The Toast - One Rogue Incestuous Producer: Tuesday, February 13th, 2024

Episode Date: February 13, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good morning, Millennials, and welcome back to The Toast. Happy Tuesday. I'm so honored that you've chosen to spend your day with us. Yes. Happy Tuesday, everyone. Welcome back to the Jackson-Claude IRL. Whenever I'm here, the days aren't days. Do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:00:17 I don't feel like at the beginning of every show, we need to have that conversation. I don't know if it's just the Florida lifestyle or the fact that I'm not home. Yeah, but for those who are listening, they need to be reminded of the day. The significance of the day. And they're still experiencing the Tuesday. Right so I think it would be a little selfish if we just willy-nilly the days of the week which people have come to depend on us to know what day it is. And selfishness is not something like anybody would ever use to
Starting point is 00:00:41 describe me. It's not in the DNA of this show. No, and it's not an attribute I currently hold. No. No. Is the selfishness in the room with us? Perfect execution. Thank you so much. And to answer your question, no. The selfishness is not in the room with us.
Starting point is 00:00:58 But what is in the room with us is us. I'm so glad you brought that up. I really am. I thought you were going to say what's in the room with us is our new lights. Our new lights. If you're watching on YouTube. We'll know immediately like when the video is done and it's up like if this was a slay.
Starting point is 00:01:12 Yeah, I bought some new, we bought some new lights. We went to this fabulous store yesterday. Who drove? Jackie drove us in her Tesla. And there was a lot of driving. There was, the camera and lighting store was about 20 minutes away. Like it wasn't just a hop, skip and a jump. It was no highways, but it was a journey. It was a journey, but we found what we were looking for. We did. And I just don't know if I set them up correctly.
Starting point is 00:01:33 You know, I am the IT department of the toast, but I'm extremely limited in my knowledge and my experience. And I just kind of make it up as I go. And today was one of those experiences where I realized, like, I know nothing about lighting. it might need a little rejiggering throughout the week I also feel like would it kill us to just like buy the lighting expert like come here and help us no it wouldn't like if you don't be afraid to ask for help yeah like but what's a lighting expert but it's a thing like the guy from the store was a lighting expert yeah but he didn't know what like we were really working and he didn't seem like he does like freelance lighting consultations no he owned the store like he was really busy yeah whatever nonetheless all that to say youtube but we bought a new tripod
Starting point is 00:02:11 and some new lights so as as always when i come down here every episode will look a little different because i can't stop futzing with things yeah and so every day it'll be a new angle a new you know shadow it'll be a new something just bear with us like I this is how I express my like creative side I'm really just kind of an entrepreneur and a creative when it comes to production would you say you're a creative no no I wouldn't I'm like I'm like literally wearing your pants like I'm like the least okay I was gonna say like original I'm not like an original that's not the question okay question you know like a creative someone say like original. I'm not like an original. That's not the question. Okay. The question, you know, like a creative, someone who's creating. No, I'm not.
Starting point is 00:02:48 I don't think I am either. I'm very right brain. Yeah, and I don't think that like creatives watch as much TV as I do. Do you know what I mean? They're busy creating? Right, and like, you know, sketching. On their iPad, like getting, or one of those like tablet things. Yeah, and I've never had a, what is that thing called?
Starting point is 00:03:08 Stylus? Oh my God, literally, how did you know that that's what I was thinking of because you went like that yeah I thought you were gonna say a wand I yeah I've never had a stylist for not for clothing clearly stylist stylist like one of those pens therefore I am not a creative right and I don't think you can truly consider yourself like a creative slash art director type of person creative director if you don't own or have never owned a stylist i think that's fair and i don't make the rules that's just like the rule the rule i didn't make it but you're enforcing it no no i'm just sharing it inevitable question mark um that was jackie quoting my award- winning comedy special that you can watch on Prime Video.
Starting point is 00:03:47 It's called Lean In. I have a couple favorite quotes, even though I haven't even like. Jackie doesn't even, Jackie does not support women in comedy. I haven't watched the whole thing because I was watching it and you were mad at me for watching it in front of you.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Okay, Jackie, like the day my special came out, was like, oh, let me watch it. I'm like, oh, okay, cool. Can you go into the other room? No, I'll sit my ass right in the living room and watch it on loud in front of all the kids. Like, mortifying. I just watched the Barbie movie.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Like, I'm going to be a few minutes, a few months late. Yeah, you don't have the bandwidth right now. I don't have the bandwidth right now. I am catching up on Southern Charm, though, in my free time and reading Josh Peck's book. Ever since I stopped pumping, I have the time to do one of those. She's unstoppable. I can do one of those two things.
Starting point is 00:04:24 I'm so glad you're reading Josh Peck's book. I talk about Josh Peck's book like I wrote it time to do one of those. She's unstoppable. I can do one of those two things. I'm so glad you're reading Josh Peck's book. I talk about Josh Peck's book like I wrote it. You do. So that's why I was like, I'm just going to read the damn book. Let me tell you why. And you get a lot of your insights about child stars and addiction from the book.
Starting point is 00:04:37 And I like insights. It is my reference point for a lot of like addiction-based commentary that I make. And him and Jeanette McCurdy's book is really how I know so much about child acting. That's very true. I also just think it's the perfect memoir, like from someone who came out on the other side, who's been through a lot, but who's also like a part of our childhood and who
Starting point is 00:04:54 gives you really good insights. And like, he's very transparent about the money, which I really appreciate. That was one of my favorite parts of the book, like how little money you make as a child actor. So it's so good. But does your love for the book sort of conflict with your- Hatred of the good guys? Hatred of the good guys.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Oh my God. So Ben, you know, non-supportive king, never listens to the show. And of course, like the toasters were DMing him about like our one-sided imaginary beef with the good guys. And he was like, what is like, what is this about? And I was explaining to him like, oh, it's just like funny. And honestly, like at the end of the day, like we're using our platform to promote your podcast.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Like it's all good. Ben was like offended. I'm like, okay, grow up. Like it's just like funny and honestly like at the end of the day like we're using our platform to promote your podcast like it's all good ben was like offended i'm like okay grow up like it's a joke snowflake yeah literally it's giving a sensitive alert i'm like oh really you're gonna do that okay i'll stop i'll stop talking about your podcast oh someone can't even clown on good guys anymore no we can't no once i said like i'll stop talking about your podcast he was like no it's fine yeah keep talking about it i had taryn dubrow on this week Ben was in one thing about Ben is like he's familiar with the Bravo universe and and the ancillary characters but for years he has had this like real interest in Terry Dubrow mostly because he thinks he looks like this guy we know but also because Ben is just like obsessed with him he's
Starting point is 00:06:00 like a Jewish Dr. King and I think Ben was like actually starstruck because Terry was in New York usually Ben will go to LA for the guest episodes or he'll just be like the remote loser co-host who no one listens to but Terry was in New York and Josh was kind of like the loser co-host who no one was listening to for a change and Ben was definitely that got home and he was very like giddy he's like he's just so impressive like and Terry's business is really impressive like of course the doctor thing but then botch and they have all these skincare lines. And Ben was just really kind of taken with Terry. That's what a good podcast guest should leave you with. Yeah, you should leave every good interview being obsessed with that person. Yeah, that's classic podcast interviews. Whenever I listen to other people's episodes, that's literally what it is. People becoming best
Starting point is 00:06:41 friends and me watching them. You know, it's like such a thrill. Yeah, but I guess that's a sign of a good one a good guest you really should get along no and you know like when two people aren't vibing and like they don't promote each other's episodes like it was just not good yeah I love that speaking of fellow podcasters we started training for the 5k I forgot about that I kind of blocked it out because I flopped like I really flopped who did not flop so Jackie and I went to the gym with like the same goal I thought which was to do our first Soto stride I've actually I've done one so I was like a little bit ahead of like two so our trainer Hillary I told you guys is putting together like a plan for us and she's basing it off of what she thinks I can do so we're obviously starting slow like she's not done and so the first Soto stride we have three months she
Starting point is 00:07:22 said month one I'm gonna get you really comfortable running a mile month two two miles month three three miles and so the first Soto stride is like this 12 minute exercise where we're gonna end up running slash walking a mile and we did it and I was like so I'm like yes we did it and then I got off the treadmill and like continued on with my workout I did like a little virtual class and Jackie like stayed on the treadmill and I was like oh that's cute of her um we left the gym and she was like okay I did the 5k I'm like excuse me like you didn't even like you kind of just like like did it behind my back honestly I I wasn't my plan you you went behind my back but the first mile went really well and I when I go to the gym I like to work on the treadmill like I'm still in my cardio era like I you know I'm trying to shed so I would have been doing the treadmill anyway
Starting point is 00:08:02 and then after we did that first mile I was, let me see how long I can run for. Because you had just said you accomplished running for one song. And I was like, can I run for one song? Right, I was bragging slash lying that I did four minutes when I really did three. And then I was like, let me see how many songs I can run for. So I did one song, and then I was like, I think I can continue. I did two.
Starting point is 00:08:20 And then I was like, finishing two, I got into three. And then I was so close to almost at a mile that I was like okay my new goal is running one mile this bitch ran for 12 minutes straight I so I did a 12 minute mile crazy that was my second mile what like speed between five and 5.5 so a jog the thing is is like running a 5k on a treadmill it's so helpful like the speed numbers I don't know how we would do it IRL we could like on the street we don't know like what speed are we going no then you have to measure your output like am i exerting a level five six seven like a 10 is a sprint right a six is a jog not by the way i feel like it's different for girls boys and how tall you are like for me like
Starting point is 00:09:02 a five or six is a full-blown sprint like my legs can't keep up with me maybe that's just because i'm out of shape so what's a 10 i couldn't i would die i would fall off the treadmill at a 10 you have to personalize the chart are you talking about 10 speed no oh oh i'm talking about you know like you know a scale of one to 10 level understood understood yeah okay so my 10 would be like Breakneck sprint Yeah yeah where like you literally can't Like your legs are just going 6-7 is joggy So also to say Jackie ran a full blown 5k yesterday
Starting point is 00:09:34 Like this thing this mountain that I'm trying to climb She just like did it behind my back while I was like doing an arm exercise Then I said to Trudy like Try to go on the treadmill and see how far you can go Even if you have to walk the whole time You could do 3.1 miles. Yeah, I haven't done like the 5K to completion and I don't know if I can. I think that you can.
Starting point is 00:09:51 It just might take you a while because you might have to walk a lot. Right. So yesterday I did running and walking. I did the 5K in 42 minutes. Which I feel like if we showed up to the 5K wherever it's going to be and we like slayed in 42 minutes, I think people would be really impressed. Right. I feel like that's respectable, but I could could bring it down but we will be running side by side oh yeah we had this conversation yesterday too leave you and you could make friends without me or vice versa yeah no no no like whatever we do we do it together even though
Starting point is 00:10:17 like by the time the 5k comes I'm hoping we're like on the same level yeah because we're doing the same training like I'm really hoping um I just think you should try you should give yourself a little more credit even though I liked Hillary's plan because like slow and steady wins race and like to build up to it you'll crush the 5k by May but you should just see where you're at right now how long it would take you like gun to my head if I had to run a 5k right now what would my time be right and then you'll see how far you come by how long it takes you in May okay I like that idea tomorrow I did plan on trying like a full-blown 5K. I have a blowout right now. I couldn't do a 5K like I needed.
Starting point is 00:10:49 You have to preserve. So I'm going to go swimming today. So I'm going to have dirty hair anyway tomorrow. Oh my God. We're not recording the audio. But we are recording the video. Does the audio go in if we don't press?'s find out let's stop oh I think that it does I think that it does too but let's just check yeah yeah crisis averted you guys oh my god I
Starting point is 00:11:13 seriously would have jumped I'd like I would have you would have been allowed to kill me but you couldn't because I would have already done it myself no and if you weren't here then we couldn't redo the episode but it actually would have been fine no no that was my fault usually we have to press record on the camera and on the audio and today I don't know why I was just like not I'm clearly not feeling myself because that's not something I was anti-audio so what were you saying oh the 5k so journey has begun I feel like getting started is the hardest part and I'm really proud of us yeah I, I'm feeling really good about it. I hope that it happens. But I don't envy Bert and Tom because like how do you get land for a 5K?
Starting point is 00:11:51 The track, I don't know. Yeah, you have to like shut down streets. No, so I imagine like why they haven't told us where it is yet. It's not because it's not real. It's because like it's hard to plan. Yeah. And I feel confident.
Starting point is 00:12:03 Like I'm glad we started. I'm glad we have a lot of time. Like I don't feel rushed. I feel good. And we'll keep you updated on our progress. We definitely will. And feel free to train alongside us. Yes. I did hear rumblings amongst the community that the Toasters were thinking of running a 5k that day in solidarity with us. Oh my God. That's so cute. Whether it's on a treadmill in their neighborhood. Oh, and I did get to see Jackie's gym where you've been, you know, shredding. And it's a gorgeous facility.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Thank you. It's crazy how different gyms are like in New York and Florida because you just have like space here. You're not like climbing on top of someone on the treadmill. Yeah. It was just, it was so civilized. I enjoyed my time. I'm so glad.
Starting point is 00:12:36 Yeah. It's a peaceful. It's a peaceful place. It's a peaceful place. And it just, you know what I was giving? Gym. You know? Classic gym.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Not like Equinox. Like New York gyms are so like it has to look like a spa it's not a spa it's a terrible place it's a gym it like smells like a gym in a good way like equipment it was just giving like i don't know okay you know what it was giving no i i i can't i can't explain what it was giving other than just gym yeah that's what it was giving i think we should get into the day's tasks. The task ahead. We have some good stories.
Starting point is 00:13:09 We have some Super Bowl follow-up tings. Love. And we have a hilarious story that I can't wait to talk about Alyssa Milano, correct? Right. I requested that story. I saw it on Twitter. I was cackling.
Starting point is 00:13:17 One of my favorite tropes in media is celebrities asking their fans for money. Yeah. Like in a charitable way. Donations. Donations, yes. Yeah. Like in a charitable way. Donations. Donations, yes. Yeah. So without further ado,
Starting point is 00:13:28 here are the past five stories that you need to know. That was actually the wrong ado. It should be, it's a do. Oh my gosh. Not I-E-U. Don't be so self-critical. They're confusing. And now I say it all the time in the show.
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Starting point is 00:18:20 And well, um, um, um, um, um, um. Our first story, Superbowl celebrations, tailored and Travis hit the clubs with her parents. Yes. Taylor's with me to TikTok. She didn't. I was scrolling TikTok and you know, when like you're what, this happens to me a lot, sometimes on TikTok more and more frequently, because I've been seeing so many people like making original content about the toast. And when I first see the piece of content, I kind of disassociate. I'm like, wait, why are these people talking about me? And I'm like, wait, that's my sister. Like, you know what I mean? It's like, and then I saw this video. I'm like, wait,
Starting point is 00:18:49 this looks like Taylor Swift would have taken this video. Cause it's like, right. And then I was like, oh wait, it is. One thing about Taylor and what I think what is part of her, you know, appeal is, um, she's kind of like a grandma. She's really a millennial, like in a lot of senses. And especially every time she's made probably 10 TikToks, everyone is worse than the next. Like it's so millennial. It's too delicious. She is. It's hard to make a TikTok original content.
Starting point is 00:19:12 You're telling me. You're telling me. Yeah. So there are a lot of cute videos and stuff from the party, the You Belong With Me, which we talked about yesterday, but a new angle came out of Travis. And a new song. They also played Love Story. Yes. We had seen that yesterday oh did we they were
Starting point is 00:19:29 dancing to love story for a second yeah um and then travis was in the dj booth with the chain smokers a new angle just dropped where he sings um why can't you see are you in love with me are you in love with me are you and then he said you belong with me I love like I am still sort of wrapping my mind around the accessibility we have to these very private moments and it's coupled with the like the fact that I think Taylor cares a lot less like she's not in this like crazy private relationship but also like the NFL the nature of everything they go to is just public and they know that I'm having such a hard time wrapping my mind around it. It's, it feels like a parallel universe. It's so different. And these videos, I'm just like, I, I can't digest them. Like it's crazy. It is. I'm one curious to see like how publicly are after this. Cause now like when she was going
Starting point is 00:20:19 to a game every weekend, it's like she had no choice, but to be public. So it'll be interesting to see how much they choose to share after this. Two, like not to be, not to underestimate him, but I feel like him changing the lyric was more so like a flubbing of the lyric. Oh, wow. That's a heinous accusation. Than like, you know, putting his own spin on it intentionally. Okay. But it turned out to be cute,
Starting point is 00:20:46 but I just feel like he might have mixed it up. Okay, I'm actually glad you brought that up because there was a moment, during the week leading up to the Super Bowl, there was like so many cringey moments from reporters asking Travis like really inappropriate questions. And so many of them went viral and people were like, as they showed, shaming the journalists.
Starting point is 00:21:02 Like it was really, it was abhorrent behavior. And one of the girls, female reporters was like Travis finish the lyric karma is the and he was like guy on the chiefs yeah and she kept singing and then he like didn't answer for the next one he was like all right next question which he should have said because it was embarrassing but like maybe he didn't know it either I don't think he knew either he said guy in the chiefs because that's the time he heard the song right which by the way i think in general is better that he doesn't like sit there on easy lyrics learning all the lyrics like an easy lyric he could just be like a casual just supportive of her not such a fan um and i think for karma it's a newer song i don't know how much he listened to
Starting point is 00:21:41 midnight so i think it's fine and guy on the chiefs that's one he knows. And he probably watched that video over and over again. But I think there's a chance that he got a little confused with you along with me. But that's a hot take. Like, because everyone else was like, oh my God, it's a declaration of love. I don't think so. Yeah. No, I could definitely see that being the reality. Like, but the ends justify the means.
Starting point is 00:22:03 Like, it doesn't matter. And it was really cute. And actually, it's cuter. You know, but the ends justify the means. Like, it doesn't matter and it was really cute and actually it's cuter. You know, sometimes the best things happen. A happy accident. A happy accident. It's cuter that he changed the lyrics
Starting point is 00:22:12 to be something so sweet but I think that he thought that's what it was. I like that. Because then also, he reverts back to You Belong With Me after. Like,
Starting point is 00:22:18 oh. Right, right. No, I like that. And I don't know if he's someone who just like makes up lyrics on the fly
Starting point is 00:22:23 and changes songs. Yeah, no, no. It's so us. It is something we would do. It's something we do. No, and also like he's so drunk, obviously. Like the, you just not, the creative juices aren't flowing. Yeah, but they were.
Starting point is 00:22:36 They were. I didn't realize until Taylor posted that like unbelievably amazing TikTok that she did bring her parents. And I always forget that these two are divorced. Because they always like show up together and there's never been any like drama or anything. They just like quietly, you know, separated. Um, and it's just like an interesting fact, you know, I wonder what Taylor's like personal experience with that was. Cause she is this like hopeless romantic. Yeah. A lot of people are children of divorce, but I do find like the people I know whose parents get divorced later in life, it's like much harder for them to
Starting point is 00:23:04 experience it as opposed to being like an eight-year-old you're like excited about having you know two bedrooms yeah and she's so I feel I think she probably put so much emphasis on her parents relationship and like was looking for that and I wonder like what that and she never like wrote a song about it or anything because it's their life and she totally respects their privacy but I do wonder like what that experience was like for her like was it earth shattering it could it has the potential to be unless I could see it being earth shattering for her yeah unless the writing has been on the wall for a number you know what I mean like unless like you're like mature enough to realize like your parents are so much better off apart yeah and it was not great for a while I don't think there was like a big scandal where, you know, Andrea cheated.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Like, no, but like if, if your parents hide everything from you and then one day you wake up and you're like, we're getting divorced and you're like, what? So everything I saw was a lie. Yeah. Oh, that can be earth shattering. I get that. Right. But if they were always fighting and it's like, can you guys just get divorced? Yeah. Yeah. She's never spoken or saying about it. And I do wonder, cause she's one of those girls I feel like who would put a lot of like emphasis and um like she would want that you know yeah but Travis is also a child of divorce are they divorced yeah I think so oh I didn't know that never together wait double check because I had never heard that before but it's possible she's always like a solo wait mama Kelsey is a single independent woman we have to get her a boyfriend yeah who do we shoot by the way what about scott
Starting point is 00:24:26 right they should just do wife swap it would be like they're not married oh that is fascinating i never knew that yeah have you ever seen them together i feel like the dad is like on the outs not on the outs because he's around sometimes but like he doesn't have mama kelsey status wait i'm like really shook by this information. I feel like that's something I could have bonded over. For sure. But they should wife swap. They should wife swap because like the dads look alike and the moms look alike.
Starting point is 00:24:56 Honestly. Would that be gross? Like no. No I feel like if they did wife swap then eventually Taylor and Travis like if they broke up it would be like but they got together so that, for this purpose, so that two loves could, yeah,
Starting point is 00:25:08 prosper. And it would be beautiful. But yeah, I don't think they could, and we're, I don't think they could wife swap and Taylor and Travis also get married. It's giving like Rufus, Lily,
Starting point is 00:25:17 Dan and Serena. Yeah. Yeah. It's also giving like Sharon, Josh, kind of. Yeah. Sharon, Josh thing. Like I feel feel as a society we don't talk about enough like there's nothing wrong with it but it's beyond strange no it was a weird way to go because Sharon's dad is not Josh's dad but he was a father figure but like
Starting point is 00:25:39 why couldn't Josh have just been like an intern intern. Yeah. A clerk at the law firm. An associate. I complete. Like it was so unnecessary. It was so unnecessary. That he had a familial connection to share his dad. Yeah. And like as a kid I never noticed it.
Starting point is 00:25:56 And I remember like the first time I watched Clueless as an adult. And it clicked for me that like there was this weird familial bond. And I'm like wait. That's weird. You don't think it was like subliminally trying to get us. Promote incest? To like make incest digestible. Oh, you think it was like Hollywood's demonic side coming out?
Starting point is 00:26:12 No, I. I don't because the movie's not demonic. No, but it was so unnecessary. Like it kind of feels like a conspiracy theory. It feels intentional. What the fuck? Just trying to like warm us up to the idea. Yeah, like just slowly dip our toes in the incestual
Starting point is 00:26:27 pond yeah i think you're onto something i don't know but the rest of the movie is not i don't see any other demonic influences now we have to look at it through the demonic lens through the demonic i don't know she was like in the valley at a party wearing like you know devil red and then she gets robbed there i don't know i don't know enough about like satan i actually don't know anything about like satan i obviously know the word satan but i don't know like the religious meaning behind it yeah because people get very very offended by like satanic culture yeah demon energy we're just talking about this because of the ice spice thing right because people are saying she's demonic and And like, I really don't know anything about it, except that it's like really bad in Christianity to
Starting point is 00:27:08 like worship the devil. Yeah. And like devil, Satan, and demon are all the same? Yeah, yeah. Synonyms. It's like, you know, God, Hashem, Lord. Yeah, exactly. That's how I see it. So I don't know enough about it. But they were saying that I-Spice was throwing up demonic symbols and she was wearing an upside down cross. Cross. Which is like, satanic, I don't know anything about it. Tanny enough to comment on it. But I do know that probably in the early 2000s, the producers of Clueless were trying to put demonic energy onto the youth of America. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:27:39 I think you were the one who just brought that up. No, we I posed the question. And now I'm going to answer my question. I don't think so. I think maybe like one producer had like a little inkling for incest. A little kink. Yeah. And they were like, what if we just made it the brother?
Starting point is 00:27:53 I agree. But not, I don't think it was a top down thing. Oh, you don't think it was like a coordinated attack? Systemic, no. Like it wasn't giving Josie and the Pussycats a little bit of messaging? No, no, no, no. Where would we be without that movie? I think it was just giving like one errant incestuous man.
Starting point is 00:28:08 All it takes is one bad egg. It's always a man. Of course. No, by the way, we weren't thinking it was a female producer. Don't worry. Even the movie was made by a woman. It was made by a woman? It was.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Like there's one woman heavily associated with the movie. Who? You'll know her name if I said it. But it wasn't. It wasn't her who had the incestual idea. I don't think so me neither i think that amy hecker heckerling i've never heard of this woman no you would she does other stuff too she may be like pitch perfect that's so fast times at ridgemont high oh she sounds like a queen yeah she's a queen every time like she does something they're like and the woman from clueless you know she's kind of just like oh really i've never heard anyone say that
Starting point is 00:28:48 really yeah i feel like i feel like i always see her doing stuff she's like tied to projects i feel like you're making that up no i'm not um what was the story she's in she did your favorite movie what is my favorite movie you're making like a joke about? Okay, it's not your favorite movie, obviously. But it's a movie that you really appreciate. I don't know. What is it? Look Who's Talking.
Starting point is 00:29:15 By the way, that is my favorite movie. And Look Who's Talking 2. Not enough people talk about that movie. She did Look Who's Talking 2 also. John Travolta, Kirstie Alley, and A Talking Baby. It is the greatest movie. I need to watch that movie. Actually, maybe who's talking to also. John Travolta, Kirstie Alley, and a talking baby. It is the greatest movie. I need to watch that movie. Actually, maybe I don't.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Maybe it won't age as, like, I used to love it as a kid. Like, maybe I should just let it be. Let it be. Yeah. Let it be. Let it be. Are you ready for our next story? Is it Alyssa Milano?
Starting point is 00:29:39 No. Fuck. Just a little more Super Bowl news that's pertinent, which is that Super Bowl 2024 was the most watched telecast of all time. Okay. Reaching 123.4 million viewers. I want to ask you a question. Does every year top the year before?
Starting point is 00:29:53 Or is this considered impressive? This is impressive, but that's how it's been the last few years. Okay. Before this, the biggest telecast of all time was last year's Super Bowl game between the Chiefs and the Eagles. And then before that was the Super Bowl before it. Right. So it's just like one, it's something that just keeps topping one another.
Starting point is 00:30:17 But I also could see it eventually, you know, lowering if it didn't stay relevant. And right, right. Was this like a major growth from last year? Like from years prior, like did Taylor have an impact in that way definitely 115 million to 123 million I feel like there's 8 million Swifties I know it's so crazy when you think about it that's 123 million televisions I would argue like at least four people are watching because people have parties like yeah but you know what these rating rankings ratings are so fuck off I actually think they include like three people per household yeah so it's the largest audience ever the um it was measured paramount plus nickelodeon
Starting point is 00:30:52 univision cbs sports and nfl digital properties plus cbs in general what about like youtube tv where we watched it that would be cbs broadcast oh yeah cbs channel yeah um but a lot of people are talking about the Nickelodeon broadcast which was like they had a Super Bowl they had the Super Bowl playing but then they had like kid cartoon type of MCs explaining stuff apparently was hysterical oh my god we should have watched it and like people were saying it was like so creative and so different and they put so much thought into like the graphics and it really and people are lauding it as a huge and I think this is the first time they ever did it on Nickelodeon that's so cute we should have watched it no like we shouldn't have but that was like when they did the London game and they also had it as um a cartoon game I don't know if
Starting point is 00:31:39 you saw this so when they played in London a few months ago the I don't know what the technology is probably some AI but it was a the set looks like Toy Story like in Andy's room it was there was like a football field and the players were playing football and it was like the mirroring the real game it was mirroring the real game the toys were playing the football game I wonder like how the commercials worked on Nickelodeon was it the regular Super Bowl commercials it would be a good opportunity to do separate commercials for kids. For kids, right. For kids' products.
Starting point is 00:32:08 Right, like Biba Finn. How do we not know about that? Know about what? Like that Nickelodeon was doing that. Like I told you, I knew. When did you know? When it was on, like everyone was talking about it. No, but why didn't we know about it ahead of time?
Starting point is 00:32:18 You're like, why was that? That should have been a story. That's my, I'll take that on the chin. Yeah, yeah, it's your fault. But I will just say that it didn't get enough your desk it didn't cross my desk and that says a lot it does say a lot but that's it was really cute like people are saying like it was it was so pure and like really well done and it was like funny for the parents too yeah and you still got to watch the game it was the real game on tv yeah and for us like it was the game started at six 30. Like that's not bedtime. The kids watch the first half. So yeah, that would have been super cute. Um, glad that the ratings
Starting point is 00:32:51 are still going up. Not surprising at all. I feel like football is more relevant than ever in the culture. So that's great. And you'd love to see, you know, records being broken. I feel like everything, the numbers are always going down, especially like with award shows. Yeah. I didn't realize the Superbowl was the biggest telecast. I had like everything, the numbers are always going down, especially like with award shows. Yeah. I didn't realize the Super Bowl was the biggest telecast. I had never thought of it. If you would have asked me, what do you think is the most watched
Starting point is 00:33:11 television event of the year? And I sat through, I probably would have said the Super Bowl, but I didn't know for sure that it was. But it's like, it's by the hundreds. And like, there's not even a close second.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Yeah. I think the close second is like the games. Oh, like the leading up games. Yeah. I thought you close second is like the games. Oh, like the leading up games. Yeah. I thought you were going to say like probably like the news on election night or something. Like, I don't know. Yeah, but still that's split between a bunch of different networks.
Starting point is 00:33:37 We'll pull up that another time. Yeah, yeah. I'm not that interested. I can't lie. But I think it's like in the college sports games. I think it's sports games. I think it's sports games. You think it's sports rule? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:47 Sports is kind of like the only thing that keep a lot of people paying for cable. I would say most people. Yeah. But now they have all this like. Hulu Live Sports. By the way, I saw it on HBO Max. Red Zone. HBO Max now.
Starting point is 00:33:57 You can watch a Nick game. I was like, what? I just paid $30 for MSG Plus like a moron. Hate to see it. Hate to see it. Now our next story. Alyssa Milano has been blasted for attending a pricey Super Bowl 2024 with son
Starting point is 00:34:10 after asking for money for his baseball team. She took her son to the Super Bowl, what, a week after posting online asking for donations for his baseball team. Yes, she shared a photo of her and her son. His name is Milo from their seats at Allegiant Stadium. She said, my buddy, hashtag mother's on love. stadium she said my buddy hashtag mothers on love mother son love mothers on love yeah mother son bond super mothers on bond mothers i mean it's there's no there's no knowing what she meant it's a palindrome yeah um and then people
Starting point is 00:34:38 were quick to take to the comments this is what the gofundme was for because she had just put up a gofundme for his her son's travel baseball team of fun so that they could travel to a game or whatever. Now, this is so layered. One, I actually saw an amazing TikTok. A content creator went to the Super Bowl and asked like random people how much they paid for tickets. And it was just like, wasn't celebrities, it was just regular folk. I think the cheapest one, I saw a lady said she spent $8,500. Everyone else was $13,000, $12,000.
Starting point is 00:35:05 This article says that the cheapest tickets that were ever able to purchase were $2,000. That's insane. So just like keep that in mind. Yeah. I, and this always, I'm always going to reference when Lady Gaga did it. Her dad's restaurant, which is actually pretty popular. It's in Grand Central Station. It's like an oyster bar.
Starting point is 00:35:27 There was a fire or something. There was it was a go, was it COVID something? There was a GoFundMe made for this restaurant, which, you know, of course sounds like a nice thing. But when you realize the owners, you know, daughters, Lady Gaga, it's like, girl, I think they were trying to raise like 50 grand. Like Lady Gaga could fart 50 grand. So it was just, people were rightfully questioning it. It is a weird thing that celebrities should not do. Like when, even when they post like gofundmes for like i remember i feel like kylie just did it yeah for her makeup artist makeup artist there was megan fox yes did one nail her nail artist i think now that we're looking at them at a glance i think that it's different when it's someone you're related to versus of course a friend like i think lady gaga like help out your dad of course alissa milano and also it's like when you think about alissa
Starting point is 00:36:09 milano's son's league the people who probably play in the league are of similar ilk yeah to alissa milano like it's based on like neighborhood and stuff like it's a nice i'm sure it's a nice league no but it's like everybody has their kids baseball league that they're raising their money for and they don't ask alissa milano to contribute to it no it's so true it's it's wrong it's a nice league. No, but it's like everybody has their kid's baseball league that they're raising their money for, and they don't ask Alyssa Milano to contribute to it. No, it's so true. It's wrong. It's wrong. Those are candy bars.
Starting point is 00:36:30 Like, don't use your mom's Instagram. It's wrong. It's just unnecessary. Especially given these dark economic times. Like, read the room, Alyssa Milano. I don't know how much money Alyssa Milano does or doesn't have. Like, I don't think she can just, like, pick up the tab for the whole baseball team.
Starting point is 00:36:44 So I'm glad you brought that up. But like, don't bring it to people who have their own baseball teams to worry about. Alyssa Milano herself is like currently, is she the most booked actress on the planet? No, she has a lot of prior success. She does get booked a lot. And I do believe she has a very successful husband. OK, he's like a Hollywood agent. OK, so this is not someone who's having trouble making ends meet.
Starting point is 00:37:04 And also, you know, she's a social media queen, like always like coming for people. She should read the room like a little bit, like, you know, take the temperature, think to yourself, take a step back. How would it look me, a big Hollywood star asking my Twitter followers for money for my son's baseball team? Right. And then it's also, so you have to measure like the relation to the celebrity and also the cause. Right. It's not, you know, a hurricane rebuilding. It's your son's baseball team so they could stay at a five-star hotel. Like it's really, it is beyond out of touch. And it's hilarious that people are like, no, it's entirely possible.
Starting point is 00:37:35 I think a lot of celebrities who went to the Super Bowl spent no money. Well, so this is separate. I just, that was about the GoFundMe in general. You know. It's not right. It's not right. Yeah. But it's also like, say the team's putting together a GoFundMe. general, you know. It's not right. It's not right. Yeah, but it's also like, say the team's putting together a GoFundMe.
Starting point is 00:37:47 They're trying to get outreach. Oh, we have someone who has a big social media account. Maybe she could post it, but it's still like, why should other people pay for your kid to play baseball? It's wrong. No, they shouldn't. Wrong. It's wrong.
Starting point is 00:37:59 Also, if your kid really wants to play baseball, there are leagues that require no travel. After evaluating all of the elements. Wrong. It was a wrong to post. But as it pertains. Even though I still feel like the Megan Fox thing. It's different.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Especially once she explained it. I think it was okay. I agree. It's different. Even though it didn't really work out. I don't know how much, how successful it was. It's different. But I understand the inclination.
Starting point is 00:38:23 Every situation. It's situational. It's situational. We understand the inclination. Every situation, it's situational. It's situational. We're talking about this particular situation and it's wrong. As it pertains to the Super Bowl, I don't think these two things are like immediately in conflict with one another,
Starting point is 00:38:34 but it does just like highlight to people, like it's weird. The first thing, like let's say you wake up one day, you see Alyssa Milano posting on social media asking for money. And then later that day, you see her at the Super Bowl with her son who she was raising money for. When the Superbowl has been historic in its expenses and it's in Vegas and there's private jets and suites and tickets,
Starting point is 00:38:52 like it's weird. Yeah. It's wrong. It was already wrong. And then this just like makes it look worse. But on it, but if you dig deeper, it's like, she probably didn't pay for tickets. I think most celebrities didn't. Um, and it doesn't add or take away from the fact that the initial gofundme was just not necessary for her to post of course these two things like are just separate yeah but i could but when put together it looks kind of weird yeah but it's crazy how much the super bowl tickets were we were saying like everyone in that stadium is millionaire jackie said during it was actually a great call during the super bowl she was like it's crazy how much the Super Bowl tickets were. We were saying, like, everyone in that stadium is a millionaire. Jackie said during, it was actually a great call,
Starting point is 00:39:28 during the Super Bowl, she was like, because we were talking about, like, how expensive it was and, like, how there was, like, they had to almost close down the private airport because there were too many private planes coming in. And Jackie was like, so was everyone in that stadium, like, even at the tippity-tippity top, like, a millionaire? Like, so regular fans can't just, like, get a ticket.
Starting point is 00:39:43 And you know what? Actually, I saw Girl Boss Town actually posted about this, how a ticket and you know what actually I saw um girl boss town actually posted about this how like you know because it was in Vegas and there was that big fanatics party and the fanatics is a company for the fans right and then it's a big celebrity party and it just felt so the Super Bowl felt so like not for the fans yeah and the tickets being ten thousand dollars like if you like especially when I think about people who like from the Bay Area who like have just been waiting for this like they never get to the Super Bowl the Kansas City fans are spoiled but like people who just like love football and how
Starting point is 00:40:11 and they live pretty close to Vegas it's not a terrible flight how inaccessible it was for like the real true football fans like it really does suck and how companies like Fanatics that are built for the fans having like Tom Brady and Kim like at their parties it's like it like kind of sucks yeah it was a good point and so you're right like everyone in the stadium being like a millionaire even though I do think some people like literally spent like their savings on a ticket which is insane too um it shouldn't be like that and she was saying how it would be a really good opportunity like next Super Bowl for any company but she was talking about fanatics girl to like do a commercial or like a giveaway like really bring the real fans like bring like the og people who have been the 80 year old men who
Starting point is 00:40:48 have never seen their team in the super bowl i agree and i'm sure there were some people in the stands who want a giveaway but like how do you do a giveaway on a large scale no i don't know i want hundreds of fans yeah no but like how do you also ensure like when the tickets go up for sale that like you're getting like the people who've waited years and years and years to like see their team in the in the super bowl like that part kind of sucks i feel like each team could have you know like a pool reward you know if you've been signed up with the team you've bought like over the years they know you and you get like a pre-sale like how taylor swift would right like and you get face value tickets. Yeah. It's interesting.
Starting point is 00:41:25 That part kind of sucks. Yeah. And it's so great that everybody's kind of obsessed with football right now, yada yada. But I think of old men who've been watching the same team for 50 years, and they finally get to see their team in the Super Bowl, and going isn't even an option. Yeah. Sucks.
Starting point is 00:41:40 Yeah. It's gotten a little too... A little too big. Big. Our next story, are you ready for it? Mm-mm. And no, she's gotten a little too. A little too big. Big. Our next story, are you ready for it? And no, she's not ready. I'm so sorry, La. Take the time that you need to get ready.
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Starting point is 00:44:35 Our next story, Katy Perry is quitting American Idol after seven seasons. Wait, I didn't know that. I know. I didn't realize she was there for seven years. She made a low key announcement on Jimmy Kimmel like last night night she said this fall in september i'm going to be doing this huge music festival in brazil called rock in rio so i think this will probably be my last season for idol what does that have to do with idol and she probably couldn't it's one performance now i don't know okay objection relevance i agree okay i'm she said i mean i love idol so much it's
Starting point is 00:45:04 connecting me with the heart of america but i need to feel that pulse of my own beat. That I get. I feel like she has been resting. It's the best job for like a retired pop star. It's also, I think, the best job for a new mom. You know, you get to be in millions of homes. You don't have to tour. You make a lot of money. You have a kind of a normal schedule. Nine to five. You don't really go to the office. Leave LA. Yeah. It's actually probably been amazing for her. But, and I think she's been like laying dormant as a pop star, just kind of being in like
Starting point is 00:45:30 her happy married mom era. And maybe now like she's planning a comeback and you can't be on Idol and be like the most relevant pop star. You just can't. Like think about Lionel Richie. Luke Bryan's very much like in his sort of, he's definitely past his like crazy, you know, peak. And so I think we're.
Starting point is 00:45:47 It's kind of one or the other. Yes. Because the stability that Idol provides also keeps you too tethered. Yep. To be like the most relevant person on the planet. And no, and to be going here and there and doing your song and touring and promoting and just showing up everywhere. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:01 I think like. Because you have to show up for this thing. In the seven years that she's been on Idol, she hasn't't released an album but she's released like a few songs like harley's in hawaii yeah daisy daisy like really like three or four nothing major and she does her shoe line i think she's probably been in like her sort of like stable normal girl era but that doesn't that you pop star can't can't keep a good pop star down right so then jimmy asked like what did luke and lionel say and she said she said they'll find out tonight that's funny so end of an era it is i think it was a good run for even though she had a lot of
Starting point is 00:46:39 controversies this article like makes mention of and we've spoken about a lot of them whatever she actually had to take a hiatus at one point because fans were saying that like when she told that mom to get back on her back yeah no to stop to get off her back because she already had three kids and she was like a really young mom okay like it was a funny joke like everybody needs to calm down and i do think that idol needs a harsh critic i'm sorry the show does not work without one and so even though when we analyze the the specific insults it's like oi it's a necessary evil i agree and she wasn't even like mean at all but she was considered like the simon it wasn't going to be lionel and it certainly wasn't going to be luke but um we i have to think
Starting point is 00:47:17 about where katie perry was before she went on american idol like i think it was actually a life raft for her it was really necessary She was like a failing pop star. Like, she couldn't get arrested. Bon Appetit. Witness the album. The blonde buzz cut. Yikes. Like, she was actually in a really bad spot.
Starting point is 00:47:35 And I think American Idol was, I never would have expected her to stay as long as she did. I think she actually just ended up liking the job. But it really settled her. It got her into, you know, the homes of millions and millions of people. And I think it showed a little bit more of her quirky side she took it too far sometimes but I think it actually ended up being amazing for her you have to remember where she was before no and as a huge Katy Perry fan like at points she's been my Kelly Clarkson and where
Starting point is 00:47:59 she was before Idol like flop was not like I would not have listened to a new album from her like I was just so over her so i feel like even though i didn't even watch idol this period has been really good because now i'm excited for whatever she does next if she were to put out like new music i would happily listen i've i've come back around on like appreciating her yeah she was like it kind of in like her miley cyrus and the dead pets era before idol idol gave her the opportunity to settle down she got married while she was on an idol she had a baby while she was on Idol. She grew her hair out while she was on Idol. She definitely like it was this sort of rebirth for her. I'm sure she looks at the experience as
Starting point is 00:48:31 kind of like saving her career a little bit. Yeah. And overly positive. And you know what? You can't stay there forever if you really want to be like, you know, it's funny how the voice is so different in the sense like you can be really hot and relevant and working and releasing new music and touring while also being on the voice whereas American Idol is really like a retirement show yeah but you're right they do need like a hard ass I don't know who they're gonna replace her with and I do think that's interesting if I was a pop star I feel like it's the best job on the planet you get paid so much money okay but then just like you said you're not super relevant and buzzy okay you're not super relevant and buzzy but you're super famous because
Starting point is 00:49:04 you're in so many homes you're on every like airport television it's a different level of fame it's not hot and buzzy and you know paparazzi but it's like everlasting for sure but you wouldn't want the the buzz I think if I had been Katy Perry and had been so high and so low I would really really like appreciate respect the, the fame American Idol gives you, because it's so normal. Would you be doing it? Would you continue or would you now? I don't know. Resume career. I could see her, you know, she's her kids, maybe a little grown up now. I could see her wanting to get back out there. And as a fan, I'm ready for her to resume her career. For sure. For sure. But I do always think about how like, remember when X Factor was on and
Starting point is 00:49:41 they had Britney and Demi Lovato. I like that? By the way, two people who both hated the job. Hated. That's true, actually. Couldn't have hated it more. I think, like, if I could choose a job, like, that would be a job I would. And also, I love to, like, watch and hear people sing. Would you be the Simon? Of course.
Starting point is 00:49:55 What if they said, like, you have to be the Simon and you're going to get backlash every week. Backlash is really hard to go through. But, like, we'll stand by you because you need to be the one. Like, you're not going to be fired. You won't be fired, but like everyone will be mad at you. Cancellations. Right.
Starting point is 00:50:08 No. All week. Getting backlash. Like it's not for the faint of heart, you guys. It's really, and I feel like I'm so much better now than I was, but I'm really not like great at receiving any sort of backlash.
Starting point is 00:50:18 Like it still like kills me. I, I don't know. It's a good, it's a good question. And if we had more time, we could think about who would be the good replacement for her. Who also like needs to be tough. It's a good question. And if we had more time, we could think about who would be the good replacement for her
Starting point is 00:50:27 who also like needs to be tough. Who needs to be tough and somebody who maybe needs like a reprieve from the spotlight. Yeah. I feel like it might be, like it would never happen ever, but we're just talking Fantasyland.
Starting point is 00:50:40 You know who I think would be great at it? Who can get away with being tough and who definitely needs a break from like touring and can't really perform right now ari celine dion oh yeah because of her accent like she could say something mean yeah it's true and she can't perform because of her like and it's just a job where you just sit like yeah and she would be she would actually give very good advice yeah some people really need to be told like do not waste your time singing like it's not gonna happen for you like go make a living doing something else before it's too late you know who would also be good I don't
Starting point is 00:51:08 think she would do it though Adele oh she would be incredible but she she can't do it right now she's not right for it no she's not right for it unless they paid her 100 million dollars yeah but she likes what she's doing she likes Vegas she does she's when I went to go see her she said like people think I don't like it because I had to cancel the beginning or whatever. She's like, I love this. I get to raise my son Monday to Friday and just take a 45 minute commute to Vegas. She loves it. That's awesome. But she did also say at a recent show, I saw it made news, she's ready to do a real tour. She hates that people have to come see her and she can't go to see people. Oh, that's nice. Yeah. Are you ready for our fifth and final story?
Starting point is 00:51:43 I really, really am megan and harry quietly launched the new sussex.com website oh my god and you know what it's giving what the togo what did she have that blog called the tig the tig so they quietly launched the tig their new website sussex.com on monday the site encompasses the latest news about the couple bios for harry and megan as well as links to their archwell foundation organization and archwell productions hub okay so it's like not like no no no but there's already controversy within the website because it's very interesting what they've chosen to call themselves well it's interesting that their website is sussex.com and then if you look so it's a picture of them overlaid with the
Starting point is 00:52:22 office of prince harry and megan so that's what they want to be known as. Okay, well, that's interesting that she doesn't have a title. And then it says the Duke of Duchess in Sussex. Oh, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex. So people are mad. They use the coat of arms. What's that? Like the little emblem?
Starting point is 00:52:36 This, the... Emblem, symbol. Yeah, symbol. That's like their royal symbol. And it's like they're calling themselves the Duke and Duchess. There's no mention of the monarchy on the site. Oh, okay. Interesting. Yeah. and it's like they're calling themselves the duke and duchess there's no mention of the monarchy on the site oh okay interesting yeah i relate in the sense that like if i was megan like you bet your ass i'm still calling myself that but like is it respectful in terms of like that monarchy like
Starting point is 00:52:54 should harry know better probably but i don't know like you could not get that title out of my cold dead fingers like i'm sorry you couldn't you couldn't but you also wouldn't have like relinquished it oh yeah like that's the other thing that's where Megan and I differ like I would have just like done anything to stay being a duchess and like living in a palace um so yeah I don't know I feel this is kind of like the crux I think of a lot of people's issues with Megan and Harriet's that like they want to reap all the benefits um but they did leave and also like what is the official ruling that's what I wanted does this break a rule are they allowed to reap all the benefits, but they did leave. And also like, what is the official ruling? That's what I wanted. Does this break a rule?
Starting point is 00:53:28 Are they allowed to call themselves this? Like what is the royal decree? Yeah, I do not know. I do not know if when you abdicate your responsibilities, if you lose the titles, I don't. Who's the last person who abdicated? What was his name? Wallace, his wife.
Starting point is 00:53:41 What was his name? Edward. What did they call him when he left and he moved to paris right yes so let's see what did like when they would you know what did his website say like i feel like there's no blueprint the duke of windsor so he got demoted then hold on because they would have edward the eighth later known as the duke of windsor okay so but the thing is at one point he was king and it's like when he left,
Starting point is 00:54:08 he didn't still stay calling himself king. Like Harry's prince and he left and he stays calling himself prince. Well, he... Okay, wait, no. He left as Duke, no? No, he left as... He was king for six months.
Starting point is 00:54:19 No, I'm talking about Harry. Oh, Harry left as... Duke. Duke and prince. So him calling himself prince, I think, is fine. Him calling himself Duke, actually... But he also left as prince. He's always been a prince.
Starting point is 00:54:31 But he's always gonna be prince. Because why? Because I'm sure King Edward, before he was king, was Duke. He was a prince, too. I don't know. It's confusing. Dukey. I think it's also very colloquial.
Starting point is 00:54:46 Obviously, Prince Harry is Prince Harry. Right, we're not calling him that like as a royal highness we're calling him that because like his first name is prince what the hell is his last name like uh windsor mountain windsor right and then first name prince last name harry so also megan has chosen to become a one name wonder i'm sure she's also struggling with a little bit of a brand identity crisis because she's not marco because she's married and she would take her husband's name because she took it so what is she megan mount batten windsor sussex is also like their last name because har william and kate are the whales is excuse me it's low-key like kind of crazy like they don't have a name they don't have a name and so i they have they have a thousand names i think thousands of hours of brainstorming went into this copy i kind of love that she wants to
Starting point is 00:55:30 be megan like share yeah like that's that was a good call on her point on her part one name wonder but like the thing and they don't want to be harry and megan they want to be prince harry and megan the thing is also if he's a prince and she should be a princess. A website isn't going to change like how the people talk and the people call them Harry and Meghan and they do when they speak about her individually because she has such a fabulous name stage name Meghan Markle. She's like that is her name. Yes. It's not going to change how people talk but it's
Starting point is 00:55:55 interesting how they want to be spoken of. But I think the way people talk is like when speaking of them together they call them Harry and Meghan. When speaking of him they call him Prince Harry and when speaking of her they call her Meghan Markle. i think that's like where we've all kind of landed yeah but then on the site on the menu there's about and then there's two different things you can click prince harry the duke of sussex megan the duchess of sussex oh she's totally dropped the markle yeah but she has that markle sparkle megan hold the markle i think
Starting point is 00:56:22 markle is like a gorgeous last name like Like visually, it really does look like Sparkle. And then the, no, alliteration, Meghan Markle. It's great. No, it's very great. And then they have their bios here. It's very great. This is a long bio for Meghan. That's just for Meghan.
Starting point is 00:56:37 Let's see his. I feel like if it can't fit on one page, you've got to shrink it down. That's like a resume. His is shorter. His is shorter. That's funny. The good thing is like this really means nothing it's just interesting it's a nice looking site yeah i know who did it article made by article is the power that's what it's powered by but i'm sure they have article their company no i think article is like a square space type It looks like because it's-
Starting point is 00:57:05 Brand and digital for culture, commerce, and good. That's classic them. Totally. I'm like sport salad. It envisions the digital experience from top down. Their services build better brands holistically across strategy, design, and development. I just want to say the website is beautiful.
Starting point is 00:57:18 And if I ever need a website made, I will be reaching out to Article. Yeah, no. And they already have Megan and Harry in their promo. On their portfolio. I'm cracking up. So Article. Yeah, no. And they already have Megan and Harry in their promo. On their portfolio. I'm cracking up. So those are the past five. You really didn't need to know any of them,
Starting point is 00:57:30 but I had a good time. You know, it's not about the destination. It's about the journey. The ends justify the means. Love that. I love that. Yeah, I had a good time too. I had a marvelous time doing the toasty thing.
Starting point is 00:57:44 So that's our show. I had a marvelous time doing the toasty thing. So that's our show. I had a marvelous time doing the toast with you. Oh, I think. No, I had a marvelous time ruining everything. I don't know why it's. I had a marvelous time doing the toast. The thing. Fine.
Starting point is 00:57:58 Yeah. I'll accept it. It's fine. So that's our show, you guys. Thank you so much. Sustained. Objection? Sustained.
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