The Toast - Original Recipe: Monday, June 16th, 2025

Episode Date: June 16, 2025

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Good morning, girlies, it's the Toast. It's Jackson Claude and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show, the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly, it's the Toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to the toast. Happy Monday, you guys. Today is a Monday, but it's a celebracion

because we've got Claudia Oshrey, Coachess Wojcic, Turdi Lu on the toast. Welcome back, Coacha. And let me tell you, it was hard to get a slot. Like I was like, I could come back for a day or two. And she was like, no, actually you can't. Thankfully, I don't know who it was supposed to be today, but like Shannon getting sick, like rejiggered last week.

And so they made time for me on my own platform. How generous. Yes, it all works out. We're so excited that you're here. I know people are gonna be overjoyed. Everyone has missed you so much though. We're supporting you and we're not rushing you back to work and we support new mamas, but we have missed you.

How are you? You know what? I'm doing really good. The last time I came to podcast, which I did my birth story on Patreon, you guys should check that out if you have any questions about like my journey with the C-section, Breach Baby. I was feeling like, you know, it was so soon,

like, oh my God, I walked here and I was like, oh my God. Like it was like a big scary world. I went to New York once in 1981 and I just did not feel safe. Today, I was like, okay, let's get this bitch back to work. I feel like it's doable. And maybe today just everything worked out, but baby is fed.

I don't even feel guilty. People think I feel guilty going back to work. I'm like, no, bitch, I'm ready. Everybody wants to hear from me. It's kind of all the anticipation of me coming back. I'm like, yeah, yeah, sorry, sorry, Ruby. Can't talk to you. I gotta go meet my adoring fans.

I feel good, I feel really good. There's also so much going on in pop culture that I need to talk about. And I'm dodging Love Island spoilers, like the plague. I'm one episode behind. I can't watch them live. Like I have a fucking newborn. Like them being on at nine o'clock, are you kidding me?

That's midnight for me. So I'm really- No, but it's so good that you're going to sleep before that wake window. Like I used to go to bed at like the 11 o'clock after that feeding. And then it's so good that you're going to sleep before that wake window. Like I used to go to bed at like the 11 o'clock after that feeding and then it's so late and Kojas prioritizes the early bedtime. Be proud of her.

Learn from her. We started going to bed at like the 11, 12 window. Big mistake. Now we go to bed at 8.30 with the baby. It's better. Obviously every night is different. But that means I have to watch Love Island the next day, which is fine.

Cause like, you know, during the day the baby sleeps a lot too. So me and Ben are always like, Ben calls it Love is Blind or Too Hot to Handle. He cannot remember the name of the show. What were you gonna say? I also don't like that when I wanna text someone about Love Island, I'm not writing out Love Island. So I'm writing Lai.

Laiusa. Laiusa. Like, L-I-U-S-A. There's not a good acronym for Laiusa. There's also Liouk. Liouk. Love Island UK. Ben is obsessed, I'm obsessed. We didn't watch last night

because we watch them during the day. So I'm gonna give some thoughts. But they're- I'm caught up to the same place that you are. I did not watch last night because I knew you weren't watching and I finished catching up at like 11 so I didn't wanna watch another episode.

So let's give our thoughts up until whatever happened last night which seems to have shook the villa. Now you can't obviously plan when you have a baby. And some people like to plan it so that like, they give birth right before the summer, so it's not too hot. If you can plan your postpartum around Love Island,

I cannot recommend it enough because I imagine it's quite overwhelming to keep up with the episodes when you have like a full-time job, a family to take care of, like you're just like busy everyday life. Yeah, I would say so. Postpartum, I need three episodes a day.

Like there's not enough. And the night where there's not an episode, like that next day, me and Ben just stare at each other. That's really funny. Well, I'm excited to talk about it with you because so far everyone I co-hosted with has not sacrificed their entire life to watch Love Island. So if you haven't watched the most recent episode, you're safe here. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is a safe space. Let's just go couple by couple. Obviously we have to start off with the most- Oh, you wanna do it now?

You don't wanna save it till the end just, like, cause not everyone's watching. Oh, you're right, you're right, you're right, okay fine. We'll put the timestamps so that nobody gets spoiled. You're right, you're right, I got too excited. Yeah, she's too hot in the pants. I'm so worried that like, I'm not gonna get all my thoughts out on today's episode

for like all the things that I think, that we're actually gonna do a Patreon episode, cause there's been so much pop culture stuff, like Aaron Rodgers is married. Also our bet, like we have to- You owe me money. I don't owe you money, bitch. You owe Mark Schoenwetter.

Well, you have to make a donation in my name. You say to the beautiful Jacqueline O'Shea. How much should we say it was for? I feel like we said five grand, we always say five grand. No, that's insane. We definitely said 1,000. You're right, you're right, I think we said 10,000. We said 1,000.

You're welcome, Mark. We said 10,000. We said 1000. You're welcome, Mark. We said 10,000. Can we make a donation to the Mark Schoenweider Foundation for $1,800? Question mark and in Jackie's name, question mark. Done. Oh my God, we should make more bets first of all. And then for stories today,

like the celebrities were just celebrating Father's Day yesterday, which we do need to talk about how you celebrities celebrated. But I picked some stories that are like part of things we talked about last week, because I need to get your opinion on certain things. Yes, we're gonna do like a whole back date

and patron episode, because like I need to talk about Rachel's O, like I need to talk about a lot of things. But yes, I appreciate today doesn't need to be the most like timely topical episode, because I need to talk about some things from last week too. The only thing that is not in the stories that we didn't need to be the most like timely topical episode because I need to talk about some things from last week too. The only thing that is not in the stories that we didn't need your opinion on

like right this minute is Tarek. Oh, I know. That's my king right there. Like one thing about Tarek, he's consistently aggressive and we love that for him. And- Did you read the details that it was in need of the face? Oh my God.

Let me tell you, like every, this is the thing. I have been onto Tareic since, like, right? And he's actually done a really good job of rehabilitating his image with, like, his content, with the old wife and the new wife, and he lives in on the joke. He wrote his book, he talked about the arm tic and how we were all deeply misunderstanding it.

It was for the bears, you know? I never was fooled. Now this is just for the proof. He's, like, clearly a crazy person. The amount of times I got tagged in like E news, the TikTok, Instagram, I must've gotten DM'd 10,000 times. I love that people associate his like-

Tarks violence with dirty. Correct. Obsessed and just like all is here to say like, I told you so. Like that's my consistent king right there, okay? Yeah, and you appreciate consistency. You know I do. And authenticity.

And I, especially in this kind of crazy phase of my life, like I really come to appreciate the stable things that I can rely on. And that's Tarek being violent and getting assaulted and arrested for a battery and assault. In Tarek's defense, he said that the guy was taunting his elderly father. That's the thing with Tarek,

he always has a very valid excuse, like the bears, right? Flawzable. Yeah, so maybe that's true, maybe that's not. That's all I can say. Yeah, okay. No comment, you know. Well, I'm glad that we have your official statement

on the matter. We couldn't put it to bed until we did. It's also so Tarek-like to have an outburst on my maternity leave. Well, I felt like he thought he could get away with it. Cause Tarek watch went dark for a month, but you know, I came to work today just to speak on this issue in particular.

The substitute teacher is in. You're right. He thought school was out for summer. And he didn't realize how I'd been influencing young minds about him, cause the way that like, that's a new story, like truly who gives a shit about, right? In the real world. Thousands of young women were heavily engaged.

There's probably E! News' like most shared post. A thousand percent, like trending news in the corner of their website because of us. Yeah, you're welcome Tarek, come on the show anytime. What can I say? Yeah. Except. Keeping him relevant. You're welcome.

Well, how are you doing? How's new mama life? How's Rue? How's- It's so great. Roe, how's Ben? Yes, Romeo was home. We celebrated Father's Day yesterday. Romeo.

And all Romeo wanted was, all Ben wanted was for Romeo to come home. And that's what he got. Let me tell you, I had been telling Ben that- He's coming home. I had been telling Ben he might be overestimating how easy it's gonna be with the walks, and Romeo's still very much a puppy-ish,

and Ben was like, it'll be fine, it'll be fine. And it was a little challenging, last night was our first night, Romeo just was barking a lot, waking the baby, it wasn't 100% copacetic, and Ben, I hated to be like, Ben, I told you so, and I couldn't be like a bitch because it was Father's Day, but like I told you so.

You know? Was it midnight yet? No, no, because we go to bed at eight o'clock. It's good to have him home, and you know, all the hate I've been getting on the internet has winded down because we didn't rehome Romeo. He stayed with his grandparents for three weeks,

and now he's home. It's good, I wanted to get in like a nice routine with him before the summer, so it's fine. But they say like there's this condition. I forget what it's called, like postpartum something where you just hate your animal. Like you just can't, and I'm not experiencing that whatsoever.

I'm just obviously like have different priorities now. And I will say, I think Ben prioritizes the baby and Romeo equally. And I'm like, you need to stop. But it's good, Romeo's fine. He's fine. We celebrated Father's Day, Ben's first Father's Day. Obviously there was a lot of speculation.

Will we celebrate since I didn't get to celebrate Mother's Day because I gave birth literally one week later. Straight up said you're not celebrating Father's Day. And we did celebrate Father's Day. We celebrated Ben as a father. We also celebrated Ben's father. So it was really nice. We had like a bagel brunch

and then I got Ben like an in-home massage for his birthday, which you know he loved. And he was like feeling so guilty about it. He's like, you should take it, you should take it. I almost did. My back was killing me breastfeeding his back breaking work. But I had the foresight to like weeks ago make this plan for a gift and I wanted to follow through on it.

And if I took it, Ben would have been fine, but he deserved it and he loves massages. He's always asking me, can we go get a massage? He's like, we have five minutes free. You want to go to the nail salon and get our back rubbed? Like Ben's obsessed. So it was the right thing to do, but it was hard not to take it.

I can't lie. Cause he really wanted me to, and I was like, you know what? Ask me one more time and I'll take it. Yeah. And actually in hindsight, we did actually have a really party delicious Mother's Day. Cause we were together and like you were doing the same thing that like I was doing and that's how I celebrated Mother's Day. So like, it wasn't like you had like a, a non- A bland, yeah. Mother's Day. Like I feel like you were doing the same thing that I was doing and that's how I celebrated Mother's Day. So it wasn't like you had a non-

event for Mother's Day. I feel like you were celebrated. So for him to have a little something, of course he's been a wonderful partner. I wouldn't say that I was celebrated, but yeah. Well, every day of Turtee's life is a celebration of Turtee. It's true. Right?

I feel like when I came on Patreon and did the birth story, I was still very much in, like they say, like there's like this euphoric, you're like running on adrenaline, postpartum, not everyone experiences it, but I definitely experienced it. Like newborn bubble. Newborn bubble, like even the things that are hard

and that suck, like you don't even care, you don't see them. Like I was very much, some people have the total opposite where it's like postpartum depression. I had definitely like the euphoric state and I'm out of that for sure, cause it's been like a little bit more real. Like the nights are getting harder, but I'm still like the euphoric state and I'm out of that for sure. Cause it's been like a little bit more real. Like the nights are getting harder,

but I'm still like loving every minute. We'll see what like, what I say next week. But for the most part- But I do think also sometimes people's postpartum depression like doesn't come until like one or two months. Like it's not immediate. And maybe that's waiting for me. No, no, no, no.

I'm just saying like, you could still have the euphoric bubble but then the crash like might be even harder. The euphoric bubble is so real though. And like, here's what nobody tells you about having a baby. Cause one of the things I was most excited about was the smell, right? I love the way babies smell.

It's just like so delicious. That smell lasts two weeks. I thought that smell lasted like a couple of months, but I was like sniffing. So you have to supplement. Yeah, with draft. I was- And Johnson and Johnson. Yeah, I I was sniffing. Yeah, with draft. I was- And Johnson and Johnson.

Yeah, I was literally sniffing behind his ears, like seriously so creepy. And I'm like, where is the smell? It's gone. Oh, sorry. What you also don't realize is that it's harder for you to smell it on your own baby because like you are part of the smell.

Like you would always come to my house and be like the smell. And like, I didn't smell it as much as you did because I'm immersed in it. So like next time I see the Rue. So maybe now that I've come to work. Oh, I mean, it's a little short, like. And I go back, I'll smell it.

I think when I see the Rue, I'll let you know what kind of smell he's emanating. But like, I think you're just too in it. Okay. So don't think that it all is lost. Well, I'm really excited to be back here on the toast talking about the things that I care about. Like I, Ben has been an amazing teammate in all this.

And I like talk to him about like what goes on in the world because I have nobody to talk to. And he does his part. He like pretending to care, but it's nice to be back with people who actually care about the important things in life. Like Aaron Rogers being married. I told him that and Ben was like,

was he not married before? I'm like, no, why would I share that information? Why would I randomly say Aaron Rogers is married if he'd been married for five years? Also that's rude. Cause I feel like, no, why would I share that information? Why would I randomly say Aaron Rodgers is married if we've been married for five years? Also, that's rude, because I feel like that's a topic that you should both be able to participate in. Correct, that's why I brought it up. It's mutual shared interests.

That's why I brought it up. Okay, fucking rude. It was actually so rude. He was like, was he not married before? Like, why would I randomly just be like, oh, Jackie Asher is married? Like, duh. Oh, Lish.

I'm gonna go easy on Lish because Lish has actually been- Lish deserves our utmost respect. Lish deserves ease. Lish deserves ease. Lish is an amazing dad, partner, friend. Like we knew he would be- He's so funny. He sent me his recipe for chicken rocks. I crushed them.

And Lish has been a huge part of my life recently, aside from being like my brother-in-law, and like my nephew's father. Because my children are obsessed with the Good Guys theme song. I love that. They are always like talking about Good Guys and Bad Guys because they love superheroes. And sometimes they'll be like, I want, you know,

they'll say like, I want baseball songs. So I just like search baseball on Spotify and play something. And they say, I want good guy song. And I'm like, well, actually, yet uncles on the ones and twos. And what do they think about like the vocals? Do they say that they prefer Josh's parts? They love it.

They love the song. And we keep listening to the same episode. And it starts like this, Benny and Joshy, Joshy and Benny. The Knicks are also bad and this is not good. Benny and they, and so we have to listen through that part too. I forgot that their song is not on streaming services

like ours is. No, and I could kill them. I'll tell them, I'll tell them to get on it. I did tell them, but I don't want to push the point because I know he's busy. And do you think Ben knows how to do that? Like. Okay, I guess I should tell Josh

because I'm literally like skip going back 15 minutes. They also know this is a Dear Media production. I'm cracking up. And I literally have to sit there in the passenger seat. Don't worry, I'm not driving, it's in Zach's car. And go back 15 seconds, like four times and we listen to it again. But at this point, when they do upload it to Spotify,

I need it to include Benny and Joshy, Joshy and Benny. They make it all so bad and this is not good. And this is a Dear Media production.. And this is a Dear Media production. Yeah, the following podcast is a Dear Media production. Hysterical. So I have always a warm spot in my heart for Ben, but he's been a very big part of my life recently. I love that.

My children's number one artist. Me too, literally me too. It's gonna be on your Spotify, well, it's not on Spotify. Oh, my number one podcast this year is gonna be good guys. Oh, I hate that. Yucky. Things I hate that- Nothing, nothing could usurp the toast actually.

There's no, there's nothing I could listen to more than I listen to the toast. It's not statistically possible. I actually don't listen to the toast. I watch the toast. Yeah, I don't listen to it either, but I do go to our page every day to share the link. So maybe that counts for something. Can I tell you my thoughts on Jackie O and friends?

Because I was thinking this last night I wanted to share like, because I've been a toaster these last couple of weeks. Let me tell you how fabulous it is to have a daily podcast with pargy vibes, audio and video that comes out every day. Like I totally get why people are so obsessed with us. And it's been so fun, obviously, to watch the co-hosts, especially some of the new ones. And I was thinking last night, like I wanted to share who my favorites were.

And then I realized like I'm so toxic because both of my favorites are the men. Oh, who? Joey Kamaster. Always. And nobody is a bigger fan of Joey Kamaster than my father-in-law. He said, I saw Joey Kamaster is on the toast.

I have to watch that one. I said, yes, you do, Bruce. Did you see Joey was talking about Bruce on the podcast? I forget what he said, but he's- Yes. Oh, because Joey's also the son of a chef. Yes, and you know him and Ben cook together. Yeah, and he said that he kiki'd with Bruce.

I was like, not that kiki with Bruce. Bruce loves Joey. Okay, like obsessed. I love that. And Joey's obviously been on before, but not with you. So it was like a new dynamic. And Joey's just like- No, yes with me, but not in forever.

Not since pink backdrop. You just need to like park him by a microphone and he will make you laugh. Like I just love him. And I honestly, the Chrisley story being his day, I needed to hear his thoughts on Julie and Todd Chrisley, which I also want to talk about in my Patreon episode. So obsessed.

And then I also really loved Jared Free, like fresh, you know, Floridian dynamic. So not me being toxic and like choosing the two male hosts out of like 15 who are all women, but that those were my faves in case anyone was wondering. Those were so good. I seriously have so much fun with it every single day. I'm also getting to live out like my Jackson wonderland era

because I'm really enjoying the art of podcasting. Like we get to the stories, but not everyone's a pop culture expert. So I'm not like rushing there. And I just get to like have a little chit chat, see where the convo goes. And let me tell you something about Jax. She is chatty.

When she's kind of left to her own devices without lechard, she can talk that Jax. I mean, KFC and I did an hour and 45 minutes. Let me ask you something. How do you feel it's been going with the advertisement? Oh, I'm having a ball. Yeah, I know. I'm having a ball.

And nice of you to put your mic flag on. Explain to me where your mic flag has been for the last three at home episodes. You didn't have it with Trout, you didn't have it with Margot, and you didn't have it with Taylor Strucker. Sorry, not Trout, not Trout, not Trout. It was at the studio.

I bring them to the studio, so we have mic flags for our guest episodes. And then the couple ones that I did from home, I didn't know the day before that I wasn't coming back. You know what, in the words of Jackie O, I'm fucking all the way off, like 100% valid excuse. Thank you so much. A little slack would go a long way around here at the moment.

By the way, I did give you slack because I could have brought it up the first time I saw it and I didn't. Yeah, no, they're at our- I'm trying to be like a hands-off maternity, but it's hard, oh my God, it's hard. She's literally not. It's so hard.

But you've been doing a great job. Obviously the ads have been running a little long, but that's just a gift to our sponsors. It's a gift to our sponsors who are so tried and true and I love that every day, so many of the sponsors are the same. They deserve our love and our authenticity. So today I'm also gonna do the ads

just because I want Claudia to just have like the guest experience. You know what, I really appreciate that. Like the ads is a burden, right? Do you agree like timing it right and making sure it's like a good part of the show and like that you're being funny. So it is, it does weigh heavily in the fact

that I'm just sitting here without an iPad. Like I don't know what I'm gonna do during the ads. No, and also once you get into a groove with the ads you remember all the copy, you know the points that each brand wants you to hit. So it's just like all in your head. Like the first few days I was like looking at, there's so much copy, what do I need to say?

Now I'm, we're simpatico, which you usually are with the brands, but like stay, like stay chilled over there. Oh, she said get out of here. Stay chilled, you know, don't worry about it. I'm so chill. And I got two new air conditioning units in the studio while I've been gone. I can hear them. You can? Don't worry about it. And I got two new air conditioning units in the studio

while I've been gone. I can hear them. You can? Don't worry, the microphone's not picking it up. The audio microphone. But I've been obviously preoccupied with Ruby, but air conditioning is still a number one priority and I now have three units.

Oh, I forgot to tell you guys, remember I was talking about how I got this brand new air conditioning unit in my studio. I was so excited. It was like really like a labor of love. I had to buy it, then I would come and install. Like it was a whole thing. It was, you know, working part-delicously

for like two, three weeks. I get an email from like Home Depot or whatever that the exact model that I bought, like of all the units in all the land, the exact unit that I bought has been recalled for mold. Now there are a lot of things things get recalled for and for the most part, it's like not the biggest deal, but like mold, not an option.

I would have ignored it if it was anything else. So then I had to get a refund and a new one and an installation like torture fest. But we now have three units working, firing on all cylinders of this new office. And to be honest, I'm kind of cold. Oh, LOL. Well, we're matching today also.

We didn't plan like cream sweaters, parjipans. Creamsicle swirly. We're so creamsicle and we're just so simpatico. And we're also running a little bit behind. You know, the time police is here. Oh, but that's the thing about being a guest on my show. You never know how long the pre fast five banner could go. Well, I'm ready to dive in.

Okay, I just, I'm shocked that you're ready to dive in. I'm really shocked. You know what? You have to give us more. Sorry. You know, for the fans, we need more coaches. Yeah, my like current timeline is my breasts. Like I can feel them growing larger.

But I would rather rush through the fifth story than skimp on banter. Do you know what I mean? All right, let's banter now. What do you wanna know? Two episodes last week, it was just four stories. I don't know how many people noticed, but I was like, fuck this.

The Fast Five have taken a hit. Oh, the Fast Five have taken a hit for sure. Did you talk about the Real Housewives of New York, like the loser version, all of them commenting on your Instagram reel? No, I didn't because I'm like, it made me so uncomfy. Butt clenching. I did allude to it when I was podcasting

with Taylor Strucker because last week when I podcasted with Margo, we were talking about the Real Houses of New York recast and whoever did that should be fired and they shouldn't be in charge of the next, what they're gonna do the same job again of recasting Real Houses of New York. And we posted that clip just about fire people

who are bad at their jobs and then a bunch of the former cast members started commenting. Of the new show, Jenna Lyons, Uba, they were butthurt about it when the clip wasn't really about them and we said what we said and I stand by it. Yeah, Uba's friends with Taylor Strecker though,

did you know that? Yes I did. Like long standing friends. Amore, amore. Uba's comment was funny to me because she said as long as you have confidence in Wi-Fi, like I guess you can say anything. Who cares about facts?

Who cares about facts, yeah. What was not factual? I don't know. I didn't understand her comment, but I met Ubo once and I was absolutely dazzled by her. So she's a-okay in my book. Like leave all the comments you want. No, just because you're not a good reality star

doesn't mean you're not a good person or an interesting person or like, I mean, I don't think I would be a good reality star, but like I'm fabulous. I would argue if you're not a good reality star, you're not a good person or an interesting person or like, I mean, I don't think I would be a good reality star, but like I'm fabulous. I would argue if you're not a good reality star, you're probably a good person. Like that's just kind of the connection I made. After Taylor Strecker hosted, she came over to my house.

She was like, I forgot, I didn't realize, I'm like so out of it when I saw her on the toast, I'm like, oh my God, bitch, come over. Like you're in my studio, come over. She did, we went to lunch. Like that was like the most normal I had felt. Where do you think? Ferdy.

I had to take Ruby to Bloomingdale's to have ice cream and Taylor's trucker had never been to 40 Carrots. That's twisted. You went to Rubingdale's? We went to Rubingdale's. It was my first time in like an indoor restaurant. We go outside every day, either for a walk to the park or like an outdoor lunch spot somewhere that has

like Parjeleish's outdoor seating, El Fresco. But it was so hot that day. So Taylor Strecker said she'd never been. And so I was in an indoor restaurant. I can't lie. I was like having a little bit of a panic. It was like, it was kind of crazy. I have like a three week old.

It was like a little scuffy. It was like, it was busy too, but like lots of kids. Yeah. I was like, I was hating it. But it felt so good to be like out and about. I love Taylor Strecker. So like, if you want to. But it felt so good to be like out and about. I love Taylor Strecker. So like, if you wanna have more of my friends come to the studio, that would work for my social events calendar.

Okay, great. I'm trying to think, oh, this week, I have an exciting week. I have a guest coming to stay with me for two episodes, which is something that I had meant to do previously, but it just hasn't worked out until now. So I have my guest and then we're off Thursday. And then Friday, we have another exciting guest.

First time co-host, not first time guest. That's all I'll say. I wanna know who it is. Give me like a subliminal message. Okay, I'll give you a gender, male, and it's been in our text messages. Oh, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Male, what do you mean it's gonna be your favorite?

He lit our light. I'm so toxic. And now that I'm a boy mom, I yeah, yeah, yeah. Male, what do you mean it's gonna be your favorite? You literally, I'm so toxic. And now that I'm a boy mom, I just wanna say, I think there's been a lot of speculation about how Turtee is gonna be different, right? Obviously motherhood changes you so much. And when I come on the podcast and talk every day, I'm not gonna be a different type of person. And for the most part,

I actually feel more like myself than ever. I don't feel like I've changed that much. Except I will be changing my disposition on dear toasters two ways. One, cause I'm a boy mom now and I'm definitely a toxic boy mom. Like I need to have a daughter so that Ruby has a girl to marry because he's not marrying out of the family.

Sorry. What about a cousin? What about like Michaela? Sure, Michaela, sure. Fine, fine. But the second way I feel like I'm definitely gonna be changed when it comes to dear toasters is like, I feel like sometimes I'm a little cavalier about like,

you know, boyfriends and husbands just being like, whatever, you know, like. I guess I actually- You mean like make it work? Yeah, I- No, you're always like break up with your gay boyfriend. I am always saying break up with your gay boyfriend. But I feel like now more than ever,

I've really come to understand and appreciate how like who you have a baby with is like, it's a choice, right? It's like the biggest decision you'll ever make in your life. Life is not a fairy tale, I've really come to understand and appreciate how like who you have a baby with is like, it's a choice, right? Like the biggest decision you'll ever make life is not a fairy tale. I'm sorry. Like the guy who's, you know, giving you eight orgasms, and like, you know, riding off in a motorcycle, like I love him, and he's mean to you. But like, I love him, like that the bar has been raised significantly, like the most important choice you will make in this life is who you go through the newborn trenches with. And like, I just like I'm not going to be putting up with this like behavior any longer, even though I really haven't been putting up with it, but the bar is even higher now.

Yeah, you haven't been putting up with it. But are you also saying like it's more than just like I love him. Like, yes, no, we need to be thinking critically about the characteristics of our partner. That's what I meant. It's not so sexy. It's not so sexy and romantic all the characteristics of our partner and what you want in a father. It's not so sexy and romantic all the time. When you are choosing who you're gonna marry and have kids with, obviously love is important, right? But it's not the most important, no, sorry, it is the most important.

It's not the only thing. There are so many other characteristics. And I think that when we were like, oh, my husband's a P-jump and he did X. Well, a P-jump wouldn't do that. So actually he's not a P-jump and you need to break up with him because he can't be the father of your children. Now, my husband's a P-Jum, but he did X. Well, a P-Jum wouldn't do that. So actually he's not a P-Jum, and you need to break up with him because he can't be the father of your children.

Now, if you're not planning on having children, you can let them get away with more, 1,000%. But I just like, I feel like my growth will be most evident during Deer Toasters. Wow, can't wait to see it. Should have had you on a Tuesday. I like the mother-in-law,

like now I'm the toxic mother-in-law. Nobody's good enough for my boy. Literally nobody. I got so upset like on our first outing, which was to the pediatrician like three days later, I got so upset in the back of the car. Like thinking about the fact that Ruby's gonna have a girlfriend one day, not on my watch.

No, and like just wait till you start thinking about like when he gets married. No, I feel sick. The girl gets like all the good holidays. Yeah. That's why I think there are things that you can do to stave it off. Yeah, have a daughter.

Have a daughter, yeah. I will be having a daughter next. But I think also like having an amazing vacation home that everyone wants to go to. No, but also just being like the fun. Like that's my, that's my like. Your daughter-in-law would like run from you if you're like a toxic overbearing.

You just need to be like the fun family. Like, oh, you know, our outings are great. We go out and we have cocktails. Like we're fun. Everyone has different ideas of fun though. You think it's so simple, but it's not. Of course, of course. I also haven't had a cocktail.

Right. I went out to lunch on Saturday. I almost did, but it wasn't the right setting. And I think I want my first cocktails to be like in the Hamptons this summer. Yeah. And it's like less so about like, obviously your breast milk, which by the way, if you're not like drinking into oblivion,

like you can still use your breast milk. Yeah. And they say the best time to have a cocktail is as you're nursing, like a wine in one hand, a baby in the other. No, because like the milk that they're drinking is from two hours ago, think things that you ate. Yeah, but more so it's like, can you parent a little tipsy?

Like, no. Do you want to? Yeah, a little hungover, no. That's where it's like more unpleasant. Challenging, agreed. So if you have like a wine in the middle of afternoon and you're crashing by evening. It's gonna be a lot of trial and error this summer. So I'm looking forward to that journey.

But it will be a pargy summer. It's gonna be a swirly summer, the second in a row. It's also gonna be a pargy Patreon summer because if you want the pargy vibes, head over to the Patreon, like it's going down. You're halfway through, you're halfway through Jackson Friends and in two weeks the TOS is off for the summer.

Yeah. But we're not because we'll be releasing one re-release every week and one patron every week. So you'll be fed plenty, but still. But still. Now let's get into the Fast Five stories that you need to know because Cogeus needs to go home to her wee little baby.

Because Cogeus is leaking. Shout out to Lansinno, okay? If you know, you know. You Lansinno. You LansinnoO, okay? If you know, you know. You Lansin-O. You Lansin-O. I got this box, Jackie was like, you need these like nipple covers.

I'm like, okay, whatever. And it came, it was probably a box of a thousand. And I'm like, what the hell? I'm done with it. Like I, everything Lansin-O makes is the best thing ever. So are you oversupplied a little bit? I am definitely. And we talked about, thank you.

I'm glad you brought this up. I mean, too, because your dreams came true. I am, I'm not an oversupplier. I make more than enough for my child. I don't pump. I collect milk with like a suction thing. And I have a freezer full of milk that I've probably pumped collectively

four or five times with. Everything just gets collected. I collect like 12 extra ounces a day and I'm not even trying. That's just like, and I'm still always like big and engorged. So I got what I wished for. I'm not an oversupplier because I watch people who pump 30 ounces in one sitting. Like that's fucking crazy. Well, that's like extreme oversupply. I have a very, very healthy supply. And I'm very grateful because I know some people

like pump all day and get one ounce. Like, Yeah. If I, I could pump. I actually did pump last night cause Ben needed to make a bottle. I pumped for about six minutes and I got five ounces. Like I think that's really, yeah.

That's a lot. No, I know. Her dreams came true. Is it everything you dreamed of? It's nice to not have to worry, honestly. I know some people like really panic and that's the thing nursing is so hard. And then I go to the doctor and you know,

Poopoo is gaining weight ahead of schedule. It makes you feel so good, right? Like it's worth all the pain and the literally like the crying at night. I know some people go to the doctor after going through the same pain as me and they're like, you need to supplement with formula. It's not, you're not driving.

Baby's not gaining enough weight and that's really hard. So I'm grateful to the supply for not, he's not driving. Baby's not gaining enough weight. And that's really hard. So I'm grateful to the supply for that, but it's not without its challenges. My boobs always hurt. I still am wearing a bra in the shower. I have a shower bra that I hang on a hook. And is it a bathing suit yet? No, no.

I was thinking of buying a bathing suit, obviously. Like a waterproof top, a waterproof bra, which is a bikini top. Jackie, I literally was like, too bad. They should make shower bras. And he's like, it's amazing. You said you take a shower in your bra. I was like, is it a shower bra?

But then I'm like, that's amazing. So I have one distinct bra. Actually, if you watch my Patreon, what's in my hospital bag, one of those mom cozy ones I got from Amazon, it's like kind of like a really thin, it's not a good bra for like every day. It's a good shower bra.

I wore it today. Before I got here, I showered in my shower bra. So that's the bit. That is not a good bra for like every day. It's a good shower bra. I wore it today before I got here, I showered in my shower bra. So that's the- That is not a bathing suit bra. Margot came over and I was nursing and she was like, holy shit. My boobs have tripled in size

and they were already doubled in size from pregnancy. Like they are the biggest boobs definitely in New York City right now. Like nobody has bigger boobs than me in the five boroughs. That's the challenge. Like they hurt, they're really big. But other than that, it's been a blessing to have a supply. I'm very grateful.

I know not everybody has that. That's really beautiful. I need to let you know something beautiful. Speaking of beauty, today's episode of The Toast is brought to you by America's Sweethearts, Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders coming back to Netflix season two premiering on June 18th. So perfect timing for Swirly Summer

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But when I'm live doing it, I don't, because I've got like, you know, I feel like a spy with all my different gadgets. But if I pre- doing it, I don't, because I've got like, you know, I feel like a spy with all my different gadgets. But if I pre-record them, I do. But you know, I'm winging it. I wanted to say one more thing about motherhood that I thought that I had that I wanted to share, because I feel like I'm kind of like the, you know,

I'm always talking about how like I timed it so perfectly. And like I really waited till I was ready. And so many people said to me, including you that really stuck with me, it was like, you know, you're gonna love motherhood so much, you're gonna wish you did it sooner, right? Like you, I remember when you wrote me a card last year, I think for my birthday, you were like talking about

how I was such an amazing sister, and I've been such a great aunt, because you had obviously like a tough year with Charlie, and I was, you said like, you know- When I was pregnant. When you were pregnant, you were like, it's gonna be like one of those things that I told you to do, like reading and Downton Abbey, like you're gonna wish you did it sooner. And I was pregnant. When you were pregnant, you were like, it's gonna be like one of those things that I told you to do, like reading and Downton Abbey,

like you're gonna wish she did it sooner. And I was just having this conversation with Lauren Elena cause we were two days apart due date wise. She went so over and I went so under, literally she just gave birth and I almost have a one month old, like that's how crazy it is. But she was like, oh my God, I wish I did it sooner.

And it really got me thinking like, do I wish I did it sooner? And honestly, no, like, let me tell you why. I feel like I'm enjoying it so much. And if I was like, when I was younger, I was like so impatient and so like such a brat that I, if I was doing like all these like night feedings, I would be a monster. And I don't think I would be enjoying it as much. I think I'd be like really mean to Ben. I think like I did it, you know, everything obviously happens for a reason and timing is everything, but like I don't have that feeling

like I wish I did it sooner. Do you know what I mean? Yes, but I also feel like if you're ever gonna feel that way, I wouldn't expect it to be right now. Oh, okay. You know? Yeah, cause you're like in the trenches.

Like it's like, why would I wanna do this hard thing sooner? I'm glad that I'm more prepared. Yeah, right. No, and also there's so many things that go into it. Obviously like getting your mind right. And I feel like I've only recently gotten my mind right if I'm being that I'm more prepared. Yeah, right. No, and also there's so many things that go into it. Obviously like getting your mind right. And I feel like I've only recently gotten my mind right, if I'm being completely honest, financially. Like it's such a, not a burden,

but like obviously it's like a lot. It's expensive. Expensive, like hospital bills, Amazon Prime. Yeah, even if you're not buying a crib for your son. Right, which I didn't by the way. And everybody was like, oh, I see that you bought a crib. Like you obviously got the one you wanted. No bitch, okay.

See, I told you. She made it work. I made it work. Thank you, Babylist. See, I told you. She made it work. I made it work. Thank you. Baby list. What was I saying? No, no, no. I hear what you're saying that you're in a good spot now.

But like one, you might have that, if you ever feel that way, I think it might come later. And two, you could argue perhaps that if you did it sooner, even when you weren't like as mature as you are now, like it might have matured you. Because it's the sort of thing that changes a person. However, there's no way to know.

There's no way to know. And I think the timing was all right. And I think in the words of Garrett Hedlund from my favorite Gwyneth Paltrow movie, timing is everything. And seriously, who wants to live with a regret like that? Totally. No, it's how I like it.

It's good. 40 minutes later, I'm ready for the first story. Justin Bieber declares he's a dad that's not to be fucked with in a bizarre father's day, 2025 post. So literally BSA, like Justin Bieber is continuing erratic social media behavior, we can call it. He posted a selfie yesterday on Father's Day saying,

I'm a dad that's not to be fucked with, middle finger. Then he also posted a series of- Literally Huda. Oh, from Love is Blind? Yeah. Love is Blind Island? Love is Blind, Love is Blind. Then he also posted a series of text messages

with a former friend. Yeah, we dropped the name. I don't wanna say- We dropped the name. I don't wanna say lashing out at him because it's not lashing out if you're acting out of trauma, says Justin, but him turning on his friend, it's like a series of three screenshots and that person's no longer his friend. He didn't say what was kind of random that he posted it.

So it was just like a complex day for Justin yesterday. He's still like spinning out, although Haley is over here like maintaining everything's good. There was also that paparazzi video of Justin in a blue hoodie, like begging the paparazzi to leave him alone because he's standing on business, okay?

Yeah. But then Haley commented on a GirlbossTown TikTok where she was just like, Paparazzi, leave Justin alone. Like we literally don't need to see a picture of him going from his van to his door. Like we don't give a fuck. And Haley commented like, exactly.

So Haley's over here maintaining like it's all good when like it's, is it all good? I don't know, but I think when you've just sold your company for a billion dollars, everything is good, you know? Just sort of wash his clean, everything clean. Right, why doesn't somebody buy my company for a billion dollars?

And I'll just test that theory, you know? Yeah, and then you could start yelling at the paparazzi and like, does it matter? No. No, it doesn't. And the paparazzi have been such like an issue in my life that I obviously resonate with this completely because I was paparazzi one time outside of catch by TMZ.

Those photos never- Didn't even make it to air. They never saw the light of day. So it has been an issue. It has been an issue, a big one. In your life. And the thing is it's actually better that those photos never saw the light of day because I forgot to share when we shared that story recently that I had the biggest visible panty line in the dress that I was wearing like

actually offensively large. Oh speaking of visible panty lines I don't know why that just reminded me. I did also want to talk about the fact that I've restarted the show Girls. I don't want to talk about that. I know, but I have one thought. Ben had never seen it and I just had a feeling he would love it. And I was right, he's obsessed with it. Because it was good and before it got bad,

there was a moment in time where it was lightning in a bottle and it was so good. No, no, it's so good. It is some of the funniest writing. I don't find the show particularly relatable. It was one of those shows where it's like, there's four girls, which one are you? A Samantha, a Carrie? No, it's not like that. I don't know the show particularly relatable. It was one of those shows where it's like, there's four girls, which one are you? A Samantha, a Carrie?

No, it's not like that. I don't know if anyone's lived experience is even remotely relatable to those four freaks in Brooklyn, but I believe, and my major takeaway is it's kind of a, if you want to have the conversation about nepotism, let's start with Alison Williams, the worst actress to ever walk the earth. Now I'm sure that she has gone on to improve her skills

because she was in that, you know, very popular Jordan Peele movie, Get Out, and she's gone on to do great things. But her first ever job as an actress was this hit HBO primetime show because her father is, you know, now disgraced news anchor, Brian Williams, is that his name? Yeah.

She is the worst actress to ever act. Like it's an assault on the art form of acting. It's shocking that everyone else is a nepo baby in that show too. Lena Dunham's dad, Zosia Mamet's dad, Jemima Kirk. Everyone's parent is someone famous. She is glaringly nepotistic. She is awful at her job.

And I feel like sometimes we talk about nepotism where it's like, well, are you deserving of it? Like Gwyneth Paltrow at 21 winning an Oscar, like she was gonna be famous regardless. I don't give a fuck who her dad was or her mom. Alison Williams was going nowhere before her father. Like she's a true character study in nepotism. She definitely got better

because like I know she went on to do big things, but oh my God, she's the, Marnie is the worst actress ever. I'm like, is this a joke? Well, I feel like when they got cast also it was like a bunch of nepo kids. They were probably friends. Nobody knew it was gonna be like the next biggest show.

Nina Dunham was like a first time writer, just like sort of hit. And it could have gone, it could have been just like a weird artsy project. So it's not like she got cast in Dakota Johnson, 50 Shades of Grey with no prior work. Which is still like, that's the craziest act of nepotism to ever shake Hollywood.

That's the craziest act of nepotism. Your first job ever, like you have no experience. Like the biggest movie of all time, guaranteed hit. So I'm gonna give Alice in the Millions like a little bit of a pass there. How does it make you feel about Lena Dunham? Like is she a once in a generation talent? Okay, it actually makes me feel really conflicted

because while her character is horrible and we hate and whatever, she's the creator of the show. And obviously like I'm normal, I dislike Lena Dunham, but I dislike her for reasons. I feel like people just dislike her because she's like. Yucky. Yeah, like, but I dislike her for that one I feel like people just dislike her because she's like. Yucky. Yeah, like, but I dislike her for that one article

she wrote about Jack Antonoff being like having a Jewish boyfriend. It was deeply anti-Semitic and beyond problematic, and I've never been able to move past that. I can acknowledge my own biases. It's literally because of this one article. People don't like the semi she wrote in her book about like molestation. She has like none of that stuff. I don't even like don't even remind me.

For me, it's just it starts and ends with that article. No, the book thing was weird, sorry. Yeah, no, agreed, agreed, agreed, agreed, agreed. I totally forgot about that. Having said that, like she's extremely funny and talented, like the writing is- She has a new show coming out. I know, with my queen Meg Stalter

who plays the assistant in Hacks, Jimmy's assistant. Maybe you should watch it. I know, like the thing is, I'm conflicted because, and also she saw something in Adam Driver none of us saw because he was like this random weird actor, this is his first role in Girls, and he is the biggest star in the world now, Star Wars, because of her.

So listen, you know, she's definitely having a redemption era because she's been like popping up a lot and this new show I think is gonna be really good. And I'm having a girl's Renaissance. Like, I'm sorry, it is really good. Are you having a Lena Dunham summer? No, no, no, no, no. Don't tell anyone that, I'm not.

Tidal, Claudia Osh, are you having a Lena Dunham summer? I'm not, I never said that. I'm just just saying Ben Soffer is having a Lena Dunham summer. He thinks it's so funny That is funny that he thinks it's funny while I have you on the subject of Justin Bieber we need to know your thoughts on road sale and Haley's post about the Justin's post about Haley's vote cover We I think I was on the show for Vogue's, the Vogue thing. No, yeah, I was KC.

Oh, okay, okay. The road sale, obsessed. Like you love to see women in business. Now, obviously I'm toxic, and so I'm obviously gonna compare road to rare beauty because it's like celebrity led brands, beauty space. And we just love to see that. Like we just love to see road doing its thing, love to see like Ro doing its thing, sorry.

And I just, I love when people make a billion dollars. Like obviously I wish it could have been me, but if it wasn't gonna be me, I was really happy. I'm a Haley stan. She needs, like she needed that. She did, like she's so underestimated and everybody, she just gets, and I think the Justin Baldoni thing like really highlighted like what is going on

on the internet when it comes to the vitriol being sent to Hailey Bieber's way. You could dislike something she did or she could not be your favorite person, but it's really fucking crazy what has gone on with Hailey Bieber for 10 years. For all that she's been with, this billion dollars is pennants, or whatever the word is.

She deserves it. Restitution. Yes, thank you. She deserves it. She needs this billion dollars. Like she deserves it. It's, she- Restitution. Yes, thank you. She deserves it. She needs this billion dollars. She needs to relax. The products are amazing. She needs to relax, but also like keep them coming.

My whole face is Rode. Me too. That Rode toner is the best beauty product of all time. Like I just want to say, I used it throughout- The Cilindrical bottle. Yes, I used it throughout my entire pregnancy. It's in my skincare routine. It's in my makeup routine. It's in my makeup routine.

It is the best thing. Obviously the pep, road pep, liptide, peptide, liptides, whatever the fuck they're called. Obsessed I'm wearing one right now. Like, yeah, but like a gloss is a no brainer. Everything she makes is amazing. Pineapple face scrub. I just finished mine.

Pineapple, yes. The marketing has been like a true exercise in how to use influencers and how to receive feedback from the internet that's not necessarily positive and like implement it into your brands. Like that was something that happened with her blushes. Like she released a bunch of blushes

and this really popular makeup creator was like, these don't work for anybody who's like not pale as hell. And she worked with that creator, came out with a whole line. Like she just took the feedback. It's just, it's brilliant. I'm sorry, it's an exercise in how to make products for women, make products for the internet.

Like I love it. I hope Elf doesn't ruin it. Yeah. But Joey, it was actually great. We had Joey on when we discussed the sale of Rode. He's a makeup artist. Like we forgot cause he's also like a million other things. But he was saying how this is going to be so great.

Cause Elf, like they are able to make products cheaper, not changing the quality just because of the volume of the orders that they place. It's true, elf products are $3 for everyone and they're premium as hell. It's like the best drug store brand out there. Right, so he was very excited about it. No, he's so right for that.

I'm very excited about it too. And then the Vogue cover, like a lot of Justin Bieber social media activity, like I don't give a fuck about. Like some people monitor everything. They're like, that's rude. And he's talking about Selena. Like I literally don't give a fuck about. Like some people monitor everything. They're like, that's rude. And he's talking about Selena. Like I literally don't give a fuck.

I never, even the story you were mentioning, like could I change the subject faster? Like I don't care. This Vogue cover one, that one caught my attention. That one was really bad. But like Hailey remains unbothered, billionaire queen, you know, says everything's fine. So I don't know.

Once again, I'm left confused. Yeah, yeah, I agree. I'm just sort of like on the sidelines. I'm not gonna put too much, I'm not gonna like join a team. No, I'm just, I'm gonna stay using the road toner. Same. Our next story is actually some funny Doja Cat news. Cause Doja Cat's going viral for a fan encounter

that she experienced. A video went viral of a fan. He's also an influencer, his name is Pablo. And it's a video of him like praising Doja Cat. He sees her outside of a building or whatever, and like they're hugging and she loves his t-shirt and she wants one. He said, I made it and he takes it off and gives it to her.

And then like holds her and kisses her. And then it's like, what's your real name by the way? And she shares her real name. And she actually seems like really like excited to meet him and you wouldn't think anything of it It's just like a fan interaction Then doja cat went on Twitter and started tweeting She says bottom line is I'll smile at you

But it doesn't mean I fuck with you and don't touch me and manhandle me when you don't even fucking know me if you know You know I honestly think I need to stand up for myself in the moment sometimes and he didn't even know my fucking name to be touching Me and kissing me on my face like that is crazy. Then she said, I threw that musty ass shirt away by the way. Literally? Lol.

Lol. What are your thoughts? Okay. So I feel two ways. Because I agree that like fan culture's so crazy. The way celebrities get manhandled is really nuts. People are just animals, animals. But it's hard to know that he was crossing a line

when you were engaging so heavily. You know what I mean? I watched a video and I didn't think anything of it. But then I saw her reaction and I'm like, okay, that's valid too. I actually don't know. No, but I feel like she did the right thing in the moment. Like you would have never known that she was not enjoying it.

Like she gave that fan like every bit of shine that she had, like literally are hugging up like best friends. He does kiss her on the face. He's literally holding her by the arms. So I don't know what she like successfully got away with hating the interaction, but looking like she liked it. So I don't know why she then like went on Twitter to like say that it was the opposite of that

but maybe just to not encourage more people to do it because I do agree like him kissing on the face and he's a Doja Cat fan but he doesn't know her real name. Like, yeah, I guess, but like. Like you know Stephanie German. Like if I saw Lady Gaga, like you know someone's real name when you're like a fan of theirs. Well, Lady Gaga is not, don't check out.

No, but like he's a fan waiting outside for her. So like he's that level of fan. I do feel like a lot of celebrities like have thoughts on this and they put in place like boundaries that like no one would even be able to get close to them to kiss them on the face. Do you know what I mean? And that's, that's their boundaries.

And it's the right thing for them to do for themselves. Some people love it and then Maddie Heelys goes out and makes out with fans, right? So I feel like the better way to have handled this would have this to been like for Doja Cat to be like, this is a lesson that like I needed to learn. I do not wanna be kissed or touched. Like you can give people less access to you.

Do you know what I mean? But like you can't like go balls deep in fan culture and then be mad when people don't act right. Like fan culture is insane. Yeah, but if in the moment, if she had like been a little standoffish and like not okay with the touch, it would have gone viral in the other way of like her being.

But I would have been defending her because like that's valid. Me too, and I'm not, I actually, she didn't have to say the shirt was musty. Yeah, no, she took it a little far. Beyond that, I do think like her giving him what he wanted in that moment, making herself uncomfortable

because she didn't wanna like be a not a people pleaser and then saying, you know what, like don't touch me like that fans, like I don't like it. I think that would have been totally fine. It got a little harsh with the musty. With the musty, which is like, if anybody ever calls me musty,

just like meet me on the Queensborough bridge, I'm jumping. And I actually am the definition of musty these days because the way you like sweat and smell postpartum, especially if you're breastfeeding, like nobody told me that when you breastfeed, like you have an aversion to deodorant. I put on deodorant 55 times a day,

but like it doesn't work, right? It's not enough. Well, your glands are working overtime. Yeah, yeah. And I remember when we were at the West Hampton Beach performing arts center, doing a meet and greet, there was a toaster there who had given birth like three days ago.

There was a placenta hanging out of her. And she was like, I got this ticket and I went to labor early. I'm like, I don't care, I'm still coming. She's like, I'm really sorry if I smell. I'm like, why would you smell? She was like, when you just are postpartum, you smell. And I gave her a hug and she didn't really smell,

but I was like, it stuck with me. I'm like, oh, I might smell. Oh, she was underselling the smell. No, you're like sweating out all of the hormones that you've built up over 10 months. And you're sweating out 24 seven. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

So perhaps you are musty if anybody calls you that done. Yeah, I definitely am musty, but it's probably the meanest thing you could say to someone. But when I wake up and I look in the mirror and like I've obviously been sweating throughout the night and I sleep in just my nursing bra, it's a really scary sight. Me waking up a diaper and a nursing bra and I look in the mirror, bra. It's a really scary sight, me waking up, a diaper and a nursing bra.

And I look in the mirror, I guess the actual perfect word to describe how I look is musty. And are you wearing a musty ass bra? No, I'm keeping my bras so clean. I change my bra every single day. I have four. Which is like, I know that sounds like, well of course, like you change your undies every single day.

No, it's not a course. No, no, no, but like no one changes their bra every single day. No, it's not a course. No, no, no, but like no one changes their bra every single day. No, but I have four and I wash it every day so that I'm never left without, you know, it's a full-time job staying on top of my kindred Braverly collection of nursing bras. Understood.

You are Braverly. That was a good one. You're a wizard of Braverly place. Title. That was a good one. You're a wizard of Braverly Place. Title. Our next story is a little biz news because David Beckham is launching a new snack line inspired by his love of beekeeping. If this were anyone else-

Oh, okay, actually, yeah, I was about to roll my eyes. If this were anyone else I would hate this, like a new snack line inspired by their love of blank, like shut up. The Netflix documentary is the best thing that ever happened to those two. Yeah, because when I think of like celebrity beekeepers, I do think of David Beckham.

Yes, a hundred percent. And then they also got that Uber Eats campaign from the Superbowl because of the whole tell them, tell them, and then they made a line of merch, Victoria Beckham merch. It's the best thing to ever happen to them. I love that. I'm a big fan of them.

Celebrity product lines are getting a little crazy. I've never been one to be like, oh, celebrities launching brands. I happen to love it, especially in the beauty and skincare space. I think some people have a lot of negative things to say about it. It's over saturated, whatever.

I literally don't give a fuck. The snacks, like. Are yay or nay? It's kind of a nay for me. I don't mind them. Cause I feel like they're usually filling a gap. And I find that like a lot of celebrities, especially celebrities who have become moms,

like they go and create the snack that we all want to give our kids. Like Jennifer Garner, once upon a farm, pargy. Jessica Beale, kinderlight. Like by the way, why can't I find kinderlight anywhere? I need to be on their PR list. The amount of Kinder Light we go through in this house, I wanna be on your PR list.

And I also feel like we try a lot of celebrity snacks because we're on PR lists. I don't know if I would be so engaged. Yeah, agreed. What is he making? A chip? So he is making a line of kid approved fruit snacks that evolved from his passion for beekeeping.

His fruit snack line is called Bee Up. It's available in three flavors, Very Berry, Tropical Mix and Sour Watermelon. I don't feel like the fruit snack space is over-saturated yet. No, definitely not the specific fruit snack aisle. Like we're good. Like when you go for a fruit snack, what do you go for? What the fuck is a fruit snack?

I go for a fruit roll up. A gusher would be like the toxic version and then like smart sweets would be on the other side, I think. So Ben and I love the red, like wallaby licorice. We do like smart sweets. I love the toxic, of course, fruit roll-up, anything made by like General Mills.

Fruit roll-up, fruit by the foot, gushers, I fuck heavily with. So I guess, yeah, I do participate in fruit snack culture. Yeah, my husband loves like a fruit snack gummy little thing. He loves it. Like people would say, well, like, you know, nerds rope. Ugh, Ben loves nerds gummy clusters. I'm literally, ugh, they love them.

The worst. I will be buying be up to supplant my husband's obsession with nerds rope. This is a celebrity brand I might be sitting out. I'm trying be up to supplant my husband's obsession with nerds rope. This is a celebrity brand I might be sitting out. You know, I don't think that this applies to me. I love David Beckham and I know things have gotten like way worse with him in Brooklyn.

Oh, that's also, there have been a couple of recurring stories that you've missed over the last few weeks. Haley and Justin Bieber, the Beckhams. Baldoni. Baldoni keeps popping up. Like lively. I've never, I actually really miss being here.

And like every time something happens, I like, I'm so like mad that I can't give my thoughts because my thoughts are the best thoughts in my opinion. But every time I see a Baldoni story, I'm like, honestly, thank God I'm on the toes. Like I can't be out here keeping defending myself. Like, you know, I ignore this ones that like I think we are able to-

Because every minutia becomes a story. Right, the ones that have come up in the last few weeks, like you actually have to discuss Taylor Swift, Scott Swift, Scooter. I know. They drop the defamation. Claudia, it's been a dark time. We'll talk about it on Patreon.

Honestly, I don't have the mental fortitude today to continue to defend myself. I just feel like a lot of people are gonna listen to today's episode and I'm gonna repeat my advice that I have for the two of them, which is that you need to meet and you need to drop it. You need to just end this, both like- Why, I feel like it's like the best thing

to happen to Justin Baldoni. Like his name was- I don't know. His name was like effectively tarnished for 35 seconds in December and he will not let it go and he will not rest until every allegation against him is completely dispelled. And he's winning. And he needs to get his stuff back.

Like he needs his agency, he needs his podcast. I still want to talk to that girl. Why'd you jump ship? Desperately, how do you co-host? Why'd you jump ship? It wouldn't be a co-host, it would be a co-roast. Why'd you jump ship so fast? Right.

Anyways, Be Up by David Beckham will be available one day. Somewhere. Hopefully like at Thrive Market, then I'll try it. It's such a Thrive Market product. Is that the sponsor? No. Is that your segue into the second ad break? No, unfortunately it's not,

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cause I can check my phone and I was just checking the family chat and something insane is going down. Let me read it. Don't check, okay? Okay. So this notebook. In our family or in the world?

No, in our family. Okay. So I just opened the chat and there's like six photos of this notebook that mom found. It's like from a million years ago. And on the first page, it says Claudia Oshrey, intern. So obviously this was like a notebook I planned on using

at some internship. The first page, someone else's handwriting. It's Margo. I'm pooping. I didn't bring my phone to the bathroom because it has to charge before dinner and I'm very bored without it. I really hope you didn't need this journal

because that would be very awkward. And then she dated it. January, February, March, April, April 2nd, 2015, 5 p.m. The next page. This was obviously at 7.30, two hours later. Margo, I love this idea. Sorry, I totes love this idea. I'm pooping now also.

Kind of sharp. Wow, how bad is my handwriting? See you next time. Next time was June 10th, so two months later. Margot. She was constipated. OMG, totes forgot about this. I'm having a super seamless poop right now.

Smelly though. Illy, M-G-O. Is that all? No, then the next- Oh no, that is not all. Was July 5th, I wrote, in the dog house. I don't know what that's referencing. Then July 16th, Margo.

She's gonna kill me for reading this. Just began my poop with a ripe fart. Wow, I hope the rest goes smoothly. And then she signs it. Seriously, I hope the rest goes smoothly. And then she signs it. Seriously, this is the funniest fucking thing. Do you recall doing that? Save it. I kind of do.

Yeah, what's the outside of the notebook? Okay, it has a big Twitter. It's obvious, it's a Twitter merch. It's like from our days working in media. Yeah, that sounds right. Yeah. Our next story, something else that big that happened while you were gone,

I'm glad we get to talk about it, is Hailee Steinfeld and Josh Allen got married and now she's revealing all of the magical details about the unverbal wedding weekend. So Hailee Steinfeld has a newsletter called- Yeah, did anybody else think the rollout of her wedding photos was really fucking weird and annoying and it was giving on the J-Lo?

Well, yes. So at first she was giving nothing. Like there was aerial paparazzi photos, but then there was nothing else. No Vogue spread, no nothing. And then Friday, a bunch of pictures came out from like her party planner and like people who worked with her sharing like pictures

from inside the wedding. So this- And then her newsletter is called the Bo society. And then they posted something on Instagram being like, if you see the photos anywhere, like report them. It was just all like really weird. Oh, that's weird. But then, so she shared, she was torn between

wanting to share every detail and wanting to keep them close to her heart. Of course. But she ultimately decided to divulge all the moments that she and Josh can't stop thinking about. Sickening. She said, I'm sitting here with Josh, like her husband, Josh Allen, like biggest quarterback.

The hottest man on the planet, yeah. And we're reminiscing on the best weekend of our lives for the millionth time. Over the past two weeks, random yet specific memories have been popping back into our heads and we've been blurting them out to each other, often through smiles, laughs and tears. No, I fucking love these two and everything.

She looks so sickening. Oh my God. Her every dress, every look, her glam. Everyone's talking about her nails. Like that it was like the best manicure they'd ever seen in their entire lives. Like her fingers were perfect. Like, and you can see the manicure like through the gloves, that glove photo everyone's talking about her nails, that it was the best manicure they'd ever seen in their entire lives. Her fingers were perfect. And you can see the manicure through the gloves,

that glove photo everyone's loving. She's just so pretty and she so doesn't try hard. That's what's so cool about her, right? And she just fell in love with this guy and he happens to be the coolest guy. Everybody loves him in the football space. Everything she does is so cool. The wedding was everything I expected.

And we're like glamor, three looks, hair up, hair down, feathers, couture. I just loved it. I saw a lot of hate being sent to her way for the tent that they got married under. Like people just thought it was ugly. Like the black and white scallop thing. Yeah, it wasn't for me, but like it still looks pretty.

Yeah, like you bitches could never. You bitches could never. That one photo of her that's gone viral of her in her first dress, the sun is in her eyes and so she's just like covering her eyes with her hand. I see it, I see it. Sickening. This is like a celebrity wedding I care a lot about.

The way people like cream their pants for Sofia Richie. This is my Sofia Richie. Like I love these two. No, it's our Sofia Richie of this year. We don't have our wedding of the year yet. To me, this is a front runner. Like last year we had Olivia Coppo, the year before we had Sofia Richie of this year. We don't have our wedding of the year yet. To me, this is a front runner. Like last year we had Olivia Coppo, the year before we had Olivia Richie.

And this year it was a tie between Demi Lovato and Hailey Seinfeld with Hailey eking out a win. I don't feel like it was a tie. I didn't feel like they were even playing in the same league, honestly. I thought Demi looked beautiful. And I love, I love Demi's era of like being just like a normal like Texas tick tocker. She just like makes content. Yeah. Love like love like seriously love that for her. But her

wedding was like, nobody moved. Sorry. She looked pretty, but nobody moved. Um, this is the wedding of the year for sure. Do you think that, and I, Haley Steinfeld is Jewish. Do you think that the tent was a Chuppah? Like, do you think it was a Jewish wedding? Like it wasn't not. Right. That could be a chuppah. I think it was. Like, I think if not, they wouldn't have had that.

Correct. So like, if you are criticizing it, you're anti-Semitic. Correct. And you know they have like a big fucking house in Buffalo because they low key have to live there for like 80% of the year. Yeah, but they got married in Santa Barbara. Yes, which is so pretty.

Yeah, part of Jalish. I loved everything about it, like the dress. And it wasn't even like a high-end designer. I hadn't even heard of the name. Like she just, she got the dress that she wanted. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, no, it was really, really beautiful affair. And I'm glad we're getting the details.

If I was getting married this year, I'd be saving a lot of this to my Pinterest board, especially like the type of photos that they took. Like the wedding styles, maybe not necessarily exactly what I would have done, like flower wise. Black and white and red, yeah. Right, but the photos that they got were so stylish,

but also classic and like trendy too. It was really, it was something. But they're also like models, you have to remember. I know, so obviously like me and Ben's photos, if we copy them, we look so stupid. Me like confused, you have to remember. I know, so obviously like me and Ben's photos, if we copy them, we look so stupid. Me like confused, like squinting. It wouldn't be the same. Believe it's in the professionals.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right about that. Our fifth and final story is some Jewish news because Natasha Lyonne is rumored to play Joan Rivers in an upcoming biopic called Can We Talk? So this is not confirmed, but this feels like it's probably true in the sense of it's happening, may not go all the way, but like definitely these talks are happening.

Natasha Lyonne, five time Emmy nominee, will play Joan Rivers in the upcoming biopic Can We Talk? Currently in development at Sony's 3000 Pictures. So Natasha Lyonne is from Orange is the New Black for anyone that doesn't know. She's also Russian doll. Everybody loves that show, but I don't watch it.

She also went to our high school. Like when you go to the Wikipedia of our high school- Not talking about us, but yeah, she went to our high school. That's why like we can confirm she is Jewish. She's the most famous alum. And I'm still waiting for them to update that Wikipedia page to include us, but okay. It has literally, there's someone like at the UN

who went to our high school, Natasha Lyonne and Leandra Medina of Man Repeller, but also the toast. Like where is our, whatever. It's time. Whatever. I'm sorry. I'll take the Wikipedia. The chip rears its head.

Yeah, we literally can't do whatever's done without the chip. I just want to say, I adore this. There has been, I haven't heard it until right now, so this is my like first time reaction. There's been a lot of of things about Joan rumored. There was the Catherine Han. There's a lot of pressure, and there's always negativity when they cast someone,

mostly from us, because it's such a big role to fill. And then there's also Maisel, which they say was loosely based on Joan. There's Hax, which they say is loosely based on Joan. And I actually think Deborah Vance is a great character to pay, like to pay honor, to pay homage and honor Joan, but it's not a Joan biopic. It's not a Joan show. It's just like loosely based. So they're going to do it at some point. That show, Time Show, like got canceled. There's

been like a lot of drama. I don't know when they're gonna do it, but if it is Natasha Lyonne, it has the dirty stamp of approval, which I feel like when it comes to casting Joan is kind of the only approval you need. Yeah, and it's a hard one to earn because they're very big shoes to fill. We would prefer someone Jewish, but if you had like a non-Jew who would crush,

like I'm open. I'm open. But I do even the side-by-side pictures of them, like I could see Natasha's face morphing into Joan. I'm at faroutmagazine.co.uk. Yeah you are. That's where I am. Yeah you are.

I'm at the far out. Now obviously like you don't think Joan and you think Natasha Lyonne. But Natasha Lyonne is a kind of actress who really morphs. Character actress, yeah. Yeah, it's a chameleon if you will. And she's very like serious. I can see it.

I'm at faroutmagazine.com as well. She's not like, you know, she doesn't star in flops. Like she doesn't star in movies. I feel like community theater. Agreed. Like this means it's getting like the Oscar treatment. Do you know that Joan Rivers government name is Joan Malinsky?

Where does the Rivers come from? I don't know. I'm not shocked. Everyone has a stage name. I'm not shocked. I'm not shocked. and government name is Joan Malinsky. Where does the Rivers come from? I don't know. I'm not shocked. Everyone has a stage name. Oh, Melissa Rivers, the only child of comedian Joan Rivers,

has given Leon official blessing to step into the role. Melissa will also join as a producer on the project. One thing about Melissa, she's gonna produce. One thing about Melissa, she's gonna be there. She's gonna be there. I appreciate her commitment to having her full-time job be Joan Rivers' daughter. And when Joan was alive,

obviously that was a much busier role, but she's booked and busy. Yeah, but now it's the preservation of Joan's legacy, which I do think is a full-time job. And I'm glad that there's someone there to do it. 1,000%. Yeah, yeah. So I think this bodes well. like won't get our hopes up.

It's not confirmed. Cautiously optimistic. But it feels right, you know? Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. And I feel like maybe they put it out there just to like see how people reacted, cause people reacted poorly when it was Katherine Hahn. Katherine Hahn, yeah.

And I feel like the reaction's gonna be positive and they might move forward due to that reaction. Let's do a little Love Island recap. Oh, I forgot. And let me tell you, I don't know if I mentioned this on the birth story, but the second I gave birth, my coccidinia returned in full force. I've never been in more pain in my life

than I am in this moment. So just wanted to let everyone know, like I know I look like a beauty queen, but I am suffering. Love Island, let's go couple by couple, giving our thoughts on everyone. Obviously things are changing, but the kind of name on everybody's lips

is Huda and Jeremiah. Oh yeah. I I fucking hate them. Well, she to me is like a villain of this story. There are a couple of people who I'm like, you're the bad guy. Huda is one of them. But Jeremiah is also like no walk in the park. And he, okay, I have something to say

that I feel is really unpopular and I almost made a TikTok about it, but TikTok leaves no room for like nuance and I would have gotten canceled for it. But, and I want to say that I feel is really unpopular and it only made almost made a TikTok about it. But TikTok leaves no room for like nuance and I would have gotten canceled for it. But and I want to say this and I'm saying this as a mother myself. This trope of people, but it's the references I'm referencing, it's both women going on dating shows and like making establishing connections with someone and then dropping the bomb that they're apparent, which is a beautiful thing, but it is a big thing in a relationship. You know, Jess did it on Love is Blind, Huda, like you're saving it, not leading with the fact

like, yes, I'm a Scorpio, I live in Charlotte and I'm a mom. Like holding it until the person has like started to fall for you. And then I don't love that. I think it's like a very strange. Now I've never been a single parent who's had to date and I imagine it's very difficult and people write you off immediately because they're not interested in dating someone without with kids.

So I'm sympathetic, but I don't think it's a good way to go about dating on a reality show. I agree with you. I would just not directly compare Jess and Huda because I do think like people who go on Love is Wine and Love Island, like it's a completely different type of show.

I think coming on Love Island. They're looking for different things. Coming on Love Island to look for the father of your child like is one of the crazier things that I've ever heard. Also leaving your child for however many weeks, it's a no contact show. They have no idea. I imagine they're letting her talk to her daughter.

But the hoops that she probably had to jump through to get that like it's a no contact show. They're literally on an island isolated. They have no idea what's going on in the world. Like to do that, to potentially, what amazing love match comes from Love Island? Like that's really- Tommy and Molly.

Oh, I'm sorry. I take it all back. Nevermind, control Z. But no, no, no, they're the exception to the rule. Like you might find a boyfriend, like really, have there ever been any liusa weddings? No. So the decision to come on Love Island for that,

like just doesn't seem like Congress with what you are probably actually looking for by coming on Love Island. Love is blind like really is for serious people. Now I agree you should bring it up sooner, but I also love is blind is also about the connection. You're not sharing a lot of that. You're holding back a lot about yourself

to see if the connection's there. Also, Jess can do no wrong in my eyes. So you're not gonna hear me. No, Huda, okay, I wanted to say my favorite part of the season thus far was when Sierra was the new bombshell, the recoupling ceremony happens, everyone's man, Shelly's man or Landria's man, everybody gets up, except for Jeremiah, to put themselves in the running for Shelly's man, Orlandria's man, everybody gets up except for Jeremiah to put themselves in the running for Shelly's choice.

Excuse me, sorry, Sierra's choice. And Huda's like, oh, she's like getting all that, I don't like that, that makes me mad, you guys deserve better. You guys deserve better. And it was very, I believe her intentions were pure, but she was, it was so patronizing. It was like, look, I have a guy who likes me

and none of you guys do. Like you guys deserve what I have. Join me on my level. Like I hated it and the fact that Orlandria was like, girl, we don't need you to do that. Like stop. Huda started crying, was like, you're a mean girl. I'm sorry.

It made me, I've loved Orlandria ever since. It was such an annoying thing. She wouldn't let it go to like Huda. Like, oh, that makes me so mad. Oh my God, I'm never gonna get over this. Oh, you guys need what I have. Orlandria clocking it being like, we're good first of all, like Taylor, I'll survive.

And second of all, like stop. They tried to make her feel bad. And I thought this message ever reaches Orlandria. I need her to know I was thinking the same thing. And I love that you said it. I know, but then when Huda and Orlandria spoke, like Orlandria was like, no, I didn't mean it like that. Orlandria walked it back.

Yeah, she was like, I just meant we'll talk about it later. Like this isn't the time. And I just feel like she should have like dug in and been like, no, you are doing too much. Like you don't need to act holier than now. Orla Andrea saw like that potentially cause you're worried about what people are gonna think. Like she didn't want to be cast as a mean girl.

Well up until- So here's Huda crying and Huda was like, I was just trying to help you. Like she didn't want to be seen as the villain and she automatically undid it. But I believe that was what she meant in the moment. And I stand with her. Up until when what I've seen,

the show is suffering from a lack of girls not wanting to step on each other's toes. Enter Iris. Enter Iris, but even so, they all come in. I'm here to shake shit up. I'm going for Nick and Jeremiah. I'm slipping through the cracks of Jeremiah and Huda. And then she goes to Jeremiah, I'm scared to talk to you.

Right, like Amaya, when Amaya came in during the baseball challenge and she was like, oh, I'm here to shake shit up. Yeah, I have found that like my thoughts on everyone are pretty much aligned with what people on social media think except people were like, Amaya is a queen for demanding more from Ace. We hate Ace, they hate Ace.

I love Ace. I hate Ace, Amaya. I think he's so cute. Literally I shake him and Shelley. I hate Ace. They hate Ace. I love Ace. I hate Ace. Amaya. I think he's so cute. Literally I ship him in Shelly. I can't believe you like him. Wait, I have questioning for you. I have a lot. Amaya fumbled the ball because Ace was dead wrong

and everyone, they started fighting and he was like, these are my boundaries. Yes, the first conversation he was wrong. Don't call me babe. Yes. He was just saying that to push her away because he always wanted Shelly. So Amaya was- Why did he choose her?

Well, that's what I have to ask you, Ace Dan, because he's problematic and he wanted to make Shelly jealous and then Shelly didn't give a fuck. And he was like, oh shit, I have to throw Amaya to the curb. But like, all the- I'm not 100%- I'm sorry, his hibachi, like, I like was in genuine pain watching him try

and try to have a hibachi breakfast. I'm not 100% an Ace Defender. What is hibachi breakfast? I'm not an Ace Defender 100%. I just happen to think he's really cute and sweet and I think he likes Shelly and like I think he- I think he's such trouble. And I hate Amaya, like I hate her.

So the enemy of my enemy is my friend. I just need to know if you're safe and like valid and hating both of them. It's okay, it's nice over here. Ace just has like a really cute smile. I don't know, I just think he's cute. Like I don't- When he's such a liar, he like so gaslit. Ace just has like a really cute smile. I don't know, I just think he's cute. Like I don't- When he's such a liar, he like so gaslit Amaya being like,

these are my boundaries. I don't want to cuddle. Like I'm not going, I'm not going to do that. And then literally five minutes later, licking whipped cream off of Shelly. She obviously doesn't like Amaya. So why would you choose her? But why would you fucking choose her?

I don't know, I don't know. He screwed it all up. Like they should, Amaya, I mean, Shelly and Ace should like be in a couple right now to see if they even like each other. But by the way, I don't think they do. Yeah. No, I think so too. I don't think they do.

I think there's a lack of attraction between a lot of the couples. It's like weird. It's like the, first of all, it's a pornographic show. Oh my God. And all these sexless relationships. It's so weird. Like they, none of them touch each other outside

of the challenges. Claudia, someone is going to pull down someone's pants and give them a blow job in a challenge one day. Huda almost did it to Jeremiah in the leather and lace. I literally thought she was about to give him, but like, where is the line? Like they're seriously having sex. And then when you're talking on the couch, it's like,

I like yoga too. Jackie, I don't know how these people go home and look their parents in the eyes. Like that baseball challenge was horrifying. I'm sorry, the baseball challenge changed me. Yeah, me too, for the worst. And then they'll prepare me for leather and lace, which I thought was also really, really graphic.

And you know when you like watch TV with your parents and there's like a sex scene and you feel weird, like I feel weird watching this with Ben. Like it's literally weird. You should. It's also just extra weird when you think about the fact that like these people have no chemistry outside of the challenges.

Like Alondra and Taylor, like why aren't you guys further along? And I know things are about to change and I'm glad I like Jalen. I'm so happy he's here. So I want a kiss on the mouth, whoever handpicked this bombshell for Orlandria because she deserves better.

Taylor gives nothing to her, to the show. I literally forget he's there, he's awful. And she's such a queen, Orlandria, ever since she clocked Tuta. She's got her head on right. She's got her head on right. She's always giving really good advice to people. And she's like a true friend to a lot of the girls.

So I've been waiting for her moment and they couldn't have picked a better person. Now when those first two man bombshells walked into the leather and lace party, I was like, where the hell did you find these ugly freaks? Like they were set up so poorly in those outfits. To walk in an outfit like that. You seriously look like a male stripper, like not a serious love interest. I was like, ew. Then they both went- Not that male strippers can't be serious love interest.

Of course, of course. But when Hannah started talking to Jaylen, I was like, wait, Jaylen is cute. I didn't, when I walked in, I was like, ew. Like these, both these guys are ugly. But then like when you heard them talk and wear normal outfits, I was like, oh, love this guy for Elandria, Pepe.

Love Jaylen. Like he's so cute. Jaylen is for Elandria. Oh wait, am I mixing up their names? Pepe, love Jaylen. Like he's so cute. And he's- Jaylen is for Elandria. Oh wait, am I mixing up their names? Pepe is between Sierra and Hannah. I loved him with both Sierra and Hannah. I was like- With Hannah and Charlie.

I know, I know. But could you- Even though she just wants to hook up with everyone. She's like self-sabotage. No, she just like, she's, I don't know. She just like wants multiple partners. Like that's why she's here. Like some people are here for a relationship. Some people are here for a hundred thousand dollars. I don't know, she just wants multiple partners. That's why she's here.

Some people are here for a relationship, some people are here for $100,000. Hannah is here to hook up with a lot of people. And I think she's being upfront about her intentions. I find it so interesting because there are people who come on the show, I'm like, oh, you're obviously the best looking guy here, the best looking girl here, and they can't get arrested.

To me, Charlie's so handsome, nobody has looked at him twice. Seriously, I thought he was gonna get voted off. Like, and then it's like when all the guys came and like the very first episode and everybody was like really into one person. I'm like, oh really? I didn't even think he's so cute.

So it's like, my taste is so different from like the younger generations. No, and also their tastes is also different from each other's, which is good. But now like Iris came in and she's so beautiful. So cute. But I feel like no one's really like click came in and she's so beautiful. So cute. But I feel like no one's really like click like all in on her.

Yeah, they're trying to make it seem like her and Jeremiah have something, but even though Jeremiah fucking hates Huda more than anyone, like he never has hated someone so much in his life, he can't quit her. No, they 10 days in are already like that couple that's been together for three years that hate each other but don't know how to break up.

Like they can't have one pleasant conversation. And the reason why that hate each other but don't know how to break up. They can't have one pleasant conversation. And the reason why, I mean, I don't love Jeremiah. I don't really know him outside of his relationship with Huda, which stinks. When they're having those painful conversations, it's her half of the dialogue that really makes me wanna turn my TV off for him.

Cause she's like, First of all, open your mouth. She's finding shit to complain about. Yeah. Yeah. Just the mumbling and this kissing sounds. The two things are going to drive me up a wall. I need to watch on mute. Like I seriously can't listen to it.

And he's just all, he says like, what are you serious? Like he doesn't really say much back. And she's just always complaining. And the conversation that Huda had with Nick telling her that she has a child was top 10 one of the weirdest things ever. Why did she say it like that? She goes, I'm a mommy. And he was confused because what she was trying to say is that I have a daughter, I have a child. And yes, technically saying I'm a mommy is saying the same thing. But he was like, to what? A pet? Like it was so confusing.

And it's like, I'm a mommy. And he's like, mama Sita. Yeah, he didn't get it. And honestly, neither did I. Like it was just so random. You also wouldn't assume somebody who's going on Love Island and is 24 has a kid. So it's like, it's kind of a surprise thing.

So for her not to be like, I have a child, like very clear and distinct made it so weird. And also in the villa, like it could mean so many different things. Like it could mean that like production gave you like a pet baby to look after for a day. I'm a mommy now. Like it's just, I'm sorry.

It was wrong. It's weird. It's not a sentence. Agreed. And it's also weird. And I do actually have a little bit of sympathy for Jeremiah because he's in love with, or falling for this girl.

He finds out that she is a mom. He has nobody to talk about it with because she won't tell. At this point, the whole house should know because any future bombshells that are coming into the villa, they watch a little bit of the show, they know the people, they all know. So now just like the four guys who you know best

in the house don't know. Jeremiah can't talk to his friends. Like that's a very isolating place to be in, to go through like by yourself. He's like a young immature guy. Like I, it's a lot. He needs, and she waited three days. Three days in the villa is 30 days.

It's not fair. No, and that's like back to my point about, you know, saving this piece of information until somebody's fallen for you. It's like, it puts Jeremiah or Jimmy from Love is Blind in like an impossible situation because if they start to, you know, back out of the relationship,

it's obviously because the person has children, which like kind of makes them look like a dick. And that's like not fair because if somebody doesn't wanna date someone with children, like that is a valid thing. Yeah, and I just- But it makes you look like an asshole on TV. I guess so, but I need someone to like get the message to Fiji, like if that is a deal breaker for you

at 22 years old, like we're not mad at you. No, of course it's a valid reason. It's just obviously like an uncomfortable thing to say. Yeah, but with Jimmy, like we are mad at you. Well, yeah, because Jimmy had like other issues. And as it's like, and him and just were such a great connection at the same time, like he was just totally like one over. It was worth working on.

It was worth working through. Because he was thought he was talking to Megan Fox. And also like if Huda and Jeremiah's relationship was like better and happier right now, like it actually wouldn't be such a big thing that she has a daughter. 100 percent. But Jimmy and Jess were so happy. The last thing I want to talk about is also going to be a

really unpopular opinion, but this is my first season watching with Ariana as the host. The last time I watched that girl, the creator, Ariel Vandenberg, is that her name? Yeah. She was the host and now the host obviously is like in one every like seven episodes, so it's not a big deal, but I find Ariana to be like a really strange host.

And I think that the editing helps a little bit, but me and Ben both were like, does this feel awkward to you? Like, and you know, they're adding music and cutting out awkward silences, but like I'm still feeling the awkwardness. Like she's not fully- When did you feel it the most?

And mine was at Leather and Lace. Leather and Lace was not a good showing for Ariana, but also the- Have you been bad boys? Yeah, stop. But also the bad boys. But also the very first episode where they had to kiss to couple up. It was so the awkwardness was so palpable. I could feel it.

And I'm like, what is going on here? And you know that they're helping with the editing. So how much worse it must be in person crickets. I feel that way about every challenge. And I do need to ask you, have you been a bad girl? I want like you guys, the leather and lace challenge like was another cultural shift for me. Like no to me, it was the baseball one.

Like the baseball, you know, and I talked about the baseball one with Oh, Taylor's trucker. Cause I didn't know Taylor's trucker is such a prude. So I was like, Taylor, you have no idea what they're doing on love Island. Like it's seriously disgusting. It would put you into a coma. It would send her. Yeah. Like it's seriously disgusting. It would put you into a coma.

It would send her. Yeah. Like imagine your grandmother watching this show, like horrifying. And I just want to say in our defense, I know we get a lot of shit for not watching last season and of course, like the one season we didn't watch is the most popular, most amazing change the game. They're getting a spinoff show by the way, like the anti-cum-rule style in LA. We don't know who these people are.

I love that by the way. I think it's, it's brilliant. Amazing idea, but it's because it's the one season we didn't watch. We tried to put it on and it was all ass and titties. And we're with our family. Like we could not watch that. Last summer.

Yeah, it was horrifying. Imagine like the chat watching a challenge as a whole family. No Jackie, we're gonna have to like watch and see this summer. Every single night. Also, are we like almost, is it almost over? How, like are we halfway through? We just started. Oh, it, we're gonna have to like watch and see it this summer. Every single night? Also, are we like almost, is it almost over? Like are we halfway through?

No, we just started. Oh, it's just begun. Yeah, I think it'll go through, I mean, I'm just guessing, like through the end of July, at least, maybe into August. I just want to say I'm having the time of my life. And I think that's why it's on Peacock and not on cable because it's pornography.

It can't be on, yeah, agreed. It's pornography by these sexless individuals who have no chemistry. Yeah, and then they cut to the nighttime and everybody's on opposite sides of the bed. It's like, excuse me, you just dry humped this person. Not even dry, wet. That baseball challenge,

like really changed me as an individual. So did leather and lace coupled with Ariana's participation. That's so funny, I didn't have that, maybe I'm just becoming like hardened and inured. The leather and lace like didn't shake me the way baseball did. I just thought it was so crazy.

Like they all have to like go and have sex with their partner like in front of everyone. Partner they don't have sex with and when they sleep in the same bed together. And I don't even enjoy those challenges. The fact that the new bombshells came and they have to hardcore make out with five different people and like each girl has to act like she's,

or I think, or they are so into it, when it's like you just kissed the girl before like this and the girl after. But like- No, Jackie, I said to Ben, like during the baseball challenge, like you going, like a girl going to make out with the first,

second and third baseman, like those guys are making out with each other. It's gay. Like you would, like you seriously, Jeremiah, like making out with somebody who has Nick's saliva, like it's seriously, it's kind of homosexual. Yeah. Well, that, and it also is like, I think a couple of them are like, bye.

I wouldn't be surprised if we start getting some like, I think some of the girls are more into each other than to the guys that I do think a lot of them are like, not attracted to. Of course. I'm sorry, Shelly, like I appreciate you trying to be nice. We know you don't like Austin, like we know. Or Ace, if you liked Ace, like you would be different.

And I don't blame you for not liking Ace and they need to bring in a man for Shelley. But at this rate, like I'm team Austin. And I want to tell Love Island producers, like we don't need those kinds of sick challenges. I actually thought the challenge with the, we get to answer the question or like pie someone in the face or whatever.

Like that was funny when they had to do the briefcases of like, who do you think has slept with the most people? Like getting to know one another. I actually enjoyed those more than the pornographic ones. Yes. And those also start drama because they have to like be a little shady and it moves the plot forward. Baseball move nothing. Nothing.

We had that one thing with Huda and Amaya and it was over before it even began. Leather and lace move nothing. Having the time of my life, can't recommend having a baby enough coinciding with the Love is Blind USA, whatever the fuck it's called. But you could also just like watch,

that's like I watched Love is Blind UK when I was postpartum and it was also a pardgy experience. So Lausa is, I'm loving it, like loving it. Yeah, I like talking to you about it. So I'll keep watching for my job, but don't get confused. I love the tweets. I love the tweets. Like I run to Twitter after the episode ends.

I never get to enjoy the tweets in the moment. Cause by the time I'm caught up, the next episode is- I've ruined it for you. No, no, the next episode is airing and like the tweets are new and I can't read them. Yeah, you are missing out. The tweets are so fun. So I'll be caught up and just don't everything

for one second. I'm watching this like for my personal enjoyment. Oh, the tweets are so fun. So I'll be caught up and just don't everything for one second I'm watching this like for my personal enjoyment. Oh, I am by the way, I'm enjoying every minute. I gotta go, my breasts are engorged. You've been a bad girl? I've been a bad girl who needs to be punished. Guys, I have so enjoyed being back. If any other time slots open up for the rest of the month,

I know you're like so booked, but I, like this is doable for me. So let me know, I'd love to come back. If any other time slots open up for the rest of the month, I know you're like so booked, but I, I, like this is doable for me. So let me know, I'd love to come back. For sure. Things come up. Like you're welcome to come back anytime you want to come up. But like, and right now we have- No, but if someone like cancels. Yeah. Things come up.

You never know, like- Like if someone cancels- Oh, by the way, you are on the calendar for one more day. Oh, is it? Yeah. Is it like the final episode of Jackson Friends? Yeah. Well, that's a good way to end it. Okay. So at least I have that. Yeah. Yeah. So we love you end it. Okay, so at least I have that. Yeah, yeah.

So we love you so much. We will see you tomorrow. Have a par-jelicious day. Love ya, bye.