The Toast - Prude and Proud with Taylor Strecker: Thursday, June 12th, 2025

Episode Date: June 12, 2025

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It's Jackson Claude and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show. The fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome it's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to the Toast. Happy Thursday.

Happy Taylor Strecker Thursday. Hey, girl, hey. Oh my god, thank you for the hey, girl, hey. It really means the world, Jackie. I am so excited for this. Like, there are no words. I'm honored, I'm thrilled. I literally, I put my porgiest, pargiest foot forward,

like I'm so ready to go. No, you are the elk of Toast co-hosts today. Like you look so cute. You're sitting in Claudia's studio in her setup. So it's gonna like, unless you look too closely, like you might not know this isn't original recipe toast cause Taylor like is so toasty. You are have the look down.

Like I'm really excited to podcast with you. You and I have been podcasting together in forever. This is so long overdue. I am so excited. And the thing is, I also haven't caught up with you friend to friend in forever because I saw you a few weeks ago at Claudia's place. I couldn't have been more stressed out as an individual.

Really? Why? Because just like- Just like with my kids, I just had a lot going on. So I didn't get to like catch up with you. You honestly, I didn't even notice a bead of sweat on your brow. Your kids are so gorgeous.

I was literally, I was like dying for them. I mean, all the babies in the Autre lineage are just like, they're stunning. Oh, thank you so much. They're so sweet. Me, it's so much fun, but I was like, you know, they're just, they run wild. So I'm like wrangling them.

And a lot of my friends were at the bar, so I haven't seen in a while and like, no, I did not get to catch up and have meaningful combos with anyone. So today I'm gonna have a meaningful combo with you. I'm so excited. I cannot wait. How are you doing?

I am great. I took the subway here. First of all, I just want to note it. That's worth mentioning. Thank you. That's like a really big deal. It's also important to note for Claudia specifically that I was not just prompt and on time today.

I was actually technically like three minutes early. And you know, Claudia and I, I'm always late for her. So I don't know if it's good that I was early for you or it's actually gonna be like a bigger bone of contention. Or it's like, maybe you're so used to running late that when you're running early, you're not yourself. Right, right, right. You know, like you're off kilter.

Right, exactly. So, but I just want Claudia to know that I was really good in prom today. And it was- Because you took the subway? Well, just because like I respect Jax. Like I would never ever make Jax wait. I would make Claudia wait. And the toasters, honestly we're being real.

I think it's scarier to leave the toasters hanging, where's the episode? No, we can't have it. I mean, the way that, I don't know if it's just a Jersey City thing, because I live in Jersey City, but I get recognized by toasters. I get toasted every single day.

It's unbelievable, unbelievable. Well, you also must get recognized, because you're kind of the big star these days, and your star is rising. You're on television. Like, word on the street is that you're gonna be on television more, and you're just kind of a small screen princess.

I mean, thank you, yes. I'm finally the reality star that I've always been meant to be. I think I said three words on Vanderpump Villa. All of them very troublesome and poignant. Like, not me making a fucking incest joke, which, by the way, I really thought was gonna get cut out because after we were done filming,

I was talking to a producer and he said to me, do you like think before you talk or like do you just like willy-nilly by the seat of your pants? And I was like, I mean, I've done like radio podcasting for like almost 20 years. So like, I don't like come with like lines in my head, but like, yeah, I mean, I'm always cognizant of what I'm gonna say.

Right. And he was like, really? The incest joke? And I was like, oh, it was a joke. And he was like, well, don't worry, that is not airing. And then when I saw it air, I was like having a panic attack because I was like, wait, like, am I gonna get canceled? Which isn't really even a thing.

Well, somebody liked it. Somebody liked your joke. Somebody did. And then like poor Bo's sister, cause it was kind of a joke at her expense. And she is like, she's Italian. So like there's also some like, some things that are lost in translation.

Yes. So I was like, maybe I'll get away with it cause she won't understand my like, law and order SVU reference. But the people in the audience did and they've been DMing her. And I'm like, oh, and now I feel like any nasty DM she gets, they're like, they're my fault.

There's blood on my hands. Oh my God, that's so rough. I know, but she's so sweet. She's like, it's okay, don't worry. But she's like, the people are mad that I'm in love with my brother. I'm like, oh fuck. Hopefully they have a better mentality

about like getting online hate, maybe the thicker skin, maybe like, I feel like they would, the Italians. The Italians, yeah, they're, yeah. I agree. I think that they kind of like, they're laissez faire. They don't live in the comments. They don't live in the comments.

They have better things to do, like drink wine and eat cheese and be skinny. Like what is wrong with our food in this country? Don't even get me started. Well, Taylor, I didn't think it was gonna be that kind of episode. I'm always willing to go there. I'm always willing to talk about what's wrong

with the food in our country. And that's why like I love Ozempic as a concept because modern solutions for modern problems. I mean, I like what a time to be alive. I feel hashtag blessed. Like my mom is so jealous that I get Ozempic in my 40s. Like she's like, that's not fair. Like she's approaching her 70s and she's like,

I had to wait my, like, she's like, do you know the quality of life I would have had if I had had this medication at the fingertips? Like she is, she's jellyfish big time. No, I'm jellyfish too. Like I feel like my timing is decent on Ozempic. Like it's waiting for me one day, but like it would have been nice to have in my twenties

when I was, you know, starving for my wedding. Like that would have been nice, but like I'm not gonna nitpick because I look forward to like a long future with Ozempic, but I did like, it did come about like right when I was moving on from being like toxically obsessed with my weight. Sad. I know I feel like I had finally gotten there and then they're like, oh wait, here's a thing

that can make you go like, oh, remember all the hard work I did? LOL. That was a joke. That was just a joke. Here I am. Like I'm still on it. I've been on it since Brian Kelly's 40th birthday. Which means- Well you look amazing. Thank you. How is it, like do you feel like your life has changed? I feel like a new woman.

I actually did not take my shot this week because I was like when we were in Miami for Stassi doing Sports Illustrated. Yeah. I was just like, I wanted to like have fun and drink. So I kind of took like a lower dosage. And then like, I kind of got like, like off my my specific day.

So this week I was like, I'm just gonna skip this week and just recalibrate. But it's crazy because I don't like me not on this medication, and it's not even really about necessarily I'm not losing weight this week or I'm gaining weight. It's not that. It's like I have such an such an OCD obsessive brain

and like, trust, I have a therapist and like we're on all the medications, but there's something about Ozempic that like aside from the food stuff, it quiets the food noise, but it quiets like the anxiety. Like I've been anxious this week and I'm telling you it's because I'm not, I didn't take my shot.

I'm telling you. I think it's all connected. That doesn't sound so far fetched to me. Okay, good. Yeah, I think, I mean, not that I'm telling you it's because I'm not, I didn't take my shot, I'm telling you. I think it's all connected. That doesn't sound so far fetched to me. All right, good. Yeah, I think, I mean, not that I'm a scientist, but the science is science-ing for me. Like it's definitely connected to like some sort of obsessiveness, you know, in your brain.

And I think I fixated on the food for so long. Like I thought it was all about the food. And then on the OZOMBIC I was like, oh wait, no, this is, I'm just an obsessive girly. Like I thought it was all about the food. And then on the other side, I was like, oh wait, no, this is, I'm just an obsessive girly. Like I, she can't shut it off. If it's not the food, it's gonna be something else, you know? But at least the food noise is quieted. Right, well thank you for bringing your most anxious,

hungriest self to the toast today. That's like the sort of energy that we need here. I am starving. It am star, starving. It's been a week and a day since I had my shot and literally like, I'm gonna eat Claudia's makeup that's next to me. We have some snacks in the studio. So like as soon as we wrap, don't worry.

Claudia and I like talk about all the time on the show, like what we're gonna eat when the show's over. And then we like rush through the end of the show because we're so hungry. I mean, there is McDonald's next door that was not lost on me. My favorite establishment in all of the world. So I might have to hit it up.

As I complain about the food issues in this country, I go across the street to McDonald's. Right, but like, you didn't put it there. No, God did, for me. Those golden arches calling my name. Literally. No, and you're working hard this morning and you're gonna do a fantastic job

because we have a great show for you guys. Textbook toast, five stories, Taylor on the ones and twos. You're probably one of the few people on earth who like podcasts as much as Claudia and I and like talk every day as much as Claudia and I. Yes, I know we're a rare breed actually. It's kind of crazy when you think about it, right?

It does. How are you feeling about the state of pop culture these days? it, right? It does. How are you feeling about the state of pop culture these days? Like, what are you thinking? Huh? I mean, I'm not going to lie. I feel like I'm drowning in Blake Lively, but I'm also not mad at it. I'm kind of addicted and I really like vacillate back

and forth. Like I have no spine. I am spineless. I have no like, I stand for nothing. Like I, like my, my my opinions change like with one comment that I read online, which is a horrible thing to be. But like I'm very back and forth on the whole Blake Lively thing. Like I'm all over the place, but I feel like there's a lot going on

with it every single day. Me too, but I actually feel like in that situation, like the ability to be flexible in your opinions is a strength because it's so willy nilly. It is so with the wind, like we don't know actually anything. So I think like being able to say I was wrong yesterday and I'm right today and then tomorrow say I was wrong yesterday.

Like I think that's a strength in this situation. And because if you're so bullheaded about like this situation that we don't have like concretes about, then you're just like, what are you standing for? I do not know. The thing about me is like, I can always say that I was wrong. But the other thing about me is I come in

with such vitriol and venom when I have my opinion, which again could change on a dime, but like I come in like so intense that it's really hard to walk it back. You know? Like, oh God, I just like, I mean, I just think of all the enemies I've made, mostly in reality television over the years

with like my opinions and the things that I've said. And it's really, you know, it's really uncomfortable when you're at a party and you're standing next to somebody that like you have just eviscerated for the last five years. No, and like with reality TV, it's like, those people always hear it. When you talk about Blake Lively, she's never gonna hear this.

With reality TV, they, well, maybe sometimes they hear, actually, I do feel like sometimes they hear something, but with reality TV confirmed, they heard it. Their friend sent them to them. I don't know what kind of friend would send you something where someone's talking negatively about you, but okay. Honestly, that's almost as bad.

The person that tells you that people are gossiping is almost as bad as the people that are gossiping. Do you know what I mean? It's just like, that's not your friend. Like if anybody ever sends me a video of like someone talking shit about me or like the toast or something, I'm like, why would you send me that? Like, first of all, I don't care what that person thinks.

Positive or negative. I don't know that person. Why do I need to see this? And then why would you want to bring me down? Are first of all, I don't care what that person thinks, positive or negative, I don't know that person. Why do I need to see this? And then why would you wanna bring me down? Are you my friend? I don't know. Like, why are you sending me screenshots of the Facebook page that I refuse to look at?

No, thank you. I do not enjoy. It really is a wild thing. That's not a friend. You know, this is so interesting. So, years ago, I was, as we know, married to husband, and I was in like, I just like a circle of people that I don't think maybe like,

I wasn't best for them and they weren't best for me. We'll leave it at that. And so diplomatic. She really is. She's learned after a decade to fucking cool it. So, Uva Hassan from Real Housewives of New York City Reboot. She and I were really good friends, okay? And so we were at the Soho house having lunch

with another girl who was like a mutual friend. It's just like fabulous story casually dropping. Yeah, I mean, you know how I love to drop a name. She is a professional social climber. A name and a location with another friend. She has friends, they're famous. She's in a members only club. So that's what we got so far.

For the record, that was my membership. Okay, I was there under my membership. I'm the member. Okay, so this girl gets up from the table and Uba looks me dead in the eyes and she said, Amore, you cannot trust her. Don't say anything that you don't want repeated around her. Oh, and this was as I was going through the divorce.

So it was like really like- You've been friends with Uba for that long. So my mom made friends with me with Uba. She set you up. My mom, my mom has been known to make all of my friends for me. It's very embarrassing. It started when I was on a trip

in Cabos and Lucas with my family. I was a miserable little bitch. And my parents were like, we made friends for you at the hot tub. Please go out tonight and drink. You're being like Les Miserables. So this is like a long standing thing with me. My parents making my friends for me.

So it did not stop in my 30s. And she saw Uba walk, we were like laying out at Soho House and my mom said, oh my God, that's a model. I said, mom, stop being a loser. In New York, we don't like talk to famous people, like leave her alone. And as the rosé kept flowing,

Babette was like, wait a second, I absolutely need to go over and talk to this woman. And so we started talking and then my mom was like, my daughter's gonna go through a divorce, she really needs friends right now, like please take care of my baby for me. And Uba like literally took it seriously. So we were out with this girl, she got up, she walked away,

Uba said, don't trust her Amore. And I said, well, what did she say? And Uba said, I'm not repeating anything negative, you just trust me and I'm telling you, she is not to be trusted. And I was like, that is the most like classy way of having someone's back without like completely dragging them, you know, through emotional torture.

Yeah. And even like if she has any allegiance to the other girl, like while also not telling her what she, telling you what she said, cause like that's also a breach of trust, even though she's being an asshole. True, true. So that's the way to do it.

If you're gonna warn somebody, not sending somebody the mean comments, the horrible things that people are saying online about you. You know? Right, yeah. But to that point, so Blake Lively, hearing things we're talking about, I will say, I don't know about her specifically,

but like, Hailey Bieber, as far as I have heard, hears like literally everything everyone has to say. She's really like all up in the podcast, all up in like, I mean, she's DMing companies, like she hears it all, okay? She's got eyes and ears everywhere. Yeah, I think a lot of celebrities, like their assistants or friends,

like listen to like these podcasts. I don't know how many they listen to themselves as celebrities, but like, I think people in of celebrities, like their assistants or friends, like listen to like these podcasts. I don't know how many they listen to themselves as celebrities, but like, I think people in their world do. And then when someone says something about them, they share it with them. I hope more so they would share like positive ones and skip over like negative ones. But that's how it's like come back to me

in the time that we've been doing this that like I've hear so and so heard what we said. But it's typically because like, oh, my friend showed it to me. They're not like lifelong toasters now, but they hear what we say. Yeah, they hear the things, but I hope that, I hope now that I'm like on a down spiral with Blake,

I don't want her to hear anything I'm saying because like if she goes back up again, I want to jump right on that bandwagon, you know? Right, I don't think she can keep up with the volume of things that people are saying and how quickly that, especially on a podcast, I feel like it's safe. Cause it's like, is Blake Lively seriously, this episode is gonna be an hour and a half.

Is Blake Lively seriously gonna listen to that seriously? As opposed to like a tweet where it's like, she sees it in two, you know what I mean? So I feel like if you're a famous like tweeter, like you have an Instagram or you maybe even do like short form reels or TikToks, like it's two minutes. She could watch that. She's not listening to this whole podcast.

So we're safe in that. We're safe in that. Okay, great. Then I'm gonna let it rip about her today if she's in the news. I don't know. She is unfortunately in the news and I tried really hard to skip over the story

but there weren't other stories. And then it would be like, wait, why didn't I talk about this? So, unfortunately we are talking about her. I look forward to you letting it rip. Just like something new. I wanna hear something new. I wanna hear a new opinion.

Okay, I'm like, I have a tinfoil hat on. I am like really, I am like very much like spiraling conspiracy theory, like pandas like are actually dogs that like get painted in there in the zoo. So pandas are just people in suits. So I am like, I'm really down a rabbit hole with her. And I have some hella crazy conspiracy theories.

I'm ready to dish. I'm so excited. I don't think you could say anything that would be more titillating to me today. So other than that, you've just been like a glamorous girlie around town. You were just at Miami swim week, like looking part delish with Stassi,

who we actually have a Miami Swim Week story, so hopefully we'll talk about it, but she seriously looked insane. Did she have the best night of her life? It was so crazy. I was, through Stassi, I've got the chance to do a lot of cool things. Honestly, through my friendships with all of my friends

who were successful, you guys, last year getting to go to the girly, swirly, swirly girlies night out was such a fun time. So there's been like so many cool things I've done. But I have to say in terms of Stassi and like Stassi and I, we've been on tour. But there was something about this and I didn't realize it until I was actually there. It just felt so huge. And I think it was because too she was like genuinely so scared.

Like she was the day of I don't think I've ever seen her that nervous and she was kind of like like what am I doing? I'm well, I'm a mother of two. I am walking down a runway in basically my underwears like this is insane and Then to see her go from like kind of freaking out to just coming out on stage Like she literally did this thing where she had her like hands in the air and then she like put them down her body like that. And she was just like so confident and gorgeous and she looked like she was having so much fun.

And I like, I screamed like the scream I scrumped, like it was like guttural. Like I, like I don't think I'll ever be that excited about something ever again in my entire life. And it kind of feels weird because it was my friend just wearing a bikini. And I'm a lesbian, so that's a little... No, it symbolized so much more.

I feel like everybody who walked the runway who's not a traditional model, they were breaking down barriers in some way for something. But I feel like for Stassi, it was so many different things. Like first, like a mother of two and Messer isn't even like that old. So like she's the snatchler. He's under two still.

So like in less than two years, snatched to the gods. Like, oh, you it could be you too. You know, it's so inspirational for women. And then also like after everything that she's been through, like her being so on top and in a peak she's never even saw at her previous peaks. Oh my God, it's just amazing for the industry. Yeah, it was amazing. If you can see her, you can be her.

But by the way, I never ever want to walk down a catwalk in a bathing suit. In my bathing suit? No. I don't even want to walk from my lounge chair to the pool in my bathing suit. I will jump in in a maxi dress. That's the thing about me. The good news is, is I don't even want to walk from my lounge chair to the pool in my bathing suit. I will jump in in a maxi dress. That's the thing about me.

Literally. The good news is I don't know if they're gonna be asking us anytime soon, but just know, just know, Sports Illustrated, the answer is no. Yeah, I want everyone listening to know that the reason why you won't see me is because I said no. Me. I could never.

I could never. Also, Stassi is filming a docuseries, y'all. Yeah, docuseries Stassi says with Hulu and exciting things are in the pipeline. I'm gonna say it like that. I feel like we can expect to see you. I think you are, I think you are correct. Like as a best friend,

like I would hope that you're around your friend. Absolutely. You know, I'm everyone's, I'm the number one, number two. So like, let's go. Clay Aiken who I'm literally taking that from Clay Aiken. He doesn't need it anymore. It's mine now. Is that what he used to say about himself?

He was the number one, number two. He never came in first place. He was always coming in second, but like notably second. There's something so strong about always coming in second. Like I feel like you're, you get to like live your best life cause second is like insanely like such an achievement. You don't have the pressure of being number one. You always have something to strive towards.

I feel like when people hit number one in anything, they sort of have this like, I don't want to speak like I'm on love Island, but I was about to say crash out and I'm not going to say it because if I start talking like these morons on love Island that I'm watching, like I'm on Love Island, but I was about to say crash out and I'm not gonna say it because if I start talking like these morons on Love Island that I'm watching, I'm gonna be really depressed. But when you hit number one, you sort of,

I'm sorry, crash out. Because it's like, well, what do I do now? Like there's no more, like you sort of like realize everything else that's like missing in your life. So I feel like number two is the place to be. Yeah, it feels really good. And like, you only have up to go really. And if you drop down, it's just a bronze medal,

silver, like whatever, you're still meddling. You still achieve such greatness that people could never even conceive of in their lifetime. It's enough for me, Dainu. Exactly, like I mean, my favorite thing to say is that like I've been riding Stassi's coattails since 2013 or whatever the fuck we met. So-

Thanks Patrick. Yeah. Thank you man bun so much for your service. So, I mean, really bless that guy. I have him. I should really send him like a fruit basket or something. You know? No, it's so crazy that you and Stassi met

because she was dating Patrick who had a serious XM radio show. That's where you worked. And you were just like and Stassi met because she was dating Patrick, who had a Sirius XM radio show, that's where you worked, and you just met Stassi in the office. So she actually came into Sirius to do my show, and I was ready to fight her, because she represented, it was season one Stassi, she represented the mean girls that I had to deal with throughout my life.

So I was like, I'm gonna really teach this girl a lesson. And then she walked in and she was like, I am obsessed with your show, I listen every day. I don't care if it was a truth or a lie. I was like, we are best friends. I mean- That's the easiest way to like neutralize me. Like I love the jokes.

I'm like, I love you. We are in love now. So we had a really great interview. And then she also listened to Patrick religiously. And then Patrick like a couple of weeks later was like, this like hot reality TV star girl slid into my Twitter DMs What is that even called? I don't even remember It's so archaic now, but he was like and she's like wants to like she's coming to New York

She wants going to date and I was like Do it because I'm no fool as a professional social climber I know what we're laying the groundwork to us being besties So I was like date her date her and in retrospect, I like kind of feel guilty for my own selfish want and desires that she had to go through that hell with him. But you know what? I came out strong on the top.

So I like, I don't really care how we got here. Like, let's go. You came out strong. And also if I'm remembering correctly, like as just a Stassi fan, she started podcasting like because of her relationship with Patrick, like everyone just had a mic on all the time.

And so that's when she was one of the first podcasters. Because she quit or she was gearing up to quit Vanderpump. And moved to New York. And so we were like, well, why don't you just get a show on Sirius? They love celebrities here. And then you'll just like, and then we should do a reality TV show.

It was called Radio in the City. I swear to God, there was like this whole pitch we went through and it was like, yeah, you're gonna like, you work at Sirius and like, I'm your best friend. I like said it before we were even that close. And then- Do you guys have like anyone working with you on this

or this was like what was spinning in your head? Yes, so her name, shout out to Foy, Erin Foy. She's a producer, she's been on Vanderpump, she's been like on Southern Charm, she's done New Jersey Housewives, I think she even did Salt Lake City. She does like everything. And she's a producer, executive producer on Stassi Says,

along with Stassi and Jenna, shout out to Jenna too. But so Foy and I, I know Foy longer than I know my wife. Isn't that insane? Wow, so then, so when Stassi moved to New York, it's like, okay, and we have a great producer who's like in with the network. So here's a great show, which by the way, it sounds like a great show and like we were robbed.

We were robbed, but- Radio in the city? Yes, but well Stassi ended up going back to Vanderpump. So that dream was crushed. Yes, yes. But, and then we actually, there's a sizzle. I think it might literally be in like the underbelly of my Instagram in feed.

And we tried to redo it again with myself and my best friend from college, who also is the reason I got my job at Sirius, Nicole on the morning mashup. And so there's like an actual proper sizzle of us retrying to do a regular in the city. And then Sirius, like we got so far, we had a production company,

and then the Mac Daddy boss at Sirius was like, now. And that was like, as quickly as it was like gonna happen, it was like quickly done, heartbreaking. Bad decision. I have been trying to do this for decades. Like, please, it's my time to shine. Well, I feel like whenever people talk about Real Housewives of New York, Recast,

Who Should Be On It, New Show in the City, your name is always thrown out there. How do you feel about that? I wanna say that I think I'm the one throwing my name out. I think I did see a clip of you on page six talking about who should be on the news. Yes, yes, yes, yes. I'm like, obviously me, I'm number one.

And I feel like it's also when Claudia Blass, Claudia and I, who should be on it, we're like Taylor Schenker, like it's literally just us. But like we're putting out the vibes. But I do think you would really be great on like Real Housewives of New York. Oh, that means the world. It really, it means the world.

It's just my dream. I do wonder though if I would like actually at the end of the day kind of suck because when we did villa I was like kind I was like actually terrified and petrified and like so aware of the cameras and like everything and I just had to like I really wanted to Like I just wanted to be in the moment because I'm so used to like broadcasting like no one's listening Yeah, but there's something about a camera that really and it's's not just one, it's like five cameramen with booms. It's really crazy. It's hard not to be aware.

And you knew who's actually such a natural and a star? My wife. That is so, I could see that. She's like so like chilled. Yeah, no, what's gonna happen? There's a camera, there's two, there's three. Oh yeah, like loves a camera. Mental illness, not fair.

She's also like techie, right? Yeah, so she also has the mind of a producer. She's comfortable around equipment. Yeah, she just loves being with that equipment. She's like, ah. She's back in the office. How long did you film Villa for? How long were you there?

We were there for 48 hours. Okay, I feel like if you were there longer, you would have gotten more comfortable in front of the cameras. Yeah, and we didn't have our phones, which was crazy cuckoo pants. I did not know what time it was ever. It really was wild.

I mean, there's reality television and then there's stuff like Villa. Like, I think below decks like this too, Summer House is like this as well, where you are under 24 seven surveillance. There are mics everywhere, there are cameras everywhere. Like, the only place you really have privacy is a bathroom. So it was really, we got dropped

into the deep end of the pool, but I think it was good. It was like bootcamp, you know? So anything after that, I think is gonna be like cake. We'll see. Yeah, I think so. That is really, really funny. Well, we look forward to hopefully seeing more of you on television.

I do feel like it's in your destiny to be on television. Like all of these false starts, you know, and like you're sort of like circling around. Like I think, I think we're meant to see you. It means the world. It really does. I think you're gonna be great regardless of your camera shyness, your late in life camera shyness.

You know, and also I just feel like, I feel like I will be misunderstood. At least I have like the toasters, my hey girl, hey girls, that like, they'll be out in the streets defending my honor, being like, no, you don't understand. You're in the tailor. You just need to get to know her and then you will love her. You will love her. Exactly.

Exactly, but we'll see. And the thing too is no matter what you say, no matter what you do, your destiny is kind of at the hands of the editors. Not to say like, oh, editing will make you look bad. If you're saying dumb shit, that's on you. Yeah, but you could have fire one-liners and they just like are left on the floor

and no one will ever know how awesome you were. Yes, and if my wife becomes a bigger star than me, like I think we're gonna have a really big problem. So everybody pray for me. And for us. I really could see that happening just because I feel like that happens a lot. Like two people where one is like,

I'm ready and then the other person just like winds up endearing people and you just like know it kills the other one. Literally me. I mean, so well, I'm at least I'm emotionally prepared for it. I'm already dealing with it in therapy. Oh, that's great.

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for being such little guys. So check out Chewy. Let's get into the stories. So we aforementioned that Blake Lively is back in the news because she is subpoena ink Scooter Braun in the latest legal move to after Justin Baltoni's lawsuit dismissal. So I thought we were gonna have a break from the news

after his defamation suit, 400 million dismissed. Like I thought she might take the win. But now she is subpoenaing Scooter Braun. So both Scooter and Hybe, which is his K-pop corporation, will be served subpoenas on Thursday. As first reported by Deadline, a notice of the upcoming move was sent to Hybe on Tuesday, so two days ago. Per the outlet, the subpoenas on Thursday. As first reported by Deadline, a notice of the upcoming move was sent to High Bee on Tuesday. Per the outlet, the subpoenas will seek documents regarding Crisis PR manager Melissa Nathan, who was previously named as a co-defendant in Lively's

ongoing case against Justin Baldoni, and the work that Melissa Nathan did for Justin Baldoni. I don't know how Scooter plays into Melissa Nathan once again, but apparently he does. This is where the conspiracy theory comes in. Go, go, go. So I think that she is whilst fighting Justin Baldoni, which has been going on since what, like December, she, I think she is now has her sights set on Taylor Swift.

I think she is, in my opinion, can be a little bit vindictive. And I think she's very like calculated. And I think as we know, or as we've heard, it seems like her and Taylor like are not in a good place. And they're doing very passive things to show us that that is the case. But they're doing very passive things to show us that that is the case.

But like when Taylor Swift wants things known, she goes out of her way to make them known. If she was supporting Blake Lively, we would know it. So there's like, there's proof in the silence. And then also with Travis Kelce, I'm following Ryan Reynolds. That was clearly, that was just not on like a drunken whim. Travis was like, I'm not gonna follow anymore.

Like that was, there was discussions not on like a drunken whim. Travis was like, I'm not gonna fall anymore. Like that was, there was discussions. I feel that Tree was involved. Like that did not happen on a whim. So with that being said, I think Blake is livid with Taylor. I think that the accusations that Blake was basically threatening Taylor to show public support for her amidst this whole lawsuit and threatening her if she did not do so by

releasing her text messages over what the course of like their friendship the last decade. I think that Scooter Braun has something to do with Taylor Swift. I think she's going to try to drag her into this. Maybe I, this is the ravings of a crazy person, but this is what I think. Well, I'm sort of with you that it's connected to Taylor Swift, but I sort of feel the opposite where it's like this isn't a big dictated move. It's like to get Taylor back like, hey, look, I'm going after your boy, like your enemy. Like, I feel like this is to sort of get not only because I'm sure

she has to have better reasons, but like this would be a move that Taylor reads. This like, ah, OK. Oh, like she's like, I'm gonna subpoena him and rip him to shreds. Like maybe and conveniently that would help her friendship with Taylor. Okay, yeah, cause an enemy of my enemy is a friend of mine and they were actually friends before, so.

Yeah, I don't think it would be a smart move for Blake Lively to like go all in on Taylor now. So I saw a TikTok and so it's like, you know, grain of salt but this girl seems like she knows what she's talking about. And she said that Blake Lively was seen with a Spice Girls watch. And she like wrote this whole paragraph on her stories about how like basically she's a hoarder

and she holds onto everything and thank God she holds onto everything and never throws anything away and holds onto everything and everything and everything. Like this watch for this party for the 90s because like she loves the Spice Girls. And this girl was saying that is a direct threat to Taylor Swift in her saying, I'm a hoarder, I hold onto everything, I always have receipts,

like don't F with me, B. Wait, I'm sorry, this person's not well. Okay, so this was Blake Lively's watch like from when she was a child. Correct. And she was going to a 90s party and she put it on. To signal to Taylor Swift, like I have things. Now when you say it back to me.

And is it like known that like Lively is a hoarder? I don't know. I could actually see her being someone who keeps things like not a minimalist. I feel like even like images we've seen of her house like I feel like, you know, she probably keeps all of her children's artwork and like anything sentimental.

Like she definitely has like pottery that she made at, you know, wine and pottery class. Like she definitely doesn't throw that shit away, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that Spice Girls watch is a new low. I told you, I told you I was like, it's like doomsday spiraling, okay? Which I'm also, I'm also getting ready

for scary things ahead. So I'm also like hoarding water and pickles. Ooh, yummy. Yeah, I can survive anything. I'm good, I'm ready to go. Do you have any desire to start canning? Ooh, that sounds amazing. What's that?

Like when you make your own can, like preserves for the apocalypse, like you can do it with a bunch of stuff. Oh, I'm so down. That sounds way better than Vienna sausages. Yeah, but you could also like buy the cans from the store, but like it's a very much like an extreme like trad way thing. Well, they also can for the season because it's like if you live on a homestead and you

farm but you want to save all your tomatoes for the whole year when they only are in season like a couple of months, then you start canning all your tomatoes so that you have tomatoes for the whole year because no, you couldn't go to the store to get them. I could get into that. I think that I need to channel this chaotic energy into something other than believing crazy theories about Blake Lively. So what's your crazy theory about her? Like overarchingly?

That she is now gunning for Taylor Swift. Like she is like actively whilst fighting Justin Baldoni, she is trying, which is psychotic, to take down Taylor Swift. If she were to do so or attempt to. I just wanna say, like as a spectator, that would be interesting to watch. I mean, I would get my popcorn ready.

I am sad. Yeah, like Mugs singing amongst the girlies who were incredibly close. Like of course sad for the friendship, but I can't imagine their friendship was ever as strong as like what you and I consider like best friendship. Yes. If you could like really turn on someone like that.

But like, do we believe that she did threaten her in some way, shape or form about releasing their text messages if she didn't like show more public support for her or do we think that that's also not true? I kind of believe it, especially cause then the source who came out who apparently like leaked it all was her daddy, Scott Swift.

Literally, so then it makes me go, okay. So like Blake is, Spick that. What you said in the beginning was spot on. When you said like Taylor is so intentional. Like she'll do, you know, subtle Easter eggs. She'll do not so subtle, but either way she's gonna let you know what she wants you to know.

And she is letting us know that she does not support Blake Lively. Exactly. And I don't think Blake, I think Blake, I'm not a doctor, but I think she is a full blown narcissist, and I don't think Blake, I think Blake, I'm not a doctor, but I think she is a full-blown narcissist. And I don't think Taylor Swift is. I don't think just because you're famous,

you don't necessarily need to be a narcissist. But I definitely think like Blake is absolutely one of them. And so even though it's, she could never win the fight against Taylor Swift. I think she is so blinded by- That's a psychotic behavior. Betrayal that she might just try it. She's off the rails.

That's really crazy. If you are listening, don't do it. Do not come. And I would have advised, like my advice now would be, especially with him getting his case thrown out, would be to like deescalate, back away, end it. It's ruining everyone involved. Everyone, although I don't think Taylor,

and I know she's no longer subpoenaed to testify on Baldoni's behalf, but like, I mean, I think she would be the only one that could come out of something like this completely unscathed, cause she's her. Yeah, and aside from, you know, giving her song to the trailer, like really, what does this woman have to do with it?

But it's also crazy. So now she's subpoenaing Scooter, Like you could just go out around subpoenaing anyone like, Hey, I want to see what you said about me subpoena. It's nuts. It really is crazy. You can find out what that girl said to Uba subpoena. Uba consider yourself subpoenaed. Oh my God. She's gonna love that. So yeah, I guess we'll see. And I also now know enough to know, cause I used to like see a story like this.

I'm like, well, Scooter subpoenaed, he's in. But now I know like he could, it could be dismissed. So. Yeah. It's like, it's the girl who cried subpoenaing. Like it's all fraudulent. Like it means absolutely nothing. I just, and especially like you said with the dismissal,

it's like, girl, just like focus on, I saw her in some like pretty, like rainbow outfit. Yes. It's giving Chanel, but make it allyship. Like thank you in the month of pride. We appreciate it. I guess like, we'll take it even from Blake. You know what I mean?

We'll take it. But she was just, she's just like, her intolerableness knows no bounds. Like she just like, girl, just like take a seat, like hang out with your kids, take a break. You know, you have a lot going on. And she's just, I think she's just like, if I'm out and I'm looking good and I'm looking happy

and I'm smiling, everybody will think that I'm winning. And like she's taking this victory lap and girl, it's not a victory lap. It's just, it's a pause for Baldoni while they kinda get their ducks in a row. I mean, it's got, she's, I guess she thinks we're really stupid, huh? That we don't realize that she's just playing this PR game.

Yeah, I guess sometimes it works though when you're going through something and it's like, I'm gonna put on a brave face, I'm gonna put on my best outfit, I'm gonna show them they can't bring me down. But it's like, that's not what's happening here. No. No, it's like, you're coming out and you're Chanel

and then you're going home and you're sending off legal letters. It's just, it's like two different timelines. Yes, she's living a double life. Yeah, yeah, I so feel you. Even though I'm really enjoying Blake Brown Beauty, I just have to say they sent me all their stuff. And I was just, I don't know, I'm like,

I guess kind of just like looking to shake it up in my hair, my life. So I was like, I'm gonna do the whole kitten caboodle. And it's nice. It's like, it has a lot of fragrance. I use things that are like non-toxic, like no fragrance added. So like, I don't use like indulgent hair care a lot.

So like, I have this like schtunk in my hair, but like, it's kind of nice. Like, and like some people's hair, like when Jessie from Salt Lake City came on the coast, her hair smells so good. It smells so good. And I know like my hair, I don't know what my hair smells like.

I don't know, Tres, my hairspray. I don't like have that effect on people. So I'm like, but that's what it takes. You have to like sleep with smell in your hair and like smell it every time you flip over on your pillow if you want to have that effect on people. So I'm struggling. I mean, I don't even wanna know

what I smell like right now. What do you smell like? Like, do you wear perfume? No, I'm like very perfume sensitive. You do? Like, so, so until 33, I was like for a while very into, and now it just, it feels like a moment in time that should be put to rest.

Okay. So I'm done with that. I mean, I wear Dove spray powder scent deodorant every day. Yeah, I wear Dove deodorant. We're so, like, yeah, I don done with that. I mean, I wear Dove spray powder scent, deodorant, every day, not to brag. Yeah, I wear Dove deodorant. We're so, like, yeah, I don't wear perfume. My hair smells like, you know, fragrance-free shampoo. And I wear Dove deodorant because yes,

I still use toxic deodorant. Totally, me too, same thing. And I probably just smell like, I probably smell like a subway person. Yummy. Hahaha. Yummy. Yeah. Yummy. If I'm keeping it real, you know, it's New York City.

It's like kind of be 90 degrees today. Help me. Yeah. You look great. You would never know. And I guess that's the thing about podcasting. People don't really smell us. I was really so, I was like kind of panicking

and I was like, oh no, I don't want to be the stinky girl in school today. And I was like, oh my God, we are remote. It's okay. I can be stinky. You can be stinky. I actually have gotten like, I'm dabbling in perfume a little bit recently because Dossier is a sponsor of the show.

So they send us like all their new fragrances. And so every time they send, like I really take the time to smell them. And I've now noticed that I love the scent of amber and I like cedar. And so I've been collecting like all the time to smell them. And I've now noticed that I love the scent of amber and I like cedar. And so I've been collecting like all the ones that I like. And now when I'm going somewhere and seeing people, I'll put on a little spritz and I'm not hating it.

I mean, really enjoying it. Send me your top picks. Cause if you're like a sensitive smell girly, like maybe what you like, I'll like. Yeah, I totally agree. Yeah. Our next story, circling back to something else we were talking about at the top of the show, Bethany Frankel is blasting a miserable,

washed up Joy Behar for swiping about her fake boobs. So, as you all know, Bethany Frankel stunned on the Sports Illustrated Miami swim week runway. Taylor Stoker was there. She looked amazing. Eyewitness. It was unreal. I mean, literally no one had a negative thing to say about Bethany walking down. Like, she looked insanely amazing. I witnessed. It was unreal. I mean, literally no one had a negative thing to say about Bethany walking down.

She looked insanely amazing. Her confidence was exuding. There was nothing negative to say, unless you're Joy Behar, apparently. I was shocked. I saw that Bethany has been barbing with Joy ever since Joy swiped at her on The View. And I'm just shocked that Joy Behar would be that stupid.

The consensus is Bethany looked amazing. There's nothing else to say. Yes, and also in this economy, Joy, we're coming for the way that women look whilst in a bathing suit. I just feel like she should know not to touch that with a 10-foot pole. All of these women, they look beautiful.

I mean, such variety, different shapes and sizes. Like, I mean, it was like, I just feel like there was so much, like it was about positivity and loving the body that you're in. So for somebody to come for the way that she looked is just, I mean, it's tone deaf. Yeah, no, like we're not doing that anymore.

Like, so I'm really like shocked that she fell into this trap and that she would like wanna be seen this way. But basically they were talking on the show about how Bethany had made some comments that like none of the girls, none of us looked like this two hours prior to the show. Like they, it took a ton to make them look that good,

just like being relatable. And so Joy like said something that she appreciated like Bethany's honesty, but also she had fake boobs. Like what, first of all, I thought that we were like over fake boobs, although, oh my God, this is crazy. Oh my God, okay, so not to make the story about me, but so Bethany Frankel, I interviewed her years ago

when I was at Sirius and I was so excited because I was such a huge fan. And she came in and we were talking about her book and she had just on the show gotten her boobs, she didn't get an implant, she got like a lift. That's what she's saying in her rebuttal to Joy. She had her boobs lifted. And I brought it up and she got very snippy with me.

And I was like clearly a fan. And like, I was like, I was obviously referencing something from the show that she had discussed. I really didn't realize, and Bethany's so like, whatever, whatever, I talk about everything. I didn't realize it was like a sensitive subject. Yeah. And I remember feeling really like shamed and bad,

but I didn't bring up in a negative way. I was like, oh yeah, you got like, you know, your boobs done. And she was like, it was actually a lift. She was like very scolding and very snippy with me. And then her, she completely changed her like attitude towards me for the rest of the interview. And I was like kind of like caught off guard and dumbfounded.

And so maybe this is like a trigger point for her. And Joy really stepped in it with this one because- But when you asked her about it, she had shown on the show that she got her boobs done or on social media? On the show, on the show. Oh, so that's like their line of questioning. I guess, I don't know, but I just,

I remember not realizing that was a no-fly zone. Yeah. So, but I just, I remember not realizing that was like a no fly zone. Yeah. So, but like, maybe also in retrospect, like that was like, whatever, 10 years ago. Like I probably wouldn't maybe talk about a woman's body today, cause we just like know better. But definitely, definitely Hercules. That's the storyline on the show.

And then they go and do post show press. Then you ask them about their storylines. That's what they would hope for, I would think. Exactly. So it's like, it's her Achilles boobs. Yeah. And I can understand also from her perspective why it might not be like her favorite thing to talk about,

but that's not fair to you. Like you're just asking the questions based on what you saw. Exactly. But it feels like Joy and I were like in the same realm of her body, but like had different intention. And intention is everything. Yes, and also yours was like 10 years ago

when we weren't as enlightened as we are now. Exactly. And you were a younger person, whereas like Joy's an old lady and like you should know better. Exactly. I'm really shocked Joy even brought it up. Yeah, no, like seriously,

like text 101 things we're not doing. But so Bethany took to Instagram to talk back to Joy. She said, it's actually a lift, not fake boobs. She said, but the thing that the show really illustrated was that women my age and older, women of a certain age can live their lives freely with happiness and with joy, and that we're not washed up miserable older women, LOL.

She shared that she had a breast lift 15 or 20 years ago because she used to have large breasts that were like saggy and floppy in high school. But aside from the discussion of her body, she felt sorry for Joy. She said, quote, she doesn't seem to be living her life with any joy. Sadly, Joy is painting the picture

of the older seemingly miserable washed up woman that all of us are trying to show that we aren't. Yikes. Mic drop. Honestly, round of applause. It's unbelievable. She did a very, very good job with that one. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,

I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, older women being comfortable in your bodies, like all good things. So I'm so glad she stepped up to the plate and hit it out of the park. Cause that needed to be said. Yeah, she just like, I mean,

she just scratched like a cat in heat. She got her good. She got her good. Yeah. So good for Bethany. Do you see, do you interface with her at all? At the show? No, cause like backstage was very like tight security because I mean, I, I, I, I, I did pop back there

for one little second, but I kind of wasn't supposed to because like everybody's naked. You know what I mean? So, but yeah, I didn't see Bethany. I feel like, okay, another example of somebody who I've definitely talked my shit about over the years, but I don't think Bethany takes note of that stuff. I don't think she knows, I think she's oblivious to that.

No, and I think also she doesn't like absorb everything, hold a grudge, like I think Taylor Swift like remembers every negative thing any celebrity has ever said about her and she'll never forget. But I think for Bethany, she has a little bit of a thicker skin and a little bit more rubber that bounces off of her.

Maybe in the moment affects her, but she's not holding onto it years later. I imagine. Yeah, totally. But yeah, I did not get to interact with her, but her and Stassi did cross on the runway. So they got to do a little thing together that they were planning.

So they had a lot of FaceTime. So don't steal my friend, Bethany. Amazing moment for women, amazing moment for Bravo. Reality stars like doing really big things. I know it was, it really like, that thing is like, I have a lot to say about Bethany, but not when it came to any of this. Like, I mean, just tens across the board.

Oh, do you have a lot to say? Oh, I just feel like she is not nice. I can't. That's that's what she's just like, like, like based on what you've seen in person. And I've also heard like, you know, like, like she's like the epitome of like, don't meet your heroes. Like you will not get the Bethany of your dreams like nine times out of 10 when you meet Bethany. You know, she's- That to me doesn't sound surprising. I feel like if I imagine like meeting her like at a store

and I went up to her, which I don't think that I would, but say that I would, I imagine she would be like very rushed, like very matter of fact, not like, you know, the warmest, like some people pride themselves on like being so nice to people in public, like, and meanwhile that doesn't like, they might actually be an asshole,

but they like know that that matters. I think Bethany is like actually so authentic that she's like, I'm not gonna pretend like this is my favorite. Right, and she's like, I'm busy, leave me alone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I guess, do I mean, she's an authentic queen. Yeah, I have like a little bit of respect.

As long as she's like not nasty, but like if she's like short and just I kind of like respect it cuz like honestly It's probably how most people feel but other people are pretending because they like are scared of being canceled for being rude to a fan Right. Yeah, okay fine. I will give her that but like like I like I said like I I've like dragged her for years because of that serious interview and now here we are and you're saying nice things and I'm like, honestly I love her. She's my queen. And like, I like stan and like worship

at the feet of Bethany Frankel. Okay. Well now I'm like, well, I don't. Okay. I mean. Um. Very slayable. I actually started following her on Instagram, like a few months ago.

So like, I wasn't getting all her like reviews and stuff. Cause I'm not on TikTok. So like I hadn't been seeing everything. So now I'm like in on it. She actually just reviewed, she went to this place in Southampton and she was like, this is the most amazing market I've ever been to.

And I just wanna say not to make it about me. But last summer I went to that market, it was their opening summer. And I said to Claudia, because I have a dream of opening up a little shopping market called Strandberries. Yes. And I went to this place,

it was called Farm and Formage, and I was like, Claudia, it's Strandberries. I don't need to open up my place. This is the place. They have homemade sourdough. They were playing Luke Holmes. They had like once upon a time pouches for the kids. Every brand that they had was like what I buy for my family.

And then they had like these pre-made salads that just look like the best salads you've ever had. I'm like, this is strawberries. Like, I don't have to go to work. And so then she just posted a video. She discovered this place and she did like this whole long review on it. She was like, this is the most amazing market

I've ever been to in my entire life. They had all the like Japanese food stuffs that she likes. And I was like, okay, yeah, we're aligned. Yeah, I said it first. I discovered it. It's called strawberries. Yeah. It's not called farming for mom.

Wait, where is it? I'm going out to the Humpton's and forth. It's South Hampton, just like off of Main Street. Really? Is it better than Round Swamp? I don't know if I ever made it to Round Swamp. Girl, I don't even know if you need to. It's crazy up in that bitch.

Like you walk in, it is the scariest place to shop. There are no price tags on anything and everything is $115. It's crazy. Well, sharemarry is expensive. And it's so funny because the one day that I went there, like some people in the house were sick, so I bought some soup and it was each pint was $17.

And I came home, I'm like, this is $17 soup, you guys better enjoy it. And then she literally in her video was like $17 soup. Literally not her coming for all of your, no, no. She, no. But I never even said anything publicly. Like we just actually had the exact same thoughts. Also like not them not raising the prices with inflation.

Yes, Jenberries. Go off. The nail plowing tie. I'm gonna have to stop there on my way to East Hampton for sure. Yeah, are you gonna be Hampton's girlie this summer? So I'm going out for the fourth to stay with Hannah Berner. But then we Lily pad from Hannah to East Hampton

to stay with my sister and brother-in-law. And Lily pad means like, you know, just like completely. It's like, is that like a blade? It means go. Okay. I was like, is that like a blade? Like. It means go. Okay, I was like, is that like a new mechanism, like a seaplane? We see plane. We see plane.

Yeah, can you imagine? From East Hampton to South Hampton. Literally, what a waste of everyone's money. Like that would be insane. And I know, I just feel like when it comes to the Hamptons, I have to like change my vernacular to fit in, you know? And I feel like Lily Patty, Lily Padding feels like very Hampton. Wait, I just feel like when it comes to the Hamptons, I have to like change my vernacular to fit in, you know? And I feel like Lily Patty, Lily Padding feels like very Hamptons-y.

Like- Wait, I love that. I'm gonna Lily Pad until I crash out. And then, and then, like maybe I'll just like Lily Pad back to you guys. Like I wanna maybe swing by and say like, how do you do? Please do.

We're gonna be women of leisure this summer. Like- I love it. Let's go to lunch. Are you gonna be out there like the whole summer? We're gonna be women of leisure this summer. Let's go to lunch. Are you gonna be out there the whole summer? We're gonna be out there the whole summer. We are working way less, but we will still be doing weekly pop culture episodes

on Patreon, patreon.com slash the toast. If you are missing the toast and want original recipe all summer long, patreon.com slash the toast. It's gonna be a Parg-a-licious affair. Plus Claudia's birth story is up now. So head to patreon.com slash the toast so you don't miss a beat. She's a fucking pro.

That was impressive. Really. I forgot to promote the Patreon yesterday and the birth story went up. So I just really wanted to let everyone know because the episode is so amazing and Claudia's back pod, like she's on the pod video and audio both on the Patreon.

Like if you're missing Claudia, which we all are, like it's literally there. It's like, I saw the clip that you guys posted and it's so, she's so cute. And also when she was doing her makeup, she's like, I don't remember how to do my makeup. I love her. She makes me LOL.

I die. And now she's like new mama coges, like new mama turdy. I love it. I just feel like she's gonna unlock all this new turdiness. And she already has, you can really see it on the episode.

And I love that turdy is still in there. Like hope to, you know, everyone that like, you are still you it on the episode. And I love that Turtee is still in there. Hope taught everyone that you are still you when you become a mommy. It's so true, and that's when people who ask me, how's Claudia? The first thing I say is she's still Claudia. She's in a good way. She's so funny.

She's not losing her mind or anything. She's got her humor. And now it's just she has this like new stuff to joke about. I feel like people can like feel it in her content too. Like she's so happy. She's so herself, but she's like so in a whole new world. Totally. We were texting like after, you know, Ruby was born

and it was, it's so, it's crazy. Cause it's like, I know better. Like I have friends that have children and they're still cool and awesome. But I guess there was maybe a small piece of me that was just like scared selfishly. Like will Turdy be the same? And from that first text, I was like,

oh, Turdy Lou Freebush is still thriving in that body. You know, she didn't push the freebush, you know, out with the baby. She didn't push the bush. Exactly. But they did shave the bush. and for that, I'm sorry. You know, humiliation. But it's okay, Trine, if you wanna hear the deets

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which are the Razzie Awards. Ooh, I love the Razzie Awards. I love the Razzie Awards. I love the Razzie Awards. Dakota Johnson's making news because she was on Amy Poehler's podcast talking about how Sandra Bullock texted her when she won a Razzie. So Dakota Johnson won a Razzie for her role in Madame Webb.

It received several Razzie accolades that year, including worst actress, worst screenplay, and worst picture. And Sandra actually voice noted her and invited her to their recurring brunch meetings for Razzie winners. So she said to Amy Poehler, she said, I recently actually exchanged texts.

Well, I got a voice note from Sandra Bullock because I don't know if you know, but I won the Razzie for worst actions. Amy Poehler was like, oh my God, you did? Congrats, there's a lot of good people who have won that. Dakota said, I asked if they'd send it to me, but Sandra Bullock sent me a voice note being like, I heard you're in the Razzie club and we should have brunch.

We should have a monthly brunch because I guess she won that, the year that she won the Oscar as well. It was in the same year, I think. Yes, very famously Sandra Bullock won an Oscar and a Razzie in the same year for different works. No way. She won the Oscar for Blindside and she won the Razzie for All About Steve,

I think, which was just like a moronic rom-com. I never saw it. No, of course not. Dakota was like, I freaked out getting this message from her because she's so iconic to me as like a movie star. I was like, oh my God, that's just so crazy. So this is like the epitome of like, when life gives you lemons, like make lemonade.

But I guess the lemonade was just like literally delivered to her. Yeah, this is just this. I liked Dakota Johnson so much. This makes me like her more. I feel like people who play into the Razzies, especially the Razzies don't really clown on movies that aren't successful or people who aren't successful.

It's like these big budget movies, like the flop of the year, like let's call it what it is. It's just funny, it's not that serious. So it means a lot to me when like these big stars acknowledge the Razzie's because they're one of my favorite things in Hollywood. So Dakota, I feel like my first experience with her was like, I guess, 50 Shades of Grey, which was not my favorite things in Hollywood. So Dakota, I feel like my first experience with her was like, I guess, 50 Shades of Grey,

which was not my favorite. I'm a famous prude, famous. So I struggled with that book. I remember I was bringing on a plane and I started to feel tingles in my tingy and it made me deeply uncomfortable and it was like, this is inappropriate and I put the book down.

And then Tay made me go see the movie with her because she is a perv. And I was like, I simply, I can't. So I was like not into her because I associated her with sex and that made me feel nervous and scared. So I was kind of like Luke warm, but over the years, like when she was on SNL, she was so funny and she doesn't take herself seriously.

And she is like a snarky queen and I'm obsessed with her. And like the last year or so I'd say, it's really major. No, every time we get to see a bit of her personality, like it's so winning. And I feel like it's also so unexpected because she's a serious actress and she's a nepo baby. And so like, she doesn't have to have this amazing person. She's beautiful too.

So it's like, you don't also have to be like so funny and self-aware and like pop off. And it's so refreshing every time that she does. So I just feel like she should do more interviews. Actually, she's doing a good amount of these sorts of interviews because I feel like we got to see this side of her. And if she did too much, like if someone made her

the host of something or she did her own podcast, like we'd get fatigue. Whereas right now it's like this like unexpected thing. We're like, oh yeah, Dakota Johnson is a real one. Forgot that for a second. Do you think that the Nepo baby part of her is the reason why she's kind of so like self deprecating and honest because she's like so confident and comfortable?

I feel like when you're a Nepo baby, like in any realm, like it could really go in two ways where it's like you have all of these things and that just makes you like confident and comfortable because like you don't have to worry so much. Right. But then other people, like it makes them so insecure. I'll never measure up.

I'll always be in the shadow and they're the worst. Those are the worst people. So I think it's too pas and she probably has all this confidence from always just being like the coolest and not having to like worry about things that other kids might've had to worry about. She probably had other issues, but like I think this is is nepotism done right,

where it's like you give your kids this great confidence and an amazing life. Yeah, she's one of my faves for sure. Yeah, even though I don't really watch anything she's in, I feel like her picker is just not my picker. Yeah, same. I watch nothing she's in, but I adore her, and she's my favorite actress.

Yeah. She's gonna be in Verity though, and I Like I watch nothing she's in, but I adore her and she's my favorite actress. She's going to be in Verity though. And I'm going to watch that. That is like, how do you read Verity? You don't read smut is what I've gathered from what you previously said. I don't read good in general. You don't just discriminate against smut. That's why Ben Saw for Celebrity loves me so much.

I am illiterate. Well, Verity is like, when people get into reading, they're like, what should I read? Verity is always everyone's first choice. And like for a reason, because it's so good. It's like a thriller, but it's also smutty and it's twisty and like, you don't see it coming, especially if you're a newer reader.

Okay, okay. I will Verity. Verity, I'm not saying you should read it. I'm not here to give you homework. So I'm saying that movie is like the number one book of modern women of modern times and they're making it into a movie. I might try to read it this summer

floating in my inflatable hot tub. Dakota Johnson and Anne Hathaway. Yeah, it would be a great, like if you do want to read this summer and you are looking for a book, like yes, I would recommend anybody's first book like when they're learning to read. I'm still working on Good Night Moon.

It's very difficult, but once I finished that. Above the age of 18, I would recommend Verity. But I think the movie, like it's, and also Josh Hartnett is in it. I feel like you would like him. Oh yeah, he was in, M. Night Shyamalan is like one of my favorite directors. I don't even know if I'm saying his name right.

Classic me, I'm probably saying it wrong, but he was just in Trap, Harsher, Hartenet, Harsheret. Trap? Yes, it is so good. It's M. Night's most recent film. And it's about, and I'm not giving away the premise because like, if you see a preview,

like this is what the preview is. It's about a serial killer who's a father and he takes his daughter to like a concert like all alike, Olivia Rodriguez or you know, Taylor Swift or whatever. And he is basically like being hunted by the Philadelphia PD like while at the concert. And like, yeah.

Oh wow, that does sound good. I thought you were gonna like judge Hartnett from like while at the concert. Oh wow. That does sound good. I thought you were gonna like Josh Hartnett from like back in the day. You know, yeah, he was, what was his like big stuff? I feel like I never saw- Like Pearl Harbor. Never saw that, which is crazy. I've never seen that.

It's good. Even I've seen it. Should I watch it? I don't know. I don't know. I like, I watched it and I appreciated it, but I was like, something about it didn't like hit for know. I don't know. I watched it and I appreciated it, but I wasn't like, something about it didn't like hit for me. I can't explain it. Did you want that time back in your life?

No, no, no, no, I didn't hate it at all. Like, and it's a good movie and everyone was like so attractive. But I don't know why. You would think it was like historical fiction. I like, I love like that time. I don't love that time, but I like learning about world war II.

I don't want it. Right. Um, I just love that war time. I know what you mean. Yeah, thank you. Yes, yes, yes. I'm very interested in it. And I don't know, maybe I feel like if you didn't watch it,

like when it came out, it's like not as good watching. Even like the way we make movies and the way the movie's look has changed. So it just like feels sort of dated. It was my date. The time has passed. But Claudia watched it recently and she really liked it. Okay, maybe I will.

Oh God, the last time I watched a movie with Claudia, I watched Love Actually with her and she, what a stinking pile of garbage she thought that movie was. And honestly, seeing it through somebody's new eyes, she was not wrong. Like that movie does not hold up in society today. Like it is all sorts of problematic. It's bad.

It's a mess. It's honestly the worst movie ever. The way I remember it, like I never had a problem with it, but in thinking about it, it's like, it's all over the place. I think that's the point, but like get it together. Yeah, like we need a grownup on set. Like who is running this show, this dog-a-pony show.

Yeah, those sorts of movies where it's like ensemble, they're all loosely connected, like Valentine's Day and New Year's Eve. Terrible. Just, I think they did stop, stay stopping. Yeah, they should razzie all of those. Yeah, they should. Thank you for bringing it back to the story.

And now for our final story, Sabrina Carpenter's surprising fans with a new album release date, cover art, and a Rolling Stones profile. Like Sabrina's back on the circuit. I'm in shock because Short and Sweet came out less than one year ago. And now she has a new album coming out

called Man's Best Friend. And she just released her new single Man Child, which I actually haven't had a chance to listen to yet, but I've heard it's like amazing peak Sabrina. Oh, it's so good. So I haven't listened to the whole song, but I saw on, I guess it was Instagram scrolling, like clips of the new video and the song.

So I got a feel for it. She, it stopped me in my tracks. She is so adorable, there are no words. She's one of my absolute favorites. I die for her. I am uncomfortably obsessed with her. Me too. And she just came out, she's on the cover of Rolling Stone.

She looks insane. She's technically in the nude, but hair covering her butt and her breasts and thigh highs. Yeah, you should check it out. Cause it's like actually we don't get a lot of iconic imagery these days, especially as covers like not like we used to. And this is an iconic cover. I'm calling it Rolling Stone.

Okay. She's on the cover of the summer double issue. Oh my God. Anything she's buying or yeah, anything she's selling. I am buying hands down. Like I am so obsessed with her. Yeah, the photos on the inside are insane. She's kind of rocking a little bit of a different look

because the hair is like longer and like wavier, less ringlets. But she's still like very ethereal, looking like a fairy in a garden, like dreamy. Total fairy in a garden. I also love, she's doing like, at least in the first song that she released in the video, she's doing like a very,

oh, she is naked naked. Yeah. Oh my God. Okay. So, whoa. Wait, the prudemy is coming out. The cover, are you looking at the cover? Yes.

Yeah. Naked. With, I mean, fully- With knee socks. But her hair is covering her body. It's very tasteful. It's very functional. Yeah, it makes me nervous.

You know, I told you about prude, so now, wait, I'm spiraling. I didn't realize you were such a prude. It's literally crazy. Where does it come from? Catholic to my core. I mean, I, like, it just, I got ruined at a very young age. And I was raised by parents that claim, and I believe them, to be virgins when they got married.

And I mean, they got married when they were like young, and they actually got married, like, the first time, like a secret wedding, secretly. I mean, obviously, cause they like wanted to do it. And then they got married, like, for realsies, like, you know, at my, like, grandparents through my parents' wedding, cause my mom grew up in Fort Lauderdale.

But like, total squares, total prudes. That's so funny and very unexpected of you. I would just assume that like your brash sex talking like, you know, wouldn't shy away. But like I respect it because I am a prude as well. But I actually think you might be like prudier than me. I think I am prudes unite. You know what I mean?

Like I need to start like a support group for myself. And like prude and proud. Like I feel like prudes got such a bad rap. Even on the season of Love Island, there was a girl who came on and she didn't wanna kiss anyone. The first day they come on, they have to choose their partner,

just based on looks, but you get to go up and kiss. The girls get to choose two boys that they wanna kiss, they make out, and then they choose which one they wanna stay with. They have known these boys five minutes, and they're making out with them, like pick up, grinding, humping, like slobbering

on these guys, and everybody did it, except for this one girl, she got two kisses on the cheek, and then she chose the guy that she just thought was the cutest, and that was her thin kiss on the cheek. I mean, she was literally there three days. And then they do like this in the challenges, every challenge is like, you have to slob. It's seriously, you would die

because even I'm like clutching my pearls. I'm like, I can't believe this is television that they're making. Like it's pornography. Literally. And I can't believe that these girls like do it. And every challenge also has like some degree of like food involved, like pieing the face and then slobbering kiss.

And anyways, so she like does one challenge where all the girls have to go, it's a baseball challenge. They go to all four bases. There's a guy on every base and like, you like slide into the base, like, you know, I don't know, grinding all your way there. No, I wanna die. And then you make out with the guy

and you have like a popcorn in your mouth and then you go to the next space and then the person on the home run, you get to choose who's there. Like you do like a big movie make out with like straddle, hump, like literally have sex. And for that challenge, she like finally like hooks up, like kisses everyone,

like goes all in. And it made the guys like see her differently. Like they were more interested in her, which was, like, kisses everyone, like, and it, like, for, like, goes all in. And it made the guys, like, see her differently, like, they were more interested in her, which was just, like, so crazy. And then she still got sent home, like. Oh, see? Yeah. Oh, she, like, stuck to her guns, and then she's finally like, fine, I'm giving it,

I'm, can you imagine the pressure she was getting from production? I know, but, like, I thought it was, it was so nice to have someone who like thought that that was like not the way they wanted to go about things. And I don't judge other girls who do do it, but it's just like, the show, the structure of the show is like just why is every challenge

like make out like seriously dry hump, make out everything, but showing me your penis and vagina. Every guy in the house, it's the craziest thing. Man, I don't even know if I could actually, I feel like I watched one season of it, but I haven't been back, and now I'm like reminded of the reasons why. Like, yeah, this prude lives inside of me.

Like, I will say, Sierra from Summer House and Lexi, both, I liked how they both came in and they were like, listen, I don't wanna sleep with a guy unless I'm in a committed relationship. And it was like the craziest, most foreign thing ever to say. And it's like, listen, if you are like a sexual girly and you like want to-

Are liberated, go right ahead. Let that coochie breathe all over the place. You go, Glen Coco. I support that. But there's some of us who are a little bit more, you know, precious with our parts. And like we have sex, I am in love with you. We are getting married in my brain.

So like, I love that we have representation of prudeness. Prude pride, I love it. I love it. Prude pride, we need more representation of prudence. And we also just need to have the same energy for people who like want to remain prude as we do for people who want to be sexually liberated, which is like always celebrated and so great.

But then like the prudes like get a bit like, prude is like a negative term. I don't think so. Yeah, we should be proud, proud and prude. Prude and proud, title. I'm, wow, there's never been a better title I've ever been attached to. I'm floating, I'm flying.

We're taking back our power, Taylor Strucker. Thank you so much for doing this episode with me. I love you so dearly. I feel like we haven't even scratched the surface and we need to catch up further. Ah, I will. I'm gonna see you in the Hamptons. I'm gonna lily pad over to you.

This summer at Strandberries. It's done. I'll bring gifts from Strandberries. $17 suit. I got you, girl. I love you dearly. Where can everyone follow you? Listen to your show, your podcasts, hear you every day.

So I am daily. So Taste of Taylor, it's free wherever you can get, go. It's available wherever, what do they say? It's available wherever you listen to podcasts. Anywhere you can get your podcasts. Yeah, so Taste of Taylor, it's daily. And then please, for the love of God, follow me on Instagram.

Give it to her, give it up to her. She's really been working on her content. Duck, I'm stuck at 122. So at Taylor Strucker, it would mean the literal world to me. And she's a great following. She's about to have a great, glamorous summer. Thank you, thank you, thank you. I love you. This was so much fun. Thank you so much. Like truly honored. Love you so much. Thank you. And I will see you

tomorrow. Love ya. Bye.