The Toast - Not To Be Negative: Monday, February 6th, 2023

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Good morning, Millennials, and welcome back to the Toast. Happy Monday. It's unfortunate, but it is what it is. And you know what? We're getting one step closer. We're actively starting the week. It's better than just waiting for it to happen. Yeah, we're starting things.

We're starting new things, new week. Anything is possible this week, you guys. Whatever your dreams are, chase them. Make them happen. If you got a chance take it beautiful thank you if you have a chance take it and that's the song that won period country song over taylor everything okay yeah no no it's like i can't remember what it won but it won something over taylor swift last night i won like the pre-show last night pre-show awards what song is it Cody Johnson oh if you got a chance take it it's actually really

good it sounds like a great song with a great message that's exactly what it sounds like that is exactly what it sounds like um so we have a great show today we've got Grammys recap we've got Bryce in the building we're gonna talk we're gonna mention it all yeah a lot of Grammys because you watch the whole thing I watched until Luke Holmes performed and so unfortunately that meant I had to watch about three-fourths Jinx or 75 percent Jinx you owe me a soda you owe me a soda go get me one you've been drinking my sodas all week you can't talk until I say your name you've been drinking my sodas all week so I can't talk until I say your name. You've been drinking my sodas all week, so I've gotten you a soda. You're not respecting the rules of Jinx.

No, I'm not. I don't respect games. That was like the most annoying game to play as a kid. Not if you don't play. Yeah, I guess it's not an annoying game if you don't abide by the rules. No, they don't exist. Jinx. Also, another annoying one was when you farted, like safety.

Yeah. And then what was the rules? Like if somebody said something before you said safety you couldn't talk you had to kill yourself no like what was doorknob or something you know what i'm talking about i don't play dumb fucking games like okay but like you like we we abided by that game but i didn't process the rules because i wasn't playing so they're not ingrained in my psyche you're such a bad friend like friends play games with one another and i do everything else with you like so true there's things you don't do with me we spent the whole weekend together we did and week my friends were here this weekend it was really nice we had

such a fun like really such a fun weekend but also very wholesome you know aside from like saturday night when we went out partying yeah but like we cooked we sat around we swam we didn't read which was surprising for our crew but we should have read instead of deciding to watch the triangle of sadness i can't even give that movie a platform on my platform it's like there's things that i can't control in this world i know but i can control what i give air to on this show let me it's not the biggest show in the world but it's my corner of the universe let me offer a rebuttal as to why we need to talk about it okay to make sure after this not one of you watches it not one if you were thinking about watching it do not zero zero zero none let me

tell you why because i watched it because and i'm really i'm calling out my friend abe he was like this movie on his instagram stories like it's basically he's disgusting it's basically White Lotus and then I saw then after he said it I saw like a bunch of people so it's like the normalization of the film I was like oh this is probably disgusting anyone who saw the movie and didn't come away being like don't you dare watch that movie is a disgusting person sorry it's so it was so disgusting and like if you can get beyond like if you're not easily triggered by like vomiting and diarrhea, which is just like kind of disgusting to watch, the movie itself is not good either. But like there is like literally a 20 minute scene that is so disgusting.

Of people, okay, spoiler alert, because none of you are watching it now. They get seasick. They get like food poisoning, seasick, there's a storm. And it's 20 minutes of people on the boat, different scenes of them vomiting, shitting, diarrhea, flowing from the toilets all over the boat, slipping in like 20 minutes of it. It's so vile.

And the way that like this movie has been so discussed, like, and there's just been discourse around it. And nobody thought to mention the vile, disgusting feces and like human waste. I'm shocked by the culture. I really am. And the first half of the movie is so boring, but you think they're laying the groundwork for a movie.

So it's like, okay, I'll, I'll try and understand like the dynamics here. And then I actually didn't finish a movie, but I probably watched with like 30 minutes left. Like 40. Yeah. Okay. That's when I got up. But I got to

like the main point of it um and then you told me what happened at the end and it's like nothing about the first half of the movie is at all remain to the second half of the movie it's like why did i watch all that crap crap crap i don't give a rip it was crap so my journey of watching oscar movies like i'm done you guys it's disgusting world crap. So my journey of watching Oscar movies, like I'm done, you guys. It's disgusting world out there. Yeah. My journey, I watched The Menu and Triangle of Sadness and neither of them were that compelling.

I do still want to see The Whale. Of course. But that's it. Of course. I'm done. I tried. I can't relate. You guys are sick.

I can't relate to the cinema industry. I really can't. It's not for me. And that's okay. it's not for me and that's okay it's not for me and anyone who saw the movie and that anything other than it's disgusting to say about it like can't relate sorry couldn't be me maybe we'll talk again someday maybe not today maybe not today maybe it's a big baby but you never say never like things could be bring people together all the time. I will fight it forever. I will never say never.

I don't know. Those are the only words I know. Those are the only important ones. So fucking true. So that's what we did on Friday night when we should have been reading and watching anything else. Sam wanted to watch The Sound of Music. We should have listened to her. 100%.

For like Maria would never. She would never the baroness would never the baroness doesn't die or yeah no so this is just like we i feel you know i don't take this platform lightly like i feel like every episode you should leave with a message or a moral or something and today's is do not watch the triangle of sadness like Like trust and believe. Like it was infuriating. And then the ending, I think they were really trying to make some sort of statement on like elites

and you know, the disparity between the rich and the poor. And like, I get the message and I think they actually do that really well in White Lotus. This was so like exaggerated and unrealistic and unfulfilling at the end, honestly. It was fucking terrible. Yeah, it was fucking terrible. Yeah.

It was insane. It was an insane movie in the worst ways possible. Agreed. And now that like, I've tuned into the Grammys from start to finish, I feel like I've gotten like satiated in terms of award shows. Like, I don't think I'll be watching the Oscars.

Yeah. It just depends where I am in my life, but I don't, it's not fun to watch the Oscars when like you really don't have a horse in the race. Yeah. Well, if I see the whale, I'll have a horse. I'll have a whale really don't have a horse in the race yeah well if I see the whale I'll have a horse I'll have a whale you'll have a whale in

the race because with the Grammys last night like we all had horses and none of our horses won really yeah I have a lot and they did their favorite thing where everyone took home one award all the big you know I think Lizzo won an award Adele Beyonce it wasn't a sweep when I really thought it would be either a Beyonce or a Harry it should be a sweep you know what was tops no like if we're really kind of you know judging the best then there is only one yeah and make a choice make a choice everyone wins I know you want all these people to make speeches because it's like good for your ratings but make a choice that's always interesting make a choice. That's always interesting.

Make a choice. I completely agree. Choices were not made. And the thing is, it would be a really hard choice. I don't even know what choice I would make between album of the year with Harry Styles, Beyonce, Lizzo, Lizzo, and Adele. No, the thing is, it's not your choice to make. That's why there's a whole ass like company called the Recording Academy whose job it is. No, but it's not like I'm saying like, Harry was robbed.

Right. Like, I don't know really, you know, you'd have to tally up the votes. But like someone should be sweeping. Yeah. And it's not the sweeper. No, it's not. It should be, but it's not. So who would you have swept?

Harry. Yeah. Like it was, whether you love him, hate him, whatever, it's undeniable that Harry's music really defined this year. And it was the whole album. It wasn't just one or two songs from the album. That's how you know that like an album really, like people digested it.

Permeated. Yeah. So he won, I think like two out of three that he was like. Top vocal and album of the year. Album of the year is like the biggest one. The one. It's a category that feels like a real category. And Harry's album was an album that felt like a real album album do you think that when he gave us nothing in that interview

and then was roasted for it subsequently that like he ever knew that it was probably the most profound quote of the year like it's like when kylie kylie said like this is the year of just like realizing things and at first it goes viral because we're making fun of it but then like we can't stop saying it because it encapsulates everything. And it is in its own way quite substantial. Yeah. Although it was mocked for being, you know, no substance, inconsequential. But maybe the joke's on us.

We didn't understand the deeper meaning. But I'm obsessed. It's like a self-fulfilling prophecy. Because his album is an album that feels like a real album it does from start to finish it is a cohesive work of art yeah so let's dive in because we have a lot to talk about from the Grammys I have so many thoughts some good some bad and some like I'm gonna like people need to get roasted like it just has to be done yeah yeah I was I wasn't loving what I was seeing no honestly I wasn't in love it was like a bad award

show but it was good and enjoyable because everyone showed up. Yeah. Everyone was there. But I also felt like the setup, like when Trevor Noah was doing his monologue and he was like walking amongst these little tiny tables and celebrities like had to like twist themselves. And I was like, you guys know how to twist like that? It's so uncomfortable.

It was so human. Yeah. But it made me feel weird. Yeah. Even though I think celebrities should be like treated like people because they are like the big like Adele is twisting and turning it at a bad angle while the big dress while we look at Trevor Noah oh and Lizzo's next to her like it was just weird yeah no it definitely was weird and Luke Holmes is in the background like not knowing he's on television like I can't stop staring at him so I will say I don't know if this was done intentionally

but like they definitely everyone was pretty they definitely, everyone was pretty vulnerable. You know? Everyone was vulnerable. Everyone was pretty vulnerable in terms of angles. But then in also terms of like they shot really wide and like Trevor Noah was standing. You might've thought if you're a couple seats over, you're not on camera, but like you were. And we saw your face, you know? And they kept cutting to like,

they were being shady with the cuts. You know, if Harry was on stage, they would show Taylor. Like they were being, they were giving the people what they needed. You know, getting Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck like on camera twice fighting like they didn't know I didn't get that vibe from them I thought no everyone's like he's miserable he doesn't want to be there with her no like they were cute okay no I mean I found them to be cute they I found them to be relatable I didn't see them fighting I saw like there was one time not during a song

or anything like right before a commercial break. They panned them. Jen was like on her phone, but not in like a. That's fine. Not in a too focused sort of way. And like Ben was just like chilling. I was like, that's a real couple. By the end, I saw a lot of people on their phones. It was a really fucking.

I mean, it was supposed to end at 11 and I don't think I turn my TV off to like 1145. So it was really long. A lot of people were on their phones. Yeah, you didn't turn your TV off till midnight. You can only feign enthusiasm for like other people's accomplishments for so many hours. Yeah. Or at least I can. Yeah.

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Next time. I tried. First story, Grammys 2023 recap. So we'll go through all the winners. I did want to say Trevor Noah was abysmal. I know it's a job like that nobody wants and no one really does a good job. But like his jokes were so like cliche and obvious, almost corny. Like, hey, Harry, like I love you in women's clothing.

Can I come on tour with you? Like, yikes. He did, though. I know I sound crazy, but he made a joke about anti-heroes yeah and like like we made that up did we not like not to make everything about us okay we came to the joke on our own like that was our joke and I do believe he came to the joke on his own like it's not the most original joke we say that all the time when people are like you copy me it's like well we both have brains and it's a pretty clear connection yeah that's fair we're able to a pretty clear connection. Yeah, that's fair.

We're able to come to it on our own. Okay, that's fair. So I didn't feel like he took that from us. And I was glad that the aunties, like, I'm never going to complain when the aunties are getting props. Representation. You know? No, I agree.

And that joke reached Taylor. Now she knows. And she thought it was funny. She's really just polite. Everyone was being polite. She's very well-mannered, that Taylor Swift. Yeah. Everyone was being polite because his jokes were really bad. Like, they were really kind of elementary like intro to comedy jokes they were

just so obvious no like I was watching him and I was like watching with an open mind you know it's my Sunday night I had like a Haagen-Dazs ice cream mini bar and I'm sorry was to sleep I was in strice was there we had heating pad like I was ready to enjoy my life I really went in like looking to have not to complain like I didn't have my phone I didn't have my kindle out um and my takeaway was that like he's a big loser yeah and he was just being a loser yeah and again it's it's really not a job that you can ever come out on top of so I don't know why anyone would do it but you can like especially there are people who do it and it's like we don't hate that some people do amazing few some people like doing well enough you know you just have to make yourself scarce

like I just feel like whatever it's scarce it's scarce scarce you said scars scarce like you like you just do the least and like bother people the least and don't take up that much time and like don't do anything so like outrageous you really you're supposed to blend in as the host yeah and he just was not it was it was really not good so I hate to be like a negative but he was bad yeah um now let's go through the the winners like the top order of how we watched it okay best pop vocal album Harry Styles Harry's house agreed best R&B song Beyonce cuff it and she was not there to accept because she was stuck in traffic which was like really shocking that they admitted that she was coming and that she was late and like she wanted to like she meant to be there but she like wasn't there yet queen um i have a

lot of thoughts on beyonce i feel first of all did anyone else feel like so everyone was talking about beyonce like on the red carpet they're like are you excited to see beyonce it was literally a question who are you wearing are you excited to see Beyonce um and it felt very much like Beyonce sweet 16 like it was Beyonce's night and it was because she was hopefully gonna reach this like historic achievement um but like the monologue was all about Beyonce and it did feel a little weird just because like this was a room of other successful people like supposed to be celebrating their own accomplishments but it was like and I felt like every time they they spoke about Beyonce once she arrived and they like cut to her like she was getting fucking annoyed like it's like it's kind of awkward she's just these

are her peers technically even though like they're not they're her peers and so to make it like the whole night was about Beyonce I felt like she was like embarrassed like people were just like acting crazy about Beyonce she's like stop like I'm just here like everyone else even when Harry um collected his award for album of the year like somebody screamed in the dead silent like it should have been Beyonce and like it was awkward apparently in the stadium um and it's like I just felt like everyone was like acting out on behalf of Beyonce and Beyonce was like can you guys all calm down like it was like kind of like I felt like she wasn't into it at all you know it was like it was awkward yeah that is awkward and I think it would be awkward to be on the receiving end of

that yeah not even her like being shy just like being like trying to act appropriate. Just like just and wanting to just like be a real person. It's also it's not like she's in a room full of like. Nobody's. Yeah, like Adele is there. Taylor Swift. Like and all those hip hop legends like. Yeah, it was weird.

Everyone really showed up and I could imagine that would feel a little weird it's like plus she's already getting like she's making history like we're honoring her yeah you know everyone also doesn't need to be like acting like a two-year-old no and I feel like that's like Beyonce's life like showing up places and people like act like fools around her she always has to like like make up for it you know what I mean yeah like of course the example like of Kanye and then when Taylor you know then when Beyonce won an award later on, she gave her speech to Taylor. She's like always like correcting other people's behavior on behalf of her.

Yeah. So I just felt like she was like kind of like embarrassed. And I would be too. It's like, can I just blend in for a second? Like, I get it. I don't know. I just felt like the whole night it was like the name on everybody's lips is Beyonce, as it should be.

Did she perform? No. But she should have. Totally. Right. Because all the performers were like people who were nominated for album of the year. Album, yeah. Right?

Yeah. That's like how it went. Yeah. That she didn't perform. No, not everyone. Not everyone. Really? Yeah.

Oh, I guess like Unholy and their satanic performance that did not go over well. Luke Holmes was not. He was not nominated for album of the year? No. Huh. And I thought he was. We'll get to it. We'll get to it.

Next, best country album winner. Let me tell you the nominees first. Yes. Ashley McBride. Queen. Luke Holmes. Obsessed. Maren Morris.

Love. Miranda Lambert. Would take a bullet. Willie Nelson.ie let me say something because this is absolutely and the winner was willie nelson this is no disrespect to willie nelson and i think country music in general you know as most genres try to do like they really pay so much respect and homage to those who came to the legends and to those who came before them and I'm sure Willie Nelson's album is good it's this is not you know taking anything

away but like I don't think you could take away from Willie Nelson be ffr be fucking for real like come on you're kidding me right like I don't know first of all to give it to someone it shouldn't count like whether you show up or not but you know this is an entertainment show and there were people there for the same reason they spread out all the awards so everyone would make like a viral speech yeah i mean i was so rooting for luke holmes but like honestly i would have understood when the category was announced i was like shit like luke is has some steep competition like anyone could win except for willie like except for willie he's nominated like out of respect. But I was like it could be Ashley McBride.

It could be Miranda Lambert. It could be Mara Morris. I was like good luck Luke. No honestly Miranda Lambert. Her album is incredible. Like she and if anyone else would have won. I would have been like you know what I'm sad. I would have understood.

I would have been like okay. But I respect it. Yeah like Luke didn't win. I loved it. But like it wasn't Luke's time for it to be Willie Nelson I would just love to know like what those artists like think of this I know um also I feel like the Grammys like it just felt like they didn't even listen listen to any of the albums it's like they looked at the list and it's like oh we know Willie

Nelson and he's really talented and I feel like now thinking back like they do that also with chris stapleton he wins everything and the thing is he's so worthy so you don't question it but it's like what about the other people who actually deserve to win but like i don't think like this was the only country music category luke was the only country music performer and like i don't think they even listened honestly no i i could see that i could see that definitely being the reality it was really upsetting honestly because it just feels like every now and then they'll just like throw a curve ball to like be different, which we'll get to for song of the year.

And it was like at the expense of my artists, you know, Taylor lost because Bonnie won and Luke lost because Willie won and not to make everything about me, but it felt like a personal attack. No, it felt like so disrespectful, honestly. And like Luke was there. They didn't even care.

And Luke performed. So like Luke is, and just, honestly. And like Luke was there. They didn't even care. And Luke performed. So like Luke is, and just the sheer fact that like Luke Combs doesn't have a Grammy. He's now lost six times. Wow. It's so flawed. Yes, but I take solace in really believing that Luke doesn't care about the Grammys. That Luke has everything, like, you know, he's so grateful. And I think he goes to the Grammys because it's cool and it's a sign of respect and like he's up there with his

wife right and like he gets to it's a great concert but I think it does not chip away from him whatsoever to not have a Grammy no for sure but like you go you want to win yeah I think for for 15 minutes it's a bummer yeah we're all human even Luke Combs it's shocking but it's true his performance was beautiful I actually maybe it was because I like put him later in the show like please disrespect him more some of us have a bad time um I waited so long some of us bootleggers yeah want to go to sleep I don't know if it's because I waited so long for the performance and then like I just felt so defeated after. Because it wasn't even a worthy loss. If he had lost

to Miranda Lambert or Brandi Carlile, Ashley McBride, I would have been like, okay. Brandi wasn't nominated. Oh, she should have been. I would have been like, okay, you know what? Wasn't meant to be. But because it felt like he really was robbed, really everyone was robbed, it felt like his

performance was even more emotional for me like I literally and that song is so that's one of your favorites on the album it's so spectacular I actually found myself like getting choked up like I just love that I love this man yeah I love this man and the Grammys like didn't care about him they acknowledged him because they had to not because they wanted to and i feel like that's the recording academy in a nutshell like they'll there are people who they can't ignore and they just like have to give them like a nomination or a performance and then there are people who they just like literally industry plant like lift up and like you're like who the

fuck is this person yeah and but then it also begs the question it's like what does a grammy mean is it you know artists subjective so is it who they think is the best song because then you really can't argue with who they chose but does it include you know success does it include popularity what what and it would be helpful if they told us what the criteria i'm sure they do somewhere yeah best pop duo or group performance sam smith and Kim Petras unholy that was so clearly going to win that song is taken over and like I like pride myself on the fact like I've been a Kim Petras fan like before it was cool the way I fucking hate that song like

it really oh my god I hate it maybe I don't know why I hate that song oh my god I like it but I never listened to it is why probably I like it so when I hear it come on I hate that song oh my god I like it but I never listened to it is why probably I like it so when I hear it come on I'm like but then after they won I put it on because I was like now I'm craving it and I listened to parts that like you know I don't hear on tiktok or reels and I was like oh this is a song yeah I don't know what it is about the song that like made it go so viral but i'm happy for kim petras i just i really don't like that song yeah oh wow shocker and i don't really like that dance that goes along with it that like it's all over the dance it was he did it on stage

they did it on stage sam smith and then it's like all over tiktok it's like the coordinating dance and he's like taking little steps and he's like oh sorry they I'm sorry do you know like sort of he takes like a little step he did a TikTok dance on the Grammy stage and yes and it wasn't like you know say so yeah it wasn't a song that like and a dance that took over the world yeah I just something I just I hate that song okay you're loud yes I am best musica urbana album, Bad Bunny. Clearly. Winner.

I think a lot of people also thought it would be a Bad Bunny sweep. It was not. No, but he opened the show. Yes. And he won for his album. And he's extremely good looking. I'm sure everyone knows that. But I don't really listen to a lot of Latin music.

So I don't see his face a lot. And I was enjoying what I was seeing for sure. I said, that's a nice face. Yeah. people are saying he looks like Brody Jenner that's what bitch be with you said and I saw it that's also what Morgan Stewart said oh that's so funny actually that's a great call um best rap album Kendrick Lamar could have I think I guessed that one I also liked his speech where he was talking about like the little tables and the wine yeah he was like shading it he's like it's nice but it wasn't nice no yeah it was very he had a little table it was like informal it was so weird yeah tables were so little no and then the the table but i was also sitting charts was interesting

was sitting with who like i love the adele lizzo table was everything the combses and miranda lambert obsessed and they probably had a really good time yeah um taylor got her own table because she had like jack antonoff tree and aaron aaron desner obsessed tree tree you don't like taylor nation queen her publicist who like literally like revitalized taylor like seven years ago i didn't see jack there and he didn't want to bring his fiance he won maybe there wasn't seat at the table because the table was too small they were tiny um he won producer of the year so he was like out and about you know like doing press and stuff coming and sitting um coldplay sat with someone so random i couldn't i just remember thinking not

coldplay chris i was just thinking like that's weird wonder what they were talking about yeah it was uh it was fun to see who was sitting with you if i could be seated at any table it would be with adele and lizzo for sure oh it would be the combses and oh shit yeah wait you're right um best dance electronic music album beyonce renaissance and she was there to accept it and that made her the most awarded grammy person artist of all time um james corden was the one who gave it to her james corden made a funny joke cracked me up no it was i was cackling in my bed same and you know i'm like so hard to laugh in these situations he said i'm here to announce the winner of the electronic best dance best dance electronic album

because of course i would be i'm the perfect i'm the name on everyone's list yeah it was it was honestly funny because it's like yeah first of all if this is the one that like Beyonce was going to make history for like why James Corden why would it be like someone connected a little bit to Beyonce to like James Corden everyone's like oh but then the way Trevor Noah was bothering me so much like you know what I don't think I would mind if James Corden was doing this job I kind of miss James Corden but maybe it's kind of like you hate the one you're with kind of yeah yeah absence makes the heart grow fonder so there was actually some drama around this category the first was that um they cut to you know some of the losers one of them being diplo and diplo people believe

they're reading his lips saying they bought that i i thought he looked happy for them i i actually i i i believe that like the read lip. Like looked like. Like on point. Like they bought that. Huh. I don't believe it. That they bought it. Or that he said it. That he said that.

That that's what he said. I don't think you can buy Grammys. Which is why it's like. Still something that's so sought after. No I'm sure that there's a way that you could. Like there's definitely. You know. Back channeling.

But I don't think that like. I don't think that's what happened here. Like she was up for album of the year. Like it was. The best dance. Like period. Yeah. And he looked happy to me. I'm not to me I'm not like I'm not I'm not falling for it no you know yeah the drama falling for it the other kind of like drama controversy was like a lot of people were mad like that this was considered a dance that I could understand I was just reading

the other people who won I'm like oh they're really like Rufus DeSoul electronic and so I could understand that gripe I can too because people don't see Beyonce as a electronic dance artist but if you listen to the songs it is electronic like it's also pop no you don't see yeah it's pop I guess but this is a this is a cool way of you know getting more being the best in the category. Yeah. I thought. It's like how the Redheads is in arts. Right. In the podcast store.

And to be honest. Then we get higher. Of all the albums on there, it was the only one I really had heard of, so. Yeah. No, it makes sense why she won the category, but now I'm questioning why she was in the category. Right, right, right. Maybe they bought her way into that category.

I don't think so. Maybe that's what he was saying. But I also don't think he said that because I'm not falling for it. Okay. Don't fall for it. I'm not forcing you to fall. No, you're not. You're not.

I'm just letting you know what's going on on social media. I know. But I'm just saying like we're always wrong. No, not we. Social media is always wrong. And they always jump to the worst conclusions about people. That's fair. And Diplo is a nice man.

That's fair. And I don't think he thought he was going to beat Beyonce. Okay. Song of the year. Oh, okay. That's fair. And I don't think he thought he was going to beat Beyonce. Okay. Song of the year. Oh, okay. No, sorry. Best pop solo performance, Adele, Easy on Me. She made a sweet speech.

There were tears. And you know what? I can, even though her album like wasn't 25, her performance on Easy on Me is a wonderful pop solo performance. And you know what? When it came out, there was a seismic shift in the universe. Like people were not okay. Yeah.

The song is so gorgeous. And then there was the Easy On Me challenge. Right. So it was good. That, I didn't have questions about that. Me neither. Then Luke performed. Then I turned off the show.

It was so beautiful. Then my, the sister's chat was blowing up and you and everyone was like someone was like what and I didn't know what happened because no one said what happened guys were just like reacting to it oh song of the year Bonnie Raitt just like that so some of the other notable nominees in this category were Adele, Easy On Me, Beyonce, Break My Soul, Harry Styles as it was, Lizzo, About Damn Time, Taylor Swift, All Too Well, 10 Minute Version. Any single one of those people could have won and it would be right. It would be justified. I, of course, was rooting for Taylor Swift, All Too Well.

But if anyone else had won, I would have been like, you know what? It was the song of the year. Like I would have been able to understand it. Now, this I don't understand. I don't understand at all. know what it was the song of the year like I would have been able to understand it now this I don't understand I don't understand at all and so before I dive in I just want to say this is not a you know takedown of the song or Bonnie or her career the song is really beautiful there's like a gorgeous backstory to it you know her son passed away and gave I was an organ donor and gave his heart to someone and she ended up being able to meet the guy who got her son's heart and he was like do you want to lay your head on my

chest and like feel your son's heartbeat like it's and she was like in that moment I'm gonna write a song about this like so there's a beautiful backstory behind it it's a gorgeous song but by in in no universe was it the song of the year and this is a category that's not best song it's the song of the year meaning it's not best that's not best song it's the song of the year meaning it's not best performance like pop solo performance this category is like what was the song of the year like when we look back on this year when we see the song of the year we'll be like oh yeah i was listening to harry's house while i was you know getting out of quarantine you know what i mean like so it's not a subjective category it's not you know who did they think was

the best if it was maybe we'd be able to rationalize it a little bit more. The silence, mostly because the first lady was the one who gave it out. And she said, just like that, she didn't say the person's name. So we didn't know if she was done talking or not. And there was like a beat of silence.

And just like that, it was over for everyone else. It was confusing. She just said, she literally opened the envelope, just like that. was over for everyone else it was confusing she just said she literally opened the envelope just like that bonnie right like right it was it was done weird and so i think there was a silence because of that but also because everyone's like the fuck you know yeah no but if she had said bonnie right then it would have been like okay bonnie right one but just like that is also just like a phrase like did she just say a phrase yeah no it was it was

confusing for sure um oh my god and it was very awkward and you know bonnie's a queen like she's a pj she had literally never in a million years thought she was gonna win like yeah because she shouldn't have action because she shouldn't have you know what was her speech she she couldn't talk she was like honestly like i love to write songs and like things like it was sweet, but like be FFR, be fucking for real. Come on. Like I really wanted all too well to win. I don't know if it was necessarily the song of the year, but it was just such a feat.

You know, it was such a, it's so different. It's really not like anything else on that list. It's a 10 minute song. It is a deeply well-written and profound song. So that's why I was rooting for it. But honestly, as it was, was the song it is a deeply well written and profound song so that's why i was rooting for it but honestly as it was was the song of the year you know yeah so was which lizzo song was about to end time also to be loved it's like also one of the songs um as a person a little zoomed out it's about to end time about to end time literally was the song of the year like i

could make the argument for anyone and so we all just sat there just kind of like flabbergasted bad habit is that the one bad habits no that's ed sheeran and that is confusing no um up on my nails it's a bad habit it's very tiktoky okay then i take back what i said why that like it should have been up there no no it shouldn't have been up there no what i like that song a lot a b c d e f u i'm glad it wasn't i think that's what it should have been that would have made more sense the vitriol i feel for that song the hatred like you hate this genre that i love of like pop rock like girl talk but it's like it's not on tiktok and it's like tate mccray i love t it's like, Tate McRae. I love Tate McRae. You do? Love.

Okay. Leah, Kate, 10 Things I Hate About You. I hate that song. Mimi Webb. Love. So what's the right reason? I saw you out, it was. I don't find Tate McRae and Mimi Webb to be in the same category as A, B, C, D, E, F, U. Okay.

Like to me, that's like kitschy, silly, dumb songwriting. Okay. Fine. That's fine that's fine as long as like we could be listening to tate mccray still and of course so i just i really don't even know what to say about this song of the year because i don't want to be rude she's a nice lady yeah like the fuck no get real jackie it was so awkward like i'm so pissed i missed it i watched the whole show and that was the most interesting part and let me tell you why it was even weirder she jill biden gave away two awards this was the second one okay the first one was a new category they're introducing song for social impact you

know i think we had a story that they were introducing a category song for social impact which took us to um send it on on and on it's not too late to you know posthumously give that they can do a re-record re-apart reach your heart just one spark starts a fire

with one little action a chain reaction will never start okay let me tell you why else it was so weird do you want to finish you look like it's

busting out of you make it strong start a light and send it on send it on okay so let me tell you why it was weird tell me why it was weird because this was the second award she she did for a song of the year but then before that she did song for social impact and she explained that it was being given to you know a person who made a viral video on TikTok. I'm so sorry. I do not know his name. Um, who wrote this like beautiful original song at the peak of the Iranian protests, like for women's rights. Um, and it, you know, kind of became the anthem online of this movement, yada, yada. And, you know, instead of, you know,

presenting him the award, she said, um, well, he's in jail now, now for Song of the Year. And it was so weird because honestly, like it really highlighted this element of like out of touchiness for the Grammys in general. And then there was like this commercial they had afterwards for the Recording Academy that was like, these are like they had all these headlines. They were like fake headlines. It was like protesters and like our they had all these headlines they were like fake headlines it was like protesters and police put down their weapons and listen to music together um it was giving like pepsi commercial energy um it was like you know lawmakers you know enact laws after hearing song about women's rights like it and then then the recording academy ceo comes out he's like these aren't real headlines but they should be it was so cringe and out of

touch and then right after like it's like so this guy's fighting for his life in Iranian prison real right he's fighting for his life in Iranian prison like fighting for like things like rights like um fighting against human rights that we could never even imagine and we're over here giving him a grammy be like oh well he's in prison but in prison. But he has a Grammy, Claude. Right, no, it was so. But he has a Grammy. It was so beyond out of touch. Like, I think perhaps a great way to end it if we had to give, you know, the guy in prison an award

would be like, and here's how we can help get him out. Like, you're literally sleeping next to the president. Do something. Like, it was so, but like, I can't do anything, but I'll give him this award it was so I'm like I'm like when she said but he's been arrested I was like what I'm like are we gonna go get him like I can't do anything but like you literally can I was like this is beyond it was so and so then just to transition that like awkwardness into record

song of the year there was weirdness you know yeah and then for song of the year to go the way that it did it was just honestly it was kind of like a bad showing for Jill Biden like it was just it wasn't her night it really wasn't yeah damn it sounds like everything got interesting when I turned off the show 100% that commercial somebody tweeted it was so true it felt like you know when SNL does does those like pre-recorded fake commercials yeah it was one of those it was so moronic that's so funny also um you need to talk about a few of the performances and the new idea of bringing lay people um to a round table to advocate I'm so glad you brought that up to advocate for their favorite artists and why their favorite artists should win album

of the year because when that you know when the show was already going over 45 minutes, I'm like, well, the first people to go with fans, you know, like cut them. They didn't. And it was like three packages throughout the night because there were so many albums and so many fans. And the way I was not OK. I was like, this is fucking moronic until the end. OK, so Harry won. Did he get to meet the great grand? So they well i'm talking shit i'm invested okay i'm only invested in the grand no i was invested in the grand and i was saying like she has to meet him he's right there and she's obsessed we all had

the same experience like we all only cared about the grand um so star great grand great great grand so when they were doing album of the year Trevor Noah was the one to present it and while they were doing the nominees he was like honestly fans come up here like you deserve to be up here while we announce it Jesus so they all saying by the way wait no but look they all came up and stood behind him in a line and he said and the Grammy goes to and he opened it up and then he went over to the fan and he was like you say it and she was like to the fan and she was like you say it and she was like bereft Harry Styles and then they cut to Harry and you know what it was so dumb like the whole time leading up to it but until that moment I was like you know what this is actually mad cute like we got a good moment at the end of it

because and then Harry got on stage he gave her the biggest hug kissed her on the cheek like spoke to her for a few seconds before he made his speech so it it came full circle but the journey to get there was not okay but also only because it was the great great gran and harry like i feel like if it was just like one of the other super fans and artists i'd be like can you go to a meet and greet like yeah no get out of here no totally totally so that was something i also felt like harry styles performance was not very good and i i thought everyone would be living for it and i was just being critical but like in the first like break of and he's like on the microphone he like rocks out so hard I'm like it doesn't call for that yet like I felt like the energy was winning being put on his energy was I couldn't find it it was non-existent this man is not okay and like

all the walking I'm sure it's symbolizing something maybe you know how life can just hamster wheel hamster wheel but then it comes back you meet someone you set them free if they return his vocals his vocals were not great his energy was really lackluster I think energy was fake to me he was doing and then it made me feel like all those other times in like tiktok videos where he's like on a concert like I'm like has that all been fake no because that's the thing like I've seen so much footage of Harry on tour and he really like he gives it like he is such a performer and I've never once felt like he was tired while he was up there because like we joke like he needs a nap but you know every time he gets on stage like he does the damn thing and he has like so much energy he

doesn't stop dancing and singing and his vocals are always on point like he doesn't miss a note so to watch this performance where it felt like he had literally no energy and every time he moved he was like literally using his last three brain cells yeah but he was also like faking the energy but like that classic harry style stuff which i i didn't know it feels authentic when he does it on stage he was capable of faking it and so that kind of just like it kind of like ruined the magic ruined the magic yeah but I think like that was the first time I'd ever really felt that way and I think it like it looked visibly different than like his concert footage you know what I mean yeah I just feel like he was like not in a good mood and he was like tired and I feel like he's not okay I mean

he did a show at the forum on Monday how How was his speech? Very low energy as well. He was just like really shook. And he was like, thank you so much. He's saying to the appropriate people. He was like, you know, I just can't believe this. Things like this don't happen to people like me. And like, he's getting dragged for that. It's like things like this don't happen to people like you.

Like perfect looking, gorgeous, like talented rock star. Like voice of an angel. No, it's like, okay. Okay. I know what he's saying like he was working in a bakery in cheshire he's not like a nepo baby like he had literally no he went for a talent show he started from the bottom no and i totally get it but it's like so you know what it doesn't happen to people like him no like i don't see kelly clarkson winning grab album of the year no it's

so it's so true but like just hearing someone who looks like him say that it's like you were like literally born perfect. No, I know. But like. I get it. You don't know his struggle. No, of course not. Of course not.

And you only saw the time in the spotlight. Yeah, totally. But you didn't see the time in the dark. No. But it wasn't like an overly like emotional or energetic speech. Got it. And then other performances, the hip hop tribute. It was really incredible incredible which was so awesome

and it was so cool to see everyone like having a good time out of their seats out of their seat on their feet singing along like joji cat lizzo jay-z yeah it was a scissor okay like i might like sound really dumb the way i did not know queen latifah like was like a rapper or a singer I was shook to my the only thing that they needed was um a thing at the bottom like saying who was coming on next yes because it was very fast it was very fast and but some people like I knew but also Zach I was watching with Zach so some people that I didn't know he just like was telling me who they were but I was like the Grammy should be telling me yeah because also there was a different performance the one with Happy Chinooka.

Smokey Robinson. And they had a thing at the bottom of who it was. Happy Chinooka, yeah. I'm sorry, Smokey Robinson could be the most accomplished man on earth. And to me, he will always be Happy Chinooka. The man who didn't know what Hanukkah was. Who did a cameo wishing someone a happy Hanukkah. And he said, Happy Chinooka.

And he said, what's that? Chinooka? It's the best video ever. It's honestly precious. Like I would find it offensive if it wasn't so fucking cute. I'm obsessed. Obsessed. So I did not know Queen Latifah was a performer.

And like, I was not okay. Cause for me, like when I was young and like was introduced to Queen Latifah, she was in her like rom-com era, like Beauty Shop, Just Right, that dumb Steve Martin movie. Last Holiday. Last Holiday. Like I, like that's my familiarity with her. And so I did not know she was, rom-com era like beauty shop just right that dumb steve martin movie last holiday holiday like i like that's my familiarity with her and so i did not know she was amazing she like looked i like

know her as like more like maternal like she wears like like just like sweet like kind of like old lady dresses um but seeing her out there like with her cargo pants like i was fucking i was obsessed like i was living for it i was not okay. Then I knew this person was a rapper, but I know him as a detective in the NYPD ice tea. I don't think I've ever actually seen him perform lived for it. For me, that was the part that I love the most about the hit, like people coming out of the woodwork who we know for certain things,

but have a history of, you know, of a legacy in the rap industry. I didn't know. It was, it was really great. And I all, all around everyone was loving life.

Yeah, having a good time. Having a good time, which you love to see. The In Memoriam was so beautiful. So long. It was really long. But Kacey Musgraves. Did they just break it out differently? Or were there more people?

No, they broke it out differently. They did three songs. I feel like you should have one person sing a really long song for the whole In Memoriam. But this time they had three different performances with three different slide shows it was long but was that because there was more people no no like they were being slow everyone still gets the same amount of seconds but there was like a there was a decent amount of people who needed to be honored you know a lot of people need to be honored in a big way like loretta lynn and like take off um right people who were like you know more front facing the the Fleetwood Mac um person front-facing

than you know some uh people who are more on the back end of the music industry but Casey Musgraves performance of Coal Miner's Daughter by Loretta Lynn was first of all like one of the most beautiful things I'd ever heard in my life and we'd love to see a queen out here respecting the coal miners no now that I'm kind of like in Appalachia um you know an honorary appalachian i have a i like really that song really touched me it's it's a touching song like i was like so joy to hear it and her voice sounded like it was she didn't miss one note one enough it was perfection yeah that was great show crow kind of stunk it up not to be a bitch but i wasn't watching for her i don't know i think that's when um i don't know rice had to snack rice had to go

out um okay let's continue record of the year lizzo about dantime deserved deserved and she needed to get her one award yeah best new artist samara joy okay so obviously i had never heard of this person um but the whole category i really don't know, except for main skin. Lotto and Anita. And you know what's not main skin? It's like meniskin. I'm being dead serious. Okay, fine, because there's like a symbol.

There's an accent over. And I can say I don't know how that should be pronounced. So I have no idea who Samara Joy is, but when she won, her music started to play, and she literally sounded like Etta James. She's like jazz. Oh, gorgeous. It was gorgeous.

But I often find- Meniskin is the only one that I've heard of, but I'm not saying they should have won just because I've heard of them. No, me neither. And they came from Eurovision. I actually really thought Lotto should have won. Like I feel like people don't realize

she's literally on like every song they like, you know? I don't realize that. That's correct. New artists like always confuses me. Like they almost like, they don't get it right's correct. New artists like always confuses me. Like they almost like they don't get it right. Usually in terms of like who's going to have the most long term success. Like if you've looked back on people who have like Celine Dion, like lost best new artist, you know what I mean? Yeah.

They're kind of like always off. It's like always kind of a flop. Yeah. And then album of the year, Harry Styles, Harry's house. Like that's that was the most sense. it was the album of the year it really was Theo's here with his auntie hi Theo hi doodadoo where you been doodadoo doodadoo what did Theo think of the Grammys loved well he just loved that like the the whole family was watching together like oh my god I'm so glad everyone's witnessing this because Bruno is the most jealous.

No, they're both. Oh, they're fighting now. If someone's sitting on someone's lap, like the other has to get up there. Look, Bruno, come here. Or Theo. No, Bruno, like no one can be with Bruno's mommy other than Bruno. You come here. Bruno, you come here.

They're so jealous. They're bitter rivals, these two. No, I know. Theo kind of smells. I need to go to the bath. Okay, that'll be fun. Bath time with my boy. So that's the Grammys recap.

We could talk a little fashion if you want to. Sure. I loved what Kacey Musgraves wore, even though I was just like a little. Was it Balenciaga? Jackie, that's what. That was my, like, I couldn't even see what she was wearing because I was like, is it Balenciaga? I tried to look it up. And how could it not be?

I tried to look it up and I couldn't find. It's what Kim wore on SNL. I know. How could it not be? So what, she wore Balenciaga? That's kind of weird too. Jackie, I tried to look it up and I couldn't find it. It's what Kim wore on SNL. I know. How could it not be? So what, she wore Balenciaga? That's kind of weird too. Jackie, I tried to look it up and I couldn't find. Like, that's atrocious.

I know. Because that's a statement. I know. I thought the same thing. So I have a problem with that. Yeah. And honestly, like, Kim wore it a year and a half ago. I'm not impressed.

Yeah, like, you're like. Even if it's, you know, Falenciaga. Yeah, I didn't think there were any, like, truly remarkable. I did not like what Taylor wore. It was giving very much, like, what the advanced girl wears to prom.

Do you know? Advanced. Do you know what I mean? No, it's like Sheena's wedding dress. Yeah, I did not like it, but she's so radiant. She can't look bad, so, like, it didn't bother me. She can't look bad.

She looked really beautiful, but it wasn't anything new or exciting Adele is like the queen of the matronly dress and as someone who like tends to dress like older than I should like I get it but like she's gotta switch it up like it's so like grandma you know what else I hate I hate people who change their outfits in the middle like I understand you want to change for your performance but like pick one dress I want people to make choices not oh I like these three but I can't choose so I'm gonna like keep changing while you know there's a commercial break and nobody's even looking at me yeah it was like Cardi B did not need to change I'm sorry but she was far and away the best dressed amazing on the

red carpet and I didn't like what she wore to present and like I wanted to see that dress again agreed and like you're wearing the best dress of the night. Yeah. Stay in it. The second dress was fine it didn't bother me but the first dress was so like the way Cardi B wasn't nominated I don't think for a single thing and she stole the show in that dress. She was the best dressed. Agreed. She looked so gorgeous and like really the dress like so complimented her body in the best way. She just looked gorgeous. I just like people should choose a dress and stay in it. Yeah.

Aside from their performance, if you want to, you know, put on your cat suit. Yeah. But then get back in your dress. Liza wore this like big dumb jacket. But the dress underneath was so cute. And I almost wish she like literally just wore this dress. It was like this orange corseted bedazzled dress. And then like this big dumb big bird thing on top. It was a mini dress?

No, it was all the way. It was a gown. Let me look. Because I saw like the whole ensemble on the carpet but I didn't see her speech so I didn't see um. She didn't wear. Oh what'd she wear something else? I don't know actually what did she wear? She yeah she wore something else. Oh yeah she turned into this silver thing. Horrible. It was a lot of dress but the orange. This dress is horrible. Yeah. The orange thing okay on the carpet. The big the jacket but the thing underneath was like actually very beautiful i see the thing underneath and i think if we had seen it on its own we would have liked it it wasn't like an amazing night for fashion if i'm being honest no

no beyonce i liked her outfit i don't remember it was like gold like it was like gold top yeah yeah silver i guess like everyone's saying silver. Yeah. That's what they're saying. That's what they're saying. I don't know if I'm listening. No. But you know me.

I could be a follower if need be. No, I'm going to follow Cardi B. I thought JLo looked amazing. Me too. I don't think she walked the carpet because I didn't even know she was there until she just walked out as a presenter in this bedazzled look. It was like a caftan. It was gorgeous.

And with the hair. The hair was sick. The hair was really something. That hair is going to become like a kaftan it was gorgeous and with the hair the hair hair was really something i that hair is going to become like a go-to celeb inspo pick like for people bring to their dresser hairdressers for their wedding it was really gorgeous really gorgeous oh kelsey ballerini looked really good but i didn't see her aside from in this yahoo i saw her on e she looked radiant marin morris talk what about shania twain. We need to talk. What? About Shania Twain. We do need to talk about Shania Twain. She's not okay. No she's not okay and I would have thought she was even like less okay but then she knew every word to every song. I know. I thought that was funny. I love

that for her but what was with the wig? The wig. And I'm glad she presented because I feel like other celebrities would have been like not knowing who she was yeah floor and they're like okay clown yeah no totally the hair was so nuts but then on the carpet the big dumb hat was even more dumb I don't know like I'm all for you know being playful especially like I feel like when you get older they're like that's kind of discouraged like I'm really I'm all for being playful but I wouldn't want to see a young person in that big the hat was more for me like really upsetting it's really upsetting doja cat i don't love her red carpet look but i remember seeing her in the program i thought she looked amazing she's really kind of like such a she's such an it girl yeah um marin morris horrible oh really

horrible i like it she bleached her brows which you know if i didn't have naturally bleached brows i would think was so ugly but because like you were am I gonna self-hate yeah like I love it I like it too Camila Cabello cute what was she doing there not winning anything or being was she even nominated once yeah she had like front row seat in the middle like that didn't make sense to me how like Coldplay Chris Martin was like all the way in the back Luke Holmes Miranda Lambert and Camila Cabello who I think like was nominated for one category for like duo with her song with um I still love in a sea yeah that's just life baby um with Ed Sheeran like she gets front top billing front row center she had the best seat better than Taylor she had the best seat because they knew she'd be in her seat the whole time. Savage.

You know, like they don't have to worry about when she goes to perform, a seat filler in the front. Or a win. Or a win. Oh, and then the last thing that made my heart warm was Dwayne Johnson, who started talking and I was like, whatever he sang, oh, about how he got a guitar from Willie Nelson. I was like, we don't care. And we're mad at Willie Nelson.

And then he said, you're welcome. Oh, he did. He said. He was talking about how he sings off key i said again we don't care and then he said you're welcome oh my god i was freaking and everyone in the audience who like has kids was not okay yeah it was kind of it was kind of a moment it was a moment i forgot that he's maui and he sings like he's on one of the most fire albums of the century oh yeah i can most soon have a semi phenomenon this is a natural phenomenon yeah what can i say except you're welcome bruno was finally sitting on the third chair in the studio like which is my solo chair and it's like why haven't the boys thought about this sooner because they want a piece of us they do they're obsessed um before we continue on i

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It's confusing. It is, especially when you're being dumb like me. Okay. Our first, I'm sorry, our second story, second and third, are some new couple news. Okay. That are interesting because our list, things are moving around on our list. Aza Gonzalez. Yes. Is seen on a date with Ben Simmons, who is Kendall Jenner's ex, but not like the ex.

Not the most recent serious ex. It's not a big deal, like in terms of Kendall. Yeah, it's just like a fun fact that he dated Kendall, but like- Like that's why we know his name, not because he's like LeBron James, you know? Yeah, that's why we know his name, but like people who know basketball yeah do know his name

um a source exclusively tells page six that the brooklyn net star oh i guess he's a brooklyn player now he used to play in philly has been dating the actress aza gonzalez for quote a few months but the pair has been trying to keep their romance a secret they've been hiding and trying not to get seen together however on friday the new couple was forced to go public when paparazzi spotted them out on a date night in New York City. They were photographed leaving Bond Street, a high-end sushi restaurant in Manhattan, where-

Such good crispy rice. Were told they dined with a group of friends. They weren't alone for the dinner, but they are very clearly together, the insider said. So a few things, like she looks- She is. Gorgeous. And this is how you know they're dating,

because that's what you wear on a date. Yeah, like looking sexy, black dress. Not Selena Gomez at the bowling alley so true I have to say Issa Gonzalez is not dumb like no I feel like she's really done like an amazing job she's super talented and she gets booked on great roles but there's so much more to like becoming an A-list celebrity actress right than just the roles that you book and she like plays the game hard like she had that Josh Duhamel moment I mean we she popped on the scene the Liam Hemsworth of it all like she really like does well romantically and I think she has a lot of fun while doing it and this is another great get for her um she does need like a breakout role I think that's the one thing

she hasn't had yet there's a lot of speculation I think literally that you started that she might be playing um it evelyn thank you no there's not speculation it's me saying asa gonzalez needs to play evelyn but it's all over tiktok too people when they like their dream cast she is like one of the top that actually like hurts our chances because that never happens yeah no it's true but she needs like i feel like she's had really good momentum i feel like for a while people have been saying like she's the next big thing but like it has to happen yeah I agree with all of what you said um it also helps that she's absolutely gorgeous she's next level it helps like you know oh across the board she's so nice we hung out with her remember at the Super Bowl she's a lovely girl she is and she has great style look at I just can't get over this picture of her and she gets

booked on like really good a-list roles I feel like she's always in like oscar movies and stuff but she's never like this the breakout sensation from it and she needs that i think she's over on this trajectory she's always at the oscars she's adjacent yeah okay she needs a moment we she does and evelyn hugo like could be that moment yeah um i'm glad she's finding love but this does mean that her and jason momoa are no longer canoodling because they were rumored on and off they were on a motorcycle they were in london at the same time going into the same restaurant and i guess she's moved on or maybe this is her like you know he didn't want to get serious with her so she's gonna go like be out a town with some like hot new york basketball player and just to make him jealous and then he's gonna be like you

know what i really fumbled i fucked up he's gonna say a's i messed up come back he's gonna say i'm sorry he's gonna say come back to me mama and she's gonna say i'm sorry jason it's real with ben what we have is real but it's not it's all just so like she's playing the long hand she's so smart she's so smart i love her totally are you ready for our next story which is also some new celeb news and it's just like people person from here person from there okay ashley benson oh is dating throwback brandon davis oil air who dated everyone 10 years ago okay like not to be so annoying i literally i just saw these two together i was with them and i didn't know he was like of no person because everyone was like do you see them like they're dating I'm like who like I literally didn't care so like I could have

spilled this tea already you know what's crazy I think if you came home and told me like oh Ashley Benson is with Brandon Davis I wouldn't have cared but seeing it like this I care like I just saw them at a party they were clearly a couple and like it meant nothing to me who is this man so he like dated Paris Hilton back in the day and he was like a big part of the drama with like Lindsay Lohan and he was like one of those like oil heirs who was just dating all the girls okay in 2006 I don't remember like we haven't heard from him since and now he's dating Ashley Benson he's 43 just to give you like a taste of like when we were right right like 10-15 years ago yeah maybe more now yeah and so Ashley Benson's so random to me random right so random yeah like okay when you think of the pretty little liars

girls like who do you think has done this I love this conversation it's been six months so we could have it again so when I think of like the biggest success I think of Shay Mitchell do you agree yes then I think of Lucy Hale yes then I think of I don't know it's a tie for last yeah Trian like she's was at the royal wedding like she doesn't have a career she doesn't try to like keep acting she doesn't have a career but she has a life yeah you know a happy life yeah and she does like a lot of activism like she does a lot of like eating disorder stuff and she has a she have a baby yeah I don't and she married what's his name from suits and she went to the royal wedding I think she's like a deeply happy fulfilled person yes so I would put her third maybe even second like Lucy the thing about Lucy Hale is like it's not for lack of trying like Lucy Hale tries

out for everything she like gets all these tv shows she probably has like a few movies a year that come out and flop except that one that came out um that was based on a book the hating game or something loved i watch everything she's in i love her she's like one of my favorite yeah but you happen to like love flops that's so true you're literally floppy oh it's so true what is that do they flop because i love them or do i love them because they flop i think you love them because they flop you're like an empath you because they flop. You're like an empath, you know? It's just like, why does everything I love flop? Maybe honestly, like not to be mean at all. Maybe I'm a curse.

Maybe you have bad taste. No, you know what? I don't think so. You want to know how I know? Because of like triangle of sadness. Like if that's what doesn't flop and that's what's critically acclaimed, then I am just like an outlier of the culture

and I'm okay with that. You definitely are an outlier of the culture, by'm okay you definitely are an outlier of the culture by the way okay with that and I'm proud and I'm proud you know Lucy Hill will never be in triangle of sadness no much to her dismay but like that work that's why she's for me back to the ranking I think like we might have to put her lower because it's not for lack of trying like trying but like Lucy Hill acts more than Troy and but Troy doesn't even try no but like Lucy how would you follow her on Instagram like she has brand deals she's so like brand safe and she's always you know on a red carpet here she's like the face of avon she's you know at going to

fashion week and she's always dressed by the brand like she really is a celebrity who has like all of the celebrity things happening endorsements yeah by the way i get told all the time that i look so much like troy and bella sario i do you do but not in the same way that I look so much like Troy and Bella Saria. I do. You do, but not in the same way that you look like Victoria Fuller, like Victoria Fuller and Troy and Bella Saria. Don't look alike, but you look like both of them. I just want to say not to be so toxic. Like as long as I'm being compared to skinny brunettes, like I'm okay. Oh yeah. Cause like, I don't want to get you started on. Yeah, no. I have a lot of, I have a lot of thoughts on like celebrity doppelgangers slash comparisons. If you saw my show, Not Like Other Girls, my stand up.

I know how she thinks. You know, and if you didn't see it, my special will be coming out soon. So you'll be able to see it. Anyways, Ashley Benson and Brandon aren't trying to keep their love under wraps. They've been spotted together numerous times over the past couple of weeks. Claudia apparently saw them. I did. So she can confirm.

And they were on a double date recently with Emma Roberts and her new mans, Cody John. Cute, cute. I'd love to see hollywood going out for double dates i feel like we don't see double dates a lot no but like we should i feel like everyone has everyone over to their house yeah and we're never getting like insight it's so wrong so wrong um happy for them hope this works out i have a feeling it won't not to be negative yeah that's literally today's title i keep saying mean things something not to be negative but sometimes it happens no but sometimes you gotta be negative i feel like negativity that kind of gets a bad rap you know sometimes it's necessary and sometimes it's funny yeah and sometimes i think positivity can be like really toxic i completely agree bony baloney i completely agree most positive people are like

so fucking annoying. No, and like they're not. They're the darkest, meanest people you've ever met. They suffer. They suffer and they'll make you suffer for their positivity. Phony. Agreed. Are you ready for our next story?

It's not for the final, is it? No. Okay. It's fourth and penultimate. And this is. And I love when you whip out your SAT words. This is a really a penultimate story because it's like, it's a big one. Okay.

Before we come down and we bring you back with the fifth. Armie Hammer is speaking out two years after he was accused of sexually and emotionally abusing multiple women. He has given a new interview. With who? With the digital newsletter Air Mail. I just want to say, I'm glad like he obviously wasn't able to get a legitimate outlet to sponsor his comeback tour because I feel

like okay I want to end my sentence there sorry I don't want to continue. I'm glad he couldn't get like you know Variety. Yeah but though Variety is the publication that's written up his interview in Air Mail. That's a fun. That's where we got our air mail. Air mail. It sounds like I'm like a newsletter for frequent travelers. Yeah,

no, you get it. Like when you're in the sky. Yeah. Anyways, he's actually saying some serious stuff. He says that he was sexually abused by a youth pastor at the age of 13, and he contemplated suicide after the rape allegations that torpedoed his life. He says two years after he faced a series of sexual abuse allegations

that ended his career as a movie star, Armie Hammer is attempting to tell his side of the story. In a new interview, he reveals that he contemplated suicide after his downfall. His downfall? Sometimes that Long Island accent comes up on you. What is that is downfall sometimes that long island accent comes up on you what is that downfall go dogs i hope the dogs have a downfall and claims okay this isn't funny okay but like i didn't mean to say that it was funny like you can acknowledge the vlog back to the seriousness he claims he was sexually abused by a youth pastor at the age of 13.

He denies all criminal wrongdoing, but admits to being emotionally abusive towards former partners he had met on the internet. Sure. The actor, who was accused of having cannibalistic fetishes, now says that his interest in BDSM originates from being sexually abused by his youth pastor when he was 13 years old. He said, quote, what that did for me was it introduced sexuality into my life in a way that it was completely out of my control. I was powerless in the situation. I had no agency in the situation. Sexuality was introduced to me in a scary way where I had no control. My interest then went to I want to have control in the situation sexually.

He spoke with a digital newsletter, Air Mail, and told his side of the story for the first time. Air Mail reported that Hammer told two people about his childhood abuse and the publication states that it did corroborate his account with his godmother. I have two things to say. So he talks a little bit just about some of the accusations and how his life was unraveling and he contemplated suicide. He said, quote, I just walked out into the ocean and swam out as far as I could and hope that either I drowned or was hit by a boat or eaten by a shark then I realized that my kids were still on shore and that I couldn't do that to my kids he talks a bit about the relationships with accusers Courtney Vukovic and Paige Lorenz and he acknowledged that the power dynamics were off admitting one million percent that he was emotionally abusive towards both women.

He said, quote, I would have these younger women in their mid-20s and I'm in my 30s. I was a successful actor at the time. They could have been happy to just be with me and would have said yes to things that maybe they wouldn't have said yes to on their own. That's an imbalance of power in this situation.

He's like so intentionally taking responsibility for like none of the illegal things. I mean, he's not going to go on. There's an investigation into him. He's not going to go on and admit like criminal wrongdoing. So he shouldn't be doing interviews. I'm just saying, first of all, like being a victim of abuse is horrible,

but it is not an excuse. No, it's not an excuse. But this is true that this is what happens in people who are abused as children, like, you know grow up and a lot of times like become abusers themselves I understand really it's messed up and it's really sad and and that doesn't mean that that abuser shouldn't be held accountable because like there's someone else who's suffering and it's a cycle it's a vicious cycle but like

there's an origin I know but you know someone like Armie Hammer who has like enormous wealth and privilege like it is on you to break the cycle. Like it is on you to get help. You have access to all these things that most people don't have access to. Like, I don't know. I just, it's not an excuse. So to, to admit that you're a victim of abuse, to kind of give context as to why you were abusive, but then only take responsibility for your emotional abuse, which is obviously bad, but it's not as worse as physical or sexual abuse like this is like such a cop-out to me yeah yes I mean I think he's admitting to as much as he could admit to for me like you know there's there's not really a coming back from

this so it's I think it it definitely gives context to the story to know like what his experience was I don't really care honestly but um yeah that's just okay so so that's why you did what you did but you still did what you did he said quote I'm here to own my mistakes take accountability for the fact that I was an asshole that I was selfish that I used people to make me feel better when I was done and moved on I'm now a healthier happier more balanced person I'm able to be there for my kids and in a way I never was I'm truly grateful for my life and my recovery and everything I would not go back and undo everything that's happened to me okay bye go like like I don't know what he thinks like this is gonna start like some sort of

comeback no one's interested like go back bye yeah but I'm glad that he's getting the help that he so desperately needs because like even though he's you know on the fringe of society he could still be harming people wherever he is so I guess yeah I personally don't care it's on him like what he does himself yeah but it was always on him to fix himself so now that you got dragged you're like oh oh I need to heal but like you needed to heal always and it's it's on all of us like whatever your trauma is like it's on you to heal that trauma yeah so that you don't pass it on to others whether it's abuse or whatever it is and that's why it's so also important to stop pedophilia in its tracks because it is something that is a cycle right so yeah that shit needs to

stop but it's like not going anywhere it's like bigger no no people don't care yeah but then oh okay fifth and final story a little lighter fair is it a little lighter fair that's brought to you by DraftKings Sportsbook oh my god look at us because we're the premier sports show so of course DraftKings came to us whether you're a football fanatic or you're just tuning in for the Super Bowl 57 action DraftKings Sportsbook is an official sports betting partner of Super Bowl 57 and is the place to bet. New customers can bet just $5 and get 200 in bonus bets instantly. Plus, all customers can get in on the Super Bowl 57 excitement with DraftKings Happy Hour

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and we take all reports seriously. In this situation, production immediately launched a comprehensive review and is taking appropriate action. People was the first to report about Brandy and Caroline's departures, which according to insiders occurred after Brandy took things too far with Caroline during a party, kissing her multiple times throughout the evening without her consent. It was unwanted, a source said at the time, and Caroline's distress over the matter did not seem to stop Brandy.

Things escalated and physical boundaries allegedly were crossed that Caroline felt were serious and uncomfortable. Following the incident, a decision was made by production to report what happened to higher ups. Filming continued that night and into the next morning when Brandy was made aware of Caroline's feelings and apologized via text message. Still, the decision was made that afternoon unbeknownst to Caroline to remove Brandy from the trip early. Brandy's behavior was inappropriate, a third source said, so she was asked to leave. Later that night, Caroline decided she didn't want to film anymore and chose to exit the show on her own.

She needed to process this outside of the reality TV environment, the first insider said. I'm just like shocked that the rumors about what went down were actually true. I feel like we're always getting like fraudulent information when it comes to Housewives. Yeah, this is really crazy. I'm shocked that Caroline left because they protected her. They protected her. They took her side. And Brandy needs to leave.

It makes me wonder if Brandy, like, was being inappropriate, crossing boundaries, and Caroline reacted and then wanted to remove herself from the situation. Yeah. You know? Because, like, honestly, and Brandy, like, is... Wild.

Wild, sloppy mess. Like, if someone were all, they're trying to kiss me like that and, like, just, I can imagine the way that she can be sometimes. Like, I think I might get physical. physical yeah if my physical boundaries are being crossed like I could see myself throwing a hand yeah yeah I could no I mean it's so out of control you know Brandi Glanville's like such a loose cannon and that's why everyone loves her but she's always

really really close she always takes it too far to crossing a line no no she always crosses the line no she's like a wine glass. When she slapped Lisa Vanderbilt. She always crosses the line. Yeah. She doesn't know. But this feels different than both. Like this is so. Yeah, especially because. This is a sexual assault. Her and Caroline must have met like two days before. And my God, did she choose the wrong bitch?

Like Caroline Manzo would never. Literally. Like some of the women, like I feel like on OC they always used to make out. Like some of the women are down, like whatever, to get freaky. But she chose the wrong bitch. Like Caroline Manzo not only is so not like that, she'll kill you. Like what are you doing? Yeah.

It was a really dumb decision. And I feel like Brandi's just using these UGT opportunities to make herself known again. And maybe like one day get back on Beverly Hills. And I think a lot of people want that for her. And they loved her in the Berkshires. and she's just setting herself back with shit like this she's such a liability and she's really and I love her but she's like shit like this really just reminds us like of how tacky she is and this would never like this just is not the Beverly Hills vibe those women will not be filming with her no with behavior like this like it's just it's

disastrous yeah um also reminds me of that cameo of hers that went viral yeah we ever talk about it like eating vagina or something no no she was making a video for someone who was getting married and i don't know if she was drunk i mean i hope she was because she was just like don't do it like marriage is the worst like it was it started as like you know you're getting married why like it got so dark so quickly it was insane yeah no that's so brandy it was insane she's not okay yeah um but you know what i'm glad that bravo handled it in a way like i feel like bra Bravo sometimes lets like really fucked up things just like they chalk it up to like oh ladies being ladies and it's like actually

you know what that person did or said is like actually extremely not okay and I could see them like literally letting this go because they're so like they'll address it on the show right they just like allow such poor behavior and they almost encourage it yeah well it's a double-edged sword because like that's what makes the show go around but like there is a line yeah no this is definitely crosses the line and i'm glad that they saw it because i could see them just like ignoring it yeah or just letting the show play out you know brandy they made brandy leave and then like caroline left and they would just put that on the show but you know what actually the fact that they put out a statement makes it much more enticing to me as opposed to just like rumors. Yeah. So I can't say I'm going to be watching this,

but, um, but there's still another season first. If there is, um, like a video of, you know, the incident of the incident when the episode airs,

I think I would watch that. Yeah. I mean, just keep in mind, we're talking about UGT Morocco, UGT Thailand still has to come out. That I can tell you. I won't be watching.

No, it's like they, we know so much about it when it's happening because like the fans are obsessed and there's so much that comes out about the women in the airport I think the women like who are really want to make it a thing like they I think they share with fan accounts like what's happening yeah for sure like they're leaking stuff so it's like we get so invested as it's happening and it doesn't come out for so long like we're still waiting for number three yeah that's crazy it's crazy it's so dumb um so it's with the past five feels though you needed to know it was kind of like the fast

like four and like one big one you know yeah yeah slow one the four were fast yeah the one was slow was long um and that is our show hope this monday you know carried you through to lunchtime that's really all you can ask from the toast for us and now we have to ask ourselves the hard question of what's for lunch. It's so hard to figure out lunch here like when we're together. Like we're always on different levels. We had that idea for the wrap. We did have that idea for the wrap. And I think we have the card

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