Challenge. Johnny Sibley, an actor.

Johnny Sibili. Spell his name. Johnny. S-I-B-I-L-L-Y. I just feel like if you're an actor. I guess I recognize him Oh, I know him. He's from hacks.

Oh. He plays the guy who does like Deborah's like, she lives in Las Vegas. She's not allowed to use X amount of water. He's like the water police. Oh, that's funny. Then Rashad Jennings, NFL star. Amira from next gen, NYC.

Oh, you know what? I'm hearing so much about next gen NYC. The streets are saying Lexi Wood for next gen NYC because she was like sort of like, like, raked over the coals for Summerhouse. didn't get her proper. And she's so like next time. Bravo owes a debt to Lexie Wood.

I kind of agree. And I will not rest until that debt is paid. It's true. Jesse Solomon should introduce her to the casting director, like just to make things right. Yep. Joey Gratziaday. The Bachelor. People fucking love that Joey Grazie dee.

I did not watch his season of The Bachelor or dancing with the stars. So I know nothing about him. I just know that people are obsessed with him. he would be a great select for a traitor because he's so beloved. He might also get that like Rob Rath. Edit, yeah. We'll see how dumb this group of people is, honestly.

Yes, very true. Also, Joey Grazieyde is like still with the girl that he chose from The Bachelor. Not married. Everything that I've seen. That's okay. Yeah, just, I wanted to like, for the group. I wasn't saying it Chady, I swear.

I really wasn't. They're very young. Everything that I see of Joey, Gratziere is very, very positive so I look forward to getting to know him. I'm on like Dancing with the Stars talk now. They're talking about me and Derek. No kidding.

And they like they show iconic dances and he had he won. He had so many. Drake and I won. Yes. That's like why people love him so much. Like and I also saw something so funny. That's like actually my life right now. It's like is Dancing with the Stars so huge or am I at the Dancing with the Stars age?

Is Dancing with the Stars so huge or am I just watching it? No, no, like, I feel that it's always been this sort of like older person show. And it's like, am I the older person now? It's true. But also, as I think about my. I think it's huge. I think it's huge. No, I don't think.

I think it's always been this as big as it is right now. No, I'm telling you. No, Alfonso says it's the most votes. There was a time where somebody like Alex Earl would have never, ever gone on this show. And I think that like her saying yes to it is proof that the show is not what it once was. But I do think like the last couple years when people like the Bobby Bonesgate, all of these like huge moments like we're huge we just weren't there oh agreed but like is dancing with the stars huge or am i just at that age i think dancing with the stars is as huge as it's ever been and we're just

now watching it so it feels huge i hope so but also like dancing with the stars when i think about why i like it so much obviously i love dance um but all i watch is reality tv like and it's a place where like all my favorite people go you know like yeah that's why i like you also like traitors yeah that's why I like it so much. It's like more of this thing that I really like because I love reality TV. Thousand percent. And I feel like for so long, there were a lot of the shows where it's like random veterans of reality TV shows would go like X on the Beach Island or whatever.

But it was like the concepts of the show were so poor. Yeah. That I feel like now with Dancing with the Stars, traitors, these types of shows where like people can go after their stint on reality TV are also just like good conceptually. Like the shows are good. Yeah. Because this isn't a new concept. he's been doing it forever getting people from the bachelor it's like those shows were gross yeah and i feel

like people like the competition aspect more than like the romance agreed those shows were like trying to get people together to a date yeah um so i look forward to getting to know jori gratzia day and saying his name every week i think it's gratzadz today you say her next year vows joey joey joey gratsia day i like mine better Then we have Q from Survivor. Then we have Ian Sterling. An inspired choice. For those who don't know, Ian Sterling is the British comedian who's behind the voice of all the Love Island narration. He writes it all.

He records it all. He's fucking hysterical. Ian Sterling and Jay Gratia. And I just want to say that Ian Sterling is the perfect example of like making the most of what you got. He got this random job on Love Island. He could have just truly been like a nameless voice. He makes these amazing TikToks. He does his job so well.

You can't help but notice the voice. When did you ever notice a voice? Like it's truly a true example of like he got a gig and he turned it into his dream role. I wonder if like him and Jinnay are going to sort of be allies as like the like because he's from Love Island, just like Robin Mora. Right. Let's think about allyships. Like, who does Craig align himself with? Probably one of the housewives or Casey Wilson if she likes him.

Who knows what, like, her take on him is? Right. Who did she get in the divorce? Who got Casey Wilson in the divorce? It's true. Hager Craig. Or maybe he'll be friends of joy. Gratia de.

Yeah, just sort of like male. I can see. There is like sort of a gendered element to it too because so many of the challenges are like very physical. But then sometimes like you need a little one. Yeah, that's why Candice was great for so long. Candice Bissette. Mora as well. Mora as well.

And then I feel like we're overlooking Whitney Leobbitt. I don't know why. We didn't talk about her like strategically. I don't know. I feel like we don't, she just like is the type of person that's good at everything she does. I was just about to say she is good at everything she does. I wouldn't count her out. She's a good influencer, good reality star, good Broadway.

Good dancer. So yeah, I just feel like she commits like really fucking hard to the shit that she does. But sometimes like if you just have a tar. target on your back in the beginning. There's no way to help you. Like those guys from last season that were gamers. But that's why everyone's so dumb. Who literally saw the conga line like and knew.

Okay. In hindsight, not even in hindsight. Because in the moment, like that was insane. First of all, such a dumb conga line. But like the fact that they were able to figure it out. And so like you're you're punished for being clever. I guess the key is to hide it to like no. But then Lisa Rina tried to like hide her whole self.

No, or to like be smart and actually. stupid. However, if you're already known to be smart because you're a gamer and you won an insane show where you have to be brilliant, they know you're smart. Yeah. Well, I love traders and I'm looking forward to watching it. Me as well. We'll see in the turret. Joy, Gratziadena and Sterling. Oh, no. Jackie's local stims are about to go all the way off. And then I need, joy, gratinian Sterling to join Sagabstra. Okay, I'm sure there are already a it actually Ian Sterling definitely is. If Joey Grazzias today and Ian Starling are the traitors in the turret,

we're not, like you guys are not going to be able to listen to the show for like two months. You won't be to listen to the recaps. No, they're going to be painful. Yeah. I can't wait. Can't wait. You guys, our next story is so crazy. It was been a crazy journey this weekend for Channing Tatum.

Chadding Tatum is fighting for his life after being accused of, of running like a spam hater account called the name of the... None your business. Called Nunya business. So eagle-eyed fans spotted this. It's crazy that people figured this out. This weekend. An account called Nunya business,

like leaving sort of hate comments on Dumas of posts about Zoe Kravitz and Harry Stiles. Now, there's nothing out of the ordinary with like bots. So much celebrity stand culture is literally bot. But this particular bot was curious to people, said eagle-eyed viewers, for two reasons. One, because this account was followed by Channing Tatum, his official account. And two, because this commenter, like, seemingly exclusively was commenting on posts that related back to Harry Stiles, Zoe Kravitz, Channing Tatum, like that orbit of people.

Yes. So people were very quick to sort of assume that this is Channing Tatum's burner account. Yes. And like also some of the comments were like referencing things that Channing has said in the past sort of like deep cuts of public quotes that he made. But like things only really Channing. Channing would sort of want to highlight to the group. And yes, the smoking gun was the fact that Channing Tatum followed this account. And this account had one follower.

Yeah. Channing Tatum. So Channing Tat. And it's just sort of everyone sort of ran with the fact that that is Channing Tatum. For days. He was caught running his own Finstrap. very Normani-esque. However, he has put out a statement

like emphatically stating that it was not him. Denying the allegations. He says that he is not behind the account. He said, you know, if he has something to say, that he'll say it. This is his only official account.

And if he was trying to hide a burner account, why would he follow it? Which I guess is a pretty logical line of thinking. I'm just... But why do you follow it? Why do you follow, like, this random account? Does he follow a lot of other accounts that he really can't explain, you know? I also want to know if Channing Tatum follows 100 people or 1,000 people.

He follows he has 17. He follows 8,000 people. So I could see, you know, certain celebrities follow, like, a lot of, like, their fan accounts or whatever. And if this person is, like, constantly, like, DMing and tagging him and stuff, like, maybe he just threw them a follow. the 8,000 is actually the most compelling piece of evidence for Channing. I agree. Although I was sort of like getting comfortable with the idea of like this being his burner account.

I liked that version better. Well, here's the thing. Also, his statement read like this. Yeah, by the way, like I can't believe this is how he talks. Yo, I truly can't believe y'all think this is what I'm doing with my free time. Fucking hilarious. Also, why would I follow a burner account if I didn't want people to connect me to it? What the fuck?

Come on. But if I really need to say it, I only have one IG account at Channing Tatum. Also, considering that's how he talks, it's very different from the dialect of Nanya business. Also true, but that is kind of a easy way to throw people off changing your dialect. I want to say, like, whether or not it was chanting, like it doesn't matter. People have decided he will never live this down. What is happening? It's just.

Yeah, it's giving Normani. Except, like, with this, there is compelling evidence that it's not him. Sometimes somebody gets caught and it's indisputable. And that's what happened to Normani, unfortunately. It also recently happened to Stella lefty. I don't know if you saw that. Running her own like charts Twitter account. So sometimes like a screenshot really exposes you for like 100% being you.

This is not. No, people are too obsessed with it though. They're not going to, they don't want to see the truth. They don't want to see the truth. They don't want to move on. They don't want to hear from him. I personally like don't think it's him, especially given like the 8,000. He probably just like followed follow for follow, you know, trying to engage with his fans.

Yeah. I don't also see, when I think about the landscape of Channing Tatum's personal life, like I don't see Zoe Kravitz as the one that got away. I personally see Jesse J. is the one that got away. But like I don't feel like he's hung up on her. I feel like they kind of ran their course. That's just a vibe that I get.

Yeah. You can always tell when someone's like still pining for someone. And let's not forget Jenna Duan, who's now back in the conversation. Oh, there's a kind of drama with Jenna Dewan. Do you see drama with Jenna Dewan? No. It's a combination of like Jenna Dewan, but also like the fans like running with stuff. just because like when you're with your partner

on Dancing with the Star is like you just act inappropriate like it is what it is you dance weird you hug a lot you jump into your arms and wrap your legs around them like shit you would never do outside of this and you know between a lot of social media posts and her looking so much like Jenna the wife

people are like starting to you know say Val is acting inappropriate and then like Jenna posted something over the weekend about like Val like something cutesy or whatever in the comments are like you're posting this because of Jenna like Oh wait, Jenna Dewan. Oh my, they're both named Jenna.

I know. It's so funny because when we were talking about the casting, I said, you know, and they look alike and their names will start with Jay. Jay. And they end with Anna. Like, I know why. It didn't like, to me their names are both Jenna.

Yeah, me, though I start to put that together. I thought they were like a little different. Jenna. I thought it was like Jenny, Jen and Jenny. Or like Jesse and Jenna. I don't know. Jenna. Jenna and Jenna.

Like they're both. Jenna Juan and Jenna John. Sin. Yeah. Well, like the fans are making this like into something, but like if you wanted to look for... Fans do this every season, right? Yeah, but a lot of times like there are romances. Artem and Brie Bella. Brie Sprit Stewart and her husband.

Glebb and Brooks. Yeah. A lot of times there are, but usually not between married peoples. No, no. Robert Hergevich, though, the exception. He was separated. So? So he was separated. And Jen and Jouan is married to Steve Kazee from the Twilight soundtrack. Yes.

Exactly. She's not stepping out on that sort of generational talent. No, but like at what point, like is it weird? Yeah. Well, do we want to enjoy our show or do we not want to enjoy our show? No, we want to enjoy our show tonight. It's on tonight. Yeah.

Oh, not tomorrow. Oh, interesting. No, because today's Tuesday. It's confusing. No, no, I'm just used to be being Tuesday. Wednesday because of last week. No, just Tuesday, which is like, it's enough. Tomorrow night freed up. Interesting.

I was thinking again, because I don't know if you've seen, but NBC, am I okay? The voice just returned with kind of like a stellar coaching lineup. Have you seen? It's Kelly Clarkson. They brought back Adam Levine. Like, enough. Do the people really want to see Adam Levine?

I don't think so. Riley Green and Queen Latifah. Like, it's kind of this all-star. And so, again, I don't know. like, is the voice becoming good or am I just at the age where I want to watch the voice? Because this morning, I literally scroll TikTok watching every single audition. Unless it's reality stars competing on the voice. There is, celebrity voice.

Yeah, and that's why I will watch that. Who are the judges for the celebrity voice? Did we do that? No, I don't know. Oh, but I thought about, I thought it was mass singer. Oh, no, that's my singer. No, it's the voice. I should watch more mass singer.

You should, actually. That is like the same thing. But this is the voice celebrity. So it's like who are the voice coaches for the celebrities? Interesting. It's nice to see Kelly out there. Like obviously things are slowing down on the, on the daytime show front, picking up other gigs. Yeah.

But it's not that she wants to work less. No. Are you ready for our fourth story? Oh my God. No, I'm like sitting here like so daily. Do we have secret lives of Mormon lives of Mormon lives drama? We do. Okay.

I've been meaning to tell you that. Actually, fourth is, it's crazy that it's fourth. but it's learned this. Oh good, I want to talk about that too, because I saw I was watching football looking for Taylor. And I saw Riley Green and Queen Latifah. It was an NBC game, so they obviously brought them to Kansas City to do something promotional. And I was like, Riley Green and Queen Latifah are the hosts of the voice. I think I need to watch.

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Also, Travis is buying Taylor a gun for Christmas. That clip cracked me up. It was obviously like a blooper from the cutting room floor of New Heights that they decided to post. They didn't like know that they were being recorded. They're watching Taylor's Emmy's Mariska Hargatay skit. And the producers like, all right, we're ready. He was like, oh, sorry. And he was basically saying, I actually cracked up.

I actually cracked up with a gun on her waist. And then Travis goes, ah! Jesus. It's like, she cracked me off. That's what you took from that. And Travis was like, now I know what to get her for Christmas. I mean, what do you get the girl who has everything? A gun.

That's beautiful. Now, let me say this. I watch a little bit of Taylor at the game. And I learned a lot about the game, you know, like the team. How's Travy doing? So there's this new guy. And obviously, like, everyone's really excited about it. I can't remember his name.

I'm sorry, but he's, you know, let me just, let me get his name. And he's, like, scoring all the points and stuff. And it's obviously great for the Chiefs, because the Chiefs, because the Chiefs, like we're on this generational run I think last season was sort of like a flop. They had this like really highly produced commercial with Nikki Glazer because she's from Missouri. And it was all about how like everybody hates us.

We're building a dynasty. But like we're back. Like their whole mantra this year is like we're back. We've appeared in five out of seven of the most recent. Super Bowl is like we're back. Last year was a fluke. Sorry about that. And I think this new guy is a huge part of it.

And he's kind of like putting Travis out a little bit. Just because like Travis's job is like to run and catch and score. And like this guy is like doing that, you know? Well, Travis is going to retire soon. So, like, you do need to, like, fill the shoes before there's a gap, before there's nobody wearing the shoes. Kenneth Walker, the third. He's a all-star running back.

He signed a three-year deal with them after winning the Super Bowl in Seattle. Got it. Last year. Last year, Seahog's won. Yeah. Okay. So that's good. No, it is good.

But so I think the fact that Travis scored a touchdown is kind of, like, huge. Also huge considering, you know, last season. Right. Not his best. So that's very exciting. And hopefully it means he has a great season ahead of him. And I think it's his last season. We say that every year.

So you want your last to be great. I also think that. But then when it's great, you're like, should it be my last? I know. It's kind of a catch-22. But if you find yourself asking, oh, my last season was so great, should it be my last? The answer is yes. Yeah.

Now, I feel that we can pretty much, we can never guess what she's going to do, but I feel like she's going to be at pretty much all the home games now. Like that's her husband. Yeah. She has this great relationship with the family that owns the stadium and the team. And they always, you know, they get her in, security, everything. I feel like, yeah, she's going to be there. She's doing, you know, revving up some, like, work stuff.

She's set to be honored at the MTV VMAs with a new award called the Artist Director Honors that she will be receiving. They just make shit up. On Sunday at the VMAs, which does clear her up to give a speech and perhaps an announcement. It's giving announcement. I thought we were going to get an announcement at the CMAs and it was going to be like more because she keeps like same country, country. We could get more announcements at the CMAs. I feel that the VMAs are so irrelevant. to like genuine culture.

But I think she has a very complicated relationship with them, of course, like the Kanye thing. She's always like doing the most at the VMAs. Yeah. Her re-record, like medley, remember? She does a lot of shit there. I think it's just like a safe place where there's a camera crew and a stage and you can do whatever you want.

I guess it doesn't matter. Like anyone can do whatever they want at the VMAs. If you just show up, you'll just show up. You can seriously do whatever you want. It's just annoying because I really wasn't planning on watching the BMAs. And now I sort of have to. No, no, no. I don't think I can watch, honestly.

But just like text me when she's getting her award. Coming. Yeah. I'll come in for that. Okay. I actually don't think I can handle it. That's what I mean. I'm almost like annoyed at her for making me even consider it and like talk about the BMEs.

And that like I have to say VMAs on the show. I know. I know. Like I know. I'm just, I'm watching Dancing with the Stars. It's sort of like a full-time job. No, no. It's one or the.

other like I'm not in my VMAs era no I don't think you're alone in that yeah um so yeah big cute weekend for Lurdvis I feel like a lot's percolating there the percolation the new haircut is so good the face is so good yes everything is looking really good over at taylor nation HQ yeah there was like a picture of her from the game this weekend like with her hands on her hips like standing at the in the box and like she looks insane the amazing her arms are jacked yeah Like she looks amazing. Yeah. She obviously did like a wedding arms series.

It's very popular to get your arms and check for your wedding. And they look great. And maybe we'll never get a picture of her at the wedding, but now we know what her arms looked like at her actual wedding. But we will know what they looked like two months later. Yeah. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? Yes.

Taylor Frankie Paul announces that she's stepping away from secret lives of Mormon wives after allegedly failing her court-ordered drug tests and citing disgusting bullying from her castmates. The crazy thing is that she decided to step down and like her, after all of this, losing custody of her kids, failing a drug, like all these terrible things that she did. And her statement is all about like the girls' TikToks

and like them cyberbullying me. Well, what happened was... Layla happened. Layla happened. Lela happened. Who to thunk? Laida be the one to put her... in her place. They're fighting on TikTok and she fights so dirty and nasty.

We were just saying, she's like to J-S-O, but you didn't have me in your bedroom. Like, she's like, nasty always comes. She goes there. The way that she fought on the show, just like saying the nasty, like when she goes to this place of just like, hate and I'm just going to say the meanest thing. And there's like no line that she won't cross.

And she's accusing, so she's fighting with like Miranda and Layla in the comments. She's like, you guys are jealous of me, whatever. And Layla writes back, jealous of the girl who gets eight hours a week with her kids. I don't think. think so. And you know what? It sort of had to be said.

It was a conversation ender. Because that's what we said last week. Like Taylor's social media is completely devoid of what's going on in reality. And so for Taylor, I mean, for Layla, to just like bring reality to the comment section, I really appreciated. And the fact that like we've now learned all this stuff about Taylor and her reason for leaving is because I think it's a big mean to me. It's like, girl, that's not what happened.

So then she posted. So after that sort of went silent, you know? Yeah, right. Layla shut shit down. Yeah, she shut it down. Then Taylor posted like a long-winning thing on Instagram saying that her gratitude goes out. I almost didn't read it because she's always talking like this, but I was like, let me see. Oh my God, it's so true.

Gratitude goes out to all the networks that supported me throughout this and gave me the chance to return. However, I don't desire to move forward like this. She then lashed out of her castmates saying they engaged in a pile-on. She wrote that laughing about my kids is disgusting. That's like not really what happened. No, that's not what happened. And I agree that like kids are off limits, but like at what point can we stop circling the drain

as to what's really going on with you? No, we're not that. No one was laughing at her kids. They were laughing at her. Correct. She also like hinted at, you know, the fact that she's made a mistake that all of them are guilty of making some,

and that, you know, she's just the one paying the ultimate price for it. I don't know what that means specifically like maybe having done drugs or drinking. Wait, read it again? let me get the exact verbiage. Actually, I can't even lie. I did not read it.

Her statement, she's so verbose. Oh, she is. And she's just like tells lies. Like, I'm like, girl, what are you talking about? I live here in reality. No, I was shocked to find that there was actually some meat in the statement that said, okay, so here's a statement. Gratitude goes to all the network.

And there was screenshots of like pictures of her with screenshots of like her fans' comments on it, of people defending her. like the comments that she liked, she found two of them. My gratitude goes to all the networks that supported me throughout this and gave me the chance to return. However, I don't desire to move forward like this. I originally was willing to be removed to let them all continue on with less stress and I'm back to that point.

Some of the girls know what I've been through and then turn and collectively pile on with their statements, knowing there has been ongoing abuse through the system the last eight months on top of what I've endured. Almost the entire class plus some going at me. Laughing about my kids is disgusting. And I bit my tongue there. These same people had meetings telling me I need to lead the way of pay. My voice was the only one that can make it happen and then they would work from what I demanded.

I'm grateful I never followed through with their requests of demands and I'm grateful I kept same pay out of fairness and integrity. I treated production and crew with respect always. In fact, they're the ones who checked on me throughout this. I agree it's to the point of bullying for months now. What makes it harder to take in is some of these parents have made mistakes that would result in the same judgment I'm receiving, yet pointing a finger. However, I feel like she's accusing them of having done drugs and get drinking wild and crazy. However, it's a pleasure to remove myself so they can continue because I'm almost convinced

myself I'm deserving of all this pain. And to a certain degree, absolutely, this is the consequences of my actions. My question has been how much suffering and scrutiny is going to be enough. I'm just relieved to be out. And we are so tired. Like, I am so tired. I don't even know what the hell you're talking about. I also don't feel like she's really stepping back.

This is just giving like attention seeking statement. Michaela was asked like, oh, well, Taylor's gone. Does this mean like you'll come back? And she said no. And I agree with her. It's like, well, it's nice that Taylor's stepping back. The fact that like the show would have chosen her to continue. Like who wants to be part of that?

It's like it's just icky and gross and trashy. Yeah, but this is what I was saying last week. Like I felt like Michaela's statement and position had gained so much steam that it was like, I feel like something actually might happen because of this. I never expected the network to like choose Michaela over Taylor. they just never would. But yeah, I guess Taylor's seeing that. Imagine your Taylor and the whole world is.

And it's like finally, like the fans have never, not once, like given Taylor any sort of grief. Like they just love her. Yeah. So if the whole world is taking the side of the girl who said that she won't be anywhere that you are and everybody wants to like, you know, see her and be with her, then okay, then I'll leave. But this is also so classic Taylor. Like she's so aggressive. She's so nasty in the comments in everything that she says.

And then when she gets it back, she's a victim. him. Yeah, no, she's like textbook narcissist. It's so painful to watch and listen. And I just want to say, like, Lela and Miranda, like, I love what Lela said. Like, somebody needed to say it, but like, I'm so tired of these spineless women. Like, only after

Michaela went out on a limb and was like, listen, I'm not comfortable doing this anymore. And got so rewarded for that. Did the other girls feel in power? Which be like, oh, now the fans won't hate us. Let me say something. Meant to Taylor. Like, they're so fucking immature. They're so not principled. And it's like, yeah, I love that she ate her up.

It's like, why did you feel, like, why were you only empowered to do that now? And it's because, like, it's not brave now. No, it's not brave now. I completely agree. They are all followers. The only one who was brave was Michaela. And I will also say Macy for not backing down in the confrontation, knowing that Taylor's fans might hate them and everyone who watches the show might hate them.

And knowing that was a consequence and like, whatever. Yeah, whatever. Jesse was not prepared to do it. No, but she- Miranda and Layla were certainly not. They didn't say anything. At least Jesse tried. Like she was saying a similar thing to Michaela and Macy, but like couching it.

So soft. But that's also her personality. Like I don't think that if she started now trashing Taylor, like because that would be lame. But this is her personality to just like try and like be a peacemaker. So I don't I don't really have an issue with that. But to be that way and then come out swinging only because it's popular is lame. And what's the same pay thing that Taylor's saying is that they all ended up getting paid the same? It sounded like the girls wanted her to go to production and demand more pay,

and they told her, like, how to do that because they felt like production. I'm just making this up, but basically I'm what you're saying, trying to, like, make sense of this pile of mush. She, it sounded like that they wanted her to go to production to demand more pay because production would listen to her. She is, like, the leader of mom talk. And they were asking her to negotiate on all their behalf because they all get paid the same. I do think they all get paid the same.

Me too, because you also can see their executive producers now in the Redits, all of them. Yes, and remember, like, the Demi conversation when she was trying to get more money, and then Taylor was like, even I'm not trying to get more money, and I'm, like, the star of the show. No, you need to negotiate. You need to all be paid the same. It gives you a lot of power against the network. It's the only way the show can sort of stay on the rails in terms of personality.

And sorry, Taylor, while she might be the star, she never shows up. No, but, like, her drama was always bigger. She was providing more. So, yeah, the people who show up all the time, I don't want to hear from you all the time. I know. Your drama is not the one I'm interested in. Until now, it's like, even though I don't really care so much about like relationship drama, but it was just like Taylor in general.

It's just very fascinating. Yeah. And chaotic. But we've all had our fill, I guess, and things have just gotten to a point. And I feel like even they got to a point in when we saw the video and people were starting to like give grace for that. But to see the behavior that was on this season. And even though the behavior on the season is from before that video came out.

So imagine she changed drastically after she was thoroughly canceled. Like imagine that because that's what I was sort of thinking. Like, and I'll give her grace because the big thing hasn't happened yet. And she's still like just this moron. Yeah. And a lot of times going through like a big public scandal like that does change you to your core. 1,000% percent. I think we now realize Taylor is a person who's not capable of change.

For me, it's all this stuff that's happening online now that the season has aired and her fighting with the girls and like not really taking accountability and just like getting so nasty just speaks to the fact that she's still defending the person. She was when the season aired. When the season was filmed. So I'm out. Yeah, right. She's like vouching for herself and it's like, girl, you're indefensible.

Yeah. If you had been like the first one to be like, oh my gosh, watching this back, like, Macy and Michaela were so right. This was such a hard time in my life. Like plus compounding it with like the drug test failure. The loss of custody. Yeah. And just the refusal.

then so that's that's present day you know still not making the changes needed to have the agency over your life and your family like I don't know yeah and I don't know if she's actually leaving because she does seem like the type to do shit like this for attention but no to garner the fans back yeah oh no Taylor we love you

come back we'll help you we'll keep your secret but like I really hope it's real even though I don't know what that even means for the future of the show because Michaela's not coming back so what now nobody's coming back and we all are going to have to watch the secret lives of OCY Like, I'm okay. Will mom talk survive this?

Bring back to me. Yeah. We're ready. And Whitney. Yeah. Yeah. And like, where's Jen Affleck in all of this? Oh, yeah.

She's like not a part of the group. Like, no. It's, it's. She, like, posted, like, I only have videos like this from this season. It's like her with her kids. It's like, okay, but you were there the whole time. So what happened? No, her position is very strange.

Well, it's awkward because she looks like such a moron for being used like a pawn into that argument. And now it's like, girl, is that the side you want to be on? Yeah. She just had nowhere else to go. She's just staying quiet. That's what she should do. You know what?

It's a good tactic. But seriously, Blank and you might miss it. This drama never ends over in the secret lives of Mormon wives. But they're not filming. They're not filming. Or they are. I don't know. I don't know.

Well, those are the fast-size stories. It's crazy that, like, biggest news was number five. Like, truly five banner stories today. Yes, three-day weekend. Love a day like that. And that's our show. Tonight, we've got Tanxi with the Stars, so expect a full recap tomorrow.

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