The Toast - Pretty and Pregnant Privilege: Monday, May 18th, 2026

Episode Date: May 18, 2026

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Jackson Claude. Favorite show the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off, swirly. It's the toast. I sound amazing. This fucking necklace. It's the second time it broke. Oh, man.

They're fucker. Welcome back to the toast. Happy Monday. We are live and in living color with Jackson Club. We are live in studio together. We're back together. We've been so sympathetic. Dico because I came to New York this weekend to see my co-journer and for a work obligation.

Yeah, for sure, for sure. We had Dear Media by night, which we'll get into because it was so much fun. And then Claudia, you know, she didn't trust me to get home on my own. I don't trust. When Jackie was walking around these streets of New York, I don't know why I felt like my daughter. I'm like, do you need me to drop you off? Like, you knew where you're going?

I forget. I know you lived there for. Not only, I'm from there, which is just the craziest. You're not. Like. I felt worried about my sister. Like, it was broad daylight, but I'm like, she's going to get lost. She's going to get mugged.

She's going to. a jump. She's going to come back home with the black eye. But you survived New York City. I did. You kind of thrived New York City. I did. You know, I had a really nice day. I feel like the day that I came, the weather was amazing. Yeah. We were in Central Park. You had a little sullery.

Yes. We threw like a little, little picnic. It wasn't so little. It kept getting bigger. I'm like, we'll do a little picnic. Next thing you know, there's like a balloon arch. It was a glicknik. A glam picnic. It was a Shabbitnik, a Shabbat picnic. All of Ruby's friends came. We just like a little basketball themed party. It was so cute. And all of my friends came too. So I got to see all of my friends. I was in New York for literally 24 hours. Vlog coming. Oh yeah. We logged the whole day. Yeah, we did. Really funny and fun blog. We vlog. We vlog like Dear Media by Noche. It was just like really great. Um,

so I was able to see almost all of my friends. Very productive trip. Very productive trip. The city was looking beautiful. The place. The place looked great. It always does. Thank you. We crushed our work obligation. We crushed our work obligation. We played mahjong. So all in all, I was like really nervous for the trip. You know, I haven't traveled in a while. I don't travel. I'm not a traveler. And like you walking around a major city by yourself.

Like, it's worrisome. Yeah. Three bucks, two bags. One mugging. One jacks. Three bucks, two bags, one jacks. But you only brought one bag, which I was really impressed with. It was like a tiny little suitcase.

Yeah. And it was a short trip. But it was a great success. And now I'm back. Claudia escorted me home. Thank you so much. We all flew home together, which was so nice. I miss my sister.

And it's so great to be here. The place looks great. It always does. And you know what? Like traveling? Not traveling. Like, because I don't want to go down that road. Like, but like moving places.

Let's make you love your place. No, no, no. It's just like it's fun for us. Like going there, coming here. Yeah. Having multiple places. Coming here, going there. Absolutely.

Just like renewed energy. Like we love our pen pal energy, but we love our in studio energy. We do. So it's just like fun to switch it up. It's fun to switch it up. And you know what? As a Great America Ferreira one said, you got to kick it up.

And I do feel like we have kick it. it up. I also did what I said. I was going to do and I watched Real House. I was of Rhode Island. What episode are you up to? I'm in the middle of the last episode. So I feel like, you're ahead of me. What episode is that? Seven? I feel like I'm on six. Oh, I'm in Newport. I'm in Newport too. They just fought in the bedroom. Yeah. And now it's the next day. But, oh, I just saw like the previews for like the midseason trailer. Did you see the midseason trailer? Oh, am I all cut up? No, and now there's one episode that I haven't really watched. Oh, me neither. Okay. What do you think? Do you love it? So I understand like, you know, the woman had the woman being cheated on in real time like is

is crazy. Is major for television. I wouldn't say that like I love it, but I'm into it and like I want to keep watching it. And yeah, it's not like the worst. I thought it was going to be like seriously the worst piece of garbage based on the trailer that came out. Yeah, agreed. My expectations were in the garbage.

I thought it was going to be like the end of Housewives. Like we've lost the plot here. Yeah. And the thing is I do think it marks a shift in Housewives because even though they've slipped in recent years. It's always been this like affluent group of women. And really this is not an affluent group. Not super... Liz has a nice house and that's it. They all are just regular women.

And they do well, but I think like the group and the history is very good. And of course we have like the young, the youths. The Rosie and the Kelsey. Rosie Kelsey, Ashley I. Are you team Rosie or Kelsey? Kelsey. Oh! No! I'm team Rosie. Kelsey, first of all.

Kelsey is such a jealous. I'm sorry. I'm about to use this word and it's not nice. Don't say. Don't use that word. She's not that terrible. No, I'm not using that word starts with the same letter. She's literally the definition of a concubine. Like, seriously, get a job. I hate her. Sure. She's just really pretty. Like, once you get past that, you're like, wait, you're mean. You're literally a bully. First of all. And her coming after Rosie for her, like, her house and whatever, like, you literally don't have a house first of all. Second of all, how do you know that she's lying? You need to bring proof. No, also, when she said that,

when Rosie said that, that, like, I have a house. I have a man. I have a job. And you don't. Like, yeah, no, she's right for that. In general, though, like when it comes to, like, confessionals or friendship. Personality. Personality, I really like Kelsey. She is also so easy on the eyes. Not that any of the women are. She is pretty privileged.

But she's so pretty. No, you wouldn't be saying that. That scene in the dining room. But everyone is pretty. No, she's prettier than everyone. She's one of the prettier housewives of all time. I know. No, no, so it's just, like, really nice to watch.

And so she gets a little bit of something for that. No, not with me. Sorry. That scene at the dinner. Just like, when someone's really wealthy, you want to watch, even if they're not the most interesting, like, that gives them a little. something. That scene at the dinner when she was like, that's the first genuine thing I've ever heard come out of your mouth. The definition of a backhanded compliment being like everything you say is a lie and like that was nice.

And she was like, it's mad that Rosie's not like so grateful for like the shitty compliment. Rosie lost me. Like I became like a Rosie op. So it's like I didn't care. I was a Rosie up. When she first entered I'm like, who's this toddler and tiara? Like her outfits and her professionals are fucking crazy. Her house is gross. When she went on the railroad around the sea and she gets in the car with Liz and says out of nowhere do you like Ashley. And then literally. And then literally. shares her thoughts on Ashley and then she goes and tells Ashley Liz thinks that you aren't like you're not nice to her and we said that she could be scary and then she immediately flipped on Alicia and turned something that Alicia said into a negative in that moment I was like I don't like this person she is such so desperate to be on TV that she's like operating like a producer ploy and so maybe if Kelsey was fighting with someone else I wouldn't I would maybe and I agree with you like

I'm not like loving the fight but I already rode off Rosie in that moment like when Alicia did When Alicia saw her, she's like, you're being weird, and I see you, and I see it in your eyes. I'm like, I see it in her eyes. Like, so desperate to be on the show and, like, make shit happen. Even though things are happening, Rosie, you don't have to try so hard. Like to run to one person, talk shit, run to the next. I imagine when all the women watches are going to be like,

the fuck were you doing, like, starting shit and then telling someone else what someone else said. I see it so differently. First of all, I think that on the railroad, I think her and Ashley are, like, actual friends. So if, like, the head honcho was saying this about you, I actually wasn't even mad. She was like, you know, I get this a lot because I'm really quiet. Some people think I'm being mean, but I'm just shy. I'm not a bitch.

I actually think that was, like, helpful for her friend. Because Ashley's not in the mix. And, like, Rosie's trying to bring her for her and her friend to level up with the older women. And I'm sorry. I loved when she clocked Alicia. Alicia's so fucking two-faced. And Alicia, like, couldn't handle anyone who just, like, blows up when they're being called out for stuff. Like, you're so wrong.

Oh, no. I'm so too much. She was talking shit about Liz on the beach. She did say everybody has to walk on eggshells around Liz. Sorry. She got motherfucking called out for being a snake. Oh, I didn't think she was a snake. I felt like she was saying like, yeah, like Liz is head bitch in charge.

That's not what she said. We walk on eggshells around. Like, she's a little scary. And I feel like everything that she said. And the tone in which she said it, she would have said to Liz. I don't think like anything that what she said was bad. But the way that Rosie framed it when she brought it up in front of the group was snake-like. I think she's doing her job.

Yeah, she's like the least eligible to be on this show. She's like young and like has a house that's not finished. She doesn't have like an interesting background like Kelsey does. So yeah, she's earning her keep here. And in the beginning, I was like, Who the fuck is this? Like seriously, she looks like a child wearing her toddler in tears. But she's really grown on me.

And when she was sick at the house and everyone was being so mean to her, like trying to convince her at that dinner that she should be grateful for the comment that Kelsey gave her. I'm sorry, like a big L on Joe Ellen's part. And I love Joe Ellen. She's one of my babes. I'm sorry. Like, I felt bad for her. And now I stand Rosie.

Sorry. And someone's like someone's got to do the work. And you know all the things that have come about about Kelsey. No. So her and that guy broke up two years ago and he like let her use that. They're still friends. He like let her use the house. Everyone knows, like, in her friends and family, like, her real friends and family,

that he, like, let her use the house to, like, launch her career and, like, having this interesting. Because otherwise, like, seriously, what, let's say we met her post-year-two years post-breakup, like, why would she be on the show? Okay. Yeah. So she's just, like, sort of lying about everything, and she's accusing Rosie about lying. So, is that a truth-ers? Is that everything that's come out?

I think there was more stuff about Rosie was on entertainment tonight. I was watching it on the airplane yesterday. What else did she say? I don't know. She's obviously, like, I don't need your life story to be, like, everyone, fibs a little like I'm watching what I'm watching pretty privilege pretty privilege for you for sure but also I like her just like I like her way we're so off we're so except I do like I do think my opinion's an unpopular one I think everybody like loves Kelsey and think

really I think I think oh I have no idea I haven't gone on to Twitter yet because I'm not like fully caught up my thoughts on Ashley are a little bit different from yours because I agree that like while she's not a part of the group I actually like have sort of like liked her it's just fun to like see her in this environment um but yeah, I agree she needs to get like a little more involved. And she does feel like, I know she said she's shy and everyone thinks she's a bitch, which I couldn't relate to that sentiment more. That's literally my life story.

Like the title of my memoirs. Everyone thinks I'm a bitch, but I'm actually just shy. However, I do feel like there's like an air of snobbery about her, like where I feel like in the confessionals and everything, it seems like she's sort of like looking down on Rhode Island. And everyone. And she's like not really jumping in, not only because of shyness, but also just because even in the mid-season trailer

where she's like, can we all just stop yelling for one second? Girl, go on a different show. Like, you cry, they yell. Yeah. Like, it's whatever. But I'm actually, and I also feel like her life, the position that she's in her life right now is very relatable.

Yeah. And I'm really enjoying watching it because it's like the valley and all. Yeah. Of like, you know, young motherhood and the stresses. And I feel like she's like sharing a lot. But I also have so much. I feel like she's such an amazing wife.

She loves her husband so much. A little too much. No, I know. But like, and she was always that girl. Like even for Chris Soles. Like she would have done anything for him. She's a lover. She's a lover.

And she loved Jared so much. We all saw it. And like, it's interesting to see how those two people then, like, grow up and have a life. And she's like so supportive and so patient and so loving and like just so like worried about like her husband's happiness. And like, it's really like admirable to watch her like be so patient. Yeah.

When I think a. a different woman would not be, you know. Agreed. But it's simply hard to watch, you know, at times. Yeah, no, but it's really, it's admirable, I will say, like, how loving she is. But why don't we ever see their house? Why haven't we seen their house? We only see, we only see the coffee shop, like, for their scenes.

No, I think we saw their house once, no? Oh, no. And they were both home with the kids. When? I don't remember, but I'm, like, picturing their living room. Only because that's where she's, like, her confessionals are. Right, right, right. But, like, I feel like, actually see a lot of her home life.

And even when she talks a little bit about the influencing or, like, oh wait, I'm sorry. The cruise that she went on, like, I want to see more of it. Kelsey being with like the Instagram hair to Rosie, like that was really painful. Yeah. And it's like she literally hired you. Like, what more could you want in terms of supporting someone's business? Yeah.

No, I agree. Like that was noty. It's thin. It's thin. But I understand why like Rosie automatically rubs Kelsey the wrong way and why she's just like looking for an issue with her. Yeah, of course. Like, because I understand that.

Yeah, of course. I have that with people in my own life as well. Right. But it's like it's more of a reflection on me than it is on them. Like, would you rather go to lunch with Kelsey. or Rosie? Right now, Rosie. Right now, Rosie for you. But we'll see where the season shakes out. No, I love Kelsey. And she looks like Galgado Doe. She's so beautiful. And she's getting more beautiful. I feel like in the early episode, it's like, she just looks like a girl, but like every scene, like, and every angle that they film her at, you know, she's like, it's just, she's a pleasure to watch.

The other thing that they had said about Kelsey was at her and Bill, like the other guy had been dating for two years. I love it. Like when they literally broke up. So she's just telling the story of her life from two years ago. Okay. That's just a lie. Pretty privileged. I just like don't care that much because it's her life, like in the house and the housekeeper. That's not why I like her. So it's like, oh, that was a true.

But that is why she got on the show. But if you told me she had a face transplant. Oh, if the pretty wasn't authentic, you would be upset. No, actually I wouldn't. I would just say who's your doctor. Right, right. That's what I would say. And Rula-la-la, like she makes me so sad.

What was the lula row? The leggings. When they were at polo, he left and comes back without his ring. That was one of actually the craziest things. He said his parent was in the hospital just so we could go see his mistress. And then she's at home being like he went to the hostel. Why would we have to drop you at home? Why couldn't you all go to the hospital together?

I don't know. And so what's the reason that he won't just leave her? Like because she makes the money? Oh, maybe she makes the money. Or like, I don't know. I get the vibe that from a lot of these people, like the way they talk about marriages. They're like kind of old school. It's like you just have to make it work.

I want to stay. No, why he won't leave her. No, because it's like their ethos is like, we make the marriage's work, but like, you know, we have issues. Yeah. So he wants to stay married and also have a girlfriend. That's like the ideal for him. Do you think that Liz slept with Dino?

Like, do you think that they had an affair? I don't know and I don't care. Oh, okay. You know? Yeah. And the way they keep talking about things and they allude like a lot of the rumors and stuff. It's like a lot of context for us is missing.

It needs to be provided. No, no. And they're not providing. They're just not. So I don't care. Yeah. I don't care about the ongoing. you know and you know down by the seawall like I don't care yeah you know and it seems like there

has to be like an understanding that everyone here oh joellen and the sister and the husband joel ellen and the sister and also i'm sorry what does joelan look like like it's bothering me oh i was getting close to it ben said it too he was like i was getting close to it i can't tell if it's someone in my personal life or somebody like famous um i was getting close to the identification but um i didn't get there yet i will let you know it's someone right it's someone also but that's where I got with Kelsey and Gal Godot. Now you will see it. Okay, I don't really see it, but I'll look for it now.

You'll see it. It's like in her being, you know? Yeah, yeah. In her being. In her being. Of being gorgeous. So what nights is it on? Like I need to add it to my weekly schedule on Sunday.

Oh, so I'm not saying. Oh, great. So now we're two episodes behind. Great. Okay. We'll catch up this week. Just one. Okay.

We'll catch up this week. Also major news in the Licks versus Lex. I don't have my whiteboard, but if I did, like, I'm throwing it out. Yeah, throw it out the door. We need to talk about it every day. Yeah, the lead story today. Oh, and then also we just want to talk about Dear Media Banyang because we had such a fabulous time.

By no, yeah, they did like a live, I don't even know what to call it. It was almost like a festival where they had like a lineup of some of their most popular podcast. So it was us, of course. Taylor Strecker was a host of the evening. The good guys did a show. They brought out Joey Kamaster. Amanda Hirsch.

Not kidding, but not fat came. She brought out Amy Schumer, which was such a sleigh. We got to the downstairs dressing rooms. It was at Webster Hall. And all the talent had dressing rooms with their names. names on the door and it said Amanda Hirsch, Amy Schumer. And I was like, first of all, I didn't know that everybody was bringing guests. Like, we don't do guests, but we never would have brought one.

But I just, like, didn't know that that was, like, I guess that's what people do on, like, yeah, yeah. So when Ben told me he was bringing on a guest, I'm like, that's weird. But I guess it wasn't. We were the weird ones. We were the weird ones. Amy Schumer came down to the dressing and was like swirling it up with everyone. Like, she was so regular.

She looked so pretty. And she came up to us and she was like, I want to meet you guys. I'm such a fan of the toast. Yeah. Yeah. And then she did her segment and Slade. Josh went and Slade and then Jackson Turn went and obviously Slade. Jackson Turn came out of live show retirement. I know. Did it make you want to do more?

Yes, for sure. I like it's everything around it that's really hard. You know, like the traveling or like missing bedtime or whatever. But like being on stage with the swirlies like genuinely is electric. Yeah, it was, it's addicting. Yeah. So we will at some point do more. It was nice to come out for one night only just like pop in, pop out. But it's definitely like in our future once we can like move freely. move freely we're not in a free movement time in our lives no you know yeah it was great yeah so it was fun to just like one night be a rock and they also like threw together like such a nice event that like everybody there like they got PR bags to go home with like from all the brand sponsors it was just like it was kind of like really well put together there was like custom cocktail napkins you know yeah they said what are you nuts what are you nuts and they had like you know lots of sponsored um activations like everybody was getting true fru and cloud popcorn for fray love it I ate so much true for when I was there like it was just it was all over the dressing rooms yeah

I've never seen those individual size. Like you get one piece of fruit. Yeah. Pretty smart. One fru for true. For a true. Trudey. True dough.

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Fresh shirt. Okay, our first story, throw out the whiteboard because Alex Cooper is pregnant. She shared yesterday on Instagram. She is expecting her first baby with her husband, Matt Kaplan. So she posted a photo of the two of them loved up and bump in and said our family. Now, turns out they probably are sleeping in separate bedrooms. Maybe the smell of him has started to bother her. Maybe she needs more room or maybe the pregnancy pillow just sort of only left room for one.

So good to know that those rumors were true. Or, no, but it's funny because the rumors were that like her and her husband are Rocky and they're splitting up and those articles were coming out for weeks and it's like, no, you couldn't have been further than true because they're pregnant. Yeah. Now, I need people to like have normal reactions to this. And I've seen some really like genuinely upsetting things. First of all, people saying, you know, they're probably having a baby to fix their marriage. Like seriously stop. Now when someone gets pregnant, like they are off limits. I'm sorry, they are. And I actually feel really bad that she was dealing with this in her first trimester. You know, I had a little bit of a scandal during one of my pregnancies. One of my, I've only had. I've only had. one during my one and only pregnancy and let me tell you it was really hard like it messes with your mental health and like I feel bad for her so scandal did you have well sorry we yeah and we didn't even do anything like I was getting canceled and I literally was just like laying in bed it was insane so I will tell you it's very hard on your health so I feel bad for her yeah and makes sense now why they went to Hawaii yeah of course of course another reaction like again I need people to be normal is like well Alex Earle obviously knew that she was pregnant so she withheld you know in in getting herself involved

making it worse for Alex Cooper. And it's like, okay, like she obviously didn't know that. She didn't know she was pregnant. I don't think that she did. No, but also, like, Alex Cooper did open the ring while she was pregnant. But she was also probably, like, just feeling like, you know, you also just get, like, in pregnancy and having babies, like, makes you real. It makes you tough and, like, makes you just be, like, nothing matters.

Yeah, only a crazy hormonal pregnant woman would start this drama, honestly. Yeah, but also, like, sometimes when you're, like, younger and scared, you just, like, shy away from things, but the confidence that comes with, like, pregnancy and being a mother, you're like, say it. Yeah. Let's fight. Yeah, of course. I want to say something, and I know you don't want me to say it.

But I do want to say, like, it's just like the most annoying thing you can say, but, like, I did have a feeling she might be pregnant. And if you watch a video, I only saw the trailer. Her episode with Kevin Hart, like, the roots. That's why I'm so glad I don't dye my hair. Like, you can't dye your hair in the first trimester or the whole pregnancy. Some people don't do it whole pregnancy, but definitely not first trimester, but it opens up your roots will give you away.

I guess so. I think she thought like the slick back phone you would help. changes up her hair. Really? I actually feel like it's the one thing she doesn't change. No, she's like had different shades of blonde. Like some people grow their roots out. Some people like are transitioned to brunette. It could be, it could be a bunch of stuff.

Yeah. Well, the roots are dead giveaway for the blonde swirlies. So thankfully we don't have that problem. Yeah. I think this is nice. Like, yeah. It also, it is really crazy because I feel like it's so like against her ethos, you know. It's very incongruous with like, I don't know.

Her messaging. Her messaging. I don't want to say her because I don't know. know her in. I feel like there's a complete difference between like what she puts out in the world and who she actually is because a lot of the content that she's become famous for. I don't know what she says on every single episode. But a lot of like the ethos is like, you know, women, we don't need a man. Dump him. Well, she's like getting married and having babies. She's very traditional. Yes, she actually is very traditional. Yes. A lot of her messaging like encourages fellow woman. To like be independent and men stink. Right. Break up with your boyfriend. And I think she'll also recently get an episode about like how okay it is to like. you know, push kids down the line. That was kind of recent. So I think this is wonderful. I was shocked.

Yeah, me too. Yeah, and I like being shocked. Yeah, me too. But I also saw a video today that was like, she's just like won the battle because I don't think at this point, not that Alex Earl was like, this is changing anything for Alex Earl's plan, but like now it's kind of case closed.

You're not going to go after a pregnant woman. Absolutely. No, it's definitely, it definitely changes the landscape of the fight. It also makes me want to start fights. like when I'm pregnant because then no one's going to come after a pregnant woman, right? Absolutely. I need to call bed.

We just get pregnant. You know, you're right. And we should always have like one of us. And I don't know if everybody agrees to this, but in terms of like internet, like drama, like I do feel like pregnant people are off limits. I really do. Yeah. Once it's.

Once they're pregnant, but nobody knew. Right. So I didn't ever like. So like it shouldn't come out on the show on the next. I actually do wonder if this changes Alex Earle's plans at all. Like maybe she was like planning on going in. And it's like by then the show she'll be like nine, that's even worse.

Like, yeah. I don't know. I really don't know. I'm curious. Um, I feel like it doesn't change her plans. Okay. Because I,

she does still need to respond. And she didn't start this. She has her own brand to worry about. And if she like has, if she just leaves this open ended forever, like that's not good. Mm-hmm. Especially if she has some big story to tell.

Yeah. And she didn't start it. So I guess like pregnant women then just get licensed to start stuff. Yeah, which is also not fair. Yeah. Which is, and not historically true.

But it is funny because when we saw the video, one of our takes on it was like how out of character this was. And like she never, you know, sort of lowers herself. It's the confidence of a new mama. It's not only that, it's like the hormones too. Like it really will make you feel. You're fed up.

Yeah. You're fed up. So it makes it like it adds up. But it also sort of like it's also kind of reductive to just be like she's a spiraling hormonal woman. That's like when people are like she's on her period. She probably was on her period. Like no, no, you're so right.

It's so reductive. Not me being reductive. No, but it's not about the hormones for me. It's about the fact that like when just so many bigger things are happening, like when your life is changing and you're pregnant and you become a mother, it just like puts things in a different sort of perspective. Absolutely. And you're sort of like fearless.

How many weeks along do you think she is like that belly? I think she's just out of the first trimester because she also shared like on her Instagram yesterday. Like so happy I can finally like I don't have to hide this belly anymore. So I feel like she was like waiting for like the first minute she could post. Yeah. That's just my take. Oh yeah.

And maybe she was going to post it like a little while ago but she like didn't think. I feel like maybe she's like 20 weeks. Yeah. because like her announcement maybe got pushed back a little bit. Perhaps. But she would have been the one to push it back because she posted the video. Right. Yeah, but she didn't know it was going to turn into like this whole Vanity Fair expose.

Yeah. I also am curious like what this means for her content and her like branding because she's like made a very intentional choice. Like I want to say like five or six years ago to be very Gen Z. Like she's, you know, Gen Z language, Gen C influencers, Gen Z content. Every like press article is like, you know, unwell is the Gen Z network. Like that's, they've loved. with Gen Z. Right, they do like Gen Z programming.

So is she going to become like millennial mama making reels? Making, I'm so curious, like, will the reels, do the reels begin now? I don't know. I actually do think she's low-key been, like, turning millennial with all this reality content. Yeah. It's millennial women who love reality TV. And I don't think like Gen Z, like, I don't think like Jen Z like being spoken to,

like by a not Gen Z person, you know? No, no. So maybe like there was a brand shift and she was like, oh, maybe I can't have a baby. Yeah. Also, I'm cracking up because my agent texted me this morning being like, do you actually want to go on potsters? Yes, she does. Yes, she does. You should. Only if they film in South Florida. Only if they film in South Florida. And you don't have to live at the house. Like, you can go home at night. Yeah, of course, of course. I don't know if it's going to be podsters. So like, I'm now like. You're itching to do. I'm not itching. I'm curious about like one of these sorts of programs.

It would be so fucking funny. What's the one that, why can I never remember the name? Special Forces. Oh my God. You actually would win, though. You have insane mental fortitude. Like, people don't know that about you. Like, how tough you are up here. The physical stuff, like, would be hard for you.

No, but once I get into a physical shape, I'm an athlete. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But where you really, like, your strength over anyone else is up here. It's both. It's mental and physical. I love that for you. Oh, my God. No, I couldn't go on.

And then I could, like, be what you did at Massinger. Like, it's fun to watch someone else do the hard thing, you know? And, like, no, I don't think special forces. I think that's, again, like, too involved. Yeah. But something like very light where it's like a bunch of like internet personnel. Could you imagine me and them? I know.

And then it's like sort of like a land fine of like people we've talked about. Oh and then I'll obviously be in the drama because they'll be like you said this about the episode. And I'm just going to be like. Yeah, I did. Let's talk about it. Let's not talk about it actually. That's my art.

I can't be held responsible for anything I say when I'm creating art. Yeah. But I think I would make like friends to last lifetime. I'm very friendly. You know? Yeah. Like I always cultivate like a great group of friends. I would just hope that you would stay on long enough for people to really.

get to know you because like we were saying before like you come off when people don't know you they really think you're mean like you just have that sort of like cold face and so i would say i would hope that you would stay on for like the first three four or five episodes so that everybody can get to know you like you're the nerd who everybody realizes he takes off his glasses and he's handsome yeah not only like my fellow cast members but also the audience of course you know i think i would have a real arc with the audience oh i've chills just thinking about this show maybe we should just produce it ourselves yeah we should just to show everyone like might be like bobby play but you're the bobby fray but you're the bobby play and you just go up against challenges on other internet stars.

No, we're like, we have to build like the house environment of a show that I could go on, you know? Yeah, so everybody brings their kids. I actually think it could be podsters if it films in like, say, Utah. Uh-huh. And I can go with my family. Yeah. And I can sleep with my family and then go and stir the pot.

Jackie on potsters when? I think it's like a Thanksgiving center show. Oh, I'll come too. I don't want to be on the show. But we can like all stay in Utah for Thanksgiving. And we can do live shows. Pay the bills. live shows. I love that. I love it. I need more information on Poster.

What did you text your agent? Yes? What did I say? I think it might be just like a bunch of LOLs. I don't know. Like nothing actually. I think, I said only if they're filming in South Florida L.O.L. Or Utah. Or if it's in Utah. Get the deeps. Even though the last one was in Utah. Well, she obviously likes Utah. And it can be a prerequisite to like you sleeping in a house. No, no, no. Or I could do like Jackson Hole. You know, somewhere. Somewhere. Somewhere you Colic. Yeah. Somewhere beautiful.

Aspen. Montana. Genovia. Fine. I'll go to Korshaval. Fine. We'll do it. We'll do it.

Twist mountains. So funny. So funny. Seriously, crazy plot twists in this whole saga that she's pregnant. Like, seriously, Mazel Tov, I really hope that, like, she didn't let it get to her. I do feel like she's also very tough. Like, in order to operate at the level that she's out. I know everybody loves to, like, make their think pieces on TikTok.

But, like, sorry, to get to the level that she's at. Like you have to be a different kind of beast. And she definitely is. Like she has what it takes. Because there are a lot of podcasts who even interview high level people and they're not like operating at the level that she is. So I do think it takes like a very special type of person. And hopefully that's the same type of person who can just like stay sound of mind and at

peace in a first trimester cancellation. Also for the most part if she turned off her phone. It goes away. It goes away. Except it was like on the news. So it was. It was. And turn off the local news too.

And this big alleging. hit piece, which I imagine her and her team and her lawyers are like involved in. But this is bad for Vanity Fair because like they should have gotten it in before this because now you just look like an asshole. It's a destabilizer. It's a neutralizer. This pregnancy. Especially if the article like comes after

their marriage a little bit. Like and also tries to make the case that like there's trouble in paradise. I think that the article based on what I've heard is really about him. Yeah. Not her. Which isn't a good look for like everyone's feminist queen that like her husband's over here like destroying her empire and like stealing her money. But

they haven't said anything yet so I'm just making stuff up again and I just think the gap between like who she act the life she actually lives and the the show it is why I feel like really nobody knows her I don't know her like who is literally who in the world is Alexandra Cooper it's kind of a sleigh it's kind of nice she has shalom bite for sure well I don't know about like recently but like up until recently she'llambite but like it is nice to not to not have the whole world know all your business yeah agreed and if you're able to like cultivate an audience and be a successful and like earn a living doing content while like sharing nothing.

It's a sleigh. I agree. You have, you have privacy and like peace. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Okay. Are you ready for our next story?

Yeah. Some more few news. Dina Manzo's daughter is fighting with Bethany Frankel. This is so crazy. Calling her a weirdo for failing to credit her shoe business. So Dina Manzo's daughter. I saw the video and I didn't know it was Dina Manzo's daughter. I saw the video knowing, like I saw it with the context of Dina Manzo's daughter.

I just want to say it doesn't really change anything, the fact that she's her daughter. I mean, it's just, like, yeah. It doesn't change that much, but it's like, I don't know, I guess it's just germane for the story. Dina Manzo's daughter from the Real Housewives of New Jersey has a shoe company. It's called new shoes. She posted a video calling Bethany Frankel a weirdo, citing the fact that she sent Bethany Frankl some of her shoes a while ago. She sent a screenshot of the message, and she was, like, really like, you could see, like, very eager, like,

hey, God, send your shoes, and like following up a million times. And Bethany did accept the shoes. Bethany accepted the shoes. Then this week, doing Press Resource Illustrated, Bethany wore a very cute outfit, made a very cute video to like a Jesse J song, and she's wearing the shoes. And I guess the video, like, did really well for Bethany.

And people asked, like, where are the shoes from? And Bethany posted a screenshot of the shoes and said, here's where you can find a similar pair with a link. So Dina Manzo's daughter, like, made a video being like, Bethany Frankel is a weirdo, not only like to be sent her shoes and she wears them and she loves them, but she posted a link, an affiliate link, so she's making money off the link to a dupe of the shoe.

So someone who's like essentially knocking off her brand. Because the shoes were sold out. Well, so she makes this video like talking like a lot of shit about her and how she's like a bad person because she linked to the dupe shoes. And I was like, well, damn. Like Bethany? That is a weird thing to do. Bethany had also worn the shoes a year ago before this.

And I guess like didn't tag, but didn't do like an outfit reveal. I think she just wore them and didn't tag. which like is really not a crime. You send someone's shoes and like you have to sort of when you're doing gifting like you have to make peace with the fact that like

you're giving something for free and if they get it and they post it that's great but if not you can't you can't go into it having such high expectation. Wear the shoes and not taggie's not a big deal at all.

The damning thing was that she had posted like an affiliate link to a dupe of the shoe. So I was like oh that's like very weird what does Bethany have to say about this? So Bethany comes on and makes a video just being like well damn you played yourself

because the shoes were sold out my audience doesn't like when I click to something that they can't buy. So I posted a similar pair. And I had posted, made a video. It's in my drafts of my outfit of the day with all the details. And if you had just waited, I would have posted that video and you would have gotten a boom. But instead, you played the short game and you've pissed me off and you've missed out on what could have been.

And I was like, well, damn. And she eventually did post the video that she had made that day. So like there was no. It was real. She literally took off the shoe to read the name of the brand and shared it with her audience of what the shoes were. And now, of course, there's beef between the two. No, and the internet loves to hate Bethany.

And the internet loves, like, a loser victim. So this girl who got, like, her business to own. Oh, and then she also really lost. She opened her shoes now for pre-order. Like, now everyone's, like, blowing up her business. So, like, this is, like, internet. Like, you make yourself a victim and, like, everybody loves you. When actually, like, yeah, Bethany's explanation of it, like, made a lot of sense.

But you wanted to do, Link sold-out shoes? Right. And if you just had waited, like, she did kind of sleigh because she had the video, Now someone could say, like she put the clothes back on. No, it was so clearly the same stoop where she made the Jesse J video. Yes, for sure. And yeah, she's not going to link that. I guess she could have said these are new shoes, but here's a similar pair.

But that's like such a minor detail. This is also dupe culture. Like the internet dupe like pipeline is insane and people love dupes. When she goes at the end that she was like, you know, that she would do this to like a small business, a woman-owned business, like, shut up. Right. She could do it if it was a man-owned the business? Correct. Could she do it if a man-own-the-business

then? Then it's okay? Yeah. Like, irrelevant. Agreed. So, honestly, I was actually ready to be like, oh, Bethany's gonna have to apologize. Like, this is so awkward. And then I saw Bethany's video. I was like, yeah. Yeah. And she, like, Bethany was coming at it, like, giving, you know, business advice to a girl who seriously did not want to hear it,

but basically being like, yeah, you shot yourself in the foot by, like, making this whole big spectacle. But you know what? In the end of the day, while Bethany's business sense is like very OG business, like internet drama. people love to side. They love to hate Bethany. They love to side with like a small female business owner who was, you know. So she's, I'm sure, raking it in.

Now she put the shoes. The shoes have been sold out. So like there was nothing to sell. But now they're up for pre-order and everyone's, you know, to stick it to Bethany. Great. Yeah, great. To stick it to Bethany, I'm going to spend a couple hundred dollars on shoes. Right.

Also, that's just like a moment, you know, like to have a viral moment with your product is really amazing. But that doesn't, that's not a brand. It does seem like, I didn't see her other shoes, but those shoes are really cute. Yes. I think if she has like a great business, this could be like a great beginning of her business, but it's not like, you know, this, it will be a great moment, but you have to build on that momentum. Yeah. Yeah.

It was a crazy story. And when I found out it was Deanna Manzo's daughter, I didn't recognize her. Her name is Lexi, right? I mean, I remember from the early seasons, she looked so different. I had no idea. It came up on my, I saw this whole thing happen naturally. It came up on my for you page. She opens her video.

Bethany Frankel is a weird out. And I was like, oh, I wonder why. I'm sad. And I had no idea. that it was her. And also I feel like in business, even if Bethany I've never posted the second video, in business, like these are like shitty things that happen sometimes along the way that you're like, well, damn, that didn't go our way. And damn, we got a little bit screwed here and there. Now with like the internet, you can blow up every slight and like make a moment of it. But like these

things happen. Not only that, but nothing happened. Like look, when you are a brand selling, sending clothing to a celebrity, what is your biggest hope that they wear them? She's literally at the biggest event of the weekend besides Derminify Night. She's at Sports Illustrated. She's being paparazzi, he holds up the picture, literally wearing your shoes. What more could you want? And you told us now this is the second time she's worn them. So she did exactly what you wanted her to wear them. You also wanted her to post them. But like it's honestly giving Rosie and Kelsey the obsession with posting. No, I get it. As like a small brand when you send somebody gifting, like your hope and dream and wish upon a star is that they blow it up and post a million things. But you have to be okay with you voluntarily asking us. This happens all the time. I'm always saying like, I sent this influencer. And it's like you're begging someone to send them product. They let you send you. And sometimes they'll blow it up, wear it all the time. They love it so much. Sometimes they don't like it and never wear it. And sometimes it's something like this where like they wear it and they don't blow it up in the way that you wanted them to.

But like the expectation that you're just sending product to somebody who would probably get paid by a shoe brand, $100,000 for a TikTok or two. Like she wore them and she wore them to a major event. What more do you want? Yeah, I guess like this small slight was posting the dupe. Right. The dupe culture. Like we can get into dupe culture. With an affiliate link.

But that was only because they were sold out. Right. So what would you have liked her to post? post. Just like tagging that they were. But she made the video saying that they were new. She hadn't posted it yet. Yeah.

So I think all in all, yeah, she'll have a great moment. I'm sure she has no regrets about what she did. But big picture, I don't think this was the move. No, and I don't think Bethany's now going to be like working with a lot of small businesses, like with TikTok followings. Yeah. No, I mean, I don't know. Everyone makes a video about something.

Like everyone's trying to like make their moment on someone else's thing. Yeah. But at the end of the day, like we're still talking about Bethany. So thanks. We are always talking about Bethany. Yeah. everything she does. She can't wear a pair of shoes and post a link.

Correct. She looked great. Yes, she did look great. Okay, next story. Are you ready? Double date news. Jacob Allorty and Kendall Jenner. Triple date.

I heard Justin and Haley were there. With Kylie and Timothy and allegedly Justin and Haley. That's what Dumoximo said. Okay. Well, that makes it be more. I guess like Kylie and Kendall maybe are going to like Hidden Hills or like family-owned car. Yeah. Well, if it was just the four of them.

Obsessed. We were just talking about like, do you think that Jacob, Lorde and Timothy Jalemi? like the potential brother-in-law or do they beef with one another because they probably like kill each other for roles. I think they're different enough. And again, I think like Timothy is overly confident in his craft. Jacob definitely like works on it in the mirror with mantras. Yeah. I mean like, hi Timothy. Nice to meet you. Hi, Timothy. How was your tag? I'm really happy for you Timothy. Timothy, you look great in orange. Timothy, I loved you in Martin Supreme. But I think Timothy can like, you know, be friends with him. And I think this is cute. And I also,

I just want to say I really like Kendall and Jacob Alorty. Like, yeah. I mean, and they dating your twin brother, but yeah. They went to Hawaii, so like they're actually dating. And I would love to see Kenny, you know. Settle town. Yeah. I just don't get the vibe that like Jacob's in his settling down era. Even though every time I watch an interview of his, he's like extremely well adjusted.

He like is not a fame like whore. He brings his mom everywhere. Like I get the vibe. He just like loves baseball and his friends and his mom. Yeah. I just get the vibe that he's like ready to settle down. Even though nothing he does gives me that. And I don't know if she is.

Like she's not like made any sort of like proclamation that like she feels differently. Right. Right. Well, cute double date. Super cute. Speaking of like people who have dated Kendall Jenner, can we talk about Harry Styles really quickly? Sure. I don't know if you saw it over the weekend because it, I feel like it largely happened on TikTok.

It was opening night of his. Liz Woods is keeping me a breath of his swap era. Opening night of his weekend, opening weekend of his tour, which I guess like up until recently has been really heavily criticized for its pricing. By ticket master or buy resale? I don't know. I can't get into it. But like, by the fans.

The fans are upset. But like, is Harry actually making the money? Is it like Dela or Swift? What's dynamic pricing? Which people hate. He's putting these huge arenas. And so there was a lot of expectations were high because if you're going to charge it must.

And I feel like with the Eros tour, like every person who said that they had to like sell, you know, take their kid out of college for a semester just to pay for tickets. Didn't regret it. Like after the show, they were like, you know what? We got a four hour show. I feel good about there really wasn't a lot of backlash. And she did everything she could to keep the prices down. But like with scalpers and she didn't do dynamic pricing.

So the expectations were high for Harry. opening weekend was just like kind of a flop. According to people who were there, like I didn't go and I didn't watch any of the footage, but the criticism I'm seeing for people who were there was like, first of all, it was completely bright in the stadium, which was just like a weird vibe. This stage is the biggest thing you've ever seen. He doesn't really sing a lot of his like big notes. He's like not singing well.

He has the wired microphone running around this like big stage. Like the criticisms were, we're there. And I just feel like nobody kind of wants to hear it, but we have been talking for, you know, quite a few weeks and months that like this most recent drop of his. And we do always compare it to like the other pop girlies. And I'm not like glad he's getting criticism. But like if this was a female who like was charging thousands of tickets and like gave a very mid performance where like they're not even singing the notes to their own songs,

like we would all be talking about it. So we have to talk about it. It's a quality. Yeah. It's quality. Like and I think that the ERIS tours are really good comparison because he's playing really huge venues. It's not really delivering.

Interesting. It's been an interesting weekend for her styles. I saw a couple of unfortunate clips that like I. I don't want to judge the whole show based on. I know because there used to be like people would post of Taylor being like, this is your queen and it's her dancing. And also like people would post used to post like, it's just about the context. They used to post clips of Harry Styles just standing there and be like, oh my God, it's amazing.

Here he is again standing there and it's no longer amazing. So I'm not like I, you don't want to just take a snapshot. But I guess, yeah, the discourse isn't super positive. But he did just have a baby and he's in his new mama era. So I think he didn't have a baby. So I think he's doing what he can. That's what we would say about a woman. No.

But like, what's his excuse? He's engaged. He's in his new mama era. But maybe stress from the wedding planning. No, I don't know what his excuse is why he would have lost his voice. Yeah, like not even singing. That's the weird part. Like, a lot of times you can criticize whatever you don't like the outfits.

But like if they sing. Why does he keep his shirt on, you know? Like, why doesn't he- That would be an easy fix. Just take your shirt off or something. Yeah. Or your pants. Like, seriously, everyone would be really happy.

Wasn't he always shirtless before? I think like his schick is just like a little over. Yeah. You know, like always with the male dancers and sexy male. And it's like, well, all you've ever done is date. the most beautiful women in the world. So like, not to be, not to be woke, but like, it's given queer baiting. Yeah.

And so I feel like a lot of his schick is also, it's like, culture is, like, we're not really into the woke stuff. Like, people are, like, moving on a little bit. So you don't think it would be, like, help if he put on a dress? I don't know. People do love when he wears a dress. And it gets people talking. That's the thing.

Yeah. Yeah. I feel like the thing with Harry Stiles is like no one's talking. Like, we don't really care. Like, the album stunk and, like, people are, like, not living for him in his engagement. Like, five years ago, not even three years ago. If you told me, Harry Stiles got engaged, like the world would have been turned upside down.

Nobody cares. I kind of care. I feel like I care more than other people. Yeah. Like, I don't know why. He's just, like, not making an impact. Yeah. And it's not like he's been a clips.

Like, who's, like, the new male pop star. No one. But if you think about, like, the males who are having a moment right now, would be, like, somber and role model. And it's just, like, a different vibe. Yeah, it's a different vibe. And the vibe that he chose for this era was, like, 80s businessman. Yes.

It's giving 80s businessman, yes. And that's not like, you know, the moment right now. He's not meeting the moment. Yeah, it's, it's, it's, and I mean, even Benzson is like almost going to, like, break his neck throwing flips. But Benson is doing like OG Harry stuff because there are a lot of comparisons, which is very like Freddie Mercury coded and it's working for Benson.

Right, but Benson is doing more than Harry, you know? Yes, yes. Harry's doing the least. Yeah. Yeah, no, it's just been interesting to be. Benson's throwing tricks at every show. Flips and schmips and handsprings, yeah. Yeah.

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Thank you. You're welcome. How did everybody like my paperwork today? We liked it. Yeah, it was good. Thank you, Dan. I feel like if you're listening as an audio, you probably heard like shuffling.

That was me just shuffling my papers. Classic, Dan. Remember when we were at Dear Media, and we did the photo booth for Face Foundry, and we sent the photos to my husband's email. Oh, yeah. Because it was like a touchscreen. I had to write like Claudia.

Like, so Jackie said her husband's email so simple. It's very short. And so he just texted us the photos. Oh. Yeah. Like they're actually kind. There's one that's really good. I don't know.

I was like looking like big face. No, but it's like a black and white photo booth. It's like parge. But it was just funny. I forgot that we did that. I'm cute. Oh, and it's a little jiff. You know, like Monday morning he got on his work email.

I'm seriously cracking up. Like we were thinking of him. Like imagine such a. treasure in your inbox. It was a Spritz event. Like Spritz was served. Oh, big Spritz news coming tomorrow. And I feel like we've really undersold, like, what we created.

Yeah. We've created something amazing. Kind of like an industry leading. It's going to kind of change, like, the whole alcohol game. I know it sounds crazy. I'm not being drama, but like. Watch the space. Watch the space and check the Sprits Instagram tomorrow.

Next up. We filmed a commercial at Jackie's house. Yeah, we did. Like an actual commercial. Yeah, we did. Next up, Gucci show, making news. I would say the lead story, Tom Brady, making his. making his catwalk debut at the Gucci show.

Oh, I'm sorry. You know, just speaking about Gucci and Demna reminded me of like an inappropriate joke about children I wanted to bring up. Okay. I hate to be like woke mama. Do it. But there was a joke.

I watched SNL. You know, they do once a year where we can update Michael and it's actually so funny. I always watch them. I don't really love SNL, but at the end of every season, we can update the two co-hosts who are Michael Che and Colin Jost. They write jokes for one another.

And they have to read them. And they don't get to see them before. so Michael writes jokes for Colin. They're always like really racist and Colin writes jokes for Michael and they're always like sexually inappropriate. And one of the jokes like actually wasn't funny. Like it really made me sick.

And I'm not seeing enough hate. No. Oh. Michael Jackson jokes, I'm sorry. Like they are funny. Okay. So Colin, Colin wrote this for Michael Che. And it was like, new reports say that like drinking grape juice is like

50% more likely to give you an erect penis or whatever. Which makes sense because all my boyfriends love grape juice. and they show a picture of like an actual six-year-old with a juice box. Oh, no, because all my boyfriends are erect. Yeah. What? Yeah. You want to find it?

No. It was insane. I was like, I was enjoying up until then. I'm like, oh, ha-ha. And then I was like, what? I swear, it was really yucky, like, talking about a child and saying erect. Like, seriously, are people fucking okay? Hollywood is never beating the pedophilia allegations.

Like, I'm sorry, every time they, like, start to call Demna. Like, I'm sorry, it's weird. But they are pedophiles. I know. in Hollywood. I know. So it's like they can't beat them because they are them. And like where is like the, you know that like mother's group, like mothers against truck

driving and there's like a mother's group for TV? Yeah. They need to go after that. Like Colin Joseph. I'm sorry, you're disgusting for that. Yeah. And I was just starting to really like Colin Jost. He was on New Heights like being hilarious.

Yucky. Like seriously, yucky. Stop making jokes about kids. Like seriously. If you can't be funny without talking about pedophilia, like maybe you're just not money. Yeah. Unless you want to make jokes about the pedophiles and make fun of the pedophiles. I said pedophilia.

Yeah. And not pedophiles. Yeah. Yeah. That is Michael Jackson. Like I said, I'm always down for a Michael Jackson joke. Okay. Well, Gucci show and everyone was there, but now, like, Demna is Gucci.

I know. So I was like, why is everyone going Gucci? And it's because of Balenciaga. And you know what? Like, maybe everyone will stop. Because, well, I don't think it was Demna who was, like, giving the weird child vibes. I think he's amongst. Oh, really?

Yeah, yeah. I thought it was like, yeah, maybe. Okay. Yeah. And I think then people started looking into Demna and they didn't like what they thought. Oh. Oh. So then, like, Demna went to Gucci and now everyone.

at Gucci and that's not good. Yeah, everyone was at Gucci. Tom Brady, Alex Earl, Kim Kardashian. Paris Hilton. And like Alex Earl gets invited to a Gucci event. Like, I don't expect her to not go. Like, and she's just like operating at such an A-list level right now. One thing about me, I never blame Alex Earl for anything.

No, but there are some people who have choices. Yeah. And they choose to do this. Yeah. And also like randomly. Like Tom Brady, like you aren't a model. You aren't a fashionista. I saw him like mean mug and he's like, he's seriously a stereotype.

He's Ben Stiller. He's like this. He's like this. He watched the Zoolander. Like he was giving Blue Steel. in like the Zoolander leather outfit. He looked like so silly. He seriously is like no shame.

Yeah. I'm such a Tom Brady hater. Yeah. Paris Hilton also walked the show. In a wig. In Amanda Betula wig. Yeah. Yeah.

She also has choices, you know. Yeah, absolutely. Kim has choices. She has less choices than others, but she has choices. And Tom Brady has choices. Yeah. It was in the middle of Times Square. And these are the choices that they need.

Yeah. And it's crazy because like Alex Earl, and I'm sure she just like wears what she's told to her. But she was like literally wearing like an actual like fashion Nova gray body con dress. It's like, that's Gucci. You know that dress is like probably $2,000. But she doesn't have choices.

No, no, I don't, I never blame Alex Earl. You guys know that. Like, she's just, like, happy to be there. Yeah. Like, honored. Honored, yeah. And she'll get to a place where, like, she has choices. And I know she'll make the right ones.

I know her dad will make the right one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But until she has to do these things to get to the place choices. Of course. So, yeah. Gucci. Gucci. Our fifth and vinyl story, a little baby mama drummer.

Oh my God. And Pete Davidson are like really, you know, Beefing publicly. So Elsie Hewitt called out Pete Davidson after their split. As a source refutes her claim that he doesn't support their daughter. So Elsie Hewitt started responding to comments. She made a video on TikTok just talking about how she's like doing this alone and she still has to work. And she's just like sort of like rattling off sort of motherhood musings, which would have been relatable.

But people are also like, your baby daddy is a famous person. So like, why are you struggling? And so the comments were like, I hope this doesn't mean you're doing this alone financially too. And she was like, yep. She has since deleted the comments confirming that like Pete is a deadbeat financially, emotionally. Pete also then via a rep said that this is not true. He's covering actually all of the baby's costs. Yeah.

So I don't know what to believe. So I'm going to give two responses. Okay, here's my response if Pete Davidson is a deadbeat. You're literally disgusting and I hate you. Shame on you. And I think you're one of the lowest levels of human beings. And like you should actually change everything about yourself. off. I think you're disgusting. I just want to say I just because I have like a hard time believing when

people can be so horrible. Especially if they've not like show evil if they've not shown like evil horrible behavior. I don't think he's going to be like dad of the year. Partner of the year sure. But like sending a cell to go like to go like to go from being excited about the birth of your child to like leaving the mother of your child and your child financially stranded when you are of means. Like I I can't I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you're not doing evil that you're not that horrible. Okay. So I actually. don't believe that it's that. Yeah.

I don't believe it. Oh, okay. Like, I'm in disbelief. So you're doubting postpartum women. No, I think it's like, you know, a difference of language and stuff. Plus she deleted the comment. Yeah, right. She also could be like refusing to accept his help because she's so mad at it.

Right, for whatever he did. And so she's like, I'm going to do this by herself, like by myself. Fuck you. I don't want anything from you. I can do it by myself. I do want to say like I, whether or not this is true, I blame Pete Davidson wholeheartedly for everything. Like, this is a postpartum woman.

Like, just do whatever she says. Like seriously, give her money. Don't give her money. Like, do whatever she fucking says. And the disillusion of their relationship, like, I'm sorry, it is disgraceful when you have a four-month-old. And I'm just, like, I'm mad at both of them. But, like, I can't be mad at her. She's postpartum.

I'm like, do whatever you want. Yeah, I saw a clip, especially because I don't know what happened between me, right? Me neither. Who's to blame? Maybe he was around and wanting to be around, but it was not a good, not a good scene, you know? I saw a clip of them having said that, like, on their first date, like, she said, like, you're going to be the father of my children. I hate, like, when people, like, people in Hollywood, it's just like, they're just not real people.

Like, I'm saying that we should talk about them as much as we do. Like, we should really change subjects. Like, no, I'm insane. But, like, so that part came true. Yeah. But so did they also, like, not. What are you not saying? No, like, I just don't understand.

And also, is there going to be more kids? Like, oh, God, no, please. Like, I don't know. I just don't understand this situation because they seem so happy and they were excited about this and excited about parenthood. And I was excited. And even though it's hard, you know, you know, You know? It's very hard. Maybe it's just like so much harder than they thought it would be.

Like I don't know what. But then it's harder to do it alone. Of course. And I don't know what could have happened between two people, famous or not, like, who were like in love up until recently. What could have happened to make you separate when you have a four month old? Like. But then also, and I give a postpartum new mama great at the wazoo, but then she posted

on her Instagram story. Yeah, this was weird. Trying to find a nanny, mother's helper, assistant type on her Instagram. through Instagram wants people to reach out to her email address to apply to be her nanny. And I just want to be clear that like a nanny, a mother's help her an assistant or three different people. Like you can't have an assistant who's also a nanny. Like that's not the same. No. Are you looking for a work assistant? Are you looking for someone to help with the baby or to help you? You're looking for a nurse? Yeah. Like what are you looking for? Yeah. Those are two separate things.

Yeah. And you're not going to find it on Instagram. No. Posting for that on Instagram is the worst With your child. You're going to let a stranger from the internet. Come help with like your famous baby. Right, right. Is the worst idea I've ever heard. Ever. Like, and this is where, like, where you're a celebrity, you have access to these, like, staffing companies and agencies who can help you find a nanny.

So, like, I don't know, you're, it is such a, what she is accusing him of is, like, so evil that, yes, it's not Congress. He's not the best guy ever. But he's, as far as we know, not an evil person. So to leave your baby mama, when you are, like you said, of me and high and dry with no money, no help, no food. Thank God. I.

She has a Bobby partnership. Hopefully they're setting her formula. You know, like, and also, like, who was she before this? Does she, nepo? Who was she dating before this? She did, like, Seth Brogan or something? She dated someone, like, Brando. Yeah, someone big.

And what was she, how did she meet these guys? Because was she famous? I think she's like a nepo. She dated Jason Stakes and Betty Blanco and Ryan Philippi. Okay. And let me just Google Elsie Hewitt Job. Like, what does she do? I feel like she might be a model or?

She's a model. An actress or an influencer? She's a model actress and social media influencer. She's well known for her roles in industry and Dave. All right. So by the way. And those are big shows. And major campaigns with guests.

That's what she's known for. I think she was discovered in like a guest campaign. Okay, cool. And then she was named Playboys Miss June in 2017. Wait, here's a little video coming up. Who is Halsey Hewitt? Three things to know. One, she shares a daughter with ex-boyfriend, P. Davidson.

Okay. Next. It's filled with, like, quotes. Hold on. This little package People Magazine made. She's a model and actress. She moved to LA at age 10. She modeled for brands like Gassim was Playboy.

So yes, exactly like you said. Thank you so much. Yes. The first role was in a 2018 series called Ternt. Also, number three, she's a foodie. Elsie eats? Yeah.

Yeah. She likes food. That's unique. Yeah. A lot of her content link is giving manic, but postpartum is sort of a manic time. And I just... And the internet responds to mania.

Yeah, they do. And they encourage it too. They enable it. So I just really hope she's doing well. And I hope she finds a nanny or a nurse or whatever. And I hope Pete comes through with like a bag of money. Yeah. Just like give money.

Give money. Like if you can't give your heart, you can't give your time. You can't give your energy, you bitch. Just give money. I just want to say... Zell. Cash up.

Back to Kelsey. Because when she was saying... It's Kelsey. From Real House of I, I'm like her name is Elsie. Real House of Sipar Island. How her man is like paying. for her like rent and like helping her with like utilities even though she's like broken up with him

and moved out and like. Two years ago. Carnishing him on television and like has a new boyfriend. She said I watch Robin's live. He loves the show so much and he wishes that he obviously, Andy said he gave the production zero approvals on using his photo, his name, anything. But Kelsey says he loves the show now. That's so cute.

I just want to say like she's really got it made in the shade for herself. Like and the fact that she's got this guy like paying her bills after they broke up. And she said like if we were married 10 years, I'd have something. So like why not get a little. something even though I've just been the girlfriend. And the fact that like she's literally in the show having a boyfriend, like while she has a boyfriend, she's like considering her options like under his roof. I just.

But she's not and she never was. Like this is all fake and she's a concubine. Because I would be like worried you'd get kicked out of the house for like being with another guy at the polo match. Yeah. But she really, she must be so fabulous that her boy, her OG boyfriend like doesn't, you know, he just wants to help her and support her and love her. Is concubine like a slur?

I think it's like Yeah, no, I know what it means Like, I think it's like the word Yeah, okay, I mean if the shoe fits Like, and shout out to Margaret Justice For teaching me that word Who did she call a concubine? Jennifer Aden

Oh yeah But that was a stretch Jennifer Aden has six children with the man So like, oh right, she doesn't work Like that's fine I kind of feel like Kelsey's sort of textbook Yeah, no, sure Maybe she's a concubine

I just feel like that word feels like And you say she doesn't have a job That's the definition of a concubine That's her job Yeah That's her job But I also want to know, like, what was she doing in that house for eight years without a job? Well, she was really technically in it for four years because the other, like, 50% of the time.

No, no, but she was still in the house. Yeah, but she was in the house with the owner of the house and like living a full life. No, I understand what I'm doing. Yeah. You are working for your man. So the cumulative four years, like, what was she doing living there alone? Yeah. How was she filling her days?

I mean, like, definitely gets lonely in the palace. Like, she wasn't on the show. She wasn't running a business. She wasn't doing anything. Like, what was she doing? And that was probably her biggest mistake was not using those eight years to, like, build something that she could walk away with. Yeah. Like you literally had eight years.

I hope she was like squirreling away a little money. I don't get the sense that she was. You don't think she was squirreling? No. I hope that she was. But it seems like money just, you know, people just give her money. Yeah, she's just one of those girls like where it appears. Like, I wish I had a dollar.

Because I was worried, of course, like you have to leave the mansion. I'm going to have to get like a condo or something, a job and how you're going to. And she's just like he's giving her money. Yeah. And I just think it takes a little. special kind of woman to get that. You're so wrapped up in the pretty privilege. Like, it's insane. No, I think, I think she's

one of the best to do it. To be beautiful? Yeah, like, some people, like, have a rich boyfriend, sugar dagon. In the minute, they disrespect them. They're out on their ear. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, literally, some people, their husbands, like Lisa Hachsey, and she gets thrown out. She has two kids with the man. Elisha's not even on the deed for her house. That's really crazy. She has, like, and so Kelsey really got herself set up

nicely. Yes, yes. So credit to her. You're so toxic. Why? Just are. Why? I hate disagreeing with you. Like, I just hate it. No, and your criticisms are very valid. I know. But I want to focus on the positive. But I don't want to fight. No, I don't want to fight either, but I can't believe you like Rosie. No, I know, because it's in Congress with me. She's so crazy weird. Like, but I just feel like that's how right she is. And that's how mean everyone's being to her. Okay. Even though I feel like she's not wrong in this situation. I don't think she's so right. I think she's.

Because also, like, what if she is not being, hasn't been genuine this entire time? Well, I need that to be proven. I need her, like, I need the blueprints to the house. Like, I need someone to be, like, showing me. Like, you can't just say she's lying about adding 5,000 square feet. And then Kelsey was like, it's less than that. It's like, okay, you don't even have a house.

Yeah. But, like, if she's going around saying like 8,000 square feet, 8,000 square feet, and it's not. Like, well, what is it? Yeah. And now, by the way, I hope she's updated her plans because it has to be. Of course. Like seriously, just put like a garage in. Yeah, right.

Get it done. A big porch. Yeah. This is giving real houses of Atlanta when they were all buying new houses and like lying to each other about like more manner, chateau shiree about like they didn't have baseboards. Like that was seriously so funny. This is what it's giving.

That's funny. Yeah. Well, there you go. That's your show. That's your show. I think it was a good one. And the place really does look great. It always does.

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