The Toast - Popcorn-Gate: Tuesday, April 18th, 2023

Episode Date: April 18, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good morning, Millennials, and welcome back to the Toast. Happy Tuesday. Hope everyone's having a great day. We are, because it's another day of Jackson Claude Original Recipe 2022 version of us back in the studio. Jackson Claude wearing new merch. 2023. No.
Starting point is 00:00:14 It's 2022 in 2023? Yes. Is that what you're saying? Like I said it yesterday, and you kind of like didn't get it then, and I don't think you're getting it now. I just, we're so involved that like honestly. To go backwards. I'm not 2022 Jax. I'm not 2022 Jax.
Starting point is 00:00:25 I'm not 2021 Jax. You're certainly not 2022 Claude. Visually like we are in terms of the set up giving old energy. We are except that Vintage.
Starting point is 00:00:38 We are in a sense. I understand what you're saying. The vibe is similar. But we're so new and fresh especially today in our new fresh merch which is our first merch drop with our new logo yes it has also just been a while since we've done a merch drop we wanted to really make this one cute we know you guys love our crewnecks and for summer i'm obsessed with these first of all color wise they're so summery
Starting point is 00:00:59 so summery they're so light they're not like really heavy or i'm not sweating i i love we're coming up with two different um crewnecks i'm wearing the pink one obviously jackie's wearing the teal one the one jackie's wearing has our new logo on the left breast as you can see if you're watching on youtube and then when you flip it around we got our brand new logo but you just hold it in place yeah great logo it's so cute again really thin good material perfect for like you know a cool spring evening it's not like a long sleeve like no it's not a long really thin good material perfect for like you know a cool spring evening it's not like a long sleeve like no it's not a long sleeve these are the same crew necks as the other pink and teal ones we did the sorority sorority yeah yeah and of course we're gonna come
Starting point is 00:01:35 out with a few uh matching accessories like phone cases and mugs and stuff but the merch launch, the official rebrand merch launch is tomorrow. Wednesday the... Thursday. Wednesday. Oh. Wednesday the 19th. I'm more up to speed on these things than I am. Wednesday the 19th at 10 a.m. Eastern Time.
Starting point is 00:01:55 Our website is Toast Merch. All the information will be on our Instagram. So we will never let you forget. But I'm excited. It's been a while. Yeah, I'm excited too. These are such fun sweatshirts. It's been a while since I've had like fresh merch. I like so much of my merch I've worn it to the bone and I
Starting point is 00:02:10 wash it so much that like the pink is no longer pink okay I misspoke Jackie was right you were right I was right yeah no I was I was like I'm for sure right but let me just double check launching 420 Theo's birthday day of the gone it's Theo's birthday merch launch it's Theo's birthday merch launch I'm so sorry it's 420 that's so easy to remember so we won't be counting how many candles for his cake no we will be dropping merch exactly that's what Theo would want 100 because he supports business he's a businessman bow 4 20 10 a.m eastern time um toastmerch.com I'm so excited I'm so excited as well. I'm really excited about the new logo.
Starting point is 00:02:48 I love this teal one. It's just so simple and polished. Do you show everyone yours? Because yours is not. No, so we have two different designs. The ones Jackie's wearing is very much logo. Classic. Classic. The classic.
Starting point is 00:02:59 And this one's more of like a self-expression, if that makes sense. It's more expressive. So here we have Turtie Lou wearing the new The Toast pink slash coral crew neck. She looks gorgeous in it. She's wearing a size large. I, too, am wearing a size large. And I like the size large.
Starting point is 00:03:20 It's actually a really nice large. It's a large that feels like a real large. I agree. It's roomy. Yeah. I love large. I agree. It's like a, it's roomy. Yeah. I love, I can't wear like, people who wear like crewnecks. Fitted. In their regular size, like are truly insane.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Yeah. Well, no, if you, that's what you like, just get whatever crewneck you want. Oh yeah. I forgot we're trying to run a business here. And people who do that are so cool. Like you should all just like buy whatever you want. No, it's a cute, like it is cute when other people do. It's just not cute on me.
Starting point is 00:03:45 No, me neither. No. You know? No. No need to yuck others' yums. But that's literally what I do for a living. It's true. So I'm so excited about that.
Starting point is 00:03:53 I'm just excited to be sitting here with you. Me? Another great show. Another. Great show. We do have good stories. Oh, good. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:00 No TV recap today because there was nothing on last night. Correct? Correct. I've just been reading my book, which is getting pretty good. I like it. Good. And we're just feeling, how are you feeling? I'm feeling like a little agitated.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Why? Could not sleep. My sleep wasn't glorious. Actually, my sleep was pretty crappy. It was probably worse than yours, but I've stopped. But mine was so short. I stopped noticing. Mine was short too.
Starting point is 00:04:20 What time did you go to bed? I went to bed around 11 11 but like sleeping in fits and starts and then harry woke us up at 5 30 why i don't know and he then he went back to sleep but like i didn't uh-huh and then i did go back to sleep from like 7 30 to 8 15 oh that like doesn't count yeah it's something i honestly had forgotten about it until you started complaining oh sorry no i mean i was up from 11 30 to 2 30 like and I was thinking I was trying to pinpoint why I couldn't sleep like it didn't make sense you know I didn't have like anything really particularly on my mind and I didn't drink any soda actually
Starting point is 00:04:57 I can't drink soda after like three o'clock now I'm like a grandma and or like even a snapple like caffeine really hits me and I was like were you hungry not really I had some for dinner I had some steak that I reheated I was talking about my steak yesterday and then I got a little hungry a few hours later and Ben had actually left some fro-yo in the yeah like it was a it was a totally like good meal and then I actually think even after that I had an ice pop I was really hungry But so you were hungry because hunger can keep you up. But like I know when I'm hungry, I wasn't hungry. Like I ate a shit ton, you know. And then I was trying to pinpoint like maybe I took something in the day that was I couldn't figure it out. But I have been experiencing
Starting point is 00:05:37 like I don't even want to talk about it because like it makes me so upset. But like I have been experiencing like like hair loss. You could talk about it. Open up. I really don't want to because like it makes me really upset. And like I actually could cry because the one thing I've had in this life is my hair. I have been ugly. I have been beautiful. Like my hair has always been with me. Like I have been canceled. I have been not.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Like do you know what I mean? Like my hair is always with me. I feel so connected to my hair. Except for that one year in eighth grade when you cut it short. Yes. That was a very dark time. Thank you for bringing that up. That was like actually probably one of the ugliest I've ever been.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Except you were so cute. No. No cute no no okay okay I totally forgot about that oh my god that was really bad why'd you guys let me do that I you know you gotta try new things and the good thing you didn't do it later in life so true when like it actually mattered right so I've just been experiencing like really bad I don't even know what to call it if it's like thinning or shedding basically um like I've noticed over the last like two months, every time I brush my hair or do my hair, it's like crazy. And Ben has had to like snake or train like on a weekly basis because my hair is just like, it's like kind of falling out and people haven't noticed. And it's because I have so much hair and I'm so grateful for that. But like now I just have like, honestly, a normal
Starting point is 00:06:41 amount of hair. Um, and it's just been like giving me terrible anxiety. And so you had the great idea like a few days ago for me to start taking prenatal vitamins I'm not pregnant you're waiting for all the things that you ordered to come and you were hanging out with me and my prenatals were right there and I was like they are great for hair skin and nail growth yeah nails yeah um so it's like just take it while you wait for your other things so that's what I've been doing I've been taking biot of course heard like, and I've gotten so many good recommendations. People, honestly, so many people recommended Nutrafol, which is how I first found out about it. But, um, then last night I was like, Oh my God, did I take my prenatal vitamins too late? Does prenatal vitamins have caffeine? Like I could not figure out why I was being fucking kept awake. No, I take mine at like
Starting point is 00:07:20 11 o'clock. I was like, Oh my God, how did I not think? Of course there's caffeine. Pregnant women need caffeine. No, we like, we can have a little bit, but we would prefer to get it from a coffee. I thought it was like your daily dose of pregnant caffeine. No, no, no, no, no, no. It's like your daily dose of like folic acid. So important to have folic acid. Yeah, for the follicles.
Starting point is 00:07:40 Oh my God. I don't know. I don't know if that's related, but it sounds good. So it's just something I'm dealing with and I've like always just heard of other people I know through you obviously but that was like pregnancy related so it's like much more common yeah um Olivia before she was a mom had experienced bad hair loss and like it was so traumatizing for her and like it was just something I never had to deal with and I kind of like like felt like I was better above it
Starting point is 00:08:01 yeah I felt like I was better than everyone like that wasn't gonna be a problem for me and obviously I know it's because of like I've had a recent you know drastic change in felt like I was better. You thought you were above it. Yeah. Yeah, I felt like I was better than everyone. Like, that wasn't going to be a problem for me. And obviously, I know it's because of, like, I've had a recent, you know, drastic change in diet. Like, I know the reasoning. Yeah. It just fucking sucks. It does. But, like, it should give you solace that the reason is actually a really great reason.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Like, you've lost a lot of weight. So, you know, everything is, like, a give and take a little bit. But it doesn't make sense. Like, I'm so much healthier now. Like, shouldn't my hair reflect that? Yeah I'm eating more nutrient dense food like I'm having salads multiple times a week before when my hair was so thick I had a salad since like 1997 yeah so it just doesn't make sense that's just something I'm dealing with and like honestly I don't want to talk about it because like every time I do I start crying it's just like my hair is so important to me well no one could tell I certainly couldn't tell okay from your actual head of hair and I'm just curious like okay so my hair is
Starting point is 00:08:50 falling out but like why isn't the leg hair falling out you know why does it happen why isn't my bush falling out you know it's so annoying that's why the human body like makes no sense oh I'm having hair loss okay at least I could benefit a little bit from it okay here's the thing though if your leg hair and your bush were falling out also then that would have to mean your eyebrows and your eyelashes were falling out oh straight backs straight backs so i think we should leave things as they are yeah no my like just checking my leg hair is definitely not it hasn't it hasn't okay that's true that's true perspective key key well thank you for opening up turdy you're welcome leave all i'm glad that everyone who has experienced hair loss before you can give
Starting point is 00:09:27 you all their tips and tricks and that you caught it really before anyone besides you and me noticed. Yeah. Like I noticed it, but like I can't, in the beginning it really didn't bother me. Like I was thinking, I'm like, you know, I have so much hair. All right. If I lose a tenth of it, maybe it'll help me like do my hair quicker. But then it got to a point where like when I put my hair up in a ponytail, you can like
Starting point is 00:09:43 see a lot of my scalp and that like freaks me out because that just makes you look like so scary it's okay yeah so that's what I'm dealing with and maybe that was keeping you up no it wasn't actually I actually didn't even think about my hair loss last night I was like so wanting to kill someone also when that could keep you up the anger yes so true it's a vicious cycle um also Ben wasn't home and when Ben's not home like i can't sleep yeah the house was making sounds and i just read this like thriller which one serafina no well i did just read on a quiet street by serafina um but it was tough because i read a book and i didn't like it we were talking about this i facetimed you because i needed advice yeah what do you do
Starting point is 00:10:24 and this is definitely like a niche problem i don't think this is like a relatable thing no it's extremely niche what do you do when you dislike a book and you want to like you know warn others that like you didn't like it or not recommend it and you're like known for your book recs and also like you know there are some books you don't like so you have to share your truth and so what do you do when you want to share that truth but you are told that the author um someone responded to the story right when you posted it saying the author follows you and I'm pretty sure she's a patreon member I don't know how they would know that but then she did follow me so then I was like oh maybe she has a patreon member and I deleted it because and I just want to say it's not reflective of this author I read this book because I loved another
Starting point is 00:11:00 book that she wrote this one was just like silly like it wasn't for me um and I just deleted it immediately and like I don't run into this problem a lot because if an author follows me I think it's because I like their books and then they see that I like them so like Ellen Hildebrandt always just it's always good congratulatory and everyone just patting each other I've never disliked an Ellen Hildebrand book. I've liked others more than some, but what do you do? Is this a problem you run into as a read head? Yes. Not so much that I know for a fact that someone saw something that I didn't like and, you know, it was their book, but I always have it in mind. And I feel like there are some authors who are just like girly swirlies. And then there are some who would literally never know you.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Yeah. You can tell when they're definitely not listening to the toast right so when it's like a book like that I'll give my speak my truth on it but that is why even though I'm pretty you know in the book scene and a book fluencer I'm not trying to like establish authorial relationships yeah because I just want to be able to read books and share my opinion. And that's why you don't have like, you've had authors who like publicists reach out. That's not the whole reason why, but like it's, it's part of it.
Starting point is 00:12:12 But I do actually, I want her to maintain like your integrity. Almost. I would like to have more authors on the redheads. This is something we talked about probably on a Patreon, like to do two episodes a month where it's like, one is the book of the month. And the other is like an interview with either an author or like a fellow
Starting point is 00:12:27 book influencer a big reader there are so many different like facets um i just don't have the time right now but that like if i ever find myself with like more time on my hands and i want to expand and do more like that's what i would do another episode of redheads where like i talk to authors that i like and um just chit chat about books it's so funny how we both have like contingency plans like if we ever if I that's not that's not a contingency no no what I mean contingency plan like for our um extra time oh what's yours start a podcast with Ben like I've been saying that forever but the problem isn't time it's content no no no it really is time especially for ben once a week that's fine i like i actually at this current juncture not being on tour i could i could get it done but what would you talk about
Starting point is 00:13:13 we figure it out no that's not a recipe for a podcast no no we would figure it out like the first we would figure it out like i don't i also don't like when podcasts are so um structured to the point where it's like yes every podcast needs like a niche but I think some people like pigeonhole themselves into that niche so deeply yes but you need a niche otherwise yeah but I think our niche is just like couple-y like fighting like you know what I mean no no I know that that would be like a part of the show but you need a structure otherwise structure yeah of course. You need like a concept. I don't think so, honestly.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Not for Ben and I. You're different? No, no. I think certain certain podcasts and certain people Even we need a structure. Even we need a concept.
Starting point is 00:13:55 And we're pop culture. No, we're Fast Five. Yeah, that's structure. Like that's a segment. It's a concept. Like Ben and I would have segments for sure. It wouldn't just be like
Starting point is 00:14:04 an hour long ramble. Like similar to Good Guys guys what category would it be they ram comedy we'd be competing with ourselves it wouldn't be like relationships is that no because i don't think we would be giving relationship advice like honestly i don't think anybody like needs that and you know what you know i'm so glad you brought that up i don't think you could start another comedy podcast with someone else like that would hurt me oh wow i think that would hurt all right i'd put it in lifestyle okay and society and culture redheads yeah I'll put it in the arts um you just reminded me of something I've been noticing something lately that I just find interesting and I have thoughts on but I would love to get your thoughts
Starting point is 00:14:35 on is there seems to be like a and I think it's similar to the conversation we were just having where people not even in just podcasting but in content creation in general really want to create like niches for themselves so they make themselves like an expert in something and I've noticed like a lot of people gravitate towards becoming a dating expert and they do like Q&A's and they like but you know that that person what makes them sometimes they're even single which not like there's nothing wrong with being single but how the fuck does that make you a dating expert and these people have just kind of like branded themselves there's like a few people who come to mind branded themselves as like the experts on dating and like everything they do is like advice segments and q a's and it's like well why you like what makes
Starting point is 00:15:11 you qualified no what who's more of an expert on dating like these are two extremes like uh extremely single person who has had a boyfriend in let's say 10 years but is going on a lot of dates or someone who got married off of her first date I don't know someone who's only been on a date with one person is she so successful that she's a dating expert I think I'm a relationship expert yeah no and those are extremes and obviously you know it's somewhere in the middle but I do think if you're perpetually single maybe you're not the dating expert or you are because you go on so many dates, but it's clearly not working.
Starting point is 00:15:49 Yeah, no, I don't know. I just find it so interesting. Like so many people have just kind of like created this like, like brand and like market for themselves as like dating. And it's like, well, what the fuck makes you qualified? No, and I'm trying to think who I would take dating advice from. Not that I need it right now, but like who right now you would
Starting point is 00:16:06 I just would have been like in the past right of course you know we at that time it was like patty stanker yeah I think you would lean towards like an older woman because you have like much more traditional like you're very much like chivalry I'm not paying for dinner yeah honestly I wouldn't take dating advice from someone in their 20s. Hot take. Yeah. Or I don't know. Yeah, definitely. I wouldn't even take dating advice from me.
Starting point is 00:16:32 No, I would take dating advice from like someone with kids. No, just someone who's a lit like who like. Sorry, I didn't mean someone with kids. I meant like someone old. Someone older. Someone who's lived who like has wisdom. I just find it interesting. I think there are like eternal dating truths.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Yeah. And people keep trying to reinvent it. But like, I think that there are eternal truths it's so true timeless timeless you're right that is interesting yeah no and I think it's smart I think like for business reasons like they end up working with like a lot of brands for like dating apps and it just it's it's good to have like a thing when you're a content creator who's just sharing their life because you're competing with everyone but if you have like a thing when you're a content creator who's just sharing their life because you're competing with everyone. But if you have like a little small niche, like I totally get it. But I just find it interesting because people do submit questions and seek out advice from this person. It's like, well, why?
Starting point is 00:17:15 Yeah. What makes them qualified? Yeah. Like I think people seek out our advice or not advice, our thoughts on pop culture takes. And I feel qualified to give that. Like I have been a fan of pop culture since I was born. I know everything that goes on on this planet. Oh, not even that.
Starting point is 00:17:31 But just I think more of the advice that we give is like relationship advice to an extent and not so much advice, but just like sharing our experience and then saying and do without what you will. Yeah. But I feel like that's where we sit right now. With your toasters, like we get. But we don't bill ourselves as like relationship experts. No, and we get submissions for like all different types of things,
Starting point is 00:17:51 like hygiene. Friendship. Yeah. We're just giving our thoughts. People, I think, come to us because they might be in a similar stage of life, like newlyweds or married a few years, starting to have kids. And like you just kind of, and if your friends aren't in that place, like you just want, it's like chit chat with your girlies. I don't go to my friends and like you just kind of and if your friends aren't in that place like you just want it's like chit chat with your girlies I don't go to my friends that's it
Starting point is 00:18:07 for like advice necessarily but kind of like commiseration yeah of course maybe that's what it is like maybe people are gravitating towards content creators who are in like a similar life stage as them yeah that's a different thing but then I wouldn't say you're an expert it's just like it feels like a friend but I do feel like that's what influencers are to a lot of their fans sometimes in a really nice way where it's like, we're all going through this. I'm going to do it publicly so that we, like, you feel seen and we're doing it together. I guess a good example of somebody who's done that,
Starting point is 00:18:39 but I think successfully, is like Nick Vile. Like, he wrote a book. Like, he's really, like, becoming like a millennial sort of Patty Stanger ish. But you know, he went like on a dating show multiple times. Like I actually feel like that gives you a resume of sorts. Yeah. Also,
Starting point is 00:18:54 also he's 40. Like he's lived quite, quite a bit. Yeah. And now that he's engaged, it's all good. But also he just gave good advice. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:02 You know, like very rational. So if you give good advice then you can you can do it yeah yeah yeah i just find it interesting but that is a good example but i i would he does give good advice he has like a whole second podcast like with advice yeah like ask nick or whatever yeah so it's just like one of the many things a lot of his audience are women and so he's from the dating show So he's giving a male perspective. That's like.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Yeah, that's his value. That's the hook. That's his value. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. So it's just like one of the few things that were on my mind last night when I couldn't fall asleep. I understand.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Well. What was on your mind? A lot. You know, I kept thinking like, should I pick up my book? Or am I like now dedicating two hours to not sleeping? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? But then I fell asleep.
Starting point is 00:19:47 I can't remember. I feel like I fell asleep with my Kindle in my bed, which like I never do. That is so cute. But I didn't even turn it on. I was just like, just in case. I'm always sitting with my Kindle in my lap, like for hours before I actually like press it. Oh, yeah. Unless I'm in a good book.
Starting point is 00:19:59 But you know, it's a bad book if like you don't press it. A hundred percent. So did you read while you were up? No, I had. I read the whole night like and then I finished my book at around like 10 30 and tried to go to bed at like 11 30 and it was just torture I'm sorry I hate not being able to fall asleep like there there are a few it's like a living hell it's like a purgatory there's nothing else going on at some point like
Starting point is 00:20:20 your phone kind of dies down there's nothing online like worth watching you shouldn't be on your phone and I really wasn't you didn't look at it once no I looked at it a few times you shouldn't have but like I was taking like 30 minute breaks in between like 30 minutes if you're not falling asleep no but you're you're like counteracting all of the relaxation you're doing I know it's annoying but it's literally like and I did two things like telling your brain hey bitch I'm awake I did two hatch restful like I's good. Like I did a guided meditation. And I took a lavender, trip through a lavender field. Did that help? No.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Okay, well it wasn't your night, Turdy. It wasn't my night. But today's a new day. No need to focus on the past. Today has. Where'd you get that coffee? I made it. Where?
Starting point is 00:21:02 Here. With the Starbucks. And you have all those like things here? Well, I grabbed a cup of ice From the bodega From downstairs Your people Yeah
Starting point is 00:21:08 Your favorite Why are you like What's with the I don't know Third degree Because I like Kind of went out of my way To get a coffee
Starting point is 00:21:14 And then like You kind of show You didn't ask if I wanted one? No You wouldn't like it And you show up Like with a coffee That looks really good
Starting point is 00:21:20 And I know you didn't Go out of your way for it No So I was just wondering Like where it came from It's store bought iceought ice with homemade coffee. In a cup from? The store-bought ice.
Starting point is 00:21:31 Oh, oh, oh. They gave me the cup. What is with the third degree? I just like to know what you're up to. Things have changed around here since I've been back. You know, since you left. Yeah, since I left. And that's what happens.
Starting point is 00:21:42 You leave people and they're forced to change and grow. Good. It looks good. You have a nice cup of coffee. Yada welcome And that's what happens. You leave people and they're forced to change and grow. Good. It looks good. You have a nice cup of coffee. You gotta welcome. That's what happens. You gotta welcome. That's what happens.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Force you to grow. That's what happens. I don't see the problem. That's what happens. Good things are happening. That's what happens. Great things. All right.
Starting point is 00:22:02 What do you say? Yeah, let's get into it because we have some more debating to do in today's story oh yes i'm very excited there's like one story i'm sure everyone has seen it or if you haven't you will that's really like it's dividing the nation i was reading comments i i wanted i am inexperienced it's about motherhood so like it's later in the show it's the story about like a jesse james decker's sister which is just like an added layer on the plane with the because it's not about jesse james it's about this mlb a Jesse James Decker's sister. Which is just like an added layer. On the plane with the popcorn. Because it's not about Jesse James. It's about this MLB player's wife.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Yeah. It depends what publication you're reading. People Magazine, Jesse James Decker's sister. New York Post, Blue Jays pitcher's wife. On the plane with her kids. And what happened next. And it's ensuing a lot of passionate responses from people. And I think I'm excited to have this conversation with you.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Me too. So without further ado, here are the fast five stories that you need to know. That is true. Before I say the stories, I have something to say. Wow, the tables have turned. Because I want to let you know that today's episode is brought to you by Dreamland Baby. It's also pronounced Dreamland Bebe, but whichever you prefer. I read that in the company guidelines. So I want to introduce you to a product that over half a million parents, including me, use to help their baby sleep.
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Starting point is 00:26:21 is really about sleep. Why? Because of your whole Yeah, no, I then the two sleep sponsors no i'm just saying like i thought that was a segue like our whole intro segment was like a segue about better sleep if only we like knew and like acted like that like wasn't you know it wouldn't have been as good it's organic yeah and now you know like we prioritize sleep and these are two sleep products that we love i thought we had a story like uh no about sleepiness maybe we can make something about sleep but I actually am moving the stories around so I'm gonna talk we're gonna talk about the plane story okay good right um nothing else is like that crazy so Jesse James Decker reveals
Starting point is 00:26:57 her pregnant sister cried as she was made to clean her kids's mess on a flight so this whole story started a few days ago when Anthony Bass who is an MLB player posted a tweet it's a picture of his two kids they're five and two he said the flight attendant at United just made my 22 week pregnant wife traveling with a five-year-old and two-year-old get on her hands and knees to pick up the popcorn mess by my youngest daughter are you kidding me and then people started responding like a lot of the comments are like clean up after your kids right um then jesse also posted an instagram story saying my sister sydney ray bass just texted me from her flight on united as you know she is five months
Starting point is 00:27:36 pregnant high risk and also traveling alone with her two small children blair accidentally spilled some popcorn in the aisle and the flight attendant came up to Sydney with a trash bag and a wet wipe, telling her the captain wants Sydney to clean up every drop. My poor sister is on her hands and knees crying in the aisle, completely humiliated and exhausted with her children while everyone else watched. Way to go, United. And then she also said, if popcorn is a hazard, why are they giving it on planes? Y'all, this is just because apparently the flight attendant told Cindy that the popcorn in the aisle would be a hazard. Also, if it's anyone needs to know the.
Starting point is 00:28:11 United, the flight gave the popcorn to the kids. They didn't bring their own popcorn. So there's so many different layers here. And of course, I do defer to you. And that's why I sent the story in our family chat, because at first I was like you know yeah like clean up after your kid like yeah um but then I thought about it more um and this is so like not the point but I do not really understand why like a woman of means like your husband plays in the MLB like doesn't have a nanny and now not that I'm saying everyone should have a nanny but it's like
Starting point is 00:28:42 you're so worried about your pregnant wife traveling with two kids why don't you pay someone to fly with her husband that was just an additional thought I had not my core argument no and the only reason we're hearing about this story is because he's in the MLB and he tweeted about it but this could be any lay person I think a lot of people were turned off by his tweet because it's like all right well you play in the MLB like you have extraordinary means like why is your high-risk pregnant wife flying alone without you with two kids like maybe you someone should help her like I guess but that didn't even occur to me like I think it's nice she's fine with the two kids she's like doing it all and I think it a lot of people have the question like who cleans up the plane yeah and it was my understanding that a cleaning crew comes in
Starting point is 00:29:24 between each flight yes and cleans up the plane you know a little vacuum i've seen them they they do and they do a great job a little vacuum yeah bare minimum bare yeah it's not you know five stars but they get the plane clean right they rearrange they wipe some things down yeah i think i would assume they wipe down all the surfaces like the tray tables they vacuum the floor because everyone adults i don't think they wipe down every tray table especially since they couldn't handle a couple pieces of popcorn okay they everybody leaves a mess adults too right so yes there is a cleaning crew although I did see and I don't know if this is verified at all I haven't seen what you're about to say anywhere okay well I did see it but it was just in a comment so I don't know if it's true that this was a um United like one
Starting point is 00:30:03 of those really small flights like united actually doesn't operate it always says like operated by sky west you know or republic airways um and those really small regional flights actually don't have cleaning crews come on the flight attendants clean the flight okay i don't know if that's true here's a picture of the plane seats it's a two yeah one side looks like a regular plane two no two on one side is like that really small regional plane it's usually three yeah no but like not really small not really small okay whatever i think it's irrelevant hundreds of dollars for a seat on a plane is irrelevant i believe i thought of this time
Starting point is 00:30:36 you're paying for all of the services including like entering on a clean plane and having a plane cleaned after you the idea it's not like she vomited in the middle of the aisle. It's popcorn. It's a couple pieces of popcorn. So this woman is traveling. She's pregnant. She has two kids. Even if she was just pregnant,
Starting point is 00:30:51 to make her get down on her hands and knees. What happened to decency? It used to be if someone's pregnant, and I haven't even seen so much pregnancy disrespect, but you give up their seat for them. You don't then make them get on their hands and knees and start picking up pieces of popcorn. Either leave the popcorn there or help her.
Starting point is 00:31:06 Right. And I don't know what the laws in the sky are. And it's entirely possible. Yeah, it was her responsibility to clean up after her kids. But to me, if you're a half-decent fucking human being, and you're a flight attendant, you just help the pregnant lady who's traveling. Maybe it's not in your job description. I don't know what the bylaws of United. maybe it's not your responsibility to clean up after this kid
Starting point is 00:31:27 no i don't think it's the flight attendant's responsibility so even if it's not but you're like a a decent person you just fucking help right or like you're okay so the popcorn's in the aisle it's a hazard kick it to the side with your shoe yeah like i don't know it's not again it's not like the kid had diarrhea and it's like they're treating this plane like it's the louvre and it's just it's a fucking plane and people are disgusting on planes and it's a kid yeah who's two years old you gave her popcorn and she drops them on the floor what did you expect first of all right yeah and I think you know being dramatic and saying the captain says it's a hazard well if it's such a big safety hazard you know a flight attendant's number one
Starting point is 00:32:01 priority and responsibility is safety they always say that in the little message before you take off so if it's really such a big deal then it actually it would land on you yeah i just feel like a lot of people are debating like well who's responsible and it's like well maybe it's not who's responsible because i don't know who's responsible but like who could have a heart yeah like just fucking help this woman it's like the same way when you get on a plane if you're a pregnant woman traveling with two kids and you need help putting your bags up, like people come and they help you. Yep, yep. And sure, it's your responsibility to be able to handle your kids' bags.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Right. Sure, but like we're human beings. A hundred percent. Sometimes you can just like do something helpful. Right. For no reason other than. And take the load off of someone, especially like when it's a pregnant mother. No, totally. like we really lost
Starting point is 00:32:47 sight we did I think the reason why people lost sight and this is what I was trying to say before is because like the tweet came from somebody like in a position of wealth and power so nobody's inclined to feel bad because like there were many things that like this person could have done to avoid a situation like this that other people can't do so I think if this had just been like a regular person saying this story not like a famous wealthy person I don't think they're like that famous no but they have means okay you play in the MLB like you you're fine really yeah I don't know I've never like let's see his contract he signed a two-year five million dollar contract with the Marlins yeah like just okay just like hire some help for your wife um but so I think that's why people are having the
Starting point is 00:33:32 current debate that they're having not the comments like I was reading the comments from Twitter and also like some news publications posted on Instagram so I was reading on the comments and all the comments were like clean up after your kids it's not our problem to clean like and it's like, it takes a village to raise a child, like help, get up, make a pregnant woman,
Starting point is 00:33:49 get on her hands and knees to pick up some pieces of popcorn. Again, like it's popcorn. Yeah. We'd be having a different conversation if the kid like crapped on the floor. Like that's sorry, mom,
Starting point is 00:33:57 that's on you. Like that is, that is disturbing to the entire plane and the whole environment. And like, yeah, that's a problem. It's like they went out of their way to like torture this woman because the popcorn plane and the whole environment. And like, yeah, that's a problem. But it's like they went out of their way to like torture this woman because the popcorn probably wasn't bothering anyone. It didn't smell.
Starting point is 00:34:11 It's not a fucking hazard. Let's be real. Okay. So they went out of their way to like humiliate this person. Yeah. And I was thinking, you know, not that it's on anyone else, but like, why didn't anyone around? Like if I saw a pregnant woman on her hands and knees,
Starting point is 00:34:26 like, I would get up and help her. Like, as a passenger. Yeah. And nobody did. Yeah, I mean,
Starting point is 00:34:32 sometimes you don't know what's going, people have their headphones on. that's true, you're not paying attention. Please, people like, watch people get murdered
Starting point is 00:34:37 and they film it. Like, they're gonna start getting up to help clean up the popcorn. Yeah, yeah, that's true, those facts,
Starting point is 00:34:42 yeah. So, I don't know, I think it's a little, you know, a little bit of a power trip. It is a little bit of a power trip. To like stand over and watch is like, let's just call it a spade a spade. This woman's a fucking bitch. Like, she's a bitch.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Maybe she didn't have to help, but she should have. And I don't think you get into flight attending if you're not a people person. And this woman's clearly like a bitch yeah also I'm not sure that the flight attendant was a woman oh actually that's like kind of a really good point I feel like a woman like wouldn't do this yeah might have more they just kept saying do they not use pronouns when no the flight attendant the flight attendant attendant. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah. Does it change the story?
Starting point is 00:35:29 No. No, but I would like to know. I'm just curious now. I don't know what makes it worse or better, if it's a man or a woman. I guess if it's a man, it makes it worse. Yeah. No, but then if it's a woman, it's like you're being betrayed by your own gender. No, but like men should help women.
Starting point is 00:35:44 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. betrayed by your own gender like men should help women yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah like if a female flight attendant didn't help put the bag up i wouldn't be as like and it was just like watching as opposed to a male yeah not helping i'd be like help no that's a really good point yeah yeah yeah there's so many layers there's yeah no there's a lot of like facts people want to know they're like where did the popcorn come from How old was the kid how far along is she What was she wearing Right no it's Could you tell she was pregnant
Starting point is 00:36:10 You know I was thinking that too I feel like you could She's 22 and she's like a small girl And like if you see her like Instagram She's visibly pregnant Got it It's a very interesting story And I was reading a lot of people's takes Because honestly I was like popping visibly pregnant got it yeah she's popping hmm it's a very interesting story and and and I
Starting point is 00:36:26 was reading a lot of people's takes because honestly I was like and I called Brian I was like you're like the expert because I was so curious I'm like what is the protocol here because like who's worth like whose job description is it honestly is it on you know the passengers to tidy up before they leave like I don't know it's like is it how like it's like a hotel it's not on you to clean up like you know that's the service you're paying for so Brian like hadn't heard really that much about it and people have been asking him to make a video and he's like I need to do my like I need to he didn't want to speak he needs to answer these questions yeah yeah so he needed to research before but I really want him to speak on it because he's like he's an
Starting point is 00:36:58 expert he's also a parent I feel like he would have a really unique perspective. Not even unique, a well-rounded perspective. Yeah. But like whose job is it in that scenario? I don't know. I don't know. And I think, I don't know that it's anyone's responsibility. And even the person who's, she's responsible to clean after her kids. Like you can still help, even though it's not technically your responsibility.
Starting point is 00:37:21 I definitely feel like in terms of flight attendant culture that I've kind of just been an observer of in the last couple of years. I know like the priority of being a flight attendant is you're there for the safety. There's also an element of service.
Starting point is 00:37:33 And I do also, I feel like the service element has become smaller and smaller in the sense that like I'm afraid to ask for a drink. Like when they come over with the card, they just like,
Starting point is 00:37:43 they shove it in your face like they're doing you a favor. I didn't ask. You came over here to ask me. If you're like falling over with the card they just like they shove it in your face like they're doing you a favor I didn't ask you people were here to ask me if you're like falling asleep and like you don't want to miss it you're like wake me up yeah it's my one chance it's like when you think of how far we've come from like the flight attendants of Pan Am right to the flight attendants of today where it's like you're really lucky to get a drink and like you get like a you really don't even get a smile like you just get like a knowing you're paying hundreds of dollars that is no no you're paying thousands like flight prices are so crazy a given the current economy and b just they've gone up yeah like you you're lucky to get out of this country for under 500
Starting point is 00:38:17 like it's ins i mean out of the country out of the state for under 500 like it's the prices have gone up in every element of service like every small luxury that you like it's just gone yeah it's gone yeah but i i thought that the cleaning crews were still there especially because of coke because it's like a basic fundamental because of covid yeah you're not cleaning your planes right right right don't make me call the cdc tsk you had a mask mandate for over a year but you don't clean your plane it's a good point so i'm i'm just i'm just perplexed. That's all I'll say. Yes. Sound off in the comments.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Respectfully. Especially because, no, a lot of our listeners are flight attendants. Flight attendants and mamas. Right, right, right. And so what do you think? But I'm thinking about it like, sometimes I'm at a restaurant with Harry and he throws food on the floor. I was thinking of restaurants too. He throws food on the floor and like, I'm going gonna get to pick it up because like I feel bad and someone will like come and even sometimes it's like the
Starting point is 00:39:09 waiter waitress and they'll pick it up before I get to it and it's so nice and I'm like oh my gosh thank you so much and even if they didn't do that like I would eventually I'm not gonna go after every crime like you know maybe at the end I'll go and get everything I've seen Olivia do that but if someone like came over with a bag and a tissue and like stood there on my hands and knees and like told me to do it now in front of a restaurant full of people like that would be humiliating. Yeah it would be humiliating. It's wrong.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Yeah. I think I'm very much like yeah like you're responsible for your kids for sure. But like it's wrong. It's there's no reason to humiliate someone especially someone who's just doing their best right and i don't know i just feel like we all just could help like this we can still help people you know right just because it's not your responsibility doesn't mean you can't help yeah it's not your like like you said it's not your job to help someone with their bags even if helping just means scooting it to the side with your foot and saying captain it's out of the aisle yeah like i don't know i'd love to hear
Starting point is 00:40:05 from the flight attendant yeah because again it's important to note like we are getting the family side of everyone's perspective is different right so it's entirely possible like it wasn't buckets and buckets of popcorn it was rising in the right in the aisle and people couldn't walk through so i maybe maybe the flight attendant has like a totally different perspective inside of the story yeah like maybe they were fucking rude you know what i mean like right you never know maybe they were terrible passengers i'm not saying that they were like maybe she didn't help for a reason you know well she was asking for it no i'm not asking for it but like the kid the two-year-old
Starting point is 00:40:39 was asking for it like maybe these people had been rude and terrible and yelled and by people you really just mean the mom the mom because the kids are kids i'm not saying by the way she probably wasn't i'm just saying we only are getting one half of the story because everyone's version of their truth is their truth yeah yeah yeah so i would like to see the flight attendant come forward i would absolutely love a sit down she's welcome on the toast or he or he okay well that's the big debate of the day yeah no and please i would like to hear i'm not a mom so again like i but i have traveled with a child and it's fucking hell on it's the worst anybody can like help you not make your time harder like that's what you should
Starting point is 00:41:16 be doing yeah it's i have so much respect like just moms need more respect and more help and sympathy yeah not on their hands and he's pregnant even if she wasn't pregnant and she was just a mom with two kids it would be better help it would be better it would be better but even if she was pregnant didn't have the two kids about the pregnant thing makes it is probably the worst part of it because to make someone physically who's when you're pregnant you're not at your physical uh no but flexibility best flexibility you're pregnant you're not traveling with kids and you make a mess and it's you're an adult it's your mess to clean up i still think someone should help like you're pregnant you can't bend
Starting point is 00:41:56 yeah like her getting on her knees and i'm not saying that's right but i'm just saying that's what the comments would say clean up after after yourself pregnant wench. Right. No, I don't know. So the whole thing just confounds it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And makes it. Just bad. Just bad. Not a good look.
Starting point is 00:42:13 I wonder how United will handle. I don't know. They're not like getting that much backlash because a lot of people are being like clean up after their kids. Yeah. So that's that on that. Interesting. Are you ready for our next story? Another business that's being blasted by Tom Sandoval.
Starting point is 00:42:28 Yes. Tom Sandoval blasts the wellness resort Miraval for outing his stay. So we reported yesterday that Raquel checked into a mental health facility. Claudia said she thought it was Miraval, which is just like a spa retreat in Arizona. Right. And then some drama went down between Tom and Miraval which is just like a spa retreat in Arizona right and then some drama went down between Tom and Miraval so he claimed that Miraval Arizona fed into negativity and spectacle in his life by posting an Instagram photo with a caption that seemingly referenced his affair drama
Starting point is 00:42:57 they posted a picture of their bar and the caption is you know that it's our time these are the best days of our life so it's like that's the theme song from Vanderpump Rules. And they posted that while he was staying at their facility. Right. He said, I'm beyond disappointed. And I guess it was rumored that he was staying there. Like they were, you know. Speculation.
Starting point is 00:43:15 In the internet chatter. Yeah. I'm beyond disappointed in Marival and their decision to pose to their Instagram account this weekend. Are you okay? No, he's not okay. He said pose to their Instagram. No, he Are you okay? No, he's not okay. He said pose to their Instagram. No, he didn't.
Starting point is 00:43:28 The transcriptionist did. I'm reading his words. I'm beyond disappointed in Marival, at Marival, and their decision to post their Instagram account this past weekend alluding to me staying there this week. They claim to be a refuge for wellness and betterment, but that is obviously false. They'd rather feed into the negativity and spectacle
Starting point is 00:43:43 that has engulfed my life. In a continuous effort to be healthy and work on myself i planned a trip to go there completely alone to try and find some peace marival clearly isn't the place for that special shout out to the general manager who refuses to take any responsibility for the actions of his team even though he considered the post quote in poor taste regardless of where you stand in all this we all deserve the chance to work to be better I don't know that you're like I don't know that you're working at Mirabal yeah no no the thing is like this is just a bad look for Mirabal like it's so petty it's it's not only petty like he's a paying customer like you have are have a right to privacy no matter who you are and this is like actually really tacky and like I don't care because like
Starting point is 00:44:25 I hate Tom Sandoval but like it's not it's not he's not wrong no he's not wrong I don't think it bodes well for like other celebrities who would want to go there and then it's like oh they'll blast it and also it's not like it was front page news that he was staying there this was sort of like internet chatter so it's like you're posting to your Instagram like it's not like the whole world is talking about Tom Sandoval at Marival I had no idea he was there and I'm pretty clued in yeah so like you're what like posting Instagram rumors to your account and you are like this high-end wellness brand and you're joining in on an internet pylon at a time when like nobody needed to hear from you no and it's like somebody went to your facility to seek refuge refuge. From an internet pylon.
Starting point is 00:45:06 And your brand. Then decides. To join in on that pylon. Like it is. This is like. Really tacky actually. Yeah. I think it looks really bad.
Starting point is 00:45:13 For them. And I think even people. Who are not. Who are not team Santa. And you know. You could never confuse. Turdy and I. As being anything.
Starting point is 00:45:19 Other than. Team Ariana. Yeah. Even before. The affair. Like we would just. Never find ourselves Like defending
Starting point is 00:45:26 Santa and I'm not But like If I'm a celebrity Choosing between Two wellness retreats I'm certainly not Going to Miraval Knowing that like
Starting point is 00:45:33 My privacy Might be compromised Yeah it's really tacky And again Not even a celebrity Like a lay person Anyone It's like a wellness
Starting point is 00:45:39 So it's not This isn't a mental Health facility Because if it was There are like HIPAA And there are these Regulations in place So that things like this don't happen which just further proves
Starting point is 00:45:48 that Raquel is like actually not even close to being at any sort of like actual mental health facility she's going to you know so they're both at Marathon that's what I was confused about as well story but he said he went alone and he's back already I think and she just went so maybe he like when he said oh this was really good for my mental health and then she went and then highly recommend and then her rep lied and said she was always going right and called it a mental health facility which we speculated yesterday and now we know like that is extremely misleading it's misleading but not a lie like a mental health facility could be a lot of things could be your house yeah no when when I think of mental health facility like I do think of things. Could be your house. Yeah. No, when I think of mental health facility,
Starting point is 00:46:25 like I do think of like a sterile kind of. A mental institution? Yeah, like a psychological. I don't know what the right word is for it these days. Like what? Like a psychiatric treatment facility. Like a hospital. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:41 She didn't go to a hospital. That's what. Even if she didn't go to Miraval. She didn't check herself into. That's what it sounds like when you say a mental health facility. Honestly. But when you break down the words mental health facility. It can be anything.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Yeah of course. So it's a. It's a manipulation of language. Yes. Which is what I guess what a good publicist would do. Right. But we're here to break it down. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:01 So in regards to this Miraval thing. Like I actually do agree with Sandoval. Which is not something I thought I would ever say. and like it just it's really like it's tacky it and it's just illusory because it's like you dunked when like no there was no game being played like no one even knew he was at mirror ball like no one was talking about you and now we're talking about you in a negative light considering what your brand is like if you're if this was I don't know secrets resort and Tom and Ari and Raquel were rumored to be there actually would it be like an amazing partnership continue right and they were like they posted a sexy bar you know that yeah I'd be like okay it's on brand yeah no but to like exploit where someone's like
Starting point is 00:47:42 really trying to use your facility For it's like Wellness elements Like No and also like You Marival tries to Position themselves As wellness Right that's how
Starting point is 00:47:50 They brand themselves As like this kind of Like retreat-y It's not like a hotel Or really a spa It's this They went there On Real Housewives
Starting point is 00:47:58 Like you do sound baths And like trauma treatment Like it's It's you know Very guru Woo woo Yeah woo woo woo woo Yeah Agre agreed so that's an L for them it's it's not a win for Sandoval by any means but um an L for them yeah our next story is a little more
Starting point is 00:48:16 pump news because Ariana Maddox is single and having fun including canoodling at Coachella after her split from Tom. The Vanderpump Rules star Ariana was spotted kissing a new man over the weekend at Coachella. A source tells People all just for fun. A source said Ariana just got out of a long relationship and isn't jumping into anything serious. What you're seeing is a woman who is single and having fun. She was featured on an Instagram story spending time with a fitness instructor Daniel Way he also tagged Ariana in a selfie of the two of them waiting for Frank Ocean's headlining performance then TMZ shared a video of the pair kissing during the headliner show yeah I saw that on TikTok it was like so cute he's very handsome I'm sure this is not like the you know end all be all love of her life but like
Starting point is 00:48:59 you'd love to see her out here having some fun and I also feel like tell me if you feel this call you know obviously ending a nine-year relationship is probably like one of the hardest things that you can do um and takes a really long time to get over that person but when the entire world like every day is like like hating on the guy who like broke your heart and like makes like doesn't it make it easier for you to get over him like I feel like she's probably like really over Tom. I feel like also when the bridge is so burned to a crisp, there's no, well, maybe he'll change. Like, it's so crystal clear what happened and that there's no going back. Like, you can only go forward.
Starting point is 00:49:37 I don't think she needs to. You could spend time. I think probably the hardest thing for her is like the habitual habitual nature of their relationship like the house living together living together him being you know her best friend and co-workers and all of those things they were doing everything together so I think that part's harder but I think the romantic piece that's probably the easiest part to move on from right especially because she probably wakes up every day and like goes to her phone and there's just like memes and shit being written about her man. Like make him look so bad and stupid and ugly.
Starting point is 00:50:08 Like I don't thought I just have a hard time believing she could be like longing for him. You know, it's harder to imagine Raquel still being attracted to him than it is to imagine Ariana moving on. You know what? It's actually not hard for me to imagine Raquel being attracted to him because they literally have nobody else. Like they're on this island together that they created like if you're not gonna love him like who the fuck are you gonna talk to yeah nobody else still has I would hope like her friend like her home friends real friends and you know they say we know the real Raquel yeah no for sure for sure but in terms of this group and people who really understand what's going on like there's
Starting point is 00:50:40 literally one person she can talk to you know know? Yeah. And he's the worst. Oh my God. Yeah. So glad I'm not Raquel. So anyways, that's really cute. I don't think it's too soon. I think she could do whatever the fuck she wants. No, I don't think it's too soon.
Starting point is 00:50:53 Are people saying that? Yeah, I think some people were saying that. People are the worst. Yeah. It's literally not too soon. No, and it's certainly not too soon for like a dance floor makeout at a festival. Right. It's not like, you know, a romantic getaway. Right,'re like and even if it was i think that's fine too but like you can have
Starting point is 00:51:10 in your you know breakup era a dance floor make out yeah it's really not a big deal no look at sean and camilla right like it's just not that serious sometimes and it's coachella like you know it's coachella like whatever it's the vibes are vibing right that's so us it's Coachella like you know it's Coachella like whatever it's Coachella the vibes right vibing right that's so us it's kind of like Vegas like it doesn't count what happens at Coachella ends up on TMZ right right but how exciting for her like she's so fucking famous now yeah and she was kind of like for always just like a kind of beta cast member she never really threw her hat in the ring That deeply Yeah She was always involved In stuff like Because of Tom
Starting point is 00:51:46 And she kind of gets To come out on the other side Of this like The biggest star on the show Everyone is obsessed with her And she's a full blown celebrity Honestly They did her a favor
Starting point is 00:51:55 To be honest Well they definitely Did her a favor For a multitude of reasons Our next story Is a little more Coachella news But I think Turdy
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Starting point is 00:55:22 For all. Oh. For all. For all. For all. For all the codes and all the links that'll save save save save save save save save save save save save save codes and links that will save that was so ben's offer that was so good really you really could have headlined coachella unlike frank ocean shots fired unlike frank, who jolted Coachella Festival with an aimless WTF headlining set. In other words, his set was not good.
Starting point is 00:55:52 People are so mad. Yeah, so news has been like trickling out about this. So first we have a recap of the set and what was seen and then some explanation from Variety. So Sunday night's Coachella headlining performance by the enigmatic R&B star Frank Ocean was unquestionably the most highly anticipated set of the festival the singer has not performed live in nearly six years and he was set to headline the fest in 2020 before the pandemic
Starting point is 00:56:13 and then again last year before he postponed it to 2023 so there were rumors of new music coming out who he was going to potentially bring on stage old bandmates, etc. And what they got was not that. It was very short. None of this came to pass. In fact, his set, during which he and his musicians were intentionally obscured by a cadre of people walking in a circle around them, only seen on video projected on custom screens
Starting point is 00:56:37 even more massive than those usually flanking Coachella's main stage. It was messy, loose, and a near disaster that will likely go down as one of the most divisive in coachella history with flashes of brilliance that only made for a frustrating final outcome that of disappointment and palpable audience what the fuckness right i saw a video when he ended the show he was just basically like oh i'm being told we're at curfew so show's over bye he started the set a full 57 minutes after its advertised start time which eats into curfew time for the venue. So then that cuts off minutes on the tail end.
Starting point is 00:57:08 The first five minutes were comprised of people silently walking in a circle, leading people to wonder if he was even going to appear at all. Then his voice came through and he sounded really good, but it was impossible to see him behind the wall of walking people. This scavenger hunt for the headliner would continue throughout the set. Even after the wall of people left, he and his band were too far back on the stage, too obscured by the screens.
Starting point is 00:57:29 There was just a small opening for the actual stage and too poorly lit from the lack of stage lights for anyone but the most perfectly placed audience members to get more than just a cursory glance of the musicians. There were a lot of pauses, a lot of what are we doing next. I saw a bunch of clips. I saw literally his music playing Like on an aux cord
Starting point is 00:57:46 And him just standing there Like I didn't even He wasn't even singing Yeah So here's what They said happened Okay Why was it such a mess
Starting point is 00:57:55 So he was supposed to Apparently have an ice rink Yes On the stage And they were rehearsing it Like that for weeks And the days leading up To the festival
Starting point is 00:58:03 And then I think on Sunday They had to change They got rid of it They got rid of it like that for weeks and the days leading up to the festival. And then I think on Sunday, they had to change. They got rid of it. They got rid of it. So that wall of people walking around and were meant to be ice skaters. But they just turned into walls. They just transferred the choreography from ice to not ice.
Starting point is 00:58:16 Yeah, it was supposed to be an elaborate stage production involving an ice rink and a battery of skaters. It was constructed, rehearsed for several days and ready to go, but abruptly called off on Sunday afternoon after the festival was already underway. It was not, why it was changed,
Starting point is 00:58:30 there's two explanations. Citing sources, the Festival Owl, which I guess is like a festival insider, said Frank decided at the last minute that he no longer wanted it all.
Starting point is 00:58:38 All the people walking around to him at the start of the performance were actually ice skaters, had been practicing for weeks and were supposed to be skating. Coachella had to deconstruct the approved stage that had been planned and signed off on for
Starting point is 00:58:47 months melt the entire ice rink and then set it up how frank decided today with no warning which is what you ended up seeing and caused for the hour-long delay this all happened when doors had already opened on sunday and people were securing their spots to see him if the last minute changes weren't made he wouldn't have performed at all which would have left the festival without a closing headliner so like that would have been crazy in that situation Coachella had no choice but to let him go out like you know what would have happened honestly like I honestly feel like Justin Bieber he was there because he's like the biggest Frank Ocean fan I feel like they he was probably the biggest celebrity who was there they literally would have had to like do a backdoor deal like get on stage we will
Starting point is 00:59:20 pay you whatever just do a show what would they have done I don't know what I think they would have like I don't know what I think they would have like. I don't know what they would have done. I think it just would have been a big epic fail. Yeah. And I mean people might want to get like refunds. Maybe there would be like a case for like a class action lawsuit. For sure.
Starting point is 00:59:41 But I don't think Justin Bieber is the kind of singer who can just get on stage and start singing for two hours. The thing with the. But then another report from TMZ and Rolling Stone cite a source saying that production on his performance was adjusted at the last minute to account for an ankle injury the singer sustained during on-site rehearsals
Starting point is 00:59:52 in the week leading up to the festival. So I have so many thoughts. The first thing is about the curfew is I read a report, Coachella, Golden Voice, the company that owns it, paid $200,000 to like
Starting point is 01:00:04 the Palm Springs Council for their violations this weekend that owns it, paid $200,000 to the Palm Springs Council for their violations this weekend. It's just a part, it's a cost that they incur going past curfew. It's not the biggest deal. If he had went, you get charged, I think, every 10 minutes is whatever. They would have paid it.
Starting point is 01:00:15 I don't think it was that big of a deal. He wanted to leave. I want to say this is so beyond unacceptable. And when you think about people who have headlined Coachella in years past and how much they, Beyonce, how much they gave Harry Styles last year, like it's, it's like, it's definitely embarrassing for, for Frank Ocean. It just makes him look so bad. Like when you compare like literally seriously Beyonce, that was probably one of
Starting point is 01:00:39 like the greatest performances of all time. Like for the same event, they probably got paid a similar amount. Like that's what you put together. and let's say this ankle thing is true like can you could you literally ever see like a small ankle injury getting in Beyonce's way like that's just what it sucks but that's what these performers do like they work through tough things when you saw Lady Gaga's documentary her chronic pain Lady Gaga's Coachella performance I think she was dealing with her chronic pain like that's just I don't know it's I don't know like the show must go on yeah also I understand not wanting to be on an ice rink with an ankle injury but there are other ways to recalibrate the performance one and this doesn't explain why you're standing like backstage basically where no one can see you and you're
Starting point is 01:01:19 hiding like be out in front have a spotlight on you and have the ice skaters going off behind you also Frank Ocean is known for his voice he doesn't have to do all the drama you know like he can still put on a sick performance it's not like he's you know one of these like pop stars who it's all about the theatrics right um and without those things you're kind of left with what right people are there to hear him sing so it's kind of like Adele in Vegas like just sing right you don't need the pyrotechnics and the dancers. And it's nice because it's Coachella. And so yeah, let them do it in the back.
Starting point is 01:01:51 I don't know. I can imagine if I was like a really big Frank Ocean fan. Like I honestly, I don't think I know more than one Frank Ocean song. So like I'm just trying to get into the headspace. No, if I was a fan of anyone and they were Sunday night at Coachella, which is the biggest night night But also the worst night Because it means Then you have to come home Monday
Starting point is 01:02:06 And you can't come home Sunday And like you wait the whole weekend For that one person No and there's so much of money And time and energy And resources spent To get to Coachella Yeah
Starting point is 01:02:15 People camp there So if your person Is Sunday night And like you're making a trip To this festival Because like that's your person And it's this disappointing Like
Starting point is 01:02:24 Oh my god I don't think I could continue being a fan of that person like I would be so annoyed yeah and the interesting thing about Coachella is that everyone forgets but there's actually two weekends there's another one this weekend so I don't know what that means for for Frank Ocean's performance do you think he'll it'll be redemptive or he won't perform at all? I don't know. I get the vibe like he doesn't care. Yeah. But if he does, like it would be redemptive. It has to be.
Starting point is 01:02:48 He can't do this again. Right. The only other thing that I saw was like, again, Justin Bieber is like a really big Frank Ocean fan and he posted that it was like incredible, like just kind of like defending. Maybe some of his fans feel that way. It's like maybe if you saw Taylor and it wasn't like lights, camera action, but it was you're watching your girl and you love her and you liked it. Yeah like lights camera action but it was you're watching your girl and you love her and you liked it yeah maybe it would be enough for you maybe maybe that's a really good
Starting point is 01:03:09 point yeah this was just like so shocking because I feel like the Coachella headliners like it's Coachella like so has it together like it's always it's never the music that's the problem right it's always like amazing yeah I think the stars of the weekend were black pink actually that's the problem. Right. It's always like amazing. Yeah. I think the stars of the weekend were Blackpink, actually. That's what I heard. I heard that their performance was amazing. I'm sure it was. They're so amazing. They're so cute.
Starting point is 01:03:31 That's something I would have liked to see. Yeah. So, win for Blackpink. Yeah. Are you ready for a fifth and final story? Like kind of some shocking news. Yellowstone is set to end after the rest of season five airs. Okay, but this isn't like an official announcement, right?
Starting point is 01:03:46 No. It's like more sources, but it's like we're getting there. Multiple sources have confirmed to the Post that Yellowstone is set to end after the second half of season five. It just got on board. Right now, it's not known when the show will air again. In fact, it's not known when it will even film. The show, as we have talked about, had been hit by claims that Kevin Costner, who's the star of the show, won't return amid a dispute with creator Tyler Sheridan
Starting point is 01:04:08 It's the same as with any showrunner and a big star There's respect but there's friction So if true I just want to say like I don't see a time in which I would ever forgive Kevin Costner Honestly Yeah but like when we first were talking about this It was like there was going to be a show and kevin costner was going to leave at some point yeah would you rather them continue yellowstone without john dutton or end the show with him i would like them to continue it not forever
Starting point is 01:04:37 yeah but isn't that just like the oc without marissa spoiler alert no but isn't that also the point of yellowstone it's like a succession thing yeah so like maybe honestly like one season without him like what happens after like how do and then you know there's a resolution and then we know that that's how Yellowstone will go on for the next 50 years but the whole point of the show is like the whole time it's been with like which kid is it yeah that's a good point so I actually do think we can get one or two seasons without him but what yes you're right like going on forever without like that's terrible yeah and i hate that i hate that too but like it's like succession spoiler alert you know we are now in the final season and we are now seeing what happens in the succession yeah you know are we even seeing hopefully we will do you see anything
Starting point is 01:05:21 on sunday yes about who's succeeding yes you have an answer you can spoil it i don't give a shit um kind of you know like yeah because everything's uh yeah so they found a piece of paper oh in his um in his safe that said it's kendall amongst a bunch of other wishes like he wanted to leave colin a watch um but and it was actually it was a very smart thing they did his name was underlined and it also kind of looks like his name was crossed out like they can't tell honestly by looking at it like Logan's not the type of guy to just cross something out like he would burn it to the ground he wouldn't put it back in his safe it looked like it was underlined so they needed to head a board thing that day
Starting point is 01:06:02 this actually sounds good so for the interim position, they all agreed to do Kendall and Roman. And like Shiv got like pushed out. Cause it's like, well to push all three of us, like you have actually like never really fucking work for the company. Like you have no experience. Like Roman and I both do.
Starting point is 01:06:14 We're both currently like COOs or whatever. And it would just look like we're trying to be like family all in the company. Like you need to take a step back. And she was like shook. Cause she's like totally getting pushed out. Oh. And there's like a big thing that happened. i tell you you know what i think i'll watch it sounds good so she got she got she got kicked out okay good yeah like she is they said
Starting point is 01:06:33 you're like literally not qualified no not even when they none of them really are they tried to get ship to work for the company like a season or two ago because logan had decided to favor her and one right and it didn't go over well Right so In order to make it look best to the shareholders They're like we can't all three That looks so thirsty And they were all saying they'll poke holes With Shiv
Starting point is 01:06:55 And she actively rails against the company Right she's not the right Person for it I mean Kendall is obviously Odd choice too because he was so publicly Against his dad but he has this piece of paper. Right. So because he has
Starting point is 01:07:07 the paper it's like his father's anguish and then Roman is honestly Roman's been with the company ride or die recently. Recently but no I
Starting point is 01:07:14 think Kendall up until the show started he was always working for the company like in his whole life. He was always supposed to be the
Starting point is 01:07:19 next. Yeah. So they just don't know if this piece of paper is like outdated because at one point it was definitely true.
Starting point is 01:07:29 That's funny. Yeah it was good. That's so succession like no answer yeah something but nothing yeah but that's better than what I thought it was gonna be which was just more dialogue no they actually had a board meeting they had a piece of paper but it's an interim position yeah but everybody knows like in order to get to the full-time position like you gotta get to the interim yeah so like Shiv is quaking oh I love that for her yeah i kind of like hate her yeah me too who do you hate more logan kendall or shiv shiv yeah is that like a hot take i just hate i mean at one point in time i definitely hated kendall more yeah i don't know kendall's like it's kind of wrong yeah like it's fine yeah roman is like still has my heart do you know i read something what was when did you watch the first episode of succession me a year ago or two years did you know that in the
Starting point is 01:08:13 first episode and they never bring it up again roman has a wife and a son or a child maybe a daughter no yeah and then it's just like a plot hole it's either a plot hole or maybe it's like not it's like that's what the rich do you know oh richie's gonna rich yeah but like he is a full-ass child like so does kendall kendall is too but like they've been in and out yeah yeah that's he doesn't talk about them all the time no that's part of his story yeah roman has a child and a wife yeah but like not he's not married we don't know That's weird Is that crazy Yeah So either it's a plot hole
Starting point is 01:08:47 Or something they decided Like immediately Never mind That's a weird thing to do I know Especially just like Write it into the script Oh I'm getting divorced
Starting point is 01:08:55 Right Right She has full custody Right Bye Right Well I guess that's Your secession recap
Starting point is 01:09:03 Oh that's fucking bullshit By the way Like seriously We didn't even talk about If the show ends Like not fucking cool Kevin Costner well i guess that's your secession recap oh that's fucking bullshit by the way like seriously we didn't even talk about if the show ends like not fucking cool kevin costner i just got here i know you just got here but i would be okay if they end the show with integrity yeah of course it's better to have loved and lost it's not never you're not telling me that we don't we don't even have a season left we have half a season left right because they stopped for mid-season finale and they literally never finished season five. But the thing is like. The way that season five is going so far.
Starting point is 01:09:27 It's giving final season vibes already. Like it's so. Nostalgic. And just. It's not dramatic. It's kind of like just closing. Yeah. Threads.
Starting point is 01:09:37 Like it's. They're constantly at like the county fair. Listening to music. And enjoying life. In your eyes. Because I think it's fairly obvious to me. Like. How does the succession of Yellowstone go?
Starting point is 01:09:48 Like John is getting older. What happens next? I think that it has to be Beth, Rip and Casey. They all can live there. They all do their share. They each kind of do a third of what John was doing as a one. And then it goes to Casey's son. But you don't think they're going to adopt that runaway kid?
Starting point is 01:10:10 I think they could. And that runaway kid could be to Casey's son what Rip was to John. Just because he doesn't have Dunton in his blood. Yeah. That's terrible. But like, I think that would be nice. If they should foster a friendship between Casey's son and the runaway. Right. What do they keep calling him? Just kid.
Starting point is 01:10:29 Yeah, I don't know. And then we could see how in 50 years it is John and Rip is his right hand. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe, you know, the runaway kid falls in love with like, if, if Casey has a daughter, maybe. Right. Casey has a daughter. Yeah. I like that.
Starting point is 01:10:48 I love it. Done. Yeah. That's actually really good. Yeah. Welcome Taylor. It's literally just copy and pasting. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:55 But I think that would be so nice. Yeah. Obsessed. Yeah. That's really good. I guess we'll just have to wait and see, but we've been saying that for a while. Apparently they're not even filming.
Starting point is 01:11:03 When are we going to get the second half of the season? I feel like they might be filming That part I feel like they don't know shit about fuck Yeah it's just like What is Cole Hauser going to do next? Like he was literally born just for this role There's spinoff talk Matthew McConaughey
Starting point is 01:11:17 Oh yeah Four horse farm Six eight Six six six six six No Six acres Six That farm in Dallas Yeah yeah yeah Texas where Jimmy went Where Jimmy went 666. No. Six acres? Six.
Starting point is 01:11:29 That farm in Dallas or Texas where Jimmy went. Where Jimmy went. Triple six? No. Six shoe? Six horse? Four star? Yellow stone. The sixes, I think.
Starting point is 01:11:39 The sixes. Six. Just spin off Jimmy. Yellowstone sixes. Everything we know about Yellowstone spin off. Six, six, six, six. What? Four sixes?
Starting point is 01:11:54 Four sixes. Four sixes, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's like didn't feel right. No, it didn't feel good. No, it didn't. Like when you get it. Four sixes.
Starting point is 01:12:02 But yeah, maybe it's that. There's more. And the Matthew McConaugaughey show did you say that yeah like they're saying that he's could be the next john dunn but i think no i thought it was a separate show he shouldn't come in on yellowstone that will ruin the show yeah and we have 1923 which i finished in 1883 which i truly couldn't get through do you like 1923 um i did i don't know if I just liked it because that guy was so hot and Michelle Randolph um so I don't know if I was like blinded by like the sexy man and the beautiful woman I don't think that you could be blinded in 1923 like I feel like that would be a hard thing for you to like like yes except it was like very my vibe like so much of it takes place in Africa and they're like these beautiful safaris and like I love that shit and it was like
Starting point is 01:12:44 in the in the early 1900s so it was like very glamorous you know they're all going on safari it's like roaring 20s yeah i i didn't it was like kind of the vibe you know oh okay yeah i gotta watch oh you didn't see it no oh my god the guy is so hot like it's literally the most important part of the show. Hotter than Rip? No, no, no, no. But different because this guy's like very traditionally like he was meant to be an actor.
Starting point is 01:13:09 Cole Hauser was probably told like in many auditions like you're not traditionally handsome enough. You're not like ripped enough. You'll never be the leading man. Right. And that's what makes him
Starting point is 01:13:18 And he said I'm not ripped enough. I'll become ripped. Oh no, he said I'm not ripped enough. I don't give a rip. I That's why he's so in my opinion like popping off and like women are in love with him because he kind of looks like just everyone's husband like yeah he's not this like crazy crazy body different like he's just
Starting point is 01:13:38 like so American no and also it's his character that we've fallen in love. The jacket, the toothpick. Not the character of Rip. No, no, no. That's not what I mean. His character as a man. Yeah. And like we've said, your character at a certain point outweighs your looks. Yes. Like I see you for what you truly are. Which is ugly.
Starting point is 01:13:57 Which could be ugly. In Rip's case, it's extremely handsome. So true. Look at us with our feet. No, I copied you. It's kind of a nice way to sit, right? I. No, I copied you. It's kind of a nice way to sit, right? I completely disagree.
Starting point is 01:14:07 That's better. It's kind of nice. Well, you're wearing big shoes. Yeah. Big heavy shoes. That's a heavy load to carry. Speaking of heavy loads to carry, we've officially
Starting point is 01:14:16 carried this one all the way through for, wow, an hour and 15. We went long today. Wow, look at us. Thanks, Jax. Thanks, Turdy. Thanks so much for listening to the show.
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